This is very satisfying to read: Ricks also reports that Shelton has less-than-kind words for Sen. John McCain, who Shelton writes “had a screw loose because normal people just didn’t behave in that manner.”

While he confirms what we all knew back then, it would have been more courageous, patriotic and useful if he had resigned and spoken out at the time in opposition to the crimes against humanity.

Rummy was a plant for the DuPont/Bush Family in the Republican Criminal Organization. anyone remember Bush, Pete and Ronnie slugging it out for the GOP nod. Rummy’s job was to spend as much and send as much money so it could all disappear into the black hole and come out the other end to finance the elections. Typical launder/recycle stolen money from several governments.

Thank you Mr. Shelton.

But let me explain something most Americans are too stupid to understand. The vast majority of intelligence is obtained from public sources. You know: newspapers, television, the internet, public documents, word of mouth, et cetera.

The top secret stuff is notoriously minimal and unreliable. The public stuff is timely, accurate, and thorough.

In the lead-up to the Iraq invasion, however, your government and media brainwashed you into believing the intelligence game was all about secret agents and espionage operations. They had to. You know why? Because we had weapon inspectors all over that fucking country, giving us the best intelligence ever available. And they weren’t doing it in secret.

That’s right. The intelligence on Iraq was more timely, accurate, and complete than any other pre-war intelligence gathered in the history of this nation. That’s not an exaggeration. We literally had people in Saddam Hussein’s palaces, reporting directly to the White House. We had multiple spy planes running surveillance missions of their choosing. We had a team of helicopters, swooping down on suspected sites at will, with little notice. We had fairly thorough documentation of the status of their arms. We knew everything about Iraq and their non-existent weapons of mass destruction programs. Everything.

Please keep this in mind every time somebody brings up this nonsense about faulty intelligence and Iraq. It’s total nonsense intended for total morons. You don’t have to be a moron just because your government wants you to be a moron.

But lies -at least those spouted by politicians and even those directly cause the deaths of Thousands of Americans -are as American as Apple Pie.In fact it seems to me, lying rises to the level of a Protected Right, as a legitimate Tool of the Trade, once someone reaches political office in this country -like Poetic License is for Novelists. Punishing a politician for lying would be almost like punishing a carpenter for using a hammer.

I might add, anyone ever heard of the group called the Six Pack? Do your homework.

Ouch. Someone in a position to know telling it like it is.

Where was this opportunist during all the lying in the runup to invading Iraq? Nowhere. Now he just wants to make money with his “book.” Fuck him.

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Despite all these “Johnnie Come Lately” Generals, the biggest question is what kind of country never holds official investigations and trials for these War criminals? This is going to go down in history as one of Obama’s largest failures.

Does anyone remember Rummy shaking hands with Saddam and giving him WMD.

1. First and foremost, when an organisation, whose only loyalty is to a third country (read AIPAC), has TOTAL CONTROL over every politician in the USA and can TOTALLY MUZZLE any dissent in the entire USA, how can you possibly have a government that is “of the people and for the people”?? Then go to the next level and the same applies for: 2. TOTAL AIPAC / Zionist control of the national media; 3. Big business lobby; 4. You cannnot run and stand a chance of getting into office in the USA without access to substantial funds (read AIPAC / Zionist lobby again) ; and so on…

Know you true enemy!

These are the people USA supports (only a few of thousands of such examples):

Jewish settlers proud of their religion and “killing Jesus”:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M539PgDjbas

Israelis kill baby girl and feeds her to dogs. Zionists don’t let parents retrieve baby’s body for 5 days, 2 brothers were shot when they tried to retrieve the body (Google news bans this site):
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=50888

Burning Conscience: Israeli Soldiers Speak Out (I especially like the part between minutes 22:31-24:18 “The Big Brother was watching”):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37MFa7ZKQWo

Video Israel Doesn’t Want You To See (killing a mother of the Palestinian family and destroying their home):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW1-_JmXQt0&feature=related

Palestine Girl vs. Israeli Soldiers (who are killing Palestinian children):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQyIKyd2gqA&feature=related

If Americans Knew What Israel Is Doing (video after being censored, be patient and watch to the end):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynWjYHP91gA&feature=related

Israeli war ship attacks and kills mother and father of a Palestinian family having a picnic on the beach in Gaza:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhVZ0664mck

Journalist Receives Death Threat for Talking About Israel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spXA7GrOcLU&feature=channel

Israel’s BROKEN BONES Policy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0u3yljaMTg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36r8eSmpGx4&feature=related

Rachel Corrie gives a speech as a girl in 5th grade:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUGjzxG5r9Q

Interview with Rachel Corrie on 3/14/2003 (a couple of days before she was murdered by an Israeli):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3JI-axaRF4&NR=1

OPEN YOUR EYES!

http://www.thewe.cc/contents/more/archive/atrocities.htm

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/

Gaza: The Killing Zone – Israel/Palestine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo59c7zU&feature=fvw

Israeli atrocities in palestine-MUST WATCH- part1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9Byz2uKmF8&feature=related

Zionists lie that muslims want to kill everyone – check your history concerning what Muslims have done to protect them:

Siege of Jerusalem (637):
After the Muslim conquest of Jerusalem, Jews were allowed to live and practice their religion freely in Jerusalem by Caliph Umar – after nearly 500 years of expulsion from the Holy Land by the Romans!

Siege of Jerusalem (1099) by the crusaders:
The Crusaders stormed and captured the city from Fatimid Egypt. 10,000 muslims were killed. Jewish defenders sought refuge in their synagogue, but the “Franks burned it over their heads”, killing everyone inside. One account alleges that the Crusaders circled the flaming building while singing ”Christ, We Adore Thee!, Thee are our light, our direction, our love”!

Siege of Jerusalem (1187) by Saladin:
Upon the capture of Jerusalem, Saladin summoned the Jews and permitted them to resettle in the city. In particular, the residents of Ashkelon, a large Jewish settlement, responded to his request!

Relations between Deir Yassin and its Jewish neighbours had started reasonably well under the Ottomans, particularly early on when Arabic-speaking Sephardic Yemenite Jews comprised much of the surrounding population.

The Deir Yassin massacre took place on 9 April 1948, when around 120 fighters from the Irgun and Lehi Zionist paramilitary groups attacked Deir Yassin near Jerusalem, a Palestinian-Arab village.

Israel currently has 223 Jewish-only settlements and “outposts” built on confiscated Palestinian land.

0 Israeli homes have been demolished by Palestinians and 24,145 Palestinian homes have been demolished by Israel since 1967.

**In another part of the memoir, Shelton asserts that “[t]he John McCain that I knew was subject to wild mood swings and would break into erratic temper tantrums in the middle of a normal conversation.”**

Pretty much the same John McCain that we all know.

Yeah but on the flip side, he wasn’t targeted with anthrax.

yeah, thanks bro. nothing like waiting until 4000 soldiers are dead, and a trillion dollars spent, and 8 years gone by, to come forward with your book. are you donating the proceeds, or just looking to make some bank?

yeah, thanks bro. nothing like waiting until 4000 soldiers are dead, and a trillion dollars spent, and 8 years gone by, to come forward with your book. are you donating the proceeds, or just looking to make some bank?

Tell us something we didn’t already know. When it came to dubya, dick-less, and rummy, you knew they were lying whenever their lips were moving. The real problem here is the lack of balls by the current donkey administration to prosecute these assholes for war crimes.

What’s with this Warrior shit? There were no Warriors in the Roman Legions, they were Soldiers of Rome.

I’m kinda pissed he wasn’t more vocal too, but I’m sure someone knew about him and he could have been sought out to make these claims. I’m ticked off that corporate media didn’t put this guy front and center like they did with some of the other opportunist former military types who were itching for war. We were awash in the war mentality and it was all because that was all we heard…that was all we were allowed to hear! Shelton may be about making money off his book, but damnit his voice was muted by the media megaphones who turned a deaf ear to this type of criticism. A pox on all their houses!!

As obvious as this was at the time, and as late as this seems today, America will need a lot more of this type of historical narrative to avoid a future filled with people believing that Iraq was necessary, good, muscular foreign policy.
The impetus for certain circles to push that this is how the American Empire should behave is going to be pouring billions into revising and sanitizing the criminal behavior that dominated our nation during the Bush era, and the unwillingness of the current administration to set the record straight with criminal prosecutions will only make it easier for those forces to muddy the waters with revisionist histories.

“miss me now”?

Wal-Mart reportedly has an array of 500 questions that it uses to map a psychological profile of potential employees. Shouldn’t we require the same transparency of the people who make and enforce the laws and policies of our nation?

FREE AMERICA

REVOLUTIONARY (DIRECT) DEMOCRACY

If you “choose” to be a politician its proof your the wrong type of person to be in a position of power !

Rumsfeld said on 9/10 that $2.3 TRILLION was MISSING from the Pentagon …the next day all the evidence was destroyed …funny that …and wait for the white wash from England about the 7/7 “bombings” …re. 7/7 google Peter Powers CEO of Visor Corp.

General Shelton was recently elected to be the chairman of the board for Red Hat Linux

http://www.redhat.com/about/news/prarchive/2010/shelton.html

Wow, I can’t wait for you to post a series of soul-searching Palistinians showing remorse for their actions!

Drop of piss in the ocean, we could’ve learned from the previous Gulf Wars, or British colonialisation.

I’d go further and require ongoing polygraph tests to see if they are honestly representing their onstituents and not abusing their power. Why should they object if they have nothing to hide?

No surprise on lying scum Rumsfeld, or for that matter of the crazy old man shouting at clouds John McCain. There’s a reason McCain graduated 894 out of 899 at Annapolis.

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You have to suspect that there is a reason that McCain graduated at all — most likely the direct linear dissent from two admirals.

Bush Cheney Rove Rummy

Well, duh. Anyone who was sentient in 2003 knew this was going on.

The last straw was when Colin Powell held up the vial of cornstarch in the UN and threatened us all with Anthrax.

What a contemptible lot of war criminals.

Go fuck yourself. Your “scrubbing” would be better served washing your mouth out with soap’ You tory-troll.

Prairie2:

…”This is their new corporate media definition of “consensus”? Of course these are the same people who bought up the dictionary publishers and scrubbed the word “corporation” out of the definition of fascism. Ironically this was done in the mid 1980s, it went right down the memory hole. Today the right-wing think tanks employ large staffs to scrub the internet in a similar manner to keep Americans as ignorant as possible. They also employ economists that the media will quote as knowing what Fed policy is or rather what they want it to be”..

http://www.prairie2.com/

Fuck off.

Notice how the rats are turning on the rats. Rummy wants you to buy his book so he leaks the facts the Iraq invasion was planned in 1999. Bush is trying to make a buck on his book but no one is buying it. Cheney has his book of fear and pride in murder of troops. Connie Rice is looking for a job, money and a friend. None of these criminals have any idea or heart in the fact they allowed and caused thousands to die, many assassinated, millions displaced and thousands rape/tortured and the suffering with go to generations to come.

“In politics, every day is filled with numerous opportunities for serious error. Enjoy it.”
Donald Rumsfeld

I recall that at the time of the impending invasion of Iraq that the State Department and it’s invasion plan was shoved aside so that the Military Command could implement it’s own plan. No doubt so that the Commander in Chief could quash any peace nick descent that could come back from the State Department.

I had watched that speech that Rumsfeld gave concerning the $3.2 trillion on CBS and I remember how excited I was on thinking that I was wrong about these war mongers. The next day I thought that the search for the $3.2 trillion was out the window…
A couple of years later I realized what a sick joke Rumsfeld played with that speech.

“In politics, every day is filled with numerous opportunities for serious error. Enjoy it.”
Donald Rumsfeld

I recall that at the time of the impending invasion of Iraq that the State Department and it’s invasion plan was shoved aside so that the Military Command could implement it’s own plan. No doubt so that the Commander in Chief could quash any peace nick descent that could come back from the State Department.

I had watched that speech that Rumsfeld gave concerning the $3.2 trillion on CBS and I remember how excited I was on thinking that I was wrong about these war mongers. The next day I thought that the search for the $3.2 trillion was out the window…
A couple of years later I realized what a sick joke Rumsfeld played with that speech.

“In politics, every day is filled with numerous opportunities for serious error. Enjoy it.”
Donald Rumsfeld

I recall that at the time of the impending invasion of Iraq that the State Department and it’s invasion plan was shoved aside so that the Military Command could implement it’s own plan. No doubt so that the Commander in Chief could quash any peace nick descent that could come back from the State Department.

I had watched that speech that Rumsfeld gave concerning the $3.2 trillion on CBS and I remember how excited I was on thinking that I was wrong about these war mongers. The next day I thought that the search for the $3.2 trillion was out the window…
A couple of years later I realized what a sick joke Rumsfeld played with that speech.

So now the obvious, which we on the left have been stating for 8 years, finally has credibility because it is stated by a general?

BroccoliRob,
There you go confusing Zionists with Palestinians again.

Good one.

One absolute regulation should be that if a politician or government employee lies(or whoever he got his ‘facts’ from), he/she will be immediately fired and lose any and all benefits. Further, he/she would be banned for life from serving in any public service or working for a company that has any business dealings withe the government. Failure to follow this regulation should result in loss of citizenship and given a one way ticket out of the country with the death penalty over his/her head should they try to enter this country again.

You are not worthy of a response.

Name all of your glorious countries that do.

You can expect personal attacks on General Shelton from the neo cons any day now. When faced with facts that run counter to their fantasies and lies their usual response is to try to kill the messenger, never to respond with reason, evidence, logic, observations and analysis.

Some influential Democrats have suggested that Obama bring Powell back as Sec. of State. His complicity in the Iraq war lies and threats is more than sufficient reason why this would be a huge mistake.

It is too bad that Gen Shelton held his tongue for to long. He may have saved this country from much grief had he spoke up in 2003. The same can also be said for Gen Powell. We in the general public do not know what pressures they were under not to speak. Fear of making a bad situation worst, by speaking out is what I guess.

[...] [...]

Of course they lied. I’d like to see how much we’re being lied about Afghanistan as well.

