And cut off all foreign aid to misadventures in Israel, Pakistan, Egypt, Yemen & Greece while you're at it. We shouldn't be arming them with our money.

What a stunning grasp of the obvious. Damn shame that the wingnuts believe all of the propaganda….

This is raw Imperialism at it's worst. Total veiling of the truth; the Pentagon knows the situation in Afganistan is “unwinable.” They know to keep their lavish salaries and big dick fantasies, they need to keep a “war” propped up with the bullshit of “trillions in mining assets” and “stopping terrorism. The US is the greatest terrorist organization the world has ever known, and let us hope, will never be seen again. We have over 750 bases, large and small, around the globe. We are a global empire, desperate, for some reason, to keep things that way.

Sharing brings Justice, Justice brings Peace, Peace brings enlightenment and evolution.

Lies about everything else, too, from resluglicons. Every war since and including the Spanish-American War has been about US empire. Period. Now, that's okay since we had to compete with every other nation. But I, for one, am sick of being lied to about the reasons, and then stuck with the bill while corporations make boatloads of money.

I wish a president would say, “We're invading (fill in the blank) so we get their natural resources instead of someone else getting them. This way, we'll make money and lower taxes for those who survive the war.”

Anyone with a snippet of history and geography would find it immediately obvious that ANY war in Again-and-Aganistan would be only meant to be sustained for as long as possible. There is no win. There is only kill, spend, use, replenish, rearm, rinse, repeat.

We have those bases, in part, because of Posse Commitatus. It hides the size of our true and permanant standing army, which is ready to secure the 'Homeland' if the people ever awake.

. . . especially when they attack us openly and admittedly.

Thank you Dennis.!

Kucinich: ‘We are losing our nation to lies about the necessity of war [and the terrorist attacks of September 11th, the Anthrax Attacks, and the integrity of our Election System]’

Same as Vietnam.

A losing, or ummmm winning formula.

Terrible. It's business as usual for USA. Just like we did in Chili and many other countries.

We are losing our nation to lies about money.

War is a racket. Racketeers make money.

Kucinich is just another liar.

I'm sick of the liars: Obama, Ron Paul, Kucinich, fill in the blank…

Our nation was lost when JFK was assassinated with impunity by the behind-the-scenes international bankster Zio-mafia who've since only become more deeply entrenched worldwide.

Is Zbrezinski admitting something here? What about that Ziocon John Yoo who enjoys torture?

“The central challenge of our time is posed not by global terrorism, but rather by the intensifying turbulence caused by the phenomenon of global political awakening. That awakening is socially massive and politically radicalizing.”
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2010/06/powers-t…

The elite are terrified of the New World Order crumbling…….Gee, lets not dissapoint them!

It is not just Afghanistan that matters, all the oil wealth of ex-russian states: Israel is to keep oil flowing from Arabs: Pakistan to keep control on minerals and China, Yemen and greece are for Arab control. If the politicians listened to you, we will get restricted to north America only!!!

You better hope all those military nut cases (some who have been in the Middle East for the past 10 years) never come back here to live. Can you imagine what it would be like if every police department in the country got staffed up with those phycho killers?

In case you (as Kucinich, apparently) think we are not already completely lost, I refer you to the upcoming war on Iran.

May go all the way back to Lincoln

i wish it were only republicans, but listening to obomber talk about afghanistan i heard the same phoney rationales used by the chimp, disgusting!

Which political party will you vote for in November?
AIPAC, CFR, Trilateral Commission, Big Oil, Banksters, Gun Grabbers, Bilderbergs, Carbon Taxers, Oath of Office Breakers, State Secret Abusers.

How will you vote?
Via broken chain of custody via electronic vote tabulation devices?
Via broken chain of custody via officials exploiting their office?
Via broken chain of custody via mail in?

How will you support your candidate?
Via your bankrupt bank?
Via your 201K?
Via your (poop in a shoebox) CDS?
Via your imaginary job?
Via one credit card which you pay off with another credit card?

How are you going to hold officials accountable?
After they break their oath?
After they pass ” one more ” unconstitutional malicious law?
Sue them after the damage is done and nothing to be recovered?
From the grave?

Shall we talk health?
Eugenics?
CDC , WHO, lies and poisonous vaccines?
Codex tampering?
Forced Insurance tied to IRS?

