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If having a political agenda disqualifies someone as a journalist, then no journalists at all work for Fox news, and maybe not for any alleged news agency.

Julian Assange maybe trying to save Americans from waste in policy. Why not ask him?

The main federal qui tam law the Federal Civil False Claims Act dates back to 1863. President Abraham Lincoln sought to enlist private citizens and their attorneys in the struggle against military contractors who sold rancid beef, broken rifles, lame horses, unseaworthy ships and other defective products.

http://gcn.com/articles/2006/04/18/qui-tam-law-the-whistleblowers-sword.aspx

Julian Assange maybe trying to save Americans from waste in policy. Why not ask him?

The main federal qui tam law the Federal Civil False Claims Act dates back to 1863. President Abraham Lincoln sought to enlist private citizens and their attorneys in the struggle against military contractors who sold rancid beef, broken rifles, lame horses, unseaworthy ships and other defective products.

http://gcn.com/articles/2006/04/18/qui-tam-law-the-whistleblowers-sword.aspx

The Pentagon Papers case over-ruled the Espionage Act of 1917:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Times_Co._v._United_States

The actual act states: “relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation”

How do any of these cross the barrier from embarrassing to compromising national defense?

I think I’ll continue to comment without government permission, thank you very much. It’ll be a very cold day in Hell before I ask permission from the government to make political or other kinds of comments, anywhere. Even if granted, their permission is meaningless.

As for the fevered minds in the State, Homeland Security, Justice and other departments of the government — especially in the War Department — they can all go screw themselves (or each other). For far too long, they’ve operated under the mistaken notion that we, the people, serve THEIR interests, rather than the other way around, just as the Wall Street barons have long operated on the assumption that us ‘plebes’ work/function/pay to serve THEIR acquisition of wealth.

I call BullShit on their assumptions and operating ethos! Feinstein is simply a fascist tool, (and a rather dull one, at that) as are far too many of those working in government, at all levels.

Diane Feinstein claims to be a Senator, but in fact she is an agitator intent on disrupting our system of informed democracy, because she hates the truth, regardless of who gets hurt or how much damage she does to the accountability of our government to its people.

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“Having unauthorized possession of” a suppressed video of children and Reuters reporters being indiscriminately slaughtered would make me a felon? Hmm. Warped minds at work. If a foreigner wants to show where that kind of authoritarianism is going, he’s a hero in my book. After all, aren’t we supposed to think highly of Jason Bourne?

“Having unauthorized possession of” a suppressed video of children and Reuters reporters being indiscriminately slaughtered would make me a felon? Hmm. Warped minds at work. If a foreigner wants to show where that kind of authoritarianism is going, he’s a hero in my book. After all, aren’t we supposed to think highly of Jason Bourne?

“Having unauthorized possession of” a suppressed video of children and Reuters reporters being indiscriminately slaughtered would make me a felon? Hmm. Warped minds at work. If a foreigner wants to show where that kind of authoritarianism is going, he’s a hero in my book. After all, aren’t we supposed to think highly of Jason Bourne?

We’re considered guilty until proven innocent and all have a free ride to Gitmo, so the ‘makes felons of us all,’ is a little tired.

We’re considered guilty until proven innocent and all have a free ride to Gitmo, so the ‘makes felons of us all,’ is a little tired.

We’re considered guilty until proven innocent and all have a free ride to Gitmo, so the ‘makes felons of us all,’ is a little tired.

A political objective of facilitating the release of information…disqualifies someone from being a journalist? Here I am in bizarro world again.

A political objective of facilitating the release of information…disqualifies someone from being a journalist? Here I am in bizarro world again.

A political objective of facilitating the release of information…disqualifies someone from being a journalist? Here I am in bizarro world again.

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Another Wilson legacy along with the Federal Reserve. He will eventually rank right down there with the shrub. Too bad that stroke didn’t happen sooner…..

Another Wilson legacy along with the Federal Reserve. He will eventually rank right down there with the shrub. Too bad that stroke didn’t happen sooner…..

Another Wilson legacy along with the Federal Reserve. He will eventually rank right down there with the shrub. Too bad that stroke didn’t happen sooner…..

So according to Rowley having a “particular political objective” disqualifies a person from being a real journalist. So what about Fox? And I know Rush is an “entertainer” though millions treat him as the god of truth. One rule for one group, a different one for another. Sounds like the banking game.

