Conservative pundits blame Obama for Israeli raid on flotilla

By Daniel Tencer
Wednesday, June 2, 2010 20:34 EST
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Kucinich: Flotilla raid jeopardizes US troops in Iraq

Some conservative commentators and lawmakers are pointing the finger of blame at President Barack Obama over Israel’s raid on a Gaza-bound humanitarian flotilla that ended with the death of nine activists.

On Tuesday, Sen. John McCain told Fox News that the Obama administration’s calls for a settlement freeze in the West Bank and in East Jerusalem set the stage for the deadly May 31 incident.

“This is another step in a chain of unfortunate events beginning with President Obama’s insistence that there be a freeze, as a precondition for peace talks, a freeze on settlements in Jerusalem,” McCain told Fox’s Sean Hannity. “Jerusalem is the capital of Israel, not a settlement.”

Talk show host Michael Savage linked President Obama to the flotilla raid much more directly. Savage told listeners that he believed the Israeli commandos sent on board the Mavi Marmara were “betrayed” so that their deaths would be “good PR” for Israel’s allies. (No Israeli service members died in the raid.) And he suggested it was the Obama administration that pressured Israel into “dangling [its] soldiers like bait into a tank of sharks.”

“As far as I know, it was Obama’s administration that told them how to do this attack,” Savage said. “It was probably one of America’s peace-loving generals, who knows which one of them did it.”

Savage then went on to suggest an even stranger theory: That the flotilla itself was set up by political extremists in the United States who have been linked to Obama.

“There are Web sites that are alleging that this was orchestrated not so much by Turkey but by the United States, from Chicago, by Bill Ayres and Bernadette Dhorn, who are members of the Free Gaza group.”

KUCINICH: FLOTILLA RAID JEOPARDIZES US TROOPS IN IRAQ

Ohio Congressman Dennis Kucinich, one of Congress’ most outspoken progressive leaders, has circulated a letter he wrote to President Obama calling on the United States to “redefine its relationship with Israel” in the wake of the Gaza flotilla raid, and said Israel’s actions posed a risk to US troops in Iraq.

Because the raid has strained Israel’s relations withTurkey, the Israeli raid “undermines United States’ troops efforts in Iraq, since your administration’s efforts to achieve stability in the region and to withdraw troops from Iraq has depended upon Turkey’s cooperation through use of its air bases,” Kucinich told Obama.

Kucinich said that while “no one questions the right of Israel to defend its border,” the country “must account for our support, for the lives of our soldiers, for the investment of billions from our taxpayers. Israel owes the United States more than reckless, pre-meditated violence waged against innocent people.”

Kucinich added that the raid must have “consequences for the Netanyahu Administration and for the State of Israel. Those consequences must be dealt by the United States. They must be diplomatic and they must be financial.”

The following video was broadcast on Fox News’ Hannity, June 1, 2010, and uploaded to the Web by ThinkProgress.

The following audio was broadcast on The Savage Nation, June 1, 2010, and uploaded to the Web by MediaMatters.

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  • pistoff

    conservatives blame obama for <insert disaster here>

    dont they know hes one of them?????

    fucking losers

  • wiseturtle

    fuck kkkonservatives!! Lowest scums on the planet!!!

  • CarlPagan

    That Krazy Kucinich. Always making so much sense. He must really piss off the NWO from time to time. He's got my vote.

  • Prattvictory

    They should have named the ship the Exodus or the St Louis. Then their act of provoking an international incident would have been considered heroic. Movies would be made to commemorate them.

  • Prattvictory

    Oh Fuck You John McCain.

  • KUCINICH OVER OBUMMER – 2012!

    Dennis Kucinich ONCE AGAIN speaking truth-to-power and standing toe-to-toe with the Poseur-in-Chief. Anyone not getting behind this GIANT of a Progressive in the coming primary (If he runs) has no reason to claim to be progressive and is addicted to the current mess in politics, the economy, and foreign “Wars of Aggression”!

  • dartshire

    Obama is one lonely politician now.

    He left his progressive base, naively hoping to become a grand unifier of the country. Now the neo-cons have crippled him. They simply won't let him into their clubhouse. And if Obama returns to progressives, the neo-cons will scream bloody leftist socialism.

    Basically, the ruthless neo-cons sensed that Obama valued national unity above any particular policy. So naturally they are using it as a hostage.

    He really should have stuck to his campaign platform. Then, despite controversy, he could at least make some policy changes and claim some credit.

    Instead, he's reduced to spending all his energy wading out of stalemate after stalemate.

