This is really funny. What would happen to Iceland’s tourist industry if Visa and Mastercard are cut off? From this article, can we assume that AMEX is allowing it’s cardholders to support WikiLeaks?
By the way, I thought that they were going to change their name to Fredonia?

Wow. Can you imagine, even if it is only little old Iceland who banishes the major credit card companies. That just might start the turn of events, that is so badly needed. If only Canada had the balls of our northern neighbors….Lets keep the pressure on them, every way we can.. the movement is not fizzling out, its just starting, and just like WW1, the trenches will deepen, as the war of transparency continues…

awesomeness.

awesomeness.

WOO-HOO! Go Iceland! C’mon other countries! (U.S.? Ha! Ha! Ha!)

WOO-HOO! Go Iceland! C’mon other countries! (U.S.? Ha! Ha! Ha!)

I would LOVE to see ALL credit cards banned; thus turning the world into a “Cash-And-Carry” economy. Credit, along with insurance companies, are the two largest corporate destructors of sound personal finance. No debt, no stress. Of course exceptions could be made for home-buying and yacht-buying. (The second was fer fun.)

I would LOVE to see ALL credit cards banned; thus turning the world into a “Cash-And-Carry” economy. Credit, along with insurance companies, are the two largest corporate destructors of sound personal finance. No debt, no stress. Of course exceptions could be made for home-buying and yacht-buying. (The second was fer fun.)

Visa/Mastercard have come very close to the capitalist ideal of skimming X% off every financial transaction just for being there, amounting to many billions per year.
There are many many times where consumers don’t need that, yet they’ve been maneuvered into using them.
Want an instant and permanent boost to the economy? Don’t use them.

Visa/Mastercard have come very close to the capitalist ideal of skimming X% off every financial transaction just for being there, amounting to many billions per year.
There are many many times where consumers don’t need that, yet they’ve been maneuvered into using them.
Want an instant and permanent boost to the economy? Don’t use them.

Makes me proud to have been born in Iceland.

Makes me proud to have been born in Iceland.

Greenland, too?

Greenland, too?

corporate america and the US government are barely a half step away from being a full fledged FASCIST GOVT.

corporate america and the US government are barely a half step away from being a full fledged FASCIST GOVT.

hats off Iceland and swiss, you are the true supporters of free speach. We support you for this effort at least.

hats off Iceland and swiss, you are the true supporters of free speach. We support you for this effort at least.

yeah right. I’ll believe it when I see it.

yeah right. I’ll believe it when I see it.

a half step away? I’d say we are already there. They simply haven’t told us yet.

a half step away? I’d say we are already there. They simply haven’t told us yet.

You can see a good example of this at gas stations: They have two prices for fuel, Cash and credit…guess which one is more expensive?

You can see a good example of this at gas stations: They have two prices for fuel, Cash and credit…guess which one is more expensive?

they make some good arguments. at least they get their point out there… and allow room for more opinions.

they make some good arguments. at least they get their point out there… and allow room for more opinions.

Ha ha ha! Let the games begin!

If anyone owes a great deal to WikiLeaks that would be the people of Iceland as it was them that uncovered the endemic corruption and kleptocracy in their own government, thus, allowing them to take back the power and control of their own destinies. Because they allowed those giant vampire banksters to fail flat on their ugly faces, today, Iceland is stronger and better.

Boycott and ban the bastards!

Oh, yeah, and see, being a lapdog of the US is beginning to have a negative effect. He he he…

Ha ha ha! Let the games begin!

If anyone owes a great deal to WikiLeaks that would be the people of Iceland as it was them that uncovered the endemic corruption and kleptocracy in their own government, thus, allowing them to take back the power and control of their own destinies. Because they allowed those giant vampire banksters to fail flat on their ugly faces, today, Iceland is stronger and better.

Boycott and ban the bastards!

Oh, yeah, and see, being a lapdog of the US is beginning to have a negative effect. He he he…

Ha ha ha! Let the games begin!

If anyone owes a great deal to WikiLeaks that would be the people of Iceland as it was them that uncovered the endemic corruption and kleptocracy in their own government, thus, allowing them to take back the power and control of their own destinies. Because they allowed those giant vampire banksters to fail flat on their ugly faces, today, Iceland is stronger and better.

Boycott and ban the bastards!

Oh, yeah, and see, being a lapdog of the US is beginning to have a negative effect. He he he…

That’s a dumb reason, a company shouldn’t be compelled to do business with something it doesn’t agree with. People shouldn’t be compelled either. If Mastercard and Visa decide they don’t want to do business with Wikileaks they have the right to not. Just as you have the right to not do business with either of those companies.

That’s a dumb reason, a company shouldn’t be compelled to do business with something it doesn’t agree with. People shouldn’t be compelled either. If Mastercard and Visa decide they don’t want to do business with Wikileaks they have the right to not. Just as you have the right to not do business with either of those companies.

That’s a dumb reason, a company shouldn’t be compelled to do business with something it doesn’t agree with. People shouldn’t be compelled either. If Mastercard and Visa decide they don’t want to do business with Wikileaks they have the right to not. Just as you have the right to not do business with either of those companies.

Iceland, yes. Switzerland? Well, not to such. Remember, they’ve jumped on the witch hunt bandwagon too.

Iceland, yes. Switzerland? Well, not to such. Remember, they’ve jumped on the witch hunt bandwagon too.

Actually, there are two steps missing: a dictator (2012?) and Martial Law (as soon as there is another “terrorist” attack)

Actually, there are two steps missing: a dictator (2012?) and Martial Law (as soon as there is another “terrorist” attack)

I certainly hope you’re still there in not in Fascistland.

I certainly hope you’re still there in not in Fascistland.

Are you kidding? The US will probably be invading Iceland on account of that one.

Are you kidding? The US will probably be invading Iceland on account of that one.

They also allowed their broke banksters to fail. WikiLeaks exposed it all so, I guess they must feel indebted to them.

They also allowed their broke banksters to fail. WikiLeaks exposed it all so, I guess they must feel indebted to them.

The fact that credit cards are not used in the country hasn’t hurt Cuba’s tourism none.

The fact that credit cards are not used in the country hasn’t hurt Cuba’s tourism none.

A ban would be great irony – though it is not likely in a real world of tourism and international trade.

However the Wikileaks case may prove to be the final nudge needed to get an alternative, non-US-based credit card system up and running. And that would be true poetic justice.

A ban would be great irony – though it is not likely in a real world of tourism and international trade.

However the Wikileaks case may prove to be the final nudge needed to get an alternative, non-US-based credit card system up and running. And that would be true poetic justice.

So if MasterCard decides they don’t want to process transactions for the RNC or the DNC or any particular candidate because they support the other party that is perfectly fine???
This is one of the dangers of e-cash, the banks can shut off anyone they disagree with for any reason. Electronic funds need to be as neutral as hard cash or we will be even more enslaved by the banks.

So if MasterCard decides they don’t want to process transactions for the RNC or the DNC or any particular candidate because they support the other party that is perfectly fine???
This is one of the dangers of e-cash, the banks can shut off anyone they disagree with for any reason. Electronic funds need to be as neutral as hard cash or we will be even more enslaved by the banks.

Defeating the powers of wealth is actually easy, been done before and not to hard to figure out.

Don’t use them, they will die of starvation.

If you bitched about BofA or Citi or any of the others and you still use their services, you are the fricken problem, and a hypocrite.

Defeating the powers of wealth is actually easy, been done before and not to hard to figure out.

Don’t use them, they will die of starvation.

If you bitched about BofA or Citi or any of the others and you still use their services, you are the fricken problem, and a hypocrite.

No, you are right, no one should be compelled to do anything. Of course why would I bitch about something then use it, that would make me either full of shit or completely stupid wouldn’t it.

If you plan to support these financial institutions by given them your business, you should keep your lying piehole shut and take the butt reaming in silence.

Easiest way to stop people from fishing is to kill all the fish.

No, you are right, no one should be compelled to do anything. Of course why would I bitch about something then use it, that would make me either full of shit or completely stupid wouldn’t it.

If you plan to support these financial institutions by given them your business, you should keep your lying piehole shut and take the butt reaming in silence.

Easiest way to stop people from fishing is to kill all the fish.

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If you all can pull this off, we’re talking legendary hero status.

Fight on!

If you all can pull this off, we’re talking legendary hero status.

Fight on!

“Neither company has offered a detailed explanation of why they stopped processing payments to WikiLeaks. MasterCard said only that WikiLeaks had acted in an “ILLEGAL” manner, in violation of the company’s terms.”

i wonder what types of credit cards the bankster & wall street carry?

“Neither company has offered a detailed explanation of why they stopped processing payments to WikiLeaks. MasterCard said only that WikiLeaks had acted in an “ILLEGAL” manner, in violation of the company’s terms.”

i wonder what types of credit cards the bankster & wall street carry?

Good catch. I had that problem in geography class too. (-:)

Good catch. I had that problem in geography class too. (-:)

Did Visa and MC stop doing business with Wikileaks because of ideological reasons, or was it really because they were quietly pressured by the US gov and/or crooked industry execs?

Did Visa and MC stop doing business with Wikileaks because of ideological reasons, or was it really because they were quietly pressured by the US gov and/or crooked industry execs?

“Don’t use them, they will die of starvation.”

Well said, WhiteBoy. BUT, how do you get the masses to actually MASS to effect such changes as can only be done in large numbers. I believe the phrase “…like herding cats” applies here.

“Don’t use them, they will die of starvation.”

Well said, WhiteBoy. BUT, how do you get the masses to actually MASS to effect such changes as can only be done in large numbers. I believe the phrase “…like herding cats” applies here.

You’re a Master of Understatement…

You’re a Master of Understatement…

You’re a Master of Understatement…

You’re a Master of Understatement…

Get rid of all these credit card companies scamming us. Bring back cash and debit.

Get rid of all these credit card companies scamming us. Bring back cash and debit.

“Neither company has offered a detailed explanation of why they stopped processing payments to WikiLeaks”

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Uhh…..because the government told them too!!!! The military/industrial complex is alive and well in Amerika. Ike warned us about this. We didn’t listen.

