Why not? They will have 5 SCOTUS fraudster votes from the get-go. As long as it’s
a corporation vs. the American People, it’s a slam dunk. They should be impeached, or worse, in
jail for treason.

AT&T will win. Again, Americans get the government they deserve. Anyone who ever voted for the Republican party is directly responsible for their own demise. YOU voted for it, you asked for it, you got it. Suck it up!

If the conservaturds in the supreme court do favor at&t’s argument then they should always from then on be called on their supposed support of states rights trumping federal law. But given their love for corporations I am sure roberts and the rest of the turds are in a circle jerk over this one.

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Since the Bush appointment of activists judges Roberts and Alito the rights of individuals have been under constant attack. It should be interesting to see where Kagan and Sotomayor come down on this issue. I fear this will be the first of many more such cases as the Republicans start to flex their muscle in the wake of Tuesday’s election results. Soon there will be no remedy left for working Americans but revolution. I abhor violence, but given the state of the economy and how many people have lost their jobs and houses, anger and frustrations are starting to boil over, and soon it will reach the flash point.

By the time the Americans have figured out they have become enslaved, it will be beyond the point of no return.

This push is in line with the Robert’s court logic , perverted as it may be . If a corporation is the legal equivalent to a person , then the court will say that class action is a form of mob rule and will probably give the corporations exactly what they want , to let the bully (big money) rule . One on one . You versus AT&T .

Obama often drives me up the wall with his passivity, but I’ll give him credit for two things: he voted against both fascists Roberts and Alito, and he nominated Sotomayor to the court. People should always remember this.

Who knows how Kagan will vote, though. If Kennedy shows some sanity for a change, it will up to Kagan not to flip. Any guarantee as to whether she will?

(And as for that smarmy pig Lawrence Tribe, who insulted Sotomayor: Cágate en tu mamá, atorrante!)

My feelings exactly. The neoprene court will pass this in a second. The tories will set up a shill lawsuit and land it before the chamber.

Check out Peter DeFazio’s, DeFazio investigating impeachment of Chief Justice John Roberts:

http://www.blueoregon.com/2010/10/defazio-investigating-impeachment-chief-justice-john-roberts/

The corporate masters expect a flash point and planned for it. Why else do you think they pushed the Patriot Act and continue to attack Habeus corpus. And they are really behind the detention camps. We are repeating the history of Russia from industrialization to their revolution. Instead of Siberia you will be sent to corporate gulags all over the world. Your reward/punishment will be to be sent to work in an Afghan gold/mineral mine or some other location where they will exert hegemony at any cost, even using first strike nukes. Unchecked greed and hubris always spin out of control resulting in mass pain and suffering. Since we are continually repeating history and a defintion of insanity is repeating things expecting/hoping for a different result, then humanity must be collectively insane.

The constitution specifies ONE crime and ONE punishment. The crime is treason, the punishment is hanging. Personally, I think we should USE this mandated prescription. In fact, I tend to be for it for most of the rich class, damn near the whole of congress, and certainly the ENTIRE last administration. I can’t think of anything that is more needed right now. The rich have screwed us for 3 decades and have NEVER gotten any penalties from it. I think it’s time they pay and pay BIG TIME. I’m for the confiscation of ALL their ill gotten gains, the removal of the family from their home, and the complete abandoning of them just like they have done to us. If their God wants them to be rich, they will be again. I’m all for removing the money from all their too goddamned rich friends, too, so there won’t be any loans or gifts, since they won’t allow US any of those either.

Since they declared war on US, I say we take it right on back to THEIR front doors. I have a wood shop, torches are easy to make and pitchforks can still be bought at home improvement stores. Scythes are a bit difficult to find, but I bet we can locate enough.

It won’t MATTER where either of them come down on it, it’s a done deal. This SCOTUS, under the treasonous scum bag Roberts has never met a corporation it didn’t love FAR more than any human being alive or dead. I think it’s time for an impeachment of a Supreme Court judge. He clearly LIED under oath that he wouldn’t go around making activist judge moves, and he did so within the first 5 years he’s been polluting the court. This scum bag needs to be sent packing, and to jail if possible, EVERY decision the court has made since he took office should be thrown out, and the traitor hung from the closest lamp post to the SCOTUS.

