THIS GUY IS AN ARROGANT FUCKING PIG!!! No further comment needed….

Our continuing journey into the heart of darkness, November 26, 2010, met another monster.

Once again, Krugman is correct. Obama doesn’t fire Simpson because Obama is in league with Simpson. Obama takes tolerance to a new level. He apparently thinks it’s okay for the GOP to hold a gun to his head. He knows that the GOP will “never” pull the trigger because he essentially agrees with them. For Obama, it’s all theater, even though it’s far from theater for the millions of people who will end up on the short end of the stick when SS and Medicare/Medicaid funds are slashed, when seniors and the disabled will be shopping once again for… pet food.

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I’d venture to say that the complaining seniors are ones who are totally or near totally dependent on Social Security and who believe these cuts would take place immediately.

So, instead of clarifying, this is being exploited for its use as generational division. Talk about
terrorism.

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I think most seniors are of the Broke Generation forced to reduce their standard of living after being ripped off by Wall Street and the bankers.

Alan Simpson deserves a baseball bat to the back of the head.

“…cutting Social Security benefits while reducing corporate taxes.”

And the idiot hasn’t got a clue why anyone would be upset. The Corporations had the wonderful Bush Jr tax cut under the bullshit that it would create jobs. Corportations made big bucks but no jobs were created, none, not a single job. The Con job is the only job Bush Jr ever did on the people.

Every American can see the money being taken out of their paycheck for Social Security, It’s right there in their face and yet this doesn’t stop the Republicans from lying over and over again calling Social Securtiy an entitlement. Word games is all the Republicans have to offer.

The Republicans borrowed the money from the children to pay for tax cuts and no jobs for these children in the future, Republicans borrowed the money from Social Secruity in the form of I.O.U’s to pay for the Corporate tax cuts it’s time we tax the hell out of the Corporations to pay back those I.O.U’s.

In England they are forcing austerity policies onto the people and person simialr to Simpson made this comment about the austerity policies, “It will do the little people some good”. He has since stepped down for making that remark. But not Simpson.

The People need to wake up and realize the Republicans is not about team work in this nation. The Republicans have only the middle finger for the nation. They are professional whores working only for the Corporations.

Corporations is not a team player in our nation. Corporation is not a team player following the rules of “We the People”. The Corporation and the Republican party has alienated the People of the United States, Under Republican rule the People have no power.

You want power, then vote out all Republicans and you will have a better shot at power

I think Simpson should stop milking the tax payers and give up his rediculous salary (paid by us) and medical coverage or he is just as greedy as the horrible seniors who worked all their lives and paid into Social Security. In fact, if he is so certain that large, high profit corporations still need tax breaks, he should donate his salary and the cost of his medical coverage to them.

And what does he care?He is on a permanent Government Entitlement & Cadillac health care program. The son of a B!tch.

well if lawmakers like him would stop writing laws for corporations to constanly chop thier wages, benefits and retirment maybe they wouldnt be so depenedent on SS. also they could save alot of money if the health insurance and medical industry wasnt A CRIMiNAL MONOPOLY THAT SUCKS ALL THIER MONEY.! and oh yeah you idiot it is thier money! you goverment morans keep stealing it to pay for your mistakes!

The powers in service to corporate interest are drooling at the prospect of doing in social security. If they had privatised it, and used it as investment, they could have absconded with the cash and claimed it a victim of the mystery of the market place. Failing that strategy, they now create an economic crisis and use that as an excuse to cut social security, breaking what is left of a social contract.

Tax the corporate interests, establish some fair distribution of wealth reflective of the percentage of the population contained in the various classes, and concentrate on the creation of jobs and improvement of healthcare, infrastructure and education, and the country will prosper. Continuation along the path set for us through orchestrated economic crises will only see a small percent of the people reap the benefits from the work of all over the centuries. Resist the solution being thrust upon us by Simpson and insist on those who have profited from the disaster to face up to their civil responsibilities.

If we don’t bring back a more just progressive tax which can more fairly redistribute the money, more crisis will follow, each of which will justify relieving us of services in the cause of satisfying a harsh economic necessity; an economic necessity which was created by those with power for that very purpose.

Hey Simpson, those “greedy seniors” voted back in your republkican buddies. Too bad those “greedy seniors” will never hear your comments in the MSM or on Fox propaganda channel.

what happened to the non materialistic Hippie generation? I guess we all got good paying Jobs?

What a rotten bastard. What else is there to say?

Simpson is now and has always been a BASTARD. Sorry, Mr Simpson, but making a deal with people and when you have to pay off, you change the rules is ILLEGAL. You should be seriously ashamed of your sorry ass. You goddamned maggot, these people have paid into this fund for DECADES on YOUR PROMISE that you would have the honor to pay them back. What the fuck is it about THEFT that you don’t understand? You fucking bastard! You’ve got yours so fuck everyone else?

Ever want to see the definition of the word SCUM? Look at Simpson. The perfect definition in the flesh. I hope the rest of your relatives call you up and call you every fucking name in the book. YOU DESERVE IT. They are right, you are a heartless piece of shit, but then, you’re a fucking republican, so why should anyone expect ANYTHING different from you? Take your goddamned party and rot in hell.

Hey, if Simpson doesn’t like the way Social Security works then I have the perfect solution: a immediate payout to everyone who has paid into it, with compound interest at the current Fed rate.

It’s not free money. We pay in all our working lives.

Why should that mail surprise the son of a bitch? Does he exist in an alternate universe?

So how about eliminating pensions for Congress – retroactively. Let Simpson repay his ill-gotten gains since leaving office, and charge him for any health care benefits he’s received as well.

We’ve been far too generous to these part time government employees. Is it any wonder, with their perks and benefits, that they now consider themselves the privileged class and identify with with their “peers” in business?

Let’s not forget that it was Obama who named this bad tempered curmudgeon as a co-chair of the committee, and support a progressive challenge to his reelection. If enough Democrats oppose his renomination he might get out with only one failed term. Stand up and speak out!

“People I’ve known, relatives [saying], ‘You son of a bitch. How could you do this?’”

I think Obama just found his 2012 running mate and his soulmate.
Obama-Simpson 2012; just wait till Homer gets ahold of that.

WELL done Seniors. You voted GOP. This is the GOP line. Have fun with that.

Sounds like Simpson actually has no idea how Social Security works. Or, more accurately, he thinks it’s supposed to operate like a Wall Street casino, rather than a stable pension. He is a shining example of the arrogance of Big Biz and corporate whoredom.

However, having said that, I also note that a huge fraction of the currently retiring generation are the very ones who ushered in today’s plague of conservatism. They voted Reagan in and bought into Newt’s “Contract on America”; failed to contain military spending after the ‘defeat’ of the Soviets; idolized the Wall Street bankster & executive class; shamelessly promoted boom-bust economics which resulted our obscene wealth gap; deregulated everything in sight; and turned money-worship into a full-blown religion. They’re also the very ones who repeatedly voted the pro-biz/anti-human Simpson into the US Senate all throughout the 80′s and 90′s.

I hate to be so cynical, but many of today’s seniors are simply reaping what they (or their misguided conservative neighbors) sown. Unfortunately, in doing so, they’ve utterly destroyed my and my family’s economic future as well.

Send him to Miami for an interface with Miami police.

An old teabag… How sad for this douche that people hate his repugnant idea….

How are they recommending cutting corporate taxes all the while trying to cut social benefits? Corporations need to pay taxes period!

Holy crap, no one told Simpson that he actually died in 2003 and his soul never started living. Pssst, Alan, can I have a word with you….?

The Obama Adminstration: Not right-wing fascist but #1 with right-wing facsists.

How about some facts. It has gotten better now but people who retired in the mid 1980′s and had paid into SS all of their lives withdrew all of their contributions with 8% interest in the first 3 yrs of retirement. The amount taken out of their checks was very small because their life expectancy was less than 65 years. Now more is being taken out but evidently not enough to cover our retirement and the these existing retirees. We must recognize that any money we receive above what we put in (with a reasonable amount of interest) is in fact a form of welfare.

I’m not sayng that we should cut it. Let’s face it no one can afford long term elderly care. There are plenty of other things that could be cut to be able to subsidize welfare benefits for seniors. (Like maybe welfare benefits for lazy, able-bodied crack heads). But we either have to cut benefits, raise revenue or cut something else.

OK, AARPies. Is that enough to make you still vote for creatures like McShit, the pauls, etc? Stop shooting yourself in your cane, errr, foot.

Do you have images of commentators for disqus? I have only my own.

Alan Homer Simpson needs to go. And maybe we ought to strip him of his Social Security benefits and insert them back into the fund for the rest of us. He obviously doesn’t need them.

Isn’t Cheney a resident of Wyoming Too?

No Denny I don’t. Heck, I don’t even have my own.

How to make a manure tea bagger:

1. Fill a metal bucket one-third full of well-cured manure (you can find these in the senate).
2. Add water to fill the bucket to the top of his head.

3. Let him steep for three to four days.
4. Strain the mixture through cheesecloth or other porous fabric into another container.
Add any remaining solids to the garden or toss them into the compost bin.
5. Dilute the remaining liquid with water so it’s the color of weak tea.
6. Apply manure tea according to each plant’s requirements (check seed packets and gardening books for details). For best results, work early in the morning or on cloudy days.

Let’s play a game called Find the Right-Wing Circular ‘Logic’ :

One of the criticisms of Social Security has long been “I should have been able to invest it myself; I’ll never get out of SS what I paid into it.” So now Simpson wants to give us back even LESS of our own money, thereby creating a self-fulfilling prophesy?

That’s the way it always works with them. Like calling Obama a Socialist while ten minutes later saying he’s too cozy with Wall Street. Or saying “Government is Broken!” after they’ve just finished breaking it, and have plans to break it more.

God, they’re idiots.

I have mine. I tweaked with firefox somewhere in the preference. I went into the “error console” and see all kinds of stuff not loading for rawstory. It has to be disqus.

I’ve noticed some posts here attacking Senior Citizens.

Rachael Maddow has done an excellent story on this. The Republicans talk two different worlds, one local, the other national. In the local level they will say one thing at the national level they will say the opposite. Maddow pointed this out and I have seen it myself watching the Representatives from my state.

The local papers do not point out the above fact. I know this from watching my own local papers and news. We have a politician who says the opposite, note: yes he is a Republican.

Now imagine if you are old and you still read the papers because it is one of the best resources of local news, crime in your neighborhood, the policies of your community, mayor, city council, and look here on page 7 the Senator says the stimulus is working, creating jobs and he is taking credit for it, and he will fight for Senior Citzens and their benefits, and so on. The Seniors are happy with what they read, They don’t need to pay attention to anything else, it’s all there in the paper.

Election time comes. The opposition points out the contradictions of the Republican candidate, But the Republican candidate will retaliate saying it’s all lies, you can read where I stands in the papers. The Republican gets elected and boom there goes the middle finger to all the people he claims he is representing. The Republican is sucking a lobbyist cock in the back room. The people are screwed.

The above has worked for politicans for decades. If you know how to watch, you will see it yourself. The easiest party to catch contradicting themselves is Republicans.

I sure as hell didn’t vote for this scum!! I’ve worked since I was 14 years old and due to a totally crappy economy many times over, have had my savings swiped by wall st. The only thing I have left to live on is SS. Not the original plan, but that’s they way it is. Until the plutocracy is finished sucking the last blood out of the last near breathing body, they won’t be happy. Alan Simpson was always a nasty little man, and yes, he hails from Wyoming, an over-represented state ( total population about 350k) with huge mineral and oil/gas reserves. You should see the way they treat the native americans on the reservations there…training for what they plan for everyone else. I digress…there have been NO decent political representatives coming out of this state. Every where else in the country it’s 2010, in Wyoming it’s somewhere around 1920. I kid you not. Lived there, seen it, hated every stinking cold minute.

