Islam controversies cast shadow over 9/11 events

By Associated Press
Saturday, September 11, 2010 8:11 EST
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Politics threatened to overshadow a day of mourning Saturday for nearly 3,000 Sept. 11 victims amid a polarizing national debate over a planned mosque blocks from the site where Islamic extremists attacked America.

Chants of thousands of sign-waving protesters both for and against the planned Islamic center were expected after — and perhaps during — a ceremony normally known for somber church bells ringing and a sad litany of families reading their lost loved ones’ names.

President Barack Obama and first lady Michelle Obama were to attend separate services in Washington and Shanksville, Pa., for the victims of hijacked jetliners that hit the Pentagon and a rural field in 2001.

But the rallies planned in New York embroiled victims’ family members in a feud over whether to play politics on the ninth anniversary of the attacks.

Nancy Nee, whose firefighter brother was killed at the World Trade Center, is bitterly opposed to the Park51 proposed mosque and Islamic community center near ground zero. But she didn’t plan to join other family members at an anti-mosque rally hours after the anniversary ceremony.

“I just wanted to be as at peace with everything that’s going on as I possibly can,” Nee said. Even nine years later, she said, her brother George Cain’s death “is still very raw. … And I just don’t have it in me to be protesting and arguing, with anger in my heart and in my head.”

Jim Riches planned to pay respects at ground zero to his firefighter son, Jimmy, then rally.

“My son can’t speak anymore. He’s been murdered by Muslims. I intend to voice my opinion against the location of this mosque,” Riches said. “If someone wants to go home, that’s their right. I have the right to go there.”

The heated mosque debate — pitting advocates of religious freedom against critics who say that locating an Islamic center so close to ground zero disrespects the dead — led Obama to remind Americans on Friday, “We are not at war against Islam.”

A threat to burn copies of the Muslim holy book on the anniversary — which had set off international protests — was on hold, although the Florida pastor who made the threat flew to New York on Friday night, declining to comment to a throng of reporters waiting for him. “I’m talked out,” Terry Jones said.

Jones’ son in Gainesville, Fla., confirmed that his father would not — at least for now — burn copies of the Quran, a plan that inflamed much of the Muslim world and drew a stern rebuke from Obama.

Jones, pastor of a 50-member Pentecostal church, backed off the threat on Thursday after a call from the secretary of defense and impassioned pleas to call off the plan from religious and political leaders and his own daughter.

Jones previously had said he would cancel his plan if the leader of the proposed Islamic center, Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, would agree to move the project to another location and had said he wanted to meet with Rauf in New York.

Rauf said Friday he was “prepared to consider meeting with anyone who is seriously committed to pursuing peace” but had no such meeting planned with Jones.

In Afghanistan, shops and police checkpoints were set in fire Saturday as thousands of people protested Jones’ plan and chanted “Death to America” in Logar province. At least 11 people were injured Friday in similar protests in Badakhshan province.

In Indonesia, the world’s most populous Muslim country, cleric Rusli Hasbi told 1,000 worshippers at Friday prayers that whether or not Jones burns the Quran, he already has “hurt the heart of the Muslim world.”

Activists in New York insisted their intentions were peaceful. More than 1,000 protesters on both sides of the issue were expected to converge at the mosque site, a former clothing factory two blocks north of the trade center site.

“It’s a rally of remembrance for tens of thousands who lost loved ones that day,” said Pamela Geller, a conservative blogger and host of the anti-mosque demonstration. “It’s not a political event, it’s a human rights event.”

John Bolton, who was U.S. ambassador to the United Nations under President George W. Bush, was expected to send a videotaped message of support to the anti-mosque rally, as was conservative blogger Andrew Breitbart. Anti-Islam Dutch politician Geert Wilders, who advocates banning the Quran and taxing Muslim women who wear head scarves, planned to address the crowd in person, as do a handful of Republican congressional candidates who have made opposition to the mosque a centerpiece of their campaigns.