“Neither company has offered a detailed explanation of why they stopped processing payments to WikiLeaks”

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Uhh…..because the government told them too!!!! The military/industrial complex is alive and well in Amerika. Ike warned us about this. We didn’t listen.

“Neither company has offered a detailed explanation of why they stopped processing payments to WikiLeaks”

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Uhh…..because the government told them too!!!! The military/industrial complex is alive and well in Amerika. Ike warned us about this. We didn’t listen.

Actually we’re already there…Have been for some time.
It’s often a subtlety incremental transition until the whole thing becomes obvious by looking at its combined elements.
Here are some of the elements of a fascist government.

Recognize any?….

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism – Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottoes, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights – Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of “need.” The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause – The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

4. Supremacy of the Military – Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

5. Rampant Sexism – The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.

6. Controlled Mass Media – Sometimes media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

7. Obsession with National Security – Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined – Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government’s policies or actions.

9. Corporate Power is Protected – The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

10. Labor Power is Suppressed – Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts – Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment – Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses, and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption – Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

14. Fraudulent Elections – Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

Well if you do it Iceland I’m very, very proud of you.

Well that is the trick I guess. I am pretty sure waiting for people to take action is a fools errand. So you get them to change even if they don’t want to. Hmm let me think, how could we get that accomplish. PR.

Lets ask the masters, the church, the governments, they are pretty good at it.

I think this guy knows.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0OrT-8gXMs

See we used to call it propaganda, but the Germans gave that a bad name, so Big daddy re-branded it as Public Relations.

Incredibly effective, especially in societies where facts are marginalized in the face of belief/mythology.

WMD ring any bells?

The Explanation is Simply Panic..

Panic when each is Exposed as the Frauds, Crooks and Gangstas that they are.

btw they’re also jew terrorists.

Column A and column B, most likely.

the one’s where they spend the money and the taxpaying workers pay the bills…

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Actually, you’d do more good using your credit card and then paying everything off at the end of the month, thus depriving them of a good deal of their revenue.

We’re already in the position that we can’t start a war with the Chinese or they will remove our manufacturing base. And all these threats against Iran are a joke because all they have to do is stop selling oil on the open market and the U.S. will be in an even worse depression with inflation this time.

If the corporations say it’s illegal, it’s illegal. Kind of a corollary to Nixon’s “if the president does it, it’s legal.”

I’d settle for a return to the usury laws, where anything over 7% is a crime.

Actually you would do more harm not using the cards at all because every purchase you make, they get a percentage (discount rate)… whether you pay off the balance or not. Just say no to the credit card companies… aka banksters. The retailers and consequently… you…pay the discount rate.

A government with some balls and integrity. Just imagine.

You go, Iceland. Leave MasterCard & VISA out in the cold.

Just ban credit card slavery all together.

No, when a company decides to wade into the public pool and do business with the public, they can not discriminate, period. If MC and Visa want to “make money processing transactions”, then they must process ALL transactions until they are given the legal requirement to stop.. which requires DUE PROCESS by the government.

By your suggestion, restaurants should be to hang a sign out front that says “no blacks allowed”. We had that once, we didn’t like it. A lot of people fought and died to fix that wrong, this is in the same family of affronts.

Why the hell do we have to count on OTHER countries to do the right thing, YET, … we here in the US wont do SHIT to the crooks in this country?

You should be.

You should be.

My dearest Iceland, is there nothing you can do about PayPal and Amazon? Surely they have earned a place of honor alongside Visa & MasterCard.

Nice to see that still have some politicians with morals and balls living in the earth… Let’s see that becomes action or just words.

i prefer your solution.

Mastercard and Visa a monopoly? Who would have thought.

I’m sure Big Plastic will quake at the thought of a small island of bankrupt Vikings not being able to charge their Brennivin anymore.

That’s what I do. I’m forced to use them for business.

That’s what I do. I’m forced to use them for business.

They charge the merchants for taking the card. These bastards never lose.

They charge the merchants for taking the card. These bastards never lose.

Iceland seems like a cool place, pun intended. ;( Iceland is actually working their way out of bankruptcy nicely from what I read.

Iceland seems like a cool place, pun intended. ;( Iceland is actually working their way out of bankruptcy nicely from what I read.

Yes, Iceland is working out of its bankruptcy. You know why?

Iceland JAILED the bankers
and told the so-called “too big to fail” banks to FUCK OFF.

No bailouts.

Epic win :) grats to iceland :D

WE LOVE WIKILEAKS
http://213.251.145.96/

They tried, and nearly almost did, albeit through a financial hostage takeover, but Iceland has fought back from the siege that Europe is now under. See the movie Inside Job and the new documentary of Wikileaks (http://stopthewar.co.uk/) for reference.

I wish my country were as courageous. No doubt my president will be cracking nut to get the investigation stopped.

We all know the answer. Because in the final analysis, WE are the biggest rogue state in the world. Not Iran, not North Korea. It’s us. We’re the epicenter, the principal driver and enabling power of the corporate fascist takeover of planet Earth.

I know they did. They are my heroes, each and every single one of them. WikiLeaks uncovered that whole scam too.

Thanks for the links. I’ll be watching those.

Hope it happens! They certainly deserve it. I know the kind of people who become VPs in such organizations as credit card companies, and they are NOT good people however good they are at glad handing. It wasn’t a fiduciary or legal decision that prompted their action, it was the head-in-the-sand narrow-minded bigotry of status quo maintenance that rules organizations after crippling downsizing. Ants rebuilding ant hills so they can wear their pastel button downs and feel like their Sunday mega church sermons make sense. If there were creative decent people, they didn’t survive the first cuts of the recession. The survivors who clung to their jobs at the expense of others deserve what’s coming to them after trying to help kill freedom in the form of wikileaks.

Hope it happens! They certainly deserve it. I know the kind of people who become VPs in such organizations as credit card companies, and they are NOT good people however good they are at glad handing. It wasn’t a fiduciary or legal decision that prompted their action, it was the head-in-the-sand narrow-minded bigotry of status quo maintenance that rules organizations after crippling downsizing. Ants rebuilding ant hills so they can wear their pastel button downs and feel like their Sunday mega church sermons make sense. If there were creative decent people, they didn’t survive the first cuts of the recession. The survivors who clung to their jobs at the expense of others deserve what’s coming to them after trying to help kill freedom in the form of wikileaks.

go iceland! damn, that’s fast.
what legal right did those two credit card companies have to do that any? and why isn’t that question ever asked, and asked again, in the US and most of Europe etc….

go iceland! damn, that’s fast.
what legal right did those two credit card companies have to do that any? and why isn’t that question ever asked, and asked again, in the US and most of Europe etc….

I’ve watched “Century of the Self Parts 1-4″ a few times now. Every consumer and voter should watch this great BBC documentary. Learn why You do what You do! It’s a barrel of monkeys!
If you got the time…:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6718420906413643126#

I’ve watched “Century of the Self Parts 1-4″ a few times now. Every consumer and voter should watch this great BBC documentary. Learn why You do what You do! It’s a barrel of monkeys!
If you got the time…:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6718420906413643126#

well, as glenn greenwald has been so clear about pointing out for quite some time, over on salon in his blog, the US and its elites are now so powerful and entrenched basically they are reacting lawlessly, using 9-11 and now their phone war on terror as the excuse for all sorts of lawless behavior from the invasions and occupations of Iraq and Afgan-i-Nam to their lawless wiretapping/recording of everthing that passes through the US on the internet cables, to their renditions and torture, and black hole sites throughout the world, to illegally bombing in yemen as we have recently learned, to their complicity in the illegal and unconstitutional coup in honduras, to their current fight with wikileaks, encouraging if not ordering these US based multinationals to cut off and try to strangle wikileaks via several avenues, and by seeing to it that Julian is arrested…..etc etc

Work on your Gasifiers for backup!

http://www.gekgasifier.com/

When Obama was still on his honeymoon with the american people, he passed his credit card “reform” stuff and even in doing so, he could not get them to cap interest rates at 30%. I knew right then that we were in trouble. It’s too bad it took the rest of the country’s progressives so long to catch up.

Making a Yacht your home might not be a bad investment. They are giving Yachts away these days. I was offered a 35′ Yacht for free last spring. Didn’t take it, they chainsawed it into a dumpster. House was foreclosed and trailerless Yacht had to go. A Green way to get the fuck away from the USA especially if the inboard motor is diesel and you run it on Veg oil. Or use a gasifier with care. Someone out there must be doing it…
http://www.gekgasifier.com/

Funny thing is, when the public finally decides to go lawless just as
they have, … the elites, will be missing important body parts.

Think French!

Please tell me what the alternative is. I just got notification today and Chase will be charging me $12 a month unless I maintain a $1500 minimum balance in my checking account. Since I rarely have more than $1000 in there at any one time, I don’t know where they think I’m going to come up with the extra $12. I’d be open to switching to any bank that would give me what I’ve had for the last 27 years – an account that is free as long as I don’t go below zero. The twice bailed-out banking bastards will not stop until they get EVERYTHING that everyone has!

Definitely a must watch for anyone who wants to have some control over their own life.

If you do not understand how it’s done you might miss it completely.

Cause you know, we didn’t just bring rocket scientists and the Butcher of Lyon back.

That’s not how oil works. All oil no matter who digs it up is put on the commodities market.

Iran can’t chose where it’s oil goes any more than Hugo Chavez can.

Credit cards charge the retailer. I believe the average is around 3% of all sales, so no, that won’t stop there profits.

They love guys like me who pay off their balances every month.

Most people who can afford big ticket items and use a credit card for them pay their balances off every month.

I would never hold a balance on a card since I can always get a better rate in the form of a loan of via a HELOC.

You know – we have football, baseball and basket ball…and we used to have paycheks too. Have patinece it will sink in one day that the jobs Congress helped exporting are not coming back!

You know – we have football, baseball and basket ball…and we used to have paycheks too. Have patinece it will sink in one day that the jobs Congress helped exporting are not coming back!

You just wish you had the balls, the commitment to real freedom, and the conviction that Iceland does,

You just wish you had the balls, the commitment to real freedom, and the conviction that Iceland does,

From your keyboard to God’s ear.

From your keyboard to God’s ear.

WTF does that have to do with my comment? Go project on someone else.

