Forensic experts to reexamine WTC rubble

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New York forensic experts will start a major new search Monday through debris from the World Trade Center for remains of people killed in the 9/11 terrorist attack, officials said.

About 844 cubic yards (645 cubic meters) of material recovered from the reconstruction site at Ground Zero will be combed for bones and other remains of the 2,752 people killed when hijacked airliners slammed into the Twin Towers on September 11, 2001.

“That material is going to be sifted to see if there are any human remains,” said Jason Post, a spokesman for Mayor Michael Bloomberg. “We’re taking every step we can to recover the remains of 9/11 victims.”

Experts, including anthropologists, will hand check the material in the 1.4-million-dollar operation, which could go on as long as three months at a closed location at a landfill on Staten Island.

Previous searches through the mountain of rubble from the World Trade Center, which collapsed as a result of the aircraft strikes, have already turned up 1,772 pieces of potential human remains, according to the mayor’s office.

Many of those remains belonged to already identified victims.

The following video is a series of aerial photos of the Fresh Kills landfill, where an earlier forensic investigation of the 9/11 rubble was carried out. The photos are from 2002.

With AFP.

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  • sparkey

    If these investigators don't want to suffer a fatal accident by having a toaster fall into the tub with them, they'll find that there was nothing to find and that the landfill must be sealed in concrete for 70 years.

  • bumpkis

    Previous searches through the mountain of rubble from the World Trade Center, which collapsed as a result of the aircraft strikes,…yeah right…aircraft strikes.

  • Kurt_O

    “…which collapsed as a result of the aircraft strikes…”

    How very fair and balanced of you,. Raw — thanks for clearing that up. I'll make sure Simon Shack of September Clues, Richard Gage of A&E for 9-11 Truth, Professors' Stephen Jones, and David Ray Griffin, and 9-11 Co-chairs Thomas Keane and Lee Hamilton all get the memo.

  • BeeSting

    “which collapsed as a result of the aircraft strikes”

    Yep, keep selling that horseshit.

    Maybe they should look for traces of thermate instead of bone fragments.

  • nader paul kucinich gravel

    Does your government lie to you?
    Does your media lie to you?
    How much?
    fresh kills

  • obfu

    So, lets all send them strength and shield them from the slings and arrows. The truth will out, it is up to us to listen.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Reggie-Abraham/818590181 Reggie Abraham

    We had body parts and spacecraft parts survive the Challenger disaster and every other crash or fire. This is first time in history that everything was reduced to such rubble as to be unidentifiable. Four vaporized aircraft – and three buildings in total freefall. What the heck, the laws of physics are akin to the theory of evolution. Why even consider actual science. This was a crime scene, and yet the bulk of 'evidence' was removed in a day and sent to China without examination. Keep believing, deniers. Keep up the fight, truthers.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RMX__oMKNA

  • http://blogdredd.blogspot.com/ Dredd

    This is a very strange crime scene is it not?

    They wait years and years then decide to check it out a little closer?

    The 9/11 commissioners want a lot of secrets checked out a bit closer as well.

  • gypski

    That isn't all they should be testing for. Any soil anomalies should be investigated.

  • Fab Murphy

    Previous searches through the mountain of rubble from the World Trade Center, which collapsed as a result of the aircraft strikes.

    Aside from living in a well, the writer of this pap should have a byline.

  • onowhere

    I knew I was seeing things when those airplanes hit the towers. I just knew that was an illusion created by the CIA and the NSA and Dick Cheney. Thanks, Bumppiss, for your revelation.

  • John Drake

    While they're at it, why don't they check for nano-thermite particles, too…

  • scott

    That material is going to be sifted to see if there are any human remains yea right

    more like sifting for explosives how about letting steven jones check this stuff and lets see how much THERMATE he can find
    remember WTC7 PULL IT.

  • ae911truth.org

    collapsed as a result of the aircraft strikes? LOL

  • exNYCcop

    Confirm the nano thermite while you are at it. Either put the evidence to rest, or find the people that really did this. The evidence is not deniable. The NYC Police Department taught me that.

  • rauol

    Horse shit. Nine years and NOW you're looking for human remains? Closed site? Clean up all the thermite evidence, oh and here's a bag of human fragments to display for the press… Oh and here's ring and a pendant and yeah, just for laughs – a pristine driver's license of some Saudi guy.

  • markusgarvey

    oh shit…here we go again…what a waste of money… :/ …i wonder were the money trail for this project ends…

  • wtfbamboo

    Is this an April Fool's joke?
    9 years after Dick Cheney's inside job, they are going to sift through rubble and look for human remains???????
    Give me a break. How freakin' stupid do they suppose that we are anyway? I mean not ALL of us are brain dead sheeple.

    What next? Are they going to go to the grassy knoll on Dealey Plaza in Dallas and look for JFK's real killers?
    Or are they going to go to Brentwood and look for Nicole Brown Simpson's real killer?

  • markusgarvey

    this whole project is just busy work…next they will do DNA tests on every bone fragment…your tax $ at work…

  • Tr69

    Sounds like they want to clean up any evidence of explosives.

