“In other words, the site is being blocked not out of censorship, but because providing the information that is there is illegal,

Wait aren’t war crimes “illegal”???Doesn’t the library have an obligation to the truth?

You go Julian! The people have your back. You can stay at our place any time

I would be careful about releasing everything. If I were at the receiving end of these leaks, I would want it all done in once – a deluge that the public would not be able to properly digest anyway.

Leaking a few hundred documents every day makes it utterly painful. If I were CIA (or a certain international bank) and I could pull the plug and empty it all at once by killing Assange, I would consider it.

America right or wrong? My ass! I say dump the shit and let it hit the fan and whoever is standing in front of it. The US has been getting away with too much shit for far too long and needs to have its ass kicked by the people in the world it has been fucking over.

You don’t lead by beating the crap out of people. That only creates resentment. I also don’t preach turn the other cheek. You kick ass and take names when needed, but only when needed. The US has been doing just the opposite and getting away with it because no other countries will stand up to it. The time has come world. The time has come!

Of course our govenrment can’t arrange an accident. They’re stuck between the proverbial rock and a hard place. All these politicians calling for his assasination are actually inching over the cliff. Reminds me of that yodeling game on the Price is Right.

A great pity that Chalmers Johnson — UCSD professor and NY Times best-selling author of “Blowback: The Costs and Consequences of American Empire,” “The Sorrows of Empire: Militarism, Secrecy, and the End of the Republic,” and “Nemesis: The Last Days of the American Republic” — couldn’t have lived just a little while longer to see all of this unfold… he’d certainly have been greatly amused.

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So why don’t they block all the news outlets and opinion writers that had helped in the outing of Valerie Plame as well? They helped in the illegal outing of a CIA agent -why would they not now be considered untrustworthy as well? Because Cheney (the State) was their scource?

Why isn’t Wikileaks considered a news outlet like any other -and Assange just one of it’s reporters? Because the State cannot control what he reports? What about freedom of the Press?

More proof Assange is a hero.

but what is bad and what,is good for us, a spoon full of sugar makes the medicine go done , or is the world grown up enough to realize, what you see is not always what you get on TV ! and out definitely not what you pay for ! world over , religion has nothing to do with the current state of the world its all money the sooner people start , learning what their economy means to them , not just whats reported , the sooner , the playing field allows human rights as I see no human rights being , promoted , its always financial goals well wake up world Bullshit rehtoric from politicians just took a back seat to the truth !

Julian Assange is a better American as an Australian than any of the people who are hunting him. The State department is being forced to remove and replace diplomats because their misconduct has been uncovered and their reputations ruined. The Catuolic Church is going through the same thing right now. This will all work out for the best in the long run. It is a shame that like the Church the US government was forced by outside public humiliation to address it’s crimes rather than it’s own virtue.

Rock…..Hard place!!!
Good Luck Julian

If einstein were alive he would call assange genius. any person who can stir up that much trouble for himself by conducting investigative journalism must be doing something right

It is good the secrets of corrupt politicians and world leaders is splashed out into public like dishwater. It’s an education to many people who think the worst thing a political leader can do is to cheat on his wife. These same people who are so naive about official corruption that their reaction to evidence is always to point a finger and accuse the messenger of being a “conspiracy theorist.” Well, here are the cables on the news and I guess the Pollyanna world these people live in is popped forever.

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america

Just because the government can’t arrest Assange it doesn’t mean they can’t go after his supporters and those who downloaded the insurance file.

What makes you think the government has control over any vigilantes who decide to take actions into their own hands? I don’t think the government has control over how Assange is stopped they just can choose to look the other way when people volunteer to stop him,

Since theres enough patriotic Americans willing to break the law to stop Assange, it wont take long for Assange to either be stopped or his support network will be crushed.

You are implying that millions of dumb Americans are capable of being “educated.” While I am all for exposing corruption, I also feel that this information leak could be very dangerous in the hands of the many uninformed, incapable-of-reading-between-the-lines, American idiots.

Let the sun shine.

having a key to release all data has shades of dan brown’s “digital fortress”

Will this end up being used as an argument for more control of information on the internet?

if the information is so revealing why was it spoken in the first place.

I have my copy of insurance.aes256. Do you?
https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5723136/WikiLeaks_insurance

And the program needed to decrypt the file if Wikileaks releases the pass phrase.
http://www.aescrypt.com/

“a public release of classified documents did not mean they had been declassified.”
Remember, you’re a slave if you believe this horse shit.

And now the Swiss have caved in. I hope Julian can find someone with B@lls who will stand up against the bullies who are trying to keep all of us from finding the truths behind the corruption.

Pretty amazing how the whole world is now out to get Assange ever since he revealed that the next target is the banking industry. Imagine that. Gosh, you don’t think the big banks run the world, do you? Never saw that coming… NOT.

Bingo. They shut down news and journalism by buying up the traditional news media outlets, now they’ll look to shut it down in the cyber world as well. The big money doesn’t like its shadows lit up.

Would be nice if that ‘insurance’ file got some revealing info on 9/11.

When your internet gets censored because of this thank Julian Assange for destroying your freedoms.

If the US expects other countries to comply with this INTERPOL notice then they need to be forthright about following ALL other countries INTERPOL notices and warrants.

The USA may be better than all other countries but we MUST continue to live up to our obligations, laws and treaties. Failure to do so reduce our ability to claim greatness!

What makes you think it doesn’t? Why do you think the gov wants him so badly?

Sadly, most people wouldn’t see that coming. Most people don’t realize we’re in the same position the colonials were in, in more ways than 1. Sure, we revolted against England, but who financed England? Oh, the Bank of England.

1776: Freedom
1812: War of 1812

Everything and anything you will ever read on the war of 1812 has been sanitized. For whatever reason you can imagine, it was absolutely not about bankers getting richer. That’s never the case. /sarcasm

I’m taking bets over here, fellers… I’m betting 5 bucks that the “poison pill” has to do with Bank of America. Helicopter Ben is at it again for a reason.

Patriotic Americans willing to break the law. Great point. Reminds me of the Bush years, too bad you are here echoing Fox News talking points instead of talking about how corrupt our government is. Ever heard the word ACCOUNTABILITY? Maybe you should ask your lawyer, because if he says it’s right, it means it’s right.

Let me ask you one question, did the Bush Adminsitration delete those WH emails on purpose? Or was it an accident. Either way, it was a crime to do so, and all you can focus your pathetic patriotic anger on is someone who wants to give the taxpayers CLARITY.

You, like your Patriots, are destined to lose. You can only cheat so much until you are caught.

Is that a threat?

Are you leaving bait all over the place for people to go to so you fuck ‘em?

Not to worry. You are protecting us.

The State Dept. is not trying too hard. They still have Shillary heading it.

Wow! The last time one man created so much controversy, legend has it he was nailed to a cross!

Boy, do you ever listen to yourself? Better yet, do you ever make yourself feel like puking? Cause you do me…

Plus, they would have no leverage. Good point.

What did you all expect to happen? He’s acting like an enemy of America so America is treating him as an enemy.

Did you forget the USA is the world superpower?

it’s not the act of releasing information that causes the clampdown, it’s the over reaction of those in power afraid of losing their power that you’ll have to thank for stripping you of your freedom.

Of course this could all turn out to be another “Pirate Radio” moment in time… the Brits weren’t really successful in shutting down Rock n Roll radio in the 60′s now were they… despite all their best efforts…

I’m not making any threats, I’m making observations. I’m watching how the government is handling this and it looks like they’ve declared war on Assange. When the gloves are off what do you think they’ll do? I’m outlining what I think they’ll do next.

What do you mean by “bait”?

Don’t play coy, you know what I mean.

No I’m not protecting you, but neither is Assange. Nobody is protecting anybody but themselves.

Assange isn’t even in a good position to protect himself so how is he supposed to be protecting anyone else? He’s pissing off the shadow government and now they are hunting him.

Your internet is already censored, and it has nothing to do with Julian Assange or Wikileaks. Nice peasant mentality, though. Is Big Brother going to be irked with you at the next two minute hate?

HEY You have a crystal ball! (Or is it balls?) Shit, I wish I could predict the future like you can. Besides, we haven’t lost any freedoms yet because of OUR DULY ELECTED (?) GOVERNMENT, have we?

HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!

Hopeless….

Well, it’s good to know that you’re neither making threats nor leaving bait around to see who you can catch. Of course, not that the FBI or any of the other shills would do anything like that. They’re too smart and follow the law to a T to entrap anyone like that.

Hollywood had Rona Barrett and Louella Parsons.
Book publishing had Kitty Kelley and Jackie Collins.
Newspapers (back in the day) had William Randolph Hearst and H.L. Mencken.
Newspapers (more recently) had Woodward and Bernstein.
The Internet has Julian Assange.

Only one of the above has been threatened by politicians. Guess which one?

I feel better now.

I’m speaking the truth. The vigilante networks don’t care about laws, they are criminals. They don’t have morals as many of them are sociopaths. The government when they have an enemy will decide to look the other way when that enemy is victimized by sociopath vigilantes.

The vigilantes bullying Assange are not going to be arrested. When you tell a bunch of sociopaths that they can target a person and essentially bully them as much as they want this is like a dream to some of the more sick minded. They get to creatively harm somebody without consequence.

Now if you know this then you’ll understand why I fear the vigilante sociopath types. They scare me because theres millions of them and they can bully people to death and if you are in the USA theres nobody you can go to for help. You can’t call the feds, you can’t call the cops, and how are you supposed to fight back an army of sociopath vigilantes who get supplied information about you from the government?

so why do you want to protect the shadow government? I thought you were all about protecting our freedom…

Lets say for sake of argument that you are correct and these vigilante sociopaths are “evil” and “sick”, it doesn’t change the fact that theres no legal mechanism to stop them. If they target you theres no police you can call, theres no feds who will help you, (in fact the feds will feed them all your secrets to make them more effective), there is nothing you can do. These people can bully you to death and if you flip out and act violent you just go to prison where it’s even easier to bully you to death.

What can be done about it? I present the truth, you have what options if targeted?

so are you now saying that patriotic americans are sociopathic vigilanties???

What do you think?

We’ve been kept in the dark for decades, lied to so that we would go on with our pathetic life. And then we wonder why the Middle East hates us.

hide under your bed and take a change of undies… I think you’ve soiled yours.

I’d like to know why he’s not telling this to us now.

attacked on all fronts the racoon backs into the corner, his eyes narrow har har.

So that’s what it’s all about.

Now what could Bank of America, Wall Street and Gitmo possibly have to do with each other and why would every nation in the world want that kept quiet.