We are losing our nation because there is no accountability, and all these forces want us dead.

Yaah! the bad guys(ranking officials and their associates in President Hamid Karzai's administration, including Vice President Mohammed Fahim, and one of the president's brothers, Mahmood Karzai, an influential businessman).
are the real crooks running Afghastan but not Americans looting the aid system.
Ever heard Dennis complain about the trillion$ of USA tax payers dollars being boat load shipped into }srael blood suckers? Oh! NO!
I got news for you,The Demoos are using Dennis to blame the A'fags for the mess and not themselves for supporting Bush and the Kosher lies *****ARABS did 911******** YaaaH! Pure nonsense, Kosher Money making tool–Bribery to keep the invasion going and make lots and lots of money. Notice how many bloodline Ashkenazies have infested every important aspect of Governtment/Media in NATO :^/

And he is absolutely right. Let the countrys over there take care of this. Lets see how serious muslims are about peace

I make this prediction for Afghanistan's future; I see open pit mines and mountaintop removal, with US troops guarding the pits. American interests they will call it. The copper will be mined by the same monopoly that has brought us leaps in copper wire pricing in recent years, which are not American based companies. Battles will flare up regularly between the security forces and the unemployed Afghans who won't get a nickel from the deal. The ore will be trucked to some friendlier environment. You will continue to pay for guarding it. Then you will pay again when you buy wire from the monopoly. Environmentalists will be collateral damage. It will be said that by objecting they are aiding terrorists, and blackwater will simply gun them down.

So the cowardly opportunist waits until “the people” start getting sick and tired of the Afghanistan quagmire before opening his mouth and stating what's been obvious since this madness began?

And “corruption? U.S. CONgressmen (& women) are going to disparage someone else for “corruption”? That's rich!

They launch an illegal, immoral war of aggression against a country that did nothing to the U.S. (i.e., they do mass murder), install a puppet government full of opportunistic sociopaths just like them, and then they expect what? They expect Mister Rogers' neighborhood to spring up? They expect goodness to come from evil?

So the cowardly opportunist waits until “the people” start getting sick and tired of the Afghanistan quagmire before opening his mouth and stating what's been obvious since this madness began?

And “corruption? U.S. CONgressmen (& women) are going to disparage someone else for “corruption”? That's rich!

They launch an illegal, immoral war of aggression against a country that did nothing to the U.S. (i.e., they do mass murder), install a puppet government full of opportunistic sociopaths just like them, and then they expect what? They expect Mister Rogers' neighborhood to spring up? They expect goodness to come from evil?

Where have YOU been?! Kucinich has been railing against these illegal wars for years!

Where have YOU been?! Kucinich has been railing against these illegal wars for years!

“Losing our nation to lies…”??? Really? Judas H. Priest, we've lost our nation already. Kucinich spouts off the obvious. Way to go Denny! Are you ever about a day late and several trillion dollars short.
Our most recent “lies” started about September 12, 2001 and continue unabated to date. Lies, bulls*@t, deficit spending, bailouts, corrupt and greasy congress-creepers, and Stan 'the mad bomber man' McChrystal. Just gets better by the freaking minute.
Won't things get wondrous with a war on Iran. You know, about all anyone can do now is spit. Spit in the general direction of Babylon-On-The-Potomac and don't hold your breath.

Absolutely! Stop Bush's wars. They were conjured up as part of a neocon scheme. They need to be ended for that reason alone.

Kucinich is not late. . . you just haven't been paying attention long enough. He called for an investigation into 9-11 and when it was obvious that investigation was a cover-up he called for another more independent one. He voted NO on the Patriot Act. Why? Because “he read it”. He voted NO on all the wars. He hit the streets BEFORE the War in Iraq telling people it was all about oil and for the people to do what they could to convince their senators and congressmen not to go to war. He's one of the few politicians who will actually stand up to the ridicule that comes with being a man of integrity and conscience.

I may not agree with everything Dennis Kucinich believes in but I highly respect the man's courage and conviction.

I know that Kucinich is better than most of his even more corrupt colleagues, but didn't he vote in favor of making war on Afghanistan?

Wasn't he also supposed to hold some kind of inquiry into 9/11 that never happened?

No. Kucinich has been voting to end the war funding since the beginning.