Here we go. Roberts, Alito, and the clones (or clowns) on the right get another chance to destroy the power of individuals. If you guys hated Citizens United, wait until you read this opinion. When these guys are done, Corporations will be able to get away with anything.

Is AT&T the only game in town? No… if only people wouldn’t be so lazy and selfish when choosing networks.

The big push to create a corporate court aka arbitration has been going on for some time. This corporate court is not voluntary.

In many cases you will not get the job offer if you refuse to sign arbitration agreement papers.

When signing up for credit cards many of the aggrements have in fine print language that reads all disputes will be handled by arbitration.

This is what happened right after the American Revolution. The Conservatives hijacked the nation and stacked the courts with corrupt judges. The people got tired of it and shut down many of these courts until something was done about it.

Currently the U.S Chamber of Commerce is out to stack the courts with politicians instead of judges. Roberts on the Supreme Court is a politician, he is certainly not a judge.

Conservatives fighting against the people each minute at a time.

Ding! Ding! Ding! YOU win the prize. 2008 wasn’t about Obama. It was about the SCOTUS.

2012 won’t be about Obama either. It will be about the SCOTUS.

You should never abhor violence when you are being violated.

The very corporate friendly activist Roberts court will side with ATT, you can bet on that.
And it gets back to exactly why Pelosi and others in Congress didn’t do their job and push for the Senate to filibuster the nomination of Roberts and Alito.

I remember that Pelosi was a Senator when those two were nominated. Wow her rise in the House was fast.

They already do. Corporations have more rights than citizens.

Pelosi a Senator? She has never been a US Senator.
She took over the Burton machine in 1987 and has been there since.

The spineless dems are JUST as bad, or haven’t you figured that out yet? What’s funny is that people still think there is a difference between big corporations and government.

Get real.

No, Pelosi has never been a Senator, she has been a member of congress since 1987. Since the Senate, not Congress, reviews and approves of SC appointees blaming Pelosi for this court is ridiculous.

I can’t believe you’re siding with the scumbags. Every cell phone provider has sneaky contract tricks – I left Verizon over just that. No, don’t blame the consumer. They’re not lazy and selfish, they just don’t own magnifying glasses for the nine pages of fine print.

Indeed. The consumer has a helluva better chance with Sotomayor and Kagan than they do with Roberts or Alito. That’s the difference.

Don’t tell me the Democrats are just as bad. If they were, they would have gotten just as much Mystery Money in the last election, instead of one-fifth of what the Republicans got.

Not ridiculous at all.
Pelosi and every member of the house should be active with the Senate and do everything they can to make sure the Senate does a better job of vetting the nominees.

a Corporation masquerading as a Supreme Court (?)

flashback: AT&T demands FISA immunity

How is the weather in Russia?

Don’t tell me your thinking is as dyslexic as your reading.
Well, maybe my wording was a bit over-generalizing
But what makes you think I’m siding with AT&T on this?
I want them out of business.
For them to be out of business, consumers need to choose other much better networks with no clauses… like CREDO, for one example, or any other such smaller companies that still respect our right to privacy and do not try to subvert the justice or political system to their own benefit.
I do blame many consumers… most or not I can’t say, I don’t know the stats… but I do blame the millions who either don’t care about what companies like AT&T and Verizon do or don’t bother to look it up or stay abreast of events……OR, and most importantly, only choose services based on the convenience of them being the easiest to subscribe to.
THOSE people I’m only blaming because they lessen the effectiveness of boycotts.

But of course, I’d have to blame these corporate scumbags like AT&T first and foremost for being the selfish greedy anti constitutional sociopaths that they are.

Had the Founders abhorred violence, there would have been no American Revolution, and therefore no America today.

You’d have to ask a Russian.

