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Bizarro world.

THE TERRORIST AND BARBARIC REGIME OCCUPYING OUR LAND IRAN, Has to go, Not only because of it’s Nuclear danger, Because of the GENOCIDE OF MILLION SOF IRANIANS TAKING PLACE IN IRAN AS WE SPEAK WHILE THE WORLD HAS TURNED IT’S BLINDE EYE ON IT AND
ONLY LIKE TO SEE THE MULLAHS IN POWER WITHOUT NUKE WEAPONS…. THAT IS IT !! THEY DON’T care about IRANIANS GENOCIDE BY THIS TERRORIST REGIME, DO THEY ?!?!?

At last.. in one big undeniable dump — America is exposed. Yet once again. Our government has been trying to hide and suppress it’s dirty shit for decades (See Michael Parenti’s: “Against Empire”) And trust me — what you see in the Wikileaks documents in this roll is, still, merely the TIP OF THE ICEBERG.

America: land of the dirty dealing. America: land of corruption and greed and utter arrogance. I am ashamed of my country. America is going down. And you know what? RIGHTLY SO. Let come what may — I am so GLAD this shitty little country of mine is having its hand forced. This country took a wrong turn many years ago from our government’s murder of JFK / RFK / MLK — to the 911 false flag. Et al.

We if are going to ever survive into mid century the flush needs to happen now. TRUTH and ONLY TRUTH is what we need now if ever we will survive into mid-century. If ever we will heal as a nation it must come with FIRST: OWNING our crap, so that we can recover from it. Continued lies and denial will never get us there. Sadly I sincerely doubt that’ll ever happen. So let come what may. I’d frankly be just as happy to see it all come crashing down than to live, as the country we are — with the festering pus and and distrust of fucking EVERY citizen in the slime of deceit and lies anymore.

Julian Assange is a HERO. Get that NSA? CIA? FBI? DHS? — A TRUE HERO. And YOU are the protectors of LIES and DECEIT.

Yep, the tip of the iceberg.

I couldn’t have said it better Marc. Our government is one of the most corrupt governments
in history.

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Nice try….. not.

No wonder Al – Queda is gaining a strong foot hold in SA. Royalty’s days are numbered.

Can the probable overthrow in SA be alike the one that the Shah experienced?

Basically, we have second hand account emails of ambassadors saying other Arab leaders were calling Iran “evil” and nothing from the leaders themselves. Did the US know that these were to be submitted to Wikileaks?

This kind of leak can seriously damage our foreign policy. We should limit damage to what our diplomats and inept politicians can do. We don’t need to expand it into these kinds of confidential emails.

Those Saudis, gotta love them. Willing to fight their enemies to last drop of our blood. Most of those 911 hijackers were Saudis as I recall. Anybody else think that they were complicit in the attack in order to get us involved in order to do their dirty work?

Absolutely right. That is why we need to stop depending on oil to power our economy.

Time for some of these countries to do their own dirty work.

While I agree with some of your sentiments, I draw the line at wishing us ill. You are acting from emotion and not on logic, common sense, of love for our countrymen.

A lot of this sounds like Sunni vs Shia stuff.

None of this is particularly shocking, but it is very interesting.

WikiLeaks Site Under Attack
The latest WikiLeaks documents dump is expected to be unveiled over several days but it is already under attack according to their Twitter feed.Some major media groups already have these documents and will be publishing. http://www.newslook.com/videos/269677-wikileaks-site-under-attack?autoplay=true

Every one of the September 11 criminals were Saudi Arabian, not Iranian, not Iraqi, and not Afghani. America attacked the wrong country.

We’re all typing here. But what the FUCK are we going to do about it. We cant even collectively change domestic policy bu not flying for a week to cause the TSA to re-consider its direct violation of the Bill of Rights re: unreasonable search and seizure

I love our country and our countrymen –well, at least the ones who are not part in parcel Keeper of the Lies.. from Obama (LIAR extrodinaire) Bush n’ Cheesy ( double LIAR extrodinaires) on down / and on back, virtually every ‘politician Banker, greedy CEO etc) But I also know that in order to recover, be it a person or a country, it is necessary to hit rock bottom first, with many painful truths realized. Whatever it takes and no matter how painful it is to get us there — THAT is what needs to happen. So no, I do not wish the end of America per se. Merely the many many layers of shit and pus that are suffocating us.

