Wow. Just…. wow.

Cannot really blame them, most of us think US students are dumb as dogs

Ignorance is us. The dumber we are, the better chance the repukes have for winning.

Thank you mr. ray-gun for killing our future.

This is just a new verse of an old song. During our participation in the Vietnam conflict, high school students used roam city streets with excerpts from the Bill of Rights of the Constitution of the United States and our Declaration of Independence, and were routinely denounced by so-called “conservatives” for spreading “communist” and “socialist” propaganda. Ask many of today’s high school students back home in Dallas to point out on a map of the world where Switzerland is, or even South Dakota, and you’ll draw a blank.

No child left behind has made it’s mark and congrats for turning America’s youth into a bunch of ignorant test takers. Then again, since America is a ‘city on a hill’ and it’s people have exceptional-ism because of has god’s grace, who needs to know anything more than that?

…..don’t know much about history, don’t know much about biology……

Now we know why Obama is POTUS, why there are wars of choice in Iraq, Afghanistan and many more countries we don’t even know about. Americans are for the most part so ignorant of history that they simply think Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia. “Those who refuse to learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.” George Santyana

Few have good geographical knowledge. Studies in many countries across many decades show. I chalk it up to the fact that most daily routines don’t require geographical knowledge so effort is placed elsewhere. It also highlights media’s failure to educate on many topics that really do matter.

And the dumbification of America is complete.

Even my dimwitted son Fredo, who is stupid and weak, is well aware of this information.
What has the new generation become…

Well, when you consider that US schools have been so “dummed down” for the sake of Federal Dollars, this comes as no surprise!

Strategrery! No child left a mind.

Education is a better safeguard of liberty than a standing army. So the powers that be must kill it.

They are negatively affected by parents who call them “stupid and weak”.

Since much of the information in this “test” is cultural (really, how important is Michael Jackson, Clint Eastwood, or Mike Tyson), then it actually says more about family life than it does the education system.

Most of this information comes from talking to parents and grandparents. And it is usually a big part of the dinner table conversations. Today, kids are given all kinds of electronic babysitters so parents can be left alone. Not many people cook real meals anymore and few families eat together around the dinner table.

Unplugging the family for a couple hours every day can fix this gap in knowledge of “recent history” pretty quickly.

face it, they are starting kids off young with this junk. In my day, we had The Our Gang Series, Mickey Mouse Club, among others regionally, and these all contained less violence and subliminal messaging. If I had young kids, they wouldn’t be babysat with the garbage shown today.

One of my favorites from Jay Walking…

1st Question
(jay) Who lives at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave?

(girl) looks puzzled and gives up

2nd Question
(jay) Who lives in a pineapple under the sea?

(girl) big smile and very proud of herself say…. Sponge Bob.

Its easy to sell Al Queda, 911, Iraq, 3 trillion to fight a completely non-existent army for 10 years. torture, wiretapping. We are all seriously in deep shit… It will not get better than where we are right now… unless people replace the criminals in congress who were supposed to make sure none of the ever happened, and to investigate, prosecute the guilty to make sure it never happened again. Instead, they took the $$$$ and said screw the idiots.

Only “some” of it is cultural (and some arguably national, like Jackson or the criminal boxer Tyson), but a lot of it is history.. Kids today are both ignorant of important aspects of our history and living a totally different “culture” than those from just 20 years ago.

The new culture is not an issue, but failing to know history is a serious problem. The new culture is rooted in new technologies, and every time you introduce new technology you have new behaviors; that isn’t “bad” on it’s face. Cars came to be in the 20s (mainstreamed), and kids that grew up with cars (born in the 30s) were a “driving culture” in their twenties.. and that’s when “drive ins” and “cruising for entertainment and social interaction” became huge. Not much changed until Cable (TV was there, and making an impact, but nothing too major).. That killed a lot of the “cruising and drive in” culture.. My generation grew up with MTV (when they played music) and video games were coming out, cruising lost most of its appeal (I remember going to drive in movies as a young kid.. how many of those are still around?). Now computers are out there, and even most people in my generation aren’t up to speed on it, but my kid grew up using one, she’s very comfortable with them (though she doesn’t care how they work, which saddens me). The internet is killing “TV” to a large degree, kids are chatting up online and watching YouTube vids.

