HACKERS OF THE WORLD UNITE!

YEAH! THAT’LL SHOW THAT BANK! WHAT IS THE BANK WITHOUT IT’S WEBSITE?! NOTHING! Oh wait…that’s Assage. A bank is still a bank but an internet troll is just a sad loser that no one will listen to. Congrats though hackers, you succeeded in annoying a major business….a little bit and getting that all the way to the front page of…Rawstory.com. SHOT HEARD ROUND THE…World?

Good! Give ‘em a taste of their own medicine for once.

Not that I’m a fan of banks, but going after the service providers is the wrong target.

Joe Lieberman and other elements of the government are the enemy in this case, not Amazon or PayPal or somebody else.

Bad move IMO.

Also, the so called caped crusaders that took down the big bad bank are just a bunch of assholes from 4chan with nothing better to do. They don’t give a shit about your phony “cause”, they just enjoy being assholes. You’re in the same company of a bunch of people who email dead pictures of car crash victims to their families while their mourning and do prank phone call raids (cause they’re edgy as fuck, that’s why). You’re in good company Wikileaks.

Those who collaborate will be punished as well.

Well done. It is good pay back? But think of other customers too!

Geeks are sexy.

…..WAR….WAR…GUERRA…GUERRA.
HOT Damn….Thanks operation payback about time…FIRE at WILL.

‘Twould be better by far to shut down the Pentagon and all its ancillary machinery.

I almost want to get up and cheer. I mean who’s not rooting for a nice bank asswhooping.

And tagging internet access and the connection to the global consciousness, basic human rights.
I know professional screen writers who can’t pull slick like that out of their massive paychecks.

I mean I almost want to get out from behind my pale gray desk and knock over my gray cup of government issue coffee, knock off these tired corporate shoes and dance my way into a better life. Queue the fricken music and the dancing girls.

Yeah I am going to hold onto that cheer and hope and ignore the fact I have no clue who they are, what they really want or if this is even real. You know real like my third party actually all being republicans anyway.

Geeks are pretty fricken sexy though.

Am I the only guy out here with no clue which bus is going to the Jersey Shore here?

Wrong! The banks and other multinational corporations are running the show. Lieberman and his ilk are puppets – well-paid and aware puppets, but not the ones pulling the strings.

A bank’s website is far more than just its image to the world. It’s tied in to the bank’s inner workings. The fact is that you don’t know what the damage actually is.

You know, everything was fine with wikileaks, all the governments were like, isn’t he cute with his whistle-blower site, he dumped thousands of leaks on Iraq and that was ok, no threat to secuirty, he released thousands of leaks on the state department and that was ok too, no threat to security, but the second he threatens to dump secrets about A BANK, well that man as to be stopped, he’s a terrorist, he’s a threat to our national security?

That’s part of the pressure. The customers NEED to be made to feel the pain too!

To smear and try to close your wallet is nothing new for these scum who think that they can do whatever they want . from starting illegal wars for oil profits to carrying out 9/11 we are dealing with murderers and maniacs,the sickest people on earth who think that with their money and power they can get away with anything.—Their right. except that welkileaks has other plans for these slime.That’s what they are . Wearing suits and ties and underneath they are vile scum. It’s not only limited to the men either.Whore’s that sellout for a buck.I never thought america , the country we love ,has a scum , corrupt government ruling in our name.

There is no reasonable way to target those of which you speak. But banks and PayPal are easy to find and interrupt. These guys have struck a bigger blow for freedom than all the posturing politicians and legal organizations combined. I only wish I had the skills to help them out.

Exactly. It is now for the world to see how a whistle blower turns terrorist. Threaten the banks, and their profits. Then the authorities come after you.

Oh, so you know these people personally? Just because you have an idea as to who or what these people may be outside of this event, doesn’t mean you are right. Somehow I think perhaps you are the asshole.

OMG, I got a belly laugh from this.

Well DONE Operation Payback!!!!

Please, I always knew it. That’s why I left.

So suddenly, the cesspool of the internet just turned on it’s heels and decided to be for some kind of deluded common good? You, good sir, are naive. I 100% guarantee that they give just as much consideration to this as they do everything else. It’s the hot button of the week and they love to press it. If you knew anything about them you wouldn’t even attempt to argue on their behalf.

good for them…

No it’s not, it’s a consumer website. The damage is absolutely nil. I deal with repairing hacked systems all the time. These are low level mosquito hackers that did nothing but overloaded the system with DNS attacks. it’s not their first time, it’s not their last time. They did the same thing to Verizon a while back and nothing was hurt.

nice job.

yeah…sound logic there, Manny.

You guys sound so much like republicans, it’s not even funny anymore.
The same bullshit they were spouting about having the right to information that wasn’t theirs, and this either with us or against us mentality is the same shit just a different color. The saddest part is you guys are too far up on your moral high horses to see that you’re becoming the thing you hate and you’re so far deep in denial about it that you won’t even admit it.

To sum it up. Pot meet Kettle, he lives in Dallas Texas now with Laura.

your comment is short sighted and shows you to have an incredible lack of imagination.

Exactly. This is not an either/or. There’s no reason all actors can’t eventually be brought to heel.

awesome

Here is a poster from Anon for “Operation Avenge Assange”, it has a bit more info.

http://i.imgur.com/sDaxB.png

the internet must remain free

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=146656622049834

Support WikiLeaks day is getting popular. Join it now.

There is a god.

This shows that People working together can achieve anything. If we do nothing about it ,then we deserve it.

Wilileaks needs bitcoin.org.

Hahaha nice! Way to go guys! I hope you close the bank down! They do not deserve to be in business folding to the CIA like that! Can you do the same to Bank of America?

http://www.privacy-resources.edu.tc

Exactly. Tells us all we need to know about where their true priorities and allegiance lies. They can go on about “protecting the homeland” all they want, and play all their games of cops and robbers with full body scanners and armed cops at the trainstation. But that’s all for show — they don’t really give a shit about our safety. They only care about their safety. And the safety of their money and their ability to make more money off the backs of the rest of us.

I hope Assange kicks them in the balls something good, and I hope he lives to appreciate just how grateful we are that he showed the courage to do so.

Nonsense. Commercial players like Amazon, Mastercard and Paypal were so quick to cave when Joe Lieberman and his goons told them to do the government’s bidding. They didn’t hesitate to drop a perfectly legitimate customer just because someone told them to do so. That’s their choice — if they think kind of behavior will get them business, then, sure, they can do it. But they should be made to realize that there’s a price to pay — and if a few days’ down time ends up costing them some customers who prefer to do business with a reliable bank that treats every customer equally, then so be it. All bets are off now — let’s see what price they’re willing to pay for sucking up to Big Brother.

Keep up the pressure. Whack en with masses of DOS. Kill them!

Keep up the pressure. Whack en with masses of DOS. Kill them!

i’m kinda gigglin’ right now …

Actually just three uber smart hackers!

If there is a GOD they will not get caught!

Rob a bank of $10K and get ten years in a federal prison. Rob the tax payers of $10 Billion and get a bailout or better yet another multi-billion dollar contract…. we are soooo fucked!

So countless private citizens could not access their bank because of these vigilante morons? Nice.

The Information Wars have begun!

Private citizens should take their private finances to a more hospitable bank. Ergo better banks for you and me.

I’m glad somoene else noticed this too.

Wish list of websites to be hacked: http://lieberman.senate.gov/, http://www.state.gov/, http://pentagon.afis.osd.mil/, http://www.justice.gov/, http://www.whitehouse.gov/, http://www.supremecourt.gov/

I thought the Swiss were pillars of neutrality. I guess only when it comes to hiding the vast wealth of the Oligarchs. Paypal deserves whatever shit that comes its way.

FDIC Protected
Fascist Dictators Imperialist Corporation.
Fractional Reserve Banking.
Ponzi Scheme on Steroids

F – an – A

“We” should start our own banks. Built around service, and more service, and not for the pleasure of raping people whenever and wherever possible for a big fat bonus.

http://www.RepublicansAreADisease.com

So Josh. How is that sub prime mortgage with the escalating payments working out. The NINJA loan. No income, no job, and no assets? You know, the one the banks sold the “paper” for to some retirement fund that is now underwater….

Maybe anon will hit Pay Pal tomorrow – it’s Pearl Harbor Day – only instead of bombs it will be bytes.

I say go for it.

… some good news for a change

I fully support this. I’m glad somebody finally responded in-kind. Indeed this is starting to look very much like an ‘e-war’ now.

Hair, hair !

The internet as a basic Human right – I like that, I agree with that !

Excellent.

V

Nice av !

Good. No more PayPal for me!

Obama was not lying when he said” Change you can believe in” he was just talking about Juilian Assange . The Truth shall make you free People. Go Juilian!

Countless millionaires couldn’t access their ill-gotten gains because of actions of defenders of an Internet for truth, justice and people’s democracy.

Americans in Middle East are fucked, all their military secrets were revealed.

The imperious Swiss Banks have covered the tracks of …War criminals….Mafia Dons….crooked politicians…..thieving military generals… and Vatican embezzlers…but bless ‘em they have drawn the line at an honest corageous guy who wants the world to know what’s really going on because he cares what’s really going on. He wants you to care too. GO FOR THE BASTARDS!

like what?

…I doubt it…

A fair amount of `gossip’ was revealed, but these were by no means `Top Secret’ docs…

that means ya_right is a vagina…

OH SHIT.
IT’S ON!

Banks never tie their inner workings to the internet period. They use everything on intranet. They know about hackers already dude. Though I don’t agree targeting consumers is the way to go, they still could have accessed their information through phone or in person.

whoa.

There’s always acceptable collateral damage.

Like online banking isn’t linked to the internet?

Bend over here comes some more……

aka “shit just got REAL”

^ ?

<>:’”)))(((

MasterCard censors WikiLeaks but you can’t keep the people down.

Josh, if you are still falling for the republican democrat divide and conquer scam, you are still far lost my friend. If you don’t realize Bush is Obama and Obama is Bush, and mix the Clintons in, and probably most presidents this century besides maybe JFK and Eisenhower, you need to stop drinking the Koolaid. They all work together and are owned by the same puppet masters. My first step in guiding you into awakenedness is telling you to forget about democrat and republican and start thinking us and them.

It’s getting closer for Assange to set off his doomsday leak. I can’t wait. go, Julian, and way to go hackers! Bush and Cheney are starting to sweat, I’ll betcha.

dude.

As an Irish Lass, I am beginning to think that the whole system will break down. Call it the ‘Hebbie gibbies’, but, as I watch the ‘Powers that be’ try to silence Wikileaks, I think I am on the wrong track. We all know that with the passing of the tax cuts for the rich, our future is screwed. All around the world, the citizens (Or rather PEASANTS) are bemoaning American style ‘Capitalism’. And, as you all noticed, MSM never mentions it……

Don’t forget, the Swiss banks took the money of Holocaust victims and then hid it from them and their survivors. They also bankrolled Adolf. It’s all about the greed.

Assange is a hero to the whole world.

credit unions.

The dishonest ways these so-called ‘Banks’ just shut down your so-called electronic ‘account’ is a stern warning to us all.

They will shut down any of us when we expose their criminality, like the Nazi’s did.

BOYCOTT THE BANKS

Save in Cash & USE CASH instead of bank cards & checks

Keep your independence this way.

They support Terrorism on whistle-blower Julian Assange for exposing their rampant criminality against us. Lets join together & Out them all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Uop5R7E314

That’s very true.

looks promising.

The ADL and the Southern Poverty Law Center, are Terrorists misusing the United States military to murder innocents in foreign countries, as shown in Wiki-leaks videos.

