Proposed mosque sets Tennessee residents at odds

By Muriel Kane
Friday, July 16, 2010 23:12 EST
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During the American Civil War, the border state of Tennesse was bitterly divided, with pockets of pro-Union sentiment strongly opposing the secessionist majority. Today, the residents of the city of Murfreesboro are not about to take up arms against each other, but a peaceful war of words is heating up over a proposed mosque and Islamic center.

Opponents of the planned expansion by the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro say they are concerned about zoning issues and the possibility of excessive traffic. But during a protest against the center on Wednesday, several hundred marchers carried signs with slogans such as “MOSQUE LEADERS SUPPORT KILLING CONVERTS,” while others wore “Vote for Jesus” t-shirts or waved “Don’t tread on me” flags. Some expressed fears that the mosque could become a center for terrorism.

Protest leader Kevin Fisher, an African-American, insisted that his main concern was over possible soil and water contamination resulting from a single burial that had been carried out on the property “without a casket of proper embalming.”

“This has nothing to do with racism or religious intolerance at all,” Fisher stated. “”Religion. Race. These are just code words … used to distract from the real issues.”

But other marchers were less discreet. “In Islam, a mosque means ‘We have conquered this country,’” one man told the local CNN affiliate. “And where are they? They’re in the center of Tennessee. They’re going to say, ‘We have conquered Tennessee.’”

And Claire Rogers of Middle Tennesseans for Religious Freedom — which organized a slightly larger counter-protest — noted that “no one marches to a courthouse to deliver a petition based on traffic concerns. … It’s a result of Islamaphobia and misinformation about local Islamic community.”

Supporters of the Islamic Center carried signs reading “I love my Muslim neighbors” and “Freedom of religion.” One told reporters, “My family came here in 1648 — for religious freedom — from Scotland. That we have to be here for this today is sad.”

Fisher has filed a grievance against the Rutherford County Regional Planning Commission, claiming that it failed to provide adequate public notice before it considered the site plans at a May 24 hearing. The commission’s director, however, has already responded that since no zoning changes were involved, the small notice posted in a local paper satisfied all legal requirements.

The campaign manager for Republican congressional candidate Lou Ann Zelenik has also criticized the commission, and Zelenik’s Democratic opponent, Iraq War veteran Ben Leming, charges that she is attempting to use the issue to divide the community.

“What do we have to be afraid of?” Leming told a local paper. “During my deployments around the world, I have worked, trained, and broken bread with Muslims. … The people that want to build a house of worship in Murfreesboro are not the enemy.”

This video is from CNN, posted July 15, 2010.

Muriel Kane
Muriel Kane
Muriel Kane is an associate editor at Raw Story. She joined Raw Story as a researcher in 2005, with a particular focus on the Jack Abramoff affair and other Bush administration scandals. She worked extensively with former investigative news managing editor Larisa Alexandrovna, with whom she has co-written numerous articles in addition to her own work. Prior to her association with Raw Story, she spent many years as an independent researcher and writer with a particular focus on history, literature, and contemporary social and political attitudes. Follow her on Twitter at @Muriel_Kane
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  • chrislib

    George W(orst president in history) bu$h said we weren't at war with Islam. I guess he didn't mean that anymore than anything else he ever said in his diseased life.

  • jamminjohn

    Us Christians, we sure do know how to do the Lord's work and keep them heathen religions what ain't religions out of our back yard. God done knowed we done good. Praise be . . . hey brother, you gonna eat that snake?

  • starvapor

    Freedom of religion means Americans are free to choose how their delusions are delivered.

  • NadePaulKuciGravMcKi

    8 years of AIPAC Neocons selling their “Islamofascism” Propaganda

    Christianity?
    Islam?
    Secular?
    Hinduism?
    Buddhism?

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/5ADH43ZCS3NITAIJKNHHOXH5SY C H

    Religions all but two are filled with death, xenophobia, racism, sexism, violence, rape, and war. They promote hatred and strife between peoples and country's. Find a war, any war and you will find a religion behind it somewhere.

