Israel was pissed that it was being (Heaven Forbid!) set up for at least some informal acknowledgment of their nuclear arsenal … they phoned their bulldog.
The bulldog is basically threatening Americans through continuing to foist a nuclear nightmare scenario by a nation with no nuclear weapons, while the nation with a secret stockpile, ‘stealth’ class submarines and has openly bragged to the world that it can move it’s agents in and out of countries with impunity.
Same scenario that was rolled out for the Brits….”Iraq HAS a nuke, Tony…now you don’t want that nuke going off in the UK because you failed to reign in Saddam, now, do you? A nuke goes off in the UK, Tony and we’ll not only be at war with Iraq anyway, but you will go down as the biggest mass murderer in British history dealing with tens of thousands of dead and dying that will effectively destroy your countries entire infrastructure…now repeat after me, Tony…Saddam DOES have a nuke…right Tony.
Make no mistake; without control…every nuke is a false flag waiting to happen.

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LIEBERMAN HESITANT TO SUPPORT ANY PEACE PLAN THAT LACKS ZIONIST WAR CRIMES
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I wonder what he's trying to ask for in exchange for holding the treaty hostage?

Mr. Lieberman,

What's the deal with THIS?

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My thought exactly.

I guess 1550 deployed warheads aren't enough for the Shar-Pei of the Senate.

If Obama suggests it, then Lieberman sings like Groucho Marx, along with his fellow Republicans, “Whatever it is, I'm against it!”

Lieberman would be “hesitant” to support anything that doesn't butcher hundreds of thousands of innocents. The smarmy and insufferable little warmongering prick. How come Herr Lieberman doesn't have any of “his” children serving the U.S. military? Chickenhawk. Chickenshit hawk?

who cares what this old fart has to say.

What did Gore ever see in this man?

MAD is insane but it did keep everyone from blowing ourselves up real good during the long dark Cold War. A missile defense says we can survive this thing. It will add far more unpredictability to an already dangerous mess.

Iran isn't any where near the threat as was the USSR. But, fear wouldn't be as effective if that were acknowledged.

Perhaps another 1500 housing units in Gaza or Jerusalem? After all those “people” who used to own them only make the property values go down, and the new owners (?) are of the right religion, and make the values skyrocket…

Looks like someone hasn't read the NPT.

Here you go, Mr. Lieberman, and don't forget that this treaty is the “supreme law of the land.”

http://www.un.org/disarmament/WMD/Nuclear/pdf/N…

You might want to pay particular attention to Article VI that states: “Each of the Parties to the Treaty undertakes to pursue negotiations in good faith on effective measures relating to cessation of the nuclear arms race at an early date and to nuclear disarmament, and on a Treaty on general and complete disarmament under strict and effective international control.”

Lieberman has a lot of gall to mention the spread of nuclear weapons after Reagan and Bush Sr.'s military support for Pakistan when we knew they were using that aid for nuclear weapons research and Bush Jr.'s nuclear technology aid to India after they had declared themselves a nuclear armed state by setting off a nuclear weapon which made us a violator of the NPT.

If Lieberman wants to make sure Iran has no incentive to build a nuclear arsenal, he should be talking to his Israeli friends about their nuclear weapons aimed at Iran and their refusal to sign the NPT or accept nuclear inspections. If he doesn't want Russia to pull out of the NPT, maybe we shouldn't be putting any missiles, defensive or not, on Russia's border. Does Lieberman think nuclear war is some kind of zero sum game?

I got to laugh at Obama when he states he is still okay with a nuclear first strike on any nation in violation of the NPT when he is spending billions modernizing the U.S. nuclear arsenal. That act makes the U.S. a violator of the NPT. Does he understand that other nations might see that as extreme hypocrisy to justify dropping out of the NPT or never signing it?

In Vietnam, we used bombs made in the forties, and they weren't well cared for; just stored in bomb bunkers. The nukes we have today are probably cared for better than most people care for their new cars. Anyone who has ever been in the military knows the maintenance procedures inherent to any military equipment. Weekly, monthly, semi-annual and annual inspections and maintenance are the norm, so there is no doubt our nukes are in great shape. So that they might be old is not a problem.

