This company gets protected by our hijacked government. The use dispersants so that a fine can not be accurately calculated.

THIS is what kind of government we have. We are a sad joke.

the 20th century DDT

2-butoxyethanol is also known as 1) ethylene glycol monobutyl ether, 2) ethylene glycol butyl ether, or 3) ethylene glycol n-butyl ether. The compound is not likely to bioaccumulate in living tissue but a carcinogen doesn’t need to bioaccumulate to induce or promote carcinogenesis.

However, bioaccumulation is not necessary for a compound to permeate living tissue. Aquatic organisms that are enveloped by contaminated water can be saturated with a toxic compound without the type of buildup necessary to be considered bioaccumulative.

That said, the toxic chemicals in oil and dispersants may react with chlorine in seawater to produce compounds that do, in fact, reach higher levels in an organism (e.g. shrimp, fish) than are found in the water surrounding them. We just don’t know enough about the reactions in the water column that may occur when millions of gallons of toxic chemicals are dumped into the marine environment.

Seafood sampling must be increased to look for compounds that we may not be now looking for and the frequency of sampling must be increased to reflect the breakdown characteristics of toxins. In other words, some of these pollutants may be present in seafood but will go unnoticed or unsampled if the frequency and spectrum of testing is inadequate.

At the same time, even if some of these poisons do indeed bioaccumulate, we may not be able to detect them until they reach toxic levels in organisms higher in the food web.

Moderate respiratory exposure to 2-butoxyethanol often results in irritation of mucous membranes of the eyes, nose and throat. Heavy exposure via respiratory, dermal or oral routes can lead to hypotension, metabolic acidosis, hemolysis, pulmonary edema and coma. The current ACGIH threshold limit value (TLV) for worker exposure is 20 ppm in the industrial atmosphere, which is well above the odor threshold of 0.4 ppm. Blood or urine concentrations of 2-butoxyethanol or its major toxic metabolite, 2-butoxyacetic acid, may be measured using chromatographic techniques to monitor worker exposure or to confirm a diagnosis of poisoning in hospitalized patients. A biological exposure index of 200 mg 2-butoxyacetic acid per g creatinine has been established in an end-of-shift urine specimen for exposed U.S. employees. -Wikipedia

fatty acids affects in living tissue, ‘liver spots’, etc. (?)

‘fatty acids’ affects, artifacts: ‘liver spots’ (?)

This is what fascism looks like. Corporations and government working hand in hand to make the most profits as possible while killing or screwing over the middle class American citizen. I used to be a big government liberal, but not anymore. The last ten years have shown me that the federal government cares nothing about the average American citizen.

Sorry, Rawstory. This is no exclusive. The information about how toxic Corexit is, has been available for DECADES. D E C A D E S.

The Europeans banned the use of any form of Corexit YEARS ago because of its toxic content. In addition, a simple Google search turns this up (see below), which I did AS THEY WERE SPRAYING the stuff into the Gulf.

We already knew that BP was going to hide the evidence. We already knew that the legacy of spraying Corexit was that the food chain would be disrupted for decades. We already knew that after the initial leak was plugged that the long term effects on HUMANS would go on for decades because within a couple of years, Gulf residents will go on fishing those waters despite the fact that we know that cancerous substances will be in the food chain for a generation. WE KNOW THIS ALREADY!!!!!!

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Corexit 9527, considered by the EPA to be an ***acute health hazard***, is stated by its ***manufacturer*** to be potentially harmful to red blood cells, the kidneys and the liver, and may irritate eyes and skin.[14][23] The chemical 2-butoxyethanol, found in Corexit 9527, was identified as having caused ***lasting health problems*** in workers involved in the cleanup of the Exxon Valdez oil spill.[24] According to the Alaska Community Action on Toxics, the use of Corexit during the Exxon Valdez oil spill caused people “respiratory, nervous system, liver, kidney and blood disorders”.[16] Like 9527, 9500 can cause hemolysis (rupture of blood cells) and may also cause internal bleeding.[4]

The Russians warned of this, and warn of other, even more dangerous legacies that the toxins will afflict us with for decades.

“Soylent Green is people!!!”

“Gulf seafood is deadly!!!”

DAH.

True, I’m not sure what they think is exclusive. I’ve been researching Corexit, when I first read it was being sprayed by BP, before the Coast Guard started spraying it.

