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Well, they’re following the lead of their corporate sponsors in the “healthcare” industry. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander, I guess.

Time for a lawsuit.

So tell me again how U.S. health care is the best in the world …..

[...] Arizona 'death panel'? State Medicaid cuts poised to let some poor patients dieRaw StoryThe law has brought about a wrenching twist of fate for Arizona patients who need a transplant but lack the money, especially those at the front of the …and more » [...]

here in arizona is the model for a republican controlled legislature and the results…
brewer claimed that the state budget was balanced during her campaign knowing full well it was almost a billion dollars in the red, we had state parks closed because they stole the money that was funded for them, we had the only rest areas on the highways closed because they weren’t funded, they tried to steal money slated for children’s health programs to balance the budget but the voters turned them down, and now we have REAL death panels. oh and by the way the very first thing they proclaimed after the election was they were lowering business property taxes and RAISING personal property taxes to pay for it. so much for the Taxed Enough Already party.

Organ transplants are hardly experimental. They are proven life-savers. I have met several people who have had different types of transplants – they’re aren’t some kind of Frankenstein (that’s Fronk – en – steen, sorry couldn’t resist). They are normal, productive citizens. The US spends more on health care with worse results than any other developed nation in the world.

It’s not, John – the World Health Organisation currently has it as 39th.

It recently came 11th out of 11 in industrialised Western nations in terms of access to healthcare – here’s the link http://afunplacetobe.myfreefor…

It’s only the GOP, HMOs and Health Insurance companies who punt the myth that it is.

It is past time for the real providers of health care to take over. They provide the real care, so they have real control. Find a way to practice the medicine you went to school for. NPs too. No reason not to at all. It could all be up to you!

Brewer + McCain = A match made in hell!!!

Hopeless….

When do the cities of America start to burn again?

You know its coming all it needs is the proper spark.

It would seem the right is pushing for the conflict so they can impose marital law.

This little experiment with democracy, giving people a right to vote has been a failure in their eyes and they want to end it.

[...] Arizona ‘death panel’? State Medicaid cuts poised to let some poor patients die, 03 Dec 2010 [...]

It is all about the money. With all the heartless politicians one would think there would be a surplus of donor organs………

Why, it’s the best money can buy!

At least these patients will die knowing that they were not living in a Socialist Society. That should make accepting their death easier for them. Thank God we live in a Christian society

“Sarah . . . Sarah . . . where for art thou Sarah? The death panels are real!!!”

**I don’t know what all the hysteria is about. States have been letting poor people die for a long time. If you have money you can afford life-saving treatment. If not, you can’t. What’s new?

Republicans/right wing hates Americans

They’ve already imposed “marital” law. Only legal for heterosexuals.

Amen. Jeebus would want the poor to suffer and die, right?

Poor people in Arizona don’t contribute to Jan Brewer’s political campaigns. Why should she care if they die? And where is dear GOP heart throb Sarah Palin today? Has she Tweeted about this yet, or is she still glowering over Bristol’s loss on DWTS?

Denial of life is the ultimate tax.

Oh, come on now, what they’re proposing is a very pure sort of capitalism…if you need a kidney transplant, sell a lung.

Last Resort my ass.
Ask ONE person denied a transplant what their last resort would be, and it wouldn’t be a Scottsdale resort. STOP THE WAR idiots. STOP Foreign AID until we can feed and house our own, fools.
Free Marc Emery while yer at it.
Leave Wiki Justin ALONE.

There needs to be a black granite wall memorial on which are carved the names of the people who die because of this kind of politicking and greed. Maybe even put a dollar amount next to each name so the world can see just how much money the Corporations saved by killing that person.

God bless Teabagi$tan.

When will the Dyslexic High Priestess of the American Taliban speak out against these Repube Death Panels?

She is too busy being free and collecting ransoms.

the hispanics have already fled the state … i guess it’s time for the seniors to follow them

and they’re brought to you by the Arizona Republicans not Obama. Ah Sarah whadda ya gonna do?

Wow, the GOP is the gift that just keeps on giving.

America ….Arizona has to pay for its legal bills. Can’t be bothered with health care, education and other silly stuff like that!

that should be the first question the hospital asked if you go there for help …

“would you rather die than live in a socialist society”

if yes they can be admitted, if no they can leave the state

don’t forget it was one of those nitwits that turned PALIN loose on us. now there’s a trio from hell.

i bet we could sell arizona to the mexican druglords and pay off our national debt and have real national health care.

“Republican Gov. Jan Brewer’s office described it as a “literally as a last resort” option to bridge the state’s budget shortfall.”

So then, you’ve raised corporate taxes and income taxes on the highest incomes to 75% or more, and upped the estate tax to 90% of everything over $1 million? and still don’t have money? .. then I can see how it’s time to let people die. … what? you have NOT raised any taxes, and in fact CUT taxes? Then you don’t mean last “resort”, you mean last STEP [to killing off voters you don't like].

Just poor, non-whites ones.

ok, so… where is Palin shouting about and publicizing this???

yeah, a real caring woman… just another politician

As if that would do the people in need any good?

Excellent and to the point.

I kept reading down the comments, wondering if anyone was going to point this out. It’s true, and has been for years, if not forever. The poor are denied treatment every single day, and that includes life-saving treatment. The middle class are, too – probably even more. Anyone who thinks that insurance is going to cover their needs should open their eyes. Ain’t so.

Looks like they just leapt from robbing Americans of affordable healthcare to Privatizing healthcare to only those deemed “worthy” of needing surgery- a.k.a. the wealthy.

How Jan Brewer got re-elected is beyond me. She LOOKS like the devil! And she’s certainly acting like one too.

Oh, and this yet another policy by republicans that prove they don’t give “chicken crap” about the American people. Those who voted for this party, do us all a favor, stop dreaming and wake the F up!

your logic is a bit convoluted. it’s almost like holding all life sacred, until you have to pay for it. if you live in Arizona, this is patently ridiculous.

Arizona is in a very aggressive race to the bottom with Texas, Mississippi and Zimbabwe. I’m confident that Brewer can lead the state to win this one.

[...] The New York Times reports that Arizona doctors deem it a “a death sentence for some low-income patients, who have little chance of survival without transplants and lack the hundreds of thousands of dollars needed to pay for them.” Procuring Medicaid funds for such procedures can require poor patients to sit on a waiting list for lengthy periods of time, and the law is denying funding to those who have waited for years before its enactment. READ MORE… [...]

Now I have two reasons to cancel my trip to Arizona… TSA and Jannie.

Funny how the GOP are the ones doing death panel killings when they were the ones scaring everyone about them. BTW, health ins companies have been doing this for years.

Republican death panel has made a decision. The poor must die to pay for the rich man’s tax cut.

Human life is chicken crap to the Republicans. But they will put on a photo opt show when it comes to election time bullshit: we ban abortion because we care [red flag flies] about life

What was left out was the phraseology used by DarthBrewer. She discussed the need to “discard” some health treatments.

I can only state that she is an even worse Governor than Palin was.

She was not re-elected. She moved into the Governor’s chair when Janet Napolitano, our Democratic Governor , went to work for President Obama. We got saddled with this old hag because we did not have a Lt. Gov and she was our Sec of State.
She’s hideous – but she’s worse in person. Ugly inside/ugly outside.

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Why does Jan Brewer hate Americans?

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Not likely that Obamacare will bring a rise in the rank. We need politicians who will aim for the No. 1 position.

