No. Just under a Republic that respresents all.

No. Just under a Republic that respresents all.

No. Just under a Republic that respresents all.

How about “Waaah!”, nobody likes me. (Including yer mom)

How about “Waaah!”, nobody likes me. (Including yer mom)

How about “Waaah!”, nobody likes me. (Including yer mom)

Where are all the Ethnic Cleansing lovers today? Only old Asshat is here.

Where are all the Ethnic Cleansing lovers today? Only old Asshat is here.

Where are all the Ethnic Cleansing lovers today? Only old Asshat is here.

Please, take a look at statistics before you claim we’ve entered a “Season of the Witch.” Modern culture has many times less violence than even several hundred years ago – especially against family members. We’ve become less violent as cultures as time has gone by. This is the effect of a stable civilization. Remember: the opposite of civilization isn’t anarchy or primitivism, it’s war.

Well we can still boycott Klanzona!

Good point by the way…

Well we can still boycott Klanzona!

Good point by the way…

Don’t worry…it won’t be long and we will be sending in Federal troops to enforce Federal law in Klanzona.

Looks like some rednecks may be sharing a cell with Big Bone Bubba soon. Hey Bubba…get out the Vaseline…fresh meat on the way!

Don’t worry…it won’t be long and we will be sending in Federal troops to enforce Federal law in Klanzona.

Looks like some rednecks may be sharing a cell with Big Bone Bubba soon. Hey Bubba…get out the Vaseline…fresh meat on the way!

Uh…well this American citizen lives in Australia (I got out of the Fascist States of America when Bush was in office) and its not crazy here. Our economy is good. Our Prime Minister apologized to the Aboriginal People, and we still have freedom and civil rights here.

I don’t think its the whole World going crazy…

Uh…well this American citizen lives in Australia (I got out of the Fascist States of America when Bush was in office) and its not crazy here. Our economy is good. Our Prime Minister apologized to the Aboriginal People, and we still have freedom and civil rights here.

I don’t think its the whole World going crazy…

Saxon revolt against non-white tyranny.

So she was audited one time in 20 years? And she's complaining why? Oh, because were all racists… of course.

As and American living in Australia…I know a thing or two about having an unusual accent. If I am not speaking, I look like the majority (White Australians) and no one suspects a thing, but when I speak I stick out like a sore thumb.

Instead of blaming me for everything America does (the Fascist States of America is not too popular here) to the World, they treat me like a star. They are kind and generous and polite.

Someday when I do come back home to the USA, remind me to avoid Klanzona.

As and American living in Australia…I know a thing or two about having an unusual accent. If I am not speaking, I look like the majority (White Australians) and no one suspects a thing, but when I speak I stick out like a sore thumb.

Instead of blaming me for everything America does (the Fascist States of America is not too popular here) to the World, they treat me like a star. They are kind and generous and polite.

Someday when I do come back home to the USA, remind me to avoid Klanzona.

White supremacist gasbag trolls news site with repetitive hate speech.

So Arnold would make the cut?

Aside from the fact that I'd like to treat this teacher to a romantic, candlelight breakfast, I'd like to say, “ARIZONA! SECEDE and take TEXAS with you!!!”

No but we do want Klanzona to obey Federal law.

Looks like we may need to send in the Federal Marshals…and maybe the US Army.

No but we do want Klanzona to obey Federal law.

Looks like we may need to send in the Federal Marshals…and maybe the US Army.

First they came for the Jews
But I wasn't Hebrew
So I did nothing…
Then they came for the …..

Boycott comments to O.A. so he doesn't get an orgasm off what he can usually stir up!

Actually in Arizona case it’s because they want to make the State of Arizona uncomfortable to people of hispanic origin, pure and simple. They took an inch and are now taking a mile, they and the state is acting like exactly as many have said, a backwoods ignorant ran state. I feel sorry for the next election for republicans in that state, because people will be voting them out. It’s almost as if Arizona’s governor and state officials are challenging Obama to get into this fight. People wonder why our society have so many wacko’s and crazies running around doing stuff, just look at the ones in charge of leading our govt. and/or in charge of how things work.

Take for example China, we have been seeing a rise in children being attacked by individuals (male all of them). In the US you are hearing fathers and/or boyfriends killing their significant other and their whole family (did you hear about the guy in New Zealand a few months back who found out he had aids and decided to infect his wife with a needle because he was afraid of her leaving him), etc. etc.. What we are seeing is the end result of policies and programs and lack of responsibility that many in our society and other societies have allowed to flourish to the point that it makes their people literally insane. In the case of China, most if not all the men in the attacks had inadequacies in finding women or a mate (can’t or couldn’t support them). With the one child policies in that country you have 100 million or more men that can’t find a woman. In the US it’s almost the same but not quite. Men who can’t provide or have lost the ability to provide or just the woman changes her mind and wants to leave or a divorce, feel like they are losing something that is “theirs”. Then you hear about them killing their wife/girlfriend, killing their whole family, killing everybody in the house in a post divorce or dump rage etc. etc.. We have been told that if your not doing this or don’t have that then your nothing.

It’s not the season of the witch, it’s the season of reality that is coming into being. The reality of the real world compared to the propaganda that has for decades been shoved down our throats. The world is changing and the old paradigms are eroding, and it’s scaring the ones in Arizona who think that hispanics will be the majority in the state. It’s scaring the chinese that they will have to think more out of the box and get their men to think about looking outside their country and/or race for love and companionship. And it scares men in the US that their woman is leaving them or might leave them so they attack with the old motto “if I can’t have you no one will”.

Actually in Arizona case it’s because they want to make the State of Arizona uncomfortable to people of hispanic origin, pure and simple. They took an inch and are now taking a mile, they and the state is acting like exactly as many have said, a backwoods ignorant ran state. I feel sorry for the next election for republicans in that state, because people will be voting them out. It’s almost as if Arizona’s governor and state officials are challenging Obama to get into this fight. People wonder why our society have so many wacko’s and crazies running around doing stuff, just look at the ones in charge of leading our govt. and/or in charge of how things work.

Take for example China, we have been seeing a rise in children being attacked by individuals (male all of them). In the US you are hearing fathers and/or boyfriends killing their significant other and their whole family (did you hear about the guy in New Zealand a few months back who found out he had aids and decided to infect his wife with a needle because he was afraid of her leaving him), etc. etc.. What we are seeing is the end result of policies and programs and lack of responsibility that many in our society and other societies have allowed to flourish to the point that it makes their people literally insane. In the case of China, most if not all the men in the attacks had inadequacies in finding women or a mate (can’t or couldn’t support them). With the one child policies in that country you have 100 million or more men that can’t find a woman. In the US it’s almost the same but not quite. Men who can’t provide or have lost the ability to provide or just the woman changes her mind and wants to leave or a divorce, feel like they are losing something that is “theirs”. Then you hear about them killing their wife/girlfriend, killing their whole family, killing everybody in the house in a post divorce or dump rage etc. etc.. We have been told that if your not doing this or don’t have that then your nothing.

It’s not the season of the witch, it’s the season of reality that is coming into being. The reality of the real world compared to the propaganda that has for decades been shoved down our throats. The world is changing and the old paradigms are eroding, and it’s scaring the ones in Arizona who think that hispanics will be the majority in the state. It’s scaring the chinese that they will have to think more out of the box and get their men to think about looking outside their country and/or race for love and companionship. And it scares men in the US that their woman is leaving them or might leave them so they attack with the old motto “if I can’t have you no one will”.

Cheney would not pass this test, he sounds like the PENGUIN from the old Batman tv series. and there goes Kissinger (thank the great moon Lord) and Gee Dubya Bee is most definatly NOT QUALIFIED in the ENGLISH language as he is the only US pResident with an entire series of books dedicated to correcting and translating his words of stupidity and it has spawned a new definable word in the lexicon: Bushism/Bushisms.

Wow, that is truly amazing. I think the entire state of Arizona has lost its mind. Must be something in the water.

Lou
http://www.complete-anonymity.at.tc

Typical racist crap. Pick on people for traits that are impossible to change (skin color, eye shape, hair texture) or very difficult to change (language, accent).

And make things that should be easy to change (immigration status) very difficult to change, just to dick with minorities even more.

I sympathize. As a native Texan, I’ve seen the same gigantic problem there. It more than irritates me to see so many illegals come in and ,basically, drive citizens out of entire categories of work,eg: construction.I have friends that cant get work, while illegals are hired at slave wages. Still, I am acquainted with several illegal workers in the state that I live in now, and I’ve always been impressed with their willingness to bear many hardships just to be here and work for their families in L America. I could never rat them out. Life is full of contradictions. While we need massive border security AND a pathway to legalization for those already here, as long as Mexico is an economic and social basketcase , the flood of illegals will continue unabated.Type your comment here.

I sympathize. As a native Texan, I’ve seen the same gigantic problem there. It more than irritates me to see so many illegals come in and ,basically, drive citizens out of entire categories of work,eg: construction.I have friends that cant get work, while illegals are hired at slave wages. Still, I am acquainted with several illegal workers in the state that I live in now, and I’ve always been impressed with their willingness to bear many hardships just to be here and work for their families in L America. I could never rat them out. Life is full of contradictions. While we need massive border security AND a pathway to legalization for those already here, as long as Mexico is an economic and social basketcase , the flood of illegals will continue unabated.Type your comment here.

How about W and his pronunciation of nuclear?

I hope they are getting rid of teachers who say “y'all” and “reckon”.

Right on brother!!!

We need to make an example of Klanzona

Right on brother!!!

We need to make an example of Klanzona

What a bunch of bullshit!
Back in 1976 when I was in the sixth grade, I had a teacher with a Slavic accent. He sounded like a freakin' Russian! Got his W's and V's backward, etc.
How the hell did we ever win the Cold War?!

“Founding Stock American”…so you’re a breeder eh?..lolz!..

“Founding Stock American”…so you’re a breeder eh?..lolz!..

You want to live under the tyranny of a Congress that represents every race but whites?

Sorry, I posted the same in haste, before reading the comments…

Sorry, I posted the same in haste, before reading the comments…

We are supposed to form a thought out of that list of words? How is this for being close: Gasbag libs troll for whites to slam as racist hate speechifying white supremacists.

Works for me!

Works for me!

Neither George W. Bush nor his father, GHW, could pronounce the most important word to the human race under their command – “NUCLEAR”

It's OK to be in position to destroy the earth, using weapons you cannot even pronounce, but not to teach English.

Got it!

I had a TA in college chemistry who was totally incomprehensible. he shouldn't have been there. Ditto languages. If a student learning English has a teacher who can't pronounce it, that teacher is unqualified to teach English. Ditto Spanish: someone who hasn't mastered the (relatively easy) pronunciation of Castellano shouldn't be teaching it.

Not all of us!

Not all of us!

What makes you yanks think you are speaking English properly?

What an arrogant asshole you are.

BOYCOTT KLANZONA NOW!!!

Nice. Every time I go to AL to visit the inlaws, I have a harder time understanding people than when I worked as a cook in restaurants. Talk about bad english.

No…you did not found America…you stole America from the Native Americans…after raping their women and butchering their children.

America belongs to all Americans — not just WASPS!

BOYCOTT KLANZONA NOW!!!!

“”…what matters is if my children are learning,” said Luis Tavarez.

Tsk-tsk! It's should read “…my children IS learning”. Idiot.

Hey don't hold the rest of us responsible for your inability to get an education.

“Yes I went to college and I learned to complain”

I am also an Arizonan and I don’t see any huge problems with illegal immigration. I do see a problem that is actually decreasing in border crossings. We have a huge problem with law enforcement not busting the employers who make it desirable to take the chances they take to cross the border in hopes of a better life in the US. The crime rates in Arizona have actually been going down contrary to what the Sheriff of Nuttingham, Joe Arpaio. would like people to believe.
The illegals get shaft by employers with low wages or no wages. They pay their sales taxes rarely seek government services out of fear of deportation, if they get a phony SSN, the money withheld eventually stays in the SSA coffers. Those responsible for these laws are doing two things, take the pressure off the failure of the Republican led Legislature to manage the state budget to the point of cutting education and social services to those at the bottom. That doesn’t bother them but the fact that we just had to pass a 1 cent / dollar
tax increase to keep the schools and law enforcement solvent was done during a Republican administration.

But Cheney and Bush are white, silly. The rules would never be used on them!

It's more than Arizona… The last couple of years has been weird throughout the global community. Look at the children who have been attacked in China, the large numbers of fathers killing their families in the US, social unrest breaking out all over the globe. I don't know what the reasons are, but have been referring to it as “The Season of the Witch” for lack of a better phrase that describes the sudden social climate that has been manifesting itself all over the globe.

Yeah, it sure was better for the eight long years of G.W. Bush when the borders were controlled or during Bush I when everything was quiet on the border and especially
during Reagan when he gave Amnesty to 4,000,000 illegals. Its only been since Obama that this is an issue…good conservatives know how to handle the issue.

I was a teacher at a high school in Houston. Because of the location, we had students from hundreds of countries so we had many, many English Language Learner classes, from beginner (no English) to advanced. There were teachers that were non-native speakers and American teachers. I will say that I had several students come to me complaining that the American teachers were not able to help them with questions. After talking to these teachers, they had a very close minded idea of how they should teach and how students learned. It was obvious that they had never had to learn another language and were extremely ethnocentric.

They should force the teachers that don't have a accent to learn a new one THEN speak it without an accent themselves. You'd see how quickly this would change.

The Chinese built a wall to keep out foreigners….did it work?????
The Germans built a wall to keep in the Germans inside the wall…did it work?
Just asking.

Well yeah….it is.

What if there were signs all over Germany…telling tourists they must speak German
to get fed etc? Americans would be up in arms! Opps were did that twice over there….and we still have bases there 65 years after the war.

What about the southern accents in the southern states. The grammer is terrible and the diction sounds like a stupid person. Stop those teachers also, if that is going to be a criteria for teaching.

This is not ethnic cleansing?

Meh, just give it all back to Mexico, it'd be funny.

If teachers can't speak grammatical English, this could be a problem. But an accent? Gib me a breyik!

I think you get the point fuckface.

Everybody just wants you to die because you're an annoying moron, are you really so dense, so pathetic, that you don't get it? Even neo-nazi's would find you annoying. Tell us about your religious beliefs Fallaci, lol.

I guess everyone – including the anchor lady – didn't hear what the superintendent said. It's pronunciation not accent, and out of 1500 evaluations only 25 teachers have been reassigned in 8 years. Much ado about nothing.

Good post, Laura. It goes to the heart of the matter. The whole notion of an “accent” is measuered against Standard American Dialect used by broadcasters, which is indeed an accent. I speak it, it comes from the Midwest. All “accents” are realtive to some standard. People in India would think I have an accent. It's silly to think that just because somebody has phonological differences in how they form their vowels and consonents, that by conclusion theyr'e less bright. It's really nonsense. If somebody is going to teach effectively, they should know and understand the dialectal qualities of their students, not to condemn them but so that they understand the nuance between formal (SAE) and informal speech. It's like if you want to have dinner with a client or dignitary you might say, “Have you eaten yet?” But if you want to have dinner with, say, your best friend, you might say, “Jeet yet?” People should revel in the beauty of speech. Hasta por hoy!

Is our children learning?” — GW Bush, idiot, Florence, S.C., Jan. 11, 2000

So, what will they do with those regular Arizonans who done been to college?

Do you have a “chillbilly” accent?

Go, AZ! I'm with you! I will be starting classes across the state, instructing whites on how to start their lawn mower; how to nurse their own little spunk-monkeys, and how to support a family on the wages of an undocumented person.
Guess Ms. McCain will have to go to the pharmacy to get her pain meds on her own!

I wonder if they'll crack down on shit-kicking southern twang accents.

So 1475 white teachers were passed and the 25 hispanics all failed? Right?

Arizona is and always has been a redneck state filled with undereducated white losers.

Immigrants don't take our jobs, Employers are giving them away to the lowest bidder.

it's more like tenderizing, the cleansing comes later…

Of course it isn't. Mexicans who speak English well and are dressed as if they don't do physical labor for a living should be all right. Unless a neighbor turns them in or they look really, really brown.

