gee, it's only been known to Alex Jones' InfoWars.com readers and subscribers for over 5 yrs.

better late than never, I suppose.

Fuck you, Barack Obama. You are a madman.

Cyberwar,is this like that other war?You know,the war on Drugs.They got some balls to name,or call it big brother.What's up with all the cold war crap.

cyber war is a very clear danger to us. Unfortunately there is no need to monitor the civilian population other than when they hit the defenses of our infrastructure. I have read that there are more than 1 million hits a day our governmental computer systems. They should be spending the money to shore up things like our power systems and defending all of our infrastructure. I do not believe for an instant that the danger to us is exaggerated.

it is no big thing for the government to detect and track people who are hitting our defenses. It is not necessary to monitor the civilian population as I said before. The only part of the Internet that needs to be shut down is that which has been attacked.

Many people don't realize that our electrical systems could be shut down, compromised and even damaged through the Internet. That's just part of our infrastructure that would cause us incredible problems.

For those blaming just Obama
“program launched by the Bush administration in January, 2008, and continued under the Obama administration. ”
Let's blame all of the people involved

God or no, these psychopaths are going to ensure Armageddon happens. I really hope there does end up being a God to bail us out. Somehow I doubt it.

“Perfect Citizen” quite accurately describes what one should be like if one is being watched everywhere. If you have to act perfect, you must limit your thinking to assure your behavior. There is no exaggeration in the naming.

“Perfect Citizen” quite accurately describes what one should be like if one is being watched everywhere. If you have to act perfect, you must limit your thinking to assure your behavior. There is no exaggeration in the naming.

i think my paranoia has turned into reality … wall street journal must be having a slow news day, and blackwater (or xe) will probably change their name to “data 'R' u$” to take advantage of all that 'money to be made' new business franchises, beside blackwater probably has 98% of the data already stored in off site and prince will probably run it from dubai

i think my paranoia has turned into reality … wall street journal must be having a slow news day, and blackwater (or xe) will probably change their name to “data 'R' u$” to take advantage of all that 'money to be made' new business franchises, beside blackwater probably has 98% of the data already stored in off site and prince will probably run it from dubai

Budgeted and planned under Bush. Christ, I'm surprised you didn't mention Clinton as well.

Should have just dropped the bomb back in the day like Randy Newman proposed.

No one likes us-I don't know why
We may not be perfect, but heaven knows we try
But all around, even our old friends put us down
Let's drop the big one and see what happens

We give them money-but are they grateful?
No, they're spiteful and they're hateful
They don't respect us-so let's surprise them
We'll drop the big one and pulverize them

Asia's crowded and Europe's too old
Africa is far too hot
And Canada's too cold
And South America stole our name
Let's drop the big one
There'll be no one left to blame us

We'll save Australia
Don't wanna hurt no kangaroo
We'll build an All American amusement park there
They got surfin', too

Boom goes London and boom Paris
More room for you and more room for me
And every city the whole world round
Will just be another American town
Oh, how peaceful it will be
We'll set everybody free
You'll wear a Japanese kimono babe
And there'll be Italian shoes for me

They all hate us anyhow
So let's drop the big one now
Let's drop the big one now

Hello Winston . — Orwell saw it coming .

No different than the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Look what you've become.

Obama is a charade, but I'm curious, did you protest so loudly when Bush was doing all this stuff? Illegal wiretaps and the like?

Yes, still do.

i thought the same thing, well articulated.

hey! its all a conspiracy theory until i hear it on MSNBC or in the NYT. them's the rules.

ha yea. All those paranoid nutcases werent so paranoid now were they?

They should be monitoring BP because no single person could do that kind of damage.

Check out Choice Point. They are in the DNA database shell game.

No shit, right? When the crazy loonies speak of your rights being taken away, are they still nuts when it all comes true? AJ is a sensationalist, but damn, you can't deny how spot on he and especially some of his guests have been, ahem, Gerald Celente.

I enjoi yer sarcazzm.

