I'm no Biblical scholar, but if I recall correctly, Joseph, Mary and Jesus fled across the border into Egypt. It's a good thing no one turned them back at the border because they didn't have the necessary paperwork.

Jesus would also cut unemployment benefits…
because that's the way Republican Jesus rolls…
he would probably end social security too…
because Republican Jesus would say;”Fuck those old lazy layabouts.”
and school lunch programs?
Republican Jesus would show up at school to overturn the tables in the cafeteria.
Republican Jesus is awesome.

Oh my gawd….Crazy republican bible thumper believes in one thing…That means I must believe the opposite! Right media?

Flood my country with 3rd world peoples, its all good! I don't want to be “uncool” now like a “repuke”. I mean after all, the same banks that are responsible for the state of corrupt 3rd world nations are the same banks that are destroying mine. Its all good. I don't need a high standard of living, I just need to go with the grain!

Republican says crazy thing to get attention. We give them attention. Republicans drive the discussion. Example #19,141

Holy Rollers suck

If you can convince a man of absurdities, you can get him to commit atrocities

Its a trick. They want us to laugh at people who care about borders.

They want to set up a NWO so obviously they cant have us caring about borders, so they will make it seem stupid and shameful by associating it with a group they have established for these reasons. Even though the reckless flooding of coutries with immigrants has bad effects.

Just like how they mix real news in the enquirer and globe to discredit it.

They created the 3rd world nations via bank enslavement. Now they are flooding our coutries with these people. This way, its white vs. black, police vs. civilian, and no one is looking at the true culprits, or the true reasons for our misery.

They sure care about foreigners when they're on the other side of the planet & it supports their endless wars & occupations. I love when GOP pundits & leaders become feminists to support a reasoning for the US fighting in Afghanistan.

Don’t forget: Republican Jesus wants a 10% tax rate on dividends/capital gains and an elimination of the “death tax.” And more wars.

“Smith pointed out that 'the Bible contains numerous passages that support the rule of law” — such as, “Let every person be subject to governing authorities,” from Romans 13:1-7.”

So if that is the case, then they should just give in to Obama since he is the ruler….haha

I hate both conservatives and liberals

If it keeps some of these haters who blog on here out of the county; so be it.

Republican's are about as Christian in spirit as the Inquisition.

Yes, well said. In fact, here is a great video about the Republican Jesus, aka, 'Supply-Side Jesus'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK7gI5lMB7M

I disagree. John Lennon said it best in the song 'Imagine:

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too

Imagine there are no borders, where people could freely go and live wherever they can find room. We are probably hundreds of years away from that kind of world. This is the world that can be interpreted by some from the supposed words of 'Jesus'.

imo, we are many hundreds of years away from that kind of harmony. Meanwhile, I agree, we must have borders to contain problems, before we eliminate the need for them.

What he hates is homework

touché!

What did Jesus say about raping children in churches?
What did Jesus say about adultery?
What did Jesus say about divorce?
What did Jesus say about trolling public toilets for gay sex with strangers?

Is Jesus some kind of whore that Christians call upon only when needed – and told to shut up and sit down at other times? What exactly is the Bible's standing in God's Own Country…. that of a cheap prostitute?

If Jesus does come back, a LOT of people are going to be very surprised who's ass he kicks. (Assuming there's anybody left.)

wait until texas is finished with those school text books, they'll be starting on the bible next and then we will know EXACTLY what each passage means after they tell us … don't forget god is the personal property of the neocons

Your headline is incorrect.

“Care about” has nothing to do with it. Foreigners legally in the country accept our laws and follow them (try breaking Mexican law south of the border — and have your wallet ready).

Bishop Kicanas has long represented the democratic socialism of the Catholic Church hierarchy — it has driven tens of millions of people out of the Church, but it is not the teaching of the Church: it is the political opinion of bishops who receive billions of taxpayer dollars from the Congress every year.

We feed many illegals in our Church supper every Wednesday, but that is voluntary charity. The political question here is simple: should American taxpayers (the few of us left) have to pay all of the basic welfare expenses for as many of the world's poor who manage to sneak into our country?

Yes or no?

Fact: There are 2.2 billion people in the world who live on less that $2 a day, according to the world Bank.

How many of them do you want to let in?

Everything the plutocrats do, IMF, World Bank, NAFTA, War on Drugs, USAID, National Endowment for Democracy, funding of the Contras, overthrowing Aristide, Zelaya, Allende, (and temporarily, Chavez), Mossadegh, Arbenz, Roldos, Torrijos, Sukarno, Lumumba, the assassinations of JFK, RFK, MLK, Malcolm X, Paul Wellstone, JFK Jr., the creating of “the Hitler Project” in the 20s, the importation of all the top Nazis into the US government and military in Project Paperclip, and on and on and on —all these things they do for filthy lucre’s sake. Because they are addicts. Worm-eaten money and power addicts. Better them than me.

This should clear up what God the Republican worship and it's clearly Satan. Say what ever you want but they have now said and shown the Republican Party/Tea Party/KKK are doing the work of Satan but using God's name. Bush announced God told him to be President and we see how that turned out with two Wars and a Recession and World chaos.

you are soooo right

Yes I agree also. But thats in an idealized type of way.

Look at it this way:

You create a lazy, unaggressive complacent 1st world nation. You also create a war torn, corrupt, angry, desperate, uneducated 3rd world nation.

You inject 1st world nation with 3rd world nation immigrants, just as you plan to take everything over. NWO is established. Everyone loses.

I mean in essence sharing is good. But opening the borders in this case is not sharing. Its taking away from us actually.

But I think we probably agree based on your last sentence.

They are injecting all these hyped names in phrases to distort the true argument, and fog what is actually going on.

They are trying to rob us all. The only way they can do that is to keep us hating each other. And we only perceive each other as the media tells us to… ie religious nut, terrorist, mexican, whitey, abortion, gay whatever…

U look at the history of the fed. The history of government printed money vs. privately printed money. That is the true war, not the media circus distration.

Indeed and out of respect for border integrity the Jews will be handing the land back over to the Canaanites.

tch, tch, tch… don't you recall that their god commanded them to kill all of the inhabitants and steal their land… it's the basis of their covenant with god.

Its a fact that Jesus carried his passport everywhere he went and always had the right VISA for each nation he went to. Its in the Bible….look it up….Glenn Beck did…and he knows cause he graduated from high school

king is another racist ashkenazi heeb that needs to be deported.