Muslim prayer services are normally held at the site but it was padlocked Friday and would be closed Saturday, the official end of the holy month of Ramadan. Police planned 24-hour patrols of the site until next week. Worshippers on Friday were redirected to a different prayer room 10 blocks away.

While the president was at the Pentagon service Saturday and the first lady was to join former first lady Laura Bush at Shanksville, Vice President Joe Biden planned to speak at the New York ceremony, where 2,752 people were killed when two jetliners flew into the trade center. Bells were to toll for the first time at 8:46 a.m., the minute that the first plane struck the first tower, and then three more times to mark the moment the second plane hit the tower and for the times that each tower collapsed.

More than 2,000 supporters of the project, waving candles and American flags, held a vigil Friday night at the mosque site, saying they wanted to avoid entangling the mosque controversy and the Sept. 11 observance.

Stephanie Parker, whose father, Philip L. Parker, worked for an insurance company at the trade center, normally spends the attacks’ anniversary privately with family. The mosque furor brought her out for the first time.

“I think the anniversary is being overshadowed,” Parker, 21, said as she relighted a candle that kept blowing out in a breeze. “This year, I feel like I should use my voice and my position” as a victim’s relative to speak up for tolerance, she said.

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  • Anonymous

    I am sorry that these beheadding maniacs are sooo sensitive. I think it is time for them to worry about what the “American Street” thinks of them for once.

    It is well documented that Mohammad was a violent pedophile. Get over it.

  • Anonymous

    On September 11, 2001 no Americans were murdered by Muslims for once murder is in anyone’s heart they are no longer believers in God. They were murdered by Saudi Arabian CRIMINALS. Demonstrate at the Saudi Arabian embassies in New York and Washington and show the despicable Al Saud dictatorship that they and they alone are responsible.

  • Anonymous

    The 9/11 episode started a cottage industry of slander. Everyone believes the company line, buys from the company store, and hates those who criticize the company policy.

    It even fused together the far-left and the far-right so they can agree as their legs tingle with the mystery of getting along on such a strange stage.

    The bed (embedded) and the stage (troops “on the ground“) make for some strange bedfellows and alliances.

    Crazy Daze these are.

  • Marybrayer

    We believe in freedom. The good people of Islam believe in Sharia law. We believe in the gift of life, the good people of Islam believe the gift is in death. We believe in science, the good people of Islam believe all the science we need is in the Koran. I could go on and on but you get the point.

  • Anonymous

    Christians burned heretics alive, Muslims allowed Jews to live in their cities. Christians believe the world is 6000 years old, the good people of Islam invented algebra. I could go on and on but you get the point.

  • Anonymous

    When are you guys deporting Muhammad Ali?

  • Marybrayer

    Beakie if you want to retrograde to a differentt century please feel free. Also, my comment said nothing about Christians. My comments are based on the freedoms granted by the US constitution which, by the way, was developed as a result of the atrocities you mentioned.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WEAPT7CBGVXZE6PI5TQJ4ONNPM ndasilva28

    Eventually you will all realize that you been fooled. That muslim religion is just the extension of christianity and your true enemies have always been laughing behind your back as they pushed you to kill your brothers. Eventually, but obviously not yet, for for now you will continue to wade in your own ignorance as you slaughter the innocents and blame your Creator for that which you do yourself.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WEAPT7CBGVXZE6PI5TQJ4ONNPM ndasilva28

    close. but don’t forget to include their employer, the Mossad, “by deception we wage war”

  • Anonymous

    I think the whole thing is pretty sad my self.

    http://www.real-anonymity.es.tc

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WEAPT7CBGVXZE6PI5TQJ4ONNPM ndasilva28

    your an ignorant fool, the mere fact i’m taking the time to reply to you is beyond what your worth.

    how does it feel to live under the hate filled ideology that is within you?

