Oh darn, now it’s out there. It’s not a crime to find out what your government is doing.

Oh darn, now it’s out there. It’s not a crime to find out what your government is doing.

Oh darn, now it’s out there. It’s not a crime to find out what your government is doing.

Thank you John Conyers, for speaking truth and law.

Thank you John Conyers, for speaking truth and law.

Thank you John Conyers, for speaking truth and law.

Conyers:

“There is no doubt that WikiLeaks is very unpopular right now”

Where you’ve got the “Survey” for that rating. Pentagon, MSM, CIA (All of them)?

As as i know he is the “Man of the Year”.

Good for Conyers to stay calm during the hoopla.

Most Democrats are IDIOTS and will tilt with the wind (remember the authorization for Bush to invade Iraq? The Patriot Act? The Crime Bill of 1999?)

Thank God, not everyone in Washington has drunk the Kool-aid, laced with some unknown political toxin. I heard yesterday, that my senator, Jeff Bingaman was one of the 19 senators to vote against the tax bill compromise for the super rich. If only more powerful voices start to rebel against the status-quo there may still be hope. Washington is broken and the secret cables attest to this.

Take it to the mat, John – let all real liberals and real conservatives, all protectors of human liberty, join you to take a stand on this against the oligarchs and their neoconlib dogs.

Sanest guy in an insane town. He actually thinks American ideals are worth something, unlike the GOPosaurs who are intent on goose-stepping.

This is a classic case of shooting the messenger. Americans have the right to know what our government is doing in our name and how our resources are being spent. Julian Assange didn’t “steal” secrets, he just made the information provided to him by others available to everyone. Even took the extra care to ask the government if they would like to review the info before he released it (which they declined). I think Conyers is absolutely correct. Free speech trumps everything, AND the people (that’s us folks) have the right to KNOW!

They love the Goose Step…

Envious as Hell that Hitler invented it first.

They love the Goose Step…

Envious as Hell that Hitler invented it first.

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This article, like many others, misrepresents what occurred in the case of Daniel Ellsberg.

The “leak of the Pentagon Papers” was never “upheld as constitutional by the Supreme Court in the 1971 case New York Times Co. v. United States.” That case was not about leaking classified information; it was about publishing it.

Here and elsewhere the actions of the New York Times and the actions of Daniel Ellberg are being conflated to trick readers into thinking that the Supreme court somehow ruled that Ellsberg’s activities (leaks) were Constitutionally protected. That is simply not what happened.

What the Times did and what Daniel did are two completely different things. Ellberg was not acquitted and vindicated because he had a right to leak classified documents. He was acquitted and vindicated because he proved that the U.S. government had conspired to deny him a fair trial.

This article, like many others, misrepresents what occurred in the case of Daniel Ellsberg.

The “leak of the Pentagon Papers” was never “upheld as constitutional by the Supreme Court in the 1971 case New York Times Co. v. United States.” That case was not about leaking classified information; it was about publishing it.

Here and elsewhere the actions of the New York Times and the actions of Daniel Ellberg are being conflated to trick readers into thinking that the Supreme court somehow ruled that Ellsberg’s activities (leaks) were Constitutionally protected. That is simply not what happened.

What the Times did and what Daniel did are two completely different things. Ellberg was not acquitted and vindicated because he had a right to leak classified documents. He was acquitted and vindicated because he proved that the U.S. government had conspired to deny him a fair trial.

This article, like many others, misrepresents what occurred in the case of Daniel Ellsberg.

The “leak of the Pentagon Papers” was never “upheld as constitutional by the Supreme Court in the 1971 case New York Times Co. v. United States.” That case was not about leaking classified information; it was about publishing it.

Here and elsewhere the actions of the New York Times and the actions of Daniel Ellberg are being conflated to trick readers into thinking that the Supreme court somehow ruled that Ellsberg’s activities (leaks) were Constitutionally protected. That is simply not what happened.

What the Times did and what Daniel did are two completely different things. Ellberg was not acquitted and vindicated because he had a right to leak classified documents. He was acquitted and vindicated because he proved that the U.S. government had conspired to deny him a fair trial.

This article, like many others, misrepresents what occurred in the case of Daniel Ellsberg.

The “leak of the Pentagon Papers” was never “upheld as constitutional by the Supreme Court in the 1971 case New York Times Co. v. United States.” That case was not about leaking classified information; it was about publishing it.

Here and elsewhere the actions of the New York Times and the actions of Daniel Ellberg are being conflated to trick readers into thinking that the Supreme court somehow ruled that Ellsberg’s activities (leaks) were Constitutionally protected. That is simply not what happened.

What the Times did and what Daniel did are two completely different things. Ellberg was not acquitted and vindicated because he had a right to leak classified documents. He was acquitted and vindicated because he proved that the U.S. government had conspired to deny him a fair trial.

Well done and very true. sadly new laws will be created just to take down all those that oppose the machine and it’s hidden workings.Odd not to see the radical republican post here about assange being a brutal rapist for not wearing a condom? Oh well the day is young still, and republicans and tea baggers have only begone to abolish freedoms so many died for. I pray I never see the day where you would be jailed or executed for railing against the machine and it’s cogs.

Well done and very true. sadly new laws will be created just to take down all those that oppose the machine and it’s hidden workings.Odd not to see the radical republican post here about assange being a brutal rapist for not wearing a condom? Oh well the day is young still, and republicans and tea baggers have only begone to abolish freedoms so many died for. I pray I never see the day where you would be jailed or executed for railing against the machine and it’s cogs.

Well done and very true. sadly new laws will be created just to take down all those that oppose the machine and it’s hidden workings.Odd not to see the radical republican post here about assange being a brutal rapist for not wearing a condom? Oh well the day is young still, and republicans and tea baggers have only begone to abolish freedoms so many died for. I pray I never see the day where you would be jailed or executed for railing against the machine and it’s cogs.

Well done and very true. sadly new laws will be created just to take down all those that oppose the machine and it’s hidden workings.Odd not to see the radical republican post here about assange being a brutal rapist for not wearing a condom? Oh well the day is young still, and republicans and tea baggers have only begone to abolish freedoms so many died for. I pray I never see the day where you would be jailed or executed for railing against the machine and it’s cogs.