    The very idea of love, compassion and acceptance between people is all but missing in practice. No matter what religion says, what it does is different. Religion is a delusion. But being free to practice our own form of ignorance is part and parcel of being here in this country.

    There is nothing you can say to convince people that sin committed in the name of religion is bad. So I don't bother. I do not care what anyone believes as long as they do not force their own ideas of religion and of a deity on me. Unfortunately others do not feel the same. Religion has become a litmus test for everything in our lives. From politics to nearly every aspect of our lives. Someone is always willing to tell us about their conversations with a god, and his instructions on what do do and who to do it to. And always of course they know best.

    And a mosque must be the worst possible addition to any neighborhood. But let's face it, to millions of us, this holds true for any religious symbol, we just ignore those with delusions. WE are not accorded the same dignity.

    I have managed to free myself of the religious insanity that permeates the world. I would settle for decency, intelligent discourse, the free exchange of ideas and allowing all of us to deal with our own spirituality in our own way. Even in private.

  • hneftafl

    Tennessee wasn't actually a border state. Now here comes the history lesson. Spare me, I just researched it.

  • dennycrane

    I was at a vacant house the other day and about 12 teenagers converged on this cul de sac leaving a sheet of paper on peoples doors. They didn't knock, just littered. There were three older men keeping their eye out over these sheeples. I had the door opened,with a screen door. As the young girl approached with arm out, ready to fit the paper in the handle, I said, “no thanks.” And she said, “I am handing out invitations to heaven.” I said, “You must be god.” The faithful “shepherd”, gathered her up quickly.

  • concretetundra

    “George W(orst president in history) bu$h”

    Chris. I don't know if you came up with that particular spelling of GWB. But that made me literally laugh out loud. It was an honest to goodness, bona fide LOL. Thanks for putting it that way. He really was the orst president we ever had.

  • concretetundra

    I tried to post this before but my firefox keeps freezing.

    Anyway, Chris, I don't know if you came up with that particular spelling of GWB as the “orst” president ever but that made me truly laugh out loud.

  • concretetundra

    I kept trying to post with firefox but it kept freezing. I don't know who or what Disqus is but it never ever ever works on my computer. So now I've swiched browsers. Just wanted to say that that particular spelling of GWB as our “orst” president ever made me laugh out loud. Thanks.

  • Syed92

    Politicians mean the opposite of, what they spell out in words. Father Bush had promised to take action against “Fast preading Islam” in America. Son Bush promulgated 9/11 in unison with zionist entity and Christian Right. It has been successful of course, though it has divided the human race and will be a step fprward to human extinction from this planet earth.

  • cliffhammond

    And Lincoln was born in Kentucky, the border state above Tennessee.

  • cliffhammond

    I'm sorry, I didn't see any Christians in that video. What Christians are they talking about, the ones that died in the 1st Century?

  • cliffhammond

    And even that took several sessions with Karl Rove and a set of flash cards to get down.

  • http://twitter.com/shivabeach Shiva

    These people are probably the southern baptists. The most ignorant and bigoted people on earth. This is about 60 miles from me and I can tell you, nothing you say or do will sway these people from thinking the mosque may convert some of their kids or bomb their homes.

    The funny part is that the muslims had a smaller church. Now they want a big one and the world is coming to an end

  • smallbear

    I used to get Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons coming to my door and wanting to leave literature. I decided to turn the tables on them I wrote my own tracts, one on “How I Found God in the Structure of Matter”, which was a commentary on quantum physics, and another on “Chrisitanity was formed by Committee”, on the Council of Nicea. I only had to hand them out twice, once to the Jehovah's Witnesses and once to the Mormons. I told them I would read their literature if they would read mine. They've never been back since.