WTF does that have to do with my comment? Go project on someone else.

Vikings were antisemitic?.

Vikings were antisemitic?.

Fascinating coverage of the Iceland story starting at 16:40 in the Wikirebels documentary.

http://svtplay.se/v/2264028/wikirebels_the_documentary

Fascinating coverage of the Iceland story starting at 16:40 in the Wikirebels documentary.

http://svtplay.se/v/2264028/wikirebels_the_documentary

Amazing list. All 14 items apply to life in the US today, especially 2, 3, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 13, and 14. We’ve gone all the way with number 2.

Amazing list. All 14 items apply to life in the US today, especially 2, 3, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 13, and 14. We’ve gone all the way with number 2.

Thanks for posting that link. I’ll watch it for sure. I saw a 1-hr documentary on WikiLeaks over the weekend where they touched on that and I’m very interested in the story.

Thanks for posting that link. I’ll watch it for sure. I saw a 1-hr documentary on WikiLeaks over the weekend where they touched on that and I’m very interested in the story.

[laughs, yawns]

[laughs, yawns]

all too subliminal to comprehend. Only worth trying for the entertainment value. For me anyway.

all too subliminal to comprehend. Only worth trying for the entertainment value. For me anyway.

[...] to this story, the Parliament of Iceland is considering taking away MasterCard and Visa’s lisences to [...]

Corporations are government-created entities, far different from 2 or more people forming a partnership or simple company. Therefore the management of corporations are always in some manner in cahoots with government in one of its many agencies/facets – each one scratching the back of the other, including the pocketbooks of many individual politicians (or their campaigns) and favored legislation for a business sector or specific corporation.

Consequently it was not really too surprising to me – though personally very annoying – to read last week that PayPal, MasterCard and Visa cut accounts to WikiLeaks (along with Amazon dropping hosting services). (I responded with canceling my PP and Amazon accounts and reducing usage of the 2 CC companies to emergencies only {though balances were paid off monthly} – announced publicly along with suggestions for how an individual can help WikiLeaks- http://selfsip.org/focus/helpwikileaks.html)
All of these are corporations and will curry favor with the US government to protect and maintain their (legally favored) status. A valuable (viewed wide range and long term) medium range objective would be to eliminate the status of corporation; in the meantime, corporations, as government-created entities, properly should be held to the requirement of maintaining services to those who have not been *convicted* of illegal acts (keeping in mind that “illegal” is whatever a government defines as so). It appears that Iceland’s government has made the first steps along this path; how far it goes is another question. But citizens there could direct it to keep going, especially if they understand the longterm benefits.

Bottom line, being discriminating in one’s associations – Socially Preferencing towards or against an individual, group or company (association of individuals) – is a personal decision, and corporations are *not* persons.

Corporations are government-created entities, far different from 2 or more people forming a partnership or simple company. Therefore the management of corporations are always in some manner in cahoots with government in one of its many agencies/facets – each one scratching the back of the other, including the pocketbooks of many individual politicians (or their campaigns) and favored legislation for a business sector or specific corporation.

Consequently it was not really too surprising to me – though personally very annoying – to read last week that PayPal, MasterCard and Visa cut accounts to WikiLeaks (along with Amazon dropping hosting services). (I responded with canceling my PP and Amazon accounts and reducing usage of the 2 CC companies to emergencies only {though balances were paid off monthly} – announced publicly along with suggestions for how an individual can help WikiLeaks- http://selfsip.org/focus/helpwikileaks.html)
All of these are corporations and will curry favor with the US government to protect and maintain their (legally favored) status. A valuable (viewed wide range and long term) medium range objective would be to eliminate the status of corporation; in the meantime, corporations, as government-created entities, properly should be held to the requirement of maintaining services to those who have not been *convicted* of illegal acts (keeping in mind that “illegal” is whatever a government defines as so). It appears that Iceland’s government has made the first steps along this path; how far it goes is another question. But citizens there could direct it to keep going, especially if they understand the longterm benefits.

Bottom line, being discriminating in one’s associations – Socially Preferencing towards or against an individual, group or company (association of individuals) – is a personal decision, and corporations are *not* persons.

This is where the rubber meets the road. What Assange has been doing is the first serious counterattack against those (the current BGs) who would destroy public process forever. Iceland has sat up and taken notice. How ’bout it, y’all? Hint: Running for Prez in the U.S. won’t fix it. Unrig the game first.

This is where the rubber meets the road. What Assange has been doing is the first serious counterattack against those (the current BGs) who would destroy public process forever. Iceland has sat up and taken notice. How ’bout it, y’all? Hint: Running for Prez in the U.S. won’t fix it. Unrig the game first.

It’s just a primmer. There is lots of hard documentation on this, practical examples. etc.

If you really want to get into it. It’s long term stuff, not turning light switches on and off.

Germany used it to great effect on the French before WW2, very specific usage.

Putting loud speakers on Apache helicopters and blasting music… soon that music becomes the beacon of death.

A mind is a wonderful thing to break.

It’s just a primmer. There is lots of hard documentation on this, practical examples. etc.

If you really want to get into it. It’s long term stuff, not turning light switches on and off.

Germany used it to great effect on the French before WW2, very specific usage.

Putting loud speakers on Apache helicopters and blasting music… soon that music becomes the beacon of death.

A mind is a wonderful thing to break.

And the merchants raise their prices to cover the cost, passing the charges on to both card users and non-card users.

And the merchants raise their prices to cover the cost, passing the charges on to both card users and non-card users.

And the merchants raise their prices to cover the cost, passing the charges on to both card users and non-card users.

“Unrig the game first.” exactly, Risa Bear! ICELAND! ICELAND! ICELAND!

americans don’t seem to take notice of anything at all. public sponsored elections are not on anyone’s radar – especially after the ‘citizens united’ corruption of the constitution by its own supreme court. after the 2012 election that obama will win because no primary challengers will be allowed, a standing democratic president will abolish or cripple social security and medicare and pay homage to the no-taxes-for-the-richest mantra – all in the name of something called bipartisanship and ‘shared sacrifice’ and saving the nation.

all just more lies of course.

and as danceswithdevils said – you can be sure that no african-american will ever be elected to the presidency again for a 100 years – provided elections are even faked anymore by then.

It must be wonderful to both be able to be proud of your country and know you live in a real representative democracy .

Kind of like everyone thought they would be screwed when they didn’t bail out their banks, and they ended up doing better than those who did. Kind of “funny” what doing the right thing can bring, don’t you think?

Go to a local credit union. I’m a member of 3. They work harder and cost less. Chase doesn’t charge in this area if you have direct deposit. Look into having your pay directly deposited or your social security directly deposited. I just got a new chase account and so far it’s been working out well for me. I’ve had it for 6 months now and thought I would drop it by now but I’m going to keep it until they start pulling that funny stuff like you’re going through. I just got a letter from Chase that they were discontinuing the fee waver unless the direct deposits were at least $500 each. I called them and asked them if I understood this correctly and they said yes. The agent told me if I made 5 purchases using the visa debit card a month the fee would be waved. I have to wonder how much longer that will be in place. I just opened this account 7 months ago thinking this would be very useful but it looks like I wont have it very long.

Go to a local credit union. I’m a member of 3. They work harder and cost less. Chase doesn’t charge in this area if you have direct deposit. Look into having your pay directly deposited or your social security directly deposited. I just got a new chase account and so far it’s been working out well for me. I’ve had it for 6 months now and thought I would drop it by now but I’m going to keep it until they start pulling that funny stuff like you’re going through. I just got a letter from Chase that they were discontinuing the fee waver unless the direct deposits were at least $500 each. I called them and asked them if I understood this correctly and they said yes. The agent told me if I made 5 purchases using the visa debit card a month the fee would be waved. I have to wonder how much longer that will be in place. I just opened this account 7 months ago thinking this would be very useful but it looks like I wont have it very long.

The banks have committed incitement to credit card fraud with their actions. It’s a shame that people are now going to max out their credit cards and then default en masse, so that the entire system is so overwhelmed no one person can be gone after. And the idea will have been inspired by the banks themselves, which is ironic.

Break the banks.

The banks have committed incitement to credit card fraud with their actions. It’s a shame that people are now going to max out their credit cards and then default en masse, so that the entire system is so overwhelmed no one person can be gone after. And the idea will have been inspired by the banks themselves, which is ironic.

Break the banks.

Thank you for your input. Unfortunately, I can’t do direct deposit since I am a freelance musician. But I will consider credit unions in my search for a reasonable bank. I’m also not ruling out appealing to some vp or someone at Chase because I opened this account in 1983 at a different bank, but I’ve been swallowed up by larger and larger banks over the years, just like the cartoon where fishes are swallowed by a bigger fish in succession.

Thank you for your input. Unfortunately, I can’t do direct deposit since I am a freelance musician. But I will consider credit unions in my search for a reasonable bank. I’m also not ruling out appealing to some vp or someone at Chase because I opened this account in 1983 at a different bank, but I’ve been swallowed up by larger and larger banks over the years, just like the cartoon where fishes are swallowed by a bigger fish in succession.

I love Icelanders. They develop their brains over there and are proud of it.