“Jesus” and the Bible are a political expedient for House demagogues. Republicons and Democraps. If Congress were to actually 'fix' immigration and the INS well, the Chamber of Commerce would lose all their quiet little slaves and oh mommy we can't be having that.
Don't believe any of the posturing kids, it's a trick.

Lol. because you honestly believe that the entire planet wants to be part of the American dream?.How many Japanese, Swiss citizens to see pouring illegally in your beautiful country?. Like I told you before, the US only attract those who have less than you have, you wouldn't have me spend a week in the US, eating shit and breathing idiocy are no part of my conception of the pursuit of happiness…. I have respect for some Americans, but the vast majority are dumb as dirt, and you make my case each and every time you open your mouth, Thank you

Jesus forgot his passport. . .
Andele Step Up, Step Up Please, Welcome to Mexico, Where are you going?
Alto Alto Stop Stop Please, You with the long hair and the beard Yeah you with the Halo.
Come over here, pick up your cross and bring it with you. Now where in the Hell do you think you are going?

(Thunder) I've come to visit my children

Ahh you have ninos in Mexico

(Thunder) I have children everywhere.

Ah you are Rock n Roll Star! I will have to search you..Take off your sandals, Oh that's a nasty scar senior. Put them back on

Senior your name please.
(Thunder) I have been called the Prince Of Peace

Ah Senior Peace, we can not let you in this country you have to go back, we do not allow you or your kind in this country, now go back!

(Thunder) I don't think you realize who I am
I don't care who you are Senior, You can not come into this country, we do not let you or your kind in this country, go back to san diego Andeley

Step up, Step Up Please Next.
Welcome to Mexico Senior, where are you going?

here's the bible answer:

1:And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be taxed. 2:(And this taxing was first made when Cyrenius was governor of Syria.) 3:And all went to be taxed, every one into his own city. 4:And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David:) 5:To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child. 6:And so it was, that, while they were there, the days were accomplished that she should be delivered.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_did_Mary_and_Jose…

SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE

Wow! These people have REALLY gone of the Christian reservation. Unbelievable.

If Jesus came back today, the scribes and pharisees of modern times would crucify him all over again.

What sick people repubs are!!! Jesus wasn't into government, politicians or man drawn borders. He wasn't blond blue eyed either. He was a middle easterner with olive skin tone. If they would just for once read the Sermon on the Mount, they would see what mistaken fools they are. They are not true Christians who follow the Prince of Peace. They are repub Christians.
There is a big difference between the two.

I am white, but I find these repubs a total embarrassment.

They are Democrats. Don't confuse repubs with the Dems. Yes there is a difference. If you don't know the difference, let me know and I'll count all the ways for you.

Do you have proof that those here illegally don't follow the laws? Think about it. They could be arrested and sent back at any minute. You can bet they follow the laws. Wouldn't you????

There is a world of difference between conservatives and liberals. How could you even lump them together? Perhaps you really don't understand who they are. Let me know and I'll count the ways with you.

How do you describe those who vote for them? Nuts, racist, homophob, anti women, anti environment, anti health care, and finally rich?????? They seem so blind to reality.

They have driven me to the point where I actully hate them all. I am white, but all I see is very angry white people. I think they are afraid of the thought of not being in the majority. I am white, and I can't wait for the angry white men to be in the minority. It will be such a hoot to watch them go insane.

Have you heard that the Rapture has already happened? Right, it was way back in 1953 when a few thousand people were “taken up” — but since all of them were poor and so few of them were white nobody noticed! The rest of us are stuck with our fallen world and poisoned planet where idiots like these Bible-humping Republicans keep getting elected to Congress. Go figure…

Ye Gods! The GOP will stop at nothing to divide and conquer. Jesus and his message were all about compassion and dealing kindly with the poor. He spoke of justice and said the second greatest commandment was to love one's neighbor as oneself. The GOP show no signs of this Christ like behavior and philosophy. I wonder how many of them approve of migrant workers and the pittance they are paid – more money for their own pockets. Will we ever learn to stand up to these misogynists and remind them that THEIR ancestors came from elsewhere. I find these people repugnant and evil.

thanks, but you forgot to credit Cheech and Chong for that ;)

Yes, it does seem to be a plan. I makes sense to me that the spirit of the american middle class was seen as far too powerful by the powers that be, and this is one way to decimate it, along with economic/wall st tyranny and other ways. For example, I believe NAFTA is responsible for much of the turmoil south of the border.

If the second coming ever happens I sure wouldn't want to be a republican, Jesus is going to be mad

I really don't believe he'd be such a pushover if he came back.

you know you are in trouble when you have to use the names of Jesus and Hitler and Stalin all the time to get attention.

More reasons why I'd never choose their brand of “christianity”.
Their superficiality, their meanspiritedness and hypocrisy of their religiosity is enough to repulse me eternally.

The incredible ignorance of these retarded life forms reminds one of the Taliban and other fundamentalists.

Republicans can always come up with lots of reasons why it's wrong to help anybody

Agreed! I have come to hate all things republican. It started with bush. I can even no longer tolerate southern accents. Republicans are soooooo stupid! Such degenerates! Such wonderful examples of the true meaning of christianity!

The truth of the matter is that only people with a cursory understanding of Scripture and a poor grasp of the Hebrew underlying the English would claim that the Bible advocates open borders. It does not. Of course, Lev 19:34 is mentioned. This is where the Israelites were told to treat the sojourning stranger respectfully as a native, but what is left out is that the Hebrew word in this instance describes a special kind of sojourner. In this case, the word “ger” refers to foreign residents who live in another land with a host's permission. In other words, it refers to legal aliens. These people are to be protected by the law. A good example of how this process operated was when Joseph sought permission from the pharaoh to move his family to Egypt. A similar situation of seeking permission can be found in Numbers 20:14-21 However, if these people were to be protected by the law, then there was an implication that they must honor the law as well.

Now, there are two other Hebrew words that can be crudely translated to mean “stranger” and they are the words “zar” and “nekhar”. However, these strangers are not to be given legal protection. These are better translated as “foreigners” and “invaders”. These words best describe our illegal immigrants. And if anyone claims that with Christ came a new covenant that made the Old Testament laws impotent, I would suggest they read Matthew 5:18.

My preacher mentioned this in his sermon a while back. He said, “You can disagree with his policies, but the Bible tells you to respect him and to follow his rule.” It's amazing (and SAD) the lack of respect our President gets!!

I am 100% for stopping illegal immigration and drug trafficking that happens on our southern borders. I am 100% against amnesty. I am 100% for immigration work programs that bring people into the country who want to work here and then allow them to go home and spend that money with their families in Mexico or whatever their country of origin.