The worst part about Corexit, which isn’t mentioned, but which any PhD Chemist, with a tox background understands, is that the Corexit also makes the carcinogens in the oil more bio-available to living tissue. So, Corexit actually increases the toxicity of oil to organisms, by enabling the polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons to be absorbed far more easily through the skin or respiratory system, accumulate in fatty tissue, various organs, traveling through your bloodstream and cells.

BP could care less about making the oil more available for microbes. The use of dispersants was primarily to hide the oil from the view of the public. They did not care that using dispersants would make the disaster far worse.

Doh!!! ?

the current federal bureaucracy is stacked with a number of reich wing employees and appointees going back to the grandfather of senility and stupidity, reagan… it will take a generation to purge these fucks from the system.

30 years of cronyism and stacking the federal bureaucracy with reich wing reptiles by the republicans gets you a dysfunctional and compromised government. all government slugs produce nothing and a significant number need to be kicked to the curb… perfect time to purge most of these fucks from the system.

This is called fascism, when the state (or feds) meld with private corporations to run things. The feds are covering up the damage caused by BP. BP it seems, was intentionally poisoning the Gulf and hence the citizens of our country. The feds to date have done nothing to bring these murderers to justice.

“Gulf oil dispersant contained extremely toxic carcinogen”

Picky, picky, picky . . . .

Was BP’s use of millions of gallons of the highly toxic Corexit really about money (avoiding fines) as some posters here suggest? Do we really believe that? Or is this just what some of us would like to believe, because what we strongly suspect is just too disturbing to seriously contemplate?

GM frankenfoods, neurotoxic vaccines, fluoridated water, psychotropic medications, chemtrails, and yes, Corexit in the Gulf are ALL part of the ‘soft kill’ eugenics war being waged against us, and you won’t escape it by pretending it’s not real. Yes, it’s the stuff of nightmares, and yes, it’s extremely disturbing to contemplate, but it is the reality we must face. They’re thinning the herd.

I love the “EXCLUSIVE” headline! “NOBODY else knows this!” “WE figured it out!!”

RAWStory – If you honestly believe that, you are as bad as FOX news!

Lockheed-Martin is contracted by the EPA to both the dispersant spraying AND the air quality monitoring. Astonishing, really, but the corruption and lies run deep.

http://www.lockheedmartin.com/data/assets/corporate/documents/LMToday_July10.pdf

“..contained extremely toxic carcinogen” Past tense? Used to? No longer does?

“Lockheed Martin
aircraft, including C-130’s and P-3’s, have
been deployed to the Gulf region by the
Air Force, Coast Guard and other govern-
ment customers to perform a variety of
tasks, such as monitoring, mapping and
dispersant spraying.”

“We got a call from EPA
within days of when the platform
fire occurred,” reports Dennis Miller,
a program manager at Lockheed
Martin Information Systems & Global
Solutions. “We immediately mobilized
equipment and people from Nevada,
New Jersey and North Carolina.”

““I think that our presence in the
area has been reassuring in and of itself.
Seeing the labs lets people know that the
air is being actively monitored and their
safety concerns are being addressed,” he
says, noting that the team expects to be
in the area for an extended period.
”

http://www.lockheedmartin.com/data/assets/corporate/documents/LMToday_July10.pdf

“But we really do believe that the dispersant is not likely to be present in the fish, particularly where there’s no oil present, Scott continued.”

Careful statement there, but still clumsy. First, it only mentions fish. Those that come back first (and will be the first to be tested) will have spent most of their life outside the area and will have had little time to accumulate toxins. It’s the unmentioned shellfish that I’d avoid (as did he).

Second, I love the qualifier, “where there’s no oil present”. Far as we know right now, there’s that foot deep layer at the bottom (where the shellfish live) that won’t be going away any decade soon. Seems to cover much of the entire area. As does the plume and the surface stuff, so it’s a bit disengenuous to say, “where there’s no oil present”. Kinda like saying, “Living on the sun is perfectly safe where there’s no radiation or heat present”.

It occurs to me, and maybe I’m just paranoid, but occurs to me that this dispersant thing may have been a convenient way for BP, or some other chemical company that paid BP, to dump all kinds of toxics out at sea. Who really knows what was dumped? Beats dumping them in a ditch somewhere.

These days I don’t get surprised by much.

