The only cap that is needed is on their callous greed and disregard for people and the environment.

It is Time to nationalize our oil. Only we have our own interests at heart.

Hmmm, such a thing is only feasible in a democracy.

Makes sense. I said two weeks ago that this could cause the bore hole to leak by forcing oil sideways lessening the leak from the cap. They also don't want to capture it because they have to store it which would push down the price of oil.
People don't realize that oil companies bore these wells and cap them cuz they don't want to flood the market (excuse the pun). There are thousands waiting to be tapped and if they did, oil would be less than $10 barrel.
BP never wanted to capture this oil… this well was supposed to be there for future use… Now they'll have to capture it and push down the value of oil.

It wouldn't be happening if Obama didn't want it to happen.

You know, when you make absolutely wild, unfounded statements like this, it would be nice to have some, oh, I dunno, evidence? Like a picture of Obama standing on a cliffside laughing at all the plebians drowning in oil.

http://www.ronlim.com/worldarchive/bush_katrina…

Let me get this right they found the oil but were trying to seal the well. Because finding this much oil might have effected the price of oil, their profits and the ability to squeeze the government for more concessions?

What I found interesting is Adm Thad Allen yesterday confirmed all the rumors we've heard over the past several weeks about oil seeping up through cracks in the bore/seabed floor. That's why the gov is taking this a step at a time. I firmly believe BP has an ulterior motive; they're trying to mitigate the fines for the gusher. In fact I believe they sell a device to measure flow rate ultrasonically; that's probably why such a device wasn't used, so they could “shade the truth”.

hiding the true spill is also why they've been dumping boat loads of corexit into the water … so the oil sinks and can't be measured

Unf***ingbelievable!

A real governor would be calling out their National Guard and sweeping these liars and thieves off the people's beaches and issuing warrants for BP executives.

Of course that's impossible, because of this unconstitutional, illegal Federalized national guard system, which puts Guardsmen under the command of the Pentagon fascists and sends them off in foreign wars to die for Washington's cronies and Wall Street profiteers while their own states are reeling, bankrupt, and overrun by thugs, criminals, and mercenaries.

What a farcical end to the Republic and the Constitution.

I would love to believe that to be the case, but unfortunately supply and demand have little to do with the price of oil….I know…say it ain't so…but it's true!

Zionist plot – they are even using Kanomi's “unconstitutional, illegal Federalized national guard system.”

This blog is contaminated with the blogs of ESL, 3rd world morons, many of whom follow the cartoon prophet.

Yeah Obama is out bringing all these malefactors to justice….swift justice. You have to understand when Obomb'ya throws out a crumb, like standing in the beach, and working an, in actually, non-binding deal with BP we should fall over each other thanking the heavens, convincing ourselves about how he STANDS UP to the huge republican majority.

Everytime I think about the momentum this guy just PISSED away I can not believe it. Well unless that was the plan to begin with.

I think the conspiracy theories are a bit overwrought. The govt. will have plenty of evidence of enormous flow rates should they need to sue BP for the fines. There is enormous incentive for BP to settle on very high numbers.

And that's just BP's civil exposure, before any criminal actions, which are definitely on the table given the facts.

I suggest that you turn to NPR and today's Talk of The Nation. The expert on that program did not validate the notion that there is some other agenda. The hold ups were, according to him, the result of the administration saying “wait a minute,” and getting some other opinions. These resulted in questions that hadn't been thought of, apparently. Also, explanations for stopping the drilling on the two relief wells were provided. It seemed logical and reasonable. Let's go there before we begin to look for conspiracies,

Another reason to consider whether it's worth boycotting BP gas stations.The wind of revolt is sweeping the US. Outraged by the never-ending oil slick in the Gulf of Mexico, an increasing number of Americans are boycotting BP gas stations. http://www.newslook.com/videos/229737-bp-consum…

Another reason to consider whether it's worth boycotting BP gas stations.The wind of revolt is sweeping the US. Outraged by the never-ending oil slick in the Gulf of Mexico, an increasing number of Americans are boycotting BP gas stations. http://www.newslook.com/videos/229737-bp-consum…

Well n3542576, if that is your real name, good to see religious bigotry and historical ignorance go hand in hand. Go back to blowing Rush Limbaugh's cock, it's getting soft again.

