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3.16.2004 It's getting to that point where John has written many blogs over the past few days, and I have yet to write any. I want to assure all our readers that I am still alive. In fact, John was even nervous tonight and left me a voicemail to that effect when after I failed to sign on to AIM at the regular time. It turns out that two close friends from college came into town virtually unannounced, but in general I have been extremely busy lately. In addition to Raw Story I work fulltime as a Community Organizer in the city of Somerville, Massachusetts. Perhaps sometime I'll discuss that more, but now I do not have the time. Needless to say, it's the type of work that varies greatly from week-to-week, especially in terms of the work hours. Now is a time of increased workload. On a completely different note, I want to say something about John's revelation in his blog today. Not anything about the substance of what he said, just that he makes a sweet literary transition from his financial woes to his love life. Posted by Jesse at 12:16 A.M. | | 3.15.2004 I've finally had it with my computer. You've probably said this a hundred times and never done anything about it, but the speed of my computer is the speed of this business. Sometimes it takes two to three minutes to move between programs. It's like trying to update the site in a loose straightjacket. When the business credit card comes in (oh dear), I'm buying a new one. It's no APR until December, by which point we should have some money. And we set aside business expense money anyway. I can't stand this ****** piece of ***. Also, I just got back from a wholly unsuccessful trip to the bank. Not only was it closed, but I didn't know my PIN number, so I couldn't do anything at all. And I walked. A half mile each way. That being said, you figure I'm probably not in a really great mood. Neither is my boyfriend, who is demanding my half of the rent. Not really able to comply with that, since the money isn't in my account. Fun times. So there, I mentioned him, and maybe that will make him happier. I've been deliberately neglecting to mention that fact about myself, since I thought it was (1) none of anyone's business, and (2) could possibly alienate people. Given our audience, I tend to think not. That answers why there's always a suffocating amount of gay news. Lol. I apologize. ;) Well, now I feel a little better. This computer is making me completely nuts. Posted by John at 5:55 P.M. | | 3.14.2004 Sleepy Sunday. Not a lot has seemed to happen today, except for the expected: Vladimir Putin headed to uncontested reelection in Russia, Spaniards heading for the polls, suicide attacks in Israel. Last night, listening to the Beeb, I listened as a BBC reporter went in a shark-like pursuit of Russians who said they weren't going to vote. It took her maybe ten people. When she finally found one, she quickly summarized: few Russians really care about the elections, and Putin will have to work to get out the electorate (Russia mandates that at least 50 percent of registered voters vote, or the election is declared invalid). Shoddy reporting: Putin has easily met the 50 percent threshold, hours before the polls have even closed. Kudos to Jesse for the great photos from the gay marriage rally. If you've not seen them, check them out. Be patient, it takes a bit of time for them to load. Posted by John at 1:28 P.M. | | 3.13.2004 Happy weekend. It's never terribly happy for me, since I have to work on the site, without too much yield in terms of traffic. But today was a good one -- the signs of spring are myriad and wonderful, snow drops, crocuses, all poking their timid blossoms into the crystal cold. The sun, at least, was out in Massachusetts today, and despite the 40-degree (F) temperature, it was pleasant. Nothing much in terms of site news. Some certainly interesting news: my favorite is the Ohio plowman who was suspended for having a sign on his plow that suggested Bush was a traitor. Fabulous. I actually spent four years in Ohio attending college, and it doesn't surprise me. Frankly, the Ohio electorate really infuriates me, as they reelected the current Governor, Bob Taft, after he basically ravaged the state's economy and destroyed the public schools. Yet he had far more money than his competitor (who, I'll confess, was a rather undesirable Democrat), and thus had the ability to roll out crushing amounts of advertising. I think his competitor, Tim Hagan, didn't even run a single ad. On principle. Just brilliant. I'm listening to the Beeb on Real Media; if you haven't tried it, it's really great. You can get the entire Newshour to pay from their website, along the right side below the fold, at BBC News. Fascinating to me is their coverage of Madrid, where thousands are rioting against the Spanish ruling party, Partido Popular, largely for their support of the U.S. Iraq war, which they believed spurred (what they believe) an al Qaeda attack. Posted by John at 8:23 P.M. | | 3.12.2004 I woke up this morning to Boston public radio, and was reminded that today was the second meeting of the Massachusetts constitutional convention to consider an ammendment banning gay marriage. Regardless of the outcome, this is certainly an historic event and whether at home