Anti-racist ADL ‘joins bigots’ in opposing Ground Zero mosque

By Daniel Tencer
Friday, July 30, 2010 16:26 EST
Print
 
Topics:
 

The Anti-Defamation League describes itself as “fighting anti-Semitism, bigotry and extremism,” but critics of the Jewish group’s latest move say it has joined the ranks of some of the US’s most bigoted organizations in its call to oppose the “Ground Zero mosque,” a Muslim community center being built several blocks from the site of the World Trade Center.

In a statement released earlier this week, the ADL said:

The controversy which has emerged regarding the building of an Islamic Center at this location is counterproductive to the healing process. Therefore, under these unique circumstances, we believe the City of New York would be better served if an alternative location could be found.

Proponents of the Islamic Center may have every right to build at this site, and may even have chosen the site to send a positive message about Islam. The bigotry some have expressed in attacking them is unfair, and wrong. But ultimately this is not a question of rights, but a question of what is right. In our judgment, building an Islamic Center in the shadow of the World Trade Center will cause some victims more pain – unnecessarily – and that is not right.

M.J. Rosenberg at TalkingPointsMemo points out that the ADL has now sided with such groups as the white supremacist Storm Front in opposing the mosque. “The ADL has joined some of the worst bigots in America” in opposing the mosque, Rosenberg writes.

The Washington Post‘s Greg Sargent describes the ADL’s move as “just amazing. This is basically a concession that some of the opposition to the mosque is grounded in bigotry, and that those arguing that the mosque builders harbor ill intent are misguided. Yet ADL is opposing the construction of the mosque anyway, on the grounds that it will cause 9/11 victims unnecessary ‘pain.’”

Sargent concludes: “On this one, you’re either with the bigots or you’re against them. And ADL has in effect sided with them.”

Writing at AlterNet, Joshua Holland argues that the ADL’s seemingly mixed message is a sign the group is on a “journey to irrelevance.”

Founded in 1913 by the B’nai Brith, the ADL was created in response to the conviction of Jewish businessman Leo Frank, who was found guilty in the murder of a 13-year-old girl in a case many said was a racially-motivated miscarriage of justice. Frank was kidnapped from prison and lynched by a mob in 1915.

The group today describes itself as “the nation’s premier civil rights/human relations agency.” The group “fights anti-Semitism and all forms of bigotry, defends democratic ideals and protects civil rights for all.”

In the wake of the controversy surrounding the Muslim center in lower Manhattan, there has been a growing tide of opposition among some groups to the construction of mosques across the United States. In one case, residents of Mufreesboro, Tennessee, came together to oppose the construction of a mosque there.

In another incident, an anonymous protest organizer urged followers to bring dogs to a protest outside a mosque in Riverside County, California, during Friday prayers because Muslims “hate dogs.”

Daniel Tencer
Daniel Tencer
Share this story >>
Print
 
 
 
By commenting, you agree to our terms of service
and to abide by our commenting policy.
 
  • Anonymous

    Morons…they don’t even realize 911 was done by elements of our own shadow govt.

  • Anonymous

    Morons…they don’t even realize 911 was done by elements of our own shadow govt.

  • damixaustex

    The Anti-Defamation League's position demonstrates why ground zero is exactly where the mosque should be built.

  • johnnybbad

    Israel did 9/11.

  • fritzed

    It's not exactly news that the “Anti-Defamation League” is a bunch of bigots. They only care about anti-semiticism. They believe as an institution that Lebanon does not exist and they haven't exactly been secretive about their hatred for muslims.

  • BuckJohnson

    The ADL and many of it's members are ardent racists against muslims.

  • rawstorysuspect

    The ADL also denounced Oliver Stone for saying Israel is manipulating foreign policy. They are opportunists that prey on ignorance.

  • Prattvictory

    I like how the Huffington Post ran Haim Saban's denunciation of Oliver Stone. Saban funds the pro-war pro Israel Saban Center and funds right wing causes in Israel. He made his money off the “Mighty Morphine Power Rangers”

    Haim Saban is the embodiment of what Oliver Stone denounced.

  • Foxhunter

    Just because two groups take the same position on an issue does not mean they necessarily have anything else in common. This is similar to guilt by association. In all likelyhood, Hitler probably had certain policies that I would agree with that others opposed. Does this mean I am a genocidal maniac like him? No. The ADL may, in fact, be a racist organization for all I know, but the fact that they are taking the same position as a racist organization does not necessarily make them racist. The premise of this article is bogus.

  • Prattvictory

    Are these advertisements for “the Tablet” an inducement for a more pro-Israel editorial stance?

    I'm thinking yes

  • markusgarvey

    In an effort to serve the online community best, please verify your Disqus account so that your comments will appear as soon as they are posted.Thanks

  • felixthecatxxxx

    Islam is a religion, not a race.

  • RawReader

    Well we already knew that the ADL was only PRETENDING to be against bigotry in general. They only care about one type of it, no?

  • AtlanticCapers

    The ADL said, “But ultimately this is not a question of rights, but a question of what is right.”

    Right there they admit they're not really a civil rights group, but an anti-Muslim group, because being anti-Muslim is what is right.

    How do so many stupid people get jobs with these organizations?

  • AtlanticCapers

    Same with Judaism. Oh, uhh… Never mind.

    (I forgot that Jewish supremacists are allowed to be a religion or a race depending on whichever position best serves them at any given moment.)

  • Prattvictory

    Judaism is the most bigoted religion.

    Many would think the wealth Jews have acquired over the years and the high levels of education might be reflected in a more generous world view, but it is just the opposite.

    Where this proposed mosque might be an opportunity to demonstrate inclusiveness, how we can all live together, instead it is used as a point of conflict. It is used to define Jews as aggrieved, the victims. It is the upside down logic the pervades Israeli politics.

  • dennycrane

    Hmm, they never could be like Jewish Socialist Bundas that helped the blacks in the Civil Rights Movement. Always, on the wrong side of things.

  • ykwrecords

    I say let them build it so we can blow it up later… and blame them for it.

  • dennycrane

    They would beat us to it.

  • LPM49

    While it may be true that some racists oppose the building of a mosque at ground-zero – there are many more who are NOT racist that oppose building the mosque. Why aren't their views being aired? Could it be that they are too logical and non-controversial? It seems that the hateful headline grabbing folks get first bidding and are shown as the yardstick to measure everyone else against. They ARE racist, hateful people. Why is everyone who opposes the mosque labled as being in cohorts with these people. It is plain and simple bad taste to build it. That is not a racist view. The, to borrow a term from our present administration, “collective” good of the people of the USA/New York far outweighs the inconvenience to an individual group who want to build the mosque. It is time that the rights of the citizens of this country come first and the government stops licking the boots of every group that wants to eradicate us as a whole and want to take us over – killing those who don't believe as they do. We are not trying to kill them, just stop them from building this insulting building.

