Goldman Sachs sold $250 million of BP stock before spill

By John Byrne
Wednesday, June 2, 2010 10:12 EST
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Firm’s stock sale nearly twice as large as any other institution; Represented 44 percent of total BP investment

The brokerage firm that’s faced the most scrutiny from regulators in the past year over the shorting of mortgage related securities seems to have had good timing when it came to something else: the stock of British oil giant BP.

According to regulatory filings, RawStory.com has found that Goldman Sachs sold 4,680,822 shares of BP in the first quarter of 2010. Goldman’s sales were the largest of any firm during that time. Goldman would have pocketed slightly more than $266 million if their holdings were sold at the average price of BP’s stock during the quarter.

If Goldman had sold these shares today, their investment would have lost 36 percent its value, or $96 million. The share sales represented 44 percent of Goldman’s holdings — meaning that Goldman’s remaining holdings have still lost tens of millions in value.

The sale and its size itself isn’t unusual for a large asset management firm. Wall Street brokerages routinely buy and sell huge blocks of shares for themselves and their clients. In light of a recent SEC lawsuit arguing that Goldman kept information about a product they sold from their clients, however, the stock sale may raise fresh concern among Goldman’s critics. Goldman is also a frequent target of liberals and journalists, including Rolling Stone‘s Matt Taibbi, who famously dubbed the firm a “vampire squid.”

Two calls placed to Goldman Sachs’ media office in New York Wednesday morning after US markets opened were not immediately returned, though Raw Story decided to publish the story quickly after the calls since the stock sale had been already noted online.

Others also sold stock

Other asset management firms also sold huge blocks of BP stock in the first quarter — but their sales were a fraction of Goldman’s. Wachovia, which is owned by Wells Fargo, sold 2,667,419 shares; UBS, the Swiss bank, sold 2,125,566 shares.

Wachovia and UBS also sold much larger percentages of their BP stock, at 98 percently and 97 percent respectively.

Wachova parent Wells Fargo, however, bought 2.3 million shares in the quarter, largely discounting Wachovia’s sales.

Those reported buying BP’s stock included Wellington Management, a large asset firm, and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.

BP is struggling to cap a massive oil leak at one of its drill sites in the Gulf of Mexico. The firm’s myriad safety violations over the years have come to light in lieu of the Gulf disaster.

BP traded on average at $56.86 in the first quarter, according to GuruFocus, a site that monitors the major trading moves of prominent investors. A list of major institutions’ sales of BP stock are available at the market research website Morningstar.

It’s certainly unknown as to why the firms sold their holdings. In its analysis of the company in mid-March, Morningstar, the market research site, gave the company an average rating of three out of a possible five stars.

“BP’s valuation carries more uncertainty than ExxonMobil’s or Shell’s because the firm is less integrated, with more of its earnings coming from the [exploration and production] business than from potentially offsetting refining operations,” the site’s analyst wrote. “Like its peers, a sustained drop in oil and gas prices can hurt upstream earnings. Lower crude-oil feedstock costs could help refining margins, but refined product pricing lags could quickly swing refining profits to losses. BP’s global business faces potential disruptions caused by political risks, particularly with its heavy exposure to Russia. Disruptions caused by environmental and operational constraints could further limit earnings potential.”

The transnational oil company, like other energy giants, was hit with lower oil and gas prices in the past year after the price of oil surged in 2008.

“BP’s fourth quarter marked another quarter of year-over-year production gains, with a 3% increase thanks to new field startups,” Morningstar’s analyst wrote in another note, after BP turned in better than expected fourth quarter results in February. “BP reported fourth-quarter replacement cost profit of $3.4 billion, up 33% from year-ago earnings of $2.6 billion, as upstream earnings growth was more than enough to offset downstream weakness. For the full year, BP’s earnings of $14 billion were 45% below year-ago earnings of $26 billion, in part because of lower oil prices earlier in the year. We’re encouraged by BP’s sequential earnings gains as new projects and cost-cutting efforts drive upstream results.”

The SEC filed a civil lawsuit against Goldman Sachs and one of its vice presidents in April, asserting that the firm had committed fraud by misrepresenting a mortgage-investment product inherently designed to fail. The company helped a hedge fund trader create a mortgage investment that gained value as mortgage borrowers defaulted en masse.

In response, Goldman said the SEC’s charges were “completely unfounded in law and fact” and averred that it would “vigorously contest them and defend the firm and its reputation.”

The firm has also faced criticism over giant bonuses paid to staff amidst the US financial crisis. Goldman reduced the sizes of its staff bonuses this year to $16.9 billion, and said it would pay its chief executive $9 million, far less than the previous year.

Goldman also announced it would create a $500 million program to help small businesses. Critics noted that the figure represented just 3% of the bonus pool.

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  • JB

    Lets see……… What other big planned event happened recently that would normally be a huge media embarrassment but instead gets mostly drowned out by the Gulf leak. Who’s to gain?

  • JB

    Lets see……… What other big planned event happened recently that would normally be a huge media embarrassment but instead gets mostly drowned out by the Gulf leak. Who’s to gain?

  • Jag

    So left or right it was a conspiracy? Try finding a moderate take on that! Both sides shout foul and nothing gets resolved, welcome to “Living in the USA” Your all sheep being led to the slaughter and don’t even have the sense to change the obvious.

  • thecrow
  • dennycrane

    Hmmm, is “Cleo” from the “Psychic Hotline” still around? Was this just a lucky guess?

  • MrComments

    So let me see if I have this right. Many BP Executives were actually ON THE RIG when the explosion occurred, and at the same time they planned it? Riiiiiiiight.

    BP has now been opened up to a potential takeover due to their stocks price tanking. This was planned too?

    Ingenious…….

  • MrComments

    So let me see if I have this right. Many BP Executives were actually ON THE RIG when the explosion occurred, and at the same time they planned it? Riiiiiiiight.

    BP has now been opened up to a potential takeover due to their stocks price tanking. This was planned too?

    Ingenious…….

  • MrComments

    You must have missed this part of the article. Read much?

    The sale and its size itself isn’t unusual for a large asset management firm. Wall Street brokerages routinely buy and sell huge blocks of shares for themselves and their clients.

    Do YOU know how much GS sold off on 9-10-01? It’s a matter of record, and since you opened your mouth about it, tell us please.

    You have comprehension and reality issues.

  • Gorgeous George Orwell

    “The SEC filed a civil lawsuit against Goldman Sachs and one of its vice presidents in April, asserting that the firm had committed fraud by misrepresenting a mortgage-investment product inherently designed to fail.”

    Mortgage-investment products, European Countries, deep-water oil wells – hey, there's a lot of money to be made in failure these days. It's absolutely appalling that some of you could suspect Goldman Sachs of goosing them along somehow…

  • MrComments

    What does that dirtbag (and he is one) have to do with this? The 9/11 attacks were virtually announced by the CIA to the Bush Admin, who chose to ignore it.

    In this instance BP put profit (not doing proper testing of the annulus seals on the last piece because the test was $500k….Shlumberger testers were told the test was not necessary) ahead of safety and rational thought. Executives from BP were ON THE RIG when the explosion occurred. Why the hell would they want to be there if this was “planned”. BP may get taken over due to stock value plummetting. This is what they wanted? Jesus man, come back to reality. This mess is killing them. Their safety record is criminal, they have acquired hundreds of major violations while other big oil companies have been under 10. BP is getting what they deserve.

  • Caryn

    Do you really expect an honest answer from them?

  • Caryn

    Personally, I don’t think Cheney is involved. My money is on Owebama and his menions. He is trying to cripple the country in every way he can. He wants no offshore drilling & how better to stop it than to destroy an oil rig, pass the blame buck to the owning oil company & charge them for the repair, while he shuts off all offshore drilling as a ‘precaution’. People blame Bush for Katrina, but Katrina was a hurricane – an act of God. Bush did not cause Katrina to happen. This disaster, however, I totally attribute to sabatog & lay the blame square at the feet of Owebama and the handlers behind the scene who are pulling his strings.

  • MrComments

    Yes, it was lucky. As the article says, they buy and sell these quantities ALL the time. They could just as easily have bought and lost money.

    No, that does not take away from the fact that they tanked the global market with criminal behaviour…..but that is conspiracy FACT. Any notion that they had secret info about a spill, or created the spill is conspiracy FICTION…..or more accurately…..LOONEY TUNES

  • Gorgeous George Orwell

    Let's get Buzzy Krongard on the line – I'm sure he can put everyone's suspicions to rest…

  • swtcltfrphl

    Now ain't that interesting? Wonder how many were sold by the Cheney's?

  • Anonymous

    I agree when I first heard this a few days ago I didn’t think nothing of it also. But after looking at this and your other links, something is very very wrong with what happened that afternoon on the Horizon.

  • What The?

    hmmm, saw this posted on Huff Post, didn't take it seriously at first:

    If I shorted Gulf stocks the day before this platform explosion and bought a company that puts out oil well fires the week before, I'd have the FBI at my door within hours.

    Cheney's Halliburton bought a company called Boots & Coots which became well known for putting out some of the world's largest oil and gas fires. 8 days before the disaster http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/69…

    Goldman Sachs shorted the Gulf Oil stocks the day before the accident http://www.examiner.com/x-8199-Breakthrough-Ene…

    http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.a…

    Cementing of the oil rig well was finished only 20 hours before the explosion http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?st…

    BP sent workers from the well head testing company home 11 hours before the explosion on April 20 — “without performing a final check http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/20/bp-smo…

    A team from Schlumberger, which is highly regarded for their safety, asks a BP company man to use the Cement Bond Log (CBL) to dump fluid down the well and BP's company man refused. Schlumberger rep decides to leave citing safety issues but only if they called in their own transport as BP rep would not let Schlumberger leave on a BP Chopper.
    http://adropofrain.net/2010/05/rumor-schlumberg…

  • matt

    Reminds me of the Put Options and short selling done to United and American Airlines before 9/11.

  • RepublicansAreADisease

    And Rush said it was Greenpeace that blew up the Deepwater Horizon…. Better check and see if Goldman had some cds's…. I'm just sayin….

  • Azazel

    Yes but the 9/11 commission said that those transactions were not related to the terrorists.

    LMAO!!! Yeah, they were related to the US Government!

    9/11 was an inside job!

  • Bubba

    Get off the Cheney/Bush infatuation. Some of you are developing mental disorders over those two. This is becoming a joke.

    If you want to dig for conspiracies, then look for coincidence; such as, this happening on Earth Day. And in the year that the global warming swindlers and their ‘confiscate and tax’ (AKA, cap and trade) redistribution program was being exposed for the scam that it is. Do you have any idea the hundreds of billions of $s invested in that snake oil industry? There are a lot of “green” investors dangling by a thread over climate change science. B.O. is already using the Gulf disaster as another excuse to push “green” energy during his stump speeches. GE and others are salivating over the multi-trillion dollar taxpayer subsidies. Now there is a story for you conspiracy buffs.

    P.S. Don’t forget the North Korean sub.

  • Azazel

    So its all just a coincidence huh?

    lol… people are so dumb and gullible.

  • Jon

    They didn’t sell short, they sold 44% of their holding. HUGE difference. And not uncommon at all (especially after the run-up the market had been on). The $96mm they saved on that trade represents a whopping 0.7% of their 2009 net income. Take off your aluminum hat.

  • KWillow

    I think it would be harder to believe that SOME people did NOT know that BP was using slipshod materials and methods in their drilling process. It wasn’t a huge secret, the engineers were worried and upset, and very likely mentioned to one or two persons.

    the old “7 degrees of separation” is now 1 1/2 degrees.

  • KWillow

    You don’t think some of the BP employees, or managers, or Board Members knew what was being done at the well site; and why wouldn’t they “mention” it to a few, select pals?

  • imwc

    another inside job that won`t be investigated (properly)…!

  • KWillow

    Or, instead of therapy, he can just gaze at the big check BP PR has sent him. Then he better cash it ASAP, because it may be worthless in a day or two.

  • KWillow

    I doubt those particular execs knew the rig would blow up; altho it might be considered VEWY VEWY suspicious that they were not killed. Aren’t they “Taking the Fifth”?

  • namewithheld

    Well, now that MrComments has cleared that up, I guess I'll just go back to watching Dancing with the Stars.

  • KWillow

    Yes, it is a pity the Government didn’t just let Wall Street collapse back in ought-nine. The results, though bad, would have forced out nation,and all nations I suppose, to STOP kissing Corporate Ass. Alas! Instead our Politicians chose to prop up the system that enslaves them, and us.

  • KWillow

    We are sheep, you say? And what are you?

  • KWillow

    It is quite possible that the ‘fringe’ elements, and the moderate elements of Left and Right can and will come together. Fox and the rest of the corporate media have worked very hard to separate us, to create religion, rage and hatred towards one another rather than towards the real criminals who are exploiting and abusing us. Its already happening.

  • Markov

    You're speculating. You have no idea whether or not the disaster was manufactured on purpose, nor does anyone else here. Yet, you've taken the additional irrational step of reaching a conclusion that anyone who questions the timing is insane. You might want to consider therapy.

  • lilyannrose

    What a coincidence!

  • Corporate Indu$trial Complex

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    GOLDMAN SACHS ADVISES BRITISH PETROLEUM TO INFILTRATE FEDERAL RESERVE, SEC, DOJ
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  • KWillow

    If the BP well wasn’t an “oil and gas” fire, what kind of fire was it? A marshmallow fire? Or maybe it was a -gasp!- SEAWATER fire! You know how bad those are!

  • KWillow

    “…only 54% effective dispersant that is being used to try and clean up this mess. hmmm.”

    I think you mean “being used to try and HIDE the mess”

  • Lacy

    Also Halliburton seems to have quite a bit of timing luck purchasing the company that handled the 1979 *very simililar* Ixtoc I blowout which leaked 30,000 barrels of oil into the gulf until it was ultimately capped 10 Months! later. The purchase was 11 days prior to the current crisis.
    “Adair died in 2004. Boots and Coots/IWC was sold to Halliburton April 9, 2010.”
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Adair

  • Anonymous

    Don’t you know Goldman has the only crystal ball. And everything funnels to them to be laundered.

  • KWillow

    “…Personally, I don’t think Cheney is involved…”

    Well, I dunno. Lizard has reared her ugly head recently, after being relatively quiet for the last few months. I really believe Cheney, the Repugs AND our corporate Overlords are grooming the Hissy-One for President or VP sometime in the future. Otherwise, who’d give a sh!t what she has to say on any subject?

  • KWillow

    Why is it so easy for you to believe one set of wild conspiracy theories, and not another? What makes the “Cheney/Haliburton had a hand in this” theory so unbelievable and the “It happened on Earth Day for a Reason” theory perfectly sane?

  • carol h.

    What a memory. I suppose you do not remember that the last month of Bush, we were losing 700,000 jobs a month. And lest you forget, the first stimulus the 300.00 checks he sent out to us, were not just sent to be kind. It was sent because the economy was already in the toilet. The stimulus that the GOP spent such a lot of time bashing was already signed onto by Bush. Obama was left with the mess to figure out. Let’s give the original credit to the administration that authored our economic mess. Bush.

    I am no Obama apologist. But I have a better memory then you. And one more thing, all that gripping about the stimulus last year was from the worst of the hypocrites on the right. And the same hypocrites cut ribbons at job creations in their states and took credit for those jobs just after they claimed the stimulus had not created one single job. Look back at some of the press and see who these political hacks were.

    What must it be like, to be so selective in what you remember? Use some of the money from your better off period and take a course in memory retention or economics.

  • KWillow

    I think a lot of US Gov employees knew -there was a lot of evidence!” that terrorists were going to hijack & crash some airplanes soon; they just didn’t know when or how or where. Bush & his Admin “ignored” the loud valid warnings, doesn’t mean they didn’t hear them.

    I really doubt the towers were blown up by the Gov. or anyone else. That was just dumb luck. The towers simply were NOT DESIGNED to sustain the damage those two jets did, the amount of fuel dumped on them, and so on.

  • MrComments

    Get a grip on reality. And yes, everyone is taking the Fifth because BP did a major F-up. MAJOR. Don’t forget the $75 mil cap on damages gets thrown out the window if there are criminal charges. BP may not survive this (takeover rumors already), and if they do they will have someone up their ass on every drilling operation. Obama had just said “no problem” on drilling, and now this is going to change everything and make it HARDER for the oil companies. Your theory is just as wacky as the one where people think Obama blew up the well to hurt the oil companies. BP has ZERO to gain and EVERYTHING to lose. I hope they lose….but trust me, that was not “the plan”. They are in panic mode right now.

  • MrComments

    Get a grip on reality. Don’t forget the $75 mil cap on damages gets thrown out the window if there are criminal charges. BP may not survive this (takeover rumors already), and if they do they will have someone up their ass on every drilling operation. Obama had just said “no problem” on drilling, and now this is going to change everything and make it HARDER for the oil companies. Your theory is just as wacky as the one where people think Obama blew up the well to hurt the oil companies. BP has ZERO to gain and EVERYTHING to lose. I hope they lose….but trust me, that was not “the plan”. They are in panic mode right now.

  • marblex

    Good timing, my ass. I told you this oil dump was deliberate and intended to cause chaos… and it will. Fuel prices will skyrocket mid july as the food supply sharply declines. Add to that millions of Americans whose unemployment benefits run out at that time (gee, thanks congress); growing homelessness among former members of the middle class, and you have DISASTER.

    This event is another in a series of events designed to loot the USA of all its wealth.

    Guess what? It's working.

  • Caine

    That is some astounding logic. The disaster wasn’t Bush’s fault but the aftermath was? So by that logic the explosion wasn’t Obama’s fault but the environmental aftermath will be. Sounds fair. Oh wait, you didn’t say that. Obviously your logic doesn’t hold through to the current Pres. who you happen to like and apparently voted for.

    How long has it taken him to get down there? What is he doing other than trying to convince us that he is bossing BP around. Now he’s threatening criminal investigations? Now? He thinks now is a good time for that? There are untold barrels spewing into the ocean every second, and he’s worried about lawsuits. What exactly is his administration doing other than pointing fingers at BP? He has no engineers on the governments payroll? No undersea vehicles at his disposal?

    First and foremost, the PEOPLE in the path of the hurricane were expected to move. Short of that, they have a Mayor in their city to help, and then a Governor for the state, who are both next in line to take charge. When they both failed miserably it THEN fell to higher powers. As for this rig, it is completely out of Bobby Jindal’s reach, it is solely in the government’s jurisdiction. Obama was responsible for this situation the second it started to leak. The same cannot be said for Bush and the hurricane.

    Not making excuses for Bush, but it wasn’t the first hurricane and it won’t be the last. And spare me the argument about “that can be said of the oil spill too”. Let’s compare how many hurricanes there have been since the Valdez. This oil spill is far more important to address in an expedient manner than Katrina was, jurisdiction aside. There was no warning, no way to prepare, and it is certainly lasting longer than any hurricane ever did.

    Aside from Obama’s apathy, he also has a convenient excuse, which people like you will allow him to ride as long as he likes. He has a bad guy ready to take the fall. BP. There is no need for political expedience, you’re just going to blame the big bad oil company. He has nothing to lose by doing nothing, at least with people like you. Somehow, a company that was forced into deep waters by a government that they can’t fight, are the one and only bad guys. Somehow in your mind it’s not the responsibility of the man in charge of said government that push them out there. Pathetic.

  • not fooled

    hey, all of you idiots who love obama! guess what? goldman sachs OWNS that lying puppet scumbag. who do you think put him in office? do some research.

  • bigdaddyvike

    this reeks of impropriety.

  • peterlawrence

    Are you asking “Could a short sell been in place that was based on executive information that something was going to happen just like 9/11 and the airline stock”?

    I wouldn't put it past them in the world of disaster capitalism. The next question might be, where did they invest the money after they pulled it out of BP? Into a chemical dispersant company?

  • peterlawrence

    Are you asking “Could a short sell been in place that was based on executive information that something was going to happen just like 9/11 and the airline stock”?

    I wouldn't put it past them in the world of disaster capitalism. The next question might be, where did they invest the money after they pulled it out of BP? Into a chemical dispersant company?

  • truthfool

    thanks for links

  • truthfool

    thanks for links

  • http://www.fatboy.cc Teddy Kennedy's SEARCH+RESCUE

    And the INVASION of the USA continues… http://www.BorderInvasionPics.com

  • http://www.scotttempleman.com/ Scott Templeman

    Wow! You should compile these into a blog post, good stuff!

  • edwardo

    Looks like they got inside information! and from whom?

  • Lyman

    It's only the morons who love Obama. The idiots loved Bush.

  • B. Samuel Davis

    Has anyone looked at sabotage as happening here? Why not Russia – we sabotaged a Soviet pipeline during the Cold War. How about China, which would have plenty to gain if it was given the Gulf to exploit with Cuba as its partners without United States competing against it. I'm not saying it happened, but shouldn't someone at least look at whether it could have happened?

  • Atilla

    They buy and sell short 44% of their investments, “All the time”? You moron! they'd be bankrupt instead of filthy rich….Does anyone know how much Goldman Sachs sold off on 9-10-01? I'm betting it was this much or more. Nothing is going to change until the center breaks and lynch mobs desend on Wall St., C Street, and the churches.

  • schallb

    DOES THIS SURPRISE ANYONE?

  • Brad G

    Halliburton?? LMAO. This is NOT a “oil and gas fire”, Einstein. Better to ask the Obama White House, which has very longstanding and intimate ties with Goldman Sachs.

  • Anonymous

    How much of other oil stocks sold?

  • Anonymous

    I think Martha Stewart went to prison for something like this. It was $60,000!

  • Strange Days…

    Do a google search on “North Fleet” and “Korea” and “Deepwater” and see what you find there. The Russian theory is not entirely implausable. And from a timing aspect… quite interesting. If so it might explain a vector by which Goldman Sachs could have gotten prior knowledge… possibly.

  • Strange Days…

    Do a google search on “North Fleet” and “Korea” and “Deepwater” and see what you find there. The Russian theory is not entirely implausable. And from a timing aspect… quite interesting. If so it might explain a vector by which Goldman Sachs could have gotten prior knowledge… possibly.

  • to good to be true

    what a coincidence! goldman must be the best investors ever! sounds fishy eh?

  • Atilla

    Come on Marky. Making a decision to sell short 44% of a banks holdings would get you a reserved space in an unemployment line if the stock didn't take a huge shit the next day….I guess it is just coincidence that the average profit for Senators stock holdings held less than 6 months is near 50% and almost always return to a normal rate or less within a month of selling them. No such thing as insider trading, no sir! Insider trading is what the market is all about. It is how the Ruling class steals the treasure of the working class.

  • Atilla

    Come on Marky. Making a decision to sell short 44% of a banks holdings would get you a reserved space in an unemployment line if the stock didn't take a huge shit the next day….I guess it is just coincidence that the average profit for Senators stock holdings held less than 6 months is near 50% and almost always return to a normal rate or less within a month of selling them. No such thing as insider trading, no sir! Insider trading is what the market is all about. It is how the Ruling class steals the treasure of the working class.

  • Anonymous

    Hmmm, the imperialist pigs from the Big Piss cut corners to get that rig up and going, put on a display to their share holders. The share holders got a “tip” about their facade and the whole “Humpy Gunky” blew up.

  • StopWhiningAlready

    There's a big difference between coincidence and actual news. This is not news. Another example of emotionally-geared headlines meant to demonize the likes of Goldman Sachs and feed the wealth-envy initiative. What's next…it's Bush's fault???

  • bob

    so by that logic explain building 7?

  • Anonymous

    That was when the salt water went down the tube instead of cutting oil.

  • http://www.facebook.com/AndrewYeoman0907 Andrew Yeoman

    “vampire squid.” Interesting use of language.

  • Atilla

    Imagine that!…It's called disaster capitalism….The only hope is rope.

  • HM

    Who owns Haliburton??? Morons.

  • http://circuitousnoodle.blogspot.com/ leekinny

    I wonder what the drill workers who were direct witnesses to the event would have to say.

  • StopWhiningAlready

    You can't be serious. Actual costs to date are a Billion and climbing. Decrease in equity due to the fall in the share price is more than $30B. Any ability to drill in deep water in the near future is out of the question and will not happen in the foreseeable future, the cost of which is in the tens of billions of dollars not to mention the related cost of clean-up and likely thousands of legal assaults they will have to defend at $300+/hr. The company, which was one of the stongest companies on the planet prior to the spill may not survive this (Remember Exxon BEFORE Mobile purchased it at a hefty discount???). How stupid are you???

  • Steven Ray

    This is the really disturbing part of the story.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/article/series-lucky-c…

    Funny that Sutherland's name does not appear in this article.

  • freebird

    Another trail of bodies, so to speak…….that cannot be directly connected……or can it ?

    I think we had better keep our eyes on this, the appointments of BP execs to enegy govt. positions RECENTLY, the u-turn on drilling by the ONE so neatly and recently, etc.

    I am sorry but it just all smells.
    And it's always SOOOOO convenient.
    Like the crash just before the election.etc. etc. etc. Am I getting overly paranoid here ???

  • Mark

    Well let's see, how many times has the CEO of Goldman visited the POTUS at the White House this year? OK conspiracy theorists…. GO!

  • DesertSun59

    Personally, I know there are meds for this sort of delusional thinking.

  • http://theantiliberalzone.blogspot.com/ GunnyG

    WOW! It makes you wonder about this when Goldman/Sachs has a BUNCH of people inside this regime.

  • DesertSun59

    Oh, I get it.

    It was Earth Day and an invisible group of Greenies (TM) boarded the Deepwater Horizon. They were fully unaware, that weeks before, the rubber seal that would prevent a blowout had come up in PIECES. (As you know, that seal was the only way the BOP would have worked.) They were fully unaware that BP execs said ‘so what’ – deciding to look the other way because there was absolutely no possible way drilling in a mile of water could ever, EVER lead to a disaster – even when the failsafe was clearly destroyed. Then those totally invisible Greenies (TM) caused a chain of events that led to this disaster, while 11 oilworkers paid the price for the invisible Greenies (TM) doing their nasty deed.

    I also enjoyed how the tens of billions of dollars in BP profits somehow doesn’t fit anywhere into this scheme at all.

  • http://theantiliberalzone.blogspot.com/ GunnyG

    Hey LIBMORONS, WHO worked for Goldman/Sachs and is in the White House as former lobbyists?