TSA wants to make this uncomfortable so that you will just give in and opt-in for the body scan instead. Do they have wallet size pics?

TSA wants to make this uncomfortable so that you will just give in and opt-in for the body scan instead. Do they have wallet size pics?

TSA wants to make this uncomfortable so that you will just give in and opt-in for the body scan instead. Do they have wallet size pics?

TSA wants to make this uncomfortable so that you will just give in and opt-in for the body scan instead. Do they have wallet size pics?

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A good litmus test to see exactly who the real bastards are is to take a look at who is calling Julian Assange a traitor and who is trying to concoct a “crime” to charge him with.

Wikileaks has not revealed anything that has endangered or threatened to endanger a single American soldier. None of the leaks reveal any sensitive tactical information, such as battlefield targets or the times and places of planned ambushes or anything like that. The revelations do something far more dangerous to the military industrial complex: They threaten to undermine the very war itself, with all its associated graft and lucrative contracts.

Remember how the Pentagon wanted to suppress the photos of dead American servicemen being shipped home in military cargo planes? Did you notice how quickly the Obama administration squashed the release of the rest of the Abu Ghraib photos, presumably of broken Iraqi prisoners being tortured by dogs and taunted by girl soldiers? The “national security” and “family privacy” excuses that the pentagon gave to justify the suppression of this stuff were weak. What they were really afraid of was turning the American public against the war. They remember what happened to their little adventure in Vietnam. They don’t want it to happen again.

Show me a pompous politician spouting off about the treasonous Assange and I will show you an evil, soulless, warmongering bastard.

A good litmus test to see exactly who the real bastards are is to take a look at who is calling Julian Assange a traitor and who is trying to concoct a “crime” to charge him with.

Wikileaks has not revealed anything that has endangered or threatened to endanger a single American soldier. None of the leaks reveal any sensitive tactical information, such as battlefield targets or the times and places of planned ambushes or anything like that. The revelations do something far more dangerous to the military industrial complex: They threaten to undermine the very war itself, with all its associated graft and lucrative contracts.

Remember how the Pentagon wanted to suppress the photos of dead American servicemen being shipped home in military cargo planes? Did you notice how quickly the Obama administration squashed the release of the rest of the Abu Ghraib photos, presumably of broken Iraqi prisoners being tortured by dogs and taunted by girl soldiers? The “national security” and “family privacy” excuses that the pentagon gave to justify the suppression of this stuff were weak. What they were really afraid of was turning the American public against the war. They remember what happened to their little adventure in Vietnam. They don’t want it to happen again.

Show me a pompous politician spouting off about the treasonous Assange and I will show you an evil, soulless, warmongering bastard.

A good litmus test to see exactly who the real bastards are is to take a look at who is calling Julian Assange a traitor and who is trying to concoct a “crime” to charge him with.

Wikileaks has not revealed anything that has endangered or threatened to endanger a single American soldier. None of the leaks reveal any sensitive tactical information, such as battlefield targets or the times and places of planned ambushes or anything like that. The revelations do something far more dangerous to the military industrial complex: They threaten to undermine the very war itself, with all its associated graft and lucrative contracts.

Remember how the Pentagon wanted to suppress the photos of dead American servicemen being shipped home in military cargo planes? Did you notice how quickly the Obama administration squashed the release of the rest of the Abu Ghraib photos, presumably of broken Iraqi prisoners being tortured by dogs and taunted by girl soldiers? The “national security” and “family privacy” excuses that the pentagon gave to justify the suppression of this stuff were weak. What they were really afraid of was turning the American public against the war. They remember what happened to their little adventure in Vietnam. They don’t want it to happen again.

Show me a pompous politician spouting off about the treasonous Assange and I will show you an evil, soulless, warmongering bastard.

A good litmus test to see exactly who the real bastards are is to take a look at who is calling Julian Assange a traitor and who is trying to concoct a “crime” to charge him with.

Wikileaks has not revealed anything that has endangered or threatened to endanger a single American soldier. None of the leaks reveal any sensitive tactical information, such as battlefield targets or the times and places of planned ambushes or anything like that. The revelations do something far more dangerous to the military industrial complex: They threaten to undermine the very war itself, with all its associated graft and lucrative contracts.

Remember how the Pentagon wanted to suppress the photos of dead American servicemen being shipped home in military cargo planes? Did you notice how quickly the Obama administration squashed the release of the rest of the Abu Ghraib photos, presumably of broken Iraqi prisoners being tortured by dogs and taunted by girl soldiers? The “national security” and “family privacy” excuses that the pentagon gave to justify the suppression of this stuff were weak. What they were really afraid of was turning the American public against the war. They remember what happened to their little adventure in Vietnam. They don’t want it to happen again.

Show me a pompous politician spouting off about the treasonous Assange and I will show you an evil, soulless, warmongering bastard.

A good litmus test to see exactly who the real bastards are is to take a look at who is calling Julian Assange a traitor and who is trying to concoct a “crime” to charge him with.

Wikileaks has not revealed anything that has endangered or threatened to endanger a single American soldier. None of the leaks reveal any sensitive tactical information, such as battlefield targets or the times and places of planned ambushes or anything like that. The revelations do something far more dangerous to the military industrial complex: They threaten to undermine the very war itself, with all its associated graft and lucrative contracts.

Remember how the Pentagon wanted to suppress the photos of dead American servicemen being shipped home in military cargo planes? Did you notice how quickly the Obama administration squashed the release of the rest of the Abu Ghraib photos, presumably of broken Iraqi prisoners being tortured by dogs and taunted by girl soldiers? The “national security” and “family privacy” excuses that the pentagon gave to justify the suppression of this stuff were weak. What they were really afraid of was turning the American public against the war. They remember what happened to their little adventure in Vietnam. They don’t want it to happen again.

Show me a pompous politician spouting off about the treasonous Assange and I will show you an evil, soulless, warmongering bastard.

A good litmus test to see exactly who the real bastards are is to take a look at who is calling Julian Assange a traitor and who is trying to concoct a “crime” to charge him with.