  • Live Free or Die

    Gotta disagree with Kucinich on one thing; the punishment must be more severe than merely financial or economic.

    If a mere individual were to have committed the illegal acts committed by the state of Israel, the death penalty would apply. The death penalty needs to be applied here, too.

    If the sad, sad USA doesn't do it (and everyone knows Obama's scared pissless of the blue star) then Turkey should.

    Why is a rogue government allowed to get away with a massacre in international waters? They shouldn't. If they had boarded my boat, I would have fought tooth and nail, too. They're the ones in the wrong. You can't pretend truth when it's not there, Netanyahu, you Nazi!

  • Live Free or Die

    Instead, their act of heroism may lead to the final death of Israel. The Rachel Corrie will tell.

  • Live Free or Die

    Instead, their act of heroism may lead to the final death of Israel. The Rachel Corrie will tell.

  • Live Free or Die

    Brother, I've gotta love ANYONE who pisses of the NWO. The enemy of my enemy is my friend!

    Meanwhile, back to the root of all evil…

  • airjackie

    We know the GOP wouldn't lie and yes Obama killed Abe Lincoln, John Kennedy and yes he ordered the two Wars plus the Recession. The Republican Law Makers didn't do anything and we're still waiting for Bush/Cheney to take office. Natanyahu announced the raid was done with no injuries but a few Israel soldiers were hurt. Now today we watched many injured victims being carried out of the hospital and one lady lost her eye, but we still believe Natanyahu that there were no injuries. We also watch a woman and child being burned to death live on TV after being bombed by Israel soldiers with an illegal cluster bomb. Yes the soldiers were seen laughing and watching these two victims burn to death. But again Natanyahu said the victims did that to themselves and don't believe what you see. Israel's gold is to wipe the Palestine people off the face of the earth and take their land then move on to take over Egypt. Once a US Republican President gets back in office the US will follow Israel's orders and bomb Iran and Russia.

  • Live Free or Die

    wiseturtle, you must be a toad! Everyone knows that true Conservatives HATE the true lowest scum on the planet: The CIA, the Neocons, The Obama Deception, The NWO, and the Corporate and Banking Criminal Cartel, the new BCCI. Most conservatives are def not KKK.

  • Lyman

    I don't want to hear anymore about the holocaust. They have milked that baby dry.

  • Prattvictory

    Who in the US Administration was briefed on this attack in advance? It was known their were Americans on board these ships. All but one of them were flying American flags.

    I find it highly improbable that this came as a surprise to this Administration.

  • George

    As a European i can tell you that the word on the street over here is that the US and Israel are a laughing stock. Both countrys are seen as backward, incompetant and radical and whats happened over the past few days has galvanised that.

  • postroad

    No matter what position one takes in the Middle East mess, for our political figures to use this for political posturing is indeed sad.
    I suspect that much of what took place has not really as yet been available to the public, and that NSA has insights into a lot of what went on. If Al jazzera had videos before the assault, taken on board, then for sure our listening posts got hold of a good deal of electronic transmissions.

  • hi

    Actually Zionists are the lowest form of scum on the planet, followed closely by anyone who is stupid enough to support the terrorist sponsering apartheid theocracy of Israel.

  • YigPoo

    ROTFL, Obama is no more to blame than SpongeBob SquarePants himself LOL

    Lou
    http://www.web-anonymity.cz.tc

  • Anonymous

    It would be going a lot better if all the American Banks weren’t working to destroy their economies like they did ours, and in Greece, destabilizing the whole area. And which Bush was helping to find that Hitler Guy anyway? I forget.

  • Anonymous

    It would be going a lot better if all the American Banks weren’t working to destroy their economies like they did ours, and in Greece, destabilizing the whole area. And which Bush was helping to find that Hitler Guy anyway? I forget.

  • Anonymous

    It would be going a lot better if all the American Banks weren’t working to destroy their economies like they did ours, and in Greece, destabilizing the whole area. And which Bush was helping to find that Hitler Guy anyway? I forget.

  • HAMMY

    If they are settlements then they aren't a part of existing Israeli property and are meant to expand it's territory by simple occupation. Last I checked there wasn't any “free” land around Israel. Words provide the means to meaning, they tell the truth in media but they wrap opinions around truth like a piece of bacon of distortion wrapped around a piece of steak truth to make a filet mignon of placating news that tastes good but it's no more then a show piece to those that can separate it's elements.

  • Adam503

    Barack Obama steals one sock out of every load of laundry done in America.

  • Lyman

    Not true. I apologize. You survived a hell that none of us could ever imagine,
    I just wish that “Never again” applied to all of us.