    The list of former Goldman Sachs employees holding top positions in the Obama administration includes:

    • Mark Patterson, a former Goldman Sachs lobbyist, who is the chief of staff to Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner (himself the former president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York).

    • Reuben Jeffery III, former managing partner at Goldman Sachs, who holds the post of undersecretary of state for economic, business, and agricultural affairs.

    • Neel Kashkari, former Goldman Sachs vice president, who is the assistant secretary of the treasury for financial stability, responsible for administering the TARP funds.

    • Dianna Farrell, former financial analyst at Goldman Sachs, who serves as deputy director of the National Economic Council.

    Rahm Emanuel as well. Oh, and Elena Kagan ALSO worked for Goldman/Sachs.

  • http://theantiliberalzone.blogspot.com/ GunnyG

    Hey LIBMORONS, WHO worked for Goldman/Sachs and is in the White House as former lobbyists?

    The list of former Goldman Sachs employees holding top positions in the Obama administration includes:

    • Mark Patterson, a former Goldman Sachs lobbyist, who is the chief of staff to Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner (himself the former president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York).

    • Reuben Jeffery III, former managing partner at Goldman Sachs, who holds the post of undersecretary of state for economic, business, and agricultural affairs.

    • Neel Kashkari, former Goldman Sachs vice president, who is the assistant secretary of the treasury for financial stability, responsible for administering the TARP funds.

    • Dianna Farrell, former financial analyst at Goldman Sachs, who serves as deputy director of the National Economic Council.

    Rahm Emanuel as well. Oh, and Elena Kagan ALSO worked for Goldman/Sachs.

  • http://theantiliberalzone.blogspot.com/ GunnyG

    Hey LIBMORONS, WHO worked for Goldman/Sachs and is in the White House as former lobbyists?

    The list of former Goldman Sachs employees holding top positions in the Obama administration includes:

    • Mark Patterson, a former Goldman Sachs lobbyist, who is the chief of staff to Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner (himself the former president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York).

    • Reuben Jeffery III, former managing partner at Goldman Sachs, who holds the post of undersecretary of state for economic, business, and agricultural affairs.

    • Neel Kashkari, former Goldman Sachs vice president, who is the assistant secretary of the treasury for financial stability, responsible for administering the TARP funds.

    • Dianna Farrell, former financial analyst at Goldman Sachs, who serves as deputy director of the National Economic Council.

    Rahm Emanuel as well. Oh, and Elena Kagan ALSO worked for Goldman/Sachs.

  • http://theantiliberalzone.blogspot.com/ GunnyG

    Hey LIBMORONS, WHO worked for Goldman/Sachs and is in the White House as former lobbyists?

    The list of former Goldman Sachs employees holding top positions in the Obama administration includes:

    • Mark Patterson, a former Goldman Sachs lobbyist, who is the chief of staff to Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner (himself the former president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York).

    • Reuben Jeffery III, former managing partner at Goldman Sachs, who holds the post of undersecretary of state for economic, business, and agricultural affairs.

    • Neel Kashkari, former Goldman Sachs vice president, who is the assistant secretary of the treasury for financial stability, responsible for administering the TARP funds.

    • Dianna Farrell, former financial analyst at Goldman Sachs, who serves as deputy director of the National Economic Council.

    Rahm Emanuel as well. Oh, and Elena Kagan ALSO worked for Goldman/Sachs.

  • http://theantiliberalzone.blogspot.com/ GunnyG

    Hey LIBMORONS, WHO worked for Goldman/Sachs and is in the White House as former lobbyists?

    The list of former Goldman Sachs employees holding top positions in the Obama administration includes:

    • Mark Patterson, a former Goldman Sachs lobbyist, who is the chief of staff to Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner (himself the former president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York).

    • Reuben Jeffery III, former managing partner at Goldman Sachs, who holds the post of undersecretary of state for economic, business, and agricultural affairs.

    • Neel Kashkari, former Goldman Sachs vice president, who is the assistant secretary of the treasury for financial stability, responsible for administering the TARP funds.

    • Dianna Farrell, former financial analyst at Goldman Sachs, who serves as deputy director of the National Economic Council.

    Rahm Emanuel as well. Oh, and Elena Kagan ALSO worked for Goldman/Sachs.

  • FactChecker

    Soooo, does this mean the reports out of Russia right after the platform disaster are true and not just a rumor? A North Korean sub blasted a platform made by South Korea? Any thoughts?

  • FactChecker

    Soooo, does this mean the reports out of Russia right after the platform disaster are true and not just a rumor? A North Korean sub blasted a platform made by South Korea? Any thoughts?

  • FactChecker

    Soooo, does this mean the reports out of Russia right after the platform disaster are true and not just a rumor? A North Korean sub blasted a platform made by South Korea? Any thoughts?

  • FactChecker

    Soooo, does this mean the reports out of Russia right after the platform disaster are true and not just a rumor? A North Korean sub blasted a platform made by South Korea? Any thoughts?

  • FactChecker

    Soooo, does this mean the reports out of Russia right after the platform disaster are true and not just a rumor? A North Korean sub blasted a platform made by South Korea? Any thoughts?

  • MrComments

    Between the two of you, we show the sheer stupidity of Left and Right extremism. Oh, Mark, using your logic then Clinton was even better than Bush (oil remained stable at $20/barrel, boom times, etc.). Do you even think before you type. Both of you are OUT TO LUNCH.

    And stop talking about “anti-capitalist”. I believe in the free enterprise system. That’s not what is going on. When government gets infiltrated by business (since Reagan that has happened), things get progressively worse for working people. Monopolies are not “free enterprise”. Our disparity of wealth (1% control 50% of the wealth) is on par with many dictatorships. Obama wants everyone to play fair. He is the most intelligent, honest, and decent man we have had in the WH since Ike. He is fighting both “sponsored” parties as best he can, as well as the Lobbyist propaganda in the media (Glen Beck,etc). So lose your 16 year old mentality and please….try to educate yourself just a little.

  • http://theantiliberalzone.blogspot.com/ GunnyG

    The COMPLETE list of Obomunists who are IN the Obummer Regime.

    http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/43559

    A lot of corruption in this regime.

  • Anonymous

    Between the two of them, they gave the country an obamotomy…

    (for those without the benefit of a medical education that’s when instead of separating the two halves of the brain as in a lobotomy, they just separate the brain…. period !

    main side-effect is a propensity to sit and smile vacantly while humming songs to our “dear leader”)

  • http://theantiliberalzone.blogspot.com/ GunnyG

    Wow, way to ignore the facts libtard. But then again, facts are to liberals like holy water is to vampires.

  • Matt

    Goldman Sachs also owns Corexit, the 100% toxic and only 54% effective dispersant that is being used to try and clean up this mess. hmmm….

  • http://theantiliberalzone.blogspot.com/ GunnyG

    BINGO! These obomunists are too busy drinking the feces filled kool aid to see the truth.

  • http://theantiliberalzone.blogspot.com/ GunnyG

    BINGO! These obomunists are too busy drinking the feces filled kool aid to see the truth.

  • http://theantiliberalzone.blogspot.com/ GunnyG

    IMPEACH OBAMA!

    I CAN SEE NOVEMBER from here!

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    Here comes some undocumented democrats – http://www.BorderInvasionPics.com

  • Anonymous

    Ever notice that Obama has never seemed too worried about the electoral bloodbath that has been loomng for November when he’s liable to see the Democrat majority in both houses get thrown out?

    He’s always looked like he knew something was going to happen between now and then. Most political “experts” think that a crisis sends people running TOWARD the party in power – to paraphrase the words of the all-seeing, all-knowing RhamE: “Never waste a good crisis”

    Unfortunately it seems that things are changing, the old patterns aren’t what they used to be ad wt th h*ll do those “experts” know anyway? – This may help bring down Obama rather than increase his power….

  • Mark

    OK, first Halliburton started getting Gov contracts from LBJ, and Cheney was never more than a high paid consultant. The main difference, Haliburton already had contracts with government when Cheney entered office (dating back 60 years) and Cheney was not a Senator that got the contract.

    http://newsmine.org/content.php?ol=cabal-elite/…

    Who from Goldman has been spending time at the White House with POTUS?

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/04/21/92637/gol…

    I know you really want this to be a Republican/Big Coporate conspiracy, but what do they really have to gain? Yet, the Obama adminstration has tons to gain from this. They can now revers the off shore drilling approval that so upset their radical enviromental wing. They can go after BP to appease the anti-capitalist wing of the liberal democratic party. And the photo ops are never ending.

    So if you want to go down the conspiracy road, look at the people who would most likely be involved and QUIT BLAMING BUSH.

    Was I better off unde Bush than Obamanation? YES!!!!!!!

  • NadePaulKuciGravMcKi

    Alvin Bernard “Buzzy” Krongard
    A. B. Krongard
    CIA

  • rtb61

    Keep in mind corporate executives are not the corporation, they simply run the corporation to enrich themselves regardless of the consequences for everyone else including investors, workers and customers. Time and time again, it is clearly being demonstrated that corporation are not being run with the intent of promoting stable profits and a secure future for the corporate but as a means by which to maximise the income of the corporate executive management team (as a conspiracy).
    Golden parachutes, after large bonuses inflated by short term profits that lead to company collapse are becoming all to regular. Executives commit the crimes to enrich themselves but it is shareholders (the unknowing ones) that lose money and end up paying the fines, whilst the conspiring executives walk away protected by the lobbyists and politicians they bought off in the first place with shareholder money. Real long term planning and extensive conspiracies were required to bring all of this about especially when combined with legislated deregulation that enabled it all to come about.

  • rtb61

    Keep in mind corporate executives are not the corporation, they simply run the corporation to enrich themselves regardless of the consequences for everyone else including investors, workers and customers. Time and time again, it is clearly being demonstrated that corporation are not being run with the intent of promoting stable profits and a secure future for the corporate but as a means by which to maximise the income of the corporate executive management team (as a conspiracy).
    Golden parachutes, after large bonuses inflated by short term profits that lead to company collapse are becoming all to regular. Executives commit the crimes to enrich themselves but it is shareholders (the unknowing ones) that lose money and end up paying the fines, whilst the conspiring executives walk away protected by the lobbyists and politicians they bought off in the first place with shareholder money. Real long term planning and extensive conspiracies were required to bring all of this about especially when combined with legislated deregulation that enabled it all to come about.

  • “Never let a serious crisis go to waste” – Rahm Emanuel

    Wake up, America.

  • rts111

    As I have said from the very beginning of this disaster: Cheney and his ilk view oil-based disasters like this as military asset that can be used to confound market prices and offer a great distraction for the dubious activities going on in the Middle East.

    Front companies for the oil industry itself will make a bundle cleaning the spill and appropriating land, which they will sit on for several before reselling at a huge profit.

    As a crowning achievement for the military industrial complex, they will probably use a small nuclear device to eventually close the well to the cheers of coastal residents, acclimatizing the American people regarding the safe use of nukes. At the same time Israel will attack Iran using small nuclear bunker buster armaments and the American people who will have paid for the mass slaughter of innocent Iranian citizens will think it cannot be as bad as they say. Welcome to Cheney’s Inferno.

  • Spock

    Goldman Sachs is ran by Liberals, it is a False enemy to them. Come on the Liberal Ex-Governor of NJ was its CEO, they donate millions to Obama

  • Zip Sixenstein

    The guy in who is charge of delegating money from the TARP fund is named Kash n' Kari?

  • Biteme Iamtoxic

    The thieves were to greedy to avoid pointing an arrow at themselves.

  • What about the Feds

    The Feds knew about several serious problems on this rig for several months. Just another piece of the conspiracy?

    I'd say that Goldman was intelligently managing risk, particularly as the hurricane reports in the first quarter were a little reminiscent of Katrina.

    My concern would be did Goldman have insider information?

  • What about the Feds

    The Feds knew about several serious problems on this rig for several months. Just another piece of the conspiracy?

    I'd say that Goldman was intelligently managing risk, particularly as the hurricane reports in the first quarter were a little reminiscent of Katrina.

    My concern would be did Goldman have insider information?

  • PainfullyAware

    It seems convenient that this happens when financial reform is being debated => Wave one hand while the other acts nefariously ???

    The Financial Reform Bill is actually the Financial Rearrangement Act. => Too Big To Fail left intact, The Derivatives that caused the whole fiasco are left untouched and are still being originated, The Fed audit is not much more than the Bloomberg Freedom Of Information Act request; the timing and results seem a bit more than coincidental to me.

    To Assume Benevolence Is Foolish.

  • FatFinger

    hahahahahah Kash n' Kari. How appropriate

  • kramer

    Goldman Sachs also owned 10% of the Chicago Climate Exchange (not sure if they still do was the CCX was sold about a month ago). If they still have a stake in carbon trading, that would be interesting.

  • MrComments

    You are in idiot. Obama never seems too worried about ANYTHING. That is part of his nature, he keeps his cool. You conspiracy guys have no clue.

  • kramer

    I always though it was quite a couple of coincidences that both the oil rig explosion and the coal mine explosion happened within a few weeks after Obama announced he was going to open up offshore drilling.

  • Guest

    Ummm….Mark….Cheney must have been a pretty powerful consultant for Halliburton. His title from 1995 through 2000 was CEO of Halliburton.

    Better get your facts straight before accusing other of being biased. Shseeeeee………

  • http://twitter.com/conservtivemom I am Lori Girl!

    What I'd like to know is WHY is the O-Admin's AG Holder launching a criminal investigation??? Is someone guilty or something? What on earth would the motivation be for making something like this happen? To ruin The Southern Red States' economy? To make an oil company look evil after taking more campaign money from them than any other candidate? To make oil drilling off shore look catastrophic even after approval to drill deeper? Nahhhh. That's just conspiratorial conjecture, right?

  • Steven Ray

    This is the really disturbing part of the story. This is one of GS's insider traders.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/article/series-lucky-c…

    Funny that Sutherland's name does not appear in the article above. The following article if true (and I have no reason to doubt it), would make the most cynical person question the intensions of the “Banker Elite” in this world. Call them Bilderbergers, New World Order, or the minions of the Anti-Christ; news like this is very eye-opening. If you see Republicans or Democrats any different from each other, then they have succeeded. These bastards really aren’t even trying to hide their “goings on” anymore. They own almost all of our senior politicians and most main stream media outlets. If ever we needed to throw the bums out, now is that time. Jefferson and Jackson both knew the evil inherent in a Federal Bank and fiat money. We need to find new men and women that will put some of these guys in jail. The partisan bickering will eventually be a game for morons and “We the People” will prevail.

  • ricosauve

    GS had a whole three months to divest of the shares. Way to promote your site. Great I'm here but never coming back. “You stop sending me information, and you start getting me some.”

  • refreshthetree

    Hmm, I guess conspiracy theorists that say the spill was done on purpose were wrong. Oh, and the ones who say that GS runs the government are wrong too. Thank god for global power being in the hands of the rich, they care so deeply about the little people, ie the other 99% of the population on the planet. How can you blame their meddling for terrorist acts, I mean the little people should know that throwing temper tantrums isn't going to get them anywhere. History shows us that terror was never used to control a populations. Why are we not in a state of violent revolution? Because we are not desperate…… yet.

  • LinkAller

    Wait! I thought one is supposed to 'anticipate' when playing the market? Sometimes you win, sometimes (well, most of the time) one loses……..are U intimating GS planted a time bomb and then sold BP out? Wow!

    Stupid, naive or propaganda?

  • Wachovia not Wachova

    good story, but someone should of checked the spelling errors and grammar before publishing

  • Steven Ray

    I am only believing that Sutherland saw the handwritting on the wall, and used his insider position to land softly back under the umbrella of GS. Much the same as Hank Paulson did shortly after delivering his three page ransom demand to US politicians back in the Fall of 2008.

  • imlyn

    Wow! Amazing.
    Well, here's another one for ya; In regards to Cap 'n Trade, Goldman Sacs stands to be the 4th largest profiteer in charge, right after Obama. Yes, really!
    Wasn't Goldman one of Obama's larger contributors?
    Kinda makes you feel sick to your stomach doesn't it?

  • imlyn

    The heads of Cap ' n Trade:
    John Ayers, son of Bill Ayers
    Al Gore
    Obama
    Goldman Sacs
    GE
    These people are all sleeping together.
    Do we want them preaching about the weather and going green?
    To them, going green means money in their pockets at any cost to you!

  • MrComments

    Not only was Cheney CEO of Halliburton, but he was not charged in the accounting scandal that Halliburton was involved on only because….at the time….the CEO could say “I didn’t know” and get away with it. That changed after Enron (CEO’s now can’t make that claim). Not only that, but the accounting scandal inflated the price of HB stock to approx $30. Cheney dumped about $20 mil worth when he decided to run for VP. When the scandal was exposed, the price tanked down to about $10. About a year later came Iraq, and HB stock went right back up again thanks to no-bid contracts. I have no problem giving HB no-bid oil services contracts as they are damn good at the actual work, but they were getting inflated no-bid contracts for housing, food, clothing….all things they had ZERO experience in. It was one of the biggest scams ever. And you were out to lunch for the whole thing.

  • Lizzy

    The first blog to break this story was Zero Hedge….YESTERDAY.
    Check the time stamps.
    You might have wanted to give them some credit.

  • Free Market

    You must be from Earth First…you know, those “Greenies” that spike trees, killing loggers. These invisible “Greenies” also manage to burn down housing projects located in their precious forest regions; and commit arson of animal clinics on college campuses and medical research facilities. And, sadly, innocent humans do die in the process, but it is all for the cause of “Mother Earth.” The new “Green” is the old Red. Watermelons – green on the outside and red on the inside.

    Do your research of the radical environmental movement and then come back to this post.

  • William

    How about that…just like the short-selling of American Airlines and United stocks just prior to 9/11…

  • fluminense

    This is from the site warincontext.org today.

    I find RawStroy already moving away fromt his subject which is NOT going to go away!

    I hope the American People rise and demand Obama to condem Israel's War Crimes NOW! Not tomorrow! Now!

    From warincontext.org

    “Israel’s war against non-violence
    by Paul Woodward on June 2, 2010

    Today, Israel’s Defense Minister Ehud Barak, praising the Shayetet 13 commandos who slaughtered at least nine humanitarian activists on board the Mavi Marmara, said:

    “…we live in the Middle East, in a place where there is no mercy for the weak…”

    A year ago President Obama declared in Cairo:

    Resistance through violence and killing is wrong and it does not succeed. For centuries, black people in America suffered the lash of the whip as slaves and the humiliation of segregation. But it was not violence that won full and equal rights. It was a peaceful and determined insistence upon the ideals at the center of America’s founding. This same story can be told by people from South Africa to South Asia; from Eastern Europe to Indonesia. It’s a story with a simple truth: that violence is a dead end.

    But if the violence is being committed by Israelis then it is all too evident that this particular world leader lacks the courage and moral conviction to speak out.

    When the slaves of Zionism are called on to break out of their chains, instead, their own fear of political and financial retribution guarantees that they will maintain their silence.

    Obama is not only incapable of condemning Israeli violence; he cannot even acknowledge its existence!”

    The best site covering CHANGE you can believe in!

  • Boratsbrother

    Well seeing as former New Jersey Governor Jon “the Don” Corzine was the head muckity muck at Goldman Sachs before entering congress first then becoming governor, someone needs to check to see where he was the day before the rig exploded. Sounds like Goldman may have had prior knowledge of sabotage by person or persons unknown inside the government. Advance knowledge that allowed G/S to clear funds prior to the drop in BP stock value.

  • Nazi Pelosi

    OF course they did the Jews at Goldman Sachs own Obama and BP wants to be in on the Green movement so Obama and his Jewish handlers deliberately sabotaged the Gulf Oil Rig with BP's help to promote Cap and Tax.

  • damnadamzama

    This is done on purpose. These lunatics are trying to make revelations come true. Remember, it says the seas will turn blood red? Why is this leak red? Interestingly, there were two prophets that had a vision of the apocalypse, St. John and Enoch. St. John's version, which leaves the earth to the evil-doers, while good people have to transcend to another heaven, was in the Bible. Enoch's vision, which was curiously omitted from the Bible, says that we defeat the elitists and cast out evil, and that heaven on earth is left for all the good people of the earth. Research and you will begin to see. Do research. Peace

  • MrComments

    Explain to me exactly what BP’s agenda was here? Right now here is what is happening:

    They are in danger of a takeover as their stock tanks. If they survive they will not be able to take a leak without oversight (they used to fill out their own inspection reports). They may be criminally liable, in which case the $75 bil cap is out the window. They are losing massive amounts of potential profits in the spill, and now must pay to clean up the profits.

    So tell me, how exactly does BP benefit from this? Don’t get me wrong, I hate BP (they lobbied Blair big time for Iraq, have paid settlements for price rigging in the natural gas market, etc.)…….but the notion that they deliberately did this is asinine …..at best.

  • KWillow

    So, it was KNOWN, tho not everywhere, that BP was drilling an unstable well in very iffy physical conditions; and maybe “some people” knew or had warnings that a BP Manager would order Engineers to use with a VERY dangerous, almost guaranteed-to-fail technique in the end-operation?

    Nowadays, it would not surprise me a bit. The only argument against it is the smallish number of stock that was sold. Unless “only a few” were In On the Plan.

    For those who say: “What! BP destroy its own well just to -cough- make money? Stuff and Nonsense!” (or something in that line). My answer would be: “Why not? Their subsequent actions show they have no intention of actually closing and abandoning the well. *I* suspect they thought they could have their “little managed disaster” and eat it (use the well) too.”

  • MPIKE

    This is NOT a Dem vs. Rep problem…. Goldman seems to be in every story having to do with crisis during the past 5 years – Always making a profit. Wake up Zombies! It's the Elite vs. the rest of us!!!

  • Mpike

    Get a life! This was a set up and a trap against the 'Zionist'… You can't really be this stupid or brainwashed – Can you?

  • MrComments

    The market recovered well in the first quarter, and rumors were that it was going to go down again. There were huge sell-offs not only in oil but in other sectors. This is a matter of public record. Yes, oil stocks too.

  • Turnip

    Being non-partisan doesn’t automatically make you more intelligent. O is playing the same game as Clinton, and the several CEO’s before and after him. He isn’t allowed, nor is trying, to do anything that goes against the interests that put him there. There were many of us that were hopeful at first, only to look up his associations and benefactors. . who were all of the usual suspects, and so avoided voting for yet another fraud of a president. If you believe he can deliver anything that is counter to the wants of the banks and the big business that they lend to, you are the one that suffers from the thinking.

  • michaelmcleary

    Goldman Sachs are vipers

  • garrett shaw

    Jesus is Coming we heading in to the Apocalypse Time period Of Revelation
    Repent of sin my friend and make Jesus lord of your life to keep you and separate you from rebellion towards him.
    He is coming for his follower soon
    Prepare the king of king is coming

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Constantine/1162232502 John Constantine

    The apparent corporate conspiracy behind this event is almost beyond belief.What a Macheavellian(sp)web is going on here with these CRIMINALS!

  • MrComments

    Yes, he has “sponsors”, but he is nowhere near as sponsored as Clinton and Bush were. My thinking is fine. He is a 100% improvement, but if you think ANYONE can just walk in and change everything immediately, you are wrong. You have Congress to fight. Obama is doing an outstanding job considering who he has to fight.

  • MrComments

    Haha, good one. Yes, this Mark guy is lost.

  • dennycrane

    Never let bullshit enter your ears.

  • Benway for the Nova Police

    You folks are demented. In case you don't know, that a big word for nuts.

  • Antoniosaupolous

    “So if you want to go down the conspiracy road, look at the people who would most likely be involved and QUIT BLAMING BUSH.

    Was I better off under Bush than Obamanation? YES!!!!!!! ”

    No offense, but its sad to see people defending one traitorous bacteria as a means of attacking another scum bucket. No, your right there are no Republican/or/Democrat conspiracies, but rather just one big conspiracy against the sadly deluded masses. Don’t lick boots for any of these elitists scum. Do we elect lobbyists? How about Billionaires or Trillionaire Oligarchs? Didn’t think so. Those Diebold Electronic voting machines are so trusty aren’t they. As Stalin pointed out that the voters decide nothing, but he who counts the votes decides everything.
    But other than that one does wonder about these things. Motive, opportunity, along with amorality.
    Yeah, the left/right false paradigm is nothing more than a crock of horseshit…. well actually its a mixture of dried jackass manure sauteed (misspelled?) in elephant dung. So yeah there may be a few good men/women in the entire congress, but overall the system is not in any way, shape or form serving the general populace of the United States. No guys, our constitutional republic has for many years been continuously deconstructed and ultimately been captured by an economic and self-described intellectual elite, who generally regard the general population as too stupid to govern themselves, nor conscious enough to realize as much. Well, I don’t fully agree with such conclusions, because history is still being written day by day. However, I fear that the powerful spell cast upon most people by 24/7 corporate propaganda with plenty of bread and a nonstop circus is possibly too much to overcome.. Yes, folks you can’t go wrong with bread and games: football, basketball, baseball, political theater, and everything else Television offers humanity. I don’t think I’ve got “It” figured out. What we need is for people to wake up, to engage in original thought, to think for themselves, to realize that an education isn’t a college degree, but that an education is the sum total of every useful, and logical thought process, which you develop throughout your life. Read a book, turn off the TV( or at least reduce how much you watch), stop expecting any school system (public or private) to educate your children or even grandchildren. An old friend told me he didn’t really have much time to read and yet I know he watches several hours of television everyday after work. I am not speaking down on him, because he was a genuinely honest and good human being, who was as intelligent as anyone I’ve ever met. However, he had over time regressed and become complacent as a result of too much passive entertainment (TV and Associated Press newsstories)

  • Antoniosaupolous

    “So if you want to go down the conspiracy road, look at the people who would most likely be involved and QUIT BLAMING BUSH.