Wikileaks has not revealed anything that has endangered or threatened to endanger a single American soldier. None of the leaks reveal any sensitive tactical information, such as battlefield targets or the times and places of planned ambushes or anything like that. The revelations do something far more dangerous to the military industrial complex: They threaten to undermine the very war itself, with all its associated graft and lucrative contracts.

Remember how the Pentagon wanted to suppress the photos of dead American servicemen being shipped home in military cargo planes? Did you notice how quickly the Obama administration squashed the release of the rest of the Abu Ghraib photos, presumably of broken Iraqi prisoners being tortured by dogs and taunted by girl soldiers? The “national security” and “family privacy” excuses that the pentagon gave to justify the suppression of this stuff were weak. What they were really afraid of was turning the American public against the war. They remember what happened to their little adventure in Vietnam. They don’t want it to happen again.

Show me a pompous politician spouting off about the treasonous Assange and I will show you an evil, soulless, warmongering bastard.

A good litmus test to see exactly who the real bastards are is to take a look at who is calling Julian Assange a traitor and who is trying to concoct a “crime” to charge him with.

Wikileaks has not revealed anything that has endangered or threatened to endanger a single American soldier. None of the leaks reveal any sensitive tactical information, such as battlefield targets or the times and places of planned ambushes or anything like that. The revelations do something far more dangerous to the military industrial complex: They threaten to undermine the very war itself, with all its associated graft and lucrative contracts.

Remember how the Pentagon wanted to suppress the photos of dead American servicemen being shipped home in military cargo planes? Did you notice how quickly the Obama administration squashed the release of the rest of the Abu Ghraib photos, presumably of broken Iraqi prisoners being tortured by dogs and taunted by girl soldiers? The “national security” and “family privacy” excuses that the pentagon gave to justify the suppression of this stuff were weak. What they were really afraid of was turning the American public against the war. They remember what happened to their little adventure in Vietnam. They don’t want it to happen again.

Show me a pompous politician spouting off about the treasonous Assange and I will show you an evil, soulless, warmongering bastard.

A good litmus test to see exactly who the real bastards are is to take a look at who is calling Julian Assange a traitor and who is trying to concoct a “crime” to charge him with.

Wikileaks has not revealed anything that has endangered or threatened to endanger a single American soldier. None of the leaks reveal any sensitive tactical information, such as battlefield targets or the times and places of planned ambushes or anything like that. The revelations do something far more dangerous to the military industrial complex: They threaten to undermine the very war itself, with all its associated graft and lucrative contracts.

Remember how the Pentagon wanted to suppress the photos of dead American servicemen being shipped home in military cargo planes? Did you notice how quickly the Obama administration squashed the release of the rest of the Abu Ghraib photos, presumably of broken Iraqi prisoners being tortured by dogs and taunted by girl soldiers? The “national security” and “family privacy” excuses that the pentagon gave to justify the suppression of this stuff were weak. What they were really afraid of was turning the American public against the war. They remember what happened to their little adventure in Vietnam. They don’t want it to happen again.

Show me a pompous politician spouting off about the treasonous Assange and I will show you an evil, soulless, warmongering bastard.

Wow, John Conyers speaks. You see, buddy Conyers sort of did the capitulation cha-cha after he’d said he was going after Bushco. So now Conyers gonna stick up for Wikileaks and Julian Assange?
Golly Conyers, where’ve you been?

Wow, John Conyers speaks. You see, buddy Conyers sort of did the capitulation cha-cha after he’d said he was going after Bushco. So now Conyers gonna stick up for Wikileaks and Julian Assange?
Golly Conyers, where’ve you been?

Wow, John Conyers speaks. You see, buddy Conyers sort of did the capitulation cha-cha after he’d said he was going after Bushco. So now Conyers gonna stick up for Wikileaks and Julian Assange?
Golly Conyers, where’ve you been?

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Some one without a vendetta, and hopefully Conyers will seek the truth, nothing but the truth, so help him god.

Some one without a vendetta, and hopefully Conyers will seek the truth, nothing but the truth, so help him god.

Some one without a vendetta, and hopefully Conyers will seek the truth, nothing but the truth, so help him god.

Some one without a vendetta, and hopefully Conyers will seek the truth, nothing but the truth, so help him god.

I commend Congressmen Conyers for his defense of Wikileaks, but once he goes after Bush’s cronies, then he’ll regain my full respect.

I commend Congressmen Conyers for his defense of Wikileaks, but once he goes after Bush’s cronies, then he’ll regain my full respect.

I commend Congressmen Conyers for his defense of Wikileaks, but once he goes after Bush’s cronies, then he’ll regain my full respect.

I commend Congressmen Conyers for his defense of Wikileaks, but once he goes after Bush’s cronies, then he’ll regain my full respect.

The Pentagon Papers case showed that the people have a right to know what their government is doing. The people in Cambodia and Laos sure as hell knew that they were being bombed. The only people being fooled were US citizens.

The Pentagon Papers case showed that the people have a right to know what their government is doing. The people in Cambodia and Laos sure as hell knew that they were being bombed. The only people being fooled were US citizens.

The Pentagon Papers case showed that the people have a right to know what their government is doing. The people in Cambodia and Laos sure as hell knew that they were being bombed. The only people being fooled were US citizens.

The Pentagon Papers case showed that the people have a right to know what their government is doing. The people in Cambodia and Laos sure as hell knew that they were being bombed. The only people being fooled were US citizens.

The Pentagon Papers case showed that the people have a right to know what their government is doing. The people in Cambodia and Laos sure as hell knew that they were being bombed. The only people being fooled were US citizens.

The Pentagon Papers case showed that the people have a right to know what their government is doing. The people in Cambodia and Laos sure as hell knew that they were being bombed. The only people being fooled were US citizens.

The republicons are envious as Heil Hitler invented it.

The republicons are envious as Heil Hitler invented it.

The republicons are envious as Heil Hitler invented it.

Democrats are stupid. Conyers is the outgoing chairman, and you can bet his republican replacement won’t take the same position. The republican noise machine will turn this issue into another gound zero mosque, going forward to 2012. The democrats have already handed the republicans a larger and increasing annual budget deficit going foward to 2012. With the reduction in the payroll social security tax, large numbers of baby boomers expected to go on ss, and high unemployment, already depleting the ss revenue stream, the republicans will have a field day. The democrats are using water pistols and the republicans are using real guns. Democrats will be extinct soon.