Dual Agent, Dual ‘Citizen’ Joe Lieberman works with them to murder and Cover-up.

Thank you Wiki-leaks for exposing the Terrorists!

I really admire young people and their so smart. The Tech Age is hear and the US along with other countries are clueless and have no idea what is going on. Just ask a Law Maker what a mouse is and you’ll hear answers like Mickey Mouse. Nebraska Senator Nelson doesn’t know what an ATM machine is. We know there were many crimes done over the 8 years because the result is this Recession. Knowledge is power and all Wikileak gives is the information for citizens to fully be informed. The Media have cheap reporters who dance for their money. I lost faith in NBC Chuck Todd when he said Sarah Palin was qualified to be President. Andrea Mitchell help Bush by lying about WMD’s and her husband former Fed Chief Alan Greenspan took his illegal money and put it overseas and even changed the currency from US dollars just in time to make a big profit. Ok he did come back and apologize to the American people for not telling them the bubble would bust and our Economy would soon be in a Recession.

yes…may i help you?…

it was just funny.

ok…thanks…he is a vagina….

What a bunch of fascists we are dealing with! I strongly believe that Israel is feeding documents to Assange in both a PR campaign against Iran and a project to subvert the Obama regime. Still, look at the fascist response coming from the U.S.! The U.S. is unequaled in fascism by all but Israel. It’s really hard to find a hero in all this.

[...] WikiLeaks." [snip] By Daniel Tencer Monday, December 6th, 2010 — 8:32 pm The Raw Story http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/hackers-website-bank-froze-wikileaks-funds/ __________________ SatelliteJunkie SATELLITE CALCULATOR DISH POINTING [...]

I wish I had the know how to help out. This is going to get good. Let’s get ready to RUMBLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Theres motherfucking snakes on this motherfucking plane!

I need them to hack a couple banks & distroy some files…..lol. NO MORE BILLS….LOL

I would like to ask for prayers for my Brother-in-law. He is in the military & overseas…..

wikileaks- I’m proud of you! Keep on marching the good march!! you inspire the world with your perseverance for the truth!

Go youth of today!! Fight the good fight! Never give in!! We salute you, we are your parents generation! They sent us in the thousands to Viet Nam and murdered us! It is now your turn to fight them!

Thank the Lord for these ‘hackers’ – true Patriots all! When colonialists decided to be free of England, only some 3% actually took up arms to fight for their Liberty & Freedom. Over 60% of American colonists fought for and supported the British. After Yorktown, most of these Turncoats sailed home with the Redcoats. “A World Turned Upside Down” indeed!

Hack away, my children!

‘They who hacketh away…live to hack another day.’ The big worry is that while Assange may be reporting (theoretically) without malice…his massive Leaks and sources can slip into the really malicious hands…..then it will be ‘hunker-bunkers’ for everybody.

Go Wikileaks Go!!!!

greetings to all member of the raw story . am new to this site and i am looking for a good friend that can teach me more about this site

greetings to all member of the raw story . am new to this site and i am looking for a good friend that can teach me more about this site

Now it’s a cyberwar. Pro wikileaks vigilantes vs Anti wikileaks vigilantes.

EXCELLENT!!!!

[...] is not some Heideggerian Gestell, it is a terrain on which struggle is fought [...]

[...] Noticias sobre el ataque : http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/hackers-website-bank-froze-wikileaks-funds/ [...]

FREE JULIAN NOW … YOU FUCKING NAZI’S !

[...] Who knew that caving to government intimidation and the threat of bad p.r. could actually backfire? A group of anonymous online activists have knocked out the website of Post Finance, the Swiss bank that froze the assets of the Julian Assange Defense Fund. Operation Payback, which also launched an attack on PayPal this morning, pledged to go after any organization that “censors” WikiLeaks. (H/T Raw Story) [...]

i bow before these people in respect. heartfelt support from turkey.

[...] Operation Payback is now threatening to go after PayPal after claiming credit for shutting down the website of the Swiss bank PostFinance, Raw Story claims. [...]

FREE JULIAN ASSANGE!!!!!!!!!!! THE LAW MAKERS ARE THE CRIMINALS NOT HIM!!!

I’ve had sex without a condom. In fact, let me see… I had sex without a condom in Copenhagen [on a stop-over], in Paris [on vacation], in Toulouse [but I did live there, I swear], in Tallinn, Estonia [on another vacation - honest].

Oh my god, I had sex without a condom in London, so I suppose I could — in theory — be arrested, but not under a Swedish arrest warrant since I haven’t had sex without a condom in Sweden. In fact I haven’t had sex in Sweden at all… and that’s something we shoud all challenge the Swedish authorities with. All WikiLeaks supporters should go to Stockholm and have sex without a condom in protest.

I’ll start.

FREE JULIAN ASSANGE!!!!!!!!!!! THE LAW MAKERS ARE THE CRIMINALS NOT HIM!!!

FREE JULIAN ASSANGE!!!!!!!!!!! THE LAW MAKERS ARE THE CRIMINALS NOT HIM!!!

STOP THE WITCH HUNT OF JULIAN ASSANGE !!!!!!

THE FASCIST PULLED THIS SHIT ON SCOTT RITTER and JOE and VALORIE WILSON !

Put the law maker Huckabee on trial for incitement to murder.
The law reads: Innocent until proven guilty. But Huckabee spouts off, “He should be hunted down and executed”.
Huckabee and his dirty leg colleges are the one that need to be arrested!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And Sara Palin, who claims to be a “Momma Grizzly” should know the latter have hair on their ass, Sara Palin doesn’t…Or does she.

You can learn Perl in 21 days…Google it up.
Good luck

mike huckabee and his son david are a real piece of shit … that why he’s on fox “news”

IMO ~ Julian Assange is being railroaded by the cia

DDOS attacks cut both ways huh? This will be fun to watch. A coordinated attack from a wide base might actually be the way to go. There are some pretty ethical script kids out there… I wonder if they will become a force to reckon with as WikiLeaks has become a force to reckon with? It’d be nice to see something like this evolve into a counter-ballance against the forces of evil corporate and government groups. Anonoftheabove, huh? Nice choice of a handle for a group of internet knights…

You watch…it won’t be long before the MSM claims that having sex without a condom is mentally ill.

[...] Hackers take down website of bank that froze WikiLeaks funds | Raw Story [...]

The Governments of the world “Can’t Handle the Truth” Julian you are a very brave man and I support what you are doing. I am sick of a world that spins on an axis of lies and commercial in confidence. I am sick of a world that is run by people who are the problem rather than the solution. I am sick of a world that looks the other way in the face of extreme hunger. I am sick of a world that measures the success of a man or women on who has the most toys, rather than who helps the most people. Basically I am just sick of the BS that we the people are feed. Bring on the truth and lots of it, and maybe the world will be a better place. Here’s hoping – Go Wikileaks!

It would be great if a few British men and Swedish women could get together, have sex in the same circumstances that are alleged in the arrest warrant, then get the women to report this to the authorities. Let us see how many international arrest warrants do the Swedes issue?

How does one join operation payback?

does the US have a system of public interest litigation? perhaps an american lawyer supporter of julian could file a complaint on his behalf, against huckabee… this will show the american justice system in its true light…

Where is the witch hunt for the mass murdering war criminal bush coup / regime ?

Where is the witch hunt for the blood sucking money grubbing wall street banksters ?

Where is the witch hunt for the Osama Bin Laden ?

The FASCIST in White House would rather appease his corporate massa’s !

This could be the first shot across the bow!

I’m with you cliff. The brand of anti-Iran propaganda contained within the leaks undoubtably belongs to Israel. I don’t know what to make of this yet as well, it’s early yet. To what end this game is being played remains a mystery. And as Americans should have learned by now in the last ten years, not everything is as it appears and evil will arive disguised as good.

Tell your brother-in-law to get out now or go rogue.

[...] Operation Payback is now threatening to go after PayPal after claiming credit for shutting down the website of the Swiss bank PostFinance, Raw Story claims. [...]

[...] Operation Payback is now threatening to go after PayPal after claiming credit for shutting down the website of the Swiss bank PostFinance, Raw Story claims. [...]

They unfortunately need a better video and/or public relations firm, except the latter are probably completely owned and operated by the machine.

obama government is becoming hitler government

God bless the hackers. Viva la truth.

You are not criminal but unless you were married to your sex partner you are highly irresponsible and you will certainly get an STD if you are not already clapped out.

fucking idiots. sitting at home in front of your macbooks and preaching against the banks… where the fuck did u get the money to pay for your douchebag macbooks? your salary? where do you work if you work at all? do you even know what banks really do? lending money to small businesses so they can manage a living and paying your fucking salaries…
fucking ignorant idiots who think bank are criminal just because you need some sort of evil in you life you ignorant whores. where do the bank get their money from? you me everybody who wants a safe place to put their hard earned money and maybe even get some more back in the end. so you think breaking banks is a good idea? what happens to our mone then the stupid pricks? all gone. just because some young idiots like you think the real evil is some bank somewhere to actually helps your godamned life. for fucks sake cant you just stop following the antieverything trends and think for yourself you mindfucked monkeys?

LOL you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about do you? On a side note when every other word that you type is fuck nobody is going to take you seriously. In fact you may want to calm down there before you give yourself a stroke. Take a deep breath and count to ten then let us know how you feel (or not, actually yeah don’t let us know how you feel you should probably just go take a nap or something).

Um, Bloodydamn, I think you may be on the wrong thread.
This video is about internet neutrality, and Julian Assange in particular.
They are against paypal because of the Assange thing, not the bailouts.
(Ofcourse, the banks stealing our hard earned cash is another story. You can put your money where you want, I personally only trust mutual funds, and have since the 1980s.)
Also, did your mother never teach you how to speak in polite, civilized company?

Shit for brains ~ banks have NOT been lending money to small bidness for years
come back when ya get some edjamacation !

4chan.org/b

NOT safe for work, or for children, or the weak stomached.

Brilliant!!!

Hell, just send out arrest warrants to every Swedish couple that has a child out of wedlock. That must be about 20% of the population.

VIVA TO THE REVOLUTION AND DEATH THE THE EVIL FASCISTS EVERYWHERE, ESPECIALLY IN THE FASCIST NAZI HOUSE AND SENATE IN THIS FASCIST STATE AND WHITEHOUSE.

Whoa man, chill. Banks don’t “lend money to small businesses”, at least not anymore. That’s part of the problem, or haven’t you watched the news lately? Small banks or credit unions still lend to smaller operators, but the major banks do nothing but so-called “investment” banking nowadays, which is really running a massive casino with your money. So your defense of banks is quite ill advised.

Your language, though, is STELLAR!!!! (I AM being facetious here).

Crawl back into your cave, knuckle-dragger, until you learn how to use the English language.

Oh man, the hyperbole, it hurts… As much as I disagree with the Obama administration on the Wikileaks issue, you’d be hard-pressed to find anything they have done that comes remotely close to fascism, and certainly not Nazism. So please tone down the rhetoric, otherwise you’ll look like a knuckle-dragging idiot.

Too late…

Read it again, Retard; they hacked the website, not the mainframe. You do know the difference, don’t you? I guess not. This only means that there is no online access, or e-commerce; the accounts are untouched.

Got a lot of money in one of those Swiss banks, do you? Who’s the ignorant idiot?
Sounds an awful lot like you…

Wow, you’re angry. I can tell because you’ve used lots of curse words and insults in one long sentence, for example: fucking; idiots; fuck; douchebag; fucking; fucking; ignorant; idiots; ignorant; whores; stupid; pricks; idiots; fucks; mindfucked monkeys (I like this one).