The only problem I see (at a glance) of the “lost culture” is just knowing it was there.. it’s indicative of a new paradigm that moves too fast to care about the past, and that runs parallel with knowing History (the important stuff, not that Eastwood was Dirty Harry). When it took 20 minutes to get to your friends, you might actually talk about things in depth, but when you can FaceBook 20 people at a time with no real investment to do it, everything is superficial. THAT is a potential problem (for now, it might sort itself all out, who knows).

Some 60% of more of the people in this country don’t know how many States we have.

Dogs are smarter.

They want the population dumb, don’t they? Easier to control & steal from.

I just wanna point out that the headline and accompanying article is *very* misleading. No, it’s not true that “Most US students think Beethoven is a dog”. This information was not based on any specific survey given to a range of incoming college students. It was invented by two university employees, who are using this kind of information as shock value to make other faculty and admins feel old.

The statement in the headline is based on the fact that the “Beethoven” movies were all released *before* any of the incoming freshmen were born. This does not mean that *any* students “think Beethoven is a dog” in any demonstrable way. Same goes for all of the other claims enumerated in the text.

If anyone disputes this, then show me a citation of some published academic work that this list is based on. I want numbers.

“Mission Accomplished” America is now ripe for full 1984 mind control. But it makes it fun for us older folk to joke on a totally different astral plane now!

So true! When I was young, I was exposed to the “William Tell Overture” on BUGGS BUNNY! And I remember one of the Polevtskian Dances was played in another” Loony Tunes” cartoon of little elves making shoes for an old world sleeping cobbler. There was tons of “culture” and the arts in the old cartoons. No killing or destruction like today’s “Transfromers” and other such drivel.

Bravely sit with your child and quiz them after school to find out what they are missing in the carriculae and teach them yourself the missing bits, rather than moan about how stupid they have become, you might learn something.

Obama was elected as the POTUS by those who are not dumbed down. You must be confused with the right-wing base voter.

It is pitiful how ignorant our populace has become. They veg in front of a TV watching FAUX (FOX) News, eating MacDonalds….

I don’t feel old, just better educated than today’s kids. They have more access to info and use it less for education and more for entertainment.

What do you expect when half of the country thinks its evil to be intelligent.

This is what you get when your History books are from Texas.

I agree. Which is why it is even more important for parents and grandparents to fill in the blanks. We remember these things and can give life to history that books cannot.

My younguns’ first introduction to Michelangelo and Donatello were from the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. I took that opportunity to teach them the work of the artists they were named after. When I was teaching my grand daughter to recognize family members from their photos I added the Mona Lisa and that really cool Led Zeppelin print of the mystic on the mountaintop. One her first legible phrases came from an Abbot and Costello act.

When I read these types of articles I often ask my own children some of the same questions just to see if any of my conversations with them actually took hold. Fortunately they did.

The schools have been dummed down for political correctness, and to accomodate minority interests.

Feel Old? No, I think this says more about our education system if anything. After bush’s no child left behind it appears we have left alot of children behind.

I’ll bet if you ask old people these same types of questions about brand new things that young people know all about (twitter, farmville, etc.) the results would be much, much worse.

Yes because farmville is equivalent to Beethoven?

I’m calling bullsh#t on this one. The Michaelangelo virus was 19 years ago. Students entering college now would have to have an abiding interest in a fairly dry branch of computer developmental history to recall that whereas Michaelangelo the man is mentioned fairly often in popular culture. And why would students know John McEnroe as an actor in commercials? Its not like his name is at the bottom of the screen. If they know who he is then they would know why, so to speak. I could go on but I’m starting to bore myself. What a waste of 5 minutes this was.

