The TSA is the biggest WASTE of an agency there is. Run and manned by complete morons.

http://www.online-privacy.edu.tc

How do you keep 2 wars going in Muslim countries with the taxpayer’s hooked? All this rage and angst over these new “scanners”. Why? Because muslim shoe bombers are going to blow up your airplanes. They are extremists and will murder you because you are FREE. Look at what you have to go through, at our airports, because of Islam. We need to fight these wars because our new reality is fear. Our government needs us to be afraid so we don’t open our eyes to the reality of these wars of choice.

What a long uphill battle that needs to be fought to get our country back…..

Here’s a suggestion; Get naked! Imagine thousands of naked people queuing at public airports, all in their birthday suits. That would be a sure-fire way to point out the absurdity of these ridiculous security checks they make Americans go through. I’m seeing this from the viewpoint of a South African and you can’t imagine how crazy it all seems to people outside America.

The only answer is to do something equally crazy, strip off! That way you won’t have to go through the scanner or be body-searched. Naw, Americans are too shit-scared of their government to stand up to it.

Nude Protest: Airport Body Scanners in Germany
http://tv.breitbart.com/nude-protest-airport-body-scanners-in-germany/

I see great potentials in these scans. For example, how about if all women wear dildos as they go thru that thing? For the gents, I recommend a hefty dose of Viagra just prior to the trip to the airport. If that doesn’t fix ‘em, nothing well.

Then again, they’re all perverts. They’ll probably get off on it.

In all fairness to the powers that be, it wasn’t just a shoe bomber, there was also that underwear bomber, you know?

Larry Flynt should offer $1M for the first scanner sex video.

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It seems the terrorists have won…

I don’t feel ‘safer’ in fact I feel less safe, and violated by my own freakin’ government.

Wednesday, November 24, 2010 is NATIONAL OPT-OUT DAY!

It’s the day ordinary citizens stand up for their rights, stand up for liberty, and protest the federal government’s desire to virtually strip us naked or submit to an “enhanced pat down” that touches people’s breasts and genitals in an aggressive manner. You should never have to explain to your children, “Remember that no stranger can touch or see your private area, unless it’s a government employee, then it’s OK.”

The goal of National Opt Out Day is to send a message to our lawmakers that we demand change. We have a right to privacy and buying a plane ticket should not mean that we’re guilty until proven innocent. This day is needed because many people do not understand what they consent to when choosing to fly.

Here are the details:

Who?
You, your family and friends traveling by air on Wednesday, November 24, 2010. Remember too, as the TSA says, “Everyday is opt-out day.” That is, you can opt out any time you fly.

What?
National Opt-Out Day. You have the right to opt-out of the naked body scanner machines (AIT, or Advance Imaging Technology, as the government calls it). All you have to do is say “I opt out” when they tell you to go through one of the machines. You will then be given an “enhanced” pat down. This is a right given to you by the TSA.

Where?
At an airport near you!
When?
Wednesday, November 24, 2010. We want families to sit around the dinner table, eating turkey, talking about their experience – what constitutes an unreasonable search, how forceful of a pat down will we allow on certain areas of our body, and that of our children, and how much privacy are we will to give up for flying? We hope the experience then propels people to write their Member of Congress and the airlines to demand change.

Why?
The government should not have the ability to virtually strip search anyone it wants without cause. The problem has been compounded in that if you do not want to go through the body scanner, the TSA has made the alternative perhaps even worse by instituting “enhanced” pat downs. There are reports from travelers across the country about how the TSA now touches the genitals and private areas of men, women and children in a much more aggressive manner. We do not believe the government has a right to see you naked or aggressively touch you just because you bought an airline ticket.

How?
By saying “I opt out” when told to go through the bodying imaging machines and submitting to a pat down. Also, be sure to have your pat down by TSA in full public – do not go to the back room when asked. Every citizen must see for themselves how the TSA treats law-abiding citizens.

If you have experienced a problem with TSA when flying, use the Electronic Privacy Information Center’s incident report to lodge your complaint:
http://epic.org/bodyscanner/incident_report/

follow us on twitter: http://twitter.com/nationaloptout

contact us at admin@optoutday.com

***ALERT***
The Senate Committee on Commerce, Science and Transportation will hold a
Transportation Security Administration oversight hearing Wednesday NOV 17. See this link for more information: http://bit.ly/bICXfJ

Please forward this information as widely as possible, and be sure to call your Senators, no matter who they are, but especially if they sit on this Committee. The only way to change the system is by legislation through Congress. The Administration doesn’t seem to want to budge.

Senate Subcommittee Meeting info:

Jena Longo – Democratic Deputy Communications Director, (202) 224-8374
Nov 17 2010 10:00 AM
Russell Senate Office Building – 253

Contact the communications director to find out more information about the meeting. You may also call the office of the Committee majority (Democrats) at 202-224-0411. The minority (Republicans) Committee office number is 202-224-1251.

Regardless of your home state, call the Committee chair to ask whether recent TSA abuses are on the agenda for the oversight hearing. Senator Jay Rockefeller (D-WV) chairs the committee. His office number is 202-224-6472.

Here is a list of Committee members and phone number. If one of these people is your Senator, please phone them, either at the number below or look online to find their nearest local office – you can even visit in person (though please call their office first if stopping by). TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE! CALL NOW!

FULL LIST OF COMMITTEE MEMBERS

Majority Members

Chairman John D. Rockefeller IV West Virginia 202-224-6472

Senator Daniel K. Inouye Hawaii 202-224-3934

Senator John F. Kerry Massachusetts 202-224-2742

Senator Byron L. Dorgan North Dakota 202-224-2551

Senator Barbara Boxer California 202-224-3553

Senator Bill Nelson Florida 202-224-5274

Senator Maria Cantwell Washington 202-224-3441

Senator Frank R. Lautenberg New Jersey 202-224-3224

Senator Mark Pryor Arkansas 202-224-2353

Senator Claire McCaskill Missouri 202-224-6154

Senator Amy Klobuchar Minnesota 202-224-3244

Senator Tom Udall New Mexico 202-224-6621

Senator Mark Warner Virginia 202-224-2023

Senator Mark Begich Alaska 202-224-3004

Minority Members

Ranking Member Kay Bailey Hutchison Texas 202-224-5922

Senator Olympia Snowe Maine 202-224-5344

Senator John Ensign Nevada 202-224-6244

Senator Jim DeMint South Carolina 202-224-6121

Senator John Thune South Dakota 202-224-2321

Senator Roger Wicker Mississippi 202-224-6253

Senator George S. LeMieux Florida 202-224-3041

Senator Johnny Isakson Georgia 202-224-3643

Senator David Vitter Louisiana 202-224-4623

Senator Sam Brownback Kansas 202-224-6521

Senator Mike Johanns Nebraska 202-2244224

I was actually thinking about going thru the scanner with something written on my butt, like “Hi There” on one cheek and “Dear John” on the other (some of you know where that comes from), but not sure what to use that will show up.

How many of you caught Jeffery (I’m such a tool) Tobin on AC360 claiming it’s best to give up our rights. How dare we question our federal TSA overlords? They know what’s best for us?
Jaw-dropping and of course infuriating.

How many of you caught Jeffery (I’m such a tool) Tobin on AC360 claiming it’s best to give up our rights. How dare we question our federal TSA overlords? They know what’s best for us?
Jaw-dropping and of course infuriating.

The thing that irks me the most is that the potential terrorists who attempted to blow up airplanes since 911 were not stopped by TSA… they were stopped by us… the people… and no problem will be solved by government… they have to be dealt with by “us”… together, keeping our eyes open, setting the example for how to behave, so that when someone does behave improperly, there’s a standard to accurately gage the situation and how to resolve it. These security, fear tactics will only harm “us” more than if we set the example of freedom and respect… for all.

I’m sorry, but I don’t’ want EITHER a screen OR a full-body pat down. This is bullshit!

This whole TSA thing has turned out to be a big ass waste of money and time. People are getting very tired of it. I won’t fly at all because of this invasive treatment. If I need to be on the west coast, I’ll take a train.

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The next time I fly, I’ll be wearing a kilt and going commando….touch this you intrusive bastards.

The next time I fly, I’ll be wearing a kilt and going commando….touch this you intrusive bastards.

EVERY DAY IS OPT-OUT DAY.

“Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God.”

- Thomas Jefferson

Check out Tom Toles’s take on the bruhaha

http://www.gocomics.com/tomtoles/?utm_source=GoComics&utm_medium=free_email&utm_campaign=user_comic

You want to stop terrorism? Stop killing muslim families a.k.a. casualties of war/profit. Stop the support of Israel….it can be done. What’s the difference between racism and anti-semitism? Racism is ignorantly pointing out the flaws in a different race. Anti-semitism is about pointing out the flaws in an idealology of a country that is never held accountable no matter how harsh the crime. Question Israel and you lose EVERYTHING. They make it so there is only one truth….theirs.

Of course Israel was happy that 9-11 happened….now we know what it feels like to be in their shoes. I prefer to be barefoot.

How about the FACT that the TSA and the FAA had a system in place that would have stopped one maybe two of the 911 planes from being hijacked in the first place. It was called Computer Assisted Passenger Screening (CAPS) and if the FAA would have elevated it to its highest level to MATCH the KNOWN threat I have read that 7 of the 19 hijackers would have MISSED their flights because they would have been pulled out of line and questioned about their cash purchase of one way tickets and lack of luggage!