Oh, and absolutely no punctuation, grammar or sentence structure.

What was your point again?

Damm Straight. Euthanize Them All. VIVA TO THE REVOLUTION !!!

The banks just about brought down the whole world’s economic system? No worries, stop moaning, it’s only a few million dead Africans and Asians.

40,000 Americans die every year of treatable illnesses because their government refuses to take money away from the rich to give them healthcare? O come on, stop complaining, it’s only been 360,000 dead Americans since 9/11.

1 out of 7 Americans on food stamps that provide only about half the food that one needs? Who cares, it’ll help them identify with the starving Africans.

The US government is spending 3 trillion on wars that don’t benefit the country and worsens its security? Gosh, no problem, we’ll just step up security measures until we can’t leave our homes out of fear of being attacked.

May I suggest that your incredible anger is misplaced?

The WELFARE given to the banksters out weights the sum total ever given to citizens on relief !

The WELFARE given to the banksters out weights the sum total ever given to citizens on relief !

Hackers take down website of bank that froze WikiLeaks funds | Raw ……

Here at World Spinner we are debating the same thing……

Tell him to get out. Oh, and prayers are just talking to the ceiling.

oh dear, although the places and events I mention are true, I sincerely hope you understand the principle of satire.

Oh and by the way, you don’t have to be married to have safe sex.

maybe its just the american financial institutes, but the rest of the world still works! but it is widely known that most of you americans can’t relate to anything outside of youre fucking borders. and i cuss and swear where i want. it’s something that everybody can do, even the numbed minds of the eternal rebels..

don’t sweat your tommy hilfiger Revolution (pathetic) shirts dudes.

i first wanted to rant against the hackers not take a single moment to think about what they do. media coverage for attention whores isnt worth me having to go to the bank or in this fucking case the swiss PostFinance instead of easy ebanking.

as for why i ranted against the fucking hipsters following every anti-everything trend: viva la revolution? ha! you wouldn’t even know what to do in a revolution. i don’t mean the bloody french revolution like or even the emancipation revolution. i mean revolution of the truth. who the fuck gives a shit what some wanky american diplomat thinks about some overweight english prick?
BUT: open systems are a must. if wikileaks is the way, then thats the way to go.

DON’T STOP THERE. CRIPPLE THEM ALL! IT’S “PAYBACK” TIME 8)

aka jew bankstas

YOU HAVE FUCKIN ISSUES THAT NEED CORRECTING…..SEEK SOME HELP

why?

bloodydamm. You are nothing but bloodySpam. VIVA TO THE REVOLUTION AND DEATH TO THE BLOODY FASCISTS.

How good of you to stand ready to judge the actions of the people who post here. We need more people like you who feel the need to look down on people they don’t even know regarding circumstances they couldn’t possibly have been witness to. Well done…you’re an inflammation…I mean, an inspiration to us all.

Any hope that next time you can stay on topic?

Either you are part of the Banking Cabal, or the CIA mind-fucked you with some good CIA Drug Cabal Dope.

Unless there are Major Fucking Millions of them.

Here’s a news flash for you; if our government continues down the road it’s currently traveling, it absolutely WILL be hunker bunkers for everybody.

Except that Hitler was right

euthanize? hitler used that work.

Ain’t you yet noticed?

They are Cowards

Only Persecute the Weak

yes of course: there is only the evil bankers and the liberating freedomfighters….
what about everyboy else who isn’t part of either? condemn 90% of the people who have to put food on the table and work their ass off..

cia mindfucking drugs my ass. anything you don’t understand is evil, you effing hypocrite.

Wait, you don’t Grauzikaz actually read any of them, do you?
Just for the record, Americans in the mioddle east were fucked the minute they set foot on middle eastern soil…errr, sand…

Heroes, all of them

i’m all in for internet neutrality. support the pirate parties around the world.
BUT: i get angry over idiotic kids spewting worthless slogans the picked up from some geeky plattform, without even thinking about the system or what actually annoys them about it.

Aww. bloodSpam wrote me. “bloodydamn wrote, in response to totolvr:

euthanize? hitler used that work.” Euthanize this bloodySpam. Any further personal Email fron you will be Deleted and not read.

VIVA TO THE REVOLUTION AND DEATH TO THE BLOODYDAMM FASCISTS !!!

All I can tell ya is, this is war, an infowar……. and as your heroes, the fascist regimes of the world, that are funded by the Banksters, and protected by the military industrial banking complex have always espoused that there will be collateral damage.
That Swiss Bank you defend certainly took Julians money in the beginning with no problem, and all of a sudden it closes his account because he is not a Swiss subject.
We all know that’s a crock.
There are many folks that have Swiss accounts that reside in other countries.
Your argument therefore has no logic.

personal email? this is a post on a open thread you moron.

For so many supposed geeks out there posting on this site, it’s appalling how many of them don’t know the diiference between an internet server and a mainframe (yes the term “mainframe” is archaic in regard to technological nomenclature, but is still widely used in the business world as a means of determining between the two). They interrupted account access and e-commerce applications, but left the accounts alone. It takes a lot than THAT to bring down a Swiss bank…

where the fuck did this heroes crap come from? i am argumenting for all the people who are damaged by the acts of a few. i never said it was right what the institute did, i merely said it was crap what the reaction was. BUT: the postfinance isnt a fucking bank and is a division of the swiss postoffice and they have different guidelines.
and this is typical for people like you who don’t have a clue what is going on in the world and just follow the wave.
argumentation is formed on facts. i know the facts because i fucking live here.

De-leted bloodySpam. Zinggggggggggggg.

VIVA TO THE REVOLUTION AND DEATH TO THE BLOODYSPAM FASCISTS.

My condolences. Your country accepted the IMF bailout and already started their “austerity measures” this ALWAYS goes bad for the citizens and hedge funds and banksters all make out. Only a couple of countries have defied the IMF and World Bank, Chile and Argentina, Ecuador and Malaysia, and they were decidedly better off for doing it!

ZZZZZZIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNINGGGGGGGGG. Bloody well done. Lol.

In other news
The National Weather Site has just confirmed that all future Hurricanes will be named Julian Assange.

Bloodydamn is a classic victim of prolonged rape, mental rape, but rape none the less. After a certain period of time they stop being outraged by the rape and instead become thankful if the rape is short lived, or infrequent, or on a regular schedule. That way the rape becomes normalized, and over time it’s even possible for the victim to convince themselves that what is happening is just the way it is and can become defensive of their victim status, standing up for and even defending their rapist.
Sorry you are being mentally raped Bloodydamn. There is help out there if you want it. Stop defending the people who would sell your organs the split second it became legal. They will never love you. They’ll just keep using you.

Information gathered on a commercial website (such as a banks’) is qeued and screened (for things such as input source) before being passed to the mainframe; it is not directly passed to the mainframe, as most people posting here seem to think. The website is not an entrance or a pathway so much as it is a waiting room, where the user waits while the data is processed in the mainframe; when finished, the results are then sent back to the waiting room. Website data input does not directly affect the mainframe files; it is input at the website page, transferred and processed by the local mainframe application, and verified back to the account holder. Hacking the site is NOT the same as hacking account files.

Moron you say? Moron you be then bloodySpam. A big one you’ll be you cheaky bastard. Lol.

the difference is that i don’t need love. apparantly you argument that anybody who dosn’t fight everything is a rape vicitm. you would call a real rape victim a coward?

the problem is: you can condemn people who think differently whilst defending your own fake freedom of thought paroles. you certainly don’t have to feel superior towards anybody who just wants to make a living.

a critical view on life is the only way to live. that is a fact. critical in both fucking ways though. you must view both sides of the system as critical as you see fit. not only the “normal” standard life but also all the anti movements. not everything is legit to a normal life.

Poor wittle baby bloodySpam. ;-0 With you being the Victim of those prolonged mental rapes. ;-( Ouchie………….

I sympathise with you. I really do. I hope that your prolonged mental attrocities which you have been unfortunately exposed to can be helped with intense water therapy.

Lol. ;-) Rageman AKA bloodySpam

It isn’t a Bank………I guess I’m gonna have to sue my educators here in Amerika, because I was taught that BANK spells BANK……..and correct me if I’m wrong, but I saw these letters……..B-A-N-K…….at least 6 times in this article.
As far as my clues about what’s going on in the world, I base my opinions on Facts, not clues. It doesn’t take a Rocket Surgeon or a Brain Scientist to figure out how evil works.
The fact is that Fractional Banking is the greatest ponzi scheme known to mankind.
And because of the BANKS and the Scammers that run them, and the Governments that protect them, the working people of the world own nothing.
And Swiss Banks in Particular are notorious for laundering money and protecting the criminal elites wealth……….and that is a BANKING FACT.

Josh is naive. Maybe he was born yesterday. Check out what is going on in Europe.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/12/6/926181/-Global-banks-beginning-to-fear-unruly-peasants

you recommend waterboarding you idiot? god you really do just repeat your infantile behaviour over and over again. thank you for your pity. it is well deserved if you post one more single idiotic line…

Hey, bloodydamn,
you need to add the following to your password….idiot!!!!!

Actually, WHY they did it is 100% irrelevant; the results are the same. If the Bush administration had been taken down and brought to justice, would you care whether it had been done out of sheer malice or sheer altruism, or anything else? Manny’s right; you let your prejudice against hackers distract and blind you to the much larger, much more imminent problem at hand, and you’ve missed the point entirely. Would it have bothered you if America had won her independence fighting the British simply because the colonists were bored and had nothing better to do? If somebody topples Goldman-Sachs or AIG in such a way, simply because they wanted to try out their new laptop, I’m not going to care in the least, if the ultimate demise of these entities was something that I truly wanted to witness.

Sometimes the greatest changes are made in spite of the motive. Historically, the only one I can call to mind right now is the attack on Fort Sumter, but our history is chock full of bad intentions behind actions that resulted in great and desirable changes.

Learn how NOT to look a gift horse in the mouth. If this anti-human crusade on the behalf of the world corporate community is to be exterminated, it’s more than likely going to happen in a similar way.

being notorious is a stated as being a fact? get it right dude..

you would do well to sue your socalled educators.. but i guess it must be the excellent educational system in america…

anyway, you must be careful what you take as a fact and what not. you say you are critical but take everything that someone wrote in a article for a acurate fact? that is what i am trying to get through to you: be critical on both sides…
the PostFinance is not a bank in the traditional sense. it is part of the swiss post.

you saw you saw the letters.. so if someone posted different letters you would also believe those?

Oopsie. Deleted again. VIVA TO THE REVOLUTION AND DEATH TO THE BLODY FASCISTS !!!

Sounds like the beginning of a full blown cyber war.

you do know the “personal emails” you get are only notifications of posts on this thread and deleting the emails won’t change anything here?

…

Yeah, that’s it. Cyberwar.

Make it happen Number 1. VIVA TO THE REVOLUTION!!!

DEATH TO THE BLOODY FASCISTS!!!

Oopsie. De——Leted again bloodySpam. Oh. well. TOO BAD, SO-OOO SAD.

VIVA TO THE REVOLUTION AND DEATH TO BLOODY FASCISTS.

Excuse me, but do you know of a bank that is willingly loaning to small business right now? The do not loan so I cannot pay your salary, and you have to beg or the republicans to give you a pittance in unemployment. It was bankers who spread unregulated financial instruments throughout the worlds banking system, causing collapse when they did not work out as planned. Banks pushed the mortgage boom, eventually getting their fingers burned when the loans they had put out became unsustainable in a time of falling wages, but you were kind enough to give your money to keep them solvent. They reward you by shortening the turnaround time on credit card payments to set you up for a late fee.
The concept of banks is a sound one, but we are today facing banks that have grown beyond mens ability to manage them, and have bought congress to prevent themselves from being regulated. These are some friends of yours?
The bank in question in the story is most likely doing the bidding of the US government in an act of war against one man who has been convicted of nothing, not even charged.

