This is very disturbing. If you are against perpetual war you will be harrassed by the F.B.I.. Now why, I have to ask myself, would this be permitted by a president who recieved the Nobel Peace Prize?

Finally I have to believe it was a bogus award.

Fascists

Unfortunately Obama hasn’t made nearly enough changes in several agencies, so there are a lot of embedded GOP loyalists that use their positions for political purposes, hence the trying to quash open organized dissent against right-wing policies, like war.

I bet the FBI isn’t raiding many Tea Party or NRA organizers’ homes.

Another day in the life of Soviet Amerika. I wonder if Putin is giving the DOJ advice over the phone?

Oh, I’m sure Beloved Leader knows what’s best. You do love Beloved Leader, don’t you, citizen?

Ron, the Nobel Peace Prize is a biased political vehicle and a fraud worth less than the toilet paper I use. You may well recall that the internationally renown terrorist, the deceased, Palestine Arafat also received the Nobel Peace Prize.

Hi, we represent Big Brother and we are here with concerns about your ideology. Are your ID papers in order or would you rather we scan your chip implant ?

Okhrana, OVRA, GRU, Savak, FBI – hemlock by any other name is still … .

Okhrana, OVRA, GRU, Savak, FBI – hemlock by any other name is still … .

Bush, Putin and Obama looked into one another’s eyes and instantly became soul brothers.

As strongly anti-war as I have become, I guess I am a Terrorist. I hope Obama issues a Presidential Order to assasinate me. I want to be the first person executed by his own President on my block

Shouldn’t you be investigating actual war criminals. It’s not like there is a shortage. It’s clear the FBI has either very poor management, probably a given, or way to much staff. Either way management needs to be reprimanded and staff reassigned to real work.

It is far more likely that the FBI who conducted these raids are the suspects linked to terrorism. Maybe the Chicago and Minneapolis anti-war groups weren’t interested in participating in an FBI informant induced terrorist attack?

FBI: “You mean you won’t take this fake or real bomb that we want to give to you and try to blow up something for us?”

What? There’s an “antiwar movement?” In Amerika? Really? Besides Code Pink, where exactly might a “movement” be? The A.N.S.W.E.R. Coalition and UFPJ shot each other dead in a famously insidious duel of titantic egos clashing. The collateral damage left the few remaining survivors confused and they drank the Obama Koolaid then collapsed in a deranged coma. Students For Democracy In Action lost their ‘student loans’ and joined the Joe ‘zionista’ Biden campaign for perpetual war as long as “we” don’t have to fight.
“Antiwar movement?” C’mon, what was the FBI REALLY searching for? Evidence of “pro Palestinian” involvement? Cause you know, the next flotilla to Gaza is gonna be sank on sight courtesy of the Israeli Pirate Navy with material support from the U.S. Navy providing “cover” for piracy on the International High Seas.
Antiwar movement? Really?

This shows exactly how the masses are being treated under a NON Democratic Government. There is no Democracy if the political elite meet each year to make plans and none of it gets passed to congress or shown in the media. How on earth can the FBI consider anti-war activists connected with terrorism when ANTI-WAR is the same thing as PEACE. Terrorists do not want peace but anti-war activists want peace.
They are behaving exactly the same way children do when they are suspected of telling lies….the child tries to put the blame on their kid brother to take the suspicion away from themselves and that is exactly what the FBI/Bilderberg/Skull & Bones/Bohemian Grove/Council on Foreign Relations/United Nations are trying to do.
Aaron Russo when interviewed by Alex Jones, said that 11 months prioir to 911 Nicholas Rockefeller told him that they were planning on inventing a war on terror and sending their troops into Iraq. It has also surfaced that the minerals they claim to have recently discovered in Afghanistan they have known about since the 1970′s! Basically they are wanting the masses to pretend we don’t see their lies! It is absoltely ASTOUNDING how masterfully networked the Illuminati are and how they have got away with it!!!!!!!

CIA FBI MOSSAD KGB–you all are welcomed to my home–even my pooch yaps outload–Jewus did , Juice did it , Joos did it,He hasn’t got it right and hang of it yet but my Love Bird has–Jew’we did 9/11 attacks–Tweet Tweet. Try arresting them and all can cart out all antsemiPoop littering their cages :^/

We heartily welcome non-English speakers here. Welcome, geo1671! Keep studying, you’ll get it!

Who said COINTELPRO was dead again?

So did Henry Kissinger

I’m sure that the FBI & the Justice Dept feel emboldened by the recent Supremely Stooopid Court decision that says even offering advice on how to become NON-VIOLENT or how to negotiate a peace agreement is considered aid to terrorists!

You better hope the NEOCON’s don’t get back in the White House or you might just get your wish. They are a sick group of sadists who would not lose a night of sleeep over your passing!

The beatings will continue until morale improves.

This is what happens when you let bankster fraudsters dictate both foreign policy and “national security”. End the Federal Reserve and shutter the CFR if you want to keep America free.

PROTESTERS = TERRORISTS?!Anyone see a slight problem in this country? Instead of wearing blue and black uniforms, the pigs should be wearing BROWN and trained to “goose step” into the homes they INVADE!!!

Henry Kissinger, renowned mass murder…but he only murdered for peace!

Good point, thank you.

It is almost universally felt that when we call a country democratic we are praising it; consequently, the defenders of every kind of regime claim that it is a democracy, and fear that they might have to stop using the word if it were tied down to any one meaning…

…George Orwell

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I’m a Vietnam combat vet and a anti-war protestor. I worked to help end the Vietnam war and if I was a young person out there today I would be helping to end these illegal and pointless wars today. What you have to understand is that the FBI is a often a criminal organization in support of a government, ours, that is a fascist empire mascarading as a benign guardian of “morality” in the world. What our government actually is is a corporate controlled plutocracy dedicated to moving as much wealth from the masses to a handful of elite that have long controlled things.

