Home schooling.

What kind of stupid, asinine question is that?

private clubs in miami where i live have “lesbian night” on lesbian night straight guys are NOT allowed in the club unless accompanied by women. Do they have the right to discriminate ? absolutely it is a private club. just like any club down here the bouncers decide if you get in or not based on your look …. government must be kept out of private business and our private lives

N o – my theory is you’re a retard who can’t understand the English language. What I’m saying is – if you have a garage sale, you can’t forbid customers coming onto your shithole property based on the color of their skin.

If you don’t want the public on your property, then don’t open your property to the public. Once you open you property to the public, you have to obey the laws.

What are you talking about? White people, more than blacks, are on welfare and in public housing of some type. The whites are not accused of being made into children behind that. There are problems with welfare for sure, but other countries that have even more extensive safety nets than the USA and they do not have these issues, of people being sucked into some sort of subserviance due to these programs.
Why do you think that it just happens to black people? Perhaps if you broadened the scope of your study you could see that your point of view is a bit slanted toward the ‘Fox-Limbaugh-American Enterprise Insttitute (Read Rockefeller)’ propaganda matrix.

“…the difference between “private property” i.e., your home, and private property that is “open to the public” in order to do business. ”

“if you have a garage sale, you can’t forbid customers coming onto your shithole property based on the color of their skin.”

Considering these two contradictory statements, I’ll just assume that you don’t understand the difference between public and private property. Oh well.

Bro’ chill. Easy now. Whad’you run outta rock or something this morning?
Or better yet, just go to the nearest ‘teaparty’ you will find no racsists, like us, there. 10 years from now, with them in power, I know you will be excited to have your own ‘special’ drinking fountain and bathroom.

ay man did your liberal master’s call you up to counter me i know they keep uncle tom’s like you on hand just like al ‘FBI imformant’ sharpton.
and fuck rush limbaugh and all the republicans ok i am not into this democrat vs republican good cop bad cop shit ok. and since you are maybe a a good educated uncle tom google the helgalian dialectic ok and you will see how you are being played like the all day sucker you are

“i don’t think any sane business man would ban people from their business”

Ummmm.. google this for me: “segregation in america” and read any of the articles that come up. Then come back here and feel free to join in the discussion. I think it’ll be a very different experience for you,

I don’t see where he said anything racist or that his views expressed in the interview are racist. They are simply die hard libertarian, which philosophy holds that the people and not the government should work out those kinds of issues. I happen to disagree – I believe libertarianism is quite naive in a lot of areas and seems to willfully ignore historical evidence. We need a certain amount of protection to be provided by our government; countless past examples show what happens when rich and/or powerful people get to have their own way – they simply lose sight of caring about the consequences of their actions. Were a libertarian society established, it would not lead to any sort of Utopian ideal – it would quickly become a living nightmare for most of its citizens.

Sorry, one could perhaps presume you found your information at one of the RNC fonts as you espouse their talking points note for note. I am familiar with and have studied HEGEL and the HEGELIAN dialectic (I think it is that to which you refer) that is why I stated Rockefeller as being behind the AEI. I have serious doubts about your presumed response of Malcolm X, especially considering how his beliefs transmogrified in his last years/months. Which is why, after his beliefs became more inclusive, he was assassinated. Anyway, sorry, getting off topic. But maybe you should actually study something, not hear about it 2nd or 3rd hand before you feign knowledge.

I’m sure Johnnie would love to read about Hegel and dialectical materialism, but tell me how (besides spelling them correctly) what the hell your rant about antiquated Marxist analysis has to do with his point: namely, you have some sort of screed about the social safety net and he points out that whites, in fact, take up far more dole than blacks in America?

It’s seem that a lot of the people here who are bashing Rand Paul or Ron Paul are unable to grasp the concepts of their arguments. They present intelligent (or ‘esoteric’ as Rachel Maddow says) talking points about the rights of the individual versus the power of government. Rand Paul has unequivocally said that he supports the Civil Rights Act but argues the point of government involvement versus individual liberty. But to claim that he is a closet racist is absurd and simply proves you do not understand what he is saying. (And to those on here who decry Ron Paul as a Neocon/pro war politicians, it is the height of ignorance. Look at his speeches in Congress. Look at his voting record.)

Rand Paul certainly chose a poor example to give when discussing individual rights versus the power of government when citing the 1964 Civil Rights though. Although I really like the ideals of true libertarian government it is thoroughly impossible to achieve in the real world. It seems that a libertarian style government assumes that all people are honest, just and come from equal backgrounds and opportunities. But in reality we know that many people are thoroughly corrupt, dishonest, greedy and self-absorbed. So how can libertarian really work in the real world? There most be some government intervention and the rule of law.

I’ll wait for the name callers on this board to yell that I am some kind of conservative, racist neocon. (However, I voted for Cynthia McKinney of the Green Party for President in 2008 so explain that one.)

I agree. People are more tolerant and exposed to other races and cultures than ever before. I know for me being a white guy I certainly wouldn’t shop in any business that had any discriminatory policies against anyone. And all of the friends I know feel the same way. Any business owner that would be so ignorant as to ban blacks, whites, jews, muslins etc. would not be in business very long in this country.

The liberals remind me of the Mcarthy era or Bush era. Right now, racist is the new terrorist… and before that it was communists. More crap from the MSM… they are scared Rand will win and their ponzi scheme of an economy might actually get audited.

Question: If he was black and answered the same question, would you still call him a racist?

malikk and Azz sitting in a tree kissing.
Poster boys for the uneducated in America.

No, I am BLACK and I am not saying that. Racism has never left and is now out for everyone to see. For all these years we pretended that it was dormant. His idea of taking back the country is putting you back into chains. Hopefully you will wake from your dream soon.

Walt even if he watched the video he cant critically think about what he hears.
People like him are unreasonable and uninformed.
Nothing will change this.
Maybe we can educate the children of these uninformed sheep and change America for the better.
The North beat the Souths ass once. We can do it again.

Sort of yes. He would allow them (racists) to have free speech and all the other rights guranteed by the bill of rights and constitution. You might have racists in Rand Paul USA, but you forget, there are racist in Obama’s USA… and Bush’s USA… and Clinton’s USA… and so on and so on. Racists aren’t going to go away because people are ignorant and easily manipulated.

All he way saying is that the Federal Government is way out of control and needs to be scaled back to its consitutional foundations. Throwing the civil rights act into it is a moot point because that issue is over and done. If you remember, the constitution was amended… so Rand will follow the constitution and all of its amendments.

Old Atlantic and Malikk seperated…..ahm, I mean….. segregated at birth.
Ahahhaaaaaa! God DAMM I’m funny…..

Ok bye now. I can’t play no more, I gotta try and actually do some work here.

The two party system is the problem. The New World Order controls both and just flips them back and forth to continue their agenda.

Ever wonder why Obama is continuing 90% of Bush’s policies?

Rand – bless his intentionally obtuse heart – is refusing to recognize the difference between “private property” i.e., your home, and private property that is “open to the public” in order to do business. Once you open your private property to the public in order to obtain their $$$, you give up the right to discriminate against them for “impermissible” reasons, such as race, creed, color, etc.

Rand – bless his intentionally obtuse heart – is refusing to recognize the difference between “private property” i.e., your home, and private property that is “open to the public” in order to do business. Once you open your private property to the public in order to obtain their $$$, you give up the right to discriminate against them for “impermissible” reasons, such as race, creed, color, etc.

then it seems that it wouldn't be private property any longer if others could use the state apparatus to force you to comply with their mandates and force you do with your property as others see fit….sort of makes the whole concept of private property meaningless doesn't it?

Somebody needs to ask Mr. Rand Paul who he believes might be owed reparations from the era of American Slavery: Slaves or their owners?

Not really. When you're operating a service you are catering to the public. Let's take another example. If you own a restaurant, should you be allowed to refuse to abide by the health codes that are designed to keep bad food or disease from spreading? This is a different proposition from say, wanting to add a room to your establishment.

What a pathetic performance from Dr. Rand Paul. He simply refused to give a straight answer to a question. The 14th Amendment already banned state-sponsored discrimination. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was primarily directed to private conduct. If somehow he is more worried about infringing on the rights of a racist over the rights of others who are being discriminated than he doesn't believe that line, “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” Basically he was saying. in my opinion, he is against slavery but if that private owner wants to have slavery… it is his right.

And comparing humans to guns (a completely different Amendment) just goes to show his ignorance. Where did he learn that from?

you democrats will do any to keep black people on the democratic party plantation it wont this time you all know damn well he is not a racist

Rand Paul, Ron Paul, Rue Paul – they all dress up to look like something they're not. Rand waves the Teabaggers' flag, but their mantra is “less government (i.e., integration), less taxes (on the wealthy), less spending (except on war) – same old Republican Limbaugh Cheese, just ripened with more manure…

I think it’s revealing that Rand Paul was named after Ayn Rand. That reveals alot to me about Ron Paul’s true political leanings, which has no doubt been very influential in the development of Rand’s political views.

If the business interacts with the Public, then the federal goverment can and should have a say, since they, the federal government, theoretically, are acting on behalf of the Public.

nothing like a racist trying to bat out of his league. paul is a closeted klam member of the highest order.

his “justification” of his stance on the civil rights act was no only a thinly vailed racist attack, but he has absolutely no concept of what the terms “seperate but equal” mean, yet he goes around touting that same position.

He is a loathsome individual. all he is, is a more obvious verison of his crazy ass racist dad.

Rand supports allowing businesses to bar blacks and other minorities from entering their businesses because hey, it's a free market. Sounds like HE wants to keep people on the “plantation”.

is that all you fucking liberals see is racism
tired of you motherfuckers seeing a racist behind every damn tree, your racist cry is like crying wolf know one is paying attention to you anymore . and very its funny seeing all you white liberals crying racism we black folks say shut the FUCK UP.
yes i am a black man

that,s a fucking lie show me where you got that shit from

So child labor and sexual harassment are ok, eh?

Suppose, a black restaurant owner be forced to served a klansman, at gvt’s behest.

Intellectutal consistency and in practice is something to be desired in this circle.

Suppose the CRA 1964,65 were intended to end racism, did it? It makes you “feel” better like most bullshit moralistic arguments.

Repugnants set them up, Dems use them. Anyone think habeas corpus isn’t suspended under oBUSHma? How about, military commissions act, gvt assassination prog., just think genuises, the pres. like the dubya deludes he’s constitutionally allowed to label ANY American a terrorist and torture and lock him up indefinitely.

the minute any of you voted FOR oBUSHma, whom worked for CIA front company Business Int’l Corporation, as per REAL JOURNALIST John Pilger’s investigations, of all places at a Socialist Meet, who CONTINUES ALL dubya’s UnCONSTITUTIONAL atrocities, to this day, ALL of you lost any moral, ethical, or Constitutional ground.

You bitch and moan over principled position you cannot possibly fathom because you disprove, but are all too willing to support murderer in power.

Got Priorities? Got Nuance?

When will you people wake up to reality? Really? The Pauls are racists? Really, all you have is the Perez owned bitch writing for the NewRepublic(an) Even Kirchick is on RECORD stating EMPHATICALLY that Ron Paul has never said anything or written anything racist. So he owned a newsletter where people freely wrote in. News flash, if a contingent of StormFront moronfucks write on Raw boards daily with their propaganda for a year, does it make Raw racist.

A mark of a mature individual is one in which while the person may find other’s statements and actions deplorable and repugant, and abstains actively from associating themselves with those degenerates, tolerating them is NOT same as condoning them.

The idiot common denominator between the so-called Left and Right is their inability to extend intellectual consistency and logic toward anything that they disprove of.

Ask yourselves, you think First Amendment is there to protect accepted, fuzzy sweet agreeable speech, or obnoxious, loudmouths? If you actually understand Freedom principles in which this REPUBLIC, NOT a democracy was founded upon, this should be an easy one.

Unless you can stand to protect EXTREMES, you do not understand, nor believe, nor live a life of a freeman.

Sure, neoLiBs and neoCONs, you only want “freedom” for yourselves and those that you approve of.

WTF is the hypocrites, now?

Seriously, when any of you truly understand how the real world works, versus what gvt moron tax leeches tells, no PR’s to you as, or how a laws is written versus, how it is really carried out, then perhaps those of us who actually get it, will entertain you emo nonsense.

Yup, as long as something looks good and “feels” goood, it must be working.

Well, get ready America, the Freedome Movement, the Liberty Movement is here to stay. So keep decorating the prisoncells you were born into, as if that will stop making you a prisoner.

When will you people stop being sucked into this left vs. right false paradigm?

Really any dem or GOP policy actually deliver on ANY of their promises. The Pauls on the other hand have lived it, walked it, and in Dr. Ron Paul’s case, his voting record bears that out.

Other preempt, I love how you call names like paul-tards, as if blindly following dems, oBUSHma, or dubya makes you better, I mean really? Civil Rights Act that none of you actually read, studied, or quantitatively weighed in on its effect, and unintended consequences are gonna bemoan a man who is articualting his intellectual position?

Do you realize IF what Maddow wants is actually practiced, you cannot have “ladies night” all-girl club, all-gay party, all-gay parade, all-straight,etc. on and on?

Hell, SCOTUS has ruled on behalf of BoyScouts, hell, you can even force integrate NBA to have 50-50 representation at all times. where do you STOP?

YOU CANNOT LEGISLATE morality. Period. Sure as long as it’s marijuana, you are all for rights, and State’s Rights. I never ever used drugs in my entire life, except having my roomates exhaust fume seep into my room. But, I find it REPUGNANT that as a grown individual, I or you cannot decide for yourself what you can or cannot put into your body, or seek other ways of experiencing the world. Like it or not, LEGALLY speaking, the same “right” that you think gvt has, or granted, being able to dictate who can or cannot, who can buy or not buy, consume or not consume it all falls under the same Constitutional space: Bill of Rights, esp. 1st, and 2nd, CONgress’ fave “Commerce Clause,” be it regulating salt, or patronage.

Capice?

So really, for the last frakking time will you people ever go beyond L vs. R?

In light of the BankSter lunacy clearly on display all around us, you are all witnessing the last vestiges of a falling Empire. They steal until they can get no more. The Greeks and Icelanders, and Irish are up in arms, while you bitch about a non-issue.

In fact ANYtime MSM, or the establishment ATTACKS someone, it should be taken as a badge of honor. That’s how you know somone’s the real deal, if you cannot fathom the concept of nuance, or intellectual consistency.

It's the same old story, racists hiding behind arcane interpretations of the law like “states' rights,” as if all those neanderthals would have been spitting and cussing over tariffs or the enforcement of a federal drinking age. Apparently, Dr. Rand is just a slicker version of David Duke.

It's in the Maddow interview, my friend.

Looks like someone got up on the wrong side of the bed (and forgot to take their Lithium).

According to Paul, government has no business desegregating lunchcounters, but they have every right to ban abortions. Let's make governemen small enough to fit in your bedroom.

malikk, please refer to us white liberals as honkies or crackers. that way, the racist hiding behind the tree outside my house could come in and join me for a delicious latte, and we could have a frank discussion about race AND call each other names. thank you.

spoken like a true rue paul supoorter. LOL do you even know what “seperate but equal” means? let me paint a picture for you willful mouthbreather. If we do away with the civil rights bill of 1964, that means minorities can also kick out whites from their businesses. Now, since you are such a supporter of such racist bullshit, you should be just fine with that concept as well. It’s a complete wonder how the libertarians continue to support this “governement out of our lives” bullshit, when you drive on government built and supported roads, drink water that is cleaned via government regulations, use seat belts which are certified safe by gov’t regs, etc. Hiding behind the concept of less government to justify racism in the work place is very typical of the libs. However, the best part is: you supporters can’t even use a little critical thought here and see that this is a race issue from the get go. So you are perfectly okay with businesses denying minorities the right to eat at their establishement? please now give me your waffle like none answer. you people are pathetic excuses for human beings.

Well shucks Savantster buddy. Have ya’ll ever heard of the Civil Rights movement and such?

Seriously, I live in a midwest northern city so that’s not so prevalent here. Although unspoken racism is certainly alive and well (discrimination in the workplace or in a given area). You mention brutish and abusive behavior but that’s much different from someone saying “I don’t like the color of your skin, your ethnicity or religion so you can’t patronize my place of business”.

But you are certainly right. “Racism is about ignorance and intolerance and abuse. There’s nothing civilized about that.”

This world will never be civilized, or non-violent, without wars and wars for profit etc. It’s human nature and it’s bred in every culture that I know of. The way ignorant people try to feel superior to others is to pit one group against another. The stuff starts in grade school into high school cliques and then out into the world and the workplace.

Stupidity is a very human trait.

I hope you are being sarcastic.

This is the chief failing of Libertarianism (and radical Republicanism) – their view that private property trumps the greater good. Thus a landowner, anyone at all, would have the right to make money letting other people dump the most vile of toxic wastes on his land. He would have the right to let hunters cut down every last individual of an endangered species.