Now your actually trying to insert FACTS into the goverment’s witch hunt against soothsayers . . .

Awww, hell, why not? They already have the patriot act, which makes us all criminals before we ever have a charge filed, why not just make it a felony? That way they can keep the whole lot of us from voting, and run things the way they REALLY want to, lying all the while about how FREE we are. Damnit, I HATE politicians.

First off, the man has done NOTHING wrong. If an American citizen, Daniel Ellsberg, can steal and publish info about the military DURING a time of war, be taken to court under the same laws they want to prosecute Assange under, and WIN, then they got NOTHING. And they know it, too. They are trying to scare him into silence and intimidate anyone else who would do the same as Assange, but it’s already backfiring on them. There are other groups out there who vow to continue the same work. May they find out even more stuff that needs to come out and embarrass the flying fuck out of everyone who needs to leave office.

The thing about this that is so totally fucked up is that Wikileaks has been very careful about redacting anything that COULD cost someone their lives, FAR more than the gov’t itself has been. There has not been one case of anyone being put in danger, UNLIKE what happened when Cheney and his scum bag buddies outed Valerie Plame. You want to go after the REAL danger here, it’s CHENEY. if ANYONE should be in jail for eternity, it’s that fucking bastard.

Sunshine is a great disinfectant, and it’s time to shine it on the deepest recesses of this gov’t. It’s the ONLY way we can ever hope to keep it honest, if that is even possible. These jerk offs are pissed off because they are being exposed for the SCUM they are, not because of any actual state secrets that have been exposed. ONLY THEY have been exposed as the sell out bastards they are. And THAT is not illegal, regardless of WHO it is that does it.

“Mr. Assange obviously has a particular political objective behind his activities, and I think that, among other things, disqualifies him as being considered a journalist,” Crowley said.

If having “a particular political objective” is the litmus test, then no one on Fox news is a journalist and everyone of them who reported the Valerie Plame story are guilty and should be prosecuted under the Espionage Act.

Those elected officials that condemn the Wikileaks Truth Cells around the world are the liars that keep our government opaque — allowing corruption to pervade every space.

Those elected officials that condemn the Wikileaks Truth Cells around the world are the liars that keep our government opaque — allowing corruption to pervade every space.

Incriminate news for reporting itself?

“If having “a particular political objective” is the litmus test, then no one on Fox news is a journalist and everyone of them who reported the Valerie Plame story are guilty and should be prosecuted under the Espionage Act.”

Then no one at MSNBC is a journalist either.

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Prisons will be full with millions of people then huh?

How come no other country is doing this?
This is some scary stuff.
And I’m half Swedish, which I used to think was a better country than our when it comes to things like this, after all, I could easily have deserted the US Navy and lived in Sweden instead of serving in Vietnam, which I did.
I could even have come back to the US under that amnesty program they had awhile back (under Clinton? I forget).

Instead I fight for my country thinking that my country would take care of me in return. So much for that.

How come no other country is doing this?
This is some scary stuff.
And I’m half Swedish, which I used to think was a better country than our when it comes to things like this, after all, I could easily have deserted the US Navy and lived in Sweden instead of serving in Vietnam, which I did.
I could even have come back to the US under that amnesty program they had awhile back (under Clinton? I forget).

Instead I fight for my country thinking that my country would take care of me in return. So much for that.

How come no other country is doing this?
This is some scary stuff.
And I’m half Swedish, which I used to think was a better country than our when it comes to things like this, after all, I could easily have deserted the US Navy and lived in Sweden instead of serving in Vietnam, which I did.
I could even have come back to the US under that amnesty program they had awhile back (under Clinton? I forget).

Instead I fight for my country thinking that my country would take care of me in return. So much for that.

This whole Wikileaks reaction by our intelligence community is an attempt to intimidate us all into doing what they want, which is give them unchecked power. The problem with that is that power always corrupts. Always. Obama is even unwilling to give up the unprecedented power that we gave W.

And if there was anyone I’d think could resist corruption by power, that would be Obama, but apparently even he can’t resist this power over all of us.

This whole Wikileaks reaction by our intelligence community is an attempt to intimidate us all into doing what they want, which is give them unchecked power. The problem with that is that power always corrupts. Always. Obama is even unwilling to give up the unprecedented power that we gave W.

And if there was anyone I’d think could resist corruption by power, that would be Obama, but apparently even he can’t resist this power over all of us.

