“Commanding General’s Spiritual Fitness Concerts.” WTF??? Any soldiers “duty” is to kill on command. How freaking “spiritual” is that?

The military has become more religious. It is very scary. Back when I served, some 20 years ago, there were opportunities to attend religious events, but no-one was ever forced.

In my day, it was called fuck, fuck. Just another way troops get harassed by Senior NCOs and officers.

great……fundamental religious mentality in an armed force……isn’t that what these troops are “supposed” to be fighting elsewhere ?

“i simply wanted to…”, “it was not my intent…”

blah blah blah, what a crock of shit.

My thoughts exactly dude.

Wow, the Yanks have to fight the religious extremists over there, so they can be harassed by religious extremists in the US…..

It’s simply part of the crusade.

There is an agenda here as subtle as it is. Religion is nothing more than a belief system. The US military does not go unscathed from the influence of the Kol Nidre Gang who want to cultivate the nonsensical edict that Israel is “Chosen” and must be protected at all cost. What better way to mindbend the sheep in military garb, when their guard is down, and get them to embrace these ridiculous ideologies that when they are sent to the middle east, they are doing “God’s will” and protecting Israel from those “evil islamo-fascist Muslims”. The ruthless Zionista’s never sacrifice their own and even claim when an Israeli soldier is taken prisoner, the news,even in America, reports it as them being “kidnapped’. Welcome to the Jew-nited States of America.

Christians are waging war against our Constitution. It’s what they do.

“Commanding General’s Spiritual Fitness Concerts”

Sounds to me like the Commanding General is a Dominionist. I think it’s time he was relieved of command since he doesn’t understand some very basic precepts of this nation and how our military is supposed to be run.

Fuck him, get him out of that command position NOW!

History repeats itself. Weather it be the Roman Catholic Church spurring the crusaders on to commit acts of barbarism against the infidels, or Hitler doing the same against the Jews. Those in power always need an enemy to justify their aggression. The indoctrination and acceptance to the propaganda is the first step in demonizing the enemy. Once under the spell anything done to the enemy is seen as acceptable. Both sides do it. Just me, I think the world would be a much better place without all this religious crap. Then maybe we could live together in peace. All working for a common goal. To better ourselves and advance ourselves as a species. To leave the world a better place for the generations of our children that will follow us.

This officer should be dishonorably discharged.

We have no freedom of religion anymore. Haven’t for sometime. Evidenced by this and all the hatred toward the Moslems or anyone different. Make us also seem very ignorant.

a while back there was an incident where they were distributing Dari-and Pashto-language New Testament Bibles….
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/05/bibles-destroye.html

Eric Price is pussy.

Sorry meant Eric Prince of Blackwater fame

Xe (blackwater) consider themselves “Crusaders”…my buddy worked for them and this was one of the many reasons he quit…

Nothing against religion, but there should be no government (i.e. military)/brand of religion (i.e. Christian) connection, period. Why the hell do you think this country was founded? Which brings me to the subject of this mosque in NYC. The government needs to stay out of it, including expressing “opinions” on whether it should be built. If Wiccans want to build a temple there, and have the money, why wouldn’t they be allowed? What’s the point of this country if our citizens do not have freedom of religion?

“Central Command General Order No. 1 specifically forbids “proselytizing of any faith, religion or practice.”

This means the “captain” in question should be court martialed. Shouldn’t he?

you WILL accept Jesus as lord or else!…

not if the high command is in on it…they wont allow him to be court martialed…they will just make it all disappear…they are above the law…

I am the Devil, I am the one making the rules…..

Christian concert ….Sounds so Gay, Lol ( no offense intended to my Queer brothers and sisters).

Maybe the army could harass the soldiers who refused to attend the concert, with accusations of homophobia.That would be fucking original

Christian musicians are posers who cant get attention any other way…

well..get busy then!…can you smite as well?..

Bullshit liar, that’s EXACTLY what it was, proselytizing.
He thought he could get away with it, and like a true lying coward “christian”, backtracked when he got called on it.

It has been a long time since I was this pissed off. I chose to be a marine BECAUSE I am not a christian. Christians are supposed to be Christ like: loving, kind, forgiving. Marines are none of those things. We are the what murders and madmen fear most. We are not black, white, Mexican, Irish, Jew, or gentile. We are professional killers. We are the ones who come to end the lives of our enemies. We do this with a deep sense of gratitude that we were made different than most other people who recoil at the thought of extreme violence. Someone has to protect the lambs of this world and we sure as hell can’t do it by becoming those lambs ourselves.