I love Icelanders. They develop their brains over there and are proud of it.

off the exact topic a bit, but there’s more good news for wikileaks, this time from down under. massive newspaper and news media supports for wikileaks from the australian press, challenging the prime minister’s ridiculous accusations, without charge or proof, that wiki has done something ‘illegal’. I go to this site daily as they have great coverage of daily wiki info http://wlcentral.org/

and the news is at http://wlcentral.org/node/604

2010-12-13: Australian media figures in support of WikiLeaks
STATEMENT FROM AUSTRALIAN NEWSPAPER EDITORS, TELEVISION AND RADIO DIRECTORS AND ONLINE MEDIA EDITORS

….The volume of the leaks is unprecedented, yet the leaking and publication of diplomatic correspondence is not new. We, as editors and news directors of major media organisations, believe the reaction of the US and Australian governments to date has been deeply troubling. We will strongly resist any attempts to make the publication of these or similar documents illegal. Any such action would impact not only on WikiLeaks, but every media organisation in the world that aims to inform the public about decisions made on their behalf. WikiLeaks, just four years old, is part of the media and deserves our support…..

signed by:
Clinton Maynard, news director, 2UE; David Penberthy, editor-in-chief, news.com.au ; Eric Beecher, chairman, Crikey, Smart Company, Business Spectator, The Eureka Report ; Gay Alcorn, editor, The Sunday Age ; Garry Bailey, editor, The Mercury (Hobart) ; Garry Linnell, editor, The Daily Telegraph ; Ian Ferguson, director of news and programs, Sky News Australia/New Zealand ; Jim Carroll, network director of news and public affairs, Ten Network ; Julian Ricci, editor, Northern Territory News ; Kate Torney, director of news, ABC
; Mark Calvert, director of news and current affairs, Nine Network ; Melvin Mansell, editor, The Advertiser (Adelaide) ; Megan Lloyd, editor, Sunday Mail (Adelaide) ; Michael Crutcher, editor, The Courier Mail, ; Mike van Niekerk, editor in chief, Fairfax online ; Paul Cutler, news director, SBS ; Paul Ramadge, editor-in-chief, The Age ; Peter Fray, editor-in-chief, The Sydney Morning Herald ; Peter Meakin, director of news and public affairs, Seven Network ; Rick Feneley, editor, The Sun-Herald ; Rob Curtain, news director, 3AW ; Rod Quinn, editor, The Canberra Times ; Sam Weir, editor, The Sunday Times ; Scott Thompson, The Sunday Mail (Queensland) ; Simon Pristel, editor, Herald Sun ; Tory Maguire, editor, The Punch

off the exact topic a bit, but there’s more good news for wikileaks, this time from down under. massive newspaper and news media supports for wikileaks from the australian press, challenging the prime minister’s ridiculous accusations, without charge or proof, that wiki has done something ‘illegal’. I go to this site daily as they have great coverage of daily wiki info http://wlcentral.org/

and the news is at http://wlcentral.org/node/604

2010-12-13: Australian media figures in support of WikiLeaks
STATEMENT FROM AUSTRALIAN NEWSPAPER EDITORS, TELEVISION AND RADIO DIRECTORS AND ONLINE MEDIA EDITORS

….The volume of the leaks is unprecedented, yet the leaking and publication of diplomatic correspondence is not new. We, as editors and news directors of major media organisations, believe the reaction of the US and Australian governments to date has been deeply troubling. We will strongly resist any attempts to make the publication of these or similar documents illegal. Any such action would impact not only on WikiLeaks, but every media organisation in the world that aims to inform the public about decisions made on their behalf. WikiLeaks, just four years old, is part of the media and deserves our support…..

signed by:
Clinton Maynard, news director, 2UE; David Penberthy, editor-in-chief, news.com.au ; Eric Beecher, chairman, Crikey, Smart Company, Business Spectator, The Eureka Report ; Gay Alcorn, editor, The Sunday Age ; Garry Bailey, editor, The Mercury (Hobart) ; Garry Linnell, editor, The Daily Telegraph ; Ian Ferguson, director of news and programs, Sky News Australia/New Zealand ; Jim Carroll, network director of news and public affairs, Ten Network ; Julian Ricci, editor, Northern Territory News ; Kate Torney, director of news, ABC
; Mark Calvert, director of news and current affairs, Nine Network ; Melvin Mansell, editor, The Advertiser (Adelaide) ; Megan Lloyd, editor, Sunday Mail (Adelaide) ; Michael Crutcher, editor, The Courier Mail, ; Mike van Niekerk, editor in chief, Fairfax online ; Paul Cutler, news director, SBS ; Paul Ramadge, editor-in-chief, The Age ; Peter Fray, editor-in-chief, The Sydney Morning Herald ; Peter Meakin, director of news and public affairs, Seven Network ; Rick Feneley, editor, The Sun-Herald ; Rob Curtain, news director, 3AW ; Rod Quinn, editor, The Canberra Times ; Sam Weir, editor, The Sunday Times ; Scott Thompson, The Sunday Mail (Queensland) ; Simon Pristel, editor, Herald Sun ; Tory Maguire, editor, The Punch

off the exact topic a bit, but there’s more good news for wikileaks, this time from down under. massive newspaper and news media supports for wikileaks from the australian press, challenging the prime minister’s ridiculous accusations, without charge or proof, that wiki has done something ‘illegal’. I go to this site daily as they have great coverage of daily wiki info http://wlcentral.org/

and the news is at http://wlcentral.org/node/604

2010-12-13: Australian media figures in support of WikiLeaks
STATEMENT FROM AUSTRALIAN NEWSPAPER EDITORS, TELEVISION AND RADIO DIRECTORS AND ONLINE MEDIA EDITORS

….The volume of the leaks is unprecedented, yet the leaking and publication of diplomatic correspondence is not new. We, as editors and news directors of major media organisations, believe the reaction of the US and Australian governments to date has been deeply troubling. We will strongly resist any attempts to make the publication of these or similar documents illegal. Any such action would impact not only on WikiLeaks, but every media organisation in the world that aims to inform the public about decisions made on their behalf. WikiLeaks, just four years old, is part of the media and deserves our support…..

signed by:
Clinton Maynard, news director, 2UE; David Penberthy, editor-in-chief, news.com.au ; Eric Beecher, chairman, Crikey, Smart Company, Business Spectator, The Eureka Report ; Gay Alcorn, editor, The Sunday Age ; Garry Bailey, editor, The Mercury (Hobart) ; Garry Linnell, editor, The Daily Telegraph ; Ian Ferguson, director of news and programs, Sky News Australia/New Zealand ; Jim Carroll, network director of news and public affairs, Ten Network ; Julian Ricci, editor, Northern Territory News ; Kate Torney, director of news, ABC
; Mark Calvert, director of news and current affairs, Nine Network ; Melvin Mansell, editor, The Advertiser (Adelaide) ; Megan Lloyd, editor, Sunday Mail (Adelaide) ; Michael Crutcher, editor, The Courier Mail, ; Mike van Niekerk, editor in chief, Fairfax online ; Paul Cutler, news director, SBS ; Paul Ramadge, editor-in-chief, The Age ; Peter Fray, editor-in-chief, The Sydney Morning Herald ; Peter Meakin, director of news and public affairs, Seven Network ; Rick Feneley, editor, The Sun-Herald ; Rob Curtain, news director, 3AW ; Rod Quinn, editor, The Canberra Times ; Sam Weir, editor, The Sunday Times ; Scott Thompson, The Sunday Mail (Queensland) ; Simon Pristel, editor, Herald Sun ; Tory Maguire, editor, The Punch

[...] Iceland may ban MasterCard, Visa over WikiLeaks censorship [...]

in other news, Obama partied it up with the “savvy businessmen” from Wall Street and told his base, once again, to kiss his ass.

And as for congress, well, they are proof that you can have your mouth full and still talk…

I LOVE ICELAND

They refused to bail out the bankers.

The West is run by authoritarian thugs with completely twisted priorities.

Iceland needs to stop whaling though.

Whales have four frontal lobes. VERY intelligent.

Iceland may ban MasterCard, Visa over WikiLeaks censorship…

Credit card companies that prevented card-holders from donating money to the secrets outlet WikiLeaks could have their operating licenses taken away in Iceland, according to members of the Icelandic Parliamentary General Committee….

[...] Islandia estudia revocar las licencias de Visa, Mastercard y otros censores de Wikileaks (eng) http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/mastercard-visa-licenses-revo…  por anxosan hace 2 segundos [...]

[...] » noticia original [...]

Just like Veggie Bob to side with the banksters. Right wingers are such stooges for the corporatists.

Who is siding with banks. I am just pointing out the facts. I am sorry if facts get in the way of your political agenda…after all, you are a liberal,… but that is the way it is. Anyone who has travelled abroad is always keenly aware to the availability of credit card use in a particular country. Especially business travellers. To put it another way, if the United States wanted to really punish Bemuda, for example, it could suspend Amex, Visa and Mastercard privileges in that country. It would destroy thier tourism and bring many business contacts to a halt.

Do you disagree with this?

One other example that seems to run counter-intuitive:
The US has massive debt to China. This is considered to be a bad thing. If China decided to go to war with us, over Korea, for example, what exactly happens to those IOUs? Will this debt make China more or less aggressive toward the US?

One other example that seems to run counter-intuitive:
The US has massive debt to China. This is considered to be a bad thing. If China decided to go to war with us, over Korea, for example, what exactly happens to those IOUs? Will this debt make China more or less aggressive toward the US?

Not to mention that Wikileaks helped them expose bank corruption.

Not to mention that Wikileaks helped them expose bank corruption.

Three lusty cheers for Iceland! Though I agree with Rubiconski that murdering whales is disgusting and evidence of a very low consciousness.

Three lusty cheers for Iceland! Though I agree with Rubiconski that murdering whales is disgusting and evidence of a very low consciousness.

Three lusty cheers for Iceland! Though I agree with Rubiconski that murdering whales is disgusting and evidence of a very low consciousness.

Ahh, so you’ve seen me before
jumped right through an open sore
a true patriot, soldier for sure
eyes closed tight like never before
don’t want to know the truth
it just might set you free
so fight for suppression of liberty
fight for the power, obey your betters
fight to be led with untruthful letters
fight to be pure, the right to be clean
fight for the powers as yet unseen
fight your fellow citizen right into the grave
never even knew your mind was enslaved
A true patriot can share his opinion without
being called a mindless minion
a true patriot will exercise thought
a true patriot will fight not to be brought
a true patriot believes in true freedom
not lies and deceit and the people that breed them
Eyes wide open or you will be tamed
When your freedoms are lost will you feel shame?

Ahh, so you’ve seen me before
jumped right through an open sore
a true patriot, soldier for sure
eyes closed tight like never before
don’t want to know the truth
it just might set you free
so fight for suppression of liberty
fight for the power, obey your betters
fight to be led with untruthful letters
fight to be pure, the right to be clean
fight for the powers as yet unseen
fight your fellow citizen right into the grave
never even knew your mind was enslaved
A true patriot can share his opinion without
being called a mindless minion
a true patriot will exercise thought
a true patriot will fight not to be brought
a true patriot believes in true freedom
not lies and deceit and the people that breed them
Eyes wide open or you will be tamed
When your freedoms are lost will you feel shame?