Want to know what Dennis stands for (and against)? http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?ca…

Also, he has been looking into the real perpetrators of 9-11 but he's only one man. I'm sure he'd appreciate having volunteers to help out. He's got his hands in quite a few cookie jars right now.

The war MUST continue. Take Vietnam as an example. We were there to stop the threat of communism. Once we pulled out American boys stopped dying but Vietnam, now no longer in a state of war was able, to rebuild and today are a threat to America by being able to…to…to…Ok give a some time to get back to you on this one but do you want the same thing to happen with Iraq and Afghanistan?

I see Dennis still has his tinfoil hat on.
No Denny, we're losing our nation to the marxism of the OBambi administration.
He and his merry band of meglomaniacs are killing us.

Remember in November
http://RightWingStuff.com

If we took the money from these illegal occupations of sovereign nations, and gave it to 1/2 of unemployed Americans to do nothing but “dig” holes every other day and then gave the other half to unemployed Americans to fill the holes up on the other days, we would start to get out of this “deflation”, errr, depression.

Here we go again. . . Obama is not a Marxist. Marx believed that one day the masses would rise up and take back their power. They would wrest all the property from the power elite and return it to the people. People, in the form of co-ops and employee owned businesses, would then control the means of production themselves. Now, if you can show me just one time that Obama has given control of anything to the American people then I'll admit that he might have read Marx at one time.

“The American people are paying to prop up a corrupt government that may be using our money to pay private companies to drum up business by paying the insurgents to attack our troops”</> What a breath of fresh air. A politician who actually tells the damn truth.
Thank You Mr. Kucinch

Meanwhile the oil companies continue to make record profits.

I see it more like this:
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/cutting-throug…

I see nothing wrong with Americans staying in America. All the rest of this is to fulfill gluttony and greed, and it's costing hundreds of thousands of lives and destroying the planet.

You're describing an Empire. The U.S. is Empire Building. And to do that, you must oppress all kinds of people. So much for a founding principle of innate freedom and right to pursue happiness by “all men”. Apparently the modern American mindset is to be just like the oppressors we fought to gain our own freedom.

And the right-wing morons out there wonder why they [the "terrorists"] hate us. Perhaps it's because we're abusive oppressors destroying their nations for our own greed and gluttony? It has nothing to do with our “freedom” and everything to do with our “actions”.

Pull out of the Empire Building wars NOW.

How do you count Kucinich in with war mongering shitballs? He's out there trying to tell the TRUTH about all of those things. He is stating the same position you are, and you call him a liar? What's wrong with you?

haha thanks for responding with your silly little names like OBambi, trying to group things for simpletons is going to work anymore. Educate yourself with things other than television and one paper or news article, read, research, read foreign newspapers with other views, travel. The US is not the center of the frickin Universe.

I hope you Obama fans are happy… you didn't want a real change with Kucinich because it would have made you look weak, or whatever lie you believed. Now look what you've brought us: Bush with a smile and the ability to pronounce “nuclear”, the ability to joke about killing civilians with drones, the lies about Iran, and you're ok with it because you think it's either/or.

You Obama fans deserve authoritarian tyranny, GMO-pushing Monsanto lobbyists running the Dept. of Ag. etc. etc.

Note: how they pretend Obama is an adversary of the Israeli regime… HA! Hillary openly lusts after Persian blood. You still like them both, don't you, you bandwagon joiner?

Why do people dis this Dennis Kucinich. I see people bitch and moan on this sight every day and Kucinich is one of the precious few “PUBLIC SERVANTS” that gets up and tells the truth and people make dumb ass remarks about “tinfoil hats”.

Do you dispute the fact that we flew 3 KC-130s filled with cash to Iraq? Do you dispute the fact that we are not fighting an army or a country or an organization in either Iraq or Afghanistan, but in fact are fighting mercenaries from all over the muslim world?

Kucinich has repeatedly hit the nail on the head and I'm not from Ohio or a huge Kucinich fan. About the “botch” administration, Haliburton, no-bid contracts, Iraq, Afghanistan you name it and this guy was not only dead on but most of the time was one of the few who had the balls to say anything.

