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March 8th, 2008 at 04:07:13  From: FBI Stalker
Of course I knew you were a whore and let it go by and went forward to get them all in the same pit. Was it worth it or not?
March 8th, 2008 at 04:14:24  From: BANKRUPTED AMERIKA
BOYO..SO IT TOOK ALL THESE GODDAMMED YEARS FOR YOU TO SAY WHAT WE ALL KNOW..BUSH AND HIS FELLOW MINIONS FROM HELL LET IT HAPPEN..OR ACTUALLY PLANNED IT..IF SO..SEE WHAT THE UNITED SNAKES HAS REAPED SO FAR..LED BY A MAN WHO IS INSANE..LIKE HIS FELLOW LEADER PRINCE ADOLF.. FROM HISTORY PASSED..THE AMERIKAN LARD ASS PUBLIC..LIKE SHEEP..LED OVER A CLIFF..LIKE THE GERMANS IN THE 30S..A PROMISE OF WEALTH AND THE GOOD LIFE...LIES AND LIES..NOTHING NEW..AND THE PROMISE OF NO FUTURE..WHEN YOU LET PEOPLE WITH THE INTELLIGENCE OF MICE LEAD YOU DOWN THE SEWERS OF THE WORLD..WHAT YOU GETS IS WHAT YOU PAYS FER..THE STUPID DIE..THE RICH PISS ON YOUR GRAVES AND PAY NO TAXES..AINT LIFE A BITCH?..NO FUTURE WITH A THING LIKE BUSH AS LEADER..SUM LEADER..WITH THE INTELLIGENCE OF A RAT.
March 8th, 2008 at 04:20:09  From: Masonic Translator
Don Belivia
He was too busy reading the "pet goat story" to give a subliminal signal to all the masons that he was the choosen one.
March 8th, 2008 at 04:21:06  From: Subliminal Whore Website
at 9:05 estd
March 8th, 2008 at 04:21:49  From: i DEATH
OFF with their GD heads!!!!!!!!
March 8th, 2008 at 04:22:39  From: 
BTW buongiorno amore.
March 8th, 2008 at 04:35:04  From: Calami I Jeans
DA make me "la deal"
This adventure went too far for too long.Enough is enough.
March 8th, 2008 at 05:06:07  From: 
QUO VADIS?
March 8th, 2008 at 05:25:29  From: D.
Of course Bush and his "administration" knew that 9/11 was going to happen. They LET it happen so they could manufacture blame on Iraq and invade. However, Iraq was never the actual target: it was only a stepping-stone. The REAL target of Bush and his "administration" has always been IRAN. Bush and Israel knew that Saddam was in no shape to take on Iran again, and they also knew that Iran could possibly have a nuclear weapon soon. Saddam stood in the way and needed to be removed so they could deal with Iran. However, the ineptitude in the planning of the Iraq war threw their plans off course by years and they were not prepared for the close ties Iraq would establish with its neighbour. Remember, Iraq was only a stepping-stone to get control of its oil and insert the U.S. into a position to deal with Iran. They allowed 9/11 to happen so they could put their long-established plans into action. Bush and the rest of his so-called "administration" are criminals who should be tried for dereliction of duty, amongst many other of their crimes against the Constitution and the American people.
March 8th, 2008 at 05:42:33  From: More BS by Federal Agents
D crap I am after something else,and you can't read it all the way with these monitors.
March 8th, 2008 at 05:44:02  From: 
You A I am Z so?
March 8th, 2008 at 05:48:52  From: 
D go tell Sigfrido and Umberto that you knew it.
March 8th, 2008 at 06:06:23  From: The Real D
LMAO!
March 8th, 2008 at 06:12:00  From: Winner Notification
DA make me "la deal"
Forniture Patio ,...oohh!!!
March 8th, 2008 at 06:36:58  From: Subliminal Operator
Pascali's head first !
Anni 1980 ed operazioni "back to back" ed il romano rispose: Cristo e` quello che si sta mettendo i chiodi da solo!
March 8th, 2008 at 06:47:32  From: horrofying red pill
raw story readers have known this for many years now...most of us think they made it happen
March 8th, 2008 at 06:50:45  From: verdad
and 7 years later bush still gets to play president and the traitors walk free. congress fails to do its duty.
March 8th, 2008 at 07:10:56  From: johns
Ideology don't need no stinkin competence! I might add that since then, the Congress "knew but did nothing".
March 8th, 2008 at 07:21:38  From: 
LIHOP doesn't cut it!
March 8th, 2008 at 07:40:47  From: Well Well Well
They helped plan it so yeah they let it happen, they should go in to detail on who put Demolitions in the buildings do they could fall too.
March 8th, 2008 at 07:44:03  From: choco
And you wonder why men are dropping out of society throughout Western Civilization? --- Fathers arrested for stopping fight http://tinyurl.com/22fzzx
March 8th, 2008 at 07:47:26  From: oodles
Bush could give a news conference announcing and describing how he planned 9/11, MIHOP, LIHOP, ... AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE STILL WOULD NOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT! American Men have become so pussified by Feminist Legislation that they don't have an ounce of FIGHT left in them anymore.
March 8th, 2008 at 08:06:04  From: 
Bush knew that kerosene could melt steel and that buildings containing SEC documents capable of indicting 100's of corrupt corporations, could suddenly and inexplicably fall down in to their own footprint w/o warning and that bearded guys in caves wearing sandals and tunics could defeat the most sophisticated air defense system in the world - but still he did nothing.
March 8th, 2008 at 08:08:39  From: 
Bush knew that the Bin Ladens were safely shuttled out of the country and that Israeli's were dancing in the streets and that MOSSAD agents were rounded up and safely escorted out of the country.... yes he knew.
March 8th, 2008 at 08:15:15  From: W sux Dick
Bush is a 4-letter word, AND DON'T U 4GET IT.... http://www.bushsucks.com/?cat=2
March 8th, 2008 at 08:28:12  From: Matt S
more whitewash
This article, and this book, is more whitewash BS. It assumes "terrorists" committed 9/11 and not Cheney government. Why else did these fools ignore all the chatter about impending attacks, try to prevent an investigation and then do everything in their power to make sure no real investigation took place? And the physical evidence of controlled demolition, missle hitting pentagon and simultaneous war games is all undebateable. It's unfathomable who stupid we Americans are.
March 8th, 2008 at 08:32:34  From: db
Oh boy....more fuel for the tin foil hat club. Here comes the asstards saying 9/11 was an inside job. You kiddies need to move out of mom's basement, get a job, see the world. You're pathetic really.
March 8th, 2008 at 08:38:12  From: nyc1
db....when you get your head out of your arse and finally see the light...it might be too late.
March 8th, 2008 at 08:38:37  From: 4911Truth
Shenen still calls it "ineptitude" rather than
the treason it was.
March 8th, 2008 at 08:40:11  From: 4911Truth
db and the other foaming deniers are really
scared more people will connect the pulsating dots.
March 8th, 2008 at 08:41:18  From: Reality's Knocking
Is really very simple for anyone who's taken the time to review ALL the evidence. 911 WAS an inside job. The current administration is fascist and should be tried in an international court for crimes against humanity. Anyone who continues to argue differently is either blindly stupid or a traitor.
March 8th, 2008 at 08:46:21  From: war pig
Facing the American people now is the very real coming destruction of their Nation. It remains unsettling how few of these people realize the great danger they are in. It is as if they believe that by their not knowing the truth of the monsters who are leading them they themselves will somehow be protected.
March 8th, 2008 at 08:48:41  From: 4911Truth
CDi (Controlled Demolition, Inc.) got the lucrative contract
to immediately destroy the crime scene evidence. Seems to me they are also in the right business to have been able to control the 3 building collapses into their own footprints, something which normally takes days or weeks to set up. - www.controlled-demolition.com - Hmmmmmm. Could it be .......?
March 8th, 2008 at 08:48:59  From: molly
Websites which don't allow
discussion about 9/11 like dkos, firedoglake, and crooks and liars are becoming obsolete. We have to get the gate keepers off the internet. Progressive isn't progressive unless you allow honest discussion. The clinton wing of the dem. party is doing everything possible to keep repubs. in office. They fight progressives and work to replace them in DC with dems. who will vote with repubs. ..just like hillary has..and john edwards as well.
March 8th, 2008 at 08:56:04  From: Death Star
It should all be pretty clear to anyone who is the least bit curious about 911. Ask yourself Why is American jobs being outsourced and why isn't there tariffs being put on Chinese goods. Good God These administration is actually trying to destroy us.
March 8th, 2008 at 08:59:06  From: X-posed
The Carlyle Group has made $$billions from the War on Terror hoax. Daddy Bush is a Senior Advisor in The Carlyle Group & he gets paid in Carlyle shares that just keep going up in value. Just prior to 911 Daddy Bush visited Saudi Arabia twice & met with the Saudi royals & the Bin Laden family. The Bin Ladens & the Bushes have been doing business together for a very long time.
March 8th, 2008 at 09:09:03  From: 
He's been way too busy sucking jew cock to run the country.
March 8th, 2008 at 09:10:31  From: 
Everytime Bush goes to Tel Aviv he's smearing his face with jew cock, sucking their balls, letting them jiz on his face and then licking the semen from his lips. Bush loves jew cock and he sucks whenever he can.