How about a constructive suggestion about how ELSE to deal with the rich? They aren’t helping us out, that is for sure. And the truth is they never do. They help THEMSELVES, that is how they got rich in the first place (unless they inherited it, which hardly qualifies them as worthy of deciding how YOU should spend YOUR life). Why do you seem to think that those who have proven themselves to be the most selfish and greedy in your society can EVER be trusted to do ANYTHING for anyone else?

Break the law and the gov’t will come and get you. If the too damned rich break the law, they are either ignored or they buy their way out of it. A two tiered justice system doesn’t work. The rich and big business are sitting on $2 TRILLION that they REFUSE to invest in this country at all. But they will sure create jobs in China after shipping our factories over there. They will buy politicians so that YOUR representatives will work AGAINST you. They have presided over the biggest economic debacle this country has had in 80 years, they then demanded and got bail outs at OUR expense. And do they do ANYTHING to help ANY of us? Not on your life. The average CEO gets over 500 TIMES what the average worker gets, and there is NO way they are worth anywhere NEAR that. 30 years ago that was 40 times.

I’ve watched the rich screw this country for 3 decades. I think if they are allowed just to survive, that is too much leeway. Traitors should be hung, and that is according to the constitution. What ELSE would you call a group of people whose goal was to destroy the majority of their fellow countrymen? I think traitor pretty much covers it.

Yeah, but ironically, lawsuits are the reason that these contracts are so long! Every time they get burned in a lawsuit they add language so that doesn’t happen again.

This court case is actually an extension of this way of thinking.

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Well here we go! The dismantling of all defenses against the almighty multinational corporate neo-feudal overlord continues!

Here in TN, GOP gvo.-elect Haslam SPECIFICALLY mentioned tort reform as one of his platform planks on how to reduce health care costs….and now that TN is 100% GOP, let’s see how crazy it gets. The previous GOP-controlled House & Senate’s number one priority was to pass a bill that allows guns in bars.

Can’t wait to see what this new crop of rightwingnuts does to–uh I mean “FOR” this country. Show me that you guys care for anybody making below $100K a year.

Trial lawyers are hardly the “little guy” who needs legal protection. All their “clients” get is a coupon for future purchases, or a $5 check. Meanwhile, they shake down one business after another. The businesses understand that the lawyers are greedy, represent no one (I’ve never met “my” lawyers even though I get notices that I’ve “won” regularly), and just want money. So they pay them off (in millions), and leave nothing for the anonymous “clients” because the clients rarely suffered any material loss.

Of course, the sole class action suit that SHOULD be allowed is the one of the American people against the U.S. Government. Let’s not “settle” that case — let’s send all those criminals to jail!

USSC is going to cite provisions in the Homeland Security legislation which already force employees of government contractors into mandatory arbitration.

Based on that, IMO, this goes 5-4 Roberts Alito Scalia Thomas Kennedy siding with AT&T based on the argument that Congress has already said they approve of this.

Peace

Senator Joe Biden, who was at the bottom of his law school class and admits regularly (he talks a lot) that he is incompetent to serve on the bench, told Roberts that “you’re the best I’ve ever seen” before the Judiciary Committee during his confirmation hearings.

What we need is a Supreme Court decision to eliminate AT&T and a few other large corporations in this fascist country. But with treasonist traitors like Roberts on the court we’re not going to see that.

From the LA Times- ” “AT&T can offer the benefits of its consumer-friendly arbitration system only if the company is able to avoid the burdensome costs of lawyer-driven class actions, in which most of the money goes to lawyers — both plaintiff and defense lawyers — and class members get little,” Richter replied. ”

They either *just do not get it* or they *get it and just want to monopolize with impunity”. This is not about the money. This is about keeping them honest with the power of numbers. When AT&T brings top $$$$ lawyers into court, the class members must have adequate representation as well. Our government no longer protects us from monopolistic business and class actions are one of the few remaining check-and-balance systems we have left.