  • Marybrayer

    Also Beakie, I know you think I’m a Christian because my first name is Mary, but, I don’t think you’re a duck because your name is Beakie

  • Anonymous

    The overlords are scared that people are getting unruly and are starting to figure everything out. People are waking up. People are seeing that Fascism is alive and well. People are seeing the police state for what it is. People are seeing the disproportionate of justice, and who the law applies to. People are feeling the crunch of bills, low wages, inflation, and no health care. People are becoming “the haves” and “the have-nots” and people are getting mad. Looting, torture, illegal wars, stolen elections, secret rendition, false flag terrorism, liars, plunderers, rapists, and war criminals. People are waking up.

    The Overlords are getting scared. They are trying to divide the Country. They are trying to start a race war so that the rich can continue to hide out and rape the American people. Wake up, get up, and STAND UP!

  • http://www.leosigh.blogspot.com Leo Sigh

    As an American living overseas, I’ve made the decision this month to never set foot on American soil again. To spend money and to support such a country full of hate, not in my lifetime. No way. I just canceled my planned Christmas vacation to the US and will spend my money in Malaysia and Spain instead.

    THIS is what America has to look forward to from more and more people like me, relatively moderate liberals who refuse to spend our money in the land of evil that America is becoming. And if people who think this hatred against Muslims is wrong DON’T stand up and say so, then, you’re just as bad as the Muslim haters and deserve the ruination of the American economy just like the haters do. Sorry.

  • http://www.leosigh.blogspot.com Leo Sigh

    No they weren’t. They were murdered by George Bush and his government and this ‘Muslim conspiracy’ was just their plan to get idiot Americans to sign on to an illegal war. What a country when a scumbag like Bush can fool so many millions, and destroy America in the bargain.

  • Christianlibrul

    bu$h said years ago that we weren’t at war with Islam, and said it was a religion of peace. I guess that was then and this is now.

    Nevertheless, once again, I will comemorate the day bu$h allowed–or assisted with–the worst attack on our soil in history. Over $3 trillion stolen and wasted, at least 10K troops dead, at least 150K messed up for life. Boy, I sure am glad God–and the Extreme Court–put bu$h in office over the voters’ wishes, aren’t you?

  • Christianlibrul

    The pope made Galileo recant. If “the church” had gotten its way over the centuries, there would be no science. Even today, many protestant theofascist “churches” “preach” against science because, as they say, “all scientists are atheists.” So if a biologist says 2+2=4, it isn’t because he’s an atheist.

  • Anonymous

    There is no place to hide. So long as the greed and corruption in washington continues to flourish as it has for the last 10 years. In one way or another the US is either aiding and abetting, funding or covertly undermining whoever they want or don’t want in power.

    The US supported Saddam Hussien in his efforts to take over Iraq.

    The US supported and funded the mujahadeen led by Osama Bin Laden and called them Freedom Fighters.

    When it comes to money and power. The US government doesn’t care about boundaries

  • Marybrayer

    but remember, jesus is the one who told Bush to attack Iraq. For the life of me I cain’t figure out why Jesus just didn’t tell Sadam to step down. Hmmmmm,

  • wiseturtle

    So are many of your priests, preachers, and rabbi’s.. And your fucking point?

  • TaterSalad

    Islam is taking over the world and it is now America’s turn to fall:

    Very Important to know this before it is to late:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpM6QKaAgP0&feature=player_embedded#!

    It is Islams Duty to Conquer and this video shows why:

    http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2010/09/10/dawah-the-duty-to-conquer-video/

    America…….. don’t be so gullible because if you remain this way it will change the way you live and here is why:

    http://noiri.blogspot.com/2010/08/must-view-islamic-poke-in-eye-for-usa.html

    President Barack Obama supports the “Victory Mosque at ground zero while 65% or more of America says NO to this construction. Since the President says he is a Muslim ( http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28 ) ( http://therealrevo.com/blog/?p=30879 ) ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwhKuunp8D8&feature=player_embedded )or so he says and he is to embarassed to actually tell us all the truth (again), then it is evident that he does not care about any of the Americans killed on 9/11 but only about the feelings of Islamists who want to build this grand “Victory Mosque”.