They came first for the Communists,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew.

Then they came for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up.

- Pastor Martin Niemöller

And it shows the intelligence of those calling Julian Assange a traitor. He is not an American therefore can not be a traitor.

I didn’t see anybody say the leak was “constitutional”.

If you’re from New Mexico, then both your senators voted against that bill. And good on them. Also happened in Oregon with Wyden and Merkley..

And good on Conyers as well for his stand on Julian Assange deeds.

I have been curious for some time as to why they do not yet give the Heil Salute?

Could it be that they only await a new Leader from their own Party?

Very, very commendable of Conyers. Let’s just hope that Mr. Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee is in a position in which he can stop the witch hunt. Somehow, I seriously doubt it though.

U.S. Tries to Build Case for Conspiracy by WikiLeaks

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/16/world/16wiki.html?emc=na

Since WikiLeaks began making public large caches of classified United States government documents this year, Justice Department officials have been struggling to come up with a way to charge Mr. Assange with a crime. Among other things, they have studied several statutes that criminalize the dissemination of restricted information under certain circumstances, including the Espionage Act of 1917 and the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act of 1986.

Last week, Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. said he had just authorized investigators to take “significant” steps, declining to specify them. This week, one of Mr. Assange’s lawyers in Britain said they had “heard from Swedish authorities there has been a secretly impaneled grand jury” in northern Virginia.

I’m quoting the article. So are you.

The conservatives, who are supposed to be opposed to “big government,” are out in front calling for Assange’s head. Hypocrites.

The conservatives, who are supposed to be opposed to “big government,” are out in front calling for Assange’s head. Hypocrites.

The conservatives, who are supposed to be opposed to “big government,” are out in front calling for Assange’s head. Hypocrites.

I just called the congressman’s DC office to thank him for the support of our civil liberties. Anybody who has a spare moment should do the same. It is important for those who stick their necks out like this to know they have the support of the people.

* Washington Office: 202-225-5126
* Detroit Office: 313-961-5670
* Trenton / Downriver Office: 734-675-4084

I just called the congressman’s DC office to thank him for the support of our civil liberties. Anybody who has a spare moment should do the same. It is important for those who stick their necks out like this to know they have the support of the people.

* Washington Office: 202-225-5126
* Detroit Office: 313-961-5670
* Trenton / Downriver Office: 734-675-4084

I just called the congressman’s DC office to thank him for the support of our civil liberties. Anybody who has a spare moment should do the same. It is important for those who stick their necks out like this to know they have the support of the people.

* Washington Office: 202-225-5126
* Detroit Office: 313-961-5670
* Trenton / Downriver Office: 734-675-4084

Thank you Chairman Conyers, and thanks to those valiant protesters in London, Italy and Athens, and our sympathies to those peaceful protesters in the Ivory Coast who were set upon by police assassins.

And for a quick timeline review of this matter:

August/2010 A warrant for Assange is issued by the Swedish Prosecution Authority.

August/2010 The law firm of Borgstrom and Bodstrom quickly volunteer to represent the two accusers, Anna Ardin and Sofia Wilen.

Thomas Bodstrom, former Justice Minister, has an interesting background: he came under investigation four times by Sweden’s constitutional committee while Justice Minister after arresting members of the Pirate Bay file-sharing operation. He was also instrumental in pushing through the EU’s data retention directive.

And here’s an interesting quote on the attorney Bodstrom:

“Thomas Bodström will be remembered as the minister of justice who flushed the Swedes’ civil rights down the head. He wants to eavesdrop on people who aren’t even suspected of criminal activity, he wants to monitor all computer traffic, he wants to read all your email, he wants to store your telephone calls, and he wants to remove the prohibition against using the military against civilians.”
– Anna Sjödin January 2006

[Anna Ardin is, or was, the political secretary and press officer for the Swedish Brotherhood Movement. Also a member: Thomas Bodstrom.

It was the Social Democrat Party that invited Assange to speak on its behalf at an event in Stockholm that month. Ardin had arranged Assange's travel for the event.

At the very beginning of the Assange investigation, and during it, details were illegally leaked to the tabloid, Expressen, owned by the Bonnier family. Attorney Claes Borgström’s two sisters, Annette Kullenberg and Kerstin Vinterhed, both work for Bonnier family newspapers, and Anna Ardin happened to intern at the publication, GT, also owned by the Bonnier family, by way of Expressen.]

November/2010 Par Nuder, former co-cabinet member with Thomas Bodstrom, and former adviser at one time to Bodstrom, is hired as a director at Madeliine Albright’s international lobbyist firm, Albright Stonebridge Group. (Certainly one might suspect Madam Albright having worries about possible leaked State Department cables and how they could reflect upon her.)

November/2010 Thomas Bodstrom travels to USA.

December/2010 Within moments after the announcement that Assange will be granted bail, we hear from the USA Attorney General, Eric Holder (with a background defending corporate assassins and mercenaries), that the American Justice Department will be taking legal action against BP and other companies.

[Now we know from those Wikileaked cables (and other past sources, of course), that the US government, British government, and others, have been pressured by the oil companies in their diplomatic activities. We also know that the US government has acted to compromise foreign legal systems. Could this be a situation were the US government is either acting to pressure the UK to allow the Swedish extradition of Assange?

Or the Americans are actually acting on behalf of BP, to appear to be pressuring the UK?]

In the same Olof Palme Centre which houses the offices of the Social Democrat Party, one also finds nearby the offices of the National Endowment for Democracy. (the N.E.D. just happens to be funded by the US government, and was set up by President Reagan in 1983 as a civilian extension to covert activities overseas.)

“Leave no authority existing not responsible to the people.”
Thomas Jefferson

‘the controversial actions of the anti-secrecy outlet’ ?

Oh please Raw Story.

It’s only controversial in the eyes of people that want to hide their lies.

Conyers better go buy a big box of pens. After January he can start writing those stern letters again..

