Nah, people are too stupid to do something so eminently sensible.

One more reason to vote Feinstein out of office.

Could you end the Mexican drug war by making alcohol illegal?
I just thought that maybe Mexico couldn’t transport all that booze to the US
and, like during Prohibition, Canada would have to suppy it.
I would prefer a Canadian alcohol war.

If legalized, watch for the tobacco industry or its equivalent to start saturating marijuana with poisonous additives, just like they did with tobacco.

Something thoughtful, worthwhile and productive that might make a difference…???

…Prop 19 is doomed…nothing that good would make it into law.

This is a must pass proposition. Its long past time to show the legislators who they really represent and what we the people actually want.

Diane “War Profiteer” Feinstein needs to be voted out of office yesterday…

It’ll be interesting to see if this passes. In principle, there’s a lot to be said for this initiative. The potential economic impact on California of losing federal contracts could be a tremendous blow to the state economy, though. If the measure does pass, it probably won’t be long before there’s a Pot Tax to help prop up the state’s depleted coffers.

My worries exactly. Cigarettes would be significantly less harmful if they were just tobacco leaves wrapped in paper…

The private prison corporations will be spending millions to defeat legalization of pot, because it would be really bad for their business. Also the giant liquor lobbies, like Seagram’s, until they can figure out how to get in on the action.

“”America’s policy for almost 70 years has been to keep marijuana … confined to the illicit market, meaning we’ve given criminals a virtual monopoly on something that US researcher Jon Gettman estimates is a $36 billion a year industry, greater than corn and wheat combined,” Johnson wrote.”

AND THAT’S ONLY FOR GETTING HIGH! There are 25,999 other uses for hemp. Half the trees destroyed every year go to make paper pulp. Legal hemp means saving half the trees destroyed every year! If that’s not enough, you mess up the core of the drug economy, from the DEA and Pentagon and their Banks, and trickling all the way down to their minions, the cartels.

A great idea never dies. Legalized hemp will be transformative. California should and can take the lead. It was passed in the state legislature and Terminator vetoed it in 2006, and 07 — who made it happen? The DEA, FBI, Prison and Law Enforcement, Inc.

Jerry — we need you now more than ever. Let’s turn this state around. Send a message to the world. To change the world, we need a starting point. Hemp is the Grandmother and Grandfather of all green tech; it made bags 10,000 years ago. Today, it will save half of all trees destroyed this year and every year if we do nothing. Legalize hemp, put it to work in the Central Valley, and watch a wave cross a starving nation just itching to put it to work, in medicines, plastics, insulation, bricks, clothing, oils, fuels, fenders, on and on. Let’s be first in hemp innovations. And let’s be the First State to Outlaw GMOs!

Go Jerry! More than Ever!!!

“”America’s policy for almost 70 years has been to keep marijuana … confined to the illicit market, meaning we’ve given criminals a virtual monopoly on something that US researcher Jon Gettman estimates is a $36 billion a year industry, greater than corn and wheat combined,” Johnson wrote.”

AND THAT’S ONLY FOR GETTING HIGH! There are 25,999 other uses for hemp. Half the trees destroyed every year go to make paper pulp. Legal hemp means saving half the trees destroyed every year! If that’s not enough, you mess up the core of the drug economy, from the DEA and Pentagon and their Banks, and trickling all the way down to their minions, the cartels.

A great idea never dies. Legalized hemp will be transformative. California should and can take the lead. It was passed in the state legislature and Terminator vetoed it in 2006, and 07 — who made it happen? The DEA, FBI, Prison and Law Enforcement, Inc.

Jerry — we need you now more than ever. Let’s turn this state around. Send a message to the world. To change the world, we need a starting point. Hemp is the Grandmother and Grandfather of all green tech; it made bags 10,000 years ago. Today, it will save half of all trees destroyed this year and every year if we do nothing. Legalize hemp, put it to work in the Central Valley, and watch a wave cross a starving nation just itching to put it to work, in medicines, plastics, insulation, bricks, clothing, oils, fuels, fenders, on and on. Let’s be first in hemp innovations. And let’s be the First State to Outlaw GMOs!

Go Jerry! More than Ever!!!

If Prop 19 passes, you’ll have 3 fascinating new border wars between California and Arizona, Nevada and Oregon. Interstate traffic will come to a standstill as cops are forced to check every vehicle coming out of California for pot.

i wonder how many companies “fighting” the “drug war” are owned by or has investments in by the protesting diane frankenstein

“The legalization of marijuana has been attempted before and it failed horribly. In 1975 personal possession in Alaska was allowed by the Alaska Supreme Court for adults at least 19 years old. Studies showed that marijuana use among 12- to 17-year-old children doubled. In 1990 the residents of Alaska demonstrated their frustration by voting to “recriminalize” personal possession of marijuana. ”

The University of Anchorage study that showed the increase in use in children has never been fully released – the research methods are to date, unknown, and therefore cannot hold up to peer review.

However, the Alaskan Dept. of Health and Social Services did a teen risk survey over the last 15 years to determine things like drug use. The survey clearly shows that in 1995, when marijuana was still criminalized, 48.4% of Alaskan students had tried marijuana at least once. In 2003 when four ounces was again legal, usage dropped to 47.5%. By 2006 when one ounce was legal, usage dropped to 44.7%(page 42). For monthly use, the 1995 figure is 28.7%, which drops to 23.9% in 2003 and 20.5% in 2006 (page 44).

hss.state.ak.us/dph/chronic/sc hool/pubs/YRBS_AK_MULTIYEAR.pdf

Drug dealers do not check ID. Legal businesses will. Youth report it’s easier to get Marijuana than beer, for the very reason of age verification. Lets put the profits for Marijuana back in the hands of American businesses and help reduce the amount of teens using.

Whoops, the link to the Alaskan Teen Risk Survey should be:

hss.state.ak.us/dph/chronic/school/pubs/YRBS_AK_MULTIYEAR.pdf

California pot legalization ‘could end Mexican drug war’

yes, much like the end of prohibition ended the mobs slaying for booze profits this is nothing new we’ve been saying this for years

This will be a test of the hypnotic powers of Corporate Television has over the Floride Saturated Poop, and Middle Class.

This will be a test of the hypnotic powers of Corporate Television has over the Floride Saturated Poor, and Middle Class.

cops can check anyone, any car, anytime they want to now anyway. You can take it to court and fight it, doesn’t mean jack cause they’re still gonna stop ya, harass ya, check ya out when they want to. laws don’t matter, wake up.

that’s when you grow your own .