If you know anything about playing chicken with the big monkeys you know this don’t mean shit unless he can back it up. Even if he doesn’t have the goods the goods have to be out there. It only stands to reason.

Is this about protecting National secrets or secret bank accounts.

I would wonder except we put the whistle blowers in jail and Blackrock has more pull than the whitehouse.

Hmmmm, whatever happened to Osama bin Laden? Did Assange replace him? LOL!!

I think he should just dump it regardless! Do or die!!! The world cannot afford this information being lost.

When in doubt, get it out!!

See if you can understand this, just because it is named the Bank of America does not mean it is America. These banks and their CONservative and libertaricon supporters are the enemies of real Americans.

Just like the Nazis did.

Funny we thought those people were brave, but because it’s the USA who never does anything wrong, it’s wrong.

Do you know anything about the bad things we’ve been doing under your nose?

Yeah financial secrets are what is at stake. Now one really cares about some helicopter gunning down a reporter, not when there is gold in them thar hills.

Which network of sociopath vigilantes? the CIA, the FBI, the republicon party, the teabag party, the banksters and stockbrokers? So many to choose from.

Omg the implications in a few thousand years… Could you imagine a bunch of monkeys all worshiping some skinny dude with white hair!

America must have come to a sorry pass when shining a light on our behavior is acting like America’s enemy.

Hopefully it is 9/11 and JFK and the real powers behind the events we are seeing day to day.

Government leaders ahve leverage over the mainstream media, as follows:

1) They can deny access if they get coverage they don’t like.
2) They can deny broadcast licenses to “irresponsible” radio and TV networks.
3) They can control the frequency of press conferences and favor certain journalists.

They have no leverage over Assange. He doesn’t need them for interviews or quotes. He doesn’t need a license to operate. He doesn’t attend press conferences. Assange is beyond Washington’s control, and it scares them to death. His death, not theirs, in all likelihood.

How this will end (my prediction): As forces closed in to arrest, Assange, he commits “suicide” – then an announcement about all sorts of corruption and ties to “terrorist” groups and activities, and a trove of other misinformation and lies that will be broadcast all over the media. The same media that reports very little details about the truth here. Wait for it.

what is this? hope in a cynical, corporate world? who’d a thunk?!

Certainly some of them are.

We all need to spread the information we know ourselves in our local communities and newspapers as well as online. We all need to be the whistleblowers and leakers of information if we are going to turn this around. We all need to be investigative journalists and disseminaters of information.

BWAAA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!! As if Assange has anything to do with destroying our freedoms.
You’re nuts!

I hope they did the same with the bank records as with the diplomatic cables.

If some gang members or mafia gangsters approached you and told you that you’ll stop supporting Assange or else, you are telling me you’d continue to support him?

It should be no surprise that banks like Paypal, Google etc are pulling out but it also should be no surprise that Swiss banks and others are pulling out. What happened when Michael Vick pissed off a bunch of people? What happened to OJ Simpson? What happens in general when a lot of people are pissed off?

When the feds don’t declare you an enemy you still have rights. You can call the cops or the fbi and they’ll protect you from stalkers, sociopaths and gangsters. When you piss off the feds then theres no one you can call. The feds make it known to all the predatory elements of society that you’ve been “green lighted” which means anyone can mess with you and they’ll look the other way.

I’ll drive, you get the wheelchair. If he wants to bring his shotgun, remind him of what happened last time.

Wow, you don’t know much do you? I suggest you start reading better books, like “Confessions of and Economic Hit Man” by John Perkins.

Before you claim he’s lying note that he backs his words up with reliable sources anyone can look up, plus Mr. Perkins was an actual economic hit man who worked by the Chas. T. Main who had an impressive client called The World Bank.

It was painful for our victims.

[...] actual charges have been filed against Assange, who has threatened to release a cache of devastating information if he is harmed. [...]

Excellent post Rush Goofbaugh.

You must be the good twin to the “Big Fat Idiot.”

Did you read any of my posts? This isn’t an FBI operation anymore. The vigilantes have gotten involved and they are far more scary than the FBI. The worst the FBI can do is arrest you, the vigilantes can bully you in any kind of way they can think of including torture you and you have no rights.

Pretty much.

4) They can give away airwave spectrum worth billions of $.

Let’s say for sake of arguement that just one viewer of Fox News really see’s what this government has been doing. Who they really represent. If just that one person has a change of perception, then it’s all been worth it. These wars for profit have to end. PERIOD. 9-11 has to be investigated thouroughly, televised, and those involved in the debauchery held accontable. Wishful thinking, I know, but without wikileaks we would have no ground to stand on.

Vigilantes like these http://www.nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america

Just browse the site and read the totality of my links. You’ll find out which vigilantes. They aren’t CIA, they aren’t FBI, they are thugs. Some of them might be ex-military, some of them are gang members, some mafia gangsters, just every kind of predatory individual of every sort.

The thought has crossed my mind. A few people have been prosecuted for DLing large amounts of movies and commercial music files. I don’t really know if I’d have time to make much use of the insurance file even if I had it unlocked. It’s already extant in tens or hundreds of thousands of HDs around the world, so it’s out of the bottle. My guess is, I’ll get more out of what is sniffed out by people with more time to devote to it than I have.

You’re an enemy of America with your threats of illegal violent retribution for Assange doing nothing the NYT and WashPo haven’t done. The Supreme Court made that clear with the Pentagon Papers.

You can’t by law, use a ‘secret’ classification to hide crimes or because something might be embarrassing.

You are a traitor.

Julian Assange, from what I have researched, started out as a “White Hat” Hacker. The latest actions by him make him “Black Hat”…

He has released SECURITY info on American sites. That’s the bad…

He released secret info on wrongdoing and illegality on behalf of world leaders…That’s the good.

But he has decided to dump EVERYTHING in one lump. Which is 50/50, but still makes him a Black Hat Operator now.

He should have just stuck to releasing the secrets about people instead of places.

This is a bad move by Julian and won’t win Wikipedia points.

He decided to just dump the whole lot on the world. This stuff might cause some wars and assassinations of leaders (if true)

This is going to change the internet and I don’t know if it will be for bad or good.

what are you? are you the guy that’s going to be making lists of names and addresses to turn over to the feds or are you the go between between the feds and the hordes of sociopathic vigilante gang and mafia members so you can be safe? Because it sure sounds like you’re making threats.

Tell that to the Afghans, the Chinese and the Vietnamese.

Bait and Rebate were walking across a bridge . . . .

The USSR was brought down by fax trees, so I hear.

But what you, and others who are critical of my position fail to acknowledge is that there is nobody on earth who can protect these people who downloaded the Insurance file.

If you care about innocent people, or if you just dislike the fact that Assange is using them as a buffer for his project, then you’d understand my position. When/if the vigilantes decide to target the people who have the insurance file the government might decide to look the other way as they are doing with Assange and his support network.

What do you expect the government to do if it’s as ruthless as we think it is?

Three points for that shot!

Sounds like the govt is setting him up. Setting him up to use all of these unfolding events as a pretext against the American People and the world by shutting down Net Neutrality. Of course all for our safety and best interest. Yeah right. The Orwellian Nightmare may be unfolding before our very eyes this generation. Life is becoming stranger than fiction. Is the death of freedom knocking on our doors? It certainly appears so. As I’ve always stated “The absence of freedom is slavery”.

Sounds like the govt is setting him up. Setting him up to use all of these unfolding events as a pretext against the American People and the world by shutting down Net Neutrality. Of course all for our safety and best interest. Yeah right. The Orwellian Nightmare may be unfolding before our very eyes this generation. Life is becoming stranger than fiction. Is the death of freedom knocking on our doors? It certainly appears so. As I’ve always stated “The absence of freedom is slavery”.

I’d love to shake this guys hand! We deserve to know what goes on behind closed doors as it’s us who are their employers, they work for us so we have a right to know what crap they spin! So rock on Assange even if you are working for a government out to cause upset over their dodgy activities. Who cares why I just want transparency, doesnt everyone else?!

I said in a previous post that what is needed is a harder-hitting leak than even the Pentagon Papers.

Basically, unless this insurance file is indisputable evidence of government collusion in 9/11 or the JFK assassination, then it’s worthless and will only give fuel to the 24/7 propaganda damage control. This thing has to be huge.

Like, Bull Shannon huge.

I said in a previous post that what is needed is a harder-hitting leak than even the Pentagon Papers.

Basically, unless this insurance file is indisputable evidence of government collusion in 9/11 or the JFK assassination, then it’s worthless and will only give fuel to the 24/7 propaganda damage control. This thing has to be huge.

Like, Bull Shannon huge.

I think the point these your antagonists want to make and you seem to be missing is that typified by the Church Committee, which succeeded in getting indelible facts on the record showing the utter depravity of the CIA, in such escapades as MKULTRA, routine assassinations, Operation Mockingbird (the subversion of the media, which is of course worse than ever) &c. &c.

They killed the Kennedys and Martin King (and a long list of others) but they can’t kill that indelible record, which makes me think Frank Church (and Pike in the House) did more than they in the long run.

Increasing the percentage of the population that understands the depths of depravity in the Church Committee and other indelible documents seems to me our best shot at getting free (which we are arguably not quite).

I’m not protecting the shadow government. I’m not in the shadow government. I’m saying just watch what happens and if what I’m saying turns out to be right then you can reveal the links I posted and understand what I was warning about.

I’m warning about the ruthless sociopath vigilantes, I’m also warning about Assange who is all too willing t put other people at risk to protect himself. Whether it’s Bradley Manning or the 100,000 people who downloaded the Insurance file, or the names and addresses of the intelligence sources he is threatening to release if the government arrests him.

He is starting to look like a guy who will do anything to save his own ass. I can understand that because that is human nature, but lets not pretend like he is Jesus or a hero. He is trying to save himself at this point by making threats which are completely counter productive to the purpose behind Wikileaks. Also the release of the sensitive sites, how do you justify that behavior? Completely irrational to release that if the goal is to promote liberty.

My thoughts, exactly.
I keep wondering if Assange is for real, or whether he is in service of those who want
to close down the internet under the excuse of national/international security.

Already we have those in Congress ready to “change the laws” (quoting Mitch McConnell)
in order to stop “high tech terrorism.” Expect a very broad brush to be applied when
these new laws come into being that will be able to label any dissent as a “security threat.”

I think you got it wrong my friend. The only people starting wars is the Military Industrial Complex.

“pleased ta meecha”

I’m talking real life not books. Do the research on your own. Analyze events as they happen. Browse the vigilante websites. Read the government documents on how the FBI operates.