    Attached are videos #1, #2, #3, #4 & #5 of what our President supports and what kind of “Change” he wants to bring to America. Change that is NOT in the best interests of America and our laws.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpM6QKaAgP0&feature=player_embedded

    http://www.meetup.com/Informing-for-conservatism/messages/boards/thread/9579169/#37254392

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye-DbwJtnus

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU

    http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2010/07/shariah-law-and-english-law.html

    http://noiri.blogspot.com/2010/08/must-view-islamic-poke-in-eye-for-usa.html

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/06/pat-condell-on-ground-zero-mosque-is-it-possible-to-be-astonished-but-not-surprised.html

    http://therothshow.com/2010/08/islamic-domination-and-rule-on-its-way-with-new-york-mosque/

    Which Islam will prevail in the United States?
    http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/244349/which-islam-will-prevail-america-andrew-c-mccarthy

    Anthrax time for the United States?
    America……..wake up and stop the “complete” immigration of Muslims to the United States……….now!

    http://www.tangle.com/view_video?viewkey=0861ff3eabea1ceb73e4

    Flight 93, Shanksville, Pennsylvania fields, there is also another Muslim victory site being constructed as we speak!

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/07/911-hero-family-member-ground-zero-mosque-is-the-second-mosque-being-built-on-a-911-site-.html

    Sharia compliant banks: http://sioe.wordpress.com/sharia-compliant-banks/ and http://finfree4all.blogspot.com/2006/01/sharia-compliant-bank-opens-in.html – Do you know if your money in banks is being used wisely?

    Muslims need a place to pray in New York is a complete scam:
    http://sweetness-light.com/archive/muslims-in-manhattan-need-a-place-to-pray

    The problems of the world originates from right here:

    http://www.verfassungsschutz.niedersachsen.de/live/live.php?navigation_id=12328&article_id=54221&_psmand=30

    Which Islam will prevail in the United States?
    http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/244349/which-islam-will-prevail-america-andrew-c-mccarthy

    Here is what is going to happen to the United States very soon as it is already happening in France, Germany, Sweeden, Finland and many more countries.

    http://bigpeace.com/stzu/2010/09/02/cbn-islamization-of-paris-a-warning-to-the-west/#idc-container

    Remember this:
    http://www.practicalstate.com/2010/09/11/when-you-remember-911-remember-this/

  • Anonymous

    9/11 has caused more hate and dissension in the country then any other event in our history. Why? Because of the fucking morons running the show have set it all up to happen exactly how it is happening. Divide the people and they are conquered from within. And they still can’t catch the boogie man. What a country of losers.

    I might add, and then we praise the ones who fucked it all up and let it happen. Sick, sick, sick.

  • 2fat2fish

    It’s not the “Islam controversies” that cast a shadow over 9/11 events.
    It’s AP and the rest of the traitorous corporate media, the same media that ‘catapulted the WMD propaganda. I noticed the AP really started to get deceptive using misleading headlines, etc. around 2004.
    That church in Florida has less than 50 members. In a nation of 300 million I could highlight examples of almost any point of view, including people who worship the flying spaghetti monster if I so chose.
    The corporate media is once again attempting to create controversy and mislead the American people.
    They are professional liars ,propagandists, carnivals barkers and traitors.
    After Iraq, phony WMD’s and their complete omission of reporting on the coming economic crash they have no credibility and would probably be best ignored.

  • ginger

    It seems obvious to me that attacking Muslim countries around the world for known Neocon and Israeli Lobby lies and goading – are themselves hate crimes (like the Park 51 intimidation and the Koran-burning) as well as war crimes.

