Here’s more on Chomsky being interviewed in some depth from earlier this month…
Chomsky on US Global Policy
Celebrated linguist and cultural thinker Noam Chomsky sits down to discuss US foreign policy – past, present, and future. http://www.newslook.com/videos/268324-chomsky-on-us-global-policy?autoplay=true

OK that really does make a lot of sense dude.

http://www.real-privacy.edu.tc

Maturity is when people discover through reading and reasoning that the United States is the most imperialistic nation on earth. America loves denuclearization as long as WE retain nukes. We are classic hypocrites,lying weasels led by the puppet Obama, stooge of Soros and the monied interests in banks and the MI complex. Chomsky hits the nail right on the head. Love America, but realize its huge faults and lying ways. Our leadership comprises elitists who care zero about this country. Beware the country that banishes the pledge of allegiance, the Lord’s prayer, the overt love a person should have for this country, but cannot. We have come a long way, but we are dishonest and rotten to the core.

No, Mr.Chomsky…not all Americans hate Democracy….just the Corporate controlled GOP right-wing nut-bags living in America, hate Democracy…its a death struggle, a generational fight between Democracy loving left-wing liberals and Democracy hating right-wing Corporations and their minions

America… home of the demonic. land of the living dead. destroyed by atheist jews.

Some Americans still believe in pushing for American progress toward democracy. But the laws are against us.

No, just rich, old white corporate racists.

I have to wonder if it will ultimately be wikileaks that wakes up the American people to the true nature of our government. Wikileaks could ultimately be the next “Common Sense (by Thomas Paine)” that sparks a revolution or at least a huge reform of our government.

Take your anti-Semitism elsewhere, we don’t want to hear about it here. I am sure storm front is looking for some more goons.

“one of the major reasons for government secrecy is to protect the government from its own population”

Beautiful.

You’ve got your puppets and stooges wrong. Otherwise, youre right on.

This has been going on since the early 20th century. Look to the Bush family, circa WWI

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What would happen if Mr. and Mrs. Potato Head ever knew the truth? Maybe a revolution… or not.

First Chomsky doesn’t claim that American’s hate democracy he speaks of America’s, that is, the foreign policy apparatus within the American government’s, hatred for democracy, which is a point I stressed in a post I made yesterday. The fact is that we have overthrown numerous democratically elected regimes from Mossadeigh in Iran in 1953 to Allende in Chile twenty years later in 1973. Mostly we only support elections in foreign countries that elect the people we want elected. If our candidates don’t win, or if people unfriendly to us win, such as Ahmadinejad in Iran, we take action in one way or another. I can’t believe that the recent election that placed him in the Presidency was any more rigged than the Supreme Court appointment an the election of 2004 that put Bush in the White House!

One of the things that confuses so many people, especially Americans is the disconnect in our government between the foreign and domestic policy branches. As one of my favorite authors, Michael Parenti, demonstrated in a little read book called “Against Empire” (1995), there are two tracks to our government. There is the foreign policy track which has a fairly sustained continuity that really changes very little regardless of which party is in power. And that is what we saw during the Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson and Nixon trajectory–the fight against the “communists” was unrelenting no matter what party occupied the White House. And we are seeing that same thing again as Obama bascially continues the Bush policies that so many of us find so repugnan, including the Afghanistan war and the War in Iraq, Guantanimo Bay, the unwillingness to try terror suspects, and the continued process of rendition that was basically implemented under Clinton, etc.

According to Parenti this series of events is a result of the fact that the President doesn’t really control foreign policy, he simply presides over it. Domestic policy is a little different and it is here that which party is in power can make a difference, for instance if the Democrats had a 62 or 63 seat majority in the Senate we would have an unemployment extension today. Unfortunately, the foreign policy apparatus is much stronger than the domestic policy apparatus and so the money always goes to “defense” first an the domestic programs get whatever is left over and lately there has been anything left over. The forces for empire have prevailed consistently since 9-11.

Yeah, I sure hate democracy, ever since I learned from Wikileaks that Berlosconi is a playa and that half the world thinks that Ahmidinejad is a wackjob.

Leave it to an ignoramus like yourself to only acknowledge the tabloid-esque aspects of the dump. There is much more to it than that.

Well, wake me up when something important gets released.

This is revolutionary.

Julian Assange is the Thomas Paine of our era.

Paine wrote of the “Common Sense” of breaking with monarchy and condemned the concept of monarchy. Assange has laid bare the concept of sovereign privilege, that government can act without accountability to its citizens.

State secrets are state lies. End the lies.

Hate to say it, but it shows pretty damned well how America regards the rest of the world. Rather than pushing peace n’ freed’m, handing out money to everyone as the teabaggers seem to think, it’s a big, swaggering bully that sneers at everyone else. Getting countries to spy and work against each other, while pretending to be friends.

Hardly surprising that no country mentions Israel as being a problem – you don’t tell a bully what they don’t want to hear. You tell the bully what he wants to hear – that the _real_ problem is Iran. And since our stooge is in power in most Arab dictatorships, where’s the surprise that they say what’s most welcome to the US? After all, look at what happens when our stooge fails to follow orders even briefly.

No one wants to bring America down more than Americans! Naom Chomsky, Bob Woodward. Maybe that’s what being an American means.

Atheist Jews – bit of a contradiction there, race or religion? Semite, really doesn’t means Jewish, it pertains to a language type, many people who aren’t Jewish are semite, the Palestinians are for sure, probably the house of Saud and many locals of a diverse root. Plus the word Jew wasn’t coined until around the middle of the 19th century, certainly no mention in the KJB (Ist edition) – so what are you really talking about, or is that hate in your pants?

98% of the documents that are “classified” are done so with the express intent of keeping the documents secret from the American electorate/taxpayer. Bill Clinton did more damage to the US by signing the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act (GLB), also known as the Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999, and the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000 than al Qaeda could ever hope to. And his neocon wife – who voted to empower George W. Bush to invade Iraq – is busily working to ensure the charade continues.

Let us pray that there will never be a Stinky leak from Swiss banks disclosing the names of the 50 thousand account holders with deposits of more than 10 million. God in his infinite mercy would never allow that information to be made public.

And indisputable . . .

“…one of the major reasons for government secrecy is to protect the government from its own population.” – from the article.
This is exactly why the government is screaming about the leaks, and why they are pinning it on some low level nobody.

The headline is misleading. Chomsky isnt saying Americans are anti-democratic but the so called elected representatives and the non-elected diplomats and ambassadors are as they are making all these decisions without consent of the salus populi which they are supposed to represent.