  • dennycrane

    Brilliant. I had a netbook with me. If I carried a scanner and printer I could have “changed” a few things on their pamphlet and exchanged it with what they were putting in the door handles.

    Maybe something like: Free Steak Dinners At Our Church For The Unemployed; or

    Fire Sale, All Things Must Go

  • enorceht

    kevin fisher's “…main concern was over possible soil and water contamination resulting from a single burial that had been carried out on the property “without a casket of proper embalming. …”

    everything dies on this earth … people have been buried in the earth for ever, animals die in desolate areas and just decompose, and if he's worried about proper embalming then he better get to the jewish burial grounds with a shovel and shut them down because jews are not embalmed

    … kevin fisher you are an idiot

  • derestanne

    Free Steak Dinners???

    As In “Burned At – The Stake?”

    Some say eat the rich while for others it's the infidels that make a tasty meal!

  • mudplanet

    and everyone knows that dead meat is so much more toxic than: embalming fluid contains a mixture of formaldehyde, methanol, ethanol and other solvents. The formaldehyde content generally ranges from 5 to 29 percent and the ethanol content may range from 9 to 56 percent.

    In the United States alone, enough embalming fluid is buried every year to fill eight Olympic-size pools or about 20 million liters.[1]

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Richard-Cleary/685251799 Richard Cleary

    If it was a Christian retreat there would be no controversy, but if it was a Christian retreat in a Muslim country, the Muslims would complain. And the Christains here would complain about the prejudice of the Muslims.
    How hypocritical!
    Logic and common sense tell you that most Muslims are not out to kill Christians and most Christians are not out to kill Muslims.
    Jesus said “Turn the other cheek.” He meant it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Richard-Cleary/685251799 Richard Cleary

    Agreed. Once you are dead, you are food for the planet.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Richard-Cleary/685251799 Richard Cleary

    Well said. Sheeple have a hard time dealing with intelligence.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Richard-Cleary/685251799 Richard Cleary

    I come to the door in my underwear with no shirt. Must have worked, because now my Saturday mornings are peaceful and there aren't any Watchtowers in my door.

  • anuran

    But targeting one religion for discrimination causes resentment. Angry mobs of bigots marching and screaming to prevent you from building your church makes people fear and mistrust the people around them. And that is the soil where extremist seeds grow.

  • Genessender

    Parts of Tennessee stayed with and fought for the Union.

  • hounddogg

    this is how i handle these people..
    http://www.venganza.org/materials/

  • Genessender

    Come on, the neocons haven't had a very hard sell. These people hate furriners on their very own. They probably don't think much of Jews either.

  • http://twitter.com/crazzeeedave dave

    while we're at it lets tear down the christian churches near the Murrow federal building

  • godistwaddle

    Some people are stupid or ignorant enough to believe the U.S. actually does have “freedom of religion.” Ask the morons (sorry, Mormons) why they don't practice polygamy any more (officially).

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/KNS2UDSXYOFR5C3KCW2SYW3FLI Dolly Dagger

    Embalming keeps undertakers in business and is a horrible insult to a human body.
    Bury me green!

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/KNS2UDSXYOFR5C3KCW2SYW3FLI Dolly Dagger

    I called the local “temples” and told them to put me on some kind of “hands off” list. It must have worked — they have been walking past my door for nearly 10 years…

  • phijef

    I hope and pray that Sarah, Rush and Beck have something to say about this. Their collective hypocrisy/racism/intolerance will shine in the spotlight.

  • DownriverDem

    Many in the south and across the country are freaking out by diversity. Even though that is what our country was founded on, to them we are talking about white founders. Sad but true.

    In many ways, I find this funny and a pleasure to watch.

  • an0id

    i encourage the people of tennessee and america to come out of the closet and step out of the shadow of fear and say “islam is cult and we dont want cults”, i encourage all of you to read the koran free of influence and judge it for yourself and you will see the insanity of thier rules and thier beliefs.

