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60% sounds like a majority unless 40% are conservatives. It costs a lot of money to kill people and that alone should prompt us to get out but it won’t. England,Russia,and now the US, no matter how many boxes of lentil soup we put on the ground it didn’t accomplish anything but the death of too many. Haliburton’s rich ,rich enough to bail out Cheney,GW’s free,Rumsfeld is G-d knows where,and the dollar is in the tank. MERRY CHRISTMAS

Didn’t I warn people not to hang with that bunch? That they are on the subversives list?
Code pink is considered subversive at least. Anyone who hangs amongst them might find themselves under COINTELPRO, it’s not worth the experience.

At last! A news story making me proud to be an American! Veterans for Peace rock.

The congress should investigate, if Bush had a special interest of the invasion of Afghanistan. Actually he did, to help his special frineds. He should be brought to justice. BUT I KNOW IT WON’T, YOU HAVE TO VBE A PATRIOT TO DO SO, AND CONGRESS DOES NOT HAVE ONE!

Strange, there is no mention of this story on any of the corporate news sites. CNN, MSNBC, FOX, ABC, etc… as of 5:30 EST. Again, I am disgusted.

It’s grass-roots activism that’ll turn the tide of the war-mongers in America!

“You can get anything you want at Alice’s Restaurant!”

It’s grass-roots activism that’ll turn the tide of the war-mongers in America!

“You can get anything you want at Alice’s Restaurant!”

It’s grass-roots activism that’ll turn the tide of the war-mongers in America!

“You can get anything you want at Alice’s Restaurant!”

HufPo just picked it up

HufPo just picked it up

HufPo just picked it up

I called CNN and they have a print story, but nothing on the TV side. I guess the corporate suits want endless war…as long as their kids don’t have to serve!

The Revolution Will Not Be Televised

You won’t see it on the tube unless Beck draws a line between Daniel Ellsberg and George Soros.

I wonder if it would be possible to march in front of the media organizations that refuse to report on events such as these, perhaps with a symbolic tape across mouths, a silent march such as the Mothers of May held for years carrying, for example signs of the three monkeys, with “Hear no Truth, See no Truth, Speak no Truth.”
This blackout of events is now so pronounced as to be censorship in a macabre disguise that would render us deaf, dumb and blind.

The Democrats are warmongering zionist scum!

Stop voting for them or giving them any support whatsoever.

They are part of the problem not the solution!

STAND FOR PEACE NOW!

Sadly, Obama seems no different from Bush.

135?

ROTFLMAO!!!!

So Goddamn LAME.

Where were the rest of you Good Germans?

“Vee did not know they were exterminating Iraqis in Der Hoschpital Beds and Bloving Avay der family peekneeks. Vee are jist tryink to feed the yaps of our Amerikan Spawns.”

So you are saying vote Nazi?

That would be impressive. All roads leading to Soros and all.

Correct. And Obama has increased some of the neocon madmen schemes, after all he campaigned for that, but Dumbya/Cheney did much more in their 8 years of tyranny. Obama will only get 4 years, of blunders and tyranny and then we’ll have some real lunatic like Palin to finish off America for good. Pretty sad.

The United States House of Representatives unanimously on Thursday approved a resolution opposing unilateral declaration of Palestinian state.

The resolution calls on the U.S. administration to “deny recognition to any unilaterally declared Palestinian state and veto any resolution by the United Nations Security Council to establish or recognize a Palestinian state outside of an agreement negotiated by the two parties.”

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/u-s-house-opposes-unilateral-declaration-of-palestinian-state-1.330922

The resolution introduced by Rep. Howard Berman, a jewish israel-firster who should be hung for treason along with every member of congress.

In the end, you’ll be considered a “subversive”, too, whether or not you man up and stand for what’s right.

You may think you’re staying out of the cross-hairs by wagging your finger at those who openly oppose the government. But the establishment will find reason to persecute you, too… unless the “subversives” win.

That’s just how tyranny works.

tending to subvert or advocating subversion, esp. in an attempt to overthrow or cause the destruction of an established or legally constituted government.

Too bad there weren’t 135,000 or 1.35 million. I wish I had know about it or I would have tried to attend.

Ambassador Richard Holbrooke’s dying words were clear enough. The President and neocon Military Industrial Komplex, which are profiting off this war and the others they keep ginning up in Yemen and elsewhere, don’t care. No Osama bin Laden, no Taliban, it’s all just a colossal waste of life and money. And the vast majority of Americans, Afghans, Iraqis, etc., are not getting anything but shafted.

“You’ve got to stop this war in Afghanistan.” – Richard Holbrooke

It’s as clear and simple as death itself.

You learned to protest in the snow so you could hide you face from your cell phone tick tick tick people.

Oh if only we could stop buying string to fly our kites long enough to go buy ropes with which to hang ourselves!

Oh, if only, if only, if only.

Excuse us if we “Go Boehner” while we weep for The Lost America.

The basic problem is every politician is running scared the next released document might just expose the next bathroom footsie player, and it just might be them. So they’re attacking anything that remotely suggests civil disobedience of any kind.

It’ll take a major bag of popcorn to get through this matinee.

The basic problem is every politician is running scared the next released document might just expose the next bathroom footsie player, and it just might be them. So they’re attacking anything that remotely suggests civil disobedience of any kind.

It’ll take a major bag of popcorn to get through this matinee.

Obama’s report calls it “Progress”. If this is progress, how does Mr. Obama define FAILURE? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-naiman/afghanistan-review-shows_b_797729.html

The American people do not want this war. While hard working Americans are getting kicked out of their homes and living on the streets due to job losses and foreclosures, our Government is spending $120BIL a year for the war in Afghanistan.

Despite these huge costs, the situation on the ground is much worse than it was a year ago because the Taliban insurgency has made progress across the country. It is now very difficult to work outside the cities or even move around Afghanistan by road. The insurgents have built momentum, exploiting the shortcomings of the Afghan government and the mistakes of the coalition. The Taliban has become a national movement with a serious presence in the north and west. Foreign bases are completely isolated from their local environment and unable to protect the population. We’ve been in Afghanistan longer than the Soviet Red Army. Look at what that war did to the Soviets! How much more funny money will we print before we realize that we simply can not sustain this war? It is not economically feasible.

Our Soldiers are being medicated like never before: since 2001, 73,103 prescriptions for Zoloft have been dispensed, 38,199 for Prozac, 17,830 for Paxil and 12,047 for Cymbalta, according to Tricare 2009 data. All of the drugs carry a suicide warning label. In 2009 there were 160 active duty suicides, 239 suicides within the total Army including the Reserves, 146 active duty deaths from drug overdoses and high risk behavior and 1,713 suicide attempts. In addition to suicide, other out-of-character behavior like domestic violence is known to erupt from the drugs. http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=22267

We are sacrificing an entire generation for the benefit of the few who are in charge and have much to profit from all the destruction. War is not cheap. Take for example the much talked about drones: every Predator drone in use in Afghanistan costs taxpayers $4.5 million and a third of them crash. It costs $1,000,000 per soldier to support the war. Just think of all the jobs we could create with that money! Think of how robust our economy would be if we didn’t feed this death machine!

There is a strong anti war movement in our country right now. I think our Leaders should listen…

December Review: Afghanistan War Is a Failure: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JYxx0DS7h4
US Soldiers Are Waking Up! War is a Racket: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2ViWWsYmAc
AntiWar.com: http://antiwar.com/
Total Cost Of Wars Exceeds $2.5 Trillion – No Worries! US Media ‘Fluff’ Numbing Nation, Robbing Next Generation: http://dailybail.com/home/total-cost-of-wars-exceeds-25-trillion-no-worries-us-media-f.html

Obama’s report calls it “Progress”. If this is progress, how does Mr. Obama define FAILURE? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-naiman/afghanistan-review-shows_b_797729.html

The American people do not want this war. While hard working Americans are getting kicked out of their homes and living on the streets due to job losses and foreclosures, our Government is spending $120BIL a year for the war in Afghanistan.

Despite these huge costs, the situation on the ground is much worse than it was a year ago because the Taliban insurgency has made progress across the country. It is now very difficult to work outside the cities or even move around Afghanistan by road. The insurgents have built momentum, exploiting the shortcomings of the Afghan government and the mistakes of the coalition. The Taliban has become a national movement with a serious presence in the north and west. Foreign bases are completely isolated from their local environment and unable to protect the population. We’ve been in Afghanistan longer than the Soviet Red Army. Look at what that war did to the Soviets! How much more funny money will we print before we realize that we simply can not sustain this war? It is not economically feasible.

Our Soldiers are being medicated like never before: since 2001, 73,103 prescriptions for Zoloft have been dispensed, 38,199 for Prozac, 17,830 for Paxil and 12,047 for Cymbalta, according to Tricare 2009 data. All of the drugs carry a suicide warning label. In 2009 there were 160 active duty suicides, 239 suicides within the total Army including the Reserves, 146 active duty deaths from drug overdoses and high risk behavior and 1,713 suicide attempts. In addition to suicide, other out-of-character behavior like domestic violence is known to erupt from the drugs. http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=22267

We are sacrificing an entire generation for the benefit of the few who are in charge and have much to profit from all the destruction. War is not cheap. Take for example the much talked about drones: every Predator drone in use in Afghanistan costs taxpayers $4.5 million and a third of them crash. It costs $1,000,000 per soldier to support the war. Just think of all the jobs we could create with that money! Think of how robust our economy would be if we didn’t feed this death machine!

There is a strong anti war movement in our country right now. I think our Leaders should listen…

December Review: Afghanistan War Is a Failure: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JYxx0DS7h4
US Soldiers Are Waking Up! War is a Racket: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2ViWWsYmAc
AntiWar.com: http://antiwar.com/
Total Cost Of Wars Exceeds $2.5 Trillion – No Worries! US Media ‘Fluff’ Numbing Nation, Robbing Next Generation: http://dailybail.com/home/total-cost-of-wars-exceeds-25-trillion-no-worries-us-media-f.html

6:27 pm est: Still no mention of the story on any corporate news site. I think this is one of those things we sheep aren’t supposed to know about….

6:27 pm est: Still no mention of the story on any corporate news site. I think this is one of those things we sheep aren’t supposed to know about….

How right you are, kiboski. Thanks for pointing it out.

How right you are, kiboski. Thanks for pointing it out.

That clown Boehner needs to go fuck himself, and get a tan.

Pretty sad state of affairs when a putz like Boehner is considered a leader for anyone let alone Crying Clown of the House.

Kudos, bravo, unity…….to all those great Americans arrested today!!!!!!

SumDum, get off the playground seesaw. No matter which side you vote for you get Nazi.

That’s probably the only way to actually force the media’s attention. A couple thousand protesters in front of each of ABC/NBC/CBS’s headquarters, all dressed like the “see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil” monkeys. And a bunch of folks in dunce caps chained to the doors of FOX “News”. And smaller protests at affiliate stations over the following weeks, with the day’s real news as the protest talking points.