    Was I better off under Bush than Obamanation? YES!!!!!!! ”

    No offense, but its sad to see people defending one traitorous bacteria as a means of attacking another scum bucket. No, your right there are no Republican/or/Democrat conspiracies, but rather just one big conspiracy against the sadly deluded masses. Don’t lick boots for any of these elitists scum. Do we elect lobbyists? How about Billionaires or Trillionaire Oligarchs? Didn’t think so. Those Diebold Electronic voting machines are so trusty aren’t they. As Stalin pointed out that the voters decide nothing, but he who counts the votes decides everything.
    But other than that one does wonder about these things. Motive, opportunity, along with amorality.
    Yeah, the left/right false paradigm is nothing more than a crock of horseshit…. well actually its a mixture of dried jackass manure sauteed (misspelled?) in elephant dung. So yeah there may be a few good men/women in the entire congress, but overall the system is not in any way, shape or form serving the general populace of the United States. No guys, our constitutional republic has for many years been continuously deconstructed and ultimately been captured by an economic and self-described intellectual elite, who generally regard the general population as too stupid to govern themselves, nor conscious enough to realize as much. Well, I don’t fully agree with such conclusions, because history is still being written day by day. However, I fear that the powerful spell cast upon most people by 24/7 corporate propaganda with plenty of bread and a nonstop circus is possibly too much to overcome.. Yes, folks you can’t go wrong with bread and games: football, basketball, baseball, political theater, and everything else Television offers humanity. I don’t think I’ve got “It” figured out. What we need is for people to wake up, to engage in original thought, to think for themselves, to realize that an education isn’t a college degree, but that an education is the sum total of every useful, and logical thought process, which you develop throughout your life. Read a book, turn off the TV( or at least reduce how much you watch), stop expecting any school system (public or private) to educate your children or even grandchildren. An old friend told me he didn’t really have much time to read and yet I know he watches several hours of television everyday after work. I am not speaking down on him, because he was a genuinely honest and good human being, who was as intelligent as anyone I’ve ever met. However, he had over time regressed and become complacent as a result of too much passive entertainment (TV and Associated Press newsstories)

  • Antoniosaupolous

    “So if you want to go down the conspiracy road, look at the people who would most likely be involved and QUIT BLAMING BUSH.

    Was I better off under Bush than Obamanation? YES!!!!!!! ”

    No offense, but its sad to see people defending one traitorous bacteria as a means of attacking another scum bucket. No, your right there are no Republican/or/Democrat conspiracies, but rather just one big conspiracy against the sadly deluded masses. Don’t lick boots for any of these elitists scum. Do we elect lobbyists? How about Billionaires or Trillionaire Oligarchs? Didn’t think so. Those Diebold Electronic voting machines are so trusty aren’t they. As Stalin pointed out that the voters decide nothing, but he who counts the votes decides everything.
    But other than that one does wonder about these things. Motive, opportunity, along with amorality.
    Yeah, the left/right false paradigm is nothing more than a crock of horseshit…. well actually its a mixture of dried jackass manure sauteed (misspelled?) in elephant dung. So yeah there may be a few good men/women in the entire congress, but overall the system is not in any way, shape or form serving the general populace of the United States. No guys, our constitutional republic has for many years been continuously deconstructed and ultimately been captured by an economic and self-described intellectual elite, who generally regard the general population as too stupid to govern themselves, nor conscious enough to realize as much. Well, I don’t fully agree with such conclusions, because history is still being written day by day. However, I fear that the powerful spell cast upon most people by 24/7 corporate propaganda with plenty of bread and a nonstop circus is possibly too much to overcome.. Yes, folks you can’t go wrong with bread and games: football, basketball, baseball, political theater, and everything else Television offers humanity. I don’t think I’ve got “It” figured out. What we need is for people to wake up, to engage in original thought, to think for themselves, to realize that an education isn’t a college degree, but that an education is the sum total of every useful, and logical thought process, which you develop throughout your life. Read a book, turn off the TV( or at least reduce how much you watch), stop expecting any school system (public or private) to educate your children or even grandchildren. An old friend told me he didn’t really have much time to read and yet I know he watches several hours of television everyday after work. I am not speaking down on him, because he was a genuinely honest and good human being, who was as intelligent as anyone I’ve ever met. However, he had over time regressed and become complacent as a result of too much passive entertainment (TV and Associated Press newsstories)

  • elizabeth44

    When did Goldman Sacks sell the stock? At that point how was the drilling going?

  • elizabeth44

    If you are a believer in the Bible, the apocalypse will happen when God orders it. Jesus said he didn't know when. I say you are more likely to die in a car wreck.

  • YigPoo

    Wish Goldman sacks would catch abalze and sink into the ocean just like that oil rig did. Sad part is, if it did, the pollution problem would be just as bad as the current oil gusher from their raw “filth”.

    Lou
    http://www.web-anonymity.cz.tc

  • elizabeth44

    We do know that Transocean insured the rig for twice its value.

  • elizabeth44

    I agree some lunatics are trying to force God to bring on the Apocalypse, but I doubt BP is one of them.

  • elizabeth44

    I personally think the two incidences are co-instances, sort-of. I don't think they are directly related. I do think they are the result of eight years of the Bush administrations policies on regulation of industry. They filled the regulatory agencies with industry insiders and those who believe in no industrial regulation and let them have at it. The result has been unregulated industry: financial, oil, healthcare, pharmaceuticals, to name a few.

  • elizabeth44

    I may be wrong, but I don't see them as liberals or conservatives. I see them as people who worship power and money and will buy any and all politicians who can give them access to that.

  • Byron

    It gets more mysterious. Makes me wonder if maybe they had something going with Halliburton…

  • anonymous

    It's true, I saw the numbers, date 3-31-10

  • anonymous

    For proof, go to: http://moneycentral.msn.com/ownership?Holding=I…

    Goldman Sachs Asset Management (US) 6,025,387 -4,680,822 -43.7 -276,770,112 0.0 0.4 03-31-10

  • gr8fuldaniel

    Disaster Capitalism

  • Katie Seamands

    Stop pouring the taxpayers money into this devastating environmental “black hole”!! Instead, stream our money into the development and support of progressive energy alternatives that reduce our false dependency on oil for fuel…and give our grandchildren a viable future!!

  • Well Well Wel

    Well this is curious:)

    False flag attack? They are not even cleaning the water, I never heard of any super tankers going out to do anything, this could kill millions of people world wide.This reminds me of before 9/11 when Wall street shorted airlines.

  • pentel

    conspiracy hogwash. nothing to see here, move along.

  • http://www.zoombits.co.uk/ micro sd card

    This seems very suspicious, as was the knoew the oil leak seems to happen. Can be simply coincidnece same. But it is suspicious. seems to reflect these new something about 9/11. Some banks to withdraw their stocks before the planes hit the towers, something they knew something was gunna. looks like this here. I hope God belly morogn jp course and ending up homeless without a pencil cup also pee in, I think I want my tax money back from their lame n stupid bailouts.

  • Wiseandawake

    100% GUARANTEED SOLUTION FOR OIL SPILL!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VfypUzx1tI&feat…

  • Salvatore DiChristina

    Selling stock today for 36% more than it would be worth tomorrow should adequately answer “What did they have to gain?”

  • Anonymous

    Wait a minute… “Somehow, a company that was forced into deep waters by a government that they can’t fight, are the one and only bad guys.”

    According to the Center For Responsive Politics, in 2009 the oil and gas industry spent $169 million in lobbying expenses with BP alone spending $15.9 million… now while a lot of that was for hookers and cocaine, it was also to grease the wheels to allow MORE offshore drilling.

    It’s a bizzare world if you think the oil companies are ‘forced’ into offshore drilling to make a massive profit with barely any oversight or regulation. Oh poor things…

  • MrComments

    Common sense goes a long way. Try it someday.

    Tell me this. What was BP’s “agenda” in causing this spill? How exactly does it benefit them? That theory is on par with the “Glenn Beck” type theories that Obama did it to hurt the oil companies. It’s asinine. BP put profits ahead of safe operations (they have a long history of it) , and in this case they may go down because of it. The are losing billions in profit, will be watched on every other drilling operation, etc…….but you think that is “part of the plan”. Forget about Dancing with the Stars pal as even that is beyond your IQ. Perhaps you might want to see if anyone has Romper Room reruns showing…..

  • MrComments

    Common sense goes a long way. Try it someday.

    Tell me this. What was BP’s “agenda” in causing this spill? How exactly does it benefit them? That theory is on par with the “Glenn Beck” type theories that Obama did it to hurt the oil companies. It’s asinine. BP put profits ahead of safe operations (they have a long history of it) , and in this case they may go down because of it. The are losing billions in profit, will be watched on every other drilling operation, etc…….but you think that is “part of the plan”. Forget about Dancing with the Stars pal as even that is beyond your IQ. Perhaps you might want to see if anyone has Romper Room reruns showing…..

  • MrComments

    Common sense goes a long way. Try it someday.

    Tell me this. What was BP’s “agenda” in causing this spill? How exactly does it benefit them? That theory is on par with the “Glenn Beck” type theories that Obama did it to hurt the oil companies. It’s asinine. BP put profits ahead of safe operations (they have a long history of it) , and in this case they may go down because of it. The are losing billions in profit, will be watched on every other drilling operation, etc…….but you think that is “part of the plan”. Forget about Dancing with the Stars pal as even that is beyond your IQ. Perhaps you might want to see if anyone has Romper Room reruns showing…..

  • Jerry Klein

    Good ole' “Goldmans Sack”…. We're all swinging from it.

  • Jerry Klein

    Good ole' “Goldmans Sack”…. We're all swinging from it.

  • Lisa

    Bush – did not do anything alone…..- are we forgetting “majority rules” a mostly democratic Congress, Senate, House….

  • DFW

    Much as I have no use for either Goldman Sachs or BP, if anyone knew in advance that that rig was going to blow, then they must have sabotaged it themselves. Besides, they sold less than they kept. This move was good timing, nothing more, take it from one who wouldn't lose sleep if the boards of directors of both firms spent the rest of their lives behind bars.

  • anon

    It was a nice earth … while it lasted.

  • Salvatore DiChristina

    Isn't it amazing how fortunate Goldman-Sachs is in its timing of divesting itself of stocks that will plunge just before those stocks take a significant drop. What a clear crystal ball they must have or is it possible they had insider data that told them of the doom that was to befall the carelessness, if not criminality, of the faith of the doomed well? Perhaps they could use their crystal ball to predict when and how the well will be plugged and the extent of the damage to our environment.

  • MrComments

    Building 7 explained, including extensive video and audio of fireman saying the building was likely going to collapse. Lots of footage of damage that you never see on “conspiracy sites” for some reason.
    http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm
    Great site actually for debunking all 9/11 myths
    http://www.debunking911.com/index.html

    Anyone who analyzes all the facts wants to know about the real conspiracy (and this site gets into that also)……why the hell the Admin deliberately looked the other way (and maybe even “accommodated”) the attacks. “Controlled demo” theories prevent a proper investigation of the real conspiracy. They have absolutely no basis in fact., including the idiotic missile/Pentagon theory which, if you follow the path of the light poles that were knocked down, would mean the missile “zig-zagged” it’s way to the Pentagon……

    The Towers and Bldg 7 were differing types of construction. They both fell EXACTLY as they should have under those conditions. Most steel structures that are not concrete reinforced (Windsor Tower in Spain, always used by conspiracy theorists as a comparison, was a concrete superstructure) are VERY suceptible to fire. Once one floor got weakened throughout, it was INEVITABLE that “pancake” collapse was coming.

    Again, the question is, with all the alerts coming in, why did the Bush Admin cut the FBI request for 1600 agents down to 56 (as testified), and why was Cofer Black ignored when he gave specific info on an imminent domestic attack. These are very legitimate questions that need to be answered.

  • MrComments

    Building 7 explained, including extensive video and audio of fireman saying the building was likely going to collapse. Lots of footage of damage that you never see on “conspiracy sites” for some reason.
    http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm
    Great site actually for debunking all 9/11 myths
    http://www.debunking911.com/index.html

    Anyone who analyzes all the facts wants to know about the real conspiracy (and this site gets into that also)……why the hell the Admin deliberately looked the other way (and maybe even “accommodated”) the attacks. “Controlled demo” theories prevent a proper investigation of the real conspiracy. They have absolutely no basis in fact., including the idiotic missile/Pentagon theory which, if you follow the path of the light poles that were knocked down, would mean the missile “zig-zagged” it’s way to the Pentagon……

    The Towers and Bldg 7 were differing types of construction. They both fell EXACTLY as they should have under those conditions. Most steel structures that are not concrete reinforced (Windsor Tower in Spain, always used by conspiracy theorists as a comparison, was a concrete superstructure) are VERY suceptible to fire. Once one floor got weakened throughout, it was INEVITABLE that “pancake” collapse was coming.

    Again, the question is, with all the alerts coming in, why did the Bush Admin cut the FBI request for 1600 agents down to 56 (as testified), and why was Cofer Black ignored when he gave specific info on an imminent domestic attack. These are very legitimate questions that need to be answered.

  • Anonymous

    JESUS CHRIST!

  • Anonymous

    JESUS CHRIST!

  • http://www.renegadewizard.com David

    the real problem is when business gets infiltrated by government. free enterprise is reality in the end as the market will always correct itself anyways. All of our governments have turned into parasitic entities that are doing all they can to survive from their hosts by sucking and controlling every part of our life force they can. if you believe the government Obama or anyone has the interests of the people at heart you would be one deluded individual

  • sharky734

    I'm a little freaked out here. I was watching a CNN video on the oil crime and couldn't believe my eyes. I'm an Iron worker and know this kind of shit.They showed you on video that this is being done purposely in this video and no one caught it. What they are attempting tells me the wellbore is intact. That being said, all they had to do is cut the riser pipe, disconnect the remaining riser pipe and cap the dam thing like they did in Iraq. 17 bolts and a new seal is all was needed to disengage. This is a crime that is being committed. I would of had this capped in 48 hours. Watch the video and pause it when you see the wellbore and take a deep breath and use some common sense, just think… Now how would ya get the cap on? You would need a 2 and 1/2 ton counter weight to sustain the pressure and a alignment pin centered in the wellbore.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvZjexRdfjs

  • gza

    They don't want to stop the leak. In fact there is only one way they can stop it. What they want is to control the flow of energy that is coming out of the hole they dug.

    They oil is a small part of the complete picture. It is a trivial amount of energy compared to what they are actually trying to tap.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohorovi%C4%8Di%C4…

  • youidiot

    there is no difference between obama and bush. they are both puppets of the same evil master.

  • Trish

    Well said Lisa! Our goverment is out of control. Our founding fathers are rolling over in their graves over what the past 20 plus years of administration has done to this country.

  • http://piratenews.org Pirate of the Scarabbean

    Inside job. British Empire bombed New Orleans and burned down the White House in the War of 1812. WE ARE UNDER ATTACK. ALARM RED. THIS IS NOT A DRILL.

    “The Non-Jews have been created to serve the Jews as slaves.”
    -Jewish Babylonian Talmud, Midrasch Talpioth 225

    “Everywhere they (the Jews) come, they will be the princes of the lords.”
    -Jewish Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 104a

    “Just the Jews are humans, the Non-Jews are no humans, but cattle.”
    -Jewish Babylonian Talmud, Kerithuth 6b page 78, Jebhammoth 61a (goyim = human cattle)

    “Jews always have to try to deceive Non-Jews.”
    -Jewish Babylonian Talmud, Zohar I, 168a

    “Every Jew is allowed to use lies and perjury to bring a Non-Jew to ruin.”
    -Jewish Babylonian Talmud, Babha Kama 113a

    “The possessions of the goyim are like an ownerless desert, and everybody (every Jew) who seizes it, has acquired it.”
    -Jewish Babylonian Talmud, IV/3/54b

    “In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation.”
    -British Petroleum director/owner Nazi Prince Philip King of the British Empire in charge of bioweapons labs and husband of Queen Elizabeth Sax Coberg Gotha, If I Were an Animal; United Kingdom, Robin Clark Ltd., 1986

  • Guest

    “The next question might be, where did they invest the money after they pulled it out of BP? Into a chemical dispersant company?”

    Now if you could find evidence pointing to something like THAT, I would imagine that those of us who don’t believe there is a conspiracy here might change our tune….

  • Lyman

    They fucked up Nigeria.
    They fucked up Peru.
    Now down in the Gulf
    They're fucking up you.

  • Anonymous

    Your thinking is too narrow. It’s not BP, it’s a united gameplan designed to create chaos. So what if BPs zillion dollar assets are reshuffled into a new company? That is irrelevant. What IS important to understand is that the PTB are counting on complete chaos. This oil dump will contribute significantly to what is coming around mid-July. Look for another huge stock market crash around that time as well.

    The wealth of the world is being acquired by hook and crook by the 15 families that have all the power in the world. There is plenty of information about them online and elsewhere. Try googling the Bildibergs. Understand of course that the information you can get from mainstream sources is very limited. But there is a plan, it’s not god’s plan, it’s the plan of greedy, power mad people who want to reduce the vast human population to slavery.

    Think about it… when your unemployment benefits run out; when you can’t afford the soon-to-escalate-wildly fuel prices; when you can’t afford food not only because your income is zero, but when even your employed neighbors can’t because the food supply has become scarce (related to dead Gulf fishing for the next 20 years and exorbitant fuel costs, thereby reducing the number of truck deliveries); when you have been thrown out of your house by the greedy bankers and you are starving to death on the street, exchanging labor for room and board will sound very good.

    Wait and see. The US is destroying its middle class. When you have no middle class, you have a 2% population that has wealth and 98% dirt poor. That is and always has been a formula for disaster, violence and chaos. Sadly, it is usually inner directed by those without, as the “haves” are well protected in their gated communities.

    It aint goona be pretty.

    So to reiterate: it’s not about BP, which is a fictitious person that will be reorganized and its assets restored before you can say “Bob’s your uncle.” What’s important is what is happening and why.

  • Anonymous

    BP is a ficticious person whose assets will be shuffled into a reorganized entity through bankruptcy. It’s irrelevant, as are the people in the corporation. The corporate beast will survive in another form. That isn’t the point.

  • Johnny Walder

    Wow, you are the most retarded person on the planet. I cannot believe that there is a human being alive that could defend Hussein Obama.

  • christine

    r u sure????? when do acts of god become acts of man?????

  • MrComments

    My thinking pertained to the issue at hand, the spill. It was not “planned”. There are a lot more than 15 families running the world. I can google “obama blew up the well” and “Bush blew up the Towers” and “Obama was born in Kenya” and get lots of stuff no in the “mainstream”. Alex Jones makes a fortune of suckers like you. Keep buying his books, he is laughing all the way to the bank. All his 9/11 theories are in the toilet.

    I’m not saying GS does not manipulate and have great power that they abuse. But there is no way this spill has anything to do with that. It was BP putting profits over proper procedure. But that involves analyzing logistics and rationale thought, way out of Alex Jones league.

  • Elizabeth

    Do you really think his name has anything to do with his affiliations and worth as a human being? Wow. I’d just be careful about who you point the finger at and what you say. That comment could just as easily be applied to you. Just because someone’s name is Joseph doesn’t mean he is a Christian or a Jew, or a good person. Likewise Hussein does not define Obama. Plus if you are trying to imply that he is a terrorist or Muslim then I think you should look up the definition of both of those. The teachings of Islam are really not that fundamentally different from Christianity and Judaism. Please educate yourself before you say such things.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Topaz-Rosin-Luben/560468521 Topaz Rosin Luben

    Perfect timing for Goldman Sachs to sell 250 million dollars worth of BP stock, RIGHT BEFORE the oil leak. Hmmmm, makes you wonder…..

  • localidiot

    so your argment is that obama is better than bush? a fucking rock is better than bush. to believe that obama, who was first employeed and handled by henry Kissinger, is a kennedy want to be, get out of here. obama’s major is constitutional law. do you think he doesnt know the constitution?

    the other problem is your older than 16 year old thinking aint that great. a president should do very little. his job is to protect the homeland and direct the army, he doesnt even have the authority to declare war, he can start it for a certain amount of days, but he has to get congress approval, by the constitution.

    left and right is dead. the king is dead. long live the king.

  • localidiot

    ok, but the better question is, which i dont agree with, who does obama work for? obama is not at the top of the food chain. hes like bush but speaks english when read from a teleprompter, and hes darker but these people dont get into the places they are because this is the land of opportunity, do you still believe that?

    who fits to gain. who has the motive. who has win, win?

  • localidiot

    It was Earth Day and an invisible group of Greenies (TM) boarded the Deepwater Horizon. They were fully unaware, that weeks before, the rubber seal that would prevent a blowout had come up in PIECES.

    no retard if they are in the conspiracy it doesnt have to be a coincidence.

  • localidiot

    that has to be one of the mindless comment i have ever read.

    “They can now revers the off shore drilling approval that so upset their radical enviromental wing. They can go after BP to appease the anti-capitalist wing of the liberal democratic party.”

  • Vic Anderson

    This revelation lends credence to this as not only a diversion from the Afghan/Bernankster debacles, but one inevitably of future Sacks' profitablity when the Gulf/eastern Seaboard's sufficiently contaminated that Drill, Barry, Drill can conclude 'we may as well'!

  • shopdad

    There is no fire at all

  • shopdad

    You are almost correct

  • shopdad

    You hit the nail on the head, so far you are the only one here who has it right, others have been close.

  • shopdad

    Who?

  • Antonio Rules

    I felt this needed to be reposted in light of all the other useless comments arguing left and right. This is the best comment I have read to date on this site. Antonio dude just keep reposting this comment to every story on this site. Rock on. Maybe people will start to wake up from this nightmare.

    “So if you want to go down the conspiracy road, look at the people who would most likely be involved and QUIT BLAMING BUSH.

    Was I better off under Bush than Obamanation? YES!!!!!!! “

    No offense, but its sad to see people defending one traitorous bacteria as a means of attacking another scum bucket. No, your right there are no Republican/or/Democrat conspiracies, but rather just one big conspiracy against the sadly deluded masses. Don't lick boots for any of these elitists scum. Do we elect lobbyists? How about Billionaires or Trillionaire Oligarchs? Didn't think so. Those Diebold Electronic voting machines are so trusty aren't they. As Stalin pointed out that the voters decide nothing, but he who counts the votes decides everything.
    But other than that one does wonder about these things. Motive, opportunity, along with amorality.
    Yeah, the left/right false paradigm is nothing more than a crock of horseshit…. well actually its a mixture of dried jackass manure sauteed (misspelled?) in elephant dung. So yeah there may be a few good men/women in the entire congress, but overall the system is not in any way, shape or form serving the general populace of the United States. No guys, our constitutional republic has for many years been continuously deconstructed and ultimately been captured by an economic and self-described intellectual elite, who generally regard the general population as too stupid to govern themselves, nor conscious enough to realize as much. Well, I don't fully agree with such conclusions, because history is still being written day by day. However, I fear that the powerful spell cast upon most people by 24/7 corporate propaganda with plenty of bread and a nonstop circus is possibly too much to overcome.. Yes, folks you can't go wrong with bread and games: football, basketball, baseball, political theater, and everything else Television offers humanity. I don't think I've got “It” figured out. What we need is for people to wake up, to engage in original thought, to think for themselves, to realize that an education isn't a college degree, but that an education is the sum total of every useful, and logical thought process, which you develop throughout your life. Read a book, turn off the TV( or at least reduce how much you watch), stop expecting any school system (public or private) to educate your children or even grandchildren. An old friend told me he didn't really have much time to read and yet I know he watches several hours of television everyday after work. I am not speaking down on him, because he was a genuinely honest and good human being, who was as intelligent as anyone I've ever met. However, he had over time regressed and become complacent as a result of too much passive entertainment (TV and Associated Press newsstories)

  • shopdad

    If you are going to be calling others morons, you should at least be able to use spell check.
    Halliburton not Haliburton is the way to spell it. What is the word for someone who cannot spell or even check it? One L is no big deal, just like this blog. Who cares what you people have to say?

  • Antonio Rules

    And by the way who shorted American airlines etc.. by abnormally large margins just before 911 even happened? This oil spill was manufactured. I have no doubt. Carbon taxex are on the way my friends and so is the new worl order. Comin to a tv staion near you. Enjoy

  • Antonio Rules

    And by the way who shorted American airlines etc.. by abnormally large margins just before 911 even happened? This oil spill was manufactured. I have no doubt. Carbon taxex are on the way my friends and so is the new worl order. Comin to a tv staion near you. Enjoy

  • http://www.facebook.com/molesko Morgan Lesko

    Excellent catch! Been cataloged in free collaborative research database:

    http://infowardocs.org/a/0/1/t/Boots%20~a~%20Co…

  • Elizabeth

    Here's an idea… we are all partially responsible because we all do not demand that these companies be held accountable until something goes wrong.

  • Carola

    Just like the “puts” on the airlines, and the insurance on the WTC, etc. before 9 11. Very suspicious.

  • Carola

    Just like the “puts” on the airlines, and the insurance on the WTC, etc. before 9 11. Very suspicious.

  • Rick

    It wasn’t under Democratic majority until 2006 !

  • Rick

    It wasn’t under Democratic majority until 2006 !

  • Anonymous

    Sadly, you are stuck in the belief that a single corporation is meaningful in this broad scheme for total domination through capitalism. BP is just a tool, like all the other corporate entities.

    I don’t believe Bush blew up the towers– I believe the towers were destroyed as part of a massive consipiracy of business and defense interests. THEY are the ones who directly benefitted from the towers’ destruction. The Pentagon was a clumsy effort to gild the lilly — they have yet to release a SINGLE photo of any plane hitting the pentagon. Conveniently the side of the Pentagon that was “attacked” is the only of the five sides EVER to have been reinforced. Curiously, since 9/11 no effort has been made, nor discussion had, of reinforcing the other four Pentagon sides — wonder why? Perhaps the single reinforced side served its purpose. At this point, people who continue to believe the official, totally silly 9/11 story are fools, not I. The facts speak so loudly it’s difficult to hear the din of naysayers any more.

    As for Obama’s birth cert, I think that’s just silly right wing fluff.

    I don’t subscribe to or read Alex Jones, but I can read history. Google “Reinhardt goggle financial” and educate yourself about how wealth has been stolen and transferred upward for the last 8 centuries by the Vatican corp whose extensive business interests reach all over the world.

    1 Rockefeller Family Standard Oil
    2 Morgan Family J. P. Morgan & Co.
    3 Ford Family Ford Motors
    4. Queen of England
    5. Prince of Denmark
    6 Harkness Family Standard Oil
    7 Mellon Family Aluminum Company
    8 Vanderbilt Family NY Central R&R
    9 Whitney Family Standard Oil
    10 Standard Oil Families Standard Oil
    11 Du Pont Family DuPont
    12 McCormick Family International Harvester, Chicago Times
    13 Baker Family First National Bank
    14 Fisher Family General Motors
    15 Guggenheim Family American Smelting & Refining Co.