Basically, every single plot of ground owned by someone is it's own autonomous country. There would be no uniform laws covering the common good anywhere in the country, whether involving the environment, education, energy, public health safety (FDA), whatever. It is a recipe for total chaos. It's also very juvenile.

No wonder the tea partiers like it and him.

Any African American with an ounce of brains wouldn’t dignify the libertarian position on anything.

Do a little history on racism in this county, it is terrorism you stooge. Or don’t you know who Emmit Till was?

Yet another easy target libertarian.

It is obvious that radical gay rights activists want to expand the 60's civil rights laws into comprehensive condoning of homosexuality. As part of a rainbow coalition with liberal blacks, rejection of a new improved civil rights act that enables perversion will be touted as racism by leftists. Rachel is simply wanting to improve her status on the grave of MLK jr. 1964-1965 laws were passed by the GOP to help peolple of color, to enforce the 14th Admendment. The 14th says nothing about chosen sexual preferences.

Oh I see, you are one of those self loathing types.

Have fun with that.

spoken like true intellectual.

You make me sick with the vile shit that you spew. This whole forum of people are mind controlled freaks. You people can’t think on your own, none of you seem to have your own opinions, it’s just more of the SAME CRAP every goddamn time. It’s called RACE BAITING boys and girls and Maddow is a pro at it.

we black people are not your fucking children liberals we don't need you to standing up for us

…..Hmmm, the “eye doctor”. Ought to remove the “moats” in his eye before they move to his ass.

Of course there are racists, regardless of the administration. And there are first amendment protections that allow, among other things, neo-Nazi’s to march down the street . No problem there. However, it’s not healthy for society to extend that expression of racism to the sphere of public commerce. It is corrosive and degrading, in my opinion and the opinion of many others. You yourself may well hold the same opinion. All I’m saying is that Rand, and other libertarians cannot come to a commonsense, humane conclusion because they are so dogmatic.

And I also beg to differ that the Civil Rights Act is a moot point. It’s not enshrined in the Constitution. The amendments only disallow slavery and provide for suffrage. The rest of it is all based on interpretations of the Constitution, not explicit, unambiguous language. As such, a politician coming in and having as a platform the wholesale dismantling of over two centuries of jurisprudence and law making deserves this kind of scrutiny. Mind you, there is a lot that should be rethought, I’m not saying there isn’t. But basic Civil Rights isn’t one of them.

Pull the BS race card, only thing you guys have left. Neither Rand or Ron are racist, get a grip.

Question: Should a black restaurant owner be forced to serve KKK members?

Well malikk, you are a reminder that ignorance does not come in one color. I don't think you watched the video… because if you did, I don't know how you could defend Paul if you are a black man. I have a co-worker who was born in Texas but is a very ethnic looking Mexican. He happens to be a fool like you who listen to the wrong people. And he supported racial profiling in Arizona until he lived through it going through Arizona. People like Beck, Limbaugh, Palin, Savage, etc. has given rise to the racists.

Spoken like a true republican and I am a blackman also. Do you remember that it was the “Dixiecrats” who left the Democratic party because Johnson signed the Civil Rights Bill.
If he hadn't I doubt if you or I would be posting on this site. You really need to wake up.

I have worked for Republicans and Democrats and I will take a Dem over a Republican any day.

Maybe you should stop listening to Rush and Sean and try watching something other than Fox News!

Please tell what the Repubs have done for people of color, better yet, what have they done for the entire country…a recession, two wars, an enormous deficit and a big bulls eye on our backs.

“The liberals remind me of the Mcarthy era or Bush era. Right now, racist is the new terrorist…”

Kind of like right wing nuts consider liberals.

As far as I’m concerned, it’s more about what you value, property or people. Libertarians don’t value people, only property and profits.

we black folks sure do thank you master liberal you have been so nice to us black folk like building us those nice housing projects and food stamps and welfare we black slave sure do thank you nice liberals

By the way, I forgot to add that I am an Independent and yes, I do believe that any blackman/woman who is a Libertarian, tea bagger or Republican reminds me of the “Lawn Jockey” of the first order…there for show and that's all. There are no blacks that I have seen in Rand Paul's inner circle. When that happens, I will be interested in hearing from he/she on what the do and what is their authority within the Klan!

Should a black restaurant owner be forced to serve KKK members?

yes

Excellent: you say that liberals treat blacks like children; then you presume to speak for everyone of a particular hue.

More importanty, you never refuted the point made by Cartman, namely that Paul's very words, in the article that you presumably read and are commenting upon, are mush-mouthed code words for laissez faire racism:

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“How about desegregating lunch counters?” Maddow later asked.
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“Does the owner of the restaurant own his restaurant? Or does the government own his restaurant? These are important philosophical debates but not a very practical discussion.”[Paul]
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I am from Alabama, spent my entire career in civil rights in that state and in the flyover, and, I can tell you for a damned certainty, these are the exact same arguments used in Charlotte, Selma, Jackson, Omaha, St. Louis, Birmingham, etc…

Open your fucking eyes

Just like a black person to blame everyone else on their problems.
Malikk:
“we black folks sure do thank you master liberal you have been so nice to us black folk like building us those nice housing projects and food stamps and welfare we black slave’s sure do thank you nice liberals

with friends like you liberals black people don’t need any enemy’s
black unemployment is 50 percent thank’s liberals 3 out of every 4 young black men in jail or on probation we sure do thank you nice liberals why are you liberals so nice to black people what have we done to deserve all this generosity .

I don’t really feel like this, but it is just as racist as the crap you are posting

I don't think that Rand or Ron Paul are racist at all. I think that racism has just become the standard ammo to shoot down someone that you don't like.

Don't forget the Indians! If he really believe in property rights, how does he feel about returning land to Indian tribes which was taken by breaking treaties?

Property rights: the idea that a man is entitled to keep what he's stolen.

what is the black unemployment rate in all these cities

Paul is not saying anything different from what that pos Reagan said.

“If an individual wants to discriminate against Negroes or others in selling or renting his house, he has a right to do so.” – Ronald Reagan

You make me sick with the vile shit that you spew. You are a fucking idiot. Just go away.

Duh. Get a grip.

You’re a moron.
Someone’s opinon is not wrong. it is just different than yours.
That’s your opinion.
I have followed them also. And they ARE racist. That’s my opinion

buurrrp.

well, I seem to be in a minority that thinks that part of the high black emeployment has many roots, besides people and thinker like you, Rand Paul, Rush, Sean, Glen and the lot.

to paraphrase a Ghanaian proverb,”the breakdown of a nation, begins with the brekdown of the family”. My thought, to you Malik, is to tke a good look at the black family unit and tell me how successfully, it has been destroyed…let’s see, you have had Jim Crow Laws, the Rockfeller Drug Laws. the uneven application of the laws involving cocaine and crack, and the list goes on. One thing that I should mention is that those laws were put into law by conservatives, not liberals. So, once again I ask you, wat has the conservative Republican establishment, done for the people….NOTHING.

We could go on, but I think that you need to do some research to give a lot more credibility to your arguments.

I have been a technical recruiter for 25 years and what I have seen, in the black community, has distressed me for 25 years…arguement and finger pointing, without realising that when you point your finger that you have 3 fingers pointing back at you!

For instance, whay are there so few black engineers, i.e., hardware, software, release, DBA’s, etc. I see our kids good at basketball, football and baseball and terrible when it comes to getting an education that will be of mutal benefit of all!

Hold one there for a second. Ayn while an elitist for competency and creativity was not about discriminating against any one. In fact she staunchly defended the rights of women, minorities and all people.

Ummm, no. Not hardly.

Being a member of a hate group is not equivalent to being of a particular race.

Wow.

does the government own such and such restaurant? well, most likely NO they don't.

does the government OWN MY WOMB? ABSOLUTELY HELL NO. 'splain that mr paul

Fuck this anti-American asshole.

Eat shit, scum.

What I think is that YOU are full of shit.

I'm tired of you motherfuckers flapping your stupid yaps.

If you don't have anything intelligent to say, piss off.

I am not a dem, repub or libetarian…if I don’t like what I hear, you don’t get my vote. peole have a choice and the constant bitching about a two party system is getting old. I am not a member of that clique. I decided, a long time ago, that neither served my interest…and to be exact, I really can’t think of a political party that really offers what I think that they should. True some come close, but in the end, no cigar…maybe a cigarello!

why are you being a nice liberal to me

So to be clear, the correct response in this case would be: AHHHH RACIST!!! OMG WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE! (just making sure i'm doing this right :)

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness”

FYI it’s from the Declaration of Independence not the Constitution. No less relevant however.

These tea party “Don’t tread on me ” idiots are perfectly happy to be selectively opposed to those portions of civil society which they deem infringe on their perceived rights. As if they can claim the ground that they stand on and the medium that they use to vigorously defend their “rights” is not owned by all of us (the government) or, at a minimum, are supported by the taxes or oversight about which they object. “Govm’t keep your hands off my Social Security and my Medicaire!”

Nobody really cares whether or not you condone homosexuality. That's just Charlie thinking aloud. In reality, nobody even cares what you think. But that's the thing. Look at what you just admitted:

You can't stop thinking about homosexuality.

You can't stop thinking about other men's penises.

And in the post above, you're projecting your inability to control your own thoughts on people you don't even know. You've actually convinced yourself that homosexuals are somehow controlling your mind.

No, Charlie, only you can control your own thoughts.

I know you're not doing in on purpose, but I thought it would be helpful to let you know how your mind works.

Milikk..My family has been in the USA since 1750. We fought in six wars (WW1&2,Korea,Spanish American War, Civil War, War of 1812, kicked out of the military by George Washington in 1775), In that time we have faced slavery, Plessy v. Fergerson, denied voting rights and your blaming democrats?
Maybe you should think before you type!!

So according to your theory if I have a garage sell, my house becomes State property from that point onward?

We need to start rounding up these people who play the race card and send them to German showers. That will stop that racist crap in its tracks.

I was making reference to the 50s – 70s. And, if you have intellectual curiosity, I suggest you go to factfinder by the U.S. Census, the Dept of Labor, and the respective states' economic development office. I'm doing your homework for you.

Bingo – well said. And apparently impossible for Rand and Libertarians to understand. “intentionally obtuse” perfect, like when Rand plays to people’s fears of Chavez and Morales. Morales is one of the good guys, but you can’t tell that to these people. Not even after decades of reich-wing lead death and destruction in central and south america.

Lets see if his belief in business owners' rights extend to opening up strip clubs and porn shops next to churches and schools.

How many of his supporters are aware of what Ayn had to say about their big sky-god Jeebus? Not many, I’ll bet…

How many of his supporters are aware of what Ayn had to say about their big sky-god Jeebus? Not many, I’ll bet…

I find him disgusting wrapped in a nice package.

He wants to destroy Social Security.

As a Baby Boomer his message to me is: Drop Dead!

Are KY voters racist and rich?

I just can't believe that millions of Baby Boomers would go along with this.

They do nothing for my overall silhouette (Lairy Jon calls me Pendulum Legs when I wear them, “because of the dangling”). But heavens, they do great work in the field of keeping my arse and thighs in some kind of check! They’re meant to adjust your posture and unbalance you, so that you work various muscles harder in the interest of keeping upright. Two years into my ownership of them, I can confirm: they do the job. They sculpt, they tone, they lift and separate. What joy.
http://www.mbtshoesale.net/

I agree, Maddow clearly wants to make a racial issue out of some very valid arguments – focusing on one unlikely scenario. I wouldn't worry so much about segregated businesses pooling together and firebombing the desegregated business. An eatery that refused to serve blacks or gays or hispanics would be a target these days. This interview and the majority of it's commentators are frothing at the mouth with the opportunity to distract everyone from the very real progress he advocates in the area of civil rights. One idealistic Senator from Kentucky certainly wouldn't be able to strike down the Civil Rights Act – nor should he. There are a hundred more pressing issues to take up to preserve our republic and our bill of rights – some of which include the amendments made to the Civil Rights Act in the form of hate crime laws. And I'm sure even these are third and fourth fiddle to the more dramatic threats we face today from the recent Reconciliation Act, Military Commissions Act, Patriot Act, and TARP. These pieces of crud are wildly unpopular and effect everyone of all colors and persuasions. That's why it's so important that we don't allow ourselves to be divided into our own little sub-groups and pitted against one another. I think most of us can agree that we should all have equal rights and recourse to justice. We have to have at least a couple Senators that actually vote with the constitution. Right now this body ratifies everything with huge majority. Congratulations on your primary victory Rand, I hope that Michigan votes it's criminals out.

but he's also in favour of private business owners to ban whites as well, if thats what they want to do, it's their right to be mean imbeciles if they want to be, thats the price of living in a free country.

I have to say, i don't think any sane business man would ban people from their business', and if they did they likely wouldn't last very long.

“their mantra” ? … Ron Paul is in favour of spending on the wars ? . He's probably one of the most antiwar politicians in US history . Ron Paul is also for less taxes on everyone, not just the wealthy.

Oh, that is very wrong. It’s part of the insane libertarian mind-set that claims there is no need to prosecute or deal with fraud, as ‘the market’ will just take care of it. Check out this photo of the nice white people. This is what will happen if we go this route. We can and will devolve to these days in at least some areas:
http://www.commondreams.org/further/2010/05/20

Oh, that is very wrong. It’s part of the insane libertarian mind-set that claims there is no need to prosecute or deal with fraud, as ‘the market’ will just take care of it. Check out this photo of the nice white people. This is what will happen if we go this route. We can and will devolve to these days in at least some areas:
http://www.commondreams.org/further/2010/05/20

He's also for letting polluters dump on anybody they want to.

The 1964 unCivil Rights Act repealed Civil Rights for Whites that were set down in the Founding Stock American's Bill of Rights. Time to restore the Bill of Rights to Whites. Repeal the 1964 unCivil Rights Act. Restore freedom of association and freedom from ethnic cleansing by non-whites in schools, workplaces and neighborhoods.

Non-white immigration destroyed Social Security.

To Rand Paul, private property trumps personal rights in every case. We call people like that sociopaths.

I would definitely support an eastery restricted to whites.

My impression is that libertarians like Paul will argue themselves into a pretzel to defend their free market position. I don't know too much about his specific history, but I think it's plausible that in his case he's not arguing from a racist position but his dogma about private property leads him to condone segregation in a 'private' context, even in an establishment that is supposedly 'open to the public'. He is so fixated on his strict private rights trump all other positions that he is driven to defend the indefensible. In the end, if this view were allowed to prevail we would end up with racist policies, even though the base argument isn't inherently racist. So, Paul may or may not be a racist in his own thoughts, but the outcome of a Paul world would be to allow room for racism.

I don't believe for a second that you are actually black. You're just a scum-sucking troll come here to cause trouble.

I have to say I am with the main stream liberals on this one and I think Rand is wrong. Yes the institutional racism would be banded with his version of the Civil Rights Act but then racists can just have their business exclude people from their private schools, restaurants and so on. Making the this Civil Rights Act less effective in making racism an unacceptable behavior. I think it was intended to be more then what Rand is saying it was meant to change society it self not just the government and it was successful since racists are a minority now. However i don't think he's being racist i think he is just wrong and his opinion is wrong since it's looking at it very narrowly. He does bring up good points but those are minor concerns comparing to fighting discrimination and can be dealt with separately.

you want my home address

i know you liberals are not accustomed to black people talking like me i know you are accustomed to uncle tom's yesir masser step & fetch it types sorry to blow your mind i am a free black man i am not on your plantation any more you good liberal you

As long as they're polite and not in costume. A restaurant owner has the right to bar cusomters based on attire. Some restaurants require ties, for example. Many have signs like: No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service

Libertarians often have difficulties explaining their views of freedom. In an ideal world where everyone understands that ultimate freedom also means also allowing your neighbor the same freedoms and having respect for all human beings then the Civil Rights Act would not be necessary. Everyone would understand that blacks, whites, hispanics, and all other groups have the right to do anything they want as long as they don't step on the rights of others. That's the Libertarian ideal. However, today there are still too many people who think that only they deserve freedom and often at the expense of another person's freedoms.

The vague notion of “common good” is complete and utter bullshit. It’s typically trotted out as an excuse to oppress individuals to the benefit of an influential minorities or the majority.

The vague notion of “common good” is complete and utter bullshit. It’s typically trotted out as an excuse to oppress individuals to the benefit of an influential minorities or the majority.

You’re racist.

You’re racist.

I don't usually use language like this, but regarding Rand Paul blaming Maddow for his pathetic (and rambling, filibustering, evasive diatribes and constant interrruption of the host) performance?

