Speaking with Bloomberg TV in New York City, CNN founder and media mogul Ted Turner said that News Corp. CEO Rupert Murdoch will “have to step down” over the phone hacking scandals that have engulfed his company.

“He hasn’t survived anything like this, so far,” Turner said. “This is serious. It’s going against the law. Not even Rupert Murdoch should be allowed to break the law. Nobody should.”

Confronted with Murdoch’s excuse — that he wasn’t aware of any illegal activities — Turner didn’t budge.

“[Murdoch] should have known,” he said. “He was chairman of the board. He’s responsible. I took responsibility when I ran my company. You never heard me say, ‘Well, I didn’t know.’ You never saw me get in that kind of trouble, did you?”

Turner has been outspoken about Murdoch in the past, calling him a “warmonger” and even challenging him to a fist fight.

This video is from Bloomberg, broadcast Sept. 20, 2011.