    America was a place to flee religeous oppresion yes, but muslims arnt being repressed. America is melting pot of cultures and when cultures come to america and build thier own churches that label yours as decadant and punishable and live in thier own districts they are not participating in the spirit of what we founded here in north america. Imagine if you went to iran and built a chrisitan prebesryian church and tried to follow your rules and beliefs?

    Do not accept them, they do not accept us. Muhammod was a murder and these people want to take the words and rules of that murderer and convince people that he was the word of God? No. I do not accept this. Neither should you.

  • DickTucker

    From the first quick glance I noticed the lack of capitalization of proper nouns and I knew I was in for three paragraphs of bigoted, paranoid nonsense full of syntax errors. Naturally, as I read on (why I read on, I don't know) I noticed the obligatory misspellings such as “religeous”, “oppresion” (Two in a row- nice!), “arnt”, “decadant”, “thier”, “chrisitan” (can't even spell your own religion? What would Jesus think of that?), “prebesryian” (what?!), and “Muhammod” (who was apparently a “murder”), coupled with the spew of (so-called)Christian hatred, my suspicions were confirmed. It's never a surprise when the disastrous writing mechanics coincide perfectly with the simple-minded/poisoned-minded content, but it's always good for a laugh.

    We need to step up the fight against the lack of quality education and the resulting susceptibility to the misinformation which guides these freaks like an0id.

  • Dolmance

    There's a stupid issue the Republicans can use to get people to vote against their self interests and open themselves up to PLUNDER.

  • Dolmance

    I encourage you to go soak your head.

  • DickTucker

    If Christians would only listen to Christ.

  • an0id

    I am not a Christian. Your angry at me because I didnt use a spell checker. Thats all you have? Where is the “muhommed isnt a murder” defence? Where is the “we participate in western society” arguement? You dont have one because im right.

  • an0id

    Wait wait, lol, quality of education? your attacking ME on my quality of education when people are freely roaming around believing an all knowing all seeing all powerfull being once took time out of his day to care about and speak to some dude on earth and give him rules to pass on to the rest of us. Seriously? All knowing all powerfull being who transcends time and space, is asking people on earth to write books.

    Talk about education, your pointing the finger in the wrong direction.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jess-Matz/782124235 Jess Matz

    I live in Murfreesboro and these are my neighbors. The current mosque is literally down the street from where I live and the site for the new mosque is also very close to where I live. My Muslim neighbors are hospitable, law-abiding, United States citizens. The Imam is a gentle man who wants people to be happy. They have outgrown their very very tiny mosque and need a larger facility. It is really very simple.

    I come from Irish and Native Americans, both of whom have been told “we don't want your kind here.” I can't say this to another person without great disrespect to those who came before me. Southerners were once known for their hospitality and it is high time we properly welcomed our neighbors to our community.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/Y2SF5HFC4QCXURQV654ZN3QPPY Gary Nelson

    All religions are cults of one sort or another.
    In a democracy people have a right to pick their cult.

  • dennycrane

    Nice use of the “w.”

  • dennycrane

    I wish I had a bumper sticker for this one:

    http://www.venganza.org/images/wallpapers/WWFSM…

  • dennycrane

    “When one person suffers from a delusion it is called insanity; when many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion.”
    – Robert Pirsig (1948-)

  • MaryStClaire

    Your a typical right wing hate monger, I mean Obama should come and do something about this mosque and set things right

  • bob915

    dude…..we don't have one because we cannot tell WTF you are saying…too much wading through the misspelling, the lack of punctuation, and the nonexistent capitalization. And to add to the dissent: if you will kindly look into both tomes of Christianity and of Islam, they are essentially both branches of the same root. You do not have to belong to either to follow the similar thread. If you are going to post your (that is the proper use of the word, as opposed to using it instead of you're) thoughts, try growing a thicker skin or being ready to bolster your post with some pertinent background. Peace, Shalom, and Selam

  • an0id

    Okay, you know what I'll give you that. I should probably try and avoid my early morning rants. This one is a little more refined.