“According to the document, Abdullah repeatedly requested that the US attack Iran. Other leaked documents also described how other Arab countries pushed for military action.”

“According to the document, Abdullah repeatedly requested that the US attack Iran. Other leaked documents also described how other Arab countries pushed for military action.”

If it looks like shit, smells like shit and tastes like shit, it must be shit.

And that’s what this is, shit. Now, I’m beginning to see why there is a group of people out there who seriously believe that Julian is being fed bullshit from the US government. If this ain’t proof of it, nothing is.

Oh, yes, please. By all means let’s protect the right of our government and its concubines to rob, rape and pillage at will.

The Saudi Ambassador to the US, Adel al-Jubeir, recalled in April 2008, “[Abdullah] told you [Americans] to cut off the head of the snake.”

and I can guarantee you had McGrumpy and Palin been elected he would have abliged them while singing “bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran” to the the tune of the Beach Boys song “Barbara Ann”

I am not sure it is BS. Saudi Arabian oil would cost mucho bucks.

Ain’t that the shit? We keep selling them all these weapons systems and jet fighters and they want US to attack Iran? How about they get off their oil soaked asses and shed some of their princely blood for a change?

Neither USA nor Zionist entity nor the arabs have to gut to swallow the losses and 25 year war with Iran. Iran fought Iraq who happened to be our proxy at the time. Iran was buying bullets from South African open market for $3 to $5 each, and even then continued to fight. US navy downed their civillian airline as well and participated in air raids, but did not force Iran to give in. Are we going to fight such a nation? Zionist entity will go broke so will US. The arabs will keep selling their oil, and zionist entity will keep getting donations from Jewish people in billions and come back to life may be in another 25 years, but we will suffer.

this so called “leak” is another false flag operation. Who is the beneficiary of such a plan? Didn’t someone in Bush’s admin “leak” information about Uranium from Africa as a pretext to war with Iraq?

I’m sure that U.S. officials explained to the Saudi king that we would never, ever, launch an unprovoked attack on a country that didn’t attack the USA.

boutit–get wise foolish boy!
NO arabs/Muslims took part in the 9/II attacks–that includes Saudies–unless you really beLIEve Ashkenazim Jews are Semites.
Ever heard of a guy bashing a whore when they finished with her–?
FYI: Parent company of FOX News .Saudia Prince is the largest share holder of Rupert Murdick’s empire. Smells–Uibet!
Who told you that Saudias pulled off the 9/11 attacks and King’s family left in secret flight ? Let me guess–Georgie Boy!
9 of the 19 Hi-jokers are Alive Yes Alive and they have started a law suit againist all the major TV networks—because they wouldn’t interview them.
Please stop the Kosherpigsh!t {:^/

Shoemice–Who told you that Saudis took part in the 9/ii attacks?
You’d think after 9 years since the attack and the internet–you’d wise-up–it’s the Israel Firsters.They could only have done it and have the CONNECTIONS and the tons of EXPLOSIVES. Panty.Shoe. Toner bomber–no go but with only box cutters they did the impossable–yah right? Feed some more crap to the general obtuse public– fools abound!
:^(

Good piece Marc– but Julian is a CIA oprative–he thinks 9/II attacks were all done by Arabs-no conspearacy. Notice not a peep of Israel dirty deeds released? Guy is reeling-in fast , you sucker fish!

Isn’t it all CIA propaganda, to get the arabs and Iran fight, get China and north korea fight Japs and south koreans; Pakistan fight Afghanistan and what not. Assange could find only these cables and info, right, what a stupid he is!

Ken–America politicks has ALWAYS been corrupt. Did you know that President Truman’s war on Korea North killed 30% of it’s population by Aerial USA bombings?
I can only think of two-so-so presidents–JFK and Carter–Lucky for Jimmy–he is Alive!

I smell a Israel RAT :^(

More AIPAC Sheep Husbandry
well publicized well controlled

I have spent a while reading the cables with Saudi tags, and even though it has seemed for some time that Saudi Arabian and American policy was coordinated, this puts to rest any doubts. Although, it seems that the King is doing more of the setting of policy than the other way around.

The Saudi royalty is politically and ideologically comparable to the Taliban. They are dictators in one of the most oppressive regimes in the world, and they are setting US policy? Imagine if the US was subservient to the wishes of Mullah Muhammad Omar?

