Whistleblower reveals ‘systematic’ humiliation of detainees

By David Edwards
Wednesday, October 13, 2010 13:12 EST
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Videos suggest detainees were routinely subjected to emotional assaults

A former US soldier in Iraq has come forward with video of his fellow soldiers subjecting Iraqi detainees to what he describes as “mental, emotional, degrading” abuse.

US Army Specialist Ethan McCord was a member of Bravo Company, 2nd Battalion, 16th Infantry, the same unit that was involved in a 2007 helicopter attack in Baghdad shown in a leaked video released last April by WikiLeaks.

“I started to ‘acquire’ these videos and some pictures once I realized that what we are doing in Iraq is wrong,” McCord wrote on Wednesday in a blog entry at MichaelMoore.com. “These videos are of detainee abuse. Not the type of abuse that’s physical, but the mental, emotional, degrading type.”

In the three brief clips, soldiers are shown harassing a handcuffed and blindfolded detainee in a variety of ways. In one, a soldier repeatedly orders a detainee to hold his hands up and then put them down again — a sequence which McCord says went on for 45 minutes.

Another shows a soldier asking a terrified detainee, “Are you militia” and telling him he is “going to go to prison for that,” until being ordered to “stop talking to the detainees.” In the third, a soldier sings loudly and mockingly into the ear of a man who was detained for having an AK-47 in his home.

The use of deliberate humiliation as a means of softening up detainees prior to questioning became particularly notorious in connection with the Abu Ghraib scandal and was examined in detail in Errol Morris’s critically-acclaimed 2008 documentary Standard Operating Procedure.

“The MPs speak frankly, if not always lucidly, about conditions at the prison and the vague orders from higher-ups that allowed them to believe what they were doing was somehow OK,” Slate’s Dana Stevens wrote of the film. “They saw themselves as ‘softening up’ detainees for the real questioning that would take place later behind closed doors.”

“My two cents worth of opinion,” Morris told an interviewer, “is that this is not just a war of humiliation but a war of sexual humiliation at its core, and the entire foreign policy. I wouldn’t even think it’s fair to say that America has a foreign policy in the years since 9/11, but if it has had a foreign policy, the foreign policy is, show them whose [sic] boss, humiliate them like they have humiliated us.”

Although the harassment shown in McCord’s clips does not rise to the same level of sexual abuse as was present at Abu Ghraib, it appears to be similarly designed to “show them who’s boss” and break down the detainees’ will to resist.

“I’ve held on to these for three years now, debating on how to release them responsibly,” McCord writes. “I want to point out, first hand, that these soldiers are doing EXACTLY as they have been trained. I’m not trying to excuse their behavior, but simply pointing out that this is a systematic problem. While your anger may initially be placed with the soldiers in the videos, I think your anger should be directed towards the system that trained them.”

This is not the first time that McCord has spoken out since the release last April of the WikiLeaks “Collateral Murder” video. As summarized by Dan Froomkin at Huffington Post, that video shows “a U.S. Army Apache helicopter in Baghdad in 2007 repeatedly opening fire on a group of men that included a Reuters photographer and his driver — and then on a van that stopped to rescue one of the wounded men. None of the members of the group were taking hostile action, contrary to the Pentagon’s initial cover story.”

According to Wired, on the day of the attack, McCord’s platoon was battling insurgents when they “got orders to investigate a nearby street. When they arrived, they found a scene of fresh carnage — the scattered remains of a group of men, believed to be armed, who had just been gunned down by Apache attack helicopters. They also found 10-year-old Sajad Mutashar and his five-year-old sister Doaha covered in blood in a van. Their 43-year-old father, Saleh, had been driving them to a class when he spotted one of the wounded men moving in the street and drove over to help him, only to become a victim of the Apache guns. McCord was captured in a video shot from one helicopter as he ran frantically to a military vehicle with Sajad in his arms seeking medical care.”

