Cops: Man charged after referring to Conn. rampage

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Friday, August 6, 2010 11:24 EST
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Police: Man arrested at Conn. company for saying he understood mindset of shooter who killed 9

Connecticut police say they arrested a man at a management company after he mentioned the shooting rampage across the state that killed nine people and said he understood the killer’s mindset.

Fifty-eight-year-old Francis Laskowski of Derby was charged with breach of peace Wednesday after making the comments while working at Fusco Management Co. in New Haven.

Nine people died in the shootings Tuesday at Hartford Distributors in Manchester, including gunman Omar Thornton. Thornton told police in a 911 call that he wanted to avenge racial discrimination, allegations that company officials denied.

Laskowski told The Associated Press on Friday that his comments were blown out of proportion. He says his arrest was “ridiculous” and he didn’t make any threats.

Laskowski posted bail and is due in New Haven Superior Court on Tuesday.

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  • Anonymous

    and the first amendment is… where? The only thing stupider as arresting someone for filming an arrest, which they are doing now as well. Christ.

  • Anonymous

    and the first amendment is… where? The only thing stupider as arresting someone for filming an arrest, which they are doing now as well. Christ.

  • captainfrank

    Man, that guy really broke the law when he did that free speech thing. How dare he speak his true feelings.

  • indi_progressive

    BREACH OF PEACE?!!! WTF???!!! NO ITS CALLED 1ST AMENDMENT!!!! LOOK IT UP!!! YOU WERE SWORN TO UPHOLD IT ASSHOLES!!!!

  • eekeller

    If “we” aren't being over the top one way, “we” are being over the top the other way. This is so over the top. “I understand” is now an imminent threat. Someone arrest Charlie Harper.

  • nickelthrower

    Yeah, how dare he! I mean, think of the children… and Support our Troops. . .and God Bless America. . .and Hope and Change.

    This guy could have ruined everything!

  • indi_progressive

    New Haven Police Department.
    (203) 946-6316
    Give em a call and tell them that you “understand the shooters mindset too”
    Lets see them come arrest all of us for “breach of peace”

  • cbgb2112

    Were there any people arrested when they said they understood the mindset of that loon that flew his plane into the IRS building? Or the guys that said they understood the mindset of the Oakland freeway shooter? Or the people that said that they understood the mindset of Timothy McVeigh? pft. What a crock.

  • cameramandavid

    Free Speech Zone: The area to which those who differ from the administration are confined should they be so audacious as to wish to exercise their right of free speech.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NTOUXVLC2DJPT34AVJJZTFFT2I Rick

    WHAT??? The former United States of America has become an utter cesspool of right wing authoritarian goose stepping. Way to destroy the experiment in under 300 years!

  • scytherius

    There is no U.S. anymore. It is a police state pure and simple.

    So I assume Glenn Beck will be arrested next?

    I can think of no better quote than “fuck the police”.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NTOUXVLC2DJPT34AVJJZTFFT2I Rick

    Bring on the attorneys, this guy should end up very wealthy after this clear breech of his Constitutional rights, not to mention his civil rights. This is not Somalia, this is supposed to be the “greatest nation on the earth”. In reality, the former USA is the world's worst, if this is the standard.

  • parrots_abound

    You can arrest someone for saying they 'understand' why someone did something?

    Screw thought crimes.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/ERZ43TY26SRWX4MJT6LZMR64AA Dirk

    But was he fired from his job and then made the comment?

  • http://www.facebook.com/D.Hotkiss Douglas Hotchkiss

    and now you will understand the new world order mindset.
    keep your mouth shut and return to your workstation.

  • http://historyindeed.com HIStory Indeed

    Can you imagine the mindset of the droid that actually thought to call the police?

    I hope he or she received a fluoride flavored cookie from the arresting officer… doh!

  • WJM51

    I'd REALLY like to see what the final outcome of this is gong to be. I suspect there will be one WHOPPER of a lawsuit from it. If I were arrested for saying something, you can bet there would a HUGE fight over it. The cops are risking a huge issue with this.