  • whatacountry09

    I remember that… it's burned in my head. Good ol' Larry Silverstein: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WYdAJQV100
    But of course that in NO WAY has anything to do with a controlled demolition… only the “conspiracy nutz” think that!!!!!

    It SICKENS ME!!!!!!!!!

  • dotmafia

    They should also be searching for evidence of nano-thermite. i hope mr. griffin and mr. jones are on top of this.

  • LIVE FREE OR DIE

    Ok, try to look at it in a possible positive light…maybe, just maybe, there are a few good guys out there…and maybe, just maybe, the only way that they could get a re-examination of the “false flag” crime scene would be to say it was to, uh, look for human remains. I've always hoped that there were enough “good guys”: in the world that one day the truth would come out. I know a great guy, a high ranking military “specialist” who, while also formerly a police officer, also strives for the truth know matter what, especially when possible government cover-up is involved. Though I am quite sure that he is not involved in this “re-investigation”, I am quite sure that if anyone that he knows is, might hopes and maybe's may just be. Then again, I've grown accustomed to government lies since the CIA killed the Kennedy's and Martin Luther King, Jr. But, then again, it kinda seems like Oh Barry O has gotta little thing going on with the CIA right about now. Seems like he finally realizes that he can't trust the CIA as far as he can throw them. Barack Obama, amaze me please! Tell me what the CIA is still hiding from their FAMILY JEWELS. You do have the POWER to really get ALL OF THE PEOPLE ON YOUR SIDE. Just tell us what the CIA IS STILL HIDING AND THE REST OF THE DOMINOES WILL FALL……PEACE WORLD!

  • michaelvalentine

    What? No … don't talk crazy. The best they could do is fuel fumes, end of story. (?) Just because a thing walks like a duck and quacks like a duck doesn't mean that it has feathers and swims, does it?

  • LIVE FREE OR DIE

    If Barack Obama really has a beef with the NeoCon Swine and the Criminal CIA, he's got the POWER RIGHT NOW to deal them a KNOCKOUT BLOW, a CHOKEOUT! Tell the world what the CIA is still HIDING in the HIDDEN FAMILY JEWEL. The CIA will be SOOOO GONE and SOOOO FAST that the dominoes from JFK to RFK to MLK, JR. to JFK, JR. to OKC to 9/11 WILL COME TUMBLING DOWN!!!! The entire WORLD needs to KNOW the TRUTH!

    PEACE WORLD!

    http://www.thenation.com/blogs/capitalgames/208296

  • letssavedemocracy

    maybe they can find the Constitution in there too.

  • bobshin

    A mid-Hudson Valley Republican bigwig got the job to “recycle” WTC material. He came out of nowhere to get this big gig. He remandered some of his findings to local communities who lost people like a twisted barbell that now sits in a local gym. And a piece of a steel beam. If I recall all the steel was immediately shipped off to China.

  • samknotts

    I thought that the Constitution was burned in Cheney's office fire…no? Well, I know it was lost somewhere along the way…

  • Elim

    What the fuck are they wasting their time doing this for? Funerals have already been held for all these missing people. They will not glean any new information on who perpetrated the attacks, so why spend the money on this? They should be looking for other evidence in that rubble, not human remains 9 years after the fact. That should have been done in the months afterwards, not now. Idiots!

  • Elim

    All of the steel was shipped to China to prevent anyone from doing a proper analysis.

  • http://www.r4card.com.au/ iedge

    This is pretty in informative information here.I was not aware of it.The one thing which I am not getting is how much of it is left that wasn't shipped to China as scrap.Please share some review on this mater also,Thanks.

  • vince j

    Get the evidence of NANOTHERMITE explosives used by the US's military!
    Then start a new and serious investigation on the real terrorists of that day: The US's government.

  • vince j

    I second that!

  • vince j

    Ask the pentagon what an E4-B plane was doing flying over Washington that day! Then SHOW US THE FOOTAGE OF A 757 HITING THE PENTAGON!!!!

  • BlueEyedVideot

    Oh he!!, it's just election year pandering, pure and simple. What's 1.3 million dollars when you can keep the 9/11 meme alive until the elections? It's the only damned thing the Party of No can think of to run on. What a pathetic joke this is. Bloomberg ought to be horsewhipped, eye-gouged, and then horsewhipped once more. I can't believe New Yorkers elected this man–again. The 1.3 mil would have been better spent on an investigation of vote tampering.

  • BlueEyedVideot

    Cheney used it to light a cigar.

  • Scott

    The forensic experts are likely following up on numerous Bigfoot sightings in the area during the weeks leading up to the WTC collapses. Sasquatch DNA coupled with super duper nanothermite would put that silly official story to rest.

  • whatacountry09

    Thank you, Maza! I kind of thought you misunderstood me. But now I feel better! :)

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QGX6gh5cDc Who Killed John O’Neill?