    Hear me out here, there is a bottom line Im trying to get across: They dont tolerate us or respect our boundries so why would we show them the same respect back? I believe in diversity, I enjoy aspects of all cutures but what I do not respect is the insecurity and inflamatory knee-jerk reactions because someone drew a picture of a man who by historical fact was a murderer and child molestor. When someone stands up says “its diversity, religeous freedom” they are saying “if they want to abuse women molest children and execute people 'social crimes' then I support that”. France they have outright abused the welfare system, in the Netherlands they have openly stated thier intent to gain political control and change laws to align with the rulings of Islam and have threatened and killed defenders of our way of life. As long as Islam is permitted to spread and duplicate we have set our civilization down a path of repression, ignorance and violence.

    There is no selam in the Quran. None.
    If we are going to move forward as a civilization we need to cast off these medival systems of social control.

  • wiseturtle

    Bigoted, racist Christians at it again….

  • http://www.facebook.com/wodentoad Erin Lowe

    Tennessee: Last in, first out. Named the “Volunteer State” because we contributed soldiers to more wars (at that point) than any other state, including the Civil war. Many areas of our state were split and fighting here was incredibly thick. I have live on two battle grounds and near a civil war hospital in three different parts of the state.

  • wiseturtle

    Religion is a tool of the elites to keep dumb white republikkklans voting against their best interests.

  • wiseturtle

    Thanks for the wonderful idea!

  • Syed92

    Brother you are rarity, and do not go to ARIZONA!

  • theparadoxx

    “In Islam, a mosque means 'We have conquered this country,'” one man told the local CNN affiliate”

    You show me a single non-Islamic person in TN who has read a single word of the Koran and I”ll show you a guy who is lying. The bible-thumpers barely crack the bible open anywhere past the single line they take out of contest to whine about whatever and they expect us to believe they know ANYTHING about Islam.

  • rinsac

    Get used to it America, other people come here for freedom of religion and a better life, not just you and your ancestors. Get to know others who seem to be different than you. You will be pleasantly surprised!

  • rinsac

    Hooray for you Jess!!!!! You are a true American. I'm not sure what those other frightened people are!

  • rinsac

    You are so ignorant!!!!!

  • rinsac

    Check out history and see how many murders were committed in the name of Christianity.

  • cessnadriver

    Reminds me of the Ghandi quote about liking Christ but not his followers.

  • quirkydi

    These people so afraid the Muslims are going to kill them, can't see they're going
    to die from heart failure, diabetes and other weight issue diseases. I've never seen
    so many overweight people in one place before.

  • http://www.myspace.com/stunt_kitty Dan

    Are they actually coming here for a better life, or to kill us all? Look at the teachings they'll be learning in these mosques…..

    “And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]…and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah.” – Qur'an (2:191-193)

    “Fighting is prescribed for you.” – Qur'an (2:216)

    “Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers.” – Qur'an (3:151)

    “Take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks.” – Qur'an (4:89)

    “Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home)” – Qur'an (4:95)

    “O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness.” – Qur'an (9:123)

    “So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners,” – Qur'an (47:4)

    The list goes on.

    Get to know these barbarians? I'd like to keep these people as far away from me as any religious person. Islam is not the religion of peace, but of submission.

    So I struggle with the idea of “freedom of religion” because I don't like the idea of a country specifically creating and allowing a melting pot of crazy people with contradicting belief systems, who all think they are on gods side.

  • MuslimJason

    We should erect giant, permanent statutes and bill boards of the Prophet Mohammad along the road to the entry of the mosque. These statues will truly test the Muslims' tolerance for our Constitution and freedom of expression. If death threats or killings are the responses, those reactions will be telling.

  • MuslimJason

    Will those statues and billboards of the Prophet Mohammad create any kind of actual violence or property destruction from the Muslims? That is the question.