Information deprivation fuels the conspiracy theorists just as our appetite for petrol fueled this entire event.. give us what we want THE TRUTH !!!!!!

What the fuck is your problem, regardless of the issue and topic being discussed, you always relate it to some “Israel-Jew-Zionist” talking points, & never refrain from expressing your racism towards Arabs & Muslims. I think you are one of those “white nationalist Neo Nazi skinhead” diphit who pretend to represent pro Israeli sentiments in order to stigmatize hatred and resentment towards Jews.

you should try expanding your horizons dude…you're are making yourself look like an idiot…

So, if I read this correctly, USCG Admiral Thad Allen is colluding with BP at the expense of the environment, marine life and the economy of the Gulf region. Where exactly is Obama on all of this?

Letting private industry run the show.

They always do a better job, don't ya know.

By current estimates the fine would be in the neighborhood of 38 billion. There is no way they will be asked to pay that fine, much less a larger one due to better measurements. By having the government delay the test, effectively controlling the test, BP will claim the government was in control and is responsible if this cap blows. They will claim they are exempt from further damages.

Obama only knows what Rahm and the DLC-corporate Dems tell him. We are SO screwed.

Here is a great video about consumer outrage at BP

http://www.newslook.com/videos/229737-bp-consum…

Huh? BP already committed to a $20B escrow, which is the first, not last, of their payments. I see no evidence, for political reasons at least, to think they won't be held to $38B or more.

Doesn't it seem stupid to complain about the well being capped? Maybe the guys right, maybe we'll lose a billion dollars in fines, but Olberman's complaint makes liberals look dumb.

FFS get a grip – “ulterior motive for capping the well…” – yeah, coz everyone knows they have a vested interest in allowing the spill to continue unchecked. If this is what's passing for 'journalism' at Raw nowadays, then you've just surpassed the conspiracy theorist who are sustained by Glenn Beck's drivel.

Still, isn't it well…odd that BP ignored the EPA up until now, flouting actual law, but suddenly when “a number of scientists” have “questions” they halt all operations until the mysterious questions were answered? C'mon, unlike the dispersant, there was no paperwork, no law, just…vague “questions”…

er…they are continuing with the relief wells. After 85+ days BP is going to be so deep in fines they will never find their way out. Today and 15 more days till the relief wells are not goign to make much difference. They will use the experts estimates on the flow anyways.

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Yes of course, in this great day of transparency!

Actually, that's a $40 billion escrow, FYI. Also, as they STILL have not paid fines OSHA issued in 2005, what, precisely, makes you thing they plan on paying what they owe?

With BP, EPA, NOAA, OSHA, MMR, etc.

I trust NPR about as much as I trust BP.

Just like there are no toxins in the air, water, ground, etc, and the cleanup workers all have food poisoning? Wake up.

Um, the Protocols of Zion were proven to be fake a long time ago, dude.

well, considering 40% (probably more) of the Gulf floor is covered in a lake of oil, I concur.

You hit the nail on the head with the last sentence.

BP provided quite a bit of $$ for his campaign, oh-so-bright-one. Evidence enough, thanks.

No, it's time to find alternate ways to fuel our fancy gadgets, genius.

Yeah, but we live in a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy.

They don't actually care, unless it costs them money. If they could have thrown $75 mil at the US Government and said, “Adios!” BP would have done it. They did get their repug flying monkeys in Congress to try to let them do just that.

Different set of facts. Assuming they'll cop to those rather than choose pure obstruction.

If there are legitimate questions about the resulting backpressure issues, complaining about the well being capped is a very smart thing to do.

Perhaps you didn't listen carefully to the video. BP does not know the condition of the well bore nor do they have a grasp of the questions much less the answers to the questions. It makes liberals look smart.

If the USG stops BP from Ramboing in without having at least a good idea of the results of what capping that well might be, BP has no standing in demanding a liability cap.

Whispers out of the gulf area have BP still trying to cut costs every step of the way. Wasn't there a time in America when Tony Hayward would have been tarred, feathered and rode out on a rail?

