I know a lot of people. I only know one person who actually likes this whole Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, Tea Party. He cheats on his wife every chance he gets. He has one child and another on the way. He’s a great guy to party with. He’s also a peace of shit and an alcoholic. Thus I don’t really care what he has to say about the future of anything, let alone this nation. He’s one of the most charming lying sacks of shit I have ever met.

blah, blah, blah….these polls are ridiculous. If you like the outcome, the poll is legit, if you dislike the outcome the poll is not legit.

Remember that W had a 28% that would never leave him? What is the difference in 30% and 28% keeping in mind that teabaggers are republicans who are ashamed to admit it and too dumb to realize that they are being astroturfed by big business lobbyists.

They are a trickle down from the “Koch” Brothers. A friend of a friend of a friend, etc. Then it reaches poor dumb people, who have the “illusion” that if they trust these rat bastards, when the day comes that they are rich, they will get the tax breaks. They forget that a capitalist pig is not a wage earner. It is one who takes capital and makes more capital; in hopes of not paying anything out for labor or taxes. Real american patriots. I mean tories.

But they are 100% active. Right or wrong. That’s how things get done. Until someone organizes average Americans to protest the lies, corruption, coverups and treason…..nothing will happen.

Someone will need to find a way to motivate the average American. To give them a place to gather and see they are not alone. Its why the tea party works. Doesn’t matter they are nuts… they are doing something… and there are a lot of people who want something…anything done. They would elect Satan if they thought it would change things. Thats all they want… CHANGE. Someone else needs to come up with a way to organize and energize an American or Independent party and make it viable by nothing more than numbers.

If someone leads… Americans will follow… that is all they are waiting for.

Teagaggers are secessionist traitors. Period.

30%!?!…it has to be a lot less than that…there are over 3 billion people in the US and as of 2008. there were only 169 million registered – 86 million democrat – 55 million republican – 28 million others registered…i really suck at math, but i
30% seems awful high…Bachman said that there were 1.5 million at Glen Becks MLK day sermon, Beck said 500000, i think, when the professionals said there were around 86000…these people love to inflate their numbers…

3B…really? You dont suck at math you’re an idiot.

310 million, not billion

310 million, not billion

oh and to save ur time for more drooling U.S. pop is 307M with an M as in million. As for the electorate its a little less than half at last estimate in 2008

22% of Americans are real Americans. The rest are phony Americans who hate America and want the terrorists to win.

Bachmann/McDonnell 2012!!!

22% of Americans are real Americans. The rest are phony Americans who hate America and want the terrorists to win.

Bachmann/McDonnell 2012!!!

yup..that what i meant…

i glad you know how to use Google…i’ll admit i made a mistake, but you don’t have to be an asshole…

It doesnt take google to know that 3 billion is a retards attempt to grasp reality. Nice post change. Go lay down

Where’s real America? I live in regular America with the other 78%

hey asshole, i admitted i made a mistake…go fuck yourself smart ass…why don’t you add something constitutive to the dialog instead of something a kid sitting in his moms basement would say…what…you must be 13 or 14?…

you statement is more an observation of the obvious, i just felt i should highlight and compare your idiocy to the inflated numbers of tea party supporters, who like yourself, are deeply confused. Ignorance may be curable but stupidity is a terminal condition

if it makes u feel better i can be 9 years old with autism.

The people that listen to Glenn Beck and Palin are like the kids we all knew who believed in Santa Claus till they were 11. The dumbest and most gullible of the bunch.

“you statement is more an observation of the obvious.” ..looks like you made a mistake there keyboard commando…

” i just felt i should highlight and compare your idiocy to the inflated numbers of tea party supporters,”

…my idiocy?…prove me wrong then…and yes , it was an observation, and i never said it was anything other than that…

These Tea Party Republicans are many of the same people who believed that Nixon was innocent and had been railroaded by the liberal media even as he boarded the Helicopter for his last ride back to California.

Your first post which you dutifully corrected indicated you thought there was 3 billion people in the U.S. yes i can see how you can confuse 300M with 3B the difference is only what 2 zeros and a letter right? Correct me if i’m wrong but your not only and idiot but a liar- either that or you dont realize you’re lying which again makes you an idiot….

wtf is your problem?..i made a mistake, admitted it, edited it (thats what the edit button is for btw)…you are just a troll, who has of yet, are still unable to address the premise of my comment…what reason do i have to lie?…either address the issue or stfu…

You made an EPIC mistake i’m not the one who has to explain anything. As for responding to you’re insults thats just filling in the time between rotations. PLAAAAAGGGGUUUEEEERRRRRRRR

You made an EPIC mistake i’m not the one who has to explain anything. As for responding to you’re insults thats just filling in the time between rotations. PLAAAAAGGGGUUUEEEERRRRRRRR

I prematurely hit the like button re: this comment.
On the surface, it had merit.
Scrolling down. reading your following comments,
getting to know you better by you own words and deeds
I wish I could revoke said like.
Peace there dude.. try some guided meditation.