What an amazing whiny-assed titty baby.

like any debate in america today all you leftist idiots and conservative morons want to share your opinion without knowing the facts: title 2 of the civil rights act (the only provision pertaining to stores, etc / private business but excluding private groups without defining 'private') is used to disallow owners of businesses to refuse to serve patrons based on race, gender, religion, etc.
I am sure we can ALL agree on the premise and INTENTION of the law, but good intentions and liberal interpretations of laws lead to oppression and tyranny. look how the commerce clause is abused by the fed gov today to justify almost anything to tax & regulate economic activity. or another example could be the intentions of the war on drugs which has lead to the cartels of mexico or almost any 'good intentioned' law/war/policy that has lead to the fiscal ruin and moral bankruptcy of the federal government while destroying the lives of countless innocents in its wake.
Paul's point was, and he said it plain as day: “in a free society you have to tolerate opinions, views, speech, etc that you disagree with so long as they do not harm others rights”. You either want to live in a free society where governments only view you as an individual with god given rights, or not. if you think governments can tell people and force them to operate in a particular way then you do not value freedom and want an authoritarian society and be dictated to about how to live your life. the sheep metaphor applies well.
despite the civil rights act there are religious groups and other organizations that receive tax exemptions and federal funding while limiting group membership based on the groups perception of an individual belonging to a particular group. it was debated in the SC this year.
Paul's point was he would have worked to rephrase title 2 to not give the government the impression and power it took to dictate practices/behaviors to private businesses. the 2nd amendment analogy is 100% accurate. if a restaurant is considered public by leftist interpretations and the owner cannot refuse service to people of his / her choosing, then if a state has an open carry or concealed carry law, the owner cannot refuse service to people who exercise their right to self defense while in the restaurant, or they cannot ban someone who wears clothing displaying a message that the restaurant owner disagrees with.
the idiots claiming paul is a racist are just slinging mud and are clearly not capable of comprehending the logical argument Paul lays out. you are only displaying your shallow thought, which I am sure pleases the good intentioned government education system which graduates kids that cannot read or write. go back to sleep, the grownups are trying to repeal this oppressive welfare / warfare state that you blindly support while it enslaves and impoverishes you

A property owner should be able to discriminate about with whom they do business. We make choices every day regarding which businesses we patron as consumers (give money to), so why shouldn’t a business owner be able to decide who they accept money from?

I don’t see what is so hard to understand about this. If the government can tell a dry cleaner they must do business with everyone, can the government also insist that I allow anyone into my home? What’s the difference between the two?

A property owner should be able to discriminate about with whom they do business. We make choices every day regarding which businesses we patron as consumers (give money to), so why shouldn’t a business owner be able to decide who they accept money from?

I don’t see what is so hard to understand about this. If the government can tell a dry cleaner they must do business with everyone, can the government also insist that I allow anyone into my home? What’s the difference between the two?

Guess it was ok to kill my roommate, Sammie Younge! He only used a “White” restroom! Hell. The US Navy should have not let him serve to “protect” our rights!

I was willing to give the Pauls the benifit of the doubt, but Paul's stand on the Civil Rights Act, and his defense, proves that he is a racist, or at least more than willing to pander to them for political purposes.

WHARRRRBARGL!

He's for a national sales tax which would represent a tax increase on the majoroty of Americans.

he wasn’t even named after ayn rand, thats a myth.

he wasn’t even named after ayn rand, thats a myth.

Rand Paul's problem is relying on mere “ownership” to decide a complex social issue.

Fine, he agrees that public facilities must never discriminate. But he thinks owners of all private facilities can.

The trouble is, plenty of private facilities are open to the public. Some are needed by the entire public. The current law draws a line at places of “public accommodation.” Rand Paul thinks private ownership should trump, apparently even if the entire public depends on the private facility.

The current law works. A four-person knitting club is very private. But a country club with golf course and 5-star restaurant that makes the town famous should be open to the entire public, even if it's privately owned.

Because we tried this before and it all ended in riots and the civil rights movement you clod! ;)

Because we tried this before and it all ended in riots and the civil rights movement you clod! ;)

Douchebag….what a tool!

Indeed, Ayn was a staunch atheist, which I personally have no problem with. It’s a number of elements of her philosophy of Objectivism that lead to the “Objectivist Movement” that I have a problem with, and the people that her philosophy has influenced is revealing. To wit:”The political figures who cite Rand as an influence are most often conservative or libertarian, often members of the United States Republican Party. U.S. Congressmen Bob Barr, Ron Paul, and Paul Ryan have acknowledged her influence on their lives, as has Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States Clarence Thomas. Former U.S. President Ronald Reagan described himself as an “admirer” of Rand in private correspondence in the 1960s…”…Conservative talk show hosts, such as Glenn Beck, Neal Boortz and Rush Limbaugh recommended the novel to their audiences, and opinion articles compared real-world events with the plot of the novel. Signs mentioning Rand and her fictional hero John Galt appeared at Tea Party protests. During this period there was also increased criticism of her ideas, especially from the left, with critics blaming her support of selfishness and free markets for the economic crisis, particularly through her influence on Alan Greenspan.”http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objectivist_movementIt is interesting to note that a six-foot floral arrangement in the shape of a dollar sign was placed near her casket after her death.

Indeed, Ayn was a staunch atheist, which I personally have no problem with. It’s a number of elements of her philosophy of Objectivism that lead to the “Objectivist Movement” that I have a problem with, and the people that her philosophy has influenced is revealing. To wit:”The political figures who cite Rand as an influence are most often conservative or libertarian, often members of the United States Republican Party. U.S. Congressmen Bob Barr, Ron Paul, and Paul Ryan have acknowledged her influence on their lives, as has Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States Clarence Thomas. Former U.S. President Ronald Reagan described himself as an “admirer” of Rand in private correspondence in the 1960s…”…Conservative talk show hosts, such as Glenn Beck, Neal Boortz and Rush Limbaugh recommended the novel to their audiences, and opinion articles compared real-world events with the plot of the novel. Signs mentioning Rand and her fictional hero John Galt appeared at Tea Party protests. During this period there was also increased criticism of her ideas, especially from the left, with critics blaming her support of selfishness and free markets for the economic crisis, particularly through her influence on Alan Greenspan.”http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objectivist_movementIt is interesting to note that a six-foot floral arrangement in the shape of a dollar sign was placed near her casket after her death.

I guess in “Loony” he means somebody who asks him a tough question and then doesn't allow him to weasel out of answering it. Bravo Rachel Maddow.

That makes even less sense than normal. Is your medication in need of adjusting?

“You aren’t doing business in your “home”, you live there….I seriously doubt a “garage sale” counts as “open to the public” in a strict sense since you’re also not charging SALES TAX on things you sell..”Huh? So if a garage sale is not “open to the public” who’s it open to? (and btw a sales tax doesn’t determine who or what is or isn’t a business)”Nothing new has been created, garage sales aren’t business.”Since when does something have to be “created” in order for an institution to be defined as a business? Fedex doesn’t necessarily create anything. Are they then, according to you, not a business?

“You aren’t doing business in your “home”, you live there….I seriously doubt a “garage sale” counts as “open to the public” in a strict sense since you’re also not charging SALES TAX on things you sell..”Huh? So if a garage sale is not “open to the public” who’s it open to? (and btw a sales tax doesn’t determine who or what is or isn’t a business)”Nothing new has been created, garage sales aren’t business.”Since when does something have to be “created” in order for an institution to be defined as a business? Fedex doesn’t necessarily create anything. Are they then, according to you, not a business?

DIDN'T I TELL YOU TO STOP SUCKING ON THOSE LEAD FILLED LOLLIPOPS

I just watched this thing….Dude, answer the fucking question, say what you feel. If you think a dude has a right to not let somebody (black folks) in his business just say so. Have some nuts pal. Typical politician. The only fuggin' guy who will say what the fuck he means is Kucinich.

My comment made no assertion that Ayn Rand was a racist or a bigot. I just stated that it was revealing that Rand Paul was named after Ayn Rand. The philosophy of “Objectivism” that she created and which lead to the “Objectivist Movement” had some elements that I can agree with. However, I found that overall, I disagree with her more than I agree. I also believe that in light of many of the policies of the past 30 years or so that has lead us to where we are today, has discredited much of her objectivist philosophy. “…Rand opposed racism, and any legal application of racism, and she considered affirmative action to be an example of legal racism…Objectivists have opposed the environmentalist movement as being hostile to technology and, therefore, to humanity itself. Objectivists have also opposed a number of government activities commonly supported by both liberals and conservatives, including antitrust laws, public education, and child labor laws.”http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objectivism_(Ayn_Rand)And whether it was Ayn Rand’s intent or not, I believe it was her objectivist philosophy that lead to the concept of “greed is good.”

My comment made no assertion that Ayn Rand was a racist or a bigot. I just stated that it was revealing that Rand Paul was named after Ayn Rand. The philosophy of “Objectivism” that she created and which lead to the “Objectivist Movement” had some elements that I can agree with. However, I found that overall, I disagree with her more than I agree. I also believe that in light of many of the policies of the past 30 years or so that has lead us to where we are today, has discredited much of her objectivist philosophy. “…Rand opposed racism, and any legal application of racism, and she considered affirmative action to be an example of legal racism…Objectivists have opposed the environmentalist movement as being hostile to technology and, therefore, to humanity itself. Objectivists have also opposed a number of government activities commonly supported by both liberals and conservatives, including antitrust laws, public education, and child labor laws.”http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objectivism_(Ayn_Rand)And whether it was Ayn Rand’s intent or not, I believe it was her objectivist philosophy that lead to the concept of “greed is good.”

Businesses isolate themselves by excluding groups too. Walmart could
never survive such a stupid immoral policy – the outcry and boycott
would be terrifix.

Businesses isolate themselves by excluding groups too. Walmart could
never survive such a stupid immoral policy – the outcry and boycott
would be terrifix.

I guess Mr. Libertarian ain't so libertarian any more is he? He sure is running fast from those positions.

Pregnant women aren't businessmen. So you can regulate them all you want. :)

Well, according to this Newsweek article he was:

“Paul, named for libertarian radical writer Ayn Rand, favors shutting down the IRS, the Fed, the American military presence overseas, the Department of Education, and much of the rest of the federal government.”

http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/thegaggle/archive/2010/05/18/rand-paul-wins-kentucky-sen-gop-primary-now-democrats-will-want-to-make-him-the-issue.aspx

Well, according to this Newsweek article he was:

“Paul, named for libertarian radical writer Ayn Rand, favors shutting down the IRS, the Fed, the American military presence overseas, the Department of Education, and much of the rest of the federal government.”

http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/thegaggle/archive/2010/05/18/rand-paul-wins-kentucky-sen-gop-primary-now-democrats-will-want-to-make-him-the-issue.aspx

Here is Rand Paul in his own words: “If I had been in the US Senate I would have stopped them and said no more, we will have a vote. We will declare war with Afghanistan. We will declare war with Iraq. I would have voted for a declaration of war with Afghanistan but I would have voted against a declaration of war with Iraq. But I would have made them vote. And that's the problem, they no longer pay attention to the rules.” http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?st…

Youre a moron. Ron and Rand are not racist. The media is trying to portray them as such so idiots like you will keep parrotting “He's a racist,” squak, “He's a racist.” squak.

I have follwed Ron Paul fro many years and he and his family are strict libertarians. All Rand was trying to say is that the federal government shouldnt be able to tell private business what to do.

Wow you told us….My head is swimming.
But nobody said he was a rascist, to me it's obvious he isn't, although rascists and Malikk love that he (until about an our ago anyway) shares these views about 'liberating' black folks from those horrible progressive shackles of desgregation.
Yeah, wow, you must be bummed that your boy Rand here is now running from his libertarian views faster than Malikk to his 'coloreds only' bathroom after a well needed six pack.

prob. w/both those paul clowns is they are strict libertarians…and very fem-sissy-like.

prob. w/both those paul clowns is they are strict libertarians…and very fem-sissy-like.

really, is it OK for the US Government to insist that food inspectors come in and check the food? You:—yes of course.

see thats the prob. with jack-asses like yourself—ya just don’t think things through, your idioticness is always all full of holes…and contradickheadsions.

really, is it OK for the US Government to insist that food inspectors come in and check the food? You:—yes of course.

see thats the prob. with jack-asses like yourself—ya just don’t think things through, your idioticness is always all full of holes…and contradickheadsions.

Human and natural rights can’t be regulated.

Human and natural rights can’t be regulated.

Why shouldn’t a business owner? We’ve been there. It was called Jim Crow. We’ve moved on. Everyone seems happy about it except people with flawed ideals.

Why shouldn’t a business owner? We’ve been there. It was called Jim Crow. We’ve moved on. Everyone seems happy about it except people with flawed ideals.

Exactly, and under their logic, they could proclaim murder to be legal in their little fiefdom and as long as there wasn’t a noise complaint by the ‘country’ next door, all would be well.

I think it’s interesting watching the Teabaggers take the teabag out of their mouth long enough to utter “government out of everything” (my personal favorite was seeing a sign at a Teabag rally that said “Government out of my Medicare!”) yet these same people are complaining because Barack Obama isn’t donning a flight suit, err, I mean SCUBA outfit and some sort of high pressure-proof transport to the OIL Volcano at the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico.

Exactly, and under their logic, they could proclaim murder to be legal in their little fiefdom and as long as there wasn’t a noise complaint by the ‘country’ next door, all would be well.

I think it’s interesting watching the Teabaggers take the teabag out of their mouth long enough to utter “government out of everything” (my personal favorite was seeing a sign at a Teabag rally that said “Government out of my Medicare!”) yet these same people are complaining because Barack Obama isn’t donning a flight suit, err, I mean SCUBA outfit and some sort of high pressure-proof transport to the OIL Volcano at the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico.

Yep,
All the Ron Paul & Idiot Kid have are wedge issues like Race.

A restaurant owner has the right to refuse service to disruptive people. That’s not the issue here.

A restaurant owner has the right to refuse service to disruptive people. That’s not the issue here.

The Pauls racist? Probably not. But it is one of the flaws of absolutist Libertarian thinking. The government has plenty of corruptions and bad sides (I’m no Democrat) but it has done a lot of good and necessary things too. I don’t see the point in going backwards.

The Pauls racist? Probably not. But it is one of the flaws of absolutist Libertarian thinking. The government has plenty of corruptions and bad sides (I’m no Democrat) but it has done a lot of good and necessary things too. I don’t see the point in going backwards.

So NOW you complain about King George?Let’s see, you’re playing the “I-can-connect-anything-to-anything” game.Check.

I can play it too:

Right now, people like you sling around ‘liberal’ like it’s some kind of put-down. You use it as a pejorative. You want to point the finger at liberals for the problems you and your ilk have caused. Essentially, you demand that you get to eat the cake and be allowed to put a barbed-wire fence around the crumbs.The only problem I see with myself and fellow liberals is we forgive and often believe that everyone can turn around and be a better person. I give it to you folks on the right, you’ve definitely taken the latter from me. And the former isn’t too far from being lost. Hence our (rightful) anger and tone.

Answer (to your question): yes!

So NOW you complain about King George?Let’s see, you’re playing the “I-can-connect-anything-to-anything” game.Check.

I can play it too:

Right now, people like you sling around ‘liberal’ like it’s some kind of put-down. You use it as a pejorative. You want to point the finger at liberals for the problems you and your ilk have caused. Essentially, you demand that you get to eat the cake and be allowed to put a barbed-wire fence around the crumbs.The only problem I see with myself and fellow liberals is we forgive and often believe that everyone can turn around and be a better person. I give it to you folks on the right, you’ve definitely taken the latter from me. And the former isn’t too far from being lost. Hence our (rightful) anger and tone.

Answer (to your question): yes!

Do you have to keep snow and ice off your side walk so people won’t fall or do you tell them to get a shovel and start plowing? Can you hook up electrical wires and plumbing any way you want “at your house?” You are a “meaningless” sort that needs to be in the army all your life. Here is who was rooting for “ayn rand paul:”http://barefootandprogressive.blogspot.com/2010…

Do you have to keep snow and ice off your side walk so people won’t fall or do you tell them to get a shovel and start plowing? Can you hook up electrical wires and plumbing any way you want “at your house?” You are a “meaningless” sort that needs to be in the army all your life. Here is who was rooting for “ayn rand paul:”http://barefootandprogressive.blogspot.com/2010…

Speaking of self-loathing: I have a friend who manages a homeless shelter and he tells me how often some of the people who come into his shelter are listening to Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage rail against the very services they are taking advantage-of. He was telling me about last week there were some guys watching a baseball game on TV in the common room and some ‘extremely inebriated’ guy had commandeered the remote controller and switched it to Glenn Beck. When my friend was trying to deal with the situation, the drunk guy threw the remote against the wall (shattering it) and yelled ‘how do you like THAT you government motherfuckers?’

(my friend works at an NGO which gets no federal funds).

Speaking of self-loathing: I have a friend who manages a homeless shelter and he tells me how often some of the people who come into his shelter are listening to Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage rail against the very services they are taking advantage-of. He was telling me about last week there were some guys watching a baseball game on TV in the common room and some ‘extremely inebriated’ guy had commandeered the remote controller and switched it to Glenn Beck. When my friend was trying to deal with the situation, the drunk guy threw the remote against the wall (shattering it) and yelled ‘how do you like THAT you government motherfuckers?’