The US population was 125 million during the baby boom. Is now over 300 million and by 2040 when social security begins to run dry the US population is expected to be 400 million. The VAST majority of the baby boomers will be dead. The “bulge” will have passed thru the hose and Social Security will be solvent again. What’s the problem?

Presently the Social Security system has a 2.5 Trillion dollar surplus!!! This is the only system in the US government that is actually working.

Why did Obushbama appoint this republican reptile to this commission in the first place knowing that his (and all republicans’) agenda is to DESTROY Social Security???!!!

This fix is in. Obushbama is not working for the working slobs in this country.

He is the greatest “bait and switch” president in US history.

Have you seen the price of catfood lately??It’s very expensive.

And from the other side of their mouths Republicans go on about protecting Social Security. It all leaves me so bewildered, NOT! If one can’t come up with a valid fact based reason to privatize Social Security do the sleaze, Republican, thing and slander it’s recipients.

Really? How about the greedy bastards that took these “19″ Iconic Products from America?

18 Iconic Products That America Doesn’t Make Anymore

http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/19-iconic-products-that-america-doesn%27t-make-anymore-535569.html?tickers=f,ge,mat,DELL,MOT,aapl,bni

I guess they don’t make adding machines either. The yahoo link says “19″ when the article says 18.

http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/19-iconic-products-that-america-doesn%27t-make-anymore-535569.html?tickers=f,ge,mat,DELL,MOT,aapl,bni

When Simpson and any others who dispute the Disability System have to live on it while trying to heal, then maybe, we won’t be seen as greedy for we are just trying to GET BY when Congress and Obama give themselves pay raises and SSDI hasn’t even had Cost Of Living increase in two years while subsidized housing costs have gone up, food costs have gone up and God forbid anyone has a special diet needed for that is simply not affordable. WHO PROFITS? Certainly not the elderly and disabled. We are just trying to survive and everyone else is getting a piece of us.

Safeway has sales on big cans. Chicken chunks and gravy for $1.00 to $1.20 a can. Time to stock up!

The problem is the taxes for the wealthiest people have no way to pay for itself. So they have to find a way and what better way than the rob from Social Security.

Think about it. Borrow whatever you need from the most successful program to pay for those tax cuts for the wealthy. The reason they have a date of 2070 is because it’s far enough down the road where the Republicans today won’t be around when the shit hits the fan. That shit will be there is no money to pay back the I.O.U’s the Republicans stuffed in the Social Security box.

Obama you A’hole, why simpson? No other bipeds available?
Simpson what’s your take on corporate greed?
The rich steal and get to keep it, but the middle class keeps paying for it!

It will be hard for them to sleep in their golf carts. No heat or doors.

Those damn greedy seniors!

I have to continue reminding myself to bring this up when I have another debate with my Teabagger friend who wants to have Social Security and all other “entitlement” abolished. His own parents have only been on SS & Medicare for 17 years. His father alone has probably depleted the entire system himself since he has had Altzheimer’s for that long. I totally agree, time to cut his cord!

I have no clue, except, perhaps, to point out that there were two Oswalds, there are at least two Osama bin Ladens, and there’s no reason to assume the CIA doesn’t have a whole gaggle of Obama look alikes. As for this Simpson character, he’s a waste of protein and not to be confused with a human being. I’d say reptile is about the right level of evolutionary development.

If you talk to my Teabbaging friend, he’ll tell you that he wants (ney, demands!) SS privatized so that he can have full access & control of it just like does with his employer-provided pension which it doing “grrrrrreat” since it has gone from $11,000 to $6,000. He’s very happy about that.

And, NOOOOOO! Don’t try to make him understand. Math is a wasted science on these types.

Coincidentally, his parents have been draining the system for about 20 years now. Both on SS & Medicare. His father has had Altzheimer’s for 17 of those.

Excellent point Yavo

Don’t worry, the babyboomers will not be the only ones who will be dead. So will be the majority of us non-baby boomers due to lack of healthcare and getting cancer from those damn irrigation machines at the airports.

Just for your information: Thom Hartmann have his new book online for free to read; a chapter at a time. “Rebooting The American Dream”

http://www.truth-out.org/thom-hartmann-rebooting-american-dream65183

He thinks it is important enough to give it away. Thanks Tom. Miss you in Portland. Enjoyed the bullet holes in your car stories.

If the Dems thought that the 2010 elections were an expression of bitterness and anger, they haven’t seen anything yet. Wait until the Dems get cowered into giving Wall St. access to the Social Security fund. Wait until they cut more hundreds of thousands off unemployment insurance. Wait until the hidden housing bubble bursts again and the B of A crumbles. Wait until Medicaid gets slashed and the ERs get slammed into gridlock.

The economic elites and the GOP, as well as the cowered Dems, have no vision, no foresight, not one consideration of the long term consequences of their economic and political decisions, unintended as they might be. None. They should be wondering what a social and political upheaval will look like when the homeless increase by the tens of millions and the soup lines run out of soup. That’s all on the horizon. But for Wall St. and corporate America, it’s boom time. It doesn’t matter to any of them.

Hey, if Simpson wants to give me back ALL my money with 10% interest compounded daily, I would consider the offer. What I will not consider is being screwed by this rattlesnake and I would remind the little reptile that there are an awful lot of us out here and many of us don’t have a hell of a lot to lose.

No, Cheney is a resident of Texas. He just pretended to be from Wyoming so he could get around the constitutional provision that the president and vice president could not be from the same state.

Any data to back that up or are you just blowing smoke rings?

I voted for Obama, what little good that did me.

I travel quite frequently Johnny, the same thought crosses my mind.

It’s not like Obama didn’t know who and what Simpson was when he put him in charge of the commission–so why did Obama put Simpson in charge of the commission?

Simpson doesn’t seem to be able to wrap his little reptile brain around that.

Note to Simpson: Go fuck yourself.

How dare those greedy seniors take the money that rightfully belongs to the richest 1% in the country!

Well, why the complaints? This is the America you built, People. This is apparently the America you wanted. If you had any objections you should have aired them decades ago. It’s a little too precious late at this point, now, isn’t it?

Enjoy your servitude. I can’t think of a more deserving group of fucks.

They’ll do away with us all one way or another. Best part is that we will be helping them do it.

You guys actually believe there is any money left in the SS coffers?

‘You can call me Al’ Simpson is the “former” senator from Wyoming. Ah Wyoming, where the men are men (aging if not flatulent and/or flaccid) and the sheep are nervous. Well and probably the “old geezers.”
ATTENTION BABY BOOMERS- you ain’t gonna gits you none. Social Security Trust Fund is bankrupt and Simpson along with his patron saint of fiscal shenanigans, one Barack Obama, will see to that. Besides, were the US Treasury to HAVE to pay back all those IOU’s well, Treasury would have to bankrupt China and that’s no lie.

Aside from the fact that SS does not add to the deficit and is solvent till about 2037, does he really believe that seniors are greedier than the maggots of Wall Street. How many senors go around maiming and killing people, like the CEO’s of Massey, Altria, Monsanto, et al, in the name of profit? When was the last time a senor tried to push drugs on you? Or, banned you from getting your medications from Canada because they could charge more, lots more, for the same medication? When is the last time a senor foreclosed on your home or car?

So Alan Simpson if you really believes as you speak, when are you going to forego all the government bennies you get — health care, retirement, postage, travel, etc?

But NO COLA raise for the SECOND YEAR!!! Bettin’ Congress votes themselves another raise, though.

I am sure that Mr. Simpson, his wife, his siblings and their wives and so on are foregoing their Social Security to support Mr. Simpson’s views. As a senior who has worked my entire life since the age of 13, spent four years serving our country and was injured as thanks, I paid for my parents Social Security which was what they depended on in their last years as well as my my own Social Security since Reagan doubled the FICA in the 1980′s. Mr Simpson, whose position in the United States Senate undoubtedly made him a millionaire has no retirement woes. What a dufas. If President Obama doesn’t fire Mr. Simpson for the disrespect he has shown seniors and all people who have faithfully paid into the Social Security System their entire lives then President Obama does not deserve our respect either. By the way, are we not sure that Mr. Simpson’s first name is not really Homer? Doe!

Ask your friend to sign a legal document that he will never file for Social Security or Medicare regardless of his situation.

The monsters running this country will never allow these, or any ideas, that benefit the working slobs to ever happen.

We’re economic slaves in this country. And always will be.

Greedy. For expecting that the taxes they paid all their lives would really go to their retirements, like the government had promised. Imagine the chutzpah!

The 2.5 trillion is what the greedy bastards on Wall St. and the crooks in government want to get their hands on. I lost over 50% of my investments thanks to the Banksters and I don’t want them to see one penny more!

As a senior citizen I have seen the demise of the American work force as our good paying jobs and all the social security taxes they used to produce vanish as well. To those who make disparaging remarks about seniors that once made up the most awesome workforce on this planet I say a strong FUCK YOU ASSHOLES!

All those gray haired fools that voted for republican criminals get what they deserve.

Just remember who appointed this asshole: The Phony-in-Chief. Remember this also the next time Obama fires someone framed by Breitbatrt or criticized by Faux News.

Propose a government perp walk and lets prosicute the corrupt officials that sold us out to criminal bankers and businness men before you propose hardship on law abiding citizens that trusted government and risked their lives fighting for this country.

You’re going to love the look on his face when his folks need to move in with him and his family.

Let’s also consider that in the 1980′s Reagan doubled the tax to pay not only for our parents but for ourselves. Let’s also consider how many good paying jobs have been sent overseas or people replaced by robotics. The tax revenue from all these jobs has vanished as well. The rich get rid of our jobs and then complain about senios living on money beyond their contributions. That’s BS.

we are committed to spending $22 billion a year to prop up an army that Afghanistan doesn’t even have.

And we talk about cutting payments to our senior citizens.

Disgusting

Hey Simpson…they shouldn’t even pay the TAXES on Social Security you asshole!

It’s all the same. Pay in now and get it later, or don’t pay in now have it later. The fear must come in to play for those who cant discipline themselves to do the latter. It’s easy to get a handout, not so easy to take responsibility for one’s finances. This Simpson guy seems to see through that. The rest just seem to be farting dust over there in D.C.

I think I’ll rather kill myself than revisit that topic with the individual. Actually, the ideal thing would be to ask him to have his parents give up all of their “entitlements” – He truly is one insensitive, clueless, ignorant fuck. Goes without saying that he is a “good Christun” a preacher even.

Once again, Obama has proven to be a pushover by not firing Simpson, the most vile Republican creature on the planet. His inflammatory tongue is the scourge of the American public. He never speaks about the greediness of corporations, but he’s all so willing to cut senior citizens Social Security. Regardless of which political party seniors endorse, across the board, they don’t want the Deficit Commission to mess with Social Security. It’s time to cut Defense spending. We don’t need to be in Iraq or Afghanistan tossing billions of dollars into these sinkholes. Obama really needs to fire this turkey.

Ha ha! NOOOO! HE has moved in with them. Still, it doesn’t freakin’ face him. Nothing can or will. He’s actually agreed with me that he’s company will probably can him any day and the little business his family have will come to an end soon all due to greed. Still, he is adamant about defending the rich & their “right” not to pay more taxes because that would be “discrimination” and “inequality”

Oh, hold me back!