Yet the Media face of the tea bagger movement are idiots who are white, but not very affluent?
Affluent means wealthy so the headline is silly.
The average D voter is wealthier than the average R voter?
The Tea Bag Movement isn’t a movement but is funded by the Republican party?
Tea Baggers are running as Republicans?
So ‘tea party participants’ are rich Republicans?

Anyway…why aren’t the Ds actually running on anything other than what hopefully drops from Media debris and missteps from idiot, but wealthy Republicans pretending to be a ‘scary’ movement out to destroy Amerika?

You guys are a laff riot politically.

Epic!?!…you must have a pretty boring life if that is an epic mistake in your perception…anyway, i’m done feeding you troll…you have made it clear that your limited intellect is not capable of rational discussion, and you don’t seem to be able to add anything of substance to the topic at hand…nice screen name btw..
Chingo= to fuck
meningo= short for “Meningococcal disease”
..nice…cya idiot…

This is extremely poor journalism.

“the vast majority of tea party participants have never worried about putting food on their family’s table, according to a new poll.”

How do you know? Did the poll include this question? Just because someone is considered “affluent” does not mean they are necessarily living on Easy Street.

“…political views represent approximately 29 percent of the electorate.”

29% of the electorate it a pretty significant number. Would this not indicate, then, that the Tea Party platform represents a third of voters? Why can’t you just come out and say this?

This article is merely Raw Story Bacon for those who like to bicker within the jello wrestling pool of party politics.

Garbage.

That’s the problem with you people, you think of yourselves as “real Americans” and the rest are phony Americans who hate America. That’s so self righteous and indignant when you’ve got no room or cause to be. What makes you people the “real Americans?” Seriously… You have a problem with taxes, as do I, but what you fail to see is that we pay the least we’ve ever had to pay in taxes since the 1950s. Grow up! You’re not the “real Americans”, you’re just a bunch of haters. I’m not rich, but I sure as hell don’t hate them. That’s what’s up with the Tea Partiers is that they’re just envious of the wealthy, but what’s worse is that they STILL support Republican candidates. That’s so insipidly stupid simply because it proves you don’t know anything about politics at all. The Republican party IS the Fascist party, just like the Democrat party is. They BOTH are, and it’s deliberate so that no matter what, the multinational corporations win. When the Dems are running the house the lobbying firms hire Democrat lobbyists, and they’re already prepping to start hiring Republican lobbyists for after November when the Reps take over the house again. Either way, their interests are being met, because with Reps and Dems, they’re not fighting each other for you. They’re fighting each other for control over the corporate money, and for more for themselves PERSONALLY. It’s people like YOU and the tea-party imbeciles who think they’re so clever with the whole “tea party” nonsense harkening back to the days of the American Revolution. We’re simply NOT those people anymore, and they actually FOUGHT a revolution. If ANYBODY tried that shit, not only would they LOSE but so would the rest of us. It’s OVER, don’t you get it? You had all these years since the Kennedy intervention to stop voting in the two-party democratic fascism. It’s so hilarious that the whole country is blaming Democrats for things that were started by Republicans under the Reagan administration. THAT’S where ALL of this mess we’re in today started, and yet I see SO MANY people praising Reagan like he was actually a good President. He was a HORRIBLE President as was each and every one since him. Everyone RIPS Jimmy Carter, when meanwhile he was the ONLY President since the Kennedy intervention who actually tried to help the American people. You and the rest of the people like you who think of yourselves as “real Americans” are just a joke. A REAL JOKE.

Your attempts to cover up the tracks of your massive gap in
understanding general facts of world leads me to believe u also have
nothing more than repetitive ad hominem attacks waiting for me. To
close out this absurdity let’s set the record straight. You: claimed
there was 10x more people than actually existed in the u.s. Almost
three times more than live in India. I: called u out on it and
proceeded to get lambasted in an obvious defense mechanistic fury. I
never intended to do more than mock you. On a rather ironic (for you)
and concilliatory note, I’d like to extend my thanks in your help of
that pursuit. Cheers!

Well, your 8 years with the bush retarded tax breaks for the rich left you and the american public with a 50 buck reduction a week in lost revenue. Smoke that in your ” abacus”, asswipe.

http://www.examiner.com/political-buzz-in-national/bush-tax-cuts-cost-the-average-american-21-000-over-the-past-eight-years

Errr… 30% is pretty substantial when you’re talking 3rd party.