(my friend works at an NGO which gets no federal funds).

They need to make “handrails” that your idiotic mind can grab unto so it doesn’t fall down the sewer pipe.

They need to make “handrails” that your idiotic mind can grab unto so it doesn’t fall down the sewer pipe.

Classic sneak attack. Start by saying private companies get to do whatever they want.
Then outsource government functions to private contractors (like Halliburton and Blackwater).

Private companies get our tax money WITHOUT needing to follow the Constitution!

See? racism and the 14th Amendment can play nice together after all.

It's not that he's an idiot, it's the looney left.

“I said it but I didn't say it and I'll say it again but I won't and if you quote me it'll be out of context.”

I saw the interview and kudos to Maddow. Shame on “Bland” Paul. It was obvious that Bland was being evasive and had been coached to avoid answering the question directly. However, in his equivocation, it was clear that Paul's Libertarian bufoonery is the issue here, not racism. And that is what Maddow was calling him out on. For Bland to now say that anyone is accusing him of racism is disingenuous at best. Clearly Bland does not believe that the government has the right to use of the Commerce Clause in the US constitution to apply the bill of rights as against purely private interests. But that issue was resolved by numeous US Supreme Court cases going back many decades.

In mischaracterizing the issue that Maddow was asking about, it is clear that Bland Paul anticipated the question and developed a two pronged strategy: a) try to evade the issue and maybe Maddow will give up on it; b) if she persists, then say this is another example of the “loony left” playing gotcha about race.

I don't understand why Bland Paul isn't just as honest about it as his father would be and just say, “I think we should find some activist judges like Roberts, Allito, Scalia and Thomas, appoint them to the Supreme Court and overturn years of judicial precedent to protect private interests against the US constitution even when they are clearly engaged in interestate commerce.” Then, the voters can decide whether they like the policy.

But, using the approach he chose on and after the Maddow show, the voters can decide whether or not they like his character as well.

Fuck this. Just go to MalWart, slip on a grape, sue and live in a gated community and tell people to fuck off.

Fuck this. Just go to MalWart, slip on a grape, sue and live in a gated community and tell people to fuck off.

…malikk, one more time and we are going to wash your mouth out with gulf water.

…malikk, one more time and we are going to wash your mouth out with gulf water.

Hey, bro, happy be-lated Malcolm X day.

Hey, bro, happy be-lated Malcolm X day.

His dad wanted a daughter, but got him.

His dad wanted a daughter, but got him.

Her family was from the “elite” class. Very selfish.

Her family was from the “elite” class. Very selfish.

I don't see why people are taking his comments out of proportion. He said that he supports the Civil Rights Act. He doesn't support discrimination and he even wants discrimination to be ended (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/senate/…), but, I would like for him to take back his comment about how he disagreed with the legislation's intent about stripping the Jim Crow laws. I see that he did at the time… well now it seems like he is more tolerant of other races… but he just disagrees with the government's role in doing something about it. But he isn't crazy enough to change it or anything.

Errr, look to see who is backing him:

http://barefootandprogressive.blogspot.com/2010/05/stormfrontorg-was-rooting-for-rand-paul.html

Errr, look to see who is backing him:

http://barefootandprogressive.blogspot.com/2010/05/stormfrontorg-was-rooting-for-rand-paul.html

you are hurting my feelings not

you are hurting my feelings not

“…I don’t see what is so hard to understand about this”
You are a hoot, thrasher. It seems “hard” for you to grasp the distinction between
“no shirt, no shoes, no service” and
“no blacks or Mexicans allowed”.
Don’t feel too bad: Baby Paul doesn’t get it either
By the way, who names their kid after such an insipid writer?

“…I don’t see what is so hard to understand about this”
You are a hoot, thrasher. It seems “hard” for you to grasp the distinction between
“no shirt, no shoes, no service” and
“no blacks or Mexicans allowed”.
Don’t feel too bad: Baby Paul doesn’t get it either
By the way, who names their kid after such an insipid writer?

yes i know may 19 1925

yes i know may 19 1925

Then I ask, why do you support the people that are against your own interests?I saw this the other day:http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/17/whi…Then I see who supports “ayn-rand” paul:http://barefootandprogressive.blogspot.com/2010…I see this in oregon:http://www.kgw.com/news/Drug-bust-at-Salem-apar…And this is where the drug money goes:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_KindredYou, my friend, are hanging with danger.

Then I ask, why do you support the people that are against your own interests?I saw this the other day:http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/17/whi…Then I see who supports “ayn-rand” paul:http://barefootandprogressive.blogspot.com/2010…I see this in oregon:http://www.kgw.com/news/Drug-bust-at-Salem-apar…And this is where the drug money goes:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_KindredYou, my friend, are hanging with danger.

Wow, THAT’S the dumbest thing you’ve said yet.
Guess we should just shred the regulatory document known as the Bill of Rights to suit the Paultards and their ilk

Wow, THAT’S the dumbest thing you’ve said yet.
Guess we should just shred the regulatory document known as the Bill of Rights to suit the Paultards and their ilk

bland paul is a racist. he can slice and dice it all he wants, but he's still a racist.

Have you read or heard what Dick Gregory has to say about Malcolm’s death? He has the autopsy report. The bullets came from “above.”

If you get a chance listen to Mark Thompson on Sirius 146 Left.

Have you read or heard what Dick Gregory has to say about Malcolm’s death? He has the autopsy report. The bullets came from “above.”

If you get a chance listen to Mark Thompson on Sirius 146 Left.

stop crying wolf not everything is about race asshole’s come in all races

stop crying wolf not everything is about race asshole’s come in all races

75 percent of ny state prison population come’s from nyc i rest my case

75 percent of ny state prison population come’s from nyc i rest my case

Oh, and this whole bruhaha is swell, cosidering the whole Am.w.Disabilities Act was brought up by the LEAST “progessive” Center for American Progress' ThinkProgress blog.

These MoFo ARE the Warmongers. Sure, they only want AfPak invasion for “humanitarian” reasons. An occupation is an occupation, no matter who does it, be it “nation-building” or otherwise. As if humanitarian missions don't turn into armed conflicts, if the native tribal warfare and freedomfighters and insurgents alike are funded by us, and our military are attacked and defend themseleves escalating into full blown conflicts.

as I recall, vietnam war initially had only our “military advisers.” Intervening in Sudan sounds wonderful to you warmongers, now doesn't. Oops, I mean humanitarian missions, because they come with contractors and armed divisions.

Have you opened your own home to customers? If not, then that argument is as tired now as it was during the sixties when the Civil Rights movement began to grow serious legs. If you don’t know the difference between a private home and business with doors open to the public, then you are likely an entirely hopeless case.

Have you opened your own home to customers? If not, then that argument is as tired now as it was during the sixties when the Civil Rights movement began to grow serious legs. If you don’t know the difference between a private home and business with doors open to the public, then you are likely an entirely hopeless case.

you’re comparing apples and oranges ( & parroting hannity).Ok one is a business supposedly open to the public. ( All men are created equal-remember?) The other is someone’s private house…

Azazel, the problem is that the government CAN tell private businesses what to do. it is illegal to not pay taxes, illegal to poison your customers, illegal to kill them, and illegal to deny them service based on race. He’s saying he wants to reverse the laws about race. He’s not saying business should be able to do the other things – so he’s the one being inconsistent.

I don't think Rand is a racist. But he does condone it. One thing about the libertarian right, they hate tyranny in the government but when it comes to tyranny in the workplace, they are all for it.

Yes, that is a thoroughly disgusting photo. If you happened to read my other comment higher up the page I was saying that true libertarian values don’t work in the real world. But I completely support a person’s individual rights as long as they don’t impinge on the rights of others. And I completely agree with Rand/Ron Paul that we should abolish the Federal Reserve and the income taxes on individual income and closing all overseas military bases and getting out of all of these ‘for profit wars’ and bring our troops home.

LMAO You’re such a phoney.

Typical NEOCON
He falls on his face & that cries' I'm the victim'
sniff*
sniff*
LOL

It is interesting to note that a juvenile fascination with this insipid writer is a distinctive feature of several of the most hapless and comically pathetic public figures of our day. Greenspan, for just one example: when he was ultimately exposed as a doddering old fool and sham (and not quite the wise, greybeard cypher of the financial/monetary crowd, as he was widely depicted by the media in the 80′s & 90′s)

I think it is revealing that you don’t know what you are talking about. Rand Paul was NOT named after Ayn Rand. His first name is Randal, Rand is a shortened version for that. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oD-R_OeP6tU

Or get full-body naked “nonsexual” massages from a rent boy after finding a beard to marry …

The Republican Party Motto: Get the government off of your back and into your pants!

Well, perhaps the source of my information was inaccurate. See below. And since Newsweek has stated that he was named after Ayn Rand, perhaps you should inform them as to what his actual name is and insist that they print a retraction, since I feel certain many other readers read the article too.

Rand Paul and the current shift away from rational libertarian politics has very little to do with what Ayn Rand wrote about and the broad Harry Browne appeal of the Libertarians in the 1970s. Ayn Rand was meticulous her analysis of the foundations of society. She was an intellectual of the highest caliber. In fact, in her last public apprearance just after Reagan was elected she severely critized the Reagan / Goldwater platform predicting it would lead to ruin.

Ayn Rand was not about the destruction of government. She was about recognition of the creative in society who build and create things for the benefit of others. She was for the removal of the bariers to creativity so all of society would benefit. It is a sad comment on her lifetime of work to be insulted by people like Rand Paul and others who either have not read her work or like the Pauls with the Constitution not understood it.

If anyone is looney it's Mr. Paul and the rest of the Tea Baggers. Closet racists too it seems.

I really don't feel that Mr. Rand must be a racist. I he may be slightly autistic. I think he's trying to take things so literally that they are warped. Like Hymie the robot in the old “Get Smart,” TV series.

I think there is so much name calling here because it is a more difficult issue than it at first seems. I think that Rand Paul (like other Ayn Rand followers… Randies?) get a literal but foolish and impractical idea… and stick to it.

I can see the appeal of having your say over your private property or business location. As in “We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone.” Right? Sounds good. Sounds all free and libertarian.

The practical problem is when you open your business to the public. A Lunch Counter is the perfect example. Now add a few more businesses who don't serve blacks and you have a lack of advantage based upon race. It absolutely IS the government's business to assure the rights of its citizens. I want a frigging sandwich. I don't want to be turned away if I see you serviing sandwiches to everyone else.

I suppose you could say that he's so blasted ignorant because of his lack of care about his fellow humans. Again, though, my impression is that that is because he's got one of those near autistic brains. It is the same kind of person who would want to pin a countries value to a metal (gold), when the worth of productiviy is much greater. But see.. that's abstract. I don't think this guy (or his followers) can think beyond simplistic and litteral interpretations.

In some instances the conflict resulted in violence, but not always.

It’s not hard to imagine a society that doesn’t rely on the government to conduct food inspections. The vast majority of food is inspected by the companies that sell it – not the govt.

Rand was trained by his Father to be a racist. Yes Rand is looking for minority votes and will say what ever it takes to get in office. Rand is looking pass this election to run for President and get the Confederate Flag back and repeal every Right that was given to minorities and woman. Now McCain tried to suck up for black votes but he failed with his lie. Now Rand can't stand blacks or any minority but will smile, lie and say what ever he has to, for that vote. Like Father like Son. A child isn't born racist their taught racism and Rand is a clear example of that. Let's hope Rand isn't like Strom Thurmond and have a secret black love child.

“removal of the barriers to creativity” sounds good, but what does it mean specifically?

Here's how it works for Rand:

Public facilities (if there are any) ok
Private facilities – you can put up a sigh that says: “no blacks”

So, in the reich-wing and libertarians' world, there really aren't any public facilities. So, these things would be ok to exclude blacks from. The local:

- private schools (which are all that's left after vouchers take over)
- bowling alley
- malls
- golf course
- arcades
- movies
- amusement parks
- any private beaches or campgrounds
- etc, etc, etc

This man is a fool.

This is what it is all about, did DADDY teach his children to be RACIST? It's 2010 and just like all the mental defectives of the CONSERVALIGIOUS RETHUGLICANISM MOVEMENT (aka: BIRTHER BAGGER KLANSMEN) he just cant wait for his chance to undo 50 plus years of law so he can have his WHITES ONLY CUSTOMER signs up so he knows where to congregate with the sicko (like) minded. So I want to know is he for sterilization of the poor black women? like TOM COBURN. Or does he want to strip the Constitution of the 19th amendment to take away the right of women to vote like KAY BAILY HUTCHISON? Does he want to strip the 13th 14th 15th 16th 17th 24th 26th amendments (All have to do with citizenship and voting rights) from the Constitution like his movement demands be done? lets just all agree the apple of racism does not get thrown all that far from their dust bin of history idealogy that represents their family tree. Send this white power canidate in his CONSERVALIGIOUS RETHUGLICAN hooded robe packing come November.

He did not say he supported it He just claims he will not support repealing it (never again publically) so do not decieve your self, HE IS AND WILL ALWAYS BE A RACISTS WHO SCREWS UP AND REVEALS HIS TRUE COLORS the colors of the RED MENACE Ronnie Reagan warned us about, only this red menace is domestic and it is just the latest incarnation of the KLAN/NAZIS that have always found shelter within the RETHUGLICAN PARTY

Because free association is a fundamental natural right, and we shouldn’t allow the government to tell us who can and can’t do business with. It also violates property rights – it forces a business owner to allow their property to be put at the disposal of a patron.

Just as I would choose not to serve a neo-nazi, some bigot has the right not to serve someone they don’t like. It’s called one of the prices of having a free society.

Why does the government allow businesses to discriminate on something so superficial as wearing a shirt? Rand is short for Randall.

FYI – I happen to be a member of a minority that faced widespread discrimination, and even today is not allowed in some private clubs. I wouldn’t want to be a member there anyway. Fuck them.

What does this have to do with the Bill of Rights? Have you read them lately?

Check out the 9th and 10th Amendments
* Ninth Amendment – Protection of rights not specifically enumerated in the Constitution.
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
* Tenth Amendment – Powers of States and people.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Bill_of_Rights#Amendments

Fundamentally there should be no difference. Private property is private property.

Businesses are never open to EVERYONE. Try going into a fancy restaurant wearing a tank top and shorts. The govt. allows businesses to discriminate against people all the time – just not on race and a few other qualities. Seems rather arbitrary and silly abridgment of private property rights.

Private ownership means you that you should be able to decide who you do business with. Period.

and that’s why peanut butter kills…and, of course, BP regulates itself—–not a problem for thrasher!

Did you happen to notice that in the past couple of hours Randal has completely reversed himself on his CRA idiocy?
—–so by all means keep on defending it, thrasher, whereas Randy has already conceded

Well hopefully now you will learn to question what you read in newsweek. But I did inform them of their factual error and lack of proof checking, as well as pointing out that Mr. Fineman has his head so far up his own ass that whatever assumption he comes up with seems correct to him and is therefore fit to be published without verification, even if his conjecture has no basis in truth.

Should the government be able to force you to patron a white supremacist grocery store?
Should the government be able to force you to allow a dirty bum into your home?

He also thinks that a private business has the right to discriminate against white people as well, so lets not make this just about black people, but rather a question of property rights, does a person have the right to stop somebody entering their property based on race or anything else for that matter ? if the answer to that is no then there is no such thing as private property ?.

Not a one of those amendments gives you the right to smoke cigarettes with MY lungs, pal.
If Jefferson were alive he’d bitchslap the Pauls

It is revealing that you are so irony-impaired as to not understand the humor implicit in Daddy Paul’s disclaimer regarding Baby Paul’s given name and the happenstance of his adolescent obsession with the infamous hack author.

This sounds like Sarah Palin whining about Katey Couric interviewing her. When they’re asked tough, logical questions that no one else asks them in their plastic bubble, it’s “the liberal media” trying to get them. When in reality, it’s someone asking them a really good, challenging question that no one in their posse would ever ask them.

The fact that you take the po-faced denials of the Paul clan (regarding “Randal”) at face value speaks volumes about your credulity. Your righteous indignation–flying smack dab into the face of the obvious the Ayn Rand connection— is, frankly, hilarious

Perversion is subjective. I think Souter (married with kids) is perverted for preaching abstinence and family values while fucking his part time secretary who’s interviewing him about it.

You don't think you react as a trained parrot to say racist. You are acting against yourself. Who taught you to speak up against those who are speaking up for your civil rights?

Dr. Paul ought to be a hero on Rawstory — unless you're just Obama apologists, lies and all.

(to spare you the time in replying, I supported Dr. Paul's father when he pointed out the lies of the BUSH admin. You bet that both parties lie — and they will until we throw all the bums out!)

Race is not a “quality,” it is an immutable trait or characteristic shared by an entire class of persons. Rules about attire or disruptive persons do not discriminate against an entire class of persons based on an immutable trait. The business is still open to those persons so long as they conform to the rules; no one is excluded by virtue of who they are. They have the option of conforming to the rules if they want to do business at a given establishment. If you allow refusal of service based on race, THERE IS NO REMEDY for the person refused. That is why, legally, these are categorically different from one another.