March 8th, 2008 at 09:29:11  From: al
We know Bush let it happen, we know he
tried desperately to cover up his involvement and we know it was a Christmas present he needed to invade Iraq and assume Emperor like power. It is common knowledge that most of the Hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. It was well known that the schools in Saudi Arabia were teaching and preaching hate against America. We saw how the government did everything they could to cover up the failures that could permit this to happen. We know that the 9/11 commission was a whitewash. They have been exposed repeatedly in the media. We know about the Bush family and the House of Saud and Bin Laden family. We all have heard about the Carlyle group and the connection to Bush and other criminal co conspirators. We may not yet know the details enough to prove that it was deliberate and not just incompetence, but in time we will find out. Good news is that the Carlyle group is going bankrupted by the economy that Bush has created. It was simple greed, when they could not meet margin calls in their big stakes game to suck more profits from the US markets. I am against torture and capital punishment but I would make an exception for Bush and his gang of criminal coconspirators. We are all still at risk from this madman. He has months to go and he is determined to bomb Iran. He is also determined to place someone he ran against and beat in office. He expects McSame to finish the job he started. These two were bitter enemies after a previous election and now they are working together so we know how important this evil plan is to the puppet masters that pull their strings. We need a new government. We need to drain the swamp in congress that is full of fraud waste and abuse. We have run out of time if we expect our Democracy to survive. Obama has the GOP scared shitless. He is the best chance we have. He is not a Washington insider. He was never suppose to win. He is not one of their plants. They do not own him. That is why they are scared and we have this one last chance. Yes we do, yes we can, Yes we will. Have a nice day.
March 8th, 2008 at 09:34:24  From: Captain Crunch
Hang all the treasonous bastards in Lafayette park, for the world to see. The hell with the Hague, American justice for them.
March 8th, 2008 at 09:36:45  From: Gus Smith
Why is the commission's chief director, Philip Zelikow not being held accountable for subverting a government investigation? When cronyism extends to complicity with incompetence and the legal ramifications thereof, we need a special investigation to protect the American public. Why are the Democrats and true patriots in the Republican Party allowing the flawed 911 Commission to stand?
March 8th, 2008 at 09:45:40  From: Don'tRockTheBoat
Dems have no intention of really investigating
and prosecuting the 9/11 traitors. The MSM night ridicule them.
March 8th, 2008 at 09:55:08  From: Hooded Man
DA make me "la deal"
Ali The Claw Hand.....The dead penalty for you motherfuckers.
March 8th, 2008 at 09:58:31  From: Muffy
Steep grade and an insane engineer........
But remember boys and girls "Impeachment is off the table" Blunder on Bush, the Congress no longer responds to the people so we can do nothing about you.
March 8th, 2008 at 09:59:23  From: OnlyLookHere
incompetence=limited hangout. Nothing to see here people, move on.
March 8th, 2008 at 09:59:24  From: FBI Stalker
Someday I will take the matter in my hands,the DA failed because is corrupt and part of the scam. Don't tell me I am a monster at a later time you should have thought about it before.
March 8th, 2008 at 09:59:25  From: FBI Stalker
Someday I will take the matter in my hands,the DA failed because is corrupt and part of the scam. Don't tell me I am a monster at a later time you should have thought about it before.
March 8th, 2008 at 10:01:41  From: FBI Stalker
Burt Scully Kills Wayne Madsen DA DO SOMETHING OR DIE WITH
THEM.....I HAVE PROOF YOU DIDN'T DO NOTHING FOR YEARS I WILL TAKE THE MATTER IN MY HANDS DA.
March 8th, 2008 at 10:01:53  From: FBI Stalker
Burt Scully Kills Wayne Madsen DA DO SOMETHING OR DIE WITH
THEM.....I HAVE PROOF YOU DIDN'T DO NOTHING FOR YEARS I WILL TAKE THE MATTER IN MY HANDS DA.
March 8th, 2008 at 10:06:57  From: Buzz
What really stands out in this article was the number of warnings Rice got but ignored. I'm hoping some intrepid reporter will bust her in person on the revelation of these new memos. The bitch needs to be so far from government and academia that the only job she can hold is playing piano at the local Holiday Inn.
March 8th, 2008 at 10:13:47  From: BURT SCULLY KILLS WAYNE MADSEN
g3sy2p contact me or die.
Covering some criminals just because they are brother masons will only bring down the whole masonry gang, wanna bet? Your brothers are burned behind reconigtion and by you protecting them you are feeling the heat and blows.
March 8th, 2008 at 10:15:47  From: maninwarren
you said it, OnlyLookHere
The "incompetence" spin is the Bush Administration's favorite lie. It's the biggest, best, most effective limited hangout in history, because they know that the cowardly MSM will never have the balls to call it anything worse. Hell for Bush and Company, but also hell for all the whores in the so-called "liberal media".
March 8th, 2008 at 10:36:31  From: earl
I believe that treason qualifies as a high crime, definitely grounds for impeachment.
March 8th, 2008 at 10:40:49  From: Zardoz
If you read through the article, you find that the DIDN'T know. They had generalized warnings, but nothing substantial. They didn't know where or how. So how do you prepare for that? In my mind it's a failure of the CIA's reliance on sophisticated technology that occurred in the last 20 years. They had no "boots on the ground" people, just like Bob Baur to us.
March 8th, 2008 at 10:49:15  From: gypski
With everything they knew then, and they ignored it, I can't understand why Bush is now crying wolf at every turn. He's out to protect the American people??????? Give me a fucking break. Just look around yourself and you can see how well he has done for this country. He and his cohorts are not people who should be going home in 2009 to put their feet up as Bush suggests he is going to do at Crawford. They should be preparing to spend the hundreds of millions it will take for their legal defense. The criminal defense of Bush/Cheney and the rest for crimes committed as president, vice-president and other appointed officials should be a gravy train for defense lawyers. It would be a world record on money spent in a legal, criminal defense. Profits greater then Exxon/Mobil.
March 8th, 2008 at 10:49:16  From: mjs
Gus Smith and Al make some great points. Why is it that supposedly intelligent, informed people swallow the whole 911 Commission's narrative hook, line and sinker? What do they find so compelling and convincing about it? Remember, Bush and Cheney fought long and hard NOT to allow an investigation to be conducted and when they finally capitulated they were determined to control every aspect of WHO, WHAT, WHEN, WHERE and WHY of the committee members, the cost of it, the scope of it, the depth of forensic science to be used, everything. Philip Zelikow was their PNAC point man smack dab in the middle of the whole charade making sure that nothing that wasn't whitewashed by Rove and Bushco would ever be leaked out. And for all of this relentless treachery by them this country has had to suffer through the worst period of political, social and economic turmoil since the Civil War. And who knows if this will end if/when their term is over? ...and I like Capn Crunch's "citizens' justice" solution.
March 8th, 2008 at 10:50:26  From: Sandy
Tthis is the secret the Bush Admin has been sitting on as hard as they can for the last 7 years. It should have been obvious to everyone that this did not come out of nowhere, and that Bush knew as much as Condi about the warnings. But why we have to hear about it now, and not as soon as Bush walked onto the WTC site with a bullhorn is the mystery. After all, if we had known, a needless war could have been averted.
March 8th, 2008 at 10:51:28  From: Spellauer
The FBI and the CIA had all kinds of substantial information on some of the hijackers. They knew that two of them were in contact with a Saudi mole in San Diego, and that he had been receiving money from Prince Bandar's wife. They knew that others had attended a terrorist summit in Indonesia. Foreign intelligence services had info on Mohammaed Atta, etc. BUT THE WHITE HOUSE DIDN'T DO A FUCKING THING. CHENEY'S TERRORIST TASK FORCE DIDN'T MEET A SINGLE TIME. HE WAS TOO BUSY PLANNING TO EXPLOIT US TO HIGH HEAVEN WITH ENRON, WHICH IS WHY HE FOUGHT FOR YEARS TO PREVENT US EVER KNOWING ABOUT HIS TERRORIST TASK FORCE. AND BTW, WHERE THE FUCK IS CHENEY THESE DAYS? HAS ANYONE SEEN HIM? IS HE IN THE HOSPITAL? WHY ARE WE AMERICANS SO DAMNED INCURIOUS???? OUR ECONOMY IS FLUSHING DOWN THE DRAIN, BANK FAILURES COULD BE ON THE WAY, WE BLOWING BILLIONS IN IRAQ EACH WEEK, RON PAUL GOT BERNANKE TO ADMIT THAT THE DOLLAR IS WITHERING AWAY TO NOTHING AND IT'S DESTROYING THE MIDDLE CLASS, YET WE SIT AROUND LIKE DAZED SHEEP, SAYING NOTHING. WAKE UP AND DEMAND CLINTON AND OBAMA SPEAK OUT ABOUT THESE CRIMES AGAINST OUR COUNTRY AND OUR HUMANITY! MAKE THEM DO THE RIGHT THING!
March 8th, 2008 at 10:57:31  From: 
Look, Bush couldn't plan a walk in the park for two. He's as inept as they come. 9/11 was too big and too successful for Bush to have his hand in it.
March 8th, 2008 at 11:18:36  From: noname
re: retaliation
Telecoms will get immunity so they can help Bush detect and prosecute those who want to hold him accountable for his heinous crimes.
March 8th, 2008 at 11:21:06  From: al
Thanks for your excellent contribution to the
discussion mjs. It is noteworthy, how quickly and efficiently the Bin Laden family were rounded up and planed back to Saudi Arabia. We have never seen our government work this well together and so efficiently except when they were voting themselves another raise in spite of massive government debts. If they had operated with this efficiency and determination prior to 9/11 they would have been able to stop it. Bush and the madmen NEOCONS needed their Pearl Harbor and they took it.
March 8th, 2008 at 11:25:40  From: 
Al I am not reading your crap. Is that bad for you?
March 8th, 2008 at 11:26:58  From: FBI Stalker
X,65
March 8th, 2008 at 11:32:29  From: Eric A. Smith
A comprehensive listing - 238 warnings....
http://aliberaldose.blogspot.com/2006/05/miller-fesses-up-again-moussaoui-to.html
March 8th, 2008 at 11:33:25  From: al
I want you to be free to read anyone's crap
you choose. That is what my crap is all about. Freedom of choice and hope and the constitution and sanity and America the beautiful. It's your thing, do what you want to do.
March 8th, 2008 at 11:34:11  From: 
sorry - two hundred FIFTY eight warnings....
see above...