They’re not “forced’ to do anything. If visionary law enforcement strategists chose to not give a shit and spend their scarce resource fighting real crime, it’d be a win-win all around.

And who knows, maybe it’ll go as it’s going with gay marriage: once one state grows the balls to do the right thing and the apocalypse fails to materialize as the fear mongers predicted, other states may realize that they should get with the program…

DiFi joins Sir Change-a-Lot in epic fail with their pathetic refusal to even consider an alternative to the embarrassing “war on drugs.” Geez, is there a pointless, unwinable war those clowns aren’t hell-bent on fighting? Hopefully she’ll soon be out of business, replaced by someone less out of touch with the realities on the ground.

Yeah…BUT, we can do our own farming.

My old friend Bill once gave me a T-shirt that read, “Ignorance is no excuse for the law,” … and so it goes. The prohibition industry and their political friends are getting nervous, to them legalization, especially of pot, is unimaginable and you can bet this is going to get much, much uglier before November… Just remember those lawmakers that insult your rights and intelligence… and send them packing… or else we’ll end up just like Mexico and there really will be” beheadings in the desert.”

What propaganda this is -
California pot legalization ‘could end Mexican drug war’

No one buys Mexican marijuana any more. California and north up to Canada grows the best weed. If anything we are exporting it to Mexico.

While I doubt passing prop 19 would “end” Mexico’s drug war, there’s still going to be the other drugs and all the other evil deeds the cartels are involved in… Nonetheless, it would have a substantial impact and pave the way for normalizing all our drug laws.

Big Pharma and the privatized prisons will never allow such freedom.

Please help build the Roller~Poster Marijuana folder

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Duh.

A NS,S moment.

Legalized pot would vaporize profits for drug runners.

And the politicians they sponsor.

It’s a safe bet that those squealing loudest against 19 have the most to lose.

Sadly, all major candidates for CA are against this bill. I support Prop.19 and hope it passes. I will surely be voting for it. The only one’s who are against this bill are those who profit from its continued illegality… the pharma industry, law enforcement, and the drug cartels.

you are completely wrong.
mexican nationals are flooding our national forests in california with illegal grow operations. they know how to pull the males to prevent seeds and are getting way higher quality bud than a decade or so ago. it is just plain stupid to think we are exporting weed to mexico.

marijuana funds cartel operations. taking the black market out of their hands would essentially kill their funding. legalization could also end violence in ghettos of america by stomping out a need to fight for turf, or areas of sales.

Fake War on Drugz™ = FAIL!

ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!!!

The gun manufacturers would lose a lot of money too.
Less money to pay for NRA lobbyists.
There are many good reasons I can see.

The Jotted Line

Alcohol is regulated, taxed and controlled.

Why not marijuana?

Make 500 labels with the above message and place them on gas pumps, ATM marchines
etc.

Alcohol is regulated, taxed and controlled.

Why not marijuana?

Make 500 labels with the above message and place them on gas pumps, ATM marchines
etc.

When I was a kid in the 50s the scare tactic was you smoke weed, heroin is next. Well, most of the people who were smoking pot in the 50s and 60s did not to turn to shooting up. Why there is prohibition on any recreational drug is rediculous. It would end a lot of crime. It would bring revenue in the taxes that it would bring in. It’s less dangerous than booze and the time is now to end regulation on pot.

I agree, certainly pot is no more harmful than legalized alcohol so it’s long overdue to legalize and regulate them out from the iron hands of organized crime.

Why? Because the government is profiting from both ends. Ever notice how alll our wars are either in oil zones or Opium zones? Many have no clue that the so called evil Taliban destroyed over 95% of the Opium crop prior to our invasion. They did so because the KNOW that the heroin trade supports our CIA’s black ops around the world. It is a fact the the government has been implicated more than any other entity in the drug war. Unfortunately a double standard and the corrupt courts just give them a pass.
Government expansionism demands more laws like that which the war on drugs allowed to be enacted as well as our new war on terror which was provoked (an inside job in my opinion) by the attacks of September 11, 2001. More laws, more need for government. What a racket!

Prop 19 is a start – but drug cartels will still have coke, meth, and heroin to profit from.

Good reason to vote for candidates other than the major ones.

Good reason to vote for candidates other than the major ones.

Decriminalize drugs. Anyone sickened by drugs should be denied medical treatment at the expense of the state, they should pay for it on their own. Anyone not able to earn a living that takes drugs should be denied help from the state. It is their body. Let them do with it as they wish. It is their business until they bother someone else. People should arm themselves with legal weapons and should be allowed to use them on drug addicts who harass or bother them.

Excellent, couldn’t have said it better

Hi neagles,
Remember, even as big as cali is, it’s only one state and there will still be a black-market for the under 21 crowd (a big problem with prop 19, imho). There will also still be billions to be made with cocaine, heroin and meth. Not to mention the kidnapping, human trafficking and assorted other despicable, anti-social ventures run by cartels…

Why do we have such a freedom-hating prohibition in the first place? Follow the money: Big Alcohol certainly likes it; wouldn’t want to have to compete against an alternative drug, now would they? Corrupt lawmakers and their fat cat “donors” like it; gives them a good devisive issue to distract from real issues and their crimes of the day. Most religious leaders like it; certainly wouldn’t benefit them for the flock to start free-thinking, now would it? And of course the Military-Industrial complex loves it; all those overseas and cross border operations they perform to secure resources for the benefit of Wall Street wouldn’t be nearly as acceptable if they lost their cover as fighting the never-ending “war on drugs.”

What California voters do is their business, but I haven’t bought Casteñeda and Aguilar’s argument for the simple reason that this also depends on both replacing the lost income to the Mexican rural economy AND the assumption that gangsters are suddenly going to give up their trade in favor of something else. The first is unlikely to happen (more likely is that the United States USDA would find some rationale to limit Mexican imports, as they have with crops like avocados — which limit sales to U.S. owned distributors). As to the second, there is still truck highjacking (already on the increase here in Sinaloa, where I live), kidnapping, people smuggling, bank robbery… etc.

And, just for a kicker, even those not involved in the Sinaloa marijuana industry are — like it or not — profiting from it. Where else are we going to get venture capital other than from the profits generated by the insatiable U.S. appetite for narcotics? I suppose the marijuana farmers can switch to poppy farming, which also has its market north of the border.