  • Lyman

    Not true. I apologize. You survived a hell that none of us could ever imagine,
    I just wish that “Never again” applied to all of us.

  • Lyman

    Not true. I apologize. You survived a hell that none of us could ever imagine,
    I just wish that “Never again” applied to all of us.

  • new across

    Did you notice McCain states, “Jerusalem is the capital of Israel…”

    Jerusalem is not the capital of Israel.

    Tel aviv is the Capital of Israel recognized by the United States and the International community.

    Before I hear any advice from politicians on anything about Israel, it would be nice if they could at least know where Israel's Capital is located (hint…same town as the town where our embassy is located.

  • yvonneo

    Let's see…Savage is clearly a loon and mclame is a senile old fart suffering from lost-my-mind disease. Kucinich on the other hand speaks truth to power.

  • news across

    He has my vote! I always support Congressman Kucinich in the primaries.

  • skyguy

    I changed my mind! Rather than in 2012 a ticket of Paul/Kucinich, it should be Kucinich/Paul.

  • Frank

    Kucinich has been anti Israel for years. This is just another jab at Israel and shows why he is not a serious candidate for Pres.

  • KWillow

    My Brother In Law was a Major in the English Army, who was in Iraq during the early days of the Bush II war. He said the American's killed nearly as many of their own men with friendly fire as they killed enemies. He received a purple heart for a schrapnel cut on his arm. The rest of the world despises America, and our wonderful Military too.

  • lucky

    those kinds of cons (as you define it) are sure few and far between..

  • KUCINICH OVER OBUMMER – 2012!

    Considered Kucinich/Grayson?

  • hurly burly

    Good comment.
    Helen Thomas tries to cut through the shit for us

    http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/52804

  • maheanuu

    McCain told Fox's Sean Hannity. “Jerusalem is the capital of Israel, not a settlement.”

    John, John, you doofus son of a bitch, Israel's Capitol is not Jerusalem, and hasn't been for millenia. The Zionists stole that land after the 1967 war, you know John, The one where they damn near sunk the USS Liberty and murdered 34 of it's crew, Not much different that your OOPS on the Forrestal. Huh?

  • http://www.apartmentinbogota.com Neo

    I enjoyed very much reading this post, its very informative. Thanks!

  • Ummm, wrong

    Jerusalem is the capital of Israel.

    Now, the rest of what you say is right, that the international community doesn't accept Jerusalem as the Israeli capital. But since the entire government is run out of Jerusalem, it's just ignoring the reality on the ground.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem

  • kimbutgar

    It comes to the point that these people are ridiculous. Are they going to start blaming Obama that it was foggy today in San Francisco?

  • theoracle

    Slash and Burn Republicans continue to Slash and Burn the Truth.

  • fluminense

    “no one questions the right of Israel to defend its border” Blah Blah Blah… Gaza's Waters are not israeli. (period!)

  • randy

    Israel might own my government but they do not own me.

  • SnobsandBitches

    McCain doesn't even know the geographical location of Israel.There should a law preventing senile old men from farting in public…

  • fluminense

    Helen Thomas ROCKS!!!!! Always did and Always will!!!

  • Well Well Wel

    Kucinich gave you the fascist healthcare and Ron Paul wants to defund Israel along with every other Arab country in the middle east..then add in taking all the troops home from every country saving trillions of dollars and million of lives.

  • http://www.CompellingConversations.com Eric Roth

    Disturbing on mulitple levels as opinions exceed facts, and perspective seems to be lost.

    First, the flotilla was manned by Islamic activists and wannabe jihadists who want to break the embargo on … bullets, guns, missile launchers, missiles, and other military equipment. Since humanitarian aid and medicine gets after inspection, the Freedom Flotilla means the freedom to shoot missiles at Israel. That's hardly progressive, peaceful, or humane if you believe that Jews still count as people. (By the way, Hamas does not and they won election campaigning on an abolish Israel and “kill the last Jew behind the last tree platform.” So let's be clear about the who wants peace and who wants war here.

    Let's also compare and contrast both mainstream media and government reaction around the world to two recent naval events. A violent conflict broke out when Israel wanted to inspect the flotilla for weapons, boarded a ship, and nine Islamic militants were killed. This Israeli action led global protests against Israel, numerous governments immediately condemning Israel, a UN Security Council meeting, and editorials calling for the importation of weapons to Gaza.

    Now please juxtapose that intense, immediate response to almost universal silence when North Korea sank, without warning, a South Korean ship killing 46 sailors. No UN Security Council meeting in 50 days. No immediate outrage. No global protests outside of South Korea.