    Is there a relationship between hate crimes such as burning Korans and intimidating Muslims from building community centers at home in the US and slaughtering countries in the Muslim world, like Iraq? – you bet there is – the common denomintor is the Neocons and Israel Lobby

    It’s this same group that wants us to illegally attack Muslim countries overseas – like Iraq and now Iran – that are now more and more whipping up anti-Muslim hysteria at home.

    Just as the Neocons and Israel Lobby cheerled and lied us into the warcrime against Iraq, just as they are now are trying to whip America up to illegally attack Iran, so too are these same Neocons and Israel Lobbists are actively engaged in these acts of domestic terrorism at home by whipping up the masses to commit hate crimes amongst American Muslims.

    Just as these Neocons and Israel Lobby have propagandized a majority of Americans to actually believe Iran has a nuclear weapon and ‘should’ be attacked – so too have they done everything possible to propagandize the American people against Muslims – this Park 51 center and the Koran-burning being just the latest examples.

    These Neocons now cheerlead the effort to attack American Muslims on our own soil

    Charles Krauthammer, John Bolton, and David Brooks should all be investigated using Hate Crime legislation now on the books

  • http://www.wwnewsflash.com/islam#2894671 World Wide News Flash

    Islam controversies cast shadow over 9/11 events | Raw Story…

    I found your entry interesting do I’ve added a Trackback to it on my weblog :)…

  • Anonymous

    There is no real press covering “news” anymore. It’s all just infotainment these days, kind of like Jerry Springer’s “nuts and sluts” segments. Nuts and sluts “political” infortainment is exemplified in the likes of Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin, and issues like Islamohatred, or the more outrageous the hyperbole and/or hate, better the ratings, right?

    You in the media have taught these goofballs that this kind of behaviour is okay, because they succeed in getting attention from you, and no real scrutiny…..

  • Jon

    The only shadow cast is the LIES of the mainstream media. Do yourselves a favor and turn them off…it hurts for a while but what do you miss? Lousy reality TV shows about that program you to be watched constantly in your homes…lies about swine flu, pandemics, wars that can’t be won but are making some people rich….while the economy goes down the toilet. Yeah, let’s not forget how Great the Economy is…

    When they stop LYING about 911, I’ll watch.

  • Anonymous

    We should acknowledge the GOPs and Faux for their contributions to darkness on this day.

  • DickNH

    The “We” you talk about includes MANY MUSLIMS…..or are you just talking about your FELLOW BIGOTS ?

  • Anonymous

    If you believe in the Constitution you should MYOB about the Muslims. I see them everyday in the grocery store etc. & don’t give them a second thought.

  • Anonymous

    If you believe in the Constitution you should MYOB about the Muslims. I see them everyday in the grocery store etc. & don’t give them a second thought.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t forget to look past 911, past each current interpretation of that religion to it’s roots.
    Any religion that says “no other god but mine” is total bullshit.
    It just ain’t gonna work out well for the human species in the long run.

    New Fundamentalism=
    Any “my god is the best” religions are fundamentally screwed up and not conducive to coexistence. Change them, fundamentally, or be doomed.

  • Anonymous

    Every 911,
    I remember that day, when I jumped in with a few other rational customers at a corner store in Portland, OR to protect the Muslim shopkeeper from some half-drunken, verbose Christians who intended to take revenge for what they were seeing on TV. We took turns standing guard for the rest of the day. The store closed for the next few days, and that was sad, but when it reopened, the shopkeeper was very thankful to his neighbors. His biggest fear (expressed later)…he would get killed at work and could no longer provide for his family.

    So, I like your message….calm down….but I add….pay attention.

  • Anonymous

    I think we should let the Right Wing have 9/11. They are the ones who ignored the warnings of the impending attacks of 9/11, they are the ones who reacted exactly as Bin Laden had hoped in response to 9/11, and they are the ones who supported BushCo as it flushed this country down the toilet killing Afghans and Iraqis for something that a bunch of Saudis did on 9/11. 9/11 should belong to them even as we try to undo as much as we can the damage that BushCo, Fox News and Hate Radio… and Christofucks have done to this country.

