Israel strenuously objected, saying they needed all our bunker busters for something else…

“Let’s drop the big one
And see what happens.”
~Randy Newman

What little respect I had for this man is now completely gone.

Who cares if BP looses their investment. This well is destroying an ocean and the land that surrounds it for crying out loud. The loss to America is in the TRILLIONS of dollars. This damage will last for generations. It is treasonous for anyone to suggest BP be allowed to save the well in light of what is happening.

I hope no consideration is being given to potential production from that well or its direct vicinity, in addressing thsi diasaster.

Why?

There is a possibility some of the oil is coming from cracks in the sea floor not adjacent to the well. See What to Do? at http://www.aesopinstitute.org

Note the comments by geologist Chris Landau. See also his remarks under Abiotic Oil on the same website.

>>”If we demolish the well using explosives, the investment's gone,”

WTF!?!?!? BP deserves to lose their investment. They drilled too fast and too deep and ignored safety concerns. There are consequences to acting irresponsibly. This is like the White Star line crying about losing their investment in the Titanic, ignoring the fact that they built an unsafe vessel, operated it recklessly and killed 1500 people in the process.

Clinton sounds like he would have accepted foreign help week 1 and gave press address week 1 asking all in our country to mobilize our resources to help week 1, and send James Lee Witt of FEMA ASAP. and then lastly point blame. Clinton would focus on fixing it and he said we should go easy on Obama's low emotion. My take of his comments is Obama is erring not in low emotion BUT by not fixing it and doing the 3 things listed ASAP but is instead trying to hold someone accountable .

http://adugan-billclintonblog.blogspot.com/

Exactly. What percentage of their working capital did BP invest in this well? A tiny fraction of the percentage that the Gulf fisherman invested in his boat, or a small business person that owns a restaurant or motel or shop catering to the tourist traffic. There are countless Americans that have invested everything they have just to scratch out a living on the gulf. It is disgusting to voice concern over how this is affecting BP’s bottom line while ignoring the hardship this is causing to hard working folks that already are struggle even in good times.

What is it that you find so appealing about 95000 barrels of oil a day leaking into the Gulf ?

please, you had NO respect for Clinton I'm sure you were one of the rabid ones calling for impeachment over consensual oral sex ooh he LIED ! I respect someone that has ideas and wants to stop this damn leak

really, my respect was lost well before he left the WH, and especially after he gave a pardon to marc rich, and then refused to pardon Leonard Peltier (FBI agents marched to the White House to oppose any pardon for Peltier) he proved what side he was actually on

I wish there was a way to cover the entire Red States' coast and waterways with oil and put a nuclear mushroom cloud over the entire area up to the Mason Dixon line without harming plants or animals. Oh, well.

Hey! I live in Florida and worked on Kucinich's campaign. Don't throw the lefty out with the bathwater!

Good idea. Just blow the living shit out of it. Thanks, Bill.

Sure a good thing we didn't listen to those so called experts from the very beginning who said don't disperse it, let it collect and concentrate in as small an area as possible so skimmers can be used to do an effective cleanup — and start this immediately, not six weeks from now. Just imagine where we'd be now if we'd listened to those guys.

Sorry to say but that is the ONLY consideration. This horrible environmental disaster is ongoing to this date precisely because BP wants to keep the well open for future exploitation. Truly, nothing else matters. There is no ceiling to the environmental damge, loss of jobs, even loss of human life that matters compared to future profits for BP.

Sadly, the Obama administration agrees with this position; otherwise I am certain that the nation that brought the world the atomic bomb, and landed men on the moon, could tap its top explosive experts to detonate a shaped explosion to collapse a well that is what a 20 inch diameter straw running more than 3 miles through the ocean floor.

Give me a break, it's all about the money.

Many have suggested something similar but there is no political willpower because both the political and the judical arms of the government are in the pockets of big oil.

Who let Bubba out?

Sorry to say but that is the ONLY consideration. This horrible environmental disaster is ongoing to this date precisely because BP wants to keep the well open for future exploitation. Truly, nothing else matters. There is no ceiling to the environmental damge, loss of jobs, even loss of human life that matters compared to future profits for BP.