False, but not a surprising comment from a “dick”

You thought the illegal immigration bill was the last thing. You're probably thinking THIS is the last thing they're going to do. Just wait……..

Rand Paul should be AGAINST this…it's “public”!!! He's for “private” shop/store owners discriminating.

Next, you can't vote if you have an accent. Ah, now we're getting to where they really want to go.

I can only quote the bumper sticker on the back of my van..”for the love of god please rapture out now!”

Peyote for some and brain damaged regressives of the PEDRO CROW LAWS supporters who have inhaled too much RETHUGLICAN smoke screen

No she is not a dick…but I am.

I shoot straight with people. Arizona is a redneck state that is violating the civil rights of Hispanic Americans and thinks its ok to violate our Constitution and our laws. Its not. When we get your pathetic state government into court we are going to throw the book at you. This is already costing your state and its people billions…and this is just the beginning. If you are smart, you will move now or you will live in one of the poorest states in the Union.

…but I for one hope you stay there you NAZI pig-girl!

That’s not counting the Navajo, Hopi, and Apache people who also live there, and must tolerate these ignorant Neanderthals.

To teach is to learn twice. I got that in a fortune cookie. really opened my thinking up.

In order to teach, you must also learn to listen first.

BOYCOTT ARIZONA

Removing teachers who don't speak proper English to people learning English is actually pro-immigrant.

Give it back to the Indians. They had it first.

Do you want Arnold Schwarzenegger to teach English to your child?

WTH? What's next people with brown eyes, or maybe their cars are lowered to much… eat burritos for lunch, have dark hair?
This State has gone off the DEEP end of the POOL of LIFE.
Farewell Arizo-tinia

“I don't gotta the accident….YOU gotta the accident!”

So arrest the law-breaking employers and prosecute them to the full extent of the law. End of problem. It totally amazes me how white Americans continue to hold the law-breaking employers blameless in all of this.

Right, they just distract the sheeple with illegal wars while they rape and pillage the middle class.

Brilliant.

LOL!

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ARIZONA LEGISLATURE VOTES ON BILL TO CHANGE STATE NAME TO “ARYANZONA”
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The Arizona State University Math Department is f*cked!

So this is what happens when racist take office.

I am an Arizonan. I drink bottled water. We have huge problems here with illegal immigration. This law does nothing to solve any of those problems. It is a shame that the federal government has left it up to the rednecks to find solutions. The rednecks decided to give themselves the power to enforce federal law. This law mimics federal law. It is not the law so much that bothers me….it will be turned over….it is the fact that we have still done NOTHING to control immigration.

Wait, does that mean that if I, who has a extremely heavy Boston accent were to teach in Arizona that I would be subject to this law?
I mean I do speak differently than others do in this country, I drop R's left & right, everythingh as an “ah” on the end, I drop G's off words, those are just a few examples of how my accent would impact my communication with students so maybe it's not just foreign teahcers who would be impacted by this law.
discuss!

And that statement is as ignorant as Tom Horne. The reaction to the nativist legislation has been strong in southern AZ and in other parts of the state. The nativist agenda is driven by right-wingers in Maricopa County which includes much of the population of the state. They have made a disaster of the state budget while legalizing sparklers and concealed weapons. on the other hand, a number of cities (including ours, Bisbee) have condemned SB1070 and Pima County)Tucson and vicinity) Sheriff Clarence Dupnik has declared that he believes the law (SB 1070) to be illegal and he does not intend to enforce it. Tom Horne is running for attorney general so he has to be a tough guy. He is, for the most part, a posturing political opportunist. How would Albert Einstein or Henry Kissinger rated by this stupid law???

Sounds like a failure to launch. What he hell! Teachers teaching classes that don't know how to form or use proper English grammar. Accent problems means you have to learn to read lips and or state “say that again, please”.

Sounds like Arizona is hard up for qualified teachers.
I suppose Arizona could come up with a new language call it BorderSpeak and make everyone happy.
What's that old cliche'? When in Rome———

What's next a ban on tacos, burritos, tamales and anything else that associated with the Hispanic community. Jesus Christ, just go ahead and stick your “whites only” signs up across your state and stop beating around the bush.

Well, well I should have watched he video first. The Librofascists have misrepresented the intent of the teacher examination. The check is for proper pronunciation and use of grammar. Not one race category is targeted. The report is an absolute sham; one of the best examples of shoddy, biased journalism. But, it would be considered a masterpiece for FOX NEWS.
Fair and balanced my ———

In other countries, many non-native speakers of English teach EFL to students, and that's fine. We have non-native Spanish speakers here who teach Spanish, non-francophones who teach French, etc. and that's fine. HOWEVER, when students come to an ENGLISH-speaking country (USA, Canada, Australia, UK) they should expect to be taught by a native speaker of English (any pronunciation as along it is from someone who speaks English as a native!

Heavy accents? Um… I wonder if a Swedish certified HS teacher were to apply for a job and asks: “Vie iz dare mo azzez dan dare iz azzez un Aireezona?”

What about Mike Huckabee speaking in hillbilly, or Sarah Palin's pseudo-Fargo speak, and god-forbid if Henry Kissinger shows up somewhere as a guest lecturer.

American accent is the worse english accent on the english speaking world.

This is just a xenophobic nuance of a Facist State of an empire on decline…

By the way… thse people who are judging other people's accent, do they speak any other language? How many?

Sparklers?????!!!!

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well Klanzona…heh…there you go again…

Folks please don't visit Klanzona and Please boycott any goods or services that benefit Klanzona. Let's cut off all the money.

How about if you are Indian with a very thick accent and a radiologist they leave you alone because you are a “doctor”, but if you are a truck driver with the same accent then you must be a terrorist…bunch of boloney. Boycott those losers!

“It doesn't matter to me what the accent is; what matters is if my children are learning,” said Luis Tavarez, the parent of sixth- and eighth-graders at Creighton.

This is a prime example of a buffoon not speaking correct American.

I believe GW Bush was phrase it correctly when he asked, “Is our children learning”?

He is posting the same old shit over and over. Must be low on meds.

Excellent point mate. Yes, Klanzona is engaged in ethnic cleansing.

I keep reminding you that, you have African DNA. The white race is a minority. Always has been. If “Johnny and Edgar Winter” let you play in their band, you would be the “black” dude.

He’s still looking for it.

Yeah well here is another old saying…”when in the USA…obey our Federal laws against discrimination or we will send in Federal Marshalls to enforce the law.

…and if that is not enough…we will send in the Army.

…….and “Error-Zona”, “New Mexico”, “Utah”, “California”, “Texas” , all stole their land from Mexico.

“Gatorade”!

……..”good conservatives know how to handle the issue”.

The tories brought it up as a “wedge” issue and will use it to disenfranchise 200,000 voters. The same asswipes “buried” the mortgage, bank and wall street bull shit so it would raise its head after shrub left.

You are absolutely correct mate.

In Australia, where this American lives, they laugh at the FSA (Fascist States of America) and call us illiterate…and rightly so.

Bottled water is often less safe than tap water or is simply tap water sitting in off gassing plastic bottles. Instead consider a filter on your tap water, why pay for water when it is no safer than tap and contributes to wasted plastic that ends up everywhere? Consider boycotting bottled water. Water should be free and clean and paying for it in a Logo-ed plastic bottle by a soft drink company doesn’t ensure it to be cleaner than municipal tested water. It’s sad when consumers trust Coca Cola to have cleaner water than the public water supply. Then again people drink that nasty (in my opinion) probably not so healthy diet soda. Research this upsetting issue of corporate water.

we can see why his breed is dying out…

Go back to Yale.

This is just disgusting…Arizona is an embarrassmant to the rest of the union… Mediocre, ignorant and plain out retrograde redneck! What a disgrace to our country that state is. Yuck.

But at least we know how to spell grammar, hick.

Where were these conservatives when their glorious Commander in Codpiece was pronouncing “Nuclear” wrong? If he can't even pronounce it, how can he possibly understand the underlying physics?

That means nobody from KY, TN, GA, Fl, LA, MS, the Carolina's, VA WV, MA, ME, NH and so on will not be able to teach here in AZ either. No Valley Girls or anyone the uses the term (goes) in the place of says either. Most Arizonans speak “Spanglish” and wouldn't notice anyway.

Well, as an American living in Australia — yes I have dual citizenship, born American, naturalized Australian — I would like to point out that you do not speak for Australia nor do you seem to know very much about our approach to immigrants and the English language.

We protect our immigrants from discrimination, and in Australia immigrants have the RIGHT to speak their native language — in all forums. We do not punish people for their accents or dialects…even Americans are protected here.

Oh by the way, we are laughing at America.

I often wonder if my fellow Americans have any idea of how they look to the rest of the World right now.

BOYCOTT KLANZONA!!

You don't mix with real people much, do you?

They did it. Arizona managed to turn their clock back to the 1950's.
I guess they'll ban race mixing music next.

What makes you think yanks know how to speak proper English.

Its “Tyre” not tire. Its “Harbour” not harbor. …and so many other examples of how the yanks butcher the English language…

If you yanks want people to speak proper English, I recommend you learn to speak it properly first.

This would mean that teachers from FL, GA, LA, MS, TN, KY, WV, VA, both of the Carolinas , NY
NJ, MA, ME, NH, ND, and others couldn't teach English here either, That list would have to include any “Valley Girls” and anyone who uses the word “goes” to mean says as well. It really wouldn't matter much because most Arizonans speak “Spanglish”.

When even 1 American citizen is a victim of fascism and/or discrimination…all Americans suffer.

BOYCOTT KLANZONA NOW!!!!

When even 1 American citizen is a victim of fascism and/or discrimination…all Americans suffer.

BOYCOTT KLANZONA NOW!!!!

Well put. Americans think they should make 2X minimum wage without the help of a union ffs.

This is a joke, right? “What matters” is singular: you wouldn't use “are”, but “is”. “Our children”, the subject in the second sentence, is plural.

….”was phrase”?

This must be a joke. It must be.

(P.S. I am a son of Latin American immigrants and was an English teacher. I speak in a primarily non-regional accent with extremely slight Northeastern dialect.)

Well the next step is to tattoo all mexican nationals as undocumented or a case no.
like the Germans did to the jews.

Yesus Christ! The sad state of Arizona will here-to-fore be referred to as “Arizonazi.”

I once had a physics professor who was Indian, and I couldn't understand a word he was saying. Teachers should be understood. It takes too much effort to try to unravel the words spoken with a heavy accent. Mr. Gupta use to talk about a rrrroad. It was not until several classes later, that I realized he was talking about a rod.

“Christina Parsons was born in Brazile” <—-

This article is the definition of its own argument.

What's next ?

SPEECH IMPEDIMENTS ?!

Yes, but it's contextual. If you read the story you note that these are largely bilingual teachers, with English as a second language teaching, surprise, largely Hispanic children. I'm quite certain that the kids can understand what the hell is being said.

Don't forget this nugget “This is a prime example of a buffoon not speaking correct American….I believe GW Bush was phrase it correctly”…

What does “was phrase it” mean?

Don't forget this nugget “This is a prime example of a buffoon not speaking correct American….I believe GW Bush was phrase it correctly”…

What does “was phrase it” mean?

'CNN anchor Kyra Phillips disagrees with the new policy. “Would a guy like the Governor of California be allowed to teach kids how to learn English? Arnold's Austrian accent is as thick as his biceps but his English seems to be just fine,” remarked Phillips.” '

Why in the world would we care what a CNN “anchor” thinks? When did the role of news “anchors” change from being indifferent reporters of news events to opinionated yet unqualified pundits? I've been trying to figure this out for years.

Re: Dolly Lanna – that fact that you can write a comment, even if you cannot spell, “grammar” properly, means you need to thank the teachers who taught you. Regional accents abound in our country and are part of our strength. If you want to protest, write the media and comment on the fact that newscasters have made our language imprecise and flawed, dumbing down English to its lowest point. Most Southern people, of which I am one, speak excellent English. It is true that some areas speak a form closer to Elizabethan English, but it is still English. Arizona is refusing to face the fact that in a few years, white Anglo-Saxon Protestant Americans will be in the minority. It might be nice to think that the ones Arizona is persecuting would remember us with fondness and not the hatred Arizona is showing them. We ALL, even Native Americans, come from other countries. Most us us have ancestors who would have been kept out by this law.

Arizona and Texas should be given back to Mexico and all the white Christians should be transferred to Alaska, so they can keep an eye out for the bad Russians and send everyone with a foreign accent to China. The people who are in power in both States are beyond redemption. They are so narrow minded and egotistical that no self respecting God would want to receive those people if their would be an after live.Even their God cannot be so stupid.

No. They should give Arizona back to the Indians and send all the whites to Somalia, the Libertarian capital of the world, where absolute freedom reigns. No government interference because there's no government. It's a Libertarian paradise.

Texas hasn't walked their talk about seceding from the U.S….
It's time we all encourage them to do so for the benefit of everyone.

This is very ridiculous. Everywhere around the country there are accents. This is racist. How are they being able to do this… These guys must've formed some sort of band with the state to get more funding and they were told to turn up the burners on the hispanic heritage.
Guess I should pray for the best thing to happen, I suggest some of you folk to also.

I hope that they fire any bloody rotters with British accents too.
Hell, those people don't even drive on the right side of the road.
Damn un-Americkun if ya ask me.

Does this mean that people from Mississippi, Georgia, and Alabama can't teach in Arizona? I once worked with a woman who lived with her military husband and their 3 children in the very south South. She moved back to Maine after her oldest child came home from school, excited to recite the alphabet for Mom. You know, a, b, c, d, e, ayef…

Hey, so finally they're going to arrest accentually-challenged warcriminal Henry Kissinger?

w00t!

All it took was one black president to bring all the Kluxers
back up from their graves.

Sent those rednecks back to their native countries. Native indians are the only ones that have a natural right to this place. Otherwise, everyone else is an immigrant, and Mexicans have a common history with the natives. So, there, ya racists bastards.

We need more of what you see as ‘redneck’ states. What is costing the state billions are the illegals.
Where is the new law violating the civil rights of illegals?? Are you like the idiot politicians who didn’t read the bill?? Most Americans are fed up with liberal policies going too far and are fina;;y speaking up.
Seeing illegals march for their ‘rights’ pi**ed off many, many Americans, the majority of by the way favor sending illegals back….the more they DEMAND things from us the mader we get.
Let them go fix Mexico…we don’t need their opinions here.
Have you seen videos of the Sonoran desert along the routes these people take, miles and miles of garbage, feces, diapers, ect….that is their welcome to the country.
America is finally waking up!!

We need more of what you see as ‘redneck’ states. What is costing the state billions are the illegals.
Where is the new law violating the civil rights of illegals?? Are you like the idiot politicians who didn’t read the bill?? Most Americans are fed up with liberal policies going too far and are fina;;y speaking up.
Seeing illegals march for their ‘rights’ pi**ed off many, many Americans, the majority of by the way favor sending illegals back….the more they DEMAND things from us the mader we get.
Let them go fix Mexico…we don’t need their opinions here.
Have you seen videos of the Sonoran desert along the routes these people take, miles and miles of garbage, feces, diapers, ect….that is their welcome to the country.
America is finally waking up!!

Arizona, and it's officials, are completely out of their mind. Can we give it away with Texas? Teachers shouldn't continue to work in classes for non-native English speakers.

I have a question…

If I was pulled over and the cop asks me for proof that I am an American citizen or immigration papers showing I have the right to be in the United States…

…and I say “I do not want to answer any questions”

…will I be arrested?

The reason I ask is because…under the 5th Amendment, I do not have to answer any questions and under the 5th Amendment I can't be arrested or punished in any way for refusing to answer questions.

I don’t think we make gatorade any more. Chickens!

I don’t think we make gatorade any more. Chickens!

Smallbear, I would love to sit and talk with you. Seriously. If I could, I would give it back to the Indians. To care for. To nuture. We white folk are an arrogant bunch of yahoos. Have you ever seen the move, “Last of the Dogmen”? It is one of my favorite. If only there were such a place — I would try to find it. I cry. Our planet, Mother Earth, was so beautiful. Is still beautiful. But not much longer. And we deserve to lose it. We have tortured her.