What California voters do is their business, but I haven’t bought Casteñeda and Aguilar’s argument for the simple reason that this also depends on both replacing the lost income to the Mexican rural economy AND the assumption that gangsters are suddenly going to give up their trade in favor of something else. The first is unlikely to happen (more likely is that the United States USDA would find some rationale to limit Mexican imports, as they have with crops like avocados — which limit sales to U.S. owned distributors). As to the second, there is still truck highjacking (already on the increase here in Sinaloa, where I live), kidnapping, people smuggling, bank robbery… etc.

And, just for a kicker, even those not involved in the Sinaloa marijuana industry are — like it or not — profiting from it. Where else are we going to get venture capital other than from the profits generated by the insatiable U.S. appetite for narcotics? I suppose the marijuana farmers can switch to poppy farming, which also has its market north of the border.

…”we’ve given criminals a virtual monopoly on something that US researcher Jon Gettman estimates is a $36 billion a year industry, greater than corn and wheat combined”

See that statement above which I clipped from the article is the REAL problem. Where is that $36 billion going right now?
I’ll tell you where it’s going, it’s lining the same pockets of the same people who buy our politicians. The corrupt bankers, business investors, law enforcement shills all make MUCH more money on illegal MJ than they would on legal MJ.

Same shit, different bowl. Follow the money, and you’ll find out why they don’t want it legalized. You don’t REALLY think illegal out of concern for our wellbeing do you? You’d have to be a tool to think that.

Yes. Alcohol addicts, caffeine addicts, Xanax, Prozac, Zoloft, and Zanac addics beware!

I’ve got news for California Police Chief Rodney G. Jones: 12- to 17-year-old children DRINK LIKE FISH AND SMOKE LIKE CHIMNEYS!!!!! Where are all the good, wholesome, decent, scared, white Christian voices, calling for the re-criminalization of alcohol and tobacco?

You forgot about the biggest fat-cats of all: Big Pharma. Certainly wouldn’t benefit them for their poison pills to be out-competed by something much better, something no one can ever patent.

You just used “visionary” and “law enforcement” in the same sentence. I think that’s grammatically incorrect.

Anyone sickened by alcohol should be denied medical treatment at the expense of the state, they should pay for it on their own. Anyone not able to earn a living that consumes alcohol should be denied help from the state. It is their body. Let them do with it as they wish. It is their business until they bother someone else. People should arm themselves with legal weapons and should be allowed to use them on alcoholics who harass or bother them.

Regardless drug market impacts, let’s not loose sight of an even bigger factor. Prop 19 will help restore individual freedom, along with respect for the rule of law.

http://greenfloyd.site90.com/_roller.readerX.php

Regardless drug market impacts, let’s not loose sight of an even bigger factor. Prop 19 will help restore individual freedom, along with respect for the rule of law.

http://greenfloyd.site90.com/_roller.readerX.php

Regardless drug market impacts, let’s not loose sight of an even bigger factor. Prop 19 will help restore individual freedom, along with respect for the rule of law.

http://greenfloyd.site90.com/_roller.readerX.php

Regardless drug market impacts, let’s not loose sight of an even bigger factor. Prop 19 will help restore individual freedom, along with respect for the rule of law.

http://greenfloyd.site90.com/_roller.readerX.php

Regardless drug market impacts, let’s not loose sight of an even bigger factor. Prop 19 will help restore individual freedom, along with respect for the rule of law.

http://greenfloyd.site90.com/_roller.readerX.php

Regardless drug market impacts, let’s not loose sight of an even bigger factor. Prop 19 will help restore individual freedom, along with respect for the rule of law.

http://greenfloyd.site90.com/_roller.readerX.php

Regardless drug market impacts, let’s not loose sight of an even bigger factor. Prop 19 will help restore individual freedom, along with respect for the rule of law.

http://greenfloyd.site90.com/_roller.readerX.php

Regardless drug market impacts, let’s not loose sight of an even bigger factor. Prop 19 will help restore individual freedom, along with respect for the rule of law.

http://greenfloyd.site90.com/_roller.readerX.php

Regardless drug market impacts, let’s not loose sight of an even bigger factor. Prop 19 will help restore individual freedom, along with respect for the rule of law.

http://greenfloyd.site90.com/_roller.readerX.php

Regardless drug market impacts, let’s not loose sight of an even bigger factor. Prop 19 will help restore individual freedom, along with respect for the rule of law.

http://greenfloyd.site90.com/_roller.readerX.php

Regardless drug market impacts, let’s not loose sight of an even bigger factor. Prop 19 will help restore individual freedom, along with respect for the rule of law.

http://greenfloyd.site90.com/_roller.readerX.php

No, if the US makes it legal, not just Cal. But I say no pot legal, stop selling alcohol

No, if the US makes it legal, not just Cal. But I say no pot legal, stop selling alcohol

Mexico is just mad because their weed is shit. NorCal has got the OG Kush.

Lets not get too excited, they can still fire you for failing a drug test

So what happened when alcohol Prohibition was repealed in this country? Did organized crime continue to sell booze? Of course not! Legal businesses resumed making it and selling it. If pot were legalized, legitimate American growers, distributors and importers would take over the business. The real flaw in the argument might be, however, that drug cartels would simply switch from marijuana to the harder stuff – heroin, cocaine, etc. Perhaps we should legalize all drugs and refocus our approach to treatment instead of imprisonment and stop wasting law enforcement resources on what is really a physical, mental and spiritual health problem.

Keep your slogans short, especially for bumper stickers. Perhaps: “Booze is legal, why not pot?”

what does fluoride have to do with it?

You are an ignorant fool. You have no idea about the many benefits of marijuana and simply believe the bullshit you have been fed about it. The thought that you can both breed and vote scares the sh_t out of me.

**Feinstien is past her prime.

Yup, the CIA is the biggest importer of cocaine, has been since Ollie North started it.

My issue with this is that marijuana has been shown to increase the risk of cancer by 1%. Marijuana is MUCH safer than alcohol, and medically beneficial.

15 million?? Bullshit. Gary must not know many kids( 17 -57)

Legalize it!!!!!! No worse than booze!!!1

You are out of touch John.That last statement to use weapons on the drug addicts,if they bother you.Who the hell are you to think your better in any way than those people.You bother me.