But I'm certainly not going to try and interpret the Bible to back up my cause or beliefs. I think that for those who believe in the Bible, God's word would've had said love my neighbor as you love thyself. anyone who is a Christian and is stupid enough to say otherwise is simply using Christianity to their own ends and not to the ends for which it was supposedly created.

We have Glenn Beck and Sharon angle running around saying that they are part of God's plan. We all know they are complete lunatics.and so is anyone else who thinks that they can interpret the mind of the God they believe in

in agreement with your post you could go one further. Many Jewish historians believe that the sins of Sodom and Gomorrah were not sins of debauchery and sex with animals etc, but the fact that they refuse to help people in need which during that time was one of the biggest sins that you could do. Remembering of course that they live in deserts and that help is hard to come by.

Not to mention that the area sits on methane deposits and has a great deal of earthquakes

This is so crazy! The main legislative body of a major mostly-modern industrialized nation is debating legislative issues by arguing about slow-boat interpretations of some alleged Holy Book from 2,200 years ago! Uganda could do better than this, and they’re already Crazy Christians!

This jesus character never existed as a real person.

Amen!

CLOWNS!!!!

Jesus respects Borders and Barnes and Noble too. But being either for or against illegals already here does nothing to get them out of the country or make them all legal. What is needed in any discussion, for or against, is specifics. How would you remove 11 million people and ship them elsewhere? Or, what is your plan for making 11 million citizens.

If I recall, Jesus, Mary and Joseph fled to Egypt as King Herod was having all the first born males killed because he was prophesied to be the new king. Good thing Sheriff Joe in Egypt at the time.

I too am a Heeb and I was in a war…to defend assholes like you?

And you Know this how exactly?

Assuming that there was any truth to their fictional bullshit in the first place. Why is a modern nation quoting a book of mythology written 6 thousand years ago for ignorant barbarians??? Is that the best we can do?

I have also been told that by my Lutheran minister.

These freaks want to be in charge???? LOL

OK, how do you know this?

These idiots would have thrown Jesus, Maria,and Jose plus the donkey out for being illegal. Why doesn't the hispanic population that works for so little, just stop working. It very hot right now and I would love to watch the new reality show, “Fat white guys” mowing lawns in 100% heat.

In passing: King is Catholic at his birth…
http://bit.ly/b2juen
your mouth foameth over and sayeth but little or nothing

I dont think this article is trying to solve the problem. it does however include a bunch of feeble minded people interpreting the mind of the god they suspect exists.

Myself I have no plan of making what you call 11 million and I call over 20 million people citizens. My only plan for removing them is simply deny them jobs, deny all but the most intensive heath care and zero social care. Deport those who are found in the daily work of the police. Create an immigration quest worker program and allow those in whop want to work based on requirements of corporations or companies. Such entities are responsible to get those people back to the immigration work program for getting them back to their homes to spend the money they made here on their families. Abuse the program, no more workers.

Lets hope the Foreigners are better people than the biblical figures.

I'd hate to see a mexican version of Joseph sweep through the country killing all men, women and children in his path. cause thats what good Christian armies do when someones on land they want.

The Bible has become every Christian's justification to either, excuse their behavior or justify a behavior that they are going to do. NEVER has it been used for empathy, understanding and love….otherwise we wouldn't be in this pile of shit, we are in now.

Don't tell me I don't know…I grew up in a Catholic home, went k-12 in Catholic Schools, I have a great uncle that was a Priest, a great aunt that is a Nun, and every single one of them excused or justified their bad behavior. They are human just like the rest of the world. SINNERS ALL AROUND. WE ARE HUMAN!

If you can't live by the book, then don't rule by the book. GEESH!

Although the financial cost is important, the issue that will crush any chance of citizenship, or Amnesty—is that millions of people broke the sovereign “Rule of Law.” Americans have had it, with the spiraling illegal drunken driving, the home invasions, the assaults, rapes and murders that is spreading from Arizona around the country. No AMNESTY–No nothing–go Home or be deported under E-Verify and future clampdowns by state police. THROW OUT ALL THE PRO-AMNESTY INCUMBENTS. Tea Party are not racists, they are fighting for Americas financial survival.

Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions. —Matthew 19:21-22

I wonder if the GOP remembers that story? Wonder whether they talk about it on Sunday when they're a-thumpin' in church?

Which borders? The ones set by the Roman Empire at the point of a sword? Every time these idiots open their mouths they expose their profound ignorance.

If you want to solve the illegal immigration problem, go after the people who hire undocumented workers. Create sanctions with teeth, i.e., jail time or stiff fines for offenders. Make it so that it's no longer profitable or worth the risk to hire people in this country illegally.

The GOP, naturally, will never ever do that. They secretly love illegal immigration, cheap labor, and the opportunity to blame all the nation's social and crime problems on a permanent, poor underclass.

These are a la carte Christians. Would you like fries with those homily grits?

criminal penalties for people and companies that hire illegal aliens will demagnetize the jobs as an attraction to cross over here to work.

You mean like the idiots in Arizona who cut taxes to the point where they had to sell the capitol building and then lease it back? Yeah, that sounds like the ticket to financial survival to me. How can I express my utter disdain for jackasses like you? Calling you a bleeding ulcerated asshole just doesn't quite do it.

I am 100% against “immigration work programs”. You're going to allow people to enter the US just to work, but not allowed to be citizens? That is rank hypocrisy and wrong. It's injustice, it's un-american, it's bad for labor, the middle class, and america.

That's not shit. That's chocolate mousse. Just like the stuff washing up on the beaches of the Gulf Coast. Just ask Senator Haley Barbour.

He probably is, but you certainly sound like one, too!

Steal their land at the point of a gun and then call them “illegal aliens.” Sounds Christian to me. Too bad the Saracens never managed to finally capture the Vatican.

There's no historical evidence?

Beyond that, see my website for details:

http://neros.lordbalto.com/ChapterTwelve.htm

There's no historical evidence. Not to mention the contradictions and absurdities between one version of the official story and the next.

Anyone with an ounce of sense and a little knowledge of history knows that. But try to convince the hypnotized than a table isn't a hippopotamus. It's hopeless. They just can't manage to wake up.

My basic theory is that religion is institutionalized mental illness. A place to dump the crazies before there was such a thing as a mental hospital. How else to explain something that has no survival value whatsoever?

Barack Obama is in the bible? Whoda thunk it?

The bible is a compilation of mostly contradictory texts that can be used to justify anything from stoning people for masturbating to having sex with your father.

I assume you mean Joshua. Joseph was famous only for storing grain 7 years in anticipation of a famine. Joshua and Caleb were the leaders of the taking on Canaan.

