WikiLeaks editor in chief Julian Assange discussed his work with Slovenian philosopher Slavoj Žižek in front of a crowd recently, moderated by Democracy Now!’s Amy Goodman.

“From being inside the center of the storm, I have learned not just about the structure of government, not just about how power flows in many governments around the world that we’ve dealt with, but rather how history is shaped and distorted by the media,” Assange said.

Watch highlights from Assange and Žižek’s conversation in the clip below, embedded courtesy Democracy Now!