  • http://www.facebook.com/pngwen Robert Lowe

    The teachings of Christ and the Bible as a whole are but an inconvenient impediment to Christians. They don't like His philosophy or attitudes, but His name is just so darn catchy. They use the name, and forget the rest!

  • billrrrrr

    question for clair rogers are you going to go like a sheep when the muslims tell to to converts or die while holding that big knife at your throat………get a brain before you don't need one.look at the mosque in england it can hold 7000 that's a whole lot of wanabe terrorists.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jess-Matz/782124235 Jess Matz

    Hi Bob!

  • 3arthling

    I can't wait to be told to convert or die, though I'm going to feel terrible about what I will have done to the poor fellow who said it.

  • 3arthling

    Hmmm. And you couldn't find a phrase-for-phrase equivalent in the bible? Someone doesn't do a lot of reading, or is very selective about the writings from which they quote.

  • 3arthling

    Though I won't be embalmed or buried, it's good to know that with so much ethanol in embalming fluid, one can be “dead drunk”.

  • an0id

    WRWEALLY?1?!

    I had NO idea, link me or something, cuz im really interested in what you have to say now..

  • an0id

    Im ignorant? Just today i see that Muslim bus drivers in the UK are now being FORCED, against thier 'religeous right' to allow blind people to bring seeing dogs on a bus and that the transport minister had to get involved. http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/187711/Musl…

    I will not be passive about this, islam has no regard for culture or law that is not thier own, they do not respect boundries and by all apparent measure are seeking to undue 1400 years of our social evolution. I will not stand by while they subvert civic progress!

  • an0id

    Im ignorant? Just today i see that Muslim bus drivers in the UK are now being FORCED, against thier 'religeous right' to allow blind people to bring seeing dogs on a bus and that the transport minister had to get involved. http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/187711/Musl…

    I will not be passive about this, islam has no regard for culture or law that is not thier own, they do not respect boundries and by all apparent measure are seeking to undue 1400 years of our social evolution. I will not stand by while they subvert civic progress!

  • enoch1

    try reading the Bible! I have and it states to love your neighbor as yourself as one of the greatest commandments. I live in Europe and have had many discussions about religion with Muslims and have countered most arguments that they came up with and are taught with easily verifiable facts only then to be threatened with the removal of my head. A Religion does not condone the killing of cartoonists or of other persons when they do not believe as they do, nor do they kill their Daughters when they behave like their Sons and “become to western”

  • enoch1

    The Arizona law is almost word for word the same as existing Federal law that have been on the books for approximately 100 years and have withstood legal challenges in the past. for president Obama to state that they are unenforcible only shows his lack of education or his willingness to disregard established law.

  • enoch1

    Islam does not respect diversity. Just ask the people in Northern Cypress, those who believe in Christianity while living in a Muslim country, or how about those who practice a different “life style”. O wait you can not as they were either killed or are hidding so as not to be killed.

  • enoch1

    Nice try Brother. but no Christian retreat will ever be built in a Muslim Country as it is strictly forbidden. Second if you can understand a little Arabic you would know that one of the most quoted phrases of those who follow Islam is “First the Saturday People the the Sunday People”. Meaning that the wish to kill Jews and destroy Israel first then destroy the western world and Christianity. They totally believe that they must have the world subdued into Islam in order for the Mahdi (or 13th Imam) to come to earth to destroy the remnants and establish a world Government based on the Koran.

    An interesting point is that this Person is also mentioned in the Bible were he is Identified as the first horseman of the Apocalypse.

  • enoch1

    Just watched a great video of a Muslim Cleric giving instruction on how to properly beat your wife according to the koran…

    The Muslim teacher, Abdullah Aal Mahmoud, in what is apparently a mark of progress for Muslim women’s rights, states that the Quran teaches the limitations “if the husband wants to use beatings to treat is wife.”

    basically do not break any bones as she will not be able to work for a while as she recovers..