“I was pretty distraught over the whole situation with the children,” McCord told Wired. “So I went to a sergeant and asked to see [the mental health person], because I was having a hard time dealing with it. I was called a pussy and that I needed to suck it up and a lot of other horrible things. I was also told that there would be repercussions if I was to go to mental health. … I was told that I needed to get the sand out of my vagina…. So I just sucked it up and tried to move on with everything.”

“I’ve lived with seeing the children that way since the incident happened,” McCord continued. “I’ve had nightmares. I was diagnosed with chronic, severe PTSD. [But] I was actually starting to get kind of better. … I wasn’t thinking about it as much. [Then I] took my children to school one day and I came home and sat down on the couch and turned on the TV with my coffee, and on the news I’m running across the screen with a child. The flood of emotions came back.”

Immediately after the release of the WikiLeaks video, McCord and another former soldier issued “An Open Letter of Reconciliation & Responsibility to the Iraqi People” which stated, “We write to you, your family, and your community with awareness that our words and actions can never restore your losses. … What we seek is to learn from our mistakes and do everything we can to tell others of our experiences and how the people of the United States need to realize we have done and are doing to you and the people of your country. We humbly ask you what we can do to begin to repair the damage we caused.”

Last July, McCord spoke about the video to attendees at a United Nations Peace Conference. “If this video disgusts you, it should,” he told the audience. “It happens daily in Iraq. … The rules of engagement in 2007 when this happened was, ‘If you feel threatened by anybody, you’re able to engage that person.’ Many soldiers felt threatened just by the fact that you were looking at them, so they fired their weapons at anybody who was looking at them, because ‘I felt threatened.’”

“We were told that if we were to fire our weapons at people and we were to be investigated, officers would take care of you,” McCord continued. “We were given orders for 360 degree rotational fire whenever we were hit with an IED. We were told by our battalion commander to kill every motherfucker on the street. … If you didn’t fire, the NCOs in your platoon would make your life hell.”

These videos were uploaded to YouTube Oct. 12, 2010.

David Edwards
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David Edwards has served as an editor at Raw Story since 2006. His work can also be found at Crooks & Liars, and he's also been published at The BRAD BLOG. He came to Raw Story after working as a network manager for the state of North Carolina and as as engineer developing enterprise resource planning software. Follow him on Twitter at @DavidEdwards.
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  • hauksdottir

    And Bush cocked his hip in front of the mirror… before swaggering out of the room.

  • Anonymous

    Oh to be shocked, but this is rather old news . . .

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  • Anonymous

    These are Obama’s Wars now, moron. Bush is somewhere in the rear-view mirror.

  • Anonymous

    Perhaps, but actually they’re probably more the CIA’s wars . . .

    Face it, the POTUS is not King or Divine and American history has examples of the executive who dared go a step too far. Would you really want to cross both the DoD and the CIA in your first couple of years in office . . .? Would that help reach the ultimate goal of disengagement?

    And they’ll always be Bush’s wars – he started them but didn’t have the wherewithal to end them.

  • mick

    Actually if you “want to say it as it is ” THESE ARE AMERICAS WARS and there both cluster fucks ,Superpower in name ,third world in fact.

  • Anonymous

    I would venture that these videos are pretty much on the tame side….. and that there are a hell of alot more out there that are much, much more lurid.

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  • Anonymous

    So I wonder how long it’ll be until they throw him in prison for coming forward with attrocities. The army oath says, “I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic”. He actually did his job by coming forth and they’ll likely toss him in jail.

  • http://twitter.com/der_bluthund Der Bluthund

    Actually, America and the UK are being used in the New World Order’s illegal Wars of Trade. Our national leaders should be at the War Crimes Tribunal at the Hague for this…

  • Anonymous

    Obama defends this stuff several times a day, every single day. Barack Obama is a madman.

  • Anonymous

    god made them do it… it’s in the bible… the holy book inspired by their uh, holy god.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_N4XYNMIJDR6F2PZIQTO2JBH6WI johnr

    But The Surge Worked !! and now we have a pro Iranian government in Iraq

  • Anonymous

    These are our heroes? The Armed Forces especially the Marines and Army are full of left over trash from our society, add to them the extremes of war and this is the end result.