You must be confused to think being a Democrat automatically makes you smart. Two other distinct traits that have nothing to do with brains but might make you be a Democrat are “wanting something for nothing (welfare)”, and “compassion (the real kind)”.

There is nothing in reality that supports Obama won because of “smart people”, and everything to support that it was simply a reaction to the massive failures of Bush and his party. That doesn’t take “big brains”, that just takes being fed up.

“Which is why it is even more important for parents and grandparents to fill in the blanks.”

I don’t think “most parents” have been filling in the blanks for 30 or 40 years.. about the same time Granny was shipped off to the “retirement home” as standard practice in Middle Class America.

I, like you, spent a lot of time “bringing her back” to an older pinning of things as they crept up. That, I don’t think, has been “common” in the “modern world”. The speed of cultural change these days alienates kids from parents at a very young age, and the parent actually has to ‘work’ at staying in the conscience of the child. That’s too much work in this two family income world we’re in.. at least for most parents. It’s the “rat race”, after all. And we’re becoming a nation of rats as a result.

If you want to consider the ultra rich a minority, then you’re right. It sure as hell wasn’t done to help the REAL people of this country. It started during Reagan’s time, when he made William “I’m a COMPLETE hypocrite” Bennett in charge as the “education Czar”. Art, music, history, science, civics, and anything else that allowed a student to learn to think was eliminated. The education of the country’s children was placed in the hands of lots of private “advisory companies”, like the one owned by Neil “I’m an S&L looter” Bush and his Mommy with her “beautiful mind”. They make money on screwing up YOUR kids (I, thank God, don’t have any) on a really neat little swindle that nets them millions a year.

And ever since the introduction of these programs, I’ve noticed a definite rush to the bottom, where those kids who are the most insistently stupid are the ones who everyone lauds. Those with a brain are considered the losers, where they will be the ones with a freaking CHANCE at a life.

How else do you explain Sarah Freaking Palin being considered anything BUT a complete ignoramus? In the country I grew up in (I’m 52 next week) She would be the laughing stock of the entire country, not worshiped specifically BECAUSE she is so freaking STUPID.

Yep, those minorities have done a number on education in this country. And they have gotten quite rich doing it. Or should I say, they have added to their already overinflated bank books by doing so.

If you want to consider the ultra rich a minority, then you’re right. It sure as hell wasn’t done to help the REAL people of this country. It started during Reagan’s time, when he made William “I’m a COMPLETE hypocrite” Bennett in charge as the “education Czar”. Art, music, history, science, civics, and anything else that allowed a student to learn to think was eliminated. The education of the country’s children was placed in the hands of lots of private “advisory companies”, like the one owned by Neil “I’m an S&L looter” Bush and his Mommy with her “beautiful mind”. They make money on screwing up YOUR kids (I, thank God, don’t have any) on a really neat little swindle that nets them millions a year.

And ever since the introduction of these programs, I’ve noticed a definite rush to the bottom, where those kids who are the most insistently stupid are the ones who everyone lauds. Those with a brain are considered the losers, where they will be the ones with a freaking CHANCE at a life.

How else do you explain Sarah Freaking Palin being considered anything BUT a complete ignoramus? In the country I grew up in (I’m 52 next week) She would be the laughing stock of the entire country, not worshiped specifically BECAUSE she is so freaking STUPID.

Yep, those minorities have done a number on education in this country. And they have gotten quite rich doing it. Or should I say, they have added to their already overinflated bank books by doing so.

Why would it make me feel OLD. So people are as stupid as they always were. It just makes me feel SMART!

“That’s too much work in this two family income world we’re in.. at least for most parents. It’s the “rat race”, after all. And we’re becoming a nation of rats as a result”

So true. But it doesn’t have to be this way. It just takes a slight shift in the way we have set up the system. We can pay everyone a real living salary and even shorter hours with more vacations. We can provide health care and education for everyone. We can get rid of the debt-based monetary system. We stop manufacturing crap we don’t need at volumes that only overload the dumps and go back to making quality products that last many years at affordable prices. We can value stay-at-home parents or grandparents by providing them a monetary incentive and a retirement package.