Dear NOAA toxicologist John Stein & FDA spokeswoman Meghan Scott, and staffs, and children,

YOU are hereby invited by the Right Honorable BH Obama to join his family in a scrumptious shrimp feast on the shore of Pensacola. Not only local shrimp, but real blue crabs will be served, baked on the beach, and even sushi-style. Your children will play with Malia and Sasha in the ocean while you bump shoulders with you know who. He is happier than punch that you have backed his all-clear in the Gulf message, and thinks you deserve a big reward. RSVP is not an option. You must attend, and with your children, so that in three, five, ten years, you can appreciate how they, and you!, benefited from this once in a lifetime event. This time the President will actually swim in the Gulf, so bring your swim stuff. Everyone will get a picture.
See y’all there!!

No doubt that dirty rotten scandal is involved in a lot of this, on the other hand I don’t see people dropping like flies. Least not yet.

um…. we already knew this in April when they first started using it1?!?!?! This isn’t news, but it is pathetic that it’s just being reported now – EXCLUSIVE!

Thom Hartmann (.com) was telling us this within days

Which is why a D or an R in front of your name, doesn’t expose the FOREIGN and CORPORATE interests behind them.

We knew this back when I was still young. It was called the Exxon Valdez. It took way to long to get any money out of that half of Standard Oil and they are still finding tumor on the sea life because of the cancer causing chemicals they sprayed on everything to keep it out of sight of cameras.
It disgusts me people talk about anything that is happening as something new. I have seen all of this bullshit before, and if I look in the history books, I take at least some comfort that I am not the only man who will die with that agony burning in his chest. You’re being had, the same way I watched my parent being had, by crooks.

While I agreed with you and +1′d ya right off the bat, the reality is the headline is what get’s folks to read in the first place. If one teeny tiny part of anything they said is NEW, then it is technically EXCLUSIVE! in my opinion. Plus it confirms any mistake subliminally programmed into your mind on the logic of a) it’s toxic or b) it’s organic food to be drunken freely at least on the weekends…

There is a “low risk” of a very high cancer danger? Do the math! Wouldn’t it be better then to err on the side of the caution?

There is a “low risk” of a very high cancer danger? Do the math! Wouldn’t it be better then to err on the side of the caution?

There is a “low risk” of a very high cancer danger? Do the math! Wouldn’t it be better then to err on the side of the caution?

I miss Mr. Yuk.

BP didnt give a shit about what they used to cover up their fuck up. Corexit 9527 and Corexit 9500 is manufactured by another fascist corporation who has a board member who sit on both boards. Nice cozy arrangement. Win Win for all involved EXCEPT………………………………… the environment and regular non elite humans. Typical 21th century bullshit.

Also (thanks to whoever keeps linking to the donkey site):

“Under federal law, fishing is banned if oil is seen in the water.

This helps explain another reason for the use of the dispersant, Corexit, in unprecedented quantities. Because if there’s no oil “seen” in the water, Gulf fishermen by law can fish. And if Gulf fishermen can fish, then BP doesn’t have to pay them for sitting at home going slowly mad.”

Finding bad stuff in those fish would mean that there is a problem with the system.

Also (thanks to whoever keeps linking to the donkey site):

“Under federal law, fishing is banned if oil is seen in the water.

This helps explain another reason for the use of the dispersant, Corexit, in unprecedented quantities. Because if there’s no oil “seen” in the water, Gulf fishermen by law can fish. And if Gulf fishermen can fish, then BP doesn’t have to pay them for sitting at home going slowly mad.”

Finding bad stuff in those fish would mean that there is a problem with the system.

Also (thanks to whoever keeps linking to the donkey site):

“Under federal law, fishing is banned if oil is seen in the water.

This helps explain another reason for the use of the dispersant, Corexit, in unprecedented quantities. Because if there’s no oil “seen” in the water, Gulf fishermen by law can fish. And if Gulf fishermen can fish, then BP doesn’t have to pay them for sitting at home going slowly mad.”

Finding bad stuff in those fish would mean that there is a problem with the system.

2-butoxyethanol is the solvent in Windex and all sorts of other household products. See the wikipedia entry. There is no published study available on the internet showing that it is a “powerful carcinogen,” but it’s on the very long list of organic chemicals with which I avoid contact and inhalation.

Calm down and go read the wikipedia entry for this solvent, then go clean out your conventional household cleaning supplies in favor of “greener” alternatives. If you use anything but ammonia to clean your mirrors, windows, etc., you’ve exposed yourself to 2-butoxyethanol. I have yet to find a study showing this is a “powerful carcinogen.” Carcinogen, yes; powerful, who knows yet? One member of a very long list of organic compounds I avoid as much as possible.