Then tell me I don’t know what I’m talking about. I’m not saying anyone else is lying, I’m saying vigilantes are real.

Well done. Long life to you, Mr Assange.

There is no doubt, that if Wikileaks releases the encryption key to the “insurance file”, that “it” will get out.

I consider this comeuppance to the US shadow government, who violates – especially since 9/11 – the Fourth Amendment, who wants the ability to log your phone calls, know your location 24/7, have the ability to read your email, and know what you buy and where you buy it, and don’t forget take your naked photo when you wish to fly.

Americans, and other people of the world need the means of spying on their own elite, who make so much money on human suffering.

Money walks.

The government shills are all psychopaths. No news there.

“The USA may be better than all other countries”

I guess it depends on how you define the word “better”.

Good point re “this will change the Internet.” I.e., Congress, with typical patronizing, false pretenses, may pass a law giving paranoid US gov’t. freaks the ability to censor or control all servers. That’d be the end of free speech via the ‘Net.
Pretty clearly, Wiki out to collect and release info only on global businesses, or anything except gov’ts.
If a huge dump occurs as threatened, Assange will have won the battle and lost the war, i.e., WE will have the same loss.
Many operations can function without one leader, but Assange is ego-bound it appears and will lose it all to protect himself. He will be arrested or killed, his choice.
Too bad, the spirit if Wiki is what the world needs, but he’s messing with fanatical, ultra-secretive big dogs in the US who will achieve what they want.

I’m thinking this whole thing is a false flag op to have an excuse to eliminate free speech. Look at the argument they are using. It’s pure prior restraint which was tried and rebuffed with the pentagon papers. They are trying to do with the internet what they could not do before with the printed press, and a supreme court that believed in and supported the Bill of Rights. Now its the internet and a supreme court that is the enemy of the people and the Bill of Rights.

Actually, you are the enemy of America, according to the democratic principles it was founded on, if you align yourself with the current paradigm shadow government, which stands wholly apart from any Constitutional checks and balances.

The founding fathers would hail Assange.

I try hard not to read your posts.

Even if Assange doesn’t release the key… AES-256 gets easier to crack with every passing day… (processor evolution and distributed processing).

We will know the contents of the insurance file in time.

But if Assange dumps everything now he will be “suicided” within a week (think Dr. David Kelly, DC Madame, etc)… and he knows it.

That video is such pure US-corporate-media-propaganda. Is this RawStory showing that garbage? They show a sound byte of the twisted (and not in a good way) Mitch McConnell saying that if the law doesn’t provide the outcome HE wants, the law should be changed, but no alternate view from any sane person. They show Assange’s lawyer, but only choose the 5 seconds where he compares the potential new release to a nuclear weapon. And who is the unidentified talking head who appears at 1:14? He’s only there to run with the time bomb metaphor. Some blonde British lady appears toward the end to discuss his arrest warrant- nothing identifying who the fuck she is, either. NBC, you employ KO, Maddow and some other truth-tellers, but this report is highly biased nonsense.

yes, it is strange how all of the releases coincide with the status quo screaming and shouting what a terrible threat net neutrality is to our security and how we have to shut it down for our protection. And this also dovetails with what AT&T and the Wall Street Journal have recently stated about how the internet can no longer remain free. They will not be satisfied until they’ve looted every one of us and consolidated all power into their hands and out of ours. No doubt it’s strategically being played out by the government to destroy net neutrality. Just another unlawful assault on our freedoms.

first off, everything in the “sensitive sites” list is public knowledge, and anyone with an ounce of sense and a functioning brain would be able to make their own list from doing a bit of research just by reading the news, if they had a desire to do this or any other government harm.

also, everything you’re hearing about Assange’s actions is being shaped by the very folks who are screaming the most loudly about how much damage he’s doing… ie, the government, state department and most notably our illustrious media talking heads… why is it that the NY Times and other news outlets haven’t been shut down, had their bank accounts shut off, or any of the other crap when they’ve published the VERY SAME DOCUMENTS that Wikileaks has??? There’s a bit of a disconnect going on here, isn’t there?

Blackmailing the blackmailers with their own dirt!!! The politicians are just pissed that he one-upped them! “That´s what WE are supposed to be doing to YOU!” they are undoubtedly thinking.

You are just so off base, it isn’t even funny.

Now I don’t really question your motives, just your capacity for analysis.

Anybody know what kind of KoolAid this dude is drinking?

Stuxnet virus and WikiLeaks: 21st Century electronic information warfare.

The century just started; think about where this stuff is going.

You should consider the post you are replying to as acknowledging just that.

Interesting how NBC and the other MSM always mention the “rape” allegations against Assange without bothering to mention the suspicious circumstances surrounding the allegations, including how both “victims” initially bragged online about having sex with the famous Julian Assange.

It’s as if NBC were part of a corporate/government conspiracy trying to destroy the public face of an organization that threatens to undermine their control of public opinion.

People need to read this:
http://my.firedoglake.com/kirk…/
It shows that at least one of Assange’s Swedish accusers has ties to right-wing Cubans and the CIA. What a surprise.

This event is starting to smell like a neo-con/mossad propaganda operation to provoke the “compromised, blackmailable US Congress” to shut down the internet on grounds that it is a threat to ‘National Security”, when in reality the tenatiousness of the 911 Truth movement has finally exposed the hand of Israel in the demolition of the WTC and the fraud Larry Silverstein perpertrated on the insurance companies. With all the information surfacing that alludes, and maybe even proves, that the government story is a fairytale, Assange still maintains that story as truth, and so far none of his information compromises either Israel or the mossad that he has exposed or even threatens to expose.

You have to wonder if this is not damage control for the group of people who defrauded the US into two wars, gave us the greatest banking scandal of all time, destroyed the manufacturing infrastucture of the US sending many high paying jobs over seas so the banks can steal the properties of families that can’t make the payments, that continually rape and pillage the American taxpayer through the privately owned Federal Reserve and allowed the “wailing wall street crowd’” to turn an investment facility into a gambling house !

“It’s simple stupid!”, stop all the imperialist government nonsense and wikileaks will no longer be a worry, ahhh, but even a US Republican President and former general has warned about the growing military complex empire back in the 50′s, and here we are …….
Viva Wikileaks!!!

I’m so sick of the word “FEAR”. If I have to live my life afraid, then is it really worth it to live? It’s gotta start somewhere pal…..

Yep…it appears not wearing a condom in sweden is now considered rape. Hard to believe.

I want to KNOW what my Government is doing. If shining a light on these communications can cause so much fear and outrage I have to look at the motives of those so angry and afraid.

What’s making me nervous is

1)The fact that travel is being hindered by outrageous TSA and Governmental inspections, virtually closing off travel outside the U.S. and this “info” coincides with sweeping new powers to hold and detain Americans for travel.

2) No Cable I have read so far even mentions ISRAEL in a negative light…not once. So who is the leaker? Someone who wants Israel to fly under the radar? Where is ANYTHING involving wrongdoing of Israel, a major player in world affairs and on of the top ‘sneaky’ Nations we have going. Something stinks.

3) All the discussion about Net Neutrality was right at the APEX just before this Wikileak Data Dump. Two things coincidentally coinciding? Wouldn’t government LOVE a pretext to shut down all “alternative” media?

I can’t make heads or tales of Assange yet, but I know this info is going to stir a lot of shit up and independent journalism along with the internet will never look the same.

1) Mole
2) Hero
3) Egoic Hacker
4) Dupe

What is he?

Whole file can be downloaded? 256 character password to open? Freakin’ sweet.

Time: Man Of The Year? …………….. Man of the Decade.

It’s not really government leaders. It’s those directing government leaders that are on the attack.

You’ll notice how the pressure increased immediately after the threat against BOA was made. This is what happens when a Patriot goes against the Plutocracy. What more do you need to see in order to realize the real war that we are in?

So, this is what it takes to wake up the sheep and motivate the sloth-like American spirit of late. Thank God something seems to have done the trick. Now, if we can just avoid gay marriage, immigration and Al Qaeda for a few…. SQUIRREL!

its calledd freedom of speech and freedom of press…but we no longer have these freedoms we must take them back

What is not clear however in this case is whether one single condom would have been sufficient or if in fact it is a legal requirement to utilise a fresh condom in order to avoid two rape charges or simply one?

“The USA may be better than all other countries”

A well equipped military perhaps, top grade healthcare for those with the money… but what about those other silly little issues, some examples off the top of the my head…

Education, life-expectancy, economic forecast, infrastructure, dealing with corporate corruption, a functional and streamlined political system, pollution, public-spending wastage, freedom of the press, homelessness, food safety, crime prevention, tact & diplomacy, humanitarian issues, nuclear non-proliferation, torture, etc.

Don’t get me wrong, I like America and Americans, I agree America has the most imperialistic power and drive in the world at present, the best equipped military and the best healthcare (if you can afford it)… but beyond that… by other metrics, the USA can rank lower than 20th place (can’t remember if that’s education or life-expectancy but it’s one of those… probably education.).

“Failure to do so reduce our ability to claim greatness!”

A war based on lies, a nation-wide daylight robbery by the investment class, substandard education, unmaintained infrastructure, natural disaster management failures and regular political corruption haven’t stood in the way of that claim so far, so don’t worry too much about that. :)

Technically, the freedoms still exist. Unfortunately, the free press does not.

“The White House told government agencies to take measures to prevent employees without proper authorization from accessing the secret cables”.

This is the kind of change you can believe in?. even Scumbag in Chief George Bush never took such initiative. Obama is an absolute dirt bag, he has no dignity at all,he is betraying every principles he was supposed to represent, What a contemptible quack.

Shining a light into a black hole provides no results, and usually just makes you disappear.

US Supreme Court Justice Felix Frakfurter said it best:

THE REAL RULERS IN WASHINGTON ARE INVISIBLE AND EXERCISE POWER FROM BEHIND THE SCENES.

Bet the government is sorry they created the internet now.

hehe.That’s too good….I can’t even comment on that one. Nicely said.

So according to Bush “they attacked us for our freedoms” ,so now you are safe because you don’t have “freedom” now.

And what if all our progressive wet dreams come true? What then? What if it becomes public knowledge that Cheney outed Plame? that Bush stole the election from Gore and Kerry? that SEC of New York were complacent to what the big firms were doing with mortgages? that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are only to make money for the military industrial complex? that 911 was a false flag operation perpetrated by elements of our own governments? that there are aliens are on the moon? so on and so forth ad nauseum. What would happen? I’m sorry to say but, nothing. Today we know that Roosevelt knew 4 hours before pearl harbor that the attack was coming, was anything done? Today we know that the bay of Tonkin was a lie, was anything done? Today we know that there were no weapons of mass distraction in Iraq, was anything done? Today we know Bush actively pursued the ‘right’ to torture, will anything be done? Today we know that Obama helped to squash the prosecution of Bush for his many crimes, will anything be done? Soon we will find out just how insolvent BofA is, will anything be done? Julians insurance file could give irrefutable proof of the non-existence of god, the where abouts of Jimmy Haffas body, and email address book of our alien overlord and we would still do – absolutely nothing.