    May I suggest that the discrepancy reveals something about the prevalent bias against Israel and the still strong open hostility to Jews across the Mideast and too many parts of the world?

  • http://www.compellingconversations.com Eric the sceptic

    Perspective seems to have been lost here as opinions precede facts. Disappointing on multiple levels.

    the flotilla is full of jihadists wanting to end the embargo on…. bullets, guns, missile launchers, missiles. Humanitarian aid and medicine gets in … and gets inspected.

    Let's zoom out and get some perspective.

    Shall we compare and contrast both mainstream media and government reaction around the world to two recent naval events? Israel enforces a ban on military contraband to a regime committed to jihad which has already launched over 8,000 missilies into Israel. Instantly, global protesters attack Israel, numerous governments immediately condemn Usrael, a UN Security Council meeting expresses concern and demands an investigation, and editorials call for lifting the ban on weapons to Gaza. That's what happens when 9 Islamic militants are killed at sea running a blockade.

    Please juxtapose that popular response to the almost universal silence when North Korea sank, without warning, a South Korean ship killing 46 sailors. No UN Security Council meeting in 50 days. No immediate outrage. No global protests outside of South Korea.

    May I suggest that the discrepancy reveals something about the prevalent bias against Israel and the still strong open hostility to Jews across the Mideast and too many parts of the world?

  • http://www.compellingconversations.com Eric the sceptic

    Get away with stopping Islamic militants from delivering military aid? Preventing a second Gaza war? Enforcing a ban on the importation of tanks, missiles, and other military equipment?

    Just as many noble, gentle folks refused to condemn Germany's treatment of minorities prior to WWII out of a passionate commitment to pacifism, far too many naive western progressives simply refuse to acknowledge the growing menace of Islamic jihadism. The five boats of humanitarians allowed their ship to be inspected, and the aid is ready to be delivered. The sixth boat, full of self-proclaimed jihadists seeking martyrdom, resisted and nine “warriors of Allah” died. It was plan – and their choice. Read the obituaries of the nine men who died. Do you really want to identify with jihadists?

  • moonman

    dam stait the should rethink rethink the 7million dollars a day they give them for their millitary

  • fukum

    Megiddo is going to be the new capitol of Israel if they don't cut it out.

  • http://www.compellingconversations.com Eric the sceptic

    As an American whose ancestors rescued Europe from self-destruction twice in the last 100 years, and imposed the peace that allows European utopianism to flourish, I resent the idea that your dying civilizations are in a position to judge America.

    By the way, how is that Eurozone and pan-European bureaucratic state going?

  • Max Bunko

    McCain has to be getting into his dotage. Obama is a putz but he certainly is not Israel. The butchers of Zion got this schtick all by their lonesome, murdering bastards. They own the media and control the spin but they cannot wrest the truth of their action from reality, spin goes so far then we get mad. You all know about the power of No? That is all you have to say to these bastards and the air is sucked out of their power.

  • sandi2

    This has nothing to do with Jews. Many of my most loved friends and mentors are Jews. What they are not is Zionists who feel that they are superior to all other peoples of the world. My Jewish friends know the difference between between good and evil. The Zionists in control of the nation of Israel do not. They commit evil but are mistakenly convinced they are doing good. Being good means allowing others freedom. By holding Palestinians hostage in an open-air prison they are being evil. Hopefully, YHWH will will show them the error of their ways.

  • http://twitter.com/shivabeach Shiva

    I dont care what anyone redefines, just stop sending them money. Both sides. Its like giving lipstick to palin

  • SnobsandBitches

    Breaking news, The Israeli government through the voice of his Reich Fuhrer Benjamin Lethalyahoo, claims that Saddam Hussein invisible weapons of mass destruction were on-board the ship & it was therefore justified to send Israeli boy scouts dressed as commandos to slaughter a bunch of tree hugging Al Qaida operatives……God bless the Chosen people.

  • Anonymous

    It is not enmity or enemy of my enemy, we must condemn any action by any and all barbaric forces in the international waters. HOW COULD ZIONIST ENTITY DARE ATTACK A PURE UNARMED, INNOCENT EXPEDITION LIKE “Aid Flotilla” and nobody in this so called civilised world come to their rescue? How shameful these leaders can be? In the whole congress just one person condemning this attack and again behind a smoke screen? SHAME !!!! SHAME !!!! SHAME!!!