Christians have a history of destroying empires and countries that they live in. Today’s christians of today are again haters.

The Dominionists like to talk about “warriors for Christ;” they want people who will kill and torture in the name of Jesus. They want to install a fundamentalist christian government in the US that will use the death penalty on “apostates,” gay people, and anyone else they don’t like.
It’s amazing to me that so many are terrified of Muslim terrorists with guns taking over our government. The christian terrorists with guns are embedded in the Pentagon, Congress, the military…

same shit, different millennium.

Gerbil-man slips one foot out of the closet.

Hahaha, Biscuit boy has a scoop….

Any regular old timer Posters know I am Queer,they are also aware of my gender.

At first i thought you had the IQ of an ice scraper, but then it occurred to me that an ice scraper has 2 things you don’t have: Direction and purpose…..

Organized religion is nothing more than crowd control.

Military service is all about brainwashing, reprogramming, and controlling.

So of course these two go together like the Pentagon and terrorism.

I would clean “kiboos” and be waterboarded all day instead of going to a christer scream-fest. Wow, what horrible punishment, attending a frenzy-fed-freak show with live ammo. A big fuck you to the ones that pulled this off.

Yeah, you’re right. Look at the way Judaism gets welcomed on this site.

But he won’t stop -he’ll just dial it back a little for now, and build back up when things have blown over. Most of the sleaziest people I’ve known were Procelitizers.

It’s interesting that there were quite a few soldiers who went along with it out of fear of punishment or peer pressure -makes you wonder how many who call themselves Christian are only in it because of the community they live in, who would drop it if given a chance.

Lol,. you’re right. Its literally Cyber pogrom….The Crystal night Redux

“Commanding General’s Spiritual Fitness Concerts”? That’s already unconstitutional.

I think most of them just follow the money and adjust their music/stagecraft accordingly -if there was more money in Folk, thats where they’d be.

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/80822025/

So much for protecting our country which, by the way,
is supposed to respect freedom FROM Religion.

This christian crap (and that’s what it is – crap) has to come to an end. There is NO acceptable explanation for this offense – and it IS offensive.This is NOT a nation under god, jesus, muhammed, vishnu, confucius, etc. This IS a nation under law and we’d damned well better put religion in its proper place and keep it there. If we don’t, religion will destroy us and our nation.

I agree, wtf is up with that hairdo of his? Gay men aren’t that fussy with their hair. He has it styled just so and it’s lacquered into place. What a sissy!

Oh the times they are a changing.

Nothing wrong with Judaism. It’s Zionism or Zionism masquerading as Judiasm that people have a problem with.

And they are probably outspoken troops to boot and maybe closet cannabis users for PTSD. And as they said in the Corps, shit rolls down hill, orders from headquarters…….

….”When I was back there in
seminary school
There was a person there
Who put forth the proposition
That you can petition the Lord
with prayer
Petition the Lord with prayer
Petition the Lord with prayer
You cannot petition the Lord
with prayer.” Jim Morrison

The Evangelicalising of our Armed Forces has been going on for a long time. Most of the officers tend to be highly religious and intolerant of those that aren’t. They take great secretive steps to place their people on the ladder of success with what every officers wets himself over, their Officer Evaluation Report (OER), and unit placement. Officers are faced with a choice: become a fundamentalist Christian in everything you do or your career will stall and one won’t get the choice assignments. If you aren’t nervous by this trend, then you should be. Many Officers see themselves as the Warriors of God in his Army. Pushing Fundamentalist Christian attitudes downward promotes a dehumanization of one’s enemies…the so called ragheads/Musleems/terroreests/insert racist comment here/etc…that makes the combat atmosphere conducive to severe violence and atrocities.
Many of these officers believe themselves on a spiritual Crusade in the Middle East.
I spent MANY years in the Army and I was routinely discriminated against and silently punished for not being a Christian, expressing “Liberal” views and attitudes, standing up for my rights and those that weren’t Christian or practicing at a high level of devotion and “attitude”, not praying before training meetings, and not standing for the Christian pageantry at Xmas parties designed to please the fundamentalists and intimidate the rest of us. One of the reasons I left before retirement was because I couldn’t stand what the officers were doing to the Army I loved. The executive mindset ( a course away from leadership) of the officer corps combined with a fundamentalist attitude makes existing in it as a non believer horrible and one of the reasons our military is becoming a very broken machine. The new officer corps has neutered the NCO corps and they have placed ‘yes men’ as their way of keeping the troops in line and not questioning.
This new Army sure is a hell of an effective inquisition and Crusading tool though.