Why? because we are fat, dumb, and happy. We have been fat dumb and happy for our entire lives. We are not about to rock the boat now.

But what keeps us so fearful? What has such a unrelenting grip over all of mankind, not just Americans? Money.

If you really want to make a change, you must first stop using the very thing that controls you. You need to make and use your own money.

Isn’t it illegal to openly demand or advocate the death or various harmful actions against a person? These guys sound like trained terrorists, suggesting that they ‘use his children’ to get him. Hey, if they can advocate his execution and assassination, I think I’d like it if a few people started their own DDoS/DoS attacks against those attacking WikiLeaks and Federal websites.

we are living in a police state when a US citizen needs to have their clothes removed electronically in violation of their 4th amendment rights, without so much as any probable cause. This shows us just how afraid the military complex supported by wall street became on 9/11, to having their corrupt world exposed. You see the US government doesn’t want us to know that the CIA installed the current Saudi regime so america could have cheap oil, which lead to Osama’s attack on 9/11. Instead of admitting to their sins, the US government is using a time proven tactic of fear to further their masquerade.

“The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.” -Hermann Goering, Nazi Reichmarshall

Search ” Confessions of a economic hitman “

Anyone have an opinion about this: Could the “poison pill” have something to do with the billion dollars found bricked up in Uday Husein’s dog run?

That story died, as did another story that explained the billion-that Saddam and his family agreed to leave Iraq and go into exile on the eve of the war, on the condition that the US not invade Iraq. The Chimp and Cheney administration apparently refused and decided to Rambo in there without a plan for governing the country.

Damn Al Gore! LOL

So?

Other nations have already offered sanctuary to Assange. Assange was just careless enough to create a bank account in the same place those he opposes do some of their banking.

The uproar about the releases didn’t start until the names of corporations started appearing.

If someone on the inside of what happened that day ever wanted to clear their conscience, Wikileaks would be the safest place to start.

Daily for the past Two years, I’ve been expecting to see that headline.

And you’ll be cheering and clapping, along with the other sycophantic sociopaths.

Let’s be clear: Attitudes like yours are the disease; not letting a little light shine on our duplicitous government.

I think the “Poison Pill”,,has something to do with the movement of Europeans and Americans that are going to remove money or close there bank account on Dec.7th..

I think the “Poison Pill” is a distraction..

An interesting and possible scenario. There’s no doubt in my mind that 9/11 was a military operation engineered and executed by rogue elements of the US military, CIA and/or Mossad. However, maybe the information Assange has and is threatening to release is so damaging that the MSM and even the most ill informed BOZO citizen would be forced to believe the same; A “smoking gun” that proves 9/11 was an inside job. Assange may be publicly backing the 9/11 Commission Report when he knows it’s totally fraudulent because it’s his last and most powerful card to play. Maybe he’s being run and supplied with documents by a faction in the US military and the “Good” CIA that is attempting a counter coup against the 9/11 coup d’etat.

It certainly seems that you would agree that there was a 9/11 military coup d’etat. So, is Assange a protector of the coup or a counter coup agent?

wiki “The Streisand Effect”

He’s acting like the enemy of those who conspire behind closed doors to protect each other from accountability. It’s only the corrupt politicians, banksters, etc. that Assange is truly the enemy of.

All refined and more sophisticated tactics of Nazi Germany now endeared and employed by those that give you the
“land of the free.” What a joke!

I watched a show on PBS when Clinton was president about all that government snooping and I assure you it has been going on for quite some time.

Yeah, i thinks so :(

That is probably true. The Banksters do not want that information out. Especially when the Fed is under so much pressure to show us their books.

“It’s a ticking time bomb with a remote fuse,”

THEN ITS NOT A TIME BOMB IDIOT

They Live

To date Assange has ‘aired the mattress’ and that’s a good thing. But there are things we can know and probably shouldn’t have. IE Roosvelts girl friends…Ikes lady ‘chauffeur’…JFK s movie stars…Lyndon Johnsons ‘little boys’….Nixons malice and hypocracy…Fords’ auto sellout ..Carters’ wife….Regan’s stupid contra deal…Bush 1 stupid son…Clinton’s Monica…Bush 2 proof of stupidity…Obamas’ preacher Wright. Knowing these things are not our business because they do not affect public policy. Assange should stop now before the shame kills him.

The White House told government agencies to take measures to prevent employees without proper authorization from accessing the secret cables.

It reminded them that “each federal employee and contractor is obligated to protect classified information” and said that a public release of classified documents did not mean they had been declassified.

So, soldiers, bureaucrats and contractors cannot read about what the US has been doing all over the world.

But their teenage kids can.

You are not a “patriotic American”;YOU are an ENEMY of this country and its freedoms.
Slam dunk, that.

Admit it.
You love love love big, fascistic, corporatized gov’t like the US has now.

Enemy of freedom.

And you love it too.

Well, if the U.S. has done nothing wrong, they should not be afraid of the documents seeing the light; isn’t that what the FBI et al tells us when they illegally spy on citizens?

Neither. I’m going to make money and live a normal life. Maybe I’ll study the events.

DEATH TO SATAN

“Dr. Alan Sabrosky, former director of studies at the US Army War College says that the military brass now know that Israel and those traitors within our nation committed the 911 attack. ”

The fact that the military was involved with “war games” of the exact nature that would intentionally confuse or co-opt a real event which caused Norad to stand down as opposed to normal procedure to scramble jets, especially a multi plane scenario is difficult to read any other way. With the fact that Cheney was the one in a military bunker while Bush continued to sit in a classroom while the US is supposedly under attack boggles the mind.

I am certainly hopeful Assange is the real deal and only time will tell !

“What makes you think the government has control over any vigilantes who decide to take actions into their own hands?”

…and…

“how are you supposed to fight back an army of sociopath vigilantes who get supplied information about you from the government”

The government provides the information to the vigilantes, yet has no control over the vigilantes.

It’s no surprise that your self-contradiction is fuelled by stories that are only backed up with anecdotal “evidence”.

It is amazing to watch how the corporate media is spinning this story against Assange and Wikileaks. They frequently mention the bogus rape allegations, yet never mention the ham-handed attempt to concoct the charges from nothing. Not a proud time for American journalism.

I haven’t made any threats. Eric Holder and a bunch of politicians did.

BTW stop talking to me like I’m President Obama. If you hate the US Government then tell the US Government.

According to the US government Truth = Terrorism.

Millions of sociopaths in some crazy vigilante network that law enforcement cannot and will not stop…

Oooohhh, scary!!!

Yet the only evidence from what must be tens or hundreds of millions of communications (based on your estimate that there are millions of these vigilantes)… is just a couple of anecdotes… hundreds of millions of articles of evidence and not one is recorded.

Doesn’t that tell you something?

You do realize that your fear-mongering (or naivity if it isn’t intentional) is hillarious to 95% of Raw readers?

Who is Assange going to appeal to? The government?
Yes they are sociopath vigilantes but what can Assange do?

Assange isn’t even an American citizen!

Technically, I guess it’s a Claymore Mine of Information.. Sure wouldn’t want to be standing in front of that.

I get it, you’re going to be a good little capitalist…. stoke the fear with nonsense and become a self-described expert and sell your “security products”… how very smart…. are you sure you won’t end up on one of those lists of Assange defenders that the sociopathic vigilantes are going to take out?

Blah blah blah. Assange and Wikileaks can’t threaten us with a good time. RELEASE THE HOUNDS! Ummm well, the docs anyway. C’mon Julian, put up or shut up.

I wish he would get everything out that he has. I want the major banks taken down so they can be broken up into constituent parts and then America can see something that it hasn’t seen in a long time.

Competition

1.4 gigs? Oh, come on. How much incriminating data can you fit into that?

I bet he’s bluffing.

who trains these monkey-suits to talk like they have a stick up their ass?

It better be some 9/11 documents finally proving the act was an inside job. This would bring the whole house down. Litterally.

9/11 Truth will come out eventually.

love how they got the photo to make him look most strange. Fuck the gov.

What does this have to do with State Dept. cables? Are you suggesting that American diplomats would send cables about LBJ’s pederastic behavior?

Change the law to protect corrupt, criminal prone members of congress and government agencies from scandalous information? Sounds like Senator McConnell is on board with the new world order agenda to abolish what existing recourse ordinary people have to the thieves in power.

It’s not the worst mixed metaphor I’ve ever heard. Give the guy a break.

I am aware of what Dr. Sabrosky has said. It wouldn’t be very surprising. All one need ask about 9/11 is : Cui Bono?

Check out the attempted theft of Nukes from Minot AFB in 2007.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7158

Very good question… I dunno, do they come in a reversible model?

A few days ago, ABC referred to Assange as “the most wanted man in the world” and then went right on to say he was wanted in Sweden for allagations of rape. Amazing! An accused “rapist”, and I use the term very loosly here, is the most wanted man in the world.

Anyone remember when we caught that Osama Bin Ladin guy? I didn’t think so! It sure looks like Assange became much more wanted when he started talking about having information on the banks. States secrets are one thing, exposing the inner workings of the criminal banks is quite another!

Der Fuhrer already claims the right to murder U.S. citizens abroad without a trial. Do you think this trained monkey of a front for the New World Odor gives a shit about Australian citizens? Assange’s only hope is that he has something so debilitating to the Cabal in Washington that they dare not antagonize him.

That almost makes a kind of perverted sense. Scary.

Gore actually never said that. Republican propaganda.

The danger in having an imperial form of government is that at some point you end up with a pathetic little wuss of an emperor who would rather play his violin than put out the fire. It never fails.

You are missing the point. There are no negative cables about Israel because American diplomats know better, even in supposedly secret channels.

By the way, folks, The Atlantic has a good article online defending Wikileaks. The mainstream media isn’t completely monolithic yet. Perhaps we might consider rewarding them by subscribing.

in particular the financial / banking sector.

I believe you may have nailed the true objective of Wikileaks!

A blacked mailed congress, heads of government agencies and banksters are desperate to put the American people into the position of: see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil and limiting the internet to the elitists exclusively.

We will know for sure with more incriminating information coming out, especially on those banksters and the Fed. If the info is damaging then Wikileaks may be for real.