Just the same crime every News Organization Commits Every Day, except Sunday, or Saturday depending on the Calender.

I don’t know what planet you come from boy, but I like the way you think!

Thank you! I’m from a small European planet !

Aeyah. It’s a regular mass awakening, I am seeing before my eyes.

Cattle. Just one example for the masses, here called called “Targeted Killings: How the Global Criminal Elite Draft Laws In Front Of You While You Chase Shadows” or “The UN and Dan a Love Story”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Targeted_killing

You think the Constitution of Whitie is scary read the Geneva Convention. (just pick a Global Treaty or Two, planets run by thugs)

http://www.icrc.org/eng/war-and-law/treaties-customary-law/geneva-conventions/index.jsp

Thomas Jefferson couldn’t have said it better. Well, maybe he could have…but John Conyers gets an A in the class.

DAMN HUMANS

DAMN HUMANS

DAMN HUMANS

DAMN HUMANS

It is behind one man, that millions rise. The potential of energy is the key to lift matter.

Even the mythology has a methodology.

It is behind one man, that millions rise. The potential of energy is the key to lift matter.

Even the mythology has a methodology.

It is behind one man, that millions rise. The potential of energy is the key to lift matter.

Even the mythology has a methodology.

It is behind one man, that millions rise. The potential of energy is the key to lift matter.

Even the mythology has a methodology.

The only people that “needed” to be fooled were…

rinse and repeat.

It’s all starting to make sense now isn’t it. I mean I don’t know when My country is doing Evil, but I know when Every Other Country is doing Evil. And That sb ecause I LIvE There and get it”S MEdia.. …. . … . …. …. … —

This might not be a Democrat/Republican deal. Two of the loudest voices against WikiLeaks are Lieberman and Feinstein, while Ron Paul is defending Assange (“We need more WikiLeaks”). Really, it’s about establishment politicians (no libertarians need apply) vs. those who see government as a dangerous enemy.

The longer someone is in Washington, the more entrenched he or she becomes in the culture. Don’t tell a Lieberman, a Hatch, a Feinstein, or a Schumer that government needs outside watchdogs. They don’t believe it. So along comes Julian Assange, and they feel threatened. We’re supposed to “trust them to do what’s right.” Assange doesn’t, nor do I.

Hidey Ho neighbor

Amen.

Think for yourself. Question authority. In all it’s many in all it’s forms. All seek you now but truth… yah you know the rest.

Time for some brain sand. Get those little crystals dancing.

The calls for criminal prosecution should make Rep. Conyers uncomfortable. A self-righteous arrogance has been growing in this country like a terminal cancer that is pushing us to emulate the tactics of despots and totalitarian regimes. If you want an example, just read the writings of torture apologist Charles Krauthammer or listen to the propaganda spouted off in the right-wing echo chamber.

Those calling for criminal prosecution better take a long hard look in the mirror and then take a look at what they are doing to this country. If they want to assign blame, they better look at the lousy security they had in place that allowed this information to leak out in the first place.

The right to bear arms was given to the people to protect the truth. To protect the Libraries then have thus burned to the ground. Judges, Ideals… Those came long after truth.

Gifts by asshole in Greece and Athens.

Conyers is a fraud

. . . and a coward

I don’t trust any of them. Except for Ron Paul, they are all globalists, which means they do not give a hoot about human rights.

Ideal is a mutation of Idea. An Idea builds a bridge and if it is left in the hands of the stupid it becomes a lie. If that lie falls to criminals it becomes evil.

You see nothing real, once it is reflected. Not to mention Up Side down.
As Above so Below

It is pretty funny looking.

To Young Still, Not PerFected.

NYAH! Take THAT, Global Corpocracy!!! Good to see someone with INTELLIGENCE making a good decision.

Keep you head down then and best of luck, I hope the bullets miss you guys this time too. Cheers, I’m ducking.

So what if he is, he’s right about this one.

Is Wikileaks really that unpopular? To me it seems the ones condemning them are mostly people in power who have good reason to be a little uneasy about their lies and crimes being exposed. Personally I’m inspired and hopeful. Truth and transparency is the last best hope we have to turn this country away from total corporate control. I can’t wait for the big bank documents being released!

What is this “free speech” about which this man is speaking? I’ve seen it referenced elsewhere, but I can’t get my head around this abstract idea. Can someone point me to an example?

Give Conyers a gold star. Finally somebody in our government with their head still attached to their shoulders. The people calling for his death or imprisonment are in desperate need of Bachman’s Constitution classes. Where were these protectors of our national security when Bushco was breaking every law on the books?

All it would take is a quick look at the White House website to know Obama hasn’t said one word about Wikileak and those who are talking are giving their personal opinion. Now other people who want to hit the headlines are talking out of their butt as we see many people follow their every word let’s hope they wash their hands. Few Americans accept the fact Obama is a Constitutional Lawyer/Professor as many Americans rather listen to Sarah Palin who some Americans call a genious while trillions laugh at how stupid she is.

I’m not fooled this house is full of crooks like the Senate. How could it possibly work better with more of them?

All in the numbers?

Wells said, Mr. Conyers.

I wonder what Chairman elect Lamar Smith thinks.
Can anyone point to comments of his regarding wikileaks?

Free speech: You are free to say whatever you want, so long as you are rich / powerful / connected (RPC), or so long as nobody pays attention to you. If anyone actually heeds you, and you aren’t RPC, then you are a conspirator and must be silenced. That’s why at political-economic gatherings, the “free speech zones” are so placed that they can be ignored. You may speak freely, so long as nobody can hear hear. Welcome to Amerikkka. Bend over and smile.

Conyers knows his job…just let him do it.

Conyers is a hero. Let us hope there are more who understand the price of liberty. We have our president on press freedom day declaring war on the whistle blower, it is likely he is behind the british prosecutors stalling bail for assange, and despite being called a constitutional scholar, has not made the connection between free speech and the constitution. We have just had a new chief of whistle blower protection appointed, which is good timing, as we have work for him on this issue.
Who says Wiki is not popular? All over the world he is very popular. Who is counting? No doubt Rupert Murdoch would make that claim, but the people I know of support him unanimously.