To pay for this we eliminate the minimum wage and create a maximum wage of, say, $100 million. Any income over this must be donated to a charity that benefits society as a whole. We unplug the war machine and eliminate the nuclear arsenal. We take “legal personhood” away from the corporations. It can be fixed if we just think about what’s good for every child and not just the wealthy ones.

Are they all competent with a kalachnikov? Freedom needs them.

Dont’t worry yaw…jesus will provide! ………………………. SNARK! at 50…. So glad I don’t have kids…this country has been dumbed down since Reagan aka GOP have been in ofc…GOP mantra…Keep’m stupid,and scared of the “other”

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we were just as stupid. In fact, most of my generation still believe that Oswald was the lone assassin and that we live in a democratic republic. Most of us don’t have a clue that Beethoven was “black as a Moor” or that the FBI announced that it doesn’t have a shred of evidence that Osama bin Laden was involved in 911 or that the World Trade towers collapsed due to controlled demolitions. Most in my generation don’t have a clue what the Balfour Declaration is about or that it appeared in the form of a letter addressed to Baron Rothschild. Most of my generation can’t tell you what the “October Surprise” was or that George H. W. Bush was conducting secret wars on Latin America, looking the other way as cocaine was being trafficked into California and along the Gulf Coast, or that he is a pedophile in the Franklin Scandal. Most of my generation can’t tell you what MKULTRA was about or that the CIA perpetrated the first act of airline terrorism by bringing down a Cuban flight filled with young Cuban athletes or that Castro was being set up for the Kennedy Assassination as a false-flag to justify a second invasion of Cuba. We can’t tell you what Mongoose was or Nixon’s part in it, that MLK had come out against the Vietnam War before he was assassinated. That don’t have a clue that the story of the “welfare mother” in Chicago who drove a “welfare Cadillac” was a story invented by the Reagan campaign out of whole cloth. We still believe Saddam had weapons of mass destruction, a relationship with “al Qaeda” and had a program to produce nuclear weapons. We can’t tell you what a counterinsurgency strategy is or why it matters. We can’t tell you shit.

As much as it could be “fixed”, surely you see that it’s “broke” on purpose. Everything you need to do to fix it takes money from the rich, and the rich (the few who are) are the ones in charge, and the ones who intentionally broke it to begin with.

It should be clear, with illegal occupations that are bankrupting the nation while we slip further down the global rankings on education and health, that it is intentionally broken.. we’re going bankrupt, but we’re giving tons of cash to the top 1% while we do it.

Or that the world is only 6000 years old.

Typical.

Here is an idea: make all business majors take the following courses in order to graduate: Art History or Art Appreciation, a course in music, Introduction to Philosophy, a “non-Western societies” course (could be history, philosophy, whatever), and a history or philosophy of science course. And teach them how the scientific method works in biology, chemistry, and physics!

“NCLB has made it’s mark…..it’s people….”

It’s is NEVER possessive. It’s always a contraction meaning “it is”

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You are correct or even where Canada located.

Next, American students and graduates will not know that Canada is our Northern neighbor and Mexico is our Southern neighbor. Our education system have more Superintendents, Asst Sups, Deputy Sups, Deputy Asst Sups, Asst Deputy Sups, etc all at a minimum salaries of $150,000.00 with extraordinary benefits (health, dental, vision, life insurance, mortgage assistance, ADD, pensions, etc.) that this will backfire on this country. America will not be able to sustain a $600 BILLION armed forces for years to come seeing the type of graduates we are producing. The ONLY hope is a DIVINE INTERVENTION. BTW, I am not a CHRISTIAN or a CATHOLIC.

It won’t be long before their family dogs will be teaching them to “fetch”, to do tricks and lay about in the yard like dog turds.

As Dan Quayle once said, “It’s a terrible thing to lose one’s mind.”

You’ve struck the nail on the head smcc511: They have total access to tons of data and information via smartphones, laptops, the Internet and still we are where we are.