    Of course there were planes, that’s what the story revolved around. But it’s also very obvious that the buildings were taken down by controlled demolition. The chemical evidence has already been found and identified.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QGX6gh5cDc

  • theREALtruth

    finally, some truth. the lies of 9/11 were so painful, i left my wife and 2 retarded children. they were so retarded and the controlled demolition at the wtc was so painful i just had to leave. bu$h and the nwo ruined my family, and now this examination will ruin them. ENJOY SUFFERING, FUCKFACE$

  • Heiwa

    According http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20100108/twl-9-11-vi… the NY Office of Chief Medical Examiner has already investigated 21744 remains of NY 911 victims and have identified 1626 persons as dead. However, the NY OCME will not provide the names of said persons.

  • Scuby

    Dick Cheney

  • Joey Tavares

    That’s a good argument, Reggie. I also wonder that there were less than three thousand deaths. Something about that doesn’t gel with me – large high schools house up to 4,500 people. The two WTC buildings? Doesn’t add up – I would’ve thought more in the 10-20 thousand range, occupant wise…

  • harryellimpio

    This is a cover-up for a cover-up, The “looking for human remains” story is so lame, now that everyone has buried their dead and moved on.
    645 cubic metres going for re-processing to remove evidence, or maybe to remove it all-together to fill in a few holes in Iraq or where ever.
    1.4 million more going into the PIRATE coffers, but who can blame them if we let them?
    “What they don't find will be what you will learn about”,

    HH

  • Maza

    The only “conspiracy nuts” are those, like you, who take the official conspiracy theory – that Osama conspired with a bunch numpties in caves to disable NORAD with box cutters despite them launching jet interceptors 67 times in the preceding 9 months to intercept errant aircraft, and to fly two planes into three buildings and cause all three to fall at near freefall speed through the path of most resistance despite the towers being designed to withstand such attacks – at face value and resort to name calling as opposed to examining the facts. The “nuts” you refer to now include over 1100 architects and engineering professionals who are putting their reputation on the line by questioning the official conspiracy theory and demanding a new independent investigation.

    Keep drinking the Kool Aid.

  • Atilla

    Hell, Osama didn’t have a thing to do with it. He was shocked and happily surprized when he heard about it. Even the FBI doesn’t claim he had anything to do with WTC. You just let that Bushco/Cheney/ PNAC programing take hold of your little brain. You sure have no room to talk about drinking Koolaide.

  • dianegee

    I'm interviewing Richard Gage, AIA, from Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth tonight on my BTR radio show Wild Wild Left Radio. One has to wonder why they refuse to let these scientists examine the land fill rubble.

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/dianeg/2010/04/02/…

  • http://wildwildleft.com/ Diane Gee

    I am interviewing Richard Gage, AIA, from Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth dot org tonight at 6pm Eastern Daylight Time on my Wild Wild Left Radio show via Blog Talk Radio. One has to wonder why these scientists have not been given similar access to the rubble in this landfill.

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/dianeg/2010/04/02/…

  • Anonymous

    Hmmm…it would certainly seem that Silverstein is referring to bringing down the building…he later said he meant “pull the firefighters out”, but that makes no sense…there were no firefighters in bldg 7 at the time, they had been pulled out previously for safety reasons.

    However, it makes no sense this was a previous conspiracy to destroy the buildings, either…if the charges were placed by Cheyney’s order, or anyone else’s, then what “decision” had to be made?…if Silverstien was in on it, then why would you mention it on PBS?

    I think it’s entirely a different cover-up. It could be that these enormous buildings are constructed with detonation charges pre-placed, just in case of some mechanical failure that may occur, and you need a fast way to bring it down in a controlled fashion…maybe the time it would take to have a crew rig the explosives is prohibitively long, and would endanger other structures…

    You would NOT want the general public to know about this…and you would certainly not want any potential terrorists to know such a system exists.

    There may be charges pre-placed in the Sears tower right now, for instance…would you want to put your office there, knowing that?…

  • http://wildwildleft.com/ Diane Gee

    oops it hiccuped and doubled. Sorry.

  • Anonymous

    Well, you also wouldn’t want your tenents’ insurance premiums to go up, if it was disclosed to the insurers that the whole building was ‘already rigged to blow’…
    Or is that just called INSURANCE FRAUD…

  • Anonymous

    There were actually almost 50.000 people that worked in the towers. Many of the higher ups were away on vacations or in “appointments” at the time. It is very convenient that only ~3000 died but some had to if the county was going to get angry enough to go to war and allow our freedoms to be so easily taken away (PATRIOT act)…

  • 143

    a big 8 to whatacountry09

  • Anonymous

    well hope springs eternal live free, so let us hope and pray that some good motives are behind this rubble sifting endeavor. I doubt it, but I hope I’m wrong. Most of the damning rubble with evidence was immediately carted off to thermite landfills.

  • Anonymous

    I read that security for WTC1&2 had previously practiced a drill to get the people out.
    The ‘air’ ‘craft’ hit the building pretty high and …
    the EXPLOSIVES weren’t DETONATED until upto an hour after the ‘crash’.
    Rescue teams were just landing a helicopter on the roof to start evacuation.