Here’s one

From documentary series power of nightmares, part 3 @ about 21 minutes in.
Rumsfeld: Oh yeah, this is serious business. And there’s not one of those, there are many those.
http://img114.imageshack.us/my.php?image=powerofnightmarespart3vt0.jpg
James Bond type of hideouts(!) in Afghanistan according to Rumsfeld. A lot about the wars are pure fiction.

Sheldon is doing the typical Officers maneuver of running interference for his officer buddies and himself. To people who think like him nothing is more important than self, not your life or anyone elses. Rumsfeld just happens to be a Typical Pilot, only able to focus on a specific mission and unable to be distracted from the target, he’s also a Grade A ASS and that’s something anyone on either side of this issue should be able to agree on. A bunch of selfish SOBs now trying to blame each other.
Sheldon needs to be heard but it must be remembered that he was and continues to be part of the problem and musn’t be given a free pass just for the chance to pin the tail on Scummy Rummy. Sheldon is just as, well maybe almost as corrupt.
I encourage you to read what the US Constitution says about Officers, that the STATES have the authority to Commission Officers, now they are agents of the(unconstitutional) Federal Reserve simply attached to the Military. That is a bigger travesty but I bet you don’t care.

What a small and selfish American viewpoint. With well over a million Iraq human beings dead, four million permanently displaced, thousands tortured by U.S., the Country of Iraq basically destroyed and what’s left? The largest U.S. consulate on earth and the major oil companies with their contracts in hand for all the Iraq resources.

Lets get the War Crimes trials going and hang the monsters who did this.

IF Sheldon was Loyal and honored his Oath sworn to the Constitution he would have in fact spoken out long before now. While I have no doubts about anything negative about rummy I am not ready to grab the Pom Poms and start Cheering for Shelton. He is guilty, no different than those who stand there and watches a Woman Gang Raped and Murdered but doing and saying nothing because it isn’t in their own best interest at the moment. Unfortunately, he’s a typical Officer.

Now he tells us :-). Yeah, big deal. I see Bush, Cheney and Rummy, all living their retirement, free and easy. Until they are tried and sentenced for war crimes, I won’t be happy. Bush can still be impeached and tried in court. There is no statute of limitations on war crimes. Then, there is the issue of deliberately lying to the American people. While not technically a crime, it just goes to the issue of premeditated murder and mayhem prosecution.

Bush wasted over one trillion tax-payer dollars on this fraud. Think of the 4200+ dead US servicemen and women who were lied to, for the enrichment of the Military-Industrial Complex. Think of all the devastated parents and families of these soldiers who died based on lies and treachery. Bush was installed as president for the sake of this Neo-Con agenda that had been in the works since the late 90′s. Why Obama refuses to go after these jerks for crimes, is beyond me and any rational thinking.

Condi has a job playing piano for Aretha Frankiln.

That’s why the world governments set up the International Criminal Court in The Hague.

The Zionist controlled mainstream media had their own flavor of propaganda to administer and protect. The administration had it’s own techniques for whacking any mole whose head may pop up… Joe Wilson and his wife comes to mind… Then there was Daniel Pearl, the WSJ reporter who was working on the money connection for the 9/11 hijackers to the Pakistani intelligence agency the ISI, supposedly was decapitated by Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. It was later determined that the video of Pearl’s execution was taped at Gitmo… Then there is the case of David Kelly who was identified as the source of a BBC story claiming the Government “sexed up” its now notorious dossier on Iraq’s supposed weapons of mass destruction and later found to have committed suicide in the woods in back of his house.
CNN reporter William Cooper was spilling the beans about his interview with Osama bin Laden a couple of months before 9/11 and he was killed by the police on 11/06/01.
There is probably a lot of stuff out there that we will never know because of the examples that these people became.

Not to mention, paying private contractors up to 10 times as much as our Military Soldiers to do the SAME JOBS makes the idiotic move to attack Iraq one of the largest TAX HIKES in U.S. History.

Why not just double our Military’s pay and save BILLIONS?

arrest bush and cheney now.

Obama tried to curry favor with Republicans by going soft on their crime boss. That’s what the “looking forward” meme was all about. Look what it got him. On this score, Obama’s a naive idiot, as bright as he is in other realms.

the hole fucking works of them should be behind bars,the lives lost over that bullshit makes me fucking sick.

It was a scam from day one.

A scam to make military/industrial “buddies” bundles of taxpayer cash.
A scam to transfer treasury cash to so called contractors.
A scam for OIL. (did that one actually work?)
A scam for ruining the economy.
A scam for increasing government control
A scam to destroy the Constitution and the turn this country into the USSA

More like if the script is not followed, JFK is a good example.

Ted Kennedy had it right. He said that the Iraq war was concocted in Crawford, TX on Bush’s ranch and that stastement made the Republicans mad. There is still time to get Bush and his gang over to the world court where they should stand accused of committing war crimes.

The Zionists will do all that is necessary to assure that another FDR never comes to power.

I agree with you. Except, Shelton had a duty to perform under the Constitution, and that was to refuse an unlawful or illegal order. That’s one of those catch-22s that is used against enlisted men when the officers go Rambo, which is too often. Wink, wink. The officership of the military needs to overhauled. No more godship status.

The propaganda wars to rehabilitate & condemn the Bush II regime will rage, each side to convince only itself ad nauseum, while the world burns.

Oh, and YOU are? Bullshit, veggie boy. You never have anything but vile attitude towards anyone. You have NO actual ideas, you have nothing but a cut it all down attitude. You’re fucking BORING. Too bad you can’t seem to think past a one sentence statement to anything. But then, what should anyone expect? Your whole party speaks in very short words, and in 3 word sentences. No one has taught any of you to think past the Limbaugh sound bite.

Go home. You bore me, and I’m sure most of the rest of those here, too.

simply more evidence that Donald Rumsfeld should be in prison. I don’t care if he is over 70 years old, he has spent a career like Dick Cheney trying to ruin the power balance between Congress and the president. This man was no more qualified to run a war then Heidi or Peter Pan was. Bush should be in prison for listening to him, and Rumsfeld along with Dick Cheney should be in the same cell so that they can scream at each other. Rumsfeld and Cheney were tighter than a locknut

Oh Jesus!

The war [s] in the Middle East began with the invasion of Iraq due in large part to

A New Strategy for Securing the Realm (commonly known as the “Clean Break” report) is a policy document that was prepared in 1996 by a study group led by Richard Perle for Benjamin Netanyahu, the then Prime Minister of Israel.[1] The report explained a new approach to solving Israel’s security problems in the Middle East with an emphasis on “Western values”. It has since been criticized for advocating an aggressive new policy including the removal of Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq.

Working along with Perle were Douglas Feith, the Wurmsers, Wolfowitz and other advisors to Rumsfeld. Wikipedia has an extensive overview of it.

The “Zionsits” again. Yawn. Yes. It must be the Zionists because people are too stupid to look beyond that. Despite the fact that your asses are owned by the Saudis.

I am Shocked!!!! Bush and Rummy lied about the war? Who knew??????

All crimes have an MMO

M (method) In order to exert world hegemony they had to have a new Pearl Harbor which they planned under Leo Strauss.

used fly by wire technology
multiple military ops to cover up use
removal and destruction of material from scene
CDI (control demolition) barge in east river used for debris removal (too much of a coinicidence for me)

M (motive) PNAC (Project for a new American Century) world hegemony

O (opportunity) (Bush & Cheney in charge)

They will stop at nothing. Think Minot Barksdale and cruise missile size nukes. This fits Cheney and the Neocons MMO. God help us.

Gee the Bush administration was made up from lying, war-mongering, chicken hawks? Who knew?

Your right we won and don’t have to answer for anything. Nothing wrong here folks.

Your wrong about that…..we will see War Crimes Trials and 911 Trials for Bush and Company. I read somewhere recently that the Paraguay government confirmed that little Bush recently bought 1,000 acres there. Wonder why he would do that?

The project of modern warfare is entirely financial.

and these nutcases that vote republican want to do it all over again.

It is no wonder that Bush and Cheney lied or keep on lying, which western leader does not lie and deceive? For each name I can pay $50.00 Just look after they are gone from the office, and how their lies come to surface. I am 100% sure that WTC was an inside job, and demand for its international investigation by North Korea, Iran, Syria, India and Britton.

So he tells us more than half a decade after it would have been helpful.

What next? That Nixon was a felon in all but conviction? That Reagan had Alzheimers? That George H. W. Bush was a blithering idiot? That Dan Quayle was semi-sentient? That Bill Clinton had neocons and neolibs packed to the gills in his administration? That Obama is black and was a US Senator from Illinois? That the sky is blue by day and black by night? That plants have seeds….

“”You go to your own destruction with the deranged crackpots you have—not the deranged crackpots you might want….” – paraphrase of Donald Rumsfeld

And remind me again why all of these people aren’t in jail for war crimes?

It’s too bad the General couldn’t have been an historic, heroic figure by stepping down and exposing the BUSHIT. Would’ve saved lives & treasure!

Don’t forget the link to Netanyahu….

You got that right.

Everybody should keep in mind that Obambi had to devise his own Afghanistan policy because none of his top generals would provide one that allowed an exit. These people are barely on the verge of revolt.They’d be very, very, very happy to turn the country over to the likes of Jamie Dimon, Steven Schwartzman, Lloyd Blankfein, Mike Bloomberg, and the rest of the financial titans, with a thin veneer of GOP legitimacy slap atop it to make it seem reasonable. As it is, they don’t have to because the banksters are poised to do this with cash alone, and they’ll get even more of a $144 billion bonus payday by the time the GOP has looted us out of house (literally) and home (literally).

Uninformed & uneducated people bought into the Bush/Cheney/ Rumsfeld/Pentagon Iraq war lies through the usual republican fear mongering channels -The media, they pushed hard for it went along purposely & blindly for profit and when Phil Donahue tried to have debate about the coming illegal invasion of Iraq on his show, BushCo put pressure on MSNBC and the only mainstream voice (Donahue) questioning Bush’s upcoming war & lies was fired…..And the people ate up Bush’s lie for war – BushCo had over 80% of naive serviceman believing they were in Iraq because Hussein was behind 9-11 – which was completely Bush/Cheney fabrication….

Bush wanted the war, (he wanted to be a “war time president”) didn’t matter how many were killed for his ego and political goals, corporations are still making billions off the war for corporate profit, along with Pentagon weapons selling profiteers and all the oil companies are back in Iraq again after being tossed out by Hussein – As one infamous ignorant war supporter sign read telling us who were against the war in Iraq – to “Get a brain Moran”!

That was the mentality – the same mentality we see in the ignorant unwittingly corporate & republican shills, the tea-baggers!

I have to disagree with the General on one point. Rumsfeld did not have a style of leadership–he had no leaderships skills whatsoever. This is also the case with most political conservatives.

The suffering and destruction caused by Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and the rest of the neocons is beyond comprehension and words.

So who was on duty on 9/11? This guy should be calling on his staff and the other generals to explain why our pentagon got hit with a missile.

Another spineless military brass speaking out after the fact

Standard con response. Rather than retain the high ground and expend a little effort in self-criticism and improvement, just deflect the blame and unhelpfully point out how bad the “other guy” is.

That’s like being proud of beating the fat crippled kid in the 50 yard dash in junior high. Yeah good job on that, tiger.

Lowering the bar doesn’t actually make you any taller, it just makes you feel that way.

At the time Bush and his “Wannabe’s” left office were the deaths of somewhere around 4,700 (around 100 young women) ! Those that voted for this fiasco have their blood on their hands.These fine young soldiers fell for the lie as I did in Vietnam in 1967-68 Infantry.
I too am tired of having “Old people make up wars so young men and women who are “America’s Finest” can die in them!
Gruntsgt.

They can’t do that. It was “Their” missile after all.

So much for KKKarl Rove’s assertion that Bush never lied. And now we’re told the country wants to vote this same band of brigands right back in again!

Liberation of Iraq not illegal, UN & US Congress overwhelmingly approved, whole list of democrats & European leaders during 90’s confirming & agreeing on the intelligent reports (video confirmed for the record), never did the Bush administration tie 9/11 attack to Iraq. How many mass graves does one need to see before they realize this was an evil man (not since Hitler) & the world needed to remove him (over 200 mass graves discovered, over 200,000 skeleton remains). Would you like to live under a dictator ??? Let us hear you say you wish he was still in power!
How do you think the world should handle the current evil man (the Holocaust denier) ???

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No doubt what they did was wrong. But history will show weather it was good or bad for the free thinking human race. If no war on religion will ever happen it was all a waste of money and lives. If on the other hand we do get a war on religion, then everything witch speeding up the incident will be thought of as something good. Why ? Simple. The later it happen, the more sophisticated weapons of mass destruction will be, plus the higher the proportion Muslim versus non Muslim, the more messy it will be. And Europe is getting flooded with Muslims who would love to see any non Muslim country convert to Islam. Would that benefit the American people ? I doubt. It would means more nuclear warheads pointing towards America and then what ? World war 3 would only be a matter of time. Not enough resources to make the world spin around if for a large part, it is under Muslim control.

Liberation of Iraq not illegal, UN & US Congress overwhelmingly approved, whole list of democrats & European leaders during 90’s confirming & agreeing on the intelligent reports (video confirmed for the record), never did the Bush administration tie 9/11 attack to Iraq. How many mass graves does one need to see before they realize this was an evil man (not since Hitler) & the world needed to remove him (over 200 mass graves discovered, over 200,000 skeleton remains). Would you like to live under a dictator ??? Let us hear you say you wish he was still in power!
How do you think the world should handle the current evil man (the Holocaust denier) ???

No Sh*t?” This guy must be Sherlock Holmes!

I hate to be the bearer of bad news to you but a case is already underway for impeachment of your current president, do your research, evidence includes treason, adding & abiding our enemy, allowing terrorist attacks on American soil, leaking of national security information to our enemies, failure to protect, defend & uphold the U.S. Constitution, lying under oath, etc… Good luck.

The war in Iraq was illegal, based on lies and selling lies to Congress and the UN, immoral, invading a soverieng nation that posed no threat to the US, and unnecessary

Well now. Theres a hot news flash! ! !