Now that you have posted your wishes you may get what you want.

Meet the new jackboots; same as the old jackboots.

This is sick.

Wait until they’re able to scan the thoughts and dreams of millions of our citizens…the detention camps will overflow.

Beware Justin Raimondo and Antiwar.com. This site reports the facts about the evil empire and the day to day casualty figures. God bless him but he should be very careful.

Makes sense. The purpose of the war is to Keep America Secure From Terrorists ™. Anti-war actions including protests are therefore anti-American and could instill terror.

Nother way to look at it: If the war protesters were successful it would expose the dangers to American that are the war machine. Sure, that would be a good thing in the long run, but it could instill a lack of confidence, which means fear, and that says, “terror”. Ergo, they are terrorists.

A democracy is the most tyrannical form of government and the founding father’s knew it which is why they gave us a representative republic…now if I can just find out where we laid it…

A democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what’s for dinner, a republic would have the sheep well armed.

Or maybe they are simply on a fishing expedition to see how far the opposition has gotten in their investigations/plans/organizational growth, etc. Welcome to the United States of Absolute Tyranny and Twisted Semantics.

Get back in? Whaddid somebody go out for lunch?

Vee haff vays!!

More Eric Holder unconstitutional bullshit.
If Obama wants to be regarded with the same disdain that Bush was… only by BOTH SIDES, then he needs to fire Eric Holder.

So is Eric Holder going to sic his stormtroopers on Amy Goodman again?

They’re seeking evidence relating to activities concerning the
“material support of terrorism”.
Well, what about this polyester suit? Or this Gingham dress?
The cocaine was OK, because it was a CIA-product.

If you wish our government didn’t act so STUPID all the time,
you might just be a turoris’.

In a book about the former Soviet Union this would make a good joke
about the state’s stupid thought-police.
But I’m not laughing, here in the land of the free.

Just imagine the Kill Lists they will be able to assemble from those hard drives.
Pentagon, CIA and the Mossad should compete heavily for them at the auction!
Oh, Happy Days!! Bonuses for everyone!

Breaking News!!
Huge BBQ tonight, at 935 Pennsylvania Avenue Northwest, Washington, D.C.
Bring your own hand cuffs.

The Homeland Securitet’s Office of Pre-Crime is working on it.

When Nixon was in office, he used the FBI as his own private arm to harass his enemies. And Hoover himself use them to dig up dirt on those he did not like. Especially looking for homosexuals. Funny considering the fact he was one himself. The FBI also target peace groups during Vietnam.

The FBI began targeting anti-war activists when the war first started under Bush. And it sounds as if they are still at it. The new America is different. We consider wanting peace and demonstrating for peace to be anti-military and anti-American. We do little but war anymore. And if you suggest there might be a better alternative, say diplomacy etc. Then Fox network, or any on the right will invariably say you hate the troops.

It cannot be true of course that wanting to keep the military alive and out of illegal and unnecessary wars, means you want to bring them home or save lives. Those that appreciate war the most are those who not only never served but have no one they love is serving. It is much easier to send others to die. Welcome to third world America, where wars both secret and others are standard for us. As peace loving people are the enemy.

War allows some in our society to flex their muscle, verbally and to strut politically. But that part is easy. It costs them nothing. There has not been a reason for war since WW2. The tough work is finding peace. It is much easier to fire the gun, then to search out peace. I am not a pacifist. What I am is one who is fed up with war. The expenditure of lives, and money.

I see a bleak future for us. Our only commitment seems to be to war and chaos. It is an uphill fight to try and wrest peace, from the hands of those who see war as a first choice instead of a last one.

This all started before Obama was even elected. Anybody remember THE PATRIOT ACT that was overwhelmingly passed and had popular support? As long as it was aimed at someone else people seemed to be okay with it despite the dire warnings that it would be turned on the rest of the nation. The road to hell is indeed paved with good intentions. Before all the right wingers start cheering that the left is in the government’s gunsights again, remember you’re next.

The short term solution being touted by many is to get rid of Holder. The real solutions iare to get rid of the Patriot Act, return to our civil liberties which have been deemed dispensable because we are at war and get us out of Afghanistan and Iraq before we further bled in terms of our soldiers’ blood and our national treasure.

If the Senate Republicans would do their jobs, they should have approved appointments and federal judge nominations, we wouldn’t be having this problem. But as time goes on, we are seeing that this behavior is not being negatively reinforced if you get my drift. I’m only hoping the dems will get their campaign gears in motion to remain in the majority.

the new american police state flexing its muscles, im sure all of our comments are being watched by uncle scam these days…..FUCK EM!

You can get a search warrant for a fishing expedition?

Shouldn’t there be enough evidence already accumulated that the warrant will provide evidence for an arrest?

there is absolutely nothing new about this. This is been going on since the days of Mr. Dick Nixon. And probably well before. I have to think this kind of thing is separate from whoever is president or whatever party is in power, the CIA just does what it wants to do

….”Nationwide FBI terrorism raids target anti-war activists”….

If you have been against war and in a coma since 1961, and just woke up, they are still after you. Go back to sleep.

I tried to warn you guys. I tried to tell you that this is what was going to happen. But ya’ll just sat back and told me to get my tin hat out. You just sat there and laughed at the destruction of the Constitution, the Country, and Man. Great job!

it’s like the gop’s “plague on america” – same old shit our police state did in the 60s – and swore they wouldn’t again with new rules … frikkin liars … its just a revamped military-industrial-complex on steroids – new and improved and infused with the incarceration industry and the corporate mainstream media industry … the entire system, from your p.t.a. to your right to work to your supposed representation and constitutional protection in d.c., is a complete broken promise!

arise and awake!