Ideology as Invective versus Ideology as Political Belief Systems, do try to keep up dear.

Spoon fed v Created

It’s Police State. You have to be in denial the likes of which I’ve only seen on the British Isle to have missed it. The end is Whoot Whoot, I can dance to it.

If I believed it force of bullets I would give you other advice. Sharpen your mind and evolve, now or die.

Matter = Energy
Force = Will

It is no longer physical, our next stage is mental. You crazy monkey fauckers.

Warpigs must feed. Tick tick tick. Just like witches at black masses.

Oh Lord Yeah.

“It costs a lot of money to kill people.”

It was reported that some town in Indiana had to lay off 5 part-time school crossing guards because there was not enough money in the budget. So now their kids’ lives are at risk.

But the going rate to support a soldier in Afghanistanis is $1 million a year. No one seems to have any problem with that.

Dissent may be patriotic but it’s also a sure way to get you into jails these days.

Amerika, land of the free, home of the brave, eh?

Public opinion has no effect on the actions of our government:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/16/secretaries-clinton-gates-low-public-support-afghanistan-respond_n_797708.html

Indispitutable proof that our “Representives” represent no one… – oops, pardon me, I nearly forgot that corporations are people too.

I’m afraid the only way it will get there is if at least 1350 veterans had been arrested. Then it might get 5 seconds in passing…

Don’t hold your breath. They never, ever make mention of any of this on the corporate media.

Don’t hold your breath. They never, ever make mention of any of this on the corporate media.

If this is progress, how does Mr. Obama define FAILURE?

Ah, it appears you are not familiar with the fine art of Doublespeak.

If this is progress, how does Mr. Obama define FAILURE?

Ah, it appears you are not familiar with the fine art of Doublespeak.

I wouldn’t go around quoting Holbroke too much. This is was his debacle as much as Obama’s and the guy was a war criminal.

I wouldn’t go around quoting Holbroke too much. This is was his debacle as much as Obama’s and the guy was a war criminal.

Oh, yes. Big Terrorist and Little Terrorist. Perfect together!

Oh, yes. Big Terrorist and Little Terrorist. Perfect together!

Was this on the tv machine ?

You’ll never see it. Besides, they’re all busy telling the sheeple how wonderful the economy is and go shop till you drop again.

You’ll never see it. Besides, they’re all busy telling the sheeple how wonderful the economy is and go shop till you drop again.

Watch and foremost read Naomi Klein’s Book The Shock Doctrine to understand what’s going on. The US is calling it neo-cortical warefare. Read and you will understand what those Walmart DHS Videos do mean. Its 1984 on steroids.

Watch and foremost read Naomi Klein’s Book The Shock Doctrine to understand what’s going on. The US is calling it neo-cortical warefare. Read and you will understand what those Walmart DHS Videos do mean. Its 1984 on steroids.

Scratch from existence another part of the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution: “the peaceful redress of grievances.”

Oh, once mighty American, beset on all sides by cruel, cruel conservatives, with hell as one of their right-wing handmaidens, with fascism being the other.

Scratch from existence another part of the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution: “the peaceful redress of grievances.”

Oh, once mighty American, beset on all sides by cruel, cruel conservatives, with hell as one of their right-wing handmaidens, with fascism being the other.

Exactly! But such is the nature of these tail wagging snitches.

Exactly! But such is the nature of these tail wagging snitches.

All this folks are already in the
“terrorist List” According to HERMAN GORING.

“The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.”

In an interview with Gilbert in Göring’s jail cell during the Nuremberg War Crimes Trials (18 April 1946)

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Hermann_G%C3%B6ring

All this folks are already in the
“terrorist List” According to HERMAN GORING.

“The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.”

In an interview with Gilbert in Göring’s jail cell during the Nuremberg War Crimes Trials (18 April 1946)

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Hermann_G%C3%B6ring

All this folks are already in the
“terrorist List” According to HERMAN GORING.

“The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.”

In an interview with Gilbert in Göring’s jail cell during the Nuremberg War Crimes Trials (18 April 1946)

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Hermann_G%C3%B6ring

7:30 pm EST: Still not a word on any MSM site. 131 veterans arrested AT THE WHITE HOUSE — including a P. prize winner, ex CIA man, and a Former FBI agent . 3 Hours Ago !!!!!!!!!!!! And no one will touch it.

Must have to get it past the Ministry of Information before they can report on it… cuz Big Sis Says So, That’s Why sheep!

7:30 pm EST: Still not a word on any MSM site. 131 veterans arrested AT THE WHITE HOUSE — including a P. prize winner, ex CIA man, and a Former FBI agent . 3 Hours Ago !!!!!!!!!!!! And no one will touch it.

Must have to get it past the Ministry of Information before they can report on it… cuz Big Sis Says So, That’s Why sheep!

7:30 pm EST: Still not a word on any MSM site. 131 veterans arrested AT THE WHITE HOUSE — including a P. prize winner, ex CIA man, and a Former FBI agent . 3 Hours Ago !!!!!!!!!!!! And no one will touch it.

Must have to get it past the Ministry of Information before they can report on it… cuz Big Sis Says So, That’s Why sheep!

They came first for the Communists,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew.
Then they came for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up.

- Pastor Martin Niemöller

They came first for the Communists,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew.
Then they came for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up.

- Pastor Martin Niemöller

They came first for the Communists,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew.
Then they came for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up.

- Pastor Martin Niemöller

Bush Jr said this was going to be a cake walk. It will end in two weeks. All his cronies said the same thing. Cake walk, flowers and candy.

Yeah I know he was talking about Iraq. Bush Jr did divert all the military from Afghanistan to Iraq.

To get an idea how Afghanistan was being fought when Bush Jr was the, ‘deeeecider”, okay this is how Bush Jr ran the theater in Afghanistan, image two men policing New York City 24/7. That’s right just two men.

Obama comes along and puts the right number of troops in Afghanistan. This is the reason the war looks ugly. It would have looked ugly under Bush Jr’s watch if he actually did what he claims he was going to do which is fight a war in Afghanistan, but wink wink he didn’t really want to go after Osama Bins Laden because Osama is a Saudi and Saudis support terrorists and Junior supports terrorists too.

Bush Jr said this was going to be a cake walk. It will end in two weeks. All his cronies said the same thing. Cake walk, flowers and candy.

Yeah I know he was talking about Iraq. Bush Jr did divert all the military from Afghanistan to Iraq.

To get an idea how Afghanistan was being fought when Bush Jr was the, ‘deeeecider”, okay this is how Bush Jr ran the theater in Afghanistan, image two men policing New York City 24/7. That’s right just two men.

Obama comes along and puts the right number of troops in Afghanistan. This is the reason the war looks ugly. It would have looked ugly under Bush Jr’s watch if he actually did what he claims he was going to do which is fight a war in Afghanistan, but wink wink he didn’t really want to go after Osama Bins Laden because Osama is a Saudi and Saudis support terrorists and Junior supports terrorists too.

Bush Jr said this was going to be a cake walk. It will end in two weeks. All his cronies said the same thing. Cake walk, flowers and candy.

Yeah I know he was talking about Iraq. Bush Jr did divert all the military from Afghanistan to Iraq.

To get an idea how Afghanistan was being fought when Bush Jr was the, ‘deeeecider”, okay this is how Bush Jr ran the theater in Afghanistan, image two men policing New York City 24/7. That’s right just two men.

Obama comes along and puts the right number of troops in Afghanistan. This is the reason the war looks ugly. It would have looked ugly under Bush Jr’s watch if he actually did what he claims he was going to do which is fight a war in Afghanistan, but wink wink he didn’t really want to go after Osama Bins Laden because Osama is a Saudi and Saudis support terrorists and Junior supports terrorists too.

[...] UPDATE X8: From Raw Story -  [...]

Well let’s see how much footage of this protest makes the nightly news!

Remember if it doesn’t make it on to the TV it didn’t happen for all intents and purposes!

Well let’s see how much footage of this protest makes the nightly news!

Remember if it doesn’t make it on to the TV it didn’t happen for all intents and purposes!

I think we should be buying ropes alright but not for ourselves but for the bought and paid for politicians.

I think we should be buying ropes alright but not for ourselves but for the bought and paid for politicians.

Not at the Representative level. While the O man is being waaaay to practical when it comes to the Bush wars there are many individual Representatives that are not corporatist yes men and still vote on principle and values. We need about 120 more and we can get control of our country again.

Not at the Representative level. While the O man is being waaaay to practical when it comes to the Bush wars there are many individual Representatives that are not corporatist yes men and still vote on principle and values. We need about 120 more and we can get control of our country again.

Your political belief systems are how they have you by the throat.

Your political belief systems are how they have you by the throat.

You will never get control of our country until you take back the money system from the criminals.

You can send Robin Hood and all his merry men to DC and they will be stealing from you and giving to the oligarchs within their first term.

You will never get control of our country until you take back the money system from the criminals.

You can send Robin Hood and all his merry men to DC and they will be stealing from you and giving to the oligarchs within their first term.

You again assume to much. One who does not know the systems of the enemy is bound to succumb to them.

So say we all.

What system is it you accuse me of being bound to exactly this time? Reason? Logic? A quest for answers?

Guilt as charged do you worst Worm Your Honor.

You again assume to much. One who does not know the systems of the enemy is bound to succumb to them.

So say we all.

What system is it you accuse me of being bound to exactly this time? Reason? Logic? A quest for answers?

Guilt as charged do you worst Worm Your Honor.

What a bunch of retrograde hippies. Don’t they know whatever is good for the oil companies and defense industry and other giant corporate political donors is what’s good for the country? Without a war for the media to keep the public focused on nationalism and therefore submissive to large corporate interests, the public will start thinking of their own interests. The people might think their tax dollars would be better put to causes close to home, and Glenn Beck tells us that’s “socialism.” Therefore these complainers at the White-house are raising their voices to promote socialism.

What a bunch of retrograde hippies. Don’t they know whatever is good for the oil companies and defense industry and other giant corporate political donors is what’s good for the country? Without a war for the media to keep the public focused on nationalism and therefore submissive to large corporate interests, the public will start thinking of their own interests. The people might think their tax dollars would be better put to causes close to home, and Glenn Beck tells us that’s “socialism.” Therefore these complainers at the White-house are raising their voices to promote socialism.

Sad to say the U.S. has accomplished 90% of its objectives in Afghanistan and 100% of its Strategic objectives. The Only thing we are doing there now is trying to “save face” and show the world that we are not going to leave the Afghanis with an unstable government in a tattered and volatile region. Of course we are ,no matter what we say it looks like at the time. Whats more, that was probably the original plan.

Sad to say the U.S. has accomplished 90% of its objectives in Afghanistan and 100% of its Strategic objectives. The Only thing we are doing there now is trying to “save face” and show the world that we are not going to leave the Afghanis with an unstable government in a tattered and volatile region. Of course we are ,no matter what we say it looks like at the time. Whats more, that was probably the original plan.