Smallbear, I would love to sit and talk with you. Seriously. If I could, I would give it back to the Indians. To care for. To nuture. We white folk are an arrogant bunch of yahoos. Have you ever seen the move, “Last of the Dogmen”? It is one of my favorite. If only there were such a place — I would try to find it. I cry. Our planet, Mother Earth, was so beautiful. Is still beautiful. But not much longer. And we deserve to lose it. We have tortured her.

They are not teaching students to speak correctly. My own grandfather spoke with a heavy accent. He wanted all of his children to be taught proper English. He took pride in the fact that his children looked and spoke like Americans. He also taught his children that America was the land of oppurtunity and one that should be appreciated. He was proud of his heritage but he became a loyal and dedicated citizen of the United States.

They are not teaching students to speak correctly. My own grandfather spoke with a heavy accent. He wanted all of his children to be taught proper English. He took pride in the fact that his children looked and spoke like Americans. He also taught his children that America was the land of oppurtunity and one that should be appreciated. He was proud of his heritage but he became a loyal and dedicated citizen of the United States.

Hey Markov, be careful there, you are engaging in racial profiling. White people are not a race, they represent the will of the one true god, the maker of all rules and regulations, the One True Xenophobic.

Hey Markov, be careful there, you are engaging in racial profiling. White people are not a race, they represent the will of the one true god, the maker of all rules and regulations, the One True Xenophobic.

Boycott something that will have an immediate impact – rednecks. They are in every neighborhood and have their own media empire – Fox News.

Boycott something that will have an immediate impact – rednecks. They are in every neighborhood and have their own media empire – Fox News.

Bob, you are referring to the nasal diphthong an archaic linguistic tonal permutation from the Middle Ages. These people were driven from Europe in the fifteenth century and bred like rabbits in the New World.

What liberal policy. There was nothing done about “illegals” under the bush regime. And it is racial because they aren’t targeting all illegals-Irish, British, Swedish-all whites.

Amen to that!

How true!

unless you can “walk” across the atlantic ocean you must take a boat,or plane. in either case you need a passport to board! this makes them legal. another case of “open mouth,insert dumb ass foot”

Wow thats telling them boycott Fox News, god I wish I had thought of that one , boy you should contribute more comments to this page , you have such an insight into the problem.
So tell us BUTTMONKEY are you a Marxist, Commie , Maoist or just an a___hole

please do,go home and dont come back,not even on vacation! we all dont want you all here at all!

hey paddles57, once you get back up north if your still not satisfied with this country just keep on going and become an illegal in canada. you can walk there from here.

Neither could Jimmy Carter.

Michele, you’re a caricature. By the way, the internet wasn’t spontaneously spawned from the womb of Mother Earth. You should get off of this vile, man-made media and do something productive, like planting a tree.

when we see that ONE true GOD our jaws will drop like a door that lost it’s hinge he never preached colour because he said I am dark and comely what kind of humans were there before the plague do we want to go back there the great one true GOD left us with one commandment LOVE thy neighbour as thy self and the great one is GOD not god there are many of those.

What does any of this have to do with teachers rights being trampled on, because off their accents!

Essentially Mexican/Hispanics are the new blacks. It’s even now there are place; esp. in the south; where a person of color is not welcomed in an area. Or you a mixed couple is looked upon unfairly for wanting to be happy. Why when there are discussion like this can people not remember where we came from. EVERY BLOODLINE in the great country comes from people wanting a better life or seeking something more the ordinary.
Illegals are not the only ones costing this country money. There are lowlifes who would rather sell their food stamps for money to buy drugs. We have people who have no vehicle insurance causing accidents and causing me to still have to pay to make my vehicle work again. We waste money or pork barrel projects, to pay for lavish retirement payout to senators. We are a wasteful country…Point Blank! And I am not trying to say I haven’t been wasteful in my lifetime either.
We together make this country dirty. I don’t know how many times I watch people just dump their used trash and don’t care about it. There are people who willing dump animals along the road side hoping it will become someone else’s problem.
This issue brought up is about educating our children in this country. And I get them saying well if a person is trying to learn English, having an accent can deter the child from learning the correct pronunciation. But, to counter that, most of my life I was raised by some member in my family with thick Korean accents and I speak English perfectly. I have had teachers from the south; north from different countries and it did not inhibit my ability to learn to speak properly. Another issue; now let’s get down to it; is the ability of any teacher (if this really is the truth) to speak English properly all the time. And let’s be real people; who always speak proper English 24/7/365? It is a sad situation, that with all that’s going on it seems as if the state is on a witch hunt. But they want to do right; they just might be going about it the wrong way.
The reality is everyone illegal or citizen jacks this country up!! While there are citizens and illegal’s doing all they can to make it right!

Pure Nonsense!!!!!…..this speaks volumes that the new recently anacted law got nothing to do with seeking security for the state of Arizona,rather is an effort by shameless bigots to discriminate against those who are not like 'them'. What does accent got to do with anything? By the way,its an accent according to what? Whats the perfect benchmark that should be employed/used to gauge whether one is speaking perfect English? The proponents of this racist,bigoted law should be subjected to English exams the said teachers did. I bet most of these so called leaders have terrible grammar and will not even pass a sixth grade exam.I suppose,the bigots should also roll out the standard against which any one person can at least check against especially if they are willing to apply for a teaching job in Arizona.

Yes, that is sage advice. I was a university professor for 15 years and I couldn’t agree more.

Thank You, best comment i’ve seen today!

Good point.

Yep you are fine one to speak….your statement just proves the hypocrisy of the idiots here that have no clue of what is in the law or even care just to bash a group of people that your dumb ass has no clue about….to bad all the posts against AZ and its enforcing of the law is strictly ideological and left wing based… ignorant hypocrits

Neither could Jimmy Carter and he was a Nuclear Physisist

My vote is azzhole…

Everyone needs to wake up and take a history/anthropology class.

1) Native Americans did NOT ‘displace even earlier arrivals’ as they were the FIRST! Now, you can argue that there were multiple ‘waves’ of peoples coming to the American continents, but its unclear if any of them ‘displaced’ already settled inhabitants from the ‘first’ wave or simply ‘passed through’ to other parts of North, Central and South America (as we call them today).

2) Europeans (English, French, and Spanish being the main players initially) DID DISPLACE NATIVE AMERICANS when they arrived initially without incident (from what we know of historical records), but then violently through warfare and non-violently through disease. We also ‘displaced’ French and Spanish claims on land that is now formally part of the USA. All the others had as much initial ‘sovereignty’ as the next, but we just fought and killed more of them than they did ‘us’.

Why do ‘illegal immigrants’ come to the US? Because many are literally ‘dirt poor’. They come here because living in the US is better than living on the edge of survival. If YOU were in a similar straight YOU TOO would go to the nearest place you could to escape the desperate poverty to either live and/or send money home to your family.

I’m all for ‘legal immigration’, but we have no sane policy for that right now. And while I may objectively like everyone to ‘play by the rules’ I also understand that desperate people will do what they must to survive. Maybe if we had some sane immigration policy. Maybe if all the corporations that hire illegal immigrants could only do so if they provided a ‘path towards citizenship’, maybe if they payed a living wage instead of a wage that only someone from a dirt poor foreign country would take because its exponentially better than what they could earn at home legally without being involved in the drug trade or prostitution, then maybe we could solve the immigration problem.

Think about that for a while before you blather on.

Oh yes, the colonists were welcome in many places, until they started killing natives. Seriously, read some history books and stop spouting ignorant crap.

You need to read David Lynch’s comment above. There are many Americans with thick heavy accents who would not ‘pass’ in AZ as teachers. Lets take the Boston area, for example. I’m sure there are many excellent English teachers who consistently drop their ‘r’s because that is the local accent. Should we fire them too? And when you say the word ‘aunt’ do you say ‘ant’? Who about ‘wash’; is it pronounced ‘wersh’? The ‘ridiculous crap’ that is making headlines is because it is ridiculous crap to be certifying teachers because of their accent!

The Japs?

I agree, look where Terry Nichols was hiding before he bombed Oklahoma, nothing but trailer park trash, the whole state is like that,

I believe that you have missed the point! Throughout this great land many cultures and races have come to make the United States what it is today. Diversity is what makes us such an attractive place to visit, live, raise a family, and so on.
If this debate had been carried out in eastern United States schools would we be having the same conversation?
Culture and language are at the root of self-identification. I certainly cannot believe that “we” want everyone to look the same, talk the same, and think the same.
If we are talking about improving our schools I believe that we have to start by involving families and communities. Schools are not daycares but are often time used as such.
Students are not held accountable for their learning parents expect that their children recieve good grades.
As an educator it is going to take much more than “tink” to derail a child’s success in the classroom.

If we deported people in this country for speaking poor English, you’d have been gone long ago.

One stray incident doesn’t make it the norm. There was recently a story about a man who lied to get a high up job in the military. That doesn’t mean that all military personel lie. A university that is doing its job will do the right background checks on students.

Not true, descendents of Native Americans and the indiginous people of Alaska ARE native inhabitants. Putting that aside, yes immigration made this country, but – as a previous poster said – it was LEGAL immigration. When the Italians, Spanish, Eastern European folks came over, they were registered. Remember a little place called Ellis Island? If you want the rights and priveleges of this country, you be willing to accept the RESPONSIBILITY of becoming a LEGAL citizen. That means paying taxes, voting to start. I live in Texas, so we have a similar issue as with Arizona. When I go to the grocery store and my cashier can’t communicate with me is I ask a question because she cannot speak ANY English, I see a problem. Or I cannot give basic instructions to our landscaper at work without a translator. I used to work at a hospital, and I can’t tell you how many medical bills we wrote off because of illegal immigration. Sad. I’m all for embracing cultures and welcoming the destitute, but if you care about this country, take the pride in becoming a citizen.

Oh, and for all of you saying our Founding Fathers were immigrants. Yes, they were. But, they saw the importance of setting up a government to ensure the rights and liberties were protected. I pay taxes, I vote. How many of those protesting can say the same? Not discriminating, just saying. Funny how people want to go self-righteous and argue for rights when you are breaking federal law.

And, I am not Christian. However, one of the TEN COMMANDMENTS states “Thou shalt not bear false testimony.” How is being in this country illegally, breaking the law different than lying?

R U serious and stupid too?

Sorry Jane, but define “heavily accented”. We all have a heavy accent – every single one of us. I am English so according to you I should not be allowed to teach (my own) language in the U.S. Maybe you mean a minority accent – because let’s face it everyone who deviates from the majority must be bad and unamerican. Maybe you mean a white accent – which is only the majority one because we ethnically cleansed the original inhabitants.

Sorry Jane, but define “heavily accented”. We all have a heavy accent – every single one of us. I am English so according to you I should not be allowed to teach (my own) language in the U.S. Maybe you mean a minority accent – because let’s face it everyone who deviates from the majority must be bad and unamerican. Maybe you mean a white accent – which is only the majority one because we ethnically cleansed the original inhabitants.

Sorry Jane, but define “heavily accented”. We all have a heavy accent – every single one of us. I am English so according to you I should not be allowed to teach (my own) language in the U.S. Maybe you mean a minority accent – because let’s face it everyone who deviates from the majority must be bad and unamerican. Maybe you mean a white accent – which is only the majority one because we ethnically cleansed the original inhabitants.

Your spelling, grammar, and puncutation are lacking. Oh wait, it’s probably not your fault. You were probably taught by someone with an accent. While I agree that we need to take action on illegal immigration, I do not believe anyone should be punished for having an accent. Does this mean that someone from New York or New Jersey can’t teach in Arizona? What about someone from Arizona going to teach in Louisiana? Is that how far we have come in the U.S.? Dialects and accents are different from state to state. How do we determine how far is too far?

Your spelling, grammar, and puncutation are lacking. Oh wait, it’s probably not your fault. You were probably taught by someone with an accent. While I agree that we need to take action on illegal immigration, I do not believe anyone should be punished for having an accent. Does this mean that someone from New York or New Jersey can’t teach in Arizona? What about someone from Arizona going to teach in Louisiana? Is that how far we have come in the U.S.? Dialects and accents are different from state to state. How do we determine how far is too far?

Your spelling, grammar, and puncutation are lacking. Oh wait, it’s probably not your fault. You were probably taught by someone with an accent. While I agree that we need to take action on illegal immigration, I do not believe anyone should be punished for having an accent. Does this mean that someone from New York or New Jersey can’t teach in Arizona? What about someone from Arizona going to teach in Louisiana? Is that how far we have come in the U.S.? Dialects and accents are different from state to state. How do we determine how far is too far?

The English language is not the same as the American language. Americans pronounce their vowels completely different. In American, we say “howss” for house. In English, all the vowels are pronounced–”ho-ew-ss”. So, would a teacher from England also be fired because she doesn't speak American? Arizona is showing the rest of the country just why American arrogance isn't a good thing.

Some people don’t have the means to do what your family did, though. To some, who have starving families, an illegal trip across the border is worth it. My family is Asian and here legally as well. We speak English at home too. I agree that people should try to take legal routes to get here, but that isn’t always possible. My issue is with taking teachers out of classrooms because they have an accent. I teach minority students, and the reason I can get so much out of them is because we share being a minority, and can all speak in their language when needed. Minority teachers connect with minority students. To take a good teacher out of a classroom because you disagree with the way they pronounce words is ridiculous.

Some people don’t have the means to do what your family did, though. To some, who have starving families, an illegal trip across the border is worth it. My family is Asian and here legally as well. We speak English at home too. I agree that people should try to take legal routes to get here, but that isn’t always possible. My issue is with taking teachers out of classrooms because they have an accent. I teach minority students, and the reason I can get so much out of them is because we share being a minority, and can all speak in their language when needed. Minority teachers connect with minority students. To take a good teacher out of a classroom because you disagree with the way they pronounce words is ridiculous.

Some people don’t have the means to do what your family did, though. To some, who have starving families, an illegal trip across the border is worth it. My family is Asian and here legally as well. We speak English at home too. I agree that people should try to take legal routes to get here, but that isn’t always possible. My issue is with taking teachers out of classrooms because they have an accent. I teach minority students, and the reason I can get so much out of them is because we share being a minority, and can all speak in their language when needed. Minority teachers connect with minority students. To take a good teacher out of a classroom because you disagree with the way they pronounce words is ridiculous.

Constitutional rights? If you are here illegally, you are not entitled to our government’s liberties. Sorry. Get legalized, pay your taxes and then you can claim any of the Constitution’s protection you want.

Constitution also states you have to pay taxes. You plan on advocating all the illegal immigrants start dropping their cash on the IRS doorstep? Thought not

Here’s another thought. the Constitution also lays out a detailed election process. If you are a registered voter, you can participate in that process and DO something about our governemnt instead of yelling and crying on TV about how unfairly you are being treated. I think it’s unfair I have to learn Spanish or quit my job because there has been a boom of Spanish-speaking individuals move into the neighborhood. But you’re right, we’re being unjust to the folks living here illegaly, driving without auto insurance, using Medicaid or stiffing hospitals so they have to eat medical bills. Bad us *sarcasm*

Constitutional rights? If you are here illegally, you are not entitled to our government’s liberties. Sorry. Get legalized, pay your taxes and then you can claim any of the Constitution’s protection you want.

Constitution also states you have to pay taxes. You plan on advocating all the illegal immigrants start dropping their cash on the IRS doorstep? Thought not

Here’s another thought. the Constitution also lays out a detailed election process. If you are a registered voter, you can participate in that process and DO something about our governemnt instead of yelling and crying on TV about how unfairly you are being treated. I think it’s unfair I have to learn Spanish or quit my job because there has been a boom of Spanish-speaking individuals move into the neighborhood. But you’re right, we’re being unjust to the folks living here illegaly, driving without auto insurance, using Medicaid or stiffing hospitals so they have to eat medical bills. Bad us *sarcasm*

Constitutional rights? If you are here illegally, you are not entitled to our government’s liberties. Sorry. Get legalized, pay your taxes and then you can claim any of the Constitution’s protection you want.