But the Airlines objected to elevating CAPS to level four because it would take too long to process passengers and cost too much money to implement for an extended period of time? I wonder how many of those “bright executives” lost their jobs in the ensuing airline industry collapse?

Of course you have not read about this story in the MSM since the third week in September of 2001 because it totally blows a whole in the story line of there was nothing we could have done to prevent the attacks.

The point of this post is that CAPS and HUMAN profiling is MORE effective at spotting threatening behavior than some dumb x-ray machine.

noted.

You mean that son of a London banker who didn’t have a blasting cap and wasn’t going to do anything but burn his dick off? That kid that was seen by other passengers being helped on to the plane with no passport, that paid cash for his ticket? The guy that the State Dept admitted was LET ON THE PLANE BY AN UNNAMED AMERICAN “INTELLIGENCE” AGENCY?? The SAME MONTH that the scanners go in we get the JUSTIFICATION? Supposedly another student of Al-Laki, the AL CIA DUH guy dining at the Pentagon???

WAKE UP AMERICA!!!

This is a huge waste of money, time and will never foil a terrorist plot. It is also embarrassing that our government does this; soon, no one will want to travel to the U.S., further isolating this country from the rest of the world. Or is that what the gov. wants?

When I have to fly again, I will opt out. I plan on eating chili, heavy with beans the night before. More needs to be said about the fact that air cargo screening is a friggin joke. They want to measure my junk, but allow the cargo hold to be packed to capacity with non screened packages. TSA can blow it out an orifice.

When I have to fly again, I will opt out. I plan on eating chili, heavy with beans the night before. More needs to be said about the fact that air cargo screening is a friggin joke. They want to measure my junk, but allow the cargo hold to be packed to capacity with non screened packages. TSA can blow it out an orifice.

HEY!! We’re ALL Scottish!!
Wear a kilt
Go commando
Opt Out
see: http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2010/11/tsa-opt-out-day-now-with-a-superfantastic-new-twist/66545/

The answer is very simple. Everybody just stop flying. I have. It is rarely actually necessary. (Unless convenience is more important to you than your rights? in which case – it’s over, you lost.)

7 of the 19 “hijackers” DID MISS their flight due to the system in place of ….FALSE FLAG TERROR ATTACKS!! …..AND THEY ARE ALIVE AND WELL.

“Seven of the men have subsequently been confirmed as being alive. None of the names listed are shown on the passenger manifests of the hijacked flights.”

“No exposure to X-ray is considered beneficial. We know X-rays are hazardous but we have a situation at the airports where people are so eager to fly that they will risk their lives in this manner,” he said.”

I’m really getting tired of this meme. People are NOT “so eager to fly”. We fly or we lose our job. If we’re told that we need to be in city X tomorrow night, we fly. There is no other alternative and guess what? Employers don’t particularly care if their employees get cancer a decade or two from now because that individual will likely be off the payroll and health care by then. Are politicians and researchers really this removed from the reality of the average business traveler (that makes up the bulk of seats sold)?

Here’s what it comes down to for most travelers:
“Agree to be exposed to X-Rays and/or have your privacy invaded, or lose your job.”
And right now, jobs are kinda hard to come by. You can stand by your principles or you can feed your kids: Choose one.

Some brave soul is eventually going to reject the xrays of the porno-scanner and will strip off everything in protest. That event will be a catalyst that will make headlines that the TSA will be unable to defend itself against, and the porno-scanner/genital groping will be suspended while they “reevaluate their methods”. It’s definitely going to happen, it’s just like waiting for the other shoe to drop to see the eventual headline on it.

Obvious solution. Buck naked passengers. Men and Women sections on plane. Cavity searches on plane entry. Crew included. 100% safety.

The only ” terrorists” are the bloated agencies whose budget and jobs are dependent on keeping this threat scam going. From Bush’s election to 911, Iraq, Afghanistan and underpants bombers, it’s been a huge scam for money and power. Period. The TSA screening is just indoctrination and training of the population to go along and shut up.

All that groping and I don’t even get a drink out of it?

Yep. He be the one. I read somewhere (maybe here?) that he was given a “pass” by the almighty and ever-so-alert Israeli airport police because of his garb. ROFL! How’s that for not judging others, eh?

Now, is the time to do some creative trimming down there. He he…I can now see “specialty” barber shops springing up all over the ghettos that offer to give you a trim and style for cheap. Sometimes, it’s not so much about the message as it is about the delivery method. Ha ha!

This should really get the ladies up in arms!

Yep. I do it all the time. Getting used to all the fondling now.

I have a feeling that the “terrorists” and your government are one and the same. But I won’t tell if you don’t.

How shocking!! Women boarding a plane may be wearing a sanitary napkin or have a tampon in her vagina! “She” may even have a penis! Men boarding planes may be judged by the size of their penis–at the time! I’ll bet terrorists are having a big laugh over this issue. They have us ashamed of our own bodies and obsessed with sexual assault as though we were in prison. I’m sure they’ll find other ways of killing us while we are preoccupied with ourselves.

Mission accomplished then!

So, are you saying that the system does work?

~gasp~

Separate sections!
That’s Sharia Law….you commie!

I have a solution.. Just whip your dick out and slap the agent in the face with it during the pat down. I bet that’ll put an end to it real quick….

On my flight to Orlando, FL for Xmas.. I’m gonna consider wearing a strap on… should make it all kinda interesting for TSA (Trans Sexual Assault)

I ain’t THAT hairy! Ha ha

I think I will go commando so that with a subtle shaking of the hips I can give them a show that gives “my dangly bits” new meaning.

Or cause yet another sort of sexy, sexy delay should they forget themselves. Won’t someone think about the children???

Good naked:
Naked sauna.
Naked hot tub.
Nake volleyball.

Bad naked:
Naked squatting.
Naked sawing (especially for the men).
Lots of naked people in an enclosed space, half jonesing for cigarettes, the other half constantly getting things out of the over head and…well…suffice to say I would not want the isle seat quite so much anymore.

I have a suggestion that might help calm men down and possibly lure more customers. Offer a free prostate exam while you’re being screened. Fly the friendly skies…and cop a free finger wave.

I dunno….

If we all participate willingly and maybe have few drinks, some soft music before the rain of pat-downs, maybe the terrorists will have only succeeded in making us sexier?

HAHAHA. Some sort of non-poisonous metallic paints? Do those exist and would they read on the xray?

And if EVERYONE got their heads out of their asses and REFUSED TO FLY, the airlines would collapse. Though, before they finally died, they would abandon the folly they are on now, and then we could fly again, unmolested.

Oh, wait.. we’ve become essentially beholden to the technology and the way we do things. 90% of the people out there WON’T stop flying, even if it means being irradiated or molested. And people wonder exactly WHY the “free market” won’t work when it relies on “the general public to stop buying from abusive industries”.

Of course, the other alternative is that we apply LOGIC and REASON to policy, prosecute criminals (like Bush, Cheney, et. al.), and prevent public officials from profiting from the policies they put in place. … Chertoff, our Homeland Security guy who pushed these machines, owns stake in one of the two companies that sells them.. major stake. The corporations and their minions are getting rich off abusing the public, and the public is too stupid to understand WHO is abusing them. They hide behind ambiguous bullshit slogans like “the government can’t solve problems” or “the government is abusing us”. NO, YOU are abusing yourself by ELECTING ABUSERS.

Until people wake up to the two party lie and realize that this revolving door between corporatists and government is the problem (and stop electing corporatists to government), we’ll continue to be abused more and more for the increased profits of our oppressors. Welcome to your Fascism, duly elected by the moron public.

Some Americans are outraged at the idea that the TSA has the right to touch their private parts in the pat-down process.

I dont remember giving them that right.. Who exactly gave TSA the right to violate people? What bill did congress pass that gives them that exact right?
If you are going to say the patriot act, show me where it says that. You can pat someone down for ‘probable cause’, not because they don’t want to submit themselves to a scanner that can tell if you are circumcised or not.

Start moaning and say ‘oh god, YES!!! you know what daddy wants’. That should get a good response.

We know where the excommunicated catholic priests are going to work now!!!!

Wear pleated clothing: http://www.thelocal.de/sci-tech/20101116-31209.html

Don’t fly.

Actually, according to the flight manifests, NONE of the ‘terrorists’ boarded any of the planes.

I have to say… I actually feel bad for the poor guys who work for the TSA on the front lines. They don’t want to have to do this. They wouldn’t want to submit to it, either, nor would they want their moms or wives or husbands or children to submit to it. They know it does nothing to make anyone safer. But they still have to do it, every daggoned day, unless they start looking for other work. And they have to listen to every one of us bitch and moan.

I know they have a miserable job, and I try to do what I can to be pleasant and courteous when I’m coming through security. It sucks for everybody… unless you’re manufacturing full-body scanners, reusable gloves, or explosive-detecting machines.

That certainly makes the kilt idea even better!

I wonder what would happen if everyone rejected the scans and just started moaning in fake orgasms during the pat downs.

They will just be examining the boys…..

This is TMI for sure (too much information). gag, barf…vomit.

The day is near when we will all be flying in the NUDE.

Look on the bright side. If Ann Coulter goes flying, at least the TSA will find out how and where he stashes his pecker.

How can sanitary napkins be worn onto the plane at all? Can’t they be filled with the same explosives that that were in the guy’s underpants? You all want to be “safe” don’t you?

I know someone here is going to say, seriously, “Women just shouldn’t fly when they are menstruating.”

Or real ones.