The Iraq invasion and occupation was one of the biggest financial windfalls in history to the Saudi royal family, and war with Iran would be a repeat. They must jizz themselves at the thought of $300 a barrel oil, and the fact that their position on attacking Iran has been parroted by so many US politicians should be considered a crime. Then again, their position is also the position of ExxonMobil and BP, so I guess it shouldn’t be that surprising.

I guess a lot of us already knew this, it’s great to see the actual words spoken in print rather than just speculating.

OMG. This means that republican foreign policy stances are actually being orchestrated by the Saudis! Why else does every single Republican repeat what Saudi Arabia wants?

This should be a real eye opener for people. And it should show Obama’s foreign policy in a far different light. I think the republicans better rethink their stubbornness on START, or people will REALLY question their patriotism and whether they are doing the bidding of foreign countries.

The beneficiary should be Obama in this sense only: we see to what extent Bush/Cheney and McCain and Bill Krystol etc. take their marching orders from the Saudis on policy.

And Obama doesn’t.

You’re obviously a bit of a nutcake.

Uh-huh. People like you do abound.

The fear of that has obviously been driving their policy–and our Republicans’ policies, too.

How easy it is to call this “american” policy and try to lump Obama and Bush together.

I don’t think so.

It’s not always a conspiracy or false flag op. Almost all Arab countries in the Middle East hate Iran, much more than they “hate” Israel. It’s the Suni / Shia split plus the fact that Iranians are Persians, not Arabs, and want to be the most powerful Muslim nation in the world. Arabs hate this and along with Israel want the US to do something about it. NOBODY except Iran wants a nuclear Iran. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Just say NO! They can do their own “wet work” for a change.

Just so!

Frank, you could be right. The beneficiary of all this could very well be the oligarchs, the power elite, who stand to make mega bucks from a nuclear conflagration, and they’d have such fun doing it too.

“Uranium from Africa as a pretext to war with Iraq” – wasn’t that the yellow cake affair that precipitated the dismantling of Valerie Plame’s network of front businesses that served as “watching” stations to monitor the flow and movement of nuclear materials?

Oh MYMY! Do you really think that Obama is not working for the neocon/neolib oligarchs?

Go to http://www.opensecrets.org/ to learn who and what funds whom. All of the politicians work for the same guys.

Its too late. I already question their patriotism and they have been found wanting

Maybe this is the real reason why Iran wants nukes ASAP. As a deterrent not only from Israel but from the Saudi’s and rest of the middle-east.

Maybe it’s about time to the US (and other sane nations) to sever ALL ties to that region and get it’s oil elsewhere (or kick it all together) if they don’t want to be facing a future war.

I visited the site but found quite distinctive profiles for the two different parties, and nothing about Saudi funding of either. I understand the Saudis own a chunk of Fox / NewsCorp but I may be looking in the wrong places on the site.

I saw a number of unions and human rights groups contributing exclusively to Democrats while the Koch Brothers and Club for Growth were exclusively for Republicans on the charts.

I’m not at all sure then what you mean by saying that they are all neocons / neolibs.

Most of this pawn’s leaks are supposedly diplomatic wires and info to US government, BUT HOW DID HE FIND THE INTENT OF ARAB RULERS?

He is just a small pawn in the CIA hands to create trouble between arabs and Iran. It is the same pamphalets that made Hitler attack Russia.

Jeez, is the CIA subcontracting out blogging work to 8th graders now ?

Notice how someone is a “King” when they are an official ally, and a “Dictator” when they are an official enemy ?

Despite being a Sunni who strongly supports the arabs in their causes……..I find the actions of the Gulf monarchies to be unacceptable. They are traitors to their own people and to everybody around them. They are misusing the wealth of their people to maintain their tenuous grip on power and to expand their sphere of influence in the region. Their Kings and princes have been playing a double game with anybody and everybody for far too long….its about time that the people of their lands overthrew them and took back what is rightfully theirs.

couldn’t agree with you more. If its not the Israelis or oil or corporate america, its the monarchies that Americans are fighting and dying for. I can’t think of a single conflict in recent history where Americans actually fought for something that mattered to ordinary Americans. Let these corrupt princes use the billions in arms they’re purchased for exactly this purpose….what did they want to do with it? Hold photo ops and run that crap on national tv to show how strong the monarchy is while they actually cower in their palaces in Spain and foreigners fight their battles?