Semite [Shemite] comes from the name Shem, one of Noahs sons.

The man behind the curtain in every nation is being revealed and the Governments worlwide don’t like it.

People such as Noam Chomsky, Julian Assange, Daniel Ellsburg, should be cherished and honored among the people of the world. The folks who think for themselves and aren’t propaganda – believing- sheep already know this. It is the duty of the enlightened to enlighten the sheep .

If you read the above article, apparently Chomsky says that there will be some startling revelations about Russia.

Depends on how one defines democracy. The preferred version by Washington pros is to call any country that lets people vote in elections a true democracy. Sadly, this doesn’t actually fit the bill. An informed populace, transparent leadership, and an independent judiciary are necessary for a democracy that can sustain itself. On those rare occasions when such a thing is in danger of happening somewhere with valuable resources…the US and others move swiftly to put a stop to it.

Why do they do this? Frankly, as crass as it sounds, its easier and cheaper to bribe a solitary dictator or a military junta than it is to negotiate with a freely elected multiparty legislative body. Bribing hundreds of people is costly and complicated…so dictatorships are the favored government of the West. (Noriega, Pinochet, Shah of Iran, Saddam Hussein, etc ad infinitum)

I think Noam may be oversimplifying things…since the cables aren’t as much about hatred of democracy per se as they are about hatred of transparency and an informed populace. It amounts to the same thing in the end though…so I will forebear.

Mr. Chomsky should have received the Nobel Peace Prize rather than President Obama who seems to be Bush III.

They wanted the computer revolution, and they are stuck with it now.

Blowback…

Inevitable…

Majority Report: WikiLeaks, U.S. Reaps What It Sows

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbJJQhN983A

Posted on YouTube: November 29, 2010

Hope springs eternal! Ever hear that old rhythm and blues tune, the Animals recorded it in about ’65 or ’66 I think, it was on an album entitled “Animalisms”. Anyway, I can’t remember who wrote it, I think it was Joe Tex, but the title is self-explanatory–”One Monkey Don’t Stop No Show”!

As for waking up the American people, given that half of them still don’t know the Republicans took back the House in the election on November 2nd, I think you are putting a lot of hope on what is going to take a major catastrophe. I would actually bet that a greater percentage of the American population in Thomas Paine’s time were more engaged in the day-to-day affairs of the nation than they are today.

Bring it on…….

And to think I wondered why the current administration would allow the defeat of net neutrality…..

“We should understand that the Pentagon Papers is another case in point that one of the major reasons for government secrecy is to protect the government from its own population,”

Absolutely 2000% correct because the American Government and the American People are separate entities. The American Government does not serve nor represents the American People’ will who are held hostage against their free will by the feudalistic corporate government war lords.

Do people understand the difference between the American people and America’s governing foreign policy ideology? I am an American person, but I have little or no control over what America does in Chile or Afghanistan or even in America, generally. Hell I can’t even get a Senator’s aid to answer a phone today! Chomsky is talking about policy not people! What part of that is so hard for some people here who seem to be rational on some levels to understand?

In a democracy the people are blamed for the iniquities of its government – after all did they not freely elect to their representatives? Not really fair is it – after all the ‘goon’-ery thats present during the process?

What Obama says is just a smokescreen. Everything he actually does continues and/or “completes” the Bush/Cheney regime agenda.

Indeed. As for Eric Holder, I propose awarding him the Hypocrite of the Millennium award for wanting to prosecute Wikileaks but not the Cheney-Bush Mass Murder Incorporated team. Bush III? Hitler II? Take your pick.

Quote for the day:

George H.W. Bush was the most experienced and best qualifed president in my lifetime, and I have a great deal of respect for James Baker.
—- Jimmy Carter, 2010

http://thedianerehmshow.org/shows/2010-11-30/president-jimmy-carter-white-house-diary

Congrats to Chomsky, he’s finally starting to say stuff which could lose him his tenured position, so I’m guessing he must already be retired now?

And he’s obviously read the cables released so far, as that was exactly my conclusion. Anyone who reads Hillary’s stuff and still doesn’t realize she’s a psycho anti-democracy wackjob is sorely missing some neurons.

Where’s Dumber?

You asked for it. You got it. Wikileaks.

That’s not hypocritical of Holder….he’s always been that way.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Mr and Mrs Potatohead think Sarah Palin is a genius.

Yup, poor old Bradley Birkenfeld, former UBS banker, should have gone to Assange, instead of the feds at the US Treasury, where they promptly started prosecution of him, so that he now resides in a federal penitentiary in Pennsylvania, USA.

And Bradley could have brought down the McCains, and their campaign advisors for their accounts in Lichtenstein, and the Clintons and their campaign people, with their accounts in Lichtenstein, and Obama’s campaign advisors, for their accounts at Lichtenstein.

It’s a small, small world after all…..

But too long for a bumper sticker–or the attention span of the average American.

Perhaps like Victor Bout, imprisoned arms dealer, who supplied the Pentagon and many others with arms for years, but when he started to cut into their profits, he had to be arrested.

Naaaah…Mr. and Ms. Potatohead believe they can still manage to get over on everyone and make their very own fortune, perhaps in CDOs on imported scooters.

Either we think eerily alike or you’ve “borrowed” my Thomas Paine comparison.

That’s right Noam. America, with 5 hours of TV everyday for every citizen, can’t tolerate truth or honest leaders. We are happiest when lied to. We get the government we deserve and please remember what TJ (Thomas Jefferson) said: The success of democracy depends on an informed and educated citizenry. It’s all over but for the formal implementation of “order.” Aren’t we happy that we are being kept “safe?”

You wondered why because you (and I) were sold a box of crap as something we could believe in.

Chomsky realised that he had to adapt. Thats all. He’s still a ZIOtool.

Please place in the Holder file that NOT ONE PERSON who was involved in the fraudulent racketeering packaging of the mortgage backed securities 2005-2008 has been either investigated or indicted. Under Geithner’s protection no doubt.

As long as it doesn’t interfere with “Dancing with the Stars.”

And very sad. And anyone who doesn’t realize that TSA and Homeland Security are prepping for a police state isn’t really willing to pay attention.

No, by politicians goosing the gas peddle while too short to see over the dashboard.

These days, but for the Internet, which may get a presidential off-switch, we would know nothing.

[...] Raw Story [...]

How is Chomsky a tool of the Zionists? He criticizes Israel pretty thoroughly.

Well, no, we don’t freely elect our reps. The electoral system’s been captured by the need for huge amounts of money to run for office, the tyranny of the two-party system, the pols who control the party machines, the corporations that control the media (and the elected representatives), gerrymandering, Supreme Court rulings on campaign funding, etc. etc.
There’s some semblance of a free system in local elections, very rarely at the state level, never at the national level.