March 8th, 2008 at 11:38:05  From: dartagnan
No rational person can deny that the Busheviks dropped the ball on 9/11. The question is: Did they drop it on purpose? In other words, are they guilty of mere nonfeasance ... or treason? In view of how neatly and conveniently 9/11 enabled Bush and the neo-cons to carry out their agenda, I'm leaning toward the latter.
March 8th, 2008 at 11:47:49  From: Dan
"No one imagined...." Imagination wasn't necessary. Facts were enough.
March 8th, 2008 at 12:05:46  From: realityzone
$$$$$
richard clark is a true hero. he is the only one who apologised for not doing his job well enough. he warned them numerous times, like talking to a wall. read his books very revealing. how many white wash commissions has lee hamilton been on? check it out. zillikow needs to go water boarding it is the new neocon sport. of course they knew. nothing boils my blood more than 9/11. where is bin laden after 7 years. prince bandar who the bush family consider one of their own. saw the plans to attack iraq before powell did. read the book denial by woodward very revealing how bandar briefed bush on sadam. of course they are all in on it. the truth shall set them free. there will be more coming out . this regime better find an island like elba to retire on. richard clark is now focusing on cyber terrorism.
March 8th, 2008 at 12:06:26  From: Bagdad Bob
The keys to the car were stolen
when the entire plan was ruined. It was just moments after the planes hit that some controller that was not supposed to make decissions ordered all of the planes grounded. The guy did this without his bosses permission, look the story up. When you do you will be shocked as to what happened to this air controller, hell he should have become an America icon & hero. It is sad to say and state that is not what happened. The story follows below. Within three hours of the attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon, Robin Hordon knew it was an inside job. He had been an Air Traffic Controller (ATC) for eleven years before Reagan fired him and hundreds of his colleagues after they went on strike in the eighties. Having handled in-flight emergencies and two actual hijackings in his career, he is well qualified to comment on what NORAD should have been able to achieve in its response to the near simultaneous hijacking of four domestic passenger carriers on the morning of September 11th, 2001. “There had to be something huge to explain why those aircraft weren’t shot down out of the sky. We have fighters on the ready to handle these situations twenty-four-seven. We have NORAD (North American Aerospace Defense Command) monitors monitoring our skies twenty-four-seven. We have a lot of human beings, civilian and military, who care about doing their jobs.” I spoke to Mr. Hordon one afternoon at a coffee shop in Bremerton, Washington. “You have to understand the emotions, the duty, the job of an ATC. We are paid to watch aircraft go across the country.” It’s clear that Hordon is passionate about the subject. A lot of people are. The dark questions that the attacks have left lingering in the national psyche have been recorded. 49% of New Yorkers believe that the government had something to do with 9/11. Following an interview with Charlie Sheen, a CNN poll revealed that 82% of respondents believed that there was “a government cover-up of 9/11.” Jay Leno asked Bill Maher on The Tonight Show about the fact that 37% of Americans (according to Scribbs-Howard) believe that the government was involved in some way with the attacks (Maher was definitely not one of them). As far as the “emotions, the duty, the job” of an ATC is concerned, Hordon puts it this way: “Imagine yourself at a circus, a fair, a crowded sports event. You have in your hand your little child of five or six, you’re amongst hundreds of people and you turn around and see that your child is gone. How do you feel at that moment? You feel panicked. You feel that this is the worst thing possible, so what you do is you engage. When ATCs lose an aircraft, all hell breaks loose. They flip right into motion. We take action and do not wait for other things to happen.” As a former member of the FAA (Federal Aviation Administration) and PATCO (Professional Air Traffic Controllers Organization), Hordon’s years as an ATC are particularly relevent to 9/11 researchers. “I was a certified ATC in Boston west-bound departures, the routing that AA11 and UA175 followed on 9/11. I know it like the back of my hand.” He even received a letter of commendation for his role in dealing with an actual hijacking. When it became clear that there hadn’t been a systems failure of any kind on the morning of September 11th, Hordon was certain that something had gone terribly wrong within the upper echelons of authority. A pilot (third level air carrier) as well as an ATC, he is well versed on in-flight emergency protocol. He is also adamant that if these procedures had been followed on 9/11 not one of the hijacked planes would have reached their targets. “I’m sorry but American 11 should have been intercepted over southwest Connecticut—bang, done deal.” According to Hordon, air emergencies requiring scrambles, or “flushes,” from fighter jets occur 50 to 150 times a year. “It’s routine. At Otis AFB we would have practice exercises two or three times a year. We’d flush aircraft, get the B-52’s up, get the tankers up, get the fighters up. Just out of Otis there’d be twenty, thirty fighter jets. And on 9/11 there were plenty of fighters as well. They were just diverted over the ocean, tied up in drills, etc.” The vast majority of air incidents are simple communications or routing failures, common mishaps that are easily remedied. Nonetheless, when a problem does arise, it is treated as an emergency and interceptors are scrambled. “This is exactly what’s written in our manuals. We alert our immediate supervisors, we get another set of eyes on the scope. We have, two feet away from us, a little button that says ADC, Air Defense Command [nowadays NEADS (Northeast Air Defense Sector)]. Bing, hit the button. ‘Hey, this is me at the Boston Center air space. I just lost a target or I have an erratic target. He is twenty-five miles west of Keene, last reported at such-and-such location.’” Pilots use similar checklists when responding to problems with their airplanes: “If I lose an engine in a multi-engine aircraft I know exactly what to do. I start to control the aircraft to fly with one engine, I’ll shut the ailing engine down, I’ll get the aircraft trimmed up. It’s check, check, check.” Hordon is not persuaded by those who make excuses for the lack of military response on 9/11. U.S. air defenses have been on hair-trigger alert to defend the nation from attack since the early sixties. The idea that, on the morning of 9/11, there was an inexplicable wave of incompetence on the part of his former FAA “brothers in arms” offends him deeply. “The pilots are in their ready rooms, the planes are in open-ended hangars. You have frontline players, pilots and controllers. I’m there, I’m watching. The pilot is there, he’s flying. We have direct air defense command communications. That’s the way it’s been for fifty years.” The unfathomable delays seen in military action on 9/11 are inconceivable to those who have painstakingly investigated the matter—and for a man who worked for years keeping air travel over the U.S. safe. “Military pilots would have their asses off the ground faster than you could imagine. I know how quickly our systems can respond. Why would you design a system that responds slowly to an emergency?” Claims by authorities that, once a hijacked aircraft’s transponders have been turned off, the plane becomes virtually invisible to radar, is another sore point for Hordon. “Bottom line, these aircraft were always radar monitored, we were always in communication with them, even if they were hijacked. The only way you can lose an aircraft these days is for the plane to flat out blow up.” Since any genuine air attack would not likely announce itself as such, NORAD radar has to be able to detect anything. But there’s nothing stealthy about an enormous Boeing passenger liner, whether its transponder is operating properly or not. “That aircraft is represented on their radar scope from the time it takes off to the time it lands. Even little puddle-jumpers out of our local airports. NORAD tracks all these aircraft. They have the world’s most sophisticated radar.” After eleven eventful years as an ATC, Hordon naturally reacted with shock when he first heard that fifty years of tried and true in-flight emergency protocol was abruptly altered in June of 2001, just two months before the attacks. “Rumsfeld put a third party in between the ATC and the Air Defense Controller responsible for scrambling interceptors —the Pentagon.” He speculates that “the phone calls went from the FAA to the Pentagon and were not answered. Therefore the Pentagon never reached down to the ADC base to release the aircraft. The Boston Center’s ATCs got so frustrated with the non-answer from the military that they finally said, ‘get these guys going anyways.’ That’s the way it’s been for fifty years. We scramble aircraft. We don’t wait for OK’s from third or fourth parties.” The no-show status of the U.S. military on the morning of September 11th, 2001, has understandably become the single most compelling point that 9/11 researchers, writers and activists use to support their claims of complicity on the part of the U.S government (and its military and intelligence apparatus) in the attacks. When even those who condemn “conspiracy theory” in regard to 9/11 have questioned the military’s conduct that morning, it’s clear that this anomaly is worthy of intense concern and diligent investigation. Whatever the case may be, there are no doubts that history’s largest and most technologically advanced military was apparently caught completely off guard by four huge hijacked passenger jets that were in the air for almost two hours on the crystal clear morning of 9/11. 9/11 researchers have spent years speculating about what exactly did happen in the cockpits of the hijacked jets on 9/11. Theories run the gamut, from duplicate aircraft taking over the flight plans of the hijacked planes to passenger jets being remotely commandeered in mid-air. Naturally, the technical complexities involved in operating a huge commercial passenger jet can only be fully conveyed by someone with extensive aviation training and experience. “For years, they have been improving what the common person will call an autopilot. The modern term is a flight director. You can program a flight director basically for your entire flight, before and after you take off.” Flight directors—high-tech navigational computers—are used in commercial aircraft because they are always sensing every factor that affects an aircraft’s flight (wind speed and direction, fuel weight, atmospheric conditions, etc.) and instantly make the adjustments necessary to sustain the most efficient and economic operation of the plane. “The Boeing 707 Series, I believe, were the last series of aircraft built where you actually controlled the plane using wires or cables. There are no cables anymore. What we have now are electronic or hydraulic sensors that transmit information to servos and other control devices that apply pressure to the control surfaces.” The fact that the operation of modern aircraft is primarily computerized essentially makes the controls hackable, either from onboard or, if the proper receivers are installed in the plane, from a remote location. “Internally the aircraft had to have a separate receiver unit built into it; separate windows of access into the flight director and an ability to disengage the manual controls in the aircraft and take it over with all of the pre-determined information.” Hordon adds an important caveat: if a flight director was redirected during a flight, the new flight-plan would not necessarily be communicated to those on the ground. Obviously, the training required to alter a flight director’s routing is substantial. But, as a student pilot learns to operate increasingly sophisticated aircraft, this knowledge becomes available as needed. Hordon believes that if the hijackers really did take control of the cockpits this may well have been what they were studying in the flight schools they attended. Much has been made by 9/11 researchers about the seemingly limitless incompetence of the 9/11 hijackers as pilots—amateur aviators who could barely operate light aircraft. This odd fact has led many conspiracy advocates to speculate that the nineteen alleged hijackers may have been merely a gang of patsies or “Oswalds,” groomed by their handlers to take the fall for the attacks without their knowledge or involvement. Some researchers even speculate that these “terrorists” never actually boarded the planes at all. Although this theory may sound outlandish to many, it is however supported by the astonishing fact that none of the hijackers’ names appear on any of the published passenger manifests. But Hordon believes that, if the hijackers really were on the planes and did indeed take over the cockpits as reported, their ability to actually fly the aircraft to their targets is a distinct