Men, if you wear a kilt, don’t forget to wear the sporran, the heavy purse-like bag that hangs in front from the waist. It keeps your johnson down in case you see a fetching lass.

“Jaime Manzys – On my flight to Orlando, FL for Xmas.. I’m gonna consider wearing a strap on… should make it all kinda interesting for TSA (Trans Sexual Assault)”

Jaime, you are my new idol.

Quick question though: why stop at one? :p

Seriously, if someone appears to be “different” or “non standard”, will that warrant a strip search? ‘Cause the biological fact is that some people *are* different. No, not doubled up (that I’ve heard of anyway), but still, what are the guidelines for what they see or feel in someone’s groin and what requires an even more…personal search? Has the condition of being intersex become cause for greater invasion of privacy?

MsPithy, you also bring up an excellent point but one that sadly will be ignored by many…

ffffffffffff

And if I’ve got a full load in my adult Depends, will that show up on a scan and require a feel? That might just be a good form of protest.

“But agents, I didn’t mean to shit my pants. The line was just so long!”

I’m not sure is this will warrant more search (to satisfy curiosity and that urge many people have to “stare at the freakshow”) or if this will cause them to be ushered through post haste. As in “send he/she/it through as quickly as possible before I have to step outside my comfort zone by examining my own sexuality” or “She’s hot. Oh…she’s got a penis. Does that mean I’m GAY!? …. MOVE ALONG!”

Sorry, duplicate post

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We need to adopt the Israeli system, which is respectful profiling. The problem here is that the government is so worried about discrimination suits that they are applying the same set of rules to EVERYBODY, even old vets in wheelchairs and little kids. The truth is that a little common sense would tell you that the threat of terror comes from a small cross-section of potential fliers. If we got over out obsession with political correctness and a misplaced sense of egalitarianism we could make this whole process cheaper, faster, less degrading and more effective.

Now, now, you know why kilts are popular in Scotland? There’s no zipper to warn the sheep.

“Respectful profiling”? You’re not an Arab, I take it?

It’s easier than that. We have a government owned by wall street banksters who have gone off the rails with their paranoid delusions that the American people are going to suddenly stop allowing themselves to be sheered like the sheep they are for everything they own and violently rebel against the system.

Truth is Americans will do nothing, and will just keep being sheered.

What happens if you take a magic marker and draw various designs or right unflattering remarks such as “have a good look Pig” ? Just wondering.

All part of “Terror Inc.” we’re currently marketing worldwide.

Military/Security Industrial Complex = Create hell and then play savior.

Better yet CUT OFF Israel completely!

thinking I need one of these at the vestibule of my home ….

We need a Twist, a Turn, a ………..

Everyone knows that in Scotland, the sheep WILLINGLY back into your “junk”.

Well. All I can say is, I hope the men in this country enjoy traveling without their female spouses/SOs. Let’s see… skin cancer? Or a sexual assault? Wow. I feel so safe now, don’t you?

We are “bitching and moaning” for damn good reason, as a nation of free people we should not concede our rights so easily.

RIGHT ON!! Remember ten years ago when we could just get on the fucking plane?

me, i can’t wait to see what happens when they screen transexuals or genetic hermaphrodites. mebbe even castrati.

The TSA agents have a new game call “Grope-A-Dope”

We all get to play…

I am going to request that the biggest guy around feel me up for security and then moan when he start the feel up.

You really, really, really, really don’t understand the kind of people who want to be TSA screeners, do you?

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Being able to do things that are illegal for others to do is a key part of what government is all about.

When we start seeing a tampons then maybe the ASSHOLES in TSA and Homeland Insecurity might then call a halt to this invasion of privacy? Is that a picture of one of the Bush daughters taken at an Argentine resort?

Let me tell you what our more civilized brethren in most of Europe think about this kind of crap. They already route their flights to avoid the U.S. and that was only because of the ridiculous fingerprinting requirement the U.S. made for foreigners. The U.S. is very quickly becoming its own worst enemy, an isolationist, fascistic, police state.

Ya know what we need? I’m thinking “crotch octopus”. “What?!” you exclaim? Well, I think someone needs to create a specialty item. A johnson cover made of silicon rubber made especially for TSA pervert screener devices. Basically a many-legged (like an octopus) cover that fits over the beans and frank within the underwear. This would be a variation (of sorts) on wearing a strap-on dildo which would work for women AND men (a couple of johnsons – or wear 2 dildos and display 3!). Instead of a “boring” dildo, wear a strap-on underwear squid or octopus.

“Oh yeah! Oh baby, yeah…NO please don’t stop! Right there! YEAH! OH OH OH OOOOH!”

Disconcerting, no?

I totally agree with this. The airlines are already bitching that they’re losing money because people don’t want to deal with the ‘security’ (LOL as if)…

So, stop flying. As soon as the airlines recognize that they are, indeed, losing significant money due to this ridiculous scanning/groping rule, it’ll go away. But not before whoever got the kickbacks from the scanner company by imposing the requirement gets their full payment…

I’ll cut them some slack (and so should you). What kind of people want that job? PEOPLE WHO WANT/NEED A JOB!

Not many of those around these days, you know?

Seriously, you can use the same disdainful argument to jump the shit of people who “want” to be Wal-Mart greeters.

Hate the policy and the government, not (necessarily) the people who have to carry out the policies. The guy in the protest vid (“Touch my junk and I’ll have you arrested”) himself stated, “Nothing personal” to the guy(s) who were supposed to feel him up.

OK, can one of you people with knowledge of these scanners tell us if we wear a series of metal letters attached to each other across our bodies that read “FUCK TSA”, would they be heated up by the X-RAYS to possibly cause burns? Because I’m thinking that’s what we all need to do. Or, put those strips across our private parts that read “THIS IS PRIVATE PROPERTY, YOU ASSHOLES!”

I still think we should all stop flying in protest.

This stuff is intended to block EMF of various types but I suspect it would also cause issues with the body scanner. Perhaps enough to block the ya-ya views of your ya-yas: http://www.lessemf.com/fabric.html

Morty62 Says: “We need to adopt the Israeli system, which is respectful profiling”

Is ICTS Respecfull after failing in 9-11 four Times And in Amsterdam Recently?

Chertoff and Company – The Cover Up (Body Scanners)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5FBCHKu2KU

Try a high-zinc sunscreen.

This is my answer. I have really taken a liking to Amtrak. VASTLY superior to airplanes. LOTS of leg room, shoulder and hip room, room to move around, lay down (even without a sleeper). You can get up and wander around at will, there are (often) power outlets around so you can use your electronic devices indefinitely. There’s NEVER a “please shut down your electronic devices…” notice.

The ride is smoother, the crowds smaller, AND THERE’S ZERO STRIP SEARCHES, X-RAYING, PAT DOWNS, ETC. It really is a very nice experience.

Love it. Turn ‘phobia to one’s favor…might as well, I suppose.

Sure you do, on the plane…it just costs an arm and a leg (and the previous feel up).

So is having to show ID. Why the hell does it matter WHO you are so long as you aren’t packing a gun or knife? Since when did Americans have to report to the government all their movements? When did we have to get permission to travel around our own country?

All that is necessary to make plane travel safe is ensuring no one is carrying a (real) weapon. I don’t have to ID myself to Greyhound, or Amtrak, or whenever I cross a state line in my car, or the car of a friend or relative. Why must planes be magically different?

In any case, NO hijacking in the future is going to work at this point. Those days are over since 9/11. Boxcutters? HAH. Even a gun wouldn’t put them in control of the plane for another 9/11 type suicide attack. At WORST you are looking at a REAL hijacking which means a free trip to Cuba or some other sunny, exotic locale. Who cares?!

There will never again be a takeover of an airliner and suicide attack like seen on 9/11 – the passengers wouldn’t go for it (and the cockpit is now safe)…so the feds can simmer down.

Another bonus to going with the train (Amtrak) is you do not get bumped. You pay for a ticket, you get a slot on the train. There’s no bullshit calling you to the airline desk to inform you that they’ve “overbooked” and you are bumped.

You are free to choose your own seat on the train, and move to another one if you so desire! Freedom! There’s a bar car, a dining car, a nice lounge car where you can sit and look outside from the comfort of a moving sunroom. Dump the plane, take the train (and push your local politicos for more light rail AND heavy passenger rail).

That nation has state-sponsored PTSD and you admire their ‘respectful profiling’? Sorry pal, I’m an American and that’s not acceptable around these parts. Pun intended…

Hmm, I’m wondering if you’re calling for racial profiling.

I know now that I’m in an insane asylum.

So, if the TSA grabber hooks on to a full Kotex, what happens next? “Ma’am, I’m sorry, but I’m going to have to ask you to remove your pad for inspection” ?
Good luck with that. I guess we’re doomed.

Loved your work on Youtube.

How much is the train ticket to Hawaii?

If they want to see you naked, why not just strip down for them? Let everyone see.

Tell me what it was because I have never put anything up on YouTube.

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I only wish I had somewhere to fly because I would love to be the one who does this, and would have no qualms about doing so.

Also known as “Problem Reaction Solution”.

No, I can’t agree with that, sorry. I want/need a job and I also live five minutes from a major international airport. A few weeks ago they were advertising a TSA job at pretty good wages and it was very tempting. I did not bother to apply – why, you ask? Just look at all the vitriol directed the way of TSA agents just in this thread alone. Even though I’m not a ‘mouth-breather’ nor a power-tripper – and I would treat everyone with the utmost respect and dignity – why should I subject myself to that kind of blanket hatred?

