Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins are both senators from Maine, not Vermont. And I didn’t even have to look that up.
Makes one wonder about the accuracy of the rest of the article, let alone the education and knowledge of the writer(s).

“Those senators included Sens. Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins, both Republicans from Vermont.” Should read “Maine.”

Yeh, the artical weres probably writtin by an overpayd incompetent male.

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This is sheer political showcasing, and the gals from Maine are right this time. Loser Democrats are trying to stir up their moribund “base” — but anybody looking for a job knows that an employer will hire you if you can produce income that equals or exceeds your pay, and won’t hire you if you can’t — no matter what your gender, backgrounds, color, or favorite sports team.

Look at the resumes of members of congress and the senate. How many have ever run a business? For that matter, how many have ever worked for one? How many of them ever personally hired anybody besides a lawn service?

Wow, kudos to the Repugs! They’re giving the Fundies a bad name. By the end of their term, they should be telling their women to ‘shut their yap’ in front of men and in church and such other wonderful things as their Buybull calls for.

With every step they take, humanity goes backwards three more.

Time to start counting nails in the 2012 Rethuglican party electoral coffin. Within two years the list of fascist excesses will be lengthy, they will have alienated all save their perhaps 30 percent base and the coffin fully steel.

yeah….just like in the last election!

This demonstrates conclusively that women who vote Republican are like Jews voting for the Nazi Party. There were any number of Jews who did in 1933.

So, to extend your logic, you’re saying that a woman will be more likely to get hired because the boss will pay her less, and thus get a favborable production/payroll ratio? If I could stomach hiring women at a smaller wage, I would prefer hiring women to improve that ratio you described. Why would I want to pay more to a man when a woman can do it for a substantial amount less? I think gender would have a great deal to do with it, right? I know this bill would increase litigation, but there’s no other recourse to fix this inequity. How can you get behind blocking this bill?

they must have been liberal ones.

Ooooh , poor babies, couldn’t muster 60 votes.

When are the Dems going to grow a spine and tell the Repubs, “Hey, you want to fillibuster, Go for it!” Force them to shut down the business of the Senate. Expose them to the American voters for the obstructionists they are.

I’d love to see Olympia Snowe trying to explain for hours on end how unequal pay is not an undue burden on women. Or, Mitch “Yertle the Turtle” McConnel standing at the podium reading a phone book until he pisses his pants.

No. Nazi ones.

Sieg Heil mother effers. Stay in step now. Don’t think for yourselves. I can only hope that dems block every piece of legislation that these DACS traitors bring to the floor.

The NSDAP was the National Socialist Democratic Workers Party. Democracy is not necessarily just. It’s rule of the majority which might not be rule of the just and decent but mob rule.

Im surprised they didnt go with “Unequal pay creates jobs” meme.

what a backward country of hicks and hypocrites…

Oh it is just a law to make women equal….if they did they who would stay home and cook their meals and clean their wee faces…all those crazy Chattel…errr I mean women would go out and get jobs…ohhhh wait they are working already…..darn… Maybe the guys can get together and vote in a bill that will make women’s pay only half of men’s — that will drive them back to the kitchens. Rat Astards

So, in order to not have “small businesses” be responsible and incur a slight cost increase, the right-wing women opted instead to put that cost on the general public, to force women (including single mothers) to have to struggle more because it would be “unfair” to have businesses “do the right thing”..

man, I fucking hate right-wingers. Shit on the general public for the benefit of the few. every.damn.time. And in this case, it is about making sure they OBSTRUCT and NOTHING more. This is pure politics, pure posturing, and NOT doing their jobs which is to protect the masses from the few.

I say we put a vote on the Senate floor that removes 10% of all the female Reps. pay. Do it now, vote on it. Make these fuckers put their mouths where their money is. If it’s good enough for us “small people” *(thanks BP!) it should be good enough for those working for us, OUR employees.

Olympia Snow and Susan Collins should have to acctually work for a living… What about the burden unfair pay puts on women and children? Where is Karma when you need?

Would Mr. President be only “deeply disappointed” if the wage inequity only applied to black men and women. I do believe he would be outraged, that is if he is capable of outrage.

I know many do not quite understand the difference between Nature’s law and Natural rights, but still I go on with my crusade.

Nature’s law is ideas about the laws of Nature, Natural rights is ideas about law.

The Declaration of Independence mentions only Nature’s law. It does not mention Natural Rights. The Declaration was signed unanimously by all 13 colonies.

What all colonies agreed to was that Nature’s law was unalienable, which means government must be in harmony with Nature’s law, otherwise that government is not valid. The document gives several examples of Nature’s law, one of which is “life”.

How do you separate gender, race, and disablity from nature? the answer is you cannot. One does not choose how they will be born, one does not chose their gender, their race or whether to be born disabled or not. One does not choose their parents.

No government can be valid if it is not in harmony with nature. What this means is government cannot impose sanctions against nature. A government that supports unequal pay because someone is born a woman, is an invalid government because being a woman is right that is unalienable, meaning government cannot impose a penalty on someone being a woman, on someone of race or on someone disabled. A penalty such as unequal pay.

The Republicans are wrong to impose a penalty against nature. A person can choose to run a business or choose not to but gender, race and disablity is not a choice it is nature’s law and Republicans are wrong.

There you go women: you’re still second class citizens in the still sexist minds of the Republican old white males. But, hey, you still got Palin to speak for you . . . and that’s just about as bad.

Okay, lets say you pay one gender less than the other. Over a period of time that gender drives wages down for the other gender.

Example: One ethnicity works for lower wages than another ethnicity doing the same construction work. One ethnicity lowers the wages of another.

Have you thought this thru GOP? Really? I know you dont want women at the workplace and the low wage workaround is supposed to keep them home — but it dont work. =]

Don’t feel sorry for a single soul (especially women, minorities, gays …) for the destruction that will be heaped upon them by Conservatives. Have fun with that.

Isn’t that, in essence, what the Native peoples believe?

Why would he? He ain’t black.

I wouldn’t hold my breadth on that one if I were you.

“Maybe the guys can get together and vote in a bill that will make women’s pay only half of men’s”

Been done already. No vote was required. It was done the democratic way: only men agreed.

Don’t waste your typing speed on this dumb troll. Totally not worth it. Ignore it and it will go away.

The message here is we’re still second class citizens…Except when they need to trot us out for votes.

Sarah Palin? Surely yee jest. That’s worse than having Chicken George bu$h speak for us!
The women of this country need to organize to rid ourselves of those good old boys. There are more of us than there are of ‘them’! Granny Palin is too busy rigging votes for her elephantine daughter on that silly dancing with stars show.

Goose stepping backwards.

Goose stepping backwards.

GOP is gonna party like it’s 1899… -_-

What else was attached to the bill?

I hope the women who gave their democracy to the plutocrats are happy with this. And don’t worry – it won’t be just woman. According to their plan, everyone will be fighting to work for peanuts at the few remaining jobs when they finish outsourcing, automizing, etc. The gilded age will look like paradise.

Oh yeah? Well, my office experience goes back to the days of Mad Men and everyone in the office knew that without their secretaries, these superior guys couldn’t even order their lunch.

Thank you.

Reminds me of an old quote from the 60′s: A woman has to work twice as hard as a man to be thought of as half as good. Luckily this is not difficult”

Unfortunately, still true.

Knew that Johnny…..guess I should just be glad I am allowed to work at all eh? I want to know what happened to this place…where are my fellow hippies from the 60/70s…what in the Goddess’ name happened to all the free thinkers, lovers and dreamers….

A maxi pad, a Midol and a note which read, sit down and shut up.

It was sarcastically signed by Edward Bernays and John D. Rockefeller…

It was jest. The woman is the worst thing that’s happened to the women’s movement since Ann Coulter, or is it Michelle Bachmann . . . either way.

That’s right, now everbbody’ s nose gets rubbed in it, in the name of, what?

The Republican party would bring back child labor and 12 hour work days, 6 days a week. The party is nothing more than the stooge of corporate interests and should be outlawed.

Or Michelle Malkin?

Sorry, RS, it’s actually spelled “republican’t.” Fixed it for ya…

Are there no women republicans????

Senators Collins and Snowe are from Maine not Vermont. They still should be ashamed and all the women who voted for (expletive deleted) Republican Senators should be ashamed.

Thats probably why our government is so hell bent on destroying nature, their worst enemy.