You also have to keep in mind that the guy they didn't treat well was the pharaoh of Egypt, old God-onEarth himself. Where do you think all those “angels” were from?

My brother in law who lives in San Diego says, without the Hispanics there would be no dish washed nor bed made — a slight exaggeration, but that's his summary.

When an individual hears voices, it's called schizophrenia. But when a group hears voices, it's a revival.

“If you ain't hearin' from God, there's somethin' wrong in yer life, brother.”

Granted there are elements of the story that go back to before the flood in Egypt circa 2950 BC, but most of the “bible” was compiled after 400 BC and the New Testament not much before AD 100.

My humble contribution to the understanding of biblical history:

http://neros.lordbalto.com/ChapterSeven.htm

only for daughters though, on the incest.

He would tell them to sell EVERYTHING THEY OWNED and follow him down the road of poverty and bear witness to the TRUTH. I don't know which of the two would terrify them more, frankly.

As Bob Dylan said in “I Want You”:

But I wait for them to interrupt
me drinking from my broken cup
and ask me to open up
the gate for you

It is worthy of mention that Romans 13:1-7 was Hitler's favorite passage.

Haw haw haw

Dr. Cornell West divides them into Prophetic Christians and Constantinian Christians, the latter being those who crowded into the faith after it was made not only legal but advisable and profitable by the Emperor. Those who bore the lash and the stake have more credibility with the professor.

Thank you for the fix, sometimes get all those people mixed up.

The story of Solomon's Judgment is an apt illustration of the crowd that tries to say “Dems are just as bad”. They are like the harlot whose child the babe was not, who said, “sure, cut it in half”, where the harlot who was the real mother said, “no, let her have the child, and slay it not.”

Sour grapes. If they can't be in power, then pull the whole house down.

jesus would be humping the bloody holes in his hands sooner than agree with republikkans.

Richard Land actually reads the parts of the Bible that reflect what I call “God” in reality, personally, but to some people he's treasonous to the covenant. I always choose to remember the compassionate parts of the Bible, as opposed to the ones that escalate the importance of the “Church” or institution of “Worship” which in reality is re-translated and re-labeled witchcraft and “mystery religion.”

If, as you say, the tea party is about fighting for America's financial survival, it would be really helpful if you guys would start focusing your energies on America's real enemies: those responsible for robbing us blind and then sending all of our jobs overseas to places like China, India, etc., in the first place instead of taking your wrath out on some poor immigrant. As it stands now why would anyone come to this country for a job–they've all been shipped overseas!! It's the international corporations/banksters that have control of this country now through their bought and paid for congresscritters–why is that so difficult for the tea partiers to understand?

Why do you tea partiers continue to allow yourselves to be duped by the very people that are robbing you blind–and laughing at you behind your backs for being so incredibly gullible. It's like with the collapse of the economy–these rich bastards actually convinced the tea party “movement” that the poor were the cause of all our country's ills–from the economy, to loss of jobs, to the destruction of the middle class–it's all the poor peoples' fault and you guys actually buy into that bullshit. If that were true, then why do these rich robber barons just keep getting richer–ever ask yourself that? Why haven't they suffered or had to make any sacrifices like the rest of us? No, instead, things are great in their world.

And the taxation issue–there's another example. Once again, the tea partiers are fighting over taxation of the rich–somehow you don't think they should have to contribute to our society by paying their fair share of taxes–that somehow that burden too must fall on the rest of us.

Thanks alot tea partiers. Whether you realize it or not you're being used big time and when they no longer need you (when there's nothing left of our nation but a dry empty shell), they'll turn on you, too.

I think we all recognize that something must be done about the current state of affairs in our country, but how can we possibly hope to accomplish anything if we can't even come together and agree on who the enemy is? They put alot of time, energy and money into keeping us divided–don't you get that?

Please, for all of our sakes, WAKE UP!

they know what jesus thinks. I am impressed.

ONE WORD: GEEZUS FUCKING KRYST!!! EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK!!!!! BAT SHIT ALERT!!!

You are begging the question. Provide proof for your claim and then I will take you seriously. You know, it doesn't really surprise me that a Burroughs fan is claiming the Bible to be hokum.
I'm a little scared to imagine what your moral compass resembles considering your being a devotee of a narcotic-abusing sodomite and murderer.

History bears witness. A made up, fictional character.

Tea Partiers are resisting immigation reform because they fear new citizens would be Democrats.

Yes, there is historical evidence. Have you ever heard of Josephus?

Many of those “ignorant barbrians” were probably more highly educated than you are. How many languages do you speak?

*psst* Governor Haley Barbour

Have you lost your freaking mind???? “Spiraling drunken driving.” “Rapes.” “Home invasions.” “Tea Party not racist.” “Fighting for America's financial survival.”
Not one fact in the whole rant. Please…..go back to your television, FOX and Glenn Beck.

Such an embarrassing display of drop-dead ignorance from these pathetic, hate-filled losers who shame themselves by invoking Jesus, someone about whom they obviously know nothing.

Really, some people are just unbelievable. I wonder how they get so high-strung and delusional?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus_on_Jesus

Yeah, and his work has been highly doubted too.

…”House Republicans: Bible doesn’t mean we need to care about foreigners”…..

Then why don't they kick the “walk on water” guy to the curb. Which by the way couldn't win 'You Think you Can Dance'. He went in and out of tribes, crossed borders and carried no ID.

They don't think at all.

All immigrants tying their future to these evangelicals are going to find out what is wrong with putting your future in the hands of these nut jobs. Isn't it great that someone like Land is actually daring to go against the Christers right here in Worldwide Christer Central, aka as the land of In God We Trust, even though it's more like Inna Gadda Davita for quite a few people, if you catch my drift?

Pretty dumb, Mr. Land. I hope you got the message. You're going to do more damage to these people by defending them than by simply assisting them. These minor evangelical churches are dying to score something big like, say, Uganda, a country that is now dishing out the death penalty to homosexuals. Now THAT is the ultimate Christer victory score of all time, for sure.

If this is true Jesus must have been upset at Joseph for taking the family to Egypt to avoid Herod.

Do Republicans even know what's in the New Testament.

Heh.
I always say Progressives think, conservatives believe. And therein lies the real problem… Damn hard to fight ignorance, intolerance, greed. How grand it must be to go through life without a care in the world just knowing you are right without expending any energy at all.

These people are so stupid it hurts the head every time they open their snouts !!

Let us not forget that the GOP's Blessed Saint Ronnie gave out a lot of immigration amnesty, to illegal immigrants from Mexico.