  • fukum
  • sandi2

    Give it a rest, Eric. I have been following the “Free Gaza” movement for a couple of years and each time they send aid Israel has gotten more confrontational. The last time they kidnapped a U.S. presidential candidate, a poet laureate, and a British MP. Killing Turkish peace activists was predictable given the fact that Turkey was instrumental in providing Iran a means to achieve peaceful nuclear energy production so that Israel has no real reason to force the U.S. to attack them. How dare Turkey help maintain peace in the region! What good is all those non-declared nuclear weapons if Israel can't use them to force their neighbors into submission?

  • sandi2

    Who do you work for Eric? You change names but can't be bothered to change posts. I'm probably stupid for being a free-lance writer who only writes about things I am convinced are true and that's also probably why I'm not rich. But. . . no one can say I'm a hypocrite. How about you? At the end of the day are you at peace with yourself?

  • http://www.zoombits.co.uk/ micro sd card

    Republicans no doubt, but not conservative. I have not heard a lot of thinking or conservative McCain, Savage or Hannity. But then, considering the source, these guys are much more right to MEH.

  • sandi2

    Kucinich said that while “no one questions the right of Israel to defend its border,” the country “must account for our support, for the lives of our soldiers, for the investment of billions from our taxpayers. Israel owes the United States more than reckless, pre-meditated violence waged against innocent people.”

    I'm a big supporter of Kucinich and can understand that he's playing politics. It's his job. But, really, Israel doesn't recognize borders. Never has and never will until they have the best land of the Middle East to themselves. That's why they've never entered into a defense treaty with the United States. To become allies with the U.S. then Israel would have to define national borders. They won't do it. And, so, to this date, Israel is not an ally with the U.S.

  • sandi2

    Uh, do you know anything? Kucinich is for single-payer health
    care which we did NOT get and, if we had, we'd all be much better off.

  • RepublicansAreADisease

    Whoda thunkit. Right wing lying hate merchants blaming Obama for “everything” once again. Who could possibly be against Israel's right to bulldoze people's houses, and put up “their” settlements in their place. It's not like “those” people should complain about living in “camps” or stuff…. I am sure Michael Savage (who is probably not even a human being) wouldn't mind someone bulldozing his crib, and building a Madrasa…. Haha.

    http://www.RepublicansAreADisease.com

    Maybe Savage could check PNAC's website for some more direction… Or better yet, hasten the end times….

    Lunatic.

    Selling hate for a paycheck. There is scum, and then there is a whole nother layer of scum. Savage, Rush, Hannity, and the rest. Selling hate to inbreeds that want to blame others for their own pathetic hate and rage filled empty lives. Makes me want to puke.

  • RepublicansAreADisease

    dartshire, I guess you didn't see Obama's speech in Pennsylvania today. He came out and said “It's an agenda that basically offers two answers to every problem we face: more tax breaks for the wealthy and fewer rules for corporations,” Obama said. I could barely believe my ears. Telling the truth for once. I am sorry Barack. Treating the Republicans like anything except vermin only encourages them. About time you figured it out. You can call them out on their hypocrisy, and make fun of them at the same time, and work on good legislation to boot.

  • RepublicansAreADisease

    And McCain screams “Get off my lawn!!!”

    McCain + Palin = the saddest joke America has ever seen at the polls. And McCain is about as good as they come when it comes to Republicons.

    http://www.RepublicansAreADisease.com

    Psst Sarah. That dude next door is looking at yer house. Boo!

  • RepublicansAreADisease

    Frank, wake up. Someone is bulldozing your house. You didn't need it anyway right?

    If Israel wanted peace, there would be peace. The warmongers won't let it happen. They would loose a little power, and that would not be acceptable.

  • Anonymous

    With your name, “Live Free or Die” we are fast approaching the moment when you’ll be asked, “What size coffin.”

  • RepublicansAreADisease

    Yeah sky guy. Kucinich can run the country for the benefit of folks that are not billionaires. Paul can live in his Libertarian fantasy land where the government is bad until something bad happens and then all the Libertarians line up with their hands out demanding the government's help. Just like Michell Bachman demanding the government do more in the gulf. We all knew Michelle was a lunatic though. Hey Michelle. You want to find anti Americans in government, check out the last president. You know, the one that handed off a 1.7 trillion dollar deficit, and helped the banks rob trillions from all of us on his way out.

    Paul is a lunitic. I love him because he is truly genuine and believes that insane Libertarian fantasy crap that wouldn't work in a commune, much less a country. At least he doesn't think we need to spend 2 trillion a year on the military industrial crooks. He sure has one thing right.