When the days of “White man rule” were going, there were no Tbaggers. The time has come to give every human in the nation, and then the planet, an equal break. This means whitey has to share the scarce wealth, and suffer along with the rest. Obvioulsy, he dont like how it feels.
But white men are a minority on this planet, and the old guard will inevitably fail.

Katio, I agree. You were worth every penny, and a lot of those Mad Men got pink slips as levels of corporate hierarchy were collapsed and computers replaced secretaries.

The Mad Men were tossed because competitive forces dictated it wasn’t worth keeping them. But there was competition on the secretarial level, too. good secretaries got $300 a month in 1955 (but a nice new car cost $3000). You are right, they were indispensable. And most female college graduates found jobs only as secretaries, nurses, and teachers — so there was a lot of competition for those slots.

Now both spouses have to work to support a family, while in 1955 only one spouse had to. We can thank inflation for that (and I blame big government too). Constantly women are facing the crisis — pay off my college loans, keep working and postpone marriage and family? Or bite the bullet and live on one income and raise a family? It is not a pretty picture, to be sure, but one can’t blame employers for it.

Best

Chris in VA

Et al :-)

If stiffed Americans had any self-preservation, they would go on a birth strike as damage control and to protest this Nazi thuggery by the GOP now controlled by the Nazi-smuggling, pedophile-serving Vatican. The GOP/Vatican thugs believe that stealing women’s wages will force them back into incubating kitchen-duty — never mind that half of all marriages go bust and that 10-25% of the husbands that do stick around are under- or unemployed.

Who the F*** do they take themselves for,
and by what right.
These “small businesses” have a lot of explaining to do.

Snowe and Collins are over paid little women who only do what their menfolk tell them.

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How do you like that bitches?

I was about to write the same thing. I’m too slow today.

I have a theory about the news media in general. They always get at least some of every story wrong. I first discovered this when I was in grade school back in the 1960′s. At the time the lumber yard where my dad worked caught fire and burned to the ground. My dad was in the building when the fire started and saw how it happened. It started in a barrel of old oily rags and spread from there. The local news reported that it was an electrical fire. Ever since that time, every single news story that I have had first hand knowledge of – and there have been many over the years – has contained one of more large factual errors. Based on that sampling I can only assume that all stories that I don’t have first hand knowledge of will be incorrect in some manner – possibly a critical manner – as well.

Why is that so? In many cases it is too hard for reporters to find and interview the people who know the truth so they go to the wrong people or just make up details. In cases where a business or other organization is involved the first person a reporter will interview is the top guy on the scene – the boss, manager or business owner – not the peons who actually know the truth.

In the case of the lumber yard fire, that barrel of oily rags was a big safety hazard and should not have been there. In fact my dad used to complain about it and was ignored. The reporters didn’t ask the guys who were actually there and had the facts but asked the business owner instead and he wasn’t about to tell the truth. He lied to the reporter.

Plus there is often little or no accountability. If most of us make a big mistake at work we get in trouble – maybe get fired. If a reporter makes a mistake, they just move on to the next story. In fact, a reporter basing a story on what that boss told him can justify not reporting the truth. The reporter didn’t lie, he just reported what he was told by the people in charge. As a result we all learn fake facts in the news. And one story gets picked up by other news sources and reported so fake facts get spread around like a virus. Soon the actual truth no longer matters. The lumber yard fire was started by an electrical short become the truth.

Process everything you read or see on TV with that simple fact in mind. Not everything is as reported.

“but anybody looking for a job knows that an employer will hire you if you can produce income that equals or exceeds your pay”

It’s cute how you try to use math to support your argument, but ignore the math that shows how the public ends up being abused. If the employee is to lift 1000 pounds during the day, and that makes the employer a profit if they pay $10 an hour, it is abusive to the employee being paid $8 an hour doing the same work as the person next to them doing the exact same work and getting paid $10 an hour.. and the employer, using math here, is _encouraged_ to abuse the one since they get MORE PROFIT by abusing workers.

Given your partisan language, it is clear you support the few abusing the masses. Given your borked logic, it’s clear you’re a manipulator. Given the pair of facts, it’s clear you’re a right-winger and part of the world’s problems and incapable of coming up with solutions.

Of course they did. No surprise here.

“… Collins argued that the bill would place undue burden on small business, and “impose increased costs and restrictions on small businesses in an already difficult economic climate.” …”

gee, and no compassion for the actual women that are still 2nd class citizens getting 2nd class pay

If you think a sales force of 300 people “doing the same job” means that they are “doing the same work,” you are sorely mistaken. Some have in-depth knowledge of the product, others have in-depth knowledge of the customer universe, and some of them are beginners. Some are self-starters, others need constant motivation. Some are lazy, some firecrackers.

Trouble is, you never know for sure when you hire them where they are in the multidimensional spectrum.

Your name-calling is a poor substitute for argument, analysis, and experience. Have you ever hired anyone?

Then this implies small busibesses support paying their women employees less than their male counterparts. Boy, Repulsicans promote SUCH a conscious interest in “The People”, don’t they?. This is ONLY the beginning, Folks!!!

I wonder how it places undue burden on any business to pay women the same amount of money that they pay men for the same jobs?

These are your Republicans folks, you voted them in

The beginning of the “family values” party showing their support for their female constituents.
They voted for their true constituents big business.

(Republicans vote to retroactively unconstitutionally legalize banksters’ mortgage fraud)

From Washington’s Blog:

A friend on the Hill just wrote me the following:

HR 3808 Veto Upheld

HR 3808 went down.

Most Democrats voted to uphold Obama’s veto. Nearly all Republicans voted to override Obama’s veto. —> voted to FUCK you

I’m somewhat surprised at the roll call, I hadn’t expected the Republicans to so overtly take this position.

Congratulations to everyone who called their congress members to demand that this blatant attempt to legalize mortgage fraud be defeated.

Here’s the roll call on the vote:

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h2010-573

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2010/roll573.xml

Congress’ blatant attempt to retroactively legalize mortgage fraud.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2010/11/tomorrow-congress-will-try-by-secret.html

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2010/11/we-won-veto-on-retroactive-immunity-for.html

The liberal media was all over this!!! (not)

They tow the party line. Repukes just don’t give a shit about anything other than culture war issues and pleasing their corporate pimps.

Now that’s interesting. All Senators get paid the same salary. I don’t see the GOP pushing legislation to unequalize Senatorial pay. Perhaps someone should inform the Senators Snow and Collins that if they feel so strongly about not giving women full equality in the work-place, then Senators Snow and Collins should immediately ask the Senate to reduce their Senate pay; you know, to match the private sector.

You offer nothing but straw-man arguments and expect that to fly as reasonable discourse? And you use hyperbole in the face of a concrete argument I presented (moving measurable items, no guessing or subjective quantification needed).

“Are you being treated unfairly? Paid less than you’re worth? If so, find the bright employer who values competence over appearance and you’ll get a big raise. ”

more fallacy.. sure, it sounds good to say, and seems kind of reasonable.. but unemployment is at 20% or so.. the REALITY is, if you’re being “under paid”, your REALISTIC options are DAMN LIMITED.

That’s the biggest problem with right-wingers.. they are consistently reality challenged. That’s why it’s a waste of time trying to ever have a rational conversation with you.. you’re as incapable of that as a mouse is of building a super computer.

I think the good Senators from Maine should have there paychecks cut by 20% effective A/O, and start making coffee for the rest of the boys in there spare time. I hope the Tea people boil you in hot water.

The Republicans evidently didn’t understand how much more money they could have saved small businesses by only proposing a bill to bring male wages down to equal that of women.

All of you Teabaggin’ women out there…please take note of the Republicans’ stance of steppin’ on your wages.

“where are my fellow hippies from the 60/70s”

They’re all picketing townhall meetings, opposing universal healthcare and telling the government to keep their hands of their Medicare. He he…

But you, my dear…Oh, I got big plans…errr…I mean big windows for you to wash. And laundry. Stacks and stacks of it. And floors. Very dirty. Cooking. A ton of cooking. Are you barefoot by any chance? Pregnant? That would help you get the job.

Seriously. Sometimes, I sit back and take in the big picture and have a panic attack. We’re going backwards at lightening speed and it seems like no one around me is noticing.

I totally hear you and understand the feeling of falling into a deep and dark abyss.

The women who voted for these morons are morons

Sometimes, I tell myself that things have to get worse, much, much worse before they get better. But I’m not sure I believe that.