Things might be different if the US government was prepared to deal with this kind of problem, but they weren't. Free-market repugs with their fantasy-world ideas knew KNEW that BP would be able to handle any contingency, no problem.

Bravo! Someone who understands how the real world works.

The US government is still rolling around in the Chimpy/Cheney years where they thought good government was a giant game of informational keep-away.

They reclassified a WW I document about disappearing ink. Something you can buy at any magic store.

And the people who did that kind of dumb crap aren't yet out of the government.

Depriving information? go to BP's website, theres live footage of their undersea operations, twice daily conference calls transcriptions, technical updates, capping rates.

The information is their you'd just rather get it from someone / somewhere who conveniently supports your point of view. (and yes before you say it; I can see how you would 'see the irony' in that.

I thought all you conspiritards hated mass media anyway? surely an industry expert must be under control of the 'BIG OIL' eh?

I won't devolve too much into the response to this guy
-BP have been pretty transparent about flow figures (even when people misunderstood the worst possible estimate and claimed it as an actual figure).
-Any fines based on the actual flow rate wouldn't be applicable to before that measurement (if your counter is 'they could extrapolate' – then what's stopping them doing that without an exact measurement)
-I'm pretty sure BP's main concern is preventing anymore leaks, and stopping the DD2/3 wells while doing the pressure test is a smart move to prevent any communication, thinking they should be pressing ahead while doing tests is reckless.
-The Blowout Preventers were manufactured by Cameron, USA. I notice that got no mention while BP is taking plenty of stick.
-The 'guvvernment' specified the delay in testing, not BP. I imagine there would be an article on your site titled 'BP ignoring government safety tests!'

Disclosure: I'm not a lawyer, I'm not a BP employee, I'm not an 'Industry Expert or huffingtonpost editor, I'm just someone who reads facts and thinks logically.

That, of course, would be YOUR problem. And no, I am not a fan of BP OR any
corporation. Your post causes me to wonder, however…Here you are, on a
liberal blog. Most liberals are fairly sentient and tend to not wear tin
foil hats (to keep the sounds away). You don't seen to fit the image. It must
be difficult living in your skin.
JGug

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stella_elayne wrote, in response to JGug1:

I trust NPR about as much as I trust BP.

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gee, if i remember right, the last quarter report was 9 billion profit. so no profit for the queen to share with the minions. my gosh.

Well, I also have issues with the journalism at Raw these days: “On Tuesday, Coast Guard Admiral Thad Allen delayed the tests for 24 hours out of fears that they would lead to “irreversible leakage” if it was found that the well bore had been damaged below the sea floor.”

Odd. Thad Allen retired from the Coast Guard in June, and was named as head of this task force. He is now a civilian, with rumors of him having lobbied for a BP job BEFORE the blowout.

No mention of that here, nor his retirement.

I know that, thank you, but that is a campaign finance reform issue and has nothing to do with the statement I was addressing, which, by the way, *you* didn't make. Are you trying to tell me that a statement that any politician would *want* for hundreds of millions of gallons of oil to gush into the Gulf of Mexico is a rational thing to assume and then posit? Is that a reasonable assumption simply because of campaign contributions, oh condescending one? “They gave me money, I'll just let them fuck up the ocean. So let it be done!”

The Bleeding Poop people are like demented National Forest fire fighters that start fires, so they will get money to put them out.

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Don't you just love all the conspiracy theory kooks that come out of the wormwood just when we need a good laugh. I suppose the CIA is behind it all. No? Maybe the Russians -no, I know, its the Taliban!!!

this whole thing is absolutley nausiating i hate these dirty rotten bloody british terrorist releasers & oil clean up worker killers

I am afraid you are right.

Precisely!

They conveniently packet what they want us to know,, just like the wars we wage don't show the whole picture… give them three camera feeds, two daily reports, and secretly bury the dead.
In this case we conspiratards think its being buried in the gulf landfills ! .

your a fucking idiot, the cooky bullshit comes from the corporate media, news is the shit they dont want us to know (just about everything in this crooked decaying empire) wake the fuck up dip shit!

release ALL the psi recordings to the public
..we demand to see the well pressure data..

release ALL the psi recordings to the public
..we demand to see the well pressure data..