The Supreme ‘Corporation’ Of The United States is the finest court system money can buy. This fact was proven during this mid-term election season with all the unbridled corp cash flowing in from God only knows where. It was called “Citizens United vs FEC”. Corps are people now and money is free speech. He who has the most cash gets his candidate (puppet) in office. Us poor taxpayers and decent citizens are at the mercy of the very people we trust to protect us. Who needs a foreign invader when we have our own invaders right here in this country, specifically in that big white house on the hill. WE HAVE GOT TO FIX THIS!!!!!

Hate who you want, but Pelosi was not in the Senate and couldn’t have done anything to stop Roberts and Alito.

You need a civic class. She is not responsible for the Senate. Please stop sounding so crazy.

Just wait for all the other crap coming our way that will hurt the average citizen. I can hear the tea baggers now: But we didn’t vote for that! Sorry, you get the whole package when you vote for the corporatists repubs.

[...] BTW An end to class action lawsuits would mean an end to people’s right to challenge those who poison the air, water and destroy the environment.  it would effectively mean an end to all employment anti-discrimination laws since it is often only class action lawsuits that advance equality or insure the enforcement of such laws. From Raw Story:  http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/att-pushes-supreme-court-demolish-join-class-action-lawsuits/ [...]

I’d rather have the right to join others and sue a corporation for wrong-doing than a short contract…

Nice try, but at least you hinted at what much of this is about. Trial Lawyers are a large base of Democratic campaign donations, just like unions. ‘Tort Reform’ and issues like this just cut into the money that will be available to donate to Dems.

No, she couldn’t stop the nomination. And I’m not criticizing her for not doing the one thing she could after he was seated and made a few rulings in which he did not respect starry decisis as he SWORE he would. That one thing is impeachment.

Hey, you’re discriminating. Corporations are citizens!!!

We already look in our rear view to see this point of which you speak.

[...] See the original post: AT&T pushes Supreme Court to demolish right to join class action lawsuits [...]

Prediction: Due to Obama’s strong, fearless leadership and fighting spirit to stand strong for the people, ATT will … WIN BIG!

If this goes in favor of ATT then all Americans will be reduced to slave contract employees. Check out FEMASbest.com. Class Action was the only thing that helped.
The American dream is about to become a nightmare in HELL.

Jack Burton’s? I loved the way he kicked David Lo Pan’s ass!

OK, what a fine day THIS is.
We need to fight like hell, people!

Soon, any dissent with the corpses will be shut down, including the web.

Time to nationalize ATT.

Eliminate profits. Reduce cost of service. Increase benefits and pay of employees.

Why do corporations think it is wrong to make people whole when they have been caught doing people WRONG? Looks like AT&T wants to be like the banks. Damage you and RUN.

I agree with you, the american dream will be a nightmare and one we won’t be able to wake up from. All of a sudden you are seeing companies and politicians making their move fast and early to curtail anything and everything that would help americans or hinder them from making money. And trust me, this will pass and we will be on our own trying to fight companies and big business. We are becoming a fascists state and it’s starting rear it’s ugly head higher out of it’s hole. Those useful idiots of the Tea Baggers and the Republican water carriers do not know, they have been used and will soon be abused.

Our world/country will end not in a bang, but in a whimper.

DRD: I agree. Wait until you hear the howling when their social security and Medicare bennies are privatized. They will be beating their chests, gnashing their teeth and squealing, but to no avail. The corporations run the country and what the corps want the corps get, with an assist from our corporatist President. Americans are so very scr**ed.

Capt: You have that right. It is not “gonna” happen.

A reminder: a few years back Southwestern Bell bought the then independent AT&T corporation. It then proceeded to ditch its “SBC” facade, and adopted the AT&T name and logo for itself. Much like a movie villain would kill people, slice the face off of his victim, and then wear it as mask.

Maybe this particular twist of a story of corporate consolidation doesn’t seem like much, but I think it’s important somehow. The name/logo change indicates a desire to change their own image, in an attempt to hide from something.