Conyers is a hero. Let us hope there are more who understand the price of liberty. We have our president on press freedom day declaring war on the whistle blower, it is likely he is behind the british prosecutors stalling bail for assange, and despite being called a constitutional scholar, has not made the connection between free speech and the constitution. We have just had a new chief of whistle blower protection appointed, which is good timing, as we have work for him on this issue.
Who says Wiki is not popular? All over the world he is very popular. Who is counting? No doubt Rupert Murdoch would make that claim, but the people I know of support him unanimously.

This screaming and gnashing of teeth is from a group who would like to have their actions shielded from public view. They’ve graduated from being guilty of a few insidious behaviors which brought them embarrassment and loss of public respect to almost brazenly committing crimes and being protected by the media. Thank you Julian Assange for your courageous and moral stand in exposing them. This is the only means the public has in maintaining control over those who would otherwise destroy this country under the guise of national security and classifications.

This screaming and gnashing of teeth is from a group who would like to have their actions shielded from public view. They’ve graduated from being guilty of a few insidious behaviors which brought them embarrassment and loss of public respect to almost brazenly committing crimes and being protected by the media. Thank you Julian Assange for your courageous and moral stand in exposing them. This is the only means the public has in maintaining control over those who would otherwise destroy this country under the guise of national security and classifications.

Bingaman and Udall are truly stand up statesmen from my home state. I’m proud of them!

Bingaman and Udall are truly stand up statesmen from my home state. I’m proud of them!

Allow me to suggest at this point, that either the Bradley Manning story is a hoax covering the real story, or we are using signals people who are utterly incompetent. How could a private move such a mass of data undetected? This is no email. Hundreds of thousands of documents require hours of computer time on the very best connections, and need a terrabite of disks, which is a lot for a soldier to conceal in his luggage. I think his arrest is an obfuscation, and he as a mark.

Allow me to suggest at this point, that either the Bradley Manning story is a hoax covering the real story, or we are using signals people who are utterly incompetent. How could a private move such a mass of data undetected? This is no email. Hundreds of thousands of documents require hours of computer time on the very best connections, and need a terrabite of disks, which is a lot for a soldier to conceal in his luggage. I think his arrest is an obfuscation, and he as a mark.

Let’s see, ABC-Washington Post conducted a poll that supposedly concluded most Americans want legal action taken against Assange? HA! I think this is just another bogus poll specifically designed to arrive at a predetermined conclusion for the express purpose of deceiving the American people. (I suspect the CIA and/or various banksters/corporations had something to do with this poll arriving at this conclusion.) But like all polls, I don’t believe this one either.

I think Conyers is hanging with the wrong crowd! I didn’t think he did anything wrong. The republicans who might be embarrassed by the leaks seem to be the biggest complainers even calling for Assanges death! Or arrest him for treason!! The republican’s must not know much about treason or about Assange, but it does show the quality of the gop. Violent and dumb!

Wow, some sanity…

I agree. There was another poll saying that most people were in favor of tax cuts for the rich…our media is just government propaganda now.

WickLeaks might be unpopular in the USA because your politicians have been shown to be liars and two-faced.
Meanwhile, In the UK and elsewhere in the world, WikiLeans and Julian Assange are shown to be bastions of freedom… and Bradly Manning is seen as a true American patriot.
By the way…. the US media is seen as an arm of the political publicity machine.
Sad really!

WickLeaks might be unpopular in the USA because your politicians have been shown to be liars and two-faced.
Meanwhile, In the UK and elsewhere in the world, WikiLeans and Julian Assange are shown to be bastions of freedom… and Bradly Manning is seen as a true American patriot.
By the way…. the US media is seen as an arm of the political publicity machine.
Sad really!

WickLeaks might be unpopular in the USA because your politicians have been shown to be liars and two-faced.
Meanwhile, In the UK and elsewhere in the world, WikiLeans and Julian Assange are shown to be bastions of freedom… and Bradly Manning is seen as a true American patriot.
By the way…. the US media is seen as an arm of the political publicity machine.
Sad really!

The Revolution will not be tell-lie-vised! It is in cyber-’espace’!

Julian Assange is a hero! He and Bradley Manning and others are helping us (We the People) to kill the evil, war-mongering beast that ravages the Earth and pushes humanity down the road toward extinction! And I am talking here about the Amerikan ruling class, perhaps the greatest evil in the history of the world. Even Emperor Caligula of Rome, insane as he was, had more common sense and compassion than the bankster gambler addicts in the Wall $treet casino… and their cousins in crime, the Pentagon boners in the military industial complex!

The United $tates of Perpetual War Profiteering has devolved into a violent, third world plutocratic beast, an evil and hegemonic beast that must be stopped… lest all the world will die!

The Revolution will not be tell-lie-vised! It is in cyber-’espace’!

Julian Assange is a hero! He and Bradley Manning and others are helping us (We the People) to kill the evil, war-mongering beast that ravages the Earth and pushes humanity down the road toward extinction! And I am talking here about the Amerikan ruling class, perhaps the greatest evil in the history of the world. Even Emperor Caligula of Rome, insane as he was, had more common sense and compassion than the bankster gambler addicts in the Wall $treet casino… and their cousins in crime, the Pentagon boners in the military industial complex!

The United $tates of Perpetual War Profiteering has devolved into a violent, third world plutocratic beast, an evil and hegemonic beast that must be stopped… lest all the world will die!

The Revolution will not be tell-lie-vised! It is in cyber-’espace’!

Julian Assange is a hero! He and Bradley Manning and others are helping us (We the People) to kill the evil, war-mongering beast that ravages the Earth and pushes humanity down the road toward extinction! And I am talking here about the Amerikan ruling class, perhaps the greatest evil in the history of the world. Even Emperor Caligula of Rome, insane as he was, had more common sense and compassion than the bankster gambler addicts in the Wall $treet casino… and their cousins in crime, the Pentagon boners in the military industial complex!

The United $tates of Perpetual War Profiteering has devolved into a violent, third world plutocratic beast, an evil and hegemonic beast that must be stopped… lest all the world will die!