Ahh, so you’ve seen me before
jumped right through an open sore
a true patriot, soldier for sure
eyes closed tight like never before
don’t want to know the truth
it just might set you free
so fight for suppression of liberty
fight for the power, obey your betters
fight to be led with untruthful letters
fight to be pure, the right to be clean
fight for the powers as yet unseen
fight your fellow citizen right into the grave
never even knew your mind was enslaved
A true patriot can share his opinion without
being called a mindless minion
a true patriot will exercise thought
a true patriot will fight not to be brought
a true patriot believes in true freedom
not lies and deceit and the people that breed them
Eyes wide open or you will be tamed
When your freedoms are lost will you feel shame?

The United States claims that they have not undertaken to shut down Wikileaks or cut off its financing. So why have the major American financial institutions jumped into the fight?

Likewise, those financial powerhouses Mastercard, Visa, paypal and Amazon all claim that their arms were not twisted by the United States government and that their actions were unilateral. America now finds itself at the heart of a Cyberwar undertaken by an army of people determined that the truth will be delivered to the American people.

Why did those financial institutions attempt to shut down Wikileaks and have Mr. Assange jailed on trumped up charges and what will those financial documents reveal when finally released by the Wikileaks organization? One thing you can be sure of, those financial institutions know exactly what they don’t want you and me to know and they seem to be willing to go as far as having the internet shut down to keep their dirty little secrets, whatever they may be.

The internet is too big to shut down. If the internet is censored, then it serves no useful purpose in the Information Age as the lie will rule out over the truth and our so called betters will rule the day and the world.

We should know what is being done in our name. We should want to know what is being done in our name and if the internet is shut down until such time as anyone that uses it agrees to have their documents censored and scanned prior to publication. Then the right to freedom of speech will have taken a mighty blow, one that the American people may well never recover from.

The United States claims that they have not undertaken to shut down Wikileaks or cut off its financing. So why have the major American financial institutions jumped into the fight?

Likewise, those financial powerhouses Mastercard, Visa, paypal and Amazon all claim that their arms were not twisted by the United States government and that their actions were unilateral. America now finds itself at the heart of a Cyberwar undertaken by an army of people determined that the truth will be delivered to the American people.

Why did those financial institutions attempt to shut down Wikileaks and have Mr. Assange jailed on trumped up charges and what will those financial documents reveal when finally released by the Wikileaks organization? One thing you can be sure of, those financial institutions know exactly what they don’t want you and me to know and they seem to be willing to go as far as having the internet shut down to keep their dirty little secrets, whatever they may be.

The internet is too big to shut down. If the internet is censored, then it serves no useful purpose in the Information Age as the lie will rule out over the truth and our so called betters will rule the day and the world.

We should know what is being done in our name. We should want to know what is being done in our name and if the internet is shut down until such time as anyone that uses it agrees to have their documents censored and scanned prior to publication. Then the right to freedom of speech will have taken a mighty blow, one that the American people may well never recover from.

The United States claims that they have not undertaken to shut down Wikileaks or cut off its financing. So why have the major American financial institutions jumped into the fight?

Likewise, those financial powerhouses Mastercard, Visa, paypal and Amazon all claim that their arms were not twisted by the United States government and that their actions were unilateral. America now finds itself at the heart of a Cyberwar undertaken by an army of people determined that the truth will be delivered to the American people.

Why did those financial institutions attempt to shut down Wikileaks and have Mr. Assange jailed on trumped up charges and what will those financial documents reveal when finally released by the Wikileaks organization? One thing you can be sure of, those financial institutions know exactly what they don’t want you and me to know and they seem to be willing to go as far as having the internet shut down to keep their dirty little secrets, whatever they may be.

The internet is too big to shut down. If the internet is censored, then it serves no useful purpose in the Information Age as the lie will rule out over the truth and our so called betters will rule the day and the world.

We should know what is being done in our name. We should want to know what is being done in our name and if the internet is shut down until such time as anyone that uses it agrees to have their documents censored and scanned prior to publication. Then the right to freedom of speech will have taken a mighty blow, one that the American people may well never recover from.

[...] I know developments in the media aren't supposed to have an effect on the all powerful overlordship the courts has on us mere humans, but this story is ironic in it's timing, to say the least. TIME Readers Pick Wikileaks’ Julian Assange As Person Of The Year at Pat Dollard It's worth noting number 3 was Lady Gaga and number 6 was Barak Obama. I'm just going to laugh for a moment to release some of this nervous tension and then reflect on what interesting times I live in. Oh, and Iceland has sided with Anonymous. This just gets more and more out there. Iceland may ban MasterCard, Visa over WikiLeaks censorship | Raw Story [...]

Right on, Iceland.

Right on, Iceland.

Right on, Iceland.

Iceland may ban MasterCard, Visa over WikiLeaks censorship

Iceland may ban MasterCard, Visa over WikiLeaks censorship

Iceland may ban MasterCard, Visa over WikiLeaks censorship

More like, “getting them to care.” For most over here, this is all happening to someone else, and doesn’t apply to our work/television/sleep lives.

More like, “getting them to care.” For most over here, this is all happening to someone else, and doesn’t apply to our work/television/sleep lives.

More like, “getting them to care.” For most over here, this is all happening to someone else, and doesn’t apply to our work/television/sleep lives.

I’m ashamed that the British Police have arrested Wikileaks founder on trumpt up charges. Is there no limit to what the establishment will do to cover their ass and supress us.
All power to Iceland; although what they’re doing to the Whales is shameful.
We should all refuse to purchase anything through Mastercard and Visa; and buy nothing from any company that let themselves be used by governments in this way.
Hit them where it hurts.. In their pockets! Stopping all purchases for just a couple of weeks will cost them Billions World wide….!
We have already refused to take payments from clients wishing to use these cards; and stopped all dealings with Amazon.
Beermatman
http://www.beermatsadvertising.com

I’m ashamed that the British Police have arrested Wikileaks founder on trumpt up charges. Is there no limit to what the establishment will do to cover their ass and supress us.
All power to Iceland; although what they’re doing to the Whales is shameful.
We should all refuse to purchase anything through Mastercard and Visa; and buy nothing from any company that let themselves be used by governments in this way.
Hit them where it hurts.. In their pockets! Stopping all purchases for just a couple of weeks will cost them Billions World wide….!
We have already refused to take payments from clients wishing to use these cards; and stopped all dealings with Amazon.
Beermatman
http://www.beermatsadvertising.com

I’m ashamed that the British Police have arrested Wikileaks founder on trumpt up charges. Is there no limit to what the establishment will do to cover their ass and supress us.
All power to Iceland; although what they’re doing to the Whales is shameful.
We should all refuse to purchase anything through Mastercard and Visa; and buy nothing from any company that let themselves be used by governments in this way.
Hit them where it hurts.. In their pockets! Stopping all purchases for just a couple of weeks will cost them Billions World wide….!
We have already refused to take payments from clients wishing to use these cards; and stopped all dealings with Amazon.
Beermatman
http://www.beermatsadvertising.com

Absolutely. We little people always pay for it all at the end.

Absolutely. We little people always pay for it all at the end.

Absolutely. We little people always pay for it all at the end.

He doesn’t have the balls but he is circumcised

He doesn’t have the balls but he is circumcised

He doesn’t have the balls but he is circumcised

[...] Monday, December 13th, 2010 Article Here: [...]

Has anyone watched this documentary? What’s the deal wth the split by George Schmidt? Is it because of an ego conflict, or is it a deliberate strategy to provide a second outlet for leaked material?

http://svtplay.se/v/2264028/wikirebels_the_documentary

F*CK YEAH! Now thats a country with some balls! The balls may be frozen and covered in volcano ash…but at least they’re huge enough to be seen from orbit! I hope they follow through on this! The message is this: There is nothing wrong with Wikileaks…there is something wrong with the people who are embarrassed by Wikileaks. If someone got caught on video screwing their cat…it isn’t the video cameras fault for recording it, it isn’t the neighbors fault for calling the cops and laughing at you in public…its the fault of the dumbf*ck who stuck his dick in the housepet in the first place. End of story…PERIOD.

Well, would that really be such a loss for MasterCard and VISA? Small country that’s also sort of broke.

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Both Visa and Mastercard are american-owned, right? What about a european alternative, maybe based in Germany (with its strong privacy protection rules) or Iceland which might have similar consumer-friendly legal systems? Telephone support based in Iceland + India (24h availability) and payment by smart chip, for internet payments there could be an integrated solution for “virtual cards”, basically a temporarily assigned card number, just like Visa and Mastercard are offering. On the other hand, I’d also be happy to give my bank all knowledge of my shopping sprees if I in return get automatic “home budgeting”, like the small Finnish bank. Ready-made systems for this exist in Sweden, France etc so it should be easy and quite cheap to just buy up the categorization technology from existing solutions.

Both Visa and Mastercard are american-owned, right? What about a european alternative, maybe based in Germany (with its strong privacy protection rules) or Iceland which might have similar consumer-friendly legal systems? Telephone support based in Iceland + India (24h availability) and payment by smart chip, for internet payments there could be an integrated solution for “virtual cards”, basically a temporarily assigned card number, just like Visa and Mastercard are offering. On the other hand, I’d also be happy to give my bank all knowledge of my shopping sprees if I in return get automatic “home budgeting”, like the small Finnish bank. Ready-made systems for this exist in Sweden, France etc so it should be easy and quite cheap to just buy up the categorization technology from existing solutions.

Both Visa and Mastercard are american-owned, right? What about a european alternative, maybe based in Germany (with its strong privacy protection rules) or Iceland which might have similar consumer-friendly legal systems? Telephone support based in Iceland + India (24h availability) and payment by smart chip, for internet payments there could be an integrated solution for “virtual cards”, basically a temporarily assigned card number, just like Visa and Mastercard are offering. On the other hand, I’d also be happy to give my bank all knowledge of my shopping sprees if I in return get automatic “home budgeting”, like the small Finnish bank. Ready-made systems for this exist in Sweden, France etc so it should be easy and quite cheap to just buy up the categorization technology from existing solutions.