The other argument, that this treaty takes away our ability to use nukes on any country signing the non-proliferation agreement, is false. If a country signing the agreement uses biological or chemical weapons against us, we can still use nukes on a case by case basis. People should really learn to both read and understand the language of the treaty, not listen to the idiots who inhabit places like FOX news. Lieberman should retire and start working for his idol, FOX news.

Probably. Also makes the rockets rocket thereby giving more excuses to keep up the militarization of Israeli society.

Lieberman is categorically not an America Jew, because American Jews are first and foremost Americans who are loyal to America. Whereas Joe Lieberman is not loyal to this country because he constantly works against America's interests in order to promote the nefarious aims of a foreign country to which he is solely loyal.

Then it MUST be a good thing.

More are to Israel

Good question. It sure as h*ll wasn't the Connecticut vote.
I bet it was blackmail by Israel

Of course Liarmann (“a shanda fur die goy”) would be opposed. As he left FAUX NEWS, he typed a message on his typewriter and placed it under a pumpkin in their garden.

When will this country be rid of this @$$???

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LIEBERMAN HESITANT TO SUPPORT ANY PEACE PLAN THAT LACKS ISRAELI WAR CRIMES
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American Jews are like unicorns and dodo birds.

Mr. Lieberman is old and senile. Perhaps we should put him to sleep.

like sara ole joe is irrelevant. and boring.

now that his 15 minutes on health care is up he has to find another issue to put him on the sunday morning bobble-head shows.

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Got your two man? I'm but an honorary member of a missile wing somewhere deployed. Trust, the nuclear defense of the nation is in the hands of highly trained professionals. Should this force be reduced – yes, absolutely. Should the treaty be ratified – yes.

Joe Lieberman is (and remains in this regard) an idiot.

Mr. Lieberman is Sold and Penile.

Does the Senator from Tel Aviv get to reside in the Israeli embassy?

Actually, Lieberman keeps pushing issues important to Israel's neocons, average Israelis are nowhere to be found in Lieberman's ideology.

Thanks for being consistent Joe. Of course when you verbalize “our allies”, you mean Israel. Just can't have enough nuclear firepower, can we? No matter that we have the capability of the DOOMSDAY BOMB, 100 times over. Lets pave the way in asphalt between DC & Jerusalem, right Joe?

Please let me have one of the votes on his “death panel”.

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We need to sanction israel as they are the only ones in the middle east that have nuclear weapons ,over 200 that we gave them and they just committed genocide on 1400 people..We need to be protected from our own govt. who get us into wars for greed of money and we need to have a war crimes trial to see if we were lied time and time again for profit..

Mr. Lieberman is ignorant. The more we dismantle those weapons, the better off we are in using the nuclear fuel as an ENERGY SOURCE. There is no need to 'modernize' anything except our nuclear power plants.

No, not again! Will he never go away? If only the people of Conn. could take him out in the woods somewhere making sure he has no breadcrumbs in his pockets to find his way home.
Or at least we could be spared these dreadful pictures of him, some of us are delicat.
In these times of penury the only thing we never lack is slobbery old men in Washington.
Is he protected by the WH?.

its nice that LIEberman (I, Tel-Aviv) is running his mouth again. must be nice work to be the spokesperson for a foreign government while still drawing a check as a senator. it makes me almost wonder what the jews want this time. but then again, its always the same thing. money, money, money, power, power, power, and then their version of “peace” in the middle east (the one where the arabs all bow down to their greatness)

YAWN

i wonder if he gets paid by the word, by the lie, by the appearance on fox 'news', or if he gets a straight commission on the billions of dollars he sends the jews every year in “aid” (read bullets and bombs)?

Eff him.

I think treaties have to be ratified by the Senate before becoming law. That is why Joey is out strutting around again.

Just remember this..The US was the sole nuclear power fo 10 years and didn't use it in the face of Russian aggression. I wonder what would have happened if the shoe was on the other foot?

You have got to be kidding. The U.S. is the only nation on the planet to have actually USED nuclear weapons on another country.

Um, what Russian aggression in those ten years? If you're talking about Korea, you'd do well to read some history. The Korean war was provoked by the US to take Red Chinese pressure off Taiwan. From there we got South Korean dictatorships, the KCIA, and Sun Myung Moon's right-wing jihad against sanity, all funded by the “anti-communists” of the West. Western aggression, not Soviet, although I'm sure Stalin was just as evil.