Matthew 13:34 All these things Jesus said to the crowds in parables; indeed, he said nothing to them without a parable. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mat….
So according to the Bible everything Jesus said was a story, none of it statement of fact and specifically as stated in the Bible not to be interpreted in that manner except by the evil and the stupid.
Start throwing back in the faces of those lying bible clutching Republicans, their lies they claim to get elected upon a for profit basis.

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I get the Stooges mixed up. . . and oh, some of the Captn America crew. . . but all the same really.

Using the God myth yet again to divide and control the ignorant and the weak.
Sun rises, son sets.

They're not stupid. They are too ignorant to be called stupid. Sad but true.
If we're not careful the booger eaters will win the next round.
A national nightmare for sure.
Hold onto your drawers, these freaks vote, and they reproduce.

Yes, “jesus”â„¢ was well known for respecting boundaries and authorities and money-changers.

want to do away with “illegal” immigration: 20 years federal prison for ANYONE hiring an undocumented worker. (Watch the price of lettuce skyrocket.)

Actually, I believe that he is talking about later on, when Pilate is supposed to have killed all the children in the region in order to prevent the ascension of a Christ figure. It was then that Mary and Joseph apparently ran off to Egypt. Before then there was no need to do so.

Actually, I believe that he is talking about later on, when Pilate is supposed to have killed all the children in the region in order to prevent the ascension of a Christ figure. It was then that Mary and Joseph apparently ran off to Egypt. Before then there was no need to do so.

WTF are they doing debating theology and dogma in the first place?

“I loved Jacob and hated Esau.” Esau gave-up his birthright.

“I am meek and humble of heart,” said Jesus. What does “humble of head” mean? Proud of heart means you will not accept a gift, even one given by God.

Wow. Different interpretations of scripture. Who'd have thought that could happen?

Last time I spoke to Jesus, he told me” the gentiles have to give back Texas, California, Arizona to the Mexies…..”

Great. Now we're a real theocracy! it's on the congressional record. Would Jesus, a Jew, carry around picture of Obama/Hitler and put tea bags on his hat with confederate flags, too? These guys constantly confuse ancient Israel with modern day America and patriotism/hyper-nationalism with Christianity.

This just in… Christians are moral hypocrites. Thank God for rawstory for pointing out the obvious. And by the way, we're all hypocrites.

We claim to want to help the poor, and yet we buy $4 Starbucks.
We claim to want to help the environment, and yet we drive like crazy, and worse yet, occasionally get on a plane.
Some claim to want to want to help the least of these, and yet complain about jobs going overseas to people poorer than us.
Some people point out the atrocities committed by the church, and fail to remember atrocities committed by secular governments.

Some people actually think they aren't hypocrites, and they're the biggest ones of all.

You know what work cited the Devil as using scripture to his own purposes before Shakespeare? The New Testament.

OH SNAP.

I guess Old Billy Shakespeare is just a more reliable source?

The fact that this argument is being made shows a gross ignorance of biblical law on the side of BOTH parties. The laws regarding foreigners are long and complicated – and even if you WERE getting them right, they were written specifically to apply to the people of ancient Israel and the people of God.

Considering how many people who are judging these statements USUALLY complain that we're supposed to be a secular nation with “separation of church and state,” I think it's clear that everybody here needs to shut the hell up, lest you become a hypocrite.

Pretty good sarcasm, you had me up to “doncha know”.

Good work!

All religious arguments are permutations of the conflict over “how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?”

Religious “study” is slightly less important than a scholarly analysis of popcorn farts.

(H/T to Mr. Dangerfield).

“Go back to San Diego!”. Always cracks me up.

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!

Cherry picking the Bible again. When will we bring back slavery, with the owner having the right to beat a slave senseless, providing the slave can survive at least one night? Reduce rape to minor crime, punishable by paying a fine to the girl's father? Eliminate pedophilia as a crime?

Still, you provide no substance for your point. You are just begging the question like most everyone else here. You assert something as fact and you have no way to prove it. You don’t even try to argue your case. And some Dangerfield pablum doesn’t count. So, I’m looking forward to more of your pointless comedy references. Maybe you’ll provide some vacuous George Carlin observation next time. I’ve got my fingers crossed….

Thanks! I try! :)

Well, of course he is!! He's the Lib's Messiah, dontcha know? ;o)

No argument from myth should ever be allowed in congress or any other elected public body. It's a violation of church-state separation, for one thing, and a violation of reason as well. I've never met a christian or any other religio-tard who wasn't stupid, ignorant, or willfully ignorant. I had my way, they'd not be allowed to vote.

Only according to the righties. I've never heard any lefitst say anything of the sort. It's amazing how you people come up with these little fantasies and think they are true.

I'm all for reform of our border policy…in the interest that it be done fairly, justly and well, to put an end to the toll of human lives and deliberate exploitation that it maintains currently…NOT to stick it to Latinos.

But these GOP operatives cannot be bargained with, and cannot be reasoned with, because the root of the debate for them is hate. Fostering hate, fanning the fires of hate, and reaping the benefits of hate's saleability.

Border policy reform is possible…but only after we've removed these sociopaths from the equation. Vote them out…investigate and arrest them…whatever it takes, but get rid of these goons before it's too late.

Uh, that's called sarcasm. Yes, I know the righties like to use that term. I was trying to be funny. I guess it didn't work.

I guess they forgot this: But the stranger that dwells with you shall be to you as one born among you, and you shall love him as yourself; for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.
http://scripturetext.com/leviticus/19-34.htm

Boy these guys must be a riot during the holidays.

Marty, you just illustrated some of the exact reasons why all people ultimately need Christ; it is because we are all flawed and incapable of achieving perfection on our own. And yet this is the very reason why Christianity stands apart from all other world religions. Islam, Buddhism, Mormonism, and Hinduism all espouse that man can achieve perfection or salvation using his own volition.

If they had built that separation wall 2000 or so years ago, they could've kept that illegal, un-wed mother out of the “Holy Land” and avoided this whole mess….

If they had built that separation wall 2000 or so years ago, they could've kept that illegal, un-wed mother out of the “Holy Land” and avoided this whole mess….

Those who constantly quote Biblical scripture to further their cause are misuing the mercy of the Lord. If they believe one of the primary objectives of Jesus is to protect our borders from immigrants, then we, as immigrants would not have displaced the Native American Indians who were treated, and continue to be treated unmercifully by our goverment, – rather the Native Americans would be governing us. Far to many of those who constantly quote scripture may spend a lot of time talking to the Lord but unfortunately for us all, few of them spend any time listening to what He has to say back.