possibility. “If anybody thinks that these flight directors weren’t sophisticated enough to be programmed to go to these exact, specific coordinates—WTC One and Two—they’re wrong. It has nothing to do with pilot competence.” Hordon believes that it would be relatively easy for the hijackers to reroute a commercial jet’s flight director to hit any location with great accuracy, as long as they had acquired the proper training. This is apparently one of the few accurate scenarios portrayed in the Hollywood movie Flight 93, a film Hordon otherwise dismisses as elaborate propaganda designed to deceive the public and sell the official story. This point is intriguing when you consider the fact that a book recently published by the editors of Popular Mechanics magazine—Debunking 9/11 Myths—specifically claims that the hijackers of UA Flight 93 stormed the cockpit, took over the controls and drove the plane by sight, a method that PM and its army of expert technicians and specialists have nicknamed “point and go.” Besides representing a bizarre departure from Hordon’s expert analysis, PM’s “point and go” theory also contradicts the scenario dramatized in Flight 93. Although it’s difficult for many people to believe that such a lack of consensus exists among the “experts” who support the official story, this is really just one of many examples where this kind of unfathomable contradiction has occurred. Some theorists have speculated that homing beacons may have been transmitting signals to Flights 11 and 175 from within the Twin Towers—all the hijacked planes had to do was follow these signals to their destinations. Although he doesn’t necessarily subscribe to this theory, Hordon elaborates on it as a possibility: “When a commercial jet approaches its destination, the flight director interfaces with transmitters located at the end of a runway and makes the adjustments. All the pilots have to do is sit back, monitor the controls and watch the airplane land itself, even in “zero-zero” conditions [no ceiling height or visibility].” This combination of computerized onboard controls and what is essentially a homing signal from the flight’s destination is called “coupling,” a technological dance performed by aircraft thousands of times a day at airports all around the world. Often criticized by detractors for speculating about the use of “Buck Rogers”-style aviation technology in the attacks, 9/11 researchers are nonetheless vindicated by Hordon who believes that such speculation may not be so outlandish after all. Referring to elaborate experiments done by the military decades ago that involved the remote control commandeering of aircraft, Hordon responds: “In the seventies, they were extremely sophisticated with aircraft. Could they commandeer an aircraft in mid-flight right now? Absolutely, in a heartbeat. Clearly the technology is there. It’s been there for a long time.” It only seems reasonable that if this technology were the most efficient, reliable and discrete means to guarantee the success of such an elaborate operation, the conspirators wouldn’t hesitate to make full use of it. The question of whether or not the hijackers piloted the planes themselves or if control of the aircraft was taken completely out of their hands by operatives from a remote location has always been central to 9/11 researchers. But, to Robin Hordon, it’s, at best, a moot point: “My answer to you is it’s irrelevant. It’s irrelevant whether the hijackers were real and were actually in the aircraft or whether the aircraft was commandeered by external forces. It could have been either one. One way or another, somebody other than U.S. certified airline pilots took over that aircraft, whether it be a terrorist sitting in the cockpit or someone outside the cockpit.” Whatever scenarios Hordon may consider in regard to Flights 11, 175 and 93, he is adamant that 9/11 researchers shouldn’t rest until they’ve gotten to the bottom of the alleged crash of Flight 77 into the Pentagon. To many, the idea that a military jet or missile—not Flight 77—actually struck the Pentagon is a bizarre and almost inconceivable assertion. But for many 9/11 researchers, it is a central and compelling focus. “The particular maneuver that was called upon for this huge Boeing aircraft, OK, it’s highly suspicious that a flight director could pull that one off. We also know that it’s highly suspicious that if it were the pilot that people say was operating the aircraft, we know that that guy couldn’t pull that off. That was completely impossible.” A common notion to which many defenders of the official account cling (including such notables as Noam Chomsky) is the idea that any conspiracy as vast as 9/11 would have had to involve hundreds, perhaps thousands of people, all in-the-know and willing to go to the grave with their secrets. But well researched claims—that many sizable covert operations have indeed been kept from the public in the past; that state of the art technology can drastically reduce the number of people required for any given “op,” and that systemic “compartmentalization” of duties can effectively exploit many people’s involvement without their knowledge—have convincingly refuted this assertion. In addition, the ability of higher-ups to intimidate and silence potential whistleblowers after the fact is formidable. Naturally, Mr. Hordon has a thing or two to say on the subject. “I think we all have to agree that, one way or another, the U.S. military was involved in the attacks. The advantage that Rumsfeld had is that he can classify, reshape, make available, make unavailable any information that he wants, at any time and deny that information to the public for any reason, especially national security.” Hordon believes that one facet of the plan that the conspirators could not control was the individual integrity of the civilians in the FAA—dedicated professionals who would not likely remain silent if they had witnessed something unusual during the attacks. Number one on Hordon’s list are the air traffic controllers: “What part of this whole thing is missing? Is it not the voice tapes from the civilian ATC’s? They had to devise a way to take the loose lips group, the civilian guys, and disengage them. If they are allowed to testify exactly as to their normal protocol behavior, they’re going to prove that the military were the culpable ones.” When he was in the FAA, Hordon was certified as the operator in his facility tasked to secure relevant data after an air emergency; if not entirely because of public safety concerns, certainly for liability reasons. “Whenever we had an incident, an emergency, on-air trouble, some type of a near ‘mid-air’ or a breakdown in aviation rules, we would immediately take the voice tapes and secure them. We would immediately take the radar data on that controller’s scope that day and secure them. Whenever there was an incident, all of the information, all of it was secured. Period.” Despite this rigid protocol, there have been shocking accounts of ATC records being seized shortly after the attacks and kept far from public scrutiny. Hordon believes that these ATC recordings have either been destroyed or mutilated. “The reason that they’re not giving us this early-on information is because they want to paint a picture of confusion, and they had to somehow get the civilian eye-witnesses out of it.” Although the 9/11 Commission, desperate to deflect the public’s attention away from official quarters, scapegoated the FAA for incompetence in regard to the attacks, Hordon believes that the real confusion originated in the Pentagon, a theory that jibes well with the timely and suspicious change in air defense protocol mentioned above. “The FAA has given us the computerized information about the aircraft being tracked. What the FAA has not given us is the internal tapes from the sectors in the Boston Center who were controlling this aircraft.” If there were one point Robin Hordon would like to impress most upon 9/11 Truth researchers and activists it would be that the truth about the non-performance of U.S. air defenses on 9/11 lies in a careful examination of the first few minutes after the planes were known to have been hijacked. “The first fifteen minutes are the key. I have done the math. If we had scrambled some aircraft five or six minutes after we saw this huge deviation, the fighters from Otis would have intercepted American 11 over southwestern Connecticut or just south of Albany, NY. The federal government and the military, for extremely serious reasons, are keeping the public focused on after American 11 hits the tower. But the real focus for 9/11 researchers should be what NORAD was doing five minutes after American 11 lost its transponder and went off course.” Whatever criticism Hordon may have for NORAD and the Pentagon, it certainly doesn’t extend to the individuals on the frontlines of our nation’s civil defense: “These are military fighter pilots. These are good guys. They figure stuff out. What do you think the pilots are doing? Ordering coffee and donuts? No. They are up there, their blood is pumping, they are thinking one thing: ‘My country is being invaded. This is why I stand on the ready in the waiting room down at Otis AFB; so that I can get up and defend my country.’ Do you think they’re going to get on the tail of American 11 when it was heading straight for the WTC and let it hit? No. What they’re going to do is say ‘OK, there’s going to be some bodies and shrapnel…boom.’ They’re going to take that risk.” One of Hordon’s more ambitious proposals for the 9/11 Truth movement is that a support network be developed for the aid and protection of its single most important resource, whistleblowers. “What the 9/11 movement should do is band together and develop safe lives for whistleblowers.” Legal counsel, moral support, even physical protection could do much to inspire those who are considering stepping forward with potentially explosive insider testimony about the attacks. Hordon would also like to see young people being told the truth about politics, history and the world in their schools. “The people who are our greatest assets are the kids in high school. If the military is taking advantage of the susceptibility of high school kids to seduce them to kill people, the peace movement needs to offer alternatives. We need to make available, at the end of the high school years, alternatives of thought in regard to the world’s economy and control apparatus.” Hordon’s plan, though idealistic, is not without a certain opportunism: “I want to go to high school kids because it’s a two for one proposition. First, their ears are wide open. They’re skeptical about this government right now and they’re plugged into the internet. Second, if we give them material to bring home, it winds up on the kitchen table. And what happens when parents find contraband that’s come into the house? They read it. It’s two for one.” Many 9/11 activists believe that their work on issues related to the attacks has greater potential for true social transformation than any other single issue, and Hordon emphatically agrees. “I think that this 9/11 thing is the quintessential opportunity to expose all of the infecting poisons; more than Iran Contra weapons for hostages, more than rampant militarism, more than Watergate, more than Enron, more than the dark side of the world’s financial institutions, more than any other similar kind of thing. I think that this is pretty much their last gasp, and the reason is very simple; the internet. We’re going to catch’em.” Activists with a sense of humor are always a breath of fresh air. After his stint as an ATC, Hordon worked for years at the comedy club Catch a Rising Star in Cambridge, Massachusetts. Something must have rubbed off: “We have two parties in this country; we have republicans and we have republicans dressed up in blue drag. And when we get the blue outer clothing off of the fake democrats, they stand there in their red Armani underwear.” Hordon respects humor as a formidable weapon for activists. As an artistic coordinator for up and coming comedians, he once worked with some of the most talented and successful comics of our time including Jerry Seinfeld and Larry David. Some of the political comics he once coached are regulars on Air America Radio. Of the reigning powers-that-be, he has this to say: “They know they’re done with 9/11. They know they’re cooked. They’re just throwing boxes of nails in the road behind their car as it speeds away and they’re hoping that all our tires get flattened. But it’s not happening. They know they’re pretty much done.” Grounded and well informed, Robin Hordon is not a typical pie-in-the-sky progressive, and he likes what he sees happening around him. “There’s so much good work being done. There’s such a cool pattern now and there’s so many kids coming up who know not to believe the stories they’re being told.” His greatest hope is that these young movers and shakers shun the roads previously taken by their less politically savvy forebears. “Sixty percent of our elected officials are millionaires. Until we change that, we are going to struggle to make our democracy better. And I think that, you now, democracies are OK. I think it’s a pretty good plan. I think we should try to get one.”