While I don’t share your anarchist libertarian sentiments, I do share a lot of your genes and wish Iceland all the luck in the world in its quest to be the first to seriously address the cancer that’s effecting all nations today.

For others, I’ll mention that the Icelanders are not only addressing the current “leaks” problem but are taking their former Prime Minister to court for the egregious excesses he allowed that led to their banks running wild and bankrupting the country as well as convening a “truly representative” citizens council to consider amending their constitution to prevent such in future – not sure how well the latter will work, but it will surface a lot of “unspoken problems”.

Hint, hint, hint – down the road, those who act to address the obvious problems and correct them (as Iceland) will be standing, and those that don’t (as the U.S.), might well not be.

While I don’t share your anarchist libertarian sentiments, I do share a lot of your genes and wish Iceland all the luck in the world in its quest to be the first to seriously address the cancer that’s effecting all nations today.

For others, I’ll mention that the Icelanders are not only addressing the current “leaks” problem but are taking their former Prime Minister to court for the egregious excesses he allowed that led to their banks running wild and bankrupting the country as well as convening a “truly representative” citizens council to consider amending their constitution to prevent such in future – not sure how well the latter will work, but it will surface a lot of “unspoken problems”.

Hint, hint, hint – down the road, those who act to address the obvious problems and correct them (as Iceland) will be standing, and those that don’t (as the U.S.), might well not be.

While I don’t share your anarchist libertarian sentiments, I do share a lot of your genes and wish Iceland all the luck in the world in its quest to be the first to seriously address the cancer that’s effecting all nations today.

For others, I’ll mention that the Icelanders are not only addressing the current “leaks” problem but are taking their former Prime Minister to court for the egregious excesses he allowed that led to their banks running wild and bankrupting the country as well as convening a “truly representative” citizens council to consider amending their constitution to prevent such in future – not sure how well the latter will work, but it will surface a lot of “unspoken problems”.

Hint, hint, hint – down the road, those who act to address the obvious problems and correct them (as Iceland) will be standing, and those that don’t (as the U.S.), might well not be.

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Me parece genial la postura de Islandia.Eso quiere decir que hay alguien que aun mantiene su personalidad y no se deja intimidar por esos asesinos de indios. No a la censura

small country with convictions, which you don’t seem you have much of.

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I have news for you Rob, there is almost no tourism in Iceland……they couldn’t care less about tourism.

When was the last time you traveled abroad?

I have news for you Rob, there is almost no tourism in Iceland……they couldn’t care less about tourism.

When was the last time you traveled abroad?

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Actually, Their is a large tourism industry in Iceland. We have nearly Twice the population of Iceland in the summer during the tourism season.
ALOT of the money that we make into the country, And the big helper to get out of the bank crash was the tourist money. This provides many jobs during the summer.

You are right! You are clairvoyant! It has been some time, now. November 19-26, 2010, Eastern Europe. By the way, you are in the 0 for 2 category, Tourism accounts for 4.5% of Iceland’s GDP! http://www.icelandexport.is/english/industry_sectors_in_iceland/travel_and_tourism_in_iceland/

You are right! You are clairvoyant! It has been some time, now. November 19-26, 2010, Eastern Europe. By the way, you are in the 0 for 2 category, Tourism accounts for 4.5% of Iceland’s GDP! http://www.icelandexport.is/english/industry_sectors_in_iceland/travel_and_tourism_in_iceland/

Way to go, now when this happens if everyone would NOT make a payment we coul watch these Nazi,Racist,Facist cave-in wow that would be wonderful. Please,Please,Please ban the Credit card companies, this is being pushed by the Nazi<Racist,Facist American bankstars trying to intimidate the EU. Go for it PLEASE.

Way to go, now when this happens if everyone would NOT make a payment we coul watch these Nazi,Racist,Facist cave-in wow that would be wonderful. Please,Please,Please ban the Credit card companies, this is being pushed by the Nazi<Racist,Facist American bankstars trying to intimidate the EU. Go for it PLEASE.

Most tourists come from neighboring countries or Baltic states. Yanks Euros and Brits don’t go there.

Iceland is throwing bankers in jail, holding a referendum on a new constitution, making the entire country a free speech zone, and now taking the fight outside with this act of “universal jurisdiction”….I’m loving it! Iceland is making millions of fans around the world and is the type of model most people believe in, but are unable to get because of the entrenchment of a pre-existing corrupt system that has successfully mascaraed-ed as a democracy for the last several generations. With this model now appearing on the scene to excite people…look for those in power to end the experiment before it catches on. Iceland needs to go online in addition to being a country…and they should actively recruit netizens (citizens) a build democratic institutions online and build a truly free web. What Hong Kong and Singapore are to shipping and what London and New York are to banking is what Iceland could become to free speech, democratic institutions, representation, governance, free media, etc This tiny little country could indeed become a big player in world affairs just like its evil cousins, New York and London. The entire economy can make a come back and then a hell of a lot more with the approach they’re going with. This could get truly unsettling for a lot of THEM

Iceland is throwing bankers in jail, holding a referendum on a new constitution, making the entire country a free speech zone, and now taking the fight outside with this act of “universal jurisdiction”….I’m loving it! Iceland is making millions of fans around the world and is the type of model most people believe in, but are unable to get because of the entrenchment of a pre-existing corrupt system that has successfully mascaraed-ed as a democracy for the last several generations. With this model now appearing on the scene to excite people…look for those in power to end the experiment before it catches on. Iceland needs to go online in addition to being a country…and they should actively recruit netizens (citizens) a build democratic institutions online and build a truly free web. What Hong Kong and Singapore are to shipping and what London and New York are to banking is what Iceland could become to free speech, democratic institutions, representation, governance, free media, etc This tiny little country could indeed become a big player in world affairs just like its evil cousins, New York and London. The entire economy can make a come back and then a hell of a lot more with the approach they’re going with. This could get truly unsettling for a lot of THEM

But who visit Iceland?, Mostly Swedes, Nords, Finds, or people from the Baltic states.

Talar du svenska ?

Yes it is a small country, but it is the point they are trying to making that is the important thing…

Yes it is a small country, but it is the point they are trying to making that is the important thing…

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Bravo Iceland. If you were warmer I would move to your country, but then you might melt, if you were warmer.

I refuse to own credit cards. I cut mine up in the nineties when I thought their interest rates were outrageous. I live within my means.

I refuse to own credit cards. I cut mine up in the nineties when I thought their interest rates were outrageous. I live within my means.

Like most corporations MasterCard is “American multi-national.” Visa is “California based it’s international.”

Not sure what the difference is.

It’s still standing up to the bullies. God Bless Iceland.

Look again! Iceland’s is about the only economy on the planet doing really well right now. They are reporting Real growth numbers in the private economy – not the crap that’s spewed by Europe and the US, tainted as it is by massive ‘government’ injections. All it took was saying “No” to the thieving bankers.

Has it never occurred to anyone that this might have kept Assange from being taken to the US?

Maybe by accident, but thanks to Sweden, who according to their police report will not accuse Assange of rape, but must follow through on the actual “crime” he committed.

If you read the time line of what happened, it’s very suspicious:

http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/12/13/rundle-timeline-of-assanges-visit-to-sweden-and-events-that-followed/

I had a better article before but can’t seem to find it.

Has it never occurred to anyone that this might have kept Assange from being taken to the US?

Maybe by accident, but thanks to Sweden, who according to their police report will not accuse Assange of rape, but must follow through on the actual “crime” he committed.

If you read the time line of what happened, it’s very suspicious:

http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/12/13/rundle-timeline-of-assanges-visit-to-sweden-and-events-that-followed/

I had a better article before but can’t seem to find it.

Has it never occurred to anyone that this might have kept Assange from being taken to the US?

Maybe by accident, but thanks to Sweden, who according to their police report will not accuse Assange of rape, but must follow through on the actual “crime” he committed.

If you read the time line of what happened, it’s very suspicious:

http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/12/13/rundle-timeline-of-assanges-visit-to-sweden-and-events-that-followed/

I had a better article before but can’t seem to find it.

Has it never occurred to anyone that this might have kept Assange from being taken to the US?

Maybe by accident, but thanks to Sweden, who according to their police report will not accuse Assange of rape, but must follow through on the actual “crime” he committed.

If you read the time line of what happened, it’s very suspicious:

http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/12/13/rundle-timeline-of-assanges-visit-to-sweden-and-events-that-followed/

I had a better article before but can’t seem to find it.

You do know that Corporations own most of our government don’t you?

You do know that Corporations own most of our government don’t you?

You do know that Corporations own most of our government don’t you?

You do know that Corporations own most of our government don’t you?

You do know that Corporations own most of our government don’t you?

Which means we have to push harder for green energy that ‘s affordable.

And your source is……

Better yet chop up your credit cards and learn to live within your means.

Not easy, but it can be done.

Maybe he should consider moving to Iceland where he might be very welcomed.

Naturally not based on any fact.

Name your source. All I’ve read is that he was considering. The president wanted to know if it was Constitutionally legal.

Next vacation, why not visit Iceland. See the sights. Avoid the crowds. Don’t forget your long underwear.

It may be a start of something great.

If other governments don’t follow, maybe many people all over the world might.

Maybe neutered?

That is supposed to be “illegal” per the terms of the contract. I find it interesting that they are doing this…. and getting away with it. I was threatened with loss of service if I persisted in doing that in my business. Maybe they have… a more convincing argument. LOL

Because most of those crooks own our government.

That’s because the majority of Americans allow this to happen. If we ever got organized we would be a great threat to them.

Most of us are also too lazy, or too indifferent, or too stupid and allow this to happen.

My cards were been chopped up for many years ago.

More like they told the government to go after Assange because he’s going to embarrass them, possibly destroy them

That’s what I do and I’m still surviving.

Unfortunately the gop, some blue dogs and lieberman have learned how to use our Constitution for their own gain.

BTW you have a major problem with bigotry

There are times when we do agree. Open checking and saving accounts at local Credit Unions and local banks.

Putting your savings into your local credit unions. They won’t nickle and dime you to the poor house.

Don’t try to reason with someone who is unreasonable. You don’t have to have direct deposit with many credit unions.

It can’t hurt to investigate.