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Wikileaks did not commit a crime but our government and the governments around the world sure HAVE.
WikiLeaks has should the world that not only is our government corrupted and controlled by the banking empires but , corporations around the world have a strangle hold on the citizens of this world.
They have should just how arrogant , deceitful and corrupted they have become. Also they do not give a d… about the citizens which live on this planet and these Giant Monopolies control just about every policies this government puts into play.

Wikileaks did not commit a crime but our government and the governments around the world sure HAVE.
WikiLeaks has should the world that not only is our government corrupted and controlled by the banking empires but , corporations around the world have a strangle hold on the citizens of this world.
They have should just how arrogant , deceitful and corrupted they have become. Also they do not give a d… about the citizens which live on this planet and these Giant Monopolies control just about every policies this government puts into play.

These current action show just how much our government including Obama is controlled and is a stooge for these corporate Giants but local and foreign which are really one in the same.

If Americans do not pick real candidates NOW , vote for in the coming primary elections in 2012 , Then we will be slaves to these Global Empires forever.

If you do not see by now they are not even covering up their arrogant , lies and deceits to transfer our wealth and power to these Criminal empires.

Not only has Clinton join the racks of the elite by indorsing this corporate propaganda , but Dean and other so called progressive democrats are voting for this criminal piece of legislation.
This legislation is design to transfer the rest of this nation’s wealth to these Global Monopolies and destroy the last public programs which help the middle class and seniors to keep a little bit of respect, like social security and Medicare.

Obama talks with a fork tongue and you can not believe a word which he says.
We know that the republicans do not give a d… for the middle class , seniors or poor , but now the Obama and his group of phony democrats have joined them with their destruction to US.

These current action show just how much our government including Obama is controlled and is a stooge for these corporate Giants but local and foreign which are really one in the same.

If Americans do not pick real candidates NOW , vote for in the coming primary elections in 2012 , Then we will be slaves to these Global Empires forever.

If you do not see by now they are not even covering up their arrogant , lies and deceits to transfer our wealth and power to these Criminal empires.

Not only has Clinton join the racks of the elite by indorsing this corporate propaganda , but Dean and other so called progressive democrats are voting for this criminal piece of legislation.
This legislation is design to transfer the rest of this nation’s wealth to these Global Monopolies and destroy the last public programs which help the middle class and seniors to keep a little bit of respect, like social security and Medicare.

Obama talks with a fork tongue and you can not believe a word which he says.
We know that the republicans do not give a d… for the middle class , seniors or poor , but now the Obama and his group of phony democrats have joined them with their destruction to US.

What ever happened to the Freedom of Information Act?

What ever happened to the Freedom of Information Act?

What ever happened to the Freedom of Information Act?

The poll is a lie.

The poll is a lie.

You must have short term memory loss. You left out the 2010 extension of tax breaks for millionaires.

You must have short term memory loss. You left out the 2010 extension of tax breaks for millionaires.

You must have short term memory loss. You left out the 2010 extension of tax breaks for millionaires.

Bradley Manning may have been caught but there’s no way in hell a low-level officer such as Manning stole 250,000 leaks now in Wikipedia’s possession.

Bradley Manning may have been caught but there’s no way in hell a low-level officer such as Manning stole 250,000 leaks now in Wikipedia’s possession.

Bradley Manning may have been caught but there’s no way in hell a low-level officer such as Manning stole 250,000 leaks now in Wikipedia’s possession.

This poll and others like it remind me of what one of Lily Tomlin’s characters said:

“The truth can be made up if you know how.”

This poll and others like it remind me of what one of Lily Tomlin’s characters said:

“The truth can be made up if you know how.”

Give Conyers a gold star for tucking his tail between his legs when an envelope of anthrax arrived at his door after he voted against the Patriot act. Give Conyers a gold star for letting the Bush family criminal syndicate get away with 9/11.

http://tinyurl.com/carlylegrp

Give Conyers a gold star for tucking his tail between his legs when an envelope of anthrax arrived at his door after he voted against the Patriot act. Give Conyers a gold star for letting the Bush family criminal syndicate get away with 9/11.

http://tinyurl.com/carlylegrp

You know , Philly, I have something you lack, Class…..I don’t need to like you personally to acknowledge when you say something right & give you credit for it…..

You know , Philly, I have something you lack, Class…..I don’t need to like you personally to acknowledge when you say something right & give you credit for it…..

Show me a pompous politician spouting off about the treasonous Assange and I will show you an evil, soulless, warmongering bastard.

For starters…
Joe Lieberman
Diane Feinstein
Mitch McConnell
Newt Gingrich
President Trojan condom

Show me a pompous politician spouting off about the treasonous Assange and I will show you an evil, soulless, warmongering bastard.

For starters…
Joe Lieberman
Diane Feinstein
Mitch McConnell
Newt Gingrich
President Trojan condom

“How could a private move such a mass of data undetected?” Very easily these days. Have you heard of USB sticks? 1GB is a lot of data.
“This is no email.” Correct. It was more likely just a bulk copy of files to a USB stick.

“How could a private move such a mass of data undetected?” Very easily these days. Have you heard of USB sticks? 1GB is a lot of data.
“This is no email.” Correct. It was more likely just a bulk copy of files to a USB stick.

“How could a private move such a mass of data undetected?” Very easily these days. Have you heard of USB sticks? 1GB is a lot of data.
“This is no email.” Correct. It was more likely just a bulk copy of files to a USB stick.

It’s not unpopular because our politicians are crooks and liars, it’s unpopular because 49% of us are Republicans that couldn’t tell you the difference between the Constitution and a piece of used toilet-paper, and they think that their leaders are infallible. I’m a realist, and I support WikiLeaks fully and unconditionally. Like a famous Brit once said: “The people should not fear their government, the government should fear its people…”

It’s not unpopular because our politicians are crooks and liars, it’s unpopular because 49% of us are Republicans that couldn’t tell you the difference between the Constitution and a piece of used toilet-paper, and they think that their leaders are infallible. I’m a realist, and I support WikiLeaks fully and unconditionally. Like a famous Brit once said: “The people should not fear their government, the government should fear its people…”

It’s not unpopular because our politicians are crooks and liars, it’s unpopular because 49% of us are Republicans that couldn’t tell you the difference between the Constitution and a piece of used toilet-paper, and they think that their leaders are infallible. I’m a realist, and I support WikiLeaks fully and unconditionally. Like a famous Brit once said: “The people should not fear their government, the government should fear its people…”

The Patriot Act is the most unpatriotic piece of shit legislation ever written and passed in America, and anyone who supports it is guilty of treason against every single American value. Bush didn’t have anything to do with 9/11. If anyone had something to do with it, it would be Cheney, and his pals at Halliburton, which mysteriously had record profits following the beginning of both wars.