    Do you remember that they originally got 6000 body bags, I wonder what happened to the unused ones. Maybe, they put only one REMAIN-FRAGMENT in each bag? Much of the REMAIN-FRAGMENTS could fit into a TEST TUBE. SO MANY FRAGMENTS and SO FEW BODIES. Maybe, they just returned ALL of the bags…

  • Joey Tavares

    I’m thinking if the explosions pulverized concrete… I read one of London’s finest reporters, Christopher Story, doesn’t believe for one second that only a few thousand perished. He said he visited the site six weeks later, and NY was still rank with the smell of decay. I think the cover-up is a cover-up … If they higher-ups were away, how many would they have really counted for in the pyramid scheme our work cultures are always based on? And if I may, there were witnesses including first responders who heard explosions occurring AS or just before the planes hit… It is scary to think that we could be lied to about how many people died, yet our social networks have become that fragmented as they have been commodified and digitized. Something’s rotten, and folks, it ain’t Denmark anymore…

  • Dudeman

    Bingo

  • Anonymous

    Why does are government act like MORONS? The easy answer is that it is a cover-up.

    How else can one easily dismiss such actions? They waste their efforts, time and money, while ignoring the ESSENTIAL AND OBVIOUS actions!!!

    Jesus, take me NOW!

  • plunger

    The premise is a lie.

    They are allegedly re-examining the rubble for the sole purpose of coming out with a story that says:

    “During our investigation, our scientists included a scan for nano-thermite in every batch and none was found, thereby proving that the 9/11 Architects & Engineers promoted a false story to perpetuate the 9/11 conspiracy myth that it was an Inside Job.”

    FYI:

    This is the length that the NWO will go to in order to prevent the truth of their misdeens from being learned:

    Here's the followup story on the cyber attack against King World News and one other site that dared to speak the truth about JP Morgan Chase:

    http://gata.org/node/8503

    http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/38500

    http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeek/1270188480.php

  • BuckarooBanzai

    All the steel was not only sent to China, but it was melted down and sent back to the US to make the USS New York. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_New_York_(LPD-21)

  • whatacountry09

    Maza… I'm not sure I completely understand your response to me. My response was facetious… meaning that Larry Silverstein did say 'pull it' and 'pull it' IS a term used ONLY in “controlled demolitions”. I believe that Bush and his Admin KNEW what was going to happen… he could've/should've but didn't. I believe that the twin towers and WTC7 were ALL controlled demolitions based on those Engineers and Architects. I believe NO PLANE crashed in PA and I further believe that either a SMALL plane OR a MISSILE hit the Pentagon. AND… ANYTIME there is a plane crash… I ALWAYS post a sarcastic comment about seeing debris because NEVER, EVER has a plane crashed without debris being left. AND… finally – nano-thermite was there… science confirmed that because of the degrees with which the STEEL BURNED AND BURNED AND BURNED AND BURNED FOR DAYS AND WEEKS.

    That said… I am one of those “CONSPIRACY NUTZ” – only thing is… I'm not a nut. I believe in MATH AND SCIENCE and there is NO WAY… NO WAY in this world 9/11 OR parts of it wasn't let to happen INTENTIONALLY.

    The people drinking the Kool-Aid are those that NEVER want to discuss the facts. Those that keep their heads in the sand and those that call ME and those like me “Conspiracy Nutz”!

    Perhaps you misunderstood my original “facetious” comment.

  • musashi1

    this was the inside job that started the controlled demolition of our country! what if
    real patriots found out and stopped this before the neo-cons and mossad pulled this off?
    we wouldnt be in the middle of the 2nd great depression! the wars of conquest have bankrupted
    our country. and these worthless fucks in washington still pretend like we were attacked
    by outsiders, and they think we are too stupid to connect the dots. if the whole country was as
    stupid as the tea-baggers this might of worked, but thinking people have awoken, and they are pissed!

  • http://richrichardsalmanac.blogspot.com/ David Lynch

    I only hope the claim to search for human remains is a ruse and that there will be a search for explosives residue instead.

    I still can't believe how many like-minded friends and colleagues shut me down when I merely mention that more people should question the official story – let alone draw diverging conclusions! For most people, it's too painful to acknowledge that their government may be capable of horrible things, and they won't even consider it – even when the evidence is compelling.

  • Maza

    My apologies, I did indeed miss the irony. My mistake.

    Best wishes

  • plunger

    Mainstream Media News Blackout Confirmed. Got Fascism?

    http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/38690

  • whatacountry09

    Or the cost one would have to pay for a building that is filled with so much asbestos that you may go broke just cleaning it up.

  • Rush Goofbaugh

    Soooooooo funny. ROGLMAO They really do think we are as stupid as they think we are.

  • Rush Goofbaugh

    check out the video “Loose change” then try “put it all together”. I’ll bet you can’t.

  • Anonymous

    A huge financial liability for asbestos health risks had been taken on not long before 9-11 by none other than Cheney’s long-term benefactor Halliburton. The liability free “act of god” in the form of a terrorist attack got rid of the need for a very expensive asbestos cleanup, along with a lot of unneeded commercial space, not to mention looming structural problems due to electrolysis that might have required dismantling of the towers much sooner than the original projected life and at enormous cost.

  • plunger
  • plunger

    “Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one’s self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all.”

    Michael Rivero

  • Bobby MacIlvane Jr.

    Like clockwork, the ad-hominum attacks come in. Are you working, Scott?