Keith Olbernann has been reporting on this story for weeks, and as far as I know was the first person or news outlet to do so. He has also been linking to a website that is taking contributions for the two cases that he has been watching, one heart transplant and the other a liver transplant. Both transplant patients who KO has interviewed along with their families on his show, are for young men in their 30s with wives and children who are either out of work because of job loss or because of their actual physical conditions, since both seem too far advanced now to be employable. If you go to the original segment on this you can get the donation information.

This is how Republicans balance their budgets. It is truly an abomination. Where is Sarah Palin on this? Seen any tweets from her on this? I didn’t think so!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/ns/msnbc_tv-countdown_with_keith_olbermann/#40282410

If this doesn’t give you the story you can find it at Friday, November 19th. There you will find the place where you can donate to the groups helping put the funds together for these two families.

Government by the rich, of the rich and for the rich. Welcome to GOP land AKA known as The USA!

Republican led legislation led to this bill?!? Weren’t the Republicans the decrying “Obama’s death panel”? Talk about simple psychological projections. What fricking turds.

YES! I had to read this twice. Cold not believe what I was reading.

Don’t you mean the gift that keeps on taking?

When Republican leaders finally succeed in bringing fascism to America, they will make sure it is called “anti-fascism”…

Why are you not for equality when it comes to taxation? Every person should pay the same percentage. People who share your opinion are trying to start a class war. And the answer you will get it…let them eat cake.

Insurance companies change what they will cover all the time. And if you are on the tax payer funded insurance, you are subject to the same changed.

If the people who need transplants paid for their own insurance, they could pick the one that satisfied their needs.

less poor = less crime less murder less theft less drain on resources paid by those that work

George Clooney et al had some huge telethon for Haiti…why doesn’t he host one for people that need medical treatments? Guess he doesn’t care about Americans ….

why are you defending the wikirapist?

This is one of the primary reasons why many of us want a “single-payer” health system in the US. This situation will only get worse… What if it was YOUR relative?

Its called survival of the fittest. If you can provide for yourself…you live…if not you die. Wasn’t there some scientist who had some theory thing about this…?

This is the world they envision…where those with wealth and access prosper…and all others serve and die at the mercy of fate. You can have all the ideological battles you want…it always come back to this: either you are pushing for humanity and civilization as a whole to embrace something better than a modified form of feudalism…or you are pushing FOR a modified form of feudalism and somehow believe that the lords of your little fiefdom will show favor to you and treat you well if you just give them everything and place your trust in them.

Get your torches and pitchforks…this ain’t gonna be pretty.

why has no one attacked the rich doctors or hospitals….why don’t the doctors donate their time to save these lives?

Why are you so against paying for what you want?

fascism is here… smell the coffee.

witch hazel and her russell pearce nazi mormon brigade coming to your state soon… as well as their privately run mormon concentration camps… and their blasphemous and loon religion.

This is how it should be… too many underprivileged African-Americans are getting second-class education and living in squalor because whitey is getting expensive healthcare to keep them alive for another week.

Less poor=less crime, less murder.
Put them in the military and just don’t look at what they do!
They won’t be poor on the tax money you are giving them, too!
Stimulate, stimulate, stimulate the economy, baby!

I’m in complete agreement with your points. I only differ in that I don’t think we’re likely to see any major protest of these issues in the foreseeable future…reason being that those most affected by this are bombarded constantly by messages from the Conservative Media Complex telling them “everything’s OK, it won’t happen to you, no worries, go about your lives…” again and again and again…..until the message is internalized and you find yourself voting for/supporting people or policies that are against your interests.

Jay Gould is said to have noted: “I could pay one half the Working Class to kill the other half”…If he’d lived to this day, he might have been faintly amused that his words are coming true….

Looks like george bush’s compassionate conservetisim has come to it’s full bloom.

I’m learning that if you want to see the true Republican agenda, observe what they accuse their opponents of doing. During the Health Care debates it was all “Obama is going to have death panels” but which party is making it a reality.

No doubt that the GOP will be able to come up with some spin bullshit about how the GOP death panels are not the same as the alleged Obama death panels.

Wow, what an uninformed post. Many people who are in need of transplants have been denied coverage by insurance companies OR have been dropped because their expenses have become too great.

Unbelievable. I’ll just bet you call yourself a Christian, too. Not what the Christ I follow taught.

lets start a movement, I stipulate on my organ donor card, that my organs are only to go to poor people who are denied medicaid, either use it or lose it.

If the rich do not keep us healthy, they will not have good “parts” for their use after they ruin their bodies by eating rich foods, drinking, and sitting on their asses scheming ways to fuck us over. Another merry fucking xmas from the Charles Dickens world of the tories.

Jan Brewer is death itself, badly disguised with some dried leather pasted to her skull.

MURDER by Legislation … passed by UNCARING politicians, who themselves [of course] have the luxury of publically funded healthcare, the same kind of healthcare they deny to others !!!!!

There is a phrase for this policy and others like it: mass murder. In Nazi Germany, we condemn it. In contemporary America, we praise it because it is “good for business.” The only difference today is that we have learned to kill people more slowly and with more nuance than the efficient but unsubtle Auschwitz oven. There will come a time when we all recognize legislators, judges, doctors, and HMO CEO’s for their complicity in mass murder–and then the scales of social Darwinism will tip fast and hard.

in a time that we are spending billions on wars, we spend billions on foreign aid that we spend billions on simply electing someone, the fact that we will let one of our senior citizens die because we can’t pay for the Medicare is absolutely criminal.

And anyone who goes along with this is complicit to criminal action, and anyone who doesn’t attempt to stop it is just as complicit. Of course we know nothing will be done for the people of this country as long as we are killing people elsewhere or propping up countries and other places. This pisses me off

Actually, Darwin didn’t have the whole story. Sometimes, survival of the fittest means those who know how to cooperate. And now, the fact is that we’re facing a world-wide calamity thanks to those who believe that survival of the fittest refers only to ruthless individuals.

Humanity never survived as individuals – only as members of communities. Americans seem to believe in a mythical past that never existed.

and look what happened to the french aristocracy. I hope you’re part of the american ruling class janefi for I have a friend you should meet…monsieur guillotine.

And there are some insurance companies that cover much more than other companies. If you want that coverage..then pay for it.

Why are you not for equality when it comes to taxation? Are you not for equality? Then taxation should be a part of that.

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Pathetic!

http://weaselzippers.us/2010/12/03/alaska-planned-parenthood-group-to-sell-abortion-gift-certificates-for-christmas/

Planned Parenthood is funded by guess who? Barack Obama’s moneyman – George Soros

http://saynsumthn.wordpress.com/2010/08/03/planned-parenthood-action-fund-board-members-former-activist-for-obama-for-america-former-ceo-of-the-democratic-national-committee-advisor-to-george-soros/

“Republican Gov. Jan Brewer’s office described it as a “literally as a last resort” option to bridge the state’s budget shortfall.”

Bullshit! Jan Brewer and her cohorts despise poor people, especially poor Hispanic people. Brewer and her minions will let them die so that they could have more ill gotten booty for themselves.

Brewer has evil and sunken eyes. Anyone who would let a fellow human being die is the epitome of evil.

Yet she spent and overspent on private jails that allowed multiple escapes. What a hag.

janefi, the troll is back and trolling for the Rethuglicans.

Governor Brewer is able to get a transplant. Her taxpayers are not able to receive a transplant.
Brewer’s health insurance is paid for by taxpayer money. It is a contrast of wealth, pure and simple.