It is funny, republicans love using the bible to support their political policy like being anti-gay marriage. Seems they only like to use it when it serves their purposes but not when it doesn't.

Dumbfuckistan speaks again.

Maybe it's some other idiotic interpretation of 'Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's….'

wish there was some place where these brain-dead posers could be sent where they can inbreed themselves into extinction, locked away from normal, reasonable people….

It's much easier to love Christ than it is to follow his teachings.

Actually, the story is that she wasn't an illegal, she was going home to participate in a census that never actually occurred in real life.

Don't forget that you have a right under the Christian Bible to kill anyone who wears cotton/poly blends, without legal repercussion.

Wow.

What a bigoted steaming pile of monkey crap.

Last time I talked to Jesus, he told me the pastrami at the Oinkster in Eagle Rock is better than The Hat.

He was right, as He always is….

Keeps them from the real issues.

Like how most illegal aliens aren't from Mexico or the Americas.

Prove me wrong if you think it's crap.

Actually, all we need is video on the news of billionaire Central Valley growers in orange jump suits picking up trash on the side of the road, and the “carrot” will disappear.

If they acknowledged that, they would also have to admit that St. Ronnie the Daft's plan was a failure.

They can't admit that the Great Bankrupter was a failure!

Last I heard, these are the figures:

1492-15, 000, 000 natives living in the Americas.

2000's-5 million.

Res ipsa loquitur.

I have often wondered why these christers get inheritance money when a relative dies. According to them, they are go to heaven and are alive. The inheritance should be put in escrow until they claim it.

I have often wondered why these christers get inheritance money when a relative dies. According to them, they are go to heaven and are alive. The inheritance should be put in escrow until they claim it.

So you have no evidence. You have to prove res ipsa loquitur and not simply state it for the sake of expediency.

Obviously, (I thought!) I was making a joke. I don't believe there is a shred of evidence for most 'history' in the Bible.
Which would leave one with the Bible as allegory; lessons of morality completely lost on the right-wing literal interpretation of the Bible

The evidence is in your bigoted post, and it speaks for itself. Reread it, if you can.

What needs to be established is if my point is correct or incorrect. The Holy Spirit is what changes the heart of men and provides salvation. No amount of meditation, mantras, or rituals will impute perfection to mankind in a Christian, biblical worldview. I agree that I am bigoted in the sense that I believe not all options are equally valid or true. Islam is not a loving, tolerant religion like many like to claim while Mormonism is little more than a cult of men aspiring to become gods living near the distant star of Kolob. You obviously agree that not all worldviews are equal because you think Christianity to be lesser than some other worldview perspective. I could just as easily deride you for your bigotry. So unless you can disprove my point that all major religions except Christianity require man to seek his own perfection then I suggest that you don't boldly claim something that you know almost nothing about.

What needs to be established is if my point is correct or incorrect. The Holy Spirit is what changes the heart of men and provides salvation. No amount of meditation, mantras, or rituals will impute perfection to mankind in a Christian, biblical worldview. I agree that I am bigoted in the sense that I believe not all options are equally valid or true. Islam is not a loving, tolerant religion like many like to claim while Mormonism is little more than a cult of men aspiring to become gods living near the distant star of Kolob. You obviously agree that not all worldviews are equal because you think Christianity to be lesser than some other worldview perspective. I could just as easily deride you for your bigotry. So unless you can disprove my point that all major religions except Christianity require man to seek his own perfection then I suggest that you don't boldly claim something that you know almost nothing about.

*facepalm*

*facepalm*

Your last line there proves your bigotry. You know nothing about what I know or don't know.

You're view of Christianity is different than others views of Christianity. Your hatred of other religions shines through your comments.

Thank you for proving all of my points.

GOP says crazy thing to get attention. We give it attention #14,913

I'm asking you to tell me what you know. I know you disagree with me and with Christianity. You like many others think that there are many valid interpretations of Scripture, but there are not. For instance, illegal immigration is not supported with Scripture; only those in denial or those with a lousy understanding of Hebrew and Greek would claim otherwise. Scripture is not meant to be loosely interpreted to suit one's needs, what it meant then is what it means now as evidenced by Matthew 5:18. So, my view is the literalist, scriptural view. By the way, it helps to bring ammunition when you are going to a shootout.

I know that you are a religious bigot. I know that you don't know anything about me, yet you make bigoted pronouncements.

I know that you must live in a fantasy world. I do have the ammo-the only thing I need to say is that you have one (bigoted) interpretation, and other people have other interpretations.

Since you are the one that is filled with hate and intolerance, you lose.

Jesus Christ’s words have been distorted to suit the political and social agenda for aeons.

Jesus Christ’s words have been distorted to suit the political and social agenda for aeons.

Face it, Jesus would not like the neocons at all

I think that was the Lord speaking to the REST of the world on behalf of any Republicans who may travel outside our borders. Unless Leviticus was really talking about Trigg.

How smug of you. All religions, except for your personal beliefs, are inferior and thus invalid. Your postings indicate that you are a brainwashed dolt with no shred of curiosity, intellectual or otherwise. What is the object of debating something that is pure fantasy and conjecture? Spouting unfounded opinions and saying they're true because you happen to believe them is a pretty flimsy starting point for any intelligent discourse.

Last time I spoke with Jesus he said: “next time, please, just SHOOT me!”

The problem is is that you cannot prove my statement to be false. I've read a quite a bit on other religions and none resemble Christianity in terms of man being sinful by nature and requiring grace alone as a means of salvation. We could talk about moksha or the Eightfold path or meditative mantras that supposedly purify one's mind, but all of those mean that man affects change. Allah is supposedly merciful, but still demands good works as well as sincere faith. Ones good deeds must outweigh his bad deeds and if Allah wills it, you can achieve Paradise. In the end, it boils down to just a couple of questions: Did I do enough good works to appease Allah? Was my repentance sincere enough? Just read Sura 5:9 or 42:26 for a better understanding of Islam's blend of grace and works.

Mormonism's approach to sin and salvation can be be summed up by Spencer Kimball, the 12th President(and Prophet) of the LDS church who said “Being perfect means to triumph over sin. This is a mandate from the Lord…He would never require anything from his children which was not for their benefit and which was not attainable. Perfection therefore is an achievable goal”

For the record, I don't despise the people misled by these faiths, I feel sorry for them and wish them to come to know a better faith. Lastly, you like just about everyone else is begging the question when you claim my beliefs to be false, but yet you provide no substance to back up your claim. I will gladly engage you on the ontological or epistemological issues if you want. If you don't believe in God, how do you account for moral standards? If you claim that you believe in no moral standards, then you have essentially contradicted yourself by claiming that there are no moral absolutes EXCEPT that there are no moral absolutes(which is, of course, a moral absolute). I can gladly continue, but I have a feeling you won't want to, or rather, be able to.