Sad to say the U.S. has accomplished 90% of its objectives in Afghanistan and 100% of its Strategic objectives. The Only thing we are doing there now is trying to “save face” and show the world that we are not going to leave the Afghanis with an unstable government in a tattered and volatile region. Of course we are ,no matter what we say it looks like at the time. Whats more, that was probably the original plan.

Sad to say the U.S. has accomplished 90% of its objectives in Afghanistan and 100% of its Strategic objectives. The Only thing we are doing there now is trying to “save face” and show the world that we are not going to leave the Afghanis with an unstable government in a tattered and volatile region. Of course we are ,no matter what we say it looks like at the time. Whats more, that was probably the original plan.

Is the other word….HYPE…???

Is the other word….HYPE…???

So true, and yet so utterly lost on so many. We’re in for some very tough times.

So true, and yet so utterly lost on so many. We’re in for some very tough times.

Right, so poeple are dying, and being tortures and blown to bits so our nation, and by extension the last two administrations, can look like they have some compassion. When really, we A :Klobbered the taliban and bombed what was left of them even further back into the stone age, B: Killed off almost all of the 14 to 25 year old males who would mount a possible resugance of the Taliban. and C: Showed we would do retribution against those who aid our enemies. I.E. mess with us and we will mess with you ten times worse.
The only thing we might want a stable government in Afghanistan for is to help us build our pipeline but I’m sure we will get it anyway so, now, all the killing and dying there is just for show.

Right, so poeple are dying, and being tortures and blown to bits so our nation, and by extension the last two administrations, can look like they have some compassion. When really, we A :Klobbered the taliban and bombed what was left of them even further back into the stone age, B: Killed off almost all of the 14 to 25 year old males who would mount a possible resugance of the Taliban. and C: Showed we would do retribution against those who aid our enemies. I.E. mess with us and we will mess with you ten times worse.
The only thing we might want a stable government in Afghanistan for is to help us build our pipeline but I’m sure we will get it anyway so, now, all the killing and dying there is just for show.

Right, so poeple are dying, and being tortures and blown to bits so our nation, and by extension the last two administrations, can look like they have some compassion. When really, we A :Klobbered the taliban and bombed what was left of them even further back into the stone age, B: Killed off almost all of the 14 to 25 year old males who would mount a possible resugance of the Taliban. and C: Showed we would do retribution against those who aid our enemies. I.E. mess with us and we will mess with you ten times worse.
The only thing we might want a stable government in Afghanistan for is to help us build our pipeline but I’m sure we will get it anyway so, now, all the killing and dying there is just for show.

At least I’ll get to enjoy some of my life before I get sent off to prison. The subversives who are young wont get to do anything in life.

It’s really simple. If you were such a warrior why haven’t you formed a gang / mafia? Where is your income going to come from if you don’t have a cartel? Who is going to train you on how to kill, how to shoot guns, how to bomb? Are you willing to abandon your family today this instant, never see them again, adopt a dozen false identities?

That is what it takes to live as a subversive, you have to become a master criminal/con artist. It’s not worth it unless you are truly serious about revolution, and revolutionaries don’t get to have friends, don’t get to trust anyone, don’t get to fall in love like you see in movies, all of these things will get you killed quick.

I think most of you are just people who go online to talk and vent, but who would never shoot a gun, never join a gang, never break a law. You probably say what you say under your real identity, so the feds already know what you think so your cover is already blown.

Face it, you are powerless. The local thug across the street has more power than you. If you want to change that then you’ll have to start by going off the grid and creating a completely new identity. Use your connections to get a fake passport and fake identity, if you don’t have connections to do even the most basic, you aren’t going to be an effective subversive and you’ll just end up getting killed.

At least I’ll get to enjoy some of my life before I get sent off to prison. The subversives who are young wont get to do anything in life.

It’s really simple. If you were such a warrior why haven’t you formed a gang / mafia? Where is your income going to come from if you don’t have a cartel? Who is going to train you on how to kill, how to shoot guns, how to bomb? Are you willing to abandon your family today this instant, never see them again, adopt a dozen false identities?

That is what it takes to live as a subversive, you have to become a master criminal/con artist. It’s not worth it unless you are truly serious about revolution, and revolutionaries don’t get to have friends, don’t get to trust anyone, don’t get to fall in love like you see in movies, all of these things will get you killed quick.

I think most of you are just people who go online to talk and vent, but who would never shoot a gun, never join a gang, never break a law. You probably say what you say under your real identity, so the feds already know what you think so your cover is already blown.

Face it, you are powerless. The local thug across the street has more power than you. If you want to change that then you’ll have to start by going off the grid and creating a completely new identity. Use your connections to get a fake passport and fake identity, if you don’t have connections to do even the most basic, you aren’t going to be an effective subversive and you’ll just end up getting killed.

Revolutions aren’t led from the bottom, they are lead from the top. Until the establishment decides it’s time for a revolution then you’ll just have a bunch of subversives who will be locked up and killed off.

If these subversives had any power we’d see some positive effects from their actions. The fact that we don’t means they are loud and powerless. Siding with them will just speed up your demise unless there is a truly organized resistance and in that case it wouldn’t be people online, it wouldn’t be hackers, it would be people with the power to kill, willing to die, and highly educated, rich, etc. Essentially it would be the intelligence operatives trained to lead revolutions, and the rich benefactors.

I’m not an intelligence operative. I’m not a revolutionary. I’ve never shot a gun, I don’t know how to make IED’s, I would just get killed. So would the majority of you. Let the professional mercenaries and soldiers handle it and stay out of it.

Revolutions aren’t led from the bottom, they are lead from the top. Until the establishment decides it’s time for a revolution then you’ll just have a bunch of subversives who will be locked up and killed off.

If these subversives had any power we’d see some positive effects from their actions. The fact that we don’t means they are loud and powerless. Siding with them will just speed up your demise unless there is a truly organized resistance and in that case it wouldn’t be people online, it wouldn’t be hackers, it would be people with the power to kill, willing to die, and highly educated, rich, etc. Essentially it would be the intelligence operatives trained to lead revolutions, and the rich benefactors.

I’m not an intelligence operative. I’m not a revolutionary. I’ve never shot a gun, I don’t know how to make IED’s, I would just get killed. So would the majority of you. Let the professional mercenaries and soldiers handle it and stay out of it.

“I’m not an intelligence operative”.

I agree, you have no constituency whatsoever and constantly contradict yourself…..

“I’m not an intelligence operative”.

I agree, you have no constituency whatsoever and constantly contradict yourself…..

Typically speaking it does not make sense to be a subversive as an American citizen because you already have an ID card, a license, social security number, phone number and all that. They already know everything about you so you can never be an effective subversive.

The effective subversives will be Mexican gangsters, foreigners who come with false identities, who don’t have friends, who don’t have lives to leave behind, who spend years training in camps for subversives where they learned what they need to know. Professional subversives are not kids coming from their safe suburban neighborhoods who think in their 20s they want to take on the government who had 20+ years to gather information about them, who knows where they live, what they look like, what their name is, has their DNA and finger print and can track them on satellite and through all technical means.

I hope you understand that if Americans can’t do something basic like start mafias and gangs without being locked up in prison, what makes you think they can fight a revolution under that kind of law enforcement scrutiny, and under that kind of counter intelligence? Look at a prison and you see all the subversives who thought they could fight back and stand up for themselves, they are the casualties of the revolution, and the ones who aren’t in prison are dead.

I guess because most of them are poor and black or brown, nobody recognizes the history of the whole situation. When white teenagers start trying to be subversives they’ll find themselves facing the same shit and of course they wont know how to deal with it.

Typically speaking it does not make sense to be a subversive as an American citizen because you already have an ID card, a license, social security number, phone number and all that. They already know everything about you so you can never be an effective subversive.

The effective subversives will be Mexican gangsters, foreigners who come with false identities, who don’t have friends, who don’t have lives to leave behind, who spend years training in camps for subversives where they learned what they need to know. Professional subversives are not kids coming from their safe suburban neighborhoods who think in their 20s they want to take on the government who had 20+ years to gather information about them, who knows where they live, what they look like, what their name is, has their DNA and finger print and can track them on satellite and through all technical means.

I hope you understand that if Americans can’t do something basic like start mafias and gangs without being locked up in prison, what makes you think they can fight a revolution under that kind of law enforcement scrutiny, and under that kind of counter intelligence? Look at a prison and you see all the subversives who thought they could fight back and stand up for themselves, they are the casualties of the revolution, and the ones who aren’t in prison are dead.

I guess because most of them are poor and black or brown, nobody recognizes the history of the whole situation. When white teenagers start trying to be subversives they’ll find themselves facing the same shit and of course they wont know how to deal with it.

Actually they don’t even bother much to use war for propaganda purpose anymore, after 8 years it starts to lose it’s effect.
They’ve learned that we have evolved to the point that they can execute wars and if their bought and owned media doesn’t report on it, it doesn’t exist in the minds of the public.

No TV or newspaper coverage?
Problem solved.

Actually they don’t even bother much to use war for propaganda purpose anymore, after 8 years it starts to lose it’s effect.
They’ve learned that we have evolved to the point that they can execute wars and if their bought and owned media doesn’t report on it, it doesn’t exist in the minds of the public.

No TV or newspaper coverage?
Problem solved.

Actually they don’t even bother much to use war for propaganda purpose anymore, after 8 years it starts to lose it’s effect.
They’ve learned that we have evolved to the point that they can execute wars and if their bought and owned media doesn’t report on it, it doesn’t exist in the minds of the public.

No TV or newspaper coverage?
Problem solved.

The game plan is if people don’t see it on TV or read about it in the newspapers,
it doesn’t exist.

Seems to work well for them, unfortunately.

The game plan is if people don’t see it on TV or read about it in the newspapers,
it doesn’t exist.

Seems to work well for them, unfortunately.

The game plan is if people don’t see it on TV or read about it in the newspapers,
it doesn’t exist.

Seems to work well for them, unfortunately.

In all fairness, I think you should stick to issues you fully comprehend , Obviously politics and history are not on the list.

In all fairness, I think you should stick to issues you fully comprehend , Obviously politics and history are not on the list.

In all fairness, I think you should stick to issues you fully comprehend , Obviously politics and history are not on the list.

thanks for reporting, good to know regardless..

thanks for reporting, good to know regardless..

thanks for reporting, good to know regardless..

What were the objectives, of which 90% have been accomplished? And please articulate the Strategic objectives that are 100% achieved.

What were the objectives, of which 90% have been accomplished? And please articulate the Strategic objectives that are 100% achieved.

What were the objectives, of which 90% have been accomplished? And please articulate the Strategic objectives that are 100% achieved.

What were the objectives, of which 90% have been accomplished? And please articulate the Strategic objectives that are 100% achieved.