  • Anonymous

    Pretty soon as Iraqies realize our dehumanization of their fellow countrymen, Iran and Iarq will be defence parteners.

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  • Anonymous

    This guys are why when I hear of them being killed, maimed, or getting “their” heads fucked I laugh! I want more of these fucking low-life heroes sent home in body bags.

    These are the cunts of the United States Armed Forces. CUNTS!

  • Anonymous

    It is not humiliation, it is to make them Muslims feel that they are no more than earthworms to USA and Europe. America hates Muslims, living in Muslim countries or in USA.

  • Anonymous

    The depths of American soldiers’ dishonour knows no limits and neither does that of their families nor the general American public at large. I doubt if more than a handful of American people have the intelligence to ever think about how they would feel to be treated like this by invading foreigners. If one grain of sand worth off a beachfull of atrocities was committed against one single American (unless of course he was a non-Zionist or muslim such as the Turkish-origin Gaza Freedom Flotilla US citizen assassinated in cold blood and totally ignored by the US Goverment) America would pursue that nation into oblivion. The America of today is worse than Atilla-the-Hun and any other of the worst-of-the-worst in human history.

  • Anonymous

    Mossad and CIA FINANCED the “controlled tortures” of psychologist Zimbardo in 1971 in order to find out which EXACTLY methods of psychological torture can DESTROY the psychic of a normal human.

    Below are the links to Zimbardo’s controlled tortures (Zimbardo himself later admitted that those tortures were absolutely unethical, unconscionable and inhumane). [1], [2], [3]

    Just to explain to everybody, Zimbardo told his “guards”: “You can create in the prisoners…a sense of fear to some degree, you can create a notion of arbitrariness that their life is TOTALLY controlled by us [Zimbardo was the supervisor of guards and a participant in his controlled tortures]….They [prisoners] will have no freedom of action, they can do nothing, say nothing that we don’t permit…We are going to take away their individuality in various ways.” [4]

    And I need to remind everybody again and again (apparently, the memories of Americans are quite dysfunctional) that CIA used Nazis as consultants and that CIA’s former director’s George Bush, Sr.’s daddy, Prescott Bush, was the President of US Bankcorp of New York, the bank that Rothschilds used to FINANCE Nazis and the Holocaust and to launder money for Nazis that escaped into South America after it was clear that Nazis would be defeated WWII. [5], [6], [7].

    The historical fact that Zionists FINANCED Nazis and the Holocaust is just ANOTHER evidence that PSYCHOPATHS will kill ANYBODY to achieve their goals.

    After Zionists bought Palestine by selling Germany to UK in WWI [8], their goal was to FORCE as many European Jews to emigrate into Palestine as possible, so that psychopaths Rothschilds & Co. could establish the New Zionist World Order with its capital in Jerusalem.

    European Jews DID NOT want to live their homes in Europe, so psychopaths Rothschilds & Co. FINANCED and, thus, CREATED, the persecution of Jews in Europe and the Holocaust.

    References:

    [1] Zimbardo’s Stanford Prison Controlled Tortures:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmwSC5fS40w&feature=related

    [2] Interview with Zimbardo on Democracy Now:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0jYx8nwjFQ&NR=1

    [3] Zimbardo’s presentation on TED in 2/2008: “Why ordinary people do evil …or do good”- Power Authorities in the System are Makers of Bad Barrels (evil environment) that produce Bad Apples (evil individuals): The SAME situation produces Evils and Heroes:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsFEV35tWsg&feature=related

    [4] Haslam, S.A., Reichter, S.D. The Psychology of Tyranny. In Scientific American Mind, September / October 2005, at p. 2 of 5:
    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=the-psychology-of-tyranny&print=true

    [5] Rothschilds financed Nazi Germany, own 60% of Israel land:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40YGZo4J2W0&feature=related

    [6] The Rothschilds (Nice pic of Lord Rothschild and Prescott Bush, the Nazi financier at 4:51):
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXVJzXsraX4&feature=related

    [7] Zeitgeist- Federal Reserve (Part 3 of 5) (Rockefeller’s US Standard Oil; Prescott Bush; financing of Nazi Germany)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kd169qLGRk&NR=1

    [8] Ben Freedman on how Zionists got Palestine from international banker Rothschild for selling Germany to Britain in WWI:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjZgLW4c-k0

  • Anonymous

    This is nothing new. In 1700 and 1800 they did even worse things with the Indians, including scalping them. I am surprised that these idiots did not take on scalping as well. They are not soldiers, they are scum!