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There is no end to the creativity of the people on this site.

sticks of dynamite tampons, thats a new one

Enjoy it while it lasts, the companies that make the x-ray devices are going to be looking for new markets soon, and all it would take would be a couple train bomber ‘close calls’.

If Jet Blue has any objection to this, they’re being very quiet about it. Here’s their response to me when I wrote them with my concerns:

Dear XXXXXXX,
Thank you for taking the time to contact JetBlue. While we can certainly understand the
frustration that is caused by the new TSA security procedures, as an airline we are required to
cooperate with all FAA and TSA policies. The screening facilities at security are managed solely by TSA and we at JetBlue have no power or say over how these screenings are conducted.

You are certainly welcome to contact the TSA or your state government representatives to
share your concerns. The link below will direct you to TSA’s website. Please copy and paste it
into a new browser window.

http://www.tsa.gov/

Thanks for taking the time to express your concerns. We look forward to seeing you aboard
JetBlue sometime in the future.

Regards,
Customer Commitment
JetBlue Airways

That’s it?
Well, they will not be seeing me aboard their airline in the future, not with that kind of “we could care less” attitude. We’ll see how the other carriers respond to the same concerns.

When you go through the scanner and you have to hold up your hands, give them the finger for your photo.

Looking at this from a purely political angle, I see the anger over this is being aimed strictly at the Democrats. As far as I know, these scanners were initially proposed during the Bush administration and the current TSA is just following through as the machines become available.

Just watch how this is spun during the next election. Rightly or wrongly, the Republicans will be making lots of points from this.

Obese American women with sanitary napkins…now there’s prime jerk-off material.

Seriously, 95% of all Americans are so hideously obese or ugly that, even if someone is saving the images, no one is getting off to them.

Frequent fliers will soon have a glow about them.

Sooo not the point! Actually, incredibly stupid!

This is next…..you watch
http://www.bodyorificescanner.com/
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/01/crack-new-scanner-finds-explosives-insid
e-body-cavities/

They test all these police state devices on prisoners before they unleash them
on the rest of the prisoners outside the walls

X Ray Specs… always wanted a pair.
Let’s all just start streaking, remember those days?
Gimme the horse and buggy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-r5NkEkaXHQ

F_ _K THE GOVERNMENT

So, if you take the negative of that photograph shown above – I used the “negative” setting on my camera phone and aimed it at the image on the computer screen – It shows the above women in clear detail, all features visible, including her face. I wonder if she realized when she walked through that airport scanner, people would be able to see her naked on the internet… Thanks Uncle Sam.

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I see a new drinking game in my future!!!!

Father Mike, is that you?

The way in which this system was forced into widespread adoption without adequate evaluation or study, against the objections of virtually every airline, security expert, and passenger, and despite the obvious violations of privacy and dignity which it represents reeks of corruption on the part of someone in govt. Who supplies these machines, was there competitive bidding, were the systems thoroughly vetted from a technical, safety and effectiveness standpoint and who stood to gain from “contributions” or outright back handers from the manufacturer?

Um, that already happens, every day. Only very rarely does it result in one the TSA folks acting like a fully-grown adolescent.

“crotchtopus”. I can see a whole new industry um, springing up.

Uh, the person getting off on them would be someone that likes the feeling of control of the situation or that the subject doesn’t know or can do nothing about it. The subject doesn’t have to be a supermodel. Similar to the peeping tom of days past, except that now they can get paid for it by the Federal Government. Which of course, means that you are paying someone, somewhere to get off (if only in his head) by watching you stand there naked.

Just what we need…Tampax Bombs.

You can also use Photoshop or GIMP (the open source alternative) to invert the colors.

Make the Cheney bitches go through these scans since their Dick’s running of 9/11 brought this insult upon all travelers.

Also, I bet the radiation causes miscarriages, birth defects and sterility. Let the law suits begin. And where are the fetal idolators to protest these forced miscarriages??

Moreover, the Nazis experimented with radiation sterilizations. Some machines were disguised to prevent non-Aryan “vermin” from realizing they were being stealth sterilized as they leaned on “counters” to fill out paperwork.

These scans must also pick up IUDs, implants, fake body parts, etc.

….mspaint….CTRL+I

You can do that on this image because it’s not a real scan. Notice:
1/ Her arms are not up in the (assume the) scan position.
2/ she is super hot.

This was used on a website of one of the companies that produce the scanners. It’s promotional and it’s a Photoshop job. That’s why you can revert it. Because it was inverted to begin with.

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This is a HOAX. These photos have been proven to be FAKE!

http://trueslant.com/KashmirHill/2010/01/27/tsa-scanner-porn-hoax-fools-gizmodo-drudge-report/

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Go ahead touch my junk.

LOL, the TSA is still the biggest WASTE of an agency there is LOL

http://www.privacy-tools.edu.tc

this is not making us safer…. but it is making us used to the idea of our government taking our liberty

Another must watch video!

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/981.html

With all the Hoopla about scanners, this is when I would expect TSA to “plant” something for the scanners to find. Contrived justification for the scanners and pat-down gropings.

or get a group of nudists to parade to the planes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4OnhnvczTk&has_verified=1

You know, a background check on TSA members to make sure they don’t have a criminal record would be a good start…

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I read the other day that people who fly in private jets are not subject to the same sort of intrusive screening. If anyone is going to be carrying something illegal, these are the people who are rich enough to do it.

Remember during the Reagan years when Nancy Reagan was saying “Just say ‘No’ to drugs”? and the C.I.A. was smuggling alls sorts of conraband, including the drugs”.

If this is good for the public it is good for the “private” also.

This (singular) photo is not referenced anywhere in that link. Did you actually read it? The hoax you refer to were photos posted on Drudge and Gizmodo that were linked back to manipulated nude modeling images. The picture in the article is not that model nor is she assuming the model-like poses referred to in the linked page.

Seriously, read before you post.

The CIA is still smuggling all sorts of drugs.

You’re absolutely right. There’s nothing I’d love more than to tell them to shove all their airlines up the same orifice where they would like to put a camera. However, the economics and logistics of it make it impossible for some – myself being one of them. Unfortunately, my livelihood and that of my family depends on my job and job depends on my flying at least 3 weeks out of the month. Trust me, I’m looking for a way out but it’s not easy, particularly, with 20% or so unemployment. It’s absolutely sad that we have to put aside all of our principles, values, safety and common sense in lieu of a job. You see, no matter what happens, they always win at the end.

CIA has hit the motherload in Afghanistan. We have 6000 drones over there. Now we can fly out the smack and don’t even need to pay a pilot. Such a deal dahling

Stick-on, glow-in-the-dark letters then?

We are frogs. Is it getting warmer in here?

These people become objects of ridicule and scorn, that makes it okay?

That is absolutely true. There is zero security (TSA) at small private fields. I’m a
private pilot and I can go down to my local airport and climb into a plane without talking to anybody. I can take off and file a flight plan in flight or not if VFR. Nobody knows who is in the plane, pilot or passenger or what is in the plane.
I haven’t flown in some years and would need to get current but I am so pissed
off at this TSA nonsense that I’m going to get current so I can travel in peace
by air and not have to deal with these idiots at all. Oh! and on the CIA with the drugs. Why do you think we brought all the poppy fields back in Afghanistan? So
the CIA could smuggle heroin back into the US to fund their black projects like they did with Iran/Contra.

Bottom line, we now have Israeli level security and like them, we are no safer. And why are we at risk to begin with… because among many of the reasons cited by Bin Laden, we support the Zionists. Why should we be subject to this indignity so that Israel can continually piss off its neighbors? If we weaken our support for them, we can go back to flying safely and unmolested!

[...] because they don’t do what the unit in your doctor’s office does; they are a virtual strip search. And yes, it has been demonstrated over and over again that they can and do save favorite pictures. [...]

Even the Israelis don’t sexually molest plane passengers.

Growing up, many of us were told to watch out for perverts (there were many names for them). Children were told that no one should touch them in certain areas. Many of us were told that some of these perverts would disguise themselves as government officials (police, firemen, teachers, or anyone in authority). The point is that no adult should ever touch a child in that manner. What message are we giving our children, now? It’s okay if it’s the TSA? And now that we are adults, does that mean it’s okay? Will we soon be to the point where police will be able to stop you before you get onto a public bus and perform a security grope?

AKA business as usual for the US government.

If you need the money that badly you can just become a thief. More honorable.

No, he’s saying the system is a complete lie.

The Florida Supreme Court determined some time ago that ROADSIDE RECTAL SEARCHES are constitutional if you are stopped for a traffic violation and the police have a “reasonable suspicion” that you are hiding drugs or guns! Truth! Look it up…. So, why should the Feds stop at a mere pat down? I suspect that soon we will have to submit to rectal and vaginal searches at airports, too. How come this country was so outraged when Germany built a wall and demanded “papers” from law-abiding citizens and now we are doing the same things?

I think everyone should Opt-out then say to the patters, “Now that you got me all excited, are you going to at least finish the job?”

I’m waiting for someone to defend themselves against sexual assault and punch out a TSA goon. The trial should be interesting. If I was on the jury I know what my verdict would be.

Aah, ditto that.

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Umm….no we don’t. Israelis don’t use the imaging machines because they know they are ineffective. They use profiling instead. If you want to be anti-Israel, at least get your facts straight.

Relax, folks, the enhanced screening procedures are all very clearly explained right here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXDLQPfqc04

.