I understand now. Blacks were poor and enslaved because they were lower on the evolutionary scale. You are a racist fucking asshole.

Mexico wouldn’t want it. Too corrupt.

Can’t seem to answer a question….typical rat.

Arizona is busy paying for prisons, lobbyists, and corruption.

NPR spent the past several months analyzing hundreds of pages of campaign finance reports, lobbying documents and corporate records. What they show is a quiet, behind-the-scenes effort to help draft and pass Arizona Senate Bill 1070 by an industry that stands to benefit from it: the private prison industry.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130833741

Actually the majority of blacks that were sold into slavery…it was by their own people that sold them.

When Palin was complaining about health care reform she wasn’t talking about these poor people. She was afraid that along with efforts to remove the requirement for wealth to get good health care, somehow some people who are rich would not continue to get better health care than the rest of us. The teaparty is made up mainly of rich, older white people who want to strengthen the capitalist system that measures worth in all things by wealth, which suits them as they have the wealth. “I’ve got mine, to hell with you” is their motto. The poor are obviously undeserving or they wouldn’t be poor. Survival of the greediest. That shouldn’t surprise or puzzle anyone. Those of us who disagree just need to understand what we are fighting and work harder toward more progressive ideals. Thank goodness there are some rich people with consciences to join the good fight.

Ignore janefi. I posted some links to help educate her the other day. No results. Dumb as a rock.

Republikkklans are such nice, white christians, aren’t they?

This just sickens me to the point where I don’t even have a witty retort to share. How anybody could possibly vote Republican when they obviously are so cold-hearted is beyond me.

schmuck!!!

Get a fuckin clue. The rape allegation? One for the condom breaking and the other they didn’t use one for round two. The “victims”? The texted each other in the days following.

Seems to me the State of AZ would benefit if Gov. Brewer self prescribed DEATH.

it’s all fucked up…welcome to America, land of the “only if you have money” free.

isn’t that something? fucking bitch.

Palin is finally right about something…done by a reslugliklan. Grayson was right, too: “Don’t get sick; if you do, die quickly.”

Sick people should go to work for KBR and Xe. They have billions of our tax dollars.

Arizona 'death panel'? State Medicaid cuts poised to let some poor ……

Here at World Spinner we are debating the same thing……

Death panels, thanks to the teapartyers. As are the cessation of unemployment benefits. And corporate welfare. We all thought they were drinking tea but turns out its was kool aid.

Where is Sister Sarah how come she is not speaking out against Gov. Brewer and the GOP death panels.

An article I read yesterday said Arizona had 300million+ in funds that have been ‘allocated’ but not disbursed in the budget. Brewers office wouldn’t respond to inquiries as to where the money was allocated.

They’ve got the money, they just have different priorities. It’s not about the money, it’s about the way Republicans have their heads screwed on. Jan Brewer is a monster.

SURVIVAL OF THE WEALTHIEST, JUST ANOTHER WAY OF SAYING SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST. NO MATTER HOW ONE ACCUMULATES THEIR WEALTH. SHITS TO BE WEAK AND/OR POOR.

It is illegal for men to not wear a condom in Sweden…unless married…and they classify it as a sex crime….as rape. So I guess you don’t respect the laws of other sovereign nations then…..typical.

I don’t get it. Conservatives are all about “pro-life” while the fetus is in the mother, right? Now, let that same fetus be born poor and suddenly it’s not unconscionable to let the child die due to lack of affordable medical access. So what they’re in effect saying is that life isn’t sacred after all?

Nah. AMERICANS don’t care about Americans.

Thank goodness they are chasing all them poor folks out of the state. What?? They have poor white folks too?

Well they must be very proud.

I wish gov. jan brewer’s C~ would rot from cancer and fall off

If you spent “more” money , you could get a better enema bag to wash your brain out.

If you spent “more” money , you could get a better enema bag to wash your brain out.

Fuck you’re stupid.

Well for one thing how about all these doctors who are so worried about these patients dying donating their services…?

Like you EVER answer the questions put to you. I’ve watched troll, you don’t and I reiterate, Jane you ignorant slut.

Complete lie. Jane you are such an ignorant slut.

Ignorant Slut Alert!!!!!

Ignorant Slut Alert!!!!!

Ignorant Slut Alert!!!!!

Ignorant Slut Alert !!!!!!!!

wellll how about you, Missy Susan, donating YOUR money, time skill,–your LIFE. What is the matter with people like you? Or how about demanding that hospitals not charge their $100-per-kleenex fees?? Is that too “socialistic” for you???

may YOU never need help, because you and the az assholes are no Good Samaritan.

not unless you can afford the tithes

just ask shurrif arapay-off where the money is: tucked away in his little pink panties.

A .006% tax on drugs sold in Arizona (only) would raise enough money to pay for all of the needed transplant.
But old scar-face JANE would lose all campaign drug((( doners)))!!!!!

selective deafness

acid-laced

yeah “suicide-by-legislation”

ooooohhhhhh. but don’t take HER health coverage away. or her MTV.

yep. she got that gold ring, and she ain’t lettin go.

you have taters for brains, darlin. if ya don’t want an abortion, DON’T GET ONE. if your FAITH disapproves, then go to your effing CHURCH

well we DO have electric chairs, a few gas chambers, and lethal injections. one small step for republicants, one giant LEAP for the economy: just arrest, imprison, and execute.

EXCELLENT IDEA. POST THIS EVERYWHERE. I WILL POST YOUR IDEA ON FB.

“Never Let Me Go” is not fiction after all.

exactly. one symptom of psychopathology is accusing others of what they themselves are thinking.

georgie senior’s “million points of light”: the dying eyes of the poor

Conservatives are Pro-life and Pro-death penalty.

oh c’mon. so fucking typical: blame good people who do good things, rather than direct your anger at the assholes who are actually DOING the wrong. DON’T YOU GET IT, FOOLS? Doing the RIGHT THING cannot be limited to your own little tiny “mememe” world. THAT is the attitudinal problem and THAT is why monsters like brew-head and boner and the becker and the lush are thriving.

why don’t you just cut to the chase, you fortunate idiot, and build an Auschwitz or a Baden-Baden. Oh wait. Arizona has one, along with that pug-ugly shurriff as administrator. oh. BTW where do you work?

of course, we can all plan for those things while we earn 8.00 an hour. the flaw you ignore is that the same tax-payer funded care that you refer to is NOT cutting the brewer’s health care.

with what? CHICKENS?? you are an idiot. may you know someday what it is like to lose your job, lose your home, lose your health, and lose your life. or better yet, apply all that to YOUR children.

there’s also a young woman, a basketball player/ref who needs a lung transplant. she’s had Cystic Fibrosis, and is coming up to the end. Of course no health insurance will pay. and, hey, janefi: she and her family have paid into the system you so admire their whole lives. what say you to that?

Thats on evil ugly bitch and I hope she gets hers real soon!

And the taxpayers foot the bill for her son, the molester, in his get out of jail free digs.

republican = reptile
jan brewer = republican
reptile = jan brewer

LOL!

Because Silly Sister Sarah is a lying wicked witch from the north!

Whats amazing is that this evil wh0re and her right wing thugs are getting away with this.

Democrats must be the most incompetent political party to lose to these criminals.

[...] Gov. Jan Brewer Sahil Kapur Raw Story [...]