On July 14th, I said this too !!!!!

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/102/337/BP_cap_i…

>”Sunday was the first time I heard the words 'well integrity test.' There's never been any discussion about this in their public disclosure or in anything else that I've seen. …

He's either kidding or lives under a rock. Some expert.

What does the Queen have to do with this?

No you don't think, you spew. You are the opposite viewpoints of Glenn Beck….but the same “logic”. No facts, just “it's all a conspiracy and only us smart guys behind our computers know about it”.

I think what I'm addressing are the political ramifications, I'll leave the scientific possibilities under the “what if” category. I like Olberman immensely, I like him for getting Rachel her own show even more.

But I'm looking at a very serious problem with the fall elections and seeing Olberman shoot himself in the political foot does not give me a lot of confidence.

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That was back in America, which ended in the 1980's. It was taken over by Big Business Global, which has usurped the rights once held by the people.

As you recall, BP “supposedly” had the science. Then we discovered “Oh no!! BP doesn't have a clue about science.” So then, finally, the experts available in academia and in government discovered that BP was trying to pull a fast one. So BP continued to spread the dispersants creating these large plumes of oil just under water so that they could then go back and recover it. Also, since it's not visible to the naked eye, who's to know the difference? And Big Oil and Big Business continue to f&ck with everyone thinking they hold the winning cards. In this case and in this case only, there is so much information available that in the end, BP will either go broke or get bought by Exxon Mobile and there goes the Clean Water fine and we, the people, will end up on the short end of the stick again.

Yep, this is what I say. They wanted to know if they could seal it FIRST, then discussions can continue on IF THE CLOSING OF THE WELL IS NECESSARY. I fully expect them to balk when it comes to KILLING the well. We will see.

BP DID have the science. No one in this country knew MORE about what was
trying to be done than BP. Perhaps, the Russians have experience. There was a
report of a Russian submersible that was doing research in Lake Balkail.
The leader of that expedition suggested that his experience might help. In
my view, the administration did everything that could possibly have been
done to push forward….I DO NOT like the reports of journalists being kept
from their jobs by BP. I suspect also, that you are not correct in your
assessment that so much information is available that the conclusion is a slam
dunk and I also suspect that BP, which Obama pressed to set aside funds for
assistance, will not go broke.
By the way, as an aside, what do you think of all the reports of the “cash”
businesses that may now have some difficulty documenting what their worth
was? As you know, I am certain, “cash business” is a euphemism for cheating
on your taxes….So, they have paid taxes on say, $40,000 for twenty years
when they really took in $80,000 or so…..What should BP have to give
them now?
JGug

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ladygeekIT wrote, in response to JGug1:

As you recall, BP “supposedly” had the science. Then we discovered “Oh
no!! BP doesn't have a clue about science.” So then, finally, the experts
available in academia and in government discovered that BP was trying to
pull a fast one. So BP continued to spread the dispersants creating these
large plumes of oil just under water so that they could then go back and
recover it. Also, since it's not visible to the naked eye, who's to know the
difference? And Big Oil and Big Business continue to f&ck with everyone
thinking they hold the winning cards. In this case and in this case only,
there is so much information available that in the end, BP will either go
broke or get bought by Exxon Mobile and there goes the Clean Water fine and we,
the people, will end up on the short end of the stick again.

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The trouble is you say you are thinking logically from the facts….but the facts are what you have been told…and you want the truth…contradiction of terms!!!

Pratically all of the MSM is pwned by the corporatocracy – about 6-10 individuals and corporations. Both CBNC and Bloomberg have privately told other reporters that they are being told to “talk up” the news rather than report on the unfolding disasters.