  • grindermonkey

    Islam and its Muslims do not constitute a race. They have waged and continue to wage a war against any non Muslim society they come across. It is root and vine of the events of 9-11, have we forgotten that? We are in the longest war this nation has ever seen because of Islam's sixth century reasoning. Their Jihad is a holy war against every non Muslim in the world including New York City.

    Pat Condell sums it up nicely here.

    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=pat…

    “Sharia law in Western society is like urine in the drinking water.”

    Give it a listen, pass it around.

  • cessnadriver

    Grindermonkeys are much, much smarter than you.

  • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

    So much for “defending democratic ideals and civil liberties”.

  • cessnadriver

    “It is time that the rights of the citizens of this country come first”.

    What about the rights of Muslim citizens?

  • mk47

    I don't understand why all the furor towards the Muslims. Firstly, the entire Muslim world did not take part in the “terrorist attacks” on 9-11. If you truly believe this version,there were only 19 that partook in the alleged terrorist attacks. The sad reality is that ,long after we are all gone,the brutal truth will be unearthed and exposed. Our Govt. was at worst,entirely behind the attack on this country! At best,they just sat back and let it happen for higher gain. Just like England ,The US Govt.,France allowed Pearl Harbor to happen in order to justify America joining the allied efforts against the Nazis. Unfortunately the orchestration of 9-11 didn't have the same lofty goal! It was not a “noble” cause against a Fascist Tyrant (Hitler) It was all about achieving the new World Order as outlined by the now defunct PNAC (Project for The New American Century) doctrine! Oil and American dominance were and still are the main agenda! Wake up and smell the thermite! Corporate America is running our Govt!! Our Govt has and will do anything to please it's masters and the master plan.Wall Street,The Banksters,Petrol Industry,Pharma Industry, are the true enemy and terrorists! We are constantly being lied to…time for us all to wake up
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sFTVmWlZ8U
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_siH5wJTJ4E

  • Balthazars Rebellion

    Israel is Americas shadow government. The last decade of insanity in the Middle East at the benefit of Israel is the crown jewel of AIPAC/Israel lobbies intentions.They need complete and total control of rank and command in government starting with the POTUS to the military to the Orwellian Police State that is aimed at taking away our ability to fight back. Zionists have infested the high offices of US government…come on people, it was never the American way to LIE its way into a pre-emptive war, torture, use Depleted Uranium on civilians, occupy nations for no other reason than a complete take over. America is acting like the scum bags that at one time we stood firmly against. Timothy McVeigh was Catholic. Any problems with Catholic churches? The owned by “you know who” media is hammering American minds into an anti-Muslim/Islam pulp every freakin day! There is an agenda being carried out. Americans are being psychologically manipulated into hating Israels enemies. The Ministry of Propaganda is working hard on Iran. They need us to hate these people and condition us for MORE WAR. The US has become Israels Zombie War Slave.

  • grindermonkey

    By the time stamp on your post you did not watch the video. How smart is that?

  • AtlanticCapers

    The Muslim center is not even being built at ground zero. Maybe you should stop listening to the racists.

  • AtlanticCapers

    I find that the people who claim to speak for the Jews tend to stereotype the Jews.

  • TheDevilCanDance

    Of course A Foxman the director of ADL is one of the sleaziest man in America. He makes a living out of recycling 50 yr old holocaust stories, over and over……The man has the ethics of a colostomy bag

  • cessnadriver

    Your comment speaks for itself, and validates my low opinion of you.

  • DEB52CARTER

    I AGREE!!——————TRUE.

  • panskeptic

    This story demonstrates that Abe Foxman is getting old and should retire.

    It does not demonstrate that anti-Semites can defend their toxic pose of false superiority – they're only fooling themselves. Their obsessive-compulsive vitriol shows them to be pathetic losers desperately looking for somebody to look down upon, and failing. If you've got to hammer on the Jews to feel good about yourself, you've already lost.

  • http://www.lebanon-dems.org SgtCedar

    Civil rights for me, but not for thee.

  • Prattvictory

    Fuck you with an old wooden stick. You and all of your family.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Thomas-Ross/100000147894517 Thomas Ross

    Yea, it's very possible to be a progressive and think it's a bad idea and at the very least insensitive to put a Mosque in the footprint of the WTC.
    It's not a stretch to remind us that the folks who murdered 3 thousand of our fellow citizens
    did so in the name of Islam. (YES I understand that they were BAD Muslims and do not speak for all of Islam) STILL I lost a friend that day, and as an expat New Yorker living on the West coast I think a better location a few blocks away would be a more gentle solution…
    NOT rascist, a thinking PROGRESSIVE

  • n3542576

    If one is going to be hated anyway just for for being an infidel, I favor billboards all around the site show the image of Mohammad as a cartoon caricature of a pig. Right Adolph?

    Any Muslim who is so arrogant to be insensitive to the death site of thousands of innocents, deserves derogation, if not contempt.

  • n3542576

    The U.S. Gov't was behind 9/11?

    Where do you stand on alien abduction?

    On the other hand the Muslim Jihadists, militant Islamists, make no attempt to hide their intentions to kill Americans – It's time to put them in check.

  • DesertWren

    The ADL is just another bigoted organization now. It's goal is to simply dismiss legitimate grievances against Israel for its actions into nothing more than anti-Semitic hate. Their bigotry against Muslims has been pretty obvious for some time. Now it should be obvious to everyone.

    Case and point: ADL denounces Goldstone report.

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    As long as the Muslims who build this Mosque are Americans first, I think this is a decent idea. Having a Mosque would show the world that America embraces the best of Islam. It's symbolism could actually help prevent the next 911. I don't believe Islam or Muslims are behind 911, I believe militant extremists are behind 911 and that 911 was primarily about geopolitics not religion.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/MXEV43BT32TZUJH5Z4A22LQMKE carp

    Can you defend a religious regime who’s agenda is to ultimately destory liberty, and destroy freedom to worship what you wish and enforce sharia Law
    It appears to be a clear case of hypocrisy justified by the sins of the past religious leaders. A an hypocrite act in a way contrary to what they profess to be true. The Jews enforced the law of the Torah, it resulted in followers with out faith or as we say an hypocrites. When the Christians enforced the laws of the new testament it resulted in followers with out faith, or as we say an hypocrites. When the Muslims enforce their laws, it will result in the same, hypocrites.. Time after time the wave of apostasy and hypocrites. have bought death and destruction, upon man kind. . If the Muslim’s way is not the idea of Love and peace at its critical mass, when they have achieved there domination of a land, then is a n apostate religion of hypocrites.

    True religion is to care for one another , the homeless, the widows, the orphaned, the sick the hungry and the oppressed, to bring freedom and the example of love to all those we meet, God is clear in His word that we are to liberate others not lead them into more oppression. And the means it is not in our freedom lands best interest to allow more apostasy into the land.. Sick makes healthily sick. Health never is a result of an infection. The apostasy and hypocrisy of the nation needs no help from the Muslims, We have done a fine job of that already.