You’re friends with George Bush?

Reading your reply makes me glad my attempt at sarcasm did not translate well.

Yes, the real battle is the rich vs the rest of us and not the Left vs the Right. The retarded morons who vote Republican, and thus against their own interests, just because they fear and hate gays… and abortion… and science…and immigrants… and Muslims… and Asians… and Russians… and education… and the Chinese…and the Blacks… and the atheists… and the non jesus-freak White Christians are a huge part of the problem.

I tend to think of TeaPartiers as 5% criminals conservatives, 10% greedy corporatist rich people, and 85% the same stupid sheep the GOP lead to slaughter every election that somehow get to decide what happens, despite the fact they have no clue, are ill educated on the actual consequences and broad scope and long term effects of the issue

The US media has not covered this story: MILLIONS OF FRENCH ARE ON STRIKE

http://english.pravda.ru/news/world/23-09-2010/115053-0/

Shows how that right-wing bastard in france is using our principles to screw over their citizens. What ever you do, don’t put it on the news here. America drinks and goes home.

Does that 22% include Hulkamaniacs?

That has to be about the dumbest thing I have ever heard

And you wonder why America turns out to be the laughing stock of the world……

Where are these people ten years ago? How come they never staged rallies against the wars? Their credibility are questioned.

Big news for you. The extremists have already won. Look at the economy, the state of civil liberties, the division in America, your own comment, and think about it.

Why is this a story? Freedom Works is a Republican orginization, Americans for Properity is a republican organization.
These are two of the most prominent backers of the Teabaggers. That and the fact that only republican leaders tend to be speaking at their rallys. Not to mention that, if any candidate happens to have had any past relationship with the Dems they are labeled a plant to split conservative votes in favor of the Dems.
One thing we do k ow for sure about Teabaggers is that they are certainly not representative of everyday ericams.
We the people arent just old white dudes.

Klucker’s United, Local 69 “..white, wealthy and affluent people, whose political views represent approximately 29 percent of the electorate.”

amen to that bro!

if you would have criticized the repubs during the past 8 or 9 years you would have creditability. othewise just more b.s. from your group!

I’m not a teabagger relax.

here’s why it’s important:
How many of these people do you think changed their voter registration to “Tea Party”?
*waiting*
See what I mean?
The vast majority of so-called “tea party” voters are nothing more than Republicans backed by money and anger.

Affluent – “having a great deal of money; wealthy”

This means that they are not having so many financial problems that they cannot put food on the table. And you actually quoted the words “vast majority”, so that covers those that are somehow wealthy, but cannot put food on the table.

33% is 1/3, so one can clearly show that the Tea Party does not represent a third of all voters.

So please do a better job of explaining how this story is “Raw Story Bacon”.

yeah i know why, because bush was an idiot @theDevil

No, it isn’t 30%. It’s between 20 and 25 percent, by and large the same old tired worn-out tinfoil-hat-wearing ultra right wing megachurch-tithing white Anglo-Saxon Protestant Christo-fascist knuckle-dragging anti-intellectual John Birchers we’ve always had.

We’ve been pointing this out all along, but no one in the media will bother to say it. Instead, they choose to confer more importance on these assholes than they deserve.

We used to make fun of these people, but now that we have no media save what serves corporate interests, they’re some sort of political typhoon to be feared.

Man, what a fucking joke!

Palin for Secretary of War!

Eric — I think he was joking…but to the extent that some people actually think like that, I’m with you man, I’m with you.

Politically speaking, the Democrats are a bunch of disorganized cats. Ever tried herding cats? Republicans march in lock step on these things.

And I’m not trying to insult either party with that comment, just pointing out the rather obvious. I’m a registered Independent.

Hmmm… I want to believe that, but consider the following:

They have their own 24/7 TV outlet to advertise and propagandize. That channel influences what’s covered on the other channels, turning them into zombie surrogates.

Case in point — the Glenn Beck rally versus the upcoming rallies. We barely hear anything about these upcoming events on any media. There’s one on October 2, there’s one on the 31st I think — there might be another one too — I don’t even know for sure.

So we can be active and should be, but we’re at a great disadvantage in getting out the word to motivate anybody. Nothing that opposes corporate objectives will be broadcast.

We’re not laughing with them, we’re laughing at them — those same tired old 25% of ultra right wing assholes we’ve always suffered with in America.

Actually no, I don’t wonder, it is obvious.

You must have a neat program on your computer to read the comments to you, as otherwise you *read* a comment obviously made in jest.