  • RepublicansAreADisease

    Grayson/Kucinich

  • RepublicansAreADisease

    I say give Israel back to the Palestinians, and give Texas to the Israelis. Kill 1 1/2 birds with one stone. I am sure the talibangelicals in Texas will get along fine with the rapture Jew dudes. Think about it. Makes sense.

  • RepublicansAreADisease

    I have an idea. For every dollar we give Israel, give one to the Palestinians. Sounds fair right?

  • Anonymous

    There is a prinicple in emotional couseling that has proven to be true: that someone who has been abused will subsequenctly abuse. The same principle holds true for nations and coherent populations as it does for individuals. The Jewish population was severely abused by the Third Reich (and others). That national memory is still strong. Their treatment of Palestinians mirrors the treatment they received from the Nazis. Only by a determined, conscious effort can the chain of abuse be broken. Islamic jihadism is just an excuse to abuse the Palestinians.

  • Anonymous

    Grayson is good, but Kucinich has more experience.

  • truth

    Either combination will work there. they are about the only 2 politicians worth their salt

  • Anonymous

    The reality on the ground is that the shithole known as “Israel” will be gone before they ever get their precious Jerusalem capital recognized by the rest of humanity that aren’t monsters.

    Israeli society is like one big family of pedophiles that prays on its own.

  • Anonymous

    The reality on the ground is that the shithole known as “Israel” will be gone before they ever get their precious Jerusalem capital recognized by the rest of humanity that aren’t monsters.

    Israeli society is like one big family of pedophiles that prays on its own.

  • Anonymous

    The reality on the ground is that the shithole known as “Israel” will be gone before they ever get their precious Jerusalem capital recognized by the rest of humanity that aren’t monsters.

    Israeli society is like one big family of pedophiles that prays on its own.

  • Anonymous

    Nice thought yvonneo – but we all know it will never happen. Israhell controls America through AIPAC and all of the Jewish politicians who infest the Obushma administration. Yes, some of them have given a tepid slap-down to Israhell, but that tribe always will stick together in the end. I know there are alot of American Jews who are not happy with what Israhell is doing, but I am not seeing many of them marching in the streets and denouncing these constant acts of thuggery.

    If it was not for Israel, there would have been peace in the middle east decades ago – and we would not be stuck in two wars which only enrich the MIC and their parasitic companies like Halliburton and XE.

  • Anonymous

    Nice thought yvonneo – but we all know it will never happen. Israhell controls America through AIPAC and all of the Jewish politicians who infest the Obushma administration. Yes, some of them have given a tepid slap-down to Israhell, but that tribe always will stick together in the end. I know there are alot of American Jews who are not happy with what Israhell is doing, but I am not seeing many of them marching in the streets and denouncing these constant acts of thuggery.

    If it was not for Israel, there would have been peace in the middle east decades ago – and we would not be stuck in two wars which only enrich the MIC and their parasitic companies like Halliburton and XE.

  • Anonymous

    Nice thought yvonneo – but we all know it will never happen. Israhell controls America through AIPAC and all of the Jewish politicians who infest the Obushma administration. Yes, some of them have given a tepid slap-down to Israhell, but that tribe always will stick together in the end. I know there are alot of American Jews who are not happy with what Israhell is doing, but I am not seeing many of them marching in the streets and denouncing these constant acts of thuggery.

    If it was not for Israel, there would have been peace in the middle east decades ago – and we would not be stuck in two wars which only enrich the MIC and their parasitic companies like Halliburton and XE.

  • Anonymous

    Militant: Anyone who fights back after being attacked by either America or Israel. Nuff said.

  • Anonymous

    Militant: Anyone who fights back after being attacked by either America or Israel. Nuff said.

  • Anonymous

    Militant: Anyone who fights back after being attacked by either America or Israel. Nuff said.

  • Anonymous

    So true smallbear. When people have nothing to lose and not future – but only bleakness – they LOSE IT. Desperation is what causes people to become suicide bombers. They have no weapons against the military behemoth that is Israel – so they do what they can do to fight back, including killing themselves in the process. Terrorism does not arise in a vacuum. There is a cause and an effect.

  • Anonymous

    So true smallbear. When people have nothing to lose and not future – but only bleakness – they LOSE IT. Desperation is what causes people to become suicide bombers. They have no weapons against the military behemoth that is Israel – so they do what they can do to fight back, including killing themselves in the process. Terrorism does not arise in a vacuum. There is a cause and an effect.

  • Anonymous

    So true smallbear. When people have nothing to lose and not future – but only bleakness – they LOSE IT. Desperation is what causes people to become suicide bombers. They have no weapons against the military behemoth that is Israel – so they do what they can do to fight back, including killing themselves in the process. Terrorism does not arise in a vacuum. There is a cause and an effect.