Political Science—-A fave of H.P. Loathecraft's since '72…

I honestly don't believe the sheep will ever wake up. …..even when they are able to smell the burning stench of their neighbors in the ovens.

I'm starting to feel the same. Arizona is definitely going to be burning. SO many idiots and morons in this state, I feel like I'm in one big insane asylum.

I'm guessing “Perfect Citizen” will have at least one 'back door'.

Once again, President Eisenhower's warning about a Military-Industrial Complex seems to have been accurate. One of the defining characteristics of a national socialist government (fascism) is the strong link between industry and the military, with big money in the balance. Ike knew! Republicans used to be very different. Instead of lionizing Reagan, they should look to Ike.

They will never be able to control this technology. The government created DARPANet, and now, like Frankenstein's monster, it has grown out of their control.

They will never control this medium. The government created DARPAnet, but, like Frankenstein's monster, it has grown out of their control. And now it threatens them.

ABOLISH CAPITALISM NOW, BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE.

“Alex Jones' InfoWars.com readers” are mostly of the same ilk that believe Jesus Christ will come back and save them from the impending apocalypse/antichrist/barry soetoro/indonesian socialism. Those who do not believe that, instead believe that a holocaust of jews and political elites (jew sympathizers) will help the people. Those readers who do not believe either of these things have fled to Raw Story.

While I readily admit that Alex Jones and those who have frequented his website have been right in their reporting of a great number of important developments – the ignorant people will transpose certain words as they read them, and use them to promote religious and fascist answers to real problems that could better be solved with reasoned inquiry. We might call them trolls, we might call them the lunatic right. A better name for them is the sheeple – and yes even infowars readers are sheeple too. Don't get me wrong, the same is true for Raw Story – just to a lesser extend, I would argue.

My “prediction” for you, is that through the many intelligent young people who count themselves amongst the anti-government fringe: left wing, right wing, no-wing, socialists, anarchists and neo-nazis, it is these who will decide how “democratic society” is defined in the not-too-distant future. Not the senile fools and kleptocratic oligarchs that control American today.

As a wise man once said, “you don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.”

If it's the anti-government types they want to keep track of, they're going to have to hire a whole lot more people. Keywords would be a logistical nightmare due to the sheer number of people that would be flagged for screening.

God, or something so advanced that we make think of it as a god.

Every day!

They have already pumped all our taxes to the banksters, the military, the too big to fail corporations and now what is left will be slurped up to spy on us.
In the old days we didn't know there were so many- twisted minds waiting to get control of the minutiae of everyday life. Now we know…so now what?

Another straw on the camels back? Tell me again why it is that after I post this, I'll still get ready for work.

Where are the “conservatives” with their cries of “big government” and “keep the government out of my life” ?

As long as something is militant,has the words “national security” attatched,or is authoritarian ,critical thinking does not apply. Without “conservative” ignorance and groupthink ,we would not be in this mess because they drag us all down with their [manufactured] popular support.

One day they might try to read past[or have someone read to them] the second amendment to at least the fourth….

there is actually a whole article about choice point on sourcewatch

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Choi…

“… ChoicePoint has been criticized, by many critics of the 2000 election, for having a bias in favor of the Republican Party, for knowingly using inaccurate data, and for racial discrimination. …”

2000 seems so long ago but choice point is still at it and will probably merge into a brance of “big brother”, the surveillance group the government is setting up

Report: NSA creating spy system to monitor domestic infrastructure ……

I found your entry interesting do I’ve added a Trackback to it on my weblog :)…

Oh, so just because you don't see the devil … that means the devil doesn't exist. Totalitarianism comes wrapped in a flag you fool.

Lol, what's your malfunction? I see the devil, and questioned why I carry on going about my day as if it's only the wolf at the edge of the field in my peripheral vision.