Um ok, I guess i missed him completely. I have no clue what you mean

They’ve been reinjecting toxic waste into old petro wells for decades, and every regulatory body at the local, state, and federal level knows it.

obviously i replied a bit too quick. I googled it and found out what you meant. Actually I have been doing that drawing as graffiti on bathroom walls for over 35 years with “have a rotten day” under it. i didn’t realize it was put to good use like poison control lol

BP makes me sick to my stomach

The further you move away from euphemisms like “dispersant” the closer you get to reality. The first thing that all the people involved in this silly discussion, which is similar to me to discussing the competing science on the effects of tobacco smoke, is to start calling the stuff what it is, SOLVENT instead of dispersant.

The second point is that you have to stop relying on government or corporate (in this case basically the same) stooges for information and trying to corner them in press events whether public or private. The only way to determine what is in the two SOLVENTS is to get some samples of them and do an independent analysis to find out precisely what is in them.

I know barely a little about SOLVENTS having worked with them daily for only about a year many years ago, but at that point there were not that many and most of them contained the same general ingredients which were nearly all later found to be cancer causing whether inhaled or when they came in contact with the skin.

There have been plenty of stories since the Deepwater Horizon exploded and burned about the health problems suffered by those who either worked on the cleanup or were in the areas where the oil was and where the SOLVENT was sprayed. Most of these have involved hospital visits and other complications; the long term effects are basically unknown as are the ingredients in the two SOLVENTS.

There are no grounds for believing anything that is offered by said by BP or the government who have worked together to obfuscate everything involved with this underwater oil gusher from the daily amounts of oil gushing from the pipe to the possible hazards the oil and the SOLVENT represented. Given the record of co-operation between the government and BP and the unwillingness of the SOLVENT manufacturers to disclose the chemicals in the SOLVENTS we cannot believe anything said by either. We need an independent chemical analysis of these SOLVENTS. To claim that the ingredients in these SOLVENTS are similar to those in Windex is silly on its face; quantities matter. Hundreds of thousands of gallons of these solvents were sprayed daily for over 4 months on the Gulf of Mexico. I haven’t used a large bottle of Windex in the last five years.

“She also told Raw Story that noting some of the dispersant ingredients are in common household products is “a false assurance.”

Raid and Drano are common household products…

basically all I could think while reading this was “bleach is a household product but I don’t marinate my fish in it! FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF****”

I’m afraid that I’m under the impression that corporations are going to do whatever they want no matter what. BP was told to stop using the stuff if I’m not mistaken they went right ahead and did it anyways. The stuff was being injected into the stream coming right out of the well head.

It’s no shock to me that they’re going to do whatever they could do to cover themselves and not even consider the reaction to the ocean

The federal government is just a structure. The plutocrats that have taken over and occupy our government are our true enemy. The Plutes love to hear Americans say that the government is the enemy. This helps their agenda in destroying what is left of it.

At least they’re reporting it. I don’t see the point of ragging on RS. Comparing them to Fox is whacked.

EPA was ordered to say the air was fine in NYC right after 9/11

Wall Street profits must be paid

Oh noooo! BP (with help from the US Coastguard) used a dangerous poison to cover its tracks in the worst environmental disaster in U.S. history????? And now it’s probably poisoning marine life!!!!! I’m SHOCKED! SHOCKED!

This is fascism. The government completely tied to corporations. We are seeing the early effects. History indicates it gets worse. AND we cannot convict members of our government-they are above the law. There is no solution. It will end in disaster.

L-Low risk? Are you kidding? Am I the only one who knows that today’s household cleaners are all carcinogens?? Simple bleach (not bleach + ammonia) is the best ever cleaner/disinfectant. As I said before, Mother Nature is gonna be pissed when she sees the affects of these chemicals on Her animals and Her environment.

OMG, no one is surprised.

Just another beautiful day in the Greatest COUNTRY EVER!!!!!!!

Revolution NOW!

Oooops!

Damn, I spray Windex on everything.

Wow,

In 2008 NJ DEP was run by same whore who now runs federal EPA.

Shove enough money up any politician ass and he or she will say anything you tell them to say. This is also the reason why I won’t feed my cats any catfood with fish in it. I suspect that all the dead fish have been scooped up, sent to China and made into brand name catfood. It’s also the reason why I won’t eat any type of fish in any restaurant. I don’t trust it anymore.