Errrrr, zionists, the ones that put the Star of David on army tanks. Not socialist Bundas.

BINGO!

We knew exactly what you meant. Perfect.

…which is *exactly* why they drum up the Muslims-are-terrorist hysteria. “Look! Over there! A bright shiny gun-toting religious nut!” Meanwhile, they’ve been infiltrating everything from the armed forces to the police to all three branches of the government at all levels. And most people don’t really care as they are either Christian themselves or well, just don’t care because they figure it’s out of their hands. The country has already been lost, it just hasn’t been made official quite yet.

I am almost ashamed to say that I’ve never heard that one before and I spent way too many winters in MN and WI.

The point goes to TheDevilCanDance.

I seem to recall the story at ABC News about Biblical inscriptions on military weapons: http://bit.ly/8X0xOY

Are they going to try to now sell this story about the evangelical concert as an anomaly? That bird ain’t gonna fly.

what the fuck happened to seperation of superstition and state? this is fucking scary, our country has been hijacked by christo-fascist zombies! the founding fathers are rolling in their graves!!! todays christians pray for blood and corporate profits, jesus must be puking in heaven watching his teachings turned on there heads for money and power, this is absolutly time for a new revolution, stop paying your taxes until we are represented once again!!! crazy fucking country!!!!

That’s the GOP SOP… Step one: Utter or perform the outrage. Step two: when called out on it, misdirect, deny, blame others. Step three: Let it die down for a few news cycles. Step four: Repeat.
The seeds therefore are constantly planted. While common sense and careful analysis is ongoing, it cannot compete against the kudzu.

That’s the GOP SOP… Step one: Utter or perform the outrage. Step two: when called out on it, misdirect, deny, blame others. Step three: Let it die down for a few news cycles. Step four: Repeat.
The seeds therefore are constantly planted. While common sense and careful analysis is ongoing, it cannot compete against the kudzu.

TDCD was never in the “closet”…you might want to make a note of that for future reference…you might also want to jot down that “Gerbil-Man” is “Gerbil-Woman”…2 “fails” in a 9 word sentence!…keep up the good work Chip!..

look out jews, the christians are creeping up on you as the most revolting,decietfull, bloodthirsty,hypocrits in the world of superstitious sociopaths! better launch a few cruise missiles into a palestinian apartment complex to keep your street cred! the christian flesh eating zombies are making you pussies look soft!

Hey guys….. Hint, hint, good way to get out of the Army…. tell them they can stick their Geebus up their asses!!!!!

Fascism has many forms, but all are totalitarian in intent.

And the strange thing is that those who foster fascism usually never realize what they are fostering.

From what I’ve read in the New Testament, Jesus Christ was as far away from being a fascist as one can get, whether in a political, economic, religious or personal sense.

I could quote chapter and verse, but the one that stands out for me is when Jesus said, “What profits a man, though he gain the whole world, yet loses his soul?” Fascists, in whatever form, do seem to keep trying to “gain the whole world,” don’t they? Or maybe it’s control over a country that is desired by the fascist, like a liberal democracy, trying to force everyone to conform to their fascist worldview? Or maybe a country’s military, as in our liberal democracy’s pluralistic one, with some religious fascists trying to convert everyone to their religious fascist view, while falsely claiming that they are followers of Jesus Christ?

Good point. The captain might have crossed the line in making it mandatory, but the real offense was in the General’s sponsorship of the event. With the military controlling everything a soldier is exposed to, a person’s spiritual development is still a matter of personal choice.

This crap starts with an all-volunteer military. Of course you’re going to get a disproportionate number of dingbats. Universal service would provide a complete cross-section of viewpoints and beliefs, and help unite us once again.

This is one of many examples of how the 2003 included Religion. Many soldiers of other faiths are ordered to become Christians and drop their own faith. The illegal invasion of Iraq included US Christian groups teaching Christian Religion to Muslims children by paying the parents money. I’ve lived long enough to see many results of those who mess with God.