  • Christianlibrul

    There are no “Islam controversies.” There are only anti-Constitutional, racist attacks from cancervative reslugliKLAN “christians” who they are the only ones who should be allowed to live here.

  • Marybrayer

    yeah right. those poor “innocent muslims” is about as accurate as saying those “poor innocent” neocons

  • parrots_abound

    Megaphone….megaphone….megaphone

  • parrots_abound

    The only people arrested and detained on 9/11 in connection or under suspicion of being linked with the event……were Israelis.

    Dominick Suter and Urban Moving Systems were investigated in the days following. Other Israeli Nationals were detained and let go by FBI.

    And then there were these fellows >>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh3wo18oDZU

    And then there was this >>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bwrYveeF1Y&feature=related

    We were lied to and there was more to the story.

  • http://twitter.com/shivabeach Shiva

    So KSB and the rest of his merry band in Gitmo arnt really there?

  • http://twitter.com/shivabeach Shiva

    Breitbart sending video’s? Uh huh.

    Gingrich needs to have a strong talking to. He is hoping that public sentiment against Obama and muslims will get him elected to pres.

    I suppose the next abortion doctor that gets killed by a baptist will signal that all baptists are killers? Im sure it wont.

  • Anonymous

    After 70 torture sessions and brain washing techniques, I bet I could make you think you were KSB, you fucking twat. Why don’t you go out and bang your head on some concrete, because what you are doing to it now, is just plain wrong. Start thinking for yourself.

  • Anonymous

    Does anyone know what Megaphone is?

  • Anonymous

    I think I’m going to join you…

  • Anonymous

    Yep, cause bombing indiscriminately is so much more honorable. You fucking ignorant waste of space. Take all their guns, weapons, and ammunition, while we run around with A-Bombs, infrared, and Weapons of Mass Destruction…what the fuck do you think they are going to do, you imbecile.

  • Anonymous

    Kareem Abdul Jabbar is next I heard. Then Busta Rhymes, Mos Def, Cat Stevens, Mike Tyson, Shaq O’Neal, Hakeem Olajuwon, Ahmad Rashad, and Dave Chappelle.

  • WTF

    You wouldn’t recognize the Constitution if it bit you on the ass. You scum Liberals are worse than Muslims. Personally, I believe we need to focus on removing all of your kind from society first. Then the Muslims.

  • WTF

    I didn’t KNOW Bill Clinton was a right-winger? Golly bob howdy Vern.

    Your old pal Slick Willy is responsible for Bin Laden getting away scott free. Fucking Libs and Dems, you vision always seems to get dim before or after Bush.

  • WTF

    Well, Ginger, I don’t know what city you live in, or care. But, when an Islamicbomb turns it into a radioactive crater, tell me how you feel about Iran not getting weapons, ok? Assuming you survive, and the Internet is functional. That is what it is going to take, to wake you stupid Libs up. And even then, I don’t know if that would be enough to wake your asses up.

  • WTF

    Don’t waste your time trying to convince these fools man. Let them sleep. All the smart people will pull out and move to areas that are armed and ready for the government and Muslims, leaving the rest of these sheep in place to be eaten. Hell, DON’T wake them up, I like that concept. Better they get herded off into camps, and used for slave labor and “vaccine” experiments than us. Yeah, leave them sleeping.

  • WTF

    You swear to God? Don’t tease dude, seriously. You really truly promise never to come back? Can you get your friends to join you? Please man, I’d be grateful if you could talk all the Libbies into joining you OUTSIDE of America, for ever, and ever, and ever………….

  • WTF

    You go Eric! GO, GO, GO, GO….comeon’ everyone, CHEER!

  • WTF

    No Mary, they don’t. And they never will. That is the problem.