March 8th, 2008 at 12:07:12  From: Jesse Hemingway
Tell the fucking religious idiots their leader is Satan
It just goes to show you how dangerous and fraudulent organized religions really are. Welcome to hell, grab a bible and sing Welcome to hell, grab a koran and sing Welcome to hell, grab a torah and sing Welcome to hell, grab a ….. and sing
March 8th, 2008 at 12:12:31  From: Brian
mere ineptitude my a__!
Ineptitude? First of all it wasn't the dim-witted Bush who came up with the plan, but the so-called "ineptitude" of Bush, was he following orders to do nothing, say nothing, while the maniacal Cheney and others devised their plans, to dove-tail with the inept box-cutting airline passengers' plans.
March 8th, 2008 at 12:15:10  From: CK
last paragraph of the article: "But what had happened in the White House in the first eight months of George Bush's presidency had all but guaranteed that 19 young Arab men with little more than pocket knives, a few cans of mace, and a misunderstanding of the tenets of Islam could bring the US to its knees." Enough said? Does anyone with any brain at all really believe the Official Conspiracy Theory? Philip Shenon is creating yet another limited hangout that falls flat on its face to anyone except the most braindead.
March 8th, 2008 at 12:27:23  From: Nova16
Negligence
Gross negligence on the part of the entire Bush Administration turned into criminal negligence on 9/11 and was an actionable offense by the American people. He was briefed by the Clinton administration, was aware of the terrorist activities of al Qaeda, had knowledge of 52 warnings issued to the airlines about hi-jackings and most important of all, a PDB announcing that bin Laden "determined to attack in the United states". Dereliction of duty and failure to protect the lives of Citizens of this country and property should have resulted in his immediate removal from office and imprisonment. This country is in a true test as to its survival as a viable democracy and effective economy as a result of seven years of Bush incompetency. the republican fascists as responsible for the misery at home and abroad. Vote republican at your peril
March 8th, 2008 at 12:38:15  From: Zog The Obvious
No new news here. The Democrats chose to do nothing about it. Why are we bringing it up again?
March 8th, 2008 at 12:52:06  From: al
Bagdad Bob, you may be a man of rew
words, but I swear you make them count. Thanks brother, you are a true patriot and an asset to the America that we all want to love again. Also, thanks to all of you that contribute from your heart to restore our common hope. Yes, I believe that you can't beat the odds. The math of probability says that Bush had to know or it would be common for people to hit the lottery back to back. We the people can demand that the whole truth be told and that Justice be served. We have no other choice.
March 8th, 2008 at 12:58:28  From: Number Six
I want a copy of this book...
I want a copy of this book so I can shove it under the nose of some pompous dimwits, notably Pelosi and Mahr... "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times...."
March 8th, 2008 at 13:08:02  From: realityzone
bagdad bob
bagdad bob i am sensing that you are an old warrior, who knows a lot that the sheep do not.you have had some intense training and then got fed up with the system. some day this truth will come out, only i fear that by then the guilty ones will not be around to be punished.what is your opinion on harriri of lebannon that got blown up?
March 8th, 2008 at 13:18:10  From: Mr. X
you silly liberals
Now ask your selfs why hasn't Pelosi or any other democrat done anything about this. Because they are all in the same corrupt boat. Don't act like this was all orchestrated by the right. The dems the the repubs are both taking this country down and its up to the people to wake the F up.
March 8th, 2008 at 13:20:06  From: donkey blues
Bushlexia
There's an old saying in Tennessee...I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee that says - Fool me once...(3 second pause)... Shame on...(4 second pause)...Shame on you....(6 second pause)...Fool me...Can't get fooled again.
March 8th, 2008 at 13:24:43  From: gEorGe B.
What? Do you expect me to go into the fetal position over this?
March 8th, 2008 at 13:39:31  From: BOB BOBONDE
BUSH AND SLEEZA
THEY WERE WARNED OF WHAT WAS COMING AND DID NOTHING, OBAMA WILL NOT IGNORE HIS DAILY PDB'S
March 8th, 2008 at 13:39:43  From: Leslie
Yes, many Americans saw through the Bush administration's lies and incredible incompetence, including myself. My friends, family and I all were in disbelief as we found out about the events leading up to the attacks and then following them. I live in NYC, and many people I know were and are angry as hell about it! Not to mention all of the administration's lies, cronyism, incompetence and criminality since then. This book is another welcome addition to the huge pile of evidence that already exists and it's a great reminder. Hopefully, it will help flesh out some of the details too. Can't wait to read it.
March 8th, 2008 at 13:53:40  From: greenback
justice
we want all of their heads on wooden platters!
March 8th, 2008 at 14:05:02  From: Rottweiler
THE INTERNET + WHISTLEBLOWERS = JUSTICE
Bagdad Bob @ 13:06:26....thanks for a truly important post. Question: Do you, personally, think BushCo will be sufficiently exposed to be indicted before slithering out of office? The world is watching to see if Americans are willing to fight Fascism.
March 8th, 2008 at 14:15:02  From: Bagdad Bob
Re: realityzone
Not really old warrior, but warrior non the less. Best put would be extreme training. Iv'e been fed up with the system from the start at least by the young age of 18 or 19. Evil on our planet has prevailed for a long time, and evil is what is in control now. We alone can not defeat this evil, we can set it back some and make it retreat, but it always comes back and will continue to do so. Man kind is inherently evil this is what gets the adrenallin pumping withiin ones self and provides a quick high, the problem is that the high quickly subsides and needs to be replinished. It is what drives us this rush so to speak to do evil/bad things, it is when you think that you have gotten away with something that you get the so called rush. What people do not understand and realize that you can get a sustained rush and more of a rush by knowing, telling, and teaching the truth and the facts than you will ever get any other way. Once this is realized the addiction to evil soon retreats, the truth becomes more and more clear. I think that if more people knew the truth they would demand serious and permanant changes. There will be a time when the truth will prevail and it is coming. When this happens there will be no doubt that evil will not be tolerated ever again. As for Rafik Hariri he was a sunni born in Sidon, he left the area and later returned with knowledge and power. He was attempting to set things straight once this was realized and he was making real progress he was murdered. This man and this area is an example of a long history of turmoil that has been alive and well in that region. Lebanon is really a no mans land in the region. What is really important to that area is Damascus, and of course Jerusalem. Everyone including the gentiles wants to "be there", in Jerusalem when the end times are upon man kind. They all are fighting for the "right", so to speak. The entire area is the oldest known area along with Persia (Iraq, Iran, Kuwait)to mankind, it is where it all began. The differences between these tribes of people will not be resolved ever, we the US and other empires have used the area to there pleasure to gain as much of an upper hand as they can. The elites that are runnign the show know the truth believe me they do! They ahs chosen (a long time ago) to pursue the path of evil and they think/belive that evil is thre right path. They and their bloodline for thousands of years have believed this lie, and continue to do so. They think that they can control the entire world through deceipt, and this is what they are attempting to do. Everything that is currently happening is not by mistake. We can/could take our country back but too many are asleep and don't know what is happening and for the most part don't care. They are happy with their surroundings and have been lulled into this false sense of reality. The elites know all of this and are counting on the reaction of the masses to succeed, they know that evil perpetrates evil. When the elites decide that the time is right they will set the wheels in motion to execute the final plan. The man Rafik Hariri, made the mistake of coming back to save the land and the people that he loved and cared for. He was a martyr for his/their cause. I will say pay close attention to Damascus, when it goes so goes the plan, it will be on fast forward from there!
March 8th, 2008 at 14:26:35  From: Bagdad Bob
Re:Rottweiler
Do you, personally, think BushCo will be sufficiently exposed to be indicted before slithering out of office? No they will not be exposed not in the way you might think! The illusion will continue people will scramble to be saved believing more and more of the bullshit they are being fed. The ones that know the truth and are trying to expose it and step out of line will be dealt with severly. An example of this is our current election, do you really believe all of those people voted for the current front runners? If so why? Are they really any different than what has proceeded them? Or is it really more of the same and maybe even worse! If you think that the current regime is bad just wait to see what comes next! They have to keep the illusion alive! The one thing that they fear is the masses becoming awakened, they will do anything to keep them in the coma that they are currently in. Just remember the one and only thing that all men truly fear is death! Believe me the elites are highly aware of this, as a matter of fact they are counting on it! Don't be fooled by the illusion that they are presenting to you, beacuse it is just an illusion!