Reason 7000 for banning religion

It’s 100% true that the US military is a Christian organization, run by zealots on a crusade. It’s time to arrest them,and banish them to the insane asylums where insane and dangerous people belong. Prove your skydaddy or take your Thorazine

My brother’s ship had sermons read over the loudspeaker, they were told that they would be fired if Al Gore won the election (The Navy was signifigantly under manpower allocation) and votes were illegally collected after election day (with aforementioned threats repeated) during the 2000 election. That’s why there was that mysterious push for the absentee ballots, they were stuffing the box overseas. Because of the reasons you cited, he refused to say anything, but his officers should hav been arrested, horsewhipped and jailed. Thats probably good for a few decades in Leavenworth

A Christian Dominionist controlled army is a dangerous thing. Even a general Christian fundie army is dangerous to us all.

I just thought you were nice!

With your “sharp” wits why don’t you put in for “Ministry for People’s Enlightenment and Propaganda” at FAUX NEWS” compound.

No shit.

“Christian”?

The same type of thing is happening at the Air Force Academy. The command structure and the chaplains are trying to force the cadets to become Christian fundamentalists. The ones protesting are, as here, Catholics, Muslims, atheists, and supporters of the Constitution who know the Constitution requires separation of church and state. When you link state power, particularly military, and religion you end up with religious wars and the Inquisition–only a protestant fundamentalist inquisition rather than a Catholic one. Indeed, Catholics, other protestants, Muslims and Jews would be victims as would atheists. It is indeed dangerous.

As an army brat, I couldn’t agree more. You need a bunch of cranky, dissatisfied, soldiers not ones in lock step. Following orders does not mean group think and good order does not require group think.

Licking a barrack toilet clean would taste better than listening to christian music.

Robert Heinlein has a science fiction novel with this theme–with a twist. The Christian fundamentalists take over the country and install a theocracy. Deep in the missile silos a group of military men link together to overthrow the theocracy and restore the Constitution. He’d be horrified to see the military used to impose the theocracy. I think the book is Revolt in 2100.

Was the captain ordered to clean up the barracks?

Thought not.

11th Commandment: Keep thy religion to thyself.

Is it possible that the America Military thinks it is in a holy war in the Middle East.. If God was on anybody’s side, would there really be a need for war. Eisenhower did warn us about the military industrial complex in he ’50′s.

Don’t be ashamed my son… The Devil forgives you :)

Yes you are right, I should try :)

DONT!!!…you will cause irreversible damage to the time space continuum!!!…you will destroy us all!….

denny!! (slap, slap)…denny!…DONT GO INTO THE LIGHT!..

I am not even mentioning what I will do to your dog……

colorado sprigs should be devoid of all millatery.

Although most, eh, really, all my replies on Raw Story comments, are based on my current thoughts, feelings. Yet this one, I must respond on direct experience.

Fact:

I am an Air Force vet
I am an atheist
At basic training, I served as a chapel guide.
On active duty, I’ve attended religious ceremonies, as ordered, specifically in honor of POWs.

I had no complaints about any of this.

I played the game, but I also signed a contract.

Reasons:

Let me hit each…

Air Force – my dad was career Navy, so I rebelled
Atheist – just who I am
Basic training – sure, got me out of cleaning the barracks on a Sunday, but enjoyed greeting new recruits with a smile and a positive attitude,
Active duty – selected from my flight to attend religious, ceremonial stuff in honor of POWs; I didn’t have to pray. Just be there for support and remembrance.

I fully support you speaking up in defense of your personal beliefs. I fully respect each of you for your convictions.

Yet! Now I hit you with the fucking hammer!

You will not change anything in the military, at least not for the foreseeable future.

Fulfill your military contract, move on, and advocate for change from without. From within, not so easy.

Why?

Let’s rephrase your comment.

It is not the military, but military command, thus our society that grants military command powers.

Most who enlists do so to escape impoverished conditions, to seek something better than their current circumstances. Flip burgers or serve your country.

Do you know how much these people are paid, soldiers who are tasked to kill and die?

Yes, to kill and die. I was Air Force, and on my first day of basic, I was told specifically that my job, no matter what I actually did, was to kill the enemy, or die. (not something you hear much about AF training.)