All true.

The only thing you left out was party affiliation.

Everything you described is the Republican policy platform, has been for decades.

This is an ultra-conservative issue, which sorry, falls under the GOP tent.

The Dems are trying to turn back the tide, but its far from easy.

Their house is bugged with voice and video and externally under surveillance, the organization has been infiltrated, their cell phone conversations, texts, and emails have all been recorded as are ours and every other Americans and I’m sure this website.

And they need a search warrant for what? Probably just adjusting the video and audio equipment. LOL.

Welcome to the new and improved “bushed america”.

Oh, give it a rest already!

That’s why Obama left Mueller at the FBI?

That’s why Obama left Gates as SecDef?

That’s why he stuck Mr. Chiquita, also known as Eric Holder, as AG? And what has Holder done so far? Jail Bradley Birkenfeld for trying to expose those super-rich politicians who are tax evaders in Lichtenstein?

Whether it’s Rahm and the dems, or Cheney and the R-Cons, it appears to be the samo…samo!

Oh, give it a rest already!

That’s why Obama left Mueller at the FBI?

That’s why Obama left Gates as SecDef?

That’s why he stuck Mr. Chiquita, also known as Eric Holder, as AG? And what has Holder done so far? Jail Bradley Birkenfeld for trying to expose those super-rich politicians who are tax evaders in Lichtenstein?

Whether it’s Rahm and the dems, or Cheney and the R-Cons, it appears to be the samo…samo!

Milton Friedman and Henry Kissinger both received that bogus Nobel Prize.

That should convince anyone of its bogusness…

Milton Friedman and Henry Kissinger both received that bogus Nobel Prize.

That should convince anyone of its bogusness…

I am against the war. So what do you want Feebee’s? No need to steal my stuff. Hell, I’ll happily hand over my plans to get us out of Afghanistan-no warrant needed. (Please use it!)

And they do absolutely nothing when Teabaggers come to rallies w/ shotguns….ya…right..hypocrites

Don’t forget when the Republicans were ramping-up the two current unfunded wars, they were also voting successfully for reducing veteran benefits at the same time. That was a first in US history. And they dind’t just cut the VA once, they did it twice. (defunding) Yeah, the GOP really supports the troops, bullshit.

I was always amazed that the MSM didn’t point out the context or the contradictions.

After their no-bid contracts to their friends at many times the normal cost, & cutting Vet benefits, while creating huge deficits, & then giving tax cuts to the rich, which is just off the top of my head, why does any rational person want to defend these failed & corrupt Republican policies?

Has disinformation propaganda taken over US politics?

Are facts no longer important to voters?

Don’t forget when the Republicans were ramping-up the two current unfunded wars, they were also voting successfully for reducing veteran benefits at the same time. That was a first in US history. And they dind’t just cut the VA once, they did it twice. (defunding) Yeah, the GOP really supports the troops, bullshit.

I was always amazed that the MSM didn’t point out the context or the contradictions.

After their no-bid contracts to their friends at many times the normal cost, & cutting Vet benefits, while creating huge deficits, & then giving tax cuts to the rich, which is just off the top of my head, why does any rational person want to defend these failed & corrupt Republican policies?

Has disinformation propaganda taken over US politics?

Are facts no longer important to voters?

Hey, this kind of thing has been going on in these United States since the Pinkerton national detective agency started their file on writer Mark Twain and his Anti-Imperialist League.

When the GOp-Baggers get complete control again we will see this type of search conducted by the Xe’s of the world. This is the result of Reguns Revolution and the removal of Regulations on the Media and it’s ownership.

W T F ? Is this no reason to keep the guns greased.

“…They’re seeking evidence relating to activities concerning the material support of terrorism.”

And they need look no further than their own agency to find it. Look at the way they helped in the cover up of the crimes of 9-11

What they’re doing here is pure intimidation, nothing else. They don’t want what is now widely known to be the illegal invasions/occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan to be universally denounced and protested the way Vietnam was. They want to scare people into staying home and keeping their big mouths shut. Media has been directed to report the raids so everyone will know — protest the war and we might just come and turn your house upside down.

What this tells us, as if we didn’t already know, is that our Zionist shadow government has no intention of ever allowing our troops to come back home.

We gotta get rid of Bush…..the Neocons want us to live in a Police State. I can’t believe the Bushista Government is STILL harassing American citizens that protest these ridiculous wars!!!!!!

No MORE BUSH!!!!

Wait………….

Who’s country is this, anyway? Actually, I’m afraid of the answer to that.

A lot of people weren’t, and aren’t laughing. The options for doing anything about this are limited when all the legal channels have been degraded. Many of us saw the writing on the wall (and on the books) with the P.A.T.R.I.O.T. act. Only Feingold had the courage to vote against it. Everyone else in government was either acting like a scared kid, or was in on the deal.

Oooh! Chickenhawk on a pitchfork, cooked over a torch! My favorite! thanks for the invite!

We are at war with Minnesota. We have always been at war against Minnesota.

Well, I’ve got news for Ole Barack Obush. I’m not just going to sit out the next election. I’m going to vote against him. At least the Republicans are honest enough to call themselves Republicans.

Indeed.

The Police State rolls on. The current Fuhrer, Barrack Obama …. seems a lot like George W. Bush.

and most of them have been re-elected since then.

And THAT is _T_ H_ E _ Problem.

Everything else is just a symptom.
Until the electorate gets their head out of their asses and start to get as vocal and involved as some of the backassward 3rd world countries do. Then there will be NO change.

I’m always amazed when you see in some of the “less democratic” countries people still have the balls to riot in the streets, go on strike and generally let their elected officials know when the are pissed. Here… we just write angry posts on the internet.

Is the “change we can believe in?”