Damn man, anyone who writes that 22% of Americans are “real Americans” is obviously writing it in JEST.

Could his comment be as in jest as the original comment?

take their medicaid, and social security away. see what would happen.

Not to mention, selfish, creedy and disgusting. (I am white).

Opps: I meant to say selfish, greedy and disgusting. (I am white).

The media is right wing no matter how many times righties scream and yell about the “liberal media”. This was all part of the plan. Take over the courts, take over the media, take over the government. The media is corporate owned and run. Guess who they support?

Can’t wait for Comcast to take over NBC/MSNBC. Comcast supports repubs. Will they take off Big Eddie, Keith, and Rachel? If they do, we are really doomed.

If folks that lean left don’t see the need to vote, it will be a very long next 2 years.

The media is right wing no matter how many times righties scream and yell about the “liberal media”. This was all part of the plan. Take over the courts, take over the media, take over the government. The media is corporate owned and run. Guess who they support?

Can’t wait for Comcast to take over NBC/MSNBC. Comcast supports repubs. Will they take off Big Eddie, Keith, and Rachel? If they do, we are really doomed.

If folks that lean left don’t see the need to vote, it will be a very long next 2 years.

If you’re going to quibble over whether 29% or 33% is “one third of all voters” then I think you would have a much better time if you just went and masturbated the rest of the day.

“…How do you know? Did the poll include this question? Just because someone is considered “affluent” does not mean they are necessarily living on Easy Street….”

it suprises me that someone that knows how to leave such an opinionated commented doesn’t have the smarts to click on a link to find out more info.

if you you did (click on the red words “a survey of Americans who voted in 2008″) it would take you to “project vote” website with a link to “download the full report” which includes the questions, but i’m pretty sure all you want to do is b*tch.

do some reseach instead of coming up with statements that show your lack of any type of intelligence, because the “idiot” in your name refers to you not rawstory

Get your facts and figures and definitions straight before trying to insult others. Besides, I’d much rather fuck your wife, I hear she is extremely unsatisfied with her current partners.

Geez, you just could have stuck to explaining your rather underwhelming statements rather than going for the insults.

Three things wrong with this article:

1>They would have been out marching along with the real Tea Partiers, those who supported Ron Paul as long ago as 2007, and his concerns about unbridled deficit spending and the trampling of Constitutional rights during the eight years of the Bush Administration.”

- A huge number of the real tea party organizers (as in non-astroturf) who started the whole movement were Ron Paul supporters. I helped organize the question 3 tax cutting ballot drive in MA. I am a Ron Paul tea party guy making real progress. When I see the noobs show up at their first rally, those people are the ones who need to be told that they have been wrong, but they aren’t organizers, they are couch QBs with no real effect on the election (other than voting).

2> I don’t care how many black people support the movement. I mean really why does that matter?

Essentially I am being told:: “Don’t support low taxes because that isn’t a racially diverse opinion”. Really what does race have to do with eliminating the deficit and a balanced budget?

I know. But since we are bitching about “semantics” over a mistake, let’s throw it out there.

There is no difference between the republicrats and the demicans. They both support big wars, big business, bailouts, government sponsored monopolies on credit, and the national security police state. Bush started the wars and the bailouts and Obama smoothly continued and expanded the same policies.

The only difference is on window dressing issues which don’t matter like DADT, Gay marriage, immigration and other ‘cultural issues’ like the mosque and public funding for crosses immersed in urine.

On the real meat and potatoes which determine our future. Issues of the budget, foreign policy and crazy overspending, the two parties are in lock step.

The ONLY thing that can save us, is a powerful antiwar movement to sweep the dems and remove incumbents so that independent voters can choose someone other than establishment demicans/republicrats or tea party.

Ron Paul started the TEA party by inspiration and running the very first Republican insurgent campiagn which opened the door for everyone else.

Ron Paul is very anti-war

Davewtf: Interestingly, from the other side, it seems that Democrats march in lockstep and the Republicans are the herd of cats. Just like from the other side, media looks liberal. Perhaps where we stand affects how we see things? I have no studies to back this up, just mentioning something I see as interesting.

The Republican Plague on America 2.0 is coming to a city near you.

Aside from the “vast majority” part, I would not disagree with you. However, the mistake that people are making is assuming the Tea Party movement is merely a passing fad, or a Republican ploy. Surely the repubs are using the TP as a way to be relevant again by coopting the movement, but if you ignore the morons that are highlighted by RS to serve up bacon to the RS commentors, you will realize that what’s left are people that are pissed off at the fraud that is our gov and want real, actual change.