Yet, for those who are dedicated to defend and protect…

Are compensated at, basically. minimum wage.

“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross.” H.L. Mencken

Truer words never spoken.

Christian Dominionists have deliberately infiltrated the armed services with the specific intent of forcing proselytizing their tiny branch of extremist propaganda onto all other serving personnel and subverting authority to serve the cult..

It is past time for us to understand that this is not a quaint peculiarity, but a dangerous cult with no loyalty to the US or to its people…its member’s loyalty is to the church…and theoretically to ‘God’ as defined by whatever fatwahs are issues by their pastors. They violate their oath of service and the Uniform Code of Military Justice daily…they are guilty of high treason and should be treated accordingly…

…but the delusional nature of America’s fondness for religious ‘freedom’ means that we will treat even betrayal and treason as if were some cute quirky little thing like magic underwear for the Mormons or Lent for Catholics.

This isn’t a cute quirk…this is plotted armed rebellion, deliberate subversion and forced participation in cult events. Arrest them…because they are already at war…with everyone outside the cult…but because we believe in ‘tolerance’ we make intellectual excuses and treat it as something other than spiritual warfare.

Fight back…and fight hard…because we’re the enemy even if we don’t realize it yet…but our ignorance of that will not protect us from them when they come.

They are called by several names: “The Family”, The “Brotherhood”.
Read Jeff Sharlet’s book, “The Family”. You’ll forget about terrorists, and understand the true enemy facing this country.

Know them well…and was aware of them 25 years ago..and I’m damn glad more people know about them now than did back then.

With a gospel that implies directly that “if God has given you power, anything you do becomes the will of God by default” …is it any wonder that we look in shock at neo-cons committing acts so criminal that they defy sanity or explanation…until we realize that they believe themselves to be absolved of wrongdoing by the will of Heaven?

Keep up the good fight!

VocMagi,

Tea party?

I’m sorry, but when I read your words, I thought “tea party.”

Not the same words, but the same attitude.

“Christian Dominionists have deliberately infiltrated the armed services with the specific intent of forcing proselytizing their tiny branch of extremist propaganda onto all other serving personnel and subverting authority to serve the cult..”

I’m sorry, but I still see those who enter military service, especially as enlisted, are those individuals seeking to gain more than they can gain from their normal lives.

Jobs are not coming easy these days.

Our armed forces depend on the destitute, mostly those who are seeking something better than their small-town lives.

Military, teachers, two occupations that defend and instruct our children. Yet, they are also the most under paid of any professionals.

I respect your words, VocMagi, your passion, but what solutions do you offer?

Here are my proposed solutions to your words:

-Promote respect for different views, opinions and ideas within your community
-Respect, even though you might not agree with other opinions, for we are all individuals
-Identify with those who object, understand their perspectives, and know that they also have a voice that might be contrary, but a voice they do have
-Decide to be respectful of those that differ from your point of view
-Enjoy who you are. You are unique, a single one out of all of humanity

Keep up the comments! Our voices are never silent!

The people who take up military service are just as you say…they are often victims of circumstance who look for economic improvement…and they deserve our support…but understand that they are doubly victims in this…because they are helpless to safely resist these cultists without risking their careers and even their personal safety.

Follow the link for the Military Religious Freedom Foundation. You will learn what these kids are being subjected to…including violence when they resist indoctrination. The death threats for people who push to enforce already existing military rules designed to protect against predatory proselytizing.

I would promote respect…and I share the same values you do…

…but they are not bound by any such compunction. We are dealing with fanatics…each of whom will abuse even a small amount of authority to serve their church and god. When you are dealing with a fanatic who sees you as a fellow true believer or an infidel enemy, your options become limited. Our tolerance and gentleness becomes a weakness…which they understand and exploit to the fullest extent.

I enjoy my uniqueness…and if any one chooses to exercise theirs I would guard that right as dearly as my own…but when they cross the line into forcing others into subservience…it is war. Either you know its war and are ready to fight for your freedom to be different as well others…or you aren’t…and they will overwhelm you while you vacillate.

I wish it weren’t that bad…but it is.

In other words, military service is for masochists with no self esteem.

You must have really enjoyed it if you had no complaints.

Perhaps you learn to clench less and let them push it in harder.