If you think the Dems are bad and not worth your vote, wait until the repugs get control again.

Kiss any social program goodby, any right to control your own body, any hope of medical care, and even the slightest bit of government control over big business.

Yes sir, folks! Life will be a holiday then!

Thanks to the Shrub and the Vice-Horsethief planting their own guys into our government, and then changing their status so that they are now career employees and not simply political appointees that can be removed at the will of any future President, there are now anti-Obama moles in our governmental agencies that continue to do the bidding of the previous Misadministration. That CANNOT be argued.

But obviously, it also cannot be proven that these policies are not simply being continued by the current President.

It makes no sense to jump to the conclusion of the latter, without taking into consideriation the very real possibility of the former.

Welcome to Muddy Waters.

I think the reporter meant to say the Republican national convention in St. Paul two years ago. Not the Democratic National Convention.

St. Paul was filled to the brim with storm-troopers from all over the country… In fact, the Republicans might have just been there to cheer for the National storm-troopers on growth hormone convention.

This kind of stuff is exactly why many Minneapolis residents don’t want the Democratic convention here. Learning people are still on lists and being harassed after two years might make some think the US has a chill on political activists who aren’t throwing millions of dollars at politicians, like the “people” protected under the “Citizens United” ruling.

America has been a police state since 9/11. Not surprising really.

“anti-Obama moles” ?

it’s called oBUSHma. His ADMIN, HIS Decision. by now anyone who does not think oBUSHma=GWB is living in DENIAL.

wakey wakey

Think Patriot Act.

“Are facts no longer important to voters?’

Well, your facts seem to want to paint blue as a more favorable color than red when neither of them are any good for us and continue on with the global agenda using our blood and treasure. If the “Change” mantra hasn ‘t become tinnitus by now, it is possible you haven’t woken up to the fact that the same star chamber sends us our “candidates” to choose from each four years. Kinda hard to see “Change” when it is the same cabal that chooses the candidates that is running “The Agenda” and for years now, nothing has stood in its way.

It’s not that “facts aren’t important to voters” it’s that voters are immaterial to the agenda. Red…B;lue…continuation of the agenda…try another color.

Kissinger killed for power. Did you forget Allende?

Arafat fought for his people. Powerless people in the face of one of the most powerful armies.

Parts 1, 2, and 3.

In the mid 70′s the FBI came around knocking on doors looking for people who might be supporting “Wounded Knee”. The FBI took pictures of Viet Nam war protesters. Is Richard Nixon back in the White House?

Damn, Minneapolis is dope. I love the 612.

No. Sorry. That’s on the White House Gala menu. This is pure chicken.

That’ll sure show that Obama a thing or two.

Yup. Forget this partisan nonsense — both parties are out to kill us, rob us, and rape us — and they arent taking orders from anyone but the ultra elite.

Follow the money all the way to the Fed Reserve. Focus there, not on the debates they manufacture for you. We’re giving more and more of the fruits of our labor to these people, and they turn around and use it for nefarious ends– essentially forcing us to finance our own destruction.

Fuck the FBI. What a waste of Tax money. Shouldn’t they be doing something constructive. I guess the powers at be will brook no questioning or challenges to their immoral wars.

Greetings,

I think both parties are useless but the Republicans might accelerate the collapse a bit quicker. yeah, I can’t wait until they cut all the social programs and the people riot in the streets. It will end much like the French Revolution.

Yup, go out and vote Republican as it will probably cut the wait time in half.

Nazi cunts.

Let me get this straight…the people who were searched hadn’t broken any laws and the FBI had no clear idea what they were even looking for, and Generalissimo Borat O’bama sat with his thumb in his ass and allowed these things to happen on his watch?

FREE AMERICA

DIRECT DEMOCRACY

Thats what you get for voting for Kerry and Obama.

Maybe you should have voted for Bush when you had the chance.

You voted for Obama. You get the doverment you deserve.

You voted for Obama. You get the doverment you deserve.

Yes because everyone knows Bush staged the Obama Presidency. We heard rumors behind the scenes about Bush sr selecting Obama to be the next President to take the heat off his son and put it on a black man. If you believe that, thats why the FBI is watching you.

If you want to make yourself useful why don’t you find out what political party is popular amongst the FBI. What if the FBI persons heading this operations are Republicans?

And because you made the mistake of posting this on Rawstory, along with many previous posts, now you are being watched as well. Don’t you know the FBI has infiltrated Rawstory and the internet?

LOL arrest the democrats! I’m sure they smoke a lot of pot and the election is coming up.

The FBI was probably unable to infiltrate and convince them to bomb something.

He couldn’t have voted for bush, he has a soul!

Vote for your local socialist party. If that makes you queasy at least vote Green. Enough pretending like any gains made by Republicans are significant enough to tolerate this

Mick Kelly and Jess Sundin

Two names I’ve never heard before, but why am I not surprised?

If they are leaders of the anti-war movement, then where do I sign up and what do they propose to do about it?

C’mon, there was no way to predict that Obama would be this bad?

I saw him do and say some bad things like when he voted to amend FISA–heck, he probably voted for the patriot act and/or one of its successors–or when he said the Afghan war was the Good War or when he announced Hillary for Sec of State or when he announced the day after his election that he was keeping Gates, Petreaus and Mullen, I knew things were bad, but I never thought he would be as bad as Bush.

What’s funniest of all is that I was one of those people who told everyone willing to listen that we cannot give Obama time because I knew it was actually the opposite and the first 100 days were crucial (ask any historian) and I hate to be the one to say I told you but look where it’s gotten us. In fact, there are still people urging us to give him more time; they are the same ones who today say it has only been 20 months. The truth is Obama should impart a lesson to all those who voted for him: demand criminal prosecutions of our politicians and corporate officers. Let’s send them to prison and strip them of their fortunes.