I’m sure that the data he has can bring down the powerful,corrupt banks,businesses and governments,And I have seen the Wikileaks archive on at least 20 torrent sites.I think he will do exactly what he says he’ll do.And God help the Government that does arrest him.They won’t last long.

Would you two get a room? This mutual masturbation is disgusting.

Actually, Eisenhower was a Democrat. He just didn’t want to see them maintain a monopoly on power for eight more years. This is what happens when you try to be equitable.

every minute that passes without bringing these inside jobbers to justice, further endangers our once great country…release the info now…!

Not capitalist, sheep. He’s not got the resources to play with the real ruling elite, so he’ll do his best to get his and tell all future generations to fuck off… not his problem. He’s the kind of sheep the ruling elite LOVE.. he’s a GOOD little mushroom, content to be kept in the dark and fed shit all the time.

All this talk of “good patriots” looking to kill someone for exposing corruption, like a good mob family member willing to kill the bank teller for being to slow to hand over the cash.

I don’t know what’s wrong with TBM, but he’s got some deep rooted issues, clearly.

[...] Assange, said the sex assault investigation into the WikiLeaks founder is based on claims he didn’t use condoms during sex with two Swedish [...]

Sad how some people condone terrorism when they benefit, eh?

Thanks for that. We all suspected as much, but it’s nice to see it in black and white. I’m sure the CIA is grooming their next “lone nut” even as we speak. This is all just another battle in the Yankee and Cowboy War.

“As if…were”? I hardly think the subjunctive is called for here.

LMFAO.. do the research, but don’t use books!!!

I think you should talk to your doctor.. tell him the meds need to be increased because whatever you’re on now isn’t working. .. yes, vigilantes are real.. so what? so are rapists and murders and dying by falling in the tub.. are you terrified of all that, too?

baaaahhhhhhh.. good little sheep, go stand in the herd and munch grass.. the shepherd will care for you (even though you think the shepherd is letting the wolves in at night, with a grin and a hand job).

And that’s the point.. YOU would blame Julian when it is your CORRUPT OVERLORDS that are taking your freedom!

Julian is trying to help you understand that.. but you just might be too far gone to be helped.

I am sure you are pretty well familiar with that activity. Go crawl back under your rock troll.

Does everyone here understand that the “Fed” is a PRIVATE bank?

You know what stops vigilantes? a CROWD with a SPINE. If there are that many and they are causing that much trouble, you can only stop living in fear if you rally a crowd and kill them all. Right?

I can’t get my head around how sad you are. I bet you’d stand and watch someone rape a child because you’d be afraid you might get punched in the nose if you stepped in. You’re the kind of Nazi that ratted out your neighbors who were hiding Jews because you didn’t want the SS knocking on your door. Keep opening your mouth, keep proving my suspicions.

You are talking about the warrant for Cheney, no doubt.

The link at the top of my website still works.

You guys really do love to shoot the messenger. Sign of hereditary stupidity, I suspect.

Tell me, do you take your head out of your ass before you go to bed?

I’ve mentioned this before.. You’re using one form of America, but it really means another. Just like Sarah Palin keeps saying “Real America”.. Know what that’s code for? The place where 98% of the population is fodder and resources for the top 2% to exploit and kill on a whim.

In MY America, the one rooted on the constitution and backed by the Bill of Rights, America has been under attack for decades (if not since inception) by rogue elements of moneyed men wanting to enslave the masses and destroy our ability to have meaningful lives of our own.. Jullian is a defender of my America, the place where all men are created equal and the rule of law matters. He’s REPORTING, under protection of the First Amendment, of the CRIMES and misdemeanors our “leaders” are engaging in.

Julian is only an enemy to tyrants and control freaks looking to enslave you. If you can’t understand that, go put on your brown shirt and jack boots and start ratting on your neighbors. Maybe, just maybe, the billionaire vigilantes won’t laugh at you as the kill you for sport.

I thought we already established you’re with the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs? Still haven’t gotten American syntax down yet, have you?

You may have missed that photo of Clinton the other day…

lol

If it was a commercial product available in the United States, it has a back door for government use. Talk about a mess if someone feels the need to “leak that” if something happens to Julian.

The Organ Grinder

He’s Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs. They have this big program to spread their propaganda through outlets like this. There’s really not much point in talking to him except to point out to others who he is.

Unplug Cheney

http://www.eatshitmoron.com/IMFA

He’s IMFA. Ignore him.

Shouldn’t you be home lighting a candle in the occupied territory or something?

If the internet goes down, burn the country to the ground. It will be the only way to get your freedom back from the tyrants that own the Media. They bought the media to wag the dog, the internet prevents them from doing that. If the come at you with the blinders, are you going to be a good little mule for them?.. or kick them square in the face.. heeehaawwww! This ass ain’t wearing no damn blinders.

I am curious why the President has not spoken on this

Or did I miss that?

“…take actions into their own hands?” Israeli-English syntax. Most likely IMFA. Paid for by the Israeli taxpayer. He’s no more from Boston than Assange is from the moon.

You represent the IMFA, scumbag.

“If the president does it it’s legal.” –Richard Nixon, reauthorized by everyone through the Black Hole himself, with the possible exception of Jimmy Carter.

Not if it contained something so damning they’d have to ask for asylum from the penguins at the South Pole.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/02/germany-us-afghan-funds-wikileaks

The prize article.

Quite amusing watching the mucky-mucks squirm over this. Most of it is just dirty laundry, tales of the dirty tricks they play on each other while doing the people’s business. Serves them right to have it all exposed. The Gravely Serious National Security Apparatus with its pants around its ankles and wearing Hello Kitty underpants…

“Attempted?” Are you sure it was only an attempt, and not successful? There was always the question of “five” versus “six.”

It already did you nut job.

He knows as much as CIA and Mossad has told him!

I love it man, this dude is truly amazing! What a great man. Wish this dude could be President!

http://www.privacy-resources.edu.tc

that’s right wingers, threaten the children.
scumbags.

It will get released. Power hungry elites won’t be able to contain themselves….they think they can sweep this under the rug too. The real question is….when will it be released, because in fact, thousands already have the evidence already on their PCs. They are just waiting for the password. When is the question….WHEN?

8058 characters/page
8 bits per character
8 bits per byte
8058 bytes/page
1 KB = 1024 B
1 MB = 1024 KB = 1048576 B
1 GB = 1024 MB = 1048576 KB = 1073741824 B

Divide 1073741824 by 8058, and you find that one gigabyte can hold a raw
133251 Full Pages, so say 187,000 pages of text.

The Encyclopedia Britannica has about 10,000 pages, so it’s a SHIT load of data.

It’s not a false flag event. This is the real thing. Get on board!

It’s true thePoliticians are trying to use it for their advantage, but Assange and Wikileaks is for real. This is live reality TV…the best kind. Because in this show, the good guys win and the bad guys lose….lose BIG.

Time to change the World!

It’s interesting that while the govt can argue that the documents relative to military activity, national security, etc., have been “classified,” how is it that the bankster/corporate document dump that was supposed to be the next release of info is considered classified information as well? That’s really when leadership in various so-called democratic societies began to take vigorous action to pursue and stop Wikileaks and Assange–for example, Amazon, PayPal, and banking entities, etc., suddenly turned against Wikileaks, along with the various govts.

It seems to suggest that the dealings of big business are now considered “classified” as well. And if so, why, and when did classifying documents pertaining to big business activities become the norm? These are rhetorical questions of course, but I think it’s become quite obvious that what this is really about is keeping concealed the corruption and crimes committed by big business and their corporate puppets within govt. So this is a can of worms that needs to be opened for all to see and then dealt with appropriately. Truth and justice cannot be denied and will ultimately prevail.

WikiLeaks has, at this moment, more mirror sites all over the world than ANY site in history ever had.

There are a lot of people who are *hosting* (not just linking) and frequently updating their copy of the WikiLeaks website.

WikiLeaks is currently mirrored on 507 sites. Thanks to YOU!

http://wikileaks.ch/mirrors.html

Regardless of what any nation, company or organization wants, WikiLeaks isn’t going away.

Sorry the NEW Americans don’t feel the way the OLD Americans do.

We will be at peace and you will not have a job killing anymore, so get ready for McDonalds cause you’ve spent all of our money on fancy weapons, huge enlistment incentives and paying off the Arabs to like you.

Time to punch your ticket home girlfriend and try some of this recession your foolishness has brought to us AMERICAN Traitors.

Yes Syed, we’ll be watching the free internet fold up as a result of Assange. He’s fallen for the false left/right divide and has been duped.

Dunno how the word got out …but it got out….I got it. What do journalists use to accredit their articles?

If WikiLeaks had been around then, Uncle Junior would have had to come clean to the boys that he dug eating pussy!

I often wonder if Obama’s children have been threatened and I don’t mean by random citizens.

So much for Western democracy. We all know their real mission. Sieg Heil!

No, I’m not. As I recall Webster Tarpley has claimed that one of them is still missing.
Check out this lecture by Tarpley “Angel is Next” where he argues that on 9/11 Bush got a message from the actual perpetrators that AF One, code named “Angel” , was the next target, UNLESS he did as instructed….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amzBk38_RWs

Tarpley’s interpretation of Bush’s dumbfounded dip-shit mug at the school was that he didn’t have a clue and was just scared witless (not much movement for Dubya come to think about it). It’s a very intriguing theory anyway….

Assange does not believe 9/11 was a false flag – he’s adamant about that. So don’t look to him – he can’t help you as he himself is a patsy to bring down the internet, shut down free speech, except for corporate political speech.

I would say:

2) Hero

And if YOU actually read or at least search these cables, you will see NUMEROUS embarrassing instances involving Israel.

Corporate business has become classified because Corporate businesses OWN this government elected officials and ?our? country.

The “We” in our democracy has been replaced with “Corporate”.

And to think , there is no NEW continent to find as we did when our forefathers came to America.

could it be the truth about 911? even if its not, the truth about almost anything scares the crap out of the US govt.

[...] actual charges have been filed against Assange, who has threatened to release a cache of devastating information if he is [...]

This is true–at least for the time being. This is what makes the release of the documents relative to the banksters/corporations so vitally important. The panicked reaction alone to Wikileaks since they publicly disclosed what was next in line to be released speaks volumes. So it’s not unreasonable to conclude that the release of these documents will probably reveal that the people have literally had their wealth flat out stolen by powerful banksters/corporations, with govt officials acting as their accomplices. So those banksters/corporations and their accomplices only have “ownership” in the same way a thief has ownership of what he’s stolen–he only “owns” it (in the sense that it’s in his possession) until the rightful owners hunt him down and take back that which rightfully belongs to them. Under normal circumstances, the thief and his accomplices would then be charged, convicted and sentenced to prison for their crimes. Naturally, like all criminals, the perps involved in this massive heist are determined not to let that happen.