Tell Oliver North that the coke he’s bringing in sucks.There really hasen’t been any real cocaine around in a long while.This is why they turned to crack,its more effective.Buy the way,I do believe the blacks hold the market.

so many companys would lose out in so much if the magical weed was legalized..
they cant patent a plant so it will never make legal status..
but yet there making lab built cannabis without the plant as they can now clearly see medical benifits associated with it, no other stupid poison pill can even come close too ailling so much..
So much profit from tax could be made here that would help our [UK] hospitals schools etc etc..
here in northern ireland there closing mental hospitals like wildfire due to “funding” but yet there able to put millions£ into the daft stuff like titanic quarter [tourest spot] etc.
absolute @ssholes running our gov’s

Sure, your 1% increased cancer risk makes sense since marijuana has to be inhaled. However this is still no worse than the legalized tobacco industry.

If you want to know the truth about the Netherlands, then what better people to ask than The World Health Organization.

The WHO survey of 17 countries finds that the United States has the highest usage rates for nearly all illegal substances.

In the U.S. 42.4 percent admitted having used marijuana. The only other nation that came close was New Zealand, another bastion of get-tough policies, at 41.9 percent. No one else was even close. The results for cocaine use were similar, with the U.S. again leading the world by a large margin.

In the Netherlands, where adults are permitted to possess a small of marijuana and purchase it from regulated businesses, only 19.8 percent have used marijuana, less than half the U.S. figure.

Even more striking is what the researchers found when they asked young adults when they had started using marijuana. Again, the U.S. led the world, with 20.2 percent trying marijuana by age 15. No other country was even close, and in the Netherlands, just 7 percent used marijuana by 15 — roughly one-third of the U.S. figure.

thttp://www.alternet.org/drugs/90295/

Now let’s look at a comparative analysis of the levels of cannabis use in two cities: Amsterdam and San Francisco.

“The overall response rate of the San Francisco prevalence survey was 52.7%, which yielded a sample of 891.28 Of these respondents, 349 reported that they had used cannabis 25 or more times ( 39.2% of the population sample and 3 times the prevalence found in the Amsterdam sample) …”

Source: Craig Reinarman, Peter D.A. Cohen and Hendrien L. Kaal, “The Limited Relevance of Drug Policy: Cannabis in Amsterdam and in San Francisco”American Journal of Public Health May 2004,Vol 94, No. 5, 837.
http://www.mapinc.org/lib/limited.pdf

This means that cannabis use levels in the “punitive” San Francisco were 3 times higher than in the “liberal” Amsterdam

Moreover, 51% of people who had smoked cannabis in San Francisco reported that they were offered heroin, cocaine or amphetamine the last time they purchased cannabis. In contrast, only 15% of Amsterdam residents who had ingested marijuana reported the same conditions. “What also matters is not simply consumption levels, points out Dr. Wodak, but the harms caused by drugs and drug policies. The indicators of death, disease and corruption are much better in the Netherlands than in Sweden for instance, a country praised by UNODC for its “successful” drug policy.”

Here’s Antonio Maria Costa doing his level best to avoid discussing the success of Dutch drug policy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lExNjEhdSkY&feature=related

In the Netherlands 9.7% of young adults (aged 15–24) consume soft drugs once a month, comparable to the level in Italy (10.9%) and Germany (9.9%) and less than in the UK (15.8%) and Spain (16.4%). Few transcend to becoming problem drug users (0.44%), well below the average (0.52%) of the compared countries.

The Netherlands also provides heroin on prescription under tight regulation to about 1500 long-term heroin addicts for whom methadone maintenance treatment has failed.

The Dutch justice ministry announced, last year, the closure of eight prisons and cut 1,200 jobs in the prison system. A decline in crime has left many cells empty. There’s simply not enough criminals

http://www.nrc.nl/international/article2246821.ece/Netherlands_to_close_prisons_for_lack_of_criminals

Actually, the evidence tells us it’s far safer than alcohol:

1) In response to passage of California’s medical marijuana law, the White House had the Institute of Medicine (IOM) review the data on marijuana’s medical benefits and risks. The IOM concluded, “Nausea, appetite loss, pain and anxiety are all afflictions of wasting, and all can be mitigated by marijuana.” While noting potential risks of smoking, the report added, “we acknowledge that there is no clear alternative for people suffering from chronic conditions that might be relieved by smoking marijuana, such as pain or AIDS wasting.” The government’s refusal to acknowledge this finding caused co-author John A. Benson to tell the New York Times that the government “loves to ignore our report … they would rather it never happened.” Joy, JE, Watson, SJ, and Benson, JA. Marijuana and Medicine: Assessing the Science Base. National Academy Press. 1999. p. 159. See also, Harris, G. FDA Dismisses Medical Benefit From Marijuana. New York Times. Apr. 21, 2006

2) Donald Tashkin, a UCLA researcher whose work is funded by NIDA, did a case-control study comparing 1,200 patients with lung, head and neck cancers to a matched group with no cancer. Even the heaviest marijuana smokers had no increased risk of cancer, and had somewhat lower cancer risk than non-smokers (tobacco smokers had a 20-fold increased lung cancer risk). Tashkin D. Marijuana Use and Lung Cancer: Results of a Case-Control Study. American Thoracic Society International Conference. May 23, 2006.

3) Researchers at the Kaiser-Permanente HMO, funded by NIDA, followed 65,000 patients for nearly a decade, comparing cancer rates among non-smokers, tobacco smokers, and marijuana smokers. Tobacco smokers had massively higher rates of lung cancer and other cancers. Marijuana smokers who didn’t also use tobacco had no increase in risk of tobacco-related cancers or of cancer risk overall. In fact their rates of lung and most other cancers were slightly lower than non-smokers, though the difference did not reach statistical significance. Sidney, S. et al. Marijuana Use and Cancer Incidence (California, United States). Cancer Causes and Control. Vol. 8. Sept. 1997, p. 722-728.

4) In a 1994 study the government tried to suppress, federal researchers gave mice and rats massive doses of THC, looking for cancers or other signs of toxicity. The rodents given THC lived longer and had fewer cancers, “in a dose-dependent manner” (i.e. the more THC they got, the fewer tumors). NTP Technical Report On The Toxicology And Carcinogenesis Studies Of 1-Trans- Delta-9-Tetrahydrocannabinol, CAS No. 1972-08-3, In F344/N Rats And B6C3F Mice, Gavage Studies. See also, “Medical Marijuana: Unpublished Federal Study Found THC-Treated Rats Lived Longer, Had Less Cancer,” AIDS Treatment News no. 263, Jan. 17, 1997.

5) Federal researchers implanted several types of cancer, including leukemia and lung cancers, in mice, then treated them with cannabinoids (unique, active components found in marijuana). THC and other cannabinoids shrank tumors and increased the mice’s lifespans. Munson, AE et al. Antineoplastic Activity of Cannabinoids. Journal of the National Cancer Institute. Sept. 1975. p. 597-602.