If you had an ounce of balls general… you would have been screaming all of this at the top of your lungs 8 years ago. Its a little late in the game to be coming up with insightful observations as this point. Especially since anyone with half a brain ALREADY KNOWS BUSH WAS A LIEING POS. And that Iraq was about OIL ! !

And if that’s not treason then there is no such thing as treason in this country anymore.

[...] Daniel Tencer The Raw Story [...]

Not looking good for kasinca if that’s your defense then the lies started back in the 90’s under a democratic president & congress & other world leaders, know your facts & truth before you debate, that’s why there was never any push for impeachment, those who would have tried would have lost the debate to the facts, records & truth.
Hate to be the bearer of bad news to you but case is already underway for impeachment of your current president, do your research, evidence includes treason, adding & abiding the enemy, allowing terrorist attacks on American soil, leaking of national security to our enemies, failure to protect, defend & uphold the U.S. Constitution, lying under oath, etc… Good luck.

Great! Let’s go and get rid of every fucking dictator out there (and monarchies too) as if that is the responsibility of the USA. Buscho did tie 911 to Iraq.

I completely agree. All fo these rats are speaking up now that they
can make a buck on it.

Rob, take the Broccoli out of your ears, put down the mind-numbing drugs, stop taking the fluoridation and every other drug now in US tap water and educate yourself by reading up on history as well as current affairs:

The Palestinians did absolutely NOTHING to the Jews!

Why should they apologise for being dispossessed, ethnically cleansed from their land and homes, summarily executed, tortured, incarcerated, starved to death, denied habeus corpus and every other form of international law and human rights?

I dare you to name me one single American who would simply accept and tolerate such treatment and not want to protest it, redress it and / or fight against it?

I also suggest you read up on US history which shows that America, built upon stolen and thus “free” land and slave thus “free” labour (the only reason why it is so rich now), has no better reputation which is why your US-trained brain is functionally unable to comprehend such facts.

This is also why the US is the ONLY country on this planet which vetoes EVERY single UNSC vote against Israel WITHOUT EXCEPTION!

A good starting point for your research and mind opening would be the Cherokee Nation… “We Shall Remain: American Experience”. Go ahead now, start your first grade education process…

In fact, here are a few more points of interest to help you educate yourself as to the true nature of those you so blindly defend:

You and other Americans need to be reminded of some past acts of the Zionists (the US’s so-called allies, keeping in mind this will not include the massacres committed by Irgun, Lehi, Stern’s gang members, or terrorist acts committed against other countries): June 8,1967 Unmarked Israeli warplanes and torpedo boats attacked the U.S.S.Liberty in International waters killing 34 U.S.sailors and Marines. 1979-1981 During the U.S. hostage crisis in Iran Israel was specifically asked to stop supplying Iran with weapons while Iran was holding American hostages. Israel was selling 500 million dollars per year of weapons to Iran even after the U.S. asked Israel to stop. Oct.1983 Israel deliberately allowed 241 U.S.Marines to die as the bombing in Beirut was not reported to the U.S. when Mossad learned of it. 1984 Israel denies U.S.Just.Dept.’s demand to extradite Marc Rich a convicted Israeli spy against America. Aug.1985 Israeli American scientist was arrested for stealing 800 nuclear weapons triggers from the U.S. and sending them to Israel. Nov. 22,1985 Jewish U.S.Navy employee arrested as Israeli spy. Oct.27,1991 Israel inflames race tensions in America by supplying apartheid S.Africa with weapons and forcing the Bush adm. to waive sanctions against Israel. March 1995 Israel is charged with Systemic Harassment of U.S.Marines. Aug.23,1996 CIA accuses Israeli spies of theft of U.S. corporate scientific and technological data as the type of espionage that poses the greatest threat to U.S. economic competitiveness. Sept. 1997 Israel as a haven for Jewish American murderers to flee to and be holed up in,refuses to extradite the Jewish murderer of an American. June 18,1998 Israeli (businessman) convicted for selling chemical and biological weapons components and know-how to Iran for $16 million. Jan.28,1999 Israel transfers laser tech. to communist China despite American outrage. July 30th,1999 Israeli hackers attack the Pentagon. Feb.24,2000 Israel again sells donated U.S. military tech. to communist China in the face of American outrage. Sept.11,2001 Israeli spies are caught cheering and photographing the WTC as it fell. March 15,2002 Israel ignores U.S. demand to leave Palestinian territories damaging American credibility and making America look like a hypocrite for forcing Sadam out of Kuwait but not Sharon out of Palestine. We as people wouldn’t have friends like this, and we shouldn’t as a nation…so why do we? The U.S.’s demand of the separation of church and state needs to be reflected in it’s foreign policy…

Finally, I suggest you also come out of the closet and preferably resign from the fascist organisation, AIPAC, which you quite clearly adhere to!

“Valkyrie” lives!!

Our military, law enforcement, and ELECTED OFFICIALS need to HONOR THEIR OATH TO THE U.S. CONSTITUTION!!

oathkeepers.org

Go on, come out of the Nazi AIPAC closet now, Rob, and get into first grade education. It really is healthy for you to clear out the dust in your head’s cavity…

Even the words of a US General will not pierce the armor of the willfully ignorant that are the typical Conservatives. They’ve made their leap of faith and won’t stop believing until they bounce off the hard rocks of reality.

They have gone through all the transcripts, never did Bush tie Iraq to 9/11, if you find a transcript, post it & source, other wise its an opinion, the world united against Hitler, the world united after 9/11 to UN mandate remove Hussein. Yes would be grate if people could live happy free lives & not be under a dictator, good luck.

I would say there should be a charge of treason for Rumsfeld, Cheney Bush and Rice. For lying to the American people of threats and necessity to invade another country.

But the Democrats in the White House have done nothing to expose the lies of the Bush administration and or hold them accountable for their knowing unconscionable criminal actions.

“We’ve seen in connection with the hijackers, of course, Mohamed Atta, who was the lead hijacker, did apparently travel to Prague on a number of occasions. And on at least one occasion, we have reporting that places him in Prague with a senior Iraqi intelligence official a few months before the attack on the World Trade Center.”

Dick Cheney, Meet the Press, Sept. 8, 2002

So, you’re right, Bush did not explicitly make the connection, but his second-in-crony did. He’s using some weasel words here, but he leaves no doubt that the admin. wanted to make the case that there was a connection, and have the American people believe it.

The next time you have a hangnail, come to me and I would be happy to cut your arm off. See? No more painful hangnail. This is the same fallacy that constitutes your argument — destroy the lives of millions of Iraqis (dead or displaced) and thousands of U.S. troops (dead or injured) to take out a dictator who was no threat to us.

while I think 911 was a classic “false flag” attack the one that blows me away is the Tube and Bus bombing in London on 7/7. Amazingly A guy by the name of Peter Powers (sic) of a company Visor Corp were paid by “unknowns” to conduct a “drill” on the morning of 7/7. The curious part is as Peter Power was being interviewed by the BBC (Live) the news came in about the actual bombing .In Powers words “the hair on my neck is still standing up” because the drill was EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED AND THE TIMING WAS EXACTLY WHAT WAS DRILLED.To this day no one has said who paid for the “drill”.There is no way this is a coincidence .
mick

Typical wingnut, unable to accept responsibility. Blaming the Democrats for saying things in the ’90s while the Bush Crime Family lied to Congress and the United Nations and invaded Iraq based on those lies is illegal, immoral, and unnecessary and probably war crimes. Nice try Karl.

Please up load this it relates to 911 but is from 7/7 in London.
This is info is being lost and its important that it is never lost.

Peter Power 7/7 Terror Rehearsal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKvkhe3rqtc

Uh, how about ‘no, provide us some useful links, asshole.’ Sending inquisitive readers on another wild goose chase?

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj48/phillydrifter/politics/rumsfeld_hussein.jpg

Yes this was after Reagan sold Saddam some chem WMDs, the old, rusted, broken, useless ones that Santorum clung to when he proclaimed ‘we were right to invade Iraq! They DID have WMDs!!!11eleventeen’

And all those world governments turned a blind eye when Bush invaded Iraq because they wanted some of Saddam’s oil for their countries too.

Powell knowingly lied to the American people when he showed those graphics — designed GRAPHICS — simulating what ‘mobile weapons labs’ looked like.

They didn’t even have ANY satellite images SHOWING ‘mobile weapons laboratories’ so they photoshopped some up, printed them on cardboard, gave them to Powell and said ‘here, use these to explain the threat we’re under.’

Obama is bought and paid for like (almost) every other Senator/Representative in federal congress.

two parties, one goal: illusion of democracy. They’re both owned by the Federal Reserve. The handful of honest elected politicians (Paul, Kuchinich, Greyson, Franken) don’t stand a chance of getting anything honest past or anything evil vetoed.

The bin Laden family also owns one of the largest — if not THE largest — contracting company in the middle east, so I guarantee you they’re making money hand over fist rebuilding Iraq, too.

See “Crossing the Rubicon: The Decline of the American Empire at the End of the Age of Oil” on half.com (674 pages)

http://tinyurl.com/carlylegrp

The Best Enemies Money Can Buy
From Hitler To Saddam Hussein to Osama bin Laden – Insider Connections and the Bush Family’s Partnership with Killers of Americans

Source?

I think he has property in Brazil, for the record.

It’s common knowledge that they were lies. Thanks for pointing out what we already figured out from hearing all the propaganda on the news networks. When college students play a game where everytime the Pres or Cheney say Iraq had “WMD” and they take a drink, you’ve got to wonder.

And then Obama “looks forward” thus making our leaders unaccountable for torture and wars of aggression.

I agree with you kasinca, but the Congress is equally to blame as Bush. They continue to fund these insane wars the Republicans got us into. If the Democrats were any less corrupt than the Republicans, they would have shut the funding down when they had the ability to do so. The American government is corrupt and broken completely. It is time for revolution.

Amerika fits all the protocols of a totalitarian military dictatorship so what is your point?
It kills me when someone tries to pontificate that somehow everyone else is a threat or a ‘dictator’.
America and Israel are in perpetual war and have been since inception. The US goaded Hussein to attack Kuwait, another barbarous ‘dictatorship’.
The attack on Iraq was intentional for mass profit and to destroy all history of Mesopotamia which has important knowledge for the benefit of mankind.
You are a slave to the military industrial banking oil Zionist complex accept it and get used to it.

No Shit, Sherlock.

Total bs. I watched the W talk about Iraq as if it was tied to 911 from day one. You must be talking about FAUX Fake transcripts. I never watch the phoney noise network.

No disagreement from me. My only problem is the lying sacks of sh*t on the right, most whom never wore a uniform still warmongering around after all these years defending the cowardly neo-conservative Bush Crime Family who actually made the jump to invade. All the talk in the world is not invasion. W pulled the trigger.

Check it, Mike:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-june-21-2004/headlines—9-11-commission-report

OK, those of us who were skeptics at the time figured lies were being perpetrated, so that’s nothing new. What is new is the information about John McCain. Looks like the American people escaped a bullet by electing Obama. I can’t imagine someone with mood swings in charge of the nuclear button. One question, though: why didn’t the top military advisers, who knew lies were being used to justify this (unjustifiable and ultimately unaffordable war, get together and make the lies public, out of a sense of loyalty to the AMERICAN PEOPLE, instead of their officials who were elected by the Supreme Court, NOT the people?

Does McCain have latent Tourette’s Syndrome? Just kidding of course….
General Shelton’s memoirs confirm what a large percentage of the American people thought about Iraq, George Bush, etal, from the very beginning. Of course the general is now retired, with pension in hand, out of the limelight. If he thinks along the lines of, say, General Pastraeus, his book can be looked upon suspiciously as an attempt to define his role in US military affairs before legitimate historians have their say…. I don’t know if that bodes well upon the validity and context of his words, or not, but why has he waited so long to get this information out before the public ? His memoir also raises the question of what first hand observations other generals are keeping to themselves?
Colin Powell immediately comes to mind. What were his observations of these same people (ie…Rumsfeld, Bush, Cheney, etc.) and their actions, leading up to and during the Iraq War. Did he witness the same political machinations and corrupt, illicit behavior?

What say you to all this, General Powell?

Ooh, I posted this before the comments above (e.g., Daily Show clip). Bush did say it as well. Any thoughts, amerimike?

Mike, the “reasons” for invasion changed from week to week… usually after the previous one was debunked… When finally getting around to eliminating Saddam… that was done and Bush STILL didn’t leave. It was bullshit from start to finish.. AND preplanned. Read the PNAC manifesto. Invading Iraq was important to their plan and had to be done. Justified or not.

Who are you calling asshole???? Can’t find anything on the Six Pack? Wonder why. Its a group who meets to discuss certain financial interests. And they are all Military/Industrial. Remember follow the money asshole?

Shelton is full nonsense. Good was served if the only outcome of it was that Israel does not have Saddam Hussein to worry about. GOOD WAS SERVED. Shelton needs the money and I am sure his publisher needs to have something sensationalistic in the book in order for it to sell; Donald Rumsfeld was one of the finest Defense Secretaries we have ever had.

No shit? This is news?

Is Soros paying you to be this stupid? Or are you really a Teaparty plant to make all Libs look like morons?

You know othing of which you speak. To think for one minure that Aids-infested Arafat was not a cold-blooded killer of Jews puts you into dreamland. And poisons the entire rest of your post.

Next time, begin your post with sanity and then drift off into liberal nonsense later. Better chance at holding an audience.

Yes, the Palistinians never did anything to hurt innocents at all. By the way, what was the name of the Pizza place where they killed those women and children? It was really thoughful of them to push Mr. Kilinghoffer off that hijacked cruise ship…wheelchair and all. How about raping thier own women and then turning them into suicide bombers? And you wonder why conservatives think Libs are scum?

Pretty much what popped into my mind–maybe worded a little differently.

200 nuclear weapons and the “poor” Israelis needed to worry about Saddam Hussein? Can’t you guys at the IMFA come up with anything better than that?

That’s because the Democrats in the White House are really Republicans.