FUCKEM” RELEASE THEM ALL,maybe our government employees will start having to do there fucking jobs.

Everybody download the file from Pirate Bay or any other torrent site. Lets all be the archive every step of the way and share the file with the whole world through utorrent or a similar program. Though I don’t think that this is about 9/11 or about the Israeli coup in America…wonder what it could be

I have no idea how Obama is able to watch himself in the mirror, Quelle honte…..

The fact that he is Australian does not diminish my point. I didn’t claim, or insinuate that he was an American.

The founding fathers would hail him of an agent aligned with the Democratic principles enshrined in the First Amendment.

10 years ago I read a book called The Secrets of the Federal Reaserve by Eustace Mullins that told all about the Fed. That would be an affirmative to your question. :>)

Sorry, but I can’t agree with you. Just read of the few Wiki-related articles at The Atlantic and they were disappointing. I don’t know what article you read, but the ones I read did not seem to be defending Wikileaks. On the contrary, they defended the status quo.

It’s a little early for this, but maybe Man of the Century? You’d have to go back quite a bit in history to find an individual willing to stand up to power like Assange is doing. I can’t come up with anyone who compares.

Everything will be known. The Truth cannot be stopped. Of course, many will simply not believe it and of course the government has its lawyers and they are all connected to the judges. One big happy family. Even after so many questions regarding 911 go unanswered many people do not care what happened. Many do but still many do not: It is unbelievable how people do not realize where they can start to “get their country back!” (as we’ve heard from so many teabaggers) is exactly learning the Truth about 911.

Sibel Edmonds was dismissed after she revealed that the government had foreknowledge of plans to attack American cities using planes as bombs as early as April 2001.

During a court case that arose out of her dismissal and the evidence surrounding 9/11, reporters were barred from recording any details of the case, and Edmonds herself was barred from even entering the court room. When Edmonds’ case was dismissed in May 2005, no reason was provided, and no opinion cited.

[www.justacitizen.com]

During an interview on the Mike Malloy Show In July 2009, Edmonds stated, “To say that since the fall of the Soviet Union we ceased all of our intimate relationship with Bin Laden and the Taliban – those things can be proven as lies, very easily, based on the information they classified in my case, because we did carry very intimate relationship with these people, and it involves Central Asia, all the way up to September 11.”

And so can their illegal housekeeper.

Eloquent to say the least. Thank you, yvonneo.

Who exactly would this implicate? Besides the people elected to office it seems plausible that there could be a few SCOTUS judges involved… if that (banksters) is what this next leak was going to be about.

And foster a war against Iran, don’t forget that part

If there was we would need some time to get into the same situation we have now. With crooks in the government and banksters raiding the coffers.

don’t hold your breath

Link please…

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. George Orwell.

All those established truths you mention (minus the aliens/moon issue — no comment there) need to be brought into context on the big screen, ie., the consciousness of everyone any of us comes in contact with. We need to press, press, press, mention, remind, quote, interject out of context in trivial conversations, dare anybody to deny them. Raise the saturation level by 50%-75%.

Every day, every week, every one of us — a full court press. When the day comes that a critical mass of US citizens knows the truth of what you’re saying, as I do, and most of us here (by the way, check out the latest blockbuster at Veterans Today, “ISRAEL WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG — MORE RIGHT THAN EVEN THEY KNEW”) then and only then will reality strike. Then and only then will the tyranny have anything to fear. It will be the moment like when Neo stands up in his pod full of gelatin and pulls the tube from his throat, and looks out at the “fields” of millions upon millions of sleeping, dreaming fools, plugged into the Matrix.

That is the only moment worth hoping for.

If he’s what he seems to be, and not a beautifully staged agent provocateur salting the gold mine of war with Iran.

Here’s some interesting news from Gordon Duff at Veterans Today “ISRAEL WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG — MORE RIGHT THAN EVEN THEY KNEW”. He finds indirect references to Israel in the cables dealing with all of Israel’s supposed enemies and threats. Check this out, the opening 3 paragraphs:

Forever, Israel told us that the Arab nations couldn’t be trusted, that they were ruled by duplicitous back stabbers. Now, Wikileaks has proven that right beyond question. It turns out, the Arab world, all those nations that we thought were preparing to attack Israel, you know, the ones whose tanks were getting ready to close in on Tel Aviv, were actually on Israel’s side. Wikileaks tells us that, since 1979, the countries the US has given Israel more than a hundred billion dollars to protect themselves from where actually working with Israel all along.

Not only that, Israel had been telling us all along that these countries were petty dictatorships, run by liars and fools, petty criminals who would sell their own people down the river for a dollar. Now we find those same criminals and dictators have been working with Israel for over 30 years, information from Wikileaks that has the people of these Middle East dictatorships reeling in shock.

Yeah baby!

Can you imagine? Finally the MSM is speechless and doing all they can to spin this guy into a jail cell or electric chair and they can’t because he has the elite by the balls. HAHAHA!

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We are all slaves to the fed

ruling class.

Yes, I believe you are correct. He must keep the info under wraps like a hostage.

Daily for the past 9 years I’ve been waiting to see that headline.

Yes, you are correct!

So, you trust and believe the government that bailed out the banksters, got us into a war based on lies and etc., etc., etc.?

Bit of a shell game. That’s what I keep thinking. I just contributed a second time to one of the most promising light-shiners, Building What?”, a project of Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, and they are making remarkable breakthroughs with it, leading notably to concessions on FOX of all places, by Geraldo Rivera and Judge Napolitano, both of whom conceded that something was royally fishy with the story as it stands.

Given gains like that, there could well be a sense of panic in Mordor, and a sudden order to distract, mislead, and provoke the needed clampdown.

Let’s let this be an encouragement, and push our sharpened stake ever harder into the Cyclops’ eye.

That would be a reasonable litmus test, admittedly. Let’s hope so. I’m definitely not getting my hopes up — I’m expecting a big “oh, jeez — too bad. Blocked at the last minute. Darn!”

Something about the latest technology of nano-thermite, or nano-anthrax, or both, coming out of Battelle or Dugway or Sandia national labs maybe

Another “self-hating Jew” I suppose.

Tarpley also made a point of Brzezinski’s warning against attacking Iran (I made a placard for the street of it in 07). Now Gordon Duff is pointing out (WHY WIKILEAKS DOESN’T ADD UP that Zbig is again warning us to beware of Wikileaks:

One out of seven news outlets have noticed, thus far, that Wikileaks seems to have a “soft heart” when it comes to Israel and India. Zbigniew Brzezinski caught on, finally, declaring that Wikileaks is an “intelligence operation” using “pointed” information carefully “seeded” into a combination of minor scandals and chickenfeed.

Something about this had a terrible smell. It should have taken weeks to find the Pakistan stuff but the press had it all immediately. Brzezinski is right, Wikileaks is something very wrong packaged to look very innocent. We saw the same thing in the Iraq “dump,” all about imaginary secret agents from Iran.

Oh, I think the potential implications are enormous–all across the board and not exclusive to our nation alone. And I can think of four SCOTUS justices in particular who could potentially be involved (namely, Roberts, Scalia, Alito and Thomas)–and then there’s the US Chamber of Commerce and their clients (both foreign and domestic), and potentially many more as yet unidentified players.

Of course, Assange is now in clear and present danger, so I would think that along with the release of the bankster/corporate documents, or maybe instead of (although I hope not), Wikileaks will be following through on their current threat to release even more damaging information to the public if something bad happens to Assange. IMO, the release of this information has the potential of exposing a global network of criminals in high places (that would make the mafia look like amateurs).

If you haven’t already read the article below, I recommend it. I believe it is this article and the subsequent reporting on it in other media that sent the banksters/corporations and their govt puppets into a panic that has resulted in the current global hysteria to silence Assange and Wikileaks.

http://blogs.forbes.com/andygreenberg/2010/11/29/wikileaks-julian-assange-wants-to-spill-your-corporate-secrets/

In short, I think the release of these documents has the potential of tearing open the belly of the beast.

True — he debated running as a Dem in that election.

Yes — reasonably close to Posada himself.

“initially bragged online” — and then tried unsuccessfully to delete it.

But we must keep our guard up. The CIA may be depraved, but they are not children. They know a few tricks, and this could be one of them.

RE bin Ladin, have you ever seen Adam Curtis’s masterpiece, The Power of Nightmares? Gordon Duff clipped out a chunk for his latest over at VT, which points out that bin Ladin was a CIA construct from start to finish. Curtis shows how the videos of al Qaeda were staged with locals as extras, instructed to bring their own guns for the filming. This was produced in 2004 — an absolute must-see for everyone who wants to understand the last decade.

You are required to cover your whole body with a condom in order to comply with current law.

I’m sorry you went to all that trouble. I was kidding.

I build and fix computers.

We are witnessing the biggest, meanest computer game you could imagine. World of Warcraft for the big boys.

[...] Assange, said the sex assault investigation into the WikiLeaks founder is based on claims he didn't use condoms during sex with two Swedish women. Swedish prosecutors told AOL News last week that Assange was not [...]

No, we’ve established that you’re with NATO.

I wonder where it’ll all end. At the rate the leaks are going, one can only think of the intensity – http://creately.com/blog/diagrams/a-diagramming-take-on-wikileaks/

I have been checking out many of your articles and i must say pretty clever stuff. I will make sure to bookmark your site.

Thats because the people in the government might be afraid of these groups as well. The people who control the money and religious leaders control the vigilantes.

If you feel that way call the White House and tell them that you don’t want Wikileaks stopped.

Comments: 202-456-1111. Switchboard: 202-456-1414

If you feel that way, call the White House and tell them that you don’t want Wikileaks stopped.

Comments: 202-456-1111. Switchboard: 202-456-1414

They might, but Assange supporters are are risk right now while I might not be at risk at all and if it happens it will be far into the future.

Once again Julian Assange does not have anyone to protect you. You are an American? Then you are at the mercy of the vigilante mob just like Assange is and I am.

Julian Assange is Australia’s answer to Patrick Henry. Where is America’s?

Headline this am. Assanges Swedish accuser has CIA links, HW again. Here’s another theory for you. GW and Cheney engineered the 2008 collapse as a poison pill for the next democrat. It was triggered by an unmanagable drain the Federal Reserve. Who had the economic heft and big enough position to pull off such a stunt? HW and Carlyle.

