“According to official figures, annual fatalities from mining accidents have totaled less than 20 in West Virginia since 1983, except for 1991 when there were 22 and 2006 when there were 25.”

So, in other, more straight forward words, hundreds of lives have been lost in mining accidents in West Virginia since 1983. “Clean coal” my ass.

These miners are the people libs hate. Men's median wages are the same as in 1973. See graph page 18 http://www.census.gov/prod/2009pubs/p60-236.pdf. Libs bring in non-whites to keep down the wages of whites. So whites in the mountains have to take dangerous jobs to continue to try to get some of the few good paying jobs left for white people.

Every time whites die in the mines because they are not safe, libs are behind it, keeping wages down. The libs took away the bargaining power of the miners to keep their wages down and keep the jobs less safe. This is what white life is worth in Lib America.

Libs hate and despise these white communities in the mountains of West Virginia. They pour out their hate for these people on a regular basis. The entire Lib media machine dishes out hate of these people on a regular basis. In the lib mind, those who died are the bigots of Mountcoal W Va who should be race replaced by non-white immigration.

Spew your hateful, baitful venom elsewhere. Nothing like politicizing a disaster…

That's what Libs do on a regular basis. They metastasize disaster. These are the Founding Stock Americans that Libs hate on a typical date.

Actually ; OldAtlantic , it is you that hates- Cons are the ones who have disrupted unions and your savior Blankenship just killed another couple dozen Americans…

You are PeeWee Herman in overdose; “I know you are but what am I?” Every word you craft is no more creative than when you were six…

Massey Energy is a repeat offender; you; OldAtlantic are delusional and wrong-

Repeat offender because workers lack bargaining power. You bring in non-whites to be their replacements, so white life doesn't matter to employers. That's why men's median wages are the same as in 1973, and women's median wages are what men's were in 1963.

[sarcasm]This is all the union's fault, you know…[/sarcasm]

OK, I'll bite, How exactly do “libs” bring in non-white workers? AND, please offer some evidence that these dastardly “libs” are actually “libs.” Please, as many credible sources as possible. Dazzle us.

I hope the authorities check to insure that “the Company” wasn't behind the explosion in order to promote Mountain Top removal mining.

Immigration is primarily non-white. Libs bring them in claiming the economy needs them or that its civil rights extended to the whole world. Over 1 million legal immigrants a year come in.

http://vdare.com/rubenstein/100305_nd.htm

Edwin S. Rubenstein

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For every 100.0 Hispanics employed in January 2001 there were 123.1 in February 2010
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For every 100.0 non-Hispanics employed in January 2001 there were 97.6 in February 2010
“

Displacement Index: “VDAWDI equals 126.1 (=100 X 123.1/97.6)”

Where's the part about “libs” bringing them in? I agree that illegal immigrants drive down wages, but not that “libs” bring them in

Libs support immigration. For example, Obama and the Democrats in Congress have not stopped legal immigration during this jobs crisis. Its not just illegals who drive down wages, but legal as well. Women's wages slowed their convergence to men's around 1990. It was in 1990 that Bush the Elder increased legal immigration with the votes of the Democratic Congress. If you look at the graph on page 18 you will see that the ratio of women's wages to men slows down its increase after 1990.

http://www.census.gov/prod/2009pubs/p60-236.pdf

Coal is a safe energy product?

Ha ha ha ha. The labor unions history with these coal robbers? Matewan? How about the song, “Sixteen Tons.”

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Some people say a man is made outta mud.
A poor man's made outta muscle and blood.
Muscle and blood, skin and bones;
A mind that's weak and a back that's strong.

You load sixteen tons an' what do you get?
Another day older deeper and debt.
St Peter don't you call me I cause can't go:
I owe my soul to the company store.

Well, I was born one mornin' when the sun didn't shine.
I picked up a shovel, Iwalked out to the mine.
I loaded sixteen tons of Number 9 coal,
An' the store boss said: “Well, bless my soul.”

You load sixteen tons an' what do you get?
Another day older deeper and debt.
St Peter don't you call me I cause can't go:
I owe my soul to the company store.

Well, I was born one mornin', it was drizzlin' rain.
Fightin' an' trouble are my middle name.
I was raised in the canebreak by an old mama lion,
Can't no high-toned woman makes me walk the line.