[...] The US had no reason to invade Iraq in 2003, and only did so because of “a series of lies” told to the American people by the Bush administration, says Gen. Hugh Shelton, who served for four years as the US’s top military officer. Read More Here [...]

Bush never tied Iraq to Al Qaida, which he insisted was behind 9/11, even before the fires had stopped burning? You should be careful making such fine distinctions. You might cut yourself.

Do you get paid for posting or have you been hypnotized?

Of course you know that ClusterFox will soon parade a squadron of ex-military types before their prime-time cameras to explain how utterly unhinged from reality Gen. Shelton has become, after serving so nobly and selflessly for lo these many years blah blah blah…

May I remind you that Israel is not our 51st state, and it is high time that we cease acting as if it were.

And you and Rumsfeld can both kiss my red, white, and blue rear end.

How so?

Because most successful soldiers have what I call “the soldier’s flaw” – a loyalty to their commander that is so ingrained, it’s burned into their DNA. Even Powell had it, for all is brilliance and fortitude. His commander wanted him to speak at the UN, and he complied. Powell was and still is a supremely stellar American. But never forget he was, and still is, also a soldier.

shithead

another shithead

Whoh, dude, you drank the Kool-Aid and asked for seconds, huh?

The “overwhelming approval” of the Congress was obtained by lies, therefore it was a fraudulent vote.

I for one do wish that Saddam was still in power. It would have been much, much easier to deal with his nonsense than the insurgency, the influx of al Qaeda, the present chaos, the rise of Iran, and the thousands of deaths and cancers and displaced as a result of the invasion. Not to mention the Trillion bucks we spent, and the human waste as well as the VA costs of our brain-rattled veterans, and having to replace our stockpile of sand-blasted military equipment. And our loss of honor over Abu Ghraib. And the list goes on and on.

That war was, quite simply, the worst strategic blunder in the history of warfare. Period. And 99% of all the military historians in the world will tell you the same thing.

It was wrong, it was abysmally stupid, and it got us exactly nowhere. And if you think otherwise, you’re a propagandized fool.

Dodging Saddam’s missiles in the no-fly zone and slapping the wrists of countries who violated the oil-for-food program was child’s play in comparison to what we have now.

The way we should handle the current evil man is to engage in extensive trade with him, which will open up his society to the influx of Western thought and influence. Rock and roll and Coca-Cola. Ping-pong diplomacy. We should have the Olympics in Teheran. The mullahs will die off and the Persian citizens (who LOVE America) will be our allies within a generation.

“good was served”?

your gawd of death and destruction and misery and mayhem continues to be well served indeed. i and mine choose to not serve this gawd of yours who speaks in terms of birthright, preemptive entitlement, priviledge, reprisal, vengeance and yet, immunity …

or in other words; eat sh*t and die so the rest of humanity can get on with evolving!

spare a thought for all those poor soldiers who lost thier lives as a result of the decisions made the ego;s of the people in charge,peace and love to everybody.

General Smedley Butler salutes you from beyond the grave, soldier! Well done and carry on.

Put simply: Gen. Shelton is underlining the flawed casus belli for military action against Iraq. Israel’s concerns about Iraq are irrelevant. It’s about how the American government lied to the American people and used its forces unilaterally, based on a very weak premise.

Was it legal? Seems not. And it has seemed that way for a long time.

Does it matter? Not to those who think the big stain on our reputation is something easily shouted out.

Keep on rollin’ …

There we have it, an anti Semite, you guys drive us nuts, you always fail to mention Bill & Hilary Clinton, Al Gore, Ted Kennedy, Nancy Palocy, Dick Durbin, Harry Reed, etc… all Democrats & a host of others on record oral/written & video confirming Iraq had WMD. You watch footage of gassed Kurds, Iraqi & Iranian civilians. The chemicals never turned over to UN or destroyed. You watch evidence of the pre planed 9/11 attack, going to happen even if Gore was President. Fatwa issued by Islam on US in 90’s, stop your name calling, blaming Bush or getting angry & answer the question, how many Jews needed to die during the Holocaust before someone did something about it, how many mass graves do you need to see before somebody should have done something about it??? We have a new little Hitler of Iran out there now, something big is about to happen again, who’s side will you be on?

zzzzz old news

You are changing the pretext of history. The pretext for invading was WMD’s. If you remember CORRECTLY, the inspectors were screaming that they couldn’t find anything. Saddam opened up the whole country to the inspectors without prejudice, yet they still could not find a damn thing. Bllix was yelling at us not to invade. Bushco tried to discredit Blix and invaded anyway.

Yes, Saddam was a tyrant. The biggest mistake we made was not supporting the Shi’ite uprising after the first war. That doesn’t give us authority to invade a second time. NO. If the Shi’ites were to rise again, then yes, we could support them, but invading unilaterally? That is against the law. Period. The end.

Crazy Donald Rumsfeld was also the one who had biblical passages put on the cover of DOD reports and okayed private contractors to provide guns with biblical passages etched on the gun metal.

He was also the one, along with the criminal George W. Bush and corrupt Dick Cheney, to go hog wild in privatizing not only the U.S. military but also privatizing (to the extreme) the supply lines supporting our military, giving no-bid contracts to Republican-owned private companies who made armored humvees or body armor, but because this select group of Republican defense contractors was so small, our soldiers did without armored humvees or body armor for YEARS after the illegal invasion of Iraq, leading to the deaths and maiming of countless U.S. military personnel. This also caused family members and friends of those serving in our military try to come-up with armored vehicles or body armor on their own, to get to their children, brothers, sisters, or friends serving over in Iraq under Rumsfeld’s DOD.

Criminally-insane doesn’t even begin to describe Donald Rumsfeld, George W. Bush and Dick Cheney.

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OHHHH my God. That is just too much. Fuck off and die YOU politicians of the United States of America

Hmmm…a little late, eh, General? SMH.

The real question is how many jews really did die and how?

We now know that all this nonsense about jews dying in gas chambers is a lie.

It is also very suspicious that all this talk about holocaust did not start until the sixties.

Little hitler? Give me a break.

The problem is not ahmadinejad or iran or iraq or afghanistan.

The REAL problem is the zionist.

THAT attitude is precisely why China’s going to dominate the world within 20 years. Thanks for all you do!

“Fuck you to Hell”?!? WTF Speak English much?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D-9X3ooFvo

Truth always comes out when probed, an anti Semite, a holocaust denier like the little Hitler are you, so glad there are so few of you on the wrong side. Don’t you ever wonder why almost 10 years later, no politician, or world leader or UN member is talking about war crimes, impeachment, they/you have no case, tea party time just around the corner, Americans have had enough of your kind, come join us.

It does not take a top soldier to tell U.S. that Bush and company went to war on lies , BS and treason to create wealth for war contractors and control over the middle east.
We live it 24/7 for over 8 years now.
It has been in the news and Bush and Cheney have just about confessed on the public broadcasting system.
The only problem I see is why is Bush , Cheney , Rumsfeld , Rove and their other partners in crime still walking our streets.

I think much of the dissatisfaction from liberals and progressives with Obama lies in the fact that the Obama Admin has chosen not to investigate and/or pursue Bush/Cheney for lying the country into a needless and endless war. Never mind the no bid, no oversight contracts handed out to Haliburton and Carlyle owned companies, a clear conflict of interest. And then there was that V. Plame thing, the list goes on and on and on. Clearly the US has a two tier justice system and our democracy is now a joke.

Broccoli-in-Your-Ears, you obviously cannot take the truth. Believe me I know much more than you ever will have the capacity to know or understand. I see no facts at all in your comments just vague, AIPAC-inspired drivel, and false accusations. Luckily the whole world other than AIPAC-run USA and certain Zionist-controlled governments knows the truth. They are even starting to smell the “scent of fascism” within Israel itself. The whole world is already used to being called Anti-Semitic for the slightest hint of any criticism of Israel / Zionists, the so-called “forever-persecuted” nation, even Jews such as Goldtsone et al.

Now here are some decent Jews whom you should try and meet instead of your bloodthirsty AIPAC-zealots:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&hl=uk&v=6RjnvQHWyLE

Looking in the mirror again Broccoli-in-Your-Ears… you know what they say about vanity… and once again making false accusations searching desperately in the dark… carry on guessing, its all you seem to be mentally capable of.

Broccoli-in-Your-Ears, now you’re really showing your lack of grey cells in the empty cavity! You want to know which countries do try their Generals / war criminals? Try Argentina and let’s see, Chile, perhaps? Oh, that’s South America; way beyond your horizon. If you check – sorry, you still have to “learn” – your history (but that’s a few grades beyond first grade so I guess you’ll have to wait) on South America you’ll see that the Grand ‘ol USA installed, trained, financed and supported all those Generals / dictators / war criminals.

Then there is also Cambodia, for example. Oh sorry again, that’s another continent; way past your periphery of intellect.

Knock, knock, time for a bit of dusting up there, I think. Once again, let me suggest first grade if that’s not too trying?

Anyway, stick to the one liners, it matches your capabilities. You know, your only redeeming quality is that you did ask for information. Hey, that’s a sign of wanting to learn! Good boy.

You can start here, for example:

John Pilger’s “The War on Democracy”. Just google it. Oh, that may be a burden so here is the link for you directly:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3739500579629840148#

Happy Learning!

Except the USA and Israel refused to sign up. Hhhmmm, I wonder why? Were they perhaps planning to commit war crimes, brutal, illegal invasions, repression, acts of open hostility, atrocities, breaches of international human rights and the Geneva conventions, torture, ethnic cleansing, assassinations, renditions, denial of habeus corpus, indefinite detention, outright murder, … Let me see… oh no that can’t be – it’s only the most revulsive banana republics that do that.

Yeah but where are these people when you need them, in the heat of the political struggle? It’s easy enough to say “Hitler was a jerk.” after after the.war is over and Germany is in ruins. These military guys all seem to find their fighting spirit and loyalty to the truth after they are retired and pension is secure.

when do the war crimes tribunals start?

this guy should be one of the prosecution’s main witnesses

You lack the perspective required to judge. A military officer is required to be loyal in both word and deed and if they do not perform this basic core duty they are useless to the military as a whole.

If you believe what you are posting you are not only lying but insane. I personally had old friends who were survivors of the camps and the horrors they experienced haunted them to the end of their lives.
A close friend died crying that she had not had the courage to contact the family of a friend who died an atrocious death after dogs had been set loose on her and had left her family in doubt. Go see “Night and Fog.”
The horror man can do to man is beyond belief as though life and nature do not inflict enough suffering on all that lives and dies.

I also knew men who liberated camps and they too carried thesse dreadful images to their graves.
Your belief says much about you.

Loyal to what? The military take an oath to defend the Constitution.
They can always resign.

My first reaction as well – “where were you in 2003?”, now that Shelton has his fat pension and consulting / speaking / writing gigs. But where would he have said it? The press in this country is as captive as the government.

Um, you remember the joke, that we knew Hussein had chemical weapons because we had the receipts? You are right in that the Clintons and the rest of the Democrats don’t have clean hands either, but come on, defending the Bushes isn’t even funny anymore. For all his crazed rhetoric, Ahmadinejad has DONE absolutely NOTHING wrong. Unlike the millions of murders that took place under Bush I, Clinton, Bush II, and Obama.

Holocaust denial, REALLY? We can argue numbers, but come on, we have all seen the footage.

The biggest mistake? Ever getting involved in the Middle East in the first place. This would have happened in the 1920′s.

I feel sorry for them, and their families, but THEY VOLUNTEERED.

You are kidding, right? I can’t believe anyone actually still thinks this way.

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When do the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld war crimes trial begin? Can we make a citizen arrests and have citizen trials if our country refuses to do what’s right? The charge is ‘negligent homicide’. These are the lowest human life-forms and I hope, after a trial and conviction, that these three are lined up and shot dead. Publicly.

Wow, I bet talking like thai almost makes you feel that you escaped puberty. I will compare education with you anytime. I have taught at the University level, despite the extreme Lib bias the pervades fields where people do not have to do real work for a living.

For sure, Israel, fighting for its life from the very beginning has done some bad things. Why don’t you look at the full picture and see what happened to Jewish land and property in Arab countries after Israel was formed in 1948. I am sure that this never even crossed your mind. Just to pick one country, examine this in Morocco, for example. The value of all the lands confiscated by Arabs from Jews, world-wide, after 1948, greatly exceeds the value of anything that may have been lost by Arabs in Palistine.

Somehow, I just can’t get into the Romantic Image of suicide bombers who kill women and children…but you can…To each theri own, I guess.

Vince: It is illegal for active duty military to voice an opinion against the Commander in Chief and his administration. Given the way the Bush A’s handled Valerie Plame and Joe Wilson, I don’t think this would have had any impact. Bush Admin was ruthless and dangerous. We are lucky to have survived as a country … or did we?

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Man, you are on some serious drugs and in dire and immediate need of therapy.

Even though he was replaced as the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs shortly after 9/11, he didn’t retire until 2003. Serving military are not allowed to criticize their commanders under penalty of Court Martial. He was subject to recall to active duty even after he retired.

And, some people just don’t like the spotlight.

While taking the oath is true, the President is the Commander in Chief of the Armed Services. Contemptuous or disrespectful behavior could have resulted in a court-martial.

You’re right.

It is my belief though that Obama won’t pursue any charges against the Bush cabal simply for the precedent it would set. Can you imagine the next President charging Obama for theft because of the TARP or Stimulus programs?

In most civilized countries, the politicians and government workers are generally protected from personal liability for anything done in their job’s name. That is why you can’t sue the individual (in most cases), only the government.

I’m not saying it is right, only that that is the way it is. And few things would give me more pleasure than seeing Cheney sit there as the Judge pronounced him guilty.

A mentally deranged idiot waving a fully auto MAC 10 around hasn’t done anything wrong either. When you substitute a nuclear weapon for that MAC 10 then the stakes just got a lot higher.

And I’m very curious about the millions murdered under Clinton.

The war was legal. The matter was appealed to the courts because Congress didn’t pass a war resolution. The Court ruled that the initial resolution authorizing the President to use force if diplomacy didn’t work was sufficient.
Doe v. Bush, 323 F.3d 133 (1st Cir. 2003)

And yes, it sucks to be lied to. That, however, is a matter for Congress to pursue, not a court.