Alcohol is a factor in the following

* 73% of all felonies * 73% of child beating cases * 41% of rape cases * 80% of wife battering cases * 72% of stabbings * 83% of homicides.

But you’re living in some strange parallel universe, if you think prohibition actually works. Here is part of the testimony of Judge Alfred J Talley, given before the Senate Hearings of 1926:

“For the first time in our history, full faith and confidence in and respect for the hitherto sacred Constitution of the United States has been weakened and impaired because this terrifying invasion of natural rights has been engrafted upon the fundamental law of our land, and experience has shown that it is being wantonly and derisively violated in every State, city, and hamlet in the country.”

“It has made potential drunkards of the youth of the land, not because intoxicating liquor appeals to their taste or disposition, but because it is a forbidden thing, and because it is forbidden makes an irresistible appeal to the unformed and immature. It has brought into our midst the intemperate woman, the most fearsome and menacing thing for the future of our national life.”

“It has brought the sickening slime of corruption, dishonor, and disgrace into every group of employees and officials in city, State, and Federal departments that have been charged with the enforcement of this odious law.”

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/HISTORY/e1920/senj1926/judgetalley.htm

And the following paragraphs are from WALTER E. EDGE’s testimony, a Senator from New Jersey:

“Any law that brings in its wake such wide corruption in the public service, increased alcoholic insanity, and deaths, increased arrests for drunkenness, home barrooms, and development among young boys and young women of the use of the flask never heard of before prohibition can not be successfully defended.”

“I unhesitatingly contend that those who recognize existing evils and sincerely endeavor to correct them are contributing more toward temperance than those who stubbornly refuse to admit the facts.”

“The opposition always proceeds on the theory that give them time and they will stop the habit of indulging in intoxicating beverages. This can not be accomplished. We should recognize our problem is not to persist in the impossible, but to recognize a situation and bring about common-sense temperance through reason.”

“This is not a campaign to bring back intoxicating liquor, as is so often claimed by the fanatical dry. Intoxicating liquor is with us to-day and practically as accessible as it ever was. The difference mainly because of its illegality, is its greater destructive power, as evidenced on every hand. The sincere advocates of prohibition welcome efforts for real temperance rather than a continuation of the present bluff.”

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/HISTORY/e1920/senj1926/walteredge.htm

And here is Julien Codman’s testimony, who was a member of the Massachusetts bar.

“we will produce additional evidence on this point, that it is not appropriate legislation to enforce the eighteenth amendment; that it has done incredible harm instead of good; that as a temperance measure it has been a pitiable failure; that it as failed to prevent drinking; that it has failed to decrease crime; that, as a matter of fact, it has increased both; that it has promoted bootlegging and smuggling to an extent never known before”

“We believe that the time has come for definite action, but it is impossible to lay before Congress any one bill which, while clearly within the provisions of the Constitution, will be a panacea for the evils that the Volstead Act has caused. We must not be vain enough to believe, as the prohibitionists do, that the age-old question of the regulation of alcohol can be settled forever by the passage of a single law. With the experience of the Volstead law as a warning, it behooves us to proceed with caution, one step at a time, to climb out of the legislative well into which we have been pushed.”

“If you gentlemen are satisfied, after hearing the evidence supplemented by the broad general knowledge which each of you already possesses, that the remedy that will tend most quickly to correct the wretched social conditions that now exist, to promote temperance, find to allay the discontent and unrest that the Volstead Act has caused, is to be found in the passage of one of the proposed bills legalizing the production of beer of an alcoholic content of 4 per cent or less, there is no doubt, in my opinion, elf your power to do so; and we believe that our evidence will show that the passage of such a bill will greatly help the situation. We do not claim that it will do away with all the evils produced by attempted prohibition, but it would be a step in the right direction.”

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/HISTORY/e1920/senj1926/codman.htm

Do you still honestly wish to return to alcohol prohibition?

Since we ended alcohol prohibition we no longer have rum-runners shooting it out all over town, or haven’t you noticed?

I know you feel it sucks to see support for your beloved prohibition fading rapidly, but sloppy thinking like yours is what got us into this mess in the first place, so to continue to spew your cognitive dissonance isn’t going to help at all.

Kindly find yourself another lost cause, and preferably one which is far less dangerous for the rest of us.

Well done; you got that one in before me ;>)

If there’s still anybody out there who doubts the CIA’s involvement in drug-running then they should watch “Mike Ruppert – CIA and Drug Running (1997)”
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7009998324250484369#

or check this out : http://www.ciadrugs.com/

How about: Support Mexican Drug Lords! Vote no on Prop 19!

It’s actually been shown to protect against cancer:

1) Donald Tashkin, a UCLA researcher whose work is funded by NIDA, did a case-control study comparing 1,200 patients with lung, head and neck cancers to a matched group with no cancer. Even the heaviest marijuana smokers had no increased risk of cancer, and had somewhat lower cancer risk than non-smokers (tobacco smokers had a 20-fold increased lung cancer risk). Tashkin D. Marijuana Use and Lung Cancer: Results of a Case-Control Study. American Thoracic Society International Conference. May 23, 2006.

2) Researchers at the Kaiser-Permanente HMO, funded by NIDA, followed 65,000 patients for nearly a decade, comparing cancer rates among non-smokers, tobacco smokers, and marijuana smokers. Tobacco smokers had massively higher rates of lung cancer and other cancers. Marijuana smokers who didn’t also use tobacco had no increase in risk of tobacco-related cancers or of cancer risk overall. In fact their rates of lung and most other cancers were slightly lower than non-smokers, though the difference did not reach statistical significance. Sidney, S. et al. Marijuana Use and Cancer Incidence (California, United States). Cancer Causes and Control. Vol. 8. Sept. 1997, p. 722-728.

3) In a 1994 study the government tried to suppress, federal researchers gave mice and rats massive doses of THC, looking for cancers or other signs of toxicity. The rodents given THC lived longer and had fewer cancers, “in a dose-dependent manner” (i.e. the more THC they got, the fewer tumors). NTP Technical Report On The Toxicology And Carcinogenesis Studies Of 1-Trans- Delta-9-Tetrahydrocannabinol, CAS No. 1972-08-3, In F344/N Rats And B6C3F Mice, Gavage Studies. See also, “Medical Marijuana: Unpublished Federal Study Found THC-Treated Rats Lived Longer, Had Less Cancer,” AIDS Treatment News no. 263, Jan. 17, 1997.