If you would like a few laughs. Go to ask a republican.
http://www.askarepublican.com/Welcome.html

But Europe is fighting back. They are taking money out of the banks. Take it out and put it in a savings and loan or a local bank.
Check it out.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/12/6/926181/-Global-banks-beginning-to-fear-unruly-peasants

I listen to the radio. Air America and Pacifica. Besides it does not require total attention. I have Pacifica KPFK and it is also available on-line.

[...] Operation Payback is now threatening to go after PayPal after claiming credit for shutting down the website of the Swiss bank PostFinance, Raw Story claims. [...]

at least you have constructive critique.

the entire breakdown and all its consequences had their origin in the US. the rest of the world have to bend their knees. that is the real evil. even if i summarize all the problems and connect the to the missmanagement of on large country, the truth of the fact still remains.

the entire economy is mainly consistent of smaller and middle sized companies who work on credit from the banking institutes. do not generalize the problems of one on every other country.

What do you do with it?

Not quite. People can withdraw their money from the large banks and put it in savings and loans. That is real power.

RELEASE THE HOUNDS

Bye all. Nothing to bloodynose. Lol.

[...] Operation Payback is now threatening to go after PayPal after claiming credit for shutting down the website of the Swiss bank PostFinance, Raw Story claims. [...]

If the revolution does not use economics as primary weapon, it will never otherwise happen. What did you expect? Torches and pitchforks?

I very much disagree with the Obama-Hitler comparison as well, but the Obama administration is very much vested in the interests of large corporations, and has done nothing to impede the corporatist domination of America, and in fact, supports business interests through its foreign and domestic policies.

Corporate domination of government = Fascism = reality in America.

Its called collateral damage. It is the elites who started this war on civil liberties and it is therefore they that are responsible for the collateral damage.
They intend to win at any cost and those under attack have every right to strike back in self-defense.

“maybe its just the american financial institutes, but the rest of the world still works!”

Really? Seems to me that trillions were recently paid out by the fed in secrecy to foreign banks to save them from collapse. Is that how “the rest of the world still works”?

As previously mentioned, large banks are not investing in small businesses, and most loans these days are in the form of credit cards which come from credit companies whose sole interests are to keep Americans in debt. Truly reprehensible.

BTW, money doesn’t come from Banks, it is handled by banks. People earn money by working, without which banks would not exist. If we ‘broke’ banks, our money wouldn’t disappear, it simply wouldn’t be in banks anymore. You have it backwards.

Banks are what got us into this financial mess in the first place. Banks are corporations just like Halliburton, or Monsanto and their sole interests are to make money through manipulation, deceit, and outright criminal behavior, at the expense of the American citizen.

You seem very angry. Why you are on this board defending banks when they have most definitely never done anything for you (unless you work for one, but given your grammatical errors if you are employed by a bank you are probably merely a teller, and you get shit pay) except to take your money and charge you ridiculous fee’s when you overdraft on your checking account (which is technically illegal because Banks have no right to force you to accept credit, unfortunately the Government loves banks and no court will uphold the law in this regard) is simply beyond me.

Excuse me?

“And Sara Palin, who claims to be a “Momma Grizzly” should know the latter have hair on their ass, Sara Palin doesn’t…Or does she.”

You be the judge

http://www.celebrity-gossip.net/images/thumbnails/sarah-palin-12169-5.jpg

Yes, it really is her.

http://www.celebrity-gossip.net/images/thumbnails/sarah-palin-12169-4.jpg

[...] Hackers take down website of bank that froze WikiLeaks funds [...]

It wouldn’t be anything new for the spooks to inject disinformation into the system. It is standard operating procedure for counterintel.
I suspect Assange is neither a dupe or a spook, though. If there were not a lot of accuracy the majority of these cables, Assange wouldn’t have been simultaneously forcefully attacked by CIA and Pentagon hackers, Tableau, PayPal, Post Swiss, Mastercard, the Australians, Amazon, Joe the Lieberman, etc etc.

Approx. 4% of the documents are classified and all released documents were vetted and edited for privacy by Wikileaks and the 5 media partners

I also withdrew from paypal yesterday

No, actually. Just oligarchs.

There aren’t words to describe the awesomeness I feel concerning this. Daddy has a new hero!

I see that interpol and government authorities are quickly moving to extradite the dick to Nigeria for his part in their recently announced $180 million bribe.
snark

LOL – “We are over 9000″

This all makes me very happy.

Also, when he learns to spell.

Yes I would care. Because, I’m not so blinded by hatred of one retarded party or the other that I let it cloud my logic. Try again.

(Quote)but the Obama administration is very much vested in the interests of large corporations(Quote)

Ralph Nader once said of George Bush “He’s a corporation disguised as a human being”

But then again, what administration has not had the corporate interests the only item on it’s list?

(Quote)Let us see how many international arrest warrants do the Swedes issue? (Quote)

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(Quote)The bank said it had frozen the account because, in opening it, Assange had claimed residency in Geneva.(Quote)

Wonder how many others that have Swiss bank accounts don’t reside in Geneva. This is a fucking joke. If this is the case, then freeze each and every offshore account starting with all the top corporate CEOs and bankers.

I am not a pro-hacker by an stretch of the imagination, as I can clearly remember being hit with spyware on more than one occasion. But, in this case, it may seem appropriate, to send a strong message to the powers that be, that we, are not to be trifled with. Our freedoms are at stake, and if wikileaks is the fall guy, while nothing has been said of the Newspapers that are publishing his leaks, then I wonder if there isn’t a double standard being employed here. It seems only a matter of time before the Wikileaks, poison pill may be the only defense against the smell of corruption that is leaking out the domains of the power elite.

The fight is on! Keep a low profile. Find likewise-minded people. The meanies have landed and are coming for you. Remember Martin Niemöller’s “First they came for the communists and I wasn’t a communist, so I didn’t say anything…”

Anyone who supports Julian Assange is a fricking criminal too. The guy has done nothing but hurt the fight against Terrorist. Personally anyone who supports this guy I hope that you or your families are in some way affected by a terrorist act. Then lets here you scream bloody murder and want justice for what a terrorist has done because of the leaked documents. You all are a bunch of hypocrites! And are completely and utterly diluted.

Yes, it does.
Hacking may be the only tool left to fairly quickly arouse the public about the global elites.
Allange’s hackers will be in danger; hacker traitors working off jail time or collaborating with authorities will try to stop them.
While the hack run is on, freeze trading for a few Wall Street banks and block more corporate web sites — then disappear, as do smart guerillas.

10 million people around the world marched in the streets in 2003 to stop Bush’ war in Iraq and he laughed at them. Perhaps 10M will march again to expose the elites.
Time for change to begin.

Mme la Guillotine! First application of assembly line technocracy. Had swivel boards on both sides so that not a drop was waste! Time management so tuned that NIMN became the watchword! Irony: in the line for the 13 steps. Guess who? Dr, Guillotin: Age des Lumieres Adept.

fuck you d

Good work….

it’s time for real payback it’s time we woke up and did something.

me too.

[...] Operation Payback is now threatening to go after PayPal after claiming credit for shutting down the website of the Swiss bank PostFinance, Raw Story claims. [...]

fuck you josh you are part of the problem you fucking fellow traveller your probably a banker too.

nice, classy. No I’m just someone who won’t be dragged to either side of this bullshit make believe battle you think you’re a part of. Because I have actual shit to do with my day.

[...] Operation Payback is now threatening to go after PayPal after claiming credit for shutting down the website of the Swiss bank PostFinance, Raw Story claims. [...]

The hacker who calls himself the Jester, and took caused the DOS and also is doing the same thing to ‘operation payback’…Can be found here…He has a very steady friendship with this site…Find him…https://www.infosecisland.com/

[...] Operation Payback is now threatening to go after PayPal after claiming credit for shutting down the website of the Swiss bank PostFinance, Raw Story claims. [...]

The Foreign Banks were clients of the American Gangsta Banks that sold Fraudulent Instruments wrapped as AAA+.

Those Banks and the Federal reserve bear all responsibility for what is happening within the Financial System today…

Their such liabilities exceed all manner of means to repair the damage.

USA is flat broke, bankrupt and they go on creating more liquidity.

Who would set about curing a Debt crisis by raising more Debt.

Uncle Rabbi Benn Shalom Bernanke needs to be spit roasted along with the rest of them because the net result will be that every US Citizen is to become a zombie Peon to that Debt.

Ladies and Gentlemen… THE INFORMATION REVOLUTION HAS BEGUN!

Fight the fucking power.

Not to mention the Swiss Bank whistleblower who is now in jail.

the rich get their tax cut.
a champion for freedom of speech and the press is held on flimsy charges, with the full weight of the global elite on his neck.

it’s been a great day for the puppetmasters.

I will speak up here for the rights of the many damaged by the few who committed crimes and erthical transgressions under cover of official secrecy, and have now been found out. A great many people have been damaged by the acts wikileaks gave evidence of. Some died. I am the owner of that documentation as an American citizen, and I applaud Assange.

Steve can you recognize humor when you read it or do you need someone to point it out to you?

[...] Operation Payback is now threatening to go after PayPal after claiming credit for shutting down the website of the Swiss bank PostFinance, Raw Story claims. [...]

I hope ya know that you lose all credibility when you whip out the “blame the Jews” arguement.

Only in America.

The nation is so hoodwinked about the jew issues that they fear to speak truth.

Note that I am not on the predicted bandwagon.

I have only stated the facts.

Were the gangsta bankstats the ones responsible for destroying what was left of the US economy notwithsrtanding the outsourcing scandals?

Are the bankstas gangstas not jews?

If you are able to convince me that I have mis stated the causes then I shall happily retract what I have said.

In America I have often been named a a jewhater. Nothing further from the truth.

Note that Bank America not being of that ilk was ostracised from the cabal in NY and also had laid on them blame for the catsastrophe rooted on Wall Street.

Talke Hank Paulson then in the Teasury. A Golman Sachs former CEO, take also Timmy Turbo Tax avoider Geithner too.

Please for once tell me I am not correct in saying that the jew bankstas are the scourge of the Earth and that their intent to peonise humanity in service, as 2000 slaves are delegated to every jew, is a wild wild figment of a perverse imagination.

yeah, and just ignore the problem since you aren’t being affected by it (YET) you tool.

Only in America.

The nation is so hoodwinked about the jew issues that they fear to speak truth. Surely you have heard the whining call the ADL brigade before.

Note that I am not on the predicted bandwagon.

I have only stated the facts.

Were the gangsta bankstats the ones responsible for destroying what was left of the US economy notwithsrtanding the outsourcing scandals?

Are the bankstas gangstas not jews?

If you are able to convince me that I have mis stated the causes then I shall happily retract what I have said.

In America I have often been named a a jewhater. Nothing further from the truth.

Note that Bank America not being of that ilk was ostracised from the cabal in NY and also had laid on them blame for the catsastrophe rooted on Wall Street.

Take Hank Paulson then in the Teasury. A Golman Sachs former CEO, take also Timmy Turbo Tax avoider Geithner too.

Please for once tell me I am not correct in saying that the jew bankstas are the scourge of the Earth and that their intent to peonise humanity in service, as 2000 slaves are delegated to every jew, is a wild wild figment of a perverse imagination.