I never even mentioned totalitarianism. You must have meant to reply to someone else. This is what happens when folks reply out of anger, they hammer away at the keys and click the mouse like mad men only to realize later the scope of their folly. Not saying you did exactly that but at the same time saying I can't see how your reply was relevant to my post specifically…

I do believe we as a species have outgrown the concepts put forth to us by those who created the flags in the first place though. If governments really functioned in the best interests of its people this place would be one big love party.

We here at Florida teabaggers anonymous Local 69 (a twelve step, self help group to aid in the transition away from non-consensual fellatio in Jacksonville) will support this effort with all of the political…suction we can pucker up o to keep this christian nation free of civil disobedience and to promote family friendly TV. We also support the good folks at Rapture Ready Meals Inc. who's motto is “you'll never Go hungry.”

If someone uses that false flag 9-11 bullshit one more time as an excuse to take away what privacy we have left and thwart our freedom to criticize this corporate neo- fascist regime bush cheney on steroids. ' I will scream and kick like a little school girl . However after being patted on the head by my brainwashed robototron Fox news sound byte loving friends, I will secumb to the quick sand stupidity that now engulfs this sad country. .

“Schneier sees danger in the media “mislabeling” activities like computer hacking and “cyber-activism” as “cyberwar.”

There's already a “cyberwar” going on which is why they want this thing. Money travels through the wires these days and it's common for the wealthy to shift the locations of their stolen funds at the push of a button. And, if another wealthy person can see this money on the move then just another push of a button puts that stolen money into their accounts. This all began a few years ago when the Promis Software got out into the “wrong” hands.

See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inslaw
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/1.01/inslaw_…
http://educate-yourself.org/tg/TCUpromisscandal…
http://www.scribd.com/doc/16946805/SOFTWARE-TO-…

says the guy using products and websites developed through corporations to spread his “abolish capitalism” message.

cute and ironic. really

It's time to consider contingency plans for emigrating to a free country.

Sorry maybe if you bothered to read a few conservative sites once in a while instead of “knowing” what the conservatives thought you would know that they are just as upset as the liberals over this issue.

I have the advantage of reading several liberal and several conservative sites because I am not as closed minded as liberals. I even read CNN which is in my opinion a non news site. The only site I rarely read is MSNBC.

Another important point my liberal friend it is the Harry and Nancy show that gave the government the power to do this.

This isn't the fault of free-market capitalism, if that's what you're implying. Look up corporatism. Corporatism entails a government choosing to subsidize preferred industries. Think about all of the lobbyists in DC and the fields that they represent; often they represent some reviled industries like Big Pharma, Oil, Weapons, Agribusiness(i.e. Monsanto). So, the difference between free-market capitalism and its mutant brother, corporatism, is the use of government. If a local restaurant were to kill some of its diners by botulism, then the owners would likely be sued to the point of bankruptcy. Furthermore, the clientele would likely plummet out of fear of food poisoning. That's what should happen if businesses act like fools. But will that happen to Monsanto or Merck? We already know that GM and the banking industry can get bailed out by our government so what's to prevent Monsanto from being bailed out if they had some serious toxic assets in the books? THAT'S Corporatism, not free-market Capitalism and Corporatism sucks.

And just what are the “conservatives” saying… I must have missed that too…along with the rest of the world.

try reading “Drudge” If I can read this trash site you could read drudge.

It will be monitoring computer control systems that would have security implications if attacked – electric, nuclear, subway systems, and air traffic control.

These are large, typically older, computer control systems that were often designed without Internet connectivity or security in mind.

Sensors would be deployed in these control systems to identify unusual activity suggesting impending cyber attacks.

There, only 3 sentences. Do you understand now?

Do you understand that it is to protect the infrastructure of the USA from cyber attacks?

Do you understand that it will monitor specific computer control systems?

Do you understand the monitoring will be data specific, relating to the control of those systems?

Do you understand that the 'sensors' are thus not placed 'throughout the web' but within the system being monitored.

Do you understand that Drudge, et al, – like you – have no knowledge of computer control systems and so talk bollocks?

Do you understand that you are merely sheeple bleating misinformation, because it confirms your beliefs?