The crypt keeper is alive and kickin’…thanks to taxpayer funded health care!

Just the black, brown, yellow and red ones. Oh, and anyone who believes in Democracy.

And by “whitey” we’re meaning who exactly?

Wouldn’t it be sell your gardeners lung?

If janefi has the sense God gave a goose, he/she will not come back and offer further proof of his/her total idiocy.

Se doesn’t hate all Americans… only poor ones.

Why don’t you organize a telethon? If you write to enough celebrities, one would probably support an event such as this… Quit leaving it to someone else to do.

I’m for people putting back in direct proportion to what they take out. THAT’S equality nutbag. Are you not for that?

Don’t read much, do you? Come on janefi… you’re stretching it now, even for someone of your rather limited mentality.

Don’t leave out the Republicans Beloved Pedifile, Rush Limbaugh!

Never met a right wing talking point you didn’t like, did you? I’m enjoying this.

Her story was particularly compelling since she is still employed by a Catholic High School as an assistant basketball coach but has no health insurance and evidently the Catholic School or the Catholic Church is not willing to pony up the money to help her get her lung transplant. I thought this was a particularly heinous aspect of her story. In fact, I was outraged.

Wow! You folks had this janefi character with his or her simple minded little bullsh*t platitudes around here long? Those “points” he/she/it keeps bringing up again and again were cussed, discussed and disposed of years ago.

Kathryn~ you’re an idiot…take a walk or something, your spiel is more vile than what you accuse people of

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Let me tell ya why don’t these people fight back against these monsters? If I had some kind of cancer or my kidneys were going and I had to die cuzz I didn’t have a million dollars, I think I would employ my second amendment rights to, how should I say, make sure I didn’t travel alone.

How about that photo at the top of this article? It looks like Jan got a dose of bad embalming fluid.

NEED! Not want.

Don’t forget Kyle!

No abortions, but eat the babies. Sounds like Teabagger Republicans to me.

They are pro-prelife and anti-life.

Many do and have. That doesn’t cover the rest of the costs of a hospital stay. That is seldom donated. As to why not… many reasons are given. Few are really valid.

Takes more than just a doctor to due a transplant. Some doctors are fighting to be allowed to do them but the hospitals are refusing to provide the necessarry resources.

Have you ever tried to sell anything when there was no one there to buy?

Sure. They started taxing food under her leadership (sic), why not drugs, too?

Excellent idea. We can at least construct a virtual wall online. Until it gets shut down that is.

It was on the network news on broadcast tv the day the it went into effect, here in Arizona. They were reporting about a man that was already prepped and anesthetized for his liver transplant when they pulled the plug and said no. He woke up to find out he didn’t have a new liver, and wasn’t going to get one. His daughter volunteered to provide part of her liver for him, but they said that won’t work because they would have to give it to someone else because he was no longer eligible for the livers under the new rules. The doctor argued for the transplant anyway and was overruled by the hospital bureaucracy. Talk about cold-heartes SOBs!

No, Janie herself told me she isn’t a Christian. What a relief to be able to strike her name from the list of CINO.

Janie is willfully ignorant, much like the beloved Say-rah. Don’t waste your time trying to educate that category. You would have better success educating said rock.

Only birth is sacred. After that… well, you’re on your own. No “entitlements” for you. No helping hand. Compassionate Conservatism?? ROTFLMFAO!!!

Many doctors have and do donate their services. Now, if you can get the hospitals to donate their services, and BigPharma to donate the meds good for you. They will then raise their rates to pay for said donations. We pay either way. THAT’S why we need single payer.

Thank you Dr Jonathan Swift, and thank you Kathryn for the timely reminder.

One needs a heart to keep living.
How do you manage without yours?

That’s true. It was a centuries old tribal cultural thing.
Also true of eastern europeans sold to turkish slave markets.
But the difference between those situations and american slavery was that a slave is still considered a person and in many cases could win back their freedom.
But in Virginia slaves were declared ‘property ‘and deprived of their humanity.

“Every person should pay the same percentage.”

So sorry, but “No.” Everyone at the same *level* of income should pay the same rate of tax… but to require that some be deprived of necessities so that others may enjoy more luxuries is a perverse result of a false notion of equality.

I grow to despise the conservative ideology each day.
Particularly those aspects that are influenced by Ayn Rand and faux christianity.

WikiLeaks founder says guards against death threats…

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Aren’t you so special. You got a job at McDonald’s and that makes you so much better than all those people who lost their jobs because of clowns who don’t know how to run a country or a business, yet these clowns get huge bonuses and government perks, even though they ruined everyones life by causing everyone to lose their jobs, caused the company to nearly go bankrupt, and screwed up the country big time. With bonuses and perks there is no reason for the clowns to work, To the clowns you are a serf, a slave, an ass kisser, a fart catcher, less than a worm. Now go back to work like a good little nothing.

LCL: Yes, and have you ever listened to her talk? Her FT’s (false teeth), go ‘click, click, click. What a hideous woman, however, AZ voters must find something endearing about her. Too bad they are losing their once booming tourist industry. No way will I ever visit. Not until they show some human qualities. I doubt that will happen anytime soon. Take a look at Johhny M., a shell of his former self and the one who placed that miserable Sarah P. on our shoulders. Creep.

Are we going to hear a tweet form Ms. Palin on the real death panel in Arizona? These families are desperately trying to raise private funds before it’s too late. Ms. Palin should do the Christian thing and donate money from the millions she’s been making since quitting as governor. Too bad these families can’t crossover to Canada as Palin did as a child to get healthcare.

There are no Republican death panels. They are all Dem death panels.

Sarah P told us on national TV that they were all Dem death panels. I believe anything she says.

–signed, A Teatard

Yes. And one of it’s major investor’s is Dick Cheney. He spent heavily on the prison system in the last three years!

Yes. And one of it’s major investor’s is Dick Cheney. He spent heavily on the prison system in the last three years!

I think that what all of this is proving, is that it is time to reboot the system. Scrap it all, and start over. Govt. has gotten so large that the left hand doesn’t know what the right hand is doing, and both feet are kicking at something they cannot even see. Everyone is trying to patch the problem but, like a tire with a hole in it, with each falling patch, the cost just keeps going up. Eventually, you need to throw out the tire and buy a new one.
It appears that we need a whole new set of tires, if we plan to keep our country rolling…..

“Compassionate” and “conservative” should never be used in the same sentence unless there’s a negative in place (e.g., she’s no compassionate conservative, is she?). If you’re looking for a charitable attitude or an understanding heart or a helping hand, you are likely to find it among Democrats. And to think the RepublicaNO!s usually like to think of themselves as Christian. So much for the Golden Rule.

Republican cuts in Medicaid REAL Death Panels…

As Republicans dig in to protect that 2% of Americans who make over $250,000 a year (that is after deductions and paid only on the amount above $250k which is always lost in this discussion) they are not only denying the extension of unemployment benef…

One of my favorites.

Our Constitution was barely passed the first time. There was huge conflict. To get it through the right to own, torture, sell and kill other human beings had to be accomidated. Start Over? Why not wish for a pony while you’re at it? We can’t agree to extend unemployment benefits or raise taxes on the one percent of people who have come to own twenty five percent of the wealth in this country. We can’t agree on anything. We could never cobble together another Constitution. We will be very lucky if we are ever able to even change the one we have a little bit.

We still don’t tax food in Arizona, backward as we are.