BTW, amongst the TP are people who were against the wars and protested against them. You folks need to understand that the Ron Paul contingent of the R party started the Tea Party movement. RP has always been stridently against foreign wars and occupation, and most of his followers adhere to the same principle. The TP movement is a legitimate grass roots expression of anger against the powers that be who continue to wage endless war. Do not ascribe monkeys like Glen Beck and others of his ilk who claim to be representatives of the movement. They aren’t. They’re merely charlatans riding the wave of popular dissent.

The fact that the TP movement is actually racking up successes is what scares those that would consider themselves opposed to the TP. And the reason they are scared is because they realize their ship is sinking and its being captained by an idiot (their hero, Obama). But instead of jumping ship, or declaring mutiny on the captain, they will go down with it, insanely defending someone whose policies they don’t even agree with, and who they hope will somehow change course all of a sudden and start dishing out the hope and change he promised. No, this will not happen, and those blind followers of Obama the Quite Ordinary will have to face up to the fact that they were lied to. Again. There is no Hope, there is no Change (certainly none you can really believe in). There is just the same old same old. Same wars, same occupations, same torture, same warrantless wiretapping, same spying on Americans, same harassment of peace groups, etc. How can the Obamaites explain this? Not without making themselves look like the deluded idiots they are.

On the flipside, the TP people who really believe they will change the system from within are delusional. It’s obvious that we will require a violent revolution to eliminate the current power structure that is a cancer on our nation. I’ve been telling these guys for years that they are wasting their time if they think they can just get elected and then start making change. Big disappointment awaits these fools. Playing within the system only legitimizes it.

Most people cheer it all on while our country descends into a scene out of Deliverance. Yep, all of them are just squealing like pigs. And they think if they just do what the guy says he’ll leave them alone. Until he doesn’t. SSSOOOOOOUUUUEEEEEEEEE!!!

One last thing to point out to the kneejerkers who are apoplectic about the TP: who do you think the TP is going after? It’s not just Pelosi and Reid and all the other idiots on the D side, it’s also all the idiots on the R side who are enablers of the Ds. This is Revolution, and most people are just sitting on the sidelines watching. If you don’t like the way the Revolution is going then it would behoove you to join in.

But let’s make one thing clear: revolutions never happened at the polls.

Is this a bad thing? Throughout history, people have been unhappy with/ rebelled against/ emigrated from countries and/or governments that they felt were too powerful. Could this be another example? Is is bad, or is it human nature?

Four years ago, I heard similar comments about the government from the left. Again, is this bad, or is it human nature?

I guess I’m supposed to respond to this?

Your choice. Not like I expect an intelligent educated response.

You actually wrote:

‘Just because someone is considered “affluent” does not mean they are necessarily living on Easy Street.’

But the definition of “affluent” is having a great deal of money. Are you telling me there are wealthy people out there that cannot feed their families?

And to insult the article by saying that 29% is one third seems to be being just as shoddy as you claim the article is.

And yes, your original insult was extremely unnecessary.

Your choice. Not like I expect an intelligent educated response.

You actually wrote:

‘Just because someone is considered “affluent” does not mean they are necessarily living on Easy Street.’

But the definition of “affluent” is having a great deal of money. Are you telling me there are wealthy people out there that cannot feed their families?

And to insult the article by saying that 29% is one third seems to be being just as shoddy as you claim the article is.

And yes, your original insult was extremely unnecessary.

Your choice. Not like I expect an intelligent educated response.

You actually wrote:

‘Just because someone is considered “affluent” does not mean they are necessarily living on Easy Street.’

But the definition of “affluent” is having a great deal of money. Are you telling me there are wealthy people out there that cannot feed their families?

And to insult the article by saying that 29% is one third seems to be being just as shoddy as you claim the article is.

And yes, your original insult was extremely unnecessary.

Yea it was def semantics when he wrote out “3 billion”. To me that is
a clear misunderstanding of this country.

I don’t expect people who pay no taxes to complain about taxes being too high, do you?

And the lowest 50% of households pay virtually no income taxes. Many get “Earned Income Tax Credits” to boot.

And our “civil servants” can retire at 55 will full benefits and a taxpayer-guaranteed pension for life, plus the life of their spouses. Of course, only a taxpayer would find this outrageous, since there is no public sense of morality left in the country.

No wonder the Ten Commandments are not permitted in government buildings. “Thous shalt not steal” hits too close to home.

I don’t expect people who pay no taxes to complain about taxes being too high, do you?

And the lowest 50% of households pay virtually no income taxes. Many get “Earned Income Tax Credits” to boot.