Don’t try to reason with someone who is unreasonable. You don’t have to have direct deposit with many credit unions.

It can’t hurt to investigate.

No nothing like that.

I can take it or leave it…

More Research needed perhaps

http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/opinion/2010/12/201012973441995283.html

No nothing like that.

I can take it or leave it…

More Research needed perhaps

http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/opinion/2010/12/201012973441995283.html

No nothing like that.

I can take it or leave it…

More Research needed perhaps

http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/opinion/2010/12/201012973441995283.html

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It may take time, but all fads start with a handful of people taking a chance. If it improves ones life it stops being a fad and a way of life.

It can be done.

It may take time, but all fads start with a handful of people taking a chance. If it improves ones life it stops being a fad and a way of life.

It can be done.

It may take time, but all fads start with a handful of people taking a chance. If it improves ones life it stops being a fad and a way of life.

It can be done.

Not too many places like that anymore. Just get the information out there and they will go for it.

Not too many places like that anymore. Just get the information out there and they will go for it.

Not too many places like that anymore. Just get the information out there and they will go for it.

In a round about way it reads as…

Grow up.

In a round about way it reads as…

Grow up.

In a round about way it reads as…

Grow up.

Imagine if the majority of our forefathers had attitude.

Imagine if the majority of our forefathers had attitude.

So next time you want to travel, why not see Iceland. No huge crowds (for now) but you might enjoy being there meeting the people and seeing the sights.

Do they ski there?

So next time you want to travel, why not see Iceland. No huge crowds (for now) but you might enjoy being there meeting the people and seeing the sights.

Do they ski there?

So next time you want to travel, why not see Iceland. No huge crowds (for now) but you might enjoy being there meeting the people and seeing the sights.

Do they ski there?

When I was in my late teens I saw on the news every evening how the cops put fire hoses to the people who wanted equal rights for blacks. How the police had their dogs attack people who were being peaceful in their protest against restaurants and stores and buses because these people wanted African Americans to be able to sit down and eat in the restaurants, shop in the stores, use public rest rooms and drinking fountains.

Many in my generations (baby boomers) were horrified and demanded equal rights for all. Some died when they joined in on those protests in the south.

More likely they put pressure on the government.

Actually, Pay Pal actively blocks accounts that promote hate and other things, so Jeff Javis at Huffpo is huffing and puffing smoke out of his ass when he says “I can use Visa and Mastercard to pay for [....] the Ku Klux Klan”. Just sayin’.

Actually, Pay Pal actively blocks accounts that promote hate and other things, so Jeff Javis at Huffpo is huffing and puffing smoke out of his ass when he says “I can use Visa and Mastercard to pay for [....] the Ku Klux Klan”. Just sayin’.

Hmm checks might become popular again, as well as local banks and credit cards.

Yeah the big greedy pasty white guys really thought about that one didn’t they?

Totally. And well said. Don’t keep pumping money into the international cartel. Find a local business man you can trust and deal with them. Even a local banker can hook you up with all the frills you need/want.

Lyris, you and I scrape off the hate other people piled on our back, we’re not so far apart.

Far as I am concerned it matters less who made us. More important is what we are made of.

sorry dearie, which facts are you lacking?

ah, you must reside within the usa, poor information starved tool. what’s on yer tee vee now?

i see you are still in the usa! number one! usa! number one! crowd … regardless of the fact you haven’t even been in the top 10 in any single measure of the good life for decades now … your exceptionalism propaganda is so pervasive you are incapable of being witness to your own decline … sad really.

i see you are still in the usa! number one! usa! number one! crowd … regardless of the fact you haven’t even been in the top 10 in any single measure of the good life for decades now … your exceptionalism propaganda is so pervasive you are incapable of being witness to your own decline … sad really.

reading comprehension much?

reading comprehension much?

reading comprehension much?

reading comprehension much?

Don’t throw us all under the bus…some here in the US see whats going on around us. I voted for Mr.Obama and regret every moment I spent hoping this man might actually be different than other politicians…just goes to show you “be more wary of those with a silver tongue”.

My country is so oblivious to the crime happening around them as crimes committed in the past have been brought to their attention and their reaction is to turn a blind eye and applaud the destruction of our freedoms in the name of security?

I seriously doubt the ability to bounce back from how deep in the hole we HAVE DUG OURSELVES. Countries like Iceland give me hope, real hope that there are still some good people out there fighting against this corporation that has become our government.

Don’t throw us all under the bus…some here in the US see whats going on around us. I voted for Mr.Obama and regret every moment I spent hoping this man might actually be different than other politicians…just goes to show you “be more wary of those with a silver tongue”.

My country is so oblivious to the crime happening around them as crimes committed in the past have been brought to their attention and their reaction is to turn a blind eye and applaud the destruction of our freedoms in the name of security?

I seriously doubt the ability to bounce back from how deep in the hole we HAVE DUG OURSELVES. Countries like Iceland give me hope, real hope that there are still some good people out there fighting against this corporation that has become our government.

May be it’s a tactical move on their part. They did need to reevaluate their approach.

The whole argument that Wikileaks needs to be more transparent is ludicrous. By nature of the work they do, they cannot be transparent. Transparency for Wikileaks means outing their informants.

Otherwise, the public at large is responsible for verifying what they put out and act on it. It’s time we got off our collective arses people!

May be it’s a tactical move on their part. They did need to reevaluate their approach.

The whole argument that Wikileaks needs to be more transparent is ludicrous. By nature of the work they do, they cannot be transparent. Transparency for Wikileaks means outing their informants.

Otherwise, the public at large is responsible for verifying what they put out and act on it. It’s time we got off our collective arses people!

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sorry, we, all of us, tend to use broad brushes … as an american who has lived overseas some 30 years during most of this period of destruction (although it began in the 60s – and more secrecy), i have been scorned and abused and shouted down. i remember visiting an international type bar in an asian capital after 9/11 and this very large party of american banker/wanker types walked in with the leader of the pack literally yelling, “thank gawd, george w. bush got elected” … which of course he wasn’t and later he got his war and saddam’s pistols (i’d say pretty pricey pistolas). then the seething vitriol when i said obama couldn’t be trusted before the election (i paid attention to his f.i.s.a. flip-flop tap dance for wall street approval of his candidacy).

it’s all a set-up folks and george carlin said it best in his “american dream” rant. watch one of the long versions on youtube … it’ll make you cry …

ps. go visit michael moore dot com today – gives one hope that patriots are catching on!

well crafted …

They are brilliant folks and are not in it for personal glory. Agree that this is a tactical move, and that the two “rival” groups will complement each other. We’ll see how it all plays out.

“…What Hong Kong and Singapore are to shipping and what London and New York are to banking is what Iceland could become to free speech, democratic institutions, representation, governance, free media, etc…”
very good point. and important too. we never know in current events/history when one small action which is seemingly insignificant or of minor significance will present itself and the suddenly everything will crystalize around it and it will be the catalyst for a profound or larger change.
Howard Zinn was always making this point, pointing out the significance of ‘small’ individual actions which sometimes became or sparked social movements in civil rights or women’s or labor or ecological or gay rights….etc…

Greetings from Greece. WE ARE ALL ICELANDERS NOW.

I hope Iceland DOES ban these incredibly expensive, useless credit Cards.
It will make them the laughing stock of the 21st century.

We will begin a blog campaign to BOYCOTT Visa and MasterCard in Greece.

Greetings from Greece. WE ARE ALL ICELANDERS NOW.

I hope Iceland DOES ban these incredibly expensive, useless credit Cards.
It will make them the laughing stock of the 21st century.

We will begin a blog campaign to BOYCOTT Visa and MasterCard in Greece.

All respect to Iceland! Home of the original yankees

Let us wage a Peaceful Revolution and see that this kind of fascist suppression of WikiLeaks and the attempted silencing of its Founder Julien Assange. It is led by the fascist U.S. government is part of the reason why we need fundamental systemic transformation here and throughout the world. We can help in this endeavor by raising consciousness, linking up with other peoples and being truthtellers in our own personal lives.

So, they fear that allowing Wikileaks to get donations through Visa, Mastercard and Paypal can “damage their brand image”?

Yeah, right. Let’s see some stuff that Visa, Mastercard and Paypal accept:

1. Neonazis fund their forums with donations they get through Paypal – and I’m talking about downright criminals who issue death warrants on people they dislike.

2. Visa and Mastercard, along with other credit cards, are used by sick bastards to pay for subscriptions to child pornography websites.

3. Owners of child pornography websites get paid through Visa and Mastercard.

How’s this for damage to the brand name? Oh, I forgot… Neonazis are actually lapdogs of the political system, so they are quite harmless to the elite. And child pornography does not reveal stuff the corrupt governments don’t want us to know, right? After all, Dyncorp itself (as has been revealed in the Cablegate thing) has been providing military contractors working for the US in the Middle East with “dancing boys” (a euphemism for child prostitutes) – and all this with the US government knowing what was happening, but hey, they’re fightin’ terrorists out there, so they deserve some recreation, so what the hell, kids are expendable anyway and they’re only good for the two pleasure holes they’ve got on’em… Right, Mr. Barack Obama? Obama knows that his military contractors have a voracious appetite for underage flesh, but he willingly turns a blind eye to the child prostitution ring that is Dyncorp, because he… wants to get the job done. And if some tens, hundreds or thousands of children become trafficking victims, so be it.

So, there you have it: Wikileaks is “illegal” and “harmful”, but the child prostitution ring that is Dyncorp is A-OK. And yes, you can use Visa and Mastercard and Paypal to fund Ku Klux Klan, homophobic bigots and the worst neonazi forums and websites one can think of.

Yeah, right. Like they blocked tzitziloni at gmail dot com, which is used by the neonazi scumbags of webwar3 dot gr… Check your facts and quit being a meatpuppet.

Except jail in Iceland is pretty much like a hotel… So really, there’s not that much punishment going on. I think everyone has a bit too high of an opinion of Iceland haha We’re not as awesome as you guys seem to think.

Not to mention that Iceland is very good at talking the talk… walking the walk is a different matter. I’d be so very surprised if they actually went through with this. They’d be screwing a lot of people over, including me haha

[...] But none of them, thank God, accept donations for WikiLeaks. [...]