OK women remember this next election.

Let us hope that the pendulum will soon swing the other way.

Hope? Oh, no, not that word. Look at where it got us in 2008.

Seriously, I dunno. My timetable is [ironically] 2012. There are much, much smarter and knowledgeable people than me that put it at 2020.

I as a woman agree that this bill should have died. I will remember an overbearing Congress trying to pass a bill to force small businesses into certain death. If you have never run a business you would not understand why this bill and every damn wage bill done by Congress should be killed. The Lilly Ledbetter act was passed and that is enough. They keep trying to start crap by pushing unnecessary laws.

no kidding, its no surprise liberals have no idea how a business is run

this bill would HURT women by making employers afraid to hire them.

actually business would lose the male talent, women need to ask for raises more often or employers will gladly use their labor at low cost.

lol. let’s lower wages in a recession. you can’t fuckin be serious…

the senate is not a business and should not interfere in actual business. Women need to market their labor more and ask for raises they think they deserve or else employers will gladly pay them less for the same amount of work.

government shouldn’t regulate business in such a fashion. You get paid the amount you think your labor is worth.

employers look for the most talented labor at the lowest cost, women need to market their labor more.

This is the old Democrat game of dividing the people… I have had the same job as men where I was paid more than they were because I was better at the job. But to have this equal pay crap passed is just like forcing Unions on to companies. Some people are not worth as much as others at the same job. They are just playing like their is blanket discrimination when maybe it is just production pay… you are not as productive you are not paid as much – but this kind of bill encourages lazy people to get more than they are worth. Women have more personal calls at work and take more personal days off then men… that is just fact.

Why this “right wing” tirade? Life is not a unidmensional line on which everybody has to stake out a point. Does that epithet solve anything?

An employer is not a straw man, he or she is indispensable to the employee. The bipartisan train wreck in Washington has caused a lot of employers to trim their workforce, yes – and many of them are letting go those marginal employees whom they hired during the boom years — as one employer said — then — “I’ll hire any warm body who can pass a drug test.” Now, sharp-eyed employers (usually those who are spending their own money) are finding that it’s a buyer’s market: if they need employees, they can find superbly qualified people to fill the vacancy.

But the glory days are over. For employers who are spending their own money to hire people (that is, not the government’s money), every hire is a crucial decision and a big financial risk. That’s the real lay of the land out here, no straw men need apply. For small companies, it’s dog eat dog out there — a very competitive and, for the moment, shrinking marketplace.

**I guess you got shorted on the “gets sarcasm” gene.

employers are just trying to get the best deal they can. If women think they should get paid more they need to leave and if their labor was valuable business would pay them to stay.

white people are the second largest majority on this planet

There was a bulletin a few minutes ago that the Republicans also just voted down unemployment benefits too. I guess as the day wears on, the news if true will go ballistic. They also do not want to ratify the start treaty with Russia. It was in place under Clinton and they were destroying their stock pile of weapons. When Bush got in, he dumped the agreement.

The GOP want to keep people angry enough not to vote for Obama next time. They count on short memory’s to make it happen. No success will be allowed.

but they will proudly display their votes for white male corporations

You are a big liar – that bill is not for mortgage fraud… the bill was to recognize a notaries stamping as legitimate. The Democrats had wanted notaries not to be recognized by Federal Courts. This has nothing to do with Mortgage fraud and you are a total fraud for spreading this lie!!!! This is the bill the President Vetoed that you are talking about… so any contracts or statements notarized wouldn’t mean anything in Federal or State courts – that is just stupid why the hell have a notary. No the President was wrong to veto this bill – by doing so he makes most contracts not worth crap. http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-3808

why you go fist yourself, dear

Here is the entire bill YOU MORON – there is nothing in there about mortgages. Try reading the bill before you make up crap about it.
H.R.3808

One Hundred Eleventh Congress

of the

United States of America

AT THE SECOND SESSION

Begun and held at the City of Washington on Tuesday,

the fifth day of January, two thousand and ten

An Act

To require any Federal or State court to recognize any notarization made by a notary public licensed by a State other than the State where the court is located when such notarization occurs in or affects interstate commerce.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the ‘Interstate Recognition of Notarizations Act of 2010’.

SEC. 2. RECOGNITION OF NOTARIZATIONS IN FEDERAL COURTS.

Each Federal court shall recognize any lawful notarization made by a notary public licensed or commissioned under the laws of a State other than the State where the Federal court is located if–

(1) such notarization occurs in or affects interstate commerce; and

(2)(A) a seal of office, as symbol of the notary public’s authority, is used in the notarization; or

(B) in the case of an electronic record, the seal information is securely attached to, or logically associated with, the electronic record so as to render the record tamper-resistant.

SEC. 3. RECOGNITION OF NOTARIZATIONS IN STATE COURTS.

Each court that operates under the jurisdiction of a State shall recognize any lawful notarization made by a notary public licensed or commissioned under the laws of a State other than the State where the court is located if–

(1) such notarization occurs in or affects interstate commerce; and

(2)(A) a seal of office, as symbol of the notary public’s authority, is used in the notarization; or

(B) in the case of an electronic record, the seal information is securely attached to, or logically associated with, the electronic record so as to render the record tamper-resistant.

SEC. 4. DEFINITIONS.

In this Act:

(1) ELECTRONIC RECORD- The term ‘electronic record’ has the meaning given that term in section 106 of the Electronic Signatures in Global and National Commerce Act (15 U.S.C. 7006).

(2) LOGICALLY ASSOCIATED WITH- Seal information is ‘logically associated with’ an electronic record if the seal information is securely bound to the electronic record in such a manner as to make it impracticable to falsify or alter, without detection, either the record or the seal information.

Speaker of the House of Representatives.

Vice President of the United States and

President of the Senate.

(_____________________________o__________________________)

What a marvel Republicans are. Just look at the comments here from women cheer leading for these creeps to slap them some more. Never underestimate the power of fear, greed and long time oppression to make some humans prime for manipulation OR the skill of demagogues to manipulate such people to their own greed purposes.

So no legitimate response – so you have to tell me to fist myself – your ignorance has no bounds… I am not wrong that women take more personal time off or that they have more personal calls. If they are less productive they deserve less pay. But they don’t mention where women are paid more than men… The funny thing is that McCain paid the women working for his campaign in 2008 more or equal to the pay of the men working for his campaign – but Obama paid his female workers substantially less then his male workers… it is the do as I say not as I do model of Democrats. This is actually true in the Congressional offices the Democrats in Congress pay their women office workers less then their Republican counter parts.

And go where? Somewhere else to be underpaid there too? Equal pay for equal work. What is so complicated about that?

Good because Russia never ever destroyed their weapons but have taken the ones that are too old and sold their components to Iran… so the treaty isn’t worth crap… Why don’t you explain that the Republicans voted against the unemployment benefits because they are unpaid for (as Usual the Democrats pass a bill to pay for what you spend and ignore it) – they requested that the money come out of the over 400 billion in the Stimulus budget that hasn’t been spent but that can’t be touched – why because they are giving it to their friends and can’t really use it on the people.

Anxiously awaiting your evidence of more personal time or personal calls by women, or your proof regarding McCain and Obama’s payment of their campaign staffs. Or your proof of Congressional Democrats paying female office workers less than their Republican counterparts.

I suspect I’ll be waiting a while.

As your article says it depends how you stretch the definition of white. By some definitions we are only 15%.

Employers would be afraid to hire a woman because they might be required to pay her the same as they’d pay an equally qualified man for the same job? That’s some brilliant circular logic there. So, instead of having to shell out higher salary to a woman, they’ll just shell out higher salary to a man. That makes perfect sense.

Here is their congressional staff report where you can see McCain paid women better than Obama did as Senators.
On average, women working in Obama’s Senate office were paid at least $6,000 below the average man working for the Illinois senator. That’s according to data calculated from the Report of the Secretary of the Senate, which covered the six-month period ending Sept. 30, 2007. Of the five people in Obama’s Senate office who were paid $100,000 or more on an annual basis, only one — Obama’s administrative manager — was a woman.

The average pay for the 33 men on Obama’s staff (who earned more than $23,000, the lowest annual salary paid for non-intern employees) was $59,207. The average pay for the 31 women on Obama’s staff who earned more than $23,000 per year was $48,729.91. (The average pay for all 36 male employees on Obama’s staff was $55,962; and the average pay for all 31 female employees was $48,729. The report indicated that Obama had only one paid intern during the period, who was a male.)