And our “civil servants” can retire at 55 will full benefits and a taxpayer-guaranteed pension for life, plus the life of their spouses. Of course, only a taxpayer would find this outrageous, since there is no public sense of morality left in the country.

No wonder the Ten Commandments are not permitted in government buildings. “Thous shalt not steal” hits too close to home.

I don’t expect people who pay no taxes to complain about taxes being too high, do you?

And the lowest 50% of households pay virtually no income taxes. Many get “Earned Income Tax Credits” to boot.

And our “civil servants” can retire at 55 will full benefits and a taxpayer-guaranteed pension for life, plus the life of their spouses. Of course, only a taxpayer would find this outrageous, since there is no public sense of morality left in the country.

No wonder the Ten Commandments are not permitted in government buildings. “Thous shalt not steal” hits too close to home.

I don’t expect people who pay no taxes to complain about taxes being too high, do you?

And the lowest 50% of households pay virtually no income taxes. Many get “Earned Income Tax Credits” to boot.

And our “civil servants” can retire at 55 will full benefits and a taxpayer-guaranteed pension for life, plus the life of their spouses. Of course, only a taxpayer would find this outrageous, since there is no public sense of morality left in the country.

No wonder the Ten Commandments are not permitted in government buildings. “Thous shalt not steal” hits too close to home.

Sad and ironic that people don’t vote in their own self interests, but because of BS ideology.

Sad and ironic that people don’t vote in their own self interests, but because of BS ideology.

Sad and ironic that people don’t vote in their own self interests, but because of BS ideology.

Sad and ironic that people don’t vote in their own self interests, but because of BS ideology.

Really? Republicans really believe that Democrats march in lockstep? How can they say that when Democratic senators constantly have to worry about other Democratic senators voting with the Republicans?

And conservatives consider the media to be liberal because they get most of their news from Fox News, which is really an opinion channel. When a news person states “Some people say”, that is opinion, NOT news. Hell, it isn’t even *fact*.

Where we stand does affect some things, but I have talked with conservatives – and I do differentiate between Republicans and conservatives – who really are the exact ones that Conservative Republican politicians rant against.

I spoke with a self-proclaimed conservative who told me that after losing his union job he got on unemployment, and enjoyed it so much he had no desire to go back to work. He also told me about the 2 mortgages he simply walked away from. One for a $700K house. I said “how the hell did a bank think a union worker could afford a $700K house?” and he responded “I could afford it, I was making $70K a year”. Heck, me and my wife both make more than that, and we cannot afford a $700K house!

I also cannot understand why conservative say that Democrats want to control every aspect of our lives, when it is conservatives who want to control a woman’s body, and want to tell me what drugs I can use.

so half the country has so little income that they don’t pay income taxes

they still pay payroll taxes (FICA), and sales tax, and ad valorem taxes

hilarious how you think this supports your ideology of transferring wealth from the middle class to the already rich

‘they’re both the same’ is a lazy man’s copout and indicative of someone that can’t be bothered to pay attention

Except that it isn’t a third party, it is just the GOP remixed

please do try to keep up

the only people stupider than Ron Paul are his supporters

the biggest mistake anyone can make is assuming that the teabaggers are anything but a corporate sponsored astroturf GOP front group of useful idiots

if you really believe the corporate owned and controlled media is left biased, then you probably bought ripoff gold coins from glenn beck

The rich have gotten away with so much over the last repubs decades. Go back and look at the tax rates in the past. The rich are not paying their share, but you think it’s wrong that the poor don’t pay?

You need a serious heart and soul check up.

You are just mouthing words that make no sense.

They are just repubs bought and sold by Dick Armey’s group. Duped as usual.

Exactly The repubs wanted us to think this was a new group. They are just racist, homophob, greedy, rich white repubs. This is their last stand. They know in 2012 they will not win.
The repubs have demonized all Americans except for old angry white folks. (I am white) during the last 2 years. A national election can not be won with only white folks. Demographics will bite them in the you know what come 2012.

What “Po white trash”? We have RICH white trash! Greedy sons o’-……..

I’m a “civil servant” working for the feds and I don’t have a pension. That ended for federal employees in the ’80s or ’90s. I have a Thrift Savings Plan that works like a 401K. Many state, county and city employees across the country have pensions, but don’t lump us all together.

As Elaine used to say on Seinfeld – Get Out!!

No surprise. And they want everyone to believe they’re no racists in the tea bagger republican party?

Insult? You whip out your cock and start stroking it for all to see, and I point this out. How is that insulting? Your lack of credible debate is what’s insulting here.