March 8th, 2008 at 14:50:43  From: realityzone
bagdad bob
bagdad bob i have always believed this is not only an economic war, but also a religious war. a new crusade, when bush used to say, to bring democracy, or freedom to the region. he actually meant christianity. he actuaqlly slipped one time and used the word crusade. control of the middle east has always been a bragging right. at one time for religion another for the trade routes, now for the flow of oil. all are combined now and it is coming to a head. if they could have proven who killed hariri we would have known a long time ago, since they have not it can in my opinion lead to mosad. damascus is a major clue in this so is lebannon, they have water israel does not. iraq has one thing more precious than oil and that is water. al sadr is now a recluse and is studying to become an ayatollah to give him more power. we have ti rethink this whole agenda, i agree the elite have a monopoly on our government and only education of the sheep can break it.
March 8th, 2008 at 14:58:00  From: SJD
Thank you,The Raw Story,and thank the awake and concerned posters here. The truth of the Bush administration's involvement in the world-changing events of 9/11 WILL be known to all--hopefully sooner rather than later.
March 8th, 2008 at 14:58:22  From: hardrain77
It's a shame that it has to be foreign papers that publish what the U.S. press is too chickenshit or complicit to report.
March 8th, 2008 at 15:42:46  From: nellieh
Wimps
I thought Keane and Hamilton were to disclose what led up to 9/11. And they didn't tell us because they were afrtaid of Zelikow? When he was appointyed there were squeals of cronyism with Rice and the White House and other neocons. But they apparrently let him run the show. Show? Hell, "Our Gang" put on better shows than this. Another whitewash and boondoggle. How can Hamilton and Roemer and Keane live with themselves allowing a skank like Zelikow beat the drum and they follow. Pitiful.
March 8th, 2008 at 15:43:35  From: Rottweiler
WHERE IS OUR EDWARD R. MURROW?
hardrain77: Our MSM may as well be cotton candy.... pretty pink fluff, no substance. Hard news reporting has been a long time gone.
March 8th, 2008 at 15:58:57  From: 
Jesus bigger hoax than 9/11
Disgruntled Jews foisted the Jesus hoax on Western civilization. They snookered two billion lemmings to believe it. "Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me..." It was the pedophile Jews who wrote the New Testament who created a pedophile Jesus to justify their aberrant behavior. They were Jews who were forerunners of the Catholic pedophile priests. Now the Pope wears a Jewish skullcap to commemorate their legacy.
March 8th, 2008 at 16:03:00  From: Bagdad Bob
Re: realityzone thinking along
those lines is correct! What is religon? A belief? A way of Life? Or is it both and then some? What you are witnessing is a war of good & evil! Think outside of the box. Most people here think that 911 was done by our very own government or at the very least they had a part in it be it complicent or direct. Now think for a moment what if....the same people that were behind this are the ones running the show. What if they want to destroy the economy, what if they want to destroy our soveriegnty, what if they want to destroy our military...what if! Well these things are what IS happening! Now think about this why? Why would they want to do this (it is by the way purely evil) what would make someone destroy things that have made us safe and reasured us for so long. It surely is not about money there is only so much wealth and they have it and then some. It is about control. It matters not what they use to obtain the control that they seek, they will use anything to gain it. They will use food, money, water, bullets, bombs etc. This is all about control, to control mankind through a One World Government! One leader, one belief (religon) one monetary system. Why do they want this? They think that they have been enlightened that if they can assume this control they can benifit mankind. But all of this at any cost! This began a long tme ago, one group wanting to control another they won't stop until they get what it is that they want.
March 8th, 2008 at 16:05:56  From: ralphie
Incompetence Theories
Anyone who believes their "incompetence theory" is a moron. These people (democrats too) are vampires.
March 8th, 2008 at 16:11:10  From: K
Keep fighting Bagdad Bob,, But know that New World Order was ignorant.. I think they were aware of this power,,but they had no idea how technically advanced this agency was.. Were going to have a revolution sooner than later..It will be BIG.. 9/11 will be exposed and Bush will be charged with war crimes..
March 8th, 2008 at 16:16:03  From: realityzone
bagdad bob
control it is, and they are doing a good job of it. when kruschev came to new york he came out of a meeting. his comment was now i know who runs the world. simple as that. i am sure they are working on controlling the weather patterns of the planet. if they want a war where ever it happens, famine it happens, monetary collapse it happens. we have out lived our usefullness so now we must be brought down. these new world order families know only one thing control of the masses. it is the ultimate communist state. democracy as we know it was an experiment that failed. we allowed the corps. and greed to take over, instead of adhering to the constitution. now we all will have to pay, it is just a matter of how much and how soon.
March 8th, 2008 at 16:31:30  From: Bagdad Bob
Re:realityzone you have
posed the question that ranks the highest among my thoughts...how soon? I think I have an idea of how much, just look at Iraq and what we have done there. As far as how soon, I keep vigelant lokking for the signs that are ever present. Timing is everything! Being prepared and aware are paramount!
March 8th, 2008 at 16:34:40  From: Bagdad Bob
Re: K I think
that it may be wishfull thinking sometimes that ehough people will awaken to carry out the revolution. I'm not so sure that it can happen now or ever.
March 8th, 2008 at 16:34:44  From: realityzone
$$$$$
the one thing they did not count on was islam. how they will over come this outside of total genocide of some sort, i do not know.
March 8th, 2008 at 16:36:53  From: Bobo the Clown
realityzone
You are completely and utterly correct. Sad, but true. But you know, people have made it this far. It's just uncharted territory, no? So, we'll see where this phase takes us. I totally believe 911 was an inside job. Too much evidence to that effect. And Saudis SUCK. They hate our guts.
March 8th, 2008 at 16:40:01  From: drv711
Gulf of Tonkin redux?
So many clues ignored. The neocons wanted to invade Iraq. They needed America to rally behind them. The info Richard Clark and others gave said, "If you let an attack happen, America, will support your war..."
March 8th, 2008 at 16:40:08  From: Subliminal Whore Website
Everybody the shop is closed Larisa is off the meat market for good. Sorry there are other websites out there you can get your hard on with. Thanks.
March 8th, 2008 at 16:42:08  From: Piazza Di Spagna
drv711 why? did you have any doubts? I didn't have any from the start.
March 8th, 2008 at 16:57:41  From: Realistic
911 was NOT an inside job. It was inside incompetence. This Admin is not wise enough to pull off such a cabal. Do you people really think Condi and the gang are deviously smart enough to pull off such a feat? If you do, then you are all hypocrites! This book does not point out anything new or anything any thinking US citizen did not already know or suspect. That is...Condi is a dumbfuck, Dubya is a clueless puppet, and Wolfie, Dick and the rest are using an opportunity of a "war on terrorism" to pad their own pocketbooks.
March 8th, 2008 at 17:02:20  From: drv711
no doubts
Piazza Di Spagna, I had no doubts from the start, either. Can the Dems formulate the info into a strong message to eliminate the possibility of a third Bush term (McCain, McHillary)?? Al Quaeda would dance in the streets for more of what Bush has handed them since 9/11
March 8th, 2008 at 17:02:33  From: realityzone
bobo the clown
bobo the clown all the streets in the middle east hate us, not because we have strip bars, but rather that we protect the dictator leadership of their countries. we support zionism in the middle east. the west has betrayed the middle east since the end of world war 1, and the flow of oil. we are in bed with the house of saud and have been for a long time. i think saudi oil has peaked and they know it, iraq and iran will do for a while longer. the caspian sea stan states will be next. russia and china will want their share. like brezinski said the great chess game of the middle east. do expect a new happening before november, an event or a false flag in october will be a grand surprise..mccain is more of a war freak than bush. shillary is already bought and paid for.
March 8th, 2008 at 17:20:26  From: al
If Bush were blameless he would not need
to have Bill Maher and others would not have to make excuses for him constantly. Anyone that questions the mountain of inconsistencies and irregularities is a tinfoil hat nut and left wing not or conspiracy theorists. If he were innocent he would not need a thousand paid media whores and professional shill propagandists to defend him. He would not be destroying e-mails and copies of tapes and who knows what other evidence. He would not have opposed the 9/11 commissions. He would not have had to sabotage it when he could not stop it. He would not have fought so hard to prevent the implementation. His actions are those of a guilty man because he is guilty and just do not yet know the extent of the crimes. Great post as usual Rzone. Oil to keep the world economy profitable for the few that won almost everything and a little to trickle down on the wage slaves. If the economy fails, there will be anarchy, chaos and bloody revolution. Hopefully, we have a small chance to take back the government and return to the rule of law and government by the people and not by the dollar.
March 8th, 2008 at 17:29:09  From: Realistic
realityzone
"all the streets in the middle east hate us, not because we have strip bars, but rather that we protect the dictator leadership of their countries. we support zionism in the middle east. the west has betrayed the middle east since the end of world war 1, and the flow of oil." You are right on my friend. Every poll taken on the street in Egypt, Palestine, Syria, and others shows the same thing. They like our culture, perhaps even envy it, and HATE our foreign policy. Just look at every Fatwa issued by Bin Laden. It is so obvious that we are creating what our government claims it is attempting to destroy, it is insulting to a thinking, rational human being.
March 8th, 2008 at 17:32:18  From: CB_Brooklyn
Debunking the 9/11 *Anti-No-Plane-Theory* Myths
NEW ARTICLE BY YOURS TRULY! There were NO HIJACKINGS and NO PLANE CRASHES on 9/11. Learn of the 1999 Washington Post article that details the military's hologram project. Learn of the NYPD official who said the South Tower strike "looked like an evil magician's trick". Learn that very few people reported seeing airplanes, and even fewer reported hearing them. Also, watch the ABC video of Peter Jennings. He knew the airplane video was fake. Note his nervousness and word fumbling when ABC played the clip back in slow motion. TinyURL redirects to checktheevidence.com http://tinyurl.com/3ye2cn
March 8th, 2008 at 17:34:41  From: Parallel Worlds
drv711 there might be a big chance my manager Laura next week gets the boot.Do you see what I am seeing?