4) Federal researchers implanted several types of cancer, including leukemia and lung cancers, in mice, then treated them with cannabinoids (unique, active components found in marijuana). THC and other cannabinoids shrank tumors and increased the mice’s lifespans. Munson, AE et al. Antineoplastic Activity of Cannabinoids. Journal of the National Cancer Institute. Sept. 1975. p. 597-602.

RUN FROM THE CURE – The Rick Simpson Story
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjhT9282-Tw

There you go , just trying to confuse the issue with facts .

How is CIA suppose to fund its black budgets now?

Thirteen years ago the Ottawa Citizen ran four consecutive Editorials in four days calling for the legalization of Cannabis. Calling the Editorial Page Editor to commend him on taking such a brave stand, he suggested I submit an article for payment if it is selected as an Op-Ed article.

I submitted the following and on receipt the Editor said, “Now I guess we are going to have to s**t or get off the pot.” It did not appear as an Op-Ed item, but as a Letter to the Editor with heart and guts of it edited out.

iReport — http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-269162

June 16, 1997

Cannabis, Culture & Cost

by

Ray Joseph Cormier

The Ottawa Citizen is to be commended for taking a leading role in attempting to stimulate a public debate on the legalization of cannabis. This voice, added to those of Police Chief Brian Ford, and the head of Interpol, who have called for decrimilization of cannabis, could be the catalyst for a True Common Sense Revolution.

While cannabis has been around for thousands of years, knowledge of it was not in the public domain until the sixties. No one I knew did it, or talked about it until the mass media reported on the new phenomenon called marijuana, spreading through California like wild fire.

I read with horror, the media reporting that anyone who smoked just one marijuana cigarette, would suddenly snap, go blind, commit suicide, rape, plunder and kill. I certainly didn’t want to live in that kind of society. I thought, ‘That’s terrible! The police have to stop that from spreading. Why would people do that?’. In the cold war mentality of those times, I was naive, and believed our media always told the Truth.

One night, a trusted friend told me he had some marijuana. He told me he was smoking it for six months, but was afraid to tell me, knowing I was so against it. Convincing me my fears were based on falsehoods, I tried it. Nothing happened! A month later, my friend had some cannabis resin. That time, I experienced what getting high meant – to me.

Everyone has heard the expressions, “getting high” or “stoned.” It is as difficult to convey an exact, universal understanding of those words as an experience, as it would be to say GOD, and everyone know in common.

There are variables. Generally, cannabis or resin has mildly euphoric and tranquilizing effects simultaneously. Abstract concepts can be expressed verbally, with deeper insights. Fundamentally, cannabis and it’s resin is a social experience. Between users, thoughts, emotions, and words work more efficiently together in communion. Total strangers will take the time to share their lives with the offer of a joint, as in people joining together.

Montreal at that time was vibrant with Expo ‘67. Bohemians had disappeared, and beatniks were fading. The hippies had arrived. Peace, Love, brotherhood-sisterhood, sharing, caring and doing good with one another was the currency with the advent of cannabis. This, in my mind, was a positive change in society. The consensus was the government would have to legalize this beautiful, natural plant. That generation, the parents of today, were going to change the system.

In it’s series of editorials, The Citizen points out the gangsters selling alcohol during prohibition became rich, powerful and violent because the Law made it possible. When prohibition was repealed, the gangsters took their money, and invested in legitimate business. The gangster mentality is profit before people. With funding cuts to health care, education, and other services both cannabis users and non users need, the people should question the rationale for drug laws. How did the hope and promise of a kinder, gentler society degenerate into a leaner, meaner society? Why is a different standard applied to cannabis, than for alcohol and cigarettes?

Organized groups may import by the ton, but once landed, individual entrepreneurs handle retail distribution. These small time dealers are usually the people caught and sent to prison. Media reports reveal that top level dealers have the money to bribe police and other government officials in source countries.

In 1972, I was at the Frank Zappa concert when I met a friend in the crowd. I could not find cannabis for some time, and I enquired if my friend could help me? He reached into his pocket for a 5 gram piece of resin, and broke off half a gram. “Enjoy this,” he said, handing me the piece as a gift. Plainclothes police were working the crowd, and arrested us. Being my 1st offence, I received a six month peace bond. He was sentenced to six months in prison for trafficking. The taxpayer paid $18,000 to keep him there.

The Citizen reported on my last conviction for simple possession of cannabis resin on February 13, 1988. I was sentenced to 90 days in prison. That cost the taxpayer $9,000. The five policemen who came to court to testify on their day off, shared $1200 in time and a half overtime pay. Policemen always go to court on their scheduled day off. The cannabis Law financially benefits only the dealers, the lawyers and the police. The taxpayer loses.

Alcohol and tobacco can kill people. The government is happy to get the tax revenue. Repealing the cannabis laws will greatly reduce government expenditures in police, court and prison costs, and greatly increase government revenue so that hospitals can be kept open, and health care workers and teachers can keep their jobs. Deficit reduction targets and debt repayment will be realized sooner.

By the design of nature, the poorest of third world countries grow the best cannabis. Perhaps it is a crime against nature this unjust law deprives them the income from a cash crop they have in abundance.

During the Vietnam War I distinctly remember Dan Rather report on the CIA running drugs from the Golden Triangle. For the next few days I searched all the news media, print and TV for a follow up report. There were none. It was a one time report on CBS News. Was the story squelched by the CIA?

It’s not called the Cocaine Importation Agency for nuthin

If you drink enough water before any drug test, your pee will be so diluted it will turn up negative. take some B vitamins and you can’t tell how diluted it is by looking at it. If it’s an expensive test, they’ll ask you to come in for a retest. Delay a bit and you’ll be clean by then.

That’s rich!!!

Would you rather the kids smoke pot or drink alcohol and take pills? I, for one, having teen-agers would much rather them smoke pot then drink. Smoking does not lower your inhibitions, it doesn’t make you do stupid things. I is all around a safer way to self medicate than ANYTHING on the market today.

Would you rather the kids smoke pot or drink alcohol and take pills? I, for one, having teen-agers would much rather them smoke pot then drink. Smoking does not lower your inhibitions, it doesn’t make you do stupid things. I is all around a safer way to self medicate than ANYTHING on the market today.

Would you rather the kids smoke pot or drink alcohol and take pills? I, for one, having teen-agers would much rather them smoke pot then drink. Smoking does not lower your inhibitions, it doesn’t make you do stupid things. I is all around a safer way to self medicate than ANYTHING on the market today.