McCain, an Arizona senator, employed a total of 69 people during the reporting period ending in the fall of 2007, but 23 of them were interns. Of his non-intern employees, 30 were women and 16 were men. After excluding interns, the average pay for the 30 women on McCain’s staff was $59,104.51. The 16 non-intern males in McCain’s office, by comparison, were paid an average of $56,628.83.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/225659/how-team-obama-pays-women/deroy-murdock#

Women take more time off than men…
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21547885/
The good news: Workers are calling in sick less often than they did just a decade ago.

The bad news: Women are still absent nearly twice as often as their male counterparts in the workplace.

It’s been a perpetual problem: Women tend to call in sick more often than men. But the why — even though you may think you know the answer — isn’t that clear cut, nor should it be.

The obvious answer from human resource experts, employers, employees and even us in the media is always that “working moms have most of the responsibilities at home,” and that translates into female employees having to take sick days to tend to sick kids.

Indeed, new Labor Department data shared with msnbc.com seem to support this to a degree.

“Both married and unmarried women with children report a higher rate of absences than those without children,” says Terence McMenamin with the department’s Bureau of Labor Statistics. Among single dads, the absentee rate is also higher than the rate for men without children.

What’s interesting, McMenamin points out, is that married men with kids actually report a lower rate of absences than men without children. It was so surprising to this labor data expert that he checked back to 2000 and found the trend is consistent for the past six years.
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Before you pat yourself on the back, having guessed that child rearing is what has many women calling in sick, McMenamin surmises there must be many other factors contributing to the high rate among women.

“Even among people who have no children at home,” he adds, “the reported absence rate is higher among women than among men.”

Making assumptions on why women call in sick can be detrimental to the advancement of women in the workplace, says Eric Patton, an assistant professor of management at Saint Joseph’s University in Philadelphia.

As part of his research on how workplace absence is perceived, Patton studied a century’s worth of New York Times articles that dealt with the issue. He found 3,000 articles on the topic.

“Whenever it was an article about women’s absenteeism it was about gender. If it was about men and absenteeism, gender was not brought up,” he says.

That focus on gender, he adds, has created a situation where co-workers and managers expect women to be absent more often, and that, in turn, can creates an air of unreliability around female employees.

Patton and his co-author Gary Johns found that elevated absentee rates for women could not be fully explained by health, family or job issues.”

Instead the researcher postulated that social expectations have created an “absence culture” for women that may be a factor.

“This absence culture for women may partially legitimize absenteeism for this group and attenuate perceptions of deviance surrounding women’s absence,” the researchers said. “At the same time, such an absence culture, regardless of whether it leads to actual higher absenteeism for particular women, may also be harmful to women in other ways.”

Indeed, Lauren, a Cleveland mother of two teenage daughters, finds she can never call in sick because she’s worried about how it will be perceived at the equipment company she works for.

“Even when my daughters are sick, even when I’m sick, even when I have a myriad of pressing problems, even when I have the cable guy coming to the house or the chimney sweeper or the plumber, even when my mother is sick and needs me, even when my father-in-law is in the hospital, I don’t call in sick,” she says.

But she believes her male colleagues get a pass. “I must work much harder at my job than my male counterparts and continually prove my loyalty and commitment to my job precisely because I am a woman and mother,” she stresses. “If I were a man, believe me, I would have a lot more latitude where my personal life vs. job is concerned.”
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There may be something to her perceptions, says Christopher Flett, author of “What Men Don’t Tell Women About Business.”

“It’s horrible to say, but men in the office will say she doesn’t take her career seriously when a woman takes time off for family reasons,” he explains. “They’ll think: ‘We can’t depend on her. If Billy breaks his arm she won’t show up for the presentation.’”

Flett acknowledges that women carry most of the responsibilities at home, whether caring for ill children or aging parents. But he believes women can be their own worst enemies in the workplace because they feel the need to give managers too much information. “Women will often make excuses for why they’re not coming to work, which opens them up to the alpha males that keep them out of the corner office.”

He suggested that women should keep their personal lives to themselves. “If a woman needs a sick day, take one without telling people your kid is ill, or you need to take care of your sister. It’s no one’s business why you’re taking the day off,” he adds.

Of course, women should take advantage of family-friendly policies offered by many employers. Experts believe that may be one reason the absentee rate is falling among men and women.

According to BLS numbers, the overall absenteeism rate dropped to 3.2 percent in 2006, compared with 4.2 percent in 1994. Among men the rate dropped to 2.4 percent from 3.1 percent in that period, while for women it declined to 4.3 percent from 5.7 percent.
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Men fuckup more and their ego’s cost companies more than woman’s pay equity will ever cost them

Two votes made the difference. How inane! Women need to get paid the same wage for the jobs that men do. In this day and age, when there are millions of single moms out in the work force, we need to be able to get paid the same as men. Well, there you go, the party of “no” is at it again. Of course, when confronted with that saying they are the “party of no” they get insulted. Well, change your course of action and help our women survive in an exceedingly expensive world. Women still have to pay rent, gas, insurance, clothing and food, just like men, so we will not vote for the GOP party next time. This is just the beginning of all the “no’s” we will be forced to endure because the party of the rich are in control.

Is that you, Phyllis?

Maybe you are a single person, with no children. You didn’t say. However, why should women be paid less for the same job? There is no reason not to get paid the same. It is corporations that are pushing for this, so they can have even more profits as a result. They don’t care. Did you ever consider why some women don’t push themselves? It’s because they get paid less. Why should women slave over the same job and get paid less?

Is that you, Ann?

Is that you, Ann?

Does anyone out there have the wherewithall to implement a petition drive to force ALL congressional representatives to take a fifty percent pay cut and make them purchase their own healthcare for themselves and their dependents.Who would I contact regarding this matter?

Well, if men were really men, they would stand up for their female co-workers and express their outrage that women are paid less. Until then, it is a double standard. Women are tired of double standards.

lol … maybe she will show us her dick

As for personal calls are you kidding me have you ever worked or been management? All of the employees that I ever had to fire for excessive use of the work phone for personal calls were all women. I never had to fire a man for that reason – I had to fire a man for sleeping, screwing up too many times, or excessive tardiness but never for personal calls.

All the female voters who voted for these nuts should be proud now they are denied. Obama fought for woman’s equal pay from the first day he took office but it seems woman don’t like it. Next the male Law Makers will vote to deny females from holding Federal elected positions. Woman can’t say they had a chance but they decided they agree with male elected Law Makers.

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Another nail in their coffin.

Pitchforks and Torches will be turned on the Teabaggers.

This is a sign of things to come. Kiss environmental protections, the possibility of equal pay, employment extension, social security and a whole host of social safety programs goodbye.

Actually Republithugs believe basing women’s wages on their looks — Uncle Tom denied me equal pay when he headed the EEOC because my anti-choice parental abuse-scarred face and flat chest offended his playboy sensibilities. I would have joined Anita Hill but I was slaving at three low wage freelance jobs to fund plastic surgery to correct my insult-magnet face and flat chest.

The the US Chamber of Commerce at work: Businesses in America can’t make a profit unless they can screw their female employees. They are willing to do it shamelessly in public.

Kathleen Dawn Enstrom, SHAME ON YOU, LIAR, LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE! The purpose of this bill was to legitimize AFTER THE FACT, IMPROPERLY AND ILLEGALLY “NOTARIZED” bank foreclosure documents! You must be a Bank of America shill!

Ms. Know-It-All, a better analysis would include PICTURES of McCain’s female staffers — he’s notoriously looksist! Just google McCain’s Fiji Island vacation to get a clue. I myself was introduced to him by Tommy the Matchmaker at the SINGLES Yacht Club in Bethesda in the late 1990s.

Maw Griz says this has something to do with feminzms.

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Doggie …

Raw Story is serving up the red meat today ~ RAW !

BITCH, as a disfigured-by-anti-abortion-Catholic-terrorist Munchausen by Proxy parents survivor of looksist job discrimination, I WORK WHEN I’M SICK AND USE VACATION TIME FOR SICK LEAVE PLASTIC SURGERY MARATHONS. Employers tolerate my looks and my presence BECAUSE I OFTEN WORK 30-SOME HOUR DAYS TO MEET THEIR DEADLINES BECAUSE THEIR LAZY MALE EMPLOYEES CALLED IN SICK FOR DRINKING BINGES OR WERE SURFING INTERNET PORN ALL DAY WHILE I SKIPPED LUNCH, DINNER AND SLEEP DOING THEIR WORK. Get over yourself, you Nazi bitch!