  • Anonymous

    You should change your name to “eric the foul-mothedvulgarfool. Oh yesm did I mention that you were and idiot also?

    Why are libs so vulgar. A substitute for brains?

  • WTF

    Catholics burned heretics alive, not Protestants. Muslims at one time tolerated Jews. Now they hate them and want them all DEAD and gone, since Israel is a nation. Blame England for creating the mess there, not Israel. Jordan, was the Palastinian state, and Britain gave it to their Arab friends after the war, as a reward. And, there is no race, of Palastine. Nor was there ever. Palastine comes from the Roman name for Israel’s enemies, the Phillistines. Algebra, being linked to this, is absurd. I could go on, but you won’t get the point…..

  • WTF

    You sure don’t, Beakie, give them that second thought. And that, is the plan. Remain low-key. For now. Did you know, Beakie, they keep records, of all their neighbors, who are Christian. Or Jewish? Did you know that, Beakie? Both here, and in Canada, Beakie. And that information goes to Damascus? Where the order to execute those Christians and Jews will come from. And then, Beakie, when they are done, they will murder and butcher all other religions, Hindu, Pagan, New Agers, etc. And then, Beakie, when that’s all done, you know what they’ll do next? Murder and butcher each other, Beakie, because Sunni hates Shiite, and Shiite hates Sunni. I wouldn’t worry, much about them at the grocery store, Beakie. Oh, and if you’re an athiest? You won’t be long. You’ll convert to Islam……oh yah…..or die.

  • Marybrayer

    Good points WTF. I got em even if beakie didn’t

  • Marybrayer

    Excellent Points again WTF!!! Finally someone who understands the agenda.

  • Marybrayer

    hoorah!!!

  • WTF

    I knew you would Mary! But about 97% of those here don’t or won’t. I’m trying to figure out which it is with these people, ignorance, or apathy. If we asked them, they’d say, “I don’t know, and I don’t care”…….

  • Marybrayer

    I think the libbies would make good slaves for the muslims.

  • Marybrayer

    I think the libbies would make good slaves for the muslims.

  • WTF

    Well, Mary, what I did, was actually go and study the history of the world, and of Islam as well. The information is all out there, for anyone who wants to trouble themselves to go research it. None of it is classified or secret. I’ve also lived long enough to have watched a lot of history take place as well.

    Those who fail to understand history, are doomed to repeat it.

    I get the feeling that a lot of the regulars here, are not too far off from that high school graduation they had recently. That’s how they sound anyway. In that case, we can forgive the ignorance, they simply weren’t taught history or anything else of importance. They learned about Political Correctness, or how we cheated and robbed the Indians. Or how we must become Global Citizens. Mutlicultural Diversity. Tolerance. Important stuff like that.

    They learned nothing of American History, that hasn’t been sanitized by the PC Police. They didn’t learn Patriotism. The real thing. God, Duty, Country, none of that really means anything to them.

    Out of my daughters entire graduating class, ONE of them, enlisted in the Marine Corps. The rest felt the military was stupid. Crap. They weren’t gonna join.

    One of her best friends told me once, on Veteran’s Day, “I don’t know why we even have this stupid holiday.”…….

    This, is what we are dealing with on this site……the product of Liberalism.

  • Marybrayer

    vaccine experiments—I think you may have found a use for the liberals. good work

  • WTF

    That was awesome Mary…..I’m laughing so hard right now……

    I thought Beakie was a little bird, pecking at his seed….

  • WTF

    ****fistbumps****

  • Marybrayer

    hahaha – you’re right

  • WTF

    Mary, if you want to chat, you can email me at:

    joestalin56@yahoo.com

    I don’t care if this bunch sends flames there or whatever…I can fix that.