    So , we are to protect our freedom and our lands of freedom. and to be wise enough to look ahead and see the out come of a nation of Islamic rule. Don’t you understand all you female boogers would surely be put to death for your “ out spoke and evil ways”. Also , all who denied that Mohamad is the one and only true profit will be beheaded, or stoned alive buried up to your waist in sand and then stoned. I say we must stand up for Liberty and defend it. We know possess something never held by a nation until now. a fleeting but free choice. One to embrace God and become obedient to his holy spirit, and one to deny God and his life giving spirit which exists in all of us,… for a few years…. (on Loan until death) . But mostly we hold the chance to live in peace with all men as much as we are able, until our death. And for that we must be on guard.

    If you take away that free choice, the free choice you have, and the free choice I have Then you will achieve complete apostasy of the truth, and a false religion will be forced upon all, A Muslim nation allows for no free choice, they might as well all be robots, for out of fear and not love do they worship. They do it to obtain a false eternity, An eternity which boasts of 70 virgins , to do with what they want. Is this a place for a woman to live in eternal peace? It is an abomination and a profane thing to think of Gods kingdom in this way. God is a spiritual Being and not seduced by the flesh as we are, Why would all the self denial he asks of us in this body produce an even more carnal existence in that new and eternal body, I tell you it is a perverse thing to teach and it is from the fallen angels, Who will soon return in a “great delusion” to force upon all those who are with out knowledge of the word..

    God tells us and shows us that he never wanted a forced love from us,. like wine out of grapes. But God asks us, and wants for us to become over comers of hate and apostasy. And to be willing givers of ourselves in love. To service others in need. There is no eventual beheading of all who don’t choose to walk in love and , in the truth of God, The freedom to deny is yours. There is Just the final judgement when all are called to the judgement seat. Our Love for others and God must come from a pure faith, not a forced will.. If then the MUSLIMS gain their slow and methodic control of the world , we will all be marked for death. Any who will not bow to “Balam ” or the Mahudi, or Mohamed. We have enough apostasy in the land. Foe example , …on the even ridiculous side of true current events, we all ready have half of our nations leaders going up to the “ Bohemian Grove ” in mid. July to worship the owls of Molech, an ancient false god of the Chaldeans, … Don’t believe me ,,, Goggle it. I guess freemasonry is gaining its own apostasy. But as long as the enemy is willing to accommodate the lusts of man, there will be no shortage of this type of behavior. Why do we need to allow more false worship into this nation.

    If you value your freedom you will wake up to the agenda of Lies on all sides. Protect freedom and your children retain the ability to choose. . Understand this… for sure, your free will be taken away and your children will have their heads taken off if they don’t obey. This is the Muslim way when all is in their hand. , Stay blind to it and you will loose your freedom to deny God and I will loose mind to worship him. I believe in the Father of the Lord Jesus the savior to come. And the Muslims if they gain control of the Americas, …as is their wish. We will experience apostasy like never before on the face of the earth.

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    Only it's not a bad idea. How do we show the world what America believes in if we don't do something bold like this? Do we believe in freedom of religion? Do we believe in tolerance? If we believe in that then allowing a Mosque to be built at the site of the WTC is a good way to show what we believe in. If we prevent it then how do we explain why we wont let American Muslims build a Mosque? Those American Muslims are on our side int he fight against the Muslim extremists. So if they are willing to fight for America, why would America tell them not to build a Mosque.

  • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

    Psst…not to let you in on a big secret…but your schizophrenia meds wore off somewhere after the first three words.

    What you know about Islam, Arabic culture, history and anything else could fit in a thimble and leave room for a thumb…but I have to admire your comfort with your own lack of knowledge and willingness to guzzle propaganda Kool Aid…most people would flinch a little and maybe wonder if there was more to things than they knew. Not you, man…you have a cause and it doesn't need anything as harmful as the presence of a clue. Run with that…hope it works out for ya…but somehow, given how things worked out for Chicken Little and his 'falling sky' theory…I'm doubting you'll abandon the fun of hysteria until all other options have been exhausted.

  • Crispus Attucks

    Anti-racist ADL… that's an oxymoron for sure.

  • Schmice

    I think that you are oversimplifying the matter to a point of absurdity. There is more to the ADL than just “bigoted attacks against Muslims”. Jews have so often been attacked for the simple fact that they are Jews, that the ADL felt it necessary to mount a defense against anti-Semites. This particular action is not supported by all Jews, It is short-sighted and in the long run will prove to be a mistake. However, since few if any organizations have ever banded together to protect Jews from hate groups and terrorists, the ADL took it upon themselves to fight back. Perhaps if Arab governments would quit constantly seeking the destruction of Israel or arming and bankrolling extremists to do the same the climate would be different.

  • Schmice

    You make some very good points. I agree with you.

  • Schmice

    DevilCantDance, you make no contribution to any discussion when you stoop to such vacuous statements in the guise of advancing any logical point. Try again, only this time state a premise and defend it with a cohesive argument (assuming, of course that you want to be taken seriously). If you just want to go for a sound-byte that might be amusing for its scatological basis, you can do that to, I suppose, but in the end, you will not be taken seriously by any thinking and concerned person.

  • Schmice

    Ouch, but I see your point.

  • TheDevilCanDance

    Mention colostomy bag, and soon enough, the flies are showing up……

  • Schmice

    Check and mate in two moves.

  • Schmice

    You are absolutely on target, as it were.

  • Schmice

    Dumb.

  • Schmice

    Dumber.

  • TheDevilCanDance

    Lady,you are hurting my feeling……..

  • n3542576

    “Get it all on record now – get the films – get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened.”

  • TheDevilCanDance

    Who cares today……it happened more than half a century ago,this story has been sold and bargained,used and abused & twisted like a pretzel. Why don't we make a fixation on the Tasmanian genocide, the Armenian genocide, the genocide of Amerindians. The very idea that Jewish lives are more important than non Jews,is a racist concept that has no place in 21th century society. Like it or not, We are all equal .

  • TheDevilCanDance

    Pat Condell is a racist hysterical old Grannie who acts as a cover man for the British National Party. He is using the atheist platform to promulgate hatred & fear of foreigners in the UK. Some of his followers include members of Combat 18….

  • QuadSlacker

    How is it in the collective good of the people of New York to ban a certain religion from practicing their beliefs within this area? If you're going to ban religion, ban all religion, but this is just an affront to what America actually stands for. If you love churches but hate mosques…. what you call “inconvenience”, we call “bullshit”. The 9/11 widows want a legitimate investigation into that act of mass-murder, not an inquisition into the religious affairs of people who had nothing to do with it. This is nothing more than distraction, so we don't focus on the theft and murder being perpetrated upon us by those who claim to act in our best interests.