  • Anonymous

    These prisoners are already scared as Hell. Taunting them will make them think about what’s really happening and realize their captors are immoral asses and do not even deserve to be feared. By the time they are taken to be interrogated, they are probably the opposite of being “softened up.”

    When (if) these prisoners go home, they will likely tell everyone how Americans are dishonorable. Thanks to our “brave” soldiers who are just “blowing off steam.” We are not the USA that won WWII. We are now the USA that grew up playing video games and trying to live the fiction of action movies by joining the military.

  • Anonymous

    “After Zionists bought Palestine by selling Germany to UK in WWI.”

    Is there anything these fucking Zionists can’t do? You previously blogged that they control every politician in the U.S.

    I have a question: Do they also control the Scientologists ?

    Thanks in advance for you anticipated incisive response.
    .

  • Anonymous

    Read Milgram’s experiments on the ease of influencing American college students to administer painful or even lethal electric shocks to other people. The vast majority of German people approved of Hitler’s anti-Semitic programs as well. Most humans can be herded like sheep by a bad shepherd.

  • Anonymous

    As a nation immunized against torture, atrocities and flagrant violations of international law, the United States of America have declared war on humanity, ethics and natural law under the presidency of a baffled Barack Obama, an irretrievably corrupt Congress and the resurgent fascist core of the Republican hordes.

    Under the Axis, German, Italian and Japanese fascists caused over 60 million human beings to be killed in the short six years of World War II.

    How many more massacred millions will satisfy the gloating fascists running the American empire down to its inevitable demise?

  • Anonymous

    I wonder if it is avoidable at all. Innocent dieing or receiving a harsh treatment. Before it was simpler. You just bombed a town and killed thousands without any complaining. Today you go to war and risk getting hell if innocent die. What about all the soldiers seeing their friends die. You expect them to say no problems and smile to people who most likely hate them ? Are they not sort of innocent in that faking war ? But hey how can you Winn a war fighting Muslims the nice way ? You cant. Only with a nuclear bomb .

  • http://harry-canary.myopenid.com/ Harry Canary

    No, wall street is full of the left over trash from our society

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, why do the locals hate our soldiers? Its. Just. Not. Fair. Goshdarnit.

  • Anonymous

    Destroying the psychic of a normal human. What do you call brainwashing children into believing inn Islam or any other religion ordering killing of innocent people. If that is not destroying the psychic of the human mind, I dont know what is.

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  • Anonymous

    It’s a known fact Easterners don’t value human life like we do.

    Direct threats require decisive action.
    -Dick Cheney

  • Anonymous

    Oh, those poor F*cking terrorists! They just finished killing a few dozen of our boys and Specialist McCord wants to have a tea party with these guys! Someone should have told this bitch of a sissy Ms. McCord to keep his skirt on, and not join the US Army. He should leave that to the brave men and women that can handle it. Because WAR is HELL, it is mentally and emotionally degrading no matter what you do, who you are, or where you at in it! It is not pretty, you are not there for a dance party, WAKE THE HELL UP! SON, YOU ARE AT WAR!!!!

  • http://twitter.com/bysikim Christof Dyson

    ‘It’s a known fact Easterners don’t value human life like we do.’

    aka – cultural difference

    & God bless Cultural differences = aka America

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  • http://twitter.com/rmoore08 Ryan Moore

    You sir, are a douche bag.