With all the technology we have today, “1984″ was bound to become reality.

Do you understand that the NSA had no authority to conduct surveillance in the United States until Bush illegally began using them to do so after 9/11?

Do you realize that had the NSA shared it's knowledge with the CIA or FBI that 9/11 probably could have been avoided?

Do you realize that it's just a matter of time before the NSA is looking into 'all potential terrorists' – read anyone who isn't a 'Perfect Citizen?'

And I got to wonder, 'Who signs your paychecks?'

Do you understand critical infrastructures do not need to be connected to the internet? Do you understand other network technologies other than TCP/IP exists and can be used to control the critical system ON SITE without the risk of remote attacks? Do you even understand computer control systems?

the difference is Raw has some semblance of credibility….

You don't talk to Alex Jones listeners much do you? Most are fairly free-thinking individuals and are definitely up on what the government is “secretly” doing. There are some, however, who do tend to take on Alex Jones' own spiritual prejudices and fears. For example, they lump white witches in with demon worshipers and demonize some religions while supporting others. But, overall, they're informed right wing capitalists trying to find a way to fix capitalism not understanding that it's broken beyond repair and should be replaced by something new. You know. . . Ron Paul supporters.

Tell us more lies about the 'sensors'

Perfect Citizen of the Homeland
Homeland Perfect Citizen

Censorship
Lieberman
The Fed
AIPAC
1984
NSA
9/11

I want to see drudge say …. “most republicans and christians along with the entire military are war criminals”. That was said here. You play team politics….only problem is both teams are against…. We the people.

I find many days drudge is more liberal than Raw. Drudge brings both liberal and conservative stories. Also, drudge links to liberal and conservative blogs. Raw does not link to conservative sites.

Orwell's 1984 is certainly here, with only a few cosmetic alterations.

Just have a look at what Big Brother doesn't want us to see that's actually happening in the Gulf:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxDf-KkMCKQ&feat…

And if you'd like to learn the truth about Corexit and the criminal cartel that's actually behind this planned nightmare, drink this in:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2fldJnaNp0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzj2lZDEJMw

Facing the hard truths and having one's longstanding entrenched pre-conceptions about the world in which we live turned on their head isn't particularly easy, but we're simply going to have to do it if we want to survive.

Sure conservatives are just as upset about expanding the national security apparatus as us libs are, why I remember just how vociferously “conservatives” railed against such Constitution-shredding policies as

The “Patriot” Act

Warrantless spying on US citizens and their purely domestic communications

Torture as official US policy

Indefinite detention

Suspension of habeas corpus

Oh wait, since those policies started with the Bush Jr/Cheney regime, conservatives weren't irate at all, instead, they cheered with BS like “Way to stick it to those terrorists and dirty liberals”.

These braying and blithering morons apparently forgot that the new President inherits all those unchecked powers they loved so much when claimed by the teabaggers Gods, Bush Jr & Cheney.

These hypocritical rightwingers can fuck off over to North Korea if they love strong, unquestioned leaders so much.

Your assumption is wrong.I do read legitimate conservative commentary [non neocon]by such people as Paul Craig Roberts,Ron Paul,and Mises.org,etc. I am not always in 100% agreement because I do see a role for Government and do not believe in Laissez Faire. I am ,however,sympathetic to some principles of limited Government etc. This NSA issue being the case in point.

With that said,authoritarian statism is the NORM for the vast majority of “conservatives” [note the quotation marks] especially when it comes to Civil Liberties as evidenced by their behavior during the last 8 years of Bush.I would argue that the “Nancy and Harry show” is an outrage because it CONTINUES the neocon policies set by the R party,and therefore is NOT representative of “Liberal” principles.In short,Harry & Nancy are too much like what passes as “conservative”. If they moved to stop something like this you can bet that the Right would cry with their usual rhetoric about “endangering America” etc. If they are not neocons then they are certainly cowards.[Perhaps they don't want to be anthraxed like 2 other liberals were when they stood in the way of the Right wing's beloved "Patriot Act"]

I have read the comments on “Drudge” and they usually seem weighted toward the delusional Fox “news” type of neocon garbage…..So,where is this Right wing outrage?Direct me and I'll read it….