“after all did they not freely elect to their representatives?”

“Freely electing” a candidate is a pretty stupid way to think about our current electoral process. We are presented with two and only two choices, both of which have been carefully prepared to produce the same outcome.

Yes indeed the brainwashing is effective when you think that you can make a difference at the ballot box.

LOL we think eerily alike my friend, I am a history nerd and well that was the first thing that came to mind.

Finally…. the Truth is told. “Americans profound hatred of democracy”

Embrace it bitches cause thats the truth !

Sadly I agree with you, people are more likely to care about American Idol than their own government. I used to think that the American public’s lack of education was due to a horribly mismanaged system but I am starting to think it is intentional. You educate people and they think for themselves which is dangerous.

“lose him his tenured position”

Have you read any Chomsky AT ALL? He has been saying this kind of stuff for DECADES. His political opinions are a DIRECT result of his research into the inner workings of the human mind. His employer UNDERSTANDS this and gives him free reign because they KNOW that he is advancing human knowledge.

You don’t seem to know much about MIT either, they have a long and healthy history of sponsoring ALL manner of disruptive research.

“”The results are rather striking. They show that Arab opinion holds that the major threat in the region is Israel. That’s 80 percent. The second major threat is the United States. That’s 77 percent. Iran is listed as a threat by 10 percent. With regard to nuclear weapons rather remarkably, the majority — in fact 57 percent — say that it will have a positve effect on the region if Iran had nuclear weapons. These are not small numbers,” he said.”

Hey, I ain’t Arab and that’s my opinion too. And I have a feeling that the rest of the world probably thinks along those lines as well. Too bad the corporate media doesn’t have the balls to publish that.

Forget the hypocrisy award. Send him to Guantanamo with a hood over his head.

I have a feeling that the 16 million people slaughtered by the US know that. And so do their families. And their friends. And their fellow countrymen.

Half the world? Ha ha! Geography handicapped much?

Maybe you should the docs released and see if anything piques your interest.

Nope. No hope.

Bill Clinton didn’t do the damage. He merely signed a bill.

Had he not signed the bill, his veto would have been overridden quite easily. It was a GOP wet dream of a bill, which happened to also have a bunch of Dems on board. If you have a beef with the Clintons, that’s OK. But, you can’t blame that legislation on him. The president doesn’t legislate…

“Wikiwho?” Says the Amerikan people. “Is that a new show on Fox?” “Or is it a new drink, maybe one with a little umbrella in it?” “Or a new sandwich at McDonald’s, perhaps?” “The latest electronic gadget from Apple?”

There you go again, expecting the people who post here to make sense!

“We should understand that the Pentagon Papers is another case in point that one of the major reasons for government secrecy is to protect the government from its own population,”…

Indeed, the inevitable route of any and all governments, regardless of origins or intentions, will always become a parasite living off of and dominating the people of whom they claim to protect.

We cannot win in a court of law, any gains are miniscule and short lived. It is unreasonable and blind to expect anything to be achieved in a system of justice created by the institutions we inevitably find ourselves at odds with.

So, what then should we do?

The biggiest threat to the US is the GOP. They hate America a lot more than the Saudis do.

Secrecy and democracy cannot coexist any more than air and water can occupy the same space. They are fundamentally counter intuitive polar opposites and to attempt to merge them can only end in disaster. We would have greater success splitting atoms with a peening hammer. The revulsion that classified people have for public access to their work is only matched by the intellectual paucity of their information. These dark secrets that have cost so much in lives and resources cannot stand in the face of reasoned scrutiny. Intolerance of secrecy is the only resort; it must be spurned, denigrated and marginalized in every aspect of our government.

They hate democracy of course. But they use the concept of it to enrich themselves in both houses. What we have left of democracy in this country. And nothing is going to change. What really slays me is the President. When campaigning he referred often to how warped things were, in regard to whistle blowers. That they should be protected from the worst by reporting the sins and errors. And yet he has consistently been as hard on them as Bush. In fact worse in some cases. I call wiki leaks democracy in action. This man should be given the medal they want to give Bush Sr.

The Republicans hate this country. And everything they have done from outsourcing jobs, and ruining the economy to the stated desire to see a Presidency fail says it all. And they have two years to make it worse. And they will. Again welcome to third rate America.

Now thats some logic from Chomsky.

One would thinkg that he, Hillary, Lieberman, Graham, McCain and the Justice Department demand that the individuals who provided Wikileaks with all the goodies be prosecuted. All one reads is the likes of Chomsky claiming that americans hate democracy and that world dimplomacy is in trouble.

Why is there no one demanding an investigation to determine who the stoolies working for Wikileaks are?

I am continually searching online for articles that can aid me. Thanks!

Excellent post, the ability to simplify complex issues is a great skill, fits right in on a story about Chomsky. Also, thanks for bringing up Parenti, I used to read and listen to him a lot, and had somewhat forgotten about him, I think I’ll go see what he’s been up to lately.

The biggest threat to the US is unfettered corporate power and a would be aristocracy . The GOP is simply the political arm of the aforementioned .

The only action I see that would minimize American casualties and create some progressive change, is to boycott all fortune 500 companies. Yes banks included. Especially BIG BANKS! Since they are the ones who run this country/world. Only buy what you need. It worked in the south when Blacks boycotted buses because the only thing the elites understand, is money! They declared class warfare on us, we need to show them what a class warfare looks like!

But Americans need their lcd flat screen tv so good luck with that. Boycotting black friday would’ve been genius. But no, poor Americans are suckers for a sale.

maybe we do need a riot. rioting worked in the 60s but this aint the 60s and that would leave the door open for martial law. Which is what I fear is what they want.

Who can doubt the fact that under present conditions, USA is the biggest threat to world peace, not just middle east. The US public is just too sweet to be criticised or to be blamed for anything the government does. The public is helpless. People vote, but they know their votes are for the individuals, that do not share values with public.

Chomsky did not say the American public hates democracy! In fact he said the opposite. He said the political leaders of the US and Isreal hate democracy when their people want democracy.

They already outted the military official who leaked these documents to Wikileaks. His last name is Manning I believe (young white kid, probably a patsy) and the USG is trying to prosecute him. I doubt he is still a military worker.

As much as I support open govt, I too find WikiLeaks suspect. This info is out because certain people want it out. Its not about honest govt. The media could just as easily ignore WikiLeaks and no one would’ve known about them. Now who owns the majority of the media and is from Assange hometown Australia? hmm….