I generally agree with you that Wikileaks is suspicious…but its an open secret that the Gulf Monarchies want the US to arrack Iran….you don’t need Wikileaks to tell you that…..they just reconfirmed what we already knew to be true…..and this is coming from a proud Sunni Muslim.

So, Bush’s invasion of Iraq in 2003 made us all safer? How? And it helped stabilize that region, establishing in Iraq a representative democracy with strong constitutional protections for one and all, observed by one and all in Iraq, to act as a counterbalance to Iran next door? Bwahahahaha.

I hope some of the subsequent Wikileaks-released cables go back to this infamous period, especially any cables sent between the Bush White House and Bremer’s Coalition Provisional Authority (CPA) in Baghdad, setup after the ill-conceived and criminally-executed invasion.

1) Bremer’s kicking all the Sunni Baathists out of the Iraqi government, crumbling the Iraqi security infrastructure, threw open the door to Iran infiltrating and gaining influence inside Iraq, while also igniting the Sunni Baathist-led insurgency inside Iraq, increasing the number of U.S. and “coalition of the willing” forces killed (along with so many Iraqis caught in the cross-fire).

2) Within weeks after the March 2003 invasion of Iraq, close to a hundred Iranian Hezbollah agents were reportedly seen on the ground in southern Iraq at Shiite holy sites/cities.

3) While the Bush administration was securing the Oil Ministry building in Baghdad shortly after invasion forces reached Baghdad (and not securing any other Iraqi government buildings), Bush/Cheney-favorite Ahmed Chalabi, the Iraqi exile who’d spent years in exile in Iran, was securing the Iraqi intelligence ministry, stealing as many Iraqi intelligence documents as possible, for two purposes: a) identifying all Iraqis (primarily Sunni Baathists) in Saddam Hussein’s internal security forces, and b) identifying any Iraqi agents or sympathizers working undercover in Iran, who might be keeping an eye on Iran’s nuke aspirations, with the goal of eliminating them all.

4) At the same time all this was happening in mid-2003, the Bush administration outed the identity of covert CIA agent Valerie Plame Wilson, who as a CIA counter-proliferation officer working undercover, was charged with keeping an eye on Iran’s nuke aspirations, too, as well as any other country’s WMD aspirations in that region.

So, the invasion of Iraq and removal of Saddam Hussein and the Sunni Baathists from power was the worst foreign policy ever made by any U.S. president, literally rolling out the blood-soaked red carpet for Iranian aspriations, and power-grabbing, in that region around the Persian Gulf.

This also helps explain these Wikileaks-released cables, and so many nations in this region issuing “hair on fire” warnings about Iran’s growing strength, something that would have been muted or not have occurred at all if Iraq had not been invaded, without U.N. authority, without any official U.S. Congress war declaration.

The Arabs want the US to do its bidding. Isn’t that ducky. The Saudis have a lot of gall, especially since we should know by now that they are running out of oil, and running out faster than anyone wants to believe. The Royal Families will let their people starve rather than give up some of their wealth, knowing that it’s all downhill from here.

…Actually, in the US, it’s the super-wealthy who will do exactly what the Saudi family will do: let the people starve before they will give up a portion of their wealth. It will happen here.

Look there’s something very fishy about this wiki dude. Very convenient as well. Jesus fuggin-christ I get the feeling we get are getting HOSED at every turn. It is unbelievable, like a fucking avalanche or something.
Anyway I already felt like there was, like I said, something goofy about this wiki kid and then I stumbled on this the other night…I do not know if this Emory guy is right or wrong but I know from occasionaly listening to his radio show, it’s on every now and then here in LA, that it sure seems like he does really thorough research.
http://spitfirelist.com/for-the-record/ftr-725-leak-this-wiki-spooks-and-the-world-of-stieg-larsson/

Re: lawsuit against TV networks by 9 Saudis: source please.

Major General Amos Yadlin, Israeli’s military intelligence chief, warned last year: “Israel is not in a position to underestimate Iran and be surprised like the US was on 11 September 2001.”

The U.S. WASN’T surprised on 9/11–and as Israel’s military intelligence chief, he probably knows that.

If you AHabs had any balls, you’d come and try to attack on your own, instead of trying to get US to do your dirty work. You AHabs need to go back to your camels, deserts and multiple wives…and this is coming from a proud Persian.