  • AH

    Read number 2 — this is why ADL & others don’t wonant the mosque near Ground Zero. There are people out there (commenters on this blog, Mel Gibson, Oliver Stone) who hate Jews. There are passages in the Koran that call for the death of all Jews, that refer to us in the most despicable ways. We should fight for these people when American soldiers are dying in Iraq & Afghanistan? The Mayor, the community board, & others have political correctness on the brain like a cancer. It is not as simple as defending the freedom to worship during war time.

  • Anonymous

    Wow, this sure sounds racist, for the ADL has done many good things over the years, fighting for civil rights for all. This particular declaration has me truly puzzled.

  • rtb61

    Upon that basis should not native Americans be able to ban the construction of any Christian churches anywhere in the US. We are talking a whole germicidal war and the loss of their “Independence”, you cheeky lot even have a day to celebrate the loss of native American independence, now that's gall. So how many foreign devil churches where built upon sacred American spiritual lands, one, tens, hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands.
    Shame on you, “judge not lest ye be judged' http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_said_%27Judge_not….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J4R2P2BMMM5JTCYWGEU4YW6UWQ Dago T

    Leave it to a late night talk show host, Jimmy Kimmel, to have the best perspective on this. He said (paraphrasing) that if it were up to him, he'd put a mosque on the top of every building in New York (or the U.S.?) — what are the chances a Muslim would attack a building with a mosque?

  • http://muslimmatters.org/2010/07/31/civil-rights-group-adl-backs-bigots-islamophobes-against-mosque-near-ground-zero/ “Civil Rights” Group ADL Backs Bigots & Islamophobes Against Cordoba House “Ground Zero Mosque” | MuslimMatters.org

    [...] *Some history on ADL below and how far it has fallen off its charter to protect civil rights for “all” [Source] [...]

  • Michael S Smith NJ

    I think that the ADL is wrong this one time most of the time I would agree with it how about that we do not alow any religious group to buid there leave the site open as a memorial to the victims
    If Muslims can't build there then niether should Christian, Jews and all otthers as well.

  • Michael S Smith NJ

    One more thing maybey someone shoudl make and distribute a petition/letter to the ADL

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/L5PHKRPFHK3LLTRDNVH2ZBIWOA Cal

    The ADL is a racist group with a particularly virulent outlook. There's no lie too far and no smear too greasy for this group. We look forward to the day when they are no more.

  • quincunx

    Those victims at the WTC didn't die from an 'attack' but 30 min. or more later when the buildings mysteriously lost ALL STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY!

    Some say 'explosives'; I say ACT OF GOD!

    Until 911 is properly reinvestigated, and all the information released for peer-reviewed research, all those victims ARE JOKES! When will the government release the surrvalience camera videos of the attach on the pentagon, so I can see that our government doesn't kill INNOCENT AMERICANS FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES!

    JOKES JOKES JOKES JOKES!!!!!!!

    Why did the WTC tower that was attacked first come down second?
    The control boxes got reversed!

    But, Sir, can you prove the buildings were demolished?
    Hey, even if the buildings weren't demolished, the dead babies in them were!
    Some of them all they found was their DNA!

  • http://historyindeed.com HIStory Indeed

    When folks come to terms with the fact that Muslims weren't at the helm of 9/11 they'll begin to see how sad all of this bickering is.

  • http://twitter.com/ivanafter5 Ivan After 5

    Unfortunately too many Americans it seems want to oppose this mosque and start burning the Koran. Then they wonder why the Muslim world hates us.

  • dennycrane

    Especially when the dimwits that look at it from a “religious” view, discover that the christers, Muslims, Jews, etc. all have the same god.

    And now, the asswipes, have come to this: “the tragedy of greatness is to have to trample on corpses.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Theradicalrecruiter-Andcom/100001433072541 Theradicalrecruiter Andcom

    wow. are you for real? never seen such nuttery.

  • BrainRagYell

    Or how about we start tearing down all mosques, synagogues, and churches and start cherishing reason instead of this infantile life-after-death fairy tale?

  • felixthecatxxxx

    You are right, but few here will listen to you. Political correctness has a way of deafening people.

    Since its inception, Islam has been at war with all those who are the “infidel”. The Middle East and North Africa were once part of Christiandom, but Islam spread through the area at the point of the sword. This Jihad is still ongoing; from the massacre of the Pontic Greeks a century ago to 9/11, the Jihad has lost little of its ancient vigor.

    But why is Islam at eternal war with the Infidel? The Quran, the direct word of Allah, demands that all true Muslims must practice Jihad. If the infidel will not convert, they must either be enslaved or be killed. Yes, the majority of Muslims are not terrorists. And I'm sure that the majority of Muslims have not read the entire Koran. Among those who have, undoubtedly the majority of them have rejected Islam's violent teachings and Allah's psychotic demands. But there are always those who have read the Quran and have not rejected the violent teachings of Islam. Even if they make up only one percent of all Muslims, that is still quite a lot of people.

    Uncloak Islam from its religious trappings, and one is left with a pathologically violent political ideology- intolerant, cruel, murderous. Some people can rise above that, others cannot.

    (Yes, yes, I know- “What about them Christyuns and the Indians nad them Nights who killed people” Yawn, thanks for the input.)

  • felixthecatxxxx

    Does that mean that, to you, Islam is a race then?

  • http://www.wwnewsflash.com/adl#1535729 World Wide News Flash

    Anti-racist ADL 'joins bigots' in opposing Ground Zero mosque ……

    I found your entry interesting do I’ve added a Trackback to it on my weblog :)…

  • AtlanticCapers

    Only to the same extent that Judaism is a race. I guess it's a matter of liberal semantics.

  • grindermonkey

    Well who did you intend to offend?

  • grindermonkey

    It is good that you find ignorance and indifference so comfortable; I am happy for you.

  • grindermonkey

    Your confession has been duly noted and referred to a currently idle deity.

  • http://bigdanblogger.blogspot.com/ Big Dan

    Just as we all knew: the ADL is racist!

  • LPM49

    The anti-christian/jewish segment, backed by the ACLU and the gov't do it every day in this coubtry. This country was formed on BASIC judeo-christian beliefs/values and the only thing that the 'progressive' thinkers want to do anymore is shit all over those values with their situational ethics, if it feels good – do it,
    Nobody is banning the muslims from practicing their religion. There are several mosques relatively close to the site in question. If christians were to go into another nation and try the same thing – nobody would be rolling out the red carpet for them.

    I suppose that you are into the belief that the government was behind the whole 9/11 incident. People have been blowing that horn for almost 10 years and have yet to produce 1 bit of credible proof. Oh, I forgot, the government stole it all… right??? All else fails, blame it on a conspiracy. Sounds as credible as all people who oppose the mosque are racist – eh?

  • Balthazars Rebellion

    Israel is without a doubt the perpetrators of 9/11. Islam would not have knowingly brought a living hell to their land. Israel framed the Arab states yet again in the mother of all false flag attacks against the US

  • grindermonkey

    You have no validity and you are off my Christmas card list.