NO, this is NOT like the Israeli protection they provide their airports. The basic premise of the Israeli system is to PROFILE everyone who travels. Their PROFILING begins before you arrive and is a continuous process that ends at take off.

Our system is RANDOM thus we examine 90 year old women in wheelchairs while Bin Ladin cruses through TSA security.

Our system is based upon what the last terrorist did. So we start with box cutters, to liquids, to shoes, to crotches. I’m certain Bin Ladin is trying to figure out how to put explosives the rectum’s so our next TSA “improvement” will be a finger up the ass.

What we do is STUPID, what the Israeli’s do is smart.

We have to put up with this crap because of political correctness and we will NEVER PROFILE. Bullshit!

Take a boat like the most famous person we know that has a massive fear of flying: John Madden

Sacktopus.

Scrotopus.

Cocktopus.

Wangtopus.

I wouldn’t really call the 14th Amendment “political correctness,” but I agree with pretty much everything else. The choices shouldn’t be only racial profiling or invasion of privacy.

Dude, they have a canned response because 1) The TSA can ground them for bad-mouthing them and 2) there isn’t a damn thing they can do to change it.

95%? Really?

Check your facts, please:

“About 33 percent of adult men and 35 percent of U.S. women were obese in 2005-2006, according to a comprehensive survey by the federal government that includes physical examinations.”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22007477/ns/health-diet_and_nutrition

I can tell you never watched Jerry Springer! LOL!!!

What I want to know is WTF gives anyone the authority to do this?

I will take a Grey Hound bus instead. Think of it this way, there is money to be made in fear. Each of these scanners is nearly 200,000. I have no intention of taking a plane and going through that. And they are also keeping the scans. Why and for what purpose?

I have no objection to showing luggage, taking off shoes, having a wand passed over me. But I will be damned if I will have some total stranger feeling me top and bottom. And what if like me, you travel in slacks or jeans for convenience. Does this mean a person must also take off their pants and stand there in underwear? What about a wheel chair and someone who cannot walk or stand? Do they stay seated and are felt up and down or are they held up by a couple of big screeners and than patted down? And what about the tampon versus the pad, what then? Are other country’s like Israel or the UK forced to under go this nonsense?

Before I submit to this intimacy, I want dinner and a bottle of wine first. At the very least I want to know someone well enough to ask me, if it was good for me.

These TSA agents are violating the 4th Amendment of the Constitution…they are Oath BREAKERS!!

Our military, law enforcement, and ELECTED OFFICIALS need to HONOR THEIR OATH TO THE U.S. CONSTITUTION!!!

oathkeepers.org

Wear a t-shirt that reads “USA, where citizens are treated like criminals”

Yeah, sure, the best day to protest the enhanced pat-down technique is the day when millions are trying to fly to visit friends and families for Thanksgiving. To quote Bill Murray, “Tasty pick, BONEHEAD!”

I’ve been traveling in a kilt for years. And I never wear underwear…

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I’m planning on drawing a smiley face on my dick before heading out to the airport.

Dress it up for its big close-up.

Add some grease. Make them enjoy it as much as you do.

That’s exactly why they’re picking that day. Have so many people lined up that it’s impossible to do so. If you miss your flight due to security, you are entitled to a reschedule or refund. If enough people do this, the economic cost to the airlines–on their busiest day of the year–will be staggering.

Contact your congressiona representatives and senators and tell them to get control of their monster.

Call your congressional representatives and senators and tell them to get control of their monster!

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They can resist, They choose not to. I choose not to honor them with my business.

Agreed.

That’s why I don’t want pictures of naked me around.

No one needs to see that shit.

Not that many dudes like being groped by other dudes. Some do, but not most.

Women are checked by women, and vice versa.

Doesn’t make the situation much better, but lets try to understand the scope of this and how it affects all of us. ALL of us.

I just purchased a plane ticket, a kilt, and some astroglide……….this is gonna be a great Thanksgiving!!!!!

I hope it’s someone hot.

If the images are private, and allegedly cannot be “saved” to the computers
…. then where is this picture from, that we are looking at ???

TSA & US GOVT LIES TO THE PUBLIC AGAIN !!!

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To those who say this is no big deal, I’m afraid you may be unaware of the fundamental nature of participatory democracy and the principles that this country was founded on. Read the Constitution. Read the Declaration of Independence. We founded this country on the notion that we imbue the government with powers, not the other way around – building on the foundational belief that, left unchecked, all governments tend toward tyranny.

The Hobson’s Choice of standing in the cancer scanner, submitting to the rape search, or “choosing” not to fly has crossed the line far more than W’s warrantless domestic wiretapping – now, not only have I given up my privacy and dignity to the government without probable cause, but I also have to let government agents sexually grope me, my wife, and my daughter – or be referred to the FBI.

I don’t mean to go all bombastic here, but isn’t this pretty much the stuff we fought against at Lexington & Concord? Bunker Hill? Verdun? Guadalcanal? Inchon? Da Nang? Fallujah? And some of us can still say, “Oh, it’s not a big deal – get over it”? According to no less than the Wall Street Journal today, the TSA is also seeking approval to use electronic stun collars on all passengers – no, this is not an article in the Onion. Do the aforementioned folks support that too? Probably yes – why wouldn’t they? If you haven’t done anything wrong, you have nothing to fear, right?

TSA head John Pistole keeps insisting that these measures are designed to give travelers the safety that they demand – but have you heard anyone demanding this? I fly constantly – the only thing people have been demanding in my experience is that any given airport open more than one or two of the dozen or more security lanes so that the line moves a bit quicker.

May I suggest an alternative – that the folks that think we need cancer scanners, rape searches, and stun collars not fly, and leave the rest of us the hell alone? I have to be honest with you – I am a hard-left dem, but I swear to God, if the current administration does not cut this crap out, I’ll start voting for the Tea Party. Palin/Bachmann 2012!

It will be a COLD DAY in hell before I travel to the US again. Me and my tourist dollars are staying in Asia, thank you.

Great comment TomHalle, but the Battle of Verdun was over long before the US entered the war.

They couldn’t have planned it on a better day. Hell, if I was traveling in the US on the 24th I’d be joining them.

Oh My weary legs, Finally a bench with someone who actually makes sense! Mind if I sit next to ya for a bit? I ain’t weird, just tired.

Logically speaking isn’t the whole next higher assembly oath breaking as well?
Might the DHS de-activated?

There appear to be few problems the United States currently has which aren’t bound back to a person breaking the oath in some agency or office

We don’t need a witch hunt or (McCarthyism v2.0) to sort it out, but we do need something logical which acts quickly and accurately and cuts across the same old state secrets meme. And it has to be under PUBLIC control.

We can’t be SCARED to walk into an airport to travel, or serve Jury Duty.

And we don’t need corporate media’s biased help, the 4th estate is a cult brainwash, the end result of such pinball game, would be more excuses and scanners.

abc, cbs, fox, pbs, nbc don’t take oaths to protect the constitution. Remember that when you see their rigged polls.

I saw the head of security for El Al, I believe it was Isreal, and he said we’re ridiculous for what we’re doing. It doesn’t work, and it’s hurting our country and our people. They don’t do that. Instead, they interview every passenger, and they have very well-trained people who know what they’re looking for, and know what they’re doing.

Why do Americans always get caught up in such stupid BS? It’s usually for money.

Fair enough

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It’s MANN Coulter!!

I would rather starve than have to peel junk all day.

I don’t. Side note: Elevator TV was reporting that 95% of Thanksgiving travelers are planning on driving this year. I guess they’re keeping their junk closer to the trunk.

Be like Smokey Robinson and dig Cruisin’ Together.

Or just tell them “hey, watch your teeth down there!”

I have a solution: Don’t fly or obtain your own pilot’s license.

Your own pilot’s license won’t help, at least not at the large airports. As a pilot you’re allowed to fully control an aircraft which, in its materials resembles a rather large bomb (loosely coupled metal parts -> shrapnel, fuel to blow things up), but you won’t be able to get there without people taking care that you (supposedly) can’t carry any additional bomb ingredients around.

Ya know… It’s not those sanitary napkins that ya gotta look out for… It’s the unsanitary ones…

Sorry (yawn) it’s early yet.

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CNN had a story about that this morning and of course you can’t find it anymore. YES images are being saved. There is no such thing a privacy anymore. The government is raping us and then posting pictures afterward.

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Profiling as well can be extremly stupid and dangerous as they will just pick terrorists that don’t look like terrorists. They already have before. I agree that training these people better than we have is essential and these “pat-down” procedures are pointless and unnecessary, but profiling is not the answer.

I agree. We need a different policy for kids. There is no way I’m going to stand there while my daughter gets groped by some person, male or female.

Wow! You just made my day! :)

TSA uproar: Stop whining and get scanned (The Week)…

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The only people the government has the right to see naked are convicted felons, or those who pose an immediate threat to lives. 99.9% of the flying public does not pose an immediate threat to lives. End of story!
This is totally unconstitutional and the only people who benefit from this are crooks like Michael Chertoff!

The only people the government has the right to see naked are convicted felons, or those who pose an immediate threat to lives. 99.9% of the flying public do not pose an immediate threat to lives. End of story!
This is totally unconstitutional and the only people who benefit from this are crooks like Michael Chertoff!

I’m sure Thomas Jefferson is turning in his grave.

That’s not a solution. It’s a stooopid comment, Tell it to the people that are flying to Europe or someone with a health issue!