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They are just counting the confederate states.

Shhh. Don’t tell anyone. We were having so much fun.

FAUX NEWS is now the official platform for the tory party.

…and they put 2 dinosaur eggs on noah’s ark.

Ha ha ha ha ha.

About those reality shows?

..”Balfour Declaration”…Nice. We can also add the USS Liberty and how all that cocaine all of a sudden appeared on the streets in the poor black neighborhoods in the ’80′s. And, how/why a person on a bus would make a black pregnant lady go all the way to the back of the bus or if there were no seats, she would have to stand, because a white person would not give her a seat. What kind of a person does this.

..”Balfour Declaration”…Nice. We can also add the USS Liberty and how all that cocaine all of a sudden appeared on the streets in the poor black neighborhoods in the ’80′s. And, how/why a person on a bus would make a black pregnant lady go all the way to the back of the bus or if there were no seats, she would have to stand, because a white person would not give her a seat. What kind of a person does this.

So the standardization testing is up huh?

It doesn’t make me feel old. It makes me feel educated and intelligent. There’s a difference.

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Go ahead, blame it on secular humanist public school MATH teachers who failed to teach MUSIC HISTORY properly.

All business majors care about other cultures is how to screw them out of their money.

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If the education our children receive was in any way different than what was wanted, then it would most assuredly would be changed.

Every springbreak party proofs it!

No child left behind!

From Hot_Rod_Harry below

“Next, American students and graduates will not know that Canada is our Northern neighbor and Mexico is our Southern neighbor.”

I saw this lack of knowledge back in the late 80s.

Teachers, one of the lowest paid professions in this country. Why?

Yet, stupid is as stupid does.

True power is derived from keeping your subjects stupid and fearful.

This is not a new concept. Just take a look at the history of religion.

Why is it that way too many vote against their personal best interests, if they vote at all?

Most of us are just the small people of the kingdom.

Nor, does it make me feel old. It makes me feel sad.

When I was a kid, a student, I thought the bar was raised quite high. (It wasn’t really.) Yet, with years of living, of experience, of having to adapt, I witnessed that bar get lower each year.

I saw this mostly when I didn’t attend college until my mid 20s. Damn, those younger kids were quite stupid!

Now, as a professional, someone who has the opportunity to conduct interviews for high-paying careers, most are still quite stupid outside, maybe, a specific area.

The lack of general knowledge is sad. But, it is also sad that I do believe I’m turning into the “Get off my lawn!” type of guy in response to an ever growing ignorant society.

The wording of the results of this list is imbecilic and I’m hoping it’s the work of the “journalist” who wrote this story and not of the handiwork of McBride and Nief. “Apartheid never existed in South Africa for the class of 2006″. “And for US students who got their bachelor’s degrees this year, Germany was never divided”. Really? I am hoping they meant that these events did not occur during their lifetimes. Or at least I hope they meant that the students were unaware of their occurrence, which is bad enough. Regardless of how little American students may now of fairly recent history, it still occurred. Apartheid *did* exist in South Africa, and Germany *was* divided. The writer of this story needs to go back to school A.S.A.P.

it’s evident that our political and business, duh, leaders are lame and stupid. why should their parasitic spawn be any different?

Being a Democrat doesn’t make you smart, but being a dumbass certainly results in Republicanism

I think that for some of these people, the fact that it didn’t happen during their lifetime means it probably didn’t happen at all….

I was in Hooter’s once talking with some friends (and the cute dumb waitress) and the topic of the Civil War came up. Our waitress actually looked at me and said, in all seriousness, “You’d know about that better than me since you were around back then.” She claimed to be a history major in college, but somehow, we doubted it after her remark.

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Right again! But, don’t forget. . . they are only 1% and we are the other 99%. That gives us the power if we can only stop fighting over petty differences and fight for what’s right together.

We have “No Child Left a Dime” to thank for this. Education through high school now turns out students who are capable of service jobs but little else.

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