Yes, good: a political ruling in favor of the president’s “inherent” war powers in the moment – another end run around the hapless national legislature – based on a flawed casus belli, and slathered with lies.

Torture was “legal” too.

Congress will pursue its tail.

You gotta wonder. Who is in need of more dire help? The man who is on drugs or the one reading his words? Rittle (unt

Broccoli-in-Your-Ears, once again you are avoiding the facts and changing the subject just like every truly deceiptful politician does. I just answered your sceptical request for information above and you haven’t got the guts to admit your lack of knowledge and understanding. They must really prep you with lots of detracting counter comments at AIPAC.

“…Israel…has done some bad things…”; there’s an understatement if I ever saw one. Try, genocide, war crimes, brutal, illegal invasions, repression, acts of open hostility, atrocities, breaches of international human rights and the Geneva conventions, torture, ethnic cleansing, assassinations, renditions, denial of habeus corpus, indefinite detention, outright murder and even theft, harrassment, simple maltreatment and bias ON A DAILY BASIS. Indeed, what haven’t they thought of in terms of anything unlawful and immoral that you can possibly do to another human being (or indeed other creatures, but that’s a whole other story?)!

Your Zionist-Nazi ilk cannot even treat your own Jewish dissenters according to international human norms (among many examples: Mordechai Vanunu, Justice Richard Goldstone) let alone other non-Jewish country men and women. You are so blood thirsty with hatred against people who did NOTHING against you (as are almost every one of the Generals / dictators / war crminals discussed above) that you cannot see past your own utterly selfish desires perhaps because your Zionist-ilk controlled international media don’t cover the truly horrific facts of what you do and you simply lick up every drop of what they feed you.

The people you stand up for (and are one yourself) have refined even debasement down to the finest points, as two (again of hundreds) of examples:

http://english.aljazeera.net/video/middleeast/2010/07/201071731516628999.html

http://english.aljazeera.net/focus/2010/07/20107101335494763.html

Perhaps you should start reading other people’s news instead of the garbage-for-so-called-news that your Zionist-Nazi media spew.

Well, you would most probably not be aware of all that goes on because you have your empty top cavity stuck so far up your own other cavity.

Yes and no. Congress still had to provide the funding for the war(s). If Congress disagreed with Bush all they had to do was not provide the money. Instead, they gave him everything because Democrats were too embarrassed to be seen as “unpatriotic”.

ooohhh, I’ll just leave that for others to decide. LOL

This is tuff we know for liberals to understand because there brain lacks logic. Lets try this approach. Iraq unilaterally invaded Kuwait in 91 (yet you complain & say the US did it but they didn‘t, 37+ nations involved, UN, NATO & Arab nations drove Iraq out of Kuwait, Iraq failed to comply to UN Resolution 660, 661,678,686,687,688,707, 715, 986,1284, 1373 (support of terrorist org.), UN Commission on Human Rights violations, inspectors kicked out in 98, battle plans for invasion of Iraq drawn up under Pres. Clinton, oil for food, (all of this took place before Pres. Bush).
Now UN Resolution 1441, deadline came & went, use of force clause enforced, braking cease fire violation, voted on by world body, 15-0, including Arab nations, major powers could have vetoed, WMD’s only one of dozens of reasons in resolution, Bin Laden told us he planed 9/11 years in advance, computer data confirming plan, attempt in 90’s on towers, fatwa on US declared in 90’s. Common since says how does anyone still try & blame this event on 1 man??? Part of the problem lies is that they thought Gore was going to President when they went into Iraq. (Don’t take my ward on any of these facts, many links out there for you, try this one: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_1441), there will be no war crimes or impeachment as you can see, there is no case to stand up against the historical facts, all happing before Bush took office, he carried out what was already in force, rule of law…

The mating call of the weak willed. Walk the walk my friend, think for your self and set your self free. It’s not hard. You can do it! Now if you want to have a conversation you might want to go back to my post that you first responded to and if you don’t understand something then ask. But speaking the way you do hiding behind your computer doesn’t show you to be someone who is easily conversed with (it also shows your cowardice). It just shows you want some sort of verbal run in with someone you don’t have to stand toe to toe with. You don’t want to understand, you only want to be taught, that is why you write to others the way you do before you get the idea. A good way to cause trouble. Children are the most apt to cause trouble, be they adults or minors. Once again.
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Liberals, schmiberals. Conservatives, conschmervatives. Do you work for the gubmint? Divisive shit all the time. It’s time that the rest of the world wake up to the bullshit people like you spew. The government is a duopoly you idiot and you either work for the government or you’re just an idiot. The facts are the facts and there are many. You can’t just pick and choose facts to suit some agenda. If you do, you are like I said, either a government shill or an idiot. So what are you? Now try to answer only my question and let’s see if WE as Americans can figure something out together or are we just victims of WWF of politics.

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“There” brain lacks logic. Bwaaahaaaaa!

Ah, yes, how convenient and typical it is for conservatives to pick and choose only the facts that back up their f’ed up conservative agenda of war for profit, and the hell with all the real facts that might point to the U.S. as an imperial corporate crusader that breeds hatred towards us, especially from extremist groups in these third countries where we extort in and steal their resources, subvert their government, and then leave the place in ruin after corporate america has taken all that they want.

Saddam was taken out for the simple reason that he wouldn’t cut deals with ‘h’ or ‘w’ and america’s big oil companies at discounted prices, and when ‘h’ tried to have Saddam assassinated because he wouldn’t cut a deal, Saddam got pissed off and invaded Kuwait in retaliation, and you know the rest of the story ….

http://www.democracynow.org/2005/5/17/confessions_of_an_economic_hit_man

so, please, if you’re reading this don’t let conservative imbeciles rewrite history according to their own f’ed up imaginary existence.

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Doesn’t anybody find it strange that there is no mention of the WMD reports by BILL CLINTON, the UK, and numerous other foreign sources? Yet you idiots put the entire episode on Bush? Wake up, you idiots!!!

Hmmm…. seems there are many idiots (both ‘libbies AND connies’) here who probably can’t spell their own names without help. For Pete’s sake, people, LEARN TO USE A SPELL CHECKER!!!! Your ignorance is showing and negates any comments you may have made as a so-called ‘person of opinion’. If you came to me for a job, you certainly would NOT be hired.

How can one deny the implication of Israellie Mossad and US government in 9/11 attack?

The Third Reich kept detailed records of how many people were killed in concentration camps, and what kind of people. The German governmrents turned over these records to the occupying powers after the war. The Holocaust was the reason the United Nations authorized the creation of the state of Israel in 1947. Everyone that was liberated from the camps, and the soldiers who freed the camps, told the story of what happened there.

And, in fact, the inspectors were kicked out so that they could not report not finding anything.

Colin Powell was right when he asked “What’s the mission?” The mission of the Kuwait war was to liberate Kuwait from occupation. The 2003 invasion of Iraq had nothing to do with that, or with any lawful justification.

They were kicked out several times, but they were allowed unimpeded access to any site they wished on the run up to the war.

Yeah, the Democrats. At this late date, they probably all need some counseling, to enhance their resilience in debate. Who better to help them than Republicans?

http://www.ethicalpsychology.org/

Aside from that though, “the people” might start asking why the United States government decided to plow up more than 140 years of precedent on torture, and the legal foundation against it, going back to the Lieber Code of 1863.

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Dude, tell me your not for real? You just got schooled in 20 years of a history lesson, no opinion or pick & choosing of facts, posted public records & documents with links & reference to back it up & you still argue? Grow up man, debate with facts & truth instead of name calling or walk of the stage like the ladies from the view did when they were loosing the argument to O’Riley, & you post a link to comedy central to support your argument??? . .. Stay off the blog, your taking up space. And one more thing punk, lets be clear, America is the good guy, those were 3,000 innocent people that died 9/11, this war that has been thrown on the world is because of an ideology clocked in religion & politics that says the world must be one religion (there’s), we must worship there god (there’s), not gona happen. This war’s about to uglier real soon, you better decide who’s side your on, as it looks right now, your not on ours “America”, Home of the free, land of the brave!

other books have been written revealing the same thing, but no one has the backbone to start an investigation and subsequently to bring forth charges.

” He who is not aware of his ignorance will only be misled by his knowledge.” – Richard Whatley

Anyone thinks we haven’t used torture since 1863 is fooling themself. Special ops have routinely used torture. Only we don’t know about it because we didn’t talk about it. Ask any VietNam vet about what happened to prisoners. Too often it wasn’t pretty. Iraq and Afghanistan were no different. Torture is often seen as a quick route to a goal. Often it was to extract information, other times it was just for the sadistic entertainment.

So what if it doesn’t work. Torture is what happens to the enemy, not what you do to yourself. So what if you end up killing the prisoner. He is only an low life, effen enemy who would just as soon kill you.

Does every soldier torture prisoners? Absolutely not.Just enough to give all soldiers and marines a bad name.

Well, sakes alive, I’m sorry for bringing it all up and sounding so naive.

Better to keep fooling ourselves I guess, as the good guys.

“Torture is what happens to the enemy, not what you do to yourself.”

That is revealing, though I’m not sure how exactly. Tell me: are you a military expert? Have you served? Or, as with so many people these days, is it all merely theoretical – this blithe attitude about force and the use of torture?

To suggest that a torturer is himself not harmed in the act, or after – that there’s nothing he does to himself, suggests a lack of emotional awareness.

If you haven’t done it lately, go kick your dog, or deliberately run over a cat, and see how you feel.

My point in citing the Lieber Code is to underscore how far we may have falling, taking into account also the Geneva Convention, whose contents and requirements were called “quaint” by George W. Bush’s attorney general.

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I have never suggested I endorse torture. I don’t. It is among the most base, disgusting, vile, attributes of any human can visit upon another.

Bullying amongst teenagers is just another example if you don’t believe how pervasive it is.

Does the torturer suffer? No, they already lack empathy. Would I kick my dog? Actually I have. She was in a fight with another dog last year. BUT I wouldn’t wantonly just kick her out of meanness.

The wrong by the Bush Administration was in justifying torture with a legal letter claiming “Enhanced Interrogation” was legal. That demonstrated a guilty mind; they effen knew better.

I’m with you, although again, I would think state-sanctioned torturers would suffer, unless all or most were determined to be empathy-challenged beforehand – not a vetting process which stressed military or intelligence bureaucracies would have time for I suspect.

Surely the nation has flirted with a slippery slope here, even if we agree that there have always been incidents of torture in war.

Yeah, the trick of the “legal letter” and the mindset behind it. No input from Congress required. David Addington was quite plain about all this.

Great !!! Then how about the next we have a beer, we give a nod to our meeting of the minds.

You touch on a good point I hadn’t been thinking of earlier. “Would someone ordered to torture have mental issues”. My mistake. Re-reading your earlier posts I see that now. And I don’t know, my assumption would be yes.

Having served, I know there are evaluations of personnel for any assignment, especially high end, sensitive assignments; but, predicting how a person assigned to torture – even one deemed to be “normal” – might react in the present or the future must be impossible.

I react to the world much more as an artist these days, and I just don’t buy the idea that for normal people, being put in a position where harm – sometimes the grievous, immoral harm which is torture – is applied to other people doesn’t cause an emotional reaction at some level.

Some may call it an act of conscience, but that would lead to a discussion about morality, and some realpolitik debaters will have none of it, plus we see psychologists have been involved in this business.

Very well. But there is an emotional dimension in our lives which doesn’t answer to political calculation, everyday moral uplift, or even Freudian slips.

We feel what we feel, unless we can’t, don’t know how, or have experienced conditioning to prevent it.

KNOW YOUR TRUE ENEMY!

THESE ARE THE FACTS:

and this is why political parties should be banned and SOLELY public funds permitted for anyone running for any political office:

The Israel Lobby (John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt):

AIPAC itself, however, forms the core of the Lobby’s influence in Congress. Its success is due to its ability to reward legislators and congressional candidates who support its agenda, and to punish those who challenge it. Money is critical to US elections (as the scandal over the lobbyist Jack Abramoff’s shady dealings reminds us), and AIPAC makes sure that its friends get strong financial support from the many pro-Israel political action committees. Anyone who is seen as hostile to Israel can be sure that AIPAC will direct campaign contributions to his or her political opponents. AIPAC also organises letter-writing campaigns and encourages newspaper editors to endorse pro-Israel candidates.

There is no doubt about the efficacy of these tactics. Here is one example: in the 1984 elections, AIPAC helped defeat Senator Charles Percy from Illinois, who, according to a prominent Lobby figure, had ‘displayed insensitivity and even hostility to our concerns’. Thomas Dine, the head of AIPAC at the time, explained what happened: ‘All the Jews in America, from coast to coast, gathered to oust Percy. And the American politicians – those who hold public positions now, and those who aspire – got the message.’

AIPAC’s influence on Capitol Hill goes even further. According to Douglas Bloomfield, a former AIPAC staff member, ‘it is common for members of Congress and their staffs to turn to AIPAC first when they need information, before calling the Library of Congress, the Congressional Research Service, committee staff or administration experts.’ More important, he notes that AIPAC is ‘often called on to draft speeches, work on legislation, advise on tactics, perform research, collect co-sponsors and marshal votes’.

The bottom line is that AIPAC, a de facto agent for a foreign government, has a stranglehold on Congress, with the result that US policy towards Israel is not debated there, even though that policy has important consequences for the entire world. In other words, one of the three main branches of the government is firmly committed to supporting Israel. As one former Democratic senator, Ernest Hollings, noted on leaving office, ‘you can’t have an Israeli policy other than what AIPAC gives you around here.’ Or as Ariel Sharon once told an American audience, ‘when people ask me how they can help Israel, I tell them: “Help AIPAC.”’

Thanks in part to the influence Jewish voters have on presidential elections, the Lobby also has significant leverage over the executive branch. Although they make up fewer than 3 per cent of the population, they make large campaign donations to candidates from both parties. The Washington Post once estimated that Democratic presidential candidates ‘depend on Jewish supporters to supply as much as 60 per cent of the money’. And because Jewish voters have high turn-out rates and are concentrated in key states like California, Florida, Illinois, New York and Pennsylvania, presidential candidates go to great lengths not to antagonise them.