  • panamarick

    Well…despite the better late than never 1.4 million dollar heroics, this study will come up short. Unless…they go about the city digging up old pot holes that were “inadvertently” filled with “debris” from the 911 rubble at Fresh Kills.

    9/11 remains fill potholes, worker claims
    BY THOMAS ZAMBITO DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
    Saturday, March 24th 2007, 4:00 AM
    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2007/03/24/2007…

    “The pulverized remains of bodies from the World Trade Center disaster site were used by city workers to fill ruts and potholes, a city contractor says in a sworn affidavit filed yesterday in Manhattan Federal Court.”

  • quincunx

    Raw Story is now LameStory!
    At the top is says Raw Story wrote this article, but I think they just pulled if off of AP.
    What TRASH CAN journalism!

    Look at this again!
    “New York forensic experts will start a major new search Monday through debris from the World Trade Center for remains of people killed in the 9/11 terrorist attack, officials said.

    About 844 cubic yards (645 cubic meters) of material recovered from the reconstruction site at Ground Zero will be combed for bones and other remains of the 2,752 people killed when hijacked airliners slammed into the Twin Towers on September 11, 2001.”

    A) Now, CLASSSS, we are talking about looking for BODY FRAGMENTS. Can anyone say, EXPLOSIVES throughout the building. Or do you really think people just turn to dust naturally????
    Go outside, class, and step on a bug. It squishes but it doesn't polverize! Your government killed innocent people on 9/11 for political reasons. Now, we all are going to recite the Pledge of Allegience. Blah, blah, blah, liberty and justice for all…

    B) “2,752 people killed when hijacked airliners slammed into the Twin Towers”
    Most of those people were not killed then, but upto an hour afterward when the WTC1&2
    mysteriously lost ALL STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY.

    Now, class, can everyone say, EXPLOSIVES THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING???

    If you don't like the word DEMOLISHED, well, even if the buildings weren't demolished, the people inside them were DEMOLISHED. And for those fellow Americans, they are now looking for TEASPOON size remains of them, and for many, all they will find is their DNA!

    That's what the IDENTIFICATION is DNA TESTING!

    Come here, mother! And identify your child. Now does this DNA look like hers??

    Officially, we have determined by all the methods of science of this great country that this remain-fragment #487398475995 most likely is related to you and some unknown man.

    “That material is going to be sifted to see if there are any human remains,” said Jason Post, a spokesman for Mayor Michael Bloomberg. “We're taking every step we can to recover the remains of 9/11 victims.”

    Talk about the barn door being open! Mayor Buddy, the horses are gone. Perhaps… covered up.

    “Experts, including anthropologists, will hand check the material in the 1.4-million-dollar operation, which could go on as long as three months at a closed location at a landfill on Staten Island.”

    Even an anthropologist! You see, from a casual look at the remains, they don't even know if they are HUMAN!

    “Previous searches through the mountain of rubble from the World Trade Center, which collapsed as a result of the aircraft strikes, have already turned up 1,772 pieces of potential human remains, according to the mayor's office.”

    NOW CLASS, they didn't find bodies they found FRAGMENTS! Can everyone say, BUSH IS A MASS MURDER?

    RawStory should learn NOT TO COPY JUNK and call it their OWN!

  • cireeric67

    STFU!!

  • cireeric67

    You left your wife and 2 children because you believe in controlled demolition of the twin towers.

    It seems you are the FUCKFACE!!

  • cireeric67

    You left your wife and 2 children because you believe in controlled demolition of the twin towers.

    It seems you are the FUCKFACE!!

  • keepworkingforplaymoney

    Can we FOIA for any red/grey chips that are found? How about iron microspheres too.. any mollybdenum still around? maybe the missing 8 stories of WTC7 that just vanished as the building entered freefall for 105ft.. 2.25secs.. if you really believe fire can do that. YOU are fools not us “conspriacy nutz”. When they find tiny bone fragments in Freshkill like those found on top of the Duetche building 2 football fields away. Maybe tiny chunks of the thousands of file cabinets or steel decking. The list goes on and on and on. “The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is.” — Winston Churchill http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv7BImVvEyk

  • keepworkingforplaymoney

    Can we FOIA for any red/grey chips that are found? How about iron microspheres too.. any mollybdenum still around? maybe the missing 8 stories of WTC7 that just vanished as the building entered freefall for 105ft.. 2.25secs.. if you really believe fire can do that. YOU are fools not us “conspriacy nutz”. When they find tiny bone fragments in Freshkill like those found on top of the Duetche building 2 football fields away. Maybe tiny chunks of the thousands of file cabinets or steel decking. The list goes on and on and on. “The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is.” — Winston Churchill http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv7BImVvEyk

  • cireeric67

    Seems most people here are big fans of Rosie O'Donnel.

  • namewithheld

    Not sure how they’re running scared. Seems to me they’re still conducting wars in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Iran, and Yemen, not to mention Honduras, El Salvador, and the rest of South America. And they’re still controlling our trickle-up economy.