You load sixteen tons an' what do you get?
Another day older deeper and debt.
St Peter don't you call me I cause can't go:
I owe my soul to the company store.

Well, if you see me comin', better step aside.
A lotta men didn't; a lotta men died.
One fist of iron, the other of steel.
If the right one don't get you, then the left one will.

You load sixteen tons an' what do you get?
Another day older deeper and debt.
St Peter don't you call me I cause can't go:
I owe my soul to the company store.

You are full of shit.

The coal owners are the problem, not the workers. Fuck you're stupid.

Thanks for the chart. It's going to take me awhile to digest it, But I wanted to ask you what kind of effect you think union busting and outsourcing have on wages?

Bargaining “power?” These robbers brought in the Pinkerton gestopo to bust the unions. Hmm, sort of like blackwater in New Orleans. Of course you would be on the wrong side. Even the early history of the klan had the support of the blacks and Irish, etc. to change the inhumane treatment from these plunderers. A common enemy-capitalism without boundaries.

You are fucking crazy.

Fine the capitalist pigs that have illegals brought in and employeed. The law is on the books. Your hero RayGun is the one who started this. Then came union busting. I can't believe you are anti-union. Asswipe.

Very good Denny. Try this.

You load sixteen tons of immigrants from Mexico an' what do you get?
Another day older deeper and debt.
St Peter don't you call me I cause can't go:
I owe my soul to the company store
because immigration kept wages low

1924 Immigration restriction is what busted the Pinkerton gestapo. When there is no immigration, employers have to employ the people here at good wages and safe conditions. That is why things improved so that in the 1950's we had a baby boom. Immigration cut that off.

Outsourcing is like immigration. To work it needs know-how transfer. That is what happened by educating people from India and China at Stanford, which now is less than 30 percent white. Union busting worked during the pre 1924 immigration restriction. That is why labor leaders at that time supported immigration restriction. Income inequality fell from 1924 to the peak of median wages for men in 1973. Since then it has risen.

http://www.thewe.cc/thewei/_/images11/us_rich_s…

Income inequality peaks at the end of the 1920's. It then fell and stayed low during immigration restriction.

Since the resurgence of immigration after the 1965 immigration act and even before at a slower pace, income inequality has risen. Its now at levels from before the 1924 immigration restriction. The chart linked stops in the mid 1990's, but inequality continued to go up. This was the 1990 increase in legal immigration combined with illegal immigration.

The graph shows the loss of bargaining power by workers. That means less safety improvement as well as less wage improvement.

That is quite a radical revision of history you got there…

Try listening to some Woody Guthrie. It's not as evil Glenn Beck would have you believe:

In a half and an hour ago,
Way down in this tunnel of coal,
Gas caught fire from somebody's lamp.
And the miners are choking in smoke.

Goodbye to Dickie and Honey,
Goodbye to the wife that I love.
One of these men not coming home,
Tonight when the work whistle blows.

You “load” them up with the money from companies that bring them over the border. Once in a while they get ratted out, shipped back to make the news, the companies fill up the place where they stay with more. You are really stupid to not know this. Fine these people and it will stop.

You “load” them up with the money from companies that bring them over the border. Once in a while they get ratted out, shipped back to make the news, the companies fill up the place where they stay with more. You are really stupid to not know this. Fine these people and it will stop.

Fuck you.

……..”in 2006, fatal work injuries among miners in the U.S. doubled from the previous year, totaling 47.”

…”Coal mining remains the second most dangerous occupation in America.”

That piece of shit is unbelievably stupid. Idiots like that are really what's gone wrong in the US.

This mining company has a long history of safety violations. Republicans are against any sort of regulation of business. And this stupid prick blames “libruls” when disaster strikes.

Actually, I think he's just a troll, and should be ignored.

Don't feed the trolls.

That's what you did to the miners by supporting immigration to keep their bargaining power low. Its natural that you lash out, because you don't want to acknowledge your complicity with the big corporations.

Bargaining power can be measured by wages and safety improvements. Both tell the same story, lower bargaining power for workers from immigration replacement.

Well, duh. It's corporations that are bringing in low-wage workers. The corps don't give a shit what color they are.

AncientAsshole is just a troll. Ignore him.