[...] Assange, said the sex assault investigation into the WikiLeaks founder is based on claims he didn’t use condoms during sex with two Swedish [...]

Truth has become a Thermo Nuclear Device. Where is the WMD?

Perhaps Assange, like Daniel Ellsberg is one of the worlds heroes! There is no doubt of his bravery and I think he may well be justified to release much more than he had intended if the US continues to persecute him. Mitch McConnel even wants to pass Ex Post facto laws against him. This brings up the question as to who is the law breaker! Who is the world hero.

[...] Assange, the founder of Wikileaks, has threatened to release a “poison pill” of documents if he is arrested or [...]

He couldn’t be more obvious if he tried.

Yes, that too, and a host of other useful things.

Or putting out a fire…

Google this “assange on 9 11″

Sadly, I’m familiar with the ITP (Israeli Trolling Program) underwritten by the IMP (Israel Ministry of Propaganda). My Amerikan tax dollars are paying for it.

Worse. Israeli Ministry of Propaganda, actually.

Pssst…Don’t look now but he’s an Israeli troll paid with your Amerikan tax dollars by the Israeli Ministry of Propaganda.

Thank you, thank you, thank you. THIS I believe.

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It’s AMAZING how desperately I wanted to believe this Assange was actually a hero. I wanted to believe it so hard that I ignored (to some extent) the suggestions that this was a cyber false flag attack. And how quaint to call it a ticking time bomb (with a remote fuse?) or thermonuclear device (effectively) in the electronic age. This move to the NWO is insidious. Everyone, start figuring out now where you’d like your chip implanted.

You’re welcome – glad to help.

I like Tarpley a lot, but I am not entirely certain he does not twist a fact here and there to conform to his conclusion. But, of course, I am not privy to his sources and his vast knowledge and experience.

Have you heard about Assange’s strange childhood in a quasi religious/psychiatric cult where the children had their hair dyed blonde (Assange’s hair was platinum blonde until quite recently – a fashion choice or ???). Children were given LSD and neuroleptic drugs, were abused in many ways. I’m not convinced Assange experienced all the worst this group offered its children, but he must have been affected and negatively so.

Check out – Anne Hamilton-Byrne and the Santiniketan Park Association. Tarpley says it had MKULTRA connections. Google “Tarpley on Assange”.

“When the day comes that a critical mass of US citizens knows the truth”

Oh PP, I hope they are not all in FEMA camps by then.

I feel fairly sure the warning NOT to look at WikiLeaks is meant to make them look. Reverse psychology, that’s all.

Tarpley says Assange is MKULTRA. In that case, this “Maybe he’s being run and supplied with documents by a faction in the US military and the “Good” CIA that is attempting a counter coup against the 9/11 coup d’etat.” is more unlikely than the sun burning out this noon.

So, er, Truthers… don’t you find it a little odd that we have all these leaks regarding Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Honduras, Nicaragua…and yet no one has used this surefire tool to leak what would be the most insidious “Truth” of them all…the inside job behind the 9-11 attacks. A conspiracy that would have to involve thousands of people in the greatest mass murder on American soil ever…and yet no one with actual evidence had the moral crisis that would have lead them to leak through WIkileaks. Hmmm… two possibilities…there is no hidden truth behind 9-11, or it was Julian Asagne himself who destroyed the Twin Towers with a controlled demolition and then launched a missile into the Pentagon!

[...] a Assange, afirmó que la investigación por delito sexual contra  el fundador WikiLeaks se basa en afirmaciones de que no usó condones durante sus relaciones sexuales con dos mujeres suecas. Una de las acusadoras, Anna Ardin, parece [...]

You dick.

we need a new…err…..REAL investigation

[911summary.com]

The co-chairs of the 9/11 Commission (Thomas Keane and Lee Hamilton) said that the CIA (and likely the White House) “obstructed our investigation”.

The co-chairs of the 9/11 Commission also said that the 9/11 Commissioners knew that military officials misrepresented the facts to the Commission, and the Commission considered recommending criminal charges for such false statements, yet didn’t bother to tell the American people (free subscription required).

Indeed, the co-chairs of the Commission now admit that the Commission largely operated based upon political considerations.

9/11 Commission co-chair Lee Hamilton says “I don’t believe for a minute we got everything right”, that the Commission was set up to fail, that people should keep asking questions about 9/11, that the 9/11 debate should continue, and that the 9/11 Commission report was only “the first draft” of history.

9/11 Commissioner Bob Kerrey said that “There are ample reasons to suspect that there may be some alternative to what we outlined in our version . . . We didn’t have access . . . .”

9/11 Commissioner Timothy Roemer said “We were extremely frustrated with the false statements we were getting”

Former 9/11 Commissioner Max Cleland resigned from the Commission, stating: “It is a national scandal”; “This investigation is now compromised”; and “One of these days we will have to get the full story because the 9-11 issue is so important to America. But this White House wants to cover it up”.

9/11 Commissioner John Lehman said that “We purposely put together a staff that had – in a way – conflicts of interest”.

The Senior Counsel to the 9/11 Commission (John Farmer) who led the 9/11 staff’s inquiry, said “I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described …. The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years…. This is not spin. This is not true.”

Sibel Edmonds was dismissed after she revealed that the government had foreknowledge of plans to attack American cities using planes as bombs as early as April 2001.

During a court case that arose out of her dismissal and the evidence surrounding 9/11, reporters were barred from recording any details of the case, and Edmonds herself was barred from even entering the court room. When Edmonds’ case was dismissed in May 2005, no reason was provided, and no opinion cited.

[www.justacitizen.com]

During an interview on the Mike Malloy Show In July 2009, Edmonds stated, “To say that since the fall of the Soviet Union we ceased all of our intimate relationship with Bin Laden and the Taliban – those things can be proven as lies, very easily, based on the information they classified in my case, because we did carry very intimate relationship with these people, and it involves Central Asia, all the way up to September 11.”

And uh, by the by, don’t forget there were THREE buildings that fell that day. The third steel building fell because of a little fire. Why not do some of your own research and think for your self instead of following the rest of the sheep. All you need do is take that thick stone head of yours and look back through history. There are countless examples of false flag attacks. Anyone with even a modicum of awareness MUST have questions about 911.

Yes Tarpley is very interesting and I agree he twists (somewhat) but admits when he’s wrong, keeps an open mind and for that he gets my attention.

[...] Assange, said the sex assault investigation into the WikiLeaks founder is based on claims he didn't use condoms during sex with two Swedish women. Swedish prosecutors told AOL News last week that Assange was not [...]

Other side of the coin: do you think any American soldiers may have died as a result of his leaking defense secrets?

[...] Assange, said the sex assault investigation into the WikiLeaks founder is based on claims he didn’t use condoms during sex with two Swedish [...]

Sometimes I just think that people write and dont really have much to say. Not so here. You definitely have something to say and you say it with style, my man! You sure do have an interesting way of drawing people in, what with your videos and your words. Youve got quite a one-two punch for a blog!

[...] Assange, said the sex assault investigation into the WikiLeaks founder is based on claims he didn’t use condoms during sex with two Swedish [...]

I doubt it, but I know many innocent people have died in Iraq and Afghanistan, you don´t ” free ” people by bombing their homes or shooting their families.

I’ll be waiting!

PP, look at this lie ZB tell Der Spiegel – “I am very worried that most Americans are close to total ignorance about the world. They are ignorant. That is an unhealthy condition in a country in which *foreign policy has to be endorsed by the people* if it is to be pursued. And it makes it much more difficult for any president to pursue an intelligent policy that does justice to the complexity of the world.”

He places blame on the American people for the rogue gov’t's foreign policy!

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,733079,00.html

[...] Assange, said the sex assault investigation into the WikiLeaks founder is based on claims he didn’t use condoms during sex with two Swedish [...]

[...] Assange, said the sex assault investigation into the WikiLeaks founder is based on claims he didn’t use condoms during sex with two Swedish [...]

[...] Assange, said the sex assault investigation into the WikiLeaks founder is based on claims he didn’t use condoms during sex with two Swedish [...]

This may sound unconsciencable, but do you think these multi-national Corporations * who do not ask “nicely,” but tells Governments what their intentions aka, the overthrough of Iranian “democratic government by WHO? None other than the U..S. Government in1953, on behest of “NO ONE SPILLS BETTER QUALITY OIL IN ANY GULF THAN B.P.(formally known as Brittish Petroleum). These gangsters have used Republican Administrations and now the Democratic Administrations! Our last seemingly honest President Mr. Harry Truman, who when approach by these same gangsters, Harry adamently refused to mess with “any” democratically stable government, along comes a retired General, who the Rethugli-cons drafted for President, to do BPs dirty work, these criminals were used wrere predomantly Nazis (used by theU.S. after WW II) in certain functions,i.e. CIA,) who eventually annointed the Shah as “head” Oligach. Believe it! (or Not), or, just be stupid.
In conclusion, these corporations too “big” to be subject to *anti-trust litigation (which was popular during President Teddy Roosevelt Administration) these cretins DON’T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THE HUMAN FACTOR, DEAD OR ALIVE,Re recent spill in the Gulf of Mexico, circa,2010.

There goes the Truth in “Believe it or Be Stupid”

[...] [...]

It wasn’t hard to find.

Belfast Telegraph, 19 July 2010: Wanted by the CIA: Julian Assange – Wikileaks founder [maybe should be "Working for" instead of "Wanted by" —P.P.]

“His obsession with secrecy, both in others and maintaining his own, lends him the air of a conspiracy theorist. Is he one? “I believe in facts about conspiracies,” he says, choosing his words slowly. “Any time people with power plan in secret, they are conducting a conspiracy. So there are conspiracies everywhere. There are also crazed conspiracy theories. It’s important not to confuse these two. Generally, when there’s enough facts about a conspiracy we simply call this news.” What about 9/11? “I’m constantly annoyed that people are distracted by false conspiracies such as 9/11, when all around we provide evidence of real conspiracies, for war or mass financial fraud.” What about the Bilderberg conference? “That is vaguely conspiratorial, in a networking sense. We have published their meeting notes.”

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Woo-hoo! I had not heard that. Thanks Jaimie. I neglect Tarpley at my peril. Even Kevin Barrett does too, although he did bring him on yesterday to oppose the Pearl Harbor Day position of Admiral Kimmel’s grandson (mp3). Tarply says the Stinnet book is bunk, and issues from Stinnet’s Libertarian, ie., hate FDR, think-tank in San Fran. A two hour program I will have to hear four more times (=6).

Precious little embarrassing about Israel in those Wikileaks. Have you noticed?