  • Benway for the Nova Police

    As usual McCain gets it bass ackwards. Obama is certainly partially responsible, but not because of anything to do with settlements, but because of his coddling of the Israeli terrorists.

  • Benway for the Nova Police

    That Raw Story wants to couch this in terms of Right vs. Left says something about Raw Story's inability to see the forest for the trees. Murder on the high seas isn't a matter of politics. It's a matter of criminality. And yes, the settlements are criminal too. So says the World Court.

  • http://www.facebook.com/nickpolnick Melvin Polatnick

    Thousands of hate filled suicide bombers have blown themselves apart in a holy war against the INFIDEL. But they are only a tip of the iceberg, for every suicide bomber there are a million supporters. In the final battle, the power of reason will prevail, and the hated INFIDEL will become the guiding light for those who curse the free world while living in darkness.

  • Anonymous

    Dennis, I don’t care if you have to walk … do not, I reapeat, DO NOT get on any charter aircraft.

  • Anonymous

    Dennis, I don’t care if you have to walk … do not, I reapeat, DO NOT get on any charter aircraft.

  • Syed92

    The whole civilised and humane world does blame us, THE USA and its executive chief for the attack on unarmed, civilized, humane, best souls of this world as if it is USA that attacked the innocent people of HUMANITARIAN AID TO OPPRESSED PEOPLE OF GAZA.

  • Isaac

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    When Hamas upset the apple cart and won, Bush 2, the neocons and Israel were outraged. All the efforts put into the election to assure Abbas victory came to naught. Having democracy “fail,” the policy wonks turned to other means. One of which was to encourage civil war between Hamas and Fatah. An attempt by Abbas to overthrow the Hamas government ended with a Hamas victory. It was then that Bush 2 and Israel turned to siege warfare on Gaza. Humanitarian funds were cut–the US pressured our Western allies to comply. Severe restrictions on what could go into Gaza were enforced by Israel and our man in Cairo. Israel resorted to military actions when Gazans tried to break the barrier. Resistance to this brought about the horrendous assault of 2008 and eventually Goldstone Report.

    The suffering of Gaza was our making as well as Israel’s. Netanyahu’s worry that future ships will bring missiles into Gaza does have a solution–make a real, just and comprehensive peace with the Palestinians. Each new clash brings Israelis apologists out to defend what most of the world now views as indefensible. The US support for Israel and what it does will continue, the human tragedy of Gaza will continue, and the never ending war on terror will continue.

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    Question #1 (25 points): Who is the INFIDEL?
    Question #2 (30 points): How many tips does your iceberg have?
    Question #3 (50 points): Whatthefuckareyoutalkingabout?
    Question #4 (75 points): How many points have you won?

  • rts111

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  • truth

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    Everything you have said about the PEACE DEMONSTRATORS is FALSE. No Surprise, all you scumbag Zionists have left are lies, lies, lies.

    No one believes you guys anymore, AIPAC troll.

    Drop the victim act all ready, your genocidal fascist ways have now placed you right next to your old buddies the Nazi's in History. Hopefully history will have the same result for you.

    Enjoy your stay….

  • truth

    Kucinich is one of the only politicians that puts the American People in front of the special interests or corporations and apartheid regimes like Israel- THAT is why he is not a serious contender for the presidency.

  • sunshipway

    Kucinich said that while “no one questions the right of Israel to defend its border,”

    That's quite an assumption. I guess there are a lot of “no ones” around… What if a “no one” who was actually “someone” did question their “right to defend 'their' border”? Qu'est que c'est then?

    BTW, I don't think they have any “borders”, or “boundaries” for that matter.

    Kucinich sounds like another wolf in sheep's clothing. Funny how our “representatives” talk the big talk, but when it comes down to it, they are really just towing the same ol', same ol', “poor Israel, wha, wha, wha, they need more money, and their “rights”, they are only defending their “rights”"… Notice he doesn't mention their “wrongs”, without mentioning their “rights” first?

    Like Einstein said (well, almost): Insanity is voting for the same lunatics over and over again expecting different results.

    Congress is bought and paid for by AIPAC, and the other Big Lobby Groups, Big Oil, Big Business, the Big I-don't-give-a-shit-about-you-or-anybody-else Lobby, etc. – NO politician can get voted in without their support. So voting will not change ANYTHING! And if you don't believe me, just ask Einstein – he can tell you how all the formulas add up.

    BTW2: Where are the “We The People” lobby groups? Not on the front pages, that's for sure!