I don’t blame you for feeling as you do. Jan has done an amazing job of making Arizona a pariah state. I just want to remind folks that Arizona has a large but outvoted population of liberals who cannot sell houses and businesses and leave. Flagstaff and Tucson are very liberal cities. If you change your mind and come to Arizona you will find lovely, like minded folks.

Pathetic! Obamacare is turning a blind-eye!

http://weaselzippers.us/2010/12/03/alaska-planned-parenthood-group-to-sell-abortion-gift-certificates-for-christmas/

Planned Parenthood is funded by guess who? Barack Obama’s moneyman – George Soros

http://saynsumthn.wordpress.com/2010/08/03/planned-parenthood-action-fund-board-members-former-activist-for-obama-for-america-former-ceo-of-the-democratic-national-committee-advisor-to-george-soros/

You’re a pathetic obnoxious uncaring asshole!

Brewer is as corrupt and evil as they come. And the ignorant reptiles in AZ elected her by a landslide.

Off topic, but you get the idea…….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqPiCmXSkAM
http://tucsoncitizen.com/cell-out-arizona/tag/jan-brewer/
http://americasvoiceonline.org/blog/entry/npr_az_politicians_profit_off_of_sb_1070

Many of the voters in Arizona that vote republican are not self-thinkers. They are clueless about Brewer et al., and want to remain that way. People in rural areas generally do not have satellite radio and rely on their ministers, rush limbaugh and glenn beck for “news”. I’ve seen klansmen drive through small southern towns in their pickup trucks proudly displaying confederate flags. They think they’re cute and rebellious, not deranged jackasses. And don’t forget the enormous power of the cult in Arizona called the mormans. Most of them don’t realize they are cultist and simply do what they’re told. They’ve been brainwashed from birth. Republican politicians have recognized these groups and use them to their advantage. They are quite successful in getting them to vote against anyone they label a liberal, aka anyone that’s not a hate-mongering biggot. Despite the bad PR we do have good people in Arizona. We’re not all angry white gun totin’ god fearin’ toothless wonders!

Does nay body think the concept of ‘death panels’ came from a Democratic hegemony?
NO!!!!
This was an idea hatched by the republican’ts – lonnnnng ago – to curtail medicaide and as a sort of ‘cleansing’. Not necessarily etnic or racial, but if that’s the impact, they’re comfortable with it. They are actually targeting poverty. It’s their version of LBJ’s ‘War on Poverty’.

Unlike LBJ’s which required redistribution of revenues and resulted in a more equitable dispersion of wealth, theirs will work wonders … very Darwinian in outcome – the sick, halt, lame, and disabled go the way of the lazy. Too lazy to raise the money to live.

That woman looks like a BITCH Typical ReThugliCON The richest people in the world are Democratic progressives The GREEDIEST people in the world are ReThugliCONS I wish they would just Fu**ing go away.

this is the republican plan dont get sick, and if you do…. die fast. quote from alan grason

So death panels ARE real?

I’m glad I don’t live in the U.S

in fighting the health care bill john mccain railed against the government getting between a doctor and the patiant, deciding peoples fate, etc. he is conspiculously silent as his home state does just that.

Every time I see Sharon Angle on TV, all I see is HATE, I don’t even think she likes herself. What she needs is mental therapy.

GOP = Love you in the womb, don’t care if you die if you aren’t one of their donors….

Pretty sad isnt it? I bet our fore fathers are spinning in their graves at all the corruption of today’s bought and paid for politicians!

http://www.real-privacy.edu.tc

Arizona. What a state. I am SO glad I don’t live there.

[...] Arizona ‘death panel’? State Medicaid cuts poised to let some poor patients die Arizona death panel? State Medicaid cuts poised to let some poor patients die. A law in Arizona that cuts Medicaid funding for certain transplant operations is likely to bring about the deaths of poor residents in need of such procedures. [...]

Republicans please tell me what the devil gave you for your soules?

A budget-busting pox on your house.

You are aware that health care is the #1 cause of personal bankruptcy in the nation, right? Is that what you refer to when you say, “Why are you so against paying for what you want?”
How about when your own inevitable health issue drains every bank account in your family to save your miserable life?

[...] So how come these same wingnuts aren’t raising hell about THIS? [...]

What do you expect. Obamacare takes billions from mediacare, thats a death panel itselfe. Maybe if Obama would do its job and closed the border this wouldn’t have happened.

He’s probably a closet gay masquerading as a Nazi!

When you look at Brewers face you will see the face of an uncaring,mean,spiteful witch who cares about nothing but herself and her power to dictate the life and death of poor people.
I am sure if it were a family member or even herself that needed this procedure, it would be done without hesitation.
But this is Arizona where the law doesn’t count and can be changed at will by a few republican demons, then the rest have to live with it.
Dr Bob
Professor of Law

You are a typical Heartless Tea bagging greedy soul.. On judgement day you will pay !!!

Most states are trimming medicaid benefits in some way……WA ST has discontinued it’s dental/vision care, even emergency. It no longer even offers a state plan for low income insurance if you don’t qualify for medicaid. Medicaid is available only to children, disabled, destitute elderly and only adults with children. Medicaid is NOT this wonderful “cover everybody who is destitute” plan – it only covers the edges of the worst needs.

More like Hilters killing of the sick.. Tea Party Republicans are really Nazis!!!! Hope they burn in hell with Hitler!!

Said by a true Nazi pig!!

Jan brewer is Hitler reincarnated in a dress!!

Why don’t you donate your brain to science as your evil and selfish mind has to be studied!!

There is no lack of money. There is only a lack of accountability,There is more money floating around than ever before, it’s just being hoarded by the few. There is a reason that Greed is the root of many evils. It is because Greed has a domino affect that falls on the lives of many but not in a good way of course. As Government and The Multi-National Corporations became more corrupt and less transparent it is a wake-up call for the civilian. A wake-up call to unite and begin helping one another. Times are uncertain and hard times can fall upon anyone. In danger of sounding like a hallmark card and possibly being ridiculed I’ll say it nonetheless. Please…this holiday season reach out and share your gifts & talents with others…even if it’s in the smallest of ways. We are in fragile times and now is the time for us (the people) to shine.

I am glad for you also. STAY RIGHT WHERE YOU ARE!

By the way it is GRAYSON…You know, one-term 18-point incumbant loser, Grayson.

I fail to see how Republicans murdering people at the behest of their corporate pimps is news.

well Dr Bob “Professor of law” Ever person should carrie an ID with a picture on it, and expect to show it when asked by a law man. you do at Banks, airports, etc. so why not law men. And when voting should be manatory. And the picture’s RawStory come’s up with makes me laugh, never a good one.

Just what city do you live in? We are taxed around 2% on food!

They are only pro-life when it comes to a woman’s ability to choose.

Thanks. That bit of info escaped me even tho it doesn’t surprise me.

Please get off Obama’s dick, man, and find your own. Planned Parenthood is a worthwhile organization for those who have nowhere else to turn.

Republicans are the new servants of Satan. End of story

The health care bill only reduced planned increases in the future. It has no connection whatsoever to this new atrocity.

There’s a class war all right. And the rich are making a killing.

While health insurance CEOs fly around in Lear jets sipping $500-a-bottle champagne and laughing themselves silly.

It’s “incumbent,” Mr. Know-it-all.

I’m surprised you can even type, with an IQ equal to broccoli.

I think that you have mistook your brain for your nipples… Take the wrench off then maybe the voices will stop, the headaches will go away and you will be able to think and spell.