Race is not a “quality,” it is an immutable trait or characteristic shared by an entire class of persons. Rules about attire or disruptive persons do not discriminate against an entire class of persons based on an immutable trait. The business is still open to those persons so long as they conform to the rules; no one is excluded by virtue of who they are. They have the option of conforming to the rules if they want to do business at a given establishment. If you allow refusal of service based on race, THERE IS NO REMEDY for the person refused. That is why, legally, these are categorically different from one another.

Race is not a “quality,” it is an immutable trait or characteristic shared by an entire class of persons. Rules about attire or disruptive persons do not discriminate against an entire class of persons based on an immutable trait. The business is still open to those persons so long as they conform to the rules; no one is excluded by virtue of who they are. They have the option of conforming to the rules if they want to do business at a given establishment. If you allow refusal of service based on race, THERE IS NO REMEDY for the person refused. That is why, legally, these are categorically different from one another.

Race is not a “quality,” it is an immutable trait or characteristic shared by an entire class of persons. Rules about attire or disruptive persons do not discriminate against an entire class of persons based on an immutable trait. The business is still open to those persons so long as they conform to the rules; no one is excluded by virtue of who they are. They have the option of conforming to the rules if they want to do business at a given establishment. If you allow refusal of service based on race, THERE IS NO REMEDY for the person refused. That is why, legally, these are categorically different from one another.

Says who? I mean, you are entitled to your opinion, but it is just your opinion. And it is contrary the judgment of Anglo-American jurisprudence.

Says who? I mean, you are entitled to your opinion, but it is just your opinion. And it is contrary the judgment of Anglo-American jurisprudence.

Says who? I mean, you are entitled to your opinion, but it is just your opinion. And it is contrary the judgment of Anglo-American jurisprudence.

Says who? I mean, you are entitled to your opinion, but it is just your opinion. And it is contrary the judgment of Anglo-American jurisprudence.

Every time Rand uses the expression 'institutionalized racism' he exposes himself for the disgusting racist pig that he is.
He says he's against 'institutionalized racism' but he's real clear he approves of 'private sphere' racism. In all his interviews so far he's been very careful to say those words 'institutionalized racism'. Here's a clue Rand, there's no such thing as private racism. All racism is public when it's practised by anyone at anytime, anywhere.
Rand Paul's candidacy just crashed and burned today.

Every time Rand uses the expression 'institutionalized racism' he exposes himself for the disgusting racist pig that he is.
He says he's against 'institutionalized racism' but he's real clear he approves of 'private sphere' racism. In all his interviews so far he's been very careful to say those words 'institutionalized racism'. Here's a clue Rand, there's no such thing as private racism. All racism is public when it's practised by anyone at anytime, anywhere.
Rand Paul's candidacy just crashed and burned today.

Opinions are like assholes . . .

Everyone has one, and they all smell.

Opinions are like assholes . . .

Everyone has one, and they all smell.

Opinions are like assholes . . .

Everyone has one, and they all smell.

Opinions are like assholes . . .

Everyone has one, and they all smell.

Sorry Rand the left had nothing to do with you racist homophobic comments. It's all on you.

Exactly, why do both Rachel “GE” Maddow and Glenn “Fox” Beck both attack and try to marginalize the Pauls? Simple, they are a huge threat to the same party that both spokesholes protect – the elite. I used to be a progressive, until I woke up. Has the Obama debacle not taught you staunch Democrats anything? If not, you’re blind.

What really bothers me about “Dr.” Madwoman is she views way to many issues through the lens of sexuality. I remember years ago, when I actually liked her, she was a huge proponent of the Gardasil vaccine. Just like Rick Perry-R was on the other side getting money from Merck to make the vaccine mandatory for young school girls. To Maddow it was all about parents not wanting their daughters to have the shots because they were afraid it might cause promiscuity. How dare they – those horrible Christians! She totally ignored the fact that the woman scientist who worked on the vax and is the leading expert on HPV (the fearless Dr. Diane Harper) felt is wasn’t safe. Now after hundreds of girls have died and thousands more have been maimed over this unnecessary, ineffective, but extremely profitable vaccine had Maddow apologized? Since then, I’ve noticed she frequently focus on sex and sexuality. Nothing against my gay brothers and sisters, but I don’t think gay rights are the most pressing issue we face today. She takes one small slice of the pie (no pun intended) and misses the big picture. Did you ask Rand Paul about the Fed? How about the BushBama wars? No, just try to smear him as a racist using her evil genius.

So in summary: F.U. Rachael Maddow you NWO shill!

Exactly, why do both Rachel “GE” Maddow and Glenn “Fox” Beck both attack and try to marginalize the Pauls? Simple, they are a huge threat to the same party that both spokesholes protect – the elite. I used to be a progressive, until I woke up. Has the Obama debacle not taught you staunch Democrats anything? If not, you’re blind.

What really bothers me about “Dr.” Madwoman is she views way to many issues through the lens of sexuality. I remember years ago, when I actually liked her, she was a huge proponent of the Gardasil vaccine. Just like Rick Perry-R was on the other side getting money from Merck to make the vaccine mandatory for young school girls. To Maddow it was all about parents not wanting their daughters to have the shots because they were afraid it might cause promiscuity. How dare they – those horrible Christians! She totally ignored the fact that the woman scientist who worked on the vax and is the leading expert on HPV (the fearless Dr. Diane Harper) felt is wasn’t safe. Now after hundreds of girls have died and thousands more have been maimed over this unnecessary, ineffective, but extremely profitable vaccine had Maddow apologized? Since then, I’ve noticed she frequently focus on sex and sexuality. Nothing against my gay brothers and sisters, but I don’t think gay rights are the most pressing issue we face today. She takes one small slice of the pie (no pun intended) and misses the big picture. Did you ask Rand Paul about the Fed? How about the BushBama wars? No, just try to smear him as a racist using her evil genius.

So in summary: F.U. Rachael Maddow you NWO shill!

Exactly, why do both Rachel “GE” Maddow and Glenn “Fox” Beck both attack and try to marginalize the Pauls? Simple, they are a huge threat to the same party that both spokesholes protect – the elite. I used to be a progressive, until I woke up. Has the Obama debacle not taught you staunch Democrats anything? If not, you’re blind.

What really bothers me about “Dr.” Madwoman is she views way to many issues through the lens of sexuality. I remember years ago, when I actually liked her, she was a huge proponent of the Gardasil vaccine. Just like Rick Perry-R was on the other side getting money from Merck to make the vaccine mandatory for young school girls. To Maddow it was all about parents not wanting their daughters to have the shots because they were afraid it might cause promiscuity. How dare they – those horrible Christians! She totally ignored the fact that the woman scientist who worked on the vax and is the leading expert on HPV (the fearless Dr. Diane Harper) felt is wasn’t safe. Now after hundreds of girls have died and thousands more have been maimed over this unnecessary, ineffective, but extremely profitable vaccine had Maddow apologized? Since then, I’ve noticed she frequently focus on sex and sexuality. Nothing against my gay brothers and sisters, but I don’t think gay rights are the most pressing issue we face today. She takes one small slice of the pie (no pun intended) and misses the big picture. Did you ask Rand Paul about the Fed? How about the BushBama wars? No, just try to smear him as a racist using her evil genius.

So in summary: F.U. Rachael Maddow you NWO shill!

Exactly, why do both Rachel “GE” Maddow and Glenn “Fox” Beck both attack and try to marginalize the Pauls? Simple, they are a huge threat to the same party that both spokesholes protect – the elite. I used to be a progressive, until I woke up. Has the Obama debacle not taught you staunch Democrats anything? If not, you’re blind.

What really bothers me about “Dr.” Madwoman is she views way to many issues through the lens of sexuality. I remember years ago, when I actually liked her, she was a huge proponent of the Gardasil vaccine. Just like Rick Perry-R was on the other side getting money from Merck to make the vaccine mandatory for young school girls. To Maddow it was all about parents not wanting their daughters to have the shots because they were afraid it might cause promiscuity. How dare they – those horrible Christians! She totally ignored the fact that the woman scientist who worked on the vax and is the leading expert on HPV (the fearless Dr. Diane Harper) felt is wasn’t safe. Now after hundreds of girls have died and thousands more have been maimed over this unnecessary, ineffective, but extremely profitable vaccine had Maddow apologized? Since then, I’ve noticed she frequently focus on sex and sexuality. Nothing against my gay brothers and sisters, but I don’t think gay rights are the most pressing issue we face today. She takes one small slice of the pie (no pun intended) and misses the big picture. Did you ask Rand Paul about the Fed? How about the BushBama wars? No, just try to smear him as a racist using her evil genius.

So in summary: F.U. Rachael Maddow you NWO shill!

Who defines “profound impact”? Private property rights should be absolute, and not leave any room for tyranny meted out by some government bureaucrat. We don’t know what caused the gulf oil spill, but freak accidents do happen – regulation or not. The most heavily regulated industries (banks, airlines, etc.) still make these mistakes. Regulation is not a panacea. I contend that the free market does a better job of regulating than the govt. The govt tends to prop up crappy businesses that are politically connected (GM, Fannie, Citi, etc.).

Who defines “profound impact”? Private property rights should be absolute, and not leave any room for tyranny meted out by some government bureaucrat. We don’t know what caused the gulf oil spill, but freak accidents do happen – regulation or not. The most heavily regulated industries (banks, airlines, etc.) still make these mistakes. Regulation is not a panacea. I contend that the free market does a better job of regulating than the govt. The govt tends to prop up crappy businesses that are politically connected (GM, Fannie, Citi, etc.).

Who defines “profound impact”? Private property rights should be absolute, and not leave any room for tyranny meted out by some government bureaucrat. We don’t know what caused the gulf oil spill, but freak accidents do happen – regulation or not. The most heavily regulated industries (banks, airlines, etc.) still make these mistakes. Regulation is not a panacea. I contend that the free market does a better job of regulating than the govt. The govt tends to prop up crappy businesses that are politically connected (GM, Fannie, Citi, etc.).

Who defines “profound impact”? Private property rights should be absolute, and not leave any room for tyranny meted out by some government bureaucrat. We don’t know what caused the gulf oil spill, but freak accidents do happen – regulation or not. The most heavily regulated industries (banks, airlines, etc.) still make these mistakes. Regulation is not a panacea. I contend that the free market does a better job of regulating than the govt. The govt tends to prop up crappy businesses that are politically connected (GM, Fannie, Citi, etc.).

If you don’t like BP’s business practices – stop buying their product. They aren’t the only oil company in town. FYI I don’t agree with all of Rand Paul’s positions.

If you don’t like BP’s business practices – stop buying their product. They aren’t the only oil company in town. FYI I don’t agree with all of Rand Paul’s positions.

If you don’t like BP’s business practices – stop buying their product. They aren’t the only oil company in town. FYI I don’t agree with all of Rand Paul’s positions.

If you don’t like BP’s business practices – stop buying their product. They aren’t the only oil company in town. FYI I don’t agree with all of Rand Paul’s positions.

You don’t have the right to not have to listen to my free speech – but you have the right to freely associate and avoid it. Just like you can freely choose to avoid cigarette smoke.

You don’t have the right to not have to listen to my free speech – but you have the right to freely associate and avoid it. Just like you can freely choose to avoid cigarette smoke.

You don’t have the right to not have to listen to my free speech – but you have the right to freely associate and avoid it. Just like you can freely choose to avoid cigarette smoke.

You don’t have the right to not have to listen to my free speech – but you have the right to freely associate and avoid it. Just like you can freely choose to avoid cigarette smoke.

Good points, yet what is the rememdy for discriminating against someone deemed too old? Too ugly? Too fat? Too stupid?

These are all fairly immutable traits, but businesses are given a free pass to discriminate on them.

Good points, yet what is the rememdy for discriminating against someone deemed too old? Too ugly? Too fat? Too stupid?

These are all fairly immutable traits, but businesses are given a free pass to discriminate on them.

Good points, yet what is the rememdy for discriminating against someone deemed too old? Too ugly? Too fat? Too stupid?

These are all fairly immutable traits, but businesses are given a free pass to discriminate on them.

Good points, yet what is the rememdy for discriminating against someone deemed too old? Too ugly? Too fat? Too stupid?

These are all fairly immutable traits, but businesses are given a free pass to discriminate on them.

how can a guy named after a dominatrix, kgb mole and capitalism's lethal manchurian candidate worshipped by his pops and the chicago school of economics as a savior call anybody else “loony”?

In a republic, the voters, through their elected representatives, define “profound impact.” If “some government bureaucrat” seems to be interpreting it in a way the voters dislike, they have the option of voting for someone who will work to change said bureaucrat’s definition, or work to have said bureaucrat fired.

As for your faith in the “free market,” no such animal has ever existed. Government has a legitimate role to play in making sure all citizens have access, on essentially equal terms, to markets. It’s a little thing called “fairness.” Markets, left to their own devices, INVARIABLY aggregate money and power at the very top, and continue to do so until they collapse under their own weight. Left strictly to their own machinations, markets eventually consume themselves. Strong government oversight and regulation protect markets from themselves, and can help ensure a more stable economy for everyone (even if it means a few greedy capitalists don’t get quite as rich quite as fast).

In a republic, the voters, through their elected representatives, define “profound impact.” If “some government bureaucrat” seems to be interpreting it in a way the voters dislike, they have the option of voting for someone who will work to change said bureaucrat’s definition, or work to have said bureaucrat fired.

As for your faith in the “free market,” no such animal has ever existed. Government has a legitimate role to play in making sure all citizens have access, on essentially equal terms, to markets. It’s a little thing called “fairness.” Markets, left to their own devices, INVARIABLY aggregate money and power at the very top, and continue to do so until they collapse under their own weight. Left strictly to their own machinations, markets eventually consume themselves. Strong government oversight and regulation protect markets from themselves, and can help ensure a more stable economy for everyone (even if it means a few greedy capitalists don’t get quite as rich quite as fast).

In a republic, the voters, through their elected representatives, define “profound impact.” If “some government bureaucrat” seems to be interpreting it in a way the voters dislike, they have the option of voting for someone who will work to change said bureaucrat’s definition, or work to have said bureaucrat fired.

As for your faith in the “free market,” no such animal has ever existed. Government has a legitimate role to play in making sure all citizens have access, on essentially equal terms, to markets. It’s a little thing called “fairness.” Markets, left to their own devices, INVARIABLY aggregate money and power at the very top, and continue to do so until they collapse under their own weight. Left strictly to their own machinations, markets eventually consume themselves. Strong government oversight and regulation protect markets from themselves, and can help ensure a more stable economy for everyone (even if it means a few greedy capitalists don’t get quite as rich quite as fast).

In a republic, the voters, through their elected representatives, define “profound impact.” If “some government bureaucrat” seems to be interpreting it in a way the voters dislike, they have the option of voting for someone who will work to change said bureaucrat’s definition, or work to have said bureaucrat fired.

As for your faith in the “free market,” no such animal has ever existed. Government has a legitimate role to play in making sure all citizens have access, on essentially equal terms, to markets. It’s a little thing called “fairness.” Markets, left to their own devices, INVARIABLY aggregate money and power at the very top, and continue to do so until they collapse under their own weight. Left strictly to their own machinations, markets eventually consume themselves. Strong government oversight and regulation protect markets from themselves, and can help ensure a more stable economy for everyone (even if it means a few greedy capitalists don’t get quite as rich quite as fast).

Well, technically, discrimination on the basis of age is illegal in most cases, but businesses usually manage to find ways around it. And there’s no denying that discrimination on the basis of other immutable traits goes on all the time. Perhaps that means we’ve only attained a “more perfect Union,” and not a “perfect Union.”

Well, technically, discrimination on the basis of age is illegal in most cases, but businesses usually manage to find ways around it. And there’s no denying that discrimination on the basis of other immutable traits goes on all the time. Perhaps that means we’ve only attained a “more perfect Union,” and not a “perfect Union.”

Well, technically, discrimination on the basis of age is illegal in most cases, but businesses usually manage to find ways around it. And there’s no denying that discrimination on the basis of other immutable traits goes on all the time. Perhaps that means we’ve only attained a “more perfect Union,” and not a “perfect Union.”

Well, technically, discrimination on the basis of age is illegal in most cases, but businesses usually manage to find ways around it. And there’s no denying that discrimination on the basis of other immutable traits goes on all the time. Perhaps that means we’ve only attained a “more perfect Union,” and not a “perfect Union.”

You’re right, we live in a Republic, which is supposed to protect the rights of individuals and minorities against the tyranny of the majority. The business owner is one of the most discriminated against minorities today.

Your view on markets is way off. Sounds like you’re quoting Marx. Markets, where participants are able to freely exchange goods and services, enrich everyone involved, and historically have lifted up the abject poor. Witness the rapid development of a Chinese middle class today.