Perhaps also research the reach of these gangstas. Take the ruthless destruction they wage on competition not of their ilk.
They are a desperate criminal group deserving eradication.

Who gives a shit what you think…?

Exactly! It’s people in the US who care about what is happening in the rest of the world! I’d say 99+% of the people in the US would agree that trillions of $$ spent outside our borders could be infinitely wiser spent on the problems inside. Our country is failing it’s citizens, and many citizens of other countries all around the world. We all feel that we should be divesting our interests in helping or plundering the rest of the world and get back to some good old fashioned isolationism for the time being.

[...] Operation Payback is once in a blue moon threatening to adopt after PayPal after claiming rely on for shutting down the website of the Swiss bank PostFinance, Frigid Story claims. [...]

And your internet trolling on this site is any different, logically, just how again?

Like trolling here all day long?

Actually Psycho Commercial “banks” are NOT the ones that got us into this mess. “Investment” banks, rating agencies and the AIG’s of the world got us into this mess.

Simply put the investment banks conned the rating agencies into slapping AAA ratings on pools of mortgages and other investments that should not have been AAA. Yes the ratings agencies should have done their job but given that their profits came (and still do) directly from the investment banks they had/have little incentive to buck the system.

Those AAA rated pools of mortgages were then sold to investors, pension funds and insurance companies who then turned to AIG and other financial institutions and bought insurance against default with an unproven financial instrument called a Credit Default Swap. Now Robert Rubin and Alan Greenspan convinced Slick Willie in the late 90′s that these “promises” of payment did not have to be regulated therefore you and I could sell CDS’s collect the premium and not have to show or demonstrate in anyway the ability to make good on that promise.

Since most of these SWAPS were sold by somewhat smart people they often bought a swap on their SWAPS just in case anything “bad” happened, therefore you could have 10 maybe 20 swaps covering a single $100 million mortgage pool.

Now what really set the stage for the collapse was the tremendous amount of leverage firms were allowed to have in buying and holding these “insured” and “AAA rated” mortgage pools. Investment Banks & Hedge Funds typically only had to put down 3% equity to buy a $100 million dollar pool and BORROW the rest from commercial banks and hedge funds who then bought more SWAPS to cover their asses.

Fast forward to 2007 when very, very, small portions of pools started to have problems. Not a big impact on the cash flow of the pool but a little appreciated accounting rule called “Mark to Market” rule cut the “stated value” of the pool and the 3% equity vanished overnight. Now what was a $100 million mortgage pool worth if the default rate went from a projected 1/2% to say 1%? Well this is where the auditors had NO F’n clue because, unlike stocks there was no liquid market for $100 million mortgage pools so the accountants erred on the side of ridiculous and market the pool down $10 sometimes $20 Million dollars. No problem thought the holders of these mortgage pools we’ve got the Credit Default Swaps to cash in…..well you can guess what happen next. The original writer of the SWAP never had the $10 million in cash but they had a SWAP so they turned to the writer of their SWAP who turned to the writer of their SWAP and on down the line until it got to the end and oh shit NOBDY had the money to pay the holder of the mortgage pool.

Since the investor didn’t, couldn’t or wouldn’t add equity to meet the loan terms, the commercial banks were forced to call the loan and generally took a big ass loss. So ya see Bloodydamn is RIGHT the commercial banks didn’t cause the collapse they only lent money to investment firms with THREE FUCKING % down which enabled the Ponzi scheme to grow to gargantuan proportions.

[...] Operation Payback is now threatening to go after PayPal after claiming credit for shutting down the website of the Swiss bank PostFinance, Raw Story claims. [...]

The Net will be the only People’s battleground. Physical unrest is easily being quelled with “crowd control” but the net is still a place where equalization of power can be echieved by the People. Paralyze corporates and they cannot function. This has just been demonstrated.

Didn’t say that the evidence was not on your side just that the “label” impares peoples ability to evaluate the facts.

IMO it is not the religion/race that is the guilty party, it is more of a CLASS thing of which many happen to be of “the faith”….IMO

taking away our freedoms 1 by 1

The hackers should be hailed as heroes defending freedom of speech. All of this brouhaha because a few old white men are being embarrassed by their own actions! If they were all on the up and up and above board they should have nothing to worry about. Isn’t wikileaks doing what the press is suppose to do? Isn’t this what the press in the U.S. use to do? All this crap coming from the republican party calling for Assange’s arrest and death is just the republicans trying to make this a political football in hopes of damaging Obama! Gates said at the most the leaks have been embarrassing and awkward. Get over it!

I understand what you are saying.

I only have found this phenomenon in USA. The brainwashing is so complete. And Americans fall for that crap.

What I say always and always stand up to is what I believe to be the truth.

I don’t even see it as a religious thing, nor a racial thing but what is so stark staring obvious to me is that throughout recent history and from USA those jew bankstas have always been the root cause of the problems.

Note how they are so adept at setting one against another whilst stepping back to await picking up the spoils.

That dumbass Prime Minister of Israel for instance.

Imprisons Gazans citing terrorism acts whilst his government is disregarding International Law on Palestinian Land Rights.

As if that is no enough the place takes fire and they are unable to extinguish it and then he calls for neighborly assistance.

It’s like a Rabbi in London I once knew.

He was begging to win the lottery, until someone informed him that there was no bar on that but first he must buy a ticket.

That apart have no doubt that the enemy of everyone is the jew bankstas

Exactly how am I trolling? Because my opinion is different from yours?

[...] RawStory Announcing its successful hack on a Twitter account, the group declared, “We will fire at [...]

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[...] Operation Payback is now threatening to go after PayPal after claiming credit for shutting down the website of the Swiss bank PostFinance, Raw Story claims. [...]

During my time in Europe it was quite clear that to most Europeans ‘Swiss’ and ‘Hyprocrite’ meant exactly the same thing.
Italians used to call them ‘occiali’…(eyeglasses).

I say, Boycott Ebay! the owners of Paypal.

Nice to see so many people thinking it’s just about money. Never mind that people have died from their names and locations being revealed by WikiLeaks, or that WikiLeaks is commiting treason by posting much of its material online.

Scorched earth? I’m in.

[...] through its service). Later in the day they launched a successful attack on PostFinance, the bank that froze the assets of the Julian Assange Defense Fund. As of last night, the PostFinance site was still [...]

Stand up to corruption by the Powerful and the Corps. Great video.

Congratulation for your work which I fully support.
I suggest that we collect petition here from people around the world that Julian Assange will be nominated for Nobel Prize for democracy, piece, freedom of speech, truth. Those reveals are light for all of us (slaves) which are blind by false ideologie – promises and lays.

You don’t know that. If outing a CIA agent isn’t against the law why should embarrassing old white men be? Since Mr. Assange isn’t a U.S. citizen it would be difficult to charge him with treason. Since Secretary Gates has said the leaks may be embarrassing and awkward they haven’t been a threat to our Country. I guess he might know a little more about it than you, especially given you are not stating fact, but fiction.

People die, idiot, because the people are deceived into supporting insane, corrupt, and needless wars, hundreds of thousands of them by last count. Money was the motivating factor.

This is looking more and more like a declaration of war by the elite against the middle class.

There are more of us than there are of them, and their only weapon is blunt oppression.

Starting with the despotic tyrants who use the Swiss banks to shelter their plundered assets.

The govt has just brought a knife to a gun fight.

The only tangible asset the US still has is its middle class, their accumulated savings, equity and buying power. This asset is being leveraged by the government to sell treasuries to foreign governments and by the banks to sell mortgages and debt instruments to other financial institutions. The people are unwitting accomplices in this huge Ponzi scheme. The only ones that are not profiting from this scheme is the American worker.

Assange is an anarchist. It’s easy to throw bombs when you don’t have to clear up the corpses.

Treason against WHAT, or WHOM? If you’re thinking it’s treason against the USA, you’re dead wrong. Assange is not a US citizen. He’s Australian.

I am in UK.

Thanks

Now RAW STORY is cut off here.

thanks

The corpses? Like all the dead of the Iraq war?

Your a real tool ain’t you?

Jemmima Khan, the socialite and charity worker, offered to provide a £20,000 surety to prevent the 39-year-old Australian from being remanded in custody in Britain over the claims.

Swedish officials want him extradited to answer questions over the alleged rape of one woman and molestation of another while he was in Stockholm this summer.

Mr Assange, who was also supported in court by film director Ken Loach and four others, has repeatedly denied the claims.
Do not under estimate the People Power.

That’s like saying that Tiger Woods sex partners are anarchists for telling on him. hahahaha… And your analogy goes better with the military, not Assange. However, Assange is just telling us who threw the bombs.

lmao… and the revolution continues! AWESOME! The problem is really the banksters, NOT the press. Our 1st amendment rights are taken, and the TSA are professional pedophiles, and child molesters. Just great.

If you dont support this man and his information, then Idk how you say you support freedom of any kind.

He has to kill people going to a wedding with a drone attack on his 2nd day of his Presidency to get the NObel Peace prize. ;)

Valerie Plame, anyone?

[...] Who knew that caving to government intimidation and the threat of bad p.r. could actually backfire? A group of anonymous online activists have knocked out the website of Post Finance, the Swiss bank that froze the assets of the Julian Assange Defense Fund. Operation Payback, which also launched an attack on PayPal this morning, pledged to go after any organization that “censors” WikiLeaks. (H/T Raw Story) [...]

Who ???

NOTE: The government knew before hand the information would be released. Wouldn’t have been prudent for them to provide security for those who may be in danger.

Hopefully they will take down Amazon and Pay Pal next.

the Fema camps are built to hold millions. what’s 9,000? Hitler did away with millions and he didn’t even have computers back then to track and build extensive dossiers on everyone. Hitler would have loved the internet. It would have made his work a lot easier.
this whole thing looks staged so the first amendment can be done away with. all this hysteria for a bunch of notes that say a whole lot of nothing.

They’ve now been down for 48 hours. Bet they’re regretting messing with WikiLeaks, LOL.

“Oops! Google Chrome could not connect to http://www.postfinance.ch”
Operation Payback, you rock. Now get back to work.

You don’t need any skills. You just need to be able to run aand download a simple program known as the low orbit ion cannon. It’s what they use to harness the bandwidth of thousands of volunteer’s computers to execute a DDOS.

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The Swiss didn’t have much choice but to collaborate with the Nazis. A combination of economic measures in Germany’s favor and the threat of millions of Swiss sharpshooters is what kept them from invading.

Oh please, 99% of Americans couldn’t give a shit about what’s happening outside America. Theyr’e the most self-centered people on the planet.

You should try living outside America and see the way Americans behave when they leave the country – it’s embarrassing to be American. Clueless about basic international issues, think the world owes them because they’re ‘American’ and have the rudest behavior of just about any nationality out there (except the Israelis, who must come out of the womb aggressive and rude),

Americans are one of the world’s most hated nationalities, and there’s good reason for it.

God-dess Bless Julian Assange, Pfc. Manning, everyone at WikiLeaks and Operation Payback:

“You can’t win, Darth. If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.”
Obi-Wan Kenobi

(cough) Pentagon….

I’ve been reading a few posts and really and enjoy your writing. I’m just setting up my own blog and only hope that I can write as well and give the reader so significantly insight.

The US government are the anarchists. I’d list all their crimes but I’d die of old age before I was done.
BTW, unlike the US gummint, Assanges actions have generated NO corpses or even injuries and he doesn’t throw bombs.

You are pretty ill-informed, arncha?
1. Wikileaks is not committing treason. Wikileaks is not American, numb-nuts.
2. No one has died. The government has stated clearly that no one has died.
3. The files are vetted by the 5 media partners and published, now listen carefully, BEFORE WL posts the cables.