Kate,
The point of the Israeli version is that they PROFILE everyone. Not just people who “look” like terrorists. They interview everyone and watch for behavioral clues. They have never had an incident and they are surrounded by enemies.

Your comment about Ann Coulter made my fuckin DAY, man.

Make sure that you moan loudly and sensually as they are patting you down. When they are finished, make a phone gesture with your hand to your face and tell them to call you.

stoopid monkey. stoopid negroid.

The ARE the monsters. The mass majority of them basically said this shit was okay when they voted for the Patriot Act.

This is all hogwash plain and simple. Another governmental dog and pony show. We are spending massive amounts of money and time all because our great leaders and civil rights lawyers say we can’t profile. Either way we loose. If we don’t profile then our civil rights are violated by being fondled by some unknown TSA employee. If we do profile then we holler our civil rights are again violated, therefore, if either choice is a civil rights violation let’s choose the option that affects the least number of people which is guess what? PROFILING. Let’s wake up and quit listening to all the government hype.

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Gov’t says full-body scanners at airports are safe (AP)…

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I will take the molestation over the radiation.

Non-violent demonstration of dislike for the TSA agents (for doing what they are doing) at airports is simply negative Social Preferencing. Extending that to non-voluntary association with these agents away from the airport and very likely there would be far fewer individuals willing to take on such jobs. Under those circumstances the current administration would have to totally rethink the way in which violence-free airline flights can take place.

It is in an airline company’s best interest financially to provide safe travel – injured and/or dead passengers and crew (and/or 3rd parties involved on the ground) do not make for a financially healthy company. In a truly free society an airline company would offer grades/levels of services including safety, and customers would purchase according to their individual value structure. Airlines would, in such a society, likely have plane flights of varying levels of pre-boarding screening to prevent possible in-flight violence – to the extent that the company’s managers perceived that in-flight violence was a concern of air travelers – just as they might provide separate flights for smokers, families with young children, or those with unique interests/concerns.

Don’t like the fabricated fear and/or “security theater”? – both government productions.

When large numbers of people take fewer flights (or none at all), the airlines will be motivated to make their own waves with the federal government – diminishing revenues make a big difference. And of course the process will necessarily need to include open discussion of the *reasons* for why flights into certain areas may carry with them more risk – why travel to/within the USA has more potential for “terrorist activity” than, for instance, to/within Switzerland (when not from USA). I don’t think there are terrorists out to wreak havoc on the Swiss people… their government hasn’t been out dictating to and/or invading most of the rest of the world.

My recommended current measures for those traveling:
- Fly commercial airlines *only* when absolutely necessary for physical presence quickly;
- If flying commercial for essential time critical reason – loudly proclaim objection to search/scan measures & complying *only* because of necessary flight;
- Publicize why not flying;
- Do not voluntarily associate with TSA agents – negative Social Preferencing;
- Publicize names and photos of TSA agents so that others can negatively Social Preference (TSA cannot operate as currently if very few individuals are willing to scan/grope);
- Be identifiable in all the above since anonymity does *not* engender highest level of support.

Suggestions for non airlines flying options such as private pilots/flying clubs/charters can be very useful – and hopefully will be expanded by group(s) coordinating private pilots/charters and prospective passengers.

How about wearing undies with “Bite My Ass” embroidered across my ass in lead thread?

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I was just thinking this morning, what happens if a woman is on her monthly and is wearing a pad? Do you need to take it out and show it to the TSA worker? Maybe tear it up in front of the TSA agent to ensure there nothing inside except, well you know. Maybe they will insist you don’t fly wearing tapons or pads? Will you get hauled off and strip searched? Should you yank out the tapon in front of TSA? Not to be crude, but what do they do in these cases? Thank God I’m pass that stage in my life, but I feel for those woman out there that have to explain to a stranger that “It’s my time of the month”. I understand they have to be “on the alert” for these bomber, but if they want to blow up a plane what’s to stop them from shallowing something to be set off in flight?

here is how you make TSA uncomfortable

Ask for pat down. INSIST on the pat down.

If your a male, INSIST on a FEMALE TSA person to do the patdown

It’s win win. Make the TSA girl uncomfortable. AND you get a semi hot, young chick, feeling your junk for free. And you don’t even have to pay her! How awesome is that!

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Nut Up you wimps.

Nut Up you wimps.

Nut Up you wimps.

Honestly, have you ever seen even a semi-hot TSA employee? I haven’t.

My son just flew from Houston and forgot he brought is large folding pocket knife. The lady checking bording passes told him to just put it through the x ray and they would tell him what to do with it. He put it in plane view in a tub with his boots. It came out the other side and no one said anything. He put it in his pocket and got on the plane. Strong work.

Exactly how the 911 – 19 got on-board I suspect!

So what happens if I wear aluminum foil undergarments?

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Recently I traveled to the East Coast for a relative’s wedding. She asked me to perform at the reception, so I brought my saxophone, an older one made of very thick and heavy metal. I assumed that TSA would ask me to take it out of the case so they could look inside of it, since it would be easy to hide a weapon or explosive inside the instrument. However, they did not even ask me to open the case on the way there or on the way back.

Soon after that another relative asked me to play at her wedding on the West Coast. Same thing happened: I was never asked to take the instrument out of the case during inspection.

This is just another example of the phoney quality of these security efforts. And all this is motivated by some phoney, false-flag attacks on 9/11/2001 that were never adequately investigated.

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Yes, it’s phony. I’ve never been asked to show my epipen which is filled with liquid and, of course, has a large needle in it.

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Here is the thing they can touch whatever they need to and scan or look at anything their little heart desires. If that what it takes to keep myself my children and Grandbabies safe. Bitch about being inconvenienced or embarrassed but you will be the first to complain when your plane is headed for the ground!!!

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The security is there for a reason. If it’s TSA that you object to, maybe we should call in the National Guard to do the job. Ever been to Europe where airports are patrolled by armed military men and women with the authority to shoot? This country is the most ungrateful bunch of crybabies, with short memories, in the world! If you don’t like airport security then take the bus, take a boat, walk, drive or just don’t go – just quit whining because you’re “slightly” inconvenienced.

You people make me physically ill. You so quickly forget how many times these idiot extremeists have taken control of our airlines and killed our people. You forget how many people have died at the hands of terrorists. You cant fly anymore because you dont want to have people see your fat naked ass, Boo damn Hoo. Your personal space is NOT WORTH MY LIFE, or your life I suppose… There is NOTHING illegal about a search you willingly subject yourself to. I dont care how much you shine about it while its happening. You know it happens yet you go to the airport anyway. Its WILLING. You dont like it take a bus. Get out of the airport. Itll make wait times at the airport for people like me who believe safty first even shorter.

The reason we can’t profile is because it’s not an accurate way of finding any terrorist. Many people forget that there has been american terrorists in the past. If you look up prior to 9/11, the greatest act of terrorism was in Oklahoma(sounds familiar?). An american army veteran killed 168 people, and is referred to as the Oklahoma city bomber. So, should we profile just base on the latest threat, because is the freshest on our memories. Profiling would work if there weren’t any history proving otherwise.

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You might willingly subject yourself to it because its the only way to get on the flight. People usually do not like random strangers touching their junk, and I’m only 13 and I still have to either show my naked body or let people I don’t know touch me. I am not comfortable with that and it bothers me even though I’m going to let them because I want to get to Boston and see my family.

You might willingly subject yourself to it because its the only way to get on the flight. People usually do not like random strangers touching their junk, and I’m only 13 and I still have to either show my naked body or let people I don’t know touch me. I am not comfortable with that and it bothers me even though I’m going to let them because I want to get to Boston and see my family.

It’s not really only a slight inconvenience.
Rape victims that are trying to live life normally like nothing ever happened to them will probably find this VERY troublesome. Violation. Again.

Shut up. What if you got an old woman? Would you feel so hot then?
And WHY would you make TWO people uncomfortable?
And just saying, most people would find that having to touch another man’s junk is just as awkward.
So shut up, because while I might only be 13 I am very offended by this because as a girl I would NOT like to have someone TRY to make me feel uncomfortable for being a TSA officer and have to touch your junk because frankly, you’re an idiot.

Watch you get kicked out.

Says the person who decided to make a point by spelling “stooopid” incorrectly. Wanna make a point? Sound smart.

I imagine there are numerous other events that would be just as troublesome – like Physician’s visits, therapy, court testimony, police statements… None of those is a reason to forego security at the airport. This is a viable measure in response to terrorism and the world we live in today (as opposed to the world that existed when the Constitution was written). Unless an airline chooses to fly without security measures in place, and can find willing crew members to also fly without any security measures, then there are no alternatives. Everyone seems to forget that it is the airlines who DEMANDED stricter security after 9/11 – it’s not the TSA employees who created this demand nor is it the employees who dictate the policies and procedures. Flying is not the only means of transportation available, if security offends you then find another way to travel.

I imagine you enjoy having someone “touch your junk” about as much as TSA enjoys “touching your junk”. Think about it kid, they deal with hundreds of people every day they work, old, young, fat, thin, pretty, ugly and every combination you can imagine, after a while it gets old. And why are you flying naked?

I was told that TSA had special policies for handling musical instruments and were not supposed to handle them if it could be avoided. I imagine the xray would have picked up anything even remotely resembling an IED in any case.

Oh, golly, someone flunked comprehension in school.

What is the age limit for getting the full body scan? I know I wouldn’t want my preteen getting zapped while they are still growing. With these scaners still in development we are taking a chance that a lot of these children will be sterile when they grow up if they are scaned.