Ohh yep! Go Iceland!

Ohh yep! Go Iceland!

A few years ago I was making a website much like wikileaks, but with a slightly different concept. The idea was more like an unauthorized facebook for high profile people in all countries. It is divided into categories, i.e. journalist, armed forces, businessperson, bureaucrat, politician, etc Every user can add people to the database…so supposing your local policeman in Bombay is corrupt and has been harassing ordinary citizens on the road, anybody could catch him on camera and upload the video to his profile on the database. When you read an article about that person, you can add it to their profile. If you find out some details…add it to the profile. Over time, all high profile people will have their profiles on this site and it could include all kinds of very embarrassing stuff from video of the high profile person breaking the law, to acting like a complete prick with the public, to details of financial mis-dealings and associations with other shady people and organizations.

The problem with ideas like this is that the people behind them will always fear the consequences of their government finding out who was behind it…they will trace activity on the site, the ownership details, server info, etc and the next thing you know you’ve got big brother breaking down your door. Although Netsol allows you to hide ownership details of domains, they will provide this info to any government agency in a heart beat if they ask for it. With Iceland now quickly becoming the world’s free speech/democracy hub, it is foreseeable that internet entrepreneurs will see this opportunity and set up shop there. Then people with ideas that can upset the establishment will be able to execute on their plans without fear of persecution. I would like to see law firms in Iceland that provide custodial services to hide ownership details of organizations, website and such so their clients can then go ahead and actually participate in the democratic process without fear of all the dirty tricks our “democratic leaders” are accustomed to pulling. As soon as this starts to happen and the costs of these services become affordable to the masses, I can foresee a brave new world in which the ordinary person has access to resources that have historically only been available to the elite….media, anonymity, the ability to instill fear in high profile people, ability to organize and reach all kinds of people, etc With this kind of infrastructure available to the ordinary person, we could soon see a new age in which people’s creativity will be seen in many more areas of importance, especially politics and governance.

A few years ago I was making a website much like wikileaks, but with a slightly different concept. The idea was more like an unauthorized facebook for high profile people in all countries. It is divided into categories, i.e. journalist, armed forces, businessperson, bureaucrat, politician, etc Every user can add people to the database…so supposing your local policeman in Bombay is corrupt and has been harassing ordinary citizens on the road, anybody could catch him on camera and upload the video to his profile on the database. When you read an article about that person, you can add it to their profile. If you find out some details…add it to the profile. Over time, all high profile people will have their profiles on this site and it could include all kinds of very embarrassing stuff from video of the high profile person breaking the law, to acting like a complete prick with the public, to details of financial mis-dealings and associations with other shady people and organizations.

The problem with ideas like this is that the people behind them will always fear the consequences of their government finding out who was behind it…they will trace activity on the site, the ownership details, server info, etc and the next thing you know you’ve got big brother breaking down your door. Although Netsol allows you to hide ownership details of domains, they will provide this info to any government agency in a heart beat if they ask for it. With Iceland now quickly becoming the world’s free speech/democracy hub, it is foreseeable that internet entrepreneurs will see this opportunity and set up shop there. Then people with ideas that can upset the establishment will be able to execute on their plans without fear of persecution. I would like to see law firms in Iceland that provide custodial services to hide ownership details of organizations, website and such so their clients can then go ahead and actually participate in the democratic process without fear of all the dirty tricks our “democratic leaders” are accustomed to pulling. As soon as this starts to happen and the costs of these services become affordable to the masses, I can foresee a brave new world in which the ordinary person has access to resources that have historically only been available to the elite….media, anonymity, the ability to instill fear in high profile people, ability to organize and reach all kinds of people, etc With this kind of infrastructure available to the ordinary person, we could soon see a new age in which people’s creativity will be seen in many more areas of importance, especially politics and governance.

I thought the members of all governments around the globe were corrupt and only concerned about lining their own pockets, usually at the expense of the American people. This is a pleasant surprise!

I thought the members of all governments around the globe were corrupt and only concerned about lining their own pockets, usually at the expense of the American people. This is a pleasant surprise!

I thought the members of all governments around the globe were corrupt and only concerned about lining their own pockets, usually at the expense of the American people. This is a pleasant surprise!

Greetings and respect to the Icelanders for taking this stance and being on the righteous side. Every Govt should learn from you Sir, how not to be a puppet in the hands the US govt.

Greetings and respect to the Icelanders for taking this stance and being on the righteous side. Every Govt should learn from you Sir, how not to be a puppet in the hands the US govt.

Greetings and respect to the Icelanders for taking this stance and being on the righteous side. Every Govt should learn from you Sir, how not to be a puppet in the hands the US govt.

[...] kringhändelser som är intressanta att notera är att Island, där Wikileaks nu har sin bas, tycks upprörda över att Visa och Mastercard stoppat transa…. En process mot kortföretagen är nu på uppseglande, med tänkbart scenario att de inte längre [...]

They have received money recently from the Sweden, Denmark and Norway thought. Sweden has handled the economic crisis quite well also, without slaughtering the banks and the exchange rate. But I agree with you, it’s good that they’re saying no to the the thieving bankers.

They have received money recently from the Sweden, Denmark and Norway thought. Sweden has handled the economic crisis quite well also, without slaughtering the banks and the exchange rate. But I agree with you, it’s good that they’re saying no to the the thieving bankers.

They have received money recently from the Sweden, Denmark and Norway thought. Sweden has handled the economic crisis quite well also, without slaughtering the banks and the exchange rate. But I agree with you, it’s good that they’re saying no to the the thieving bankers.

Congratulations to Iceland. What are they like on Immigration? I may go and live there.

Congratulations to Iceland. What are they like on Immigration? I may go and live there.

Congratulations to Iceland. What are they like on Immigration? I may go and live there.

go iceland

go iceland

[...] Iceland may ban MasterCard, Visa over WikiLeaks censorship [...]

Totalitarianism all over again.fuck MasterCard and Visa

[...] ..Unlike the US media which is downright vicious when it comes to the truth or reporting important life and death news, others are heeding Assange’s call to arms.  One interesting nation doing this is one that defied the IMF and I am so proud of this:  Iceland may ban MasterCard, Visa over WikiLeaks censorship | Raw Story [...]

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Oh. If they do I think we may have found ourselves a free country! I do doubt it though. The US state department is the master of most EU countries.

Oh. If they do I think we may have found ourselves a free country! I do doubt it though. The US state department is the master of most EU countries.

Oh. If they do I think we may have found ourselves a free country! I do doubt it though. The US state department is the master of most EU countries.

Oh. If they do I think we may have found ourselves a free country! I do doubt it though. The US state department is the master of most EU countries.

[...] expected are the consequences Visa and Mastercard are facing in Iceland, where the credit card companies may have their licenses for doing business revoked on grounds of [...]

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Luckily, Iceland is not member of the EU..yet

Luckily, Iceland is not member of the EU..yet

Hi all, I’m from Iceland and I can tell you things haven’t been great for us the last 2 years, but they are starting to turn around now.

The banks failed and the real economy went with them down into the sea in 2008.

We had a revolution, and overthrew our government.

The British and the Deutch are trying to bully us to take a huge loan to cover the losses to Deutch and British people that lost money in the Icelandic PRIVATE banks. But the Icelandic people stood up and out president vetoed the deal. The people voted and said they will not pay the losses for the PRIVATE banks.

Then we got the volcano that spewed lava and fire in out face, but we didn’t cave in.

We have nothing left to lose any more. When you have nothing left to lose the only thing you can do is fight back and thats what we are doing. People here are supporting huge changes in social structure and cleaning everything out that has failed in or society.

We put up new information and freedom of speech law, so that we will never have the same corruption in out governmental system.

And 2 weeks ago we voted to start rewriting out constitution, where I think all natural resources in Iceland will be give back to the people of Icelandic because corrupt government gave it away to their friends and family.

And now the government is acting on Visa and Mastercard for stopping service to Wikileaks.

I hope this goes through and the new government has the balls to throw these companies out because the Icelandic people will not be bullied and don’t tolerate to see others being bullied.

Hi all, I’m from Iceland and I can tell you things haven’t been great for us the last 2 years, but they are starting to turn around now.

The banks failed and the real economy went with them down into the sea in 2008.

We had a revolution, and overthrew our government.

The British and the Deutch are trying to bully us to take a huge loan to cover the losses to Deutch and British people that lost money in the Icelandic PRIVATE banks. But the Icelandic people stood up and out president vetoed the deal. The people voted and said they will not pay the losses for the PRIVATE banks.

Then we got the volcano that spewed lava and fire in out face, but we didn’t cave in.

We have nothing left to lose any more. When you have nothing left to lose the only thing you can do is fight back and thats what we are doing. People here are supporting huge changes in social structure and cleaning everything out that has failed in or society.

We put up new information and freedom of speech law, so that we will never have the same corruption in out governmental system.

And 2 weeks ago we voted to start rewriting out constitution, where I think all natural resources in Iceland will be give back to the people of Icelandic because corrupt government gave it away to their friends and family.

And now the government is acting on Visa and Mastercard for stopping service to Wikileaks.

I hope this goes through and the new government has the balls to throw these companies out because the Icelandic people will not be bullied and don’t tolerate to see others being bullied.

@david: “The US state department is the master of most EU countries.” so right guy. But thats only the top of the iceberg. When did you last walked through your city? Look at all companies arround.
Best way to protest against the U.S. imperialism is not to carry your money to US Companies. ;-)

@david: “The US state department is the master of most EU countries.” so right guy. But thats only the top of the iceberg. When did you last walked through your city? Look at all companies arround.
Best way to protest against the U.S. imperialism is not to carry your money to US Companies. ;-)

Go. Iceland.

There is nothing else I can say about this. Wait, no. One more thing:
Go Wikileaks!

Go. Iceland.

There is nothing else I can say about this. Wait, no. One more thing:
Go Wikileaks!

[...] Iceland may ban Mastercard, Visa over WikiLeaks censorship [...]

You mean at last an actual state is going to stand up to this ‘financial’ blackmail?
Go for it Iceland!

You mean at last an actual state is going to stand up to this ‘financial’ blackmail?
Go for it Iceland!

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