Wow, Saudi King wanted to put nuke pressure on Iran. Scoop of the year. Inflames Suadi Iranian relations. Should be good for the Middle East. Thanks Assange.

Assange is just another CIA man.

QUESTION FOR THOSE WHO BELIEVE OTHERWISE:-

In these 5 years he did not get one piece to embarras Israel, why?

BECAUSE CIA DOES NOT WANT TO LEAK THOSE CABLES AND INFO!

Isn’t it Mr Assange?

Do you prefer truth or fiction? I prefer truth, and I would be the last to ever pity that awful Suadi regime. Yes, thank you very mush Assange and of course to a good soldier who understood his oath perfectly; the world will be forever in your debt regardless of the consequences of the truth being known.

People who believe that it was not the Taliban that were responcible for th 911 attack are just Dumb plain and simple Ahmedinajad, is a loon and Iran a thret to world stability If you lived in Iran you would know. So am not shocked The Saudis, Egyptians, Bahrain UAE Jordanians want to stop him and if you cannot see past your Juvenile sense of conspiracy and Childish rebellion toward the Establishment I am telling you now YOU ARE A GULLIBLE FOOL and your enemies will Enjoy their easy victory, in clossing, think of Hitler, against a devided Europe whose citizenry think Nazism is a coinede up term by their own “EVIL” governments.

Asking the US military to take out Iran would be a win-win situation for the Saudis.

First, the bombing of Iran would almost certainly close the strait where most of the world’s oil comes through. Oil prices would probably double, maybe triple, which would double or triple the income of Saudi Arabia.

Secondly, having Iran at war would mean a major world producer of oil would be focused on waging war and not on drilling for oil. Less competition for the Saudis.

Of course, there is always that nagging issue of unintended consequences that always crops up when a war is started for no good reason. McCain and Palin might not understand this, or even care, but a war with Iran is not like the Israelis bombing an unarmed Gaza.

“In June 2009, Israel Defense Minister Ehud Barak estimated that there was a window “between six and 18 months from now in which stopping Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons might still be viable,” one cable claimed.

After that window, “any military solution would result in unacceptable collateral damage,” Barak said.

So, there are some cables from Israel? But nothing incriminating, of course. Just the poor little Israelis trying to defend their homeland. And that 18-month window isn’t up until December.

You are not the only one who thinks so, Syed. It’s just that everyone thinks this is so great, they’ve failed to notice this fact.

Or an unsuspecting and unprepared USS Liberty. Since that happened in 1967, there should be some real juicy cables about that. But I’ll bet those were somehow not included in the cables given to Assange, so we’ll never see them.

You are correct. The Arab governments are all despotic and in all but a few their people are suffering. This is a good reason to tell your citizens that Israel is the problem in the middle east, not the Arab countries who suppress their own citizens.

Given the billions and billions of $$$ in advanced weaponry we have given Egypt, Saudi and other countries there, why don’t they take Iran out themselves?

And as usual, guess who benefits from the ‘leaks’ :Israel says WikiLeaks vindicates its Iran focus
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6AS1K420101129

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6AS1K420101129

Dear Geo: Given that you are correct, this does not negate the fact that the American official line is that all the hijackers were Saudi. So Bush and Company use this “fact” as a pretext to attack Iraq and this makes sense to a majority of United States citizens?

Wikileaks:

1. China is bad
2. North Korea is bad
3. Iran is bad
4. Saudi Arabia is bad
5. Pakistan is bad
6. Israel was right all along

That’s because the CIA and Mossad helped engineer and execute 9/11. No surprise indeed.

Deliberate or not, the corporate media sure is having a feeding frenzy over this one. The NYT did like a 10-page article on this today. Of course, you realize that this only goes to support Israel’s madness.

And if you Teabaggers have any of them teabags, you’d go over there and try to take them yourselves. There ain’t much glory in not putting your balls where your mouth is, you know?

Now, back to Alabama. The Grand Puba just called in an emergency meeting of the KKK at 9 a.m. Giddy up or you’ll be late. And don’t forget to pick up your white robe and pointy hood from the drycleaners on your way.

What makes you think there were any real hijackers?

Prior to Operation Cast Lead, an effective Truce with Hamas was in place for 6 months. The IDF acknowledged Hamas was seeking out and arresting those splinter groups not under Hamas control attempting to fire those puny home made rockets into Israel.