  • http://twitter.com/shivabeach Shiva

    Hey boss, its de mosque, its de mosque~! Thats right Gilligan, within weeks we will all be under Sharia law. Today one block near Ground Zero, tomorrow all of NYC!

    OBL is winning again. Dance little bigots dance. Perhaps if we send the Israelis back to Israel we wouldn't have these problems. eh? whaddya say? we must defend the christian law we live under at all costs! Or better yet, ban all religions. Thats a war worth fighting,

  • grindermonkey

    Take your predatory sexual appetite and shove it. Stay away from the school children as well.

  • grindermonkey

    This may be true but his argument carries significant merit whereas yours certainly does not.

  • grindermonkey

    Well Felix, political correctness according to Pat Condell is “knowing what is wrong and doing it anyway.” If these commenters and readers disagree that strongly with Condell and have nothing better to offer except shallow submission, then the current policy of official appeasement must be satisfactory to them. Islam is at war, at war with us. They have attacked our country and others repeatedly despite conventional military efforts against them. The JDL advocates some sort of “healing process” the only healing process that Islam takes seriously is the total submission of Western Civilization. What is to heal?

  • grindermonkey

    I can't speak for MK47 but the current administrations' position on alien abduction is acceptable.

  • swensrq

    The ADL should have stayed out of the discussion. Any comment they made would only add fuel to an already simmering situation. Choosing a site for a mosque so close to a place that will forever have special significance to nearly every American was insensitive at best and provocative at worst. It is disappointing that in their zeal to show “the good side” of Islam this group is actually creating further ill-will toward their religion. Since this should be patently obvious to anyone, it does lead you to question their motives. I'm not sure about this one. What bothers me most is how some of the people posting here seem so sure they know the minds and intentions of everyone involved. Sad.

  • TheDevilCanDance

    Of course it does if you are a bigot. Do you think your hysterical fear of Muslims makes sense for the rest of us who don't give a fuck?

  • grindermonkey

    A naturalized Muslim citizen takes an oath to the United States as part of becoming a citizen. It is a PRIVILEGE not a right. ANY citizen of the US can have his citizenship revoked if he engages or participates in a war against the US. Jihad is a war against the US and all Western Civilization. Check the US Code.

  • grindermonkey

    Pratt why don't you go to Islamistan and see if they include you or better still try Israel.

  • EndTheNWO

    Truth is always the first victim of the Zionists and hypocrisy, propaganda, stealth and outright fabrication their best friends. The last thing they want is 9/11 truth to be revealed or the negative public perception of Islam to change. It would be fatal for them…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Annunciata-Rubiconski/1386164350 Annunciata Rubiconski

    The war on dark people continues in it's many forms.

    I thought the most outstanding part of Powell's endorsement of Obama was his statement about respecting Muslims.

    STOP THE WAR ON ISLAM!

    Stand against RACISM and BIGOTRY!

  • grindermonkey

    Fear, bigotry and hysteria are the stuff of the Republican party, the party of famine and destitution. THEY do your thinking for you because you are trapped in your shroud of ignorance and superstition that rejects alternative points of view.

  • grindermonkey

    If the Bush family decided to take its ill gotten gains and erect a monument to their Fuhrer Adolph Hitler right in the middle of Times Square, I wonder how many political correct weasels would line up behind them. Nazi fascism and Islamic fascism are no different than the Christian fascism we practice in Afghanistan every day. I don't foresee the Iraqis or the Afghans erecting any monuments to the US in the very near future to promote a “healing process.”

  • MRAMERICA4U

    Jews and muslims are not another race,you idiots are crying racism and dont even know what the hell it means.Go back in your caves so you dont feel persecuted.

  • tibetsun

    How stupid an argument for the ADL! This is bigotry, an inhuman act. These muslims have been harassed, antagonized, and victimized because the biggots can''t see the forest through the trees. They are so incensed because our so-called media perpetuated the lies from the Bush administration about Muslims attacking us on 9/11. If they would do their research, they'd find so many incongruities in the “official” version of what happened on 9/11! There is so much information, and commentaries by professionals in the aviation industry, against the “offical” version, it would make their heads spin! It could not possibly have happened the way the Bush administration, or 911 Commission stated, or benn AlQaeda. Yet, the press and this administration keep inciting these ignorants to the point of hysteria about Muslims! Someone once said, “never underestimate the stupidity of the American people”–case in point!

  • TheDevilCanDance

    I have a question for Americans. 2700 individuals lost their lives on 9/11, many of them were foreign nationals, still the earth had to stop its rotation because of this tragic event. I am in no way ignoring or dismissing the pain and suffering related to what happened on that day, but what does make your suffering more important than the suffering of the million of Iraqis who have lost their lives, courtesy of the US humanitarian invasion of Iraq?. What about the 1000's of Afghans & Pakistanis who are being blown to pieces by US military Playstations…..I already know the answer, Kill an American,its a crime, kill thousands of non-Americans, its fucking statistics……

  • TheDevilCanDance

    “trapped in your shroud of ignorance and superstition”.

    Nice try but I am an atheist.

    game over…..

  • deciminyan
  • grindermonkey

    Your confessions do not immunize you from stupidity.

  • TheDevilCanDance

    My stupidity is better than your hysteria & fear of Arabs and Muslims. Do you keep the light on at night and watch under your bed,there might be some Mooslim bogey man hiding under your pile of dirty socks .

    How does it feel to live an old lady afraid of her own shadow?. (no offense intended to old ladies….)

  • theghostpony

    Teh stoopid. It burns.

    Whadda Maroon.

  • grindermonkey

    What then is this Jihad thing all about? What then is the infidel characterization about? What is this fixation with amputation and the mutilation of women about? Why are all the great mosques of the world built upon the ruins of temples and cathedrals? Maybe I am stupid but I find these activities offensive and unsettling particularly when they are advocated by presumptuous and vain architecture and raving lunatics with bombs strapped to their underwear claiming to be civilized.

  • theoracle

    How many Muslims/Arabs were murdered at Ground Zero on 9/11 by the hijackers?

    And relative to Ground Zero today, how close is the nearest Christian church, Jewish synagogue, Hindu temple or Buddhist temple, or that of any other faith?

    From what I've read, the Ground Zero memorial will commemorate the murders of ALL the people murdered by ultra-right-wing religious thugs on 9/11. Will all the parties against the building of this Muslim Community Center blocks away from Ground Zero similarly call for blocking the inclusion of the names of those Muslims murdered at Ground Zero on 9/11, too?

    We know that al Qaeda (and the Taliban) would NEVER honor our country's First Amendment right to freedom of religion (as well as the right to freedom FROM religion, especially anyone else's religion), so why is the ADL and some other “Americans” seemingly supporting the hardcore sentiments of al Qaeda and the Taliban?