Key organisations in the Lobby make it their business to ensure that critics of Israel do not get important foreign policy jobs. Jimmy Carter wanted to make George Ball his first secretary of state, but knew that Ball was seen as critical of Israel and that the Lobby would oppose the appointment. In this way any aspiring policymaker is encouraged to become an overt supporter of Israel, which is why public critics of Israeli policy have become an endangered species in the foreign policy establishment.

When Howard Dean called for the United States to take a more ‘even-handed role’ in the Arab-Israeli conflict, Senator Joseph Lieberman accused him of selling Israel down the river and said his statement was ‘irresponsible’. Virtually all the top Democrats in the House signed a letter criticising Dean’s remarks, and the Chicago Jewish Star reported that ‘anonymous attackers … are clogging the email inboxes of Jewish leaders around the country, warning – without much evidence – that Dean would somehow be bad for Israel.’

1. First and foremost, when an organisation, whose only loyalty is to a third country (read AIPAC), has TOTAL CONTROL over every politician in the USA and can TOTALLY MUZZLE any dissent in the entire USA, how can you possibly have a government that is “of the people and for the people”? Then go to the next level and the same applies for: 2. TOTAL AIPAC / Zionist control of the national (and general western for that matter) media; 3. Big business lobby; 4. You cannnot run and stand a chance of getting into office in the USA without access to substantial funds (read AIPAC / Zionist lobby again); and so on…

THIS IS THE ZIONIST’S TRUE NATURE:

(only a few of thousands of such examples)

Jewish settlers proud of their religion and “killing Jesus”:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M539PgDjbas

Israelis kill baby girl and feeds her to dogs. Zionists don’t let parents retrieve baby’s body for 5 days, 2 brothers were shot when they tried to retrieve the body (Google news bans this site):
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=50888

Burning Conscience: Israeli Soldiers Speak Out (I especially like the part between minutes 22:31-24:18 “The Big Brother was watching”):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37MFa7ZKQWo

Video Israel Doesn’t Want You To See (killing a mother of the Palestinian family and destroying their home):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW1-_JmXQt0&feature=related

Palestine Girl vs. Israeli Soldiers (who are killing Palestinian children):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQyIKyd2gqA&feature=related

If Americans Knew What Israel Is Doing (video after being censored, be patient and watch to the end):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynWjYHP91gA&feature=related

Israeli war ship attacks and kills mother and father of a Palestinian family having a picnic on the beach in Gaza:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhVZ0664mck

Journalist Receives Death Threat for Talking About Israel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spXA7GrOcLU&feature=channel

Israel’s BROKEN BONES Policy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0u3yljaMTg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36r8eSmpGx4&feature=related

Rachel Corrie gives a speech as a girl in 5th grade:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUGjzxG5r9Q

Interview with Rachel Corrie on 3/14/2003 (a couple of days before she was murdered by an Israeli):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3JI-axaRF4&NR=1

THIS IS THE ZIONIST MENTALITY:

Mossad and CIA FINANCED the “controlled tortures” of psychologist Zimbardo in 1971 in order to find out which EXACTLY methods of psychological torture can DESTROY the psychic of a normal human.

Below are the links to Zimbardo’s controlled tortures (Zimbardo himself later admitted that those tortures were absolutely unethical, unconscionable and inhumane). [1], [2], [3]

Just to explain to everybody, Zimbardo told his “guards”: “You can create in the prisoners…a sense of fear to some degree, you can create a notion of arbitrariness that their life is TOTALLY controlled by us [Zimbardo was the supervisor of guards and a participant in his controlled tortures]….They [prisoners] will have no freedom of action, they can do nothing, say nothing that we don’t permit…We are going to take away their individuality in various ways.” [4]

And I need to remind everybody again and again (apparently, the memories of Americans are quite dysfunctional) that CIA used Nazis as consultants and that CIA’s former director’s George Bush, Sr.’s daddy, Prescott Bush, was the President of US Bankcorp of New York, the bank that Rothschilds used to FINANCE Nazis and the Holocaust and to launder money for Nazis that escaped into South America after it was clear that Nazis would be defeated WWII. [5], [6], [7].

The historical fact that Zionists FINANCED Nazis and the Holocaust is just ANOTHER evidence that PSYCHOPATHS will kill ANYBODY to achieve their goals.

After Zionists bought Palestine by selling Germany to UK in WWI [8], their goal was to FORCE as many European Jews to emigrate into Palestine as possible, so that psychopaths Rothschilds & Co. could establish the New Zionist World Order with its capital in Jerusalem.

European Jews DID NOT want to live their homes in Europe, so psychopaths Rothschilds & Co. FINANCED and, thus, CREATED, the persecution of Jews in Europe and the Holocaust.

References:

[1] Zimbardo’s Stanford Prison Controlled Tortures:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmwSC5fS40w&feature=related

[2] Interview with Zimbardo on Democracy Now:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0jYx8nwjFQ&NR=1

[3] Zimbardo’s presentation on TED in 2/2008: “Why ordinary people do evil …or do good”- Power Authorities in the System are Makers of Bad Barrels (evil environment) that produce Bad Apples (evil individuals): The SAME situation produces Evils and Heroes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsFEV35tWsg&feature=related

[4] Haslam, S.A., Reichter, S.D. The Psychology of Tyranny. In Scientific American Mind, September / October 2005, at p. 2 of 5:
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=the-psychology-of-tyranny&print=true

[5] Rothschilds financed Nazi Germany, own 60% of Israel land:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40YGZo4J2W0&feature=related

[6] The Rothschilds (Nice pic of Lord Rothschild and Prescott Bush, the Nazi financier at 4:51):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXVJzXsraX4&feature=related

[7] Zeitgeist- Federal Reserve (Part 3 of 5) (Rockefeller’s US Standard Oil; Prescott Bush; financing of Nazi Germany)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kd169qLGRk&NR=1

[8] Ben Freedman on how Zionists got Palestine from international banker Rothschild for selling Germany to Britain in WWI:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjZgLW4c-k0

ZIONISTS LIE THAT MUSLIMS WANT TO KILL EVERYONE – CHECK TRUE HISTORY CONCERNING WHAT MUSLIMS HAVE DONE TO PROTECT JEWS:

Siege of Jerusalem (637):
After the Muslim conquest of Jerusalem, Jews were allowed to live and practice their religion freely in Jerusalem by Caliph Umar – after nearly 500 years of expulsion from the Holy Land by the Romans!

Siege of Jerusalem (1099) by the crusaders:
The Crusaders stormed and captured the city from Fatimid Egypt. 10,000 muslims were killed. Jewish defenders sought refuge in their synagogue, but the “Franks burned it over their heads”, killing everyone inside. One account alleges that the Crusaders circled the flaming building while singing ”Christ, We Adore Thee!, Thee are our light, our direction, our love”!

Siege of Jerusalem (1187) by Saladin:
Upon the capture of Jerusalem, Saladin summoned the Jews and permitted them to resettle in the city. In particular, the residents of Ashkelon, a large Jewish settlement, responded to his request!

Relations between Deir Yassin and its Jewish neighbours had started reasonably well under the Ottomans, particularly early on when Arabic-speaking Sephardic Yemenite Jews comprised much of the surrounding population.

The Deir Yassin massacre took place on 9 April 1948, when around 120 fighters from the Irgun and Lehi Zionist paramilitary groups attacked Deir Yassin near Jerusalem, a Palestinian-Arab village.

Israel currently has 223 Jewish-only settlements and “outposts” built on confiscated Palestinian land.

0 Israeli homes have been demolished by Palestinians and 24,145 Palestinian homes have been demolished by Israel since 1967.

THE PALESTINIANS DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO THE JEWS!

Would one single American simply accept and tolerate the treatment imposed on the Palestinians and not want to protest it, redress it and / or fight tooth and nail against it in every way possible?

The Zionists commit genocide, war crimes, brutal, illegal invasions, repression, acts of open hostility, atrocities, breaches of international human rights and the Geneva conventions, torture, ethnic cleansing, assassinations, renditions, denial of habeus corpus, indefinite detention, outright murder and even theft, harrassment, simple maltreatment and bias ON A DAILY BASIS. Indeed, what haven’t they thought of in terms of anything unlawful and immoral that you can possibly do to another human being (or indeed other creatures, but that’s a whole other story!)?

If the Zionist-Nazi ilk cannot even treat their own Jewish dissenters according to international human norms (among many examples: Mordechai Vanunu, Justice Richard Goldstone) can you imagine how they treat other non-Jewish country men and women? They have refined even debasement down to the finest art; as three (again of hundreds) of examples:

Israel’s ‘street apartheid’:
http://english.aljazeera.net/focus/2010/07/20107101335494763.html

Israel ‘declares war on its people’:
http://english.aljazeera.net/photo_galleries/middleeast/2010106113512196166.html

Israel dumps waste on Palestinians:
http://english.aljazeera.net/video/middleeast/2010/07/201071731516628999.html

HISTORY OF THE ZIONISTS’ MAIN BENEFACTOR (USA):

I also suggest you read up on US history which shows that America (A “SETTLER” NATION ITSELF), built upon stolen and thus “free” land and slave thus “free” labour (the only reason why it is so rich now), has no better reputation which is why they are functionally unable to comprehend the reality of Israeli atrocities.

This is also why the US is the ONLY country on this planet which vetoes EVERY single UNSC vote against Israel WITHOUT EXCEPTION!

Please read up on the Cherokee Nation… “We Shall Remain: American Experience”.

HOWEVER, THE ZIONISTS DO NOT EVEN CARE ABOUT THE USA:

Americans need to be reminded of some past acts of the Zionists (the US’s so-called No.1 ally, keeping in mind this will not include the massacres committed by Irgun, Lehi, Stern’s gang members, or terrorist acts committed against other countries): June 8,1967 Unmarked Israeli warplanes and torpedo boats attacked the U.S.S.Liberty in International waters killing 34 U.S.sailors and Marines. 1979-1981 During the U.S. hostage crisis in Iran Israel was specifically asked to stop supplying Iran with weapons while Iran was holding American hostages. Israel was selling 500 million dollars per year of weapons to Iran even after the U.S. asked Israel to stop. Oct.1983 Israel deliberately allowed 241 U.S.Marines to die as the bombing in Beirut was not reported to the U.S. when Mossad learned of it. 1984 Israel denies U.S.Just.Dept.’s demand to extradite Marc Rich a convicted Israeli spy against America. Aug.1985 Israeli American scientist was arrested for stealing 800 nuclear weapons triggers from the U.S. and sending them to Israel. Nov. 22,1985 Jewish U.S.Navy employee arrested as Israeli spy. Oct.27,1991 Israel inflames race tensions in America by supplying apartheid S.Africa with weapons and forcing the Bush adm. to waive sanctions against Israel. March 1995 Israel is charged with Systemic Harassment of U.S.Marines. Aug.23,1996 CIA accuses Israeli spies of theft of U.S. corporate scientific and technological data as the type of espionage that poses the greatest threat to U.S. economic competitiveness. Sept. 1997 Israel as a haven for Jewish American murderers to flee to and be holed up in,refuses to extradite the Jewish murderer of an American. June 18,1998 Israeli (businessman) convicted for selling chemical and biological weapons components and know-how to Iran for $16 million. Jan.28,1999 Israel transfers laser tech. to communist China despite American outrage. July 30th,1999 Israeli hackers attack the Pentagon. Feb.24,2000 Israel again sells donated U.S. military tech. to communist China in the face of American outrage. Sept.11,2001 Israeli spies are caught cheering and photographing the WTC as it fell. March 15,2002 Israel ignores U.S. demand to leave Palestinian territories damaging American credibility and making America look like a hypocrite for forcing Sadam out of Kuwait but not Sharon out of Palestine. We as people wouldn’t have friends like this, and we shouldn’t as a nation…so why do we? The U.S.’s demand of the separation of church and state needs to be reflected in it’s foreign policy…

THERE IS HOPE:

Luckily the whole world other than AIPAC-run USA and certain Zionist-controlled (Western) governments knows the truth. They are even starting to smell the “scent of fascism” within Israel itself. The whole world is already used to being called Anti-Semitic for the slightest hint of any criticism of Israel / Zionists, the so-called “eternally-persecuted” nation, even Jews themselves such as Justice Richard Goldstone, et al.

Note, all Jews are NOT Zionists; here are some decent Jews:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&hl=uk&v=6RjnvQHWyLE

SO WHAT ABOUT LEGAL REDRESS AND THE INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT (ICC)?:

Well, the USA and Israel refused to sign up. Hhhmmm, I wonder why? Were they perhaps planning to commit war crimes, brutal, illegal invasions, repression, acts of open hostility, atrocities, breaches of international human rights and the Geneva conventions, torture, ethnic cleansing, assassinations, renditions, denial of habeus corpus, indefinite detention, outright murder, … Let me see… oh no that can’t be – it’s only the most revulsive banana republics that do that.

WELL, WHAT CAN I DO?:

FIRSTLY LEARN MORE:

http://www.thewe.cc/contents/more/archive/atrocities.htm

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/

Gaza: The Killing Zone – Israel/Palestine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo59c7zU&feature=fvw

Israeli atrocities in Palestine-MUST WATCH- part1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9Byz2uKmF8&feature=related

THEN START BY BOYCOTTING ISRAELI GOODS AND ZIONIST SUPPORTERS:

Such as:

http://www.bigcampaign.org/

PLEASE PASS ON, USE FREELY AND ADD MORE IF DESIRED !!!

If you are an Anti Semite (which you are) you are the TRUE ENEMY of the world & the cause of war! And God said: Leave my people alone. The Israelites have the a right to live & live in there ancient home land, the promised land. Don’t take up our space with a book that has nothing to do with this topic, take your wicked ways elsewhere & get off line.

amerimike, as with Broccoli-in-Your-Ears (a fellow Nazi AIPAC troll of your’s), your bias is only superseded by your ignorance. Firstly, check out the meaning of the word “Semite” / “Semitic”, which is severely misused nowadays. The Palestinians are “Semites”! Fool.