If there's so much professionalism and care around our nuclear arsenal, it makes me wonder how those nukes got loose from Minot AFB. And where they are now.

God please get rid of this guy.

Just think Crazy Joe tried to be President twice and if he had won Israel would have already taken over the USA. With the planeted moles Israel has in the Branches of Government it's been working well. Rep. Cantor brings in billions of taxpayers money for Israel to not only kill Palestine woman/children but also steal land. McCain promised to bomb Iran and Russia for Israel and have US soldiers fight so Israel's soldiers could stay safe at home. Now that the US and Russia have agreed to a Nuke reduction the World now knows Israel has illegal WMD's and will use them on Iran, Syria or Egypt as needed.

Gore's biggest mistake.

Joe Lieberman
The usual suspects
All Israel all the time

Politicians hide themselves away
They only started the war
Why should they go out to fight
They leave that all to the boys

If the Russians somehow caused that Polish plane to crash, you can say goodbye to this treaty.

Agreed. Second mistake was conceding Florida. Third mistake was not letting Clinton campaign for him.

And we all have paid for these.

Florida, I think.

Makes sense, but it ended up costing too much.

That’s because the people( the banking families) who backed the manufacturing and use of the nuclear weapon wanted to impress upon the world that we (the banking families) will use it.

Lieberman makes sense on this issue. Too bad most of the RS readers are driven by hate and just disregard what he's saying out of principle. No difference between you guys and the tea baggers or the Rush/Beck brain-dead crowd.

Get your “shoe” out of your ass.

Obama's Nuclear Strategy is apx. 4000 years old!

The Obamunites (aka Democrauts, Socialists, Commies, Liberal-ists, inter-National Socialists) want the destruction of Israel in retaliation for the annihilation of the Amalekites, Amorites, Canaanites, ect.. which occurred around 2000 BC when Moses was commanded by God to remove these barbaric savages from the land.

The Demo-Socialistic-Liberal-Commies we see today are the RE-INCARNATIONS of the Baal worshiping (god of Global Warming) Molech feeding (god of Abortion) child sacrificing barbarians of 1000's of years ago. If you look there is very little difference between the Pagan religions in the past and todays Paganistic Militant Cult of Death (aka Liberalism).

Of course we have newer technology and their sacred rituals like Child Sacrifice are a little different (they burnt the babies inside of Moloch and today Liberals burn the fetus inside a creamatorium) the end results are still the same. A dead burned up baby!

There is very little difference between them except in efficiency. The Obamunites 4000 years ago didn't even kill 3,000 babies per year and the Liberals today murder over 3,000 babies per day!

That is what the Obamunites want to do to the Israelites.
They want to feed them to their FIRE God Moloch

Thank you, Captain Obvious?

Specifically 1 or 2 W80 Mod 1 Thermonuclear Warheads out of 6
Perhaps Liz can answer for her dear father
Inquiring USN minds would like to know

Our military even has a term for losing a nuclear weapon…because they have on several occasions. It's called a Broken Arrow.

Holy Joe has made a career out of stabbing people in the back, after which he invariably twists the knife. So why, exactly, does he still have a powerful committee chairmanship?

That's screwier than Scientology.

Consummate shithead!

Why is this dog face on TV every Sunday? This is what passes for “moderate”?

We still haven't seen the evidence that Iran is developing a nuclear weapon, but dog face states it as a fact, and the “liberal” MSM repeats it as fact.

And instead of just blowing off a mountain-top somewhere, which would have surely brought Japan to the negotiating table, it hit a populated city dead center, and then, when Japan by then knew the game was up, hit yet another city.

Try taking your blood pressure – you seem to be in full over-reaction mode.

That's true, not all Israelis are assholes. In fact many are against the genocide in Gaza. But as always, it is the few that ruin it for everyone else and give them a horrible reputation (like cops, many are good but the ones that are bad make the whole lot of them appear to be criminal thugs, and there are many fine Kansans and Texans who believe in evolution and gay rights but you wouldn't know it by their states' reputations).

He's obviously been brainwashed by John Hagee.