On November 5, 2008 Israel sent helicopter gunships into Gaza destroying a tunnel bring goods into Gaza effectively breaking the truce. Those splinter groups then started firing missiles into Israel again. This was the trigger Israel needed to start Operation Cast Lead.

Even though Hamas attempted to renew the Truce as late as December when the war started, Israel refused. These cables do not give the date for these this,

6. (C) Barak made clear in these meetings that he feels the Palestinian Authority is weak and lacks self-confidence, and that Gen. Dayton’s training helps bolster confidence. He explained that the GOI had consulted with Egypt and Fatah prior to Operation Cast Lead, asking if they were willing to assume control of Gaza once Israel defeated Hamas. Not surprisingly, Barak said, the GOI received negative answers from both. He stressed the importance of continued consultations with both Egypt and Fatah — as well as the NGO community — regarding Gaza reconstruction, and to avoid publicly linking any resolution in Gaza to the release of kidnapped IDF soldier Gilad Shalit.

but to my mind, this shows Israel was already planning Operation Cast Lead before the war, and maybe before the November 5, 2008 Israeli incursion into Gaza breaking the effective Truce with Hamas.

Oh, yes! And the corporate media is having a piss contest over this one. And Israel must creaming in their Yamulkas.

If you have a pitbull and somebody breaks into your house and tries to rob you, would you try to bite their leg yourself?

This “leak can seriously damage our foreign policy”. You must be referring to the US foreign policy of brutality, torture, illegal invasion and occupation, war crimes, genocide and mass murder. I certainly hope it’s damaged. The greater the damage the better I will feel.

Those were probably shredded by the CIA, along with the Guantanamo torture memos and videos

Is that Emory, as in Emory University in ATL? If so, you should know that Emory is just another subsidiary of Israel. For whatever that’s worth.

Shhhh…you think too much. We like our proles nice and stupid. It’s easier that way.

One correction, I don’t think their people have any wealth. They should but don’t. Great post!

Excellent example!

“One of the problems, surely, is that victims never forget, and the winners do. And they forget very quickly. If people knew basically, for example, what we had done in Iran when we ousted Mosaddeq through the CIA and the Secret Service here across the way and installed the Shah and trained his ghastly secret police force in all the black arts, the SAVAC, if people understood the extent to which we had humiliated Iran, then they would understand the later developments in Iran and Iran’s posture now. If people would look at the map and see the extent to which Iran is encircled by nuclear powers, they wouldn’t take it perhaps quite so seriously that Iran is seeking to arm itself with—if it is—with nuclear weapons.” John le Carré

Me too! But the guys on the local “sports talk” radio station don’t seem to know anything about all this somehow.

Because I live in the real world where facts and figures count.

The “Real World” created by the Pentagon, Bush/Cheney Régime, the CIA controlled MSM and now Obama? All the evidence of real hijackers comes from the US government and the totally fraudulent 911/ Commission Report. I don’t know absolutely if there were hijackers or not nor can you (If so they were most likely patsies). However, after many years of serious 9/11 study, I have concluded to a very high degree of certitude that the “Official” Government 9/11 Conspiracy Theory is a fantasy and is totally refuted on multiple levels by the actual facts and the science. WTC1 and WTC2 were certainly NOT destroyed by airliners (or whatever hit the buildings) but by internal demolition charges. WTC7 was hit by nothing yet collapsed at free fall acceleration at 5:20 pm on 9/11. Again demolition with pre-planted explosives and perhaps nano-thermate. There was no evidence of a 757 crash (AA 77) at the Pentagon. No luggage, bodies, large structural parts, landing gear or engines. The initial damage was not compatible with the official version as reported on 9/11 by the MSM. The FBI confiscated all area security tapes as have refused to release them. Why? is the obvious question.

So minimally the US government, with MSM complicity, is guilty of a massive cover-up and outright fraud. Personally, I believe 9/11 was a military operation engineered and executed by members of the US armed forces, CIA and Mossad. A military coup d’etat by a clique of evil and insane criminals. That’s speculative on my part but the science that puts the lie to the official 9/11 mythology is irrefutable.

In summary what I really meant in my one line comment was that everyone needs to question the pronouncements of our government. Nothing they assert about anything should be believed without extreme skepticism.

So visit http://www.ae911truth.org/ and study up. This is serious and sober science based investigation by professional architects & engineers.