Sometimes it take a catastrophic event to change people!
A plant based diet, (organic of course) is looking better & better :-)

I thought of that today. I went to the store and I saw fish cat food in the discount bin. I am guessing not many are buying it.

TheVenusProject.com and TheZeitgeistMovement.com

Zeitgiest addendum movie on youtube. It is about a resource based economy one that is not based on money and is for a sustainable future.

ONE! Why is this an “exclusive” report? Do you think we’re all that stupid and misinformed?

TWO! Why would it be a surprise that a company with total disregard for the environment evidenced by the fact that they engage in deep sea drilling, would all of a sudden care about finding a solution that “really fixes” their tragic and careless catastrophic accident?
Ofcourse their solution is all about expedience and damage control!! No matter the price to the “little people!!”END OF FUCKING STORY!!
THREE! No surprises here!

BP had OUR COAST GUARD SPRAYING THIS DISPERSANT. THAT IS HIGH TREASON of a government agency.

We picked up on the Corexit danger in July when our friends at Project Gulf Impact let us know that they were finding Corexit in the food chain. It’s an unmitigated disaster that keeps on coming:

http://thedonkeyedge.com/2010/07/27/just-when-you-thought-it-was-safe-to-go-back-in-the-water/

Very important stuff everyone should see.

you Yanks love to spray things…remember napalm and agent orange. Kids are still being born with arms missing, watch out for 50ft shrimps

Remember that Leukemia outbreak in the 80s near Boston?
Turned out that there was a high amount of solvlents near the groundwater source,
from a tannery. Something like 40% of peoples kids had leukemia and there was an unusually high stomach cancer level. A lawyer spent 7 years and millions of $ to prove it, and it was obvious from the start, but guess what. The corporations won in the end, and the lawyer was ruined.

You’re right. It’s like a bad cat spraying the furniture and it needs a kick in the ass and never, ever be allowed in the house.

were these chemicals outlawed,banned useage in Europe,northsea etc? why was it stored here? who authorized its use?

You voted for it.
I voted with my feet.

This is peddling fear to stupid people. The IARC says:
There is inadequate evidence in humans for the carcinogenicity of 2-butoxyethanol.
There is limited evidence in experimental animals for the carcinogenicity of 2-butoxyethanol.
Overall evaluation
2-Butoxyethanol is not classifiable as to its carcinogenicity to humans (Group 3).

http://www.inchem.org/documents/iarc/vol88/volume88.pdf

Try vinegar on the mirrors wiped-off with a newspaper. Amazing.

More people need to attend shop class in High School, perhaps it should be a requirement. Corrext me if I’m wrong but I understand Corexit to basically be Carburetor Cleaner. Have you ever used Carb Cleaner to clean a greasy car part? It works great, it is probably the best cleaner for cleaning parts, but it’s also extremely toxic. It doesn’t take a scientist to know this. Your nose will know and if you get some on a cut it will sting real bad. If Obama had been at least a little bit of a gear head he would have known this. He probably knew this anyway and should have asked about it… I’m assuming that he is responsible for allowing the U.S. Coast Guard to spray the bazillions of gallons of that crap. All to head off a bad PR campaign against BP because oil on the beaches would be a terrible photo op for BP. Now we will pay. So is Obama to blame or is it Thad the retired Coast Guard Admiral? Buck sort of stops at the Commander in Chief… I wanna give the Prez a break, I really do, but this might be worse than spraying Agent Orange (brought to you by Monsanto…) in VietNam and look at the results that still linger from that! Gee, why are cancer rates so high?

Stupid people? You’re insulting anyone who might worry that BP’s toxic chemicals are toxic?
Say, you wouldn’t be a BP shill, would you?

And no one’s gone to jail for that crime.

Inadequate evidence + limited evidence = not classifiable

You sold me. Where can I get some GOM shrimp?

Scary. The FDA needs a better depth of knowledge???? HOLY crap, they need to know before it’s used AND they say they aren’t sure how much was used? BS – if they “ran” out, filled up planes and poured it into the ocean, who is filling up the tanks? Are they mysterious, ever changing tanks holding this toxic fluid? HOW can it NOT be in the fish? It’s in the air, Ocean and everything around, it’s like someone sneezed, we around that sneeze get the germs, and we are supposed to just say OK? No. Don’t think so…NOW WHAT? really? Jersey Shores continues? UGH!

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