2. Where did God (SWT) ever say “The Israelites have the SOLE right to live…” anywhere?? Answer: NOWHERE did God (SWT) say any such thing!

3. Where did God ever say that the Jews / Israelites (Zionist element thereof) are allowed to commit genocide, war crimes, brutal, illegal invasions, repression, acts of open hostility, atrocities, breaches of international human rights and the Geneva conventions, torture, ethnic cleansing, assassinations, renditions, organ theft, denial of habeus corpus, indefinite detention, outright murder and even theft, harrassment, simple maltreatment and bias (to name but a few of the Zionists’ sins!) ON A DAILY BASIS? Answer: NOWHERE! All humans are God’s (SWT) people.

You sub-human, satanic Zionists always misquote Holy scriptures to your own heinous interests and ends.

Once again, come out of your closet you Zionist Nazi satanic fiend! God (SWT) will judge you and your ilk in due course!

OK, but, …

Yes there were psychologists involved. What is already well known though is people will tell you anything under torture. Therefore you don’t know if what they are telling you is true or not. So why would they torture?

The FBI have developed interrogation techniques of befriending the accused. Their method is well developed, more satisfying to the interviewer, and much more likely to get a confession, not to mention a confession that would stand up in court.

So why would a high placed official endorse torture when friendly interrogation is available? Why would the interrogators continue when they knew the results were either not working or just being repetitive. I doubt the torturers could have had much of a conscience. Maybe they work in a world where they have convinced themselves they are not allowed a conscience.

Get off the blog punk, wicked human who spreads lies, deceit & evil, read “God’s ward that you might be saved, “God’s promise made to the descendents of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob, the Israelites God’s chosen people, the inheritor of the holy land “the promised land” from the lord Jehovah. God curse to those who curse is chosen people, Palestinians can not be Semites, the Holocaust can only apply to the Jews, only God’s enemies call them Zionist! One only need read the book Geneses not even whole bible to see why they are on the holy land God gave them. We can put down scripture for you but we want you to read it for yourself, Gods ward, the holy bible, absolute truth!!! Keep your hatred in the closet, we don’t want to here or see it punk.

Many regular CIA types squawked about this back in ’03 and ’04.

So back to the “legal letter” issued by Bush’s OLC. No investigation on that, the source of the torture order within the dubious casus belli to invade Iraq.

The British launched an inquiry into torture but not into the invasion.

Here: nothing. But there’s plenty of partisan hollering, tons of chaff every day, such as when a retired officer like Shelton – who by right and tradition may, in retirement, tell his side of the story – is attacked as a partisan.

Swell.

Hey punk… er mike. The only hatred I see is the divisiveness you are spewing. The bible or whatever book does not dictate to me how I should act or think in any given situation. That my punk is for people who cannot think for themselves. If you are so high and mighty on a book that has been constantly changed and updated by different groups of men throughout history then why not choose the words of a man called Jesus (pronounced heysoos, yes it is a Latin name) and love your enemy. Though I will try and love you, it doesn’t mean I have to like you… punk.

Again, get of the blog you destructive little punk, we are having a civil discussion on Iraq! We don’t give a crap nor do we want to here about your racist, bigoted, anti Semite, anti Jew, anti Christian, anti God, view of a class of people because of there skin color, race or belief. The world hates the Hitler’s & Holocaust deniers with it comes war. God said through Moses to Pharaoh “Let my people go”, God is telling you “Leave my people alone” The Jews have a right to live & live in there land. You speak anti Semitism then pretend to be a Christian when challenged, you can’t be a Christian & hate the Jew fool, we love, will defend & protect the Holy Land & Gods chosen people. Now get off the blog punk with your hatred of fellow human beings, crawl back in your hole with Ahmadinejad, bottom of the scum barrel leading the world down the path of war because of wicked ideology that you share, go join Al Qaeda, Taliban, Hamas, Hezbollah, the world rejects your hatred, racism & bigotry, your spreading of lies & evil, we don‘t want to form you kind again.

Love your neighbor as you love your self. Of course if you have no love for your self then I guess you need to do us all a favor and kill your self. Kisses. Arrivaderci worm.

Bonehead, If this is your best response to Hitler lovers, Holocaust deniers, racist, bigoted, anti Semite, anti Jew, anti Christian, anti God, view of a class of people because of there skin color, race (black, white, yellow, red) or belief? You lost us at hello!!!

Yawn

Glad to see that this site works well on my Google phone , everything I want to do is functional. Thanks for keeping it up to date with the latest.

amerimike, you are just like all blood-thirsty, lying, racist, fascist AIPAC-Zionists. You do not answer specific questions, you just glaze over the facts, change the subject and spew your meaningless jibberish. You also wish you could just silence all dissent, just like any good-old dictatorial organisation. AIPAC = The Mark of the Beast.

KNOW YOUR TRUE ENEMY!

THESE ARE THE FACTS:

and this is why political parties should be banned and SOLELY public funds permitted for anyone running for any political office:

The Israel Lobby (John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt):

AIPAC itself, however, forms the core of the Lobby’s influence in Congress. Its success is due to its ability to reward legislators and congressional candidates who support its agenda, and to punish those who challenge it. Money is critical to US elections (as the scandal over the lobbyist Jack Abramoff’s shady dealings reminds us), and AIPAC makes sure that its friends get strong financial support from the many pro-Israel political action committees. Anyone who is seen as hostile to Israel can be sure that AIPAC will direct campaign contributions to his or her political opponents. AIPAC also organises letter-writing campaigns and encourages newspaper editors to endorse pro-Israel candidates.

There is no doubt about the efficacy of these tactics. Here is one example: in the 1984 elections, AIPAC helped defeat Senator Charles Percy from Illinois, who, according to a prominent Lobby figure, had ‘displayed insensitivity and even hostility to our concerns’. Thomas Dine, the head of AIPAC at the time, explained what happened: ‘All the Jews in America, from coast to coast, gathered to oust Percy. And the American politicians – those who hold public positions now, and those who aspire – got the message.’

AIPAC’s influence on Capitol Hill goes even further. According to Douglas Bloomfield, a former AIPAC staff member, ‘it is common for members of Congress and their staffs to turn to AIPAC first when they need information, before calling the Library of Congress, the Congressional Research Service, committee staff or administration experts.’ More important, he notes that AIPAC is ‘often called on to draft speeches, work on legislation, advise on tactics, perform research, collect co-sponsors and marshal votes’.

The bottom line is that AIPAC, a de facto agent for a foreign government, has a stranglehold on Congress, with the result that US policy towards Israel is not debated there, even though that policy has important consequences for the entire world. In other words, one of the three main branches of the government is firmly committed to supporting Israel. As one former Democratic senator, Ernest Hollings, noted on leaving office, ‘you can’t have an Israeli policy other than what AIPAC gives you around here.’ Or as Ariel Sharon once told an American audience, ‘when people ask me how they can help Israel, I tell them: “Help AIPAC.”’

Thanks in part to the influence Jewish voters have on presidential elections, the Lobby also has significant leverage over the executive branch. Although they make up fewer than 3 per cent of the population, they make large campaign donations to candidates from both parties. The Washington Post once estimated that Democratic presidential candidates ‘depend on Jewish supporters to supply as much as 60 per cent of the money’. And because Jewish voters have high turn-out rates and are concentrated in key states like California, Florida, Illinois, New York and Pennsylvania, presidential candidates go to great lengths not to antagonise them.

Key organisations in the Lobby make it their business to ensure that critics of Israel do not get important foreign policy jobs. Jimmy Carter wanted to make George Ball his first secretary of state, but knew that Ball was seen as critical of Israel and that the Lobby would oppose the appointment. In this way any aspiring policymaker is encouraged to become an overt supporter of Israel, which is why public critics of Israeli policy have become an endangered species in the foreign policy establishment.

When Howard Dean called for the United States to take a more ‘even-handed role’ in the Arab-Israeli conflict, Senator Joseph Lieberman accused him of selling Israel down the river and said his statement was ‘irresponsible’. Virtually all the top Democrats in the House signed a letter criticising Dean’s remarks, and the Chicago Jewish Star reported that ‘anonymous attackers … are clogging the email inboxes of Jewish leaders around the country, warning – without much evidence – that Dean would somehow be bad for Israel.’

1. First and foremost, when an organisation, whose only loyalty is to a third country (read AIPAC), has TOTAL CONTROL over every politician in the USA and can TOTALLY MUZZLE any dissent in the entire USA, how can you possibly have a government that is “of the people and for the people”? Then go to the next level and the same applies for: 2. TOTAL AIPAC / Zionist control of the national (and general western for that matter) media; 3. Big business lobby; 4. You cannnot run and stand a chance of getting into office in the USA without access to substantial funds (read AIPAC / Zionist lobby again); and so on…

THIS IS THE ZIONIST’S TRUE NATURE:

(only a few of thousands of such examples)

Jewish settlers proud of their religion and “killing Jesus”:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M539PgDjbas

Israelis kill baby girl and feeds her to dogs. Zionists don’t let parents retrieve baby’s body for 5 days, 2 brothers were shot when they tried to retrieve the body (Google news bans this site):
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=50888

Burning Conscience: Israeli Soldiers Speak Out (I especially like the part between minutes 22:31-24:18 “The Big Brother was watching”):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37MFa7ZKQWo

Video Israel Doesn’t Want You To See (killing a mother of the Palestinian family and destroying their home):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW1-_JmXQt0&feature=related

Palestine Girl vs. Israeli Soldiers (who are killing Palestinian children):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQyIKyd2gqA&feature=related

If Americans Knew What Israel Is Doing (video after being censored, be patient and watch to the end):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynWjYHP91gA&feature=related

Israeli war ship attacks and kills mother and father of a Palestinian family having a picnic on the beach in Gaza:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhVZ0664mck

Journalist Receives Death Threat for Talking About Israel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spXA7GrOcLU&feature=channel

Israel’s BROKEN BONES Policy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0u3yljaMTg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36r8eSmpGx4&feature=related

Rachel Corrie gives a speech as a girl in 5th grade:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUGjzxG5r9Q

Interview with Rachel Corrie on 3/14/2003 (a couple of days before she was murdered by an Israeli):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3JI-axaRF4&NR=1

THIS IS THE ZIONIST MENTALITY:

Mossad and CIA FINANCED the “controlled tortures” of psychologist Zimbardo in 1971 in order to find out which EXACTLY methods of psychological torture can DESTROY the psychic of a normal human.

Below are the links to Zimbardo’s controlled tortures (Zimbardo himself later admitted that those tortures were absolutely unethical, unconscionable and inhumane). [1], [2], [3]

Just to explain to everybody, Zimbardo told his “guards”: “You can create in the prisoners…a sense of fear to some degree, you can create a notion of arbitrariness that their life is TOTALLY controlled by us [Zimbardo was the supervisor of guards and a participant in his controlled tortures]….They [prisoners] will have no freedom of action, they can do nothing, say nothing that we don’t permit…We are going to take away their individuality in various ways.” [4]

And I need to remind everybody again and again (apparently, the memories of Americans are quite dysfunctional) that CIA used Nazis as consultants and that CIA’s former director’s George Bush, Sr.’s daddy, Prescott Bush, was the President of US Bankcorp of New York, the bank that Rothschilds used to FINANCE Nazis and the Holocaust and to launder money for Nazis that escaped into South America after it was clear that Nazis would be defeated WWII. [5], [6], [7].

The historical fact that Zionists FINANCED Nazis and the Holocaust is just ANOTHER evidence that PSYCHOPATHS will kill ANYBODY to achieve their goals.

After Zionists bought Palestine by selling Germany to UK in WWI [8], their goal was to FORCE as many European Jews to emigrate into Palestine as possible, so that psychopaths Rothschilds & Co. could establish the New Zionist World Order with its capital in Jerusalem.

European Jews DID NOT want to live their homes in Europe, so psychopaths Rothschilds & Co. FINANCED and, thus, CREATED, the persecution of Jews in Europe and the Holocaust.

References:

[1] Zimbardo’s Stanford Prison Controlled Tortures:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmwSC5fS40w&feature=related

[2] Interview with Zimbardo on Democracy Now:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0jYx8nwjFQ&NR=1

[3] Zimbardo’s presentation on TED in 2/2008: “Why ordinary people do evil …or do good”- Power Authorities in the System are Makers of Bad Barrels (evil environment) that produce Bad Apples (evil individuals): The SAME situation produces Evils and Heroes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsFEV35tWsg&feature=related

[4] Haslam, S.A., Reichter, S.D. The Psychology of Tyranny. In Scientific American Mind, September / October 2005, at p. 2 of 5:
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=the-psychology-of-tyranny&print=true

[5] Rothschilds financed Nazi Germany, own 60% of Israel land:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40YGZo4J2W0&feature=related

[6] The Rothschilds (Nice pic of Lord Rothschild and Prescott Bush, the Nazi financier at 4:51):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXVJzXsraX4&feature=related

[7] Zeitgeist- Federal Reserve (Part 3 of 5) (Rockefeller’s US Standard Oil; Prescott Bush; financing of Nazi Germany)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kd169qLGRk&NR=1

[8] Ben Freedman on how Zionists got Palestine from international banker Rothschild for selling Germany to Britain in WWI:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjZgLW4c-k0

ZIONISTS LIE THAT MUSLIMS WANT TO KILL EVERYONE – CHECK TRUE HISTORY CONCERNING WHAT MUSLIMS HAVE DONE TO PROTECT JEWS:

Siege of Jerusalem (637):
After the Muslim conquest of Jerusalem, Jews were allowed to live and practice their religion freely in Jerusalem by Caliph Umar – after nearly 500 years of expulsion from the Holy Land by the Romans!

Siege of Jerusalem (1099) by the crusaders:
The Crusaders stormed and captured the city from Fatimid Egypt. 10,000 muslims were killed. Jewish defenders sought refuge in their synagogue, but the “Franks burned it over their heads”, killing everyone inside. One account alleges that the Crusaders circled the flaming building while singing ”Christ, We Adore Thee!, Thee are our light, our direction, our love”!