At my current job, I have accumulated approximately 300 hours of unused sick leave and my former FEMALE boss left the company with 500 hours of UNUSED SICK LEAVE. A female colleague has a similar sick leave record. Now apologize, bitch!

I make ZERO personal calls during the work day, while my male colleagues email and chat all day with their friends. Why do you hate women so much? Are you one of McCain’s MISTRESSES??

I’m probably older than you, and most of my female coworkers worked harder and more accurately than our lazy, conceited, sexually harassing male coworkers. What planet are you on, BITCH??!!

look – i have said that after these neanderthals stop hating the gays, Muslims, unemployed, science, immigrants, and in general non white or non Christian they will go after the Jews and then the women.

i was wrong – looks like the women moved up on the abuse pole.

and all of the submissive women in this country voted for these retards.

Hey everyone, this is probably ginned-up Ginni Thomas trying to fill up her free time while Clarence Thomas visits REAL women hookers paid for by the Bush crime family. Ginni (“Kathleen”) hopes liberals will forget THAT THEY ALREADY PAID INTO UNEMPLOYMENT BUT THE RETHUGS STOLE THEIR PAYMENTS TO FUND THEIR KILL-THE-MUSLIM-”HERETICS”-OIL-THIEVERY “WARS”.

Do you robots even know the contents of the bill?

Does that mean the Republicans will be funding their proposed trillion dollar tax cut for the rich?

Everyone, for what it’s worth, equal pay-basher, woman-hating Kathleen Dawn Enstrom probably is the same “woman” working for Point.360 and/or IVC in Burbank, CA — a digital media company. I know Ms. Enstrom’s employers must be delighted that she EAGERLY AGREES THAT SHE DESERVES $10,000 LESS THAN HER MALE COLLEAGUES. Everyone please call 818-396-P360 (818-396-7360) and demand a $10,0000 pay reduction for self-hating BITCH Kathleen Dawn Enstrom! (I’LL BET ALL OF HER CO-WORKERS HATE HER!) Please specify that she must be the same woman slamming equal pay on Raw Story.

There’s several reasons that the bottom 90 percent have not had a single year when their share of income increased since 1980. The inequality in pay between men and women is one of the reasons. And the Republicans just voted to make sure that trend does not change.

This is really double duty for Republicans–it kills two birds with one stone. As long as women’s pay is less, businesses are incentivized to hire women instead of men who they would have to pay more. So not only does this screw the women who voted Republican but it also means that the males who voted for Republicans are more likely to see a woman taking their old job and they are more likely to see a woman get hired at a new job.

And yet all these people keep voting to screw themselves again and again and again!

That’s crap. If businesses are worried, how about reducing men’s pay to that of women’s?

Being a business does not give you a blank slate to treat your workers like mindless cogs. Employees are human beings and should not be considered “resources” to be used, abused, devaluated, then dumped when you’ve sucked all the life out of them.

If that were true, then why is networking so important? We see businesses hiring friends and family members and people they owe favors to without considering who’s best for the job. Look at the management and executives. A CEO does a horrible job but he’s kept while employees get laid off. Meanwhile someone else is giving a bonus for reducing costs.

Oh jeez.. these F-ing putzes… Why do they diddle around with this stuff?

Jump right to eliminating minimum wage and firing anyone who doesn’t lick the boss’s ass. Re-institute debtor’s prison and then add the death penalty for anyone in debt more than a year.

You’ll quickly get back to the white majority aristocracy you’re obviously DYING for…

And this is your country on Republicanism.

2 many chix on the newz.

See my comments to the egregious Ms. Enstrom.

employers want the best deal they can get, if your labor is valuable to the business you can charge extra for it. its not that complicated.

businesses who hire the most talented people they can get will out perform the nepotist.

The pundits have shown Polls from the Mid-Term stating that women voted more for rethuglicans than demorats. Ahh I love the smell of retards in the morning! Retardation has no gender gaps at all Politically! As the women who would allow a “man” (Not being a Doctor) to be able to decide for them what to do about THEIR BODIES! Insane! Kudos to the Stockholm Syndrome / Stepford Wives! Pitiful

then go to a place that values talented labor, that business should out perform Uncle Tom

“That’s crap. If businesses are worried, how about reducing men’s pay to that of women’s?”

because then men would leave that business and that business can’t afford that.

bosses always try to get the best deal they can, if you are willing to work for less they will be happy to oblige.

No, NAZI Bitch, it’s not a fact! — most of the women I have worked with did twice the work, twice more accurately, in half the time, with zero sick leave, no lunch breaks, AND NO PERSONAL CALLS THAN MY LAZY, SELF-IMPORTANT MALE COLLEAGUES! You must be sleeping with the boss, because he’s overlooking your spending company time slamming YOUR FEMALE CO-WORKERS WHO HAVE MORALS AND DO ALL OF YOUR WORK WHILE YOU DIDDLE THE BOSS!

are you saying only white people can survive in a world based on merit?

this thread proves liberals have no idea how a free market works

this thread proves liberals have no idea how a free market works

this thread proves liberals have no idea how a free market works

Kathleen hasn’t responded to my comments because she’s busy HAVING SEX WITH HER BOSSES TO KEEP HER HIGHER PAY.

it doesn’t pay to be weak

you mean no more nanny state!?!?! then where will I get my free money???

gee a liberal making personal attacks instead of an argument, never saw that one coming.

you have no idea how a free market works

you site two examples against a scientific study, you’re not too bright are you?

become a politician or start working for a bank or on wall street….they get most of the free money…

And you’re point is?……

yes they do and that is just as wrong

I was just correcting the assertion that white people are a minority

NAZIS like you leave out personal testimonials that refute your bias. You’re definitely not too bright, and rely on bigotry to get ahead. Now go back to your Nazi Goth cave, HOME SKOOLER!

All Rethugs like Vincent do is make personal attacks — I definitely saw that coming! Rethugs dismiss all facts and arguments as “personal attacks” anyway.

You should sell 10 pints of your blood all at once right now.

We understand perfectly that corporations expect FREE LABOR (SLAVES!). Do YOU?? Are you willing to work for free, dumb ass?

Let’s assume that you are correct women really are much less productive than men in the same jobs. Could you please explain why there are currently more women employed in America than men! Would that be because companies want less productive workers or do you think it might have something to do with the pay differential? If you could hire one of two workers equally qualified but you would have to pay one of them 20-25 percent more which one would you hire? Evidently, since more women are currently employed than men, companies have decided to go with the lower labor costs.

Love you, Reggie! You make more sense than Vincent!

How could anyone be against equal pay for equal work?

We know exactly how it works, that is why wages for the bottom 90 percent have fallen every year since 1980, the last year they increased. At that point the bottom 90 percent obtained 65 percent of the total income paid. Last year, the bottom 90 percent obtained less than 51 percent of the total wages paid.

The great Austrian School economist F. A. Hayek noted in 1944 in his popular treatise on freedom and liberty “The Road To Serfdom” that the United States was so much better than the Soviet Union where totalitarians had redistributed the wealth and the top 11-12 percent obtained nearly 50 percent of all income paid. While in the United States the top 10 percent made a little less than 35 percent. He claimed that this showed that the United States was better than the totalitarian government in the Soviet Union. I think he would be surprised to see how his free market has worked out for the richest 10 percent in American. That is how a free market works. Without government supervision to give unions more power to bargain for wages, the free market drives income to the top while taking it from the bottom.

Under the current free market economy in America the richest 74 wage earners last year made more than the bottom 19 million workers. More importantly the average wage for those in this top group increased from $91.2 million in 2008 to an astonishing $518.8 million in 2009. That’s nearly $10 million in weekly pay!

That’s how a free market really works. Meanwhile the median wage continues to fall. This year it fell by about $250.

“Collins argued that the bill would place undue burden on small business, and “impose increased costs and restrictions on small businesses in an already difficult economic climate.”

This is such a bogus argument. Anyone who knows anything about running a business knows that any increase in the cost of doing business (overhead costs) is always passed on to the customer; hence, prices go up to cover overhead–and then what’s left over after overhead costs are paid is considered ‘profit.’ Those businesses that fail to pass on increases in the cost of running their business to customers generally ends up out of business.