    Was he ranting, or just working and commenting? Was he screaming about how he got it, OH, YEAH, I GET IT, or was he just talking to his coworkers and they over reacted? Someone is going to have to learn a lesson over this, and I suspect it is going to be expensive.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SG3UMGTR653T733YHMWNMGKQCE Skyguy

    This is simply not right. When are the sheep gonna say no? For that matter HOW do we say no? It is great and wonderful to talk about “rising up against the man” but truth be told it has become impossible. As evidenced by this story one can not even say out loud something that “The Man” does not want to hear.

    Sure he will sue, he might even win. However it won't change a damn thing. This Country is done, it is impossible to fight back by votes or violence.

  • peterlawrence

    Breach of peace?!!! WTF is that!? Sounds like a violation of free speech to arrest him. I understood why that guy flew into a building in Florida last year so come arrest me you fkn bstards!

  • peterlawrence

    Breach of peace?!!! WTF is that!? Sounds like a violation of free speech to arrest him. I understood why that guy flew into a building in Florida last year so come arrest me you fkn bstards!

  • Debtslave

    That is just plain nuts ! Psychologists also understand the mindsets of all kinds of people and they say it in court on record all of the time. I don't see them being locked up for their opinions.

  • overdoneputaforkinit

    Imagine the mindset of the Staples store employee who called police after Julie Olearcek, a USAF Reserve pilot, asked if they had flight simulator software for her 10 year old son.

  • JeremiahsJohnson

    You know, I, along with what I suspect are many others, would actually have considered doing something like that pre-9/11. But with the Patriot Act, the No-Fly List, and all the other “Homeland Security” BS out there, our voices and liberties are being suppressed by simply the fear of being identified by our government as a potential threat. ALL OF THIS, mind you, taking place in the short space of just a few years.

    We have given up so much of what is becoming less and less 'the land of the free, home of the brave'. As a society, we have willing (naively might be be accurate) made these sacrifices, but only because our government practically brainwashed us into it. At a minimum, they have very skillfully used propaganda to manipulate and suppress how individuals choose to act. This, in itself, is an example of how we are losing our freedoms.

    And we certainly are less brave than we used to be. Our government would like us to think we are brave because we go to Iraq, Afghanistan, or wherever-the-hell we want to defeat some demonic enemy. When, in fact, we are truly brave when we recognize our liberties have been taken away and demand they be restored. It's the difference between bravado and bravery.

  • iRead

    In my call, do you suppose it would be inappropriate to mention something like 'I understand the sentiment “Cap a cop for your country!”?

    Of course it would be.

    But inappropriate IS NOT THE SAME as illegal.

    Our country, it seems, is declaring de-facto war against its citizenry. While those who looted our treasury skate away into generations of lavish living, while torturers and liars conduct our foreign policy, spending trillions on no-bid contracts you and I will never see a dime of, while first responders to 9/11 are denied health benefits because it would crimp the ability of foreign corporations to escape taxes, while millions cannot find jobs, and lose their homes…

    …it is a crime to understand frustration?

    A fed cop shot a dog in my area, and was given an immediate 'nothing to see here' pass from his chief. Only when the county executive intervened was there promise of an investigation. My bet, the cop gets cleared with no consequence.

    Best idea ever: DO NOT TALK TO, OR COOPERATE WITH _ANY_ LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENT, UNDER _ANY_ CIRCUMSTANCES _EVER_. They have become thought police, and always have been the enforcement arm of the wealthy.
    Shun them like the Ebola virus. They are here neither to protect nor serve you, unless, of course, you are a corporation.

  • GonzoVeritas

    Don't think. Move along. No opinions, either!

  • radek1

    What is it? North Korea?

  • felixthecatxxxx
  • Savantster

    WHAT?!

    I'm so leaving. If I have to sneak into Canada and say eh? a lot, so be it.. but I'm so outta here.

    eh?

  • puredemocracy

    There are far too many police and they are far too intrusive — but as we allow overpopulation to jam us closer and closer together, we will suffer a more and more intrusive and authoritarian state, where there is not even room for an opinion.

    6.85 billion is already far too many. Several of the planet's life support systems have been pushed far beyond capacity.