  • namewithheld

    Not sure how they’re running scared. Seems to me they’re still conducting wars in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Iran, and Yemen, not to mention Honduras, El Salvador, and the rest of South America. And they’re still controlling our trickle-up economy.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe thermite is what they are about to find. It’s there.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe thermite is what they are about to find. It’s there.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe thermite is what they are about to find. It’s there.

  • jj

    I'm surprised there's any rubble left at all. Guiliani had all the steel(evidence) trucked out immediately and shipped to China for recycling and it was all gone within weeks. Which is unprecedented for a CRIMESCENE. Sounds like somebody didn't want a real investigation to begin with. Look on the bright side some of the stell for those buildings was made into a destroyer for killing the brown people. What a load of propaganda bullshit. God bless America hunh?

  • matticusfinch

    Looks like someone is going to collect the Nano Thermite pieces so pesky scientists cant prove uncle sam wrong!

  • Anonymous

    Trust me, they have the Zapruder Film on a loop in the Oval Office. Not that I’m sure they have to with this Obombya guy.

  • Anonymous

    Trust me, they have the Zapruder Film on a loop in the Oval Office. Not that I’m sure they have to with this Obombya guy.

  • Anonymous

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  • Cherry Pickin' Daddies

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  • whatacountry09

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    What is more troubling to me is for those people to then turn around to those of us that don't believe the story – because we dug deeper – ourselves – on the internet's' and found a million others that don't believe the 'official' story either, and call us “Conspiracy” nuts, crazies, freaks and every other name under the sun.

    It infuriates me and I take it as “insulting my intelligence”; I can't stand when people do that.

    The believers are using pictures, movies, clips and audio that were provided by our MSM only! Isn't it at least POSSIBLE (even just a smidge possible) that our MSM was warned not to dig deeper and leave it alone? Only show this… not this.

    The only reason 'conspiracies' are 'conspiracies' is because our MSM is anything but fair and balanced… and that's ALL OF MSM (not just Fox). They only play what the government agrees with or tells them to.

    “IF” (just “if”) our MSM would've played these OTHER “theories”… is it not ‘possible’ that more people would begin to feel a smidgen of doubt too??????????

    The only time you get 'other' views is when they are aired as docu-dramas, documentaries (be that made in the US or abroad) on PBS, History, BIO, ID, etc., etc. So… if the 'other theories' aren't broadcast from any local/cable news outlets… AND… if these believers are not the type that enjoys watching the stations above… then they get ONE VIEW…MSM. Anything else is not aired on MSM is considered a crazy, nutty theory – made up by those of us that just couldn't accept the towers falling as they did and/or WTC7 which crumbled only when Larry Silverstein said “pull-it” because it has been reported by the MSM that NOTHING HIT IT; or that we just can't accept NO PLANE DEBRIS in PA; or that we just can't believe the hole in the Pentagon came from a commercial plane. The MSM showed us all of this and some believe it and some sought/seek more detail, other views and analysis. Why do I have to be considered “crazy” for that? I know what I learned about science and math and that is exactly why I do not believe the 'official story'; there is doubt in my mind. I can’t control that feeling.

    So… the bottom line is that there are two-types of 9/11 people – 'believers and non-believers'. The non-believers saw and heard the same exact same things the believers saw and heard. However… the non-believers have seen and heard countless 'other analyzed' sights and sounds that trigger our minds' to not rule out' the repeating doubt in our heads that makes us say “humm… how could that be?”.

    We have doubt, all we want/wanted is the MSM to show those “other theories” and explain WHY there are those theories. That shouldn’t be too hard, UNLESS they were instructed/warned not to show ‘other theories’. Same thing with Kennedy & MLK and on, and on, and on and on.

    But… that will never, ever happen because this is exactly how 'they' want it… PERIOD.

    So… you move on… never forget… always question and doubt and never obtain closure.

    And… it's only times like these, when an article is printed on-line, that the infuriation comes rushing back and you are compelled to write (like I just did) because in the end… those believers – with nothing more than then their MSM video, audio and talking points… are still and will always be insulting my intelligence and yet… still… sometimes I try once again to rationalize with those believers… only to find myself getting more passionately frustrated because they cannot and will not open their eyes, ears and minds to at least look and listen to something other than what the MSM puts out and at least agree that there is a possibility (even a smidgen) that at the very least… one thing they saw or heard truly leaves them with a 'slight' doubt in the back of their minds.

    But… that won’t happen and I am prepared for the insulting replies I might get for posting my thoughts and feelings on this subject.

  • cireeric67

    “because it has been reported by the MSM that NOTHING HIT IT”, I guess chunks of the North Tower hitting Building 7 do not count.

  • cireeric67

    Since it was not on tape, it could not have happened.

  • cireeric67

    Maybe they will find pieces of grass from the grassy knoll since it is obvious that the shooters there are the ones that planted the explosives.

  • wtfbamboo

    you mean that “quaint” document. They will only find the remaining shreds of paper, unless they have been destroyed as well sigh

  • teresapasch

    Nearly a decade later… Everything in its own time.

  • lunaursus

    Start sifting through the lies. That would be a beginning

  • ctcadguy

    Remove evidence of thermite – that is why.

    The truth is out.already.

    PNAC Neocons are running scared.