or my full-time job, I'm never more than 4 miles from the epicenter--the Massachusetts State House. I am kind of a protest junkie. While I recognize that protests are often ineffectual, with too many contradictory messages blurring the main focus, I am nonetheless excited by the energy that protests stir among people. There were undoubtedly actions planned at the State House throughout the day. I decided that I would stop by on my way to work, and snap a few shots for Raw Story. As I emerged from downtown and entered the Boston Commons, I noticed a group of ammendment supporters gathered, praying to Jesus to prevent gay marriage. I wanted to yell something at them, but instead took a couple photos and realized this wasn't where the action is. Rather, there were hundreds upon hundreds of folks gathered about 500 yards away, on the street that runs right in front of the capitol building. What was odd about this protest, unlike any I'd experiened before, was how intermingled the two sides were. People were so close together that I actually saw a group with a banner reading "no discrimination in the constitution" standing shoulder-to-shoulder with the "Homo sex is sin" man. I later heard a cop giving someone an update on his radio talking about the intense shouting matches that had occured because of this situation. The eight photos that were featured today are only a few of the pictures I took today. Perhaps over the next couple days I'll add more, in addition to some commentary. In the mean time, let me know what you think of the ones that are up. Posted by Jesse | 12:37 A.M. | | 3.11.2004 Woo hoo. Just generally. Traffic yesterday broke records again, tho full stats aren't in yet. Man, these bombings are really starting to get me depressed. It seems almost as if they can happen anywhere now, not just Iraq or Jerusalem. Of late, they've occurred in Moscow, Istanbul and now Madrid. One wonders if the next one will be in the U.S. And with John Ashcroft still hospitalized for recovery, who's going to keep us safe? Cute little Amazon.com ads are going to start appearing throughout the site. If you buy a book through one of our links, we'll get a little sumthin-sumthin. No, not that! (if only). Also, if you want to buy something else, just click anywhere on the ad and reorient yourself once on the site. A reminder, again, to take the survey linked from the upper left corner of this page if you haven't already. And if the first time you took it was from home, or work, or vice-versa, you can take it again at other computers. In the week to come, you'll likely see a few new features. The first, and I think the most exciting, will be a "Forums" section, basically a bulletin board where we can get a discussion going. The second will be a "search" function, to locate old exclusives that you can't find any other way. 3.10.2004 You can certainly tell how much time John has in comparison to myself, when he has enough time to write a two part blog entry (see below) in addition to all the other work that he does on the site. I, on the other hand, have not even had time to write an entry in a number of days. On the topic of time, because I often work my full-time job until early evening, I only have a few hours each night to dedicate to Raw Story. I tend to spend about 4 hours in the evening working on updating the front page, adding exclusives, and much time responding to prospective writers. Tonight, that was really all I did. Usually, this task is just tedious, with first time contacts that have to receive a form message in response. Occassionally, we've had some real fun messages sent. Here is a sampling. From Christian of Norwalk, CT:
First of all, I still don't understand the American conservative obsession with France, but that's a commentary for another occasion. This was obviously a failed attempt at hate mail (or at least a strong dislike) but the guy left his signature on the email so I have his address! Because I'm not as stupid as he is, I'm not posting it here! At least our anti-France friend had a point, though. Sometimes there are weirdos who write message that don't make any sense. This came in an email with the subject "JohnKerry Defender and Drudge Alternative Prospect here." The message:
I believe this is in reference to the Comedienne, Jeneane Garofolo, who's act is a bit stale and annoying, but certainly has nothing to do with Raw Story! We should be so lucky to have such a celebrity endorsement! -Jesse 3.9.2004 Entry 2: Quick things: Please take our survey, above and the left. When we have 200 surveys done, our ad company will be able to allow us to run targeted ad campaigns, which will pay more and be more relevant to our readers' interests. Secondly, if you do any shopping from Amazon.com, use our button to get to their page to make your purchases. We'll receive a 3 to 10 percent commission on anything you buy (at no extra expense to you, of course!) Stats are in. Yesterday's total hits cruised in at a beautiful 62,156, with 2,926 unique viewers. Today's will likely be higher, though totals aren't in yet. It looks like our 3-4p.m. hour today was our highest per-hour yet. In the past week, we've had visitors from 72 countries including Cuba, Libya, Syria, Oman, Tunisia, Nigeria, Kuwait, Lebanon, Israel, Vietnam, Switzerland and Iran. 89 percent