I liked what you said Leo but the truth is probably that America has been a police state (or rather a military dictatorship) long before 9/11, at least since Reagan with his Contra rebels but probably the truth is closer to America has been a fascist state since at least since the end of WW 2, however, I’d then be leaving out the whole 19th century when the government always protected the rich from the poor; and don’t forget slavery was a government sanctioned policy.

[...] one of thousands—I don’t think our civil liberties are “stronger” since 9/11. In fact, just today, antiwar and social justice activists had their homes raided in all parts of this country… I resent having to, for all intents and purposes, walk nude throughout airport security and I [...]

Obama runs nothing. America is owned by Wall Street. Soldiers don’t fight and die and kill for America. They fight and die and kill for Wall Street. Wall Street owns the CIA, the FBI and the Pentagon. You cannot even vote the bastards out because they were never elected in the first place. Meanwhile you have pretend elections run on fake voting machines owned by Wall Street that elect powerless dupes and idiots into meaningless positions of powerlessness.

Dude, hope you are sobering up or as you might say, jyuce, jewus, did it. durp durp burp di durp.

Obama? You think he has even a grain of power in these matters? He, like all before him, are PUPPETS.

you know, there’s nothing funnier than a delusional naive. you might want to check which candidate had the MOST amount of Wall.St. backing during 2008 Pres.cycle. oBUSHma had MORE $$ from Wall St. banksters than McNut or GWB ever did. you might also want to run down how many in his cabinet are from GoldmanSUX.

one should really ridicule your utter ignorance, but really, at this juncture in history, if you cannot figure out this much, I feel sorry for you.

truly pathetic. keep making excuses, ’cause like neokunt Rove, I’m sure if you repeat it often enough the reality may just bend toward your delusions.

NOT.

Bush? Are you saying he should have ran a third time?

Really? And you are ‘in the know’ huh, smart guy? It’s called public information and so what if they are reading-maybe it will make them think about what is really going on and begin to act like Americans. Stop trying to shut people up from expressing their views, spouting your own brand of propaganda on this open forum.

uh, this joke is really really really stale by now… although it’s still a sure hit with 84 year old teabaggers. If you want to put it to good use, take it to your nearest geriatric golf course and maybe some of the old farts will laugh themselves to death.

Good Gawd, I hope someone is watching you, considering the whacked out statements you have posted-even if its only your mother. FBI needs to do a better job of watching their own, instead of people who don’t like the war-which is about 85% of the country, at this point …http://www.abc27.com/global/story.asp?s=13211944

Former FBI agent charged with another peeping incident

Former FBI agent Ryan Seese, 36, now faces two counts of invasion of privacy. Former FBI agent Ryan Seese, 36, now faces two counts of invasion of privacy.

A former FBI agent who was already convicted of spying on a 14-year-old girl inside a bathroom at Hershey Middle School is facing even more charges.

Where’s that Bill Ayers connection when we need it? Didn’t Beck/Palin assure as that Obama was in league with anti-war terrorists? Another promise broken! More hope dashed!

Raiding the homes of the anti-war movement? Brings back the 1960s! These FBI thugs are not to be trusted!

Have you noticed? There always seems to be some people in here trying to stir up the pot by posting nonsense. But we welcome them because they have differing opinions. But, try posting on a conservative site some liberal viewpoints and they get censored in a flash and then you’re banned from said site.

Saying Boosh was a good president is like saying drinking poison is good for your health. Shrub and his cronies not only fucked up this country, they spit on the flag and the constitution, they peed on our heads and told us it was raining, they raided the federal reserve, they killed innocent civilians and US soldiers (yes, innocent US soldiers were sent to war based on lies when Iraq posed no threat to America), they laughed at homeless vets, they outed CIA agents (treason), if you wore a t-shirt that was negative against Dubya and/or Cheney, you were either arrested or told to remove the shirt anywhere you were, even in airports. You weren’t allowed to demonstrate anywhere near McMonkey, you had to be in the next block over.

I mean it went on and on and on and on… We’re in worst shape now as a country than we have ever been in my lifetime (I was born in the mid-fifties) because of an idiot that thought he was a dictator.

Yet, we still have people that really and truly believe that McDumbass did this country good. If only they’d realize that McFuhrer also fucked them up but good.

Warrants can now be procured without justification. All that is necessary it that the magic word, “terrorism”, be invoked.

Ever since the Civil Rights and Vietnam War Protests the real power players in the United States have been taking notes and consolidating, much like our International Corporations. I am in my early 50s and remember the impact of the 60s was a profound cynicism and there was less intertwining of Media and Corporate/political tentacles. This story of Raids on Anti-War Groups is no surprise, but it does break my heart along with each step from the moment the 9/11 event happened. I agree with others on this board that the current President is beholden to the Power Interests, who could care less about Labels, as long as our Government remains in their pocket!!!!!!

Ya think? Hell I’m probably on the no-fly list

Whatever happened to the Mafia? Have they dissolved into the ethers? The FBI used to have the balls to go after organized crime. Now they go after the low hanging fruit because organized crime is too powerful for them, and are probably in partnership with the GOP.

What? You’re asking for Justice? I think it’s more important to note what the DOJ DOESN’T do that what it does. This “looking forward” theme is utter BS. “Looking forward” meant that Obama made a deal: Hands off the Bush crime family. If you go after them, they’ll go after you.

There’s a false premise here for making Obama into a victim. Just as Bush reclassified some positions as permanent, Obama can reverse those decisions by using the same executive powers that Bush used. He hasn’t. And he hasn’t fired a slew of federal prosecutors who truly deserved to be fired.

Obama said that he’s not perfect, that he’ll make mistakes along the way. He didn’t say that he wouldn’t correct those mistakes.