    There are other wealthy families, of course, but these are the main controllers of the world’s wealth. It is their bidding the 435 whores in congress and the White House are doing. Sorry if you can’t see that but if you believe our “elected” officials are acting for the general welfare and common good of this country you are delusional. So, who are they working for? You have the list right here. Check it out.

    And please don’t assume just because someone believes in one conspiracy of power, that they buy into all the silly shit. Some people just like to live in comfortable little bubbles, I suppose.

  • Anonymous

    Sadly, you are stuck in the belief that a single corporation is meaningful in this broad scheme for total domination through capitalism. BP is just a tool, like all the other corporate entities.

    I don’t believe Bush blew up the towers– I believe the towers were destroyed as part of a massive consipiracy of business and defense interests. THEY are the ones who directly benefitted from the towers’ destruction. The Pentagon was a clumsy effort to gild the lilly — they have yet to release a SINGLE photo of any plane hitting the pentagon. Conveniently the side of the Pentagon that was “attacked” is the only of the five sides EVER to have been reinforced. Curiously, since 9/11 no effort has been made, nor discussion had, of reinforcing the other four Pentagon sides — wonder why? Perhaps the single reinforced side served its purpose. At this point, people who continue to believe the official, totally silly 9/11 story are fools, not I. The facts speak so loudly it’s difficult to hear the din of naysayers any more.

    As for Obama’s birth cert, I think that’s just silly right wing fluff.

    I don’t subscribe to or read Alex Jones, but I can read history. Google “Reinhardt goggle financial” and educate yourself about how wealth has been stolen and transferred upward for the last 8 centuries by the Vatican corp whose extensive business interests reach all over the world.

    1 Rockefeller Family Standard Oil
    2 Morgan Family J. P. Morgan & Co.
    3 Ford Family Ford Motors
    4. Queen of England
    5. Prince of Denmark
    6 Harkness Family Standard Oil
    7 Mellon Family Aluminum Company
    8 Vanderbilt Family NY Central R&R
    9 Whitney Family Standard Oil
    10 Standard Oil Families Standard Oil
    11 Du Pont Family DuPont
    12 McCormick Family International Harvester, Chicago Times
    13 Baker Family First National Bank
    14 Fisher Family General Motors
    15 Guggenheim Family American Smelting & Refining Co.

    There are other wealthy families, of course, but these are the main controllers of the world’s wealth. It is their bidding the 435 whores in congress and the White House are doing. Sorry if you can’t see that but if you believe our “elected” officials are acting for the general welfare and common good of this country you are delusional. So, who are they working for? You have the list right here. Check it out.

    And please don’t assume just because someone believes in one conspiracy of power, that they buy into all the silly shit. Some people just like to live in comfortable little bubbles, I suppose.

  • MrComments

    Obama is the best we have had since Ike. Kennedy was very naive and overrated (spoiled rich kid). You can’t just walk in and wave a magic wand. Change takes time. Yes, he can pass Executive Orders, but the next president can just undo them. You need to push Legislation, which requires a Congress. Health Care was a perfect example. Obama wanted a much better Bill than the one he got, but that’s because his own Party was fighting him.

    Obama, along with people like Bernie Sanders and Dennis Kucinich, is one of the few people in DC that really is on your side. He came from “the streets” and “gets it”. He just has a long battle ahead of him. When you consider what he has done in the short span he has been in office, it is actually very impressive. And he is exposing those in Congress who are “sponsored”, and hopefully we will get some new faces in 2010…..and no, I don’t mean Tea Party (though I like them because the split the Repubs into dumb and dumber).. We need some new Dem blood in there.

    Sorry, but I disagree with you. No, Obama is not the savior, but if McCain was in power we would be bombing Iran, have no Health Care Bill at all, people under $200k would be paying MORE taxes while people making billions would be paying LESS. .

  • MrComments

    Obama is the best we have had since Ike. Kennedy was very naive and overrated (spoiled rich kid). You can’t just walk in and wave a magic wand. Change takes time. Yes, he can pass Executive Orders, but the next president can just undo them. You need to push Legislation, which requires a Congress. Health Care was a perfect example. Obama wanted a much better Bill than the one he got, but that’s because his own Party was fighting him.

    Obama, along with people like Bernie Sanders and Dennis Kucinich, is one of the few people in DC that really is on your side. He came from “the streets” and “gets it”. He just has a long battle ahead of him. When you consider what he has done in the short span he has been in office, it is actually very impressive. And he is exposing those in Congress who are “sponsored”, and hopefully we will get some new faces in 2010…..and no, I don’t mean Tea Party (though I like them because the split the Repubs into dumb and dumber).. We need some new Dem blood in there.

    Sorry, but I disagree with you. No, Obama is not the savior, but if McCain was in power we would be bombing Iran, have no Health Care Bill at all, people under $200k would be paying MORE taxes while people making billions would be paying LESS. .

  • MrComments

    Give the 9/11 Conspiracy childish banter a rest. Newsflash:

    Building 7 explained, including extensive video and audio of fireman saying the building was likely going to collapse. Lots of footage of damage that you never see on “conspiracy sites” for some reason.
    http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm
    Great site actually for debunking all 9/11 myths
    http://www.debunking911.com/index.html

    Anyone who analyzes all the facts wants to know about the real conspiracy (and this site gets into that also)……why the hell the Admin deliberately looked the other way (and maybe even “accommodated”) the attacks. “Controlled demo” theories prevent a proper investigation of the real conspiracy. They have absolutely no basis in fact., including the idiotic missile/Pentagon theory which, if you follow the path of the light poles that were knocked down, would mean the missile “zig-zagged” it’s way to the Pentagon……

    The Towers and Bldg 7 were differing types of construction. They both fell EXACTLY as they should have under those conditions. Most steel structures that are not concrete reinforced (Windsor Tower in Spain, always used by conspiracy theorists as a comparison, was a concrete superstructure) are VERY suceptible to fire. Once one floor got weakened throughout, it was INEVITABLE that “pancake” collapse was coming.

    Again, the question is, with all the alerts coming in, why did the Bush Admin cut the FBI request for 1600 agents down to 56 (as testified), and why was Cofer Black ignored when he gave specific info on an imminent domestic attack. These are very legitimate questions that need to be answered.

    Yes, the wealthy control the world. But they did not blow up the Towers (nor did they have to since the buildings were of inferior design pertaining tyo fire). Cheney and the boys looked the other way. And this oil spill is nothing more than gross neglect and incompetence by BP.

  • MrComments

    Give the 9/11 Conspiracy childish banter a rest. Newsflash:

    Building 7 explained, including extensive video and audio of fireman saying the building was likely going to collapse. Lots of footage of damage that you never see on “conspiracy sites” for some reason.
    http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm
    Great site actually for debunking all 9/11 myths
    http://www.debunking911.com/index.html

    Anyone who analyzes all the facts wants to know about the real conspiracy (and this site gets into that also)……why the hell the Admin deliberately looked the other way (and maybe even “accommodated”) the attacks. “Controlled demo” theories prevent a proper investigation of the real conspiracy. They have absolutely no basis in fact., including the idiotic missile/Pentagon theory which, if you follow the path of the light poles that were knocked down, would mean the missile “zig-zagged” it’s way to the Pentagon……

    The Towers and Bldg 7 were differing types of construction. They both fell EXACTLY as they should have under those conditions. Most steel structures that are not concrete reinforced (Windsor Tower in Spain, always used by conspiracy theorists as a comparison, was a concrete superstructure) are VERY suceptible to fire. Once one floor got weakened throughout, it was INEVITABLE that “pancake” collapse was coming.

    Again, the question is, with all the alerts coming in, why did the Bush Admin cut the FBI request for 1600 agents down to 56 (as testified), and why was Cofer Black ignored when he gave specific info on an imminent domestic attack. These are very legitimate questions that need to be answered.

    Yes, the wealthy control the world. But they did not blow up the Towers (nor did they have to since the buildings were of inferior design pertaining tyo fire). Cheney and the boys looked the other way. And this oil spill is nothing more than gross neglect and incompetence by BP.

  • R. Duke

    let the conspiracies roll in… I think it was Gary Coleman and Diver Dan with the pipe wrench in the library. Get real, the spill and entire accident stems from poor management and even worse maintenance.

  • SmartestOne

    Good. Get back on them then.

  • Disgusted

    Queen Elizabeth Owns BP

    http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=172467.0

    Rotschild owns controlling interest in BP:

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=does+rothschild+own+controlling+interest+in+BP%3F&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

    The “British” (really German) royal family and Rothschilds are an intermixed bloodline.

    Keep focusing on minutiae like stock prices. Meanwhile the bigger picture rages on…

    This was an INSIDE JOB to advance the New World Order agenda. That’s how Goldman Sachs knew to sell in advance. It’s also how Obama’s cronies — both in and out of Chicago — who profitted from the “spill” knew to make their financial moves:

    http://www.blogster.com/joannemor/bombshell-expose-the-real-reason-the-oil-still-flows-into-the-gulf-of-mexico

  • SmartestOne

    My friend, you have most of the picture. Obama’s birth certificate is “silly right wing shit?”

    Do you know how many quotes from Obama’s associates and relatives (including two from Michelle) say that he was born in Kenya? If this is a red herring, then please explain why Obama would seal ALL of his records, transcripts, etc. That is UNPRECEDENTED in U.S. history; usually we know it everytime a president has a mole removed! WHY did Obama spend millons on four law firms to fight this in court rather than the $12.50 to obtain a copy of a real birth certificate (if there is one)?

    Don’t quote factcheck.org, which is ANNENBERG (Obama connected), either. That Certification of Live Birth (1) has been altered. (2) is NOT a birth certificate!

    Or is your argument that the U.S. Constitutional requirements for POTUS don’t matter?

  • MrComments

    Anneburg is Reagan connected too you jackass. It is mostly Conservatives on the board. WTF are you talking about?? Obama has released the same document every other candidate has. It is a DONE DEAL. As to his college transcripts, I would be willing to bet that some things he said then were a little radical, and the media would have a field day with it. He has “grown up” since then. And the reason they won’t release the full length document is not only because NO ONE ELSE has to, but because, like the Pentagon plane footage, they are holding it. One makes fools of Birthers, one makes fools of Truthers. You ALWAYS hold your trump card.

    Additonally, may say McCain was born in the hospital outside the US military base in Panama….not on it. That would make him ineligible. But you know what, that to is an idiotic path to go down. But McCain is more likely ineligible than Obama you moron.

    Oh yeah, and the newspapers in Hawaii were “in on the scam” too as they both printed birth announcements. And the officials who have viewed all docs are Republicans, who would like nothing more than to take Obama down…..but of course they are “in on it” too.

    Even Right Wing News Max has given up on saying the Cert is not legit. And of course the McCain and Hillary campaigns decided to “ignore” the issue? Riiiiiight. You’re looney tunes. You and Orly Taitz and Jerome Corsi belong on the Funny Farm. I love when they show Corsi on FOX, but never ask him about his views on 9/11…..Corsi thinks the Towers were blown up…..how come Beck and Hannity never discuss that with him. He caters to Left and Right Looneys because there is a lot of money in it from naive suckers like you and the “Truthers”.

    Some well sourced links here too.
    http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp
    http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/kenyacert.asp
    http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asphttp://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/passport.asp
    http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/carter.asp

    There is a “real world” out there. Come join it sometime.

  • MrComments

    You are nuts with your links to blogs and Alex Jones idiocy. First of all, the Brits sold off their interest in BP in the 70′s. Alex forgot to tell you that?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BP

    Some blogger says the Rothschilds control BP. WOW!

    Stop reading idiotic blogs.

    Oh, yes, the “powers that be” do in fact manipulate markets by using their pens, etc. But they have no clue on “logistics” and could never execute such a plan if they wanted to.. BP has been doing risky drilling for years. It finally caught up to them. Are you telling me that there was ZERO chance of an oil well blowing up, and only a “planned event” could cause it when you are dealing with MASSIVE pressures and gases. Do you live in a “bubble”?

    Yes, people are profiting from this. People profit from everything. People are also losing money on this. How come no one talks about that? Also, there were sell-offs in most markets as the market had peaked. Yes, manipulation……but how does that lead to an oil leak? Mothers Milk leads to Heroin……

    And you talk about the Brit power and manipulation. Yes, here you have a British company potentially going under or being taken over. And the US government will be having criminal prosecutions. This was the plane. WTF are you on crack?

  • jtre

    There is a silent, underground war going on between corporations and governments. When governments try to hold corporations accountable, they sabotage the planet, forcing governments to back off. Our world is being held hostage by an entity that can't be defeated.

  • jtre

    Close your eyes. You are as you should be.

  • jtre

    Stay submissive. Close your eyes. You are as you should be.

  • Jim

    This is the best posting I’ve ever read. Wow! Are you really Chris Hedges or Matt Taibbi? Greg Palast, then? No? Not all the above! Wow!

  • Jim

    This is the best posting I’ve ever read. Wow! Are you really Chris Hedges or Matt Taibbi? Greg Palast, then? No? Not all the above! Wow!

  • Disgusted

    While you Rethugs and Dims point fingers at each other's respective corrupt political machines, this nation's eastern coasts (southeastern and northeastern) are being destroyed.
    As much anger as I feel toward the Powers that Be, it is the SHEEPLE in this country who really piss me off.

    There IS a conspiracy. This oil “spill” was just another in a long line of INSIDE JOBS. Read REAL history (not the sanitized crap), and you will learn that there have been conspiracies wherever there is a locus of POWER. One primary group of CONSPIRATORS (Bilderberg) is meeting right now in Spain with UNPRECEDENTED news media coverage.

    WE THE PEOPLE have been manipulated by these people using HEGELIAN DIALECT, which is why you're all busy screaming at each other instead of the CRIMNALS at the top. To start you can research (you have to READ, and not mainstream crap!) Trilateral Commission (ZBig and Rockefeller's group, who installed the Obama regime), Council on Foreign Relations, Council of Rome, Freemasons, Skull and Bones (Bush and Kerry's super-elite group that operates out of Yale), Bilderbergers, Bohemian Grove. There are a lot more. Some excellent researchers/authors: Anthony Sutton, G. Edward Griffin, Eustace Mullins, Myron Fagan, Bill Cooper, Joan Veon (she focuses exclusively on the UN).

    You need to look at BLOODLINES. Bush, Kerry, Palin, Obama, Clinton (and MOST U.S. Presidents and all European royalty) have Illuminati (blue) blood and are RELATED TO EACH OTHER. Scott Brown is Obama's cousin!!

    While they may have their minor differences, at the end of the day THEY ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. How do you think Ahnold Schwarzayigger, a “Republican” (who is also of NAZI descent!!) married a Kennedy? James Carville and Mary Matalin?

    EVERYONE who values their LIFE, LIBERTY, and FREEDOM should read up on the UN's Agenda 21. (U.N. land donated by Rockefeller, charter written by Algier Hiss!!!) LOOK AT THE AGENDA 21 U.S. MAP. Once that evil plan is implemented, we will all be CRAMMED DENSELY PACKED INTO CITIES. Wildlife areas will be OFF LIMITS to us “unwashed masses,” only the “elites” will have access to those. Your taxes will be SKY HIGH. You will NOT be allowed to own ANY property, and of course gun ownership is out of the question. My city, Tucson, has socialists on the City Council who are moving this town closer toward that crap every day!! Sound miserable enough for you? It should, and that is exactly where we are headed!

    To take this country back we accomplish THREE MAJOR THINGS:
    1) Get out of the U.N.
    2) Abolish the Fed and take control of own money again. (See Google video, The Money Masters)
    3) Repeal all “free trade” (which are anything but!) agreements and Executive Orders (dictators' rulings!) going back to the 1980s.

    This is a HUGE task that we face.

    So, turn off your cognitive dissonance (if you don't know what it means, look it up!) and your TV. Stop listening to talking heads who indoctrinate you: On the right Hush Lobotomy and Yawn Insanity. On the left UN PR (NPR) and the New York Slimes. That is BULLCRAP! Corporate- or government-owned media WILL NOT tell you what you need to know, and they will spoon-feed you B.S. all day long to keep you distracted.

    You will read asinine arguments like “but we have a global economy!” Fine, we can be trading partners. But NOT at our own country's expense!

    Finally, remember that FASCISM is both CORPORATE AND STATE. Those on the left like to focus on the CORPORATE portion, those on the right like to focus on the STATE portion. They will BOTH be our masters when/if we go fascist

    The only way we can save what's left of this country is if we come together. But first you need to be EDUCATED, and the only way you can do that is to OPEN YOUR MIND.

    Wine cannot be poured into a closed vessel. — Latin saying

  • Skippy

    It's always follow the money!

  • http://www.facebook.com/totaltalent Chris Carpinello

    impeach obama!!!

  • Jim Barlucci

    This was no accident. Goldman Sachs was heavily shorting Transocean and related stocks several days before the “blowout.” This means someone knew what was coming, although this glaring fact should surprise no one. Wall Street and the CIA are joined at the hip, often interchanging their executives in a revolving door cycle emphasizing the greed, power and information needs of both the intelligence services and the financial industry. When was the last honest deal brokered by Goldman Sachs anyway?

  • http://cleanthegulfnow.org/archives/follow-the-data-forget-conspiracy-theory/ Follow The Data, Forget Conspiracy Theory

    [...] those same few weeks Goldman Sachs shorted 44% of its BP holdings, while Wachovia and UBS sold 98% and 97% of their BP [...]

  • MrComments

    Wow, your intellect is way beyond mine, I better not even respond. Have fun in recess.

  • MrComments

    Wow, your intellect is way beyond mine, I better not even respond. Have fun in recess.

  • MrComments

    That idiot is not worth more than one line of typing when replying. He will never educate himself because he loves being ignorant…it’s easier than thinking.

  • Anonymous

    If constitutional requirements mattered, banks wouldn’t be in charge, in fact, the Fed would never have been created and most of the people who have been shunted in and out of the Executive Office in the name of “democracy” since Hoover would have never been anywhere near the White House.

    The birth cert is a waste of time and just another silly distraction.

  • Anonymous

    Hey, it’s ok if you choose to believe the official line. The truth will never be revealed anyway, or when it finally becomes obvious years later (as has the Kennedy assassination “single bullet theory” been discredited) it won’t matter any more.

    It could never happen here anyway.

  • MrComments

    Another idiot in denial with zero facts, just “it’s all a conspiracy”. What does the Kennedy assassination have to do with this? I just showed you a site with AUDIO AND VIDEO proof the Towers and Bldg 7 came down EXACTLY as they should have. You have shown me squat, just like the Warren Commission.

  • Anonymous

    Your so-called facts are erroneous. But you will continue to believe the official hogwash about 9/11, that’s your choice. Notably I’ve gotten through every single of my comments without calling you an idiot or any other name. Get a grip. I don’t care if you believe me or don’t. I’m not trying to prove anything here. Believe what you want, it’s no skin off my nose.

  • Anonymous

    Obviously it’s very important to MrComments to “prove” you wrong, even if he can only argue that you’re “nuts” and attempt to discredit you by association. Clearly, MrComments believes you to be a threat in some way. I can’t even guess why else his responses to your comments and mine are derisive, snarky and emotional.

  • Anonymous

    Another one towing the official hogwash.

  • Anonymous

    The Pentagon exposes 9/11 for the inside job it was. The only of the five sides to be reinforced before the attacks (!!!) and it “just happened to be” the side the “terrorists” attacked. But for the reinforcement, the Pentagon would have been destroyed.

    So, even setting aside the remaining inexplicable information regarding the Pentagon (i.e., no video of a plane, hole to tiny for plane, etc.) can ANYONE explain why since 9/11 the remaining four sides of the Pentagon were not similarly “reinforced”?

    In a nation overly paranoid about security and in particular “national security” one would think that would have been the first thing done post 9/11. But it wasn’t.

  • MrComments

    You have it backwards. Business has infiltrated the government, that is the problem. The write legislation, which is absurd and totally against Democracy. The Scandinavian countries have a free enterprise system and non-corrupt government. THAT is free enterprise. Here we have monopolies. The huge mergers that take place are totally AGAINST free markets You haven’t a clue what you are talking about.

  • MrComments

    Stop with the generalizations. Specifically what facts are not correct on this site. SPECIFICALLY WHAT??? Not. “it;’s all wrong and I am right”. Do you even have analytic capabilities?

    http://www.debunking911.com/civil.htm

    This shows all the stupid stuff on “conspiracy sites”, and then shows you the stuff the conspiracy stuff “forgot to include”. The for some reason the conspiracy sites. NEVER…and I mean NEVER…address the additional footage and info…..because it makes them look silly. Hell, Loose Change has had at least 4 remakes (and we are talking major remakes), and they STILL know they don’t have it right. A bunch of college boy dicks with no clue put together a video…….of nonsense. So, SPECIFICALLY what don’t you agree with?

  • MrComments

    Well then prove I am wrong. I just showed you the Queen and the British government sold off BP in the 70′s…….completely the opposite of some blog from some dick. So, show me where the British government owns BP then. Just SHOW ME>

    I can say “The Saudis own Staples and Office Max”. There I said it. So it’s true? Try experiencing reality. I am only proving wrong people who say 2 plus 2 = 5. And when I do, they ignore that argument and tell me 3 + 3 = 7. I feel like I am lecturing grade school kids.

  • MrComments

    The missile would have had to zig zag to knock down the light poles that fell, plus it would have had to BOUNCE…..yes BOUNCE of a generator. This is WELL DOCUMENTED.. You are an imbecile. There are enormous amounts of info proving a plane hit the Pentagon. It is not even debatable……unless you have Sarah Palin’s IQ.
    http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.asp

  • MrComments

    And also, if 9/11 was a “big government plot”, why did they not have any Iraqi hijackers? Not a bunch….JUST ONE. That would have made selling the Iraq War a PIECE OF CAKE. Instead they had to wage a monumental BS propaganda campaign that made the look ridiculous and almost cost them the 2004 election. If they just had ONE Iraqi hijacker who was “in cahoots with Al Qaeda”, the public would have been begging THEM (the Bush Admin) for a war with Iraq…..instead of having to have it sold for them. So with all the detailed planning for this thing (explosives…..timers….etc.)……..they forgot something that would have been SIMPLE to do. There were Al Qaeda in the north of Iraq (not Saddams;’ area)…..and all you had to do was have one of those guys be on one of the planes…….but they “forgot” that in the “plan room”. Do you know how utterly ridiculous you sound?

  • MrComments

    And also, if 9/11 was a “big government plot”, why did they not have any Iraqi hijackers? Not a bunch….JUST ONE. That would have made selling the Iraq War a PIECE OF CAKE. Instead they had to wage a monumental BS propaganda campaign that made the look ridiculous and almost cost them the 2004 election. If they just had ONE Iraqi hijacker who was “in cahoots with Al Qaeda”, the public would have been begging THEM (the Bush Admin) for a war with Iraq…..instead of having to have it sold for them. So with all the detailed planning for this thing (explosives…..timers….etc.)……..they forgot something that would have been SIMPLE to do. There were Al Qaeda in the north of Iraq (not Saddams;’ area)…..and all you had to do was have one of those guys be on one of the planes…….but they “forgot” that in the “plan room”. Do you know how utterly ridiculous you sound?

  • MrComments

    And also, if 9/11 was a “big government plot”, why did they not have any Iraqi hijackers? Not a bunch….JUST ONE. That would have made selling the Iraq War a PIECE OF CAKE. Instead they had to wage a monumental BS propaganda campaign that made the look ridiculous and almost cost them the 2004 election. If they just had ONE Iraqi hijacker who was “in cahoots with Al Qaeda”, the public would have been begging THEM (the Bush Admin) for a war with Iraq…..instead of having to have it sold for them. So with all the detailed planning for this thing (explosives…..timers….etc.)……..they forgot something that would have been SIMPLE to do. There were Al Qaeda in the north of Iraq (not Saddams;’ area)…..and all you had to do was have one of those guys be on one of the planes…….but they “forgot” that in the “plan room”. Do you know how utterly ridiculous you sound?

  • MrComments

    And also, if 9/11 was a “big government plot”, why did they not have any Iraqi hijackers? Not a bunch….JUST ONE. That would have made selling the Iraq War a PIECE OF CAKE. Instead they had to wage a monumental BS propaganda campaign that made the look ridiculous and almost cost them the 2004 election. If they just had ONE Iraqi hijacker who was “in cahoots with Al Qaeda”, the public would have been begging THEM (the Bush Admin) for a war with Iraq…..instead of having to have it sold for them. So with all the detailed planning for this thing (explosives…..timers….etc.)……..they forgot something that would have been SIMPLE to do. There were Al Qaeda in the north of Iraq (not Saddams;’ area)…..and all you had to do was have one of those guys be on one of the planes…….but they “forgot” that in the “plan room”. Do you know how utterly ridiculous you sound?

  • MrComments

    And also, if 9/11 was a “big government plot”, why did they not have any Iraqi hijackers? Not a bunch….JUST ONE. That would have made selling the Iraq War a PIECE OF CAKE. Instead they had to wage a monumental BS propaganda campaign that made the look ridiculous and almost cost them the 2004 election. If they just had ONE Iraqi hijacker who was “in cahoots with Al Qaeda”, the public would have been begging THEM (the Bush Admin) for a war with Iraq…..instead of having to have it sold for them. So with all the detailed planning for this thing (explosives…..timers….etc.)……..they forgot something that would have been SIMPLE to do. There were Al Qaeda in the north of Iraq (not Saddams;’ area)…..and all you had to do was have one of those guys be on one of the planes…….but they “forgot” that in the “plan room”. Do you know how utterly ridiculous you sound?

  • MrComments

    And also, if 9/11 was a “big government plot”, why did they not have any Iraqi hijackers? Not a bunch….JUST ONE. That would have made selling the Iraq War a PIECE OF CAKE. Instead they had to wage a monumental BS propaganda campaign that made the look ridiculous and almost cost them the 2004 election. If they just had ONE Iraqi hijacker who was “in cahoots with Al Qaeda”, the public would have been begging THEM (the Bush Admin) for a war with Iraq…..instead of having to have it sold for them. So with all the detailed planning for this thing (explosives…..timers….etc.)……..they forgot something that would have been SIMPLE to do. There were Al Qaeda in the north of Iraq (not Saddams;’ area)…..and all you had to do was have one of those guys be on one of the planes…….but they “forgot” that in the “plan room”. Do you know how utterly ridiculous you sound?