Senator Lieberman,

As a Senator, you must know that significant new funding has been provided by this administration for the purpose of assuring a safe, secure, and reliable nuclear stockpile. As a former employee of the nuclear weapons complex, I think that the responsible thing would have been to acknowledge that.

As a Senator, Mr. Lieberman should be aware that the administration has requested significant new funding of the nuclear weapons complex for a safe, secure, and reliable nuclear stockpile.

As a former employee of the nuclear weapons complex, it is clear to me that Lieberman is playing politics with this issue rather than addressing a policy issue.

How many cities did the commies nuke?

You win the dumbest post of the week award.

I had a dream that I that Joe Lieberman was dragged behind a pickup truck and died a horrible painful death.

Of course that would be wrong.

The Nuclear Treaty is just more political positioning by our POLITICAL PRETENDER. Russia STILL DOESN'T HAVE AS MANY WEAPONS DEPLOYED AS IS ALLOWED in the new treaty and the US WILL BARELY HAVE TO CUT BACK, IF AT ALL.
NO DEFICIT MONEY SAVED HERE!!
ZERO EFFECT ON “GLOBAL SECURITY”!!
America is funding RUSSIA'S BIOLOGICAL WARFARE UNIT and PAYING THE RUSSIAN SCIENTISTS AND WORKERS to continue their RESEARCH in RUSSIA! Looking out after taxpayer dollars ??

As far as our PRESIDENTIAL PRETENDER'S position on IRAN'S NUCLEAR playground:
Obummer and Iran all read from the SAME KORAN, the words and the meaning doesn't change.
The only changes are in the RANGE, STYLE, and SPEED of the individual's JIHAD.
The DIRECTION AND GOAL are the SAME FOR ALL OF ISLAM—–ANNIHILATE THE WEST, and KILL , RAPE, ENSLAVE, TORTURE, MAIM, ALL non-believers in ISLAM.
So, obama is really NOT likely to challenge Iran at all. Allowing US troops to kill a few “expendable” POPPY GROWERS in Afghan and Iraq is just part of the JIHAD FACADE.

John Hagee yes butt he didn't get brainwashed ….well we don't call it that !

He hasn't even read it !

This missile defense business is way to expensive. Its far cheaper to maintain a nuke arsenal for its deterrence value. The only realistic scenario involving Iranian nuclear agression comes in the form of suitcase bombs for which the need for defense shield is obviated…what a waste. And if Iran really were a threat to us or our allies in europe (which it isn't, its all about israel), wouldn't 2/3 or less of our arsenal be sufficient to deter Iran?

Missile defense seems honorable and dignified but creates a classic geopolitical problem of balancing power. To simply throw up a missile defense shield creates a problem for the russians. If the west is “less vulnerable” to incoming missiles, then russia must increase its arsenal to re-establish its deterrence capacity (and it will be infinitely cheaper than creating its own shield). The result is a ratcheting up of arsenals on both sides on something that wastes our economy on something of little use, and continues the legacy of hipocracy as we preach non-proliferation.

Yes, those Democrats, Franklin Roosevlt and Harry Truman were evil war-criminals. I know that you would have been the first to volunteer to personally invade Japan.

By the way, was I typing too fast for you? What was it about the word “Russian” in “Russian Agression” that got you confused?

During the rectification of the Vuldrini, the traveler came as a large and moving Torg! Then, during the third reconciliation of the last of the McKetrick supplicants, they chose a new form for him: that of a giant Slor! Many Shuvs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Slor that day, I can tell you!

Remember this guy is “Judas Joe” Lieberman. He is a traitor in our midst. His loyalty is *not* for American but for his fellow Joos ! He votes for everything that will benefit the Joos and for nothing that will deter their Palestinian genocide.

Interesting tie of the US govt to the banking oligarchs…
I was just thinking that FDR knew that the nuke bomb was just reaching maturity at the time when the US was placing economic, lubricant and raw materials sanctions on Japan.

It has become apparent to me over time that the 2000 election thing was rigged from the get go…
If Gore was inaugurated then I think that he would have been taken down swiftly leaving us with Joe the traitor.
Either way (R/D) the military industrial complex would have been running the show.