So on behalf of one of the few Americans left in Washington. STFU

Jasper, are you the master tin-hatter or what? Marxism? Do you even know what the f•ck you are talking about? People such as yourself, the high school dropouts and tub-o-butter eaters whose women look like small bungalows, need to get your heads out of your asses and do some homework. Just because there's military involved does not mean the Pentagon gets to make policy. The Pentagon is the largest single budget item, the largest. It's absurd, in this economy, that we waste hundreds of billions of dollars on some other country that cannot harm us in any way, but our own people suffer. Go shove that up your fascist ass.

Not “losing”. “Lost”.

“Bush with a smile”.

Ain't that the truth.

Kucinich is not part of the “they” you speak of. He's been against both illegal invasions since before they started.

while most of congress is corrupted, a few people remain true to their oath. Dennis is most definitely one of the good guys.

My god you people are the most uneducated on the planet. Marxism? You are too stupid to educate

And, yeah, feel free to blather about November. Have you checked the demographics in America lately? WhatEVER happens in Nov., it really doesn't matter as the RIght is DOA.

Couldn't agree more.

Education is something the Baggers eschew. Boy are they in for a shock in November.

Studies have shown that right-wingers don't value true fairness and decency and honesty. They only value things that benefit them, not the group. You're not team players, you don't give a shit about anyone but yourself and what you can wrench from everyone else. You're selfish, greedy, abusive, and the full embodiment of what's wrong with our species. You're all that is lacking in humanity, an anchor holding our species back from moving on toward great things, great peace, great prosperity for ALL.

If every right-winger on the planet died yesterday, today would be the first day humanity was able to move forward with real meaning and purpose. As it is, you regressive morons keep killing and looting and raping and pillaging. Sad.

This war is nothing like viet nam. Not even close. In viet nam we were actually fighting a REAL army with a REAL flag, and a REAL leader, from a REAL country. We supposedly went to Iraq to liberate them… We had already destroyed Iraqs military less than 10 yrs earlier, so they were no threat to ANYONE. Instead of “liberating” them. We killed a hundred thousand + civilians, then helped steal their oil, and no occupy the country. We have been told by EVERYBODY we are fighting Al Queda. There IS NO DAMN Al Queda. I will again challenge ANYONE to post on this forum. An Al Queda flag, an Al Queda, uniform, an Al Queda, tank, an Al Queda air craft, an Al Queda, helicopter, an Al Queda officer hell…. post a picture of an Al Queda camel. THEY DON'T EXIST. Shouldn't that tell you something about what the hell is going on?

These mercenaries we actually are fighting have been fighting with each other and their neighbors for hundreds of years longer than the United States has been a freakin country. In fact the arbitrary lines drawn across that region that make up the countries we call Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran were not drawn by the people that live there but by other countries TELLING THEM where the lines would go.

And as far as Iraq and Afghanistan “going back” to what they had been? They never left. These people live and fight the same way they have done for 100s of years. They don't have states, and counties, and judges, and law enforcement. This is the wild wild west on camels. These people will stone their wives to death in public because they “THINK” they might have been unfaithful. And nobody will even raise a hand to stop it. They will break the arms and cut off the fingers of children accused of stealing…. They punish first and don't even bother to get the evidence later. Just what the hell do think we are going to do to change that?

Vietnam is now ordering eight, new, Boeing 787 Dreamliners. Yeah, it was really worth the deaths of 59,000 US soldiers to stop this horrible “communism”. Vietnam is doing great. The US is falling further behind because we waste our treasure on insipid, meaningless, (but lucrative for the Military-Industrial Complex) missions to fight the world. We have become the most corrupt first-world country on the planet.

Standing ovation for Kucinich . . . one of the few with the guts to try to tell us the truth.

Most people here aren't Obama “fans”.. and most that voted for him didn't even know Kucinich was in the running… because the MSM in cahoots with the DNC blocked Dennis from the national stage early on.

You're screeching at “us” here, but we're not the crowd you need to be addressing. In fact, your abusive tone is insulting to all of us who've been clamoring over this for years now.

You seem to understand that there is a huge, powerful, hidden force manipulating the general moron public.. so why are you here lambasting people who see what's really happening? Why are you assaulting like minded people?

Do you know of anyone else that even bothers to tell the truth in Washington? Late or otherwise.

This is the first time anyone has made the claim that we are fighting mercenaries paid for with our own tax dollars. Do you have any idea how many people still think we invaded Iraq because of 911? What kucinich is saying isn't old news. Its unprosecuted crimes.