The “free” market? That’s a laugh. Free marketers take billions and billions from us in tax credits and tax deductions and then claim they made it all on their own. Can’t even admit how dependent they are on government largesse. Like toddlers screaming they don’t NEED their parents’ help…

“Those senators included Sens. Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins, both Republicans from Maine. The bill would have expanded enforcement of equal pay laws.

Collins argued that the bill would place undue burden on small business, and “impose increased costs and restrictions on small businesses in an already difficult economic climate.”

My 1st thought is: yo hypocrites, do you make as much as YOUR male counterparts in the Senate? So why can’t other women in other industries make the same as men. What ? What’s that? ohhhhhh the Chamber of Commerce bought you 2 off. Gotcha.
And of course Harry Reid forgot the word reconciliation, the great spineless wonder. Why did we loose the election?

So with all this evidence about how terrible female employees are why are there currently more women employed than men in America?

She certainly produced the facts…..

Unfortunately, it seems people vote their class, not their gender. If a woman has a company—or is married to an employer—typically she puts her own narrow economic interest above that of women generally. She will see things from the employer’s point of view, even if that employer is oppressing women and the oppression of female workers is the price she is willing to pay to maintain her own comfort level. Sucks, doesn’t it?

Methinks you pulled those “facts” out of your ample a*s.

“I had to fire a man for sleeping, screwing up too many times, or excessive tardiness but never for personal calls.”

Soooooo……THOSE factors don’t cut into profits? Seems to me those offenses are a good deal more egregious tan taking “personal calls.” When people work full time, they are in the office constantly. They can’t be expected to sacrifice their lives for the job. It’s enough that they’re there all day! Are you saying that to be a good employee one cannot have any friends, or any social life whatsoever?

Oh, please—are you actually quoting “the NATIONAL REVIEW” on here??? Like that is any kind of a reliable source. Pure rightwing propaganda. Good luck with that.!

Have you considered the fact that by and large, the Obama staffers were a lot YOUNGER and less experienced than the staff working for McCain? This would go a long way towards explaining the pay differential between the Obama and McCain staffers.

(Of course, this is very often the rationale that right wingers use for paying women less all the time, so you ought to find it palatable, LOL)

Worldwide, you are definitely a minority.

Its you wingnuts who are the Nazis, not the left. Stop trying to confuse people. Hitler only called Nazism “National Socialism” to confuse workers. In truth, the Gestapo incarcerated union leaders in concentration camps and supported the most hideous oppressions against workers. Enough of this b.s. revisionism of trying to re-cast Hitler as a leftie to score political points. SHAME on you.

Another part of this ploy is to keep the different segments of the labor force (men, women, blacks, whites, Latinos, straights, gays, parents, non-parents, etc) set against each other so that all the power remains in the hands of employers. Divide and conquer.

You failed to answer the question.

Let me round up a few million white people, take them from any life they had and enslave them for a few hundred years. After that I will free them but subjugate them to Jim Crow for another 100 years or so. Then I will make sure all the banks redline their neighborhoods they are huddled in to make sure they can’t buy property or start any businesses. When I’m done I will release them all to compete in your “free market capitalist system” against me who has had the unencumbered opportunity to get rich for generations. Let’s see how the white people you speak of would do then.

People like you (who don’t represent most good white people) always ignore the institutionalized biases and inequities that have existed in this country for over 400 years. Black slaves built this country for free, Chinese built the railroads for pennies, Native American iron workers built the skyscrapers all while slave masters and those unencumbered by bigotry reaped all the benefits.

Women (white or otherwise) have never had equal pay even though they work just as hard. This vote is an outrage by the Republicans and everyone needs to know that these republicans in office do not advocate for you. Republicans only work for monied interest – Period.

For all the people who left comments on this post that make sense and support hard working women -I salute you.

… with no lube

Zombies………….

WTF is wrong with these people? The old white rich people!
These are serious times and we need serious leaders.

I don’t think most women want to earn as much as men. If they did, they’d no longer be able to marry up.

But of course the women in congress get equal pay.

And yet Mrkn women, as ill educated and ignorant as Mrkn men, will often vote for Republicans. Well, they get what they deserve, as mrkn voters always do.

Kathleen, you fired the women because they turned you in for using all your work time posting hate comments on your hateful facebook page. The ladies didn’t know you’re sleeping with the bosses.

I think, most telling of all, is that judging by the graph, neither men’s nor women’s earnings have changed much since right before 1980.

How many “cost of living” raises has congress voted themselves in the time since then?

you better look that one up dumbass

Deutsche =/= Democratic

You have the same inability to engage in polite discourse as Glen Beck. Point being that there were many Jews that voted for someone who was inimical to their existence just as women are voting for legislators who are inimical to theirs.

[...] Republicans vote unanimously against equal pay for women bill [...]

idiots like you use one example as proof when they are not the norm. scientific studies show you what the truth is but you can’t handle that.

I’m not a republican or conservative. As for dismissing facts, psychiatrist would call your comments projection.

or I could develop marketable skills and generate my own wealth.

gee there’s an Idea!

no I don’t work expect to work for free that’s why I don’t.

how come black people were taken from their country so easily?

It never pays to be weak or stupid

very good

now all we need to do is stop using products that are made in communist china that use depressed wages.

I agree, businesses shouldn’t be getting welfare either.

check out the link and see for yourself

women need to market their labor, employers will always go for the best deal

They were taken because the Europeans had weapons. They were taken because Europeans baragained with these weapons and encouraged other African kingdoms to overtake their smaller neighbors and sell them into slavery. But I love how you call Africans “stupid” and “weak” because they were kidnapped from their country and forced into slavery against their will and still struggle with the repercussions.

Of course they did. It’s all about “taking THEIR county back.” This means back from the women who took the pill, put on shoes, and stepped out of the kitchen and back from the coloreds who had the audacity to believe themselves equals.

not about weakness – when they get thru with everyone on the abuse pole they will go after each other.

Then they can always go get a sh***y job at Burger King.

No comment.

I own a small business but the chamber of commerce does not speak for me.

If you enjoy voting against your own best interests… vote Republican (or corporate shill Democrats).

It must be that women just can not produce because statistically they make 78% of a man’s salary. Do Republican women really vote Republican?

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0193820.html

yep the old white haired men want “their” country back alright. Lets go back in time PEOPLE YOOHOO aint life great!!!

Free market????? sure buddy…see MYMY comments , took the words right outta my mouth

you know that this is our own fault right? Americans wanted cheaper things and thats what we got. No more manufacturing jobs that ran the country, all gone overseas, because WE wanted cheaper things. So now your bitching about it? If we stop buying and using things from china, india, korea, etc, we wouldnt have anything, so that doesnt make much sense to me. Its our own damn fault and KARMAs a bitch

[...] National Public Radio because of their “liberal” (read “Nazi”) views. Then, unanimously vote down the Equal Pay for Women Act. Then, cancel everyone’s jobless benefits. And finally, refuse to give tax cuts to the middle [...]

I think it’s a bit misleading to say the “GOP” unanimously voted against this bill. In reality corporate America voted against this bill through their puppets in the GOP. I’m not trying to be facetious. If you replaced every member of the GOP with a corporate CEO their views on issues like this would be virtually identical. There is no difference between the two. The GOP IS corporate America.

Bingo!

How come the GOP who loves to use “protecting small business” as a mantra to shoot down all types of legislation, fought against Obama’s attempts to help small businesses? The question is rhetorical, no need to answer.

Still I have a better idea, bring down what they pay men and raise what they pay women by the same amount. This won’t cost anyone anymore than they’re already shelling out now and kills two birds with one stone. Sure, like THAT will ever happen.

A better question would be: what have corporate profits looked like since then?

And this is just the beginning! The Party of NO is just getting started.

SURPRISE!
Teabaggars want more investigations and an impeachment.
Anyone for a government shut down?
check in offen, they have more (less) coming.

So now fair pay for a good days work is hurtful to business. Let’s bring back slavery and child labor – that must be good for business.