of our traffic was from the United States. Even more exciting: We've been linked from the amazing Drudge ReTORT (left column). Entry 1: So yesterday (and today's) traffic shot up 40 percent or so, largely due to a reposting of our exclusive on The Liberty Forum (under news & current events). Not quite sure what it is; seems to be somewhat conservative. Good for traffic, though. Someone asked me what our traffic actually is, and I can't actually say right now b/c I'm waiting on our current stat logs. Hits yesterday were probably about 50,000, with our highest unique user ratio ever, probably about 3,000. Our traffic is also up today, perhaps higher (hits and uniques) than yesterday. The Nevada exclusive has been reposted and linked from a mu ltitude of pages around the world. I was perversely pleased to see that hideous fat man, Karl Rove, at the center of the CIA agent leak investigation. No, of course the man who's LEADING Bush's reelection campaign won't go to jail, much less be slapped on the hand. But the Dems could certainly use it to their advantage. Which they probably won't. Love the story about the hungry catfish, and the 14-year-olds voting in California. Hoped you did too. We had a little trouble coming up with a new poll question — comment below if you've any ideas for next week. 3.8.2004 Jesus, Dubya. Fake firefighters? As if it was worse enough that he used the skeletal remains of the World Trade Center in his ads, he had to use fake firefighters. Must have been Karl Rove's idea. To all correspondents who've submitted material and it hasn't been posted, don't despair! I know there are a bunch of you; my mailbox is perenially clogged. If you'd like, email me to check in to make sure it hasn't ended up in outer space. Otherwise, it should go up in the next few days. If not, send something else along, or some new ideas. I apologize for my tardiness. One way, actually, to almost guarantee it will go up faster is to email your article to rawarticles@yahoo.com. If yo u've emailed me your article and it hasn't been posted, try emailing it there. Our associate editor, DeAnn, edits pieces sent to that account and once I get them they usually go up immediately. As regards the Nevada story, I or another reporter will make some calls this afternoon. I'm waiting for the time difference to catch up a little bit. We've got a few more leads on that story that look promising; in any case, we'll be able to flesh it out a bit more. And if by any chance Patrick Quirk is reading this, please email me again. I accidentally deleted your message and then emptied the trash when I meant to open it. 3.7.2004 An exciting day. Last night, one of our correspondents alerted us to the case of a student in Nevada who said he's being investigated by the FBI because of his interests in rocket propulsion (and an unlucky coincidence of making his request for library materials on the first anniversary of 9/11). I posted that story, and hope to have more details soon. It's always great to have an interesting exclusive. It's also really amazing to have such exceptional correspondents, who are even more in touch with below the radar news than I am. Lots of new all over the place today; the front page is a lmost completely redone since last night. One site where I've been finding a lot of good material is the British newspaper, The Independent, whi ch I'd advise you to check out as well. It seems to me that the British papers do a really good job with the news. Plus, they have the BBC. To anyone interested in adding advertising to their own site, check out the buttons on the bottom of the main page. If there's anywhere to say where you were referred, indicate "rawstory." These are our primary banner and popup advertising server companies. Also, Jesse got our shops re-linked to the front page, and it looks good. Someone's already bought something since he added it back yesterday! If our sales are good, we may add a full line of merchandise with a much wider variety of material. To have a bigger shop costs $4.95 a month, so we need to be doing some decent sales. Oh, so I think this thing with Howard Stern is really fucked up. I don't listen to Stern, nor do I like Stern, but I think cutting anyone off the air because th ey're being randy is censorship, pure and simple. What's so tragic, in many ways, is that in Europe the sensitivity point is violence; here it's sex. But our non-discussion and censorship of sex, vis a vis Janet Jackson (the French have tits on their TV every minute of every day), results in our having the highest STD rate in the world. Go figure. The less you talk about it, the more rampant it becomes. And for all of you who have seen Michael Moore's Bowling for Columbine (which I personally didn't think was uberfantastic; it was lousy journalism, to say the least, since his use of statistics is as partisan as the Republican Party's), you'll understand how violence in America is an epidemic. If there's anything we should reduce on the airwaves, it's violence. Not long-haired losers. One more thing -- and this to all your people who read primarily from the workplace: visit us on the weekend! We have all kinds of great stuff, and we update even more often, since Jesse and I are both home. Our traffic shrinks like 50 percent on the weekends, and it's all because