@BP Time Bomb .com: It amazes me that no one ever stops to think before they spout racist comments. OF COURSE a giant oil corporation will do something like this when they are drilling off the shore of a country that has almost NO REGULATION of it's companies. BP is only doing what we allow every other large company to do in this country: run with as little regulation or responsibility as possible which equates into them doing what is the best for their bottom line and not what is best for people or the environment. Yes BP is a big bad evil corporation. So are MOST of the corporations in the world because most of the time, they are looking after their bottom line. Don't act surprised when companies do things like this, for years we have heard the cry of “NO NO NO! We don't want regulation of business!”. Then people get upset when companies do shady shit? Ha! Do you know why Britain hasn't had a disaster like this? Because they had an oil rig explosion that killed many people quite a few years back and they LEARNED from it and increased regulation!
Oh and honestly? We don't even need that many more regulations. We just need to actually enforce the ones we have.

At the moment the government stepped into any aspects of control over BP's technical decision making, they assumed legal risks for outcomes.

You three decreeing that my 'facts' are misinformation – go fuck yourself. you can't counter an argument with 'you've just been lied to' – this is exactly what I mean when I say conspiritards.

You don't have an actual retort to hard facts so you go with the 'you're a sheep / you only know what they want you to know'.

Do any of you actually have a good counter? nope dint think so.

Yeah that too, and thankyou for calling me a genius. Not enough people recognize my genius.

I am not arguing whether or not we can get real news from the major, well
known media. HOWEVER, it IS available.
JG

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Pratically all of the MSM is pwned by the corporatocracy – about 6-10
individuals and corporations. Both CBNC and Bloomberg have privately told
other reporters that they are being told to “talk up” the news rather than
report on the unfolding disasters.

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Yes BPs ulterior motive is to pass Obamas Cap and Trade Bill and His Carbon Tax Bill. And plus they would love to have thousands of people displaced and homeless and dying slowly from all of those chemicals. Why? Because the International Bankers own and rule BP and they want to enslave the whole world under their New World Order Antichrist Beast System. Where they will rule the whole world and bring it under the control and rulership of their lord Lucifer; who has taught them how to steal huge amounts of wealth by their wars and Federal Reserve Beast System!! But then they will have a larger war; and then they will force whats left of the world after this bigger war to take their mark of the beast chip in peoples foreheads or right hand. And everybody who doesn't take it will be killed and hunted down.

But don't worry!! After they have killed most of us; the Great God of Heaven will return with His mighty angels from heaven and conquer them all in hours!! And judge them and sentence them into the great lake of fire and brimstone!! While we who know Jesus will be living a wonderful and glorious life on the renovated and beautified Earth for 1000 years of bliss and glory!!

BP is the old British East India company, run by the Bank of England. Do some homework on who the royal family is, and who BP was.

It does no good to boycott BP stations, you're getting the same product elsewhere. BP jobbers and owners are not not affiliated with BP, you're not damaging anyone but yourselves.

Better solution, let's see which protester does this: stop driving vehicles and using electricity.

The gulf of tonkin incident, along with the Sept 11th attacks, the sinking of the Lusitania, the Maine, Fort Sumter, etc. were all false flag ops conducted by the US government.

Whether the protocols were forged or not, it doesn't take away from the facts that major banking backers from London were forging these plans. Just do the homework on who the players are, and their affiliations.

Remember, Dick Cheney and Barry Obama are cousins. Bush and Kerry, cousins, same Skull and Bones, too.

Just do your homework and stop buying the media line. These things are happening in plain sight.

The bankers in London were jewish, they ran both world wars, all the wars in Europe in the 1800s, and are now positioning the US for a fall.

Do your homework. If you avoid subjects, then it is because of your own bias/prejudice.

The national guards were taken out of our country on purpose. There aren't hardly any left. Where have you been these past ten years? National guard will become “we the people” with arms, as it should be.

BP has significant US and global operations and any reference to the British people and nation as perpetrators of the leak is somewhat delusional since the British people and government have no say in the operation of what is a privately operated transnational corporation that is also important to the US from an energy perspective. BP has not been called 'British Petroleum' for many years. A number of US companies are involved with BP as well – Transocean and Haliburton.

Isn't is interesting that BP has stopped the leak on day 88, after Revelation 8:8 has gotten so much play lately? Check out this article with many other interesting connections, “What if Freedom is no longer a spectator sport?” I would like to post it here, but it's too long. Read on the website http://www.bigtimesnews.com

More of the same from this group of psychopaths who run the world's business, finance and governments. . I never used to believe such things, but you cannot make these things up. .

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