Great point. If the Domino Theory hadn't been a bucket of lies, Australia woudl now be crawling witt folks in black pajamas. The astouding thing in the Vietnamese have pretty much forgiven us for killing 2,000,000 and dropping 20,000,000 bombs on the,

The Afghans thought the Soviets were bad. Wait til they get a load of mountaintop mining without an EPA. Their country will be an ash heap by the time we get done . . .

Because too frickin' stupid wars are just not enough . . .

Go “youtube” Kucinich. Watch about 30 hours of this guy in public and in congress repeatedly telling the truth about things that most politicians won't touch. Some of the same things you are bitching about…..Then come back and delete your dumbass post.

You bitch because nobody does anything and bitch when they do…. STFU

The point Kucinich was making is that there is proof that some of the billions we sent over to Iraq IN CASH. is being used to hire mercenaries to fight the our troops. The significance of that is……….if you follow that thread far enough….eventually you will find out THOSE ARE THE ONLY people we are fighting… mercenaries from all over… not just Iraq and Afghanistan, but from under ever rock and cave all over that region. And they are being paid with our own damn money. I'm not seeing where that isn't worthy of outrage.

If you're not an Obama fan, then my comment isn't directed at you.

Iraq and Afghanistan a privatized war costing Trillions. If this war wasn't going to be privatized there would be no war.

do you have foam coming out of your mouth? Are you thirsty a lot?

Haven't we done bought this “imminent” threat bullshit once already….

And to make matters worse… You are an idiot

Idiot! ( and NOT the SAVANT kind)

…and NOT the SAVANT kind of IDIOT!

And?

And Dennis?

And?

So?

So Dennis?

Fucking SO???

The way to end the fraudulent “war on terror” is to investigate 9/11 and expose the lies and the treason that underlie it. Kucinich was supposed to hold hearings on the 9/11 insider put options, but he never did. Why?

As far as I'm concerned, all we've ever really gotten from him is lip service.

So you don't believe we flew billions of cash to iraq and then lost most of it? Or are you just posting out your ass without doing any research what so ever to see if there is any truth to Kucinichs claim…?

And without doing any research you've concluded he and people than believe him are wing nuts?

And that makes you what then? ? ? A jack ass?

Thank you Dennis. The truth hurts.

Yo, usmcr, how about if you STFU. Kucinich is all talk. His actions and/or inactions speak louder than his words.

Here's his name on a list of those who voted for war:
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2001/roll342.xml

When he was a Presidential candidate (Democratic primary), he gave a lot of lip service to “9/11 truth” but what happened to the hearings he was supposed to hold on the 9/11 put options?

He built up everyone's hopes that he'd look into at least certain aspects of what happened on 9/11/2001, which, as Chairman of the House Subcommittee on Domestic Policy, instead he did NOTHING, and gave no explanation.

He's a pragmatist and an opportunist.

And, if instead of digging holes, we had them actually build and repair things like parks, roads, bridges, schools, we'd end up with employed people who could pay taxes and buy things,as well as, something to show for the money.

He is also one of few that has openly stated the “botch” administration lied to congress. Which at this point everyone including GW Botch himself has admitted to. The only one that still hangs on to the bullshit story about a connection between iraq and osmab bin laden is Darth Cheney.

As the truth became increasingly obvious Kucinich has increasingly and repeatedly had the balls to tell the truth.

He can't change washington by himself. But that hasn't stopped him from continuing to try to tell the American people the truth about Iraq, and Afghanistan. We sure as hell aren't going to hear it from the news or anyone else.

You do realize he's one person, and doesn't make policy or get to make demands in our current system.. right? He can seek to have hearings, but it's not up to him alone. Those with vested interest in keeping this quiet, not to mention the obstructionist right-wing in general, are making sure no one.. NO ONE.. gets to “officially” discuss this matter. The media plays their part, too, by smearing anyone that opens their mouth or makes too much noise about it.

Face it. The Oligarchs are fully in control. Stop blaming Kucinich for being one man standing virtually alone in Congress trying to do the right thing. There are a LOT of people perfectly happy with the way things currently run; they get damn rich from it. You'll note Kucinich isn't one of those getting rich from the currently rigged system.

As a point of note, Kucinich proposes bill after bill to address these issues, those bills get shut down. There's _nothing_ he can do about that.

That is why I want the US troops out NOW!!!