Why isn’t anyone demanding the Bush gang be indicted for their war crimes? Who ever leaked these pages is a hero for free speech!

Back in the dark ages (1960′s) my father made it very clear to me that the Russian people had no desire to end the world. The Soviet government was communist but the people dreamed the same dreams we do. He thought world leaders should be confined on an island to lessen their potential damage.

It is my belief that much of the world understands we are hijacked by a government out of control.

Oh boy. You could read the last six months news…….

Democracy, at least in our USA, is over. Our system has failed, and the powers that be realize that the time has come to prepare for the upcoming unrest. To do this, they need to make it absolutely crystal clear to all would-be dissenters that they will perish, forgotten in the tome of history, their sacrifice in vain. It happened at the fall of Weimar Germany, and it is happening today. But do not waver inyour beleif. History proves that these “last gasp” rulers do not rule for long, and in the end, themselves disgraced.

Im not against the truth coming out but WikiLeaks is not for an open and honest democratic govt. Its for WWIII.

Republicans hate democracy. That’s why they’re always trying to “export” it with their wars of aggression. They don’t want any democracy left here to compete with their fascist ideology.

Wikileaks…. the gift that keeps on giving.

We as a people in a democratic republic have a right and dare I say it an obligation to know what our government is up to since it is us that will be killed if they get us into wars. Put simply I don’t trust our government any more. I don’t trust that they are acting in my better interests. I would have to have something akin to a religious faith that they were in the absence of any proof and I am politicall­y agnostic.

You don’t know who the leaker is because you haven’t been paying attention. Hint he’s already in jail.

Wikileaks is for the truth, that leads to open and honest govt because they’re caught with their metaphoric knickers down, so have to say “Oh gee, we were bad, we won’t do it again” and everyone watches them a little closer next time, hopefully.
Journalism is a messy business but Wikileaks is in its best traditions, speaking truth to power.

Obama’s desire to suck up to the Clinton’s and Bushes will be his end of the Presidency. He is a one term.

Like Deep Throat?

I believe Daniel Ellsberg had good intentions but Mark Felt (Deep Throat) did not. He wanted to bring Nixon down because of a personal vendetta. It had nothing to do with open govt.

Seriously, this leak is not for the public because the public has NO CONTROL over govt rather we know what its doing or not. This leak is to piss off other nations.

Why not declare Chomsky as a terrorist or an Enemy Combatant.

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I agree and I wasnt saying anything contrary to what you just said. But I do disagree that we are a democratic republic. This is facism. Corp control of govt. It hasnt been democratic since I dont know when.

Chomsky is protected because all he does is give lectures and write books. Since, most Americans dont read there is no threat.

The war in Iraq and Afghanistan is not about spreading democracy.

Iraq a puppet state.

Karzai a puppet.

Saudi Arabia will never allow democracy in that country because the people by take over the oil resources via democracy.

The United States screwed up Iran by installing the Shah. One can hardly call that democracy.

Israel is not democratically created.

Kuwait was created by the Brits. Iraq was created by the Brits. No democracy there.

The Korean war was about butting in on a country’s internal affairs that is no one’s business. Same with Vietnam.

Reagan hates democracy. Nicaragua anyone?

Eisenhower and Nixon hated it too. Gutamalea is a case. We were lied to.

We had to fight the Phillipines for 60 years. The Phillipines wanted democracy but we didn’t want them to have it.

The list can go on. But all in all the imperialists countries, United States included fights democracy all over the world.

Since Chomsky is educated, that alone makes him an enemy of the right wing teabaggers. Taking our country back… in time.

How does Noam Chomsky’s comments fit in with previous claims in Raw Story blogs that WikiLeaks is a Zionist tool?

I will support him if he holds strong on opposition to tax cuts for the rich. If he caves in to the Rushthuglicans on this issue… I want a different option in the primary.

Do you read the Time’s article today, _Julian Assange: Hillary Clinton “Should Resign”?
The first question came to my mind is, What really this guy’s scheme is? Obviously he did not concern too much telling the truth about the side we are fighting with. What is his role in our world right now? A reporter? An Islamic in disguise? Or: _ A spy for one kind of enemy? The information he obtain obviously by one way of spying. _That is spy activity. Leave alone Secretary of state’s fate to her people. He has no role to decide anything on this matter.

* So far his ambition appears quite immature to be in effectively bring down stability of the US in my opinion.

Reich-wing hypocrisy 101:

Normal person: “Why do you tell us the government has a secret agenda, to fear it, and yet when it’s exposed, you want to prosecute those who do so?”

Reich-winger “If we can’t trust the government to keep secrets, why should we trust it to run healthcare?”

Normal person: “It makes sense not to trust the government for what it’s doing in secret, but to trust it when it’s non-secret, transparent and regulated, like healthcare”

Reich-winger: “Uhhhh….I am a victim of elitist propaganda”

Ooohhhhh, please… please…. ;)

Good points, and the forces have prevailed, but imo, there was considerable difference between the Kennedy’s and the other elites, especially the neo-cons, for example. I believe JFK wanted to reign-in much of it. RFK probably would have. Eisenhower at least warned us about some of it.

He did plenty of damage, esp, the telecommunications act, and other neo-liberal atrocities, but point made (not sure about veto, but take your word for it): the reich-wingers had been pouring money into this cause for decades and they finally got it done. The vote went down with no republican opposition, and many dems opposed.

I think it’s a tit-for-tat in reply to Clinton saying Wikileaks is a terrorist organization.

Psyops. Being thoroughly critical doesn’t mean anything at the end of the day. The last simian prez wanted the bearded time lord ‘dead or alive’ once upon a time. Remember? Obie guaranteed a pullout from afghanistan… Remember? What makes you think Chomsky isn’t as dishonest? He doesn’t even care about 9-11.

Yeah, you make no sense at all!

Common sense. Gain a persons trust and then screw them over. Every prez of America has done that.

Chomsky is a spinmeister catering to the pseudo leftists and intellectuals…

Don’t retreat and become dissociated, that’s for sure…

“….Obviously he did not concern too much telling the truth about the side we are fighting with.”

I agree. I am still on the fence regarding these “leaks”. I think he would be “disappeared” by now if it wasn’t meant to come out.

Brad Friedman of Bradblog will be interviewing Daniel Ellsberg tomorrow-Wednesday- between 3 and 4 pm (PT)
http://kpfk.org/

Good for Norm. Speak the truth – a democracy is built on the freedom of the press. If the government is embarrassed then the government is working against the people.