What were the objectives, of which 90% have been accomplished? And please articulate the Strategic objectives that are 100% achieved.

What were the objectives, of which 90% have been accomplished? And please articulate the Strategic objectives that are 100% achieved.

I have been channel flipping all evening, trying to find TV coverage of the arrests. There is no more TV news. Only corporate, oligarchy, manipulation of the sheeple. The whimpers, will soon change to cries of outrage and pain. We have to stop the beast, before it extinguishes us.

I have been channel flipping all evening, trying to find TV coverage of the arrests. There is no more TV news. Only corporate, oligarchy, manipulation of the sheeple. The whimpers, will soon change to cries of outrage and pain. We have to stop the beast, before it extinguishes us.

I have been channel flipping all evening, trying to find TV coverage of the arrests. There is no more TV news. Only corporate, oligarchy, manipulation of the sheeple. The whimpers, will soon change to cries of outrage and pain. We have to stop the beast, before it extinguishes us.

I have been channel flipping all evening, trying to find TV coverage of the arrests. There is no more TV news. Only corporate, oligarchy, manipulation of the sheeple. The whimpers, will soon change to cries of outrage and pain. We have to stop the beast, before it extinguishes us.

You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about. This isn’t the wild west or “Escape from New York”. This is real life.

Did you look at those so-called “subversives” in the article, those guys who were arrested? They’re just people– some ex-military to be sure, but also students, writers, etc. And all they did was wave some signs and chained themselves to a fence! I don’t see anyone taking up arms and throwing molotov cocktails while the jackboots gun them down in the streets. It hasn’t come to that, fortunately.

But you see, that’s not what this is about. This is about the Them telling me what I can or can’t download online, or infiltrating my book club, or fondling my nuts when I get on a plane, or watching what I buy with my credit cards. And if I speak up and say I don’t like that, it makes me a “subversive” in their eyes– all without torching a single police car!

Ever read “1984″? That is a novel about subversion, in a world where just having an independent thought and a little privacy is deemed treasonous. There is hardly any violence in the story. No teargas, no riots, no secret meetings of tough-as-nails resistance fighters. Just the crushing oppression of being watched and manipulated every hour of every day, year after year after year. Eventually, Big Brother finally decides that the “subversive” has gone far enough– he kept a a diary, had a love affair, he bought a trinket, after all!– and he is whisked away to be tortured and ‘corrected’. Doesn’t that sound uncomfortably familiar? And doesn’t it frighten you at all?

No, I am not a thug, I don’t run a gang, and I don’t live in the shadows. The best I can do is shout and try to convince the mouth-breathers around me that we’re slipping into dangerous times. Yup, I could be disappeared or shot at any time, but frankly, I still trust my society enough that I don’t fear that sort of thing. Yet.

So yes, I admit that I am largely powerless. But together, We are not powerless, and They know it. That’s why They stoke the fear, play up the nationalism, and keep up us generally fat and happy– because They know something that We have largely forgotten:

United we stand, or divided we fall.

You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about. This isn’t the wild west or “Escape from New York”. This is real life.

Did you look at those so-called “subversives” in the article, those guys who were arrested? They’re just people– some ex-military to be sure, but also students, writers, etc. And all they did was wave some signs and chained themselves to a fence! I don’t see anyone taking up arms and throwing molotov cocktails while the jackboots gun them down in the streets. It hasn’t come to that, fortunately.

But you see, that’s not what this is about. This is about the Them telling me what I can or can’t download online, or infiltrating my book club, or fondling my nuts when I get on a plane, or watching what I buy with my credit cards. And if I speak up and say I don’t like that, it makes me a “subversive” in their eyes– all without torching a single police car!

Ever read “1984″? That is a novel about subversion, in a world where just having an independent thought and a little privacy is deemed treasonous. There is hardly any violence in the story. No teargas, no riots, no secret meetings of tough-as-nails resistance fighters. Just the crushing oppression of being watched and manipulated every hour of every day, year after year after year. Eventually, Big Brother finally decides that the “subversive” has gone far enough– he kept a a diary, had a love affair, he bought a trinket, after all!– and he is whisked away to be tortured and ‘corrected’. Doesn’t that sound uncomfortably familiar? And doesn’t it frighten you at all?

No, I am not a thug, I don’t run a gang, and I don’t live in the shadows. The best I can do is shout and try to convince the mouth-breathers around me that we’re slipping into dangerous times. Yup, I could be disappeared or shot at any time, but frankly, I still trust my society enough that I don’t fear that sort of thing. Yet.

So yes, I admit that I am largely powerless. But together, We are not powerless, and They know it. That’s why They stoke the fear, play up the nationalism, and keep up us generally fat and happy– because They know something that We have largely forgotten:

United we stand, or divided we fall.

You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about. This isn’t the wild west or “Escape from New York”. This is real life.

Did you look at those so-called “subversives” in the article, those guys who were arrested? They’re just people– some ex-military to be sure, but also students, writers, etc. And all they did was wave some signs and chained themselves to a fence! I don’t see anyone taking up arms and throwing molotov cocktails while the jackboots gun them down in the streets. It hasn’t come to that, fortunately.

But you see, that’s not what this is about. This is about the Them telling me what I can or can’t download online, or infiltrating my book club, or fondling my nuts when I get on a plane, or watching what I buy with my credit cards. And if I speak up and say I don’t like that, it makes me a “subversive” in their eyes– all without torching a single police car!

Ever read “1984″? That is a novel about subversion, in a world where just having an independent thought and a little privacy is deemed treasonous. There is hardly any violence in the story. No teargas, no riots, no secret meetings of tough-as-nails resistance fighters. Just the crushing oppression of being watched and manipulated every hour of every day, year after year after year. Eventually, Big Brother finally decides that the “subversive” has gone far enough– he kept a a diary, had a love affair, he bought a trinket, after all!– and he is whisked away to be tortured and ‘corrected’. Doesn’t that sound uncomfortably familiar? And doesn’t it frighten you at all?

No, I am not a thug, I don’t run a gang, and I don’t live in the shadows. The best I can do is shout and try to convince the mouth-breathers around me that we’re slipping into dangerous times. Yup, I could be disappeared or shot at any time, but frankly, I still trust my society enough that I don’t fear that sort of thing. Yet.

So yes, I admit that I am largely powerless. But together, We are not powerless, and They know it. That’s why They stoke the fear, play up the nationalism, and keep up us generally fat and happy– because They know something that We have largely forgotten:

United we stand, or divided we fall.

You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about. This isn’t the wild west or “Escape from New York”. This is real life.

Did you look at those so-called “subversives” in the article, those guys who were arrested? They’re just people– some ex-military to be sure, but also students, writers, etc. And all they did was wave some signs and chained themselves to a fence! I don’t see anyone taking up arms and throwing molotov cocktails while the jackboots gun them down in the streets. It hasn’t come to that, fortunately.

But you see, that’s not what this is about. This is about the Them telling me what I can or can’t download online, or infiltrating my book club, or fondling my nuts when I get on a plane, or watching what I buy with my credit cards. And if I speak up and say I don’t like that, it makes me a “subversive” in their eyes– all without torching a single police car!

Ever read “1984″? That is a novel about subversion, in a world where just having an independent thought and a little privacy is deemed treasonous. There is hardly any violence in the story. No teargas, no riots, no secret meetings of tough-as-nails resistance fighters. Just the crushing oppression of being watched and manipulated every hour of every day, year after year after year. Eventually, Big Brother finally decides that the “subversive” has gone far enough– he kept a a diary, had a love affair, he bought a trinket, after all!– and he is whisked away to be tortured and ‘corrected’. Doesn’t that sound uncomfortably familiar? And doesn’t it frighten you at all?

No, I am not a thug, I don’t run a gang, and I don’t live in the shadows. The best I can do is shout and try to convince the mouth-breathers around me that we’re slipping into dangerous times. Yup, I could be disappeared or shot at any time, but frankly, I still trust my society enough that I don’t fear that sort of thing. Yet.

So yes, I admit that I am largely powerless. But together, We are not powerless, and They know it. That’s why They stoke the fear, play up the nationalism, and keep up us generally fat and happy– because They know something that We have largely forgotten:

United we stand, or divided we fall.

Not sure you read the correct story. Try this:
http://my.firedoglake.com/robertgreenwald/2010/12/15/failure-not-progress-in-afghanistan/

Not sure you read the correct story. Try this:
http://my.firedoglake.com/robertgreenwald/2010/12/15/failure-not-progress-in-afghanistan/

Not sure you read the correct story. Try this:
http://my.firedoglake.com/robertgreenwald/2010/12/15/failure-not-progress-in-afghanistan/

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http://my.firedoglake.com/robertgreenwald/2010/12/15/failure-not-progress-in-afghanistan/

corp media sucks as usual

OK… I think I finally see what you’re getting at here. And to some extent, I might agree. Your point, if I understand correctly, is roughly this: Given all the supposed anger, why isn’t there a real resistance movement? And your answer, roughly, is: Because Americans are soft.

A revolution as you seem to envision it depends upon people willing to sacrifice, or who have nothing to lose, or are trained in the ways of violence. Maybe that’s true, I can’t say. All I know is that America obviously hasn’t fallen to into the sort of desperation to stoke those kinds of fires. Maybe it never will. But if and when it does, I suspect all those fat rednecks, uptight suburbanites and squirrelly urban hipsters would figure it out really quick.

But seriously, talk of that sort really is more than a little premature; as long as people are only chaining themselves to fences, blogging from their iPads, yelling at town meetings, picketing business, and and other such mundanities, I’m pretty sure the country still has room to correct things before stuff blows up.

As for why there isn’t are true movement, I think the only real “failure” in that regard at this point is rooted in two things:

First, Americans are optimists at heart, and therefore largely in denial that things are as bad as they are. We’re too enamored of our system to truly threaten it– or to believe that others (especially our leaders) would threaten it.

Second is a simple lack of leadership. There are no obvious opposition leaders among the political or media class, which I imagine is where such a person would come from. Maybe some rising-star nobody could surprise everyone and come out of nowhere, but that’s unlikely, imho.

But if and when push comes to shove, either the “resistance” will get their act together or it won’t. And history will record that story through the eyes of the victors. So be it.

Anyway, I’m finished blowing smoke out my ass on this topic. Good night, and good luck.

I went to a “socialism” once,they had Texas BBQ and Jack Daniels and Jesus on a stick.

Yeah, ‘Change we can believe in…’
Obama got elected and CHANGED into a republican

If I may be redundant:
Change We Can Believe In…
Obama CHANGED into a republican

:)…

Your choice is basically, fascism today or fascism next month.

HA!

Go Ray McGovern and Friends!

FUCK YOU RAW STORY YOU PIECE OF FUCKING SHIT

I wonder if ever the denial and abuse of civil liberties/rights in America will ever be corrected.

A state of Paranoia is approaching.