  • dennycrane

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  • sunshipway

    Actually, I usually like Kucinich, but the premise is just wrong – Israel wouldn't have to “defend” its border if it treated people like human beings – but, you know – we are all just “goyim” to them – even the Sephardic Jews in Israel are treated badly – it is only the Ashkenazi Jews who are “privileged”.

  • RoadScholar

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    Thank you. Imagine what William F. Buckley would think of Michelle Bachmann or Caribou Barbie.

  • sharonsj

    You have it backwards. Israel has to defend its borders because its neighbors want it gone and all Jews driven into the sea. Muslims do not consider Jews to be human beings. Have you read the Hamas and Palestinian charters lately? Have you listened to the propaganda spouted by the Arab media? Do you know that Jordan is a true apartheid state? It refuses to allow Jews to become citizens or own land. And Palestinians living in Jordan have brutally treated. Do a little research before you spout your own propaganda.

  • 5by5

    Michael Savage Wiener: “As far as I know, it was Obama's administration that told them how to do this attack. “It was probably one of America's peace-loving generals, who knows which one of them did it.”

    As far as I know, Michael Wiener is a moron.

    Why is this idiot given a mike and a multi-million dollar platform to spew nonsense from? Should he be the crazy guy screaming on the street-corner? That really is the proper forum for his level of “discourse”.

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  • Natty

    We don't have “hate speech” in America, just free speech. “If we don't believe in the freedom of the people we oppose we don't believe in freedom at all”— Noam Chomsky

    The Jury verdict is in. Izreal lost. Izreal judged GUILTY. You can argue about the juries verdict, just so long as you know the verdict is in…The World has spoken.

  • sickofIsrealshate

    Raw, I agree with the comment below. There is SO MUCH to report out there, yet you continue to play the left right paradigm…. playing on people emotions by posting articles like this. Obama doesnt deserve to be BLAMED but he DOES deserve to be critisized for not speaking out against what the Isreali's did.

  • chabuka

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  • stratdude

    It is an IQ thing. Obama is not responsible for the raid. Anyone with an IQ greater than a goat's knows that. People with IQs lower than a goat are responsible for conservatives.

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  • mind boggling

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  • sunshipway

    I'll have you know that I have done plenty of research on the matter. If the Zionists hadn't come in with their relentless and brutal massacres of 1948 in order to steal the land from the current inhabitants, maybe you would have some moral arguments. Premeditated? YES: the Balfour Declaration, before that, the First Zionist Congress held in Basel in 1897, etc., just ask your own Benjamin Freedman!

    But, I guess in your eyes, “Israel can do no wrong”, is “completely blameless” and the Arabs have NO reason whatsoever to be even a little perturbed by the “innocent” Zionist actions, right?

    The Zionists have hijacked the Jewish peoples – and the rest of the world for that matter – for their own monstrous evil ends.

    So, you are defending the Zionists? What have they ever done for you? Do they pay you really well to spout their propaganda?

    Don't you know that they couldn't give two shits about you? Have you ever been to Israel? I haven't – but I know quite a few people who have – and the Israelis do whatever they please – no limits, no regard for “rights”. Yet, they have the uneducated, ignorant people of the world believing that they are a “Democracy” and our own politicians will defend Zionist “rights” until they're blue in the face. What a joke! Check out what another one of your “self-hating” Jewish brethren has to say about Israel:

    “THE LIFE OF AN AMERICAN JEW IN RACIST MARXIST ISRAEL” by Jack Bernstein

    http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/cgi-bin/blogs/vo…

    I'll take his word over yours unless you can prove otherwise… Peace out…

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  • thoroughlydisgustedwithobama

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  • rts111

    Thanks sunshipway: By far the most informative posting I have read all week.
    Anyone who cares to comment on these issues should read this text by Jack Bernstein.

    http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/cgi-bin/blogs/vo…

    Please, I would like to read comments regarding Bernstein's text by Jews-in-the-know, who are defending Israel's actions.

    Clarify Bernstein's agruments if you can?
    Put these histories into a context that the rest of the world can understand?

  • Loonie

    They probably blame Obama for the Great Chicago Fire, the Irish potato famine and the extinction of the dinosaurs.

    Conservative pundits abandoned reality long ago, after its liberal bias became apparent.

  • sunshipway

    Thank you rts111 for your educated response and questions. I would like to see some answers to those questions too. Where are all the trolls when you need them? Notice how they run and hide when they are faced with solid information?

    Come on sharonsj – I answered you, where are your answers to the above points?

  • fliminense

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  • hanoc202

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