All those shrink-wrapped bundles of crisp, new $100 bills on palates so heavy they need forklifts…

Making money is the purpose of this war. Exit was never considered.

No-one going back to Genghis Khan, has ever held Afghanistan. The country has been conquered, but the Afghan people just take it back after a year or so. I can't figure out why our leaders apparently don't read history.

As the Chairman of the House Subcommittee on Domestic Policy, he should have the authority to hold hearings on the 9/11 put options, as he said he was going to do.

If something is stopping him, then let's hear about it from him. He'd have lots of public support. Instead what we get is a deafening silence. I'm sorry but there's simply no excuse for that.

Those of us who actually understand what's happening to our country realize that we're being destroyed. The people who actually are responsible for 9/11 are madmen who intend to sacrifice what's left of the U.S. on the altar of militant Zionism. This is no time to play “politics”.

What Kucinich says is the truth and the wing nuts would die before admitting Kucinich, let alone a Democrat, would be telling the truth. Most of the right wingers still believe Iraq had something to do with 9/11. We did “lose” billions in Iraq just like we are in Afghanistan. If a child of mine died in either of these wars the hatred and contempt I would have for bush/cheney and all their war profiteers would be overwhelming for me to contain. If I was a parent who lost my child in these wars and had money I would do everything in my power to destroy everyone involved, but I have none, I'm not a war profiteer Why any of the criminals are running loose is beyond me. They are laughing all the way to the bank. Does anyone involved REALLY care about the death and destruction that has taken place? Does anyone involved ever THINK about the pain they have caused? Of course not! It is collateral damage to them. We have war criminals walking the streets of this country thumbing their noses at the world and what does our government do? Continue on with the same policies. It continues on taking our money to give to extortionists. Why don't we cut out the middle guy. Bring our troops home and just send the war profiteers fat checks and stop the slaughter of our sons and daughters. We maybe broke but we would at least have our loved ones.

Hey Dennis, over here boy. We are not “losing our nation to lies about the necessity of war”, that's wrong buddy. Say it like this so you don't look like an idiot ; “we have lost our nation to lies about the necessity of war” See, now it makes sense in light of reality. Glad I could help.

“To authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against those responsible for the recent attacks (9-11) launched against the United States.”

If he had voted against this, he wouldn't be in congress anymore. Call him a pragmatist or opportunist if you will, but who would be there to even mention these things if not Kucinich?

Some people are just too much. Politicians who don't compromise at least a bit don't last. Kucinich is the most honest and faithful politician in the entire congress, and it's not enough for you? He's played the game and maintained his integrity better than any other congressperson and it's not enough? What do you think he could do differently?

blackmail, death threats, character assassination, political prosecution, etc.

I don't need to hear it from anyone; it's happening. It's happened.

“If something is stopping him, then let's hear about it from him. He'd have lots of public support. Instead what we get is a deafening silence. I'm sorry but there's simply no excuse for that.”

Unfortunately, I can't disagree with you on this. Perhaps you could write him and ask him why he dropped the ball on this. I'd like to know too.

It's possible that he read the “official report”, and found out that the SEC destroyed all the put option records preventing any real data gathering. If there is nothing to discover (destroyed), why have the hearing? .. that's not a very good excuse, mind you, and there are other options I'd think.. but if there are no records any longer, it makes it hard to investigate. Who do you call in if there are no records?

Perhaps conspiraseer is a disinfo agent (knowingly unknowingly) sent to disrupt the flow of valuable comments through the use of the divide and conquer methodology.

There's no reason whatsoever to reference Obama fans in this thread unless you're looking to ruffle feathers of the less intelligent.

Lol, and speaking of less intelligence… I voted for Obama.

Probably the last “vote” I'll cast as an American. I was duped, but part of the duping process was necessary to wake me up to the fact that the whole two party system is a scam against us.

I cast my vote to end war and rebuild our country and look where we are. What's my recourse? Wait another 4 years and try again… Truck that! I've got a life to live and all they're doing is trucking it up…

So now I know and I'm better off for it.

Folks who get excited about Dennis or Ron ought to realize that they are only here to keep those who've lost interest, interested.

We always think the next guy is going to be the one. We need to come together and see the next one is only the next cog in the wheel they put in place to feed us the pablum…

Isn't it interesting that both sides are already prepared just in case they need a puppet we still may fall for?