First of all to believe that somehow as a conclusion to this commission that seniors today wouldnt receive their kickback is inane and most likely conjured up through the fearmongering of broadcast tv. This is something that would undoubtedly be phased in. And to your first comment- government liabilities and transfers DO count towards the federal deficit, just not the number everyone is accustomed to which is merely the costs of running government excluding long term liabilities and transfer payments. Social security bring the total deficit up to 2-3 times the generally accepted number. Nobody is going to take ur eldery welfare check relax.

DON’T contribute to either major party and don’t vote in 2010. To vote is an exercise in futility. Anything that has become a life line for the ordinary American (S.S. and Medicare) is under attack. Both Obama and the bipartisan congress are willing to let the ordinary American suffer while the wealthy elite are rewarded.
The real gangsters responsible for the bankruptcy of the U.S. are not being prosecuted and jailed. Their bonuses will be outstanding this year.

Congress, Obama and the corporate oligarchy want surplus funds from the cutting of Social Security and Medicare to be available for QE3 and the Wall Street Banksters ongoing rescue. Any surplus money will not be used to reduce the deficit but will be given to the banksters through the Fed.

Alan Simpson. Not just a crazy old man. But a right-wing crazy old man.

This Simpon guy needs to take a short drope at the end of a rope. As dose a lot more in Washington for their crimes on the American people.

This is guy who has sucked on the government tit all his life.

“Alan Kooi Simpson (born September 2, 1931) is an American politician who served from 1979 to 1997 as a United States senator from Wyoming as a member of the Republican Party. His father, Milward L. Simpson, was also a member of the U.S. Senate from Wyoming (1962–1967) and a former governor of Wyoming (1955–1959) as well.” From Wikipedia

I just don’t understand why people think just because they’ve been paying into Social Security all of their lives that they deserve to receive any of what they paid into it.

Don’t they know it’s a Ponzi Scheme?

Silly elderly people.

I agree! If the S.S. fund wasn’t constantly being robbed by our corrupt bipartisan congress (and placed into the general budget) the surplus would be even larger.
A must read essay: http://www.philstockworld.com/2010/07/17/its-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it/

In the essay you will become informed of how Alan Greenspan and Ronald Reagan were able to increase and take Social Security surplus money. Its covered in the section quoting Allen Smith.
So, when Republicans and Blue Dog Demowimps become upset about the Social Security fund just remind them of how Alan Greenspan, Ronald Reagan and the corrupt bipartisan congress have robbed the fund in the 1980′s.

Alan Simpson must go. With his mindset, he cannot be objective and must not be kept on the commission. Hope that he or any of his family receives social security. If they do they must refund every dime and not receive another penny in “entitlements” from the government. Mr Simpson appears to be loosing it.

How small a check does this “non-greedy” senior sob get from being retired from his job?

Does no one have the gumption to ask all those “non – greedy” guys who lived most of thier lives on some government “tit” that they represent the basest and basest of all American taxpayers?

This would be the Alan Simpson who as one of the Boys on the Hill systematically voted to loot Social Security to pay for special projects to enhance their re-election. If I recall, SS was running a surplus and the boys just couldn’t resist taking it an replacing the money with IOU’s. Now that the IOU’s are due, the lenders are greedy SOB’s for expecting the money be repaid. The ungrateful wretches should be taken out and terminated! Oh wait, Obamacare will do that. Never mind.

Shades of Obama’s treatment of GM stockholders and creditors.

And what a good little republican soldier simpson is! He has no empathy or foresight. Not giving a second thought about the sacrificing Seniors would be making…….and not caring when it is brought to his attention. I’m sure the white house forced him to at least pretend to care and understand. Why doesn’t he recommend raising taxes for the poor while he is at it? Because as a republican he would never think of sunsetting bush’s tax cuts for the rich or cutting the defense spending or completely end the wars and not get our military in any more wars unnecessarily! God forbid the repubs would do whats right, fair and the richs patriotic duty!

No surprise here. It’s been the goal of the Republican Party to tear down SS and Medicare since the day they were created. Pensions, be they government or private, amount to a contract with beneficiaries, and in the main, republicans are not much in favor of contracts that don’t benefit them, as in large corporations being allowed to simply vacate pension plans during the Reagan Administration. It’s obvious that Simpson is no more interested in true bipartisanism than, oh say, Mitch McConnel… even while he whines about the polarization of this nation.

As for seniors “greedily” expecting a payout from SS, into which they paid their entire working lives, THAT also is a contract. It’s not at all unreasonable to expect either an insurance policy or public policy to live up to its promises.

Hate week is still alive and well……..Now it is attack seniors……..nice going politicans….so you want to get out of paying back all that money you stole out of Soc. Sec? Just start hating against senior citizens who you rape every day. Get the nation to hate them so you can steal their trust fund some more and that of current payers.

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I can go to Atlantic City anytime and see my tax money being spent on the slots by these needy seniors.

Welfare check? Kickback? WTF?!? People pay into social security their entire lives and you call that welfare and/or a “kickback?” Obviously you know nothing about welfare or social security, or probably much of anything else–you’re just spewing on behalf of your masters. And social security brings the total federal deficit up 2 to 3 times? Provide a credible source that supports that assertion or STFU. Social security is currently solvent and will be until around 2037 and has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the federal deficit. Now go away you ignorant troll.

That is why we read. Just maybe if the stories are handed down, they will get feet.

SIMPSON AND BOWLES THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO MAKE A SPLASH WITH THEIR REPORT, until they read comments from Americans across the country saying NO to social security cuts when there’s no plan to cut RAMPANT wastefulness and obsolete departments and functions across the entire government. The fact that Simpson is complaining about spending $25K of his own money is SAD, especially when he and his comrades in the Senate got wealthy on making deals with lobbyists which are NOT in the interest of the people. Mr. Simpson, just ask Obama and Bernanke to reimburse you — they’ve forked over money to every other elite on the face of the earth….by robbing “the little people”.

Since the entire deficit is owed to the Federal Reserve, a PRIVATE bank owned by 13 elite mostly European families and the Rockefellers, and it was generated unconstitutionally by allowing the FED to print money rather than Treasury, the entire deficit should be WRITTEN OFF as a FRAUD against the people.

That said, Congress NEEDS to CUT SPENDING DRASTICALLY. The tea partiers should be the people on this “commission”. Bowles and Simpson are so old and with the “in-crowd” that they are “out of touch”. If I hear one more politician say they want to cut Social Security (a small monthly stipend for the seniors who paid into it all their lives), instead of the VAST WASTEFUL GOVERNMENT AGENCIES that never go away regardless of being obsolete, I will scream.

Some things that could be slashed with no adverse effect on Americans:
(1) Dept of Education (worked better at the State and County level – grades continue to deteriorate)

(2) Homeland Security (REFUSES to do its job of securing the border or deporting illegals. Instead, spends taxpayers money suing AZ, harassing airline passengers, and sending notices to nationwide police departments that returning Vets, tea partiers, patriots, and those with anti-Obama stickers on their cars are TERRORISTS. Allows their agents to insist an airline put a panty-bomber on their airplane with no ID (Christmas bomber). FOSTERED BP poisoning of the Gulf and allowed the Coast Guard, now under their supervision, to cover up OIL, TOXIC OCEAN, TOXIC SEAFOOD, TOXIC AIR, CONTINUED COREXIT SPRAYING, and PEOPLE DYING. Napolitano should have been fired YEARS AGO!

(3) The FBI and DOJ REFUSE to do their jobs of prosecuting Wall Street and big banks or investigate ForeclosureGate or Fannie/Freddie. The FBI covered up the Turkish Council and Israeli lesbian blackmail of Rep Jan Schakowsky that Sibel Edmonds testified about on Aug 8, 2009, and Schakowsky is STILL Chair of the House “Intelligence” Committee. The DOJ is just plain incompetent and fails to do its job altogether, despite Judicial Watch proof of coverup on the Black Panthers crime.
DOJ spends taxpayer dollars suing AZ against Americans’ wishes.

(4) Dept of Energy, which despite an oil crisis in 1972 has FAILED MISERABLY in turning the nation into an energy-efficient one in regard to housing and transportation. 100 years of future technology and medical cures for cancer THAT TAXPAYERS PAID FOR was handed over to military-industrial corporations who REFUSE TO GIVE THAT TECHNOLOGY TO THE PUBLIC. With the super-fast advancement of electronics, we should be driving spaceships by now, rather than the same oil-based cars at 25 mpg we were driving in the 50’s. Even electric cars (Volt) are old technology! Where are the air cars from Australia?

(5) The wars should be ended and the Pentagon blasted for its use of hundreds of thousands of mercenaries like Halliburton, KBR, XE, etc. and for buying brand new trucks when a tire blows rather than stocking TIRES, and for their Israeli Pentagon comptroller losing over $4 trillion just prior to 911 (no investigation, no prosecution – definitely a coverup. The comptroller’s company manufactured remote control systems for planes), and for “losing” another $8 billion last year, and for “losing” planeloads of cash sent to Iraq, and for their ABJECT FAILURE (along with the Red Cross and Clinton/Bush fundraising — where did THAT money go?) to help Haiti in any way, shape or form. THE PENTAGON’S BUDGET SHOULD BE CUT FOR ALL THESE LOSSES IN THE FOLLOWING YEAR’S BUDGET. The Pentagon’s ever-expanding military bases, like the new one they’re planning in Columbia, should be SHUT DOWN and all those soldiers brought home to defend our own nation. Cutting over 800 bases across the globe should save PLENTY. Add all those foreign jobs, vehicles, and equipment we’re paying for at these bases.

(6) The State Dept under Hillary should STOP building billion-dollar embassies in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, and London. Who will use these embassies in the desert and in war zones? Staffs of
over 2000 and security personnel of 500 for each embassy, vehicles, office supplies, gasoline, and equipment would rack up huge savings.

(7) The Czars and their staffs should be cut. Michelle’s 27 aids should be cut. There should be a BUDGET LIMIT for presidential foreign trips.

(8) Nancy Pelosi should NOT be given an airplane. All members of congress should fly commercial, and so should the presidential staff.

(9) $385 billion in social services handouts to illegals PER YEAR…food stamps, SSI (social security they DIDN’T pay into), HUD housing where Obama’s illegal aunt lived, free hospitalization, medicaid, free college education under DREAM Act, free public schools, prison for 30% illegal inmates, FREE LEGAL DEFENSE, building more schools, more prisons, hiring more teachers, more policemen, more court personnel, while they commit murders and rapes of children, form criminal gangs with impunity, drive drunk killing Americans. FORGET the Dream Act! Pass “birthright” bill.

(10) Cut Israeli foreign aid completely (this is directed to Cantor). Americans are tired of paying for the war-mongering and threats.

(11) Combine all the competing Intelligence agencies, and cut personnel.

(12) Abolish the CIA for its 60 years of drug-running, gun-running, money-laundering, and murders of Americans and foreigners alike, to include popularly elected leaders. That agency does NOT represent the values of the people of this nation.

THESE ARE JUST A “FEW” SUGGESTIONS, BUT THERE ARE THOUSANDS MORE….AND THE PEOPLE WANT SOMETHING DONE ABOUT ALL THESE ATROCITIES, rather than cutting old people’s social security. WE’RE VERY ANGRY REGARDING SIMPSON’S AND BOWLES’ CAN ONLY THINK OF SOCIAL SECURITY TO CUT.