Wait a minute – have you read the US Constitution or the Supreme Court decision in the Ellsburg case. Free of press is tantamount to a free society. Hillary works for us. Some of the footage released in the past showed the US military assassinating a reporter in Iraq. The result – the soldier who had the moral conscience was charged with treason and those responsible for the assassination never were investigated.

The problem here is not the people doing the leaks or Wiki Leaks confirming and releasing information we all need to know. The problem is the volume of abuses that exist making many in governments around the world – including the US – full of thugs, liars and criminals. Assassinations, bribes, arms and drug trafficing are all things these leaders are involved in.

Always kill the messenger.

Motivations of the whistle blower are as irrelevant as the personal attacks on the person. Plame was protecting the US from rogue nuclear proliferation and yet Cheney attacked her personally. What was important was the knowledge the Niger memo was a fake. For disclosing this Plame lost her job and had her life turned upside down.

The issue is the information must come out. Yes Mark Felt was upset because he was passed over for a promotion, but Nixon was guilty of the crimes he committed and through the whole thing no one had the presence of mind to ask why he was breaking into the Democratic National Headquarters. What bit of information was he looking for. It had to be rather important to break into the Watergate three times.

I would disagree – North Korea is only 18 miles form Seoul. They do not need a rocket to blow up the city. The Seoul National Capital Area is the world’s second largest metropolitan area with over 24.5 million inhabitants. Would you not protect them from Kim and his nut case son. North Korea has sold nuclear technology they got from the Red Chinese to Iran.

But I guess it is all equal. Everyone needs his own bomb.

Technology makes Wiki Leaks possible. When documents are posted they are posted in entirety to multiple sites. Those documents then instantly travel around the world. Shutting down a Wiki Leaks site does no good because the information is all over the net.

Ellsburg took months copying the Rand report. He had to do it at night and made only one copy. Control meant getting control of the copied document. This is no longer the case. The motivations of Julian Assuage are unimportant – it is a smoke screen to attack the messenger or in this case attempt to frame him for rape to make him seem like some monster. The monsters are the people he is exposing – including Hillary – who have taken an oath to defend the Constitution and then quickly act in the most corrupt fashion. Obama if he was true to the transparency promised in the campaign should be firing Hillary and touting Wiki Leaks as the great hero they are.

There will be prosecutions. This will be worse than the Mafia hearings of the 1950s. The people attempting to cover their butts – including Hillary – will form a long line.

Many have forgotten what first when down, and how things actually went down in Sweden. So here’s an excellent and pithy article by an excellent journalist to explain:

Swedish Prosecutor Marianne Ny, badly compromising civil rights by refusing to swiftly investigate case

The news that WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange was suspected of rape echoed around the globe. So strange that the woman filing the complaint did not herself claim she’d been raped. After the case was dismissed and then reopened, the case dossier – which is not public information – was published in the tabloid press.

Chief prosecutor Marianne Ny, on special assignment to develop new methodologies for sex crime cases, has explained that this case can take a long time, possibly months. This is remarkable considering that in March of this year in a DN interview she stressed the importance of handling matters swiftly for sex crime cases. That a prosecutor goes public with a suspicion and then neglects to swiftly investigate the suspicion must be in conflict with fundamental principles of civil rights.

The Assange case should set off alarms. Is there an attitude about this type of crime which leads to fundamental civil rights being pushed aside? To swiftl y investigate the case should be simple. This is reasonably a matter of interrogating the parties, reviewing mail correspondence, things like that. Maybe a few hours work. Interrogations must obviously be held swiftly as people’s memory is influenced and altered, particularly when the interrogations are published in the tabloids. Assange is being hung out as a suspected rapist and he’s harmed by it. But this doesn’t seem to bother Marianne Ny.

by Carin Stenström, Rixstep

From the site:

http://www.theoneclickgroup.co.uk/news.php?start=3940&end=3960&view=yes&id=5268#newspost

Chomsky has always been anti Israel. Hell he is anti US foreign policy – but again separate the message from the messenger. I have never liked Chomsky much – but like Ann Coulter who also says many unpopular things sometimes they hit on the truth.

The message is clear here. The US has acted badly in foreign affairs and attempted to hide their actions from the public. With the internet all government documents should be posted to the internet for all agencies. There are very few documents that need secrecy – and the secrecy is very short lived. Once the battle is over post the documents. It would end with a better government

It is not news when the news organizations conduct popularity polls to determine the most popular thing the people want to hear. That is entertainment and the goal is to make money. News organizations all have a demographic they cater to so as to derive the largest share and thus the highest ad revenue.

What side would that be we are fighting? You mean all those countries which are members of the UN which Hillary told people to spy on? Are we fighting those countries too?

I got nothing against Assange and I am not trying to kill the messenger. But, I do question everything.

As far as I am concerned, Assange is just a little over 8 years too late for me. I could’ve told you what the govt was doing 8 years ago! Since people like you need ‘leaked proof’ from a govt that LIES, you wouldnt’ve believed me! This leak isnt earth shattering for anybody who has been paying attention to politics for the last 10 years. Im sure the info in WikiLeaks is not earth shattering to Chomsky or any other historian either.

So those Guatanamo Bay torture pics in 2005 didnt give u a clue what this govt is capable of in secrecy?

Its going to be interesting to see what kind of consequences if any comes from the info gained from WikiLeaks.

A few facts concerning Israel and the Arab World;

The Arab World, excluding Iran and Turkey, is comprised of 22 countries with a area around 13 million square kms. Only Russia is larger in territory than the Arab World.

Israel is almost 22, 000 sq. kms., with a population of 7.5 million, 20% of which are Israeli Arabs.

Many progressives, despite this disparity, simply accept the myth that the Arabs are the underdogs in the struggle with Israel.

Israel, a free people, have a record of extraordinary human achievement, whereas the Arabs are at the bottom of the UN human development index despite the enormous recources available.

Still, Arabs, Muslims and their apologists in the West blame Israel for the failures of the Arab World.

It is as if the plight of the Palestinian ‘occupation” by Israelis explains the Sudanese civil wars and genocide in Darfur, or the mass killin=gs inside Algeria, or the endless list of atrocities, gender oppression, humiliation of religious minorities, wars, military dictatorships, horrendous violence and human slaughter in the name of Islam in the Arab World.

Palestinians are a integral part of this disfunctional world, and their politics reflect to an heightened degree, the problems the rest of the world tends to avoid discussing for fear of being called politically incorrect.

Those who have a knee-jerk anti-Israel bias, would do well to consider the realities of that unhappy part of the world.

I agree the information leaked is more important but I dont think the motivations of whistle blowers are irrelevant.