March 8th, 2008 at 17:35:33  From: Piazza Di Spagna
drv711
Right on!
March 8th, 2008 at 17:38:08  From: Subliminal Whore Operator
9 11
al you already said you don't belong to the (9 inches) niners club, so what are you doing in this board? How can you handle 2 women?
March 8th, 2008 at 17:39:34  From: robert lockwood mills
what bush knew
Either he knew, or Cheney knew and kept him in the dark. Remember...Bush has never been more than a puppet since 2001, and was never intended to be.
March 8th, 2008 at 17:45:13  From: 1984
PNACcios needed attack
the PNAC blueprint of September 2000 states that the process of transforming the US into "tomorrow's dominant force" is likely to be a long one in the absence of "some catastrophic and catalyzing event - like a new Pearl Harbor". The 9/11 attacks allowed the US to press the "go" button for a strategy in accordance with the PNAC agenda which it would otherwise have been politically impossible to implement.
March 8th, 2008 at 18:12:53  From: 1984
"What they will do is stagger along until there's a major incident and then suddenly say, 'Oh my God, shouldn't we be organized to deal with this?" Fmr. Nat. Comm. On terrorism chairman Paul Bremer (Feb. 26. 2001)
March 8th, 2008 at 18:12:57  From: Relax
Massive Oil Deposit Could Increase US reserves by 10x -- http://www.nextenergynews.com/news1/next-energy-news2.13s.html
March 8th, 2008 at 18:14:11  From: realityzone
$$$$$
the new cia sport of water boarding should be tried on some people that hindered the 9/11 investigation. i wonder if there really would be mass outrage in this country if and when the real truth finally comes out. or would the sheep just say business as usual. where is bin laden? if he is still alive i would put my money on and in the house of saud. read the book ghost wars. sands of empire by robert w. merry. all the books by richard clark. state of denial by woodward. house of bush house of saud, on and on. the truth is there.
March 8th, 2008 at 18:15:50  From: naschkatze
Let's see who benefited from the put options. Can we get at the stock market records?
March 8th, 2008 at 18:18:08  From: dartagnan
"There were NO HIJACKINGS and NO PLANE CRASHES on 9/11. Learn of the 1999 Washington Post article that details the military's hologram project." Hoo boy, the REAL loony fringe has arrived! The trouble with posting crackbrained shit like this is that it discredits those who are searching for the real truth behind 9/11 and enables those who want to cover it up to dismiss everyone who questions the official version as a certifiable tinfoil-hat-wearing crazy.
March 8th, 2008 at 18:28:24  From: Rose Flower Shops
7 comment in less than one hour, did I touch a nerve or two?
March 8th, 2008 at 18:29:28  From: 27 Floor Wacker Drive
DA make me "la deal"
Time to change the landlord!
March 8th, 2008 at 18:37:57  From: Dan
I'm surprised the GOP isn't saying that Hillary was flying one of the aircraft that crashed into the WTC and Obama was flying the other--maybe McCain was flying the one that hit the Pentagon??? 'Course Limbaugh hasn't really started on the '08 election, so its early. He might get around to that after taking another oxycontin. But will they explain how 9/11 happened in the single hour it could have possibly happened since at least 1957? Doubt it. Really doubt it. NORAD must really be proud of their record now, eh? McSame (uh, uh) vs. Yes We CAN! Yes We CAN wins!
March 8th, 2008 at 18:41:29  From: al
Two women are easier to handle than one.
In some ways, and depending on how much they like each other. Been there done that but the upkeep over the long haul is demanding. That is why polygamy is still so popular is some places and in other countries. It can be more successful than the traditional type of family structure, if the women are both educated and self-sufficient.
March 8th, 2008 at 18:55:45  From: 
"The Clinton administration could not duck blame for having failed to stop bin Laden before 2001." Wag the dog? Eight months of "nyah, nyah, nyah, I CAN'T HEAR YOU" and they still want to lay the blame on Clinton? Clinton may have been dumb on Monica, but the rest has to do with the death, mayhem and atrocity that may have been very avoidable if the intentionally incompetent neocon Trotskyites had just done a half-decent job of making it look like they were protecting the United States of America. Instead they just played "switch" until the WTC towers "evaporated". And they have done even less since--especially when one considers the warnings before Katrina and the total LACK OF ACTION after Katrina. Well, it created the "deep well" that Obama seems to be using quite capably. YES WE CAN!
March 8th, 2008 at 19:00:59  From: When Reality Hits
MASONS & BITCHES RUN FOR YOUR LIFE
Looks like all the A's were demoted to a c minus.
March 8th, 2008 at 19:03:28  From: Maria & Stupid Grownups
al in other words you have your period today,don't be shy to share.
March 8th, 2008 at 19:07:15  From: ...: )
...someday she is gonna kill me ...: )
March 8th, 2008 at 19:50:17  From: Iolanda
jg63vg
Buona notte amore mio ci sentiamo domani.Sogni d'oro.
March 8th, 2008 at 20:03:38  From: 1984
There's one thing that Osama could not have controlled
and that is the airdefence which was crippled by several different trainings. Cheney: "The orders still stand" as Flight 77 approaches the Pentagon with no action taken to defend it according to Minota. OPERATION NORTHERN VIGILANCE // BIOWARFARE EXERCISE TRIPOD II // OPERATION VIGILANT GUARDIAN // OPERATION NORTHERN GUARDIAN // OPERATION VIGILANT WARRIOR ///// How could Osama know that US was about to have all these trainings? Look them up!
March 8th, 2008 at 20:05:36  From: Bagdad Bob
Re: Al
In some ways, and depending on how much they like each other. Been there done that but the upkeep over the long haul is demanding. LOL! Usually within a couple of hours I might add! Al of this I know you speak the truth from expierince.
March 8th, 2008 at 20:07:51  From: Winston
Gee, did they know the towers were "pulled down" meaning bombed from within? Did the "incompetence" include the pentagon being struck by a missle and bldg 7 imploding from the charges set as well? This story is just as false as all the treasonist bush cronies and politicians who remain silent during the darkest episode of our young country. We must never forget what these criminals are capable of.
March 8th, 2008 at 20:54:32  From: The Oracle
All the Bush Republicans are criminals
Bush Sr. and Bush Jr. are criminals. Cheney's a criminal. Zelikow is a criminal. Rice is a criminal. If we weren't a Banana Republic already, taken over by a bunch of Fascist Banana Republicans, with their chimp-in-chief, every single one of the Fascist Banana Republicans in the Bush administration would be in jail. But remember, everything that the Bush family does is done for their close conservative pals in the Saudi Arabian royal family. Saddam Hussein invades Kuwait and Bush Sr. immediately defends the Saudis, getting most of the rest of the world to join in defending the Saudi royal family. But Bush Sr. blinked. He didn't take the first Iraq War all the way to Baghdad, ousting Hussein and setting up a Saudi royal family-friendly government. Bill Clinton wasn't interested in finishing off Hussein, but during his two terms in office, the Bush Republicans plotted and planned invading Iraq and unseating Hussein, once they got the chance. The stolen 2000 presidential election gave them the opportunity, with Bush Jr. chosen to be president by the Bush Republicans on the Supreme Court. Thus, the first eight months of the worst administration in American history was focused on Iraq and removing Hussein, than on defending Americans from Osama bin Laden, who was himself a Saudi Arabian. And remember, we still haven't seen all the Presidential Daily Briefings covering the months leading up to the 9/11 attacks...only those days that the Bush Republicans, and Zelikow, wanted the 9/11 Commission to see. The Bush Republicans thinking more of the Saudi nationals "escorted" out of the United States after the 9/11 attacks show where their true loyalties lie. And the unprovoked, premeditated, preemptive attack on Iraq in March 2003 plays right into the Saudi royal's hand, too. Just as any Bush Republican (or Israeli) attack on Iran plays right into the Saudi royal's hands as well. Three Axis of Evil members, Iraq, Iran and North Korea, with North Korea thrown in as a diversion. The Bush Republicans took out Iraq, and Hussein, and now must complete their mission for the Saudi royals, by taking out Iran. And it's all about oil. The 9/11 attacks should have failed, except that a totally incompetent and evil administration was in the White House, packed with Bush Republicans more interested in doing the bidding of the Saudi royals, than in protecting U.S. citizens. Which played right into the hands of Osama bin Laden, himself a member of the Saudi Arabian ruling class. The blood, both overseas and that of the victims of the 9/11 attacks. on the Saudi royal's hands and the hands of the Bush Republicans will never wash off. And patriotic U.S. citizens will never, ever forget.
March 8th, 2008 at 21:31:22  From: Former Republican
Masonic Translator:
You are in dire need of growing a brain stem that allows you to be lucid on at least a few occasions a week. The Masons quite prominent in the building this great country for the most part, and to associate the Bastards dead set on destroying it with the Masonic Order is at the least ignorant, and at the worst despicible slander. If you are not a member of the Masonic Lodge, then you have no information to spin. If you were a member of the Masonic Lodge, we wouldn't be subjected to this tripe you spew. Once more, grow a brain stem, do some research before regurgitating some bile you acquired from some website you stumbled across.
March 8th, 2008 at 23:58:55  From: Solitaire
The story of the Bush presidency is a cautionary tale about a political party that specialized in election science based in hatred. Once in power, they offered only greed, graft, and war. We know how that story ended. It is also a story about a country victimized and broken by those same parasites. The ending to that story does not look good. A "Bush Library?" Are they kidding? How about a Bush Prison? Now, that resonates.