Sadly, the Obama administration agrees with this position; otherwise I am certain that the nation that brought the world the atomic bomb, and landed men on the moon, could tap its top explosive experts to detonate a shaped explosion to collapse a well that is what a 20 inch diameter straw running more than 3 miles through the ocean floor.

Give me a break, it's all about the money.

…I wonder how large of a stain it will leave if they blow it up Bill?

Clinton needs to stay away from making comments on issues in which he has no technical expertise.
All references to the Russians relate to their actions with a land based well. Nothing like that has been done underwater where an entirely different set of unknown and untested circumstances would exist.

What?
Say it isn't all about the money…

LOL

“We may have to blow up the well.” This from the man that was just a wee tichy on the definition of “is.” Ummm Bubba? Whom would be this “we” you refer to? Gots a mouse in your pocket? A Monica Mouse? “Blow up the well…” key-rist man, give it a rest.

my understanding is that the experts are in the dark: we've never faced a disaster like this before. a bomb a mile down might succeed – or it might fail. what then? who can say?

that's why deep offshore drilling is so dangerous. we just don't have the technology to deal with equipment failure there. BP and the others said they did…but they lied, and a long-weakened government failed to exercise oversight

From the blue dress to the blue waters………

How the hell would you know whether I had respect for Bill Clinton or not?

I was hopeful for change in his first term, but quickly learned he wasn't the liberal savior we needed, just another coporate sellout. As for the sex scanda/impeachmentl, I thought that whole show was the biggest waste of time since the OJ trial. I never supported it. The only person who had a right to be upset about it was Hillary.

If you are going to support somebody's ideas, make sure they are sound. This one is foolish.

What a stupid comment.

Why? The answer is obvious, but since you had to ask: because the earth is unstable there and a large explosion will create a gusher a thousand times worse.

A detonation at to seafloor would likely fracture the surrounding area too, and you would have leaking everywhere. All the rubble would not be one “mass”, it would have voids and crevices that oil would come up through. Instead of a leak in one area, there would be oil permeating in numerous areas, and it would be impossible to contain ANY of that. And if you are talking about detonation down at the bottom of the well (not the sea floor), how exactly would your propose to plunge a bomb 3 miles through a 20″ hole…..with all that enormous upward pressure?

The notion that BP does not want to plug this well is absurd at best. This is killing them right now. They would be heroes if they plugged it….plus if they were able to plug it…..the method they used WOULD BE THE BACKUP SYSTEM FOR ALL DEEPWATER WELLS, and they could tell Obama to lift the moratorium, and all Deepwater Drilling would resume. I'm sorry, but what you are saying just makes no sense logistically, no sense for BP financially, and no sense even from a “pro-oil” point of view either. BP screwed up big time, and the only “fix” was additional remote blowout preventers like the rest of the world (Norway, etc.) uses quite effectively.

after the information came out about the russian use of a small nuke to close a well most of the articles (or looked up info) mentioned that when the russians used a nuke and it closed the leak it was because it was drilled into solid rock where as the gulf of mexico well is in sedimentary rock

Yeah, leave Florida out of this. We already have to clean up someone else's crap. I wish we could truck all this junk to Haley Barbour's backyard since it appears he doesn't mind wallowing in his own shit.

The problem all along is …”Critics of Clinton's plan have told Fox that BP is resisting the option because blowing up the well would ensure they could get no more oil.”

yes ” he's seen all that stuff” – now he's an expert..like the ones that created the mess .
what would it take to shut the flow from this uncontrolled gezzer?

That's correct. Thank you.

sounds like part of the $50mill BP is spending on PR found its way into MrComments pockets.
This mess is killing BP? Too f'ing bad. Somehow BP not meeting this quarter's profit projections is not something I or anyone else is real choked up about.

TRANSLATION: I cant really answer that question. So instead I will call names.

“Sorry to say but that is the ONLY consideration”…
What is your technical expertise that leads you to conclude this is the only option?
Why, as you stated, with all of the ability our nation has to solve technical problems, should they be looking in only in the atomic explosives direction?