Would it be irrelevant if you found out WikiLeaks main sponsor was Bush?

or in Assange case, at least make it look like it. lol

For peace’s sake, I don’t name any. You, as a responsible citizens should know all about that. And remember, one enemy can be one great friend at sometimes and they can again be …enemy. The main concern here, each country have top secretes that should not be used to play with as information to stun the public or use to blackmail person in charged. Or sometimes, the “other side” can use it to harm you some way. I was not shocked as much yesterday as I was today. When I read the news, he is trying to carry a highly profile mission to remove Secretary of State with the information he hacked from top secrete files. _ In that case, US is at stake. He can hack anywhere, remove anyone as he please. What kind of country US will turn to under his “mercy”?

Eric, so you’d rather to grant any spy to hack and deteriorate a country than putting some limitation on some right and protect country and some level of freedom we gain so far? There is no perfect choice. Balancing our judgment skillfully is really needed. I am sure I don’t want to be Iranian, or Chinese (okay, I stop here for the sensitive of listing more dislike countries on my list) citizen. If you work on the way to get freedom of speech, I would more than love to join your team but we give to much advance for “other” side with this approach. So I believe we better make the cleverest balancing on this subject. Wikileaks should not continue hacking, prevailing anything and everything. Especially: Using it for their blackmail.

The only problem is, Chomsky is the last “intellectual” who has the credibility to speak in the name of democratic values and the respect of the rules of laws, considering his personal reaction to a question concerning the assassination of JFK, ( I am paraphrasing here…) but Chomsky said something like, “who cares who killed Kennedy, it’s irrelevant….”.

Someone who believes that such issue is irrelevant is not in a position to set socio-political standards, even less of moral & ethics guidelines. Chomsky has always been a gate keeper, a sacred cow of dissidence. aside from selling books and giving lectures, his contribution to real changes in society, equals to nothing……He has been babbling about the same shit for centuries.

They don’t, unless those claims come from the same people who claim Chomsky is a Zionist tool. Really, though, all such spurious claims are the ravings of lunatics.

“..If the government is embarrassed then the government is working against the people.”
Do you refer to Wikileaks? I don’t think it necessarily for the government to be embarrassed in most leaks that prevailed by Wikileaks but they might and should get angry. How do you feel if in the cold war, a US agent submitted homeland secretes and strategies to the opponent? Same thing in this case, the homeland secretes is submitted to an unauthority. It doesn’t mater how they will use and apply it against you but it’s an act of traitor. I don’t think punishment a traitor should be considered as “working against the people”. I strongly agree submitting homeland secretes to an unauthority is a crime.

Mark Felt’s motivation was probably more related to Nixon’s attempt to blackmail the intel community over the “Bay of Pigs Thing” than some petty personal vendetta. E. Howard Hunt was blackmailing Nixon about past black ops and Nixon tried to blackmail the CIA in turn to launder his hush money. Check out Haldemann;s memoirs.

Type your reply…

Exactly my point…decades later we found out that there were ulterior motives to exposing and impeaching Nixon for wrongdoing than what was initially reported as a righteous act of truth from a whistle blower.

I strongly agree that you’re a moron.

Wouldn’t it be great if we could revive America’s democracy by exposing all the dirty secrets of our crooked government and the corporations that run it?

Let’s have some fun and save our country. Support WikiLeaks!

So what have you done lately for the cause of freedom and Democracy? You may brand Chomsky merely a pointy headed intellectual, but through his writings / speeches he has initiated and inspired millions of citizens to action.

Talk about writers with little credibility, I’m quite sure you set a high standard.

he/she just can’t rite….right…….write……

whatever……….

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if we had a working “free press” i might agree with you, let investigative journalists do there job. unfortunatly we have a corporate propaganda machine thats toothless and worthless. this govt is waaaaay off track and completly out of control, if it takes rebels like assange to hold them accountable…..so be it! the USSA is at a tipping point, we are broke, we have no credibility anymore, bankers are feasting on the corpse of this once great country.

you mean which countries we are occupying, destroying, and stealing from??? oops, almost forgot….also butchering there citizens, and polluting there environment with depleted uranium munitions.

I read a book once that said Lutherans believe that public humiliation of another person requires public repentance. I’m not sure if it’s true or how it applies to the US government in particular, but I do wonder if any government official condemning Wikileaks is aware that embarrassment, or covering up crimes against humanity, is not a legitimate reason to keep something secret.

You’re bloviating, concerner.

Why do you set up the false choice that it’s truth vs. “some limitation on rights”? First of all there is no such thing as national security and there is nothing that you can do in a free state to protect it from citizens who object. It’s that plain and simple. In a free society, you cannot stamp out dissent so the state is always subject to being toppled. Obviously, it’s the reverse in a totalitarian or dictator state. The point is that the way you protect a free country is by removing inequities which 100% lead to all society’s problems, such as poverty, crime, and disease. In other words the best way for a free society to work is to remember the golden rule: do no harm is always the first principle–i.e. no one has the right to harm another. Yes, it is an impossibility and that is why rule no. 2 is to always do as little harm as possible. Again, a hard rule to live up to, but it’s actually more efficient and easier to remember than the thousands of laws and rules already on the books. In other words, the idea that revealing corruption and grievous crimes can never hurt a free society.

Name one nation that was democratically created (as opposed to taken/created by force)?

When he caves, will they not spin it that he didn’t cave?

What was the reason for Mark Felt’s personal vendetta against Nixon?

Excellent point, Eric von Baranov. What explains the ability to discount Nixon’s crimes because Mark Felt might have had bad intentions, as if to make Mr. Felt worse than Nixon. It’s classic American propaganda of using false equivalencies and then saying there’s nothing to see here.

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You know Seoul ain’t the bastion of liberty that you might tend to believe.

Don’t get me wrong I have no affection for Kim Jong Il or whoever is the leader of the North, and I know barely next to nothing about the conflict between the N and S, but if I were a betting man, I’d have to say there are some pretty bad deals on both sides of the fence, and I believe it’s accurate to say that S. Korea was for years run by the military at the behest of the US government and only recently have they adorned themselves a democracy, even though one must wonder if S. Korea like many nations (every nation?) is run by an oligarchy of a few families.

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Wow, what a great argument. Attacking the messenger instead of addressing the issue.

But I shall follow your headless incoherence & the next time you will be critical of Obama or any other politician, I will ask you.”what have you done for the leadership of the United States?”. Critical thinking is not limited to those who have actually done something in a particular field of expertise. Being critical and expressing dissent is essentially the essence of freedom of expression.