Constitution also states you have to pay taxes. You plan on advocating all the illegal immigrants start dropping their cash on the IRS doorstep? Thought not

Here’s another thought. the Constitution also lays out a detailed election process. If you are a registered voter, you can participate in that process and DO something about our governemnt instead of yelling and crying on TV about how unfairly you are being treated. I think it’s unfair I have to learn Spanish or quit my job because there has been a boom of Spanish-speaking individuals move into the neighborhood. But you’re right, we’re being unjust to the folks living here illegaly, driving without auto insurance, using Medicaid or stiffing hospitals so they have to eat medical bills. Bad us *sarcasm*

The Ten Commandments are for religion. In this country, much to the dismay of Texas, we have separation of church and state.

And yes, Native Americans DID migrate here. They had to cross a land bridge to get here. Once in North America, they migrated across the continent and settled there. Granted, it was a long time ago, but the point is that they migrated as well.

You are kidding yourself if you think all the people who came to America came through Ellis Island, and came through legally. Go back past the Progressive Era when there was no Ellis Island. People came here for religious freedom, for profit, or were forced to come as slaves.

Like I said before, I don’t think people should come over illegally, but if that is there only choice, then come over. After all, the Statue of Liberty says “Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breath free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!” Notice the lack of the sentence “as long as they have papers”.

The Ten Commandments are for religion. In this country, much to the dismay of Texas, we have separation of church and state.

And yes, Native Americans DID migrate here. They had to cross a land bridge to get here. Once in North America, they migrated across the continent and settled there. Granted, it was a long time ago, but the point is that they migrated as well.

You are kidding yourself if you think all the people who came to America came through Ellis Island, and came through legally. Go back past the Progressive Era when there was no Ellis Island. People came here for religious freedom, for profit, or were forced to come as slaves.

Like I said before, I don’t think people should come over illegally, but if that is there only choice, then come over. After all, the Statue of Liberty says “Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breath free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!” Notice the lack of the sentence “as long as they have papers”.

The Ten Commandments are for religion. In this country, much to the dismay of Texas, we have separation of church and state.

And yes, Native Americans DID migrate here. They had to cross a land bridge to get here. Once in North America, they migrated across the continent and settled there. Granted, it was a long time ago, but the point is that they migrated as well.

You are kidding yourself if you think all the people who came to America came through Ellis Island, and came through legally. Go back past the Progressive Era when there was no Ellis Island. People came here for religious freedom, for profit, or were forced to come as slaves.

Like I said before, I don’t think people should come over illegally, but if that is there only choice, then come over. After all, the Statue of Liberty says “Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breath free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!” Notice the lack of the sentence “as long as they have papers”.

Perhaps Arizona should establish verbal skills as a criterion for certification rather than sending auditors into classrooms of currently certified teachers and move to reassign them because of the way they speak.
The anger being expressed in AZ is surely creating problems for their citizens but is a sign of the times. Legal rulings are on the horizon and will not be favorable to AZ.

If you had your way, you’d probably relocate the Native Americans again. Racist.

If you had your way, you’d probably relocate the Native Americans again. Racist.

If you had your way, you’d probably relocate the Native Americans again. Racist.

Actually even the “true Native Americans” migrated here from Asia.

Actually even the “true Native Americans” migrated here from Asia.

Actually even the “true Native Americans” migrated here from Asia.

Sorry, “concerend” citizen, you misspelled your name, so you will be deported and go straight to hell for your hateful comments. Even Jesus would think you are fucked up.

Sorry, “concerend” citizen, you misspelled your name, so you will be deported and go straight to hell for your hateful comments. Even Jesus would think you are fucked up.

Sorry, “concerend” citizen, you misspelled your name, so you will be deported and go straight to hell for your hateful comments. Even Jesus would think you are fucked up.

Very well explained.I personally feel that they would not allow Albert Einstein to teach in Arizona. Nor Shakespeare, Dickens, Cervantes, etc. Better way to protect the children.

Sorry, we are not all illegals… my family has been in the United States since the Revolutionary War. So there are some families here that actually built this country… so don’t assume it is just sitting here open to anyone who wants to take from it. Our great country has limited resources. We cannot support the entire world. All other countries have rules regarding immigration, but for some reason some people think the USA is a free for all … just come in and take whatever you want. Who do you think did those dirty jobs before the rash of illegal immigrants?? Americans did those jobs. Do you really think we are incapable of taking care of ourselves? Uneducated people of all races, but they were Americans, did those jobs. So don’t assume our economy would somehow just stop without illegals doing our dirt work … this country is a melting pot of people that legally are Americans, that means either born here , or applied, and were granted citizenship .. it is not a free for all …go home then come back legally… period… and if you think that is racist, or being a biggot, then I guess all other counties in the world (including Mexico) are racists and biggots, because all other countries have laws regarding legal immigration.

Sorry, we are not all illegals… my family has been in the United States since the Revolutionary War. So there are some families here that actually built this country… so don’t assume it is just sitting here open to anyone who wants to take from it. Our great country has limited resources. We cannot support the entire world. All other countries have rules regarding immigration, but for some reason some people think the USA is a free for all … just come in and take whatever you want. Who do you think did those dirty jobs before the rash of illegal immigrants?? Americans did those jobs. Do you really think we are incapable of taking care of ourselves? Uneducated people of all races, but they were Americans, did those jobs. So don’t assume our economy would somehow just stop without illegals doing our dirt work … this country is a melting pot of people that legally are Americans, that means either born here , or applied, and were granted citizenship .. it is not a free for all …go home then come back legally… period… and if you think that is racist, or being a biggot, then I guess all other counties in the world (including Mexico) are racists and biggots, because all other countries have laws regarding legal immigration.

Sorry, we are not all illegals… my family has been in the United States since the Revolutionary War. So there are some families here that actually built this country… so don’t assume it is just sitting here open to anyone who wants to take from it. Our great country has limited resources. We cannot support the entire world. All other countries have rules regarding immigration, but for some reason some people think the USA is a free for all … just come in and take whatever you want. Who do you think did those dirty jobs before the rash of illegal immigrants?? Americans did those jobs. Do you really think we are incapable of taking care of ourselves? Uneducated people of all races, but they were Americans, did those jobs. So don’t assume our economy would somehow just stop without illegals doing our dirt work … this country is a melting pot of people that legally are Americans, that means either born here , or applied, and were granted citizenship .. it is not a free for all …go home then come back legally… period… and if you think that is racist, or being a biggot, then I guess all other counties in the world (including Mexico) are racists and biggots, because all other countries have laws regarding legal immigration.

If speaking with an accent makes you ineligible to teach, then 80% of the teachers in the U.S. are in big trouble.

an immigrant comes here legaly….an illiegal alien is just that…

an immigrant comes here legaly….an illiegal alien is just that…

an immigrant comes here legaly….an illiegal alien is just that…

Well put. There are reasons why laws are in place. Follow them and everyone will get treated the same.

Well put. There are reasons why laws are in place. Follow them and everyone will get treated the same.

Well put. There are reasons why laws are in place. Follow them and everyone will get treated the same.

Where does that leave a teacher from the U.K. or Australia?

Where does this leave a teacher from the U.K. or Australia?

See, after reading everyone’s opinion and the article itself, I have to agree with Jane. If they are teaching our students about “comas” coming after a word, then we start having a problem. Yes, we know EXACTLY what they meant but there’s a difference in teaching the language and knowing it. They should come hand to hand. I would never try to become a Spanish teacher due to my poor grammar, accent, etc. Teach what you know.

See, after reading everyone’s opinion and the article itself, I have to agree with Jane. If they are teaching our students about “comas” coming after a word, then we start having a problem. Yes, we know EXACTLY what they meant but there’s a difference in teaching the language and knowing it. They should come hand to hand. I would never try to become a Spanish teacher due to my poor grammar, accent, etc. Teach what you know.

That is the best and most rational comment I have seen. Thank you for cutting through the nonsense and stating what should be the obvious responsible, reasonable solution.

That is the best and most rational comment I have seen. Thank you for cutting through the nonsense and stating what should be the obvious responsible, reasonable solution.

That is the best and most rational comment I have seen. Thank you for cutting through the nonsense and stating what should be the obvious responsible, reasonable solution.

Mexico is a damn basket case in some areas more than others–Monterrey, Mexico was jokingly called Texas’ most southern city–due to the fact Texas conducts a hell of a lot of business with that one city in Mexico, the northern Mexicans are not as poor as the southern and western Mexicans, still their leaders are dumb for accepting NAFTA. Would we be so ticked off if the Mexicans were rich would people complain? But, instead only their leaders are wealthy (as sell outs to the multinationals) sound familar?

Mexico is a damn basket case in some areas more than others–Monterrey, Mexico was jokingly called Texas’ most southern city–due to the fact Texas conducts a hell of a lot of business with that one city in Mexico, the northern Mexicans are not as poor as the southern and western Mexicans, still their leaders are dumb for accepting NAFTA. Would we be so ticked off if the Mexicans were rich would people complain? But, instead only their leaders are wealthy (as sell outs to the multinationals) sound familar?

Mexico is a damn basket case in some areas more than others–Monterrey, Mexico was jokingly called Texas’ most southern city–due to the fact Texas conducts a hell of a lot of business with that one city in Mexico, the northern Mexicans are not as poor as the southern and western Mexicans, still their leaders are dumb for accepting NAFTA. Would we be so ticked off if the Mexicans were rich would people complain? But, instead only their leaders are wealthy (as sell outs to the multinationals) sound familar?

I don’t think anyone is trying to tear down the country…and I don’t think anyone is trying to make your children learn another language unless it is an elective or part a curriculum. No one is asking you to conform. The point is that a person with an accent can teach effectively and beautifully. I had many teachers and professors that had accents…it posed no problem, whatsoever.

I don’t think anyone is trying to tear down the country…and I don’t think anyone is trying to make your children learn another language unless it is an elective or part a curriculum. No one is asking you to conform. The point is that a person with an accent can teach effectively and beautifully. I had many teachers and professors that had accents…it posed no problem, whatsoever.

I don’t think anyone is trying to tear down the country…and I don’t think anyone is trying to make your children learn another language unless it is an elective or part a curriculum. No one is asking you to conform. The point is that a person with an accent can teach effectively and beautifully. I had many teachers and professors that had accents…it posed no problem, whatsoever.

The article is about accents not status, so get it straight.

Awesome, yeah deport him for not knowing english.
Hahaaa, I can’t wait until they start going through Geogia and Mississippi and putting those teachers (and politicians….and COPS) on a rail back to, umm, Whiteland in Europe, hey none of those guys speak English, just some wacked out ‘hickonics’.

hahahaha I was wondering the same thing, as I have one! And, I teach English!

that is THEIR accent…and are you saying I cannot teach in other parts of the country? hahaha

This sort of thing makes me ashamed to be an American. I would also like to state that we have as Americans opened our doors and our arms to the unfortunate of the world — anyone ever read what's on the Statute of Liberty? It's not the illegal aliens' fault that America is still viewed as a country with streets of gold. The people who willingly employ illegals are the ones we should be after! They are (supposedly) Americans (I believe, in most cases) looking for a fast buck by employing poor people who cannot stand up for themselves. Are we all forgetting where WE came from and why? Come on people! Where are all the old hippies when you need them — love, people, love. Let's cut the crap. But let's let Arizona become a separate country and then we can invade it and fix it!!! LOL. Be kind to each other, people. It matters. It matters a whole lot. Mike, if you're still in AZ, hope you've changed.

I’m lost on the connection between illegal immigration and schools turning out students that can’t speak proper English. Actually I’m lost on the connection for everything you said. Doesn’t the Bible teach us to welcome all? Under your theory the Romans were justified in crucifying Jesus because he was “different” and didn’t follow their laws? And Iraqi’s and Afghani’s are jusitifed in killing our soldiers because we invaded their countries, which surely must be against the law of their land. So, following your logic, if the laws of Iraq justify killing invaders, and the Bible says follow the laws of the land we are in, then you support the killing of American troops? Or are what you saying is that the teachings of the Bible only apply when you agree with them?

hey HEY Dolly……….the grammEr is terrible? Honey chile, that is spelled grammAr. The diction sounds like a stupid person? ahhahaah…..you know not of what you speak, dahlin’

again…I have had many teachers and professors with lovely accents…european and “Southern” and they were wonderful teachers and could communicate beautifully….be careful there….

I am from the deep south and have been told that my accent is sometimes not understandable. But by whose standards do we determine “understandable”? If children are getting an education and learning something useful what difference does it make what the teacher's accent is? The proof should be in the test scores of the students – not in how the teacher is pronouncing the words!

I support AZ!!! They are being bashed for not being “politically correct” . Why not obey the law? That is what the controversy is about. Now they are trying to educate the illegals but how dare you take away their accent?!?!?! So every thing that AZ does now will be put under the microscope of public opinion. Why aren't we up in arms against countries where human rights are trampled on, like the Islamic countries that do not want girls educated at all? What is education about if not to improve yourself? It is like having teachers teach math that can't add or teachers teach language arts that do not know what nouns are because you might “offend” them. Ridiculous crap that makes the headlines today, isn't it!?!?!

This is so disgusting. I say peCAN because I grew up in the South, but here in the Northy they say PeCAAN. But which pronunciation is “correct”? That crowd running the schools in Arizona are a bunch of ignorant kooks. THEY should be the ones fired. But just watch. They'll be going after those who speak gaily next.
This is not the country I grew up in. Some of my best teachers had foreign accents and couldn't pronounce certain words correctly. But anyone who understands how language is learned understands that in the first ten years or so of one's life, there are certain sounds that we learn to pronounce and we do not learn the ability to pronounce other sounds and it is almost impossible to learn them properly. Now someone hand me my ink pin “as my wife accuses me of pronouncing “pen”. This is as subjective as deciding whether someone is “Aryan”. Those folks in Arizona are heading towards not just fascism, but outright Nazi like behavior, if they have not yet arrived there yet.

But the Illeagals

learn how to spell MORON

Okay, if you can't fly an airplane properly should you be a flight instructor? Same goes for other occupations! They are not saying they can't teach, just that they can't teach english. What the H@#$ is wrong with that? I am so sick of the whining, crying, people in the media!! Everything is, “its not fair”. Life not fair and it is not a perfect world. Live with it..

Ah yes, we are ALL nazis now

I see your point here, but I do believe that English teachers should speak perfect English. My daughter had a fourth grade teacher who spoke ebonics .. this was very confusing for her. Would you have a teacher teach Spanish or French that didn’t have a mastery of the language .. of course not… is that racism.. I think not…it’d called comon sense .. some don’t have it ….

I can see that it would be a slap in the face to those who entered the country legally. To sit back and watch millions gain illegal access to the US … that is not fair , and that is why people are pissed. Do it the right way , then you have the right to be here ….

um…I do not think 50 billion people are trying to come here…

Congratulations to the American citizens of Arizona.Finally we have found people willing to stand up and say not in this state.All Illegals need to be deported.If they want to be here do it legally.But the Illeagals think they should be allowed to stay,In Mexico they would be put in prison or deported.after a severe beating.You have totally pissed off a majority of people.Protesting for rights you do not have or deserve. Your marches will continue to add fuel to the fire.Go home and come back legal problem solved.Your President also needs to keep his nose out of American Law.He cannot control his own country or people.You have taken advantage of American Goodwill once too often.As for any polticians out there reading this start enforcing the law and Veto any Amnesty or face the unemployment line.

To compare Arizona to the Nazis is to degrade the memories of those who suffered under Hitler. The comparison is emotional and inflammatory, without any basis in fact whatsoever.

If you can’t speak English properly, you pussilanimous little fucking twit, then your family should be sent to an internment camp, go back to where you came from bitch.

If you can’t speak English properly, you pussilanimous little fucking twit, then your family should be sent to an internment camp, go back to where you came from bitch.

If you can’t speak English properly, you pussilanimous little fucking twit, then your family should be sent to an internment camp, go back to where you came from bitch.

Actually, they’re not standing up and saying anything. Funny you should mention severe beating, I was jsut watching a group of cops beating a hispanic guy and throwing racial slurs at him. So we know what side you stand on fuckface.

Actually, they’re not standing up and saying anything. Funny you should mention severe beating, I was jsut watching a group of cops beating a hispanic guy and throwing racial slurs at him. So we know what side you stand on fuckface.