QE2 & The Great Misdiagnosis: (or “how we got here”)
http://www.financialsense.com/contributors/jim-willie/qe2-and-the-great-misdiagnosis

All of your comments make sense and would be the way by which a Government For the People and By the People would resolve what has taken place. It’s just too bad that the warning that Eisenhower made to us in the 50′s could not have been better responded to by the Citizens. Eisenhower had a heart attack which ended that message and unfortunately ended the possibility of the opportunities that we once had. Welcome to the World Power economy, so just shut up and try and accept it. Or, take it to the streets and with the control of our media, “The Revolution Will NOT be Televised”

You idiot! Republicans always take the prize for being greedy!!!!! I hope someone throws this statement of yours in your face when they change your diaper some day! I worked my ass off all my life and get shit in social security and medicare. You need to give up your gov. health plan and live like the rest of us.

[...] when the current administration minimizes the threat the unsustainable debt [...]

Excellent points. The linked article can give anyone in America an opportunity to join in force and start to make changes to our plight. Do not shop at Primary retailers like Walmart and Target. Do not buy new products made outside the USA. If you just must have a foriegn made product find it through a secondary retailer like Marshalls or T.J Max. We are not going to be able to make changes by way of the ballot box or in the streets. It is our buying habits that can bring about change. A week of empty Walmart parking lots will be a message sent to corporation that will be discussed in the Board Room.

The only thing that I am sure of is that China is no more a friend of the Corporations than The USA is. They are concerned with what sells and what doesn’t. They will jump to move back production in the US if Americans will demand it by not purchasing off-shore products

No kidding and I can turn on right wing radio anytime and hear stupid comments , go figure . How do you know it’s your tax money , are you in a casino filled with Wall street bankers ?

These people probably saved up for several months to be able to go. AND…it’s their OWN money that was put into social security their whole lives, NOT YOURS!

And who paid for YOUR Government retirement pensions….Congressman….? Wasn’t it the very people, (taxpayers and working class that has paid into social security) that you are now calling greedy…? the working class who make less $105,000.00 a year..paid for every body, including your worthless Congressional asses…! When in the hell will people wise up to this racket…?

It’s also obvious that they aren’t interested in the deficit , Social Security has nothing to do with the deficit , it is a totally separate self funding program . If they really wanted to fix it lift the cap , problem solved , you notice they didn’t even mention that . If these slime bags were really interested in the deficit they would seriously go after the military , advise getting out of these useless wars and bring the top tax rates back to pre Regan levels , around 70 or 80% . That has been proven to work , austerity never works in a recession , it kills demand by killing buying power . You can only grow your way out , the public has to have money to spend to stimulate business activity . They also didn’t mention closing tax breaks that make it more profitable to ship jobs overseas or penalizing company’s that do , and how about changing our stupid and counterproductive trade policies . Maybe putting bankers in jail that steal us blind wouldn’t be a bad idea either and perhaps confiscating their stolen assets .

I’m wondering how much the recent Dem loses in the election were due to S.S. recipients and soon-to-be-recipient baby-boomers reacting to two consecutive years of no COLAs while trillions were expended to prop up criminal speculators and hustlers.

Poor ole selfish Simpso! But what a consummate shithead–well-tutored, I think, by the narrow, mean-spirited RePUKEliCUNT mafia….yet, I doubt the fartface turd’s diatribes on SSecurity will amount to a rat’s petootie in the long run.

[...] Simpson, Co-chair of President Obama’s Catfood Commission has opened his mouth again, attacking [...]

So, what is he trying to protect? I assume this is all some sort of smokescreen for the real agenda.

It’s not a Ponzi scheme . A ponzi scheme keeps skimming money out so there’s no money to pay back investors who were promised huge paybacks in the form of unrealistic rates of return . Madoff ran a Ponzi scheme . Social Security is a trust or insurance program . One generation of workers is paying in to pay benefits for the previous generation of workers so on and so forth . It does require occasional tweaking but works like any other insurance program minus the profit motive ( because it’s government run ) . You have a common misunderstanding of how the program works usually brought on by to much uncritical listening to right wing prevaricators . There is a cure for this , first turn off Fox News , Limbaugh , Beck or whoever and actually research the subject . It may be painful at first because you’ll be doing something your not used to , it’s called thinking . The Social Security program has worked perfectly for almost seventy years , has never missed a payment and is the reason the elderly are no longer the largest poverty group as they were before the programs inception .

I’d be willing to gripe about the greed and selfishness of older Americans…because many of them vote conservative and have no gratitude for the advantages that liberal policies gave them…advantages they have voted out of the hands of the rest of us. They got their slice of the pie…then threw the rest away before we got to the table. So am I bitter…yes…

…but that doesn’t change the fact that Simpson is an elitist asshat with no respect for the social contract that pays his wages along with those Social Security checks. It comes out of our pockets…and it cuts deep for us…but its supposed to pay off later. Losing another five or ten percent of a hundred million dollars isn’t a great burden…but losing an extra five or ten percent of 25,000 dollars is a mutherf*cking bitch! We accept that loss because the benefits come later…and we’re the ones who need them. The cow with 310 million tits is a backwards equation…if Simpson had his way that milk would never reach the 310 million people he’s spent his life sponging off of. To hell with him!

“Obama:2010 (or How To Lose Re-election Before The Campaign Even Starts)” coming to a tv and blog near you.

The only greedy seniors are the Senior Senators that have bamboozled the working class since August 14, 1935 when the Bankster Hack Franklin DeRothchild Roosevelt signed into law the biggest Ponzi Scheme in world history.
And the Left/Right Skanks in the District of Criminals have been pilfering from the slop trough ever since.
Will the Senior Senator from WhyOme concur?

Despite what you claim, Social Security is fully funded through at least 2037; there is no need for the government for borrow anything for Social Security and it adds nothing to debt. Read: http://www.cbo.gov/doc.cfm?index=11943 and look at the facts of what has/is creating the deficit.

If we are really serious about the deficit/debt than let’s get rid of the Bush tax cuts and instantly a large percentage of the deficit is gone. Go back to the tax rates of the Eisenhower or Kennedy Presidencies and we can rid of our debt and recreate the dynamic U.S. middle class, restore the American dream, and re-energize our county.

The Social Security “debate” is a straw man and serves only as a distraction to the real problems. It’s really too bad that some of us refuse tot see that the “elderly welfare check” was earned by U.S. Citizens with hard work creating a better U.S.unlike the self-serving Wall Street financial manipulations that serve only to impoverish our country, our states, our cities, our homes and ourselves.

Alan Simpson was Governor of Wyoming 1955 – 1959; he was in the Wyoming House of Representatives 1964 – 1977 & he’s been was public office non-stop since 1979 – 1997 in the U.S. Senate. He eligible for Social Security, he can collects his FERS, he is eligible for Medicare and he calls our American seniors greedy for wanting to get back what they’ve been paying into for decades?
He’s teaches from time to time at University of Wyoming at Laramie, so he’s certainly not hurting for income.
How dare he. I am sure he still gets his taxpayer supported health care too, remember we pay 75% of the cost of the health care insurance provided to our esteemed ‘public servants’.
Simpson is a greedy creep, not the millions of seniors who’ve paid into Social Security for decades & paid for their own insurance too their entire lives.
He needs to check himself!

I wonder if Simpson is projecting?

He means except for old veterans, right? And retired doctors, bankers and CEOs?

If you go back and actually find out what social security was intended
to be you’d have a different tone. It was intended to be a safety net
not a solution to retirement savings or lack thereof. I don’t depend
on my government for anything. And I’m happy with what I do get.
Somehow this makes me a troll.

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I don’t have to listen to you broke has been dust farters. I’m not
counting on getting naything back from FICA. I could give two shits as
I don’t plan on being destitute. Go ahead call me a troll. I still do
my taxes with the American flag up but that doesn’t mean I have to
stand in line for a fucking handout.

Simpson, my holiday wish is for you to die painfully!

What a disgusting POS. Obama should be proud of Simpson.

Dear Mr Simpson,
Until you and your Republican cohorts tanked the economy, I had been gainfully employed producing measurable product in this nation for 35 years. I paid for Social Security under a contract with the US government. I did not make a living pushing little green pieces of paper around playing hide the losses, nor did I make a living off the taxpayer teats as you did. But now you want to change the rules on Social Security because of a political game.
I rebuke you, Mr Simpson, and suggest that if you were anything approaching a decent human being, you would hang your head in shame. To attack the most helpless element of our society in this manner just to show your political stroke is simply reprehensible.

It goes to figure, though. The AARPies like to go to casinos and give their money to people they don’t know, just as they vote for people they don’t know, to steal their money and make them eat cat/dog food.

Why does everyone try to put this into the Republican/Democrat box? It has nothing to do with party. The Democrats under Clinton started TAXING Social Security. That was the biggest steal there is. Taxing a tax! Neither party created this problem, the banksters and the Federal Reserve did. Our economy is being destroyed because of corporate welfare and the banksters making money out of thin air and then keeping it for themselves. You can’t pay down the deficit by increasing taxes when we are all taxed to death for what? To support the military industrial complex and their wars and waste? To subsidize evil like Monsanto and the pharm and insurance industries. Why don’t we quit attacking the little guy and attack the real problem? As long as this provokes us to turn on each other, nothing will ever change. Look at the real enemy and he is wearing blue and red.

Denny (AHEM) some of us AARPers still jog 3 miles a day up Mountain Park. (500′).
Pffft.
LOL

It seems to be easy for someone of the great stature of Simpson who will get his full pay as his socially secure retirement while I will neither live long enough to get my paid into the system funding back as promised. Maybe I’m wrong perhaps I’m greedy and he’s just blessed.

As long as the wealthy continue to use their power and wealth to enhance their own wealth and power and dominate the media megaphone, things will only get worse for the majority, who will descend further and further in serfdom. A system that cedes control of its wealth to either the poor or the wealthy is bound to fail. Any one who believes they are self sufficient is either deluded or narcissistic. No one is an impregnable island unto themselves. We all need each other. Our children and grandchildren will curse us for letting the dream of liberty and justice for all slip into the dustbin of history. We need to renew the virtues of honesty, patience, courtesy, earned respect and sharing of the bounties from the common weal. Websters unabridged and ad hominem attacks will not do the job. Only reasoned discourse and shared sacrifice will work.

I think Mr. Simpson is getting a bit daft in the head. If he would like to volunteer to live the rest of his life solely on a social security fixed income then he might have something to say about those of us who will. Fuck him.