We ought to know what that should herald

A couple hundred people show up for a Tea Party and it is big news.

Tens of thousand of veterans and people for peace show up, not so much.

War is an obscenity. War is a lie. Stop fighting and dying for the one percent.

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I think you have a crush on Stephen C. Webster, but he never gave you the attention you think you deserve .lol.

if you hate raw so much, why do you even come here?…are you a masochist?…you should go get laid or something…get out of the basement for a while…i think you’re losing your mind….

1:30 am est: Still ZERO coverage at all major corporate news media sites. How can mass arrests at the White House be kept out of the news? This is a really, really big deal! If a Lindsay Lohan farts, all of America knows about it within 5 minutes. How can this be kept completely invisible?

1:30 am est: Still ZERO coverage at all major corporate news media sites. How can mass arrests at the White House be kept out of the news? This is a really, really big deal! If a Lindsay Lohan farts, all of America knows about it within 5 minutes. How can this be kept completely invisible?

Funny…I thought it was OUR White House, OUR Senate, OUR House….and that we had the right to address government and peaceful protest….WHAT country is this….? The American DREAM is just that, a dream that is only possible when you are sleeping…what freedoms…? that “they hate us for”…President Bush…? President Obama…? the freedom to be wealthy enough, to burn peasants to keep your fat, rich, “white” asses comfortable….?

Thanks for posting this new item.

Another thing is the Red Cross news conference:

Afghanistan security at low point: Red Cross

http://www.theage.com.au/world/afghanistan-security-at-low-point-red-cross-20101216-18zjo.html

Or, the 234 million bucks spent in one day over there, could send everyone in Afghanistan to school for a year.

“The American DREAM is just that, a dream that is only possible when you are sleeping…what freedoms…?”

“They call it the ‘American Dream’ because you have to be asleep to believe it.”
George Carlin

Fucking nitwit.

C’mon. What are you a blind man with a loaded gun? Hang Peter DeFazio? Fuck you.

Maybe we can help. I know it is getting towards the end of the month and you are getting low on your bi-polar meds, maybe we can start a collection for you.

HA!…you write like i do…did you ever read Herb Caen?…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herb_Caen

Maybe now people can understand why the few conscious Americans dont protest often.
I realize that getting arrested is apart of protesting but being harassed by govt/police is no joke.
The only time I ever protest again, is if a majority of this nation is protesting right along with me.
They cant arrest a million people at the same time. Only through very large numbers can protestors be somewhat protected and given some kind of media coverage.

Why would they show this on the new$?
To show Americans that there are reasons why accredited former govt officials/professionals are against these wars too? Yet mainstream media dont mind continious stories on WikiLeaks cables. If there was any doubt before, this is pretty much proof that there is selective censorship in the media.
So the question is, why arent they censoring the ‘biggest leak’ since the Pentagon Papers?
Oh and I love how Daniel Ellsberg pops up out of no where all of a sudden.

Maybe now people can understand why the few conscious Americans dont protest often.
I realize that getting arrested is apart of protesting but being harassed by govt/police is no joke.
The only time I ever protest again, is if a majority of this nation is protesting right along with me.
They cant arrest a million people at the same time. Only through very large numbers can protestors be somewhat protected and given some kind of media coverage.

Why would they show this on the new$?
To show Americans that there are reasons why accredited former govt officials/professionals are against these wars too? Yet mainstream media dont mind continious stories on WikiLeaks cables. If there was any doubt before, this is pretty much proof that there is selective censorship in the media.
So the question is, why arent they censoring the ‘biggest leak’ since the Pentagon Papers?
Oh and I love how Daniel Ellsberg pops up out of no where all of a sudden.

Maybe now people can understand why the few conscious Americans dont protest often.
I realize that getting arrested is apart of protesting but being harassed by govt/police is no joke.
The only time I ever protest again, is if a majority of this nation is protesting right along with me.
They cant arrest a million people at the same time. Only through very large numbers can protestors be somewhat protected and given some kind of media coverage.

Why would they show this on the new$?
To show Americans that there are reasons why accredited former govt officials/professionals are against these wars too? Yet mainstream media dont mind continious stories on WikiLeaks cables. If there was any doubt before, this is pretty much proof that there is selective censorship in the media.
So the question is, why arent they censoring the ‘biggest leak’ since the Pentagon Papers?
Oh and I love how Daniel Ellsberg pops up out of no where all of a sudden.

hey , all the times I’ve been arrested at protests its been with my people. remember, for every one that gets arrested there are a thousand at home who don’t feel they can’t risk it. Always go with a group and with a friend. Right now it doesn’t feel like its doing anything but slow steady pressure is certainly worthwhile.

I think the dunce caps would be a good idea but have doubts about being costumed as monkeys. People would think it is like a play rather than a demonstration, but big signs with enlarged pictures of the monkeys would convey the idea.

Right to complain: DENIED!

They cant arrest a million people at the same time.

This is how they will do it. No arrests,no due process, just indefinite detention. This time they won’t use trains, they have large tractor trailers ready to roll, and plenty of brain washed soldiers who have been fed garbage about how they don’t get the support they deserve. They planted the seed, by polling active military on, could they shoot civilians.

They will use the Patriot Act to detain you without charge, and the military, to move you to the detention camps they have been building.

November 1963

You know how this will end, right?

We will have spent a trillion-plus dollars on nation-building, which isn’t actually nation-building according to all official US reports, and we will have gained absolutely nothing. We will be forced to withdrawal after not having any sort of mission accomplished. The Taliban will have kept their safe haven and the US will never be able to service its war debt.

Then, the Chinese will come in with billions, develop Afghanistan’s sprawling and quite undeveloped lithium resources, and become the masters of the new electric car industry.

Nothing will happen until there are hundreds of thousands in the streets. Fact is, the ‘Mission Accomplished’ banner was absolutely correct. The mission was to get us over there, build some bases, and move the equipment over. Once the U.S. Military got in, it had no intention of ever getting out. They will keep stringing the people along, like a carrot in front of a donkey; always almost ready to leave, never quite leaving.

[...] joined in an act of civil disobedience organized by Veterans for Peace that ended with about 135 demonstrators being arrested outside the White House Thursday afternoon. A solidarity protest was held in New York City, where close to a dozen were [...]

Effective subversives actually win at urban warfare. America has no effective subversives.

It’s really hard to make out your meaning from your pigeon English. I try, but you make sense difficult to find.

Anyway, Ribuconski pointing out that voting Democrat is voting for warmongering in no way suggests the only alternative is to vote for Nazis.

It’s really hard to make out your meaning from your pigeon English. I try, but you make sense difficult to find.

Anyway, Ribuconski pointing out that voting Democrat is voting for warmongering in no way suggests the only alternative is to vote for Nazis.

Except for one thing – he was joking around trying to put on a good face for his doctor.

Except for one thing – he was joking around trying to put on a good face for his doctor.

Good point about majorities.Find the ratio of Liberal/Conservative Senators that strikes a balance -65/35?, 70/30? -and perhaps you have also found the REAL Liberal/Conservative ratio of the general population.

Good point about majorities.Find the ratio of Liberal/Conservative Senators that strikes a balance -65/35?, 70/30? -and perhaps you have also found the REAL Liberal/Conservative ratio of the general population.

DesertSun59 is right on the mark!

DesertSun59 is right on the mark!

DesertSun59 is right on the mark!

DesertSun59 is right on the mark!

DesertSun59 is right on the mark!

DesertSun59 is right on the mark!

DesertSun59 is right on the mark!

DesertSun59 is right on the mark!

I liked your comment but perhaps your comment fell a bit short? Warmongering = bad, zionist = bad, Democrats = bad, Republicans = ?

I liked your comment but perhaps your comment fell a bit short? Warmongering = bad, zionist = bad, Democrats = bad, Republicans = ?

I liked your comment but perhaps your comment fell a bit short? Warmongering = bad, zionist = bad, Democrats = bad, Republicans = ?

I liked your comment but perhaps your comment fell a bit short? Warmongering = bad, zionist = bad, Democrats = bad, Republicans = ?

I liked your comment but perhaps your comment fell a bit short? Warmongering = bad, zionist = bad, Democrats = bad, Republicans = ?

I liked your comment but perhaps your comment fell a bit short? Warmongering = bad, zionist = bad, Democrats = bad, Republicans = ?

I liked your comment but perhaps your comment fell a bit short? Warmongering = bad, zionist = bad, Democrats = bad, Republicans = ?

I liked your comment but perhaps your comment fell a bit short? Warmongering = bad, zionist = bad, Democrats = bad, Republicans = ?

I liked your comment but perhaps your comment fell a bit short? Warmongering = bad, zionist = bad, Democrats = bad, Republicans = ?

I liked your comment but perhaps your comment fell a bit short? Warmongering = bad, zionist = bad, Democrats = bad, Republicans = ?

I liked your comment but perhaps your comment fell a bit short? Warmongering = bad, zionist = bad, Democrats = bad, Republicans = ?

[...] was one of roughly 135 activists who participated in an act of civil disobedience that resulted in their arrests outside the White House yesterday, even as Obama was unveiling a new report on progress of the war [...]

If he wasn’t such a coward, he’d boycott this site that he hates so much.

But he is, so he won’t. He just wants to cry and whine and make everyone smell his diaper.

[...] 135 Anti-War Protesters Arrested outside the White House Hadn't hear anything about this on this side of the water. Had high hopes for Obama but I've been disappointed by his lack of progressive change especially on the international scene. As Barack Obama was unveiling a new report on the war in Afghanistan, a lineup of high-profile dissenters joined in an act of civil disobedience that ended with about 135 demonstrators being arrested outside the White House Thursday afternoon. Pulitzer-winner, ex-CIA analyst, FBI whistleblower among those arrested outside White House | Raw St… [...]

There have been hundreds of thousands in the streets, many many times. Like this demonstration, there was virtually no coverage in the corporate-government press. The vast majority opposed these wars before they began and the entire time they have continued. Marching in the streets makes us all feel better, but does virtually nothing to stop the wars. The marches need to lead somewhere, other than just to jail. How about surrounding the Pentagon, or Fox News?

Jonathan Inskeep
Crofton, Maryland
USA

There have been hundreds of thousands in the streets, many many times. Like this demonstration, there was virtually no coverage in the corporate-government press. The vast majority opposed these wars before they began and the entire time they have continued. Marching in the streets makes us all feel better, but does virtually nothing to stop the wars. The marches need to lead somewhere, other than just to jail. How about surrounding the Pentagon, or Fox News?

Jonathan Inskeep
Crofton, Maryland
USA

No. Effective subversives fight in such a way as to bring about the downfall of the oppressors. They don’t actually have to win; they just have be a sufficient catalyst to empower enough ordinary folks to rise up and force out the bad guys. Such a “war” may or may not utilize violence.

Look out your window. You’ll note that there is no urban warfare happening. Instead, current opposition is largely limited to the media and political spheres: opinion pieces, online commentary, mostly small-scale protests, and a smattering of cyber-vandalism.