It doesn’t matter who is in power. The history of the United States has always attacked dissenters of war.

Woodrow Wilson campaigned as a pacifist and won. He then flip flopped, hired a Public Relation firm to change the publics attitude about war. The firm did to the Kaiser what the modern firm did to Saddam which is painted this picture of evil dictators eating babies. Many American Germans were put into prison because these Germans saw through the public relation bs. These Germans not long ago were pardoned even though they are all dead.

In WWII the problem of desertion was so bad that the government changed the rules a drafted ex-cons. One of these ex-cons known as Private Slovak did what everyone else did but unlike anyone else he was put before the firing squad. A dark chapter in the history of the United States. note: Historian Howard Zinn confessed he was duped by the real nature of WWII.

After WWII the problem of recruitment was so bad that the only way to get men for the military during the peace time was to continue the draft. This is where Vietnam became even more interesting that the disserters of WWII. Vietnam was unique in that rather than dissertion there was anti-war rhetoric being spoken out loud by the very soldiers themselves. That’s right an anti-war movement within the military. note: the reason the weathermen were never prosecuted was because they broke into an FBI office and found evidence of the FBI spying on the anti-war movements.

Also note two wars during the fifties just before Vietnam. A Public Relation firm was hired by the White House to convince the people that our military was needed in Guatemala. The firm lied by claiming we need to fight the communists in Guatemala. The real reason was the country wanted their banana plantation back. A private company from the United States claimed to own 80 per cent of Guatemala’s banana plantation and the United States used the military to protect that private companies interest from and otherwise soverign country which had the right to those plantations.

And just before Vietnam was the Korean War. Millions of innocent people were killed in villages for no other reason than the fact they live in Korea. There deaths was senseless.

Ho Chi Mihnn had every right to kick out the French colonist just as the Algerians had kicked out the French in the 1960′s. President Johnson lied this nation into a war in Vietnam. Again it was a war of choice and not a war of defense.

Reagan murdered thousands in Nicaragua. Again an agression of choice and had nothing to do with defense.

Gulf I was also bs. Gilipse lied. She claimed Saddam never told her about a possible conflict with Kuwait. A tape released to the NY times proved otherwise. Instead of using diplomacy to clear up the communication problem, Dick Cheney, yes that’s right our own Darth Vader stopped all diplomatic effort and sought immediate military conflict against U.N guide lines. The Prince of Kuwait hired an American Public Relation firm to do a smear job on Saddam, see WWI above.

Gulf II needs no explanation, we were without doubt lied into a war of choice there.

In all the cases above war protestors has been damaged our Government via being imprisoned or having their reputation tarnished. In all cases the protests never changed the policies. In all cases the protesters turned out to on the right side of the argument.

For years ive been saying this “national security” apparatus is pointed at us.
The most common response, “if you’re not doing anything wrong, then you have nothing to worry about”.

It looks like History is repeating itself in a high-tech way.

The 3 best Feds ever, were Hoover, Tolson and Purvis. Two were Tranny Pedophiles and one swallowed his own Revolver, how cool is that?

This is no longer about ‘antiwar movement’ types. This is about corporate fascism. What the federal thugs did, should ignite a firestorm of protest all across this nation. 9/11/01 the “official” story is bullshit. Afghaniscam is bullshit. Iraq and the wmd’s is bullshit. America is turning into police state central and left, right, middle-of-the-road should be scared into action. The ‘goons’ are coming for you. Make no mistake about that. Why do you think the Obama messiah has never closed Guantanamo?
October 2, 2010 Washington D.C.! Be there and wear your boots. EVERY last American has that Constitutional right to be safe from illegal search and seizure. Oh wait, we sold our “rights” in the wake of 9/11. That’s some sad bullshit there boy.

We need to show our support for the Feds by Visiting our local FUSION CENTERS as often as possible and Observing and getting to know each and every person who comes and goes and Shaking their hands and offering them a Hug as a way of saying thanks for protecting our great way of life. God bless America.

A total waste of time, and probably a violation of civil rights, imho. It should be obvious to everybody that pacifists are the most unlikely group to engage in violence, not to speak of terrorism! But strangely, other groups who have the means, and often show to have a motive to try to enforce their goals with arms totally escape attention. Why don’t we ever read about raids of militias, fanatic NRA groups and extremist teabaggers?

You’re joking, right?

Obama is the enemy. If you consider yourself an actual leftist start getting organized with immigrant rights groups and poor people campaigns and socialist parties and cut the damn cord already

I wouldn’t exactly say I welcome them…
I show tolerance. And that’s generous. More than those right wing extremists deserve!

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/09/public-privacy/comment-page-2/#comment-106220
No joke Gray, God bless America and her great Constitution.

This action is a POLICE STATE BEHAVIOR! We live in a Police State!
This action by the FBI is proof!

Of course, I’m sure we all know here that the Gubmint monitors these boards and probably knows exactly who is posting what. But as the saying goes, ‘The arc of the moral universe is long, But it bends toward justice.’
-Abolitionist Theodore Parker, c. 1850′s

So “it can happen here.”

This indicates that the expectation is that the republicans will be in office soon. Just as the Democrats used socialism toward a globalist agenda, Republicans will use fear and war.

Every US president recently has been villified, for good reason. The next one will be the worst, I believe. They are simply getting ready for an anti-war backlash to a republican war president. Again. But this time it will be more intense than Bush, if that is possible.

I hope we get an anti-globalist instead. But that goes to back to the fight between the anti war conservatives and the war conservatives, that is raging now, and why that fight is important. Some on the right are planning for another Cheneyland.

Nothing to see here folks. The FBI is simply stopping certain citizens who disagree with the government from participating in democracy.