I agree and invite you to check out David DeGraw’s latest blog over at ampedstatus where he urges alternative media outlets to stop buying into the GOP/DEM fight. Both parties are bought and paid for by the same oligarchy.

http://ampedstatus.com/the-two-party-oligarchy-vs-the-people

Well Mr Simpson lets talk about you and your friends,,We will start with CHANEY and his Halliburton gangsters,,,Care to challenge me on that ?How about your fellow repub Tom Delay and his band of 13 counts…How about your good buddy Ex-senator Phil Graham who wrote the master plan for the Wall St. collapse….I could go on and on but I want to speak for myself and the rest of my generation……Karl Rove and his minions have taught all you repubs well,,attack the other person or group for what you your-self are guilty of—–I strongly resent your reckless attack on seniors—–You call us greedy after what you and your REPUBLICAN PARTY have done to this country—-Two GD wars—Economy in shambles—Racism being promoted in a shameless fashion while you are having TEA—Our world reputation is in the toilet from CHANEY,,BUSH—Stem-cell research being delayed for 8 years while you and your party were pandering to the BIBLE thumpers and delaying medical research !! You and your party have made being stupid “chic” this election cycle….Can you say Sarah Palin,,,Christine O’donnel,,,Sharon Angle,,,Joe Miller,,,Rand Paul………Our generation was the Greatest generation that this country may ever see and contributed greatly in every aspect of our society…Now you come along and say this BULL-SHIT…..Sir Simpson,,you are a moron,,look about you and your fellow repubs and tell me what you see….Do you see a little greed on Wall St…A little greed on “K” street,,,A little greed at BP,,,A little greed at the rating services, such as Moodys,,,A little greed at the big medical insurers,,,A little greed at big pharma,,,A little greed at the Credit card issuers,,,A little greed at the large hospital chains such as Humana,,,A little greed maybe in your own state of Wyoming that permits hydraulic fracturing that is poisoning your water supply,,,Have you Mr Simpson even bothered to read “Silent Spring” by Rachel Carson?? How dare you try to put me and my generation into the same slimy pit as your fellow repubs,,,such as ROVE,,,Condi Rice,,,Rumsfeld,,,Wolfovitz,,,Chaney,,,D. Feith,,,Limbaugh,,,Beck,,,Hannity,,,O’Reilly,,,Ingram,,,Gen Myers,,,Tommy Franks,,,John Woo,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,You want to attack whats left of the Middle Class and its Seniors well buddy you will have a fight on your hands when we push Congress to react to you and your kind…………Mr Simpson I believe you have a nice big fat Government pension to rely on,,well when I see you trying to lower that ,,then I may listen to you…..Do you think that when these stupid wars, that we seem to be always in ,are no longer,,,then we can once again have a prosperous country.?………………………………Charles Belenchia

Simpson is just another Rethugli-CON, who can’t stand seeing money paid into Social Security by the working people of this country, and it was the bumbling Repulsive-cons who created the necessity of the Democrats to instill the “COLA” in order to maintain the inflation rate which averaged 15% since the 70s or we who became eligible wouldn’t HAVE TO DUMPSTER DIVE FOR OUR EVENING MEALS!! We can thank the gop’s worshiped “Emperor” Ronald Reagan to melt the “Carte Blanche” Deficit Card to the tune if about 4.5 Trillion Dollars and counting “Bushit-E Ranch, Inc. Charging up the Deficit to another 7.5 trillion with 2 wars on emergency funds and it WAS NOT THE DEMOCRATS DOING “ALL” THETAXING AND SPENDING. IT’S THE RETHUGICONS STUPID!! And along comes the Democrats to get blamed and it floors me how they can get blamed for what the Rethugicons have been doing since Emperor Reagan reined this soon to be democrocyless country.

Social Security is NOT a handout!

Nobody “plans” on being destitute. But shit happens, it’s called life, and you better plan well for it.

Baron von Simpson has been on the Federal take for decades and remains on the take. Of course, being a member of the nobility he is entitled to take everything he has gotten from the Federal Government for most of hie life.

The right wing is attempting to reframe social and economic issues as moral issues. If you are poor and out of work it is because you are sinful, workshy, and uncooperative with authority. Now, if you are expecting the government to fulfil its contract of social security, well, you’re just greedy. Not of course the generation responsible for the deficits and deregulation in service to greed and power, or the one responsible for guiding the puppet prince into wars for oil interests, or the one that utilised assassinations of elected officials in foreign countries because their policies conflicted with the interest of IT&T or some other corporate interest. No, that was the greatest generation.

Money and wealth are social constructs, they are available to collective restructuring, if we see the need and have the will. The present situation is a conflict between different parties in contract relations with the government. Either they can negate the contract with the wealthy and say that they will not short change the citizens to further the personal and corporate accumulation of power, or, they can turn to the citizens and call us greedy and therefore undeserving of social security. It is a matter of which contract they will honour. Quiet clear that they intend to continue their service to wealth at the expense of the nation. Anyone who protests such betrayal will be vilified as “greedy”, “socialist”, or, more popular with the Tories and certain right wing elements of the Catholic church, “sinful and uncooperative with authority”.

Now we know what a Republican-led, conservative-led DEATH PANEL looks like…the Catfood Commission.

Oh, so according to your logic(?), people paying into social security for their entire working lives was never meant to be paid out to them upon retirement? Then exactly why do you think those social security taxes are deducted from everyone’s paycheck if not for their retirement?

The social security payments were never meant to be a person’s “sole” source of retirement funds; but rather, as a supplement to other retirement savings. So no matter what you erroneously believe, the purpose for paying into social security through our paychecks for the entire time we work IS for our retirement. (In that sense, it is a ‘safety net’ so that no matter what, upon retirement you’ll have some kind of income and not be completely destitute. Life has a way of throwing curve balls when you least expect it such as what happened to all of the people that lost their life savings during the economic collapse through no fault of their own). And social security is not a handout or a kickback; it’s more like a savings account.

Social security has been set up as a trust fund and when you reach retirement age, as long as you paid into it you’ll receive your fair portion regardless of how much other ‘wealth’ you’ve managed to accumulate during your lifetime. It’s your money–you’ve earned it.

Republicans hate Americans. Not too hard to understand.

They vote against Veterans benefits, unemployment extensions or any other program that helps Americans. Well working class Americans anyway.

Senator Simpson really needs to step down. He’s a co-chair of a commission that is supposed to formulate constructive solutions but in fact, Simpson is seeking to formulate ways in which to undermine the Social Security program. This is unconscionable and he needs to be relieved of his position.

No one gets fired and no one goes to jail. It is all the same. No accountability for anything. And this fearful President is the last one to cause a fuss for any reason. And that is why he has lost his base. I should know, I was one of his base.

This is a fearful President and a fearful party. This is also why I am an Independent. The fighters like Grayson and Feingold are out. This government makes me want to puke. Greedy, selfish, self serving, corrupt. These are our politicians. This whole country stinks, and if I had the money to leave, I would have been long gone.

All true, but in a willfully ignorant sense of the truth. Bottom line
either we pay in or don’t. In either case nobody is even remotely
suggesting paying in and not getting anything in return. Perhaps they
should though especially in the case of the rich recievibg these
payments as well even when it’s of no significant value to them as in
the safety net sense. In any event what I truly want to tell you is
that I and I probably speak for most beginning professionals my age
don’t care to support your generation since in doing so I bankrupt
this country. So it’s all a matter of which generation pulls out from
this ponzi scheme. Any actuarian will tell you, a generation of gen
y’ers isn’t going to be able to earn enough to make transfer payments
to all the baby boomer and post bb generations. I don’t expect your
generation to turn yourselves in, but perhaps mine will. Good day sir.

I bet on people being destitute and living in squalor on scottrade. Been making decent money. Enough cash flow to retire on. Maybe you should try.

I do a lot of that, too. Running out of my house to avoid a home invasion.

I use heavy old vintage kitchen stuff like Kitchen Aid, Sunbeam, real pressure cookers, Kirby’s, and heavier-than-a-boat anchor sewing machine that can sew shoes, sails and, in a real pinch, if I can get them to hold still long enough; sew the lips on a few tories mouths shut.

Did you see this:

Koch-funded anti-tax group protests Sellwood Bridge funding plan

http://bikeportland.org/2010/11/26/koch-funded-anti-tax-group-protests-sellwood-bridge-funding-plan-43557

Simpson is a ghoul. Social Security has never run a deficit. Simpson’s Republican buddies have borrowed money paid in the name of social security to fight ridiculous wars, and give tax breaks to their wealthy benefactors.

And of course, no one breaks a piggy bank or cashes in a government bond to pay social security. A computer is programmed each time a new recipient joins, and the money shows up each month in the person’s checking acount. Our government simply creates the money, and until those recipients start spending in an inflationary manner, what is the harm? Paying a debt in your own currency, to your own people is not difficult. How hard would it be to pay your debts if you could print money?

I am about as tired of Teaparty crap such as cutting the Department of Education as I am of Simpson and his conservative crap. They don’t call you all Teaparty Republicans for nothing you all stand for the same neoliberal principles and none of you have a bit of sense or any ideas that make sense because you don’t have enough facts to make sense. All you have are a conglomeration of possibilities based on what you believe would be good ideas resulting from what you have heard from some talker on radio or television.

Most of your suggestions actually seem based on propaganda you heard on Fox News in the last three years.

None of what you hear there is news, it is entertainment. Fox went to court to get permission to lie to you on those terms, they argue that what they provide is not news it is entertainment and so they should not have to tell the truth. The judge watched about an hour of Fox News and agreed! So they don’t even have any pretense for saying what they offer is news.

Spend some real time educating yourself, read some real books and stop listening to propaganda that is no way to learn anything.

We should organize an email campaign with a one-line message: ‘You son of a bitch. How could you do this?’”

Our dear Ike spelled exactly how much a bomb cost versus a bushel of wheat or the cost of a school. We didn’t listen to Ike, and have spent our way into stupidity. He told us . He spelled it out for us. We refused to listen and now can we fight back?

Did I get something wrong about just Who made over $1.5 trillion dollars in profit the last quarter.
And just who Bush gave over $2.5 trillion dollars from the social security fund.

Did I get something wrong about just Who made over $1.5 trillion dollars in profit the last quarter.
And just who Bush gave over $2.5 trillion dollars from the social security fund.

You would be ever so lucky to receive that.

You would be ever so lucky to receive that.

You have to remember what the right wing Christian leaders tell you.
It is better to Give than Receive..
It has help religious organizations like the 700 club become a multi billion dollar enterprise.
Together ,, the religious right and these Global Monopolies run the policies of this country with their brain washing and propaganda.
Does anyone really believe they are following the teaching of Jesus Christ.

want money? shut down the silly war in afghanistan that you guys started 10 years ago and is a fiasco and stinks. These people paid their money, you borrowed from it and now don’t want to pay back. Who got rich? that’s right…the military industrial complex and guys like you with kick backs and lobby from those companies.

now they are scrambling to find a way to pay the money owed to China huh? How come big corporations CEO’s still make bonuses of millions and billions. A payday of social security is a crumb of bread related to that. My inlaws live with $400 a month for their expenses and are in their 80′s. You know how many people could live in a year with what we spend each and every day in the middle east?

How about this: Fuck you, you old geezer cocksucker. I am so sick of rich bastards, who’ve bellied up to the fucking government trough all their lives, trying to tell regular folks how the fuck they should live.

Has anyone EVER heard Simpson call corporate CEOs who rob this country blind, destroy companies, cost us millions of jobs and still give themselves billions in bonuses, greedy?

Of course not – those are his people – and how dare the old and indigent get in the way of the rich taking the rest of what little is left?

People like Simpson are why the French invented the guillotine.

What?!? Stop Simpson’s rich war monger buddies from raking in blood-soaked war profits?? Are you mad?

Has anyone done a background check on this guy,…… I mean he could be related to Cheney. That would explain his lack of heart.

It’s a combination of Milton Friedman economics and the shock doctrine. The documentary was just on Sundance and I just got the book. It’s going to take a revolution people.

thank you mister president for another insightful choice for the people – keep playing your four-dimensional chess – it truly is a marvel to behold. just inspirational!

…so much more true today than then . . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g30nwCpyaA

Very good read Donald. Thanks.

I fear you may be correct…. at this point there’s enough reason to believe it’s all smoke and mirrors

I keep wondering, why don’t we hear from some of the Tea Party grassroots about this? Oh, yeah, forgot FreedomWorks is funded by Pete Peterson. Still, I’d love to see some enterprising reporter get a quote from Dick Armey on this topic. Ah, well, his editors would never let it through anyway.