  • markusgarvey

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  • pinroot

    Yeah, I'm really loving the way Obama has rolled back the worst of Bush's executive orders, instituted transparency in government, given us five days to read all major legislation on-line, voted against the Patriot Act, finally brought all the troops back home where they belong and in general done away with all that right wing authoritarian shit.

  • pinroot

    Today, it's “land of the fee (as in “taxes on damn near everything”), home of the slave”

  • Hologram5

    Gee, whatever happened to the freedom of speech? Gone I take it?

  • Horus45

    He SAID it, he didn't just “think it”.

  • Horus45

    You are a moron to even THINK that Obama would have done all that in his first 18 months in office!
    He might have done all that had he received even a little help from Republitards.

  • Horus45

    How can you make that comment when you don't know a single thing about: How, Where and to Whom he said this?
    YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT!

  • captainfrank

    No where to run from the empire.

  • Horus45

    Not one of you know a damn thing about who where and how he said this!
    So, just STFU until you know.

  • jartco

    here's one way to say no;
    fight back.hit them where it hurts the most-the pocketbook.here's 2 suggestions:stop supporting pro sports.why?well back around the middle to late 60's the very best athletes were just breaking the 100,000 dollar mark.back then a decent paying middle class job paid around 10,000.ten times as much-sounds fair to me.they deserve it.now top athletes have salaries exceding 25 million a year and an extremely good middle class job pays 100,000.thats 250 times as much plus they get all kinds of bonuses,endorsements,etc.,etc…it's a damn shame when alex rodriquez makes more money every time he comes up to bat than the average family makes in a year.and he bats about 3.6 times a game.(this goes for the highly paid actors and actresses too)…and 2nd,cancel pay t.v…watch the corporate world scramble.there's really nothing worth watching anyway and you could probably find it on the internet anyway.(why not give up the internet?it's our only hope for truth).any other suggestions????

  • tenorlord

    “Home of the brave” my ass!

  • robweeve

    the thought police are next

  • robweeve

    the thought police are next

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  • gerry1230

    They're here, they're here.

  • gerry1230

    My friend. How long do we wait? This story will be gone in 24 hrs.

  • gerry1230

    Years ago when something like this happened locally, me and a coworker joked that we hoped the shooter got everybody on his list. We were expressing our own frustration with our workplace although neither of would have chosen to shoot the place up to solve our problems. No one then thought any thing of it. Today we would be arrested. After all, what we said was ten times worse then what this guy said.

  • billos

    I live in CT. It's been a Police State for 20 years now. I got threatened with arrest for telling a trooper that I thought the order of words his emblem spelled out on his “cap” was backwards. Instead of 'State Police' I told him it should read 'Police State'. He got really mad…………and I'm an ex-cop. Things weren't this bad back in the 70's…….

  • Elim

    So now they are arresting people for their opinions?

  • Elim

    That would be a good intro to a police state documentary.

  • w000t

    That insolent serf got what he deserved. He's lucky he didn't get sent straight to the torture camp.

  • jaspervonblowhole

    Thoughtcrime.
    Read your Orwell

  • Elim

    Next, they'll be arresting folks for the way they look at co-workers while a certain topic is being discussed.

  • Elim

    Look, the only way this arrest could be an acceptable application of the law is if this guy said it as a threat to co-workers who believed him capable of carrying it out. If his co-workers recognized him as being under stress or “put-upon” for whatever reason, they may very well have taken it as a threat. There is not enough info in this story to tell what's what.

  • w000t

    Yeah, like when he said, in a very, very menacing way: “I understand this man's mindset”.

  • felixthecatxxxx

    Okay…how many of you people who liked this have actually called the New Haven police? What did they say?

  • gary2515

    … in a very, very menacing way …. “woot woot !”

  • w000t

    Based on the report as presented, we, the people, will make a provisional judgment. That judgment is that the arrest is batshit insane and illustrative of the police state we are all subjects of.

    Period. You can “enlighten” us with your so-called “mitigating” factors later.

  • w000t

    Why is he a moron to think Obama should execute his duties while obeying the Constitution? I think you are a complete moron to suggest that taking action against Constitutional violations can wait.

    Thank you.