  • MrComments

    I agree the official story is hogwash….but so is yours. Kind of like when Bush said “you are with us, or you are with the terrorists”. Really, can’t I be with NEITHER of you? There was a major coverup due to the fact that this Admin was told what would happen, plus the ties to the Saudis and Pakis were a MAJOR political embarrassment. The official report is BS, and the “controlled demo is REALLY BS”.

  • MrComments

    I agree the official story is hogwash….but so is yours. Kind of like when Bush said “you are with us, or you are with the terrorists”. Really, can’t I be with NEITHER of you? There was a major coverup due to the fact that this Admin was told what would happen, plus the ties to the Saudis and Pakis were a MAJOR political embarrassment. The official report is BS, and the “controlled demo is REALLY BS”.

  • MrComments

    I agree the official story is hogwash….but so is yours. Kind of like when Bush said “you are with us, or you are with the terrorists”. Really, can’t I be with NEITHER of you? There was a major coverup due to the fact that this Admin was told what would happen, plus the ties to the Saudis and Pakis were a MAJOR political embarrassment. The official report is BS, and the “controlled demo is REALLY BS”.

  • NJK

    And Adolf Hitler was a figment of our imagination, and never gassed millions of jews, right?

  • Rebecca

    Guess who removed those regulations?

    Thanks, Bush

    you asshole

  • http://freedomgraffiti.blogspot.com Brent Melville

    Telling Obama to stop offshore drilling will only benefit big oil and maintain high oil prices.

  • Anonymous

    I never said 9.11 was a “big government plot” I said it was a conspiracy of business interests and that’s what I meant. What was destroyed in building 7 were the fruits of years and years of SEC investigations. Had that evidence come to light the economic crisis we are now in would not have happened — at least not to the degree of magnitude it did.

    The lessor of the WTC made over 9 BILLION dollars in insurance proceeds, despite the fact that acts of war are typically EXCLUDED from insurance policies as a covered risk. Had the towers fallen on their own (and there is architechtural/engineering evidence that it would eventually have done so due to the towers’ flawed design) the costs would have been even greater, both in human life and monetarily. As it was as of 9/11 the WTC towers were filled with asbestos that would have cost millions to remove. Further, the day before 9./11 American Airlines was on the verge of bankruptcy. The day after 9/11 the airlines got a 13 BILLION dollar gift. Defense contractors, pharmaceutical people, financiers and banks who very much wanted war because it’s so profitable for them, had every interest in seeing 9.11 happen. Finally the DOD arguably, the most paranoid body on earth, just happened to be taking the day off from zealously guarding the airspace over critical spots in the USA long enough for a bunch of amateurs to fly uninhibited throughout US airspace. I have already discussed the flaw in the effort to gild the lily by hitting the Pentagon. Obviously that was no plane.

    The ONLY people who benefitted from 9/11 were the money/defense people. Everyone else got fucked and we are still getting fucked.

    Obama is now using the “Patriot Act” (which was written during the Clinton administration but not by government people) to turn against so-called “domestic”: terrorists. Knowing the propensity to abuse such wide swaths of power, soon anyone who looks sideways at a cop will be suspected of “terrorism”. A meaningless term but laden with abuse.

    I don’t “sound” ridiculous. I am about the only one here who continues to make sense. The official 9/.11 story is ridiculous and anyone with a basic understanding of physical science could easily tell you that.

    However, it’s cool if you want to continue believing that it couldn’t happen here and that anyone like myself who believes it could and did, are “crazy” or “idiots” or “nuts” or “ridiculous”. I’m sure all of those adjectives are helpful to you in maintaining your bubble of denial.

    Peace.

  • Anonymous

    bla bla bla, Ginger, bla bla bla, Ginger.

    Again, I don’t care if you believe me, I am not trying to prove anything.

    Peace.

  • Shhh..

    Quit being loyal to any party and become loyal to America. Our politicians are too busy packing their pockets with institutionalized business dollars to worry about poll numbers. Isn't it obvious by now!?

    There are a very few select politicians that believe they are there to serve the public interest. The majority are there laughing about how stupid we are attacking one another on party lines while they ALL sit behind closed doors at the same dinner table planning their next movement of propaganda to get us to fall in line and deciding who's back they are going to scratch next.

    I mean really, what has your party done for you lately!???

  • MrComments

    I never said 9/11 was not allowed to happen, and perhaps even financed. But it WAS planes crashing that took the buildings down, including Bldg 7. Controlled demo is a bogus theory. Period. This link has an enormous amount of footage CLEARLY showing how Bldg 7 came down.
    http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm
    How could the plan have possibly taken into account that the Antenna and various other debris from the Towers would come down at the exact angle so as to strike Bldg 7 the way it did. There is no way that could have been planned.

    And this was the World Trade Center, so obviously there are an enormous amount of SEC Docs there. The Financial Crisis was caused by the Commodities Futures Modernization Act primarily (allowing Goldman Sachs and the banks to do whatever they wanted), along with idiot Alan Greenspan lowering interest rates during a bubble. Byron Dorgan actually called it in 1999. But the rest of the Senate was mostly clueless on what the impact would be.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2nZbo8SKbg
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/4/8/717702/-VIDEO-from-1999:-Byron-Dorgan-vs.-Gramm-Leach-BlileyWOW

    Here is who would have to be in on a conspiracy. Noam Chomsky is even amused by the Controlled Demo theory. I am a construction professional with Structural Engineering experience, and I can tell you the controlled demo theory is complete nonsense.
    http://www.debunking911.com/massivect.htm

    Silverstein is a slug, but he did not get $9 billion. He got about half that after major battles, and it will cost tons more to rebuild. No, I don’t pity Silverstein, but your facts are wrong. You are getting info from bloggers who were speculating how much he might get before all the court battles.

    And prior to 9/11 Insurance Policies did NOT exclude acts of terror, only War. This was NOT the act of a sovereign Nation, so it was not an Act of War. You are just plain misinformed on that one. Actually, after 9/11, Terrorism insurance was another excuse for Insurance companies to bump up rates. These links are very informative on that legal battle. Silverstein tried to say they were two different acts, the Insurance company fought him. There was a settlement. But the Insurance Companies would have loved to say it was an Act of War an not pay, but they had no Legal Case as this was NOT an Act of War legally.
    http://www.eapdlaw.com/files/News/e2e7169a-6910-43dc-a38c-be07e286975e/Presentation/NewsAttachment/f8fa5a5c-5bda-4f3b-99f9-c12614d59b71/media.318.pdf
    http://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/wtcinsuranceissues
    http://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/wtcinsuranceissues
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Silverstein

    Yes, the defense industry continues to make money, as do the banks. This in no way leads top “controlled demo”. In fact, Goldman Sach is involved in everything, and makes money on everything (including our economy tanking). You could make a conspiracy on every event in the world based on the fact that GS makes money?

    American Airlines was hurt by 9/11 actually. But there were “shady stock deals” by investors it appeare on United and AA stock. Why? Because it was pretty much common knowledge that those planes would be hijacked and flown into buildings. Michael Ruppert has said the WH was briefed on the exact nature of the attacks. Bush then went on….or should I say”continued” his vacation, and Cheney went into hiding.

    There was no controlled demo, and that was what I was addressing.

  • MrComments

    If you have no proof, you should not make statements, especially ones that are patently false.

  • Anonymous

    Always fun to chat with an operator still pushing the ole 9/11 official “proof” stuff. The problem with all your links is that there are links that debunk them, etc. etc. The truth isn’t on the web. I rely instead on real life experts like metallurgists and explosives experts, aviators and others to whom I have ready access. The fact is the official story isn’t merely implausible, it’s impossible. Period. Again, please keep believing anything you like. But you wouldn’t know something that is patently false from a sharp stick in the eye if your comments are any indication. Nothing I have written is patently false. There isn’t any point in spreading and clinging to lies. The truth is, there are a lot of very bad people in power and their agenda has nothing to do with protecting us and everything to do with protecting them from us. This is, always has been and will forever be true, as long as people permit themselves to be slaves.

    Peace.

  • Anonymous

    Always fun to chat with an operator still pushing the ole 9/11 official “proof” stuff. The problem with all your links is that there are links that debunk them, etc. etc. The truth isn’t on the web. I rely instead on real life experts like metallurgists and explosives experts, aviators and others to whom I have ready access. The fact is the official story isn’t merely implausible, it’s impossible. Period. Again, please keep believing anything you like. But you wouldn’t know something that is patently false from a sharp stick in the eye if your comments are any indication. Nothing I have written is patently false. There isn’t any point in spreading and clinging to lies. The truth is, there are a lot of very bad people in power and their agenda has nothing to do with protecting us and everything to do with protecting them from us. This is, always has been and will forever be true, as long as people permit themselves to be slaves.

    Peace.

  • Anonymous

    Always fun to chat with an operator still pushing the ole 9/11 official “proof” stuff. The problem with all your links is that there are links that debunk them, etc. etc. The truth isn’t on the web. I rely instead on real life experts like metallurgists and explosives experts, aviators and others to whom I have ready access. The fact is the official story isn’t merely implausible, it’s impossible. Period. Again, please keep believing anything you like. But you wouldn’t know something that is patently false from a sharp stick in the eye if your comments are any indication. Nothing I have written is patently false. There isn’t any point in spreading and clinging to lies. The truth is, there are a lot of very bad people in power and their agenda has nothing to do with protecting us and everything to do with protecting them from us. This is, always has been and will forever be true, as long as people permit themselves to be slaves.

    Peace.

  • MrComments

    Show me the links that debunk them, and specifically what is being debunked. You do not want to engage intelligent debate with me because I will make you look silly, and because you are not capable of it. Anyone can say “their are bad people in power who do bad things!!”. Gee, really? I didn’t know that……. That does not mean anything in this case.

    Also, back to Silverstein, it is rumored he was about to have (or had just had) a meeting on how a terror attack would impact his properties almost at the exact time of the attacks. Wouldn’t that be something to “hammer out” during the planing phase? Isn’t it more likely that he heard an attack was likely and as the Owner of said potentially targeted property wanted to know the legal and financial implications? Hell, Judith Miller, conservative friend of Scooter Libby, said in a documented interview that it was common knowledge that an attack was coming.

    And I have SHOWN you that things you have written were patently false. Just today your statement on Silverstein moneys collected was off by DOUBLE. Where do you read that? Let me guess…..a Blog. Wow. And you are denying all the Bldg 7 footage that shows fires, fireman saying the building would collapse soon? That is REALITY. You live in fantasy. It’s that simple.

  • MrComments

    Show me the links that debunk them, and specifically what is being debunked. You do not want to engage intelligent debate with me because I will make you look silly, and because you are not capable of it. Anyone can say “their are bad people in power who do bad things!!”. Gee, really? I didn’t know that……. That does not mean anything in this case.

    Also, back to Silverstein, it is rumored he was about to have (or had just had) a meeting on how a terror attack would impact his properties almost at the exact time of the attacks. Wouldn’t that be something to “hammer out” during the planing phase? Isn’t it more likely that he heard an attack was likely and as the Owner of said potentially targeted property wanted to know the legal and financial implications? Hell, Judith Miller, conservative friend of Scooter Libby, said in a documented interview that it was common knowledge that an attack was coming.

    And I have SHOWN you that things you have written were patently false. Just today your statement on Silverstein moneys collected was off by DOUBLE. Where do you read that? Let me guess…..a Blog. Wow. And you are denying all the Bldg 7 footage that shows fires, fireman saying the building would collapse soon? That is REALITY. You live in fantasy. It’s that simple.

  • MrComments

    Show me the links that debunk them, and specifically what is being debunked. You do not want to engage intelligent debate with me because I will make you look silly, and because you are not capable of it. Anyone can say “their are bad people in power who do bad things!!”. Gee, really? I didn’t know that……. That does not mean anything in this case.

    Also, back to Silverstein, it is rumored he was about to have (or had just had) a meeting on how a terror attack would impact his properties almost at the exact time of the attacks. Wouldn’t that be something to “hammer out” during the planing phase? Isn’t it more likely that he heard an attack was likely and as the Owner of said potentially targeted property wanted to know the legal and financial implications? Hell, Judith Miller, conservative friend of Scooter Libby, said in a documented interview that it was common knowledge that an attack was coming.

    And I have SHOWN you that things you have written were patently false. Just today your statement on Silverstein moneys collected was off by DOUBLE. Where do you read that? Let me guess…..a Blog. Wow. And you are denying all the Bldg 7 footage that shows fires, fireman saying the building would collapse soon? That is REALITY. You live in fantasy. It’s that simple.

  • MrComments

    You could just as easily say that the newly renovated area would NOT be a target, as they would have to pay to re-build it. So you are saying they were trying to “minimize” damage? How does that make sense? And the new area had all the new hi-tech equipment in it. They wanted to destroy that, but not an old area of the building with antiquated equipment? You are blabbering.

  • MrComments

    You could just as easily say that the newly renovated area would NOT be a target, as they would have to pay to re-build it. So you are saying they were trying to “minimize” damage? How does that make sense? And the new area had all the new hi-tech equipment in it. They wanted to destroy that, but not an old area of the building with antiquated equipment? You are blabbering.

  • MrComments

    You could just as easily say that the newly renovated area would NOT be a target, as they would have to pay to re-build it. So you are saying they were trying to “minimize” damage? How does that make sense? And the new area had all the new hi-tech equipment in it. They wanted to destroy that, but not an old area of the building with antiquated equipment? You are blabbering.

  • IvotedRight

    “I believe in the free enterprise system”? “He is the most intelligent, honest, and decent man we have had in the WH since Ike” Are you kidding with these two statements in the same person’s mind?
    Was he being fair when he negotiated the Chrysler and GM deals (threatening horrible hedge fund manager that dared owned preferred stock and bonds in favor of union workers)?
    Was he being fair when he took over the student loans hidden away in the health care bill?
    Was he being fair when he left the doctor fix out of the healthcare bill so it would appear fiscally responsible?
    Was he being intelligent when he sided with Chavez and supported a social dictator in Honduras who refused to leave office?
    Was he being intelligent when he immediately blamed the Sgt. Crowley before he had many facts?
    Yes, he is fighting the propoganda in the media like Glen Beck? How about the propaganda from the other side? Does he try to curtail that during his meetings with Jeffrey Immelt.
    You are a hack. You don’t believe in free enterprise. Someone that believe in free enterprise would have said…
    And stop talking about “anti-capitalist”. I believe in the free enterprise system. That’s not what is going on. When government gets infiltrated by business (since Woodrow Wilson that has happened), things get progressively worse for working people. Monopolies are not bad but monopolies created by the government are not “free enterprise”. Our disparity of wealth (1% control 50% of the wealth) is on par with many dictatorships. Obama wants everyone to play fair on the right while he rams through more legislation that will drag the middle class down and pick and choose the winners. He’ll tell you he is the most intelligent, honest, and decent man we have had in the WH since Ike but he is just an ideologue. He should be fighting both “sponsored” parties as best he can, as well as the Lobbyist propaganda in the media (Glen Beck and Keith Olberman,etc). So lose your 16 year old mentality or liberal biased “education” and start supporting someone that will actually put people in control of their own success or failure by limiting the government.

  • guest

    it seems that there is a plan to reduce the oil capacity – therefore they manipulated the oil-platform for this crash
    These guys are without any responsibility – for anybody, the nature, the (wild)life – our future and of this planet ( exactly the same as our politicians ) as well as for our children
    Why don´t get together the world population and torture these few guys so nobody will try the same again ?

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  • Johnny Dingo

    They are all controlled by their puppet masters..who are the same people.. the same ones who control the media.. Do you really think you have a choice in who you vote for.. Those clowns are put there by the puppet masters, thats why they have the same policies.. Doesn’t matter Dem or Rep.. no difference…….The BP oil spill is all about CAP and Trade…since global warming went out the window…

  • Johnny Dingo

    Elizabeth read the Quran vrs 9-29, over 100 vers in their about killing Christians and Jews.. Big difference.. http://www.answering-islam.org.. educate yourself…

  • sutherngirl

    Well said.

  • Johnny Dingo

    He was also head of the CFR… that’s who really runs the gov.. do some research.. Bilderburg meeting is taking place in Spain right now.. what will CFR’s marching orders be? Our gov is completly out of control and there is a reason.. Global government Market munipulations etc.. Euro.. Amero.. One world money system ran by the IMF.. who is the worlds Federal Reserve System, which is a private enterprise.. nothing government about it We need to Vote all the clowns out Dem or Republic to take the country back from the Traitors who are taking our economy down to a banna republic.

  • Derrick Smithers

    MrComments – I must redirect the line of inquiry into Obama’s motives. Let’s consider lifting this thing above the so-called “left/right” propaganda and stare directly into Obama. No blinking or they’ll get ya.

    I’m no fancy law talkin’ guy, but didn’t Obama sign his first Pres. Signing Statement on the eve of his inauguration? Oh yeah, I just checked whitehouse.gov and it shows he signed on Jan. 21. That would be it. Something about Presidential records being sealed or something. That’s nothing to be worried about.

    Now, as I understand it he went to Columbia U. Isn’t that where “they” cull a few candidates each year? He probably wasn’t lucky enough to get the tap on the shoulder from David Roc. himself. He does seem pretty good at the neuro-linguistic stuff though. It’s like he’s a wizz at it. Amazing to watch the hand come out and the people snap into it quickly.

    But, I could swear that in reading his book he wrote about his first job out of College. I think he referred to it as “a multi-national consultancy firm”. Uh ohhhhh….I just checked and it was Business International Corporation.

    Well, there it is. He’s CIA. No doubt. Ahhhh. Now I can get something to eat and feel better that I did some research and didn’t bother listening to the spin. While others make base-less assumptions that he’s a great guy, I can be safe in knowing that he is almost certainly not. Unless?….is he just trying to save us from the NWO from the inside?….Nahhh. Good luck smarties.

  • Derrick Smithers

    MrComments – I must redirect the line of inquiry into Obama’s motives. Let’s consider lifting this thing above the so-called “left/right” propaganda and stare directly into Obama. No blinking or they’ll get ya.

    I’m no fancy law talkin’ guy, but didn’t Obama sign his first Pres. Signing Statement on the eve of his inauguration? Oh yeah, I just checked whitehouse.gov and it shows he signed on Jan. 21. That would be it. Something about Presidential records being sealed or something. That’s nothing to be worried about.

    Now, as I understand it he went to Columbia U. Isn’t that where “they” cull a few candidates each year? He probably wasn’t lucky enough to get the tap on the shoulder from David Roc. himself. He does seem pretty good at the neuro-linguistic stuff though. It’s like he’s a wizz at it. Amazing to watch the hand come out and the people snap into it quickly.

    But, I could swear that in reading his book he wrote about his first job out of College. I think he referred to it as “a multi-national consultancy firm”. Uh ohhhhh….I just checked and it was Business International Corporation.

    Well, there it is. He’s CIA. No doubt. Ahhhh. Now I can get something to eat and feel better that I did some research and didn’t bother listening to the spin. While others make base-less assumptions that he’s a great guy, I can be safe in knowing that he is almost certainly not. Unless?….is he just trying to save us from the NWO from the inside?….Nahhh. Good luck smarties.

  • Derrick Smithers

    McComments – What does this have to do with Usama Bin Laden dying in Dec. 2001 of kidney failure in an American hospital in Dubai with Army Intel and CIA friends at his bedside?

    And, I don’t get how this relates to the fact that Dov Zacheim was CEO of System Planning Corp. leading up to 9/11 and their “special” project was dubbed the “Flight Termination System” or how the planes had dual flight #s that all converged in the Tucson area which is home to Pinal Airpark and Evergreen Air, where they keep all the “special” airliners for cargo and fire fighting? Oh, did I mention that the planes there are painted up to look like commercial passenger birds?

    Watch the videos again, and again, and then again. Don’t stop buddy. You should see them again. And again. Took me 6 or 7 years before I saw them. The flashes. The explosions. The crater in B6. The over-flights. The shadow planes. It’s really neat how they did it though. Gotta hand it to them.

    Plus, we shouldn’t speak so openly of the fact that a couple “hijackers” we’re cousins of the flight instructor who taught at that Naval Air Station (can’t remember the name??) and were known to be living on base. That’s right, behind the guard shack. They really tricked us, didn’t they! DIDN’T THEY!!!

    Starting to get how little you know? Then why are you taking the money for this???? Don’t you consider the future and how you’re going to have to reconcile your statements? Stand down, please. Don’t be concerned with safety issues. A little bird told me that the reveal will not be conducive to persecution of those involved in the whisper campaign. Something like 10,000 of your kind are already powering down. The movement is peaceful.

  • Derrick Smithers

    McComments – What does this have to do with Usama Bin Laden dying in Dec. 2001 of kidney failure in an American hospital in Dubai with Army Intel and CIA friends at his bedside?

    And, I don’t get how this relates to the fact that Dov Zacheim was CEO of System Planning Corp. leading up to 9/11 and their “special” project was dubbed the “Flight Termination System” or how the planes had dual flight #s that all converged in the Tucson area which is home to Pinal Airpark and Evergreen Air, where they keep all the “special” airliners for cargo and fire fighting? Oh, did I mention that the planes there are painted up to look like commercial passenger birds?

    Watch the videos again, and again, and then again. Don’t stop buddy. You should see them again. And again. Took me 6 or 7 years before I saw them. The flashes. The explosions. The crater in B6. The over-flights. The shadow planes. It’s really neat how they did it though. Gotta hand it to them.

    Plus, we shouldn’t speak so openly of the fact that a couple “hijackers” we’re cousins of the flight instructor who taught at that Naval Air Station (can’t remember the name??) and were known to be living on base. That’s right, behind the guard shack. They really tricked us, didn’t they! DIDN’T THEY!!!

    Starting to get how little you know? Then why are you taking the money for this???? Don’t you consider the future and how you’re going to have to reconcile your statements? Stand down, please. Don’t be concerned with safety issues. A little bird told me that the reveal will not be conducive to persecution of those involved in the whisper campaign. Something like 10,000 of your kind are already powering down. The movement is peaceful.

  • teef27

    Amen Don’t need to read anymore comments after this one. Wish everyone would stop and think about what you said before they rush to judgement, You are a wise man not a fool like most of the politicians and those out here that bite the bait!!!!

  • teef27

    Amen Don’t need to read anymore comments after this one. Wish everyone would stop and think about what you said before they rush to judgement, You are a wise man not a fool like most of the politicians and those out here that bite the bait!!!!

  • s.hagen

    1.

  • MrComments

    Most of that is covered here. Including the PNAC and Dov. I am well aware of everything you say. This is the REAL conspiracy that “controlled demo” nut jobs prevent from being investigated with their idiotic theories born in comic books.
    http://www.debunking911.com/conspiracy.htm

    But also covered at the same site are things completely debunking the controlled demo theory. It was a bright and sunny day. The buildings were mostly glass. Any flashing was the aluminum reflecting in the glass. The squibs were pressure. from an airtight building. Explosions were transformers, HVAC equipment, etc. The “molten metal” was just the batteries from the UPS system. This has all been thoroughly analyzed. ANY theory on controlled demo has been completely debunked. My emails have addressed the controlled demo theory, and no one has shown me anything refuting that. Including you.

    And the planning that would have to go in to such a thing is beyond comprehension, and makes no sense. It would have been easier to just hijack 5 or 6 planes and “remote control” them into the buildings. That would have been a piece of cake, and would have been more spectacular (from the standpoint of shocking Americans) than just 2 planes. Why the hell go through the most elaborate plan in history where if just ONE thing goes wrong you are “toast”. Just the idea of planting explosives is asinine. There are maintenance people CONSTANTLY in and out of shafts and ceilings in that building. Only ONE person finding something could blow the whole thing. Why take that chance. It makes ZERO sense from a logistic point of view. With all the electronics in that building, just trying to remote control a device could go wrong. The Pentagon is notorious for bungling things. Most bombs do not even hit their target. It is completely delusional to think that could be done. The remotes would have to be done with milliseconds of accuracy to prevent an accidental explosion too far down the pancaking. IT IS ABSURD to think that human error would not be accounted for…..and could not happen.

    Sorry, but you are just plain wrong on the controlled demo theory. The PNAC is another issue. I think they looked the other way, or perhaps financed things. But planes were crashed into buildings, and fires brought down the Buildings. Just the notion that they “planned” for the antenna on top of the Tower and some other debris to come down on Bldg 7 would be IMPOSSIBLE. So then how would they “blow up” Bldg 7……if it was not damaged. PLEASE EXPLAIN THAT????

    Oh, and bin Laden was in a hospital before 9/11 under suspicious circumstances too. I don’t see how that is relevant to “controlled demo” stupidity.

    I know a lot more than you do. But more importantly, I have common sense.

  • anon

    BP is collecting some of the oil (money) spewing out. How will they spend their precious money in a world that has been destroyed? Destroyed oceans = destroyed world.

    Same as corporations chasing the next 3rd world country for cheap labor. Hmm … after they fire those making a living wage, who can afford to buy the corporation's products?

    Poor planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part. By the way, one indication of a psychopath is poor planning. Who, or what, is in charge? Could it be psychopaths?

    Last thought. 1st commandment is “Thou shalt not worship false idols before GOD.” Why is the world worshipping money? Money is a tool like any other tool. Money is not GOD.

  • Realist

    ‘Obama is doin’ a good job’ yes 10% unemployment nationwide and doing nothing to even resemble stimulating employment, stepping in not @ all to stop the damn spill, and steadily marching the USA into becoming totally dependant on the Fed. Gov. The only fighting going on is between Hussain and George Soros on when he can pronounce himself King. You sir, are in fact unqualified to judge whether he is doing a good job!

  • Realist

    ‘Obama is doin’ a good job’ yes 10% unemployment nationwide and doing nothing to even resemble stimulating employment, stepping in not @ all to stop the damn spill, and steadily marching the USA into becoming totally dependant on the Fed. Gov. The only fighting going on is between Hussain and George Soros on when he can pronounce himself King. You sir, are in fact unqualified to judge whether he is doing a good job!

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  • Louis Connelly

    This makes no sense at all.

    Do people think that Goldman somehow knew about the imminent freak accident?? No that makes no sense. Wachovia and UBS sold almost all of their BP stocks, why don't people think they knew about it?