As to your question, open your eyes. I cannot debate pictures with a blind person. I cannot debate sounds with the deaf. Go out and see and hear what’s happening, then answer the question for yourself. “White, wealthy and affluent” are political buzzwords meant to conjure responses from simpletons.

No, actually you’re making the biggest mistake.

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Man, did you wake up on the wrong side of bed?!?

“You whip out your cock and start stroking it for all to see, and I point this out.” – HUH?!?

My lack of “credible debate”? Did you hear these words used against you once in a conversation and decided to try to use them again without understanding their meaning?

I am white and affluent. I don’t consider those “political buzzwords”, just descriptive words. This is not the first article to state what it is stating. It is simply again pointing out that the people who claim Tea Party status hardly have the money problems that the Tea Party is ranting against. And you will absolutely find some simpletons posting on this website – they tend to be the conservatives – but I am not one of them, and I would venture to say, from the posts that I have read, that there are quite a few well-educated people here.

These are the folks who fear Protestant white superiority is slipping away. Note the slogan, “We want to take our county back.”

Thanks for that. I am looking at the outlays for retirees in this and the liabilities for near-term future years. The figure for state employees is also dire, since states can’t print their own money and many retirement funds are billions in the red – and again, guaranteed by the taxpayer.

Thanks for that. I am looking at the outlays for retirees in this and the liabilities for near-term future years. The figure for state employees is also dire, since states can’t print their own money and many retirement funds are billions in the red – and again, guaranteed by the taxpayer.

Wow, a decent response.

The two politicians I respect most, even as I mostly disagree with the conservative one, are Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich. They both speak truth to the political powers and seem to live up to their principals. How Ron Paul begat Rand Paul is still a mystery.

There are two problems with Obama, as I see it:
1. He is as conservative as Bush. He has kept the worst of the Bush policies, and even expanded on the Patriot Act.
2. He tries too hard to compromise with politicians who simply want to water down and ruin good populist legislation. The Obama team decided to go with watered down legislation rather than no legislation at all. Not what I think most Americans would have preferred.

You are correct that our political system has truly become very corrupt. However, it now works for the very rich and for the very religious. And most of the Tea Party candidates fall into one or the other of those groups, if not both.

How can the TP have a revolution, when most of it’s members are old or out of shape? It does not take a young, fit person to pull a trigger, but anyone who has ever had to do it will tell you that it takes a hard toll on the body to actually shoot a person. I can see these people dropping dead left and right of heart attacks.

Wow, a decent response.

The two politicians I respect most, even as I mostly disagree with the conservative one, are Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich. They both speak truth to the political powers and seem to live up to their principals. How Ron Paul begat Rand Paul is still a mystery.

There are two problems with Obama, as I see it:
1. He is as conservative as Bush. He has kept the worst of the Bush policies, and even expanded on the Patriot Act.
2. He tries too hard to compromise with politicians who simply want to water down and ruin good populist legislation. The Obama team decided to go with watered down legislation rather than no legislation at all. Not what I think most Americans would have preferred.

You are correct that our political system has truly become very corrupt. However, it now works for the very rich and for the very religious. And most of the Tea Party candidates fall into one or the other of those groups, if not both.

How can the TP have a revolution, when most of it’s members are old or out of shape? It does not take a young, fit person to pull a trigger, but anyone who has ever had to do it will tell you that it takes a hard toll on the body to actually shoot a person. I can see these people dropping dead left and right of heart attacks.

Don’t confuse the issue with facts, chelicera. The other very IRONIC opinion is:
“since there is no public sense of morality left in the country.” then goes on to quote the bible…this is so outrageous, so we shouldn’t take care of civli servants and their families, no provide healthcare to those in need no matter what i cost, but respond hypercritcally to anyone trying to salvage the mess 8 years of trickly upon reganomics.
My opinion is the writer called the question perfectly-if you were so worried about tax/budget then where we’re you’ve been before Obama?

It would appear to me that the media tends left. I realize that Fox News tends right (they can claim fair and balanced but it looks right to me). I normally watch Fox for my news but when I go to other channels, the leftward slant is apparent. I understand that “corporate” leans right but it is not absolute. Perhaps you could watch Fox for a while then compare it to the networks. In fact, I have read many negative comments in Raw Story about “faux news” etc. I have not read anywhere near the negative comments about CNN or the networks. May I suggest you watch Fox’ attempts to be balanced in that they bring on opposing viewpoints even though their talking heads lean right. I have not seen much of that on other networks. Of course, as I implied earlier, that is only a few hours a week.

On another note, even when I watch Fox, I am very willing to display the BS flag when something I know to be untrue or manipulated is said.