This is true and being a parent I would rather have my children smoke pot than drink. Drinking is bad all around, nothing good ever comes of drinking. Also, stoners make better parents as they tend to spend more time with the kids playing games and laughing and having a good time. Too many people out there are instant assholes, just add alcohol. People are much better off smoking pot than drinking, period. It is less harmful to your body and your brain doesn’t get ate up. Also, with a vaporizer, no harsh effects on your lungs either, besides you can eat it as well for the same effect.

of course prohibition doesnt work (another crazy christian scheme costing hundreds of billions) didnt work with alcohol, but did christians learn from that fiasco??of course not, they do not believe in evolution so they refuse to evolve out of their caveman mentality, we cant afford your fucking superstition, so lets stick to the seperation of superstition and state that we were supposed to be doing these last 200 plus years……….fucking religeous freaks!

of course prohibition doesnt work (another crazy christian scheme costing hundreds of billions) didnt work with alcohol, but did christians learn from that fiasco??of course not, they do not believe in evolution so they refuse to evolve out of their caveman mentality, we cant afford your fucking superstition, so lets stick to the seperation of superstition and state that we were supposed to be doing these last 200 plus years……….fucking religeous freaks!

It’s indicative of the blindness of some religious quarters that while they claim the people have to do what the Bible says, they do not have the flexibility of mind and freedom in the Spirit to recognize what God said in the beginning of Genesis,

[11] And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
[12] And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

They tolerate all kinds of man created chemical compounds because men say they are legal and what God created is illegal. Christ was convicted and put to death according to the Law, a criminal malefactor.

To this very Day Christ says, Father! Forgive them. They don’t know what they are doing.

Don’t get me wrong, I have read the same or similar articles. I watched the movie “Grass” (I think that was the film, I try to watch them all), in which a doctor said that smoking marijuana increases the risk of cancer by a measly (not her word) 1%.

Um, strange choice of wording. If you are saying that marijuana is no worse than tobacco, I will say that marijuana is MUCH better than tobacco.

the only economy it will hurt is the Cop Economy. The addiction to drug money from both sides is threatened!

Understand this, people. It`s nothing to do with morality, with health ot anything but dirty money. The criminals on both sides of law enforcement have a lot to lose if this so called drug is decriminalized. We have been pouring billions into this bottomless pit for decades. It is so corrupt that it is nearly impossible to overestimate .

Weed should have been legalized a long time ago, my POV is to legalize weed and then tax the hell out of it.

Budwieser is a huge opponent of legalized pot. Easy to understand why. At this point it will make no difference to me. I smoke pot and have for 40 years. Sometimes regularly sometimes rarely. I am in good health, I do not take any prescription meds and I have not visited a doctor for 9 years. I was badgered into the traditional 50 year old check-up. My politically correct alchohol drinking friends are not doing so well. The obvious liver issues for the most regular users. Stomach and colon disease is not uncommon among them. Diabetes is also part of their make-up. I just went to a 60th birthday gathering. At a table where some sat with their beer and mixed drinks, the discussion was about what meds, what Procedures and what happened to those not still with us. I rolled a spliff, listened to them complain about it and left them to return to their discussion of xanex, diabetes numbers and health care costs. Just how stupid can we get? Much stupider. After my whole adult life living as a pot criminal it does not matter what the outcome of Prop 19 is. The only difference to me will be how much money the state and feds will spend next year on trying to make sure that I do not come home from work and have a puff if I feel like it. Probably no more than a couple Billion. What the hell, we have the money right. BTW- the two growers that I know are hoping that it is not made legal. They are afraid of big ag putting them out of business. They bring in over a half million a year, NET. That is after the money that they pay to their growers and trimmers. Both of those groups of workers make more than Teachers and cops in a four month work year.

Why are any police officers lobbying against a public referendum like Prop 19? Since when is law enforcement part of the legislative branch of the government? I thought the LEO position was — if it’s the law, we enforce it. Are they now trying to handpick the laws which benefit them? Well, that’s a dangerous, truly slippery slope.

Just a heads up for you. Pot is not better now than ot was in the past. The amount of commercial mexican kilos of commercial grade pot that makes it’s way onto the market is nill compared to the 60′s and 70′s. The stats that keep showing up that compare now to the era when commercial kilos and $10 “lids” was the majority of pot consumed and confiscated. That’s the reason the then and now stats are so different. When Nixon closed the border, American entrepenuers moved into Oregon and No. Cal. Consumers can not find a seed filled bag of pot, instead it is mostly designer pot with fancy names and a well groomed product. Occasionally you will run across some that is exceptional in taste and effect. But, for you egoistic growers out there, it really isn’t that good. You may have cool names and talk about the genetic background of your product, but it just isn’t that special when compared to the past which had, Panama Red, Mauii wowie, and humbolt green from the 70′s and my backyard strain.

You are probably also the type of parent that does not feed your children sugar cereal in the morning, you probably don’t have as one of your staples a favorite fast food chain products and you probably spend time with your kids. Congratulations, keep it up. You will probably not live through the teenage drinking issues of DUI, binge drinking and violent behavior.

My kids do eat sugar cereal, without my blessing as I hate it but I have always told my children the truth when it comes to drugs and alcohol so that they may make educated decisions. They are not drinkers, nor will they ever be drinkers as they have their aunt and uncle to watch become homeless and jobless while on binges. Yes, we let them see it as to be educated. Both my children are teens now and do not want any part of that lifestyle. We are very open with our children and have very good relationships with them because of it.

“Are they now trying to handpick the laws which benefit them? ”

Well, yes, they are. Since everyone else in government is doing it, they felt they had the right to it too. The real problem comes when the people decide to get in on the act.

I’m all for legalization, but claiming it will somehow end or lessen Mexican violence is a bit of a stretch. The Chicago mafia didn’t exactly end with prohibition. Plus I doubt Mexican ganja is what’s being smoked by the majority of Californians.

[QUOTE]Camin and Castaneda’s arguments join those of the former Republican governor of New Mexico, Gary E. Johnson, who wrote at the FireDogLake blog Friday that marijuana decriminalization is “probably the only practical way to weaken the drug cartels.”[/QUOTE]

This is the reason marijuana will never be decriminalized. The War on Drugs, like the War on Terror, is yet another endless war, and it’s lining the pockets and filling the coffers of police departments, prison operators, arms manufacturers & others in the military-industrial-surveillance complex.

We need an enemy to fight a war. Demonizing a plant only worked for so long before most people realized it was nothing more than fear-mongering nonsense. So the chief boogyman for this endless war is now the drug cartels.