You have no idea whether or not America has effective subversives because the fight has hardly begun. Indeed, it may never begin; and that may well be that you’re right. But at this point, no one can honestly know.

No. Effective subversives fight in such a way as to bring about the downfall of the oppressors. They don’t actually have to win; they just have be a sufficient catalyst to empower enough ordinary folks to rise up and force out the bad guys. Such a “war” may or may not utilize violence.

Look out your window. You’ll note that there is no urban warfare happening. Instead, current opposition is largely limited to the media and political spheres: opinion pieces, online commentary, mostly small-scale protests, and a smattering of cyber-vandalism.

You have no idea whether or not America has effective subversives because the fight has hardly begun. Indeed, it may never begin; and that may well be that you’re right. But at this point, no one can honestly know.

No. Effective subversives fight in such a way as to bring about the downfall of the oppressors. They don’t actually have to win; they just have be a sufficient catalyst to empower enough ordinary folks to rise up and force out the bad guys. Such a “war” may or may not utilize violence.

Look out your window. You’ll note that there is no urban warfare happening. Instead, current opposition is largely limited to the media and political spheres: opinion pieces, online commentary, mostly small-scale protests, and a smattering of cyber-vandalism.

You have no idea whether or not America has effective subversives because the fight has hardly begun. Indeed, it may never begin; and that may well be that you’re right. But at this point, no one can honestly know.

[...] http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/135-antiwar-protesters-arrested-white-house/ [...]

Yes. Everyone should read The Shock Doctrine. If you’ve got the time, next read No Logo.

Yes. Everyone should read The Shock Doctrine. If you’ve got the time, next read No Logo.

Yes. Everyone should read The Shock Doctrine. If you’ve got the time, next read No Logo.

Hmmm. Good point.
Things can turn on a dime….

Hmmm. Good point.
Things can turn on a dime….

Hmmm. Good point.
Things can turn on a dime….

[...] was one of roughly 135 activists who participated in an act of civil disobedience that resulted in their arrests outside the White House yesterday, even as Obama was unveiling a new report on progress of the war [...]

”Obama will only get 4 years, of blunders and tyranny and then we’ll have some real lunatic like Palin to finish off America for good. Pretty sad. ” QUOTE @ Neoconhater
yea thinking it best to make sure my kids learn Chinese at school or get them private lessons 20 years from now they will be the only superpower after they buy America and the bits of Europe that they don’t own already.
Only good thing will be at least the American Diet will improve and Journalism will be less censored, oh yea andwith a bit of luck TV will get better!

Gestapo tactics. Denunciation became a way of life. Opposition became a crime.

We are almost there. One more dumbo election, another Patriot Act tweak, and a few more supreme court rulings.

Every one is looking for other world apocalypses for 2012. Another win by the dumbo party, will be an apocalypse for the world.

[...] was one of roughly 135 activists who participated in an act of civil disobedience thatresulted in their arrests outside the White House yesterday, even as Obama was unveiling a new report on progress of the [...]

Pigeon English Ouchie. You don’t speak English, your the one bastardizing the language, if you have zero education and can’t tell a song being sung that’s your brain damage, not everyoine is a mindless worm spoon fed garbage. You vote Dembullshit or you vote Republican, show me the third choice and don’t tell me my daddies daddy aint no Nazi, cause you never met him, Jr. Spoon Fed idiot.

[...] Yesterday in DC, several of my former pals in VFP went and failed to march around a block with some signs.  This is encouraging!  For as long as VFP was fighting amongst themselves about Israel, parades or to what degree Obama was not as war criminalish as Bush…Vietghanistan, Iraq and PakiYemenstan did Drone on… [...]

Some contend he was always a Repubican but hid it well.

Every human expression should be used to resist the fascists. Don’t drive, just drink and raise hell.

Every human expression should be used to resist the fascists. Don’t drive, just drink and raise hell.

Welcome to Neo-Feudal Corporate America.

Exactly right. They also have the worlds last major gold deposits.

Right, we fought in Germany, Japan, and Korea, and we still have troops there 60 plus years later. While in the military I visited all three. Germany for war games for 2 months, I got to see the Berlin Wall before it fell. In South Korea for a year, and got to see the 38th Parallel, north of Seoul, and Japan to buy stereo equipment. Looking back, I must have been a glutton for punishment. Yes, the Military Industrial complex is colonial by its very nature.

That does sound a might more unpleasant than the last thing He was nailed to.

As soon as you see the word “Zionist,” you should disregard anything the commenter has to say.

Not that America <3 Israel isn't an issue, but The Great Zionist Conspiracy is bullshit.

As soon as you see the word “Zionist,” you should disregard anything the commenter has to say.

Not that America <3 Israel isn't an issue, but The Great Zionist Conspiracy is bullshit.

Oh its gonna take all kinds of things to for “We The People” to ever get power back to us. As many in the Streets all over this Broken Promised Land, along with General Strikes… even if that take not paying the rent or mortgage.

Well, I forwarded this to my list including Anne Feeney in Pittsburgh who wrote the song being sung at the 20 second mark in the first segment, Have you Been To Jail For Justice (then you’re a friend of mine)

Can we have an adult conversation about Zionism? Correct me if I’m wrong, but it’s my perception that Zionism is about exclusion… true or false? If it is, then conspiracy or not we should belly up to that and condemn it… Right?

The storm troopers are beginning their march.

[...] was one of roughly 135 activists who participated in an act of civil disobedience that resulted in their arrests outside the White House yesterday, even as Obama was unveiling a new report on progress of the war [...]

Well, how ’bout it Jonathan?

Is this the CHANGE we were supposed to be able to believe in!???

Is this the President who won a NOBEL PEACE PRIZE last year!????

Black or white, gay or straight – none of this matters. Neither does republican or democratic. It’s the rich vs. the poor – they have declared all out war. President Obama, any politician that believes in the democratic process, I hope you’re listening, because we’re totally screwed otherwise.

The only terrorists in america have titles and badges.

GrannyBGood -

Yeah they give those out like candy now. Totally worthless.

http://www.ae911truth.org ends wars

http://www.ae911truth.org ends wars

It is about time the leftist peaceniks woke up to Obama’s stupid lies. Obama is nothing but a liar from the very beginning as proven by the fact that he is owned by Goldman Sachs, BP, and the rest of Wall Street through donations to his campaign. End the war Mr. President.

It is about time the leftist peaceniks woke up to Obama’s stupid lies. Obama is nothing but a liar from the very beginning as proven by the fact that he is owned by Goldman Sachs, BP, and the rest of Wall Street through donations to his campaign. End the war Mr. President.

[...] Pulitzer-winner, ex-CIA analyst, FBI whistleblower among those arrested outside White House | Raw St…. December 17th, 2010 | Category: Uncategorized | Comments are closed | [...]

[...] was one of the 131 activists were arrested in an act of civil disobedience outside the White House yesterday, even as Obama was unveiling a new report citing progress in the [...]

The First Black President in Americas History!! What a Joke!!!
Hes the Ultimate Uncle Tom!!!

He’s either a republican in democratic clothing or he’s being blackmailed. That would be the only answer to the weird way of standing up to his party but letting the republicans do whatever they want.

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Have you ever read the novel? Uncle Tom was a figure of resistance.

Have you ever read the novel? Uncle Tom was a figure of resistance.

Have you ever read the novel? Uncle Tom was a figure of resistance.

Ah, then you were there?

(I assume you are American, based on your reply to neoconhater, in which you employ the pronoun ‘we’ in such way as appears you are seriously including yourself.)

Ah, then you were there?

(I assume you are American, based on your reply to neoconhater, in which you employ the pronoun ‘we’ in such way as appears you are seriously including yourself.)

Ah, then you were there?

(I assume you are American, based on your reply to neoconhater, in which you employ the pronoun ‘we’ in such way as appears you are seriously including yourself.)

Ah, then you were there?

(I assume you are American, based on your reply to neoconhater, in which you employ the pronoun ‘we’ in such way as appears you are seriously including yourself.)

Ah, then you were there?

(I assume you are American, based on your reply to neoconhater, in which you employ the pronoun ‘we’ in such way as appears you are seriously including yourself.)

[...] was one of the 131 activists were arrested in an act of civil disobedience outside the White House yesterday, even as Obama was unveiling a new report citing progress in the [...]

[...] was one of the 131 activists were arrested in an act of civil disobedience outside the White House yesterday, even as Obama was unveiling a new report citing progress in the [...]

what are they being arrested for?

Thanks to all those that participated. Why they were arrested I’ll never know. We need to replicate this across the entire country.

Yep.

uhh no rich people have declared war. they did that about 100 years ago when corporations won “personhood”

this is not a declaration of war. this is a “final battle movement” ie we are at the END of the war and we are NOT winning.

yes. we changed who is spending out money and where they spend it. Thats about the extent of the “change”

those kind of actions only work when they are done in SUCH MASSIVE NUMBERS that there is nothing they can do about it. Alas we lack even remotely close to that kind of commitment and organization and they work very hard to make sure we DON’T get that kind of organization.

hundreds of thousands is nothing. meaningless. to get any real change we need a quantity large enough that can not be ignored. that can not be arrested. than can not be “charged”

3% would be a good start might get some attention 10% would guarantee it. (of the entire population)

That is entirely possible however I try not to live in fear because that is what they really want.

I did hear about one case where what you said happened to anti war protestors in NY. Protestors were unlawfully detained at Pier 57.

“Guantanamo on the Hudson was a term coined during the Republican National Convention by a lawyer who, amongst 1000 other people, was detained in a facility by the New York City Police, in such conditions that he said that the city had created its “own little Guantanamo on the Hudson”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Republican_National_Convention_protest_activity

http://www.2600.com/rnc2004/index.html

current in incarcerated population is 1% to get any sort of attention we need to make it impossible to put us “into the system” that means a large enough number that no amount of trains or tractor trailers or “detentions” centers can hold people.

people need to be willing to die. so when they try to detain us we can say NO your option is to submit to us or shoot us.

if we can do that. If we can muster enough people to do this change will happen and it will SNOWBALL.

but I figure the MINIMUM number to make this work and only if its concentrated in a few states is 2%. ie 7 million people.

There is NOTHING they can do to “oppose” the will of 7 million people. The only way they can combat that is the very way they have already.

Dumb down the population. De Educate them. Make them sheeple. Make them into a nation unwilling to lay down their lives for their cause.

Because that IS what its going to take. You have to be willing to say NO we will not go quitely into the night. WE WILL resist and you will have to shoot us to stop us because we outnumber you 1000 to 1 (law enforcement military)

We have to remove ALL CHOICES from the table save 2. Capitulation of mass murder and even they would realize mass murder is instant death for them since the rest of the country and the MSM could not ignore that. it would snowball.