Well here’s my two cents on the matter… The wealthiest and highest earning citizens are now entering or are soon to retire.They are also going to be the ones who’s entitlements will require a significant subsidizing from younger workers paychecks. The real problem here isn’t so much the entitlement programs expense, but the disparity between the pay among younger workers and the comparative wealth of the newly and soon to be retired. By comparison, the older generations earned higher incomes and enjoyed a higher quality of life (continuing into their retirement) than their younger compatriots who are currently working. While it is normal for people to earn a greater income as they reach senior level positions and from matured salaries, there has been a notable gap in the earnings of younger workers which haven’t kept pace with inflation or cost of living increases. Furthermore, younger people have taken on too much debt earlier in life which will make it nearly impossible for them to save or invest in retirement strategies that would otherwise supplement a wealthier (and healthier) lifestyle. Such a gap in wealth will also mean that not only will younger people not receive such generous benefits as their elders, but that there has been a notable decline in revenue entering the social security fund at a time when disbursements are going to quickly rise as ‘boomers continue to retire.

I don’t actually have anything against seniors or social security, I believe that it should be kept solvent to help prevent those who need it the most from suffering a life of abject poverty in their golden years. However, it is those who have managed to amass a significant estate of wealth that have less need that those who have been less fortunate. The problem lies with gradual changes in past up to current economic policies and business practices. Businesses have moved away from rewarding variable capital (labor) towards maximizing profits and attracting investment in fixed capitol or are saving instead. Many have also placed their capital in foreign markets where cheaper labor is available. For years now, many businesses have been placing artificial demand for increased productivity among an underpaid and over tasked workforce that just isn’t seeing as much benefit for their efforts.

I think it’s pretty clear what needs to happen to reverse such trends, but seeing as the future generations are already going to be saddled with paying of today’s debt while seeing less of a return on services provided for their efforts, I honestly don’t know how much good it will do. One way or another, this country will be forced into social reform and the younger generations will eventually have their say, that’s if there’s much left worthy of having anything to say about it…

Your Tea Bagger factoids are a little weak here “Freedom”. Old and infirm American citizens were starving back in the good old “Hoover” days. People paid into this system for it to be a little buffer in their later years. The money has been embezzled. The new right wing re word is “Ponzi scheme”. You have been DUPED.

Simpson voted against being able to deduct SS payments from income tax payments, further burdening the working/deduct/payees (American citizens). Social Security has a SURPLUS until 2025. Minor adjustments could remedy this going forward.

Simpson is all giddy about being able to throw out his unchallenged quote “it (SS) is filled with a bunch of IOUs”. The clods in congress have no problem giving IOUs to China and paying interest (treasury notes). If this money has been embezzled to pay for wars, rockets and bombs legal proceedings should be forthcoming. Repay Social Security!

The oligarchy and their lickspittle media puppets have re defined Social Security as a government hand out. It is NOT. Don’t let Social Security be another loss to semantics. Simpson is throwing out these seemingly inane quotes around about a very important subject to the well being of the citizens of the U.S. to see if they will stick. When this curmudgeon is caught lobbing these lies, he always back peddles, apologizes and walks them back. Many of his smoke screens are already sticking. Get rid of this bafoon Mr. Obama.

I agree. It is disheartening that the Tea Bagger agenda and all the crazy hate talk is somehow going to be glommed onto this right wing Social Security attack.

Critic, stick to the point. Leave the talk show babble out of the discussion, talk to your republican overlords. While you are ranting about wacky birther bills, Social Security is under attack

Its their money, they paid into the fund. They can do what they want. They sure aren’t slotting with their “winnings” from the Wall Street cons.

Wrong. Working people pay into Social Security and employers MATCH Social Security ( I had employees. pre Bush). Many more Americans will desperately need this money now that the myth of the trickle down economy has reached into their IRAs and Wall Street “investments”. Many of my right wing republican friends are included in this diaspora. Unfortunately they, like you “Chingo”, are patiently waiting for the republican spin machine to give them someone to hang it on. Gee who will that be?

But as I tell my republicant friends, we all suffer the consequences of the dupes of the right, the gutless middle and the brain dead youth to lazy to vote. Empathy is the lost factor. I have never voted for a republicon in my life. I am gray and I paid. These republican need to be stopped and the mealy mouthed democrats need to be kicked in the ass.

If you lived and worked back in the time Social Security first came out and for some years after, it was set up as a Trust Fund for any person who wanted to put into it. Note the word “wanted” because back then you had a choice to take it or opt out and not have it taken out of your pay. What was taken out was not considered a tax, because it was a savings and did not actually belong to government. It was a volunteer savings plan for individuals. The government was acting as a bank to store your SS savings account Trust Fund.

In the 60′s LBJ had the Trust Fund moved into ‘General Fund’ account and congress began stealing the Trust Fund of Americans. Somewhere along the line, to make it legal I suppose, and to make it all belong to government, Soc. Sec. amounts taken out of your paychecks not only became mandatory but were called a ‘tax’. Now it belonged to government.

As time went on, only congress knew they were bankrupting the SS funds and replacing their
theft with IOU’s. This was one of the best kept secrets in DC and at that time congress worried
about what the people would do if they found out. Well, with more water and events over the dam, it began leaking out and today, with all the problems facing Americans, the mishandling of the SS Trust Fund is common knowledge and people take it with a grain of salt………where is the outrage?

Sooner or later someone, somewhere should know that corporations, entities and individuals cannot do crimes and then bribe congress through heavy lobbying and contributions, make a law after the fact to legalize those crimes, specifically to let the people who committed the crimes off the hook. Such as was done with the telecommunication companies when they spied on people’s phone conversations without their knowledge nor consent, and even those companies agreement with their customers stated in writing that their confidentiality would be kept private. As we speak, congress is in the process of doing that very thing again, ILLEGALLY, to save the butts of the criminal banks and the crimes they committed. Legalizing the banks past criminal activity must not be allowed and this time we had better start applying pressure to all so called elected officials who repeatedly keep selling us and our country down the river.

gop ~ GREEDY OLD PERVERTS

Simpson’s ideas are stupid and he should have been put out to pasture years ago but he’s right when he talks about the extreme’s on the left and the right poisoning the dialogue in this country.

The one glaring imbecility in Mr. Simpson’s small mind is his small mind set. Small minds are for ever focused on “small” issues. Seniors on SS is a relatively non issue when compared to what Mr. Simpson and his colleagues are guilty of.
1) 4 TRILLION DOLLAR ON GOING WARS. 2) Billions in yearly aid to Israel and one or two others. 3) By ommission or commission advocating the outssourcing of American investment into NAFTA and other places. The list of “important” issues that matter is long.

Giving billions away year after year to foreign states ,,,building embassies in foreigm countries that cost $500 million each and then turn around and tell American citizens who pay taxes while they are employed that “THEY WILL NOT BE PAID ANY MORE UN -EMPLOYEMNT INSURANCE BECAUSE THERE IS NO MONEY” AND CLOSE TO 38 MILLION AMERICANS ARE UNEMPLOYED…..as a result of the decision of those who make up the Federal Government policy is far worse than the socalled “greediest generation”.

Does Mr. Simpson suggest that the American senior citizen eat cake if they cannot have bread?

The catfood commission is a good name for these corporate toadies. They finally may undo the New Deal. Republicans have been trying for decades without success.

Pain medication for arthritis may be a good investment if this wacko can force people to work until age 69…chronic pain would be misearable and thanks to medicare I can afford the meds to make it mild !

“they” can pay it and they will if we promise to sit out the next election if they don’t!

Paraphrasing Joseph stalin anent the Pope: “How many divisions does the Pope have?” Now that the Country is back in the hands of the Grand Old Party it would only take some simpson backbone to restore the country to Prosperit. If this involves the abolition of Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and other Depends for obsolete rusty tools then so be it. Private charities, with careful planning, can take up the slack.

It stands to reason that if the robber barons have stolen everything in sight, they didn’t stop short on SS out of respect for us. There’s nothing in there which is the reason why they’re making the racket about it now. Nothing to lose, really, when you’ve got nothing. We’re screwed, big time, major, capital screwed!

As a senior, I feel that I’m frugal compared to the rip-off rates of the super-rich and their corporations.

OMG

Wyoming Republican Alan Simpson should know greedy, he is a conservative. As for Obama making him the co-chair of the “bipartisan” deficit commission just shows once again, Obama should not have ever been president. We would of probably have done better with McCain/Palin and a Democrat Senate and House.

Simpson is a greedy old coot who has lived on the taxpayers’ money for many years. He is an offense to the sensibilities of senior citizens everywhere. Why this KNOWN HATER OF SOCIAL SECURITY was appointed by President Obama to a so-called deficit commission is UNBELIEVABLE. Sad to say!

Grampa Simpson walks into the Social Security office and says: “I’m old, gimme, gimme, gimme….

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i have worked since i was 17 and i am greedy….to the dummy mr. simpson who probably owns 4 cars and and five houses and takes a trip to the Rivera every year or rides in a limo from work to his house….he is the greedy one along with his cronies who want to take money i mean steal money from the baby boomers who have put money into social security all of their life. mr. simpson i live in a 2 bedroom 2 bath apt and take public transportation to work and back,. so while you retire with your millions i can retire with nothing or work untill i am 100/ . you are another greedy lying two faced republican you are mr.simpson

There is a site out there, called (I believe) madeinusaforever.com. Everything they sell there is made in the USA, including the component parts. Like jeans, for instance, which most of us don’t think of as being made here anymore. But they are, and the site will show you through a code on the jeans a site that tells you where each part of those jeans is made. They take you from the farm IN AMERICA where the cotton is grown, to the factory where it’s made into cloth, to the place where they make the jeans themselves. ALL in America.

We do still make some things here, but you do have to search them out. It’s worth the effort.

There is a site out there, called (I believe) madeinusaforever.com. Everything they sell there is made in the USA, including the component parts. Like jeans, for instance, which most of us don’t think of as being made here anymore. But they are, and the site will show you through a code on the jeans a site that tells you where each part of those jeans is made. They take you from the farm IN AMERICA where the cotton is grown, to the factory where it’s made into cloth, to the place where they make the jeans themselves. ALL in America.

We do still make some things here, but you do have to search them out. It’s worth the effort.

Simpson has done us a favor. The extreme statement is out there and can be used to center the solution. Stirring up people on this issue is exactly what the dialog needs. Of course Obama won’t get rid of Simpson. He is too useful, anathema that he is.

[...] The co-chair of President Barack Obama’s bipartisan deficit commission Wyoming Republican Alan Simpson says senior’s are “greediest generation”: Deficit commission’s Simpson calls US seniors the ‘greediest generation’. Wyoming Republican Alan Simpson has a pretty low opinion of the people that have paid into Social Security all their lives and now need something back. The co-chair of President Barack Obama’s bipartisan deficit commission lashed out at seniors Wednesday because they are unhappy with his ideas for reducing the deficit by cutting Social Security benefits while reducing corporate taxes.MORE [...]

Mark my words – Obushbama is going to decimate Social Security and probably Medicare..

The fix is in. Every country in Europe (except maybe Germany) is crying poverty and cutting all programs for the poor and middle class – The UK and Ireland are the worst.
We will be next. The rich get even more filthy rich and the poor just get to die.

http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/david-gergen-uses-irelands-situation-push

Yeah, what a bunch of greedy motherfuckers. Worked all their lives, contributed to social security, raised their kids, paid their taxes, did everything they were expected to do. Goddamn selfish assholes.

Simpson should be taken out and shot, but it would be a waste of a bullet and the time it takes to do it.