I think you might be a lawyer since you cited “res ipsa loquitur”, and, if so, your debating abilities leave a lot to be desired . You don't the ammo, because the only thing that you have said is insufficient. If I refused to believe the heliocentric theory and instead put my allegiance behind the geocentric theory would you support my obviously misguided outlook? It would seem bigoted of you to do anything otherwise based on your reasoning. Wrong is wrong, my friend. Lastly, what makes you think that I am filled with hate? Because you are wrong there as well.

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To get to the other side of the sand box? No? How about, the other side of the sand box is always more gray?

After reading your first sentence I realised I don't need to read the rest of your irrational garbage. But let me explain something to you – You made the statement, therefore you have to prove that it's true. Unless you can I suggest that you shut the fuck up.

It is amazing how some people are serious about fairy tales from the desert. It is the same as if one start analyzing Pinocchio, or Snow White. Actually it is not, no one killed so far in the name of Pinocchio. This statement is particularly self describing: ” If you don't believe in God, how do you account for moral standards?” How come, if you are gullible, you own moral standards?

Not Pilate, Herod the Great who died (oddly enough) in 4 B.C.

Why are Republicans quoting the Bible period? They do not follow it so why quote it?

Oh yee of little faith, did thee not know that the Kingdom of God is in Arizona?

Wasn't it the neocons who crucified Jesus?

They're wrong. Those Christians are wrong. They're using the Torah in a liberal way, not the way it was written. The AZ immigration law is Biblical. Absolutely Biblical. PROOF:

EX 32:27 “Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbor.

EX 32:27-29 With the Lord's approval, the Israelites slay 3000 men.

LE 27:29 Human sacrifice is condoned.

NU 21:3 The Israelites utterly destroy the Canaanites.

DT 3:6 The Israelites utterly destroy the men, women, and children of Og.

JS 8:22-25 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly smites the people of Ai, killing 12,000 men and women, so that there were none who escaped.

I have several DOZEN more there those came from. So, again, I tell you that those Christians are quoting the Bible OUT OF CONTEXT. The AZ law is 100% Biblically sanctioned. Death to the invaders!

The lawyer wanted to justify himself, so he asked Jesus, “And who is my neighbor?”Parable of the Good Samaritan follows..Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?” The expert in the law replied, “The one who had mercy on him.” Jesus told him, “Go and do likewise.”

The lawyer wanted to justify himself, so he asked Jesus, “And who is my neighbor?”Parable of the Good Samaritan follows..Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?” The expert in the law replied, “The one who had mercy on him.” Jesus told him, “Go and do likewise.”

Nice array of fallacies here. Instead of epithets and prejudicial conjecture, how about you respectfully demonstrate to me why you believe the Bible to be false. So, are you arguing that I'm gullible for believing that moral standards exist? Your point about killing in the name of faith is inconsequential to my position since people abuse Scripture all the time, but that abuse has no bearing on the Scripture itself. How about the laws of logic? Can you prove to me why something atemporal and incorporeal like the the laws of logic exist and persist in your relativistic worldview? Are they merely conventions of man? No, because something like the law of identity is used universally by everyone because we all must be able to identify something as itself(think about how you know an apple to be an apple or a toothbrush to be a toothbrush). Furthermore, while people certainly reason incorrectly, imagine the insanity if people reasoned using conflicting systems of logic that were as numerous and varied as language.

Nice array of fallacies here. Instead of epithets and prejudicial conjecture, how about you respectfully demonstrate to me why you believe the Bible to be false. So, are you arguing that I'm gullible for believing that moral standards exist? Your point about killing in the name of faith is inconsequential to my position since people abuse Scripture all the time, but that abuse has no bearing on the Scripture itself. How about the laws of logic? Can you prove to me why something atemporal and incorporeal like the the laws of logic exist and persist in your relativistic worldview? Are they merely conventions of man? No, because something like the law of identity is used universally by everyone because we all must be able to identify something as itself(think about how you know an apple to be an apple or a toothbrush to be a toothbrush). Furthermore, while people certainly reason incorrectly, imagine the insanity if people reasoned using conflicting systems of logic that were as numerous and varied as language.

Nope, I made my case and I'm really perplexed as to why people like yourself are so taken aback by my assertion that no other religion resembles Christianity. There is no faith like Christianity where man is seen as being inherently sinful and needing God's grace to acquire righteousness. All other faiths require a certain degree of man-made perfection. Islam demands good works as well as Allah's grace. Buddhism requires man's actions and thoughts to be purified by means of adhering to the Eightfold Path, mantras, meditative koans and the like. The same goes for Hinduism. And Mormons see God as having been a man at one time. So, they too dream of becoming gods themselves. I quoted an old LDS Apostle's thoughts on perfection and I guess that didn't satisfy your need for proof. I imagine nothing will. How about you demonstrate examples of other faiths requiring salvation to be imputed to an inherently corrupt man by means of faith alone?

Couldn't the headline just as easily have said, “House Democrats: 'Constituent need' doesn't mean we need to care”? Obama's “Cat Food Commission” – setting out to attack social programs as frivolous “entitlements” – isn't much different in essence – just a different rationale. The real “god” of any politician, D or R, is the MIC whose campaign donations fill his campaign chest. The Dem. Party's liberals pass out big corporate welfare checks (bailouts, grants, tax breaks & subsidies) and make a pretense of reestablishing regulation (OSHA safety standards/ oil rigs/ financial industry)- but negotiate with transnational corporations so the Democrats won't be deemed “anti-business”. The majority of Dem politicians then proceed to attack “entitlements” as deficit hawks – never seeking to reduce the Defense budget, or any other corporate welfare program.

For all the reasons I stated in my 1st paragraph, I think this article is nothing but good Democratic Party PR – a distraction from the issues.

Oh, you again. If you think I’m wrong about God then prove to me without using God’s consistent nature to explain why we have something atemporal and incorporeal like the laws of logic. And no they aren’t man made conventions. So go ahead. Or what about moral absolutes? Or are you one of those folks that claims that there are no moral absolutes(which is of course….a moral absolute). I have an explanation for those two crucial facets of intelligible reality, and yet I am doubtful that you can account for either of the two in your worldview. Just the fact that you think I’m wrong about my beliefs demands that you think you are morally superior to me. And if you do assert that there are moral absolutes then who or what sanctioned them?