of you lazy couch potatoes. At least be an Internet potato. It's more interactive. —JOHN 3.6.2004 It's funny that the day after my senseless rant against spam, Bill Gates comes out with an ingenious idea to fight the senseless barrage of junk that fills our inboxes. Actually, his idea is ludicrous. Even charging a measly cent for each email is beyond the scope of good sense. Who would serve as the email postal service? If left up to individual interne t service providers it would provide a simple loophole for spammers. Because of the way the free market works, if services like Yahoo! and Hotmail decided to charge their users even a few cents for each email, a company like Fastmail could expand or a new company could enter the marketplace and once again provide free email services supported only by advertisements. Obviously these new services wouldn't allow Spam (companies like this monitor the volume of email users send, and will close suspicious accounts), but the point is that it would be easy enough for some service to be set up or expanded to allow fee spam-sending in a decentralized self-monitoring system like this one. Perhaps spam co-ops would emerge wherein Spammers pool resources to purchase the equipment necessary to run their own servers and avoid email postal charges. Another option, of course, would be to have a centralized system to serve as a sort of virtual postal service. The problem is that the entire structure of the internet defies centralization. Since the internet does not exist in one location and is rather a network of millions of computers, it would be difficult to grant regulatory powers. So far courts and legislative bodies worldwide have found it difficult to control the web, especially when it comes to financial charges. That's why there's no internet sales tax. What organization could possibly claim the right to charge a fee for sending emails? If some group tried, who would even listen? The best way I can i magine to regulate spam would certainly not be a fee. It's either impossible to regulate or easily avoided. Instead of a centralized or service-end approach, the answer has to come from the user. Rather, users must be provided with and install effective spam filtering tools. The problem is that there simply is no way to stop spam with the swath of spambusters currently available. The mistake of software companies has been with the narrow-minded and surface-level approach to research and development. We've all received those "P e/|/is En|_arge/\/\en+" spams which prove there is no way to filter for keywords, because there is always a new, clever way to misspell words. In that same vein it's impossible to filter for email addresses because spammers can always get a new address. There has to be a new approach to filtering for spam. I am enouraged by the work of a company called Cloudmark, a firm which takes a new approach to combating spam. "Drawing on the advanced biotechnology techn iques used to map the human genome," Cloudmark stops spam by comparing spamDNA to the structure of a regular email. As their CEO writes in the Feburary 2004 issue of Wired, "Like strands of DNA, email messages have a standard data format that amounts to a genome for legitimate email. Spammers exploit and mutate email genes to obscure the origin or content of their messages, creating distinctive spam genes." From the 300 genes their software has discovered, Cloudmark claims enourmous success in prevent ing the delivery of unwanted email. Over 125,538,262 emails processed and 36,572,383 spams caught. With this power in the hands of computer users all over the world, perhaps spam can literally be stopped dead in its tracks.
So it seems that we've basically reached the daily income threshold for me to pay my half of the rent. It's a real achievement, actually, since my rent is pretty steep. Ultimately, what put us over the top was a second banner advertising company, Burst! Media. Gotta love those companies with exclamation points built into their names. In other news, I'm redesigning my father's business' website, which should be a sizable endeavor and yield a fair amount of income. It's the kind of job I can do from home, which is always great. I have so much goddamn email to go through, submissions that have been edited but not posted. Opening my emailbox always yields a sigh. There are pluses and minuses of having a lot of people writing -- the minus is that it's so much more work for me. But it's great that so many people are so inerested and so dedicated to their craft. —JOHN 3.4.2004 I'll be honest. I'm so disgusted by what the internet has become. I remember when I started using the net, around '93 or '94, and it was pure. The hypertext transfer protocol (http) was just gaining mor e prominence over now-outdated protocol's like gopher, and the Archie comics gang (like Veronica, and Jughead). The interne t back then still existed for what it was invented--as a worldwide network of shared information among personal users. It wasn't a tool of profit for sketchy off-shore enterprises that flash seizure-inducing ads claiming "free dvd-players" and "natural penis enhancement." Newsgroups were more popular than yahoogroups, (and the yahoogroups predecessor egroups was not even imagined). And most importantly there was no SPAM! I fancy