You have repeatedly shown that you are the one who doesn’t know how capitalism works. Capitalism and the capitalists themselves are driven by the quest for higher and higher profits. And it has nothing to do with producing products with lower prices, it has to do with creating products that one can sell for a far greater profit while at the same time selling it fort the same price or even more. Here’s how capitalism really works. Let’s take the example of what was once an all-American company. Levi-Strauss. When I was growing up my first pair of Levi’s 501 jeans cost me $4.95 plus 3 percent sales tax. That’s right think about that for a moment. Those Levi’s were made in San Francisco and cost me $4.95. Of course wages were lower, I think I was making about $.90 (cents) an hour or something. It was less than a dollar. Now those same (this is incorrect today’s Levis aren’t the same) Levi 501s cost me about $40 or more depending on where and when I buy them. And they are no longer made in San Francisco, they are made in Korea or Mexico or San Salvador–the last pair were made in Haiti. I am paying nearly 10 times as much for the same product but the product is probably being made for less than it was when I paid $4.95 for it and it certainly feels a lot cheaper to me. The cloth is far thinner and the wear is far less than it was when I was in high school. So tell me, how did my desire for a cheaper pair of Levi’s drive the company from San Francisco to Haiti?

When it comes to capitalism you have shown that we know a lot more than you do and your idiotic simplistic solutions show that you know absolutely nothing about how capitalism works. In fact the deterioration of wages beginning in 1981 which went hand-in-hand with the increasing off-shoring of American jobs and the subsequent or seeming fall in prices which I have shown didn’t really fall at all, and an increase in credit availability and credit card use as a substitute for the lower wages, don’t worry if you can’t earn it, you can always borrow it, might be just crazy confluence or there might be something more sinister at work–something like capitalism! Something you have repeatedly shown that you know little if anything about!

The information you posted concerned those workers who worked in their respective Senate staffs and Senate offices not those who worked on their campaigns. Or don’t you even read the content of your own posts! You still haven’t explained why if women are such terrible and non-productive workers that there are currently more women employed than men in America today!

More importantly why should we spend time in conversation with someone who can write this:

“Here is their congressional staff report where you can see McCain paid women better than Obama did as Senators.”

And four hours later write this:

“The funny thing is that McCain paid the women working for his campaign in 2008 more or equal to the pay of the men working for his campaign – but Obama paid his female workers substantially less then his male workers.”

Obviously you have no idea what you are saying from one hour to the next so again we come back to these questions, which you seem unable or unwilling to answer: Why are more women currently employed in America than men and why should we pay any attention to someone who can’t keep their story straight for even 4 short hours?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

There are wage reductions or freezes on wage increases from time to time but mostly businesses don’t waste their time with this sort of tom-foolery. It hurts morale, makes workers angry and hurts production. Instead of reducing someone’s pay and have them coming to work angry, businesses just lay the men off and hire women or those with less experience who will work for less.

You poor defenseless kitten! You really don’t have any idea how capitalism works do you? I guess our schools really aren’t teaching anything these days are they?

Do you actually believe this bullshit? There is almost no one in any company structure who cannot be replaced tomorrow! And if you doubt that for a minute you are hallucinating and you should probably see someone about it. Judging from you avatar you are hallucinating and probably would refuse to see anyone about it. But that is fine. We understand.

BTW: It must be nice to think that you are irreplaceable in the corporate structure–but unless your name is Steve Jobs–you probably aren’t!

You might be expecting too much! Gore Vidal didn’t call America, the United States of Amnesia for nothing!

This is the “entire bill”? I don’t know much about legislation but I seriously doubt that there was ever any bill in the history of Congress after 1890 that was this short! And I am entirely convinced that this bill is certainly longer than this. I have no proof, just a hunch. And if it is then this is the second time I have caught you mendaciously misrepresenting something in about 10 minutes! Not a good record, if you want to be taken seriously here at all!

Secondly, the bill does exactly what Big Dan, says it does. Just because the bill doesn’t mention the word mortgages doesn’t mean that it isn’t applicable to mortgages. It says basically that any mortgage or any other document (fraudulent or not) with a notary seal should be accepted at face value simply because it has a notary seal on it. As if the notary seal absolutely precludes any fraudulent intent. Since all contracts and certainly all mortgages are going to have a notary seal on them, that would make all mortgages with a notary seal automatically exempt from any fraud charges, and would make the banks and mortgage companies who issued those mortgages automatically exempt from prosecution because as the bill says in legalese here:

“To require any Federal or State court to recognize any notarization made by a notary public licensed by a State other than the State where the court is located when such notarization occurs in or affects interstate commerce.”

The mortgages were issued by banks in one jurisdiction and notarized in another, meaning that the notaries had no idea what they were authorizing. And the interstate commerce is the fact that these mortgages were move across state lines, a mortgage made in Alaska was sold to a bank in New York!

Evidently I was wrong this appears to be the entire bill. My mistake! See I can admit when I am wrong. Can you?

What part of “any lawful notarization made by a notary public”–this means all documents notarized out of state would be authorized. There is a long article on this at Firedog lake that generates more confusion here:

http://news.firedoglake.com/2010/10/07/does-hr3808-stop-foreclosure-fraud-in-its-tracks/

The author, David Dayen, also appears to be unable to see how this means or can be applied retroactively. But the word “any” means “all” and that means documents existing today with a notary seal on them, which applies to all documents no matter when they were stamped by the notary. And you don’t have to be a lawyer to understand that. In fact you don’t really need to be very smart either. I don’t know what they are paying you where you work but I get the impression from reading your posts that they are not paying you for your brains, because you are beginning to show that you don’t have any!

Um, your response makes no sense at all and frankly does not counter my argument. I never said the Senate was a business (although Congress is a lacky of business, especially republicons). I also think Congress should always interfere in actual business when actual business denies equal pay for equal work, which is as American as apple pie. You obviously do not live on Planet Earth. Your comment that “women need to market their labor more and ask for raises…..” shows a definite lack of logic and a dismaying denial of the realities working women must face.

Back to the founders….

Didn’t you hear? Republicans don’t like women.

“”where are my fellow hippies from the 60/70s”

They’re all picketing townhall meetings, opposing universal healthcare and telling the government to keep their hands of their Medicare. He he…”

BS, I know lots of old hippies and none of them are teabaggers.

Serves the damn women right…heard they voted for Republicans…by a fairly large majority…

What a shocker. Next you will tell me they voted to keep gay people in spiked boxes and that anyone caught using the metric system should be burned at the stake?

We are talking about people who are (or at least who pretend to be) completely convinced the vast fossil record is a complete fabrication, and a 2k year old fabrication is the truth.

Vast and virtually complete, with lots and lots of DNA to support it. Hundreds and hundreds of years of theory that has proven true time and time again, losing out to thousands of years of theory without a shred of evidence to back it up, that hasn’t eventually been proven fact by some asshole hundreds of years after the fact.

What about any of this is supposed to surprise me. Or inspire me for that matter.

I take comfort in the fact that the vast majority of people more educated than me are much stupider than I am. Then I remember they can all drive and have kids and buy guns and booze in the same store.

Hey dumbass, there is no such thing as the “second largest majority.” if you are not in the majority, you are not the majority–you are a minority. You should probably quit posting here before you embarrass yourself even further. You have not only shown that you don’t know squat about capitalism or how it works, but now you have shown that you don’t even have a clear conception of how language works. Where did you go to high school?

And don’t even tell me you went to college, because if you did they should be sued for malpractice or malfeasance and a full return of your tuition becuase you got robbed! You got nothing with your college degree!

Polite discourse?? What are you talking about? Why on earth did you lie about what NSDAP means in order to make some cheap shot at democracy? Do you actually know how many jews voted for the nazis in 1933? Do you? If they even existed in any significant numbers, do you really think they did so for the same reasons as women voting for republicans?

Come on.

let the jerks filibuster til they’re blue in the face, then pass it anyway. ERA was defeated by one state margin in the reagan years and it is a disgrace. recall my widowed mother in the late 60s and early 70s was working for hercules as a lab tech and all the lab workers were women because they paid them half what men got as company policy. and in 1972, she paid more in raw taxes than multi-millionaire nixon!

[...] More: Republicans vote unanimously against equal pay for women bill | Raw Story [...]

I’m very glad.

Headline of this article should read: Once Again, Republicans Vote Unanimously That Women Must Remain Second Class Citizens.

I don’t know where you work but in my life I have never been paid what I thought my labor is worth, I have always been paid what my boss thought my labor was worth. And when I saw how much he was charging others for it, I realized that he really had too quite different conceptions of what my labor was worth, one that was minuscule (what he told me it was worth) and another which for me was really eye-opening (what he charged his customers for my work). Hint: I was generally paid less than a third of what my bosses (always men by the way) were charging others for my service.

Hell, even hookers generally get to keep half of what they earn!

I bet you went to one of those schools where the professors let you grade yourself too didn’t you?