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YYKPBFTGA3LM54NAVLCYVAXHD4 JustM

    America reveals its Nazi core. Time to stare into the mirror and face the lie of all that ‘democracy’ and ‘freedom’ and Aryan supremacy.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YYKPBFTGA3LM54NAVLCYVAXHD4 JustM

    the only terrorists I see are the US military babykillers illegally in a foreign country. You set foot illegally in a foreign land, you are the terrorist and people are entitled under international law to kill you. Oh, I forgot, America doesnt believe in ‘international law.’ Just torture and stealing other countries oil. PS. War is hell allright – however, what the US is doing is technically ‘terrorism’ not war.

  • Anonymous

    So, if it were your father killed at the world trade center attack, or your mother in Yemen, or your sister in Africa, or brother in Germany, or you in the Tunnel in London. How many times must someone attack you before you strike back? If you don’t think we’ve been attacked then you sir are delusional. Just take a look at any of the Taliban supported websites and they will boast of how they have killed the American’s and will not stop until they are ALL dead. It if don’t believe me read for yourself. http://celebrifi.com/gossip/Alqaeda-magazine-teaches-how-to-kill-Americans-3720445.html and for those of us that care about our Mothers, sisters, and daughters the Taliban and Al Qaeda would rather kill women than allow them to be free, no less read. If you think we are not freeing a people, you may want to see it from a woman’s view over there.

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  • Anonymous

    We have all been attacked but just who attacked us remains secret. Too many secrets and too many lies by the media and the system that is supposed to serve the people. This is the shadow of the invisible new world order.

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  • http://twitter.com/davidshaymusic David Shay

    Big freaking deal if our soldiers mess with the bastards trying to kill them. There singing sublime to the guys… thats a good thing. Sublime ROCKS!

  • http://twitter.com/davidshaymusic David Shay

    have you blown your lid? You are comparing a nazi to our troops singing sublime to a terrorist? Big freaking deal if they give these guys a hard time. You have no idea what you are talking about

  • Anonymous

    That’s an opinion by someone who sits on their lazy ass at home feeling safe because of the courageous men and women fighting in Iraq and Afganistan. get your lazy ass from in front of the TV/Computer, go over there and fight with the insurgents in Iraq or the Taliban in Afganistan. They would greet you with open arms. You are the type of person who would eagerly cooperate with the enemy to save your own ass. `These people our troops are dealing with are cold blooded murderers who are out to destroy us in the name of a ” religion”. People like you are worse than the enemy. As for the so called “do-gooders”, relief workers and reporters who get killed over there, A WORD OF ADVICE; STAY THE HELL AWAY. No real patriot gives a damn about anyone who gives aid and comfort to the enemy. As for McCord or anyone else who betrays our soldiers. They should be tried for sedition and sent to prison. Back our troops and our way of life.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mathpants Adam Sullivan

    The funny thing is are those mean and women who you call trash put their life on the line so you have the right to say that. What makes you so much better? Do you think only the criminals join the military? I have many good friends and family in the service and they would die so that you can have an opinion. If you prefer a country different than that, then why not just move.

    You wouldn’t make it through their training or deal with what they have to deal with. I am thankful that we have men and women who love this nation enough to serve. You can hate war and hate the cause or lack of cause but leave the heroes alone.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_P24LIFVY5JAEE6KKDVIARGOKKA ahmed

    Do you know what was that guy in the 2nd clip saying while he cries..he said” i have kids..i have family” most of the prisoners in iraq are caught based on revenge byt other iraqis let’s put all above aside and come to the core Is it was nicessary to go their and kill civilians based on reports of WMD and unfortunattly u found nothing out there !!!! how many US mother lost their boys, how many US childrens lost their fathers, how many US wifes becomes widows???? U can say it’s only hundreds but on iraqi side it’s thousand so it’s fine, but i will tell u when u deal with humans it’s not numbers as it for mother,children and wife one man one number means the whole world… and finally do you feel that world in peace from al qaeeda threat now ofcourse not because u r ging them the reason to continue the reason to kill under islam name which is 100% not related to islam at alllllll Islam never said to go inside a house before knocking a door and get accepted come inside do you believe that same religon can tell to kill innocinet people???? The good and bad will always exist all over the world but now i can tell we are lost enough to do all the bad thing and still believe we are getting good stuff out of this shit. peace on u USPatriot2 and try to make up ur mind….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6YNQO5ENYOS5BF2HOQXYQP2DSY Doderya

    hey i would like to tell u that the war was only a lie from usa they deside to make the war on iraq &afg because of the oil how poor this country is and what a bloody starving or thearsty people for human blood this country have also mr mush was right he came to save his country from falling in oil&blood needs by this war welldone to u MUSH but the world well not forget what us made to the world