Yes, the rich party and defraud the ENTIRE FUCKING WORLD and all over the globe, nations are forcing the poor to pay for it.

Sharpen the guilotenes, it’s coming.

International industries via corrupt politicians keep robbing from social security and any diminishing returns on the tax dollars US citizens put into the government. In other words, this is BS.

The bastards were in Oregon full-swing, helping that asswipe dudley and the bastard that ran against De Fazio. And to you people that own the land along the I-5 from Portland to Salem: can’t you come up with better use for your land than to advertise for the pieces of shit tories and cage fighting? What a waste. Grow something, besides roadside-graffiti.

Alan Simpson is the worst example of human feces alive. Flush the toilet put this pathetic excuse of a human being out of his and our misery. And CERTIANLY get him off the Deficit Commission. It was created to deal with the deficit he and his kind created, not reflect just how DEFICIENT some human beings can be. Bottom dwellers like him should be pilloried and put on display as what raw sewage really looks like.

[...] In one of those ironies of history, the starting point for a left in a time of budget cuts and catfood commissions might be the adoption of a Tea Party cri de coeur that perfectly captures the schizophrenia of [...]

Mr. skyshoes, what you’ve just said… is one of the most insanely idiotic
things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response
were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought.
Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you
no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

I think Raw turned them off to thwart an attack.

But the plan is the opposite of what “civilization” should be doing.. instead of cutting taxes for the richest and telling the masses to bugger off, taxes on the richest, the ones that rig the game in the first place, should be going UP to cover costs of “running the country”.

Of course, the problem is the general public. Just look at how much we pay “professional athletes” to give us something to do on Sunday afternoons. We piss away a LOT of money in this country, and for individual entertainment.. while decrying anything spent on life for others. We’re a really really really sick people in America. Simpson is just the end result of such disease and rot of the soul, he just codifies what the majority of Americans really are.

You work for 45 or 50 years and then when you want to retire in dignity some rectal polyp tells you you’re greedy. “Let them eat beans,” eh Homer?

Probably one of the most overlooked bits of all of this. While our military and Congress folks have THEIR retirement/pensions, most of this country (outside of large corporation’s “management types”) had their pensions DISSOLVED by our government so corporations could “be more profitable”. The “solution” was for people to “put money in 401(k) funds”, which is code for “let them invest it in the casino called Wall Street”.. As long as the corporations did well, 40% of this country “kind of” had retirement accounts.

But that poses two distinct problems. Old people that had their pensions dissolved AFTER the decision was made to have people use the Stock Market as a retirement vehicle (those old people didn’t have a chance to invest because they thought they had PENSIONS coming), they are hosed.. and now we see the second major problem with this concept.. the STOCK MARKET IS RIGGED AND DANGEROUS, some people lost most of their retirement money when the market lost 1/2 of its value over the course of a year. Suddenly what had been enough “to get by” was slashed, drastically.. those people are SCREWED.

I’ve not seen ONE bill come through Congress suggesting no Representative ever get a pension again (nothing forcing them to save in the Market like WE do), nothing suggesting they lose their health care and have to pay for their own insurance (the insurance they have now is insurance, but is fought for by the entire government; none of them buy “their own” out there in the “free market”), and nothing suggesting dissolution of MILITARY PENSIONS.

So, yeah.. we, the people, keep paying for “them” while they tell us to fuck off? .. yet, 40% or more of this country SUPPORTS this abuse by the ruling class. Largely by duping them to vote with their RELIGION, which is the worst part.

Your #6.. to each as they need.. how SOCIALIST of you!

It should read (if you want it to be true tea bagger manure/fertalizer)

6) apply generously to the one or few plants you like, let the rest figure out how to survive on their own. When the few biggest plants you’ve been feeding grow so large as to drown out the light for the remaining plants, just let them die off.. you didn’t like them much anyway!

What hole did u craw out of ?????

The SOB has got his retirement in the bag, to hell with the American People! Obama should run him out of his job on the Commission,and also put him out of Business every were the rest of his life see how he would like it with no income, the jerk!!

Correct, “or raise revenue”. Seeing as how we told corporations they no longer had to honor their pension systems and forced everyone to “put their retirement in the Stock Market” (a scam that helped enrich the corporations, duh?), it seems to me that the way to “solve this” is to start putting OBLIGATION back on CORPORATIONS. If they want to do business here, they PAY FOR THE PRIVILEGE.

The core problem is we’re stuck in Caveman mentalities here. The few running the corporations want it all while telling everyone else to fuck off. And if it’s not bad enough that they live like gods while they are alive, they want to build dynasties by keeping all that wealth “in their family” after they die? Why don’t THEIR kids have to be subjected to the same things the rest of the world faces?

If you want to be a realist, you have to admit that building dynasties creates an inequality among people. You have kids born of privilege that will never know what anyone else goes through in life, and those privileged kids will end up making all the rules from that unrealistic position (we’re seeing that now, with rich kids from rich families becoming Politicians). To prevent that, you prevent dynasties. 90% of everything over $2 or $3 million per child (capped at 2 children) is taken by the public after you DIE and don’t need it any more. Putting the UNUSED money back in the pot for others to be able to EARN.

And there are a LOT of things we could be cutting instead of Social Security.. how about the Defense Budget, for starters.

Typical republican! Need more be said?

A politician calling someone else greedy. That reminds me of a saying that involved a pot, a kettle and the color black…

the f_ng b_lls on this parasite!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Alan Simpson should be stripped of his congressional pension and made to live on Social Security alone. He is nothing more than a pig. But why president Obama would appoint such a pig to a very high visibility, high risk position is outside my ability to comprehend. Obama seems to be a Trojan Horse, rather than the “savior” we were led to believe he was. With few exceptions like Dr. Chu, Obama’s Secretary of Energy, and Elizabeth Warren now heading the Consumer Protection Division of the Dept. of Treasury, Obama has made dreadful choices for his cabinet and administration. One might be forgiven for thinking he has done this on purpose.

again i say … bring out the guillotine!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why would Obomber do that? He likes Simpson, or he wouldn’t have appointed him in the first place.

You are on the mark Scanners. This guy Obomber is a Trojan Horse and will not stop until the last vestiges of the New Deal have been dismantled. He is the Anti-FDR!

You’re right Sdougeid. Amazingly the last great programs of the Hero of our Century, FDR, will have been unraveled by Democratic Presidents (Glass-Steagal by Clinton and Social Security by Obomber). Who’d a thunk it? Just goes to prove that you can’t trust a politician regardless of his stripe.

I disagree with you completely hawkeye. There is no real Left anymore, at least not that you can actually hear, thanks to corporate media. Karl Rove’s greatest accomplishment for the right was to shift the playing field so far to the right that those who used to be complet wingnuts suddenly became respected commentators on Fox News. The real Left fell compeletly off the media radar–ie they were silenced–and in their “place” came the new left represented by the Democratic Leadership Council (the Karl Rove Wing of the Democratic Party). Under the DLC presidents Clinton and Obomber, we see the end of the Social Safety Net, the destruction of Glass-Steagal which put a firewall between our community banks and the freewheeling investment banks like Goldman Sachs, the emergence of NAFTA and “free trade” aggreements which destroyed the labor movement in America, and Health Care “reform” that delivered us lock, stock, and barrel, into the greedy maw of the “health” insurance industry. With Democrats like these, there really is no need for Republicans at all.

The real scandal is that Simpson was appointed to a position on this commision. He has always expressed his desire to destroy Social Security. This commission is now the laughing stock of the country and he is the grotesque figurehead.
I am happy to learn that people are expressing their opinion of him with the same vulgarity he uses himself in addressing citizens he is supposed to represent.

kathleen, you are right on about the political games that have been most responsible for the infirmity of the SS program, and how if left alone Social Security would be in good shape for the foreseeable future. However, you are not correct in stating that the original Social Security was an opt in program. In fact it started as a tax-based. You can read the history of Social Security here:
http://www.ssa.gov/history/briefhistory3.html

You, Johnbis, are such a complete nitwit as to negate the need for a response.

Nice! You should submit that to Rodale Press!

I have not heard the Civil Defense sirens yet. Duck and cover all over again.

They spend a lot of money running a campaign. That idiot ex senator from Oregon, gordy smith, had to raise $20k every morning that he put a foot on the ground to keep his seat, that he eventually lost. And why do they spend millions for a job that pays thousands? And why do they keep increasing their income each and every year?

This is one more example of our congressmen looking at both social security and unemployment as government handouts, when in fact the American people pay into both of these programs as insurance. It’s time we cut the salaries, pensions and medical benefits of these fools!

Where does this guy get off? He’s the son of a U.S. Senator, he went to a STATE SCHOOL for both his undergrad and law degree, his stint in the army was in peacetime in Germany and with the exception of 8 years from 1956 to 1964 he’s been in congress and then retired on a congressional pension plan. What gives him the right to pretend to be some kind of self-made tough guy?

Obama, it’s going to be fun watching your campaign go down in flames come October.

Fire this piece of shit or face the consequences at the ballot box.

Simpson should be made example of and forced to live on his OWN Social Security instead of that cushy government TIT he’s greedily suckling on NOW!!

No, he’s just kissing more Reichwing A**!

WHAT THE HECK is “Extreme” in a world gone Bat-Shit Crazy-Right?
When your ship is listing so badly to the Right it’s getting sucked down its own whirlpool, you jump to the LEFT….. or GO DOWN!

Wasn’t Simpson one of those TOE-TAPPERS!?

Ah yes! The high cost of EMPIRE Maintenance!

…to be paid by the slaves of the Machine, not their owners!

All Repugs are heartless…it’s the only way they could operate.

Sounds to me like you are just one stock market crash or one or two bank closings away from destitution yourself old man. I bet you’re counting on the FDIC to come to your aid in the case of the latter though aren’t you? And I bet you haven’t paid jack squat into that little benevolent big government concept have you?

…more like following Calvin: “If you’re poor you must have been a sinner and deserve it!”

I say, if you are FILTHY-RICH you’ve probably STOLEN most of it, and you should damned-well GIVE IT BACK!!!!

…but oooh!
We can’t call it Class Warfare…that would be so…proletariat!

What an idiot!

Have some Karl Rove Koolaid with your Freedom Fries!

“The Revolution Will NOT be Televised”

…Unless it’s the teabaggers, of course…then Papa Karl and his Armey of Dicks at the MSM will be all over it!

Go stick your head back into whatever hole you just crawled out of, chingo!

Duped, yes. The entire Rightwing Spin machine that is the Media exists for these people alone: the Ignorant Poor.
After all, their real “Base” of filthy rich folks already know which side of their toast the butter’s on…but they don’t have the NUMBERS to win an election, and the SMART Poor are smart enough to vote left, so that only leaves the DUMB Poor to fill out their ranks, and lucky for the GOP, they are all watching FUX and are easily duped!

“I don’t depend on my government for anything.” Oh, yes you do. You’re just either too blind or too ignorant to know it.

You don’t keep you money in your mattress because you believe that the government will be there to bail out the financial industry and the FDIC will be there to come to the rescue when the bank you are using becomes insolvent. You depend on the FAA to make sure that the next flight you take doesn’t crash accidentally into another plane on landing or takeoff. You depend on the SEC to guarantee that all the companies you bet on when you are gambling on scottrade have told the truth about their earnings and their future prospects and that others aren’t lying to you about those companies.

You depend on government bailouts of the financial industry, and those banks “too big to to fail and bailouts of insurance companies like AIG that grease the wheels and provide insurance for the risky deals you bet on, because without big government you would have lost a hell of a lot more than you did in collapse of 2008.