The fact that they only got arrested seems like progress. Over at Kent State, they just shot people dead. By the way…nobody has ever been arrested or prosecuted for the murders of those kids at Kent and that happened back on May 4th, 1970.

We have big piles of dirt under our American rugs!

Thank You. I believe the left has been successfully minimized if not almost totally eradicated.
Except here on Rawstory. :)

Thank You. I believe the left has been successfully minimized if not almost totally eradicated.
Except here on Rawstory. :)

duh?

duh?

wait lets racap here. 17 terrorists crash planes on US soil.

# of them from Iraq? 0
# of them from Saudi Arabia? 11
# of Taliban in Iraq Pre 9/11 ? 0

Country we invaded illegally? Iraq
Country we COULD have at least tried to have a legitimate reason to invade but did not? Saudi Arabia?

Seeing a trend here? if you think the war in iraq has ANYTHING to do with foreign terrorists your a moron.

wait lets racap here. 17 terrorists crash planes on US soil.

# of them from Iraq? 0
# of them from Saudi Arabia? 11
# of Taliban in Iraq Pre 9/11 ? 0

Country we invaded illegally? Iraq
Country we COULD have at least tried to have a legitimate reason to invade but did not? Saudi Arabia?

Seeing a trend here? if you think the war in iraq has ANYTHING to do with foreign terrorists your a moron.

To get the people into a war footing so they would not resist illegal legislation? CHECK
To spend an ass ton of money to corporate cronies? CHECK
To Invade an easy country that did nothing do us on 9/11 just because we can? CHECK
To KEEP the country on a war footing to reelect bush a second term? CHECK
To further keep the country on a war footing so we stay loyal? CHECK
To destroy the liberty our ancestors fought so hard for? Just about Done.

Yeah Mission Accomplished.

To get the people into a war footing so they would not resist illegal legislation? CHECK
To spend an ass ton of money to corporate cronies? CHECK
To Invade an easy country that did nothing do us on 9/11 just because we can? CHECK
To KEEP the country on a war footing to reelect bush a second term? CHECK
To further keep the country on a war footing so we stay loyal? CHECK
To destroy the liberty our ancestors fought so hard for? Just about Done.

Yeah Mission Accomplished.

To get the people into a war footing so they would not resist illegal legislation? CHECK
To spend an ass ton of money to corporate cronies? CHECK
To Invade an easy country that did nothing do us on 9/11 just because we can? CHECK
To KEEP the country on a war footing to reelect bush a second term? CHECK
To further keep the country on a war footing so we stay loyal? CHECK
To destroy the liberty our ancestors fought so hard for? Just about Done.

Yeah Mission Accomplished.

To get the people into a war footing so they would not resist illegal legislation? CHECK
To spend an ass ton of money to corporate cronies? CHECK
To Invade an easy country that did nothing do us on 9/11 just because we can? CHECK
To KEEP the country on a war footing to reelect bush a second term? CHECK
To further keep the country on a war footing so we stay loyal? CHECK
To destroy the liberty our ancestors fought so hard for? Just about Done.

Yeah Mission Accomplished.

Potentially pissing off President ASSHOLE! Can’t have a show of contempt of President ASSHOLE!

Potentially pissing off President ASSHOLE! Can’t have a show of contempt of President ASSHOLE!

uh excuse me but maybe we are reading different constitutions. I don’t recall PEACEFUL being a word used in that sentence.

uh excuse me but maybe we are reading different constitutions. I don’t recall PEACEFUL being a word used in that sentence.

Then why don’t you know that 135 was the number arrested – not the number attending?

Then why don’t you know that 135 was the number arrested – not the number attending?

Duh! They chained themselves to the White House fence. No one’s allowed to chain themselves to the White House fence. Everyone knows it, and the ones being arrested were basically asking to be arrested in an act of civil disobedience. That’s how it works.

What makes him an “Uncle Tom”? He’s the freakin’ President of the United States, NOT the President of all the African Americans. He can’t be focused on race as some within the African American community seem to want because that’s not what he’s there for. This is offensive, really it is.

Lies? What lies? He never lied once about Afghanistan during his whole campaign. He gave many speeches talking about how Afghanistan SHOULD have been our focus from the start while Iraq was a completely unnecessary boondoggle and we should leave – which is exactly what we’re doing. I really hate seeing stupid references to lies which never were spoken because the ones making the accusations never listened to what he actually said and are now too lazy to check out their assertions before posting them.

We’re not leaving Iraq, ever – with the world’s largest US base just installed. Say what you want about troop levels. I take that back – when the last drop of oil is gone, we’ll abandon the place and leave what’s left of the population to deal with the depleted uranium poisoning and ecological disaster left behind.
As far as promises – err, what about that closing of Guantanamo?, the end of torture?, the return of habeas corpus?, that health care exchange with a public option?, that annual report on the state of our energy future…? there are more
The system took any real intent of “change” he had (if that ever existed).. and mangled it to elite advantage or killed it altogether. It’s what our system does.
Nader called it right that Obama doesn’t have a history as a fighter for the people, but as a compromiser to power.

Here are a few links to some, shall we say, “broken promises”,(i think it sounds nicer than “lies”), by Obama. Granted, if we are keeping track by quantity, Obama does quite well comparatively. However, when we look at quality, Obama has broken his “campaign promises” that were most important to us, “we the people”.
http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/rulings/promise-broken/
http://questioningwithboldness.wordpress.com/2010/12/18/obamas-broken-campaign-promises/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/obamas-promises/?hpid=topnews
http://obamawatch.wikidot.com/

Here are a few links to some, shall we say, “broken promises”,(i think it sounds nicer than “lies”), by Obama. Granted, if we are keeping track by quantity, Obama does quite well comparatively. However, when we look at quality, Obama has broken his “campaign promises” that were most important to us, “we the people”.
http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/rulings/promise-broken/
http://questioningwithboldness.wordpress.com/2010/12/18/obamas-broken-campaign-promises/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/obamas-promises/?hpid=topnews
http://obamawatch.wikidot.com/

Here are a few links to some, shall we say, “broken promises”,(i think it sounds nicer than “lies”), by Obama. Granted, if we are keeping track by quantity, Obama does quite well comparatively. However, when we look at quality, Obama has broken his “campaign promises” that were most important to us, “we the people”.
http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/rulings/promise-broken/
http://questioningwithboldness.wordpress.com/2010/12/18/obamas-broken-campaign-promises/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/obamas-promises/?hpid=topnews
http://obamawatch.wikidot.com/

Here are a few links to some, shall we say, “broken promises”,(i think it sounds nicer than “lies”), by Obama. Granted, if we are keeping track by quantity, Obama does quite well comparatively. However, when we look at quality, Obama has broken his “campaign promises” that were most important to us, “we the people”.
http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/rulings/promise-broken/
http://questioningwithboldness.wordpress.com/2010/12/18/obamas-broken-campaign-promises/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/obamas-promises/?hpid=topnews
http://obamawatch.wikidot.com/

right on! John! there was recently proof that one of the national guard gave the order to fire!

right on! John! there was recently proof that one of the national guard gave the order to fire!

right on! John! there was recently proof that one of the national guard gave the order to fire!

right on! John! there was recently proof that one of the national guard gave the order to fire!

right on! John! there was recently proof that one of the national guard gave the order to fire!

„Als die Nazis die Kommunisten holten, habe ich geschwiegen; ich war ja kein Kommunist.
Als sie die Sozialdemokraten einsperrten, habe ich geschwiegen; ich war ja kein Sozialdemokrat.
Als sie die Gewerkschafter holten, habe ich nicht protestiert; ich war ja kein Gewerkschafter.
Als sie mich holten, gab es keinen mehr, der protestieren konnte.“

This administration has some ‘splainin’ to do as regards transparency (remember THAT??) and civil liberties, to name but two. You know, if you go on a date with the school, well, “W”, you can pretty much expect to be abused and mistreated, but when you go out with the school “Barry”, you ought to be able to expect to be charmed and, perhaps, even enlightened and finally treated with some respect. Well, looks like you two “boys” have quite a few ancestors in common.

I won’t go on. I suspect that it’s really just so much “pearls before swine” – no offense. ;-)

There are, however, two quotes that keep presenting themselves:

“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men’s bones and everything unclean.” (Matthew 23:27)
and
“I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that his justice cannot sleep forever.”
Thomas Jefferson

„Als die Nazis die Kommunisten holten, habe ich geschwiegen; ich war ja kein Kommunist.
Als sie die Sozialdemokraten einsperrten, habe ich geschwiegen; ich war ja kein Sozialdemokrat.
Als sie die Gewerkschafter holten, habe ich nicht protestiert; ich war ja kein Gewerkschafter.
Als sie mich holten, gab es keinen mehr, der protestieren konnte.“

This administration has some ‘splainin’ to do as regards transparency (remember THAT??) and civil liberties, to name but two. You know, if you go on a date with the school, well, “W”, you can pretty much expect to be abused and mistreated, but when you go out with the school “Barry”, you ought to be able to expect to be charmed and, perhaps, even enlightened and finally treated with some respect. Well, looks like you two “boys” have quite a few ancestors in common.

I won’t go on. I suspect that it’s really just so much “pearls before swine” – no offense. ;-)

There are, however, two quotes that keep presenting themselves:

“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men’s bones and everything unclean.” (Matthew 23:27)
and
“I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that his justice cannot sleep forever.”
Thomas Jefferson

„Als die Nazis die Kommunisten holten, habe ich geschwiegen; ich war ja kein Kommunist.
Als sie die Sozialdemokraten einsperrten, habe ich geschwiegen; ich war ja kein Sozialdemokrat.
Als sie die Gewerkschafter holten, habe ich nicht protestiert; ich war ja kein Gewerkschafter.
Als sie mich holten, gab es keinen mehr, der protestieren konnte.“

This administration has some ‘splainin’ to do as regards transparency (remember THAT??) and civil liberties, to name but two. You know, if you go on a date with the school, well, “W”, you can pretty much expect to be abused and mistreated, but when you go out with the school “Barry”, you ought to be able to expect to be charmed and, perhaps, even enlightened and finally treated with some respect. Well, looks like you two “boys” have quite a few ancestors in common.

I won’t go on. I suspect that it’s really just so much “pearls before swine” – no offense. ;-)

There are, however, two quotes that keep presenting themselves:

“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men’s bones and everything unclean.” (Matthew 23:27)
and
“I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that his justice cannot sleep forever.”
Thomas Jefferson

„Als die Nazis die Kommunisten holten, habe ich geschwiegen; ich war ja kein Kommunist.
Als sie die Sozialdemokraten einsperrten, habe ich geschwiegen; ich war ja kein Sozialdemokrat.
Als sie die Gewerkschafter holten, habe ich nicht protestiert; ich war ja kein Gewerkschafter.
Als sie mich holten, gab es keinen mehr, der protestieren konnte.“

This administration has some ‘splainin’ to do as regards transparency (remember THAT??) and civil liberties, to name but two. You know, if you go on a date with the school, well, “W”, you can pretty much expect to be abused and mistreated, but when you go out with the school “Barry”, you ought to be able to expect to be charmed and, perhaps, even enlightened and finally treated with some respect. Well, looks like you two “boys” have quite a few ancestors in common.