  • w000t

    I understand the killer's mindset too.

    There, I said it. Now what, fascist piece of shit? What are you going to do about that?

  • motelcalifornia

    Amazing!!!

  • motelcalifornia

    You know that the white collar workers are all middle class twits who hardly ever find a noose hanging from their lockers. They probably don't even have lockers. Okay, cubicles. They probably see the rampage as targeting management only, but notice that he took down one of his “union brothers.”

  • motelcalifornia

    Indeed, many law enforcement officers today appear to be sort of…cryogenic.

  • motelcalifornia

    That's how far we have gotten. The ruling class is not amused…at all.

  • motelcalifornia

    You forgot to say, “This is a recording.” LOL

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/David-Williams/520612770 David Williams

    How can what he said be considered Imminent Lawless Action since he appears to be speaking rhetorically?

  • motelcalifornia

    I don't understand your mindset.

  • motelcalifornia

    It's not the police. It's what they expect them to do. Some (maybe all) states have what they call terroristic threats. When I was a kid, someone would have asked, “What did you call me?” And a fight would start on the spot.

  • motelcalifornia

    Yep… They are IL-LING<>!!

  • motelcalifornia

    Yes, but middle class twits trust them. In fact, most neurotics are middle class twits

  • motelcalifornia

    Exactly what you said. These fucking managers never learn to quit firing people for what they say.

  • motelcalifornia

    Er….use the force?

  • motelcalifornia

    If they get him to cop a plea to a lower charge, they can write him up.

  • motelcalifornia

    That's right. You can be arrested for saying, “Omar ain't heavy….he is my brother.”

  • motelcalifornia

    They can read his mind. Use lead gloves when using a computer.

  • motelcalifornia

    You are not a FUCKO Managment employee. LOL

  • jdouglas

    this is a society (sic) of psychopaths. Psychopaths have finally achieved critical mass. Police officers are just its public face.

  • motelcalifornia

    That is why, when he gets to court, HE MUST REFUDIATE what he said. LMAO

  • motelcalifornia

    Let me guess, it is right next to the parking lot?

  • markusgarvey

    no…copypasta!… =)

  • motelcalifornia

    You guys know who else would also be arrested? Todd Rundgren!!!

    Listen to this – every day when I get home from work
    I feel so frustrated, the boss is a jerk
    And I get my sticks and go out to the shed
    And I pound on that drum like it was the boss's head

  • motelcalifornia

    WARNING: Dark humor

    Entry for Omar Thornton's August 4, 2010:

    Search…Seek and destroy

    OMG! That was funny! LOL

  • motelcalifornia

    Glenn Beck is straight out of Compton??? WOW

  • motelcalifornia

    Those were not FUCKO Management employees.

  • bigdawg1

    Oh boy! Time to resurrect the “Pre-Crime Unit” a la “Minority Report.”

    You mean to tell all of us that someone out there has never had the thought of bashing in some jerk's head!?! We all have! It's the “not acting on the impulse” that keeps us legal.
    This will be thrown out as a free speech violation.

  • Big_Alpha1

    So when is this guy going to be burned at the stake, or did that happen only in Massachusetts?

  • n3542576

    If the prosecutor is crazy enough to pursue the case it could have the beneficial effect of an appellate decision setting limits on arrests for non-threatening speech.

  • WhodaThunkit

    So if we “understand” that big banks and investment corporations are motivated by sheer greed, does that automatically mean that because we understand, we also condone and support it?

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/2ACDKT2VKMZGOPW7DBPZV4Y5GM ANTHONY PERONE

    Last time I looked,…people were free to say whatever they like so long as it was not racial, threatening, or inciting to violence.Attached to our Bill of Rights should be a column of asterisks
    to 'clarify' what the rights really are. 'Ol Laskowski just needs to get with the program. Why, he might even have the cheek to say he has the right to criticize FOX news.!

  • Rufus

    Well, you should be arrested for battery!!! Hitting your boss's head with a stick — a harmful or offensive touching. hehehe.

  • iRead

    My bet is that perhaps they're a bit short-handed in the police academy's department of philosophy.