Siege of Jerusalem (1187) by Saladin:
Upon the capture of Jerusalem, Saladin summoned the Jews and permitted them to resettle in the city. In particular, the residents of Ashkelon, a large Jewish settlement, responded to his request!

Relations between Deir Yassin and its Jewish neighbours had started reasonably well under the Ottomans, particularly early on when Arabic-speaking Sephardic Yemenite Jews comprised much of the surrounding population.

The Deir Yassin massacre took place on 9 April 1948, when around 120 fighters from the Irgun and Lehi Zionist paramilitary groups attacked Deir Yassin near Jerusalem, a Palestinian-Arab village.

Israel currently has 223 Jewish-only settlements and “outposts” built on confiscated Palestinian land.

0 Israeli homes have been demolished by Palestinians and 24,145 Palestinian homes have been demolished by Israel since 1967.

THE PALESTINIANS DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO THE JEWS!

Would one single American simply accept and tolerate the treatment imposed on the Palestinians and not want to protest it, redress it and / or fight tooth and nail against it in every way possible?

The Zionists commit genocide, war crimes, brutal, illegal invasions, repression, acts of open hostility, atrocities, breaches of international human rights and the Geneva conventions, torture, ethnic cleansing, assassinations, renditions, organ theft, denial of habeus corpus, indefinite detention, outright murder and even theft, harrassment, simple maltreatment and bias ON A DAILY BASIS. Indeed, what haven’t they thought of in terms of anything unlawful and immoral that you can possibly do to another human being (or indeed other creatures, but that’s a whole other story!)?

If the Zionist-Nazi ilk cannot even treat their own Jewish dissenters according to international human norms (among many examples: Mordechai Vanunu, Justice Richard Goldstone) can you imagine how they treat other non-Jewish country men and women? They have refined even debasement down to the finest art; as three (again of hundreds) of examples:

Israel’s ‘street apartheid’:
http://english.aljazeera.net/focus/2010/07/20107101335494763.html

Israel ‘declares war on its people’:
http://english.aljazeera.net/photo_galleries/middleeast/2010106113512196166.html

Israel dumps waste on Palestinians:
http://english.aljazeera.net/video/middleeast/2010/07/201071731516628999.html

HISTORY OF THE ZIONISTS’ MAIN BENEFACTOR (USA):

I also suggest you read up on US history which shows that America (A “SETTLER” NATION ITSELF), built upon stolen and thus “free” land and slave thus “free” labour (the only reason why it is so rich now), has no better reputation which is why they are functionally unable to comprehend the reality of Israeli atrocities.

This is also why the US is the ONLY country on this planet which vetoes EVERY single UNSC vote against Israel WITHOUT EXCEPTION!

Please read up on the Cherokee Nation… “We Shall Remain: American Experience”.

HOWEVER, THE ZIONISTS DO NOT EVEN CARE ABOUT THE USA:

Americans need to be reminded of some past acts of the Zionists (the US’s so-called No.1 ally, keeping in mind this will not include the massacres committed by Irgun, Lehi, Stern’s gang members, or terrorist acts committed against other countries): June 8,1967 Unmarked Israeli warplanes and torpedo boats attacked the U.S.S.Liberty in International waters killing 34 U.S.sailors and Marines. 1979-1981 During the U.S. hostage crisis in Iran Israel was specifically asked to stop supplying Iran with weapons while Iran was holding American hostages. Israel was selling 500 million dollars per year of weapons to Iran even after the U.S. asked Israel to stop. Oct.1983 Israel deliberately allowed 241 U.S.Marines to die as the bombing in Beirut was not reported to the U.S. when Mossad learned of it. 1984 Israel denies U.S.Just.Dept.’s demand to extradite Marc Rich a convicted Israeli spy against America. Aug.1985 Israeli American scientist was arrested for stealing 800 nuclear weapons triggers from the U.S. and sending them to Israel. Nov. 22,1985 Jewish U.S.Navy employee arrested as Israeli spy. Oct.27,1991 Israel inflames race tensions in America by supplying apartheid S.Africa with weapons and forcing the Bush adm. to waive sanctions against Israel. March 1995 Israel is charged with Systemic Harassment of U.S.Marines. Aug.23,1996 CIA accuses Israeli spies of theft of U.S. corporate scientific and technological data as the type of espionage that poses the greatest threat to U.S. economic competitiveness. Sept. 1997 Israel as a haven for Jewish American murderers to flee to and be holed up in,refuses to extradite the Jewish murderer of an American. June 18,1998 Israeli (businessman) convicted for selling chemical and biological weapons components and know-how to Iran for $16 million. Jan.28,1999 Israel transfers laser tech. to communist China despite American outrage. July 30th,1999 Israeli hackers attack the Pentagon. Feb.24,2000 Israel again sells donated U.S. military tech. to communist China in the face of American outrage. Sept.11,2001 Israeli spies are caught cheering and photographing the WTC as it fell. March 15,2002 Israel ignores U.S. demand to leave Palestinian territories damaging American credibility and making America look like a hypocrite for forcing Sadam out of Kuwait but not Sharon out of Palestine. We as people wouldn’t have friends like this, and we shouldn’t as a nation…so why do we? The U.S.’s demand of the separation of church and state needs to be reflected in it’s foreign policy…

THERE IS HOPE:

Luckily the whole world other than AIPAC-run USA and certain Zionist-controlled (Western) governments knows the truth. They are even starting to smell the “scent of fascism” within Israel itself. The whole world is already used to being called Anti-Semitic for the slightest hint of any criticism of Israel / Zionists, the so-called “eternally-persecuted” nation, even Jews themselves such as Justice Richard Goldstone, et al.

Note, all Jews are NOT Zionists; here are some decent Jews:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&hl=uk&v=6RjnvQHWyLE

SO WHAT ABOUT LEGAL REDRESS AND THE INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT (ICC)?:

Well, the USA and Israel refused to sign up. Hhhmmm, I wonder why? Were they perhaps planning to commit war crimes, brutal, illegal invasions, repression, acts of open hostility, atrocities, breaches of international human rights and the Geneva conventions, torture, ethnic cleansing, assassinations, renditions, denial of habeus corpus, indefinite detention, outright murder, … Let me see… oh no that can’t be – it’s only the most revulsive banana republics that do that.

WELL, WHAT CAN I DO?:

FIRSTLY LEARN MORE:

http://www.thewe.cc/contents/more/archive/atrocities.htm

Gaza: The Killing Zone – Israel/Palestine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo59c7zU&feature=fvw

Israeli atrocities in Palestine-MUST WATCH- part1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9Byz2uKmF8&feature=related

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Please do not re-post this again. If you do it one more time, you will be banned. Thanks, Raw Story moderators.

Sounds like the (AIPAC-controlled) mainstream media – smother the truth!

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I do not understand… did he post this too many times? Why will you ban him if he posts it again. I see all kinds of BS on this blog most of the time, so why’s elf’s any different. I really don’t know about any of that stuff… I’m just wondering.

My only comment is: Male-Dominated “religion” has caused more death, destruction, pain and suffering than anything else is since Male-Dominated “religions’ have started. When those of you who follow Male-Dominated religion stop using it to push your own agenda, Mother Earth will be a better place to live. Go focus on the women and children that Male-Dominated religions have raped, maimed and harmed.

I quite understand. These long interminable lists are not comments and serve only to clog up a comments section. If this person want to write articles, let him do it. This is not the place to post outlines for a book.

I see. I do not see the point of those long lists nor do I have the time to read them. Also, I have learned a lot about posting comments. I understand these places are a place for people to vent their feelings some of the time and act like children. i am not innocent from this but I have learned something great about human nature and appreciate the opportunity to share. i think there probably are very bad people in the world and seek to control a great deal of this world. i can only walk my path and treat others as I wish to be treated. So, thank your answer.

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I understand the spamming issue, hounddogg, the problem is that the mainstream media is filled with anti-Palestinian, pro-Nazi-Zionist-AIPAC produced bias ALL DAY, EVERY DAY. Almost every article on this website, whether to do with US economic problems, Iraq, Afghanistan, Democratic / Republican senators, governors, etc etc can all be traced back to the fundamental problem in this country, which is that the US-Government is TOTALLY CONTROLLED by AIPAC. Look at the names of the majority of senior staff in almost every Department of the Government and you will see what I mean. Furthermore, the fact is that the readers here read one article and its set of comments and then new articles come out. If my posting is only permitted once, the news only gets out once and future readers have no idea about it. Compare that to the ALL DAY, EVERY DAY lie sthat the mainstream media spew out. That is the relevant comparison, in my humble opinion.

look..i agree with a lot of what you say, but posting the same long statement, with a lot of links attached, on lots of different threads, is not the way to get the message across…it just makes people think you are nuts…Raw is one of the very few news sites that do not delete posts that are critical of Israel, and gives both sides the opportunity to express their opinion on this very volatile and important issue…less is more a lot of the time…when you try to force information down someones throat, it has a habit of coming back at you as vomit…peace…

I understand you want to get out your message but if one person or persons takes over a blog, with multiple posting of the same post it drives other readers away because people don’t like seeing the same post over and over, especially long ones. They won’t be read.
If you want to post long lists or articles as many times as you want you must create your own blog.

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This is in response to AMERIMIKE,this guy is a useful idiot.Jews are converted KHAZARS,they adopted judaism(satanism)in 740 black see kingdom.
Revelation 2:9,,3:9,jews are the Synagogue of satan,impostors,fake,liars.
The Bible
Relates that the Khazar (Ashkenaz) Jews were/are the sons of Japheth not Shem:
“Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood. The sons of Japheth;…the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz…”
(Genesis 10:1-3)
Therefore, the Bible proves that the Ashkenaz Jews [Khazars] are not the descendants of Shem and cannot be Semite.

Encyclopedia Britannica (15th edition):
“Khazars, confederation of Turkic and Iranian tribes that established a major commercial empire in the second half of the 6th century, covering the southeastern section of modern European Russia… In the middle of the 8th century the ruling classes adopted Judaism as their religion.

The Jewish Encyclopedia:
“Khazars, a non-Semitic, Asiatic, Mongolian tribal nation who emigrated into Eastern Europe about the first century, who were converted as an entire nation to Judaism in the seventh century by the expanding Russian nation which absorbed the entire Khazar population, and who account for the presence in Eastern Europe of the great numbers of Yiddish-speaking Jews in Russia, Poland, Lithuania, Galatia, Besserabia and Rumania.

The Encyclopedia Judaica (1972):
“Khazars, a national group of general Turkic type, independent and sovereign in Eastern Europe between the seventh and tenth centuries C.E. During part of this time the leading Khazars professed Judaism… In spite of the negligible information of an archaeological nature, the presence of Jewish groups and the impact of Jewish ideas in Eastern Europe are considerable during the Middle Ages. Groups have been mentioned as migrating to Central Europe from the East often have been referred to as Khazars, thus making it impossible to overlook the possibility that they originated from within the former Khazar Empire.

The Encyclopedia Judaica, Vol. 10, (1971) relates the following about the Khazars (Chazars):
“Khazars, a national group of general Turkic type, independent and sovereign in Eastern Europe between the seventh and tenth centuries A.D. During part of this time the leading Khazars professed Judaism.”
(Encyclopedia Judicia, Vol. 10, (1971)

The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia:
“Khazars, a medieval people, probably related to the Volga Bulgars, whose ruling class adopted Judaism during the 8th cent. The Khazars seem to have emerged during the 6th cent., from the vast nomadic Hun (Turki) empire which stretched from the steppes of Eastern Europe and the Volga basin to the Chinese frontier. Although it is often claimed that allusions to the Khazars are found as early as 200 C.E., actually they are not mentioned until 627…Most Jewish Historians date the conversion of the Khazar King to Judaism during the first half of this century {A.D.}.

Academic American Encyclopedia, Deluxe Library Edition, Volume 12, page 66 states:
“The Khazars, a Turkic people, created a commercial and political empire that dominated substantial parts of South Russia during much of the 7th through 10th centuries. during the 8th century the Khazar aristocracy and the Kagan (King) were converted to Judaism.

Collier’ s Encyclopedia, Volume 14, page 65 states:
“Khazars [kaza'rz], a semi-nomadic tribe of Turkish or Tatar origin who first appeared north of the Caucasus in the early part of the third century…in the Eighth Century Khaghan Bulan decided in favor of the Jews and accepted Judaism for himself and for his people.

The Jewish author, Arthur Koestler ,The Thirteenth Tribe,
Facts are Facts by Benjamin Freedman:
The Jews of Khazaria by Kevin Alan Brook
The Kuzari and the Shaping of Jewish Identity, 1167–1900 by Adam Shear
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your tribe is losing. VERY slowly and yes, it is over the long haul, your tribe IS losing. I honestly don’t know if this losing has reached critical mass as yet, but it is an inexorable process that IS proceeding apace. Thank God for that process.

in point of fact, n one has ever seen any sort of film, nor sequential photos of Jews being led off of trains; marched to gas chambers, forced to strop naked; forced into those gas chambers; then dead bodies removed from the gas chambers; then loaded into ovens; then ashes put where ever the Nazis apprently hid those ashes; which would have been measured in tons, fro 6 billion dead bodies. No acutaly documentation at all. btw, I do NOT count as evidence, the Hollywood movie made by Steven Spielberg as an sort of real evidence.

just because some Jews were killed, does NOTmean that Jews have carte blanche to rob, rape, steal body organs, murder, incinerate with whit phosphorous, cause economic disaster, and all of the rest of it, on the billions of non Jews on Planet Earth. If that is your premise, that mass murder stopped 65 years ago, gives Jews a free pass (forever) to perpetrate atrocity upon human kind, then you are a sociopathic Jew your own self. and by virtues of your 5,000 years of matriarchal inbreeding, not insane as much as unsane, and not quite human; as the rest of humanity defines itself as being human.

And yes, I DO take note of the non stop filthy Rabbi statements of non Jews being Beasts, which walk on two legs and have no souls. Those odious creatures constantly make those hate speech statements ALL of the time.

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