  • TheDevilCanDance

    “THEY do your thinking for you because you are trapped in your shroud of ignorance and superstition”

    As opposed to individual like yourself who lives petrified & dominated by fear, & who wants me to become as hysterical as you are.Lol, The Muslims don't have any plan on enslaving your little sister and cannibalizing your pet dog. You don't need a weapon to protect yourself from Islamo ninjas, what you need is some fucking Valium and a new hobby.

  • grindermonkey

    Quoting the Koran, Sarge?

  • http://twitter.com/ronaldjackson Ronald Jackson

    The ADL's credentials as an authentic “civil rights” organization have always been dubious at best. It has a long and documented history of spying on (and keeping thousands of files on) American citizens who have not be charged or convicted for any crime. ADL members have been caught spying on members of the anti-apartheid and anti-occupation activist communities and handing the information they gathered over to the racist South African and Israeli governments.

    You can read more about it HERE: http://twurl.nl/x0osni

  • n3542576

    It shouldn't surprise even you that terrorist attacks on innocent civilians by mass murderers, in the name of Islam, in turn, resulted in the deaths of a lot of Muslims.

    Islamo-terrorist attacks on civilians have taken place in such non-American places as India, China, The Philippines and Indonesia which is inconsistent with your theme.

    If the US pulled out of the ME tomorrow – the mad dogs would still keep coming for some other Jihadist reason, which because of its religious basis, would not be subject to question.

  • TheDevilCanDance

    I am grindermonkey and I approve this message:

    Islam bad, Judeo Christian mythos bullshit not so bad…..

    What then is this Chosen People thing all about? What then is the Goyim characterization about?
    What is this fixation with amputation and the mutilation of male infants (circumcision) about
    Why are all the churches of the world built upon the ruins of ancient Pagan temples
    Maybe I am stupid but I find these activities offensive and unsettling particularly when they are advocated by presumptuous and vain Christian moral superiority and raving lunatics with Crosses painted of their uniforms, claiming to be civilized, while 2000 years of Anti Judaism gave way to modern Antisemitism, which paved the road to the holocaust

  • grindermonkey

    We are not required to “show the world” anything particularly what we “believe.” And we do NOT owe any Muslims any kind of explanation. They need to file for a building permit somewhere else. They and the Jews have been fighting over the Foundation Stone for centuries and we do not need any extension of their vapid monuments at GZ.

  • tibetsun

    You think it's not pure hubris to attack countries for their commodities, to secure your imperialist govt. and the outrageous right to call itself No.1? To implement, without cause, the kind of govt. the US govt. deems the best? You think everyone will stand for this perverted way of thinking? You think people in other countries want to be told by us, the supposed No.1 country, in the world, that their religion, lifestyle, govt. is wrong–just because WE don't like it? What hubris! If your intelligence is to believe that we have not persecuted other peoples, in the name of democracy, you'd be very wrong. We have ABSOLUTELY NO RIGHT to dictate to other nations, how they should live their lives. Look at our own country–you call this a great example–terrorism in our name, is terrorism. You think this is not a terrorist govt.? Look at the over 900 bases we have in the rest of the world. Does that not tell you we want control of everything?!? Look at what our CIA has perpetrated in the name of Govt. Look at how our soldiers have MURDERED children, in the name of security. If we minded our own business, and started working together, as a WORLD, just think of what could be accomplished!

  • grindermonkey

    Maybe the East River with Jimmy Hoffa…

  • grindermonkey

    They have already tried building a mosque and a synagogue next to each other in Jerusalem, it's not working out.

  • grindermonkey

    They should in fact be wondering why we hate them..hate is a two way street.

  • grindermonkey

    What then is the “Freedom Center” rising from the ashes of the World Trade Center a monument to – truth, justice and the American way?

  • grindermonkey

    Yeah, Mike, someone who can spell.

  • http://www.lebanon-dems.org SgtCedar

    No

  • grindermonkey

    They too are looking forward to that day, Cal, it's called Armageddon.

  • grindermonkey

    Easy, Denny, we have all had to trample on a few corpses just to stay alive let alone to be tragically great.

  • n3542576

    The ADL is irrelevant, the victims of 9/11 were killed in the name of Islam. Putting a mosque at the site is really rubbing the victims' families' faces in it; it could be reasonably interpreted an act of provocation. Think about how they feel.

  • grindermonkey

    Bickering is not sad, lies are sad particularly the lies about virgin birth, ascending to heaven, healing the sick, feeding the hungry and especially the BIG ONE, eternal damnation…

  • grindermonkey

    No puzzlement at all; if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it is a Semite with an agenda.

  • grindermonkey

    This is not sadness, it is instead the beginning of Enlightenment. But not a pretty start, I'll have to agree.

  • TheDevilCanDance

    Lol, Kosher blower is back in business

  • grindermonkey

    To stand against Islam is to stand against racism and bigotry, what do you think Sharia law is all about?

  • grindermonkey

    I am surprised at your question, Dancing Devil, you of all people should know that no greatness is achieved without suffering and FEAR of suffering. It is the basis of everything from personal salvation to derivatives trading, particularly the statistics. It's all a matter of balancing the accounts receivable and ignoring the debt.

  • grindermonkey

    I totally agree except for he “working together” part.

  • grindermonkey

    Couldn't have said it better.

  • quincunx

    Those victims of 911 did not die in any 'attack' but 30 or more minutes later when the buildings mysteriously lost ALL STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY.

    Some say 'explosives'; I say an ACT OF GOD!

    Anyway, why doesn't anyone ask the family of the victims?
    Or are you just a control frek?

    When will all the information be released for peer-reviewed research?

    When will the survallience camera videos of the attack on the Pentagon be
    released so I can know that AMERICA DOES NOT KILL ITS INNOCENT
    CITIZENS FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES!

    Until then the victims are JOKES!

    Why did the WTC come down as dust and twisted beams?
    It was made from sugar cubes and pretzels!

    Why did the dead baby run back into the tower half an hour after the planes attacked?
    Someone dared him to run up to the 80th floor and hit the BIG BLUE DEMOLITION button!

  • theonlyseven

    Unless you live or work in Manhattan, this is none of your business. This is our neighborhood, not yours. I’m sure nobody in Bumbfuck Idaho would like a bunch of New Yorkers showing up telling them what to do. The majority of the people in Manhattan have no problem with the planned community center, or don’t care. The majority of New Yorkers that are opposed are the guidos that live in Staten Island, and we only let them be a part of NYC because we need someplace to dump our garbage. We have more important things to be pissed off about, like how cigarettes are now over $10 a pack and we cant smoke in bars. Or how about how we pay more in Federal taxes than what we get back. So all of you in the fly-over states can just zip it. We don’t tell you where you can have your barn dance, so don’t you try to tell us what we can build on our land. So, get back to your tractors or your watermelon pits spitting contests or whatever the hell you people do for amusement and leave us alone. We couldn’t care less what a bunch of NASCAR watching hayseeds have to say. We eat towns like yours for breakfast and shit them out in time for lunch.

    http://dnainfo.com/20100701/manhattan/manhattan…

  • cessnadriver

    Building the not a mosque that isn't at “Ground Zero” is only offensive to those who choose to be offended and is only a provocation to those who wish to be provoked.