Actually, they’re not standing up and saying anything. Funny you should mention severe beating, I was jsut watching a group of cops beating a hispanic guy and throwing racial slurs at him. So we know what side you stand on fuckface.

One more Important point. Someone brought up Einstein,Kissinger and Arnold. They came to this country the legal way.What we are looking for is law enforcement for people that have broken federal laws already on the books.Say NO to AMNESTY

Please elaborate how this is Nazi-like. The comparison seems without meaning or depth, at best.

Are you suggesting that immigration be unrestricted? How many would be too many for you? 50 million? A billion? Where do you draw the line?

“they need to listen to correctly spoken English, not heavily accented English.”

correctly spoken English is what they speak in England, not here. We speak an Americanized version of “English” so if you really want to get specific, what you speak is not “correctly spoken English” either.

“they need to listen to correctly spoken English, not heavily accented English.”

correctly spoken English is what they speak in England, not here. We speak an Americanized version of “English” so if you really want to get specific, what you speak is not “correctly spoken English” either.

“they need to listen to correctly spoken English, not heavily accented English.”

correctly spoken English is what they speak in England, not here. We speak an Americanized version of “English” so if you really want to get specific, what you speak is not “correctly spoken English” either.

Illegals are illegal because of law, and the fact is that there is no homogenous ‘race’, it’s just a made up lie. Furthermore, you’re not your grandpa, you don’t get to take credit for what you perceive your ancestors to have done. The fact that you would bring your relatives into this is a joke, you weren’t there dummy.

And if you don’t think this is about people wanting to ‘cleanse’ the country then you’re dead wrong, every neo-nazi in the country backs this law and are packing up and moving to Arizona, where the meth is plentiful and the cops harrass brown people.

Illegals are illegal because of law, and the fact is that there is no homogenous ‘race’, it’s just a made up lie. Furthermore, you’re not your grandpa, you don’t get to take credit for what you perceive your ancestors to have done. The fact that you would bring your relatives into this is a joke, you weren’t there dummy.

And if you don’t think this is about people wanting to ‘cleanse’ the country then you’re dead wrong, every neo-nazi in the country backs this law and are packing up and moving to Arizona, where the meth is plentiful and the cops harrass brown people.

Illegals are illegal because of law, and the fact is that there is no homogenous ‘race’, it’s just a made up lie. Furthermore, you’re not your grandpa, you don’t get to take credit for what you perceive your ancestors to have done. The fact that you would bring your relatives into this is a joke, you weren’t there dummy.

And if you don’t think this is about people wanting to ‘cleanse’ the country then you’re dead wrong, every neo-nazi in the country backs this law and are packing up and moving to Arizona, where the meth is plentiful and the cops harrass brown people.

The ellipsis only uses three dots.

The ellipsis only uses three dots.

The ellipsis only uses three dots.

I don't see the problem here. If students are learning English, they need to listen to correctly spoken English, not heavily accented English. Teachers who are going to be teaching the English language need to be able to speak and pronounce that language correctly.

Why all the fulling around?? Simply pass a law to make English the only “official” language, such as was done in one Canadian state (only French is officially recognized there.) If you then either do not speak English or do not speak it properly, you are out of a job. So simple that it was simply missed.
Everyone is welcome to this country–legally–and as long as you speak the language.

Speaking English with an accent is English as well. You must be retarded.

Speaking English with an accent is English as well. You must be retarded.

Speaking English with an accent is English as well. You must be retarded.

Hey fuckface, it’s funny how morons like yourself that are so anal about the use of the English language cant use it themselves. There’s three dots in an ellipsis and you’re raping the English language the way you’re using it. Two dots rather than a question mark? You fucking moron, go back to where you came from in dumbshit land.

Hey fuckface, it’s funny how morons like yourself that are so anal about the use of the English language cant use it themselves. There’s three dots in an ellipsis and you’re raping the English language the way you’re using it. Two dots rather than a question mark? You fucking moron, go back to where you came from in dumbshit land.

Hey fuckface, it’s funny how morons like yourself that are so anal about the use of the English language cant use it themselves. There’s three dots in an ellipsis and you’re raping the English language the way you’re using it. Two dots rather than a question mark? You fucking moron, go back to where you came from in dumbshit land.

Take an English class dumbshit. “…” “…” “…” What’s your fucking problem?

Take an English class dumbshit. “…” “…” “…” What’s your fucking problem?

Take an English class dumbshit. “…” “…” “…” What’s your fucking problem?

What about teachers with thick Southern accents? Are their jobs in jeopardy, too?

For all you fools who think it's ok to be bilingual here in America!!! Let your liberal children go to a school where teachers don't speak proper english and be taught, because I don't want my child being taught a language that is not what the majority of this county speaks.. There are alot of different cultures in this great country and if they think this country is their own then they should conform to the english language…Not ask the rest of us to conform to the language of the country that they don't want to live in anymore… Let the mexicans go back to their so called great country and help to build it up. Don't keep trying to tear the US down…Period… I have an Italian heritage but I AM AMERICAN FIRST…

G. Conner: Do you mean “fooling” around? Because based on your comment since you do not seem to know the difference between fulling and fooling you would also be out of a job in AZ. Also Canada have providences not states.

So let’s just put cameras on people 24/7, with a direct feed to law enforcement. Then anytime someone commits a crime a buzzer can go off so they know to make an arrest. After all, breaking the law is breaking the law and illegal is illegal.

So let’s just put cameras on people 24/7, with a direct feed to law enforcement. Then anytime someone commits a crime a buzzer can go off so they know to make an arrest. After all, breaking the law is breaking the law and illegal is illegal.

So let’s just put cameras on people 24/7, with a direct feed to law enforcement. Then anytime someone commits a crime a buzzer can go off so they know to make an arrest. After all, breaking the law is breaking the law and illegal is illegal.

His mom’s too busy bl0wing him and his brother/dad to worry about liking anybody.

His mom’s too busy bl0wing him and his brother/dad to worry about liking anybody.

His mom’s too busy bl0wing him and his brother/dad to worry about liking anybody.

I couldn’t care less who teaches English to my child as long as they are grammatically correct. Given that my (fictitious) child is exposed to accents within the natal family, on TV, in the movies, and on the radio to a far greater extent than in school, what’s the worry?

I couldn’t care less who teaches English to my child as long as they are grammatically correct. Given that my (fictitious) child is exposed to accents within the natal family, on TV, in the movies, and on the radio to a far greater extent than in school, what’s the worry?

I couldn’t care less who teaches English to my child as long as they are grammatically correct. Given that my (fictitious) child is exposed to accents within the natal family, on TV, in the movies, and on the radio to a far greater extent than in school, what’s the worry?

I love that idea. Half a million of them living in Aryanzona, and you know they’re being targeted by this law. Give it all to them, let them deal with those “illegal immigrants” who stole their land from them.

I love that idea. Half a million of them living in Aryanzona, and you know they’re being targeted by this law. Give it all to them, let them deal with those “illegal immigrants” who stole their land from them.

I love that idea. Half a million of them living in Aryanzona, and you know they’re being targeted by this law. Give it all to them, let them deal with those “illegal immigrants” who stole their land from them.

It's unfortunate that there is a small but very vocal minority in this country who all of sudden think they and their ancestors were the “original” inhabitants of this land. All but the true Native Americans came from somewhere else. Yes, all who are now clamoring to “cleanse” the country of those here illegally are descendants of “immigrants”. It's would be interesting to know how many of those who want to close the borders and deport those who are different claim to be Christian. As a believer myself, I can only say that those who truly follow the teachings of Christ should welcome and care for the alien, the orphan, and the widow, with no “strings attached.” A country that has blessed as richly as ours should be ashamed of such behavior. May God truly bless the whole world, no exceptions.

Down south no ,thats there accent. But if they were to teach in Washington yes

Wow you stopped your autofellation just long enough to type huh?

Wow you stopped your autofellation just long enough to type huh?

Wow you stopped your autofellation just long enough to type huh?

Geez, could you keep your proclivities to yourself and your boyfriend?

Geez, could you keep your proclivities to yourself and your boyfriend?

Geez, could you keep your proclivities to yourself and your boyfriend?

While they're at it, can they get rid of American-born teachers (and public spokespersons) who cannot correctly use the -ly suffix on adverbs and who confuse when to use reflexive pronouns? I once had an English teacher with a heavy Italian accent whose grammar was quite superior to those native speakers with their “Philly” accent and approach to grammar! (On another note, the governor of California is no more qualified to teach than a teacher is qualified to govern. I like his accent, however, only people educated to teach should do so. I see a doctor regulary but don't assume that merely receiving the service qualifies me for the job!)

You and the frog in your pocket, eh?

You and the frog in your pocket, eh?

You and the frog in your pocket, eh?

you say “bi lingual” like its a bad thing..you are an ignorant idiot, i'll hire you're kid to clean my tri lingual floors after he gets out of his first stint in juvenile hall, plus a little spoiler for you, the Mexicans were here WAY before any italians. Youleft your country because it was a shithole too at some point….”there's no zealot like a convert”.

Are you serious “and our schools are turning out students that can’t speak proper English or who can’t even graduate from high school”?!!!!! Do you believe only immigrants (illegal and legal) are the only people who cannot speak “proper” English or graduate high school? Is your head in a hole? Listen to the people around you and you can hear all of the slang/improper english and take a good look at our drop out rate, who is really dropping out? It seems to me as though too many US citizens think so highly of themselves that they forget where they came from and how fortunate they are to not have to struggle as hard as some. And lucky for us that we were born here, imagine if you had to pay the exorbitant fees charged by the Department of Homeland Security (which all third world people can afford to pay, I mean, really, why leave your country if you have the money to live comfortably there? Think about it…) and wait the several years for them to finally decide to look at your case and then if you are lucky, actually approve it; all so that someone like you or the ignorant people of this country can still harrass you because of the way you look or because of your accent. Did your grandfather speak perfect English? Does he (or did he) get harrassed because of it or his appearance? Was he questioned for his “papers” everytime he was pulled over because of his race? And what is our “way of life”? I also think we are doing just fine putting ourselves into bankruptcy, and who are we supporting, last time I checked, illegal immigrants were not eligible for any government benefits, but our trash seems to be utilizing it quite well. And you should also check on the spelling of “concerned”. Now that I am feeling a little bit disgruntled with my race I will go back to work with the people who work like dogs for jobs with low pay that “our people” don’t want to do after 2 days and would prefer to live off the system or unemployment. Have a great day!

Are you serious “and our schools are turning out students that can’t speak proper English or who can’t even graduate from high school”?!!!!! Do you believe only immigrants (illegal and legal) are the only people who cannot speak “proper” English or graduate high school? Is your head in a hole? Listen to the people around you and you can hear all of the slang/improper english and take a good look at our drop out rate, who is really dropping out? It seems to me as though too many US citizens think so highly of themselves that they forget where they came from and how fortunate they are to not have to struggle as hard as some. And lucky for us that we were born here, imagine if you had to pay the exorbitant fees charged by the Department of Homeland Security (which all third world people can afford to pay, I mean, really, why leave your country if you have the money to live comfortably there? Think about it…) and wait the several years for them to finally decide to look at your case and then if you are lucky, actually approve it; all so that someone like you or the ignorant people of this country can still harrass you because of the way you look or because of your accent. Did your grandfather speak perfect English? Does he (or did he) get harrassed because of it or his appearance? Was he questioned for his “papers” everytime he was pulled over because of his race? And what is our “way of life”? I also think we are doing just fine putting ourselves into bankruptcy, and who are we supporting, last time I checked, illegal immigrants were not eligible for any government benefits, but our trash seems to be utilizing it quite well. And you should also check on the spelling of “concerned”. Now that I am feeling a little bit disgruntled with my race I will go back to work with the people who work like dogs for jobs with low pay that “our people” don’t want to do after 2 days and would prefer to live off the system or unemployment. Have a great day!

Are you serious “and our schools are turning out students that can’t speak proper English or who can’t even graduate from high school”?!!!!! Do you believe only immigrants (illegal and legal) are the only people who cannot speak “proper” English or graduate high school? Is your head in a hole? Listen to the people around you and you can hear all of the slang/improper english and take a good look at our drop out rate, who is really dropping out? It seems to me as though too many US citizens think so highly of themselves that they forget where they came from and how fortunate they are to not have to struggle as hard as some. And lucky for us that we were born here, imagine if you had to pay the exorbitant fees charged by the Department of Homeland Security (which all third world people can afford to pay, I mean, really, why leave your country if you have the money to live comfortably there? Think about it…) and wait the several years for them to finally decide to look at your case and then if you are lucky, actually approve it; all so that someone like you or the ignorant people of this country can still harrass you because of the way you look or because of your accent. Did your grandfather speak perfect English? Does he (or did he) get harrassed because of it or his appearance? Was he questioned for his “papers” everytime he was pulled over because of his race? And what is our “way of life”? I also think we are doing just fine putting ourselves into bankruptcy, and who are we supporting, last time I checked, illegal immigrants were not eligible for any government benefits, but our trash seems to be utilizing it quite well. And you should also check on the spelling of “concerned”. Now that I am feeling a little bit disgruntled with my race I will go back to work with the people who work like dogs for jobs with low pay that “our people” don’t want to do after 2 days and would prefer to live off the system or unemployment. Have a great day!

this speaking english thing is a lot of bull who in this world speaks english i know americans don't speak english and they think they do and thats ok well ask JCee MC Donald the west indian man who taught it in England,and that is a complex language and because you have an accent i don't think that should be a problem my LORD what next.

Go Arizona

Yes, and that's the way it should be everywhere. But when you start to actively pass these types of laws, then people get nasty…I thought these Ayryanzona morons didn't like big government….now they want to pass laws on people's accents? I grew up in Miami, which is as immigrant heavy as you get and all of my english teachers spoke perfect english- sometimes with a slight latin accent, but it was good enough to send me to a top university. I dont see how this isn't something that is taken care of where they hire the teachers.

Well said!

It doesn't matter if all but Native Americans came from somewhere else (and, of course, Native Americans not only came from someplace else, they displaced even earlier arrivals). What matters is what is happening NOW. As a sovereign nation we have an absolute right to determine who enters, how they enter, and how many may enter. By your logic, within a few years, we would have over three billion people in the USA.

Why not sell all of your possessions, and go to the Third World and help them there? It seems that Jesus suggested this, but hardly anyone can ever be bothered to do it.

while i can empatize with you we are all illegals because we all came from some where else if the saying hold up a litter that was born in an oven is not bread we must stop and think and do things in a dignified manner because those illegals built the country they did and still do the dirty work we did not want to do because we taught we were too great so the immigrants came and clean our mess is the econemy thet made us realize we can clean toilets for $6.00 an hour how good.

Mr. Varney, What does your letter have to do with my accent and my legal rights as a citizen, and as for a majority of people i didn't know bigots were a majority. Stick to the facts!

tn: Did you mean “Canada HAS PROVINCES, not states?” I think G. Conner might have been using “fulling” as a substitute for another verb that rhymes with “trucking”. If you're going to critique others, try to have your “shoot” together.

IF any of you look at the laws in place for imigration, then you would understand the problem. They come and steal our jobs, give birth here so their children can be given many oppurtunities that white children won't even be afforded because they are white americans! White americans are now the MINORITY PEOPLE. But we get fewer grant possibilities across the board. On the teachers, think of whenyou are in another country or even you high school forieng language class. PRONOUCIATION is beat into us and we are graded poorly for not picking this up. Shouldn't immigrants be held to the same standars as to make law enforcement or even better MEDICAL personel able to understand them? What if your baby dies at day care cuz all you have is a spanish speaking person on the line with 911 but the operator can't undestand a word they say..DO YOUR RESEARCH AMERICA!! To many people believe every lil detail they see on the news. The news is there to make money remeber that. But our public “free” libraies aren't and are unbiased with all the laws ther to be looked at factually.