The agents took “computers, several boxes of papers, everything related to data like discs,”

“Just as the Democrats used socialism toward a globalist agenda” — riight, like massive bailouts for Wall Street and a continuation of corporate control of policy making on everything from defense to health care (yes, health care — remember, we specifically didn’t get single payer health because our happy Socalist-in-Chief gave that one away to big pharma/big insurance before negotiations even started). That’s just so very, very socialist.

Other than that, I think you’re spot on re. the war on the right which could very easily trigger a war on everything else.

We should be so lucky as toHAVE a Democratic Socialist watching out for “We the People” in office!!!

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Someone is probably watching both of us. I’m just making it clear.

I used to laugh when Republicans on Redstate would tell me “watch what you say”, I would think they were joking, then I started seeing weird utility vans in front of my house week after week working on the phonelines.

Sure, he can put people to work building his socialist Gulag.

Let’s at least take a first step in not supporting the govt anymore:

Principled Nonvoting: The Beginning of Disengaging From the State
http://theinternationallibertarian.blogspot.com/2010/09/principled-nonvoting-beginning-of.html

All social programs are structured to collapse upon themselves. Overtime, the quality of “service” drops, but a greater and greater amount of tax revenue is shifted to the ultra elite as you attempt to pay down the debt associated with those programs.

Social security revenues are directly transfered to Wall Street, and the so called “trust fund” is filled with even more debt owed to Wall Street. Its no accident that the biggest supporters of “socialism” are the biggest Wall Street banks, such as JPMorgan and Goldman Sachs.

The social program is just a front designed to get you to agree to higher or new taxes that can be eventually directed right into the pockets of the ultra elite.

FBI………They don`t have the nerve to tell their children the truth about what they do for a living yet they go home and tell their children how much they love them,and kiss them goodnight.
The next day they just do what they do…wait until they are told what to do,and then they do it regardless if it`s good for their children,or not;they just do what they are told to do….like something from Roswell NM/Hanger 51,or,the DOJ.

Well, they are wasting a lot of man power in that case-on me, anyway…

Nobody’s laughing BosMan. I know how they play, better than most. And I find it very unAmerican -it’s the republicans way of doing ‘business.’ They shoot dirty pool, that isn’t new or news.

SR, I do not disagree with you. Social Security is a Ponzi Scheme but the Boomers have watched their nest egg vanish and more and more of them will place demands on the system. The 401K’s and IRA’s that they put their money into were Ponzi Schemes as well and now that their homes are quickly becoming worthless, they are starting to howl.

Before TSHTF on a national level, we’ll see it as States default on their pension obligations. California, where I live, has a $500 Billion Pension Obligation. How on Earth are we to pay for that? Within a few short years, pensions and education will eat up 97% of our state budget and that doesn’t leave much money for anything else.

As far as I can tell, more and more people are dropping out of the “formal” economy. Cash and Barter are becoming quite common as everyone from mechanics to tattoo artists are moving underground. I do not blame them. Why should they shoulder the burden of all these debts that these boomers created. Why should I pay so much as a penny so that these guys can have million dollar pensions. It just isn’t going to happen.

The loss of these social programs will hurt the people that are least able to cope. The old will have it tough but the teens and twenty somethings have it the worst as they have no education or experience to deal with the hustle that is to come. They will follow whatever Pied Piper promises them a return to a cubicle job, endless internet porn and 60′ LCD TV’s.

The bus is pretty big and a lot of people are about to get thrown under it.

Semper Fi

Horrifying. Living an Amish lifestyle is looking better all the time. But then I couldn’t be here to comment… one less addiction though!

Before the RNC convention in 2008, the Minneapolis Police busted some “radicals” for having Molotov cocktail-making materials.

They had glass bottles in their recycling.

After being jailed for a while, the charges were mysteriously dropped.

Hmmm. This is concerning. President Obama, where are you. This is not the change we were thinking of when we voted for you. In fact, the only thing that has changed is you.

god you’re an idiot.
show anyone here how the Dems have “used socialism”.

“I hope we get an anti-globalist instead”
as I said, you’re an idiot, and then you continue with the nonsense about any conservative being anti-war… do you just shit on the ground and “read” what comes out?

jesus fucking christ on a bar b que, I really hope your post was just snark that went over my head.

Lets see how long it takes RawStory to bury this under an avalanche of trivia.

You all are just KILLING me, along with yourselves…

None of you can see the forest because of all these trees in your way…

Here, let me pull that 2X4 out of your left sub-orbital… It’s not about how messed up the right is, they are merely products of their market. They are the corporate party, they take the money of boeing, haliburton, lockheed, honeywell and other such concerns and advance their paymasters agenda as they are paid to do.. Whores blow johns, just ’tis what it is..

Now, let me pull that 2X4 out of your right sub-orbital…. It’s not about how messed up the left is, they are merely products of their market. They are the corporate party, they take the money of merck, general electric, boeing, lockheed and other such concerns and advance their paymasters agenda as they are paid to do.. Whores blow johns, just ’tis what it is..

You cannot go head to head with leviathan and expect to survive, much less win, at least not in open combat. There are two things this monster we live under needs to survive: First and above all, it needs legitimacy. Second, it needs your capital.

If you want to deprive it of legitimacy you must openly and loudly declare your disenfranchisement. Every vote where you held your nose, every election when you didn’t CLOSELY watch who was cutting the election campaign checks and avoid the corporate hookers, you gave legitimacy to this leviathan of corporate war.

Every PENNY you spent that you didn’t have to, every red cent of taxes you paid, if you lived anything other than a truly simple life, you provided the very life blood of leviathan towards your own enslavement.

The entire left/right system is nothing more than a hegelian dialectic.