I do not think that this is place to discuss such subject, and I am sure we are not going to discover much new that would benefit readers. It is quite obvious we have opposite views, so before we even start we know that we will have no common ground. Additionally belief is something personal that doesn't need to be shared, let alone forced to anyone to have the same. Please note, I am talking about belief and not religion, since one with each other has nothing in common, quite opposite. If it is by the religion we will still burn people alive, on the Pacific Cost we will jump to the abyss since Earth is flat and there is nothing after the edge, just to name the few. Oh, Wright brothers, Neil Armstrong, Einstein are witches, right? They do not float… Religion is nothing but the fight for power, that has lost its game long time ago, but it is still trying. Rewriting the school books, home schooling and other tricks will just affect kids with already damaged views from religious parents and advance the rest. I guess self inflicted natural selection. Please, just keep going with your advertising, it works well.
All the best

Why would you support any employer paying anyone as little as humanly
possible to do labor. Minimum wage laws were passed to protect ALL
workers. What justifies your exclusion of farm workers from any
other? I will tell you why. You support slave wages. So long as your
oranges are cheap you can care less who suffers for the good deal you
get.

To claim that I think the Wright brothers to be witches is nothing more than a straw man argument. It's worthless especially since I never said it. Also, you make the mistake by conflating man made atrocities like the Salem Witch Trials and the Spanish Inquisition with the true message of Scripture. Both of those horrid examples represent abuses and aberrations of Scripture. Of course, man screws things up, what else is new? I'm sorry if you can't see the difference.

Thank you for proving me right on all of my points.

Pardon me, snapperhead, but this was your assertion “…all people ultimately need Christ; it is because we are all flawed and incapable of achieving perfection on our own.”

Until you can prove this assertion then the rest of your “My religion is better than their religion” & “You must believe what I believe” is garbage. Prove your first assertion then I will be happy consider the rest of your words.

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I would imagine that you think men are imperfect in thought and deed, right? We speak and certainly reason imperfectly at times too. Daily experience certainly tells us this. Basically, everyone has a made at least one mistake in their lifetime and that includes answering test questions incorrectly, flawed memories and the like. I hope you don't disagree with me there.

In regard to the essay, I would ask the guy what his presuppositions are for “doing what is right”. What constitutes righteousness? Is that righteousness fixed or does it fluctuate depending on one's circumstances? And as I have told others, if the idea of incorporeal and atemporal things (like God) that are not subject to empirical study are to be thrown out, then why use the laws of logic? Things like the law of identity and the law of the excluded middle are crucial to navigating reality as we know it, but a godless world can't account for something that is universal and incorporeal and atemporal like the laws of logic.

God's nature is consistent and unchanging and God is certainly incorporeal. Allah is not consistent, Hindu gods are not either and which Hindu god do we choose as a moral example anyway? Heck, Muhammad righteously murdered scores of Jewish tribesmen in Medina just because they refused to see his bellicose cult as being truly righteous. All he had to do was conveniently declare that he had received a new revelation condoning the murder of infidels, and BAM, it's suddenly alright to murder in some scenarios. Joseph Smith and the Mormons also lay claim to a fickle and inconsistent God. Ironically, Joseph Smith gave his blessing to the Mormon vigilante group, the Danites, in 1838 to threaten, pillage, and kill Missouri Christians that refused to see the goodness of Mormonism.

And unfortunately, God demands our affection for the sake of salvation; it can't be given to those that scoff at him but supposedly lead righteous lives. God is just in that he is consistent and merciful because he gave the unworthy Israelites a system of absolution in burnt offerings that required bloodshed (foreshadowing the saving blood of Christ). Now, we are no longer bound to the old covenant and God is again merciful when imputing the righteousness of Christ to our wretched, sinful selves as long as we lovingly accept Christ into our hearts. Paul wrote that in Romans 2:15 that the law is written on our hearts whether we like it or not. You may remember that even the Egyptians were beholden to God, so no one has an excuse. I'm glad to provide more evidence of the doctrinal incongruity in other religions but that could take quite awhile. If you specific issues then I'd be glad to answer them the best I can.

“if the idea of incorporeal and atemporal things (like God) that are not subject to empirical study are to be thrown out, then why use the laws of logic?”

In other words, you can't prove your assertion and are not going to bother trying. But, you are going to continue spewing out your garbage as if you had because for you the fact that you believe is proof enough.

Let's look a little further – Logic cannot account for God, but only God can account for logic – WTF?!! Stop shoving those gummi worms up your nose, little fella.

You did write one accurate sentence though – “We speak and certainly reason imperfectly at times too.” Damn straight, and you are a perfect example. Sadly for you, your reasoning will never be anything other than garbage because it is based upon fantasy, even your childish attempt to prove the superiority of your fantasies stems from a facile understanding (possibly because you believe that you are approaching them from a position of superiority) of those other religions. Your explaination of hinduism was hilarious in its ignorance.

“God demands our affection for the sake of salvation; it can't be given to those that scoff at him but supposedly lead righteous lives.”

Prove it…. oops. Sorry, I forgot. You can't, so you won't. Now, if you'll excuse me, I've wasted enough time pissing into the wind.

Tell me. What do I have to prove about the laws of logic? Do you believe that the law of identity is false? I don't know how to prove A=A without relying on long-winded proofs. Is that what you want? God is consistent and logical by His nature.

Upon further review of Hinduism, I see that instead of there being 330 million gods, that there are likely 33 types of divine manifestations. The Sanskrit word for “class or type” is identical to “ten million”. Still, you should read this(http://nirmukta.com/2009/11/29/to-err-is-human-–-a-skeptical-reading-of-the-ramayana/) concerning the immorality of Rama in the Ramayana. He is alleged to be “the ideal person” but is as corrupt as any ordinary man.

I ask one simple question: Why are there laws that govern reason? That is, if you admit that there are standards that dictate intelligibility in communication. That being said, empiricism can't validate these laws and these laws are impervious to evolution. Explain that to me. Educate me if you can.

[...] House Republicans: Bible doesn’t mean we need to care about foreigners At a hearing of the House Judiciary Committee on Wednesday, Richard Land of the Southern Baptist Convention testified in favor of comprehensive immigration reform by saying that members of his denomination “recognize a biblical mandate to care for ‘the least of these among us’ (Matthew 25:34-40), to care for the ‘strangers’ who reside in our land (Leviticus 19:34; Hebrews 13:2) and to act justly and mercifully (Micah 6:8).” [...]

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