You’re right, we live in a Republic, which is supposed to protect the rights of individuals and minorities against the tyranny of the majority. The business owner is one of the most discriminated against minorities today.

Your view on markets is way off. Sounds like you’re quoting Marx. Markets, where participants are able to freely exchange goods and services, enrich everyone involved, and historically have lifted up the abject poor. Witness the rapid development of a Chinese middle class today.

You’re right, we live in a Republic, which is supposed to protect the rights of individuals and minorities against the tyranny of the majority. The business owner is one of the most discriminated against minorities today.

Your view on markets is way off. Sounds like you’re quoting Marx. Markets, where participants are able to freely exchange goods and services, enrich everyone involved, and historically have lifted up the abject poor. Witness the rapid development of a Chinese middle class today.

You’re right, we live in a Republic, which is supposed to protect the rights of individuals and minorities against the tyranny of the majority. The business owner is one of the most discriminated against minorities today.

Your view on markets is way off. Sounds like you’re quoting Marx. Markets, where participants are able to freely exchange goods and services, enrich everyone involved, and historically have lifted up the abject poor. Witness the rapid development of a Chinese middle class today.

It’s just plain wrong to treat people differently based on anything beyond their control. However, the greater evil is to have the government coercing people, forcing to do business in a particular way, or telling them how to live their lives, etc. The same government that can tell you who to serve can tell you what drugs you are allowed to use, or whether or not you’re allowed to have an abortion. I think all of these are individual rights to be held sacred.

It’s just plain wrong to treat people differently based on anything beyond their control. However, the greater evil is to have the government coercing people, forcing to do business in a particular way, or telling them how to live their lives, etc. The same government that can tell you who to serve can tell you what drugs you are allowed to use, or whether or not you’re allowed to have an abortion. I think all of these are individual rights to be held sacred.

It’s just plain wrong to treat people differently based on anything beyond their control. However, the greater evil is to have the government coercing people, forcing to do business in a particular way, or telling them how to live their lives, etc. The same government that can tell you who to serve can tell you what drugs you are allowed to use, or whether or not you’re allowed to have an abortion. I think all of these are individual rights to be held sacred.

It’s just plain wrong to treat people differently based on anything beyond their control. However, the greater evil is to have the government coercing people, forcing to do business in a particular way, or telling them how to live their lives, etc. The same government that can tell you who to serve can tell you what drugs you are allowed to use, or whether or not you’re allowed to have an abortion. I think all of these are individual rights to be held sacred.

Ahm, how many oil companies do you think there ACTUALLY are (besides isn’t it kind of too late for that?). Anyway how much choice do you think there is in the matter. And if there are what, maybe… maybe 5 distinct petrochem giants now, how many will there be in 10 years?
We really need to try to be better investigators and thinkers before we make political desicions.
And these people conflating not letting someone in a place without a shirt to not letting in a black person …. that has to be something that borders on willful ignorance.
Me, personally I like riding on street with a line down the middle and traffic lights at intersections like say, Fairfax and Santa Monica. I haven’t seen Ayn Rand or her thralls down there directing traffic lately.

Ahm, how many oil companies do you think there ACTUALLY are (besides isn’t it kind of too late for that?). Anyway how much choice do you think there is in the matter. And if there are what, maybe… maybe 5 distinct petrochem giants now, how many will there be in 10 years?
We really need to try to be better investigators and thinkers before we make political desicions.
And these people conflating not letting someone in a place without a shirt to not letting in a black person …. that has to be something that borders on willful ignorance.
Me, personally I like riding on street with a line down the middle and traffic lights at intersections like say, Fairfax and Santa Monica. I haven’t seen Ayn Rand or her thralls down there directing traffic lately.

Ahm, how many oil companies do you think there ACTUALLY are (besides isn’t it kind of too late for that?). Anyway how much choice do you think there is in the matter. And if there are what, maybe… maybe 5 distinct petrochem giants now, how many will there be in 10 years?
We really need to try to be better investigators and thinkers before we make political desicions.
And these people conflating not letting someone in a place without a shirt to not letting in a black person …. that has to be something that borders on willful ignorance.
Me, personally I like riding on street with a line down the middle and traffic lights at intersections like say, Fairfax and Santa Monica. I haven’t seen Ayn Rand or her thralls down there directing traffic lately.

Ahm, how many oil companies do you think there ACTUALLY are (besides isn’t it kind of too late for that?). Anyway how much choice do you think there is in the matter. And if there are what, maybe… maybe 5 distinct petrochem giants now, how many will there be in 10 years?
We really need to try to be better investigators and thinkers before we make political desicions.
And these people conflating not letting someone in a place without a shirt to not letting in a black person …. that has to be something that borders on willful ignorance.
Me, personally I like riding on street with a line down the middle and traffic lights at intersections like say, Fairfax and Santa Monica. I haven’t seen Ayn Rand or her thralls down there directing traffic lately.

Dude businesses survived quite well denying services to black folks for hundreds of years. It was part of how whites regulated black folks long after slavery was over.
It strains credulity that anyone does not know this.

Dude businesses survived quite well denying services to black folks for hundreds of years. It was part of how whites regulated black folks long after slavery was over.
It strains credulity that anyone does not know this.

Dude businesses survived quite well denying services to black folks for hundreds of years. It was part of how whites regulated black folks long after slavery was over.
It strains credulity that anyone does not know this.

Dude businesses survived quite well denying services to black folks for hundreds of years. It was part of how whites regulated black folks long after slavery was over.
It strains credulity that anyone does not know this.

The consolidation in the oil and gas industry is aided by the heavy regulations that make it more difficult for smaller companies to compete. Regulation helps big business by driving out smaller competitors. Still, we have independent gas stations in my small town.

The consolidation in the oil and gas industry is aided by the heavy regulations that make it more difficult for smaller companies to compete. Regulation helps big business by driving out smaller competitors. Still, we have independent gas stations in my small town.

The consolidation in the oil and gas industry is aided by the heavy regulations that make it more difficult for smaller companies to compete. Regulation helps big business by driving out smaller competitors. Still, we have independent gas stations in my small town.

The consolidation in the oil and gas industry is aided by the heavy regulations that make it more difficult for smaller companies to compete. Regulation helps big business by driving out smaller competitors. Still, we have independent gas stations in my small town.

Yes, but times society and culture changed – it just takes longer in some areas than others. Do you really think the only way people change their views is with a government law?

Yes, but times society and culture changed – it just takes longer in some areas than others. Do you really think the only way people change their views is with a government law?

Yes, but times society and culture changed – it just takes longer in some areas than others. Do you really think the only way people change their views is with a government law?

Yes, but times society and culture changed – it just takes longer in some areas than others. Do you really think the only way people change their views is with a government law?

Ha ha ha ha ha ha. You asswipe.

One man's commentary:

Private capital tends to become concentrated in few hands, partly because of competition among the capitalists, and partly because technological development and the increasing division of labor encourage the formation of larger units of production at the expense of the smaller ones. The result of these developments is an oligarchy of private capital the enormous power of which cannot be effectively checked even by a democratically organized political society. This is true since the members of legislative bodies are selected by political parties, largely financed or otherwise influenced by private capitalists who, for all practical purposes, separate the electorate from the legislature.

The consequence is that the representatives of the people do not in fact sufficiently protect the interests of the underprivileged sections of the population. Moreover, under existing conditions, private capitalists inevitably control, directly or indirectly, the main sources of information (press, radio, education). It is thus extremely difficult, and indeed in most cases quite impossible, for the individual citizen to come to objective conclusions and to make intelligent use of his political rights.

Albert Einstein

Asswipe would take issue with that.

You are an intellectually dishonest, race-baiting, smear troll. Like most liberal democrats, only worse.

Dumb. Non sequitur. Rand Paul did not advocate dumping toxic waste. You fail.

Dumb. Non sequitur. Rand Paul did not advocate dumping toxic waste. You fail.

Dumb. Non sequitur. Rand Paul did not advocate dumping toxic waste. You fail.

Dumb. Non sequitur. Rand Paul did not advocate dumping toxic waste. You fail.

Dumb. Non sequitur. Rand Paul did not advocate government ownership of wombs. You fail.

Dumb. Non sequitur. Rand Paul did not advocate government ownership of wombs. You fail.

Dumb. Non sequitur. Rand Paul did not advocate government ownership of wombs. You fail.

Dumb. Non sequitur. Rand Paul did not advocate government ownership of wombs. You fail.

Okay, it may be obvious to you, however, your opinion is based only on your incorrect assumptions and not the truth. Hmmm, who should I believe about a father naming his son? The people actually involved, or you? Ron Paul is a Christian. Ayn Rand is very much against Christianity. Ron Paul respects the Founding Fathers and thinks that Ayn Rand does not. ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjwuGHPilwI ) While Ron Paul and Ayn Rand share some points of view, they differ on many others. Enough differences that naming his son after her did not happen. I suggest you stop living in your own fantasy world where your own bs is always the truth, do some research, and join the real world.

Okay, it may be obvious to you, however, your opinion is based only on your incorrect assumptions and not the truth. Hmmm, who should I believe about a father naming his son? The people actually involved, or you? Ron Paul is a Christian. Ayn Rand is very much against Christianity. Ron Paul respects the Founding Fathers and thinks that Ayn Rand does not. ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjwuGHPilwI ) While Ron Paul and Ayn Rand share some points of view, they differ on many others. Enough differences that naming his son after her did not happen. I suggest you stop living in your own fantasy world where your own bs is always the truth, do some research, and join the real world.

Okay, it may be obvious to you, however, your opinion is based only on your incorrect assumptions and not the truth. Hmmm, who should I believe about a father naming his son? The people actually involved, or you? Ron Paul is a Christian. Ayn Rand is very much against Christianity. Ron Paul respects the Founding Fathers and thinks that Ayn Rand does not. ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjwuGHPilwI ) While Ron Paul and Ayn Rand share some points of view, they differ on many others. Enough differences that naming his son after her did not happen. I suggest you stop living in your own fantasy world where your own bs is always the truth, do some research, and join the real world.

Dumb. Non sequitur. Rand Paul did not advocate the concept of “separate but equal”. You fail.

You spelt separate wrong.

Dumb. Non sequitur. Rand Paul did not advocate the concept of “separate but equal”. You fail.

You spelt separate wrong.

Okay, it may be obvious to you, however, your opinion is based only on your incorrect assumptions and not the truth. Hmmm, who should I believe about a father naming his son? The people actually involved, or you? Ron Paul is a Christian. Ayn Rand is very much against Christianity. Ron Paul respects the Founding Fathers and thinks that Ayn Rand does not. ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjwuGHPilwI ) While Ron Paul and Ayn Rand share some points of view, they differ on many others. Enough differences that naming his son after her did not happen. I suggest you stop living in your own fantasy world where your own bs is always the truth, do some research, and join the real world.

Dumb. Non sequitur. Rand Paul did not advocate the concept of “separate but equal”. You fail.

You spelt separate wrong.

What…..? Independent gas stations? Do you think they are drilling in the gulf; refining the oil?

Sorry to say most people have to be dragged kicking and screaming into the future amigo. Do you think like, women got the right to vote cuzz everybody just woke up one day and said …”Oh yeah cool”
Or Jim Crow. What, the people in the south one day said, ‘Hmm yeah, let’s let the good black folks of our region vote and go to desegregated schools. Indeed let’s do that right away.”
Look I’m sorry I am being somewhat flippant here but it astounds me somebody could think this shit just takes care of itself. Businesses are here to MAKE A PROFIT. That’s it. They do not care about you or me or any other living thing other than in some marginal, tangental way as to how you can be commodified.

What…..? Independent gas stations? Do you think they are drilling in the gulf; refining the oil?

Sorry to say most people have to be dragged kicking and screaming into the future amigo. Do you think like, women got the right to vote cuzz everybody just woke up one day and said …”Oh yeah cool”
Or Jim Crow. What, the people in the south one day said, ‘Hmm yeah, let’s let the good black folks of our region vote and go to desegregated schools. Indeed let’s do that right away.”
Look I’m sorry I am being somewhat flippant here but it astounds me somebody could think this shit just takes care of itself. Businesses are here to MAKE A PROFIT. That’s it. They do not care about you or me or any other living thing other than in some marginal, tangental way as to how you can be commodified.

What…..? Independent gas stations? Do you think they are drilling in the gulf; refining the oil?

Sorry to say most people have to be dragged kicking and screaming into the future amigo. Do you think like, women got the right to vote cuzz everybody just woke up one day and said …”Oh yeah cool”
Or Jim Crow. What, the people in the south one day said, ‘Hmm yeah, let’s let the good black folks of our region vote and go to desegregated schools. Indeed let’s do that right away.”
Look I’m sorry I am being somewhat flippant here but it astounds me somebody could think this shit just takes care of itself. Businesses are here to MAKE A PROFIT. That’s it. They do not care about you or me or any other living thing other than in some marginal, tangental way as to how you can be commodified.

What…..? Independent gas stations? Do you think they are drilling in the gulf; refining the oil?

Sorry to say most people have to be dragged kicking and screaming into the future amigo. Do you think like, women got the right to vote cuzz everybody just woke up one day and said …”Oh yeah cool”
Or Jim Crow. What, the people in the south one day said, ‘Hmm yeah, let’s let the good black folks of our region vote and go to desegregated schools. Indeed let’s do that right away.”
Look I’m sorry I am being somewhat flippant here but it astounds me somebody could think this shit just takes care of itself. Businesses are here to MAKE A PROFIT. That’s it. They do not care about you or me or any other living thing other than in some marginal, tangental way as to how you can be commodified.

the video clip speaks for itself

Baby Paul is calling WHO loonies?
lol

Really? You really believe that? Ok, fine. You can believe that if you want. But to convince me, please provide me with a reference where Ron Paul advocates letting polluters “dump on anybody they want to”.

No, that’s right, you can’t. You fail.

Really? You really believe that? Ok, fine. You can believe that if you want. But to convince me, please provide me with a reference where Ron Paul advocates letting polluters “dump on anybody they want to”.

No, that’s right, you can’t. You fail.

Really? You really believe that? Ok, fine. You can believe that if you want. But to convince me, please provide me with a reference where Ron Paul advocates letting polluters “dump on anybody they want to”.

No, that’s right, you can’t. You fail.

Really? You really believe that? Ok, fine. You can believe that if you want. But to convince me, please provide me with a reference where Ron Paul advocates letting polluters “dump on anybody they want to”.

No, that’s right, you can’t. You fail.

If I don’t like Mexicans and don’t want any in my home, you’re saying that I have to allow them in my home, whether I like it or not? Is someone from the government going to come over and force me to have Mexicans in my home?

You fail.

If I don’t like Mexicans and don’t want any in my home, you’re saying that I have to allow them in my home, whether I like it or not? Is someone from the government going to come over and force me to have Mexicans in my home?

You fail.

If I don’t like Mexicans and don’t want any in my home, you’re saying that I have to allow them in my home, whether I like it or not? Is someone from the government going to come over and force me to have Mexicans in my home?

You fail.

If I don’t like Mexicans and don’t want any in my home, you’re saying that I have to allow them in my home, whether I like it or not? Is someone from the government going to come over and force me to have Mexicans in my home?

You fail.

So your co-worker is a fool because he has his own opinion? Why must everyone think like you? Are you Perfect? Are you God? Did someone ordain you to be the One who all must follow?

What makes you so special?

Nothing, that’s what. You are not special. You are, in fact, the fool. You should really consider cutting off one of your ears and taking up painting.

So your co-worker is a fool because he has his own opinion? Why must everyone think like you? Are you Perfect? Are you God? Did someone ordain you to be the One who all must follow?

What makes you so special?

Nothing, that’s what. You are not special. You are, in fact, the fool. You should really consider cutting off one of your ears and taking up painting.

So your co-worker is a fool because he has his own opinion? Why must everyone think like you? Are you Perfect? Are you God? Did someone ordain you to be the One who all must follow?

What makes you so special?

Nothing, that’s what. You are not special. You are, in fact, the fool. You should really consider cutting off one of your ears and taking up painting.

So your co-worker is a fool because he has his own opinion? Why must everyone think like you? Are you Perfect? Are you God? Did someone ordain you to be the One who all must follow?

What makes you so special?

Nothing, that’s what. You are not special. You are, in fact, the fool. You should really consider cutting off one of your ears and taking up painting.

Really? Is that the best you can do? You are confronted by your own inane ideology and realize it is trite and silly, so you lash out at the person who makes you loathe yourself?

You are sad. Not because you are unhappy, but because you make others unhappy with your un-American thinking. You fail. Miserably.

Really? Is that the best you can do? You are confronted by your own inane ideology and realize it is trite and silly, so you lash out at the person who makes you loathe yourself?

You are sad. Not because you are unhappy, but because you make others unhappy with your un-American thinking. You fail. Miserably.

Really? Is that the best you can do? You are confronted by your own inane ideology and realize it is trite and silly, so you lash out at the person who makes you loathe yourself?

You are sad. Not because you are unhappy, but because you make others unhappy with your un-American thinking. You fail. Miserably.