I think you should buy a history book. “Russia” wasn’t a nation during the Cold War. And out of the two atomic weapons ever used in warfare in the entire history of the world, 100 percent were used by the United States. I’m not passing judgment on their use, I wasn’t there. But the fact that they were both used on civilian populations and by the United States is indisputable. We have zero room to dictate to others and certainly don’t hold the moral high ground.

This thread really exposes Liberal ethnic bigotry, besides, of course, the usual adolescent vugarity that is endemic to Lib-Think.

Roosevelt was dead when the decision was made to drop the bomb and Truman didn’t even know it existed until after Roosevelt died. George Marshall made the decision Truman wasn’t in a position to override Marshall who he later picked to be his Secretary of State.

Japan was already suing for peace. We didn’t need to drop the bomb.

My Father served in the Merchant Marine in the Pacific (torpedoed at Okinawa) my Stepfather after serving in Europe was sent to the Pacific to be part of the invasion of Japan.

STFU

you actually believe that crap about needing all the nukes for iran?

you actually believe all that crap that the missile defense system is all about iran?

russia makes a good point.

wake up. who cares if he's a jew. he's a paid asset of a foreign nuclear power that's a rogue state.

i say we need the nukes to nuke israel when they start WW3.

Lieberman, a.k.a. droopy dawg, is playing with himself.

His basic philosophy, “me like me take“, is tired, inane, and in decline.

Cant tale it away from Joe. He's a 200 percent American. A true Constitutionalist. He's not to be confused with that other Lieberman, whose first name is Avigdor and has taken credit for the Dubai 12 [wo]men murder.

More importantly Joe is more of an expert on nuclear matters than all those pseudo Americans who did most of the treaty study, writing and recommendations to the President that its in America's interest to sign it.

One must admit that the only two who have already judged the President as a snake oil salesman are Joe and Sarah who for some unknown reason to prove their love and loyalty to the USA always seem to wear pin lapels of not only the Stars and Stripes but also the flag of Israel. No question there of their true loyalty.

Lieberman will do whatever his real bosses at AIPAC tell him to do. “…and the world looks just the same….and history ain't changed….”

want to see pics of both Lieberman's hugging each other? BBC has them.

Joe is on Israel's payroll, not America's.

That's okay, Russia will end up massively MIRVing theirs to get past any defense system. which is the decoy, and which is the real one?

[...] Esta compañía de defensa de misiles es la forma de cara. Su mucho más barato de mantener un arsenal nuclear por su valor disuasivo. La única hipótesis realista participación de una agresión nuclear iraní llega en forma de bombas de maleta para que la necesidad de escudo de defensa son obviados. . . qué desperdicio. Y si Irán fuera realmente una amenaza para nosotros o nuestros aliados en Europa (que no lo es, todo es cuestión de Israel), no 2 / 3 o menos de nuestro arsenal sería suficiente para disuadir a Irán? Misiles de defensa parece honorable y digna sino que crea un problema clásico de equilibrio de poder geopolítico. Para lanzar simplemente un escudo de defensa antimisiles crea un problema para los rusos. Si Occidente es "menos vulnerable" a los misiles entrantes, entonces Rusia debe incrementar su arsenal para restablecer su capacidad de disuasión (y será infinitamente más barato que la creación de su propio escudo). El resultado es un trinquete de arsenales de ambos lados en algo que los desechos de nuestra economía en algo de poca utilidad, y continúa el legado de hipocracy como predicar la no proliferación. URL del artículo original http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0411/lieberman-hesitant-support-obama-nuclear-treaty/comment-page-2/#com... [...]

[...] During the rectification of the Vuldrini, the traveler came as a large and moving Torg! Then, during the third reconciliation of the last of the McKetrick supplicants, they chose a new form for him: that of a giant Slor! Many Shuvs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Slor that day, I can tell you! URL del artículo original http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0411/lieberman-hesitant-support-obama-nuclear-treaty/comment-page-2/#com... [...]

Joe Lieberman can not be trusted. He was a democrat, until we democrats voted him out of a primary here in CT. He got so mad, that he picked up his “toys” and went crying to the neighbors backyard.. enter the newly reformed Joe Lieberman who basically stuck his tongue out at the Dems while he was safely inside the Elephant cage… Oh yes, he SAYS he is an independent, but we all KNOW that is a load of crap. Joe Lieberman is a JOKE.

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