Now run along and watch Glenn Beck and learn some more disinformation,

Plame. An *actual crime* perpetrated by the actual leakers and not publishers.

Nuke their website too.

“Hitler would have loved the internet.”
Hitler would have been destroyed by the internet if his infrastructure were as dependent as the USA. It works both ways, as you can see by this action. Economic attacks are the key to a successful revolution because the enemy is the banksters. Rolling strikes around the world would be crippling as well, like the one in Spain that cost the industry an estimated 300 million Euros over the course of a weekend.

Sure, and its all over the news,too.

Assange is a HERO!

“Hackers”!!! Hackers!!!! Hackers!!!!!
Hackers’ service? I feel so unproud with their name.
So, their action is to bring on a better world? I see.

Yeah, why aren’t the “neutral’ Swiss freezing the Swiss bank accounts of all the Nazi war criminals whose blood money from the stolen loot of genocide victims, most of which has never been returned?

[...] Operation Payback is now threatening to go after PayPal after claiming credit for shutting down the website of the Swiss bank PostFinance, Raw Story claims. [...]

It is the accounts of the super rich that are housed in offshore banks that should be hacked, and ALL the money dispersed to ALL the poor and working class people of the entire world. All of it.

For those interested in astro-analysis, this article shows how much Julian Assange values the truth…a man of Destiny for our perilous times.

http://planetwaves.net/astrologynews/306095406.html

You don’t speak for me or America’s POOR who have been relegated to a permanent underclass over these last 30 years, nor the rest of the world’s POOR and suffering. We are the ones who have been “damaged” and we were not damaged by WikiLeaks or Assange — we were damaged by the world’s bourgeoisie, the global capitalist class who are the very people, viz a viz their brutal enforcement arm, the national security state, that Assange and WikiLeaks targeted for exposure.

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Who died and made you Sigmund Freud?

If you haven’t already done so, to vote Assange as man of the year go to
http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/completelist/0,29569,2028734,00.html

When the truth is revealed, there’s a release of energy — and the effect is unpredictable. But when we wonder just how it is that one would begin to dismantle the out-of-control military and espionage machine referred to in cables as USG, it could easily begin with an event like this, that pierces the deception that it is 100% necessary to maintain a condition of nonstop war.

Definitely Man of the YEAR…YES, plus the Daniel Ellsberg Award and the Nobel Peace Prize.
As master astrologer, Eric Francis said re Julian Assange: This is personal for him; it’s a matter of heart and soul, and he is aware the influence that he can have by using technology to reveal the truth…as an interventionist in a society that is committing suicide.

Hackers for truth can cause US regime change…with clear evidence piling up of our totally corrupt, criminal banks, corporations, media, US Depts. of Justice, Treasury, State, Defense, Congress and White House…to name a few…w/ retroactive indictments to Bush admin.

anarchists are opposed to government. get it straight. assange may be one, it is not yet clear as his views on capitalism are unclear. and he could be a tool. the point of all this is, is to pay attention to the details. the government does not serve you, they serve themselves and capitalists. you wanna be free, all these mass-oriented institutions must go. starting with the invisible is a good place, but is insufficient.

Right on.

Ignorant fool.

Are you being paid or do you post specious drivel like this for nothing?

Eagle Eye, V for Vendetta and nutty AJ Info War news. nice.

Do not confuse hackers with thieves that use computers just because some of the tools are the same. Ideological hackers fight an unjust and exploitative system that seeks to suck the lifeblood from the entire world – they don’t put malicious spyware on the computers of home users.

You understand nothing. Nothing. Unclench, and try to educate yourself a bit.

Fool. You’re a pawn in the hands of the wealthy. You understand absolutely nothing.

Point taken. However, the meaning you refer to is no more than a contemporary street colloquialism.
Anarchy is historically a form of governance with no central government and a community wide social contract.

***
“The key feature of anarchism is individual sovereignty, with governance by individual consent. Geo-archism is based on this principle, since an individual voluntarily joins a contractual community which then chooses to associate with other communities for mutual benefits, and may withdraw when those benefits are no longer obtained. An individual has the option of remaining outside any community, contracting for services as an individual.

In practice, most people would remain in some type of contractual community because historically human beings have wanted to live in communities and economically it is efficient for one geographic agency to provide for a mix of local related territorial services and to associate with others for services provided efficiently to larger areas. With most people in a confederation that spans a continent or even the entire earth, society would obtain the key benefit of minarchism or limited government: a uniform rule of law.” (Hospers, 1976).

they are attacking the swedish prosecuter too

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jHGck-t5iBweXSlryHvEs6Enc3RA?docId=CNG.a35172d22b0338261a9ae31edf8cfa03.d01

hackers pwning them

My dream is that you’ve got it.
All those SOBs have to go!

Julian Assange, Hero of the Year! I encourage everyone to protest and boycott all of the companies that have collaborated against him and Wikileaks.
So far I have heard of PayPal, Amazon, Post Finance , Master Card and Visa. Any others?
You got to get them where it hurts and that is by withholding your money from them.

Since when do the Swiss care that you aren’t a resident when you keep a Swiss bank account?

There’s a difference between “froze funds” (which Postfinance did not) and “closed account” (which they did).

Simply put, they will ask the guy where he wants his money transferred to as soon as they can reach him, same as if he himself had closed the account.

treason to what government, do you think Assange is an American citizen?… and tell me one person that’s been physically harmed by wikileaks besides him being under threat from government’s and corporations that are out to get him and his people? The government says people COULD get hurt because of leaks, yet most of the leaks have no troop locations that are anywhere near current– if they have troop locations at all. The US government has not indicated a SINGLE person harmed because of these leaks– you don’t know what you’re talking about.

I just wish the corporations and governments of the world’s people didn’t keep hacking and messing up all the wikileaks mirror sites– But there is alot more going on in the world and alot more things people can help with if they wanna do something besides sit on the internet bitching..
either way FilmsForAction.org is a great place to start to find out about all sorts of issues from polotics, capitalism, health care, food security and agriculture, etc — there are hundreds of resources there

while this is essentially true, it is also a lot of the rich assholes that travel abroad, and many of the people who don’t have the ability to do so are not necessarily stupid hillbillies or anything either. Most people just want to raise their families and live their lives like anyone anywhere, but they don’t realize the control that the corporate interests, the media, and the government have over their lives. They certainly do not realize how they are being made puppets in this game. Yes, the American system is essentially broken. Unchecked capitalism cannot flourish. But I would say that at least half the people here have an idea of whats wrong with the system, but nobody has the means to change much because of such (corporate controlled) government censorship and biased (corporate controlled) media. But I suppose they ought to be afraid of WikiLeaks and the truth, because so many citizens have guns here, and if all of America knew about whats been going on in the name of “Freedom” they might stand up and take theirs back before it’s too late.

“People should not be afraid of their governments. The governments should be afraid of their people.”

the banks know what they’re doing. they’ve got permission and help from the us gov’t. They dont give a crap who starves if they make themselves and their friends richer. It wont stop unless enough people become informed enough to escape the cycle of ignorance which has perpetuated myriad problems and allowed them to grow. Otherwise the cycle of excessive consumerism will destroy the planet’s capability to sustain a large population. Sounds like what the rich are aiming for, then when the masses and the middle and lower class are gone they will be able to control the world easier during the next rebuild, right?

FilmsForAction.org — Let freedom be realized under no false pretenses or exploitation of others.

I wonder what the corporations and government calls the people they use to hack websites and prevent the spread of information protected in the constitution– hackers? information specialists? information CENSORS? have you not noticed the wikileak mirror sites will all have trouble from HACKERS paid for by Corporations or employed by the government– both entities which are trying to prevent the will of the people in a so-called democracy, to stop any substantial change from happening, and minimizing the damages so they and their rich friends can keep the money and the power for as long as possible…

Sigmund Freud.

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My anti-Wikileaks story started from the point Assagne release information on Hillary/UN. (I have some reason to disrespect UN lately.) So, Hillary was my hero. (In a political war, I believe being politically corrected is being fool. You have to play clever to win.) That’s where I started to doubt Assagne’s judgment if not suspect him playing insider role.
Blaming on war mongering temptation is fine, as soon as you also admit our side have all the good reason to fight the other side. (China/Tibet is one quick reminder for you.) _ When fighting with enemy, don’t lose your weapon. The best weapon in most cases, most of the time is the unity. Wikileaks doing a heck of a job of division with their top secret information releasing. Of course I have some reason to respect Assagne but I still think, what he is doing right now is ignorance.
You can fight to the end of time but always there are people much much richer than the rest of us. Our only choice is to bring on a capable leader that have the intention and capability to make our life getting better. _You might not believe me on this but I tell you, you just miss that opportunity by picking Obama over Hillary in your last election.

[...] Hackers take down website of bank that froze WikiLeaks funds [...]

[...] cannot find a map of Greece that contains the National Parks locations. Can you tell me a website that will allow me to find this information. From what I can tell… Wikipedia does have a list [...]

[...] wikileaks, rumors say. Now it seems they have cracked a swiss bank webseite. Read the article :http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/hackers-website-bank-froze-wikileaks-funds/ No comments for this entry [...]

I bet there’s a betting pool for when the US or another government takes him out. You just don’t embarrass the US gov that much and live for long.

All free thinking people should shelter him and the hackers all over the world should exact big revenge on those companies who help the gov persecute him and Wikileaks.

Oh especially PayPal !!!!! Bunch of Nazis !!!!! For years I’ve been hearing horror stories from little companies and websites that PayPal has kicked around, extorted from or put out of business, on just a whim or within their very rightwing paradigm. Man I hope these hackers can do some serious damage to PayPal !!!!!

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Yeah, ain’t it great? I first dismissed this story, thinking “Oh, Dickhead nor any other powerbroker like him will ever face any justice for the crimes they’ve committed against humanity. They never do unless they fall out of favor of the big boy’s circle.”

But then I realized that unlike the Spanish indictment of the Bush 6, this is for a business bribe and has nothing to do with his VP postition so Obama can’t protect him from this, like he has insisted on shielding all the Bush criminals from any investigations or charges— one of the first big red flags that told me Obama was not the man I campaigned for. By now he has proven to be a corporatist lackey and I am now fully opposed to him.

I was with you, mindboggeling, until you stated that Robert Gates is an authority. Until even people like you realize that (a) Robert Gates is not an authority and (b) never cite a war criminal as your authoritative source, nothing will change in America.

about five days ago

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Go ahead! Hack them all!

This is just the light of TRUTH shinning upon the works of darkness as the scriptures bear witness. Why does it surprise anyone that our government would not respond as it has. Perhaps if our government acted on the so-called christian principles it claims it was founded on it would not have anything to be embarrassed about. Kudos to Julian.

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[...] Operation Payback is now threatening to go after PayPal after claiming credit for shutting down the website of the Swiss bank PostFinance, Raw Story claims. [...]

The US government is no longer the servant of the people and serves only its own interests while enslaving the World. While we have no rights, they have no checks. While we enjoy zero privacy
, they demand absolute secrecy. While we would be arrested for trying to see our representatives uphold their oath, the US throws out international laws and justice in their rush to convict Assange. This is your country, this is your country on drugs.

We’ve got a list of people who would never be NetMissed: Sarah, Cheney, the chinless Solon, the tanned one, RushTush, the Mormon Hermaphrodite, the teabaggers. Fair Game all! Take ‘em down! Better ‘n Videp games. At last the Glory of CyberWar. It will bleed green!

Second!!!