myself a technology-savy bloke. For a while, I even imagined myself smart enought to outsmart the spammers. I figured I could purchase my own domain, and create two email addresses: one which I could uses as my primary persona l account, and one which was only meant to forward to that first address. Say for instance that the domain I purchased was jesse.com (which it isn't). I first set up something like bossman@jesse.com as the email I gave to family and friends, or other people I knew wouldn't abuse i t. Next I created inbox@jesse.com which was only an alias that routed all mail directly to bossman@jesse.com. I used this for every internet registration (from ebay to New York Times), and every time I thought the address would be given to spammers or otherwise misused. This arrangement allowed me to see all that mail that was sent my way (including those important terms of service agreement changes), but if my various registrations attacted too much spam, i could end the forwarding and thus avoid having spam in my inbox. For quite some time this worked. As expected, I began receiving an extraordinary amount of spam at the secondary address. So I stopped the forwarding, set up a new secondary address, and effectively stopped all spam...for some time. We must beat spam. Next, I'll explore the answer. -JESSE
So the popular press lets us down again; big surprise. Stories that were supposed to run on us in two local papers got shelved again, who knows, if ever, that they will run. It seems like even alternative media can't handle alternative media. Still, our traffic continues to rise (soon we'll be making $1 an hour instead of 50 cents!), and generally things seem to be going really well. We're experimenting with a new ad company, Burst! Media; they seem to pay higher rates but their customer service/interface isn't as good, and the ads that pay well never seem to show up when I visit. The second skyscraper and the ad at the to are Burst! on this page. The other thing is they keep displaying those irritating blink ads, even though I blocked them early yesterday evening. That's some serious time-lag. I've cut back on Google advertising, mainly because it didn't seem to bring a lot of traffic, and it cost a lot more than our other company, where we pay only one to four cents per cli ckthrough. It also seems that our general number of visitors is beginning to grow without advertising. Today's big project is search engine optimization (or SEO), which apparently involves a lot of grunt work but can improve our rankings in the search engines without having a million people linking to us (and without spending any more money). In the coming days we may be adding a new forum fe ature, which is a lot like the comments section but looks a bit more professional (and acts more like a bulletin board). Fraid I've got no political commentary to share now. Jesse should be doing a blog tonight, hopefully; he's been pretty swamped. —JOHN 3.3.2004 I have this terrible daily habit of checking how many people are linked to us on the web through Marketleap. We're up to 58, though t ragically some of those are actually links from releases I posted to Indymedia. Our site stats manager recalculated Monday at 52,000 hits, our highest ever; don't know why that was. Yesterday was 29,000. So starting today, I'm going to add little comment slots (as they are on this page) to each of our exclusives, so folks can comment on stories. I'd like to figure a way to add some sort of comment slot on the front page, but I'm not sure where we'd put it. We're also going to add a 'click here to make Raw Story your homepage,' but we haven't figured out that script just yet. The other day I tried this chat program we have hosted on our server which allows me to chat with other readers. I ran it for like thirty minutes, and no one popped in but other editors. Would people be interested in this? If so, comment below. I have to warn you, though, it's a pretty ghetto chat program (Jesse ca lled it 'circa 1994'), and it just autorefreshes to get new messages. It's really old school. I've never seen anything mo re old school in the line of chat programs, in fact. A fresh reminder to click on our advertisers' banners and ad postings if they strike your fanc y, or not. My laptop screen is shot (it got stepped upon awhile back) and so I have this external monitor contraption that is pretty wack. A few clicks a day from ever yone would make it possible to replace. (Jesse's computer has a plague, in a more befuddling way).Today's Google ads look kinda fun; if I wasn't the orig inal setter-upper of the ads, I'd click them myself. —JOHN 3.2.2004 It is Super Tuesday and what a super Tuesday it is! I woke up this morning, with a throat so sore that I could hardly breathe. My roomate tells me vocal cords sounded on the verge of collapse when I first spoke this morning. I slept for most of the day (obviously had to call in sick to wor k), but was able to get some work done on this site later in the afternoon. Even though it was o nly a few hours more than I usua lly have for Raw Story ea ch day, it reminded me of how great it would be to make this my full-time job. Because of the extra time I had today, I was able to work on a little project for the site. As results have been coming in tonight from the various primaries, I've been keeping track of them on the Raw Story Super Tuesday Wr ap-up. The idea was to not only bring readers the numerical results of the voting, but also coverage/analysis from local ne wspapers in the states that had primaries. But, as it turns out, most of my time has been taken up gathering and entering the data from CNN and various Secretary of State sites. Also, I'm sure no one figured Raw Story for their up-to-the-minute Super Tuesday results. At least it kept me informed and was an interesting experiment in the immediacy with which we can provide information on this site. Si nce this is Super Tuesday, I had to decide who to vote for in the