What do we do about, “Ebonics”? I have been in classes where the teacher is African-American and axs, “Who in hera have any more quorstions?”. “Does anyone know what time it iyz.”….stuff like that. Arizona is pushing the envelope. I agree that illegal immigration is wrong, but I also agree, that discrimination against a person based on speech, race, color, etc….is wrong. This is an attack on hispanic educators and it is WRONG! I find it amusing how some of you just throw every latino in the mix…..Go back to your country? THIS IS MY COUNTRY!!!!! I am a 5th generation American, whose family members have fought in many wars for this, MY COUNTRY! They are dark skinned, black hair, brown-eyed, Mexican looking relatives that would be discriminated in Arizona, in a heart beat! These, my people, do not deserve to be treated as second class citizens, because you assume they are Mexican. I am light skinned, with a wonderful American accent, and will probably never experience this type of discrimination, but it makes me sick for MY relatives.

Let's see…singling out one specific group to use as your scapegoat for all of your societies I'll's. Start passing laws that target that specific group over and over.

You do all this by distorting the truth and villanizing that group. FOr example, border violence has actually decreased in the last several years, not increased like all these fools are saying.

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/a…

That group is then required to identify themselves in a way that allows the facist state to single them out easier (star of david sew on, or pass a law that allows people to be pulled over on sight for looking “illegal”- read:brown)

This then begins to spark acts of violence against said group. read the link below to learn about the 3rd generation phoenix Chicano SHOT TO DEATH by his racist neighbor due to this law…

http://www.azcentral.com/community/phoenix/arti…

the list goes on and on

thank you for this response….I totally agree

You have a very peculiar idea about “illegality”. By your definition, whoever arrives first in a place forever owns that place. North America would be cleansed of all but the Ainu, as would Japan and North-East Siberia. Europe would be evacuated except for the Basques-maybe. And so on.

Invasions, displacements happen. The first Europeans cam as colonists, and were welcomed in many places. When they established governments, others who arrived were immigrants. Their descendants became natural-born citizens. The only illegals now are those who enter this sovereign nation illegally.

For give my typos. Very upset with our country as a whole. Go to your local Veteran Affair Hospital and see what I mean. Immigrants get better treatment than our own troops. Please don't be ignorant America. I am not racist , but I am sick of paying for all of “Sheniqua's” illigitimate babies and the same with all the rest who abuse America's goverment.{wellfare, food stamps, education benifits, {then they go back to their country to be a doctor? thanks} school lunches. Think of why education bebifits are allways being cut accross the country. Now you wonder why lil Johny or Suzie seem like they have been taught in a class full of uneducated punks. Every body wants rights but no one relizes the full scale picture. Look at the Cuban in Miami when Castro opened all his jails. Where they go? Miami. Ever go down there? Can't get served unless you speak spanish. WTF? We are in the U.S. Go to any forieng country to get a Driver License. You have to learn their language to pass the test. In Florida they have 13 different languages to take your Drivers exam…..see my point.

I agree with the idea that teachers should be teaching correct English in school. Lets not make it about accents or race, its about the English language. Pronounce the word correctly or don't teach. I find it harder and harder everyday to understand people at places of business and over the phone because they are not pronouncing words correctly. This is long overdue in my opinion and should be instituted at all schools in America. English is the official language of our country. Learn it and live it.

We should all move to Mexico or forien countries and see how they like it when we invade their lifstyle and take up all their limited goverment resources.

SEMPER FIDELIS AMERICA

ahhahahaha I love your response…and I agree wholeheartedly!….also….I have to chuckle about the *much to the dismay of Texas* on church and state…

Which should be the official religon, or maybe get put in a concentration camp, the official hair color, or maybe all skin heads, or the official skin color, the list goes on, but your way of thinking will sooner or later stop the minority will become the majority

you might want to take some English classes yourself, marine boy. No wonder “they” are coming here and stealing your jobs- you're dumb ass has to compete for the shit jobs they do 'cause you are not able to compete with the rest of us for the non- shit jobs…

can't really blame the mexicans for that.

Whites are not a minority (2050), as a matter of fact, whites use more welfare than any other race, moron. go spew your facist white trash fear somewhere else.

Welfare budget consumption by Race:
————–
White 38.8%
Black 37.2
Hispanic 17.8
Asian 2.8
Other 3.4

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-welfareblack.htm

tn: Do you mean “Canada HAS PROVINCES? Because based on your comment since you don't seem to know the difference between have and has you would also be out of a job in AZ…. in both english AND geography. Wait, looks like you forgot some punctuation as well. Ewww… You started a sentnce with “Also”. tisk tisk. Perhaps it should have read like this: “Based on your comment, since you don't seem to know the difference between fulling and fooling, you would also be out of a job in AZ. For your information, Canada has provinces.” tn…. if you are going to correct someone, shouldn't you be correct as well? Nice work.

Mr. Chapa,
I hope you do not teach grammer.

So let me get this straight, the State of Arizona wants their school teachers to speak English in an ordinary modulated tone with the proper inflection and articulation where as to convey a thought or idea that everyone will be able to understand and pass along in general speech. HUM! That sounds a bit draconian don't you think?

you are the biggest moron on this site today, congrats. now go back to the drudge report with all of the scared, ignorant rednecks.

again, see my response to your other ridiculous post on how its WHITES that are the biggest economic burden on our country in terms of welfare consumption.

and when you use “sheniqua” to describe a black woman- YOU ARE A RACIST.

RIght, and although miami is incredibly hispanic and in some neighborhoods spanish is the primary language (just like mandarin/cantonese in chinatowns, etc), 99% of places here speak english.

I love you idiots…Raygun (your lord and Saviour) laxes immigration regulation in the early 80's so all of his southwestern contributors in the agriculture business (and other slave labor type industries ) can abuse illegals and profit from them (which they did immensely). This then blows up in the republicans face and then, instead of having these companies abide by the law, you scapegoat the poor people coming here to work these shit jobs.

ask anyone in arizona when immigration got out of control- 80's??

Just like your little VA example: republicans privatize the hell out of the entire VA system (did tons of work for them over the years), remember Walter Reed? This also goes to shit- then they turn around and blame who?? you guessed it, the immigrants.

Anything else you wanna blame on them to make you feel a little bit better about your self?

Maybe it is their fault we de-regulated the oil industry and there is a massive gusher in the gulf. oh, wait, gulf of……wait for it….mexico!

those bastards!!!

by the way, where are you from dumbass?

Great, I think we should adopt Mexico's laws. If you live in the United States you speak English or back to the country your from. If we would inforce our laws we would not have this problem either, but of course our government does not 2+2=4 so what do you expect. Everyone should have to go through the process of being a legal citizen. We have hundreds of people waiting to come to the United States, but you have the one's breaking the law and they have more rights than the citizens do. Illegals are causing the States to go bankrupt; Arizona your doing a great job, maybe the rest of the country will get a back-bone and follow with your lead, but of course Obama wants to give amesty so he can be re-elected in 2012. So pray for our nation and hope the people take back this Country.

cut the crappy bigotry,,,The illegals will go nowhere and they will stay. FYI,they are the founding fathers to their later generations in this country, they are just laying a foundation. Your founding fathers, who came to America illegally,,exterminated many native Indians,enslaved another race and discriminated against catholics,jews,Italians,the Irish and later the Japs. Now its the Latinos. Your bigoted views will get you and your kind nowhere,eventually your race will be a minority,,and yes America belongs to all of us. Its a God given right to be here,,,no man,white or lighter can take that away !!!

No Canada has Provinces not Providences

As a teacher, I can assure you that we have to be citizens to get into college and get a degree. These teachers have done nothing wrong, other than to have an accent. There are NO native people in America. Everyone here came over at some point, and most came in ways we would consider “illegal” today. Immigration made this country what it is! Chinese and Irish immigrants built the Transcontinental Railroad, and one of the men escaping Nazi Germany helped with the Manhattan Project.
I am a mixed race teacher, though I have no accent, and it disgusts me to see such blatant racism in schools. How can we teach students history such as the Civil Rights Movement, and expect them to understand equality, then act so racist to the teachers?

haaaaaaaaaahahahaha

Thank God, literally, for the commonsense that the people of Arizona are displaying. This is America and we are an English speaking country. If you do not like it, please kindly go home. Sounds very harsh, but “tink” about it.

It's NOT accent. It's pronunciation at issue. Apparently the members of the media are unable to spell “pronunciation” or, more likely, they realize that using the term “accent” will stir up far more controversy.

I hope you don't either, as it is “grammar”.

Native americans came from somewhere else, too. One of my grandparents was Native American and another was Scandinavian (Vikings), so some of my ancestors were here first twice before any other immigrants.

It's not a matter of wanting to “cleanse the country.” The problem in Arizona is that we have the highest influx of illegal immigrants leading to the highest identity theft rate in the US. Illegal drugs flow through our state as well leading to an increase in other crimes. What are we to do about it? I'm pretty sure the law we just inacted is not going to solve the problem, nor is getting rid of teachers with heavy accents. But the fact remains that we do have a problem and something has to be done about it before it gets worse. We would love to take care of everyone who needs help, but we can't.

I am not Christian nor rich nor a white supremist. I'm not even a native Arizonian. Illegals are illegal no matter what race. I expend much effort trying to follow the laws of our state, including not speeding when everyone else is. I think I have a right to expect that others do as well.

The American citizens of Arizona need you to learn better English.For example,,you can start by exercising with simple spelling and punctuations…It's illegals not 'illeagals'…..and …..'Go home and come back legal, problem solved' . Seems your accent is really affecting your competency and masterly of the English language,,,,we don't need you here as a teacher in the great state of Arizona.

My grandfather and his family came to Americal in 1910 and did it legally. We have laws in this country and they need to be followed. Christ also said give God what is due him and Caesar what is due him. The Bible teaches us to follow the laws of the land we are in. Because of this illegal immigration, our taxes continue to increase, our medical insurance continues to go so high that those of us who have worked all of our lives can't even afford decent medical care; and our schools are turning out students that can't speak proper English or who can't even graduate from high school. It has nothing to do with deporting those who are different, but deporting those who have no legal right to be in this country and costing those of us who have lived and worked here all our lives to see our taxes continue to increase to cover education, medical care and welfare for those who have no legal right to be here. Because of this we can't provide the essentials to the American people at an affordable cost. If foreigners want to come to this country that is great, but do it legally, learn our language and learn to respect our way of life and not put us into bankruptcy trying to support them.

The fact that the ancestors of the majority of Americans were immigrants is beside the point. We're talking about what's happening today. Illegal acts, no matter what they are, are simply that – illegal – and should not be tolerated. My family is Hispanic and guess what – we came to the US legally! Waited our turn and went through the process of becoming American citizens – and, when conducting business we do it in English.

Is there really an American English? English (British, Australian, Irish and other form and accent of “English”) comes in varying accent. As long as these Teachers teaches correct grammar then the accent should add flavor to it. What if the teacher started talking 'Ebonics'? will they say something to it too?

“They” stole your job? Is that why you joined the Marines? Because you couldn't make such a great living picking tomatoes and shoveling manure from factory farms?

wrong! check out the illigal immigrant in college in kennesaw georgia who was arrested and given temporary amnesty to finish school until she was arrested again for lying to authorities and she lied about being a citizen to get in and receive in-state tuition.

I think it is cruel to admonish a teacher for having an accent.

G. conner!! for the love of me,,which English language are you extolling here?? You ought to be the first out of a job. Can't you write better English?? Re-learn your grammar before casting the first stone. It ought not to be about accents, but the competency of the teachers.Any research whether their students learn anything about the English grammar?From your posting here,and many others like you, am pretty certain you cannot pass a simple English test. I would really want to see the results. Am confident of my masterly of the English language,having been taught by teachers with accents notwithstanding. Illiterate bigots, who think language is just about speaking ,should be made to take tests both written and spoken and i can attest that many will fail miserably. Another attack on other Americans,,,this too will fail.

G. conner!! for the love of me,,which English language are you extolling here?? You ought to be the first out of a job. Can't you write better English?? Re-learn your grammar before casting the first stone. It ought not to be about accents, but the competency of the teachers.Any research whether their students learn anything about the English grammar?From your posting here,and many others like you, am pretty certain you cannot pass a simple English test. I would really want to see the results. Am confident of my masterly of the English language,having been taught by teachers with accents notwithstanding. Illiterate bigots, who think language is just about speaking ,should be made to take tests both written and spoken and i can attest that many will fail miserably. Another attack on other Americans,,,this too will fail.

whats your beef with rednecks?at least we fight and die for our country! we also pay taxes. how many illegals do that? by the way,where are you from and are you legal? your are also a racist against rednecks and whites.

Immigrants have been allowed in the country unchecked for decades……
Suddenly this issue looms large since nothing has been done over the past….yes, I agree people should be here legally…I totally agree…
But there is no need to behave as if you are superior to these people that are only trying to better their lives….the problem needs a solution, which will not be easy…it is a complex matter…but to exaggerate and cry DEPORT and STOP is ridiculous…and not feasible…the mess is made….and no, i do not know what the solution is yet, but please…it sickens me to see Americans believe as many of you seem to here…it is so ironic to me that our country is based on welcoming all… and you are all so closed minded about finding a solution…

Having an accent is not a recipe for disaster. One can communicate and teach with ANY accent. A teacher with poor grammar skills is another thing entirely…but an accent? Please.

No such thing as 'trucking' around Mike ,as applied by Conner in his opening statement. The English language is not ambiguous. You seem to be in club of those who speak gutter English,eventually believing that you have masterly of this language. It must be your accent to blame,in which case, you must lose your job in the great state of Arizona. What do you have to say about Conner's poor punctuations?You have to be able to write the language also. You need to take a grammar test too.

ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. THEY ARE THE PROBLEM. IT'S NOT THAT MANY OF THEM AREN'T NICE PEOPLE; IT'S BECAUSE THEY HAVE CREATED AN ECONOMIC SITUATION THAT IS BORNE BY THOSE CITIZENS WHO ARE HERE LEGALLY. MEXICO STRICTLY ENFORCES IT'S BORDERS AS AMERICA SHOULD. EVEN LEGAL IMMIGRANTS POSE A PROBLEM IN THAT MANY DO NOT ASSIMILATE. SOLVING THE PROBLEM IS QUITE SIMPLE; SEND THE ILLEGALS BACK TO WHEREVER THEY CAME FROM, SEAL OUR BORDERS AND FOLLOW OUR LAWS ABOUT LEGAL IMMIGRATION. SOME MEXICANS THINK THAT THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO OUR COUNTRY AND THE BENEFITS WE TAXPAYERS BEAR THE EXPENSE. CITIZENSHIP IN ANY COUNTRY REQUIRES OBLIGATIONS OF BOTH PARTIES. TOO MANY MEXICANS DO NOT PAY TAXES HERE AND TOO MANY COMMIT CRIMES AND TOO MANY RECEIVE TAX MONEY AND CREATE A DRAIN ON OUR RESOURCES. GO HOME AND COME BACK LEGALLY; PROBLEM SOLVED.

You are nothing but a bigot, KKK

Not to be picky, but I see a lot of mispelled words and bad grammar on the replies right here — did your teachers all have accents?
I understand obeying the law but isn't Arizona going too far now? This is getting ugly.

The federal government needs to step up and give temporary work visas to people, which will keep this whole problem in check. We'll know who is in the U.S., how long they've been here and they can pay taxes and go home when their visa is up or apply for citizenship just like everyone else. And we have to question WHY the government has not done this before (cheap labor?) and WHY we aren't punishing the bosses who hire illegal immigrants with fines and possible closure of their businesses? Is that enough to keep people in the U.S. from hiring illegals? Because businesses save so much $ when they hire under the table. There's no health insurance to be paid, wages can be cheap and lots of benefits for the person hiring the illegal worker. So, stop making the illegal worker the enemy. There's a whole system at work here with plenty of native-born Americans who profit from hiring illegal workers.

European explorers came to the current contientent starting with the Spanish–1519 in Mexico and by 1580 had established numerous outposts in what is now USA lands. Spanish-speakers are not any more foreign to these shores than English. The English came nearly 100 years later to our shores…English is the now the major language of commerce and science,but in the hemisphere Spanish is the leading language. Get over your narrow ethnic chauvinism and speak two languages, it is the future. BTW down with Castro! I also speak some Native American langauge out of respect to the people who lived here for over 10,000 years–pilgrim!