Nah. What she needs is to become mulch.

Ron White should sue your ass off for using his alias in such a limp-dicked, brain-dead manner.

Thank you. The class of earners now bitching about a 4% increase in their taxes gained 380% in income during the Bush years.

Greedy frigging swine.

Death panels got a real boost from darling Sarah and that genius Charles Grassly from Iowa. Enough said.

Those folks should move.

She is the crypt keeper wife.

For people like you theres just one word. “kissmyass”

Let me put it this way, although it isn’t news, it is fact and a fact that
supports a finding of hypocrisy, and an opportunity to investigate their
attempts to abrogate health coverage.

Tate’s an emotional wreck. His dutch-uncle contributed copiusly to planned
parenthood’s prevention department, just in case there was a li’l Tater#2.

Decent pun, there. tell me when my jealosy must cease

Actually, you must be kinder to broccoli, after all we have ‘Cubby’ Broccoli
to thank for James Bond and comparasons of rob to broccoli is insulting both
broccolis

But how mulch good wood it due the wrest of us?

I’d like to introduce you to Nat Hentoff, a highly principled liberal who supported the Civil Rights movement and women’s rights, and who is pro-life as was Martin Luther King, Jr.

http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/users/rauch/nvp/hentoff.html

http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/users/rauch/nvp/consistent/hentoff_feminist2.html

http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/users/rauch/nvp/consistent/hentoff_rights.html

http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/users/rauch/nvp/consistent/hentoff.html

In what possible way is Obama care relevant to this situation? That is just childish. Arizona choosing not to fund health care is not related to health care reform. Most of the provisions of health care reform won’t kick in until 2014, and not at all if conservatives have their way. And if George Soros is contributing to Planned Parenthood that is his right as a citizen. Only good can come from planning children and only having them when they are wanted and can be afforded.

“Does anybody think the concept of ‘death panels’ came from a Democratic hegemony?”

Yes, from one of Obama’s health policy advisors, Zeke Emanuel,MD. A paper describing the de facto transition from treating human beings as persons, as individuals in regard to their receiving health care, to treating them as fungible goods, as resources to be exploited and then thrown away once used is linked to below.

http://econopundit.com/ezekiel…

This is proof that this fucking wildebeest is not the real governor. I’d bet it is some evil cactus running the joint. Who the fuck would actually include transplants in budget cuts? That’s like a major FUCK YOU to infinity for anyone who needs one but happens to be poor. Who knows that they will ever need a transplant?
Whoever is pulling the strings in that state is trying to push the entire bill onto non-profits, thus financially ruining that sector out of the transplant business. For Governor Brewer both organ transplant denial and suicide are painless.

SATAN: You rang?

Jan Brewer is really Eddie from Iron Maiden:
http://www.solarnavigator.net/music/music_images/Iron_Maiden_Iron_Maiden_record_album_cover_Eddie.jpg

When I look at Brewer’s face, I see a long term smoker. When I see the GOVERNOR in front of her name, I know she will get the best health care for ALL the health problems she might encounter. At tax payer expense.

Wouldn’t you have to take your diapies off?

Medicare is a separate program. The Congress sets the rates.

Too bad you’re so stupid you didn’t know that already.

That is assuming the right wing nuts have a soul.

I don’t disagree with your comment. I would add that they are spinning at the interpretations given the Constitution by the extremeists.

Big donors. Little donors can die. Well, after they vote.

I have no problem with broccolli. As long as it is on someone elses plate.

Hmmmm……I wonder if Brewer is cutting the mental health budget too? Doubt it.

Jan Brewer’s Criminally Insane Son and His Mysteriously Sealed File
http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2010/09/jan_brewers_criminally_insane.php

A Maricopa County Superior Court judge on Monday ordered the release of criminal records on Gov. Jan Brewer’s son, who has lived at the Arizona State Hospital for most of the past 20 years. Even though Ronald Brewer’s file was open for nearly 20 years, it was sealed in early 2009 as it became clear that Jan Brewer would move from the Secretary of State’s Office to become governor.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/election/azelections/articles/2010/09/14/20100914jan-brewer-son-medical-records.html

Ah yes, another one that posts something they have no idea of what it is about.

A scholarly paper is not an Administration Policy Paper. The paper discusses the various values required for any health system to consider. Including what America has today.

Alaska Planned Parenthood Group To Sell Abortion Gift Certificates For Christmas

Love it.

Planned Parenthood is funded by many sources. If Soros donates, good for him. His contributions are welcome.

But then I guess you would prefer all fetuses be born so a significant number can later die in the streets.

I have no idea of Hentoff’s politics. They are his business. None of that explains your trolling or absolves the right wing nuts of their attack on a woman’s bodies.

Can we forget that the Democrats Health Reform Law was supposed to have death panels? Well here they are made public in the hands of REPUBLICANS. Where are the Republicans now and Sarah Palin to defend these death panel practices? These people ( and I use that term loosely) are silent and must be in agreement with Brewer. Heartless, non-compassionate, cold, brutal and extremely evil these people have been elected by Americans? I am shaking my head in shame as they claim to be human as I and all profess to be Christian Right Wingers. Such hypocrisy. I there would ever be a Revolution it will be carried out by people with a conscience, people who are humane, people with true morals. If 2012 gives these people power again I will move to Canada!

thank you LOL and oh yea actually America lost when we all lost him, he was totaly right and this article proves the death camps are actually republican medical plans….
they own it now…
 and if tax breaks for the trillionairs was such a good idea after nearly 8 years why was the econimy facing total melt down?
oh yea blaim it on clinton right?….
have a cup of tea and dont let the bag hit the chin..
bless you and have a good day
floyd

“Ronald Brewer, 46, is not just mentally ill. He was deemed criminally insane in 1990, following a July 1989 arrest and subsequent indictment for the sexual assault and kidnapping of a Phoenix woman. According to a Phoenix Police Department report dated July 29, 1989, Brewer, then an unemployed 25-year-old, forced his way into a woman’s apartment on West Indian School Road and threatened to hurt her “real bad” if she didn’t engage in sexual acts, including” …

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2010/09/jan_brewers_criminally_insane.php

Great Find …. So great I stole it … Thx !

Hehehehehehee…

This (jan’s) Fucking brewer gene pool is one I hope drys up …

My advice to you is to stick with your spelling and let the big boys talk politics. Get bent!

Yes America lost comic relief. The death panels are real and coming to a democratic Obamacare neighborhood near to you. You guys actually thought that we could provide free medical treatment for an additional 30 million people without higher costs and the making of some very difficult treatment decisions. What a joke!

The problem with libeals…errr Progessives…or whatever you nom de jour, is that you see things as you want them to be, rather than as they actually are. In your world we provide medical care to everyone at no additional cost..tuition to undocumneted aliens without raising it for everyone else and elect Presidents without any experience without repurcussions.

You guys actually thought that we could provide free medical treatment for an additional 30 million people without higher costs and the making of some very difficult treatment decisions. What a joke!

You guys actually thought that we could provide free medical treatment for an additional 30 million people without higher costs and the making of some very difficult treatment decisions. What a joke!

Pathetic. The tea parties are the opposite of Nazis…The Nazi government controlled everything in Germany..The tea partiers want less government. Typical LIB: When you do not understand something in politics shout “Nazi” or “Racist!” and everything will be OK.