    Also if Goldman knew something everyone else didn't why didn't they sell all their shares. People should consider the decisions that Goldman makes that end up being the wrong decisions where they could have made more money holding on to their assets as well.

    It is an investment bank, a huge one, and it constantly is moving around money. The market as a whole hasn't been doing well these months, and it went down a lot with the Greece thing. Goldman got somewhat lucky because they sold some of their stock, but they were unlucky they held on to more than half of it.

    As for all these events that seem to have lead to the Oil spill, they are not a series of conspiracy related decisions, rather they are a lot of small events that ended up leading to an accident. Thats how it always is. It takes a lot of things going wrong all at the same time for something like this to happen, and Oil spills don't happen that often. Think about how much Oil BP got and is still getting now without an accident.

    Instead of blaming everyone, why don't you guys try to resolve yourself to be more energy efficient (you know ride your bike to work, and turn off the hot water while you are brushing your teeth) and maybe deep sea drilling will become more obsolete.

  • Socco_puppetski

    If you know what IMMUNITY of Sura Nine, to which everything else in the Koran abrogates to, then you know:

    1 – The god of Islam is pleased when the Muslim deceives the Non-Muslim.
    2 – The god of Islam is pleased when the Muslim steals from the Non-Muslim.
    3 – The god of Islam is pleased when the Muslim enslaves the Non-Muslim.
    4 – The god of Islam is pleased when the Muslim kills the Non-Muslim.

    SURA NINE – THE IMMUNITY
    [9.1] (This is a declaration of) immunity by Allah and His Apostle towards those of the idolaters with whom you made an agreement.
    [9.2] So go about in the land for four months and know that you cannot weaken Allah and that Allah will bring disgrace to the unbelievers.
    [9.3] And an announcement from Allah and His Apostle to the people on the day of the greater pilgrimage that Allah and His Apostle are free from liability to the idolaters; therefore if you repent, it will be better for you, and if you turn back, then know that you will not weaken Allah; and announce painful punishment to those who disbelieve.
    [9.4] Except those of the idolaters with whom you made an agreement, then they have not failed you in anything and have not backed up any one against you, so fulfill their agreement to the end of their term; surely Allah loves those who are careful (of their duty).
    [9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
    [9.6] And if one of the idolaters seek protection from you, grant him protection till he hears the word of Allah, then make him attain his place of safety; this is because they are a people who do not know.
    [9.7] How can there be an agreement for the idolaters with Allah and with His Apostle; except those with whom you made an agreement at the Sapcred Mosque? So as long as they are true to you, be true to them; surely Allah loves those who are careful (of their duty).
    [9.8] How (can it be)! while if they prevail against you, they would not pay regard in your case to ties of relationship, nor those of covenant; they please you with their mouths while their hearts do not consent; and most of them are transgressors.
    [9.9] They have taken a small price for the communications of Allah, so they turn away from His way; surely evil is it that they do.
    [9.10] They do not pay regard to ties of relationship nor those of covenant in the case of a believer; and these are they who go beyond the limits.
    [9.11] But if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, they are your brethren in faith; and We make the communications clear for a people who know.
    [9.12] And if they break their oaths after their agreement and (openly) revile your religion, then fight the leaders of unbelief– surely their oaths are nothing– so that they may desist.
    [9.13] What! will you not fight a people who broke their oaths and aimed at the expulsion of the Apostle, and they attacked you first; do you fear them? But Allah is most deserving that you should fear Him, if you are believers.
    [9.14] Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace, and assist you against them and heal the hearts of a believing people.
    [9.15] And remove the rage of their hearts; and Allah turns (mercifully) to whom He pleases, and Allah is Knowing, Wise.
    [9.16] What! do you think that you will be left alone while Allah has not yet known those of you who have struggled hard and have not taken any one as an adherent besides Allah and His Apostle and the believers; and Allah is aware of what you do.
    [9.17] The idolaters have no right to visit the mosques of Allah while bearing witness to unbelief against themselves, these it is whose doings are null, and in the fire shall they abide.
    [9.18] Only he shall visit the mosques of Allah who believes in Allah and the latter day, and keeps up prayer and pays the poor-rate and fears none but Allah; so (as for) these, it may be that they are of the followers of the right course.
    [9.19] What! do you make (one who undertakes) the giving of drink to the pilgrims and the guarding of the Sacred Mosque like him who believes in Allah and the latter day and strives hard in Allah’s way? They are not equal with Allah; and Allah does not guide the unjust people.
    [9.20] Those who believed and fled (their homes), and strove hard in Allah’s way with their property and their souls, are much higher in rank with Allah; and those are they who are the achievers (of their objects).
    [9.21] Their Lord gives them good news of mercy from Himself and (His) good pleasure and gardens, wherein lasting blessings shall be theirs;
    [9.22] Abiding therein for ever; surely Allah has a Mighty reward with Him.
    [9.23] O you who believe! do not take your fathers and your brothers for guardians if they love unbelief more than belief; and whoever of you takes them for a guardian, these it is that are the unjust.
    [9.24] Say: If your fathers and your sons and your brethren and your mates and your kinsfolk and property which you have acquired, and the slackness of trade which you fear and dwellings which you like, are dearer to you than Allah and His Apostle and striving in His way, then wait till Allah brings about His command: and Allah does not guide the transgressing people.
    [9.25] Certainly Allah helped you in many battlefields and on the day of Hunain, when your great numbers made you vain, but they availed you nothing and the earth became strait to you notwithstanding its spaciousness, then you turned back retreating.
    [9.26] Then Allah sent down His tranquillity upon His Apostle and upon the believers, and sent down hosts which you did not see, and chastised those who disbelieved, and that is the reward of the unbelievers.
    [9.27] Then will Allah after this turn (mercifully) to whom He pleases, and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
    [9.28] O you who believe! the idolaters are nothing but unclean, so they shall not approach the Sacred Mosque after this year; and if you fear poverty then Allah will enrich you out of His grace if He please; surely Allah is Knowing Wise.
    [9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.
    [9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!
    [9.31] They have taken their doctors of law and their monks for lords besides Allah, and (also) the Messiah son of Marium and they were enjoined that they should serve one God only, there is no god but He; far from His glory be what they set up (with Him).
    [9.32] They desire to put out the light of Allah with their mouths, and Allah will not consent save to perfect His light, though the unbelievers are averse.
    [9.33] He it is Who sent His Apostle with guidance and the religion of truth, that He might cause it to prevail over all religions, though the polytheists may be averse.
    [9.34] O you who believe! most surely many of the doctors of law and the monks eat away the property of men falsely, and turn (them) from Allah’s way; and (as for) those who hoard up gold and silver and do not spend it in Allah’s way, announce to them a painful chastisement,
    [9.35] On the day when it shall be heated in the fire of hell, then their foreheads and their sides and their backs shall be branded with it; this is what you hoarded up for yourselves, therefore taste what you hoarded.
    [9.36] Surely the number of months with Allah is twelve months in Allah’s ordinance since the day when He created the heavens and the earth, of these four being sacred; that is the right reckoning; therefore be not unjust to yourselves regarding them, and fight the polytheists all together as they fight you all together; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).
    [9.37] Postponing (of the sacred month) is only an addition in unbelief, wherewith those who disbelieve are led astray, violating it one year and keeping it sacred another, that they may agree in the number (of months) that Allah has made sacred, and thus violate what Allah has made sacred; the evil of their doings is made fairseeming to them; and Allah does not guide the unbelieving people.
    [9.38] O you who believe! What (excuse) have you that when it is said to you: Go forth in Allah’s way, you should incline heavily to earth; are you contented with this world’s life instead of the hereafter? But the provision of this world’s life compared with the hereafter is but little.
    [9.39] If you do not go forth, He will chastise you with a painful chastisement and bring in your place a people other than you, and you will do Him no harm; and Allah has power over all things.
    [9.40] If you will not aid him, Allah certainly aided him when those who disbelieved expelled him, he being the second of the two, when they were both in the cave, when he said to his companion: Grieve not, surely Allah is with us. So Allah sent down His tranquillity upon him and strengthened him with hosts which you did not see, and made lowest the word of those who disbelieved; and the word of Allah, that is the highest; and Allah is Mighty, Wise.
    [9.41] Go forth light and heavy, and strive hard in Allah’s way with your property and your persons; this is better for you, if you know.
    [9.42] Had it been a near advantage and a short journey, they would certainly have followed you, but the tedious journey was too long for them; and they swear by Allah: If we had been able, we would certainly have gone forth with you; they cause their own souls to perish, and Allah knows that they are most surely
    [9.43] Allah pardon you! Why did you give them leave until those who spoke the truth had become manifest to you and you had known the liars?
    [9.44] They do not ask leave of you who believe in Allah and the latter day (to stay away) from striving hard with their property and their persons, and Allah knows those who guard (against evil).
    [9.45] They only ask leave of you who do not believe in Allah and the latter day and their hearts are in doubt, so in their doubt do they waver.
    [9.46] And if they had intended to go forth, they would certainly have provided equipment for it, but Allah did not like their going forth, so He withheld them, and it was said (to them): Hold back with those who hold back.
    [9.47] Had they gone forth with you, they would not have added to you aught save corruption, and they would certainly have hurried about among you seeking (to sow) dissension among you, and among you there are those who hearken for their sake; and Allah knows the unjust.
    [9.48] Certainly they sought (to sow) dissension before, and they meditated plots against you until the truth came, and Allah’s commandment prevailed although they were averse (from it).
    [9.49] And among them there is he who says: Allow me and do not try me. Surely into trial have they already tumbled down, and most surely hell encompasses the unbelievers.
    [9.50] If good befalls you, it grieves them, and if hardship afflicts you, they say: Indeed we had taken care of our affair before; and they turn back and are glad.
    [9.51] Say: Nothing will afflict us save what Allah has ordained for us; He is our.Patron; and on Allah let the believers rely.
    [9.52] Say: Do you await for us but one of two most excellent things? And we await for you that Allah will afflict you with punishment from Himself or by our hands. So wait; we too will wait with you.
    [9.53] Say: Spend willingly or unwillingly, it shall not be accepted from you; surely you are a transgressing people.
    [9.54] And nothing hinders their spendings being accepted from them, except that they disbelieve in Allah and in His Apostle and they do not come to prayer but while they are sluggish, and they do not spend but while they are unwilling.
    [9.55] Let not then their property and their children excite your admiration; Allah only wishes to chastise them with these in this world’s life and (that) their souls may depart while they are unbelievers.
    [9.56] And they swear by Allah that they are most surely of you, and they are not of you, but they are a people who are afraid (of you).
    [9.57] If they could find a refuge or cave or a place to enter into, they would certainly have turned thereto, running away in all haste.
    [9.58] And of them there are those who blame you with respect to the alms; so if they are given from it they are pleased, and if they are not given from it, lo! they are full of rage.
    [9.59] And if they were content with what Allah and His Apostle gave them, and had said: Allah is sufficient for us; Allah will soon give us (more) out of His grace and His Apostle too; surely to Allah do we make our petition.
    [9.60] Alms are only for the poor and the needy, and the officials (appointed) over them, and those whose hearts are made to incline (to truth) and the (ransoming of) captives and those in debts and in the way of Allah and the wayfarer; an ordinance from Allah; and Allah is knowing, Wise.
    [9.61] And there are some of them who molest the Prophet and say: He is one who believes every thing that he hears; say: A hearer of good for you (who) believes in Allah and believes the faithful and a mercy for those of you who believe; and (as for) those who molest the Apostle of Allah, they shall have a painful punishment.
    [9.62] They swear to you by Allah that they might please you and, Allah, as well as His Apostle, has a greater right that they should please Him, if they are believers.
    [9.63] Do they not know that whoever acts in opposition to Allah and His Apostle, he shall surely have the fire of hell to abide in it? That is the grievous abasement.
    [9.64] The hypocrites fear lest a chapter should be sent down to them telling them plainly of what is in their hearts. Say: Go on mocking, surely Allah will bring forth what you fear.
    [9.65] And if you should question them, they would certainly say: We were only idly discoursing and sporting. Say: Was it at Allah and His communications and His Apostle that you mocked?
    [9.66] Do not make excuses; you have denied indeed after you had believed; if We pardon a party of you, We will chastise (another) party because they are guilty.
    [9.67] The hypocritical men and the hypocritical women are all alike; they enjoin evil and forbid good and withhold their hands; they have forsaken Allah, so He has forsaken them; surely the hypocrites are the transgressors.
    [9.68] Allah has promised the hypocritical men and the hypocritical women and the unbelievers the fire of hell to abide therein; it is enough for them; and Allah has cursed them and they shall have lasting punishment.
    [9.69] Like those before you; they were stronger than you in power and more abundant in wealth and children, so they enjoyed their portion; thus have you enjoyed your portion as those before you enjoyed their portion; and you entered into vain discourses like the vain discourses in which entered those before you. These are they whose works are null in this world and the hereafter, and these are they who are the losers.
    [9.70] Has not the news of those before them come to them; of the people of Nuh and Ad and Samood, and the people of Ibrahim and the dwellers of Madyan and the overthrown cities; their apostles came to them with clear arguments; so it was not Allah Who should do them injustice, but they were unjust to themselves.
    [9.71] And (as for) the believing men and the believing women, they are guardians of each other; they enjoin good and forbid evil and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, and obey Allah and His Apostle; (as for) these, Allah will show mercy to them; surely Allah is Mighty, Wise.
    [9.72] Allah has promised to the believing men and the believing women gardens, beneath which rivers flow, to abide in them, and goodly dwellings in gardens of perpetual abode; and best of all is Allah’s goodly pleasure; that is the grand achievement.
    [9.73] O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination.
    [9.74] They swear by Allah that they did not speak, and certainly they did speak, the word of unbelief, and disbelieved after their Islam, and they had determined upon what they have not been able to effect, and they did not find fault except because Allah and His Apostle enriched them out of His grace; therefore if they repent, it will be good for them; and if they turn back, Allah will chastise them with a painful chastisement in this world and the hereafter, and they shall not have in the land any guardian or a helper.
    [9.75] And there are those of them who made a covenant with Allah: If He give us out of His grace, we will certainly give alms and we will certainly be of the good.
    [9.76] But when He gave them out of His grace, they became niggardly of it and they turned back and they withdrew.
    [9.77] So He made hypocrisy to follow as a consequence into their hearts till the day when they shall meet Him because they failed to perform towards Allah what they had promised with Him and because they told lies.
    [9.78] Do they not know that Allah knows their hidden thoughts and their secret counsels, and that Allah is the great Knower of the unseen things?
    [9.79] They who taunt those of the faithful who give their alms freely, and those who give to the extent of their earnings and scoff at them; Allah will pay them back their scoffing, and they shall have a painful chastisement.
    [9.80] Ask forgiveness for them or do not ask forgiveness for them; even if you ask forgiveness for them seventy times, Allah will not forgive them; this is because they disbelieve in Allah and His Apostle, and Allah does not guide the transgressing people.
    [9.81] Those who were left behind were glad on account of their sitting behind Allah’s Apostle and they were averse from striving m Allah’s way with their property and their persons, and said: Do not go forth in the heat. Say: The fire of hell is much severe in heat. Would that they understood (it).
    [9.82] Therefore they shall laugh little and weep much as a recompense for what they earned.
    [9.83] Therefore if Allah brings you back to a party of them and then they ask your permission to go forth, say: By no means shall you ever go forth with me and by no means shall you fight an enemy with me; surely you chose to sit the first time, therefore sit (now) with those who remain behind.
    [9.84] And never offer prayer for any one of them who dies and do not stand by his grave; surely they disbelieve in Allah and His Apostle and they shall die in transgression.
    [9.85] And let not their property and their children excite your admlration; Allah only wishes to chastise them with these in this world and (that) their souls may depart while they are unbelievers
    [9.86] And whenever a chapter is revealed, saying: Believe in Allah and strive hard along with His Apostle, those having ampleness of means ask permission of you and say: Leave us (behind), that we may be with those who sit.
    [9.87] They preferred to be with those who remained behind, and a seal is set on their hearts so they do not understand.
    [9.88] But the Apostle and those who believe with him strive hard with their property and their persons; and these it is who shall have the good things and these it is who shall be successful.
    [9.89] Allah has prepared for them gardens beneath which rivers flow, to abide in them; that is the great achievement. And the defaulters from among the dwellers of the desert came that permission may be given to them and they sat (at home) who lied to Allah and His Apostle; a painful chastisement shall afflict those of them who disbelieved.
    [9.91] It shall be no crime in the weak, nor in the sick, nor in those who do not find what they should spend (to stay behind), so long as they are sincere to Allah and His Apostle; there is no way (to blame) against the doers of good; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful;
    [9.92] Nor in those who when they came to you that you might carry them, you said: I cannot find that on which to carry you; they went back while their eyes overflowed with tears on account of grief for not finding that which they should spend.
    [9.93] The way (to blame) is only against those who ask permission of you though they are rich; they have chosen to be with those who remained behind, and Allah has set a seal upon their hearts so they do not know.
    [9.94] They will excuse themselves to you when you go back to them. Say: Urge no excuse, by no means will we believe you; indeed Allah has informed us of matters relating to you; and now Allah and His Apostle will see your doings, then you shall be brought back to the Knower of the unseen and the seen, then He will inform you of what you did.
    [9.95] They will swear to you by Allah when you return to them so that you may turn aside from them; so do turn aside from them; surely they are unclean and their abode is hell; a recompense for what they earned.
    [9.96] They will swear to you that you may be pleased with them; but if you are pleased with them, yet surely Allah is not pleased with the transgressing people.
    [9.97] The dwellers of the desert are very hard in unbelief and hypocrisy, and more disposed not to know the limits of what Allah has revealed to His Apostle; and Allah is Knowing, Wise.
    [9.98] And of the dwellers of the desert are those who take what they spend to be a fine, and they wait (the befalling of) calamities to you; on them (will be) the evil calamity; and Allah is Hearing, Knowing.
    [9.99] And of the dwellers of the desert are those who believe in Allah and the latter day and take what they spend to be (means of) the nearness of Allah and the Apostle’s prayers; surely it shall be means of nearness for them; Allah will make them enter into His mercy; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
    [9.100] And (as for) the foremost, the first of the Muhajirs and the Ansars, and those who followed them in goodness, Allah is well pleased with them and they are well pleased with Him, and He has prepared for them gardens beneath which rivers flOw, to abide in them for ever; that is the mighty achievement.
    [9.101] And from among those who are round about you of the dwellers of the desert there are hypocrites, and from among the people of Medina (also); they are stubborn in hypocrisy; you do not know them; We know them; We will chastise them twice then shall they be turned back to a grievous chastisement

    I think it is you who needs to get educated on the fundamental differences between Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Remember Daniel Pearl?

  • Socco_puppetski

    If you know what IMMUNITY of Sura Nine, to which everything else in the Koran abrogates to, then you know:

    1 – The god of Islam is pleased when the Muslim deceives the Non-Muslim.
    2 – The god of Islam is pleased when the Muslim steals from the Non-Muslim.
    3 – The god of Islam is pleased when the Muslim enslaves the Non-Muslim.
    4 – The god of Islam is pleased when the Muslim kills the Non-Muslim.