I guess Albert Einstein would not be able to teach either!

I guess Albert Einstein would not be able to teach either!

CHECK YOU FACTS!

2008 U.S.A. population by race:
White only: 62.4%!

Really, that's the only statistic anyone needs to know to show that you are just another rascist with nothing better to do, but stir the pot of hatred.

BTW, my day-care has people caring for my child in several nationalities (Russian, Japanese, Hispanic) and they ALL speak English with an accent and my kids are fluent in English and German, despite their teacher's 'incorrect' pronunciation.

Too many people believe every little detail they see in blog posts. I suggest you go to your local free library and learn the true demographic breakdown of the United States. A little intelligence goes a longer way than a lot of ignorance.

God Bless You TRUTH*, there's so many lame brains who fail to master basic English skills who are monolingual bigots, but what's really behind their hate is the fear of not being ready for the future USA. I am Native American and have taught hundreds of European-Americans how to write in grammatically correct sentences. ARYANZONA is filled with backward “leaders”–but, I thank them for making this the issue to bury the GOP.

Thank you!

If I traveled to Mexico, I guarentee everyone wouldn't be trying to speak English to make it easier for me! Any other foreign country, to stay there you need official documents. New Zealand has a grueling process to gain citizenship. Why are we different?

I have no problem with immigrants coming to this country as long as they agree to do the following:
1) Learn the language – If they want to join this society, they need to become part of it, not just stand to the side and abuse our system. Don't expect another culture to bow down and adapt to you when you are the ones seeking “a better life”.
2) Follow the law – Enter legally, and abide by all of the laws while they are here. This is no more than we would ask of any citizen who was born here.

Good for you Arizona. I had a college algebra teacher from China. He was a very nice man and really wanted to be a good teacher. However, he spoke with such a heavy accent, it was very difficult to understand what he was teaching. We the students ended up suffering in the end. If you teach in this country, you should be able to speak fluent english. Period!

I don't think “rednecks” qualify as a race.

So, whites use 1.6% more of the welfare budget, yet make up approximately 75% of the population. I guess that pretty much blows a hole in your theory, huh?

Students have a right to be able to understand their teachers. However i don't believe someone should loose their job over it. We have a great deal of brilliant teachers that are not from this country originally that have heavy accents. Perhaps if complaints are made that students can not understand their teachers verbal conversation and teachings, that a class can be offered to these teachers to help them with their pronouncement of words to an understandable level for all students. It is wrong to bash someone because of an accent instead lets help them become a better teacher. If a teacher truly cares for the education of their students they won't have a problem with becoming more understandable to all of their students. Spending an hour or so in a class where you can't understand the teacher is not very beneficial for the education of our children. I believe when you come to a country..for instance you move to Italy. I fully expect myself to learn the native common language to be able to successfully communicate with the local population as i expect others that move into this country to do the same. This does not mean you give up your heritage or your native language. You simply learn to be able to communicate with those around you.

Please go to Mexico illegally and voice that to them and see where that gets you. We are truly blessed as you say but being illegal is against the law. You as a Rev. should be the first one trying to uphold the law. We cannot break Bibical law at will so why should we be able to bend our Constitutional Laws at will. Do you live by the laws in the Bible that you agree with and break the ones you don’t agree with?

cant stand the truth? you think a misspelled word is a reason to bash someone and when did you get the authority to speak for GOD? if anyone here is fucked up its you!!!!!!!

I agree with you Wiggles. The students must come first. The with a heavy accent and are teaching or wish to go into teaching should take further courses to help eliminate a heavy accent so they may be better understood. There are many brilliant teachers here that have a heavy accent. Think how much better they could be and expressing their brilliant ideas and thoughts if they were understood clearly by their students.

your a racist and i hope they have a boat back to “blackland’ africa for you. i grew up in the south and havent thought of the “n” word in a very long time but you are part of the reason we still have racial tension. dont get me wrong, the other half of the problem is dumb ass whites.

I apologize for all the typos on my last post. I'm trying to do too many things at once.

An educator that is teaching English should speak the language as it is supposed to be spoken. Being an above average teacher with poor speaking skills taints the period of instruction if the students come away with those same poor speaking skills. The English language has many nuances, proper pronunciation of a word being one of them. I believe the school board is correct in their concern about this.

An educator that is teaching English should speak the language as it is supposed to be spoken. Being an above average teacher with poor speaking skills taints the period of instruction if the students come away with those same poor speaking skills. The English language has many nuances, proper pronunciation of a word being one of them. I believe the school board is correct in their concern about this.

I am so tired of the “they don't pay taxes” crap! Every time they buy gasoline they pay taxes. Every time they buy cigarettes they pay a heck of a lot in taxes. Every time they drink a beer or a glass of wine they pay taxes. Every time they buy something at WalMart they pay taxes. Every time they buy soda pop at the grocery they pay taxes. And, by accepting less than minimum wages to pick your produce or pluck your chickens they are saving you money when you buy food.

I am so tired of the “they don't pay taxes” crap! Every time they buy gasoline they pay taxes. Every time they buy cigarettes they pay a heck of a lot in taxes. Every time they drink a beer or a glass of wine they pay taxes. Every time they buy something at WalMart they pay taxes. Every time they buy soda pop at the grocery they pay taxes. And, by accepting less than minimum wages to pick your produce or pluck your chickens they are saving you money when you buy food.

not elegible for govt benefits? come to florida,for one, and see your tax dollars at “illegal” work.”FACT” did you know that illegal immigrants are allowed to keep all lottery winnings and are told on the brochure that you dont have to be legal. where do you think all of that jackpot is going to end up? not in your hometown,state,or country!

If they can't speak decent English that children can understand, get rid of them. A teachers job is to teach the correct pronunciation of each word, NOT GIBBERISH!!! SHAME ON OUR SCHOOLS SYSTEM THAT ALLOWS THIS TO GO ON!!!

GOOD FOR ARIZONA, MAY GOT BLESS THEM.

i truly hope you get to meet your namesake,and soon.

who dreamed up a global economy without a global minimum wage?

a sure path to slavery

ole Dixie has ris’ again. america is on the path of its second antebellum period.

why dont you tell everyone where you live,it must be utopia.

***

I didn't say white trash, i said rednecks. big difference there.

I am american, that is all you need to know.

Mexican Americans have fought in every foreign war this country has ever had, and died too. They pay taxes as well, both legal and illegal by the way- something that most of us whites with money and corporations are experts at avoiding.

and you say ” you're (you are) also a racist” , not “your (which implies ownership) also a racist”.

thanks for reinforcing my ignorant redneck description

I think the media is distorting the facts as usual. It really has nothing to do with the accent, we southerners have an accent, but we (most of us) use proper English. You can have a southern drawl or any other kind of accent, but you can still use proper English. If teachers are going to teach English, they should know how to pronounce all of the vowels properly. How can you teach English if you don't know how to pronounce and use the vowels or any of the other important parts of the English language properly. Why should a person living in the United States have to learn Spanish or any other language just because we decided to let illegals flop over our borders. I do think however, it is a good thing for all students from the very beginning to learn a second or third language as do most advanced countries in the world. However it is not right that the law that allows illegals to flop over the border to have children making the children legal citizens and then use the excuse that we would be separating families by deporting illegals. It the law was corrected we would have this problem. How blind can our government be. That is why they are doing it. The law allowing this to happen was originally set forth at the end of slavery to allow the slaves and their children to automatically become citizens once slavery ended. Up until that time they had no citizenship. This shows you how lax we are as a nation at correcting laws that no longer pertain to our current situation. This is just a sample of what is wrong in this country

what theory? I was just correcting some facts about the overall consumption of welfare funds. % of population is not really the point here…

Nice try at discrediting an argument by bringing in irrelevant facts into the conversation.

You should go work for Fox

One cannot be racist against rednecks, as they aren't a race.

Why are people ranting about immigration? You are confusing what this story is about miserably. It is specifically regarding teachers (who have to be legal to be certified to teach) who are getting scrutinized for having accents.

Yes, people who are teaching English should be well versed in grammar, but I've had plenty of native English speaking teachers use really poor grammar occasionally, which SHOULD be unacceptable. However, studies do in fact show that bilinguals have linguistic advantages. Rules should be enacted in the goal of providing the highest education possible, so if the teacher is educating their students well, then they should be praising their performance instead of ostracizing them for their accent. This situation is just pure intolerance whichever way you spin it.

The education system of Arizona has certainly missed the point, which shows in the quality of their education: they are ranked dead last out of the 50 states. How are you going to argue with facts?

Wow! I think everyone that posted a comment is moving away from the original subject on this article, which is “why should teachers be penalize for having an accent”. To teach in this century is hard enough as it is..the pay suck and kids are rude as hell. So if someone is willing to be certified and has the will to educate kids within the state regulations, why take that away from them. In this country accents vary, people from new york don't speak or sound the same as people from New Orleans (nothing against either). As a community we need to speak up and teach our children about respecting and embrassing differnet people regardless of color, religion, sexual orientation, culture background, financial status and/or vocal accents , otherwise we are just teaching to hate and kids learn quick. Do not judge all latin people as illigals, and don't judge a person until you can walked in their shoes. I agree if you break the law and enter a country without permission you should be deported back. I don't agree with profiling. Everyone should be asks for a driver license when address by an officer. Thank you.

If you don't want illegals here stop giving them jobs ass hole. I don't know why the fuss when you have some working in your ranch or house. I would like to see the employer's get slapped with a felony for every illegal they hire. I bet the illegals would go home if no jobs were available. When the towers came down in New York several illegals were working there. Arizoma belonged to Mexico first before it was taken away. You want to get rid off all or most of the crime for the time being change the color of the american dollar and have all the crooks turn the hidden money in to be changed. I like to see them explain where they got all those millions when they don't work or have decent jobs. And I am talking about every one that is a crook, drug dealers, store owner, bankers, attorney's etc.

This article is about peoples accents, not illegal immigrants. But if they are going to start auditing people because of the way they speak, then we're in real trouble. For example, I was stationed on the eastern shore of Virginia and for the life of me I couldn't understand what the locals were saying when they spoke. There are places in the deep south where you wouldn't believe what they spoke was English. So, to me, this crackdown is simply bigotry aimed at people with a Hispanic accent.

Corporate America and farmers receive far more WELFARE than Sheniqua does! I was brought up to believe that I am no better than anyone else but I am just as good. Some of the comments on this site are unbelievable. The grammar, spelling and punctuation of some of the posters leaves a lot to be desired of our education system. Illegal immigrants are not to blame for everything wrong in our country. I agree that anyone who lives here should do so legally. I don't believe, however, that Arizona or any other state has the right to single out a teacher because of his/her accent. I live in the south. Guess Arizona is off the list of places I would be allowed to teach in!!!

your right. this person who broke the law needs to go to jail ! the illegals are breaking a federal law and need to be deported and let some of the thousands of legally registered immigrants be let in. two points to ponder.one,read the article about kennesaw college and this girl and you will see the colleges reply that they dont have the time or resources to verify every applicants application, which means,” we want your money,”period. point two, you dont apply for jobs in the military,you are either promoted,or assigned a job, and please dont think this was the only stray incident.

Oh my freakin god…I did not think there were actually really people like you. You think that school funding is being cut back because of illegals? Whoa. Now I know why they do that propaganda on Fox and shit cuzz people actually really believe it. Wow. This is scary. And hey I am all for shutting down illiegal immigration, but the way to do it is just put the people who hire them IN JAIL. Then it (or most of it) will stop. I mean, you know do that absent a radical change in hemispheric economic policy.

It's about time! When I learned to speak Spanish, the instructor taught us to use voice inflections where we sounded like it was our native tongue. He taught us that it was rude and disrespectable to speak Spanish with an English accent. Over the years, I have had many people tell me that my Spanish is excellent and some even have thought I was from Mexico. I am not hispanic, don't look hispanic and was born and raised in the U.S. If I can speak a foreign language with the same dialect and inflections as natives of Mexico do, why don't they teach immigrants to do the same? It isn't hard to do and it sure makes a great impression. An excellent example is Vladmir Posner, he was born and raised in Russia but to hear him speak English you would think he was from the midwest.

There is no better way to blend into a society than to SOUND like that society sounds. Anyone can do it, it isn't difficult. Besides, it shows that your respect their culture enough to learn how to pronounce words properly.

i didnt refer to rednecks as a race. he refered to texas,mississippi i.e. the south. im of mixed ancestry traced back to 1582 england,but born and raised in the south and im happy to be a redneck.like i said before,if you dont like the south or redknecks,leave and go back north.when you get there and are still unsatisfied,keep on going!

Send me wherever, but it doesn’t change the fact if you want to start getting rid of people who do not speak ‘English’ you can start by sending 1/2 the crackers in the south who speak, like I say, some kind of hickonics.
I didn’t say I wanted to do it. It is an extrapolation of what they are talking about with these teachers. I personally LIKE living in an area where there is a real mixture of all different kind of folks and languages and colors and cultures. Christ if some of these people came here to LA they would shoot themselves. I mean it’s awesome, you can ride for like 5 miles down Western and not even see a sign in English….hell not even see a sign with English LETTERS. Better stay in Alabama.
I personally am just a rather regular white guy (race traitor I guess, huh?) who cuzza’ my job and interests has been able to travel a lot. It’s better to be exposed to a lot of different things. Hey, I think anyway.

but how do you know? if you think the govt only fucked up this part of the country,you need to wake da”fuk”up.

Oh I forgot, I want to make certain you get your English right or they may come for you too. It’s not, ‘your a’.
It’s … ‘you’re a’

Ok yeah sure …. I've worked in West Va, Southern Ohio and Kentucky and those dudes are all on SSI and shit. No they are.
It's sad some of the richest, most beautiful land in the country, no the world, and you free market'ers let Hanna, Rockefeller and all the other unrestricted corporate polluters rob and steal all the shit from under your feet and leave you there to wallow inn the toxic mess….screaming about how the givernment should let them fuck you over even more. America….PLEEEZE wake da'fuk'up.

I agree, Martin, but that is just ONE example. There are thousands of teachers with accents that communicate beautifully.

“Vladimir Pozner was born April 1, 1934, in Paris, France. He moved with his family to New York City in 1940 where he lived until late 1948, when his family moved to the Soviet-occupied zone of Berlin. In 1952 the family moved to Moscow, where he was enrolled at Moscow University and graduated in 1958 with an M.A. in biology.” (and so forth)
You should get your facts straight before you start pontificating.
http://www.russiaproject.org/part2/titans/pozne…

sorry to hear you are an american,makes me ashamed. i never said anything about mexicans,i said illegal immigrants. question, how do you pay taxes without a social security number? cant get one of those if your here illegal. thank you for supporting my theory that just because you have a college degree or money it makes you any better than any other dumbass! and yes your redneck discription is ignorant.

What did I support? I am a little confused on how we got on the republican bandwagon. I don’t support either party.

So you must know a lot of illegal people using the system personally. Well, if someone who comes from nothing wins some money that will make their life better then so be it, I would rather see them get the money than some trash or someone who is already well off. And the taxes of it, well, that does suck but whose fault is it that they don’t have to be legal to win? Not the illegal person’s. Don’t hate the player, hate the game. Have you ever been out of this country to a 3rd world country or spent a long length of time in one where you weren’t vacationing at some resort? Try it sometime, then your view may change a bit. And if it doesn’t then maybe you should take a look at your values.

Dude I’m so diggin’ your posts. I have work to do and, goddammit, I keep scrolling to see who you are nailing next. HA!
I, up until a year ago, wrote with this girl who would go nutz’ when I took liberties with the ellipsis. I used to argue with her about it then, burn on me, we started using Final Draft and they don’t let you do it (use more than 3) on that program.

Why would you want your kids to learn English from someone that can't speak it?

TIme for those with recent immigrant heritage, or naturalized immigrants to flex some political muscles. Some of my best teachers, and those of my sons had heavy accents, as refugees from Germany or Europe and the devastation of the second world war. Spanish is the most widely spoken language in the world; it has an amazing literary presence, and has had a great deal to do with the actual history of the Americas. And now, because someone speaks with a Spanish accent they are not allowed to teach? This is cultural purging at its worst, and of a sort practiced only by colonial powers, not by those who are citizens of the USofA.