This whole Wikileaks reaction by our intelligence community is an attempt to intimidate us all into doing what they want, which is give them unchecked power. The problem with that is that power always corrupts. Always. Obama is even unwilling to give up the unprecedented power that we gave W.

And if there was anyone I’d think could resist corruption by power, that would be Obama, but apparently even he can’t resist this power over all of us.

Oh, don’t worry about us. We’re all used to being domestic terrorists by now.

The US is the last refuge of scoundrels.

The prison industrial complex is salivating at the thought. Or, maybe, that’s what them FEMA camps they keep talking about are for. Just like what they did to the Japanese during WWII, only this time around, they’re gonna gather them all the dissenters and ‘domestic terrorists’

Under the Act, anyone “having unauthorized possession of” information relating to the national defense or information that could be “used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation” may be prosecuted if he or she publishes it or “willfully retains” it.

Oh, goodie. Does that mean that they’re now gonna be nailing all those AIPAC bastards?
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Yeah, right. That’s I thought.

If U.S. AG Eric Holder uses the Espionage Act against Assange, then he will have to also use it against all the former Bush/Cheney administration officials who traitorously participated in the outing of covert CIA agent Valerie Plame Wilson, the biggest national security breach since the 1950s and the Cold War.

Valerie Plame Wilson’s CIA identity was highly compartmentalized at the CIA. Very few people at the CIA, a handful at most, even knew that she was a covert non-official-cover CIA agent, and no one OUTSIDE the CIA was privy to this ultra-top-secret information…unless someone started digging…like top Bush/Cheney administration officials did in July 2003, apparently spurred on by Veep Dick Cheney’s office.

Somehow this ultra-top-secret information about covert NOC CIA agent Valerie Plame Wilson LEAKED out of the CIA and into the top echelons of the Bush/Cheney administration, where her name and CIA employment started getting tossed carelessly around.

A CIA official twice warned Robert Novak about revealing her ties to the CIA before his column was published, with the CIA official not being able to say specifically why this would be bad, so Novak did it anyway, blowing Valerie Plame Wilson’s cover in the process.

Other “journalists” were also involved (Tim Russert, Judith Miller), who were also told about Valerie Plame Wilson’s CIA connections, all for the purpose of top Bush/Cheney administration officials getting back at her husband, former U.S. Ambassador Joe Wilson.

And it doesn’t matter who started this treasonous chain of events (Richard Armitage, or so it’s claimed). Anyone with this ultra-top-secret information about covert NOC CIA agent Valerie Plame Wilson in their possession, and then told others, violated the Espionage Act and should be tried and convicted, from George W. Bush on down…not just Scooter Libby.

And after top Bush/Cheney administration officials blew Valerie Plame Wilson’s cover, they retroactively sought to declassify everything so that they could claim that they hadn’t committed treason, hadn’t violated the Espionage Act, hadn’t revealed highly classified, ultra-top-secret information, hadn’t blown a covert CIA agents cover for purely political purposes/vengeance.

So, Mr. Holder, do your job. Forget about Assange. Instead, go after the traitorous Republicans from the previous criminal Bush/Cheney administration and convict them for espionage, endangering our national security…which they definitely did.

No matter how much I detest Assange, we have to grow up , and start keeping secrets out of the public domain. You can’t make what he’s doing illegal. We have to prevent data getting out. Start false leaks. Wish we could get them to focus on leaking Russian secrets , or Chinese secrets , or how about Pakistan?

No matter how much I detest Assange, we have to grow up , and start keeping secrets out of the public domain. You can’t make what he’s doing illegal. We have to prevent data getting out. Start false leaks. Wish we could get them to focus on leaking Russian secrets , or Chinese secrets , or how about Pakistan?

The U.S. government will persecute and prosecute someone for exposing the criminal activity of the U.S. government at the same time it’s actively protecting international war criminals from prosecution! Sewing the seeds for the next 9-11!

The U.S. government will persecute and prosecute someone for exposing the criminal activity of the U.S. government at the same time it’s actively protecting international war criminals from prosecution! Sewing the seeds for the next 9-11!

The U.S. government will persecute and prosecute someone for exposing the criminal activity of the U.S. government at the same time it’s actively protecting international war criminals from prosecution! Sewing the seeds for the next 9-11!

I found this article via Michael Moore’s site. What a great article. We are all felons now!! Good, the more of us that are classified as such the harder it becomes for the ptb to continue their willful and immoral conduct towards the citizenry.

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