Last night Robert Reich said that last year, the top 1 percent obtained 25 percent of the income from all sources. The next nine percent got another 25 percent and the bottom 90 percent got to split the remaining 50 percent. How’s that for a redistribution of the wealth?

You should know poor fool, not even your hero Hayek believed in “merit”! In fact he thought that it was one of the main misconceptions which was used by many to confuse people such as yourself! And if you read his books instead of just mouthing what you have heard others say about him you would know that.

Hayek basically considered “merit” a worthless method of assessing pay!

GUNS and AMMO!

But this response is highly ironic coming from you.

You seem to be both weak and stupid and you claim to be getting paid for it!

At least your arguments are generally weak, and your responses are always stupid. Yet you claim that you are paid what you think you are worth not what your boss thinks you are worth.

So how have you done it? Cause if you worked for me you wouldn’t last a damn minute. And don’t think that whatever it is you think you know is something that no one else on the planet knows.

Because from what you have posted here it is clear that you don’t even know what you claim to know, let alone all the things that you obviously don’t know!

In other words, stop pretending that you are an adult and get back to your high school classes and try to learn something about life. Because you obviously don’t know squat! And you aren’t fooling anyone here although I bet you think you are!

There is actually a long list of things you aren’t!

and gay/lesbian citizens are 3rd class citizens…while Rich WHITE “christian” men remain on top.

No. I think the blood donor idea would be good for you but make sure it’s 10 pints.

#52: The last generation *did* go on a birth strike. Women entered the work force, which drove down the price of labor. This made the two-income household mandatory, so now the women who a generation or two ago would have been raising children are in the workforce. Since they aren’t having children, there won’t be enough workers in the future to support Social Security, which is failing from too many retirees and two few workers to support them.

Lots of unintended and unforseen consequences happen when you upset a social structure.

I can’t believe these horses’ asses can continue to govern they way they are…All of these bad legislative moves, votes, etc is going to come back and bite them on their backsides sooner than later…I’ve got three daughters and they sure as hell deserve equality in the workplace…

The only industrialized country that voted down the ERA amendment. ITs these evangelistic bible thumpers who push man is superior to women crap keeping women down. Words can not express how much I hate the Christian Taliban in this country. The only good republican is a dead republican. Believe me I live in red state USA and have a son with autism where I see the hate of the republicans.
WATCH THESE PATHETIC BLIND SHEEP SUPPORT SARAH PALIN NOW.

Free markets WTF like our government purchasing xray vans to spy on American citizens highway style! It all started in 2006 when our citizens were loosing there homes while the Bush administration was making big corporations bigger. Is that how free market works vincent441?

I cant believe any woman supporting Sarah Palin yet like you said retardation has no gender gaps.

No friend, this thread PROVES we were right about the GOP being for CEOs BANKS, WALL STREET and BILLIONAIRES and to HE** with the middle class, or what’s left of it and ESPECIALLY UPPITY FEMALES and “COLOREDS”. That’s the good old boy GOP club for you. Obviously YOU don’t know how the free market works. Right now that FREE MARKET is sending our jobs overseas faster than we can recover them. So who is it that doesn’t get it sweet cheeks?

Disappointing.

[...] Senate Republicans don’t care about equal pay, privileging small business over gender equality. The Paycheck Fairness Act, which would have expanded womens’ recourse against wage discrimination, died in the Senate today, under the oft-invoked guise of protecting small business. Even some previously pro-equal pay women turned their backs on the bill–Vermont conservatives Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins both registered “no” votes. Ironically, the bill failed by just two votes. [...]

http://blogs.forbes.com/docket/2010/07/21/paycheck-fairness-act-will-be-anything-but/

..wow.

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What I dont understand is how youre not even more popular than you are now. Youre just so intelligent. You know so much about this subject, made me think about it from so many different angles. Its like people arent interested unless it has something to do with Lady Gaga! Your stuffs great. Keep it up!

[...] week not a single Senate Republican voted for a bill ensuring equal pay for women. So we asked 1,000 Republicans why they’re against wage equality [...]

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You do not know anything – this bill was to protect actual notarization of contracts – if something was illegally or improperly notarized it can be made null and void in any federal court – we do not need a law to enforce law that already exists. This was to uphold proper acknowledgement of notarization across state lines. That the bill was vetoed means the opposite. By the way I have never slept with a Boss to get a head – I have worked darn hard my entire life 3 jobs at the age of 20, 110 hours a week – to support two teenagers I was left with to raise when my parent passed. I have never taken any aid or assistance. I do not believe in it and as an engineer I would easily put in 36 hour work days no questions asked. When I went to college I worked full time during the day and took classes at night and on the weekends and I never took out one loan for school or had grants to pay for it. I thrive working and have never watched the clock, I always feel great accomplishment by doing what is best for whatever company I work for – I hardly ever even took lunches or breaks when I am working and cannot stand personal calls on work time, as I want to get things done. In a pinch I would leave my office an work where ever needed. The people I have worked with both men and women have always been impressed with my work ethic and willingness to help anyone that asked for assistance or training doing their job or making their job more productive – I did it on my lunch, break or after or before my work hours. Fellow employees that lived in different timezones would call me in the middle of the night for assistance and I always took the call and assisted them. Even when I started out in the workforce at the age of 12, I was made supervisor within two weeks because of my work ethic and production level. The fact of the matter My mother who got me the job because she worked there ended up working for me. I am not afraid to put in 80 hour weeks and I am not afraid to ask for a raise either. I replaced 36 people and consolidated their work into one job and streamlined it – when I left that company to go to college they replaced me with 4 people to run the system and 3 programers to support it and they continued to contact me for several years to trouble shoot things over the phone or via email. I have a Government award for helping develop a financial plan system even before I went to college for engineering. Currently I am not in regular the workforce because I am taking care of a disabled relative full-time. In turn because I left the workforce voluntarily I do not collect any unemployment insurance and I am keeping my relative off of the burden of the State. As I believe it is the family’s responsibility to take care of family not the Governments job to take money from someone else to take care of my family. I currently am a part time consultant in finance, engineering, legislation, and contracts. I ask that you can contact any lawyer and have them read this legislation – it has nothing to do with Mortgages – it has everything to do with interstate business contracts.

You do not know anything – this bill was to protect actual notarization of contracts – if something was illegally or improperly notarized it can be made null and void in any federal court – we do not need a law to enforce law that already exists. This was to uphold proper acknowledgement of notarization across state lines. That the bill was vetoed means the opposite. By the way I have never slept with a Boss to get a head – I have worked darn hard my entire life 3 jobs at the age of 20, 110 hours a week – to support two teenagers I was left with to raise when my parent passed. I have never taken any aid or assistance. I do not believe in it and as an engineer I would easily put in 36 hour work days no questions asked. When I went to college I worked full time during the day and took classes at night and on the weekends and I never took out one loan for school or had grants to pay for it. I thrive working and have never watched the clock, I always feel great accomplishment by doing what is best for whatever company I work for – I hardly ever even took lunches or breaks when I am working and cannot stand personal calls on work time, as I want to get things done. In a pinch I would leave my office an work where ever needed. The people I have worked with both men and women have always been impressed with my work ethic and willingness to help anyone that asked for assistance or training doing their job or making their job more productive – I did it on my lunch, break or after or before my work hours. Fellow employees that lived in different timezones would call me in the middle of the night for assistance and I always took the call and assisted them. Even when I started out in the workforce at the age of 12, I was made supervisor within two weeks because of my work ethic and production level. The fact of the matter My mother who got me the job because she worked there ended up working for me. I am not afraid to put in 80 hour weeks and I am not afraid to ask for a raise either. I replaced 36 people and consolidated their work into one job and streamlined it – when I left that company to go to college they replaced me with 4 people to run the system and 3 programers to support it and they continued to contact me for several years to trouble shoot things over the phone or via email. I have a Government award for helping develop a financial plan system even before I went to college for engineering. Currently I am not in regular the workforce because I am taking care of a disabled relative full-time. In turn because I left the workforce voluntarily I do not collect any unemployment insurance and I am keeping my relative off of the burden of the State. As I believe it is the family’s responsibility to take care of family not the Governments job to take money from someone else to take care of my family. I currently am a part time consultant in finance, engineering, legislation, and contracts. I ask that you can contact any lawyer and have them read this legislation – it has nothing to do with Mortgages – it has everything to do with interstate business contracts.