March 9th, 2008 at 00:36:38  From: Lam
Bill Clinton was too busy getting his dick sucked
March 9th, 2008 at 00:44:05  From: Jesse Hemingway
FYI
Tuesday September 3 , 2002 BLOODY SEPTEMBER The Russian Connection? By Dave Francis, Foreign Correspondent It was reported by UPI that on the day of the attack (9/11), three money exchanges in Moscow quit accepting dollars. This was before the attack. It is fairly well known here that when someone talks of the Russian mafia, he is frequently referring to people who are not ethnic Russians, but in fact are of middle eastern ancestry, and quite often associated with, or members of, radical Islamic terrorist groups. The conflict in Chechnya is a mafia sponsored and supported war. It is an attempt by these same gangsters to have their own gangster state. Sort of Al Capone's Chicago, but on a nation level. It would appear that someone knew there was going to be an event that would disrupt the financial markets, with the dollar being hit the hardest. Right after the attack on New York, the dollar fell to 14 roubles per dollar for a few hours before rebounding to its current level of around 29. Somewhere, someone made a lot of money. It is also being investigated whether or not representatives of Usama bin Ladin were trading large shares in expectation of a quick drop in the markets. The USA has been critical of Russia's handling of the situation in Chechnya. It has urged restraint, for Russia to negotiate and not use force to solve the problems there. The USA didn't understand the foe Russia was dealing with. Now they do. http://www.francisnet.com/davefranci...september.html
March 9th, 2008 at 04:35:47  From: FBI Stalker
Very good al I agree with you. Just got off the dream with Satan and he told me that is my heart not my penis that it will fuck you and your friends.
March 9th, 2008 at 09:03:02  From: Nova16
strange
It is strange that Saddam, the sworn enemy of bin Laden, fought a war with Iran, and held the Shiites in check for years and somewhat stabilized the Middle East is now dead, bin Laden is alive and making occasional TV appearances, Shiites are in power and Iran is seriously vying for control in the Middle East. Who could be responsible for such a foreign policy blunder? The same guy who is responsible for 9/11 occuring while on his "watch", the destruction of a once viable economy and the scrapping of the Constitution. He still has 10 months to continue his mischief involving war mongering, war profiteering and smirking/dancing while the country languishes in rapid decline.
March 9th, 2008 at 10:11:45  From: 
WHY DON'T YOU BABBIES QUIT PICKING ON THE JEWS! THEY HAVE SAD, INNOCENT LOOKING, DOE-EYES! THEY ARE VICTIMS ALWAYS NEVER VILLIANS! THEY ARE LIKE BAMBI IN THE WOODS!
March 9th, 2008 at 10:13:38  From: 
You've been the victim of a massive worldwide HOAX! THERE IS NO JEWISH RACE! THESE MONSTERS ARE BOLSHEVIKS - EASTERN EUROPEANS! - POLOCKS, HUNGARIANS, SLOVIKS! There is no jewish race for you lemmings to feel inferior to! March 9th, 2008 at 10:15:08 From: FBI Stalker I'VE TOLD YOU, I DO NOT BOW TO JEWISH SUPREMACISTS!
March 9th, 2008 at 11:58:42  From: Bobo the Clown
realityzone
Yup, I agree: My cousin is an engineer who has worked for Shell for years. He said when he lived & worked in Saudia Arabia, the guys he worked amid were always talking about how much they hate Americans, and how stupid we are, and how our gov't sucks, etc. My cousin had no one else to eat lunch with, so he'd go sit with them. They'd insult the fuck out of the U.S. and then turn to my cousin & say, "Oh, we didn't mean YOU, just all the other americans." He said the hate was palpable. He just got used to it. They may hate our gov't policies but don't fool yourself; I think those in power hate we-the-people as well. ANd I don't mean because they are jealous.
March 9th, 2008 at 12:16:54  From: Dani
Never in a million years will anyone ever be able to convince me that our government officials were too inept or too incompetent to foresee the events of 9/11. I would like to suggest some reading by G. Edward Griffin which can be found at the following address--www.freedom-force.org. The title of the article is "The U.S. Government Did Not Fail Its Mission In The Wake of Hurrican Katrina". If you read this article, it will give you more clarity on the government's complicity on the 9/11 events, and everything that transpired afterward. There is a hidden agenda at hand, and if you want to bury your heads in the sand and pretend otherwise, we as a country will keep heading in the wrong direction. Your liberties and freedoms are at stake, and if you think that just because you are the "Perfect Citizen", you will not be affected by the injustices thrown upon but "a few", you are in for a rude awakening. You have been affected already, whether you realize it or not. The sooner you all realize that you are nothing and you mean nothing to your government officials; you are expendable and worthless, the better off we will all be as a whole.
March 9th, 2008 at 12:42:37  From: Bobo the Clown
Dani
Spot on.
March 9th, 2008 at 12:43:43  From: Propaganda 101
"Inept" is only media propaganda to
cover up government intentional criminality in developing and carrying out this atrocity.
March 9th, 2008 at 13:02:59  From: lloyd Hart
911
Yeah, but who ordered the Air Guard to stand down in June 2001 from their civil aviation intercept role that has been in place since the sixties? In 2000 60 passenger jets were intercepted within 15 minutes of going off course in U.S. air space by Air Guard F-16s. The obvious question is - why were the four planes not intercepted on on Sept. 11, 2001?
March 9th, 2008 at 13:11:37  From: Dude
Wow, rough night for the noise machine. Bobo, I'm amazed your posting wasn't removed like mine was. Ultimately, the program needs all our participation, or the house of cards falls. Are we just tools? Are we at Alex Jones' "End Game"? Every day I observe the world around in amazed at the innocence. Am I just paranoid? The reoccurring answer is; If this is in fact where we are, there is no need for "them" to worry about us. That's what scares me more than anything.
March 9th, 2008 at 13:41:26  From: FX
Hitler, Nazis, Al-Qaeda... BUSH FAMILY TIES
Bush family supported Hitler's rise to power financially. Bush family stole millions of dollars from American families directly from their savings in a bank in Florida. Bush family were part of the team that helped create and strength Bin Laden and the Al-Qaeda network. Bush family were the ones that dropped the ball on protecting America and willfully ignored terrorism warnings. Hitler/Nazis, Al-Qaeda, you name it... The Bush family is the worst, shittiest, scummiest, most back-stabbing family in America. Period.
March 9th, 2008 at 13:41:37  From: al
Spot on Oracle, I agree though I think there
is a lot more to it, you present a gret summery.
March 9th, 2008 at 13:51:14  From: Rush to War
We the truthers are going to demand the US be broken down like MABell, It should neber be allowed to get this big ever again. Go to HeLl Bush loving trolls.
March 9th, 2008 at 16:36:43  From: elmer fudd
AND NOW WE KNOW THEY KNEW & WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO NOTHING. SO HOW ARE WE TO FIND FAULT WITH THIS MORON, WHEN WE CAN'T EVEN HOLD OURSELVES UP TO THE HIGH MORAL STANDARDS THAT WE BRAG TO THE WORLD ABOUT. Post Iraq attack and after it became apparent that we were not going to find any WMD, the event that continues to piss me off to this day. Was when Bush was addressing, I think the annual press social and he jokes about, "well, no WMD under here, nothing overthere, etc.,." If I was a parent or loved one who lost someone during this debacle, they would have had to put me in jail. And yet the media, laughed right along with the jerk. SICK!!!
March 9th, 2008 at 19:01:21  From: darker
RIGHTWING OPPORTUNISTS
...in republican 'STINK' tanks took the opportunity to create a new bugaboo-"terrorism" to replace "communism" as an excuse to spend down the USTreasury money by shoveling it into pockets of U.S. war-defense-industry PROFITEERS. ===Every republican in gov't office immediately hands out "defense" contracts to profiteering pals while middle-income Americans get stuck with the bill.===don't drink any mor TOXIC REPUBLICAN KOOL-AID.
March 9th, 2008 at 20:37:53  From: Shrubs & duds
Bush spent his time somewhere between Charlie Chaplin & Adolph Hitler, without the dexterity of the former or the Christian charity of the latter. He has been the ultimate killer clown, running around in a blood-stained polka-dot outfit with a seltzer bottle in his hand. He’s been John Wayne Gacy ass-raping an entire nation.
March 9th, 2008 at 20:54:48  From: 
In the history of the United States there has never been a more incompetent and blood-thirsty ghoul than George W. Bush. It’s not an accident that Bill Clinton can get chummy with him on his way out of the White House. It’s not an accident that he’s hanging out with Bush Sr. Each head waves on a different tentacle connected to the same body.
March 9th, 2008 at 22:46:34  From: Former Republican
Shrubs abd duds
Spot on!
March 9th, 2008 at 23:01:05  From: Bobo the Clown
Dude
It's gonna be a scary future. But those of us with a brain an a privileged upbringing may weather it better than you think... it is historically thus. Not that everyone's quality of life will suffer. I don't care about that. But the chance that most of the intelligent posters here at least have some education and work experience and have never been on skid row means really, c'mon, we have a privileged place from where to observe. Well, those of us who live independent of the Big Corporations. Not pretty.
March 10th, 2008 at 02:05:52  From: Dude
Bobo, I can appreciate that. Think how pissed the people reaching retirement are going to be when they realize their million dollar 401Ks have been reduced to an annual salary. Especially after the Fed has given everything to the financial institutions. Can you picture a bunch of seniors marching on wall street? :) What a site that's going to be.
March 10th, 2008 at 03:34:17  From: Phil
I can imagine it. http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.asp?board_id=4258
March 10th, 2008 at 08:07:34  From: al
Well, at least we on RAW that have been posting
the truth and warnings about the economy do not have to put up with crap from Numbers guy saying it is just a small correction and from TVO asking what credentials we have as economists. Something very strange happened in the markets last night. They were down all over the world by a percent or two. Then by morning everything was flat. There was one hell of a lot of manipulation to make that happen.
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