Really? Is that the best you can do? You are confronted by your own inane ideology and realize it is trite and silly, so you lash out at the person who makes you loathe yourself?

You are sad. Not because you are unhappy, but because you make others unhappy with your un-American thinking. You fail. Miserably.

Yeah, I think he said that, and you confirmed what he said, and therefore you just exposed yourself as being the stupid one. So if some Nazis want to come onto your property and you don’t want to allow them to, tough shitcakes, buddy. Is that your stance?

Wow. Do you understand now how you totally and utterly fail?

Yeah, I think he said that, and you confirmed what he said, and therefore you just exposed yourself as being the stupid one. So if some Nazis want to come onto your property and you don’t want to allow them to, tough shitcakes, buddy. Is that your stance?

Wow. Do you understand now how you totally and utterly fail?

Yeah, I think he said that, and you confirmed what he said, and therefore you just exposed yourself as being the stupid one. So if some Nazis want to come onto your property and you don’t want to allow them to, tough shitcakes, buddy. Is that your stance?

Wow. Do you understand now how you totally and utterly fail?

Yeah, I think he said that, and you confirmed what he said, and therefore you just exposed yourself as being the stupid one. So if some Nazis want to come onto your property and you don’t want to allow them to, tough shitcakes, buddy. Is that your stance?

Wow. Do you understand now how you totally and utterly fail?

Rand, I'm fairly certain your father would advise you that if you don't want to have to backpeddle, you'll be more careful when you pontificate on your views in front of a camera. It's extraordinarily sad to hear yet another republican whine about how it's the “loony left” who's forcing him to backpeddle like this. It's not surprising. Sorry but you said what you said, and you've even compounded it by claiming opposition to any attempt to overturn Civil Rights legislation while continuing to debate it. You are what you are, Rand, and it's time for even you to understand what others have known for some time now.

How is a private club a service, and what makes it public? If I want to have a card game and I want to invite all my neighbors except Bob, because he’s a misguided ass who thinks private property should be subject to public access, should Bob be able to go whine to a court of law and force his way into my card game?

Please understand that your rights as an individual trump any public “right”. Get a clue. You fail. Totally and completely.

How is a private club a service, and what makes it public? If I want to have a card game and I want to invite all my neighbors except Bob, because he’s a misguided ass who thinks private property should be subject to public access, should Bob be able to go whine to a court of law and force his way into my card game?

Please understand that your rights as an individual trump any public “right”. Get a clue. You fail. Totally and completely.

How is a private club a service, and what makes it public? If I want to have a card game and I want to invite all my neighbors except Bob, because he’s a misguided ass who thinks private property should be subject to public access, should Bob be able to go whine to a court of law and force his way into my card game?

Please understand that your rights as an individual trump any public “right”. Get a clue. You fail. Totally and completely.

How is a private club a service, and what makes it public? If I want to have a card game and I want to invite all my neighbors except Bob, because he’s a misguided ass who thinks private property should be subject to public access, should Bob be able to go whine to a court of law and force his way into my card game?

Please understand that your rights as an individual trump any public “right”. Get a clue. You fail. Totally and completely.

Wow. Fail. No explanation needed.

Wow. Fail. No explanation needed.

Wow. Fail. No explanation needed.

Wow. Fail. No explanation needed.

Ok, so they aren’t public. They’re a private club. People apply and the ones who they don’t want to associate with don’t get in.

If my son has a treehouse and he doesn’t want Alfred in the club, should Alfred call the feds and whine about discrimination?

You people are heathens and apes. Fail.

Ok, so they aren’t public. They’re a private club. People apply and the ones who they don’t want to associate with don’t get in.

If my son has a treehouse and he doesn’t want Alfred in the club, should Alfred call the feds and whine about discrimination?

You people are heathens and apes. Fail.

Ok, so they aren’t public. They’re a private club. People apply and the ones who they don’t want to associate with don’t get in.

If my son has a treehouse and he doesn’t want Alfred in the club, should Alfred call the feds and whine about discrimination?

You people are heathens and apes. Fail.

Ok, so they aren’t public. They’re a private club. People apply and the ones who they don’t want to associate with don’t get in.

If my son has a treehouse and he doesn’t want Alfred in the club, should Alfred call the feds and whine about discrimination?

You people are heathens and apes. Fail.

Dumb. Non sequitur. No one advocated child labor or sexual harassment. Not that anything is wrong with either. I worked for my dad starting when I was 10, and it was laborious. I lived. Get a clue.

Dumb. Non sequitur. No one advocated child labor or sexual harassment. Not that anything is wrong with either. I worked for my dad starting when I was 10, and it was laborious. I lived. Get a clue.

Dumb. Non sequitur. No one advocated child labor or sexual harassment. Not that anything is wrong with either. I worked for my dad starting when I was 10, and it was laborious. I lived. Get a clue.

Dumb. Non sequitur. No one advocated child labor or sexual harassment. Not that anything is wrong with either. I worked for my dad starting when I was 10, and it was laborious. I lived. Get a clue.

Really? He’s expressing his opinion. That is protected under our First Amendment, a right to speak freely which was given to us by The Creator.

What’s your problem? Are you un-American?

Really? He’s expressing his opinion. That is protected under our First Amendment, a right to speak freely which was given to us by The Creator.

What’s your problem? Are you un-American?

Really? He’s expressing his opinion. That is protected under our First Amendment, a right to speak freely which was given to us by The Creator.

What’s your problem? Are you un-American?

Really? He’s expressing his opinion. That is protected under our First Amendment, a right to speak freely which was given to us by The Creator.

What’s your problem? Are you un-American?

It is still a group. Why does it matter whether it’s a race or an abstract selection? It doesn’t. Your rational is flawed. You fail.

It is still a group. Why does it matter whether it’s a race or an abstract selection? It doesn’t. Your rational is flawed. You fail.

It is still a group. Why does it matter whether it’s a race or an abstract selection? It doesn’t. Your rational is flawed. You fail.

It is still a group. Why does it matter whether it’s a race or an abstract selection? It doesn’t. Your rational is flawed. You fail.

If I don’t want you on my property, that is my personal right. It is my property, thus I decide who I want on it, per my personal rights.

You are speaking gibberish. It’s as if you pulled words randomly out of a hat and assembled them according to the position of the stars. You are a monkey. Shouldn’t you be flinging your feces at some boorish gawkers?

Fail.

If I don’t want you on my property, that is my personal right. It is my property, thus I decide who I want on it, per my personal rights.

You are speaking gibberish. It’s as if you pulled words randomly out of a hat and assembled them according to the position of the stars. You are a monkey. Shouldn’t you be flinging your feces at some boorish gawkers?

Fail.

If I don’t want you on my property, that is my personal right. It is my property, thus I decide who I want on it, per my personal rights.

You are speaking gibberish. It’s as if you pulled words randomly out of a hat and assembled them according to the position of the stars. You are a monkey. Shouldn’t you be flinging your feces at some boorish gawkers?

Fail.

If I don’t want you on my property, that is my personal right. It is my property, thus I decide who I want on it, per my personal rights.

You are speaking gibberish. It’s as if you pulled words randomly out of a hat and assembled them according to the position of the stars. You are a monkey. Shouldn’t you be flinging your feces at some boorish gawkers?

Fail.

Oh, wow, the Maddow interview. I see. Well, please point out where that is said in the interview.

Oh, wow, the Maddow interview. I see. Well, please point out where that is said in the interview.

Oh, wow, the Maddow interview. I see. Well, please point out where that is said in the interview.

Um, no. You have no idea what you’re talking about, do you? Please study the concept of a “Constitutional Republic”. Spend years doing so. Only such can cure your level of ignorance.

Um, no. You have no idea what you’re talking about, do you? Please study the concept of a “Constitutional Republic”. Spend years doing so. Only such can cure your level of ignorance.

Um, no. You have no idea what you’re talking about, do you? Please study the concept of a “Constitutional Republic”. Spend years doing so. Only such can cure your level of ignorance.

Um, no. You have no idea what you’re talking about, do you? Please study the concept of a “Constitutional Republic”. Spend years doing so. Only such can cure your level of ignorance.

Rand Paul is right! It's Rachael Maddows fault for exposing a racist.

With the exception of taxes, those things you mention are illegal because the People decided they should be illegal. No one ever gave the government the power to tell private businesses what to do. We do not live under a monarchy where law is created by fiat.

You are a fool. Please understand why you are a fool. It will help you.

With the exception of taxes, those things you mention are illegal because the People decided they should be illegal. No one ever gave the government the power to tell private businesses what to do. We do not live under a monarchy where law is created by fiat.

You are a fool. Please understand why you are a fool. It will help you.

With the exception of taxes, those things you mention are illegal because the People decided they should be illegal. No one ever gave the government the power to tell private businesses what to do. We do not live under a monarchy where law is created by fiat.

You are a fool. Please understand why you are a fool. It will help you.

With the exception of taxes, those things you mention are illegal because the People decided they should be illegal. No one ever gave the government the power to tell private businesses what to do. We do not live under a monarchy where law is created by fiat.

You are a fool. Please understand why you are a fool. It will help you.

You make me sick with your fail. You are a fucking failure. Just go away. Literally. As in, permanently.

You make me sick with your fail. You are a fucking failure. Just go away. Literally. As in, permanently.

You make me sick with your fail. You are a fucking failure. Just go away. Literally. As in, permanently.

You make me sick with your fail. You are a fucking failure. Just go away. Literally. As in, permanently.

The commonly propounded free market theories were all formulated at a time when corporations were basically national entities. As such, it could be safely assumed that the individuals comprising a corporation (its shareholders, management and employees), being also citizens of the country in which they were chartered and operating, shared at least somewhat in the common interest of that country. In that context, by and large, the nice, neat little theories about the self-correcting nature of markets works (or at least, works for a longer period of time before falling victim to its own excesses). But in an era of huge multinational corporations which have little or no allegiance to anything but their own bottom line, those assumptions do not hold.

I think one is very hard-pressed to find, in history, examples where the supposedly “free” market actually succeeded in the way you suggest it is bound to. Yet, history is rife with examples of unregulated markets getting overheated and running away with themselves until they bring about a major economic collapse, from the Dutch Tulip panic of 1637, to the corrupt and totally unregulated stock market of the 1920s that led to the Great Depression, to the Savings and Loan Crisis of the late 80s/early 90s, to the 2008 panic. I think a better case can be made that the most stable economic periods in our history have occurred in times of sensible regulation of markets and their activities. (And before you haul out Reagan’s tired old corpse, keep in mind that the last 30 years have witnessed flat or declining wages for the middle and working classes in real dollars, and a massive redistribution of wealth to a tiny percentage of latter day robber barons).

I’m sorry, but at this point, the burden of proof rests with the laissez-faire free-market advocates to prove that their theories represent anything other than socialism for the wealthy.

As for your use of China as an example, it is way off the mark. Yes, China has opened selective areas of its economy to a kind of experimental capitalism, but it remains very tightly controlled and planned. (Unfortunately, they haven’t been so careful about what they’ve done to their environment — while there are indeed millions of new “middle class” Chinese, there are also millions of rural peasants dying from strange cancers thanks to China’s irresponsible treatment of the environment.)

Rand, you lying little sack o'shit, you only “unequivocally support the Civil Rights Act” because everybody with a shred of decency erupted in fury when they heard that you didn't.

ABSOLUTE PROOF that Rand Paul is a RACIST. AND, that the pee-party movement is no more than the Ku Klux Klan – renamed.

The only person that Rand can blame for the media exploring the things he has said is the Loony Rand that said them in the first place.

Good luck trying to distance yourself from yourself, chump.

One has to enjoy republican physicians.

Amazing how someone who can practice ophthalmology can have such weird real-world views.

Witness the example of Dr. Bill Frist, who looked at years-old videos of Terri Schiavo and made a diagnosis from them-on the floor of the Senate-that she was just fine, just needed a bit more time, nothing wrong with her, nothing to see, no reason to pull the plug…

She had chicken soup where her brains were supposed to be.

The Constitution limited the GOVERNEMENT not the people smart guy. Thusly, the GOVERNEMENT was limited as to what laws it could make. Read the 1st Amendment. It says ” the governnent shall make NO law….” Get it?

Public policy determines that highways and sidewalks are for the benefit of the common good. Does the sidewalk confer a benefit on the private property that abuts it? You bet it does. So private property owners receive a public benefit, paid for by all (blacks and whites), the blacks can be barred from his establishment? What if his business is on fire? Will he receive the publically paid for benefit of the Fire establishment? Should a black Iraq or Vietnam Veteran who fought for this country be denied entrance into an establishment? These are the issues at stake.

What Paul doesn't seem to understand is that a business owner who bans guns in his/her establishment is not discriminating against any particular class of persons. He is merely insisting that a particular object not be brought into his establishment. Anyone can pick up a gun at any time, or they can leave it behind at any time. They cannot do the same with regard to their racial or sexual identity. Legally, it's an entirely different category.

Nonsense. Business are licensed to operate by the state, and are regulated by local, state and federal laws in areas such as zoning, nature of business, health regulations, etc. Just because somebody owns a shack someplace and puts up a “Joe's Crab Shack” sign doesn't mean he has any right to run a restaurant out of that property, absent compliance with applicable laws and holding of necessary permits and licenses.

All you are doing is pointing out the fact that the state should get out of the business of licensing businesses. The state should not be interfering in the free association of individuals, nor giving some preferential treatment over others. Incorporating shields individuals from liability and responsibility – BP is going to get away without paying for their fair share of the oil spill cleanup thanks to this practice.

Perhaps you're right — BP may well get away without paying its fair share. That's why, in instances where the private enterprise can have a profound impact on the public interest, a strong regulatory structure is necessary to protect the public interest. The Gulf oil spill is ultimately the result of years and years of pushing for more and more deregulation, same as the Wall Street meltdown. The public interest in equal access to products and services, with everyone on equal terms, outweighs a business owners' “right” to be a bigoted asshole.

Do all you people who believe that discrimination is a right of a business owner, let me remind you that, although an individual my own the business it is the goverment that allows it to operate. There are rules that are expected to be followed. No one makes anyone open a business. Why is it that you 30% feel the need to ram your ideology down our throats. You TEABAGGERS all are nuts. Can't wait to see Rand loose in Kentucy of all places to a DEMOCRAT.

Ding Bat son just like Ding Bat father. These two should have been inside the Branch Davidian Compound when it burned! Better yet, have them both go down to the marshes when the Coast Guard lights it up to burn off the oil. Have all of the BP execs with them.

Notice he doesn't change his logic, he just says he shouldn't have admitted it on TV. He said what he believed. His belief is 50 years out of date. It should be 200 years out of date. Take note and listen and read carefully before you back the tea party.

Fuck off

When all your thinking is at the first grade level, you don’t belong here.

This, from the mouth of a social, political, familial and financial failure.
Hooda thunkit?

That’s easy. According to the tea-partizan who lives next door to me, the descendants of the slave owners are owed reparations by the black community.1. They didn’t pay their passage to the shore and later the farm.2. When sold didn’t pay to move their family and goods to the new owners’ place.3. When freed by the Traitor Lincoln, didn’t pay for the paper upon which their documentation was printed – didn’t pay for the ink or labor either.4. Later he got really absurd. He began quoting Magnus.

fucking demented

No Maggie, they are fools – like you are – because they keep parroting the opinions of others.

Ayn Rand espoused a utopia without leadership, maintained by a broth of spiritual morality.Bull shit … hunh?

Rand Paul is the most intelligent, civil-rights friendly candidate I have seen in years. The fact that everyone is freaking out over his correct statements goes to show how far we have strayed. It goes to show how rational discussion does not exist on TV, and is missed on blogs supposedly countering TV. Does individual liberty mean anything anymore? Does the right to be yourself mean anything anymore? People who are attacking Rand here show themselves to be ignorant of what makes a society truly free. Hey, keep it up folks, and in the name of political correctness we will lose what good there was in America. Till then, lets all buy into the false left-right fight that means nothing in the scope of history. I hope Rand Paul wins, and I wish he were one day to become president. Now, go back to being rabid over pointless issues while you get robbed and stripped of your rights by both sides…

Maggie – Mexicans are too smart to come to your home. If you have a yard or garage sale, access to the items to be sold may not be restricted under the protections of the Civil Rights Act. If you find this unduly restrictive, you have a house waiting for you in Tabriz – that’s just over the line from Turkey – in Iran.

If you belong to a ‘Club’ that has no public accomodation, like a golf tournament, the ‘Club’ may restrict membership on any basis. But if it hosts a golf tournament or invites a college golf team to practice there – it has forfeited that perogative.

Atlas Van Lines has an empty pickup truck available to haul ALL of your life’s accumulated possessions to the Turkey – Iran border.

I get the feeling Paul has also spent a lot of time isolated in small towns.

Amen!

20 or 30 times the white unemployment rate. The racism in ‘Bama, where I was reared [Warrior County] is still on almost everyone’s lips.