Wow,I thought you Americans were united in the love of your country and fellow countrymen?. you know the idiotic jingoistic mantra that gives you all Yanks, an erection. “America. God’s favorite country”,”shining beacon of freedom and democracy,land of the braves…bla bla bla…”

But I am discovering that you, Rob, the cornerstone of patriotism and grand Americana,is willing to sacrifice millions of your beloved countrymen?.

Your are doing the job for Al Qaida……:)

She even LOOKS like the Wicked Witch of the West. She looks like she would enjoy running a deathpanel. She will get what she deserves.

I live in Flagstaff. Your tax is in fact a city tax, not a state tax. The state tax rate is about 7%. But hey, Flag is really expensive to live in. You still win for costs, I’m sure.

Isn’t Judge Ginsburg of a left wing leaning? You know what eugenics is? Maybe not. You don’t appear that bright really. And, incidentally, I would suggest you are trolling around here. Your comments are generally inane and uninformed – and you display a psychopathic tendency, specifically accusing me of your own fault – trolling.

But back to Judge Ginsburg – she said the following (I remind you of the idea of eugenics; do look it up if you don’t know what it is):

“Frankly I had thought that at that time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of.”
Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg 7/2/09

Another foolish comment, Fuzzie. This paper was produced at the NIH under the auspices of the Department of Bioethics – a doublespeak name if ever there was one. Now, Obama took Emanuel on as health policy advisor precisely because of his unethical ideas.

In future I will no longer respond to you. You appear to be uneducable. And I have better things to do. Take this as fair warning to go and waste time and space elsewhere.

Hey! shiz 4 brainz —

When we yell Nazi, we know what we’re saying. We know one when we see it.
Same with racists. Rickens is the only one accusing you. Maybe he knows
you while we don’t!

No! We came up with an algorythym that does reward people for being
wealthy. Now some wealthy antquarian has you out thefre beating the bushes
for pennies, carrying the water for a wealthy family. Shame on you!

Rob’s got it ass-backwards … as usual. Cheese Pizza can’t you get
anything right? You really afre giving broccoli a bad name. Why don’t you
switch to rutabeggas – you’re already in a rut.

I keep telling you guyse – be nice to the broccoli, it doesn’t deserve to be
associated with roccoli-bob

Nagh — Tate wants ‘em to grow up poor so he can use them in the war on
paverty.

If there be one floret of broccoli and two plates – I am the ONE who will
eat.

Not really; they may die after writing the check; the vote was already
bought – the check paid for it.

I told you his nappies were being used for socks

Tater also misses the point: Their argument of states rights negates their
criticism of the Affordable Care Act with respect to the death panels. I
reiterate this is the republican’ts opening salvo in their war on poverty.
From their perspective it’ll be more effective than LBJ’s.

Last time I looked his nappies were saggies … down to his ankles!

You’re full of shit. Insurance compasmnies have been doing death panels
for 40 years – that’s documented, maybe longer if anecdotal cases are
considered.

It is an entirely different universe when you have given government the power to make life and death decisions over a population that has no power of its own, no self-respect.

Roe v. Wade gave government the power to dictate when life begins. No longer a fact of nature, the beginning of life has become an official event. I have every expectation that with the sorely lacking health reform bill combined with an exploding economic crisis, and the continued overspending on killing brown people across the world, and the media inspired political and class polarities, the end of life too will become dictated by government.

Surely you are not so blind as to be unaware of the increasing illicit powers of the federal government and its ancillary federal police force, and the inherent dangers that accompany such developments. If you don’t get it I am forced to believe that you just don’t want to think any more deeply than is minimally required. If that is the case, I’m afraid you would not know nuance if struck you between the eyes. LOL!

The illegal wars cost far more per day than it would cost for all to have adequate health care. Do you and your wife make your cushy livings on those wars?

Certainly the Neo Left would not adopt them, or undertake the charity to care for them, or educate them to be self-actualizing, competent, critically thinking individuals, encourage them to attain their potential. No, you and the Neo Left would want government to pay for them to have miserable fatherless lives in ghettos, mired in demeaning and profoundly degenerate poverty, hopeless and beaten before they have even become adults.

Kill ‘em before they’re born! What a perverted sickness it is you proclaim to love, what grotesque amorality! And you call this humanism? It is in-humanism.

Did we hear about this on Fox? Aren’t they the leading authority on Death Panels? In fact, don’t they employ the creative inventor of that term?

People – VOTE !! when voter turnout is less than 40% this is what happens.

Why do the poorest people either vote for the richest candidates or these uneducated tea-baggers – neither care about the poor – They ONLY care about making more money and moving up the government party gravy chain – That is IT.

What insurance does Brewer have – who pays if she needs a transplant? Do we get to vote on it? Does she have a heart to transplant ?!

Brewer balanced the budget on the health of her constituents and one man died – it was on the news and no one seemed to care – esp Brewer – If you dont want that to keep happening more action must be shown by many.

Getting to the “I know one when I see it” category….JACKASS!

When it comes to trolling, Jaime, you’re the troll – around here, but not at
limbo’s. You will have to prove the remark you’ve quoted isn’t being taken
out of context. As far as I’m concerned, you’re a simple liar and simply a
… liar.

That is an entirely different universe when you have given government the
power to make life and death decisions over a population that has no power
of its own, or self-respect. That is why we have a Democratic Party … to
keep the republican’ts from doing this. shrub and reagan stripped respect
from working men & women and while they were out of office Clinton put the
emphasis on the Macro-economy, not social issues. O’Bama’s mandate is to
repair thye damage done by shrub’s cronies. shrub himself is too stupid to
do this himself.

Roe v. Wade gave government the power to dictate when life begins. No longer
a fact of nature, the beginning of life has become an official event. I have
every expectation that with the sorely lacking health reform bill combined
with an exploding economic crisis, and the continued overspending on killing
brown people across the world, and the media inspired political and class
polarities, the end of life too will become dictated by government. False
argument about relationship between nature and life. Nature doesn’t define
anything. As a nation of laws, we must define terms – universally. That you
don’t agree with the definition is just too fucking bad. You lost.

Surely you are not so blind as to be unaware of the increasing illicit
powers of the federal government and its ancillary federal police force, and
the inherent dangers that accompany such developments. If you don’t get it I
am forced to believe that you just don’t want to think any more deeply than
is minimally required. If that is the case, I’m afraid you would not know
nuance if struck you between the eyes. LOL! The illicit mpowers disappeared
with the inauguration of O’Bama. I’m quite sure I’m guilty of being shallow
by your standards. Your standards don’t count. You lost. I’m a Bridge Player
… Nuance is my middle name. I’m a golfer … nuance is needed on every
green. I’m a former Strong Safety … nuance is for wusses. Bellicosity is a
form of Statecraft, except in the shrub’s administration. He did not
diplomacy before turning V Corps loose on Iraq.

The illegal wars cost far more per day than it would cost for all to have
adequate health care. Do you and your wife make your cushy livings on those
wars? Those illegal wars are the product of the worst president in U.S.
history. All of the republican’t immorality came to a head under shrub &
smirky. Single payer medical care or Medicare for all is one of my goals.
Yes we EARN our living from the Military-Industrial Complex. I’m retired, a
senior Command Staff Officer, Lawyer, Vineyard owner; my life-partner is a
VA executive. We are VERY plugged in to the Military-Industrial Complex. I
am probably the most liberal here.

Let’s hear a cheer for Arizona. America’s Mississippi (or Alabama) of the 21st century. Let those illegal aliens die of thirst in the Sonoran desert and let the poor die of neglect. Hitler could have retired to Phoenix and fit right in.