    SURA NINE – THE IMMUNITY
    [9.1] (This is a declaration of) immunity by Allah and His Apostle towards those of the idolaters with whom you made an agreement.
    [9.2] So go about in the land for four months and know that you cannot weaken Allah and that Allah will bring disgrace to the unbelievers.
    [9.3] And an announcement from Allah and His Apostle to the people on the day of the greater pilgrimage that Allah and His Apostle are free from liability to the idolaters; therefore if you repent, it will be better for you, and if you turn back, then know that you will not weaken Allah; and announce painful punishment to those who disbelieve.
    [9.4] Except those of the idolaters with whom you made an agreement, then they have not failed you in anything and have not backed up any one against you, so fulfill their agreement to the end of their term; surely Allah loves those who are careful (of their duty).
    [9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
    [9.6] And if one of the idolaters seek protection from you, grant him protection till he hears the word of Allah, then make him attain his place of safety; this is because they are a people who do not know.
    [9.7] How can there be an agreement for the idolaters with Allah and with His Apostle; except those with whom you made an agreement at the Sapcred Mosque? So as long as they are true to you, be true to them; surely Allah loves those who are careful (of their duty).
    [9.8] How (can it be)! while if they prevail against you, they would not pay regard in your case to ties of relationship, nor those of covenant; they please you with their mouths while their hearts do not consent; and most of them are transgressors.
    [9.9] They have taken a small price for the communications of Allah, so they turn away from His way; surely evil is it that they do.
    [9.10] They do not pay regard to ties of relationship nor those of covenant in the case of a believer; and these are they who go beyond the limits.
    [9.11] But if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, they are your brethren in faith; and We make the communications clear for a people who know.
    [9.12] And if they break their oaths after their agreement and (openly) revile your religion, then fight the leaders of unbelief– surely their oaths are nothing– so that they may desist.
    [9.13] What! will you not fight a people who broke their oaths and aimed at the expulsion of the Apostle, and they attacked you first; do you fear them? But Allah is most deserving that you should fear Him, if you are believers.
    [9.14] Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace, and assist you against them and heal the hearts of a believing people.
    [9.15] And remove the rage of their hearts; and Allah turns (mercifully) to whom He pleases, and Allah is Knowing, Wise.
    [9.16] What! do you think that you will be left alone while Allah has not yet known those of you who have struggled hard and have not taken any one as an adherent besides Allah and His Apostle and the believers; and Allah is aware of what you do.
    [9.17] The idolaters have no right to visit the mosques of Allah while bearing witness to unbelief against themselves, these it is whose doings are null, and in the fire shall they abide.
    [9.18] Only he shall visit the mosques of Allah who believes in Allah and the latter day, and keeps up prayer and pays the poor-rate and fears none but Allah; so (as for) these, it may be that they are of the followers of the right course.
    [9.19] What! do you make (one who undertakes) the giving of drink to the pilgrims and the guarding of the Sacred Mosque like him who believes in Allah and the latter day and strives hard in Allah’s way? They are not equal with Allah; and Allah does not guide the unjust people.
    [9.20] Those who believed and fled (their homes), and strove hard in Allah’s way with their property and their souls, are much higher in rank with Allah; and those are they who are the achievers (of their objects).
    [9.21] Their Lord gives them good news of mercy from Himself and (His) good pleasure and gardens, wherein lasting blessings shall be theirs;
    [9.22] Abiding therein for ever; surely Allah has a Mighty reward with Him.
    [9.23] O you who believe! do not take your fathers and your brothers for guardians if they love unbelief more than belief; and whoever of you takes them for a guardian, these it is that are the unjust.
    [9.24] Say: If your fathers and your sons and your brethren and your mates and your kinsfolk and property which you have acquired, and the slackness of trade which you fear and dwellings which you like, are dearer to you than Allah and His Apostle and striving in His way, then wait till Allah brings about His command: and Allah does not guide the transgressing people.
    [9.25] Certainly Allah helped you in many battlefields and on the day of Hunain, when your great numbers made you vain, but they availed you nothing and the earth became strait to you notwithstanding its spaciousness, then you turned back retreating.
    [9.26] Then Allah sent down His tranquillity upon His Apostle and upon the believers, and sent down hosts which you did not see, and chastised those who disbelieved, and that is the reward of the unbelievers.
    [9.27] Then will Allah after this turn (mercifully) to whom He pleases, and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
    [9.28] O you who believe! the idolaters are nothing but unclean, so they shall not approach the Sacred Mosque after this year; and if you fear poverty then Allah will enrich you out of His grace if He please; surely Allah is Knowing Wise.
    [9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.
    [9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!
    [9.31] They have taken their doctors of law and their monks for lords besides Allah, and (also) the Messiah son of Marium and they were enjoined that they should serve one God only, there is no god but He; far from His glory be what they set up (with Him).
    [9.32] They desire to put out the light of Allah with their mouths, and Allah will not consent save to perfect His light, though the unbelievers are averse.
    [9.33] He it is Who sent His Apostle with guidance and the religion of truth, that He might cause it to prevail over all religions, though the polytheists may be averse.
    [9.34] O you who believe! most surely many of the doctors of law and the monks eat away the property of men falsely, and turn (them) from Allah’s way; and (as for) those who hoard up gold and silver and do not spend it in Allah’s way, announce to them a painful chastisement,
    [9.35] On the day when it shall be heated in the fire of hell, then their foreheads and their sides and their backs shall be branded with it; this is what you hoarded up for yourselves, therefore taste what you hoarded.
    [9.36] Surely the number of months with Allah is twelve months in Allah’s ordinance since the day when He created the heavens and the earth, of these four being sacred; that is the right reckoning; therefore be not unjust to yourselves regarding them, and fight the polytheists all together as they fight you all together; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).
    [9.37] Postponing (of the sacred month) is only an addition in unbelief, wherewith those who disbelieve are led astray, violating it one year and keeping it sacred another, that they may agree in the number (of months) that Allah has made sacred, and thus violate what Allah has made sacred; the evil of their doings is made fairseeming to them; and Allah does not guide the unbelieving people.
    [9.38] O you who believe! What (excuse) have you that when it is said to you: Go forth in Allah’s way, you should incline heavily to earth; are you contented with this world’s life instead of the hereafter? But the provision of this world’s life compared with the hereafter is but little.
    [9.39] If you do not go forth, He will chastise you with a painful chastisement and bring in your place a people other than you, and you will do Him no harm; and Allah has power over all things.
    [9.40] If you will not aid him, Allah certainly aided him when those who disbelieved expelled him, he being the second of the two, when they were both in the cave, when he said to his companion: Grieve not, surely Allah is with us. So Allah sent down His tranquillity upon him and strengthened him with hosts which you did not see, and made lowest the word of those who disbelieved; and the word of Allah, that is the highest; and Allah is Mighty, Wise.
    [9.41] Go forth light and heavy, and strive hard in Allah’s way with your property and your persons; this is better for you, if you know.
    [9.42] Had it been a near advantage and a short journey, they would certainly have followed you, but the tedious journey was too long for them; and they swear by Allah: If we had been able, we would certainly have gone forth with you; they cause their own souls to perish, and Allah knows that they are most surely
    [9.43] Allah pardon you! Why did you give them leave until those who spoke the truth had become manifest to you and you had known the liars?
    [9.44] They do not ask leave of you who believe in Allah and the latter day (to stay away) from striving hard with their property and their persons, and Allah knows those who guard (against evil).
    [9.45] They only ask leave of you who do not believe in Allah and the latter day and their hearts are in doubt, so in their doubt do they waver.
    [9.46] And if they had intended to go forth, they would certainly have provided equipment for it, but Allah did not like their going forth, so He withheld them, and it was said (to them): Hold back with those who hold back.
    [9.47] Had they gone forth with you, they would not have added to you aught save corruption, and they would certainly have hurried about among you seeking (to sow) dissension among you, and among you there are those who hearken for their sake; and Allah knows the unjust.
    [9.48] Certainly they sought (to sow) dissension before, and they meditated plots against you until the truth came, and Allah’s commandment prevailed although they were averse (from it).
    [9.49] And among them there is he who says: Allow me and do not try me. Surely into trial have they already tumbled down, and most surely hell encompasses the unbelievers.
    [9.50] If good befalls you, it grieves them, and if hardship afflicts you, they say: Indeed we had taken care of our affair before; and they turn back and are glad.
    [9.51] Say: Nothing will afflict us save what Allah has ordained for us; He is our.Patron; and on Allah let the believers rely.
    [9.52] Say: Do you await for us but one of two most excellent things? And we await for you that Allah will afflict you with punishment from Himself or by our hands. So wait; we too will wait with you.
    [9.53] Say: Spend willingly or unwillingly, it shall not be accepted from you; surely you are a transgressing people.
    [9.54] And nothing hinders their spendings being accepted from them, except that they disbelieve in Allah and in His Apostle and they do not come to prayer but while they are sluggish, and they do not spend but while they are unwilling.
    [9.55] Let not then their property and their children excite your admiration; Allah only wishes to chastise them with these in this world’s life and (that) their souls may depart while they are unbelievers.
    [9.56] And they swear by Allah that they are most surely of you, and they are not of you, but they are a people who are afraid (of you).
    [9.57] If they could find a refuge or cave or a place to enter into, they would certainly have turned thereto, running away in all haste.
    [9.58] And of them there are those who blame you with respect to the alms; so if they are given from it they are pleased, and if they are not given from it, lo! they are full of rage.
    [9.59] And if they were content with what Allah and His Apostle gave them, and had said: Allah is sufficient for us; Allah will soon give us (more) out of His grace and His Apostle too; surely to Allah do we make our petition.
    [9.60] Alms are only for the poor and the needy, and the officials (appointed) over them, and those whose hearts are made to incline (to truth) and the (ransoming of) captives and those in debts and in the way of Allah and the wayfarer; an ordinance from Allah; and Allah is knowing, Wise.
    [9.61] And there are some of them who molest the Prophet and say: He is one who believes every thing that he hears; say: A hearer of good for you (who) believes in Allah and believes the faithful and a mercy for those of you who believe; and (as for) those who molest the Apostle of Allah, they shall have a painful punishment.
    [9.62] They swear to you by Allah that they might please you and, Allah, as well as His Apostle, has a greater right that they should please Him, if they are believers.
    [9.63] Do they not know that whoever acts in opposition to Allah and His Apostle, he shall surely have the fire of hell to abide in it? That is the grievous abasement.
    [9.64] The hypocrites fear lest a chapter should be sent down to them telling them plainly of what is in their hearts. Say: Go on mocking, surely Allah will bring forth what you fear.
    [9.65] And if you should question them, they would certainly say: We were only idly discoursing and sporting. Say: Was it at Allah and His communications and His Apostle that you mocked?
    [9.66] Do not make excuses; you have denied indeed after you had believed; if We pardon a party of you, We will chastise (another) party because they are guilty.
    [9.67] The hypocritical men and the hypocritical women are all alike; they enjoin evil and forbid good and withhold their hands; they have forsaken Allah, so He has forsaken them; surely the hypocrites are the transgressors.
    [9.68] Allah has promised the hypocritical men and the hypocritical women and the unbelievers the fire of hell to abide therein; it is enough for them; and Allah has cursed them and they shall have lasting punishment.
    [9.69] Like those before you; they were stronger than you in power and more abundant in wealth and children, so they enjoyed their portion; thus have you enjoyed your portion as those before you enjoyed their portion; and you entered into vain discourses like the vain discourses in which entered those before you. These are they whose works are null in this world and the hereafter, and these are they who are the losers.
    [9.70] Has not the news of those before them come to them; of the people of Nuh and Ad and Samood, and the people of Ibrahim and the dwellers of Madyan and the overthrown cities; their apostles came to them with clear arguments; so it was not Allah Who should do them injustice, but they were unjust to themselves.
    [9.71] And (as for) the believing men and the believing women, they are guardians of each other; they enjoin good and forbid evil and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, and obey Allah and His Apostle; (as for) these, Allah will show mercy to them; surely Allah is Mighty, Wise.
    [9.72] Allah has promised to the believing men and the believing women gardens, beneath which rivers flow, to abide in them, and goodly dwellings in gardens of perpetual abode; and best of all is Allah’s goodly pleasure; that is the grand achievement.
    [9.73] O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination.
    [9.74] They swear by Allah that they did not speak, and certainly they did speak, the word of unbelief, and disbelieved after their Islam, and they had determined upon what they have not been able to effect, and they did not find fault except because Allah and His Apostle enriched them out of His grace; therefore if they repent, it will be good for them; and if they turn back, Allah will chastise them with a painful chastisement in this world and the hereafter, and they shall not have in the land any guardian or a helper.
    [9.75] And there are those of them who made a covenant with Allah: If He give us out of His grace, we will certainly give alms and we will certainly be of the good.
    [9.76] But when He gave them out of His grace, they became niggardly of it and they turned back and they withdrew.
    [9.77] So He made hypocrisy to follow as a consequence into their hearts till the day when they shall meet Him because they failed to perform towards Allah what they had promised with Him and because they told lies.
    [9.78] Do they not know that Allah knows their hidden thoughts and their secret counsels, and that Allah is the great Knower of the unseen things?
    [9.79] They who taunt those of the faithful who give their alms freely, and those who give to the extent of their earnings and scoff at them; Allah will pay them back their scoffing, and they shall have a painful chastisement.
    [9.80] Ask forgiveness for them or do not ask forgiveness for them; even if you ask forgiveness for them seventy times, Allah will not forgive them; this is because they disbelieve in Allah and His Apostle, and Allah does not guide the transgressing people.
    [9.81] Those who were left behind were glad on account of their sitting behind Allah’s Apostle and they were averse from striving m Allah’s way with their property and their persons, and said: Do not go forth in the heat. Say: The fire of hell is much severe in heat. Would that they understood (it).
    [9.82] Therefore they shall laugh little and weep much as a recompense for what they earned.
    [9.83] Therefore if Allah brings you back to a party of them and then they ask your permission to go forth, say: By no means shall you ever go forth with me and by no means shall you fight an enemy with me; surely you chose to sit the first time, therefore sit (now) with those who remain behind.
    [9.84] And never offer prayer for any one of them who dies and do not stand by his grave; surely they disbelieve in Allah and His Apostle and they shall die in transgression.
    [9.85] And let not their property and their children excite your admlration; Allah only wishes to chastise them with these in this world and (that) their souls may depart while they are unbelievers
    [9.86] And whenever a chapter is revealed, saying: Believe in Allah and strive hard along with His Apostle, those having ampleness of means ask permission of you and say: Leave us (behind), that we may be with those who sit.
    [9.87] They preferred to be with those who remained behind, and a seal is set on their hearts so they do not understand.
    [9.88] But the Apostle and those who believe with him strive hard with their property and their persons; and these it is who shall have the good things and these it is who shall be successful.
    [9.89] Allah has prepared for them gardens beneath which rivers flow, to abide in them; that is the great achievement. And the defaulters from among the dwellers of the desert came that permission may be given to them and they sat (at home) who lied to Allah and His Apostle; a painful chastisement shall afflict those of them who disbelieved.
    [9.91] It shall be no crime in the weak, nor in the sick, nor in those who do not find what they should spend (to stay behind), so long as they are sincere to Allah and His Apostle; there is no way (to blame) against the doers of good; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful;
    [9.92] Nor in those who when they came to you that you might carry them, you said: I cannot find that on which to carry you; they went back while their eyes overflowed with tears on account of grief for not finding that which they should spend.
    [9.93] The way (to blame) is only against those who ask permission of you though they are rich; they have chosen to be with those who remained behind, and Allah has set a seal upon their hearts so they do not know.
    [9.94] They will excuse themselves to you when you go back to them. Say: Urge no excuse, by no means will we believe you; indeed Allah has informed us of matters relating to you; and now Allah and His Apostle will see your doings, then you shall be brought back to the Knower of the unseen and the seen, then He will inform you of what you did.
    [9.95] They will swear to you by Allah when you return to them so that you may turn aside from them; so do turn aside from them; surely they are unclean and their abode is hell; a recompense for what they earned.
    [9.96] They will swear to you that you may be pleased with them; but if you are pleased with them, yet surely Allah is not pleased with the transgressing people.
    [9.97] The dwellers of the desert are very hard in unbelief and hypocrisy, and more disposed not to know the limits of what Allah has revealed to His Apostle; and Allah is Knowing, Wise.
    [9.98] And of the dwellers of the desert are those who take what they spend to be a fine, and they wait (the befalling of) calamities to you; on them (will be) the evil calamity; and Allah is Hearing, Knowing.
    [9.99] And of the dwellers of the desert are those who believe in Allah and the latter day and take what they spend to be (means of) the nearness of Allah and the Apostle’s prayers; surely it shall be means of nearness for them; Allah will make them enter into His mercy; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
    [9.100] And (as for) the foremost, the first of the Muhajirs and the Ansars, and those who followed them in goodness, Allah is well pleased with them and they are well pleased with Him, and He has prepared for them gardens beneath which rivers flOw, to abide in them for ever; that is the mighty achievement.
    [9.101] And from among those who are round about you of the dwellers of the desert there are hypocrites, and from among the people of Medina (also); they are stubborn in hypocrisy; you do not know them; We know them; We will chastise them twice then shall they be turned back to a grievous chastisement

    I think it is you who needs to get educated on the fundamental differences between Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Remember Daniel Pearl?

  • Socco_puppetski

    If you know what IMMUNITY of Sura Nine, to which everything else in the Koran abrogates to, then you know:

    1 – The god of Islam is pleased when the Muslim deceives the Non-Muslim.
    2 – The god of Islam is pleased when the Muslim steals from the Non-Muslim.
    3 – The god of Islam is pleased when the Muslim enslaves the Non-Muslim.
    4 – The god of Islam is pleased when the Muslim kills the Non-Muslim.

    SURA NINE – THE IMMUNITY
    [9.1] (This is a declaration of) immunity by Allah and His Apostle towards those of the idolaters with whom you made an agreement.
    [9.2] So go about in the land for four months and know that you cannot weaken Allah and that Allah will bring disgrace to the unbelievers.
    [9.3] And an announcement from Allah and His Apostle to the people on the day of the greater pilgrimage that Allah and His Apostle are free from liability to the idolaters; therefore if you repent, it will be better for you, and if you turn back, then know that you will not weaken Allah; and announce painful punishment to those who disbelieve.
    [9.4] Except those of the idolaters with whom you made an agreement, then they have not failed you in anything and have not backed up any one against you, so fulfill their agreement to the end of their term; surely Allah loves those who are careful (of their duty).
    [9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
    [9.6] And if one of the idolaters seek protection from you, grant him protection till he hears the word of Allah, then make him attain his place of safety; this is because they are a people who do not know.
    [9.7] How can there be an agreement for the idolaters with Allah and with His Apostle; except those with whom you made an agreement at the Sapcred Mosque? So as long as they are true to you, be true to them; surely Allah loves those who are careful (of their duty).
    [9.8] How (can it be)! while if they prevail against you, they would not pay regard in your case to ties of relationship, nor those of covenant; they please you with their mouths while their hearts do not consent; and most of them are transgressors.
    [9.9] They have taken a small price for the communications of Allah, so they turn away from His way; surely evil is it that they do.
    [9.10] They do not pay regard to ties of relationship nor those of covenant in the case of a believer; and these are they who go beyond the limits.
    [9.11] But if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, they are your brethren in faith; and We make the communications clear for a people who know.
    [9.12] And if they break their oaths after their agreement and (openly) revile your religion, then fight the leaders of unbelief– surely their oaths are nothing– so that they may desist.
    [9.13] What! will you not fight a people who broke their oaths and aimed at the expulsion of the Apostle, and they attacked you first; do you fear them? But Allah is most deserving that you should fear Him, if you are believers.
    [9.14] Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace, and assist you against them and heal the hearts of a believing people.
    [9.15] And remove the rage of their hearts; and Allah turns (mercifully) to whom He pleases, and Allah is Knowing, Wise.
    [9.16] What! do you think that you will be left alone while Allah has not yet known those of you who have struggled hard and have not taken any one as an adherent besides Allah and His Apostle and the believers; and Allah is aware of what you do.
    [9.17] The idolaters have no right to visit the mosques of Allah while bearing witness to unbelief against themselves, these it is whose doings are null, and in the fire shall they abide.
    [9.18] Only he shall visit the mosques of Allah who believes in Allah and the latter day, and keeps up prayer and pays the poor-rate and fears none but Allah; so (as for) these, it may be that they are of the followers of the right course.
    [9.19] What! do you make (one who undertakes) the giving of drink to the pilgrims and the guarding of the Sacred Mosque like him who believes in Allah and the latter day and strives hard in Allah’s way? They are not equal with Allah; and Allah does not guide the unjust people.
    [9.20] Those who believed and fled (their homes), and strove hard in Allah’s way with their property and their souls, are much higher in rank with Allah; and those are they who are the achievers (of their objects).
    [9.21] Their Lord gives them good news of mercy from Himself and (His) good pleasure and gardens, wherein lasting blessings shall be theirs;
    [9.22] Abiding therein for ever; surely Allah has a Mighty reward with Him.
    [9.23] O you who believe! do not take your fathers and your brothers for guardians if they love unbelief more than belief; and whoever of you takes them for a guardian, these it is that are the unjust.
    [9.24] Say: If your fathers and your sons and your brethren and your mates and your kinsfolk and property which you have acquired, and the slackness of trade which you fear and dwellings which you like, are dearer to you than Allah and His Apostle and striving in His way, then wait till Allah brings about His command: and Allah does not guide the transgressing people.
    [9.25] Certainly Allah helped you in many battlefields and on the day of Hunain, when your great numbers made you vain, but they availed you nothing and the earth became strait to you notwithstanding its spaciousness, then you turned back retreating.
    [9.26] Then Allah sent down His tranquillity upon His Apostle and upon the believers, and sent down hosts which you did not see, and chastised those who disbelieved, and that is the reward of the unbelievers.
    [9.27] Then will Allah after this turn (mercifully) to whom He pleases, and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
    [9.28] O you who believe! the idolaters are nothing but unclean, so they shall not approach the Sacred Mosque after this year; and if you fear poverty then Allah will enrich you out of His grace if He please; surely Allah is Knowing Wise.
    [9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.
    [9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!
    [9.31] They have taken their doctors of law and their monks for lords besides Allah, and (also) the Messiah son of Marium and they were enjoined that they should serve one God only, there is no god but He; far from His glory be what they set up (with Him).
    [9.32] They desire to put out the light of Allah with their mouths, and Allah will not consent save to perfect His light, though the unbelievers are averse.
    [9.33] He it is Who sent His Apostle with guidance and the religion of truth, that He might cause it to prevail over all religions, though the polytheists may be averse.
    [9.34] O you who believe! most surely many of the doctors of law and the monks eat away the property of men falsely, and turn (them) from Allah’s way; and (as for) those who hoard up gold and silver and do not spend it in Allah’s way, announce to them a painful chastisement,
    [9.35] On the day when it shall be heated in the fire of hell, then their foreheads and their sides and their backs shall be branded with it; this is what you hoarded up for yourselves, therefore taste what you hoarded.
    [9.36] Surely the number of months with Allah is twelve months in Allah’s ordinance since the day when He created the heavens and the earth, of these four being sacred; that is the right reckoning; therefore be not unjust to yourselves regarding them, and fight the polytheists all together as they fight you all together; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).
    [9.37] Postponing (of the sacred month) is only an addition in unbelief, wherewith those who disbelieve are led astray, violating it one year and keeping it sacred another, that they may agree in the number (of months) that Allah has made sacred, and thus violate what Allah has made sacred; the evil of their doings is made fairseeming to them; and Allah does not guide the unbelieving people.
    [9.38] O you who believe! What (excuse) have you that when it is said to you: Go forth in Allah’s way, you should incline heavily to earth; are you contented with this world’s life instead of the hereafter? But the provision of this world’s life compared with the hereafter is but little.
    [9.39] If you do not go forth, He will chastise you with a painful chastisement and bring in your place a people other than you, and you will do Him no harm; and Allah has power over all things.
    [9.40] If you will not aid him, Allah certainly aided him when those who disbelieved expelled him, he being the second of the two, when they were both in the cave, when he said to his companion: Grieve not, surely Allah is with us. So Allah sent down His tranquillity upon him and strengthened him with hosts which you did not see, and made lowest the word of those who disbelieved; and the word of Allah, that is the highest; and Allah is Mighty, Wise.
    [9.41] Go forth light and heavy, and strive hard in Allah’s way with your property and your persons; this is better for you, if you know.
    [9.42] Had it been a near advantage and a short journey, they would certainly have followed you, but the tedious journey was too long for them; and they swear by Allah: If we had been able, we would certainly have gone forth with you; they cause their own souls to perish, and Allah knows that they are most surely
    [9.43] Allah pardon you! Why did you give them leave until those who spoke the truth had become manifest to you and you had known the liars?
    [9.44] They do not ask leave of you who believe in Allah and the latter day (to stay away) from striving hard with their property and their persons, and Allah knows those who guard (against evil).
    [9.45] They only ask leave of you who do not believe in Allah and the latter day and their hearts are in doubt, so in their doubt do they waver.
    [9.46] And if they had intended to go forth, they would certainly have provided equipment for it, but Allah did not like their going forth, so He withheld them, and it was said (to them): Hold back with those who hold back.
    [9.47] Had they gone forth with you, they would not have added to you aught save corruption, and they would certainly have hurried about among you seeking (to sow) dissension among you, and among you there are those who hearken for their sake; and Allah knows the unjust.
    [9.48] Certainly they sought (to sow) dissension before, and they meditated plots against you until the truth came, and Allah’s commandment prevailed although they were averse (from it).
    [9.49] And among them there is he who says: Allow me and do not try me. Surely into trial have they already tumbled down, and most surely hell encompasses the unbelievers.
    [9.50] If good befalls you, it grieves them, and if hardship afflicts you, they say: Indeed we had taken care of our affair before; and they turn back and are glad.
    [9.51] Say: Nothing will afflict us save what Allah has ordained for us; He is our.Patron; and on Allah let the believers rely.
    [9.52] Say: Do you await for us but one of two most excellent things? And we await for you that Allah will afflict you with punishment from Himself or by our hands. So wait; we too will wait with you.
    [9.53] Say: Spend willingly or unwillingly, it shall not be accepted from you; surely you are a transgressing people.
    [9.54] And nothing hinders their spendings being accepted from them, except that they disbelieve in Allah and in His Apostle and they do not come to prayer but while they are sluggish, and they do not spend but while they are unwilling.
    [9.55] Let not then their property and their children excite your admiration; Allah only wishes to chastise them with these in this world’s life and (that) their souls may depart while they are unbelievers.
    [9.56] And they swear by Allah that they are most surely of you, and they are not of you, but they are a people who are afraid (of you).
    [9.57] If they could find a refuge or cave or a place to enter into, they would certainly have turned thereto, running away in all haste.
    [9.58] And of them there are those who blame you with respect to the alms; so if they are given from it they are pleased, and if they are not given from it, lo! they are full of rage.
    [9.59] And if they were content with what Allah and His Apostle gave them, and had said: Allah is sufficient for us; Allah will soon give us (more) out of His grace and His Apostle too; surely to Allah do we make our petition.
    [9.60] Alms are only for the poor and the needy, and the officials (appointed) over them, and those whose hearts are made to incline (to truth) and the (ransoming of) captives and those in debts and in the way of Allah and the wayfarer; an ordinance from Allah; and Allah is knowing, Wise.
    [9.61] And there are some of them who molest the Prophet and say: He is one who believes every thing that he hears; say: A hearer of good for you (who) believes in Allah and believes the faithful and a mercy for those of you who believe; and (as for) those who molest the Apostle of Allah, they shall have a painful punishment.
    [9.62] They swear to you by Allah that they might please you and, Allah, as well as His Apostle, has a greater right that they should please Him, if they are believers.
    [9.63] Do they not know that whoever acts in opposition to Allah and His Apostle, he shall surely have the fire of hell to abide in it? That is the grievous abasement.
    [9.64] The hypocrites fear lest a chapter should be sent down to them telling them plainly of what is in their hearts. Say: Go on mocking, surely Allah will bring forth what you fear.
    [9.65] And if you should question them, they would certainly say: We were only idly discoursing and sporting. Say: Was it at Allah and His communications and His Apostle that you mocked?
    [9.66] Do not make excuses; you have denied indeed after you had believed; if We pardon a party of you, We will chastise (another) party because they are guilty.
    [9.67] The hypocritical men and the hypocritical women are all alike; they enjoin evil and forbid good and withhold their hands; they have forsaken Allah, so He has forsaken them; surely the hypocrites are the transgressors.
    [9.68] Allah has promised the hypocritical men and the hypocritical women and the unbelievers the fire of hell to abide therein; it is enough for them; and Allah has cursed them and they shall have lasting punishment.
    [9.69] Like those before you; they were stronger than you in power and more abundant in wealth and children, so they enjoyed their portion; thus have you enjoyed your portion as those before you enjoyed their portion; and you entered into vain discourses like the vain discourses in which entered those before you. These are they whose works are null in this world and the hereafter, and these are they who are the losers.
    [9.70] Has not the news of those before them come to them; of the people of Nuh and Ad and Samood, and the people of Ibrahim and the dwellers of Madyan and the overthrown cities; their apostles came to them with clear arguments; so it was not Allah Who should do them injustice, but they were unjust to themselves.
    [9.71] And (as for) the believing men and the believing women, they are guardians of each other; they enjoin good and forbid evil and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, and obey Allah and His Apostle; (as for) these, Allah will show mercy to them; surely Allah is Mighty, Wise.
    [9.72] Allah has promised to the believing men and the believing women gardens, beneath which rivers flow, to abide in them, and goodly dwellings in gardens of perpetual abode; and best of all is Allah’s goodly pleasure; that is the grand achievement.
    [9.73] O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination.
    [9.74] They swear by Allah that they did not speak, and certainly they did speak, the word of unbelief, and disbelieved after their Islam, and they had determined upon what they have not been able to effect, and they did not find fault except because Allah and His Apostle enriched them out of His grace; therefore if they repent, it will be good for them; and if they turn back, Allah will chastise them with a painful chastisement in this world and the hereafter, and they shall not have in the land any guardian or a helper.
    [9.75] And there are those of them who made a covenant with Allah: If He give us out of His grace, we will certainly give alms and we will certainly be of the good.
    [9.76] But when He gave them out of His grace, they became niggardly of it and they turned back and they withdrew.
    [9.77] So He made hypocrisy to follow as a consequence into their hearts till the day when they shall meet Him because they failed to perform towards Allah what they had promised with Him and because they told lies.
    [9.78] Do they not know that Allah knows their hidden thoughts and their secret counsels, and that Allah is the great Knower of the unseen things?
    [9.79] They who taunt those of the faithful who give their alms freely, and those who give to the extent of their earnings and scoff at them; Allah will pay them back their scoffing, and they shall have a painful chastisement.
    [9.80] Ask forgiveness for them or do not ask forgiveness for them; even if you ask forgiveness for them seventy times, Allah will not forgive them; this is because they disbelieve in Allah and His Apostle, and Allah does not guide the transgressing people.
    [9.81] Those who were left behind were glad on account of their sitting behind Allah’s Apostle and they were averse from striving m Allah’s way with their property and their persons, and said: Do not go forth in the heat. Say: The fire of hell is much severe in heat. Would that they understood (it).
    [9.82] Therefore they shall laugh little and weep much as a recompense for what they earned.
    [9.83] Therefore if Allah brings you back to a party of them and then they ask your permission to go forth, say: By no means shall you ever go forth with me and by no means shall you fight an enemy with me; surely you chose to sit the first time, therefore sit (now) with those who remain behind.
    [9.84] And never offer prayer for any one of them who dies and do not stand by his grave; surely they disbelieve in Allah and His Apostle and they shall die in transgression.
    [9.85] And let not their property and their children excite your admlration; Allah only wishes to chastise them with these in this world and (that) their souls may depart while they are unbelievers
    [9.86] And whenever a chapter is revealed, saying: Believe in Allah and strive hard along with His Apostle, those having ampleness of means ask permission of you and say: Leave us (behind), that we may be with those who sit.
    [9.87] They preferred to be with those who remained behind, and a seal is set on their hearts so they do not understand.
    [9.88] But the Apostle and those who believe with him strive hard with their property and their persons; and these it is who shall have the good things and these it is who shall be successful.
    [9.89] Allah has prepared for them gardens beneath which rivers flow, to abide in them; that is the great achievement. And the defaulters from among the dwellers of the desert came that permission may be given to them and they sat (at home) who lied to Allah and His Apostle; a painful chastisement shall afflict those of them who disbelieved.
    [9.91] It shall be no crime in the weak, nor in the sick, nor in those who do not find what they should spend (to stay behind), so long as they are sincere to Allah and His Apostle; there is no way (to blame) against the doers of good; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful;
    [9.92] Nor in those who when they came to you that you might carry them, you said: I cannot find that on which to carry you; they went back while their eyes overflowed with tears on account of grief for not finding that which they should spend.
    [9.93] The way (to blame) is only against those who ask permission of you though they are rich; they have chosen to be with those who remained behind, and Allah has set a seal upon their hearts so they do not know.
    [9.94] They will excuse themselves to you when you go back to them. Say: Urge no excuse, by no means will we believe you; indeed Allah has informed us of matters relating to you; and now Allah and His Apostle will see your doings, then you shall be brought back to the Knower of the unseen and the seen, then He will inform you of what you did.
    [9.95] They will swear to you by Allah when you return to them so that you may turn aside from them; so do turn aside from them; surely they are unclean and their abode is hell; a recompense for what they earned.
    [9.96] They will swear to you that you may be pleased with them; but if you are pleased with them, yet surely Allah is not pleased with the transgressing people.
    [9.97] The dwellers of the desert are very hard in unbelief and hypocrisy, and more disposed not to know the limits of what Allah has revealed to His Apostle; and Allah is Knowing, Wise.
    [9.98] And of the dwellers of the desert are those who take what they spend to be a fine, and they wait (the befalling of) calamities to you; on them (will be) the evil calamity; and Allah is Hearing, Knowing.
    [9.99] And of the dwellers of the desert are those who believe in Allah and the latter day and take what they spend to be (means of) the nearness of Allah and the Apostle’s prayers; surely it shall be means of nearness for them; Allah will make them enter into His mercy; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
    [9.100] And (as for) the foremost, the first of the Muhajirs and the Ansars, and those who followed them in goodness, Allah is well pleased with them and they are well pleased with Him, and He has prepared for them gardens beneath which rivers flOw, to abide in them for ever; that is the mighty achievement.
    [9.101] And from among those who are round about you of the dwellers of the desert there are hypocrites, and from among the people of Medina (also); they are stubborn in hypocrisy; you do not know them; We know them; We will chastise them twice then shall they be turned back to a grievous chastisement

    I think it is you who needs to get educated on the fundamental differences between Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Remember Daniel Pearl?