There are probably several levels of WikiLeaks response. If Assange is killed, it’s safe to say the response would be dramatic-enough to bring the MIC to it’s knees.

So, back off, Holder. The thinking world knows you are attempting to contort law and stretch it to fit the Assange case. You have no case. Stop listening to Feinstein and the Neo Cons. You should be indicting Cheney. Do your damn job and leave Assange alone.

President Obama: Would you please present your misplaced Nobel Prize to it’s rightful owner?

Who Can Legally Foreclose on You?…

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They’re called 4chan, and they’re actually fight the elite head on, in cyberspace.

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Wikileaks was created by the NWOrder to destroy internet liberties, its a self-made enemy coutered by a self made pirate organization. In the middle of this shit, they take the opportunity to destroy payplal thats permits industry on the web and twitter worldwide communication. The first steps on closing down the web has begun. Now we are about to see real hackers fight the hackers of the governement, but I think they have little chance. <—THE ULTIMATE TRUTH

Hackers attack those banking fools and shut them down!!!!

John Lennon would be proud of julien

all of u people are genuis….ah…so nice to read about truths…are not those in power have their own personal agendas?…look at bush and what he did in iraq, no nuclear weapon at all….what they have, his family, are oil investments in iraq…according to the news…God bless u all

how nice to read truths, care of wikileaks…the people in power, they have personal agendas..i read that bush who did not find any nuclear weapon in iraq now owns oil intersts…plural….there

I like and respect the Swiss….I just think they have been morally overrated.

The revolution will not be televised. It will be digitized.

HELL F-ING YEAH BABY! POWER TO THE PEOPLE! POWER TO THE PEOPLE AGAINST TYRANNY! AGAINST TYRANNICAL CORPORATIONS, GOVERNMENTS, AND ANY GROUP, OR SINGLE ENTITY THAT GOES AGAINST HUMANITY AND OUR BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS. WE WILL NOT BE SUBMISSIVE, WE WILL NOT BE BEATEN DOWN, TAXED TO DEATH, RAPED AND PILAGED ANY LONGER! THE TRUTH W I L L COME OUT AND THOSE RESPONSIBLE FOR TYRANNY W I L L BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE!

Hackers launch cyber attacks after WikiLeaks’ funding cut…

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Ballad of the Whiskey Robber: A True Story of Bank Heists, Ice Hockey, Transylvanian Pelt Smuggling, Moonlighting Detectives, and Broken Hearts…

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Getting Insurance With the Help of a Motor Insurance Quote…

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Economy Below Worst-Case Track, Says Reserve Bank…

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Perhaps gmail and youtube are next in line? Not even high-performance PCs with Windows 7 Ultimate Edition are safe. Websites getting hacked, record gas prices expected to return, more than 8 major hurricanes forecast to make landfall in the U.S. in 2011, U.S. facing a bankruptcy threat…the end of the world is approaching.

Perhaps gmail and youtube are next in line? Not even high-performance PCs with Windows 7 Ultimate Edition are safe. Websites getting hacked, record gas prices expected to return, more than 8 major hurricanes forecast to make landfall in the U.S. in 2011, U.S. facing a bankruptcy threat…the end of the world is approaching.

LEGO DUPLO Toy Story Pizza Planet Truck 5658…

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I’m wondering if these hackers might consider taking down the Web site of the Westboro Baptist Church??? Please? Those people are despicable.

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Credit cards with rewards – Awards are not always the best measurement of a credit card…

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costs are always passed on to others as the cost of business.
the house never loses.

costs are always passed on to others as the cost of business.
the house never loses.

costs are always passed on to others as the cost of business.
the house never loses.

[...] Operation Payback is now threatening to go after PayPal after claiming credit for shutting down the website of the Swiss bank PostFinance, Raw Story claims. [...]

Real Estate Buyers Flock to Online Auction of Bank-Owned Assets…

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Eczema Pictures That Show Exactly How Eczema Looks Like…

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BOE Holds Bond-Purchase Plan on Signs Economy Will Withstand Spending Cuts…

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Build a website…NO, I haven’t taken the course; Old horse no new tricks.

Look within,
Hasn’t just about every man on the planet have a condom break while enjoying a woman’s sexual favors?
“How many stopped, removed it then went fumbling around for another one ? Have not heard of any who have.

The morning after party “especially for Julian” by our Ms Dibs certainly was given out of pleasure and not by a woman wronged.

Me thinks an irresistible amount money was flowing under the table causing the 180.

What a way to indoctrinate young people…The parents should be incarcerated for child abuse.
What these idiots don’t know is: The further from the church…The closer to God.
The congregation are fools, hypocrites, fear mongers and instigate hate. Were it not for the “money” there would be no church.
Hucksters is what they all are, truth be known. They interpret to suit there own needs and have no idea of “real truth’.

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Hitler would have been destroyed by the internet” dream on. It hasn’t changed anything for the people suffering under Iran, China, Myanmar or how about Indonesia? The internet is being used to track people. Some day the trap will spring on the people in the U.S. too.

This is so well researched and delivered on this topic… Victims in wars frame the nature of it, thereby, solutions for conflict emerge. Listen to what is said (also, Who Killed John O’Neill by Ryan Thurston). In this article there is the most impeccable formulation emerging to generate public interest for participation in a solution, and a swelling interest in and thus support for sweeping changes.

http://www.truth-out.org/beyond-wikileaks-files-the-privatization-war66239

Beyond WikiLeaks: The Privatization of War
Sunday 26 December 2010

by: Jose L. Gomez del Prado, UN Working Group on Mercenaries, t r u t h o u t | Report

The United Nation Human Rights Council, under the Universal Periodic Review, started in Geneva on November 5, 2010 to review the human rights record of the United States. The following is an edited version of the presentation given by Jose L. Gomez del Prado in Geneva on November 3, 2010 at a parallel meeting at the UN Palais des Nations on that occasion.

Private military and security companies (PMSC) are the modern reincarnation of a long lineage of private providers of physical force: corsairs, privateers and mercenaries. Mercenaries, which had practically disappeared during the 19th and 20th centuries, reappeared in the 1960s during the decolonization period, operating mainly in Africa and Asia. Under the United Nations, a convention was adopted which outlaws and criminalizes their activities. Additionally, Protocol I of the Geneva Conventions also contains a definition of mercenary.

These non-state entities of the 21st century operate in extremely blurred situations, where the frontiers are difficult to separate. The new security industry of private companies moves large quantities of weapons and military equipment. It provides services for military operations, recruiting former military as civilians to carry out passive or defensive security.

However, these individuals cannot be considered civilians, given that they often carry and use weapons, interrogate prisoners, load bombs, drive military trucks and fulfill other essential military functions. Those who are armed can easily switch from a passive-defensive to an active-offensive role and can commit human rights violations and even destabilize governments. They cannot be considered soldiers or supporting militias under international humanitarian law, either, since they are not part of the army or in the armed forces chain of command, and often belong to a large number of different nationalities.

PMSC personnel cannot usually be considered to be mercenaries, for the definition of mercenaries as stipulated in the international conventions dealing with this issue does not generally apply to the personnel of PMSCs, which are legally operating in foreign countries under contracts of legally registered companies.

Private military and security companies operate in a legal vacuum: they pose a threat to civilians and to international human rights law. The UN Human Rights Council has entrusted the UN Working Group on the use of mercenaries, principally via the following mandate:

To monitor and study the effects of the activities of private companies offering military assistance, consultancy and security services on the international market on the enjoyment of human Rights … and to prepare draft international basic principles that encourage respect for human rights on the part of those companies in their activities.

During the past five years, the Working Group has been studying emerging issues, manifestations and trends regarding private military and security companies. In our reports, we have informed the Human Rights Council and the General Assembly about these issues. Of particular importance are the reports of the Working Group to the last session of the Human Rights Council, held in September 2010, on the Mission to the United States of America, on the Mission to Afghanistan and the general report of the Working Group containing the draft of a possible Convention on Private Military and Security Companies for consideration and action by the Human Rights Council.

In the course of our research, since 2006, we have collected ample information which indicates the negative impact of the activities of “private contractors,” “private soldiers” or “guns for hire,” whatever denomination we may choose to name the individuals who are employed by private military and security companies as civilians but are also generally heavily armed. In the cluster of human rights violations allegedly perpetrated by employees of the companies the Working Group has examined, one can find: summary executions, acts of torture, cases of arbitrary detention, trafficking of persons and serious health damages caused by PMSC employee activities, as well as attempts against the right of self-determination. It also appears that PMSCs, in their search for profit, neglect security and do not provide their employees with their own basic rights and often put their staff in situations of danger and vulnerability.

Summary executions

On September 16, 2007 in Baghdad, employees of the US-based firm Blackwater [1] were involved in a shooting incident in Nisoor Square in which 17 civilians were killed and more than 20 other persons were wounded, including women and children. Local eyewitness accounts substantiate that the attack included the use of firearms from vehicles and rocket fire from a helicopter belonging to Blackwater.

There are also concerns about the activities and approach of PMSC personnel, their convoys of armored vehicles and their conduct in traffic – in particular, their use of lethal force. The Nisoor Square incident was neither the first of its kind, nor the first involving Blackwater.

According to a Congressional report on the behavior of Xe/Blackwater in Iraq, Xe/Blackwater guards were found to have been involved in nearly 200 escalation-of-force incidents that involved the firing of shots since 2005. Despite the terms of the contracts, which provided that the company could engage in defensive use of force only, the company reported that in over 80 percent of the shooting incidents, its forces fired the first shots.

In Najaf in April 2004 and on several other occasions, employees of this company took part in direct hostilities. In May 2007, another incident reportedly occurred in which guards belonging to the company and forces belonging to the Iraqi Ministry of the Interior allegedly exchanged gunfire in a sector of Baghdad.

On October 9, 2007 in central Baghdad, the shooting of employees of the PMSC Unity Resources Group (URG)[2], who were protecting a convoy, killed two Armenian women, Genevia Antranick and Mary Awanis, when their car came too close to a protected convoy. Antranick’s family was offered no compensation and has begun court proceedings against URG in the United States.

URG was also involved in the shooting of 72-year-old Australian Kays Juma. Professor Juma was shot in March 2006 as he approached an intersection that was being blockaded for a convoy URG was protecting. Juma, a 25-year resident of Baghdad who drove through the city every day, allegedly sped up his vehicle as he approached the guards and did not heed warnings to stop, including hand signals, flares, warning shots into the body of his car and floodlights. The incident occurred at 10 AM.[3]

Torture

Two US-based corporations, CACI and L-3 Services (formerly Titan Corporation), were involved in the torture of Iraqi detainees at Abu Ghraib. CACI and L-3 Services were contracted by the US government and were responsible for interrogation and translation services, respectively, at Abu Ghraib prison and other facilities in Iraq.

Seventy-two Iraqi citizens who were formerly detained at military prisons in Iraq have sued L-3 and Adel Nakhla, a former L-3 employee who served as one of its translators there under the Alien Tort Statute. The plaintiffs allege having been tortured and physically and mentally abused during their detention and maintain that the defendants should be held liable in damages for their actions. They assert 20 causes of action, including: torture; cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment; assault and battery; and intentional infliction of emotional distress.[4]

Arbitrary detention

A number of reports indicate that private security guards have played central roles in some of the most sensitive activities of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), such as the arbitrary detention of and clandestine raids against alleged insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan [5], CIA rendition flights [6], and joint covert operations.[7] Employees of PMSCs would have been involved in transporting detainees in rendition flights from “pick-up points” (such as Tuzla, Islamabad or Skopje) to drop-off points (such as Cairo, Rabat, Bucharest, Amman or Guantanamo) as well as in the construction, equipping and staffing of CIA “black sites.”