Your assumption is wrong.I do read legitimate conservative commentary [non neocon]by such people as Paul Craig Roberts,Ron Paul,and Mises.org,etc. I am not always in 100% agreement because I do see a role for Government and do not believe in Laissez Faire. I am ,however,sympathetic to some principles of limited Government etc. This NSA issue being the case in point.

With that said,authoritarian statism is the NORM for the vast majority of “conservatives” [note the quotation marks] especially when it comes to Civil Liberties as evidenced by their behavior during the last 8 years of Bush.I would argue that the “Nancy and Harry show” is an outrage because it CONTINUES the neocon policies set by the R party,and therefore is NOT representative of “Liberal” principles.In short,Harry & Nancy are too much like what passes as “conservative”. If they moved to stop something like this you can bet that the Right would cry with their usual rhetoric about “endangering America” etc. If they are not neocons then they are certainly cowards.[Perhaps they don't want to be anthraxed like 2 other liberals were when they stood in the way of the Right wing's beloved "Patriot Act"]

I have read the comments on “Drudge” and they usually seem weighted toward the delusional Fox “news” type of neocon garbage…..So,where is this Right wing outrage?Direct me and I'll read it….

Do you walk upright?

Raw Story:

It is your job to start exploring more on this subject.

Tell us about the history banker takeover and the currency wars in the U.S., tell us of the history of false flag terror, tell us about the history of tyrannical government…And relate it to now, tell us how they are using even more sophisticated strategies to control and manipulate us.

DO YOUR RESEARCH AND HELP US.

Buddy, you are the “Perfect Citizen” that they are looking for!! You will believe anything you are told AND you have the gumption to call others “sheeple”.

In a breath, you both explain why their cover is complete non-sense and THEN you ridicule anyone who doesn't believe it!!!

The “Perfect Citizen” indeed.

I'd love to hear your ideas….is their a country that is immune to this global takeover??

you mean like Ron Paul? WELL….WE'VE BEEN HERE THE WHOLE TIME, SCREEEEEAMING ABOUT ALL OF THIS.

But you guys got on the partisan merry-go-round one more time, sure that Obama was different.

“conservative” groupthink and “manufactured” popular support?? You mean after 9-11 when 93% of the country begged for a police/war state and only the libertarians with actual principles, the people that started the TEA movement you love to demonize, were the people saying NO!!!

Ok, buddy. Whatever you say.

I guess by the time they suppress and censure information freely available on the internet , its all over, your site and many others which after all are our only link to the realities beyond corporate control will not exist. I believe the technology is in place, and it would be done in the interest of the nations security of course. The final nail in any notion of free thinking and liberty, will be gone. Ironically it may be a good thing as none of us will know whats going on anymore, its always somewhat distressing to be continually discovering the truth as to what is happening out there. to know this only increases ones feelings of impotence and disenfranchisement ; but truth is addictive Hats off to George Orwell.” Under the spreading, chestnut tree I sold you, and you sold me.” Big Brother has been here awhile,

if you'd replace “conservative” with statists, you won't have to put it in quotes.

where did you get the idea that the Iraq War and Patriot Act were “conservative” and “neo-con”? Everyone needs to get out of this BS partisan divide and realize that ALL OF THIS draconian crap is the work of THE WASHINGTON CONSENSUS. aka the NSC.

Calling this stuff “neo-con” is like admitting that you just started paying attention during Bush's second term. And whether people realize it or not, the term is shorthand for “them AIPAC jews” and is nothing new whatsoever.

ABOLISH IGNORANCE NOW, BEFORE ITS TOO LATE.

Bill,

Thats not really true. I know the internet seems vast, but its all delivered to you (for the most part) by the big ISPs. Iran and China have had success censoring the web, and the only way info gets through is because the West wasn't doing this draconian crap. Now we are starting.