Just. fucking. watch. it! Or better yet, read the transcript!

“This much is clear: The federal government has far overreached in its power grabs. Just look at the recent national healthcare schemes, which my opponent supports. The federal government, for the first time ever, is mandating that individuals purchase a product. The federal government is out of control, and those who love liberty and value individual and state's rights must stand up to it.”

Umm, Dr. Paul, don't you mean the federal government is, for the first time, mandating that individuals purchase a product that isn't WAR?

Sir!

Your enemy is you. You failed to absorb the education provided. I’ll admit you probably went to a school deprived of resources, it was publicly funded by a system dominated by racial distress. Take the above comment by you to a local English teacher. Make it one of color and he or she will rip you a new one and pass on to you that a ‘Step-N-Fetchit’ like you needs to keep your mouth shut and quit speaking for others of color.

Leave Rockefeller out of it. Please!

We now have an example of a thousand donkeys sitting at typewriters will, over time, write a cohesive script. You are finally saying something that is correct. It’s always about race. It’s always about money. It’s always political.

You are your own worst enema!

Ditto-Dummy,

When he said that there is no legal basis to regulate pollution, he advocated rampant discharges. Fool – fuck off

Ditto-Dummy,

When he said that there is no legal basis to regulate pollution, he advocated rampant discharges. Fool – fuck off

Gawd, you’re stupid. Fuck off

Gawd, you’re stupid. Fuck off

If the difference must be explaned, you would either obfuscate or deny the credentials of the one chosen to explain. Yo momma should never have allowed you out of kindergarten.

If the difference must be explaned, you would either obfuscate or deny the credentials of the one chosen to explain. Yo momma should never have allowed you out of kindergarten.

A fool and its money are soon parted.
I understand that you shop at WalMart.
Will you quit shopping at WalMart if they close the doors to people of color?
Of coarse you will, fool!

A fool and its money are soon parted.
I understand that you shop at WalMart.
Will you quit shopping at WalMart if they close the doors to people of color?
Of coarse you will, fool!

Some comments from the article:

“There was a need for federal intervention to say we can't have segregation,” Paul told Ingraham”

I see, so when one wants to get elected he can conveniently set aside is anti-government convictions and agree that some legislation is indeed appropriate. So then what makes the Pauls think that they alone can decide how much is enough? Has it occurred to them that most of the laws on the books were hard won, are time tested and were meant to stop people from inflicting some kind of harm on others?

“I have clearly stated in prior interviews that I abhor racial discrimination and would have worked to end segregation … We have made great strides, but there is still work to be done to ensure the great promise of Liberty is granted to all Americans.”

So then you advocate using the federal government to create laws to end segregation (and possibly any number of other issues), because without laws we all know that it never would have ended.

“As I have said in previous statements, sections of the Civil Rights Act were debated on Constitutional grounds when the legislation was passed. Those issues have been settled by federal courts in the intervening years.”

OK, so then we can expect that, if elected, you will not attempt to change or repeal laws that are already settled and on the books right?

“Just look at the recent national healthcare schemes, which my opponent supports. The federal government, for the first time ever, is mandating that individuals purchase a product.”

Wrong. You also have to buy automobile insurance. Now I would agree that if we are obliged to purchase insurance that it ought to, by law, at least be affordable. Like health insurance it should be publically available. But I'd be glad that everyone has to have it if some bozo on a cell phone slams into my car.

No, sorry Mr Paul, you are the loony here.

you better chill out man these liberal’s will call you a racist everyone is a racist to them

you better chill out man these liberal’s will call you a racist everyone is a racist to them

black people are not your fucking children liberals we don’t need you standing up for us

black people are not your fucking children liberals we don’t need you standing up for us

ok dumbass liberal

ok dumbass liberal

what is the matter you don’t like me stirring up your slaves lumberjock you scared they may wake up and cut your throat

what is the matter you don’t like me stirring up your slaves lumberjock you scared they may wake up and cut your throat

I really did think libertarians were opposed to bans on abortions, reasoning it was a woman’s right to control her body. If Rand Paul is opposed to abortion, he is no true libertarian. That said, if anyone is loony, it is Rand Paul. These questions of segregation were dealt with more than 40 years ago. And yes, government does have a right to meddle in private businesses. No one should have to wait until their child dies from lead in toys to then stop buying the toys for their other children. There is a definite role for government regulations in a huge society where everyone is just a computer click away from a merchant he probably does not know.

I really did think libertarians were opposed to bans on abortions, reasoning it was a woman’s right to control her body. If Rand Paul is opposed to abortion, he is no true libertarian. That said, if anyone is loony, it is Rand Paul. These questions of segregation were dealt with more than 40 years ago. And yes, government does have a right to meddle in private businesses. No one should have to wait until their child dies from lead in toys to then stop buying the toys for their other children. There is a definite role for government regulations in a huge society where everyone is just a computer click away from a merchant he probably does not know.

Two complete and separate issues. Furthermore, his position was relating to private business and he brought up the philosophical implications that the Civil Rights Act made law. Really it was nothing more than that. This forum will no doubt find a racist under every rock when none exists.

Personally, I don’t see the problem with allowing private business owners who are bigots (white, black, asian, latino etc) to reveal their true colors. At least everyone when then know where to avoid eating if they disagreed. Laws or no laws you will never be able to legislate whether someone FEELS a certain way about another person. The only thing we can hope for is that people judge others as individuals and trust in the civil liberties protected in the Constitution, The Bill of Rights and the subsequent amendments. Treat others with respect. Peace out.

Two complete and separate issues. Furthermore, his position was relating to private business and he brought up the philosophical implications that the Civil Rights Act made law. Really it was nothing more than that. This forum will no doubt find a racist under every rock when none exists.

Personally, I don’t see the problem with allowing private business owners who are bigots (white, black, asian, latino etc) to reveal their true colors. At least everyone when then know where to avoid eating if they disagreed. Laws or no laws you will never be able to legislate whether someone FEELS a certain way about another person. The only thing we can hope for is that people judge others as individuals and trust in the civil liberties protected in the Constitution, The Bill of Rights and the subsequent amendments. Treat others with respect. Peace out.

What difference does it make how many oil companies are drilling for oil, as long as there isn’t a monopoly? My point was that you don’t have to to buy from BP.

The profit motive drives businesses to serve the market. It’s mind-boggling to me that you think that any significant business (excluding clubs) could survive today by excluding customers based on race. They would be boycotted out of existence before you could say Jackie Robinson.

Does the freedom of association mean anything to you?

What difference does it make how many oil companies are drilling for oil, as long as there isn’t a monopoly? My point was that you don’t have to to buy from BP.

The profit motive drives businesses to serve the market. It’s mind-boggling to me that you think that any significant business (excluding clubs) could survive today by excluding customers based on race. They would be boycotted out of existence before you could say Jackie Robinson.

Does the freedom of association mean anything to you?

Sounds good to me. I don’t want to pay for terrible public schools and parasitic unions.

Sounds good to me. I don’t want to pay for terrible public schools and parasitic unions.

You know very well that almost no one would tolerate or frequent businesses that endorsed this type of behavior in this day and age, so what would it matter if a bigoted business person (white, black, asian, latino etc.) could out themselves. I’d at least know where NOT to shop and do business with. You’ve got to see the good and the bad that comes with FREEDOM.

You know very well that almost no one would tolerate or frequent businesses that endorsed this type of behavior in this day and age, so what would it matter if a bigoted business person (white, black, asian, latino etc.) could out themselves. I’d at least know where NOT to shop and do business with. You’ve got to see the good and the bad that comes with FREEDOM.

All of the examples you provided of the market overheating and misallocating capital, then going through a correction and collapsing, were fueld by an artificial credit boom created by the government or central bank of that time (loose monetary policy). The times of greatest growth and briefest recessions came during times when we had sound money and tight monetary policy.

Excuse me, but the laissez-faire free-market is what lifted the poor peasants from working in their huts and on their plots of lands for subsistence to the factories, where they earned wages and were finally able to save and improve their lives. The Free Market and investments in capital created the middle class in the first place. It’s what happened in Europe and the US and is happening now in Asia and anywhere else that people are allowed to keep the fruits of their labor.

All of the examples you provided of the market overheating and misallocating capital, then going through a correction and collapsing, were fueld by an artificial credit boom created by the government or central bank of that time (loose monetary policy). The times of greatest growth and briefest recessions came during times when we had sound money and tight monetary policy.

Excuse me, but the laissez-faire free-market is what lifted the poor peasants from working in their huts and on their plots of lands for subsistence to the factories, where they earned wages and were finally able to save and improve their lives. The Free Market and investments in capital created the middle class in the first place. It’s what happened in Europe and the US and is happening now in Asia and anywhere else that people are allowed to keep the fruits of their labor.

The government doesn’t grant you individual rights – they are inalienable and innate. If you have a grievance against BP, you should sue them for redress.

Humans share when it’s in their own self-interest to do so.

The government doesn’t grant you individual rights – they are inalienable and innate. If you have a grievance against BP, you should sue them for redress.

Humans share when it’s in their own self-interest to do so.

All your argument points out is that the state should get out of the business of licensing businesses, sidewalks, roads etc. We shouldn’t be forced to pay for that which we do not patron or support.

Private clubs that discriminate based on race benefit from those services as well.

All your argument points out is that the state should get out of the business of licensing businesses, sidewalks, roads etc. We shouldn’t be forced to pay for that which we do not patron or support.

Private clubs that discriminate based on race benefit from those services as well.

It’s spelled “course” and no, I don’t shop at Walmart, as there are none in this vicinity. I have never had the opportunity to boycott a company that discriminatees on race, though I would participate in such a boycott.

It’s spelled “course” and no, I don’t shop at Walmart, as there are none in this vicinity. I have never had the opportunity to boycott a company that discriminatees on race, though I would participate in such a boycott.

Your brilliant retorts are really impressive.

Your brilliant retorts are really impressive.

Thanks for stepping up to combat the loony left echo-chamber that is the majority of Raw Story’s audience.

Thanks for stepping up to combat the loony left echo-chamber that is the majority of Raw Story’s audience.

I think the smile indicates it was sarcasm.

I think the smile indicates it was sarcasm.

Since no slaves or slave-owners are alive, no one can be owed anything. Guilt and redress should only be conferred to individuals – not their children or grandchildren or great grandchildren. Enough of your collectivist BS – that’s so 15th century.

Since no slaves or slave-owners are alive, no one can be owed anything. Guilt and redress should only be conferred to individuals – not their children or grandchildren or great grandchildren. Enough of your collectivist BS – that’s so 15th century.

When the government wrecks the economy, desperate men must pursue desperate measures.

When the government wrecks the economy, desperate men must pursue desperate measures.

I sincerely hope you are not serious. If you are . You might consider a basic History Class. Not a NEOCON version

I sincerely hope you are not serious. If you are . You might consider a basic History Class. Not a NEOCON version

It’s called Discrimination

It’s called Discrimination

Name-calling does nothing to elevate your opinion. If you don’t think the federal government has a role in regulating business, then you believe that a restaurant shouldn’t be required to abide by health codes, or alert the public that they use peanut oil so people who are allergic can make an informed decision on whether to eat there; or that you oppose government pollution standards and regulating levels of arsenic in your water. I could go on, but it just seems to me that people who espouse this view love the benfits government provides but then decrie it when they don’t.

Name-calling does nothing to elevate your opinion. If you don’t think the federal government has a role in regulating business, then you believe that a restaurant shouldn’t be required to abide by health codes, or alert the public that they use peanut oil so people who are allergic can make an informed decision on whether to eat there; or that you oppose government pollution standards and regulating levels of arsenic in your water. I could go on, but it just seems to me that people who espouse this view love the benfits government provides but then decrie it when they don’t.

hat’s a Dress Code .Anyone can go in.
You are Spinning.

hat’s a Dress Code .Anyone can go in.
You are Spinning.

One addition, if Rant and his ilk repealed Title 2 of the Civil Rights Act, the NBA could close it’s doors to White people. Just sayin’.

One addition, if Rant and his ilk repealed Title 2 of the Civil Rights Act, the NBA could close it’s doors to White people. Just sayin’.

It’s a MONOPOLY
You are Spinning

It’s a MONOPOLY
You are Spinning

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That was Deregulation
You are spinning

That was Deregulation
You are spinning

Randall is a mess.

Randall is a mess.

Altruism is a lie. It’s used to get you to sacrifice your own welfare for those that would manipulate you.

Altruism is a lie. It’s used to get you to sacrifice your own welfare for those that would manipulate you.

The difference is this: if you are operating a business that caters to the public, you can’t pick and choose who you let in your doors. So, if, for example, you wanted to run a day care center out of your house, I don’t think you cold put up a sign saying “Whites Only.” If it’s just your house, the public accomodation statute of Title 2 of the Civil Rights Act doesen’t apply. I might be wrong on this, but I don’t think dso.

The difference is this: if you are operating a business that caters to the public, you can’t pick and choose who you let in your doors. So, if, for example, you wanted to run a day care center out of your house, I don’t think you cold put up a sign saying “Whites Only.” If it’s just your house, the public accomodation statute of Title 2 of the Civil Rights Act doesen’t apply. I might be wrong on this, but I don’t think dso.

Now you are back peddling
You Lose

Now you are back peddling
You Lose

I’m not spinning. I am writing plainly and I mean what I write. You just can’t deal with it. Enjoy your fantasy where the government can take care of you from beginning to end.

I’m not spinning. I am writing plainly and I mean what I write. You just can’t deal with it. Enjoy your fantasy where the government can take care of you from beginning to end.

How do you know ??

How do you know ??

P.S. Maybe if you had to have your child pee in a glass because he or she wasn’t allowed in a gas station rest room, you might understand.

P.S. Maybe if you had to have your child pee in a glass because he or she wasn’t allowed in a gas station rest room, you might understand.

Oh really.?
Go yell fire in a crowded movie

Oh really.?
Go yell fire in a crowded movie

That poster has no grip of History

That poster has no grip of History

Not so, I’ve nver heard of a business not allowing fat people into a restaurant. I know this because I see it all the time.

Not so, I’ve nver heard of a business not allowing fat people into a restaurant. I know this because I see it all the time.

FUCK OFF

FUCK OFF

I understand the distinction, but I think it’s superficial at best, and downright stupid. Private property should be private property – pure and simple. I don’t like the notion of a bureaucrat bossing business owners around.

I understand the distinction, but I think it’s superficial at best, and downright stupid. Private property should be private property – pure and simple. I don’t like the notion of a bureaucrat bossing business owners around.

FUCK OFF

FUCK OFF

Go soak your head.

Go soak your head.

I hit a nerve
LOL
Keep Spinning

I hit a nerve
LOL
Keep Spinning

Ron Paul HAS associated with racists… many of them. And it’s still a matter of contention whether or not he knew about some racist comments that appeared in his 1980′s newsletter The Ron Paul Survival Report with his name on it. He says the offending articles were ghostwritten for him and he knew nothing about them. But considering that his wife and his daughter were on the editorial staff I find that a bit hard to buy.
He talks so much about personal responsibility but then he doesn’t bother to find out what’s being printed with his name on it? Members of his family are part of the editorial publishing staff but they don’t proofread or apprise him of it?
Come on!
Back then he did associate with alot of overtly white nationalist organizations and persons… like the Council of Conservative Citizens, neo confederate groups…I’d even found a listing of an interview at The Political Cesspool ( a white supremacist radio show) …except then a few months later that archived interview disappeared.
I do give Ron Paul some credit. I think he has actually grown or matured as a politician… and his message and focus seems to be on issues that aren’t so immediately racially divisive as he realizes he reaches more people speaking about personal freedom, anti military interventionism and auditing or ending the Federal Reserve.
Nonetheless there is always going to be his past and what has formed his political career. And I can think of atleast a few pictures I’ve seen of him glad handing known racists and members of neo nazi organizations. Something that few other politicians have been caught at.

Ron Paul HAS associated with racists… many of them. And it’s still a matter of contention whether or not he knew about some racist comments that appeared in his 1980′s newsletter The Ron Paul Survival Report with his name on it. He says the offending articles were ghostwritten for him and he knew nothing about them. But considering that his wife and his daughter were on the editorial staff I find that a bit hard to buy.
He talks so much about personal responsibility but then he doesn’t bother to find out what’s being printed with his name on it? Members of his family are part of the editorial publishing staff but they don’t proofread or apprise him of it?
Come on!
Back then he did associate with alot of overtly white nationalist organizations and persons… like the Council of Conservative Citizens, neo confederate groups…I’d even found a listing of an interview at The Political Cesspool ( a white supremacist radio show) …except then a few months later that archived interview disappeared.
I do give Ron Paul some credit. I think he has actually grown or matured as a politician… and his message and focus seems to be on issues that aren’t so immediately racially divisive as he realizes he reaches more people speaking about personal freedom, anti military interventionism and auditing or ending the Federal Reserve.
Nonetheless there is always going to be his past and what has formed his political career. And I can think of atleast a few pictur