While we sit and watch these idiots play politics our societies crumble, our economies are collapsing and we're destroying the only place we know of that supports the biological meat suits in which we currently find ourselves deployed.

Sad really… It only takes a change of heart to change everything. Some just have too myopic a perception due to the programming they've been exposed to.

The hundredth monkey is out there Savantster, we'll just have to keep on keeping on until we find him or her.

The real 9/11 criminals fully intend to destroy us. If someone's been compromised and is being blackmailed, then they need to step down. As far as death threats…well so what? The whole country is under a death threat. It's only a matter of time before the madmen start WW3. What could be worse than that?

The sad thing is, come November Americans will continue to vote Republican to throw out the Democrats and/or vote Democrat to throw out the Republicans and wonder, “Why doesn't anything ever change in Washington?” It never changes because because people don't want to “waste their vote” on a third party candidate, so they waste it on known criminals. What a bunch of fools and suckers. Enjoy your “jobless recovery” while your “representatives” sell you and your country out.

Congresswoman Barbara Lee voted against it. She knew it was B.S. right from the beginning and she voted her conscience. And guess what, she's still in Congress.

Good point.

Though California 9th district is not Ohio. Different situations….

I don't agree with Kucinich's vote there, but from what I know about him, I trust that he had his reasons for doing so. Other than this, I've never noticed his voting record to be opposed to what I would have done. I think he is a valuable voice in the congress. We are lucky to have him, IMO.

I wish Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul would join forces to get us out of Aghanistan.

I wish Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul would work together to bring an end to our Afghanistan campaign.

They will be in for a shock. I don't think the normal changing of the guard in the Senate will happen this time.

I think you are right for ordinary American citizen, but
[1] How would we rule over the world
[2] How will we show our force
[3] How the money men will be richer than they are now
[4] How can USA supply billions of dollars to Israel, Egypt and other such parasites

Don't forget Alan Grayson. Kucinich & Grayson are our best hopes.
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Micah CHAP., 7 V.S. 3:

GMW:
The rulers of this age, and politicians, Both . Their hands both left and right skilled in doing evil deeds. The Officials ask for gifts, and Favors. and the Judges accept bribes. Powerful people, the people of money, dictate what they want. And So they all scheme together. (they oppress the poor and the fatherless, and those who have had no advantage.)

KJV:_King James Bible
That they may do evil with both hands earnestly, the prince asketh, and the judge asketh for a reward; and the great man, he uttereth his mischievous desire: so they wrap it up.

They will all come to the same end.

We have allowed the evil intentions of others to dictate what is right. Now we are receiving in our own land the consequences for not standing up for righteousness and justice. since we showed no mercy we will have no mercy. Since we did not stand up for right doing we will have no right doing. Wickedness has been allowed so wickedness will come upon us. And the people will continue to do wickedly. Selfishness and self promotion, Selling out the country is the lest of our worries. Man will come to his fullness.

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Kucinich is right but not totally. I will even add one more thing that in Pakistan suicide bombers have been trained by Black water and RAW and Mossaad to destablise Pakistan. As the people in this region are very poor they come to Karachi for hard work to finance the families. If they 5000 dollars from CIA they will do every thing even to loose their life.
The same story is in Afghanistan they are being purchased for their interest.
Even so called 3.9 billion aid 80% will be spend for americans. Americans lie every where.
This is sad story lies will vanish and have no groung and truth will prevail and human beings will be killed for their interest.

Endless war!! YAY!! so we are only 26 years late..but 1984 none the less. Now citizen, get back to paying your taxes, muahahahahaha.

Stop BOTH wars NOW. Cut military spending at least by half and reduce the deficit without putting more Americans out of work.

This is dumb. This war isn't going anywhere, nothing is being achieved. It's been what, over 7 years and I have not seen one good thing happen from this war.

“War is not merely a political act, but also a political instrument, a continuation of political relations, a carrying out of the same by other means,” Carl von Clausewitz

If there was no money to be made , America and the UK would not be involved, both have spiralling deficits, yet they are involved in two armed conflicts, neither of which threaten their borders and perversely may cause more harm by encouraging terrorist acts, than to stop them. If neither country had oil or mineral deposits, do you think there would be a war. There are plenty of despots in the world, Sudan to name one, however there have no oil or minerals, so they are permitted to carry on persecuting their own people.

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