Also, it’s important to remember that, whenever you hear the talk about how AT&T helped the Shrub Misadministration with its warrantless wiretaps, this was when it WAS its own company. How would its acquisition by SBC affect any attempts to issue fines or sanctions upon it (like that’s ever gonna happen now)? I’m betting that the current “incarnation” would be able to shrug it off by saying “that wasn’t us, that company is dead now”…

Remember how the Republicans were so against activist judges when Obama nominated Kagan and Sotomayor. They claimed they didn’t want anyone on the Supreme Court that would act this way. Yet when Roberts and Alito were being nominated, all they could do was heap so much praise on them that you’d think they were going to bend over and kiss their behinds all day long. So where are their voices now? Probably won’t be hearing anything about this. It really make you realize how despicable they really are. And the Democrats could have done something about this when they had the ability. Very few spoke up.

Remember when Bush said we should fight the enemy over there so we don’t have to do that here. How wrong he was about the enemy just being over there.

The American telecommunications industry has been running amok since the Public Utilities Commission folded. They are nothing more than corporate thieves, unregulated, stealing the public’s money at will while providing service that is inferior to nearly every country in Europe.

Look for Barack Obama to issue a statement in favor of AT&T. Again.

Very soon, you will have to sign a legal waiver for every single thing you buy, service you use, and privately owned business you enter, or visit either in the real world or on the web. That way companies can circumvent the law entirely. BMA will be the only avenue. Just read it again.
Binding. Mandatory. Arbitration.

AT&T screwed up big time.

AT&T thinks their bottom line is more important then Americans ability to have a class action lawsuit.

Anybody remember far back enough to when the telcom industry was government overseen and the conservatives wanted to push it out of utility status and into the private market…

…hows that working for ya now? Privatize…another word for letting a pitbull on steroids off its leash.

Makes that IPhone look lackluster now.

lol. like that will happen in a corporate controlled Congress.

The “American Dream” was a lie to begin with.

Because there are no corporatists Democrats?

Oh please the Dems get corporate monies just like the Repubs. They’re just as much a whore for the corporations as anyone. You keep fooling yourself and wonder why you still have a shitty government. By the way, how do you like Bush’s third term?

Thank GOD I don’t live in the US anymore. It really is a country gone to shit!

[...] AT&T pushes Supreme Court to demolish right to join class action lawsuits [...]

When Motorola, Mitsubishi, Lockheed Martin ringed the earth with the first communications satellites, guess who got all the Frequencies (Except a small amount for the military?)

. . . AT&T

AT&T has a LOT of money, don’t kid yourself.

All the justice one can afford to pay for…

Capitalism has failed the American People. Either we get rid of it or we will become serfs to the rich and powerful.

There are so few sure ways to make a bet and know you will win. This is one of those bets. I will bet the Supreme Court will either weaken it so that it will barely exist, or they will demolish it altogether. After all corporations are people. So they now have it both ways. They can use the clout as corporations and at the same time cry foul because they are now people. They can come before the corporate Supreme Court as both victim and corporation. Either way they are protected. We are not of course, but they are. After all if there are rules to protect us from the bilking of the corporations, that would hurt the corporations that are human beings now.

The Roberts court, don’t you just love it?

doubt that, americans may be slow they may be brainwashed, but they are also well armed, waking up and ready to revolutionize, and when they do, boy oh boy is the shit going to hit the fan.

we’re about ready to answer that age old question, do bankers and politicians taste like chicken.

Call it what it REALLY is…

Corporate Courts.

Ah, the good-hearted “persons” of the Supreme Corp(TM).

If this goes thru then kiss your money goodbye…they are all crooks not just AT&T. Look it up. But everything is on hold waiting on this decision. All cellular contracts have anti class action clauses. Look at yours. Its already there.

At least if you arbitrate your small claim against ATT and win you have a chance of getting some money. (However, you may be exposed to their costs if you lose–need to check the rules on that).
On the other hand, if your claim is swallowed up in a successful class action, after Attorney’s fees, costs, etc., you’ll likely get a few penny’s back, if anything.