I think you have some serious comprehension problems. What I was saying (I will try and keep this simple and concise) is the BIG BUSINESSES have fucked up this part of the country. That it is a beautiful and amazing area and that huge corporations have raped it and the people who live there (I mean this metaphorically, in an economic and environmental sense). And that if people like you think the government has no say so in stopping these corporations or protecting you from people who would do this to you, it is to your own detriment.

i never said anything about people who dont speak english! i said ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS black, white, irish ,german, doesn’t matter! dont put words in my mouth. for your info im not from alabama.i too have been outside the states for work,spent a year in saudi arabia,took time to see some of europe before i came home. i have also been to latin america,talk about not seeing any in english,i lived and worked in miami for 5 years and before you call me a racist i have a black son in law,a panamanian daughter in law and 8 beautiful grandchildren.love them all! that is my family.just want to know what you have against the south?

Maybe he means “gran-ma”. He hopes he isn’t teaching his grandmother.

what “trash” do you refer to? for your info i have traveled europe,latin america,spent a year in the middle east, and not all on vacation,but wherever i went two things were required. 1-passport 2-obey all laws or go to jail,not sent home,but jail.all countries of the world enforce this law,we should also.

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ARIZONA BANS BURRITOS, TACOS, CHIPS AND SALSA, FROM ALL PUBLIC SCHOOL CAFETERIAS
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As a person who grew up in a multilingual environment and speaks several languages, it is my *own personal* experience that you learn more quickly from those who sound like you. Given the large number of Hispanic-American children in Arizona schools, one would think the authorities in charge of education would want to ensure that these children have the best learning environment in which to develop there skills. Or at least attempt to conduct a study to establish metrics to measure the effect of accent on learning. This is racism pure and simple.

johnniefavorite and satan,i hope you two “boys” will be happy together! next time something gets shoved up one of your a___s i hope it will be a triple ellipsis!

o.k.,”you’re an asshole.”

you are right,big business has raped this region of the country and many more. this with the approval of our govt.yes,the govt is suppose to stop stuff like this but who do you think pays for candidates and reelection?if you dont realize this, it is to your detriment.

“Because of this illegal immigration, our taxes continue to increase, our medical insurance continues to go so high………”

Tempting though it may be, blaming “illegal immigration” for all of our problems is misguided and unproductive. America could easily afford healthcare and education for all of its citizens. Other countries manage to do it.
Stop looking for easy scapegoats. Educate yourself.

no,when i say we,(didnt think i would figure the reference to frog) i mean all southerners who have to put up with snowbirds and other yankees who come down and bitch and moan because we dont do it like that up north.all interstates,planes,trains,go both ways.if you dont like it here,go home! we must do something right,dont hear of many southerners retireing and going north! come on down and enjoy our hospatality,just dont tell us how you do it up north!

the best part of you ran down your mothers leg! you’re kind is the reason some species eat their young! and last but not least, you are a walking talking self explanation for birth control!

well, since i find southern accents difficult to understand, maybe no southern person with an accent should teach english…or maine…or for that matter texas. or those in the midwest who pronounce 'wash' 'warsh' or those massachusettes folk who pronounce 'horse' hoss'. maybe english teachers should only come from….hmmm…where….?? we are becoming a really hateful society. so sad.

and while they are there let them enforce the federal law against illegal immigration!

No, but you can overstay your visa-then you are illegal. I live in Boston and we have many “illegal” Irish living and working here. Nobody bothers them because they are white and speak english.

What are you replying to? Maybe you shouldn’t have been drinking that early in the day.

The accent should not be so heavy that it is hard to understand for students still learning English. It is hard enough when they do speak English. My granddaughter had a Social Studies teacher from Nigeria and she and the other students really struggled because she spoke English with a very heavy accent and it was hard to understand her thereby hard to learn.

Well I for one, am thrilled that Arizona, a state heavily dependent upon imports and tourism, is ridding itself of 8% of its work force as well as giving the police the same authority Weimar gave its police — to inspect anyone's papers. These measures, coupled with the elimination of ethnic studies as well as the vilification, removal of accent bearing instructors, ensures that the remaining 51 states will benefit from tourists and income that will NOT be coming to Arizona.

Keep up the good work Arizona! By the end of the year even Mexico won't want you back!

My man, very good. See how much you can learn when you hang around with progresively minded people?

Let’s see if I can drop something else fo’ya here:
I’m glad you understood my point about the government not controlling big business as we, for lack of a better term, progressives feel it should. As you said the politicains are bought and paid for, indeed this is true. But you see it is the republicans and Fox newsers’ who are dead set against any type of campaign finance reform or government oversight of these huge corporations. You see what we have here is not socialism, which is (now listen close) The government taking over business; we have fascism which is big business and corporations taking over the government.
Ok that’s enough for now. See you later.

I wonder if you will be cracked down upon if your heavy accent happens to be southern.

sandi2,guess by bad luck im here legal. damn, now i have to pay federal,state,social security and medicare tax that illegals dont pay while they demand all the rights and benefits of legals! i say give them their demanded rights and let them pay these taxes also!

half the teachers in arizona would fail… fucking trailer trash…in a trailer trash state.

I would believe that the head of the “Birthers” movement Orly Taitz would be in real trouble visiting Arizona, she needs a translator when she “TRYS” to speak English!
Michelle Malkin had better have her birth certificate ready, her skin color could put her in jail!

Tries

Better a boy friend than a stump broke cow.

I am home and don’t intend to visit.

Better a frog than a skunk.

Southerners don’t retire because they can’t tell time and they don’t travel north because they can’t read a compass. It’s “hospitality” not “hospatality” and it’s not all that enjoyable spelled either way

Typical redneck subterfuge, return to your trailer and back to your perverse video games. Leave the dogs alone, Purvis.

I’m just a simple country boy, what exactly are you?

Do you have your voting papers, Leon?

Can’t quite understand you Rufus when you speak in tongues…

Well at least my mother HAD legs, yes I encourage trailer trash to eat their young and I support a woman’s right to reproduce only the best and the brightest to avoid birthing unregistered idiots like yourself.

I never said he applied for a job. The point that you need to get, however, is that there are exceptions to every rule. And the college saying that they don’t have the resouces to do background checks sounds like an excuse to get them out of trouble to me. Also, as someone who teaches immigrants, I can tell you the vast majority do NOT go to college, so there are not thousands trying to get this one liar’s spot. I’m lucky if my students graduate high school instead of dropping out.

first off,im my own man,not yours.glad you are perfect because if i remember correctly,progresive thinkers, as yourself, crucified the last perfect person.now,back to the original issue.big business has and always will run the govt.,just remember “money talks,bullshit walks.”this is why we have illegal immigrants,so big business,such as monsanto and conag will have cheap and expendable labor in the agricultural business.just make immigrants legal.i don’t agree with all phases of the az law,especially the teacher part,but i do agree that if your not here legally any children born while here are not given automatic citizenship.bottom line,if it’s the law,enforce it,if it’s a bad law,change it.just one more question which you continually dance around,what is your phobia about the south?

thas rite! keep yu cunfiderite mony caus da souf is gonna ris agin! you dumb fuckin uneducated asshole,the south is not responsible for all that is wrong with this country! if you could get your head out of your ass long enough you would realise this.it is people like you! racist and bigots!

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i said get the illegals out and replace them with some of the thousands of legal applicants.if you are a true educator,thank you. this country needs all the education it can get.

you dumb uppity bitch,how do you bomb a whole state? oh wait! maybe we can drop trailer park trash on it!

you dumb uppity bitch,how do you bomb a whole state? oh wait! maybe we can drop trailer park trash on it!

apparently you didn”t see an earlier post of mine. i said irish,german,british,asian,etc.if they are here illegal they need to go home and be replaced by someone legal.here is another reason for you to dislike me,GO YANKEES!

apparently you didn”t see an earlier post of mine. i said irish,german,british,asian,etc.if they are here illegal they need to go home and be replaced by someone legal.here is another reason for you to dislike me,GO YANKEES!

boycott people like you also,like ron white said,(you can”t fix stupid.)you haven”t posted lately,where you been? grindin ya monkey?

boycott people like you also,like ron white said,(you can”t fix stupid.)you haven”t posted lately,where you been? grindin ya monkey?

simple you are! most country boys are referred to as “rednecks” is this a classic case of the kettle calling the pot black?

simple you are! most country boys are referred to as “rednecks” is this a classic case of the kettle calling the pot black?

do you speak from experience?

do you speak from experience?

be glad monkey man,because if we could we might just find you and ‘subject’ you to some good ol southern “hospatality.” yes we do retire which is why i have time to sit at this computer and fuck with the minds of idiots like you.did you go to school and if you did i bet you rode the “little” yellow school bus.

be glad monkey man,because if we could we might just find you and ‘subject’ you to some good ol southern “hospatality.” yes we do retire which is why i have time to sit at this computer and fuck with the minds of idiots like you.did you go to school and if you did i bet you rode the “little” yellow school bus.

i do not drink. maybe you should,then you could somewhat justify your ignorance!

i do not drink. maybe you should,then you could somewhat justify your ignorance!

what is your “fear” monkey boy?

what is your “fear” monkey boy?

does the name HITLER ring a bell?

does the name HITLER ring a bell?

So why did you respond to my post in that way another case of “open mouth,insert dumb ass foot” . You are one miserable “human”? being. GO RED SOX!!!!

By the way, I already have more than enough reasons to dislike you nitwit.

seems you know a lot about vaseline , fresh meat, and prison!

Look in the mirror and try to justify your existence you ignorant sob. No use talking to someone who can’t hear because their head is so far up their ass. Go back and smoke some more crack-and have a great day:)!!!

There you go again thinking like Ronald Reagan; he’s dead you know.

No you are free to explore the barn though. You may want to start with a chicken.

since you left the states and went down under,what nationality do you claim “mate?”

is your wife from alabama?

Sounds like a threat to me, pseudo-citizen.

stay. give me an illegal immigrant over someone who turns their back on their country anyday.

PLEASE,TO ALL OF YOU SELF RIGHTGEOUS ASSHOLES WHO BLAME ALL THE EVILS OF THIS COUNTRY ON “REDNECKS” LOOK UP THE DEFINITION IN THE DICTIONARY!

YOU ARE NOT IN THE U.S.A. SO SHUT THE FUCK UP!

Citizen Bubba, you are posting as a guest and RAW needs all the viewers it can get particularly those who can think and spell. As a general rule the comments on this site do not fall to the level of yours. Yours and many other redneck comments fit perfectly into the marginalized thinking category that includes putting frogs in peoples pockets, assuming that all non rednecks are gay, snickering at each others testicles, pulling the girls pigtails in class, pulling the wings off of flies, torturing their teachers and instructors, worshiping idiots like George Bush and Glenn Beck, performing unspeakable acts on barnyard animals and voting Republican. You sit at the back of the class and model your life after Wiley Coyote and Daffy Duck. You become a parody of ignorance and hold up your fundamentalist religion and its Messianic caricature when you run out of ideas. If you and your pals “could” find me I would confound the lot of you with spelling questions and reduce you further to muttering mutations of mendacity. Now put your dunce cap back on and return to the corner for a few more lifetimes. Don’t trip over your suspenders and give my regards to the rest of the Klan.

MAKE UP YOUR MIND “MATE” you have referred to “our” prime minister, “our” (australian) economy. you refer to “our” (american) constitution,and when “we”get your state in court (az). you don’t tell the whole truth. tell everyone how you turned your back on your own country and moved to austrailia because you did’t like bush politics.you advocate all this change in a country you no longer support! you say someday when i come home to the U.S.A. someday,please stay where you are,i for one don’t want you back, and you no longer have the right to voice an opinion on my countries politics.so shut the fuck up!

let me splain lucy, it’s because every time you open your mouth you stick your foot in it. do i detect a little hurt feelings? sorry,but if you can,t take it,don,t dish it.

there you go,replying as a true wannabe politician.dance around the question,if you don’t understand it,i will try to explain!

let’s see,you denounce the cow,but not the boyfriend. interesting.

in the barn with your boyfriend?

You’re the one with the hurt feelings, hence all the name calling. Maybe you should move out of your mothers basement and get a life. Or just go away you little gnat. And finally-”if you can,t take it,don,t dish it.”
Wouldn’t you be more comfortable at Fux Nation with everyone who “thinks” (and I use that term loosely) like you. This site is for grown-ups.

Did the Good Lord have papers when his family took him to Egypt under the cover of night? If “learning our language” is so important to you, why don’t you speak Navajo, or another “American” language?
Also, in 1910, the only requirements for coming legally to the U.S. were the ability to walk, be cholera free and not be Chinese or a polygamist. Are you so sure they would not have immigrated if the laws were different?
Also, undocumented immigrants do not qualify for Medicare or Welfare. As far as education, when you refer to “those who have no legal right to be in this country” , I assume you refer to the U.S. citizen children who happen to be born to parents without papers? The ones who are US citizens for the same reason you are, because you were born here?
Before quoting the bible to justify your frustration against your fellow man, try reading the beatitudes. Who would Jesus deport? Thank you for considering my comments.

I appreciate all your comments. Bravo! Well said!

The pay sucks???LOL for 8 months work these teachers makeanywhere from $30,000 to
75000 dollars . This does not include the cost of other benefits they pay zero for.
they are overpaid in my book.

then “think” about growing up. i refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person!

then “think” about growing up. i refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person!

They complain about 'coma'. I'm from Canada, and when I go to the south, all of the Americans sound like they're saying Camel.

A person can have a Ph.D. and still be a terrible Superintendent of Public Instruction

OOOH that hurts Ha Ha It took you so long to come back with that lame response. Better not ever argue with yourself the! Now please find someone else to stalk-us grown ups have work to do.

Does this include teachers with hillbilly accents and teabaggers who can't spell? What if Spanish teachers have gringo accents? Does that count? One would want a real-life Peggy Hill teaching Ess-pah-nole.

Heavy accent? Ahh, I see… You mean that southern drawl that is barely understandable, right?

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What does your comment have to do with accents? I can’t imagine that you would believe that anyone with an accent is illegal… We have Southern Accents and Eastern Accents– which break down as far as areas (such as the Bronx or Jersey) So what would you do with all those people? Because it is normal where they are, but in Arizona the accent would be substantial. Would you deport them back to New York? Or consider them “illiterate on English” (Russell Pearce, 2010) because they don’t speak like you do? Supposedly our nation had evolved beyond this.. I guess there must be some “heathens” who haven’t caught up with the progress…

Yes it does. Hitler appears daily on the Glenn Beck show as a role model for skin heads. You hearing bells now? See if it’s the milk cow in the living room again.

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EVERYONE HAS AN ACCENT. There are different accents in different regions of the USA. Some of these accents by Mainstream Americans could be described as “heavy” and difficult to understand by people from a different region. My grandmother had a heavy German accent although she was born in the USA. Her accent was the result of the influence of the people closest to her who spoke with a German accent. Any determination of whether or not an accent would be “acceptable” would be subjective and susceptible to bias. As to a test of spoken grammar for teachers, any test of that sort should also be given to the Arizona legislators. Does it follow then that if their spoken grammar is “incorrect,” they should give up their legislative seat?

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Hey Varney, you need to check your facts. 8 months of work is silly. You should probably look into what teachers really do, time invested and now money out of their pockets because no budgets. Yeah maybe you're right (tongue in cheek), perhaps teachers only work a basketball season, or football season right to your point. But they not our heroes athletes are. Should these athletes make that much for the same amount of “time” as you put it that teachers put in. I always just shake my head with people like you.

I had a college algebra teacher 20 years ago with such a heavy Indian accent that I had to drop the class because I couldn’t understand 90% of what he said. It was AWFUL. Note that this is coming from a person who had a step-father from Mexico and married to a man from Bosnia-Herzegovina…I am not someone who is afraid of on unable to discern what an English-Foreign speaker is saying nor do I discriminate against any race. I am extremely patient with and sensitive to other cultures. Determining a person’s understandability is something that should happen at the interview process and should not have gotten the position in the first place.

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