  • http://theentropyreport.com/?p=60 The Entropy Report ›

    [...] Proposed mosque sets Tennessee residents at odds [...]

  • malichimartin

    Can you defend a religious regime who’s agenda is to ultimately descry liberty, destroy freedom to worship what you wish and and ultimately enforce sharia Law
    It appears to be a clear case of hypocrisy justified by the sins of the past religious leaders. A hypocrite acts in a way contrary to what they profess to be true or believe. The Jews enforced the law of the Torah, it resulted in followers with out faith or as we say a hypocrite. When the Christians enforced the laws of the new testament it resulted in followers with out faith, or as we say hypocrites. When the Muslims enforce their laws, it will result in the same, …. hypocrites.. Time after time the wave of apostasy and hypocrites have bought death and destruction, upon man kind. . If the Muslim’s way… is not the idea of Love and peace at its critical mass, (when they have achieved there domination of a land) , then is an apostate religion of hypocrites.

    True religion is to care for one another , the homeless, the widows, the orphaned, the sick the hungry and the oppressed, to bring freedom and the example of love to all those we meet, God is clear in His word that we are to liberate others not lead them into more oppression. And I believe this also means it is not in our best interest or for freedom lands best interest to allow more apostasy into the land.. Sick makes healthily sick. Health never is a result of an infection. The apostasy and hypocrisy of the nation needs no help from the Muslims, We have done a fine job of that already.

    So , are we to protect our freedom and our lands of “freedom”? Will we be wise enough to look ahead and see the out come of a nation of Islamic rule. Don’t you understand all you female boogers would surely be put to death for your “ out spoke and evil ways”. Also , all who denied that Mohamad is the one and only true profit will be beheaded, or stoned alive buried up to your waist in sand and then stoned..
    I say we must stand up for Liberty and defend it. We now possess something never held by a nation until now. a fleeting but free choice. One to embrace God and become obedient to his holy spirit, and one to deny God and his life giving spirit which exists in all of us,… for a few years…. (on Loan until death) . But mostly we hold the chance to live in peace with all men as much as we are able, until our death. And for that we must be on guard.

    If you take away that free choice, the free choice you have, and the free choice I have Then you will achieve complete apostasy of the truth, and a false religion will be forced upon all, A Muslim nation allows for no free choice, they might as well all be robots, for out of fear and not love do they worship. They do it to obtain a false eternity, An eternity which boasts of 70 virgins , to do with what they want. Is this a place for a woman to live in eternal peace? It is an abomination and a profane thing to think of Gods kingdom in this way. God is a spiritual Being and not seduced by the flesh as we are, Why would all the self denial he asks of us in this body produce an even more carnal existence in that new and eternal body, I tell you it is a perverse thing to teach and it is from the fallen angels, Who will soon return in a “great delusion” to force upon all those who are with out knowledge of the word..

    God tells us and shows us that he never wanted a forced love from us,. like wine out of grapes. But God asks us, and wants for us to become over comers of hate and apostasy. And to be willing givers of ourselves in love. To service others in need. There is no eventual beheading of all who don’t choose to walk in love and , in the truth of God, The freedom to deny is yours. There is Just the final judgement when all are called to the judgement seat. Our Love for others and God must come from a pure faith, not a forced will.. If then the MUSLIMS gain their slow and methodic control of the world , we will all be marked for death. Any who will not bow to “Balam ” or the Mahudi, or Mohamed. We have enough apostasy in the land. Foe example , …on the even ridiculous side of true current events, we all ready have half of our nations leaders going up to the “ Bohemian Grove ” in mid. July to worship the owls of Molech, an ancient false god of the Chaldeans, … Don’t believe me ,,, Goggle it. I guess freemasonry is gaining its own apostasy. But as long as the enemy is willing to accommodate the lusts of man, there will be no shortage of this type of behavior. Why do we need to allow more false worship into this nation.

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