“blacks, youths and low-income voters, who turned out in record numbers to support President Obama, make up 32 percent of the electorate”

And getting those people back out to vote this time is absolutely essential. Most of the GOP lead is premised on polls of “likely voters” that assume these people will not show up. They surprised the experts last go-around and they will need to do so again.

If you go back to the campaign of 2008, many Republicans warned about Democratic control of the House and a filibuster-proof Senate. The implication is that all Democrats will vote in a block. Along with that, there was always concern about the Northeast Republicans (Snowe, Collins, et al) who could not be trusted to follow the Republican Party line. I understand also that Republicans kept hoping for a Democrat or two to flip but the hope was generally faint.

Thank you for differentiating between conservatives and Republicans. It is too easy to over-generalize. In fact, I have no use for either party because it appears that their primary purpose is to gain power. I think that they have lost sight of the idea of representation. They have forgotten that it is an honor to serve and that they hold the country’s future in their hands. The goal of the politician is re-election. I would like to eliminate all politicians and elect representatives. (I know, I know, good luck with that, I know)

Again, I am not saying it is true. I am merely pointing out that where you sit will affect your view.

Those that claim to support so-called “family values” want to take us back to the 1950′s, Leave-It-To-Beaver-Ville, before civil rights, before desegregation, before Medicare, when abortion was illegal and women “knew their place.”

If the want the ’50′s back, they have to take ALL of it back. That includes the 90% tax rate for the highest wage earners that paid for their cushy white-on-white lives.

Remind them of that little fact, and watch their commitment to family values disappear.

i say let the tea party win. deep down trust me- nobody want to win this race and actually have to govern. They want to lose and blame the shitty economy on the fact that everyone thought they were idiots

The majority of Obama supporters are rich and white, so whats the point of this article? Obama is a bum, Bush was a bum, they’re all crooked.

Did you even read my post?

They differ largely in regards to ‘cultural issues’ the leadership of each
side advocate for very similar policies on important matters of the budget,
foreign policy and freedom.

What is the difference between the two in regards to bailouts and war?

Both parties leadership are in full support of the corporate kleptocracy

Perhaps you should read the article again. The article said: “the vast majority of tea party participants have never worried about putting food on their family’s table, according to a new poll.”

You responded: “How do you know? Did the poll include this question? Just because someone is considered “affluent” does not mean they are necessarily living on Easy Street.

Please note the paragraph just below the first ad: “Only six percent [of tea party participants] reported having to worry about buying food for their families in the past year, compared to 14 percent of voters nationwide, 37 percent of blacks, 21 percent of youths, and 39 percent of low-income voters,” they added.”

Paragraph 3: “…those sympathetic to the tea parties were white, wealthy and affluent people, whose political views represent approximately 29 percent of the electorate.

You said: “Would this not indicate, then, that the Tea Party platform represents a third of voters? Why can’t you just come out and say this?”

The article wasn’t necessarily comparing the size of the two groups. It was focusing on the makeup of the groups!

Re: The Tea Party is made up of “white, wealthy and affluent people, whose political views represent approximately 29 percent of the electorate” with “blacks, youths and low-income voters, who turned out in record numbers to support President Obama, make up 32 percent of the electorate.”

All taken into account, it seems your criticism rests more with your partisan feelings than with the factual content of the article.

Your “jello wrestling pool of party politics” comment really connected me with very interesting images, however.

Ohh no you are calling me stupid, my feelings are hurt. Boo Hoo

How can you say that?
Both sides are demonstrably pro-war and pro-bailout (ie corporate welfare)
America needs new faces in congress by getting rid of pro-war incumbents.

Wouldn’t it be great if the Democrats leadership were actually against the war?

It’s a shame you can’t read more than four words in a row. No offense. If you can’t see the connection between the Bush and Koch families, there is probably no way to reach you with reason either. You are being had, same way you’ve been had for thirty years by sons of bitches. You get rich being a crook, and $250 a year aint rich, son.

You forgot anal retentive.

Ron Paul didn’t start the Tea Part, smoke more crack. He’s a Republican. It was, technically inspired by some dude on the stock market floor. I don’t think anyone has claimed the honor of starting it. Ron started what the fuck is wrong with you people and factual information. Tea Bag that son.

Ron Paul didn’t start the Tea Part, smoke more crack. He’s a Republican. It was, technically inspired by some dude on the stock market floor. I don’t think anyone has claimed the honor of starting it. Ron started what the fuck is wrong with you people and factual information. Tea Bag that son.

Quibbling over nonsense. The greater message here is that this is merely to falsely divide you from your neighbor.

When you’re divided, you’re easier to conquer. Didn’t we all learn that in grade school?

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