On top of it, I consider ludicrous and ironically pathetic to be “judged” by someone who is probably a US citizen, as such you are the last person on this planet who has the intellectual & ethical baggage to set the standards for the rest of us.You are a nation of slaves and bovines, & what you may or may not be thinking, is irrelevant.

So true. This has always been the real problem even at our country’s founding.

“I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations which even now dare to challenge the government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of their country!”

- Thomas Jefferson to George Logan, 1816

Bravo.

“The Arab World, excluding Iran and Turkey, is comprised of 22 countries with a area around 13 million square kms. Only Russia is larger in territory than the Arab World.”

So? Are you trying to say that all of that should belong to Israel too?

“Israel is almost 22, 000 sq. kms., with a population of 7.5 million, 20% of which are Israeli Arabs.”

Yes, a turd in a sea of Arabs.

“Many progressives, despite this disparity, simply accept the myth that the Arabs are the underdogs in the struggle with Israel.”

No. People of conscience disagree with what has been done to the Palestinians. Israel has no place being there, particularly, at the expense of another people.

“Israel, a free people, have a record of extraordinary human achievement, whereas the Arabs are at the bottom of the UN human development index despite the enormous recources available.”

Yes, they wrote a book of voodoo, punned it on the world, through acts of terrorism and extreme violence, they have been able to displace the population of an entire country and steal all their land. They keep have kept the Middle East in tumult for over 60 years. They are a rogue nuclear pariah nation. They are a threat to the world. Impressive indeed!

“Still, Arabs, Muslims and their apologists in the West blame Israel for the failures of the Arab World.”

Honor where honor is due.

“It is as if the plight of the Palestinian ‘occupation” by Israelis explains the Sudanese civil wars and genocide in Darfur, or the mass killin=gs inside Algeria, or the endless list of atrocities, gender oppression, humiliation of religious minorities, wars, military dictatorships, horrendous violence and human slaughter in the name of Islam in the Arab World.”

Yes, that explains the price of tea China but what does it have to do with the invasion, occupation, slaughter, ethnic cleansing, Apartheid of the Palestinian people and the theft of their land?

“Palestinians are a integral part of this disfunctional world, and their politics reflect to an heightened degree, the problems the rest of the world tends to avoid discussing for fear of being called politically incorrect.”

Funny, they were all a peaceful, productive nation before y’all fucked them up.

“Those who have a knee-jerk anti-Israel bias, would do well to consider the realities of that unhappy part of the world.”

Disband Israel! Give the land back to the Palestinians. Send the jews back to Russia, Europe and Brooklyn. I hope that’s not too biased for you. I really don’t mean to offend the brittle sensibility of any Chosen People.

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about that “57 percent” that say nuclear weapons in iran would have a positve effect seems even larger given the fact that “in 2009, only 29% of those polled said that Iran’s acquisition of nuclear weapons would be “positive” for the Middle East” that has just about doubled in a year

“It’s like a jungle, sometimes it makes me wonder
How I keep from going under”

just took your advice … here’s a link to donate to wikileaks

https://donations.datacell.com/

and here’s an excellent article on commondreams by bill quigley

“Why Wikileaks is Good for Democracy”

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/11/30-8

When Mr. Chomsky speaks I ALWAYS listen.

Those who are calling for the prosecution of Wikileaks are the ones who should be prosecuted themselves.

“Open government” is obviously not an objective in any administration and “freedom of the press” is always conditional.

“Obie guaranteed a pullout from afghanistan… Remember?”

false. He campaigned on the idea of escalating Afghanistan saying “that’s where the terrorists are, that’s where they have always been”.. which is correct. He said we would be leaving Iraq, and by their wordsmithing, our “combat operations” are done there, so they get to pretend he kept his promise.

It’s also interesting that you’re putting Chomsky in the same boat as the enablers of corporate America.. the Presidents are stooges, lying for an agenda to help enrich the few, Chomsky is no part of any such group or mechanism or mindset. You can’t (reasonably) bring the Presidents and their failures into a discussion about Chomsky and hope to make a valid point.

“Being critical and expressing dissent is essentially the essence of freedom of expression.”

You can apply your own comment to the works of Mr Chomsky. So, how does your particular brand of critical thinking help us here or anywhere? I say again, it doesn’t. I’d rather read Chomsky’s expressions any day.

It’s quite clear that you have some sort of generic hatred for the US and it’s citizens, how new and different. Sweeping generalizations are not a hallmark of critical thinking, but they do serve to expose, what appears to be your bland intellect.

Remarkable, you managed to type “genetic” without a typo…

Labeling me as a Yankee hater is not going to help you make your case, You may try something more hilarious next time, like antisemitic…..
Consider yourself lucky I am even responding to you. You’re a nOOb & a pseudo intellectual wanker. Irrelevant, is the terminology I would use to depict you.

I think Dr. Chomsky made that “who cares” statement in reference to the 9-11 events. But, yea you’re right Dr. Chomsky knows upon which side his “bread is buttered”(MIT is funded largely by the military-industrial complex); and Dr. Chomsky is certainly astute enough to know that if he spoke the truth about issues that REALLY threatened the Establishment it would be the “lone gunman nut shots venerable Linguistics Professor” headline on the Grey Lady or “aged MIT prof. dies of ‘heart attack’ ” like that guy who was speaking out against BP during the height of the Gulf disaster .

@ TheDevilCanDance:

I’ve read a great deal of Chomsky’s writings; this is the first of yours that I’ve read.
While you state that Chomsky is “not in a position to set socio-political standards, even less of moral & ethics guidelines”, it is actually a good deal more accurate to state that you as well are in no position to determine who should be able to set socio-political standards, or moral & ethics guidelines.

I’ll go back to Chomsky; he thinks his positions through, and states the reasons. You relate a paraphrased remark from the past (and to be honest, if you can’t remember it the way he said it, it’s not very likely that you got the context right, either; the alternative, of course, is to research it quickly, so you don’t look so unsure of your conviction), and top it off with petty criticism. Is this your reaction to all of your intellectual superiors? BarttheCat is right: just what have you done? I don’t see Chomsky hiding his name behind some internet pseudonym.

I’ll continue reading Chomsky; I’ll read nothing more from you, as you contribute nothing.

Don’t give up, the story says “there might be an ounce of gold among a pile of shit”.

bufftrucker, You have entertainment value, please do it again :)

The word was “generic” as in common, not “genetic”.

You branded yourself a Yankee hater, when you referred to Americans as a “nation of slaves and bovines”, or was I supposed to read deeper between the lines?