    We all know who they are.

  • ctcadguy

    Indoctrination begins at an early age in this country.

    Pledge of alligence – remember that crap.

    It is drilled into people early that our government is clean.

    What a lot of crap.

  • ctcadguy

    According to the new New York Times/CBS News poll, only 16% of Americans think the government is telling the truth about 9/11 and the intelligence prior to the attacks:

    “Do you think members of the Bush Administration are telling the truth, are mostly telling the truth but hiding something, or are they mostly lying?

    Telling the truth 16%

    Hiding something 53%

    Mostly lying 28%

    Not sure 3%”

  • Foxhunter

    What about looking for Dick Cheney's finger prints?

  • ctcadguy

    Why should he – he is quite correct.

    Your government murdered over 3000 citizens in order to occupy 2 middle eastern countries that were never a threat to us.

    Why – for military bases and oil.

    Get over it douche bag and join the chorus for justice.

  • whatacountry09

    BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    That’s another one of those dark corners of the story that nobody really wants to examine. Remember how high the casualty estimates were at first, and how they kept being revised down and down for weeks after. It seems almost impossible, but has anybody actually tried to verify the casualty numbers? Did that many people really get evacuated that quickly, and if so why were the early casualty estimates so much higher than the final ones? Did they really manage to evacuate 2 or 3 times more people than they first estimated?

  • chester77

    Obama: “that's it, I'm tired of all these teabaggers and lefties putting heat on me. Let's get a crew to examine the remains of the twin towers and prove 9/11 was an inside job by the Cheney administration. We all know there's thermite in there to be found. That'll clear my slate”

  • ellen olenska

    Re placement of explosives in the towers: fyi the trade center was powered down for the two weekends prior to the sept. 11 explosions. the excuse given was electrical repairs. a currency trading firm had to relocate to new jersey since currencies trade 24/7 and not just during business hours. the firm responsible for the trade center at the time was securacom, ceo Neil Bush. bomb-sniffing dogs had traversed the buildings every day at 5 am since the 1993 bomb event. following the first power down weekend, the dogs were cancelled for the first time and not permitted in the towers on any day until the sept. 11 explosions were set off. the entire affair was controlled from the control suite in building 7, the glass having been newly fitted with bomb-proof and shatter proof glass. the cia, pentagon officials and guiliani were all in that room to set off the explosives that had been installed the two prior weekends. the firm that both arranged the controlled demolitions and removed the steel beams after the collapses was a pentagon contractor. the missing 2.3 trillion dollars of pentagon money was hush money used for the operation. if you have more questions please visit 911 truth.com, architects and engineers for 911 truth, pilots for 911 truth. there is a lot more to the story, but this should get you started.

  • plaguepuppy

    And again, if we follow the money we find that the target of the Pentagon attack included the civilian auditors who were trying to track down that missing money, along with an Office of Naval Intelligence group that seems to have been tracking the 9-11 plot itself. Almost all of the Pentagon casualties were in those two offices.

  • maybetheresmore

    Did anyone consider the fact that PERHAPS the Israelis forged more passports and set-up the Saudis? They did it in Dubai, why not do it to us as well? They used fored passports from Britian, France, Australia….why not add Saudi to the growing list?

  • kerwoodmiles

    I think its time to put it to rest and move on for crying our loud.

    Lou
    http://www.anonymous-surfing.us.tc

  • ellen olenska

    ps – one of the civilian accountants at the pentagon is a man I know personally. all accountants engaged in the search for missing 2.3 trillion dollars, those who survived the attack at least, were given early retirement on condition of a gag order. they had to agree never to reveal, even to congress, the results of their investigation.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry, but your theory doesn’t work for me. Are you disinfo or just misinformed?

  • Razz

    Finally a comment I stand behind. I saw a special (on History channel) right after 9/11 about Explosives being placed inside the buildings during their original construction.
    The reason being in case of war on our soil, they would self destruct the buildings so no government secrets would fall into enemy hands. They compared it to our missile silos,which are all designed to blown up for the same reason. NEVER since did I see the same program again. Scortchdearth You are SPOT ON…

  • It's the MIC, Stupid

    CIA: “That's it, blow Obama's head off.”

  • Anonymous

    wasnt the study on tearing the towers down done. i think total estimated costs for their removal beginning in 2009 and lasting for 2 years was estimated at 40 billion dollars. just why would a man buy the towers and realize that in 8 years they have to be torn down and it will cost at least 40 billion and 2 years to safely do it?

    why unless lucky larry applied for terrorist insurance 3 months before the attack, which he did. lucky lucky larry, he gets out of 40 billion cleanup fee. gets paid by aig at taxpayers expense, in more ways than one.

    its obvious 19 muslims in caves in afghan had enough powers to magically make the towers come tumbling down

  • plaguepuppy

    Sounds like a lot of money was spread around to buy the silence of people who knew too much, combined with the emphatic effect of seeing one's officemates incinerated. The other financial thread worth tugging on involves the so called Black Eagle Trust, an off the books pool of money that has been used ever since WW-II to finance black ops around the world, including the attack on the ruble and the crashing of the Soviet economy (Project Hammer).
    E.P. Heidner gives an in-depth analysis of the history of these funds and the connection to 9-11 in Collateral Damage parts 1 & 2 which can be found on Scribd.com by searching Heidner's name. According to him the choice of targets in the WTC complex was dictated by the need to hide the immense amounts in the fund by re-monetarizing them in the post-9-11 chaos, after wiping out selected bond trading firms in the attacks themselves.