BP's moving on to yet another deep water gamble off the coast of Libya..

Where's Harry Stamper when you need him? Oh, that's right. He nuked himself on that asteroid. We're S.O.L.

The only reason Obama isn't using a small nuke to seal the well off is so that BP can make more money from it? Tell me I read that wrong.

blah, blah blah. Who made him a geologist? Who made him an engineer? When men get power they stop recognizing their own limitations.

What are you talking about? Why are you “FOX News” twisting my words? I was in no way defending or sympathizing with BP. How does my saying that they want to stop this leak because it is killing them…….translate into me defending or sympathizing with BP. I hate the bastards. The only point I was making is that they want to stop the leak. You twisted my meaning. All the oil spilling is not only lost profits, but they have to pay to clean up the mess. Again, I could care less about BP….but they do in fact want to stop the leak, and it just can't be done until relief wells are drilled (and that may not solve it entirely either, but it will help). The Obama Admin was told on Day 1 of the leak that this could not be stopped until relief wells were drilled. Obviously they could not hold a press conference and say that (nor should they have), but that is the reality. So please re-read my first post and tell me how you interpret that to mean I feel bad for BP. We are on the same side when it comes to our feelings for BP ……. What is really outrageous is that if you add up all safety violations for US companies combined, multiply that by 10…… the number of violations by BP is still higher. Complete scum.

O.K. I admit I know nothing and have no REAL suggestions on how to end this dark nightmare BUT I do have a question: Above ground when this happens, they set a fire to it. Is that not possible in this situation? At least it would stop the flow and maybe buy some time?

So… Bubbahh Kennedy Clinton agrees with Ronald McDonald, the faster poo food child molester clown, on how to fix the gaping WOUND… that British Petroleum did to the Earth's crust? These so called “experts” are worth listening to?

Mr. Clinton would be better off in the kitchen working on a barbecue sauce recipe. That is all he's good for anymore.

It would also go against his policy that nuclear weapons are pure evil all the time. I'm glad none have been used offensively in the last 65 years and hope none are ever used in the future but BHO giving the ok to use nukes to seal the well would put a hole in his beliefs. You also seem to think that the democrats aren't also in the pocket of big business, well- “Obama received a total of $77,051 from the oil giant and is the top recipient of BP PAC and individual money over the past 20 years, according to financial disclosure records.”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/36783…

The best thing for everyone concerned including the BP invester, pensioners etc. is for this thing to end. The fact that Clinton brings up exploding the well means that it is probably being seriously considered. He wasn't born with the knowlege of how to do this so someone had to tell him something.

Blow it!

Idon't know if Bush the younger said that, but if he did then we really are being prepared for what could be a big ____ Deal.

Critics of ” Clinton's plan” may be more interested in the oil themselves but I think BP may be more interested in limiting their losses. Maybe that's why we're hearing it from people above the blog now..

Bubba von Zipper does have a point: BP's desire for profit should not be a factor in deciding how to stop Spillzilla.

Would like to see your sources.
Since when is oil found in anything other than sedimentary rock ?
Blast the thing shut. BP doesn't want that – they have the 'top hat', and the 'junk shot'. Barber shops are donating hair…. Gr8.

A nuclear weapon is a tool, and like any tool it's how and where you use it. A mile deep plus plus couldn't conceivably harm anybody, so why doesn't Obama give his Nobel back if it bothers his conscience and instead work for the American people to seal that leak ASAP the one sure way. A small nuke or even a bunker buster bomb alongside the shaft will cave it in permanently. He can find plenty of experts in Russia with experience. What's his excuse? He wants BP to make more money from that evil killer well? Why doesn't he seize the whole thing as a terrorist weapon and get it over with? Better, seize all the company's assets on U.S. soil, including bank accounts, pending settlement of all claims. $20 billion is a joke, it should be more like $200 billion shouldn't it?

As to Obama's shady past, the best place to master all the facts free and fast is my free Obamascope at http://historyscoper.com/obamascope.html

Bill, as always, is an idiot.