  • jdouglas

    She just said to me “Do you have a complaint? sir, I'm not going to have this conversation with you..”

  • iRead

    While “American” police (land of the free, etc.) arrest people for expressing an conceptual understanding of another person's frustration, here's how they're dealing with free speech in Australia…

    (As referenced here, today:) http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/breaking-…

    Read 'em and weep.

  • peterlawrence

    I was cuffed and searched, both me and my vehicle, because after a long day I was sitting in my car decompressing before turning in. Trust me when I say, CT does not corner the market on crooked cops… !00% of all cops in every corner of the planet are criminals once on the force for a few days. Not 99.9%… 100%! All fkn criminals! I'm sure you were too, just not as bad as today's cops.

  • Anonymous

    Ha ha ha, okay, I must admit that’s a good one.

  • Liberal_1

    Be happy to have you Sanvantster but you must learn how to use “eh” in the proper context or we would know right away. We use it as a confirmation to something we said, sort of a question mark but not really, more like “don't you think” without the expectation of a response. Maybe more like a “period”. I realised after seeing the States using it in the wrong way that we must keep it Canadianized :) It is mostly used in a positive comment It's a beautiful day , eh, but occasionally we say, it's a cold day, eh, or he's f@#k@g jerk, eh.
    So come, talk about (not aboot) the weather a LOT and you'll be safe. (Once we get rid of , vote out I mean, Harper…he's not too fond of immigrants you see.)

  • Druthers

    And the real danger is that other people may be THINKING they also “understand” this mindset.
    Where is the thought police?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QTLCTH627KX7SDC3ZTDUN7QFTU deborah

    empathy is against the law. And possibly the guy farted too and it stunk. Is that enough?

  • billos

    Actually I quit and gave up a 20 year career because I became a staunch opponent against the War on Drugs. Regrets? Kind of. Now I have to work 'till I'm 66. 8 more years. However any principle worth fighting for demands a sacrifice. As in any war or a war against a war.

  • http://twitter.com/aukxsona aukxsona

    Do what the Americans did during the revolutionary war, Starve the beast. Do not buy a fcking thing. Kill the tax money that pays the bastards to terrorize you.

  • boutet

    As much as I applaud the exercise of free speech, I still think it is impolite to tell a woman, even a policewoman, to f**k off except under the most extraordinary circumstances.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Theodore-R-Blodgett/1332815109 Theodore R. Blodgett

    I had to wonder the same. It makes no mention of who the statement was said to or in what context. If they were standing around the water cooler talking about the case and he commented that it's understandable. If on the other hand it wasn't the a subject of discussion and he was upset with co-workers and said it then it could be considered threatening. But even then not a criminal threat. There would have to be incontrovertible evidence that he had means and intent for it to be considered criminal. And it's a poorly done article that doesn't tell us that. Journalism today sucks, it's sloppy and lacking in contextual facts.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Theodore-R-Blodgett/1332815109 Theodore R. Blodgett

    I've been doing both of those for many years now. It is a good start.

  • Foxhunter

    The Patriots breached the peace when they discussed, wrote and signed the Declaration of Independence and proceeded to fight and defeat the English in the Revolutionary War. This should get tossed out of court. Tell the Nazi cops who did this to go back to Germany. Oh, thats right, Germany is much more liberal now than we are. He fits in better here.

  • peterlawrence

    Yes, we all make them yet we still seem to be losing the war.

  • Syed92

    I live 100s of miles away from this loser and I have been to Connecticut a few decades ago, I can tell you his mindset. May be the CT loser police will get arrest warrants and extradite me to Connecticut to prosecute. If the CT police was not a loser, they would know the mindset of the killer as well!

  • Syed92

    When you see a coloured person and a pink man commit same crime and coloured gets punished with 15 years in prison, while the pink man gets a slap on the hand.
    When a blackman passing by gets punished for being there, while pink man can commit a crime and blame it on black man, and goes free!
    When the coloured people do not see justice, RATHER KILL ALL THE SONS OF HAM, then anybody living thousands of miles away can understand the mindset of the oppressed peoples.

  • Druthers

    My remark was sarcasm, meaning that we are just a step away from the thought police.

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