Because much of our marijuana comes from Mexico, most likely thru these cartels, it should be painfully obvious (even to pot smokers) that decriminalization would financially cripple those same superscary drug cartels (probably the ones that are leaving the headless bodies in Arizona that aren’t there).

This is an underutilized argument, if you ask me, but then a lot of Christians don’t seem to be particularly clear on the tenets of their own religion.

After all, Prohibition back when was, so far as I know, largely Christian in its impetus. Apart from its catastrophic failure from a public good standpoint (the Chicago gangs may not have gone away when Prohibition ended, but that period was their absolute heyday for a reason), what was Jesus’ opinion on alcohol?

The Guy’s first miracle mentioned in the Bible was to create booze for a party! And the fundamental symbolism Jesus chose to represent His sacrifice for others’ sins was WINE. Which He proscribed at a PARTY with a bunch of His friends.

Seriously, the religion is quite literally based on booze. The fact that ANY Christian would be in favor of its criminalization is so ass-backwards it’s hard to believe. Unclear on the concept.

But to what shall I liken this generation? It is like unto children sitting in the markets, and calling unto their fellows,
[17] And saying, We have piped unto you, and you have not danced; we have mourned unto you, and you have not lamented.
[18] For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, He has a devil.
[19] The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a wine bibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.

This tells us Jesus liked eating and drinking his wine, He hung out with the ordinary kinds of people, not with those who thought they were so holier than the others and righteous in their own minds, who only hung out with like minded people thinking themselves better than the sinners.

This is why the Bible records Christ will leave the 99 that are “saved” to find the one that is lost. There are found everywhere, in bars and clubs, on the streets, at work and among family and friends

He came unto his own and his own would not receive him. To those who did, he gave them power TO BECOME SONS OF GOD as Jesus is.

But to what shall I liken this generation? It is like unto children sitting in the markets, and calling unto their fellows,
[17] And saying, We have piped unto you, and you have not danced; we have mourned unto you, and you have not lamented.
[18] For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, He has a devil.
[19] The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a wine bibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.

This tells us Jesus liked eating and drinking his wine, He hung out with the ordinary kinds of people, not with those who thought they were so holier than the others and righteous in their own minds, who only hung out with like minded people thinking themselves better than the sinners.

This is why the Bible records Christ will leave the 99 that are “saved” to find the one that is lost. There are found everywhere, in bars and clubs, on the streets, at work and among family and friends

He came unto his own and his own would not receive him. To those who did, he gave them power TO BECOME SONS OF GOD as Jesus is.

I’ve posted a free song on the Internet about this very subject.
http://luckyjean.bandcamp.com/track/victory-garden

“…yes you too can fight organized crime
And stay stoned all at the same time
Support your local cannabis grower.”

There is no way a tax can be imposed on what I grow in my garden. Fruits, vegetables, herbs and flowers are free to grow and consume. So it shall be with cannabis once again! World wide legalization is the only solution.

I have had several cops tell me “Hey, I just enforce the law. If you don’t like the law, then change it.” They have proven themselves to be liars with thier opposition to prop 19. Support LEAP!!

Nice pickin, Jean. Interesting lyrics too!

WHAT THE HELL DOES THAT MEAN

shout the hell up what u said was pointless PROP 19 is for people 21 OR OLDER

your boat is sinking,pal get use to it. yes/19

PROP19 IS FOR PEOPLE 21 OR OLDER.ENUFF WITH THE WHAT ABOUT THE TEENAGERS/KIDS PROP19 IS FOR 21 OR OLDER WHAT PART OF THAT DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND

sorry that was for jflag

shout your pie hole,punk

that is the most retarded thing i have ever heard

TAKE A WALK LITTLE MAN YOUR COMMENTS ARE WORTHLESS,RUN AWAY LITTLE DOGGY

it’s made it this far. just a little bit more and we’re home free yes/19

are you for or against it?if u are for it, u just gave the otherside more negative ammo to use against our side

On this subject, I just found this very interesting article that just appeared on the Internet confirming my comment above.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=20907

If it ever looks like it could win, watch the Feds start to threaten.

Yes, folks need to go to their site:

http://www.leap.cc

Get out your credit card and donate while you’re there. Because once you see what they are doing, you’ll agree!

That’s ignorant of the facts. It’s also making a false all-or-nothing argument. No one can make you happy (adam) because no one can totally eradicate organized crime.

The fact that organized crime still had drugs, prostitution, extortion and other criminal enterprises, IN NO WAY diminishes the huge loss and reduction of their organizations that ending prohibition did to them.

There is research on that if you want to bother to look. There was a dangerous period as thousands of out-of-work mobsters got their funding cut, looked for other easy money, and eventually had to go get real jobs. I read some good research on that but …. long ago and can’t point to to it. Libraries are still your best resource.

No, ending prohibition was a huge blow to crime organizations as will simply ending the cannabis prohibition. An 80% profit cut by some estimates just on the Mexican side.

“Oh, it’s not everything…. let’s give up.” whine, whine, whine…

I bet they get a pat on the back but if they did the opposite they’d get in trouble for engaging in politics.

If we did go all the way and legalize both use and production of cannabis, perhaps there are many in law enforcement and prisons who would worry about loosing their jobs.

Seems to be plenty else we as a society would rather have them do with our tax dollars.

thats not the whole point of prop19,it gets our foot in the door and we can take it from there i believe people would vote no for just stuipd reasons,it’s all about getting our foot in the door WHAT PART OF THAT DON’T UNDERSTAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No Californians Are Not Smoking Mexican Marijuana. The Mexican Cartels Have Moved In And Started Growing It In California And Reaping Major Profits. They No Longer Have To Worry About Smuggling It Into The US.

I fucking hate these ‘no on 19′ ads on every pro 19 article

inch by inch we will gain true legalization of the best plant in the world, we already got our foot in the door with medicinal cannabis, in november we will open the door for everyone

Better stuff . Good to acquire new things about designing. ;)

We need to understand history when we speak. This writer of this add did his homework. Organized crime was founded with the help of prohibition. Take prohibition down and you take down organized crime. Organized crime can help kill important people even in high places, corrupt police departments where running out of control, killings of people was at an all time high all due toward the prohibition law. If you leagalize a drug less harmfull than alcohol to break the back of the drug-cartel and re-claim the billions upon billions that california growers have lost for decades to mexican farmers over the border is a double plus. (I’m a republican and I approve this messege).

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