The Gulf floor is fractured. Another explosion will only make it worse.
Bill is obviously under the impression that there is only one little hole that is emitting oil. There are at least 18 leaks. There are likely leaks they haven't even found yet.

It cannot be repaired.

We need to stop fooling ourselves and prepare for the exodus from the Gulf coast.

Yeah, the Russians are real good about talking up their successes, but no mention of any failures (very high probability of those). A big enough bomb would probably seal it, but there's a good chance that if they were too high on the explosive level, it could bust open cracks on the ocean floor and make the problem much worse and impossible to stop with relief wells.

Kind of like when a TV personality with a PhD in Political Science considers herself to be such a brilliant mind that she becomes deluded into thinking that she knows more about physics and engineering than all the physicists and engineers of the 911 truth movement.

Is BP's little well worth more than the flora and fauna of the Gulf?

Where is their next BS ad campaign touting their concern for the endangered Brown Pelican, the soon to be extinct Leatherback Turtle, the endangered Gulf fishermen?

I, for one, won't knowingly be eating any Gulf seafood EVER in spite of how safe BP and the Government is sure to tell me it is.

I say if we do blow up the wellhead it should be done with Tony Hayward and the rest of these assholes on site.

couldn't blowing the thing up cause bigger problems?

I'd have to see the results of Clinton's breathalyzer before I listened to him and I'd have to forget eight years before I took one of his suggestions. NAFTA scum

Actually the well head is situated at the bottom of probably the deepest angled canyon in the Northern Gulf. Study a map of it. The issue with a nuclear devise before trying the relief wells is that the concussion will collapse many producing wells in the area. As the device will be well over a mile underground it work with a high probability. But like a nuclear depthcharge in water, everything gets vaporized in an measurable area and then EVERYTHING in the concussion zone collapses. Look at a well map and you can see just how many wells get concussed into non-production. They have to redrill ALL of them .. Anyone with any knowledge of the industry (and I work in it) will tell you the casing has probably been long worn out through the sheer pressure of the reservoir they hit. Think of a heavy duty wire brush at the end of a 100k psi drill going non stop against the casing. It literally eats it away. They are one, trying to get relief (high probabitity of useless effort but buys time for the other wells that will have to be sacrificed to maintain production) and two re-routing sea floor pipes in order to minimize damage there and keep whats left of the flow from other wells optimal. DON'T BE FOOLED. Nuke is the best option.

He likes things that BLOW!

He likes things that BLOW!

Unfortunately, scientists have yet to find a way to build and sustain a fire underwater.

Yep. It's one of the possibilities, but it has it's dangers.

I was thinking we could send in Robert Duvall, but Harry Stamper knows more about wells.

Thanks for responding. I only wondered because of the lava that burns underwater from volcanoes. DUH! Well, whatever it takes at this point; although, a nuke doesn't sound like a good idea either. This whole situation is being so downplayed when so many creatures are dying and so much land becoming tainted. I was hoping this would put a total halt FOREVER to underwater drilling. But…profit and business trumps sanity almost every time, eh?

the biggest danger would be to bp's profits: couldn't let that happen to poor ol' bp could we?

What about all of the physicists and engineers who aren't trooffer weenies who think that troofers are microdick wannabees with upturned saucepans on their heads.

It's nice that you can turn a terrible tragedy where thousands were killed and gazillions of dollars worth of property were lost into your little hobby.

He wasn't a “wee tichy” about the definition of the word “is”. Learn about something before you spout off about it.

In the context of that remark Mr. Clinton was being sarcastic, and the situation in question did turn on the definition of the word “is”. The republinazis wanted to change the meaning of the word “is” to include the word “are”.

Hence, the remark. It's about mean dumasses like you trying to change reality to fit their little jerkoff fantasies.

Stupidity and bigotry on your part–key-rist man, give it a rest.

I offer $50 dollars to anyone who can go over Mr. Clinton's sworn testimony and bring to me proof of one lie. No one had ever taken me up on that.

Marc Rich was pardoned from criminal but not civil liability. The criminal law that he was charged with violating was ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court, but charges couldn't be dismissed against him because of the flight. Stupid Catch-22 situation in the Federal law.