So… QuitCrying1… are you speaking as someone who flies very often? Because then it would be okay to have that opinion. Heck, there’s nothing wrong with you having this opinion.

But if you don’t fly often and your life isn’t in danger and your privacy isn’t in danger either- then you have no vested interest in this debate.

I fly three to four times a year. I dress in sweats and thin shirts and forgo jewelry in order to expedite going through security. I’m also an exhibitionist with no history of sexual abuse- if they want to see me naked, I don’t care.

But that doesn’t make me an insensitive prick who will villify people who may be shy, or insulted or otherwise hurt by this stupid process.

Stop being a prick.

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As I understand it there is no age limitations on who can or cannot be screened by the airport back scatter scanners. That alone should be raising warning flags but the TSA could care less. All they want is to prove how officious they can be when it comes to trampling on the Bill of Rights and the Constitution.

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I dont think that 14 year-old girl who happens to be having her period should have to be fondled, exposed and permanently scarred because of of this issue. If the extremists really wanted to take over the plane, they would find a way no matter what kind of scanning is done. Also you are probably unaware of the potential risk of radiation damage that could be done especially to a child?? or a pregnant woman?? Would you want your daughter isolated in a room while they force her to pull out her tampon while groping her body??

In reply to your linked article:

Oh, gee, I don’t know, but maybe British people are not aware that X-rays are powerful mutagens and that the long-term safety of repeated exposure to the full-body scans has yet to be determined. Cancer, sterility, cornea damage? Damage to sperm cells resulting in birth defects? Pregnant women? Do they have to go through the x-rays too?

We have medical research scientists objecting that we shouldn’t use our people as guinea pigs. Not too surprisingly, a good number of our people agree. Yes, the radiation level is low, but these are X-rays we are talking about, and rather than being dispersed through the whole body they are concentrated on the skin and underlying tissues. Ever heard of skin cancer?

When I have X-ray scans they will be only of the affected body part and performed for valid medical reasons by a professional radiologist on equipment which is monitored and serviced as required for medical equipment. I will not be x-rayed by minimally trained government lackeys. There are alternative means of travel.

Health ramifications aside, we Yanks also have a constitutional ban on “unreasonable search and seizure”. Our founding fathers set for us the example that when the government treads on our rights, it is our DUTY to change matters. And notwithstanding whatever claptrap you hear about us on your telly, a lot of us still believe it.

Anyone who supports this is an idiot. WAKE UP! The reason these machines are in airports has NOTHING to do with security and EVERYTHING to do with money. Lets be real, what terrorists? The CIA? Come on America wake the fuck up it’s 2010..

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‎”Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” Benjamin Franklin

‎”Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” Benjamin Franklin

Says the 13 year old who used “wanna” in a sentence. It is “want to.” Read a book, other than “Twilight.”

Did you bother reading anything about this before you commented? That’s EXACTLY why they picked that day. Get informed.

‎”Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” Benjamin Franklin

‎”Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” Benjamin Franklin

Great Quote, but this is not an essential liberty. Nowhere in the constitution or the bill of rights does it say “the right to fly without being searched”

Great quote, problem is, nowhere in the bill of rights or the constitution does it mention flying without being searched as a basic civil liberty.

This is a limited dose of radiation that is 1/4 that of an actual xray. if you own a microwave youre doing more damage to your kids… savage! it will only scar someone if theyre conditioned to be scarred. EG its only a big deal if theyre conditioned for it to be a big deal. If you dont like the options… take a bus, no one is forcing anyone to be searched.

PRICK? SERIOUSLY? How about you lose people in a fuck**& terrorist attack and then come back at me with prick. how about youre an uppity know it all who deserves to have loved ones on the next plane that goes down. i lost three family members that day. THREE. i dont give a good damn whos shy, your pride is not worth my family members lives. period.

thats why they invented buses my friend. its the best of both worlds, your privacy is in tact and no one will fly a plane into the pentagon.

Strange you don’t mention the death of your family members until now. While I am sorry for your loss, that does not excuse the fact that the current scanners and patdowns are security theater. Remember, those terrorists hijacked the planes with box cutters, not bombs. I am a New Yorker as well, and can trade horror stories about death same as you can. That does not change the fact you are being a prick.

Stop being a prick.

The Fourth Amendment of the Constitution. Duh. You are a prick and an idiot.

The Fourth Amendment protects individuals’ rights against the unlawful search and seizure of their property. These rights typically extend to places in which the individual has a reasonable expectation of privacy, including their homes, property, businesses, and personal space. These protections extend to many forms of government intrusion, including search and seizure by officers of the law.

Many individuals who have their persons or property searched have reason to question the legality of the officers’ actions. There are specific protections that are afforded to every citizen and only certain circumstances in which their property may be searched and/or seized. The Fourth Amendment also prevents items unlawfully seized from being used against the individual during criminal proceedings.

If you are afraid of terrorist attacks, then maybe you should crawl in a cave or take a prozac. I take it that you don’t have a daughter. Because if you did, I am sure that you would be outraged if security took her to the side and made her take out her tampon in front of complete strangers yadda yadda yadda… And how do you know that the radiation from the scanners are less than an actual X-Ray? And how would you go about “conditioning” a young female to handle a situation like that? Think about. Yes there needs to be precautions, but there needs to be more functional-less intrusive way to do so.THE NEW SCANNING IS JUST A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY. If that makes you feel more confident and safe, so be it. Like I said before, if a terrorist wanted to take a plane down, or try to , they would find a way. Do you think that a terrorist would bring a bomb disguised as a tampon on a plane? And yes, I would rater drive than force my daughter to be manhandled and mortified by a stranger. Nor would I unnecessarily radiate my baby’s ovaries because teh wack-os are terrified.

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An you are a naieve little twat… prick and an idiot indeed. The fourth amendment does protect us from unreasonable search and seizure. When people are hijacking planes and blowing them up, searching people with all our abilities no longer becomes unreasonable. Please understand, I dont give two good shits that you dont want your fat ass x-rayed. You can throw around all the legal swerve you want and make all the noise that you want but the bottom line is, you are still volunteering to be searched when you buy the damn ticket. Take some time and think about what youre saying before you go spouting a few quotes for a document you clearly have no clue how to read on your own.

Then simply take the scan. Why is it so hard? Good god why is it so hard for you people to realize there are TWO options here. OH NO! the scanner will give me CANCER… evil evil cancer! You all have microwaves and likely use them EVERY day. This is hardly any worse than that. This is the same shit that people whined about with cell phones causing cancer. You are all both joiners and alarmists.

If you were paying attention- I said clearly in my first post that I don’t mind being searched- I have nothing to hide. But I was expressing dismay in your lack of empathy for others in them having a reasonable problem with being searched without cause. Clearly you are not listening, yourself, or have a set agenda. It’s naive, not “naieve”.

You’re a prick, for not giving two good shits about others, and you’re a demonstrable idiot, as you cannot spell. I might be a little twat- but since “naieve” isn’t a word, I’m not sure how I can be that.

How about this. Go FUCK yourself. If youre a New Yorker, youre a poor excuse for one. If being a prick is what it takes to let little bitches like you know that I am not willing to lose one more relative, not one more life then so be it. How the HELL are people not outraged anymore about 9/11. How the hell do we forget… NEVER FORGET 9/11! A slogan, nothing fucking more apparently.

I remember it quite well. I also remember how strong the people of the city were- how gracious. We donated blood to the Red Cross in droves, hoping for survivors. I remember the smell of the ash coming over the water all the way to my apartment in Brooklyn. I remember for months how everyone had an American flag out on their porch, and anything with that theme plastered to the windows of their cars. I remember seeing pictures of a new World Trade Center made to look like a defiant raised middle finger. Because we were stronger, and more together, and weren’t going to be intimidated by terrorists. We were going to say “Fuck you” to the terrorists- not to each other. Do you remember that part? No. All you remember is to be afraid.

I remember the twin beam of lights that were on every night, beacons of light on the South of Manhattan. I remember talking with strangers about where I was that day, what I was suppose to do that day but couldn’t- there were no more strangers for that little while. I’m not intimidated by terrorists, if that’s what you think is being a true New Yorker- then you’ve lost sight of some things.

Again, I am sorry you lost people. I did too. But where as you have let your grief make you immune to the humanity of others- I try every day not to let it. Because then the terrorists win, and we start forcing people to feel up other people because it’s become their job- instead of putting time and resources into counter-terrorism we’re stripping Americans of their freedoms for no good reason.

Oh if they wanted to take one down they would… hrm youre right… lets stop using scanners on luggage and get rid of the costly secutiry measures alltogether that way we can fly for less since none of that crap works any way. While were at it, why do we have cops? if a criminal wants to be a criminal, they will do so regardless of safty measures right? Your logic is flawed sir. And if these scanners and pat downs save just ONE life, for me it will have meen worth it. I have a HIGH regard for human life, even the fucktards below calling me a prick. I would rather be pat down to save their lives than not.

FYI I DO have a daughter, and I understand your argument. My counter point is that I know its not a perfect system, while I understand its not perfect and needs adjustment it is still something that is better than nothing.

Oh and about the radiation… “The American College of Radiology states, “An airline passenger flying cross-country is exposed to more radiation from the flight than from screening by one of these devices.”

Source: http://www.examiner.com/women-s-issues-in-phoenix/radiation-exposure-levels-from-tsa-body-scanners

Like I say in a few lines down… people who are against this are joiners and alarmists. nothing more.