    Killing “in the name of Isalm” isn't the same as Islam doing the killng. Did Christianity blow up the Murrah building?

    We do think about how the families of the victims feel about it. We also think about the American Way and the right of everyone in the United States to have the freedom of religion.

    Even religions we don't like.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Annunciata-Rubiconski/1386164350 Annunciata Rubiconski

    Partial list of the Muslim victims of 9/11……

    Samad Afridi
    Ashraf Ahmad
    Shabbir Ahmad (45 years old; Windows on the World; leaves wife and 3 children)
    Umar Ahmad
    Azam Ahsan
    Ahmed Ali
    Tariq Amanullah (40 years old; Fiduciary Trust Co.; ICNA website team member; leaves wife and 2 children)
    Touri Bolourchi (69 years old; United Airlines #175; a retired nurse from Tehran)
    Salauddin Ahmad Chaudhury
    Abdul K. Chowdhury (30 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald)
    Mohammad S. Chowdhury (39 years old; Windows on the World; leaves wife and child born 2 days after the attack)
    Jamal Legesse Desantis
    Ramzi Attallah Douani (35 years old; Marsh & McLennan)
    SaleemUllah Farooqi
    Syed Fatha (54 years old; Pitney Bowes)
    Osman Gani
    Mohammad Hamdani (50 years old)
    Salman Hamdani (NYPD Cadet)
    Aisha Harris (21 years old; General Telecom)
    Shakila Hoque (Marsh & McLennan)
    Nabid Hossain
    Shahzad Hussain
    Talat Hussain
    Mohammad Shah Jahan (Marsh & McLennan)
    Yasmeen Jamal
    Mohammed Jawarta (MAS security)
    Arslan Khan Khakwani
    Asim Khan
    Ataullah Khan
    Ayub Khan
    Qasim Ali Khan
    Sarah Khan (32 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald)
    Taimour Khan (29 years old; Karr Futures)
    Yasmeen Khan
    Zahida Khan
    Badruddin Lakhani
    Omar Malick
    Nurul Hoque Miah (36 years old)
    Mubarak Mohammad (23 years old)
    Boyie Mohammed (Carr Futures)
    Raza Mujtaba
    Omar Namoos
    Mujeb Qazi
    Tarranum Rahim
    Ehtesham U. Raja (28 years old)
    Ameenia Rasool (33 years old)
    Naveed Rehman
    Yusuf Saad
    Rahma Salie & unborn child (28 years old; American Airlines #11; wife of Michael Theodoridis; 7 months pregnant)
    Shoman Samad
    Asad Samir
    Khalid Shahid (25 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald; engaged to be married in November)
    Mohammed Shajahan (44 years old; Marsh & McLennan)
    Naseema Simjee (Franklin Resources Inc.’s Fiduciary Trust)
    Jamil Swaati
    Sanober Syed
    Robert Elias Talhami (40 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald)
    Michael Theodoridis (32 years old; American Airlines #11; husband of Rahma Salie)
    W. Wahid

    Rest in Peace

    Now fuck off fake “patriots”, for good.

    STFU and move on mother fuckers. We are over 9/11 and you should be too.

  • grindermonkey

    Hey Slick, we do everybody else's thinking for them so don't try and exempt yourself just because you can't drive a tractor. And watch what you eat wise guy, we might just fill you full of worthless mortgages again and again and again. Contract diarrhea is what we call it when we're tired of getting the old commodities shaft. And watch those racist comments about NASCAR; we all love racing.

  • cessnadriver

    So, standing up to bigotry and racism by being bigoted and racist….good logic there.

  • crowseye

    It does seem awfully naive of Osama and “Al Qaeda” to entrust command of their propaganda operations to the grandson of an Anti-Defamation League board member, doesn’t it?

    http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2010/03/08/the…

  • TheDevilCanDance

    “Killing “in the name of Isalm” isn't the same as Islam doing the killng. Did Christianity blow up the Murrah building?”

    Very elegant response

  • grindermonkey

    Well we demonized the Nazis, the Communists and many other fascist groups by adopting and using their methods against them. So the tactic is well known and woven into our fabric; it ignores the Bill of Rights and the Constitution but hostile acts must be deterred and insults to our country by pretentious religions must be responded to. How many mosques must we endure to satisfy your weak kneed appeasement? Should there be minarets blaring outside your home? Amputee beggars at your door? Beaten and abandoned burqa clad women lying on your sidewalks? There is no charity in your comment but then coming from a thoroughly brainwashed, politically correct, and unimaginative mental dwarf what should I expect?

  • grindermonkey

    I think you are ready for “Flight 77 Pilots for 9/11 Truth” and the photographs of the WTC site at

    http://www.drjudywood.com/wtc/

    where you will behold intriguing images of the damaged steel all caused by burning kerosene. Good hunting to you and study the Periodic Table.

  • grindermonkey

    Indeed, what a fitting eulogy from the departed; the sort of fundamentalist remembrance that resonates through us all.

  • grindermonkey

    I don't know, Mike, but I do know that I have to mow my decadent lawn right now.

  • grindermonkey

    Devil Dance with two left feet and Cessna with two broken wings, what a pair of coconuts. One copies and pastes and the other applauds with his feet like trained seal.

  • TheDevilCanDance

    You could only wish you had 10% of Cessnadriver's intellectual bandwidth….But you are pretty good at Ed Schultz impersonator.

  • TheDevilCanDance

    Levi Johnston ?is it you?

  • n3542576

    I think you got a bad batch of dope.

  • n3542576

    These kinds of posts reflect an eleventh century, savage mentality for which force is the only option. The sociopathy shown is what the civilized world is up against. Notice the repressed sexual overtones and misdirected hostility. If you were a citizen you could potentially qualify for Social Security Disability benefits.

  • quincunx

    What's yur point?

  • quincunx

    Wuz yur point?

  • grindermonkey

    I guess my point to you is that your god acts in mysterious ways; he/she uses molecular disintegration to make his point. Get it? Maybe not.

  • n3542576

    You are irrational. Millions saw 911 on T.V. and bin laden took credit for it

  • cessnadriver

    Thank you for proving my point.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/SK5YPMIHN7UVEYN545YBD4NWU4 Dave

    What a load of crap!
    when will you clowns do some research on how sky scrapers are designed, they aren't built like a barn!
    these TALL buildings are designed to collapse in on them selves so the area around the skyscraper doesn't get crushed, what kind of morons are you people to not even consider that option, becaue the engineers certainly did!
    the problem in this country is that we ALLOW idiots to have a voice!

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/SK5YPMIHN7UVEYN545YBD4NWU4 Dave

    The ADL, which once was an uncompromising bastion of tolerance,: are you serious?

    the ADL is an isreal organization, what tolerance? for psychotic jews maybe!
    the ADL has always been racist, from day one, you say anything about isreals occupation of the west bank and your anti-semetic,where is the tolerence,huh?