  • Anonymous

    You have your head screwed on backwards.

  • Anonymous

    You’re a “birther” too, right? How’s that going for ya?

  • Anonymous

    Your comments are freakish. You sound like someone from New Hampshire, one of those old, farty Loeb (you know, the “tough” guy publisher of one of the world’s worst right wing nutsheets) types, paranoid as all hell, always spoiling for a fight, and dead certain that you and only you are right.

  • Anonymous

    Why should anyone trust you? Offer some evidence, you quack!

  • Anonymous

    You paranoid twit!

  • Anonymous

    Maybe you should look for traces of a brain in your head! God, what garbage. You really need to get at least an 8th grade education.

  • geo1671

    Investigation of concrete dust for body parts–after 10 years–what's left,these politicians are nuts
    Imagine this in the coming weeks–Pile of rubble,Atta's dick was was found and stll erect.
    One question for Larry Silverstein–Why did you allow 100s of }sreal art students to occupy one whole floor of WTC 2 and did they have a lease and how much.I bet $100 bucks,not one body part (boner) will be one of the art fart }sreal MOSSAD students–all save and sound back in }srael.
    Last week it was reported on Sept 11 2001 around 3PM, fully loaded Israel plane departed from JFK airport –with FBI agents help. How nice :^/

  • JoJOOs

    Fool: kerwoodmiles
    JUst as forgotten who really killed JFK or the phonie moon landings and Tomkin affair ,Oh wait,let's all forget the death of over 34 navy men on the USS liberty and really forget about our tax dollars funding }sreal to kill Palistinians or the 1,000.000++ Iraqies that did nothing to you buster!
    Guys like you need a swift kick up your kester :^/

  • wtfbamboo

    you know where all that missing $$ is? in Cheney's deep pockets and Bush's and Rumsfeld's and all their cronies. that's also where all the billions of gold bullion from under WTC is as well

  • Hologram5

    You tell me when in history has a building come down due to airplane strike. Hell, the Sears tower was hit, the Chicago tower was hit as well. A huge tower in Bejing burned for a WEEK and didn’t come down. Keep on drinking that Kool-aide force fed by the BUSHCO cronies.

  • Hologram5

    No doubt bro, this could definately be a submission move IF he wanted to do something about it. Too much money involved now, even the high rollers on Wall Street would cry foul to an investigation because of the insider trading on the airlines the days prior to the event.

  • Hologram5

    I have seen some video of that. The FBI released a doctored up video that shows nothing more that a flash when the plane allegedly hit. I’m sorry but from watching that video, there is NO WAY in hell that this was a plane hitting the pentagon, more likely a patriot cruise missle which looks curiously like a plane due to the fact it has wings.

  • Jay

    Ridiculous that it has taken this long. My parents have a baggie full of bone pieces from the “fill” used in the construction of a retaining wall and patio in Connecticut. Guess where the “fill” came from? They tried to contact someone to send it to back in 2002/3, but were laughed at! The workers doing the construction admitted it came from Fresh Kills, and one of them was really bothered by the obvious bone fragments. But he needed to keep his job, so…

    :(

  • Anonymous

    I was actulally kind of being facetious.

  • Jesse

    Ellen, everything you wrote is consistent with what I've learned in hundreds of hours of reading on 9/11 and related issues. I knew about the 2.3 trillion missing dollars Rumsfeld announced on Sept. 10th, 2001, but never thought about it being hush money. In any case, you are spot-on regarding the use of WTC7 as a control suite on the morning of 9/11 (the reason it too was demolished). And I'll never forget People Magazine quoting a WTC employee about the WTC building evacuations in the weeks prior to 9/11 (opportunity to plant explosives). The proof of official complicity is there for anyone that really wants the truth, but of course ignorance is bliss.

  • nunyabiz

    It always amazes me how people can say they are looking for “tiny little shards of bone” and the only thing they can find of a person fits into a test tube yet somehow cant make the obvious connection that the ONLY way that human bodies end up blown into tiny little pieces is from HIGH EXPLOSIVES not a gravity collapse.
    I mean how stupid do you have to be?

  • Hologram5

    Don't forget the fact that Marvin Bush, yes, GW's brother, was a principal in THAT very security company.
    http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/911se…

  • Anonymous

    Hey onowhere nowhere man,
    No I’m not a birther. Don’t pretend to know anything about me or ALL the others whose comments you have criticized. Go listen to the song that was written about you. Maybe you’ll learn something, if you have the capacity to learn. From the appearance of your ignorant, critical, close minded comments it would seem that you do not have the capacity to learn, or think.

  • austin_parker

    If anyone would like investigate 9/11, I recommend http://investigate911.org as it cuts to the chase with the most damming evidence that 9/11 wan a false-flag operation.

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