But you are right, just like Rome loathed the printing press, our statist overlords hate the internet, which constantly exposes them, threatens their power, and allows us to organize (although we'd rather bicker about if “neo-cons” or “progressives” are the worst type of overlord scum).

i'm sure a few 100 thousand 3rd world immigrants will raise the IQ.

i can't believe AZ is so moronic to want to protect their borders from invasion!! its almost like they live in some bizarro world where men are still men and not sniveling PC ninnies.

With a name like “Perfect Citizen”, what else could it be other than “Big Brother”?

They have been violating our rights for years…..ever since Nixon, at least…little bit by little bit..in the name of National Security….(a Corporate compromised Government take-over ) and now we are supposed to do what, exactly…? Revolt..? Blood in the streets…(the cops work for the politicians who work for the Corporations, that make the laws) people should have been paying more attention to what was going on forty-fifty years ago…but we were listening to porpaganda (be afraid, be safe, some ones coming to get you..the commies, the socialist's, the Marxist's, the Muslims, but no, not the Corporations..they are good..the free market and all that!) we will protect you..!! just sign here, here and here!) it just can't happen here….not in America..(we're to smart for that!)

Should have said Corporate propaganda, given voice and credence, by our Corporate bought and paid for, “elected” politicians and the Corporate news media………….

What's the matter? Do you have a problem with corporations destroying the planet? Don't you understand that, if corporations are destroying the planet, then it must be for YOUR BENEFIT???

Let's get this straight: Companies like BP are in existence to supply you with all of the creature comforts that you could ever want. Of course there are risks. But there are risks in crossing the street! And if it looks like the beaches and the waters are negatively impacted by this comparatively small human error, then the free market will fill the need and develop technology to deal with the problem. There is nothing that human engenuity cannot overcome. Have faith in the free enterprise system. In a very short time, the waters of the Gulf will be pure and clean, and the beaches will once again be pristine and inviting. And it will be YOU who will be amazed at the quick recovery, and wonder how the good people at BP could have been so right, so much of the time.

Will wonders ever cease?

There's too many people. We're a disease.. We're replicants.” It's time to die.”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZKkxAQYxyE&NR=1

The bodies plugged-into energy-sucking machines in The Matrix.

Those are perfect citizens.

Tommy can you hear me?

It's time for all our fellow humans to stick it to the man. It's time to get MAD

Read Armed Madhouse by Greg Palast. You know, the book that the “Don't tase me, bro!” kid was holding up as he got jolted.

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when you sacrifice a little freedom for a little security, you get niether.

I say neocon because it is their 9/11 bullshit that still frames any “national security” debate.
It is their version of history [the Zelikow-9/11 report]that justifies the encroaching police state.It is their talking points that are repeated over and over across the media.

I said nothing about “them jews” .I don't care where they're from or what race they are,so nice try asshole…

Nope. You get fisted with inflation, taxes, and despair.

Meanwhile, the potholes get deeper, the bridges fall down, and the speed traps.proliferate across the land as local jurisdictions desperately try to make up for revenue lost to the Bush-Obama depression. But remember, Big Brother loves you!

Just a reminder. Over most of the 2,000,000 years of human history, the average world population was 70,000.

Double plus good. Now report to the protein vat for “reassignment.”

We have a term for these guys here at the Grand Unified Intelligence Control Center. We call them canine preparations. We press the little button and they go “arf!”

Who IS the chief of finance at the CIA nowadays?

You seem to have hit the nail right on the head. Anyone else interested in the use of 911 to fuel the encroachment of fascism should do a quick search at Google Video for Webster Tarpley. Tarpley is the dean of 911 as the root cause of the current situation. Actually, let me do it for you: http://www.google.com/search?q=webster+tarpley&…

Abolish morons now before you guys take us all down.

National Socialist PARTY=Nazis. “Fascism” was Mussolini. And neither of them had a socialist bone in their bodies. The Reichstag fire false flag operation was intended to end the Communist Party as a viable opposition.