There was no wrongdoing there. In the Pelitier case, I believe that the President made a statement about why he didn't pardon Mr. Pelitier.

Two completely separate cases and sets of facts.

Interesting that Scooter Libby was Rich's lawyer and Cheney lobbied Mr. Clinton on Rich's behalf. Then the republinazis turned on the President.

Never trust a repug.

There have been deliberately set fires of the oil in the gulf. The problem is that the flames give off thick black acrid smoke that is itself dangerous, and the flames incinerate sea life.

Evolution hasn't programmed sea life to stay away from oil spills.

You might be some lilly-white LDS roid with a knot tied in your dick, but this guy is no hornier than the average actual man.

Unlike you, who just sucks.

Read the comment before you comment.

Smart guys know how to listen to other smart guys who are in the know.

Do you think that Eisenhower really had a grip on the economy and taxation?

Did you read Mr. Clinton's actual comments, or are you just assuming things?

Spammer scum.

It doesn't have to be a nuke. An explosion needs to be studied so that it doesn't open up 100,000 oil-leaking fractures.

Perhaps reading the words instead of spouting off and showing your ignorance might be a better plan instead of bottom-feeding for hits.

FUCK YOU! You ignorant piece of shit. Bigotry? Blow it out your ass. You don't know me so fuck you again. Bill Clinton IS one colossal lying piece of warmongering genocidal piece of pedophile shit! Oh and by the way you pseudo-intellectual assclown, the word is “dumb ass” so once again, fuck you! Clinton IS a lying freak for lying to a 'grand jury' so blow it out your ass, once again. One should probably bring up the defiling of Monica Lewinski. Oh yeah. Bubba wants to “blow up the DeepWaterHorizonOilLeakingBPMonstrosity” you slimy red-flagging freak! Oh yeah and by the way, I've got your “jerkoff” fantasy right here!
“Stupidity and bigotry?” Yeah ass clown, you tell us all about it.

It does have to be a nuke, to melt the rocks to avoid those fractures, which is why the Russians used them instead of high explosives. You couldn't even read the above article in question where it says the Russians used them five times successfully. And your logic seems to be sorely lacking, else why say it doesn't have to be a nuke. The only thing that would have to be studied is the new bunker busting bombs to see what temperature they reach.

As for spamming, it doesn't apply to political speech, sorry, read the CAN-SPAM Act.
I don't care how many hits I get on my free education sites, it doesn't make me any money, I just put them up as a public service to save you money, since others charge for the same info. all the time. When I do charge for something, I will charge you extra :)

Here's another free site I use to post links to current articles on Obama, over 500 and counting:
http://thehistoryscopersobamawatchblog.blogspot…

6 degrees of separation between politcal parties … that is an interesting fact connecting repugs & dums doing their little political dance.

you're probably right about the finer points of the differences between the cases, but i was looking at the cases from the viewpoint of marc being actually guilty and peltier is not quilty, and you can disagree with me because it's my personal opinion from reading information regarding the peltier case

Give it a shot, please be patient and listen to his way to stop the leak. LETS DO IT!

Thank you for proving my points.

Thank you for proving all of my points about you.

Please explain to me and the class how a person can be guilty of committing a crime when the law he was charged with violating NEVER EXISTED.

As far as Peltier, the guy seems to be his own worst enemy. The guy is kind of an a-hole. If he had been willing to do what he needed to do-tell the absolute truth about everything, he might have had a chance. Instead, he files all kinds of lawsuits over legal technicalities.

An interesting point about pardons: you lose your right against self-incrimination. Meaning, if Peltier was pardoned and was later subpoenaed to testify anywhere, he would have to answer truthfully any question put to him or face perjury charges.

The Rich pardon was the right thing to do-his situation was about a weird loophole in the law that would have required him to go to jail in the US if he returned, to be later set free because he can't be tried under a law that technically never existed. He could be tried for fleeing, but it's a bit of an injustice to charge someone with a crime when the crime was fleeing injustice.

(Disclaimer-I'm pretty sure I met Peltier once, and if he's the guy I am thinking of, he was a real creep. I also knew Banks and Means a little bit. Banks was OK, and Means was a great guy when he wasn't drinking. He later stopped drinking.)