Please don’t bother responding, instead focus on your role playing game addiction and internet porn search. Also, I’m sure your greasy hair and black trench coat need attending to.

I have read most of Chomsky’s books and I value them for their contribution to the understanding of American foreign policy, but strictly on an historical base. I don’t agree with the position he takes and his interpretation of the rational behind the US foreign policy.

You are right when you stated that Chomsky knows his limits and he doesn’t need outside interference to regulate what he may or may not say.Unlike Howard Zinn who was an activist and really took great risks regardless of his personal career, Chomsky essentially values his personal comfort and socio-academic status, over anything else.

Eric gave you one reason but there are probably a variety of reasons someone didnt like Nixon. I personally, dont like him because he was racist.
Look up Mark Felt on Wikipedia and there are possible reasons for Deep Throat leaks given there. Among them Chomsky argued that it was Nixon’s dismantling of the Bretton Woods system that made him an enemy of multinational corporations and international bankers.

You described a classic gop progaganda but the error in your logic is that I never discounted Nixon crimes or attempted to make Mark Felt look worse than Nixon. Nor did I dismiss this story as nothing to see. Its actually quite the opposite. This is a fascinating topic and it sounds like the basis of a good movie. lol

I was merely stating what was learned from past political whistleblower stories.
Deep Throat was Mark Felt and Mark Felt at the time of Deep Throat was an FBI Associate Director.

I know the American empire has to collapse, but I just wish it didn’t have to collapse in my time when I’m trying to build some kind of life. I’d give anything to be a mild-mannered graphic designer living in some quiet house in the burbs, but apparently the very existence of that lifestyle depends on too much BS and warfare to stay feasible.

Normally, I wouldn’t respond to a hilariously ignorant troll like yours, but I love humor, never matter how poor and infantile the attempt.

Well, I do know that the spineless wonder from Mitre Corp., (“Jump only this high, Lester”) Lester Thurow is at MIT, and watches very carefully what he mumbles.

And I do know of Simon Johnson, Senior Fellow at Peterson Institute also — talk about your absolute shill tanks! Yeah….one day Simonize says CDSes are evil, the next day he’s cheering them on. What a lamer. Go back to the World Bank, chump.

And I do know Larry Summers’ uncle, Pauly Samuelson, took friggin 19 years before he finally removed his clownish head from his ample butt to mumble “Maybe offshoring all the American jobs may actually be detrimental to the economy.”

Frigging Larry Summers’ Uncle Idiot. No wonder Summers is nothing more than a penny-chasing douchebag. How’s that Harvard Endowment Fund doing, Warry, Warry??

And I did in fact read Chomsky for over 30 years, until I realized what a coward he was, always carefully cherrypicking what he would speak of.

And some of those whoppers he told, like that work he did on the KAL flight, working with the CIA, which was shot down over the Soviet Union — Chomsky told some whoppers about that (although I agreed with the gist of what he said, still he lied), and I recally him claiming that Kadena AS had little to no communications facilities:

Although they had 24-hour encrypted communications going on at that time.

And CHomsky always went by the “lone gunmen” for JFK’s, RFK’s and MLK’s assassinations; and Chomsky went with the official conspiracy theory on 9/11.

Negative, Chomsky has been a very spineless cherrypicker, else he would have been fired as Ward Churchill was and University of Colorado, and Thorstein Veblen was eons ago, and various other lesser-known academics (lesser-known because they were terminated for unethical and illegitimate reasons) who have faced the same outcome.

Negative, MIT is a fool’s school, and they continue to turn out an extravagance of fools.

And you are an adequate demonstration of why education needs to improve.

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Where is the “profound hatred of democracy” Chomsky speaks of?

I have a profound respect for Chomsky, but his claim strikes me as unfounded. I’m getting the feeling that a lot of people are running around with pitchforks, ready to burn American diplomats at the stake over the slightest provocation. And yet there doesn’t seem to be any ‘there’ there.

Where is the malfeasance? Where is the dereliction of duty? Where is the incompetence? All I’ve seen so far is a bunch of cables written by seemingly hard-working Americans, describing their responses to difficult and sometimes intractable international dilemmas.

Am I missing something?

I was a graphic designer for 10 years until the Bush recession hit. I haven’t worked as a GD for nearly 2 years. I’ve ridden out 2 recessions in GD. There won’t be a 3rd.

Find something else to do!

I live in Seoul and I can tell you that what was said above isn’t the case. There is a good book called “North Korea / South Korea: U.S. Policy at a Time of Crisis” by “John Feffer” if you want to see what role the US played in reshaping the Yellow Sea after the war.

I can also tell you that the second a elected official messes up, even the slightest, he resigns out of fear of the public backlash. You can imagine how many Secretaries of Defense we have had in the past half-year :p

Missing something? Son, you are missing everything. What a trusting fool you are….your government lies to you constantly, yet you don’t see malfeasance???

What have you done for centuries? Shovel shit in Cincinnati? Are you so accomplished you can readily dismiss the work of Chomsky because he doesn’t see eye to eye with the likes of YOU? You are a blowhard, a career in politics awaits you.

You are a jealous twit. People who follow your methodology are essentially airheads who think Chomsky is both wrong and not entitled to the opinions that great wisdom and experience bring. Kindly list the publications you’ve produced and let us see what you are all about. Until then, keep believing in your god Obama.

Sticks and stones….you judge Chomsky but don’t want to be judged yourself. A typical ten cent/peso/lira punk. Clearly you are a perfect individual blessed with infinite intelligence. I bet you are an overweight slob that smokes incessantly and wonders why you have heart disease.

Oh, why do you have to hurt my feeling this way?,Lol

I am also very found of wappy little dogs, let’s exchange recipes….

“keep believing in your god Obama”.

Hahaha, You are not the smartest crayon in the box….I am not even a US citizen.
since you have obviously mastered the art of being snotty, please process to level 2: Sarcasm and irony…..Can you spell bovine?

Sorry for hurting your feeling, Sissy boy.Last time I checked ,Chomsky was not insanely preocccupied with my personal opinion of him :)

Are you a professional ass-clown, or is this your first public audition?

“He campaigned on the idea of escalating Afghanistan saying “that’s where the terrorists are, that’s where they have always been”.. which is correct.”

False. The terrorists are not in Afghanistan – they’re mostly in DC and Tel Aviv.

Obie did say he’d bring the troops back home from Iraq as well as Afghanistan.

Chomsky isn’t naive by any stretch of the imagination, especially about politics, so when he dismisses unanswered questions about 9-11 he is highly suspect. Recently however, he made a lame attempt to backtrack a little bit on that issue.

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