This is nothing new. When I was in Basic Training in 1965 I was repeatedly confined to the barracks and forced to clean latrines during “religious services” that were attended by all the other members of my company. I claimed “no religion,” and the “authorities” simply hated it – I guess they wanted us to “have religion” when we went to slaughter entire communities of farmers and fishermen who had no interest in anything but survival. No one dared notice, back in those days, the onslaught of the new, fascist Amerikkka…

“Instead of being released to our personal time, we were locked down,” Smith said. “It seemed very much like a punishment.”

That’s the way it is, private. A good (hypo)Christian concert will feel like punishment.

Cleaning your barracks isn’t a bad alternative – cleanliness IS next to Godliness!

The man is basically A CANINE, and you can’t live to be a beastly canine, then you have to be punished one way or another. You have to be Euro-American white person to have equal rights and religious freedom.
HITLER ANNOUNCED WHAT HE CLAIMED, BUT THE HYOCRICY DOES NOT WANT TO SAY WHAT THEY PRACTICE! It was lack of Hypocricy that made Hitler so bad. If he committed GENOCIDE of Indians, Africans, Original Americans, Arabs or far-Eastern races, he will be adorned and given the title of “SIR” by Brittish and “SAINT” by the poop, as in the cases of Warrne Hastings, Robert Clive or queen Isabella etc!

I have yet to meet a christian who was not ignorant, stupid, or willfully igorant. I’m only 66, and I have yet to meet a clergyperson who was not a pervert, a con-artist, or a social misfit.

I hate nazism, pedophilia, injustice, poverty and all religions, and all for the same reasons.

Well, at least an Article 32 board …

Good training for fighting the fundamentalists here is to go over there first.

I am a Jew; I thrive without rules. I hate anarchy!

Just like Extreme Islam, Extreme Christianity and Extreme Judaism, gotta make them soldiers believe the are doing the killing in the name of God, right?
Wait until Sunday is a state mandated “Sabbath” and civilians are beaten killed and jailed for not observing the Holy Day.
If the Neo-Cons and the Televangelist have it their way, it’s not far off.

I am 77 years old, served 1950-1954, two years in combat zone and never saw a chaplain. Home at Yuma A.F.B., 110 F. in the shade, a “chaplain” closed the base movie theater for a week for a “revival.” I met him later on the dunes and refused to salute him. I usually saluted any human officer detritus He chased me over the sand. I won. He used to come into our barracks with Moody Bible Institute B.S, I always hoped to meet him off base to stuff his tracks up his A**. I see that it’s samo samo nowadays. Hope the worms enjoy his xtian meat!!!!

P.S. The bible make excellent toilet paper in a pinch. Better than Time magazine: Overseas edition.

P.P.S. DD 214 available upon request

P.P.P.S. Thanks Mark Twain and Robert G. Ingersoll. You’ve fought the Good Fight!

Funny, I’m only 53, but I haven’t met anybody that wasn’t a little bit of all of those. Have you? I’ll cop — I’m all of ‘em at one time or another, depending on the subject.

Sometimes I think our only distinguishing and lasting advantage over conservatives is our propensity for introspection. The stoicism borne from the inability to question one’s self is a common thread through injustice, poverty, religion, and conservatism, and will be the conservatives’ undoing in the end.

They define themselves as the dinosaurs; they’re proud of it. Their extinction is inevitable, hence their current panic.

Well, thank you for your service; you’ve served us in ways well beyond your humiliating physical duties. Now, finally, perhaps something will come of it.

Well, thank you for your service; you’ve served us in ways well beyond your humiliating physical duties. Now, finally, perhaps something will come of it.

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Love the name! A great alternative to Freedom Fries!

Thank you, TM. That’s something most vets from that era haven’t heard much of :-)))

Fort EUSTIS Even Uncle Sam Thinks It Sucks

The Air Force is over the top with their ” onward christian soldier ” mindset . The crusader mentality pervades our military . Monty reminded us that ” no one expected the Spanish Inquisition ! ” , let’s hope we don’t see an American one .

When the emporer of Rome converted to Christianity he turned Christianity into a state religion. As a result 23,000 Romans who refused to convert to Chrisitanity were slaughtered in the streets. This is the birth of Christianity.

From that point on the Christians rewrote history to make it look like they were persecuted. The rewrote history to cover the blood on their hands.

There is still room under the rock from which you crawled. Return! Now!

Alright wiseass! What’s the difference?