You depend on the police department to keep you safe from thieves and to protect your property. You depend on the court system to prosecute all those who would or have harmed you and you depend on the penitentiary system to incarcerate them and protect you and yours from any possible future crimes that such people might commit. Rich people like you claim to be need this protection more than anyone becuase they have so much more to lose. You also depend on the fire department to come to your house to put out a fire if and when you need them.

The company’s you invest depend upon strict enforcement of patents and other business regulations in order to guarantee that their intellectual property which is what you are really betting on when you buy stock is protected. They also depend on the government taking care of those who would copy or sell knockoffs of their products for a cheaper price. You depend on accurate information and the government regulations that guarantee that accuracy, without it you might as well be betting on the ponies. You depend on the government to assure you that someone hasn’t taped into you phones lines or your bank accounts and taken all your money over night in some kind of computer bank heist, and you depend on the court system to save you in case someone defrauds you of some of that money you have accumulated.

So don’t stand around here claiming that you don’t depend on the government for nothing. I could go on and on, but the point is without the government watching out for you and covering your bets you couldn’t make all that money that you claim to have made betting on companies and their future performance.

In fact, without the blessings bestowed upon you by big government you’d still be working until the day you died and you’d die with nothing more than part of a week’s pay and the bills you owe sitting on the table in your crummy little studio apartment somewhere. Because every step of the way from about 1781 until today the government has made the protections you enjoy as a member of the upper class stronger and stronger, while screwing those beneath you.

All you have shown by your series of posts is that you don’t give a damn how anyone else lives or dies, you will continue to pretend that you are some rugged individualist who has made her or his money without any help from the government. When in fact the government made your wealth accumulation possible, and without it you would be begging for pennies or selling apples on a street corner.

…so WHO’s really the Greedhead here?

Take your ugly reptilian trash-talk somewhere else!

Do you drive on paved roads, send kids to school, use the water, sewer, electrical infrastructure, like having police and firefighters when you need them?

You’re not a troll, you’re a FOOL!

…Ask him what’s been trickling down HIS leg lately!

I always check Goodwill first…that way, even if it was originally made in China, I don’t feel so bad buying it.

How dare anyone be incensed just because we want to ‘… cut Social Security benefits while reducing corporate taxes.’

Without taking too hard a jab at FOX news, that sounds ‘fair & balanced’ to me. NOT!

Some “pressing family business” should take this creature off the commission immediately or I don’t see how its report can be take seriously.

He is of the ELITE. Why doesn’t he give up his fat pension and health insurance for life? Then he may become credible, when he applies for Social Security and Medicare.

You, you, you SUMB*TCH SIMPSON!!! Oh wait, 2070? Oh, that’s ok then. Not so much ok calling U.S. seniors the greediest generation tho…

“why do they spend millions for a job that pays thousands?”

It’s the Power…and the Perks(GOVERNMENT Healthcare, Generous RETIREMENT, etc etc) of course, not to mention the even more lucrative lobbying position later!

Social Security is part of the employment contract. 6.2% is paid into Social Security by the employee and 6.2% is paid by the employer. An additional 1.45% is paid into Medicare. Social Security benefits cannot add to the deficit because Social Security is a “pay as you go” program. Current deductions pay, (with a one year lag dating back to the beginning of the program when deductions were collected before benefits began for retirees,) current retiree benefits. The only reason Social Security is being discussed is because businesses want the 7.65%, period. Everything else is just so much bull. Obviously, Simpson is on the bull side of the equation.

The fact that Simpson remains on the Cat food Commission proves that the Commission is on the bull side of the equation, as well. There is also the possibility that Simpson remains, because it is part of his employment contract.

Social Security is not a gift. The workers and the employers pay for the program. Social Security is part of the employment contract.

The other incentive that leaders are being dishonest about is if Social Security was privatized it would result in a seven to eleven trillion dollar windfall for Wall Street. Therefore, it is understandable that Wall Street should be for it; but it’s difficult to determine why Tea Baggers have antipathy for a program that helps them.

I’m under thirty. Work a 9-5 and profit from crashes. And you, old
one, are exactly who I’m betting to fail. Good work so far. Go blame a
politician not me

I expect nothing from govt and am pleasantly surprised and thankful
for everything it does provide. Only a fool such as u believes they
are entitled to these things

Purple Onion wrote:
Social Security is not a gift. Social Security is part of the employment contract.
I can understand your feeling this way, but the government doesn’t look at your benefits this way.
From a report entitled “Accounting for Social Insurance, Revised, published by the FASAB (the accounting advisor for the federal government)
Page 85 “Social insurance is not an employee benefit. The accounting methods for employee retirement benefits reflect the fact that employees voluntarily echange lower wages during their working years to receive certain future benefits. Such an exchange does not occur with social insurance benefits.”
Page 87 “A nonexchange transaction arises when one party receives value without directly giving or promising value in return. In regards to social insurance benefits the federal government gives value to beneficiaries without receiving value in return. The fact that benefits paid are not based on the amount of taxes paid confirms the nonexchange nature of social insurance.”
http://www.fasab.gov
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Don Levit

How does someone like Simpson continue to represent the people of this country in any way. I believe that he should have his “cushy” salary and pension taken away and be forced to live like the greedy seniors he is mentioning. I like to see him live on $12-14k per year and see how “greedy” he really thinks that it is. He is forgetting that many people lost more than their life savings and others were too busy trying to live from day to day to even have the opportunity to save. I wish that Obama had taken the opportunity to take him off that commission. No more chances for Simpson. Get him out of here… Take us out of his misery!

How does someone like Simpson continue to represent the people of this country in any way. I believe that he should have his “cushy” salary and pension taken away and be forced to live like the greedy seniors he is mentioning. I like to see him live on $12-14k per year and see how “greedy” he really thinks that it is. He is forgetting that many people lost more than their life savings and others were too busy trying to live from day to day to even have the opportunity to save. I wish that Obama had taken the opportunity to take him off that commission. No more chances for Simpson. Get him out of here… Take us out of his misery!

He has lived in elite unreality most of his life with a huge sense of entitlements. He has no clue as to what it means to have to work..We need term limits and campaign finance reform..I do not understand why he wasn’t fired for that comment which shows that he cannot be clear or fair on this issue. ..the only reason that comes to mind is that maybe the Pres is hoping that America will see the repubs for the greedy amoral elite that they are and hopes to give the repubs enough rope to hang themselves in the eyes of the ppl..This man should not be on this commission…he is out of touch and demented…WP

You sir depend on these things, and are utterly surprised when things don’t work out. Sound about right? I, on the other hand, depend on nothing being given to me. I do the math, question things others don’t, and figure things out myself. At no point in my life do I entrust my life to my government. Thats just fucking retarded given government’s precedent in that department.

You have no idea how wrong you are.

I have no accounts, no bank account, no checking account, no investment account, no retirement account, no credit cards no debit card, or other financial entanglements. No car, no truck. no boat, no motorcycle, no house, no condo, no real estate, no property, no medical insurance, no life insurance, no mortgage, who knows what else I don’t have maybe you can fill me in on all the things I don’t have, you seem to have plenty. But I am not depending on the FDIC, or the SEC or government bailouts or unemployment insurance or any other government program or state or local officials to aid me and since I have earned such low wages throughout my life my social security when I finally begin drawing it will be less than $700 dollars a month so I plan to work until I die.

I haven’t seen a doctor in well over twenty years. Nor, because of my experiences with them on those occasions in my life when I actually had health insurance, do I ever want to see another one again before I die. I have no use for a lawyer, accountant, architect or other licensed professional so I have no need to benefit directly or indirectly from a state or other sanctioning body to guarantee that the person serving me is properly credentialed.

I have lived a life of quiet austerity as a way of minimizing my effect on the environment and the world and to ensure that the destruction I participated in in Vietnam was the last such destruction I ever contributed to directly or indirectly.. I possess nothing but the small amount of money in my pocket, the thoughts in my head, some books, some clothes, a laptop, some music, and some films…that’s about it. I don’t eat at restaurants or buy deli foods so I don’t depend on the health department to keep my food safe. I eat mostly organic and I do hope that the government is making sure that what they say is organic is organic but I have no way of knowing that one way or the other.

I am not depending on the FAA, or the highway department, or any other such agency, because I won’t be flying anywhere anytime soon nor using a highway. I hope the bus is on time tomorrow but if it isn’t, I can walk. Nor do I depend on any government agencies to protect my wealth–I have none–or protect me should some accident or other tragedy befall me. I hope that when my time is finally over, I have the quiet dignity to die peacefully without making a fuss of any sort. I don’t want to linger or be saved. I will welcome death.

I have had a couple of the apartments I lived in robbed and in each case the damage to the owner’s property required the intervention of the police for their insurance purposes. I have never had insurance. In those cases, the police were accusatory and did absolutely nothing to get any of what little property I had stolen back while insinuating basically that the robberies were somehow my fault, even though I had very little to steal (in one case my camera was stolen but because I couldn’t supply a receipt for the camera which I had purchased in a PX in Vietnam nearly 20 years earlier, the police acted as if I was making the whole thing up and kept asking me why I thought someone would take the camera) and other apartments were broken into as well. My father committed suicide when I was still in grade school, and my mother went crazy when I was a teenager and I have been on my own since just before I was sixteen. So long ago I learned that I could not count on anything from anyone, and I haven’t.

So you are very wrong about me. Very wrong! Your indirect dependency on government agencies is far more intensive than mine could ever be. And no matter what you say, when you get defrauded by someone you are going to march right into court and sue them, and don’t even try to tell me you won’t. Whereas I have nothing to lose and nothing to gain. No one is going to defraud me except someone I word for and I have had that happen on several occasions but I have always quit when the first paycheck was missed to minimize my losses. And I am actually much freer in a real sense than you are. You are owned by your greed and your fear and your desire and your ambition. I have none of that! I am at peace and my conscience is clear! I am sorry for the damage I contributed to in Vietnam, but I vowed to do no more damage and I have done what I needed to do to keep that vow!

high account you’ve teem with

This post is very usefull thx!

I work at a pharmacy and it is amazing how every time a senior needs a health care related item they ALWAYS want medicare to pay. Everything from a cane tip to a grab bar to drugs to freakin vitamins. free free free. they are very selfish and feel they are entitled for the rest of there days. And yes it includes viagra

I work at a pharmacy and it is amazing how every time a senior needs a health care related item they ALWAYS want medicare to pay. Everything from a cane tip to a grab bar to drugs to freakin vitamins. free free free. they are very selfish and feel they are entitled for the rest of there days. And yes it includes viagra

I work at a pharmacy and it is amazing how every time a senior needs a health care related item they ALWAYS want medicare to pay. Everything from a cane tip to a grab bar to drugs to freakin vitamins. free free free. they are very selfish and feel they are entitled for the rest of there days. And yes it includes viagra

What a terribly malicious and slanderous comment from an ungrateful and certainly unsympathetic person. Do you realize that those senior citizens are simply asking for the money they put into a system and were *promised* would be kept in trust for them? Do you understand that all of the handout programs that *you* Mr. Rogerover12
benefit from are paid for by money *stolen* from those trusts. Yeah, I think we can pay for a few vitamins for those folks. Shame on you!

You Sir, and I use that term lightly in your case, seem to have gone to the same school of Stupidy Mr. Simpson attended!

Casey

You Sir, and I use that term lightly in your case, seem to have gone to the same school of Stupidy Mr. Simpson attended!

Casey