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  • http://twitter.com/NotAffiliated Not Affiliated

    Glad to see you really read the article. Hah! It’s so funny that we bound and blindfolded innocent civilians, then taunted them before passing them along to those who would torture them! It’s hilarious! That’s a good thing!

    Can’t wait til the Chinese show up on your doorstep and kidnap you for daring to posses a gun. See?! It’s funny! We’re just singing at the stupid American before we threaten to rape his children and kill his wife! It’s funny!

  • http://twitter.com/NotAffiliated Not Affiliated

    You’re kidding, right? Mass murderers killed a whole buncha people in London, so we should abuse Iraqis? This video is from Iraq. These men hadn’t just captured the mastermind of some massive terrorist plot. These are just Iraqi civilians stuck in the wrong place at the wrong time. A huge percentage of the tens of thousands of Iraqis we indefinitely imprisoned were just random bystanders who dared to posses a weapon in their own home, or who were simply the nextdoor neighbor of our actual target.

    But really! Think of the women! Then kidnap their husbands and murder their children (don’t forget to dig the bullets out of their bodies first, though!)

  • http://twitter.com/NotAffiliated Not Affiliated

    “To a terrorist”.

    You’ve got proof, I assume? Or is the assumption that if the US Military knocks on your door, you must be a terrorist?

  • http://twitter.com/NotAffiliated Not Affiliated

    And you’re the kind of sociopath who looks at an entire country (Iraq, Afghanistan, they’re all the same) and says we should murder every single human being there, if they dare to resist foreign occupation. Forget the fact that we’ve likely imprisoned an innocent family member of theirs for a few years because… um… they dared to live next door to a suspected criminal.

    I have to assume, based on your claim that everyone we ever blindfold is an enemy, that you’ll be totally cool when the Chinese are done raping your wife and murdering your children for your crime of joining the insurgency whenever they decide to invade us for failing to make debt repayments.

  • http://twitter.com/NotAffiliated Not Affiliated

    It’s a known fact that we’ve brutally tortured thousands of innocent human beings. It’s also known that we’ve kidnapped and encaged tens of thousands of innocent human beings for years on end for literally *no* reason whatsoever.

    Sooo… if an Iraqi presents a direct threat to you, because they dared to stare for a second too long, its probably best to kill them and kidnap the rest of their family, just in case.

    I’m sure that’ll get the best response, right? Just like it would if such conditions were imposed on us… right?

  • http://twitter.com/NotAffiliated Not Affiliated

    Stupid Muslims and their strange hatred for foreign occupation. We Americans love when foreign nations occupy our soil and torture innocent civilians!

  • http://twitter.com/NotAffiliated Not Affiliated

    Very well said. This shit is completely ineffective. The empty-headed “tough-guy” stance simply means more people will hate us, and more people will want to kill us. Hard to imagine, given Americans’ love for being occupied by violent foreigner, but that’s just how those furriners think, I guess.

  • http://twitter.com/NotAffiliated Not Affiliated

    Ditto for Christianity, yes?

  • http://twitter.com/NotAffiliated Not Affiliated

    “Pretty soon”. Sadr already has a huge influence on the Iraqi government – though his associations with Iran appear to be inconsistent.

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    Are you kidding? The mass murders of London, Africa, New York and Yeman were executed by Al Qaida followers with specific orders from theTaliban. The innocent civilians in Iraq do not have fully automatic AK-47 assault rifles in their home. All of the civilian population in Iraq has been told not to be in possession of and assault rifles! That if they are caught with one, they will be detained and possibly jailed or imprisoned. I would think that even you would be smart enough to know

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