You have no connection to reality. Simply put, your are either a liar or
delusional.

Can’t read, either, can you?

I’m a Jockass. I have a jockular personality. I am constantly jockeying
for positions of advantage, and I just found another one.

Haven’t I … Rockcola-Bob?

I have the greatest respect for Britain and her people. As Roosevelt’s trusted advisor, Harry Hopkins told British leaders at the time of Britain’s darkest hour, BEFORE Pearl Harbor:

Before Hopkins returned to deliver his verdict to Roosevelt, Lord Beaverbrook gave a small dinner party for him and it was there that he rose to give a toast. “I suppose you wish to know what I am going to say to President Roosevelt on my return,” he said. “Well I am going to quote to you one verse from the Book of Books: ‘Whither thou goest, I will go and where thou lodgest I will lodge, thy people shall be my people, and thy God my God.’”

That being said:

I love when former colonialist bandits talk about sacrifices. England was always trying to rule an empire on the cheap. They did so by creating and or exacerbating ethnic and racial tensions wherever they ruled. Answer this: What do the current struggles in these areas have in common?

India/ Pakistan
Arab/Jew (Palistine)
Africans/Caucasions (South Africa)

A history of do-good Englishmen, trying to bridge ethnic differences? NOT!

What exacrtly was the difference between Gungha Din and Benedict Arnold…The level of British success in using lackeys to repress the indigineous?

I was not “lecturing”you , dear friend,I was being sarcastic…..I couldn’t care less about what others do,that’s not my problem. As to my home country, to make it short, I don’t give a fly fuck about the UK,or any other countries to that effect ….I have no loyalty to ethnic or nationalistic principle whatsoever. My country had done nothing for me,on the contrary, I am paying taxes & the State is not giving anything back, fuck the State. I am like you Republicans, I am individualist, I couldn’t care less about the good of the majority. Life is a jungle, you fight for yourself or you die with the mass.

I have no idea as to why you are so susceptible with me, Rob, Unlike your liberal nemesis,I never called you a Nazi or even a “racist pig” :) I am just sarcastic and cynical. I told you I didn’t believe in nothing, I am not an idealist & I have no intention or hope of changing the world.

After me the apocalypse…..Human kind is a deadly virus, we destroy and corrupt everything we touch.Look at what we have done throughout ages, mostly butchering ourselves relentlessly, human nature is evil and scatological by essence. I am not buying all this crap about changing people, even less of changing society. You and your liberal friends are two sides of the same coin, you both believe in changing the world, I don’t. I gave up utopia a long time ago….

Unless you are criminally insane like her son, I guess Alan Grayson was right after all the republicans want you to die which is why they put so much money into the defeat of him.

Arizona is really working hard to reduce it’s population. Let’s all help it out and make sure we don’t go there.

I guess there is nothing wrong with a death panel, as long as RIGHT-thinking white Americans are in charge.

well i guess the proof is going to be in the pudding so to speak hugh… in the north east there is a state with a progresive governor that is asking to do basicley create single payer medical state insurance, this will provide a cheeper insurance program than say a for profit insurance company that pays a ceo 40 million a year to the CEO who to trim costs to give his stock holders profit denies coverage and remodies for ailments, basicley as compared to our republican governor who is actually telling people they cant have life saving procedures…
and you are saying we shouldent provide care for free to just any one even children and americans sigh how can you look in the mirror? but in one of your recant responses you said we provide care to just anybody which we dont… the proof is in the death certificats you dont want to hear about…
dosent mean they arent happening.
yes if you are not healthy die and die fast…
i dont know if you are a veteran or not or reciving some kind of covernment coverage  or benifit like retirement or not but you can actually refuse government provided retirement and medical care if you really hhate it so much…
 i wouldent recomend it though….
but to each there own..
 can you believe those guys in the political world no tax cuts for the little guys  under 250 thousand year incomes…
yea it dose affect me probabually  dosent afect you though LOL
 enjoy your deficet curtisey of bush chenny bush one and ronald regon…
 bet you never bitched when chenny said deficets dont matter  did you…

Brewer and her puppetmasters won’t be happy until all us low income Arizonans are either in jail or dead.
But then who’s going to serve the cocktails at their millionaires-only fundraising soirees?

The End of FOOD Clothing Company…

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janedie you are an ignorant idiot.
It is not survival of the most fit.
It is survival of the richest and most facist.

Progressive rich donate time and money to the downtrodden.
Cons like you spend your time listening to Bleech and Oxyrush so you know how to feel.

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Good comment…especially regarding Jay Gould…his beliefs are studied by many…and I was just reading Mark Twain’s autobiography…where Twain lashes out at Gould without pulling any punches. I think Twain would have saddened to see a world where so many have chosen to emulate Gould instead of reviling him.

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(Quote)State Medicaid cuts poised to let some poor patients die(Quote)
Because Jan Brewer needs the money for a plastic surgery over haul.

See, Alan Grayson was right, republicans want you to die and to die quickly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__hvbEJkXyg&feature=related

Nice dodge….again why aren’t you attacking the rich doctors and demand they donate their time?

Clearly you can’t draw that line that connects those with money with being the most fit. But expecting logic from you or your ilk…is illogical.

This was novel. I wish I could read every post, but i have to go back to work now… But I’ll return.

I have worked as a nurse for 24 years. Many decision about healthcare are decided because of money. I have seen patients kept alive by machines for weeks because families are unable to let the family member die and the insurance is still paying. Someone has to pay for this cost. Usually not the families of these patients. Laws need to instruct doctors that they can’t save everyone and that they don’t have to live in fear of being sued if they don’t.

I have worked as a nurse for 24 years. Many decision about healthcare are decided because of money. I have seen patients kept alive by machines for weeks because families are unable to let the family member die and the insurance is still paying. Someone has to pay for this cost. Usually not the families of these patients. Laws need to instruct doctors that they can’t save everyone and that they don’t have to live in fear of being sued if they don’t.

67-70 And Gmc Truck Bumper To Grille Filler Panel…

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So the first real Death Panel was run by the Republicans who decried them. Wow.

So the first real Death Panel was run by the Republicans who decried them. Wow.

So the first real Death Panel was run by the Republicans who decried them. Wow.

So the first real Death Panel was run by the Republicans who decried them. Wow.

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N.S. baby healthy after marrow transplant…

A Lower Sackville, N.S., family that spent last Christmas in the hospital because baby Lily Mansfield was deathly ill is enjoying a happy and healthy holiday period this year. Lily Mansfield, 1, is all smiles this Christmas after her sister Emily saved…

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Would this not be a perfect criminal trial case for premeditated murder by healthcare denial?

Let’s review:
1. Who will be sued?
2. Who will sue?
3. What is the petitioner’s ‘standing’?
4. What is the cause of action?
5. What is the venue?

Before doing your ‘research, I remind you – there is no ‘right-to-life’. There is no right of treatment. How creative can you get? It is not that I think this is proper or defensable behavior on the part of Arizona – I just don’t believe they are liable for this reprehensible behavior.

I guess in Jan Brewer’s eyes, poor people’s lives just aren’t worth as much.

You give her too much credit. To her, the poor are worth-less. They won’t
make campaign donations or contribute to her Political Action Committee;
they won’t vote for her or her ‘friends’, and ‘worst’ of all, will absorb
social services paid by taxes.

Essayons,
.