Cui bono?

http://www.haaretz.com/blogs/mess-report/wikileaks-expose-makes-it-clear-everybody-hates-iran-1.327523

Yup they’re walking around with boners.

The arabs are just pussies. They want Iran taken out but don’t want to be seen as attacking their muslim brothers. Let the Americans or Israelis solve our problem for us then we can go on being hypocrites.

No It’s some guy out of NoCal, I think.
His name is Dave Emory and he has rather assidously tracked the the underground (and well now days not so underground) fascists, not the obvious goosestepping kind, the more insidious manifestations in government and the ruling class.

most of us are aware of what a stupid idea it would be to attack Iran. That would be likely to be the reason for the secrecy. I think wikileaks is a hero, and what they are revealing is who should be prosecuted and who has kept secrets against the American people. No doubt the Saudi king believes that he can manipulate the Americans, because they only deal with those they have bought through the Carlyle group, and now through corporate campaign donations. These are not issues wikileaks should be prosecuted for. It is something corrupt American politicians and diplomats should be prosecuted for. The evidence is now on the table. Do not attack the messenger.

After I commented, I used the link and visited the site. Need to go back there with more time to look around. Thanks for posting the link.

I’m not going to argue with you there. They all leave much to desire. And the way they have turned their backs on the Palestinians is shameful.

I made a brief incursion into Ha’aretz this morning and saw that. Wanted to read more but got kicked out – damn Mossad must be at it again. He he…

our good friends and allies, the vicious fahd saudi royals… one of these days they’ll have to pay the piper for their treachery to their own people.

You do realize that speaking like an offensive prick doesn’t win any people to your side of what seems like a pathetic attempt at an argument.

“and this is coming from a proud Persian.”

Really….please point out Persia to me on a map…..its Iran you shmuck and you can get over that proud persian culture bullshit bcs there is no persia and your country (Iran) is a backward shit-hole. And besides….where did I say I was an arab? You went off on a racist rant without realizing the guy you think is an arab is not an arab.

Though this isn’t a link to the lawsuit…its from RT and states that 10 of the hijackers are alive and well

http://rt.com/usa/news/911-reasons-conspiracy/

Nice to see the comments of those guys who complain about the fact that those leaks are helping Israel’s agenda. I also see the usual ideas that since those leaks are helping Israel stance so they probably orchestrated by Israel… don’t let the reality hold you down folks, keep on wasting your time. If you will need to look at the reality in the face you will need to agree to too much (like the fact that the Arabs including the Iranians don’t give a damn about the Palestinians and that they are just pawns in the game and they have always been). and then what will you do? god forbid Arabs and Palestinians will need to agree to some peace agreement with Israel one day what will they do after that day will come ? live in peace? Besides the Palestinians all the rest of the Arab nations leaders in the last 60 years are praising Allah for creating the Israeli state so they can use it in their leadership games. same goes in this current example when Arabs will be happy to get Israel to deal with Iran and then blame Israel, maybe even help Iran to fight Israel (now that the nukes are gone from Iran why not?).

“As a proud Persian, and someone who is totally opposed to my country’s (Iran) theocratic government, I can only say: FUCK ALL ARABS WORLDWIDE. It’s their fucking barbaric religion that has ruined my beloved Iran, and now is trying to ruin the rest of the world. All the Arabs need to just go back to their deserts and fuck their camels and multiple wives…”

Right….and you’re enlightened, tolerant, civilized and not bigoted in the slightest. If people like you had control over Iran…….

LOL!!

this fat bastard has already received his reward… a heart infested with the worms of his good works.

Words of The Supreme Allied Commander,

Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations.

This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence — economic, political, even spiritual — is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.

Akin to, and largely responsible for the sweeping changes in our industrial-military posture, has been the technological revolution during recent decades.

In this revolution, research has become central; it also becomes more formalized, complex, and costly. A steadily increasing share is conducted for, by, or at the direction of, the Federal government.

Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers.

The prospect of domination of the nation’s scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present

Military-Industrial Complex Speech, Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1961

http://www.h-net.org/~hst306/documents/indust.html

Fuck you AHab…

Any time you want to be pushed to achieve your goals, Make sure that persons all around you know about your own self development goals so that there’s plenty of public power on you all the time. Reporting to them would definitely make you think again about letting go of your goal setting.

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