Gordon Duff over at Veterans Today has some interesting links that go a long way toward explaining why that is:

GORDON DUFF: BUSTED – WIKILEAKS WORKING FOR ISRAEL

I haven’t checked them all out thoroughly, but there are multiple sources that suggest he was bought off. Several of the German members, which is a major component of the Wikileaks team, have bailed and are writing a book about their displeasure with his monarchical attitude, and his high-handed ways.

I’m going to read this latest post over there on my PDA as I doze off (the former I read at work today: BUSTED!! WIKILEAKS STRUCK A DEAL WITH ISRAEL OVER CABLE LEAKS).

Excellent article and easy to understand explanation. How do I go about getting permission to post part of the article in my upcoming news letter? Giving proper credit to you the author and link to the site would not be a problem.

I’m surprised to hear you say that. Personally, I agree with ZB 100%. The people are dumb as cocker spaniels, and have been for a long, long time. If they knew the operative facts of American History it would be impossible for the Deep State to function contrary to their wishes. Impossible.

For example, how many people recognize the term “Operation Gladio”? How many Americans know that the kidnapping and murder of Italian Prime Minister Aldo Moro was not, contrary to the common wisdom and that foisted upon us by the media, the work of the Brigate Rossi or Red Brigades, the Communist agitators, but in fact was the act of the Propaganda Due or P2 Lodge under the close coordination of the CIA and MI6, as an integral part of the Europe-wide campaign of terror perpetrated under Operation Gladio, as it was known in Italy, including many bombings of banks, train stations, school buses, &c., all successfully blamed on Leftists, under the doctrine of la Strategia della Tensione, to cause the people to run to the State and cling to its skirts for protection?

Virtually no one. In fact, a sizeable fraction of Americans can’t find Italy on a map. For those wishing to know more, watch the video of the second hour of the BBC series (Gladio, Part 2 The Puppeteers). Then, if your interest grows, the other two (Gladio, Part 1: The Ringmasters & Gladio The Foot Soldiers Part 3). Of the text resources, Dr. Ganser’s white paper is the most thoroughly supported with references, The Secret Side of International Relations: An approach to NATO’s stay-behind armies in Western Europe.

As Gordon Duff has rightly said, “Virtually all terrorism is False Flag”, ie., perpetrated by states to turn the sheep against a would-be enemy.

As an interesting side-light, Tarpley and his team were the original investigators of the story, when he was Berlin bureau chief of the Larouche operation, in their book Chi ha ucciso Aldo Moro? (“Who killed Aldo Moro?”), published in 1978, produced at the request of a member of the Italian Parliament. Tarpley took his degree at an Italian university, and is fluent in Italian, French, German, and Russian (at least).

On a further tangent, anyone who wonders how America got so dumbed-down, absolutely essential information is this classic film of the interview by G. Edward Griffin, author of The Creature from Jekyll Island, of Norman Dodd, former Chief of Staff to Congressman Carroll Reese of Tennessee, in the context of Reese’s chairmanship of the Subcommittee on Tax-Exempt Organizations. Mr. Dodd speaks about the evidence that these NGOs conspired to lobotomize the teaching of American History, so that the people would lose hold of their rights and freedoms. The genuineness of his testimony is self-evident and unmistakable from the video itself.

When I was a kid there was a company in Denver that owned competing gas stations, and they actually had a “Gas War”, cutting prices against each other, to drum up business. Apparently it worked to increase sales, and take market share from other companies not involved.

I think that’s what we’re seeing here — CIA/Mossad and Wikileaks pretending to be on opposite sides of a Kabuki dance spectacle. Notice how little embarrassment there is for Israel in these leaks? Nary a peep. Gordon Duff has laid hands on several good links that explain why: ASSANGE ACCUSED: “TOOK MONEY FROM ISRAEL”

Yes, the duopoly we have in our congress is the perfect example.

Well, there are minor differences, some not so minor. For example, Republicans are virtually lock-step in their votes, while Democrats are divided over dozens of issues, to the point of being a helpless bag of rags. But the effect is the same.

And when it comes to discussion of 9/11, or proposing a serious challenge to Israel, none on either side will utter a peep.

I’m beginning to think my position should be stated as follows:
“I support what the Democrats pretend to believe.”

Still, it must be remembered that FDR had a 70% majority in Congress, and they could do anything they wanted. And they did. But even he made it a point to tell A. Phillip Randolph, “Go out and make me do it.” because he needed the people behind him.

Well, there are minor differences, some not so minor. For example, Republicans are virtually lock-step in their votes, while Democrats are divided over dozens of issues, to the point of being a helpless bag of rags. But the effect is the same.

And when it comes to discussion of 9/11, or proposing a serious challenge to Israel, none on either side will utter a peep.

I’m beginning to think my position should be stated as follows:
“I support what the Democrats pretend to believe.”

Still, it must be remembered that FDR had a 70% majority in Congress, and they could do anything they wanted. And they did. But even he made it a point to tell A. Phillip Randolph, “Go out and make me do it.” because he needed the people behind him.

I don’t have time for a full response right now but just to clarify my ZB comment: Yes, the people are ignorant and they have no clue what the rest of the world is about – they believe what the partisan politicians, who don’t work for the people, tell them. The American people, in general, are Zombies. But in truth, they have no say as to policy – legislation gets passed without honest discussion and review, the MSM does not do its job. Legislation is passed without anyone but the oligarch owned authors knowing what is in it, what its implications and real effects will be. Congress does not even read the bills.

If ZB had prefaced his comments with “We have deceived the American people and etc, etc…I’d have no problem. But he is blaming the patient for being ill when the physician can’t effect a cure. And damn it, after all, ZB and his ilk have maneuvered the people into their supine positions. And don’t forget the ruse of the public education system – geared to dumbing down the masses.

It’s not that I’m making excuses for the easily manipulated – I deplore their own complicity in their own ignorance – but that’s just it – they’re ignorant and even with Master’s Degrees are uneducated these days. But for ZB to blame it all on them is duplicitous and jaded.

And I was thinking about this earlier this am – the way it is accepted to call them sheeple is, in my opinion, non-productive and actually destructive. It doesn’t educate them but it *does* trigger their defense mechanisms which blind them further.

I’m glad to see you defend your position, and I realize there is some difference in the vantage points we take. Mine is that IF the people came face to face with the massive bulk of truth that is contrary to the fraud that has been perpetrated upon them, in just such a way as to overcome their obstacles and defenses, bringing them to a stunning life-changing realization, like I had when I heard Stephen Kinzer talk to Terri Gross about his new book All The Shah’s Men, or to put it another way, if a majority of Americans, or even 40%, became fully aware of, say, the top ten State Crimes Against Democracy, and in sum, that the State is a Liar, and categorically deceives the people on a grand scale for generations hand running, the very fact of this knowledge, THE VERY FACT OF THIS KNOWLEDGE would make it impossible for the criminals to continue, by any means short of martial law.

Secondly, I think you should be careful to be sure you have proof that Brzezinski is actually a participant in that deception before you accuse him. Do you have specific examples?

I’m glad to see you defend your position, and I realize there is some difference in the vantage points we take. Mine is that IF the people came face to face with the massive bulk of truth that is contrary to the fraud that has been perpetrated upon them, in just such a way as to overcome their obstacles and defenses, bringing them to a stunning life-changing realization, like I had when I heard Stephen Kinzer talk to Terri Gross about his new book All The Shah’s Men, or to put it another way, if a majority of Americans, or even 40%, became fully aware of, say, the top ten State Crimes Against Democracy, and in sum, that the State is a Liar, and categorically deceives the people on a grand scale for generations hand running, the very fact of this knowledge, THE VERY FACT OF THIS KNOWLEDGE would make it impossible for the criminals to continue, by any means short of martial law.

Secondly, I think you should be careful to be sure you have proof that Brzezinski is actually a participant in that deception before you accuse him. Do you have specific examples?

WOW. I just watched the Tarpley video — I’ve never seen that before. Of course I’m familiar with the “Angel is next” story, which I first heard during Alex Jones’s Los Angeles conference with Jim Fetzer and Stephen Jones. I asked Tarpley about it in person at a Quaker church in Dover NH in January of ’07, saying “I see that there are references to the message to the Secret Service in remarks by Condie, by William Safire, and (I can’t remember now, but somebody on CNN I think), but none of them mention the word “Angel”. Can you enlighten me on the matter?” “You haven’t read my book!” he says. “Yes I have” I said. I had read the free PDF which was the very first edition, so maybe the paper copy had it. I later found out that Bob Woodward had used the phrase.

It would be extremely interesting to learn who it was that initiated the decision to have the Global Guardian exercise. Obviously it was some authority who was entirely read into the depths of the plot.

But it is fascinating to hear the references to Reseau Voltaire, which has always been big in his palette, Thierry Meyssan’s organization, and DEBKA, and NAMAKON. Tarpley of course is fluent in French and Russian, the latter of which leaves me out in the cold. But there’s always Google translator. I want to see what the Voltaire network says about “Angel is next”. Good thing I have tomorrow off.

That would be because of something that happend overseas and an UN-NAMED group had the white house by the balls, and bush looked the other way and knew damn well what was getting ready to occur along with less than 12 others that were aware of something that could cause so much bad pr with the world. the bush playground went along and set up the war games on the exact day of the attack. Wait that will come out too. someone always is watching even in the most secure areas, It’s called keep your enimies close your friends closer.. And yes there were explosives residue that was found and not published once the cleanup was nearing the bottom of the worst F&@K UP in history that will come out and it’s a fact that it will come through a certain website who likes to inform of the governments that I don’t ever remember reading about in high school.. Again even our school books are full of BS and makes me sick to know our own government operates so unknowingly who does what anymore or ever for that matter.. Pucker Up Bush Karma’s a real B

That would be because of something that happend overseas and an UN-NAMED group had the white house by the balls, and bush looked the other way and knew damn well what was getting ready to occur along with less than 12 others that were aware of something that could cause so much bad pr with the world. the bush playground went along and set up the war games on the exact day of the attack. Wait that will come out too. someone always is watching even in the most secure areas, It’s called keep your enimies close your friends closer.. And yes there were explosives residue that was found and not published once the cleanup was nearing the bottom of the worst F&@K UP in history that will come out and it’s a fact that it will come through a certain website who likes to inform of the governments that I don’t ever remember reading about in high school.. Again even our school books are full of BS and makes me sick to know our own government operates so unknowingly who does what anymore or ever for that matter.. Pucker Up Bush Karma’s a real B

It would “appear” that way between the two parties. I am for what both parties pretend to believe. But we don’t have parties. We have characters in a play choreographed by powers behind the scenes.

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