First, pointing out a spelling error to try and win a debate/argument is both desprate and jejune.

Second, when I say “you” i dont mean you personally. The operation of “you” in my previous post was merely a generalization of people who are against this. Yes I have no empathy, yes I have no regard for anyones privacy if it means saving their lives or what is infinitely more important, mine. See, you say I dont give two shits about others, and you are quite wrong. I care more than they do apparently, because they let their modesty take presidence over their security.

First, the “go fuck yourself” was in reference to your back handed attempt at calling me a liar. This simply has nothing to do with fear. It is a security measure not unlike baggage screning and metal detectors. I understand you dont want to be “felt up” but if you go to any concert, or sporting event you go through a very similar process. I understand that the TSA is having people take out prostetic breasts and tampons and assorted other harmless items but that is after a scan picks it up as something potentially harmful. You are up in arms about one in 1000 occurances, and that is most likely a modest figure. You don’t hear anything from the thousands upon thousands of people who go through the scanner without any incident. I do feel bad because some people will have to take the bus to avoid having their modesty brought to light, but not as bad as i would feel if one more plane goes down.

I already mentioned I don’t mind being “felt up”. But I do mind that other people mind being “felt up”.

Okay- let’s say this becomes the norm; what is to keep state governments from adapting these screening processes to other public places; like high schools? High schools have more of a likelihood of someone bringing a weapon- often we hear about killings that go on in high schools, where a student will bring a gun and kill other students. In order to protect your teenage daughter- would you allow a stranger to look at her naked body through a full image scanner, or instead grope her body in these beyond-normal pat downs? Could you imagine her scared, and unable to understand why some stranger gets to look at her privates? Or ask her to take out her tampon? Of if it were your teenage son, in a similar situation?

They’re in greater danger of being murdered than most airline passengers. Would you agree then that they should just be home schooled (the equivilent of taking the bus) instead of going to high school? Should they opt out on an education that is necessary in order to get a job?

The point of this controversy is- where does it end? When does the reasonable desire not to get killed end in a police state?

Why is it okay to humiliate a woman who has had a masectomy? A man who has a colostomy bag? These things are private not because they are illegal or wrong- but because no one needs to know these things. It’s beyond horrifying.

It’s not like the FBI or CIA don’t exist. Airport security is the last line of defense. Our focus should be on not letting them get to the airport. What’s to keep them from blowing up the airport terminal, while everyone is waiting to be pat down?

Civil liberties are what this country is about.

Thanks for your support, see you then. What you wrote is great advice any way that you look at it.

Actually, you’re incorrect. There are two options if you are a physically healthy individual who is capable of walking through the scanner with your arms raised over your head. If you are not capable of maintaining that position long enough to satisfy their needs to take the scan you HAVE to have the pat down. You have no other choice. Do not give me the specious argument that I could take a bus. Many bus terminals have their own forms of security. Yes, I can drive to and from my destination so long as I have the time available to drive. If a person travels for business, their options are much more limited (and do not even think about trying the “well they should get a different job” argument because the current job market isn’t exactly aligned with “quit this job and find another super fast” thinking).

I understand that people want to be safe. I believe that there are much better ways for people to be safe. I believe that some of the methods employed in other countries are MUCH more acceptable both to safety and to personal space. Israel is a very good example of this. Do some research on their airport security. I think that the fact that people are willing to give up not only their own freedoms and personal liberties but everyone else’s for the sake of their alleged safety when there is zero research to back this up and when there is, in fact, research that suggests that the backscatter scanners are really not doing what TSA claims they will do, is incredibly short-sighted and at best, incredibly rude.

I do have concerns about the radiation emissions from the scanners. At peak performance, they are not dangerous. What happens when they are NOT at peak performance? They don’t know. Medical grade scanning equipment has to be serviced regularly and by trained professionals. What are TSA’s guidelines for service of these machines that are likely to be used MUCH more than a hospital scan? While I have these concerns, they are not the greatest concerns I have.

One is “will I be have a day where I am physically capable of walking through the scanner or will I not be having a day where I am physically capable of walking through the scanner.” If I am NOT having a day where I am physically capable of doing so, am I going to be able to mentally and emotionally handle a woman I do not know touching me in places that I am incredibly selective about who sees and/or touches? Is my IUD going to set off red flags and make me go through that pat down anyway? There is no documentation on TSA’s web site about whether an IUD will show up on a scan or not. I know this because I’ve spent the better part of an hour trying to find it. If that IS going to show up on a scan, then I might as well simply opt for the pat down and save myself some time. Moreover, what right does TSA have to know what birth control method I use? Quite frankly the fact that women are being pulled aside for an extra pat down because they are unlucky enough to be on their periods and need a pad or a tampon is inane. Being on your cycle is annoying enough. Having someone inform you that they need to check for SURE that you are on your period and have need of a sanitary napkin or a tampon is far more intrusive than any so-called security measure has a right to be.

People like you are so gungho about taking whatever the government says is “for your protection” without doing any research on your own and you’re even more willing to slam anyone who dares to question the almighty TSA because you’re afraid that 9/11 will happen again. Your attitude honestly confuses me. It seems as though people like you would have MORE reason to question these methods and to demand proof that they work before blindly agreeing to them than people who didn’t lose anyone. Why are you so willing to sign everyone up for these scans when so far, the wide-scale implementation of them has not gone all that well. Research some of the things that have happened that have included TSA violating their own rules and regulations including harassing people with colostomy bags and separating children from their parents and then try to tell me that you believe that the people that TSA hires are well-trained in the use of the equipment they are implementing.

How about instead of telling people who object to these methods that they are wrong, that they should just “stay home,” and that they should quit whining and suck it up and take it you actually stop to consider the multiple ways that these scanners ultimately fail. How about instead of feeling morally superior because “you could take the other option,” you think about the people who actually cannot. My best friend is in a wheelchair part of the time and uses a cane the rest of the time. She, like myself, has days where walking through the scanner the way that they make you would not only be next to impossible, but the trying would also be physically painful. So many people seem to want to talk about how those cases are so few in number they aren’t worth talking about and yet there are reports every week about the troubles that TSA causes with people with disabilities.

Safety is important. Blindly following because someone tells you that this process will make you safer is foolish.

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Can you not make your point without profanity? Make your point rather than attack other people’s perspectives. This is America you are entitled to your opinion and others are entitled to theirs. Whether you agree or disagree if you value humankind as you profess, a bit of decency would bring validity to your comments rather than make you look arrogant and honestly a bit foolish and unreputable.

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The fourth amendment does guarantee protection from unreasonable search and seizure.

The fourth amendment does guarantee protection from unreasonable search and seizure.

So what?. I also lost a cat in a car accident, and I am not making a fuzz about it……

The article did not answer whether or not they will ask a woman to re,ove her bloody tampan or sanitary napkin. That is a personal concern that females have. So, what is the answer???

The article did not answer whether or not they will ask a woman to re,ove her bloody tampan or sanitary napkin. That is a personal concern that females have. So, what is the answer???

typing error correction should read: ….will they ask a woman to remove her bloody tampon or sanitary napkin?

What is the answer?

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Whatever. HOW CAN YOU GO OVERSEA WITH A BUS??? UNLIKE YOU, PEOPLE ACTUALLY GO OUTSIDE OF US!!!

QuitCrying1:

Not everybody is poor like you and can’t afford to go oversea.
SHOW ME HOW CAN YOU GO OVERSEA WITH A BUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you want to get a bomb past the scanner, just hide it under a pancake. The scanner can’t see past the pancake and it just looks like body fat to the TSA agent ;P

How safe do you feel now???

These scanners aren’t actually protecting us from anything. Just the fact that they’re there means the terrorists have already won.

That definitely sounds like more fun!

QuitCrying I am terribly sorry to hear about your loss, but you are not the only one who has suffered the loss of a loved one.

I lost my father to cancer, and his cancer started out as melanoma, a form of skin cancer.

My father suffered a long, horrifying, agonizing death and I got to watch it. He was semiconscious, drugged on morphine, and still writhing in pain–for day after day after day. He even begged another family member to get a gun out of the safe and shoot him. THAT IS HOW HORRIBLE A DISEASE CANCER IS. You obviously don’t have a clue about it–not that you would actually give a damn about another human being’s pain and suffering. You’re too busy hating each and every person, including me, who has dared to post a comment on this board.

Because of my family history I can not and will not take the chance of getting skin cancer. I wear SPF 50 sunscreen 365 days of the year, and I can not and will not allow myself to be placed in a naked body scanner.

So QuitCrying I happen to own a very nice SUV, thank you very much, and that SUV takes me just about anyplace I care to go, and I don’t have to worry about the TSA exposing me to skin cancer so I can die the way my father did.

So go ahead, QuitCrying. Spew your hate speech towards me because I lost a loved one to a horrible, horrible disease and because I choose to avoid getting that same disease. Call me a whore or other sexual hate slur that you’ve been calling women on this board. (It’s obvious that you hate women, BTW.) And while you’re at it, QuitCrying, why don’t you tell me that my father deserved to get cancer and that he deserved to die such a horrible, horrible death. Since he didn’t die in 9/11, (he died in 1997) his death doesn’t count anyway, right? I’m fully aware that you’re the only one on this board who is allowed to feel any kind of pain or sorrow over the loss of a loved one.

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[...] because they give a graphic image of your body, including genitalia and other personal effects like sanitary napkins, the devices have raised all sorts of health- and privacy [...]