I won’t go on. I suspect that it’s really just so much “pearls before swine” – no offense. ;-)

There are, however, two quotes that keep presenting themselves:

“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men’s bones and everything unclean.” (Matthew 23:27)
and
“I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that his justice cannot sleep forever.”
Thomas Jefferson

„Als die Nazis die Kommunisten holten, habe ich geschwiegen; ich war ja kein Kommunist.
Als sie die Sozialdemokraten einsperrten, habe ich geschwiegen; ich war ja kein Sozialdemokrat.
Als sie die Gewerkschafter holten, habe ich nicht protestiert; ich war ja kein Gewerkschafter.
Als sie mich holten, gab es keinen mehr, der protestieren konnte.“

This administration has some ‘splainin’ to do as regards transparency (remember THAT??) and civil liberties, to name but two. You know, if you go on a date with the school, well, “W”, you can pretty much expect to be abused and mistreated, but when you go out with the school “Barry”, you ought to be able to expect to be charmed and, perhaps, even enlightened and finally treated with some respect. Well, looks like you two “boys” have quite a few ancestors in common.

I won’t go on. I suspect that it’s really just so much “pearls before swine” – no offense. ;-)

There are, however, two quotes that keep presenting themselves:

“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men’s bones and everything unclean.” (Matthew 23:27)
and
“I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that his justice cannot sleep forever.”
Thomas Jefferson

It is time we take to the streets en masse.

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HOW DO WE ORGANIZE A PROTEST? SHALL WE SET A DATE? HOW ABOUT THE STATE OF THE UNION, THAT SEEMS APPROPRIATE. WHAT IS THAT DAY AND AS ROGER WATERS SAYS “IS THERE ANYBODY OUT THERE?”

HOW DO WE ORGANIZE A PROTEST? SHALL WE SET A DATE? HOW ABOUT THE STATE OF THE UNION, THAT SEEMS APPROPRIATE. WHAT IS THAT DAY AND AS ROGER WATERS SAYS “IS THERE ANYBODY OUT THERE?”

We actually have to have compassion for those who are so blind they cannot see. That is how they live with themselves. They are morally and ethically blind. Weak in their inner core, needing approval from authority figures, narrow minded in that they cannot see the big picture and narcissistic because they don’t want to. Feeling of entitlement, feeling of class superiority, feeling the adrenaline surge of intoxicating power over human lives distancing themselves from reality. They fear us because they know we can look into their souls and see who they really are. Their eyes are dead, their smiles contrived, their movements automatic like a machine. Have pity for them. They have lost their humanity. You still have yours.

We actually have to have compassion for those who are so blind they cannot see. That is how they live with themselves. They are morally and ethically blind. Weak in their inner core, needing approval from authority figures, narrow minded in that they cannot see the big picture and narcissistic because they don’t want to. Feeling of entitlement, feeling of class superiority, feeling the adrenaline surge of intoxicating power over human lives distancing themselves from reality. They fear us because they know we can look into their souls and see who they really are. Their eyes are dead, their smiles contrived, their movements automatic like a machine. Have pity for them. They have lost their humanity. You still have yours.

We actually have to have compassion for those who are so blind they cannot see. That is how they live with themselves. They are morally and ethically blind. Weak in their inner core, needing approval from authority figures, narrow minded in that they cannot see the big picture and narcissistic because they don’t want to. Feeling of entitlement, feeling of class superiority, feeling the adrenaline surge of intoxicating power over human lives distancing themselves from reality. They fear us because they know we can look into their souls and see who they really are. Their eyes are dead, their smiles contrived, their movements automatic like a machine. Have pity for them. They have lost their humanity. You still have yours.

The game is rigged. You have to kill the system

The game is rigged. You have to kill the system

The game is rigged. You have to kill the system

Democrats ARE nazis….ZIONAZIS!

Democrats ARE nazis….ZIONAZIS!

Democrats ARE nazis….ZIONAZIS!

The system is rigged too. I don’t believe killing gets you where you want to be.

We’ve killed systems before. But the mold that slowly grows over everything remains.

You and I see this board differently, it’s true. At least you are one of the few who see the board.

You and I are separated by something akin to a whisper. Plenty to form an alliance on.

The system is rigged too. I don’t believe killing gets you where you want to be.

We’ve killed systems before. But the mold that slowly grows over everything remains.

You and I see this board differently, it’s true. At least you are one of the few who see the board.

You and I are separated by something akin to a whisper. Plenty to form an alliance on.

The system is rigged too. I don’t believe killing gets you where you want to be.

We’ve killed systems before. But the mold that slowly grows over everything remains.

You and I see this board differently, it’s true. At least you are one of the few who see the board.

You and I are separated by something akin to a whisper. Plenty to form an alliance on.

You don’t think cable will pick up some of it? I mean the approved parts of course.

You don’t think cable will pick up some of it? I mean the approved parts of course.

You don’t think cable will pick up some of it? I mean the approved parts of course.

Why no response to my follow-up query? ‘Good German’!

Why no response to my follow-up query? ‘Good German’!

Why no response to my follow-up query? ‘Good German’!

Because it’s the only place where he can be a complete asshole and insult people without getting the living fuck beat out of him.

Because it’s the only place where he can be a complete asshole and insult people without getting the living fuck beat out of him.

Believe it or not, this got great coverage in Canada on both CTV and CBC.

Believe it or not, this got great coverage in Canada on both CTV and CBC.

I was in Vietnam when Kent State went down. Read about it in Stars & Stripes when we came out of the field for a stand-down. I became anti-war the moment I read that & have remained so ever since.

John Kieffer
Member, Veterans for Peace
Tampa, FL

I was in Vietnam when Kent State went down. Read about it in Stars & Stripes when we came out of the field for a stand-down. I became anti-war the moment I read that & have remained so ever since.

John Kieffer
Member, Veterans for Peace
Tampa, FL

Very good point.

Very good point.

I met Ray McGovern at an anti-war rally in St. Petersburg, FL several years ago. Brilliant man, phenomenal speaker.

It will be shown that the real travesty of American history is that on Dec 16, 2010, Mr. McGovern was led away and arrested by police outside the White House while people like Bush & Cheney, who sat in that very White House, who lied to Congress and the American people to validate these wars, would never see the inside of a jail cell for their very real crimes that have cost almost 5,000 American lives.

John Kieffer
Veterans for Peace, Tampa

I met Ray McGovern at an anti-war rally in St. Petersburg, FL several years ago. Brilliant man, phenomenal speaker.

It will be shown that the real travesty of American history is that on Dec 16, 2010, Mr. McGovern was led away and arrested by police outside the White House while people like Bush & Cheney, who sat in that very White House, who lied to Congress and the American people to validate these wars, would never see the inside of a jail cell for their very real crimes that have cost almost 5,000 American lives.

John Kieffer
Veterans for Peace, Tampa

Anyone who believes this president is not manipulated by the military industrial complex is foolishly mistaken. These protests by those patriots are the wind in Obama’s sail to be used to end the US military incursion in Afganistan. By the way, the greatest military in history and it’s been how many years and how many billions and we are still trying to locate bin Laden. Somebody please tell me is the guy really that illusive or is something else going on?

Anyone who believes this president is not manipulated by the military industrial complex is foolishly mistaken. These protests by those patriots are the wind in Obama’s sail to be used to end the US military incursion in Afganistan. By the way, the greatest military in history and it’s been how many years and how many billions and we are still trying to locate bin Laden. Somebody please tell me is the guy really that illusive or is something else going on?

Anyone who believes this president is not manipulated by the military industrial complex is foolishly mistaken. These protests by those patriots are the wind in Obama’s sail to be used to end the US military incursion in Afganistan. By the way, the greatest military in history and it’s been how many years and how many billions and we are still trying to locate bin Laden. Somebody please tell me is the guy really that illusive or is something else going on?

Anyone who believes this president is not manipulated by the military industrial complex is foolishly mistaken. These protests by those patriots are the wind in Obama’s sail to be used to end the US military incursion in Afganistan. By the way, the greatest military in history and it’s been how many years and how many billions and we are still trying to locate bin Laden. Somebody please tell me is the guy really that illusive or is something else going on?

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New World Oderstan. Rise when you see the country’s corporate flag and tremble when you encounter their armed forces. buy their products go home and listen to their propoganda presented as news. and wait until the national security teams show up at your door and arrest you for speaking your mind online. Hagelvaterland

New World Oderstan. Rise when you see the country’s corporate flag and tremble when you encounter their armed forces. buy their products go home and listen to their propoganda presented as news. and wait until the national security teams show up at your door and arrest you for speaking your mind online. Hagelvaterland

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Welcome to Amerika sheep! The global elite create and fund so called fake boogeymen such as the CIA asset Osama Bin Laden aka Tim Osman..put that name in a search engine and you’ll see. What fools the American sheep are! They think there’s a difference in the left and the right..locked into that false paradigm while the puppets in the “district of criminals” dance to the Satanic cabal who controls them and help destroy this once great Republic! Death to the New World Order!

Welcome to Amerika sheep! The global elite create and fund so called fake boogeymen such as the CIA asset Osama Bin Laden aka Tim Osman..put that name in a search engine and you’ll see. What fools the American sheep are! They think there’s a difference in the left and the right..locked into that false paradigm while the puppets in the “district of criminals” dance to the Satanic cabal who controls them and help destroy this once great Republic! Death to the New World Order!

Obama is no better than Bush, maybe worse. Bush might have been mislead by those who advised him…like members on his staff who were also members of the Project for a New America group..who have been intent on invading Iraq long before 9/11. BUT, Obama’s staff knows better..even if Obama doesn’t. They know that the wars are not winnable…and those in the US Military who have died in Iraq and Afghanistan have died in vain.

No mention of the current occupant of the WH, who is continuing what was started by Bush and Cheney? Have you noticed that the killing of civilians by drones is nearly a daily thing…and the use of predatory drones has increased from 30 -50 to over 700?

No mention of the current occupant of the WH, who is continuing what was started by Bush and Cheney? Have you noticed that the killing of civilians by drones is nearly a daily thing…and the use of predatory drones has increased from 30 -50 to over 700?

Had me going up to “Satanic cabal” LOL!

Riiigghhttt… it’s the work of agents of an invisible supernatural being…. I SEE! Please, oh please, tell me MORE!!!!

Had me going up to “Satanic cabal” LOL!

Riiigghhttt… it’s the work of agents of an invisible supernatural being…. I SEE! Please, oh please, tell me MORE!!!!

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I see that too. I’m glad we’re on the same side :)

Me too. I hate the game. Just remember the last part of that old saying though, and stay safe.

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