  • Marybrayer

    Your experiences in life a very similar to mine. It’s very hard to fathom the blindness of the idiots on this website, their utter and total lack of knowledge and understanding of history. As I said earlier, they will make humble and loyal slaves for the Arabs. Have a nice day dear friend, I feel as if I’ve known you for many years. –

  • Anonymous

    You’re one sick puppy, WTF. I suggest you get some psychiatric help, since you are apparently champing at the bit to attack Iran, a bonehead, not to mention criminal, move that could well spell the end of “civilization” (such as it has sadly become). This is cutting off your nose to spite your face, albeit on an unconscionably vaster scale. In addition to anger management, you should also try to educate your ignorant, dangerous self.

  • Anonymous

    Leo, you’re far from alone, brother! The U$ has lost it, as is evident from this thread!The world’s a big place, and literally any government is better than what the U$ has developed. Too bad, but one must move on…

  • Anonymous

    still too many stupid americans buy the official myth about muslims attacking us on 9/11, israel must be laughing there sneaky,murdering,manipulating,apartheid, false flag asses off!

  • Anonymous

    yea, great idea! round up all the liberals into death camps maybe kill a few thousand liberals, oh, wait a minute, that might just backfire, a few years later liberals will claim you butchered 6 millioin liberals and now they need to take over north carolina and start there own country called libralisrael, they will treat the native north carolinians like criminals in there own country, then maybe they will steal nuclear secrets from the united states, take over the world bank, start every war possible and always claim victimhood, then they will start building settlements in south carolina and virginia, then to really compicate matters they will do some false flag terrorism,maybe fly some jets into disneyland and blame it on conservatives, get the whole world thinking conservatism means terrorism. carefull what you wish for!!!

  • Anonymous

    a perfect example of what comes out of the american education system, brainwashed idiot, incapable of thinking for yourself. easily programmed by multimillionaire errand boys for the new world order, rush limpdick and his buddy glen beck, both drug addicts, now swimming in money as long as they keep good american christonazis believing in fairy tales.anyone whos believes in evolution, please go the the american south, youl question evolution for sure, nothing there changes, ever! disgusting!

  • Marybrayer

    Yeah bob, people like you would have us surrender now to the persians. Why dont you go to Iran and live — I heard they like boys.

  • Anonymous

    You’re a fool. There is no reason to assume that every other country in the world has the same vile dreams of empire that haunt the U$. I can’t imagine any country in the world wanting to take over the U$, with its ignorant, superstitious population of uneducated, mindless sheep. In fact, I can’t imagine any American politician wanting to run the place for altruistic reasons. It’s a sad mess, and best avoided, as far as I can see…

  • Marybrayer

    The American system gives you the right to spew your opinion. Try doing that in Saudi Arabia of Iran.

  • Marybrayer

    I’m not defending the American people, I’m defending the constitution. There is truth in your words but if you let those “ignorant, superstitious, uneducated mindless sheep destroy the constitution, then you sir are culpable in destroying the country.

  • Anonymous

    That may well be, MB. I lived there until I was 45, and then left (in 1991) because I could see that it was all but over for the “American Dream.” I’m no longer interested in saving the constitution, as my race is pretty much run. I was just commenting on my conclusions to date. I commend you for fighting the good fight!

  • Marybrayer

    Thanks Bob. Your integrity is honorable and I respect your opinion. Best of luck to you my fellow American.

  • Anonymous

    If you’re ever passing through Prague look me up – we’ll bend an elbow!

  • Marybrayer

    Ok Bob. Thanks.

  • Anonymous

    I think your head would have made good brain housing if you had a brain that is.

  • Anonymous

    your mother

  • Anonymous

    Hey racist fucking pussy ass mother fucker, i left you message at your other racist hate fascist bigotted posts, i gave you my email and you can try and start with me!

    CMON MOTHER FUCKER TRY AND REMOVE ME FROM SOCIETY!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    YOU TOO MOTHER FUCKER nonyabiznis@gmail.com TRY AND MAKE ME A SLAVE PUSSY ASS PIECE OF SHIT!

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