Massachusetts Primary. You often hear the pundits talking about voters
deciding at the very last minute, literally in the voting booth. Well,
that was the case for me. I knew I wouldn't vote for Kerry or Kucinich,
leaving me with Edwards, Sharpton, or someone who has already dropped
out. While I think Edwards could beat Bush easier than Kerry, I thought
I might vote strategically and vote for him. Reminding myself that I live
in Kerry's home state where he was sure to win, I de cided to just go
with my gut. At first I thought I might fill in the oval for Gephardt
(who I've realized recently might actually hav e been my first choice),
but this choice would not even make a strong statement the votes cast
for Dean today. I think the biggest social ill in America today is the
lingering and unspoken racism that persists in every governmental and
private institutions, from public schools to mass media. While Edwards
preaches about the "two Americas," only the Preacher knows firsthand
the realities of the two races' Ame rica. Yes, I voted for Rev. Al. Super Tuesday is here! But I'm still registered to vote in Ohio (lucky me), so I won't be heading to the polls. Count on us to g et your results early; we always find a way. But there doesn't seem to be any surprises coming. This year's Super day will be as predictable the Oscars, and less amusing. Site news: Traffic is slowly gaining; yesterday we had 43,418 hits. The results schematic finally started giving us statistics on the type of servers people are coming from, and I was amazed to see that 151 accesses had come from military computers. Either there are diehard liberals in the mili tary, or someone's watching. Either way, it's p robably good news. If you're in the military and reading this, give us a shout-out in the comments thingy below. I got this instant message a few minutes ago: "Aaahhh! Intercept ads are back!" They are, yes, but only on accesses from the front page to About us and Editorials. If this rankles you ter ribly, say so below. I find them irritating b ut not that much, since you can click the skip button in the corner and whisk right by. Sorry, in any case. I'm making so little money here we're going to have to give up cable. At the very least, I've got to be able to afford an Internet connection. Curious about why the popunders come and go on the front page? When our ads are active on Google (the ads for us), we can't have popunders running, so that's why they occasionally disappear. This is why you'll sometimes s ee popunders on the inside pages, which offset nixing them on the front page. By the way, if anyone knows how to code for a process by which links to outside news sources are matched with an upper frame (he ader bar) that has a "return to Raw Story" button, we'd love to hear from you. We want to implement this to make getting back to us easier, but unfortunately we don't know how. I h ave to say: that picture of Putin in a fur hoodie is really stunning. He's never looked quite the James Bond villain. —JOHN 3.1.2004 Yes folks, I am back. Actually, I have been working on the site for the past few days, but life just intervened and I haven't had a chance to write a blog entry. Now, I am home sick from work so I have plenty of time to write. Unfortunately, because I'm not feeling well I'm also a bit cranky and get easily frustrated with anything that I write here. In fact, I may have deleted this sentence 5 times already. Another unfortunate implication for my current state is the effect it will have on am important decision I must make. Within the next 27.5 hours I must decided who I will vote for in the Democratic Presidential Primary. Granted, seeing as how I am a Massachusetts voter who has no intention of voting for John Kerry, my vote doesn't matter. Even if Kerry wasn't a shoo-in here in hi s home state and thus Massachusetts was at all competitive in this race, the crappy field of candidates doesn't make me too excited to run out and cast my vote. But I haven't missed an election since I turned 18, and see no reaso n to start now. So, this decision is subject to the whims of my poor mood. Right now, just hours be fore Super Tuesday, I am further from a decision as I have been throughout this entire race. As a ny regular reader of this site knows, I'm not too fond of an y of the candidates. Because defeating Bush is my primary concern, with the exception of Joe Lieberman or Lyndon Larouche I'd probably vote for whoever wins the Democratic nod. Being so disgusted by the "first tear" candidates throughout this nomination process, though, I have no issue with using the party nomination to make a statement, and not to b |