If you want out it is simply a matter of not paying your jailers, of not taking their “perks” in exchange for your Liberty and dignity.. Most of you are nothing but rat snitches, and have absolutely no idea how to be anything else. You cannot fathom life outside of the machine you power with your self induced slavery. You sit in your air conditioned car, sucking down your corporate latte, engorging your lard-laden ass with your corporate processed food, screaming to yourself “I MADE IT!!! I MADE IT!!”, “USA!! USA!!!”, “MY THINGS MAKE ME SOOOO HAPPY!!!”… Do they? Does all that plastic junk really make you happy and whole?

I run a sheep farm. I feed my family with our garden, chickens, wild game. I come into town from time to time, much like a recovering alcoholic will occasionally pass through skid row to tell themselves “but for the grace of God go I..”… I bring my laptop, log on a free wi-fi and launch these little digital messages in a bottle. I trade my extra food (fresh lamb, chicken, eggs and various vegetables, whatever I happen to bring in.) to baristas for never-ending cups of americanos. The are happy for the safe noncorporate food their otherwise meager pay could ill-afford, and I get my unsustainable coffee without feeding the beast.. I’ve set up many other similar arrangements for my other “system” needs. Plenty of people are guardians of things you want and need who will gladly negotiate a reasonable deal.. Disengaging leviathan hardly means “going without”.. In fact, I now get far more for far less…

I got out, so can you. Good luck, be free.

CHANGE!!!

And if McCain and Caribou Barbie ended up in, things would somehow be different??!@#!&*(^

Of course not. We have ONE PARTY in the USA today. The Big Business Big Government Party. It has two slightly different factions, both of which want to take YOUR money and give it to THEIR friends.

To imply we actually choose our leaders is IDIOTIC. We get to choose the lesser of two evils and can’t even vote for None of the Above.

Its not about terrorism. Its about 2 parties protecting they’re own increasingly worthless asses.

I think more people should engage in barter, as it cuts out both of our troublesome middlemen– the Fed Reserve, and the IRS. But the IRS goes out of its way to make barter impossible by forcing all trades to settle in FRN’s for tax purposes.

People barter because the currency system is failed in one way or another. But then the government steps in and says you must use the currency system, or [they] will come to your house, kick your door in, flash badges and guns at you, and scare your kids.

Americans must demand the freedom they like to claim they have. Rather than let the system sink us all, we can seize our freedom from those who would take it, and once again breathe life into the American Dream.

Other posters here should give you a clue… if you think you’re talking to a crowd of Obama supporters here at Raw, you need to do a bit more reading because you evidently don’t understand… most of us have grown up beyond the left-right paradigm. If you’re still partisan to the point you will ignore the wrongdoings of the party you like or the puppet you elected (by voting against the worst potential puppet) – you’re cognitively a child on a discussion thread dominated by adults who are sick of the illusions of democracy under what is actually a plutocracy. Evolve friend and you’ll see as many here do, we’re surrounded by bullshit whether red or blue.

Well, in polls, the MAJORITY of Americans dislike BOTH parties. The MAJORITY of Americans want a third party.

What we need to overcome is the mainstream media – it is they who most strongly influence the general public and in 2008 were no different, convincing people that Obama, Clinton and McCain were the only viable choices.

The treatment of Ron Paul by the MSM made that quite clear to me. The MSM is an important part of the CFR and are just another arm of the Rockefella/Rothschild/etc power game.

MiddleAmericaLN wrote:
“Unfortunately Obama hasn’t made nearly enough changes in several agencies, so there are a lot of embedded GOP loyalists that use their positions for political purposes, hence the trying to quash open organized dissent against right-wing policies, like war.”

I take it you have a very short memory. Remember Waco or Ruby Ridge and Janet Reno. It appears that the democrats are the ones to be feared due to violent abuse of police powers. Obama and Holder have no respect for the Constitution nor did Clinton and Reno. You are a reactionary idiot who doesn’t care for facts unless they support your distorted point of view. Your ilk are the responsible for the current state of affairs. You need to look at all the information and misinformation, attempt to discern which is which, and the draw a conclusion. But you won’t attempt that because it would be too time consuming and you would have to think. You would rather believe the spin put on the news by the left leaning media who won’t even report news if it is contrary to their point of view. Lincoln shut down newspapers that printed editorials or factual account that were contrary to what he approved and Obama tried to discredit Fox News because they wouldn’t give him carte blanche.

The globalists are all about corporate control. The Dems don’t understand what Obama and his people are really all about. Global control by banks and unified, worldwide governments.

You have to remember that, with the bailouts, the government GOT A LOT IN RETURN FROM THESE CORPORATIONS, including total control over them if this should ever happen again, without even going to Washington for a vote. Increased paperwork and much, much more control over them.

The socialism, or the STATE, enters into it, because they can FORCE you to do what the corporations say, and back it up with the police or lethal force, if necessary. That is why government unity with corporations is so dangerous.

This government wants CONTROL over these companies, without having to require them to do anything for the public good.

The government, in health care, will HAVE THE POWER, to do a lot of things that the private insurance companies could not. Require someone buy a policy. Dictate the course of treatment. Eliminate vitamins and natural healing doctors. Force vaccines that sicken kids. Refuse to admit dangerous GMO and poisons and refusal to label it.

Polls said that over 70% wanted a public option. The government that Obama wants USES social concerns to feed the globalist system. It’s not to do anything really GOOD.

The private insurance companies have a completely un-sustainable business model and Obama knows it. But he still will not do anything to take profits from the banks and ins co’s. That is why the O’Donnell race is so nasty. Delaware is the capital of out-of-control banks with state legislation given to them by Santa Claus on Christmas.

Obama is a real socialist about the same way Hitler was.

The Shrub and Obama are two entirely different people, whether you like it or not, whether you believe it or not. By now, anybody that buys into this notion that Obama is acting on an identical agenda to that of GWB is living in a delusional, paranoid fantasy.

And that’s all I really got to say about that.

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