It's just like chocolate milk, and who doesn't like chocolate milk?

LIBERALS, that's who!

By the way, you mention the impeachment. There is an old saying, never go to trial with a case you know you can't win. One of the house prosecutors who argued the impeachment before the Senate was once an LADA prosecutor. There was a murder case where the scientific evidence fell apart on the eve of trial.

Instead of dismissing the charges without prejudice, so they could later be refiled if new evidence came to light, this yutz decided to go ahead with the trial. Acquitted, of course.

Two years later a new lab test came out which proved the defendant did the murder. Double jeopardy was attached, and the guilty guy went free.

Somehow, this creep prosecutor got elected to Congress. He was voted out in the election after the BS “impeachment”.

The Titanic was built to carry 64 life boats, plus several other collapsible emergency life boats.

A guy in a suit, Bruce “Brute” Ismay, didn't like the looks of all of those boats, so he ordered that all but 16 of the boats be taken off the ship. It was perfectly legal for the Titanic to carry only 16 life boats under British law at the time.

What could go wrong?

Here we are today with the suits at BP and the other for-profit companies involved in this debacle.

Blowout preventer? Yes, we have one of those! Is it fully functional? Does the law say it has to be fully functional?

WTF? This is wrong on so many levels.

Who is this we business Bill? You got a hooker in your pocket?

Fuck profits. FIX IT.

Leave Bill alone! We should be cloning Bill and having him be our president over an over again, maybe with Ron Paul as his VP. I'd say Bill has more integrity than the Bush's and Obama put together, even considering the BJ scandal.

This might sound pretty lame on my part, but I posted a suggestion on the White House site to drill a hole near the well head and pack it with explosives to crimp the piping below ground and stem the flow. I figured it was lame on more than one level such as sending an idea to the White House site, the idea in general, and that something that simple hadn't been thought of already. What I didn't consider is that anyone would be so diabolical that a leak would be allowed to flow for weeks and now months, destroying life, livings and an entire coast line purely in the name of profit. Some people need to go to prison. This is a crime against humanity and all life on this planet. The love of money is the root of all evil.

Bubba-crats, you simply can't do nothin' with 'em. You drank the Bubba koolaid didn't you. I would apologize for losing my temper. You started it chumpy.
You do not know me. You would come to conclusions for semi-comedic remarks about the Bubba and that would speak volumes about “proving points.”
Bubba will always and forever be known for Kosovo. Wars of naked aggression will always and forever be only that. Bubba is a war criminal. Period. But so would be G. Bush, T. Blair, and even America's current “chosen” Obama Caesar.
Thank you for proving the point that there is simply nothing can be done with the Bubba-crats.

Do you people not know that Clinton was a road scholar … he is not the stupid man everyone portays him as being — he was given bad advise by his attorneys in the BJ scandal, which shouldn't have even been a news report, let alone a scandale — do you kow that we spent more money investigating Clinton's penis than we did 911? You so called conservatives have nothing but smutt on your minds, yet preach the Bible to everyone!!!

Thank you for reproving my points.

Clinton wants the Shuttle Commander to nuke the well. We have to duct tape him.

OH didn't i make fun of your corrupt politician, me so sorry

The BJ thing was personal and had nothing to do with the politics.
He should've told everyone “screw you..none of your business”

i put together list of website sources i used to come to my conclusion and i’ll list three here

http://www.noaa.gov/
http://geology.com/
http://www.usgs.gov/

otherwise tell me exactly what you have a problem with or the website source you used and i will gladly list other sites i’ve used for information on a case by case basis

If explosives were planted and discharged below the ocean floor next to the drill pipe in a section of dense geology it would be very likely to collapse and shut off the flow of oil.

If this procedure didn't work the relief wells could still be drilled into the well pipe at a deeper level. The explosives option wouldn't end the relief well option.

[...] Bill Clinton: ‘We May Have to Blow Up the Well’ — Little noticed comments from former President Bill Clinton over the weekend which he made in South Africa are perhaps — well — a bit explosive. [...]

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