What “company” is “Libs”? Is it Libby? I cannot find it. Are you saying “libs” as in liberals, “own” a company that hires illegals to mine coal, slaughter houses and pays them shit? Now we know your problem–drinking wood alcohol.

Don't feed the trolls.

Another day older and deeper in debt.
St Peter don't you call me I cause cain't go:

Don't feed the trolls.

Brad DeLong is an economist at Berkeley.

http://economistsview.typepad.com/economistsvie…

They discuss immigration a bit and income inequality. Immigration also hits knowledge workers which they don't admit.

More on income inequality by Brad DeLong

http://www.j-bradford-delong.net/movable_type/2…

Have you read the book “Cornered”?

Hey, Old! I hear the mines are hiring. Do us all a favor and get an app.

The only way to stop greedy killers like Massey Energy is huge wrongful death or similar lawsuits!
If Massey Energy has to pay billions in damages and court costs, they'll close or grow up!
I'm hoping they will be forced to close thereby saving other employees from a terrible death!

Oh Old! You are so tragically misinformed by your Faux News cronies. I'm sorry, kwertie, I know, I know – “don't feed the trolls”, but I just HAD to, with the nonsense he is spewing. He is talking about WEST VIRGINIA for God's sake! Today still, WV is the LEAST diverse state in the nation. How many, OldAtlantic, of the 10.2% of non-white residents of the entire state, do you think work at that mine? I've heard a few of the names and ages of the deceased and they were Americans for decades, leaving behind family and friends. Now just how, in your mind, do you justify blaming an entire group that had NOTHING to do with standards for the mine?!?! This country was built and grown with immigrants. To say that it should be stopped is anti-American in my book. To say that they are to blame for corporations' lack of safety standards is just plain insulting. It's the CORPORATION'S fault for the 57 safety infractions in just one month. They would rather pay the tiny fines for infractions, than make the work environment safe for their employees. How you get that immigration was to fault for an all white employee force that had been working for the mine for years and years, is beyond me. A bit of a stretch, don't ya think? Or is it your mantra to just automatically blame “libs” and non-white persons? Disgusting! You are not a true American in my eyes, because you stand for the exact opposite of why this country was started.

You would really think that in this day and age, we would have the ability to detect lethel amounts of methane and evacuate it.

Lou
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WHAT THE HELL DOES 'lib?' MEAN? People DIED here due. You hate 'yourself' and could give a shit about these lives and families! You are like Palin! My God, Republican's (Tom Delay, Cunningham, Ney, Bush Sr. Bush Jr. and GOP Congressman and Senator's, and YES, Democrats who are damn 'Politician's' don't care. It sounds like somebody just hates WHITE FOLK? Get help. I am a Veteran, worked for Obama for 17 months, raised $3.7 million for CHANGE (he's been in there a YEAR ONLY and cannot change the bullshit profiteering, allowing corporations, banks, Wall Street to ALL go wild and screw us all for 9 damn years and since 1994 Dems have had NO POWER! LIBS MY ASS…I HATE RACIST people idiot. AND PEOPLE WHO ARE IGNORANT OF THE FACTS. Pull it together man! We are ALL getting screwed by POLITICIANS! PERIOD. You are a slave and I am too. Unless you are a Multi-Millionaire with connections. Ditch the hate it's UGLY! Palin, McCain, Limbaugh, Beck, O' Reilley, Cheney (your buddies) have enough hate, death, and destruction in them for 10 lifetime's. J, Veteran, Nato Command/Intelligence

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To all the folks in Mountcoal W.Va our hearts,thoughts of your loved ones and our prayers go out to you all.This is such a tragic time for the state of W.Va, and all the world.These brave men put their lives on the line each day,to go into a tunnel so deeo into the earth to bring out coal . The company who has these men working really need to get serious about the lives and safety of the workers. They make the company huge money and these poor men are dying at an alarming rate for coal. Wives,Mothers,Daughters,Sons,Fathers& Grandparents are losing family they love with all their hearts. These men are imporant to family &friends something has to change and change now here today.One more life lost is too many . Ride the Asses of the company who employes any coal miner. Safety has to come befor greed of money over human life. I travel through your breath taking state each November , Im taken in by just how wonderful and how friendley you all are . I wish I could live up on the mountain in stead of Fla.My three Grandsons send you prayers& hope and our love . Bless You All.

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