Under judism we march willingly and complacently off to our Zykln-B showers and with Zionism we fight back????

Yeah!!!!!!
That was good!

What’s the matter, you can’t handle the truth. It’s Limber-JOCKS like you that attack the messenger when you can’t SUPPORT(ha ha ha) your own point of view.

Same problem, except that it was 16 hours of KP.

No, it didn’t start with the all-volunteer army. As noted above, this drafted atheist used to end up with 16 hours of KP for refusing to attend religious services until I ended up at a technical post.

All we need is some Ketchup. ;)

I propose the following Constitution Amendment

The new amendment of the Constitution says the United States is now a Secular Nation. Any and all references to any religion or the bible or the 10 commandments are to be removed from all government buildings. There will be no praying or religious services of any kind on any government property. There will be no religion taught in any public or government schools and “intelligent design” will not be taught, only scientific facts. There will be no invocations at any government meetings at any level. No religious icons are allowed in any branch of the government. The national day of prayer will be abolished; “in god we trust” will be removed from all currency and “under god” will be removed from the pledge of allegiance. This amendment clarifies once and for all that there is 100% separation of State and church. There are no exceptions. The United States government is not a Christian Nation and this amendment states the government is not in the business of religion and is and will remain 100% secular.

Join us at the Freedom From Religion Foundation http://www.ffrf.org

In many cities, Sunday WAS mandated to be the Sabbath and at least commercial activity was forbidden. While hospitals could be open, for example, no stores could. This was at least into the early 1950s. This was especially hard on religious Jews who were forbidden to work on Saturday.

This was fairly universal, especially in the South, but as things changed it grew into a patchwork of rules.

I remember one large store which was on the border between Miami and El Portal. Miami still had and enforced the law. So the owners who wanted to operate on Sunday soon figured out that they could open and only do business, ie collect money at the back door register. People could exit the back door into El Portal, a small separate town.

The publicity surrounding this “brazen behavior” helped get the law thrown out in Miami.

I don’t have a problem with your speaking freely. I just have a problem with you. So … I leave the message alone. That’s free speech. It’s the racist commie fascist henchman I am picking a fight with. I’m gonna pick on you till your scabs are sore and your sore scabs have sores on them. You are my project. I’m gonna find every note you post and be right there behind it with a pointed and polite personal attaque.

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A civilian commander-in-chief (George W. Bush) got our military into this religious mess, so a patriotic American citizen (like myself, who served in the U.S. military during the Vietnam War) would expect that his successor as civilian commander-in-chief (Barack Obama) would clean up the religious mess in our military left him by his arch-conservative predecessor.

Except there is one problem.

President Obama keeps being falsely accused of being a Muslim, although he is a Christian, thus making it near impossible (based on this right-wing lie) for him to crack down on the fundamentalist “Christian” military commanders, court-martialing them for violating their solemn oath to protect and defend the U.S. Constitution, which guarantees the separation of church and state (or church and the military), like I experienced almost 40 years ago when U.S. commanders actually honored their oath and didn’t try to force their religious beliefs on anyone.

The Pentagon chiefs could crack down on these religious fanatic anti-Constitution commanders, maybe court-martialing a few of them to set an example, but then these “Christian” commanders would show up on Faux News screaming that they were discriminated against on orders of President Obama, the “Muslim.” Of course, there are still a whole lot of U.S. military personnel, both officers and enlisted, who don’t ram their religion down the throats of those serving alongside them, but it is the few bad apples that make the most noise.

So, President Obama is cornered again…damned if he does anything, damned if he doesn’t…and all because right-wingers resorted to spreading another lie based on hatred. Right-wingers malign ACORN falsey. They malign Shirley Sherrod falsely. They malign President Obama falsely. They malign the Sufi imam of the proposed cultural center in NYC falsely.

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Hearing these things makes me so angry. I’m, a vet, I’m as patriotic as they come, and even sort of religious. Back when I served, something like this would have earned the commander punishment, not the troops, and rightfully so.

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For a short time, I was a Chaplain’s Assistant at Ft. Bragg. This would have made my Chaplain (an Episcopal priest) ill.

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When Wiccan Chaplins are allowed or those who are: Heathan (Norse faith), Druid. Then fairness and equality might see the light of day. The above groups are mentioned and defined in the Chaplin’s Handbook but that is as far as it goes.

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