Back door? What for? It has a FRONT DOOR large enough to sail an aircraft carrier thru.

The Nazis were a variant of Fascism and are considered Fascists as a political label.
The differences between the German and Italian forms were window dressing.

(..and evidence that van der Lubbe didn't do it is very sketchy. He probably did it, but he wasn't too bright. We should all remember his error and learn from it.)

How's the Interzone, doctor?

“where did you get the idea that the Iraq War and Patriot Act were conservative and neocon? Try this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjCvR641lw

I give credit where credit is due.I agree that this crap is the fault of the washington consensus. But it is the right that tells us it's for our own good.And it's the right that acts like THEY are our saviours now after THEY put this shit in high gear.And it's the 9/12 -Teaparty express types THAT FALL FOR IT!

Thanks for the link.
I like Tarplay because he is not naive with these “freemarket” ,deregulation, utopian fantasies.I think his take on the new deal and F. Roosevelt is on the money,he was fighting the “new world order”.

WT is one of the best 9/11 commentators…

You are misinformed. Take the infrastructure offline, if it ever was online. Use dedicated closed circuits to operate critical infrastructure. They did it before the net existed and they can still do it. This is the simple solution to the bogus problem. If there is an attack on infrastructure, my bet is that it will be a false flag event, like 911.

You are misinformed. Take the infrastructure offline, if it ever was online. Use dedicated closed circuits to operate critical infrastructure. They did it before the net existed and they can still do it. This is the simple solution to the bogus problem. If there is an attack on infrastructure, my bet is that it will be a false flag event, like 911.

You are misinformed. Take the infrastructure offline, if it ever was online. Use dedicated closed circuits to operate critical infrastructure. They did it before the net existed and they can still do it. This is the simple solution to the bogus problem. If there is an attack on infrastructure, my bet is that it will be a false flag event, like 911.

You are misinformed. Take the infrastructure offline, if it ever was online. Use dedicated closed circuits to operate critical infrastructure. They did it before the net existed and they can still do it. This is the simple solution to the bogus problem. If there is an attack on infrastructure, my bet is that it will be a false flag event, like 911.

I did…

http://blog.kir.com/archives/images/alfred_e_ne…

Do you understand that the solution to this bogus problem is to take any critical infrastructure offline. Have dedicated closed circuit lines for critical infrastructure. We had that before the net and we can have it now. You aren't very smart are you?

Actually Bush's NSA began spying on US citizens by tapping all their phone calls and internet activity in early 2001, long before 9/11.

And if you do some research you will realize that 911 was an inside job.

Take a look at WTC 7.

Obama or Bush, no difference. They both do what they are told by the franchisees.

Your government is owned by the banksters, the military industrial complex, the transnational oil companies, and the rest of the corporatocracy. Your vote doesn't mean Jack shit.

You stepped in it there.

Just wake up and realize that the 2 party paradigm is bullshit.

The Republicans suck. The Democrats suck. Neither really cares about you.

capitalism

1. a socio-economic system based on private property rights, including the private ownership of resources or capital, with economic decisions made largely through the operation of an unregulated market.
2. ( a socio-economic system based on the abstraction of resources into the form of privately-owned capital, with economic decisions made largely through the operation of an unregulated market.
3. (countable) a specific variation or implementation of either such socio-economic system.

It is in the interests of both small-businesses and corporations to conglomerate, to expand, buy and sell assets, and to monopolize, thus becoming wealthier and wealthier.

See http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0708/campaign-launc…

This is the nature of unregulated free-market capitalism, and by busting monopolies or duopolies, you begin to regulate the formerly free market, just as when you enact trade protectionist policies. Those in industry will always weigh their influence with our government to slash away all the regulations that are managed to be put in place.

My point here is that I don't think it's possible to abolish corporatism, and maintain a capitalist system. At least not here in America, where our supreme court ruled that corporations = people.

You're right – I'm a hypocrite and slave to Microsoft.

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