Within this context, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) filed a lawsuit in May 2007 against Jeppesen DataPlan Inc., a subsidiary company of Boeing, on behalf of five persons who were kidnapped by the CIA and disappeared into US secret services prisons overseas. Jeppesen would have participated in the rendition by providing flight planning and logistical support. The five persons were tortured during their arbitrary detention.[8]

Health

DynCorp International’s 2009 annual report refers to four lawsuits on behalf of three Ecuadorian provinces and 3,266 plaintiffs concerning the spraying of narcotic plant crops along the Colombian border adjacent to Ecuador.[9]

From 1991, the US Department of State contracted DynCorp to supply services for this air-spraying program against narcotics in the Andean region. In accordance with the subscribed contract of January 30, 1998, DynCorp provides the essential logistics to the anti-drug Office of Activities of Colombia in conformity with three main objectives: eradication of cultivations of illicit drugs, training of the army and of personnel of the country and dismantling of illicit drug laboratories and illicit drug-trafficking networks.

A nongovernmental organization (NGO) report documented the consequences the spraying, which was carried out within the Plan Colombia framework, had on persons living in the frontier region.[10] One-third of the 47 women in the study exposed to the spraying showed cells with some genetic damage. The study established the relationship between Plan Colombia air fumigations and damage to genetic material. The study demonstrates that when the population is subjected to fumigations, “the risk of cellular damage can increase and that, once permanent, the cases of cancerous mutations and important embryonic alterations are increased, that prompt among other possibilities the rise in abortions in the area.”

This example is particularly important given that Plan Colombia has served as the model for the arrangements that the US would apply later to Iraq and Afghanistan. Plan Colombia provides immunity to the employees of the contracted PMSC (DynCorp), just as Order 14 of the Coalition Provisional Authority did in Iraq.

Self-determination

The 2004 attempted coup d’etat perpetrated in Equatorial Guinea is a clear example of the link between the phenomenon of mercenaries and PMSCs as a means of violating the sovereignty of states. In this case, the mercenaries involved were mostly former directors and personnel of Executive Outcomes, a PMSC that became famous for its operations in Angola and Sierra Leone. The team of mercenaries also included security guards who were still employed by PMSCs, as was the case with two employees of the company Meteoric Tactical Systems – which provided security to diplomats of western embassies in Baghdad, including the ambassador of Switzerland – and a security guard who had previously worked for the PMSC Steele Foundation and had given protection to Haiti’s President Aristide and escorted him to the plane that took him to exile.[11]

Trafficking in persons

In 2005, 105 Chileans were providing or undergoing military training in the former army base of Lepaterique in Honduras, where they were instructed in anti-guerrilla tactics, such as anticipating possible ambushes and deactivation and avoidance of explosives and mortars. The Chileans had entered Honduras as tourists and their presence in the country was illegal. They used high-caliber weapons, such as M-16 rifles and light machine guns. They had been contracted by a subsidiary of a company called Triple Canopy.

The Chileans were part of a group that also included 189 Hondurans recruited and trained in Honduras. Triple Canopy had been awarded a contract by the US Department of State. The contingent left the country by air from San Pedro Sula, Honduras in several groups, stopping over in Iceland and, upon reaching the Middle East, were smuggled into Iraq.[12]

The majority of the Chileans and Hondurans were engaged as security guards at fixed facilities in Iraq. They had been contracted by Your Solutions Honduras SRL, a local agent of Your Solutions Incorporated, registered in the US state of Illinois. Your Solutions had in turn been subcontracted by the Chicago-based Triple Canopy. Some of the Chileans are presently working in Baghdad, providing security to the Embassy of Australia under a contract with Unity Resources Group (URG).

Human rights violations committed by PMSCs against their employees

PMSCs often put their contracted private guards in vulnerable and dangerous situations, such as the one faced by the Blackwater “private contractors” killed in Fallujah in 2004. Their fate was allegedly due to the lack of the necessary safety means – which Blackwater was supposed to provide – in order to carry out their mission.

It should not be forgotten that this incident dramatically changed the course of the war and of the United States’ occupation in Iraq. In fact, it may be considered the turning point in the occupation of Iraq. The incident led to an abortive US operation to recapture control of the city and the successful November 2004 recapture operation, known as Operation Phantom Fury, which resulted in the deaths of over 1,350 insurgent fighters. Approximately 95 American troops were killed and another 560 were wounded.

The US military first denied that it had used white phosphorus as an anti-personnel weapon in Fallujah, but later retracted that denial and admitted to using the incendiary in the city as an offensive weapon. Reports following the events of November 2004 have alleged war crimes and a massacre by US personnel, including indiscriminate violence against civilians and children. This point of view is presented in the 2005 documentary film, “Fallujah, the Hidden Massacre.” In 2010, the International Journal of Environmental Research and Public Health, a leading medical journal, published a study that shows that the rates of cancer, infant mortality and leukemia in Fallujah exceed those reported in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.[13]

The over 300,000 classified military documents made public by Wikileak’s show that the “Use of Contractors Added to War’s Chaos in Iraq,” as has been widely reported by the international media recently.

The United States continues to rely heavily on private military and security contractors in conducting its military operations. The US used private security contractors to conduct narcotics intervention operations in Colombia in the 1990s and recently signed a supplemental agreement that authorizes it to deploy troops and contractors in seven Colombian military bases. During the conflict in the Balkans, the US used a private security contractor to train Croat troops to conduct operations against Serbian troops. Currently, most of the US’s massive contracting of security functions to private firms takes place in the context of its operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.

In 2009, the Department of Defense employed 218,000 private contractor personnel, while there were 195,000 uniformed personnel. According to the figures, about 8 percent of these contractors are armed security contractors, or about 20,000 armed guards. If one includes other theatres of operations, the figure rises to 242,657, a figure comprised of 54,387 United States citizens, 94,260 third-country nationals and 94,010 host-country nationals.

The State Department relies on about 2,000 private security contractors to provide US personnel and facilities with personal protection and guard services in Afghanistan, Iraq, Israel and Pakistan, and to provide aviation services in Iraq. The contracts for protective services were awarded in 2005 to three PMSCs: Triple Canopy, DynCorp International and the US Training Center, part of the Xe (then-Blackwater) group of companies. These three companies still hold the State Department protective services contracts today.

Lack of transparency

The information accessible to the public on the scope and type of US-PMSC contracts is scarce and opaque. The lack of transparency is particularly significant when contracting companies subcontract to others. Often, despite the US’s extensive freedom of information rules, the contracts with PMSCs are not disclosed to the public, either because they contain confidential commercial information or based on the argument that non-disclosure is in the interest of national defense or foreign policy. The situation is particularly opaque when United States intelligence agencies contract PMSCs.

Lack of accountability

Despite their involvement in grave human rights violations, not a single PMSC or PMSC employee has been sanctioned.

In the course of litigation, several recurring legal arguments have been used in the defense of PMSCs and their personnel, including the government contractor defense, the political question doctrine and derivative immunity arguments. PMSCs are using the government contractor defense to argue that they were operating under the exclusive control of the government of the United States when the alleged acts were committed and therefore cannot be held liable for their actions.

It looks as though when acts questionable under international law are committed by agents of the government, they are considered human rights violations, but when these same acts are perpetrated by PMSCs, it is “business as usual.”

Human rights violations perpetrated by private military and security companies are indications of the threat posed to the foundations of democracy when inherently public functions – such as the monopoly on the legitimate use of force – become privatized. In this connection, I cannot help but to refer to the final speech of former US president Dwight D. Eisenhower.

In 1961, Eisenhower warned the American public against the growing danger of a military-industrial complex:

[W]e must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.

Fifty years later on September 8, 2001, Donald Rumsfeld, in his speech to the Department of Defense, warned the Pentagon military against:

an adversary that poses a threat, a serious threat, to the security of the United States of America. … Let’s make no mistake: The modernization of the Department of Defense is … a matter of life and death, ultimately, every American’s. … The adversary [is] the Pentagon bureaucracy. … That’s why we’re here today challenging us all to wage an all-out campaign to shift the Pentagon’s resources from bureaucracy to the battlefield, from tail to the tooth. We know the adversary. We know the threat. And with the same firmness of purpose that any effort against a determined adversary demands, we must get at it and stay at it. Some might ask, how in the world could the Secretary of Defense attack the Pentagon in front of its people? To them I reply, I have no desire to attack the Pentagon; I want to liberate it. We need to save it from itself.

Rumsfeld should have been more specific and cited the shift of the Pentagon’s resources from bureaucracy to the private sector. Indeed, that shift had been accelerated by the Bush administration: the number of persons employed by contracts that the Pentagon had outsourced was already four times more than at the Department of Defense.

It is not a military-industrial complex anymore, but, as Noam Chomsky has said, “just the industrial system operating under one or another pretext.” Dana Priest and William M. Arkin’s July 2010 article in the Washington Post, “Top Secret America: A hidden world, growing beyond control,” shows the extent that “the top-secret world the government created in response to the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, has become so large, so unwieldy and so secretive, that no one knows how much money it costs, how many people it employs, how many programs exist within it or exactly how many agencies do the same work.”

The investigation’s findings include that some 1,271 government organizations and 1,931 private companies work on programs related to counterterrorism, homeland security and intelligence in about 10,000 locations across the United States, and that an estimated 854,000 people – nearly 1.5 times as many people as live in Washington, D.C. – hold top-secret security clearances. A number of private military and security companies are among the security and intelligence agencies mentioned in the Post’s report.

The Working Group received information from several sources that up to 70 percent of the US intelligence budget is spent on contractors. These contracts are classified, and very little information is available to the public on the nature of the activities contractors carry out.

The privatization of war has created a structural dynamic that responds to the commercial logic of the industry.

A short look at the careers of the current managers of BAE Systems, as well as at their address books, confirms that we are no longer dealing with a normal corporation, but with a cartel that unites high-tech weaponry (BAE Systems, United Defense Industries, Lockheed Martin), speculative financiers (Lazard Freres, Goldman Sachs, Deutsche Bank) and raw material cartels (British Petroleum, Shell Oil) with on-the-ground, private military and security companies.[14]

The majority of private military and security companies have been created, or are managed by, former military members or ex-police-officers, for whom PMSCs are big business. Just to give an example, Military Professional Resources Incorporation (MPRI) was created by four former United States Army generals when they were due for retirement.[15] The same is true for Blackwater and its affiliate companies or subsidiaries, which employ former directors of the CIA.[16] Social scientists refer to this phenomenon as the revolving door syndrome.

The use of security contractors is expected to grow as American forces shrink. A July report by the Commission on Wartime Contracting, a panel established by Congress, estimated that the State Department alone would need more than double the number of contractors it had protecting the American Embassy and consulates in Iraq.

Without contractors: (1) the military engagement would have had to be smaller – a strategically problematic alternative; (2) the United States would have had to deploy its finite number of active personnel for even longer tours of duty – a politically dicey and short-sighted option; (3) the United States would have had to consider a civilian draft or boost retention and recruitment by raising military pay significantly – two politically untenable options; or (4) the need for greater commitments from other nations would have arisen and with it, the United States would have had to make more concessions to build and sustain a truly multinational effort. Thus, the tangible differences in the type of war waged, the effect on military personnel, and the need for coalition partners are greatly magnified when the government has the option to supplement its troops with contractors.[17]

The military cannot do without them. There are more contractors overall than actual members of the military serving in the worsening war in Afghanistan.

Conclusions of the Senate Armed Services Committee concerning the impact of private security contracting on US goals in Afghanistan[18]

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