  • Socco_puppetski

    Come on man. The Commander in Chief of the Marine-corpse is the smartest man in 57 of our 58 states…

    I wouldn’t confuse a slick talking lawyer with an intelligent person. Obama doesnt Understand even Basic History:

    * He claimed the Americans liberated Auschwitz and Treblinka. They did not.

    * He said the whole world came together to save Berlin during the airlift. No they didn’t; it was mostly an American and British effort.

    * He portrays his father as a freedom fighter, when in fact he was part of an extremely violent, corrupt movement in Kenya.

    * He believes his Kenyan family was involved with the African freedom movement. No, they weren’t. Obama’s relatives have attempted to impose Sharia law in Kenya.

    * He even thinks the origins of his name is Swahili. No, its not. It’s Arabic. Swahili has nothing to do with his name.

    * He claims that as a result of the Selma march, he was born. Not true. Obama was born four years before the Selma march.

    * He claimed to have campaigned in 57 states, and had one more to go =58

    *He is so smart, he pronounces corpsman as corpse-man simply because he knows that our Air Corps are made up entirely of the undead…

  • Socco_puppetski

    Come on man. The Commander in Chief of the Marine-corpse is the smartest man in 57 of our 58 states…

    I wouldn’t confuse a slick talking lawyer with an intelligent person. Obama doesnt Understand even Basic History:

    * He claimed the Americans liberated Auschwitz and Treblinka. They did not.

    * He said the whole world came together to save Berlin during the airlift. No they didn’t; it was mostly an American and British effort.

    * He portrays his father as a freedom fighter, when in fact he was part of an extremely violent, corrupt movement in Kenya.

    * He believes his Kenyan family was involved with the African freedom movement. No, they weren’t. Obama’s relatives have attempted to impose Sharia law in Kenya.

    * He even thinks the origins of his name is Swahili. No, its not. It’s Arabic. Swahili has nothing to do with his name.

    * He claims that as a result of the Selma march, he was born. Not true. Obama was born four years before the Selma march.

    * He claimed to have campaigned in 57 states, and had one more to go =58

    *He is so smart, he pronounces corpsman as corpse-man simply because he knows that our Air Corps are made up entirely of the undead…

  • Socco_puppetski

    Come on man. The Commander in Chief of the Marine-corpse is the smartest man in 57 of our 58 states…

    I wouldn’t confuse a slick talking lawyer with an intelligent person. Obama doesnt Understand even Basic History:

    * He claimed the Americans liberated Auschwitz and Treblinka. They did not.

    * He said the whole world came together to save Berlin during the airlift. No they didn’t; it was mostly an American and British effort.

    * He portrays his father as a freedom fighter, when in fact he was part of an extremely violent, corrupt movement in Kenya.

    * He believes his Kenyan family was involved with the African freedom movement. No, they weren’t. Obama’s relatives have attempted to impose Sharia law in Kenya.

    * He even thinks the origins of his name is Swahili. No, its not. It’s Arabic. Swahili has nothing to do with his name.

    * He claims that as a result of the Selma march, he was born. Not true. Obama was born four years before the Selma march.

    * He claimed to have campaigned in 57 states, and had one more to go =58

    *He is so smart, he pronounces corpsman as corpse-man simply because he knows that our Air Corps are made up entirely of the undead…

  • http://www.dirtycajuns.com/2010/06/347/ |

    [...] What is being posted on the web is that 3 weeks before the explosion our friends a Goldman Sachs sold 44% of their BP stock. They also went short on Transocean stock just before the well plummeted to the sea and share [...]

  • MrComments

    Great, another intellect who thinks the whole world is a conspiracy. No buy another Alex Jones book pinhead.

  • MrComments

    Great, another intellect who thinks the whole world is a conspiracy. No buy another Alex Jones book pinhead.

  • MrComments

    So politicians running the money system would be better? You for real? You want Barney Frank running the money system? The Fed sucks, but it beats the hell out of Dems and Reps.

  • MrComments

    So politicians running the money system would be better? You for real? You want Barney Frank running the money system? The Fed sucks, but it beats the hell out of Dems and Reps.

  • MrComments

    Still having problems with complete sentences I see…..

  • MrComments

    Still having problems with complete sentences I see…..

  • http://www.liberatorinc.com/?p=127 Notes on the BP Oil Spill | Liberator Inc

    [...] They knew before hand that something was very wrong  http://www.scribd.com/doc/32663286/Deepwater-Horizon-Interim-Incident-Investigation-BP-s-Washington-Briefing Goldman Sachs sold $250 million of BP stock before spill -http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0602/month-oil-spill-goldman-sachs-sold-250-million-bp-stock/ [...]

  • http://zedek.us/?p=4130 Mounting Evidence the Gulf Spill Was & Is Deliberate | THE ORDER OF MELCHIZEDEK

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  • Paulmann

    ,,all life is precious MS.Sarah. Even the wolf.
    Please stop the senseless wounding and murder of defenseless creatures.
    The vids I watched of this turned my stomach.

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  • http://infoguerilla.fr/?p=2582 L’évidence disponible pointe vers une opération false flag pour la fuite de pétrole de BP  /  IG

    [...] Goldman Sachs a vendu 44% de ses parts dans BP Oil au cours du premier trimestre – Des actions qui ont ensuite perdu 36% de leur valeur, ce qui équivaut à 96 millions de dollars. [...]

  • MrComments

    He worked as a low lever guy prepping papers and such for a CIA front company. It’s common knowledge, but of course can’t be publically discussed.Big deal. You need to get over yourself, your paranoia is astounding. He was also a Community Organizer in Chicago……which of course makes his “secrete agenda” that of the Black Panthers. Oh my god, he has a secret plan to kill all white people……

    Do you realize your “theory” is as idiotic as that one. Again, get over yourself, you are not that bright.

  • MrComments

    If you think that 30 years of total stupidity and letting things get out of control can be fixed in 15 months, you need to change your screen name as you are delusional.

  • Individual369

    we better unite and do something now. I'm sorry, but if are still sitting around and talking politics while our food & water supply is governed by govt officials that are self proclaimed satanist, than maybe we deserve to be abolished. Between our children being killed and raped at daycare centers (Finders, West Point, Presidio, boys town, etc.), project monarch (media, musicians), oil spill that is carrying toxins and minerals that will kill millions of people, especially if a hurricane comes in, all of our constitutional rights gone, chemtrails, morgellons, police recruitment decided by lie detector test (ever look at porn, steal, look at any one funny – no, no, no -meaning no conscious to lying – profiling), wars that have killed millions of women and children already, where the heck is Lindsay Lohan, Obama illegal to be president (look up his mentor – Frank Davis), Michael Alguino, Zeena Lavey, Oprah, Bill Gates – all the same people with the same agenda – Jack Pasons, LRon Hubbard, Aleister Crowley, bailey, Hitler, all of them – what do you think they have in store for us, come on people! Right now we still out number them and can still move our arms and legs. Are we freaking crazy!

  • http://xcitingtimes.wordpress.com/2010/06/13/gulf-of-mexico-bp-oil-disaster-2/ Gulf of Mexico BP oil disaster « These are Exciting Times…

    [...] playlist: Gulf of Mexico BP oil disaster BP chief Tony Hayward sold shares weeks before oil spill Goldman Sachs sold $250 million of BP stock before spill BP Official Admits to Damage BENEATH THE SEA FLOOR Scientist: BP Well Could Be Leaking 100,000 [...]

  • http://xcitingtimes.wordpress.com/2010/06/13/gulf-of-mexico-bp-oil-disaster-links/ Gulf of Mexico BP oil disaster links « These are Exciting Times…

    [...] playlist: Gulf of Mexico BP oil disaster BP chief Tony Hayward sold shares weeks before oil spill Goldman Sachs sold $250 million of BP stock before spill BP Official Admits to Damage BENEATH THE SEA FLOOR Scientist: BP Well Could Be Leaking 100,000 [...]

  • http://pijamasurf.com/2010/06/%c2%bffue-planeado-el-derrame-de-petroleo-del-golfo-de-mexico-goldman-sachs-vendio-43-7-de-sus-acciones-de-bp-antes/ Conspiración del derrame de petróleo del Golfo de México; Goldman vende acciones de BP antes del derrame | Pijamasurf

    [...] Goldman sold 250 millon of BP stock before oil spill [...]

  • http://euro-med.dk/?p=15910 Globale Erwärmung Ist Nicht Nur Gaia-Kult Und Die Pistole Der NVO-Räuber – Sie Ist Auch Eine Zwangsvorstellung » Euro-med

    [...] Klimaverschiebung und massiven Abkühlung des Weltklimas führen würde".  The Raw Story on 2 June 2010: "Goldman Sachs verkauft 44% ihrer  BP-Beteiligungen-  kurz vor dem Leck. Die [...]

  • http://euro-med.dk/?p=15933 “Global Opvarmning” Er Ikke Kun Gaia-Kult Og NVO-røveres Pistol – Den Er OgsÃ¥ En Tvangstanke » Euro-med

    [...] klimaforandring og massiv afkøling af det globale klima. " The Raw Story on 2 June 2010: "Goldman Sachs solgte 44% af sin BP aktiebeholdninger - lige før udslippet. [...]

  • http://paisdaelitenews.wordpress.com/2010/06/15/vazamento-de-oleo-no-golfo-do-mexico-foi-causado-nao-acidente/ Vazamento de Óleo no Golfo do México foi causado, não acidente « Diário do Caos (blog)

    [...] A Goldman Sachs vendeu 44% das suas ações na BP Oil durante o primeiro trimestre – ações que, posteriormente, perderam 36 por cento do seu valor, o que equivale a 96 milhões de dólares (174 milhões de reais). [...]

  • http://porch-dog.com/?p=3782 Goldman Sachs and BP CEO Tony Hayward Save a lot of Money by Selling BP Shares Before the Explosion | Porch Dog

    [...] The two sales in question were CEO of British Petroleum, Tony Hayward’s and Goldman Sachs’. [...]

  • http://elsimulacrodelarealidad.wordpress.com/2010/06/15/hola-mundo/ piEl derrame de petróleo del Golfo de México se convertirá en el mayor desastre ambiental de la historia de la humanidad « Simulacro y realidad

    [...] Por otra parte, y esto es lo más crudo del asunto, es la suposición de que el desastre ha sido provocado. Se podría inferir del hecho de que Goldman Sachs vendieron 250 millones dólares de las acciones de BP antes de derrame.  (fuente: http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0602/month-oil-spill-goldman-sachs-sold-250-million-bp-stock/) [...]

  • http://infoguerilla.fr/?p=2921 Marée noire : un false flag écolo pour la Taxe Carbone mondialiste /  IG

    [...] mouvements d’avoirs et d’actions de BP opérés par des officiels de BP et les Banksters de Goldman Sachs, parfois quelques jours avant la catastrophe, dessinent un incroyable et monstrueux délit [...]

  • http://blog.flexalution.com/?p=4800 BP Profits Move the Web | Flexalution

    [...] Some searched for the scoop on “goldman sachs sells bp stock.” That last one is really true ? the investment company sold $250 million worth of stock before the spill. (Enter conspiracy theory [...]

  • http://twitter.com/molesko Morgan Lesko

    GREAT ARTICLE! It has now been cataloged in this free online research database:

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  • GeoBear

    And today, Bloomberg reports BP had problems the well actually started in February:

    “BP Plc was struggling to seal cracks in its Macondo well as far back as February, more than two months before an explosion killed 11 and spewed oil into the Gulf of Mexico.”

    so the slimy psychopaths knew it would blow…
    http://preview.bloomberg.com/news/2010-06-17/bp…

    h/t Washington's Blog: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2010/06/did-bp-o…

  • MrComments

    I agree with every one of those things you reference that he did. Obama has been making all the right moves. But let me cite one that shows how naive you are:

    Sgt Crowley, and Obama knew this from the start, was played “like a fiddle” by Gates. Gates knew exactly what he was doing when he “baited” Crowley. He WANTED to get arrested. Unless Crowley had Gates on video or audio tape acting like a maniac (and Gates knew he was not being taped), Crowley should have just ignored him. Gates was working on books, etc, that relate to this exact issue…..the only problem was how to market it. He knew when he broke into his house exactly what he was doing (and for all we know he staged it and knew people were watching), and he got FREE PUBLICITY that he NEVER would have received otherwise. Just your naive perspective on that shows how clueless you are. And yes, as usual the Right media spin was “Crowley had every right to arrest him because he broke in”….etc. and the Left media spin was “how dare this white officer arrest a black man in his own home”….etc. with neither one of them exposing the real agenda of Gates……HE WANTED TO GET ARRESTED.

    Stop spending so much time reading idiotic blogs, and get yourself a “street” education so you can understand “how things work” and how “people have agendas”. Obama has street smarts….as I do. You are naive.

    Oh, also, Obama is on record as saying that people should not listen to talk shows on FOX AND MSNBC. He told people to educate themselves. Why don’t you take his advice.

  • http://www.webdesign-luene.de/aktuelles/2010/06/18/bp-wusste-schon-vor-der-explosion-von-rissen-am-meeresboden/ BP wusste schon vor der Explosion von Rissen am Meeresboden

    [...] Weise, verkaufte Goldman Sachs im ersten Quartal 2010 44% seiner Anteile an BP Oil. Nur wenig später verloren die Aktien  36 Prozent an Wert, was 96 Millionen Dollar [...]

  • http://www.philipbrennan.net/2010/06/17/is-homeland-security-expecting-a-major-terror-attack/ Is Homeland Security Expecting a Major Terror Attack? | Philip Brennan

    [...] not to be cynical these days, but there is compelling evidence that even this event was staged, as Goldman Sachs and the head of BP, Tony Hayward, had uncanny timing in selling their BP shares weeks before the [...]

  • Douchemctouche

    Sounds like you're crazy. If you're so unhappy with the state of life in general and can't find anything uplifting among your rant of conspiracies and fear mongering, might I suggest a short peer?

  • http://www.rhonda.tv/?p=1601 Confessions of a BBGFB » While You Were Sleeping… BP Oil Spill

    [...] Goldman Sachs sold $250 million of BP stock before spill [...]

  • MrComments

    Oh, and regarding the oil spill, two reasons why Obama has not “stopped the leak”:

    First, the Feds in no way have the facilities or logistics to do it.

    Second, as soon as Obama takes the lead, the Federal government begins to assume a lot of liability. Right now, BP is liable based on documents they signed with the government, plus a potential criminal liability. But if Obama told BP to try a certain methodology and it ended up increasing the flow, the Federal government (not BP) would be liable. This is a legal issue, which is why it is nice to have intelligent people in this Admin. BP desperately wants this leak stopped, and only they have the resources to do it (it may not even be possible). Obama is keeping his foot up their butts…..but in no way will he make any suggestions on how to stop it due to the enormous ($100 bil perhaps) liability issues.

    And as to jobs, the only way to immediately stimulate job growth would have been another couple of trillion in stimulus. Instead they are making moves that will create long term steady job growth. The Health Care Bill was a perfect example. Health care cost will no longer be increasing at the astronomical rate they were, and this will help our labor costs be more competitive with other markets. Over the past 30 years, the only difference between wages of Japanese vs US Auto Workers was Health Care costs. If we had a system in place like the Japanese had, the US Auto market would have remained strong, and the Tax Revenues from those sales would have easily paid for Health Care.

    Obama has passed very few Executive Orders, so lose the “king” nonsense. Bush (or rather Cheney) was much more of a king. It was Cheney’s 2003 meeting that is still secret that led to the Iraq War, and also to minimal supervision of off shore drilling that led to BP’s being allowed to take absurd chances drilling. All other deepwater drilling in the world is done with proper backup BOP’s…..except here. Norway has had similar situations, and they were always able to shut down the well, fix things, and go back to drilling the next day.

    With all due respect, you really have no idea what you are talking about. The fact that you think Obama should (or can) fix the leak shows how naive you are. BP signed papers with the Federal Government stating they could clean up a leak bigger than this, and assumed liability for it.

    I realize you mean well, but you need to gather all information before talking, and stop listening to idiotic talk show hosts.

  • http://tilesexperts.com/wordpress/os-illuminati/vazamento-de-oleo-nvazamento-de-oleo-no-golfo-do-mexico-foi-causado-nao-acidente/ Vazamento de Óleo no Golfo do México foi causado, não acidente | Illuminati – Tiles Experts

    [...] A Goldman Sachs vendeu 44% das suas ações na BP Oil durante o primeiro trimestre – ações que, posteriormente, perderam 36 por cento do seu valor, o que equivale a 96 milhões de dólares (174 milhões de reais). [...]

  • http://market-ticker.org/archives/2433-Gods-Work-Luck-Or-Lawbreaking.html The Market Ticker ®

    God’s Work? Luck? Or Lawbreaking?…

    One has to wonder about the BP thing…. It seems incomprehensible that the president and other members of the administration still have jobs when it is now being reported that the federal government was apprised by BP on February 13 that the Deepwater…

  • http://forum.grasscity.com/politics/622041-oil-rig-accident.html#post7751702 Oil Rig ‘Accident’ – Grasscity.com Forums

    [...] 'Well, thisis how it's gonna be,' and the tool-pusher, driller and OIM reluctantlyagreed." Goldman Sachs sold $250 million of BP stock before spill | Raw Story I mean, I hate to be the one arguing about conspiracy, but I just don't have any faith left in our [...]

  • http://www.thefinancialphysician.com/blog/?p=3290 God’s Work? Luck? Or Lawbreaking? « The Financial Physician

    [...] to regulatory filings, RawStory.com has found that Goldman Sachs sold 4,680,822 shares of BP in the first quarter of 2010. Goldman’s [...]

  • http://granddelusion.wordpress.com/2010/06/22/the-reaping-knowing-evidence-for-gulf-oil-crisis-foreknowledge/ “Knowing” & “The Reaping” of Unholy Alliances for Profit – Gulf Oil Disaster « Grand Delusion

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  • Mike

    Its very simple why it is this way, Its Pride! the more pride you have the further away you get from God. Pride is the devils trait, if you have alot makes you think you are equal to him.
    To much Pride is conceit, Vanity, selfishness, arrogance, spiritual blindness. Opposite of Pride is Being grateful, Showing Gratitude and Humility when you do wrong.
    America is brainwashed with pride being a good thing, but in return pride leeds to envy, anger, lust, glutony, and greed! Been Know many years but people lost there way! Pride is all you see today and why were in this mess. Humility is wisdom!

  • Mike

    Also, Pride is so Popular because it is a very Profitable consumerism vice on people. Corps love pride and bankers, Washington, Wall street, makes them rich beyound means., and they know it.
    It makes people to stand inline for hrs on end to be the first one to have a new Ipad, while jacking up prices or any other brainwashed items out there. Which is a form of greed, the greed of aquisitions and enslavement to some, where things you own turn and own you. Then theres the greed of power and wealth, there never satisfied! plus there's greed of fear, that makes people hoard, and drives up demand, like a gas shortage would.
    Pride drives us harder to improve our illusion of productivity, Pride is just a illusion and we been brainwashed all thru life. Hard to even get a job if you don't show it.
    And now you seeing its results.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/LSTVMDKAC6TYHFAC6YYAV5BLAM John

    Disgusted,

    Thanks for your enlightening rant. I enjoyed it and you are right on target! Most people reading this will automatically think that you are just ONE of those! But this is what is going on in our country and always has been. It's like the movie “The Wizard of Oz.” Dorothy found out at the end of the movie, that SHE had the power all along and could go home any time she wanted. WE have the power and always had. It's the Elite that control and leave us in a dazed and hypnotized state of mind. WE believe what the media tells us. We watch the news and Oprah, we get caught up in the BS and distracted when Tiger Woods has another affair. Meanwhile the secret societies are meeting and carrying out their secret agenda quietly while we sleep. We outnumber this thugs and all we have to do is STOP listening and believing what they say.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/LSTVMDKAC6TYHFAC6YYAV5BLAM John

    jtre,

    That actually makes sense. All this time I knew that the BP leak was no accident but couldn't figure out what exactly happened and why. It makes sense though as to what you say.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/LSTVMDKAC6TYHFAC6YYAV5BLAM John

    R. Duke

    I wonder if deep down you really believe what you just said. Have you been to the Gulf to see the devastation? Are you aware that BP is covering up on a daily basis and preventing media sources that are not approved by BP to enter the area? Are you also aware that THEY actually stop clean up proceedings after any government officials leaves the area? People's lives are being threatened if they talk about what is really going on there.

    Maybe you are okay with losing our oceans and marine life, but I am not okay with it!

  • http://www.facebook.com/ojlindo Oscar J Lindo

    Mr Connelly, I would tend to respect your comment only if we could argue it first face to face. Unfortunately, even if i were in the same room than you, i still could not see your face since your head is so far up BP, Goldman Sachs and all the Elitists! Wake up and smell…the oil.

  • http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/06/28/is-obama-using-the-gulf-oil-spill-to-pass-cap-trade/ Is Obama using the Gulf oil spill to pass Cap & Trade? | The Post & Email

    [...] 28, 2010) — It has been reported that during the first quarter of 2010, Goldman Sachs sold 44% of its investment in British [...]

  • http://dublinmick.wordpress.com/2010/07/01/when-the-forces-of-raunch-decay-or-on-the-march-the-london-corporation-can-soon-be-found-not-far-behind/ When The Forces Of Raunch & Decay Are On The March The London Corporation Can Soon Be Found Not Far Behind | Dublinmick's Blog

    [...] testimony, that there were cracks reported in the drill casing two weeks prior to the disaster. Goldman Sachs sold 44% of their total holdings, 4,680,822 shares of BP stock in the first quarter of 2010. [...]

  • http://www.usmessageboard.com/conspiracy-theories/122960-gas-bubble-under-bp-oil-rig-is-going-to-explode.html#post2468960 Gas Bubble Under BP Oil Rig Is Going To EXPLODE – US Message Board – Political Discussion Forum

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Calvin-Stewart/1628163046 Calvin Stewart

    IF THEY SOLD STOCK I THINK THEY ( BILL GATES, AND WARREN BUFFETT )
    SHOULD GO TO PRISON JUST LIKE MARTHA STEWART DID.

  • http://www.facebook.com/matthewboylenews Matthew Boyle

    Hey everyone- I'm a freelance reporter and decided to look into this- here's what I came up with- Ran on The Daily Caller's Web site today:

    http://dailycaller.com/2010/07/04/interior-depa…

  • http://www.facebook.com/abinash.pati Abinash Pati

    superlike mike..words of wisdom

  • http://cancer.zeo.hk/the-truth-about-the-gulf-oil-crisis/ Crisis Assistance : : The Truth About The Gulf Oil Crisis – Cancer Health Center

    [...] Goldman Sachs sold 44% of their total holdings, 4,680,822 shares of BP stock in the first quarter of 2010. The investment firm earned about USD $266 million on the sale. (LINK) [...]

  • http://blog.rekursivparadoxon.eu/?p=2546 BP: Noch viel schlimmer als erwartet (2) « Rekursiv Paradoxon

    [...] haben deshalb Goldman Sachs und BP-Chef Tony Hayward ihre Aktienpakete schon vor dem Unglück [...]

  • http://mindbodypolitic.com/2010/07/09/the-kleptocrats-behind-the-gulf-oil-disaster/ The Kleptocrats Behind The Gulf Oil Disaster | LILA RAJIVA: The Mind-Body Politic

    [...] 9) Goldman Sachs (GS) officials, likewise, knew the rig was likely to explode when it did. They bet millions of dollars on this event only days before it happened! (Lloyd Blankfein, CEO of GS, directed 44% (4.6 million shares) of BP stock to be dumped three weeks … [...]

  • http://bho44.com/12213-the-truth-about-the-gulf-oil-crisis-%e2%80%93-a-special-report-by-ty.html The Truth About the Gulf Oil Crisis – A Special Report by Ty … | World Politics

    [...] Goldman Sachs sold 44% of their total holdings, 4,680,822 shares of BP stock in the first quarter of 2010. The investment firm earned about USD $266 million on the sale. (LINK) [...]

  • http://bho44.com/12268-the-plain-truth-the-plain-truth-about-the-gulf-oil-spill-and.html The Plain Truth: The Plain Truth about the Gulf Oil Spill, and … | World Politics

    [...] Goldman Sachs sold 44% of their total holdings, 4,680,822 shares of BP stock in the first quarter of 2010. The investment firm earned about USD $266 million on the sale. (LINK)  [...]

  • http://www.wearechange.org/?p=2610 Gulf Oil Crisis: Interview With A Technician  | We Are Change

    [...] Goldman Sachs, the controversial investment house at the center of the financial collapse scandal sold $250 million of BP stock just before the spill in the gulf. It has also been reported that Peter Sutherland, a former chairman of Goldman Sachs, was until [...]

  • http://www.wearechange.org/?p=2614 Gulf Oil Crisis: Interview With A Technician | We Are Change

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