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/SK5YPMIHN7UVEYN545YBD4NWU4 Dave

    You got that right DCD!
    simple fact is that the american people are serious racists for the majority of them, this seems to come from their back peddling into 19 century christianity when the church espoused all kinds of racism!
    Simple fact is that ALL forms of fundalmentalism are a CANCER on the world, the Fundies are real busy making sure there is no peace in any corner of the world!
    do the world a favor folks , brow beat every fundie you come across until their ashamed of them selves and their family and their church, SCUM has no right to feel good about it self!

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/SK5YPMIHN7UVEYN545YBD4NWU4 Dave

    well moron, you don't know what a SEMITE is do you, the semites are the decendants of Abraham, the muslims and jews, look it up in a dictionary fool, you know the book with all the words in alphabetical order with the meaning of the words in smaller letters!
    PUTZ

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/SK5YPMIHN7UVEYN545YBD4NWU4 Dave

    sharia law isn't muslim, its tribal laws, learn the difference

  • Michael S Smith NJ

    Sorry I didn't get to use spell check ok ALOWE and BUILD is that better

  • http://twitter.com/ronaldjackson Ronald Jackson

    That's a COMPLETELY idiotic approach and point of view. Based on your approach, we would be in our rights to ban every single Christian house of worship from all of Europe and much of the Asia and the Middle East because of the untold hundreds of thousands (if not millions) who were killed, maimed, and tortured during the Spanish Inquisition and the Crusades in the name of Christianity.

    And we would be in our rights to ban every single Christian house of worship from all of North and South America because of the millions of Africans who died in the Middle Passage on their way to slavery in America, and all of the untold millions of Native Americans (North and South) who were wiped out in the name of Christianity. And less not forget all the thousands of blacks who were tortured, lynched, burned alive by Ku Klux Klansmen who claimed they were doing it in the name of white people and Christianity.

    Simply stated: To blame an entire religion for the actions of particular individuals or particular groups within that religion IS MERELY A SHALLOW EXCUSE FOR BIGOTRY.

  • grindermonkey

    They own you Dave, you've purchased the entire plan; it's easy to dismiss reality when your life is a myth.

  • grindermonkey

    Dave, you're making my head hurt here; I don't see any difference between the tribes and whatever it is that you claim to be non-tribal. Islam doesn't make this distinction and neither do the Ayatollas who run that show.

  • http://atlantapost.com/2010/08/03/bigotry-at-the-center-of-ground-zero-mosque-protest/ Bigotry at the Center of Ground Zero Mosque Protest | The Atlanta Post

    [...] League, a group that is supposed to fight against anti-semitism and other forms of racism, has joined the chorus of bigoted loonies to denounce this [...]

  • http://www.darkpolitricks.com/2010/08/wiesenthal-center-opposes-nyc-mosque-supports-museum-on-palestinian-graveyard/ Wiesenthal Center opposes NYC mosque, supports museum on Palestinian graveyard | Dark Politricks

    [...] ADL was accused of “siding with bigots” when it announced last week that it opposed the construction of the Cordoba House, a Muslim [...]

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jack-Patzer/624388676 Jack Patzer

    Hopefully the ADL will figure this out and reverse their position on this. In the meantime, everyone should take a few minutes and go to http://newspile.weebly.com/ for a few laughs. Then we can all go back to being outraged.

  • http://www.dumboFreudenstein4464.com Alex Tortoriello

    This is true when you’re done reading in relation to because there are a multitude that are found online.

  • http://www.watermeloncams.com Live Cams

    Why is it a surprise to anyone that this lowsy president of ours would support the building of a structure of death. Obama has done absolutely nothing for this country except make it worse.He is just another BS’er politician

  • http://www.watermeloncams.com Live Cams

    But not one single thing that you said gives the government the right to stop the mosque. Protest the mosque. Do creative things like building the gay bar next door, but the President was 100% right when he said that they have a First Amendment right to build it there.

  • http://h2obeta.law.harvard.edu/viewProfile.do?userId=654688&message=saveUserImage.success attiveevola

    viagra herbal alternative,viagra online sales 345)()(

  • http://www.jewcy.com/user/26820/buy_viagra_online attiveevola

    viagra best prices,viagra cartoons 345)()(

  • http://www.facebook.com/pages/Lipitor-cost-Lipitor-side-effects-lipitor-generic/129289997121810 attiveevola
  • http://austinnv.com/ Sal Siering

    Good morning sir. How are you ? I like your post very much . Have a nice day .LOL bad introduction :p

  • http://www.titanseoexperts.com/ Robyn Mccumbers

    Good morning sir. How are you ? I like your post very much . Have a nice day .LOL bad introduction :p

  • http://www.best-cook-books.com cookbooks

    I have been reading your articles during my lunch break, and I have to admit the whole article has been very valuable and very well written. I thought I would let you know that for some reason this blog does not view well in Internet Explorer 8. I wish Microsoft would stop changing their software.

  • http://pcinternetbanking.com/chase-internet-banking chase online banking

    @chels I know what you mean, its hard to find good help these days. People now days just don’t have the work ethic they used to have. I mean consider whoever wrote this post, they must have been working hard to write that good and it took a good bit of their time I am sure. I work with people who couldn’t write like this if they tried, and getting them to try is hard enough as it is.

  • http://www.number-report.com/Reverse-Phone-Number-Services.html reverse phone number search

    Skillfully nuanced and tripping nigh my ex

  • http://wiki.swissentrepreneur.ch/index.php/User:Bewaqoof Dagny Morabito

    Just needed to say I truly appreciate your work on this blog site and the top quality blogposts you make. These type of posting are usually what keeps me personally going through the day time. I uncovered this post after a excellent buddy of my very own recommended it to me. I do some blogging and site-building personally and I am always grateful to observe others adding good quality data towards the community. I will absolutely be following and now have saved your website to my personal twitter account for others to check out.

  • http://www.dumboBunning4472.com Britney Werma

    When it is linked to I banish that scheme.

  • http://www.freetrafficsystem.com/british-petroleum-public-relations/ Public Relations SEO

    Hey very nice blog!! Man .. Beautiful .. Amazing .. I will bookmark your blog and take the feeds also…

  • http://www.americanwideloans.com fha streamline refinance

    This blog is extremely helpful. Thank you, I will come back soon.

  • http://www.freetrafficsystem.com/internet-marketing/ Public Relations Seo

    As a Newbie, I am always searching online for articles that can help me. Thank you

  • http://www.artigonal.com/medicina-alternativa-artigos/caralluma-actives-e-caralluma-actives-um-embuste-3633329.html Caralluma Actives Preço

    I’m wondering now if we can talk about your sites statistics – search volume, etc, I’m trying to sites I can buy adspace through – let me know if we can talk about pricing and whatnot. Cheers mate you’re doing a great job though.