The Patriot Act is the most unpatriotic piece of shit legislation ever written and passed in America, and anyone who supports it is guilty of treason against every single American value. Bush didn’t have anything to do with 9/11. If anyone had something to do with it, it would be Cheney, and his pals at Halliburton, which mysteriously had record profits following the beginning of both wars.

The Patriot Act is the most unpatriotic piece of shit legislation ever written and passed in America, and anyone who supports it is guilty of treason against every single American value. Bush didn’t have anything to do with 9/11. If anyone had something to do with it, it would be Cheney, and his pals at Halliburton, which mysteriously had record profits following the beginning of both wars.

I agree with the first sentence, but why was the UK government keeping Assange in jail?

I agree with the first sentence, but why was the UK government keeping Assange in jail?

I agree with the first sentence, but why was the UK government keeping Assange in jail?

Admit it… You hate us for our freedumbs!

Admit it… You hate us for our freedumbs!

Admit it… You hate us for our freedumbs!

fox noise and the teabagged gNOp-er’s do it all the time. Tomlin rules.

fox noise and the teabagged gNOp-er’s do it all the time. Tomlin rules.

fox noise and the teabagged gNOp-er’s do it all the time. Tomlin rules.

Since you support Ron Paul, does that mean you support the growing republican caucus to shut down the govt next year?

Since you support Ron Paul, does that mean you support the growing republican caucus to shut down the govt next year?

Since you support Ron Paul, does that mean you support the growing republican caucus to shut down the govt next year?

Since you support Ron Paul, does that mean you support the growing republican caucus to shut down the govt next year?

Geez, at least one elected official has a brain.

Obama will keep pushing this bullshit attack on Assange because he’s a LAWYER and thinks everything should be settled in court. The faster Obozo gets kicked out the better, IMO.

Geez, at least one elected official has a brain.

Obama will keep pushing this bullshit attack on Assange because he’s a LAWYER and thinks everything should be settled in court. The faster Obozo gets kicked out the better, IMO.

Geez, at least one elected official has a brain.

Obama will keep pushing this bullshit attack on Assange because he’s a LAWYER and thinks everything should be settled in court. The faster Obozo gets kicked out the better, IMO.

Geez, at least one elected official has a brain.

Obama will keep pushing this bullshit attack on Assange because he’s a LAWYER and thinks everything should be settled in court. The faster Obozo gets kicked out the better, IMO.

You can also do what I do. I buy NOTHING that’s produced by an American corporation. I buy products from independent businesses or Asian or European companies. It’ll be a cold day in hell before I buy anything from an American corporation again. I tell all my students the same thing too.

It’s why most of the world hates America. Americans are now the world’s most hated nationality. Sad, eh?

Oh good god, don’t ever read American media – it’s garbage. Try the European stuff – The Independent and Guardian in the UK etc. You get much more rounded reporting and closer to the REAL truth of what America is doing.

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What the heck? did I just read an article that shows a congress critter with some grey matter functioning? wow I thought they were extinct!

What the heck? did I just read an article that shows a congress critter with some grey matter functioning? wow I thought they were extinct!

They only didn’t commit a crime until January 4th… As soon as the Repukes take over the chairmanships… they’ll investigate Wikileaks… along with looking for ways to impeach Obama…

Come on, Democracy Now, Antiwar.com and a host of independent US media outlets have a very strong record in this regard. Probably the most comprehensive and stinging critiques of US government policy have come from Americans.

Come on, Democracy Now, Antiwar.com and a host of independent US media outlets have a very strong record in this regard. Probably the most comprehensive and stinging critiques of US government policy have come from Americans.

Come on, Democracy Now, Antiwar.com and a host of independent US media outlets have a very strong record in this regard. Probably the most comprehensive and stinging critiques of US government policy have come from Americans.

i am glad we are getting this hearing now, with conyers as chairperson, he’s talking sense here. and at least there’s a wide variety of witnesses called….you can well imagine what is going to happen come January when the reptiles i mean the republicans take over.. totally stacked with right wingers and tea bag nuts- god save the queen! lol. i mean, goddess save the Republic!!

perhaps you are referring to what ‘V’ said in the movie: “People should not be afraid of their governments, governments should be afraid of their people.”

Keep in mind that the leaks don’t come from the highest classified database(s), and that if the ‘cables’ were in plain ascii format, initially encrypted or not, a simple database ‘dump’ of hundreds of thousands documents could easily be copied to a memory stick, a DVD or even a CD. Given the proper security permissions, of course. I am not saying this is the way it happened, but if it is, one should wonder why such an operation did not set off an alarm…

Another thought: If this is what happened, how many times was it done before, by other operators, and who were the recipients? We are talking about a network allegedly accessible by 2.5 mill. individuals…

Don’t worry, he’ll soon be shouted down as unpatriotic, biased, and otherwise unfit for office.

Less fear, more honesty. Politics is becoming a circus, and matters of such importance are too vital to be left to poseurs, demagogues, and other assorted liars.

All at once I like Congressman Conyers despite his support of the Patriot Act, the Iraq War, the Afghan war and other illegal, unconstitutional policies.

Wikileaks did not commit a crime, House Judiciary chairman says…

The chairman of the House judiciary committee Rep. John Conyers (D-MI) defended Wikileaks on Thursday, arguing that the controversial actions of the anti-secrecy outlet are protected under free speech….

This John Conyers is the same corrupt Democrat with a history of being on the wrong side of American values. If folks took the time to Honestly examine who he is and what he stands for they would not listen to ANY thing he says. It is only when he is around his liberal, America hating buddys that he has any audience. Middle America is getting sick of these types of liberals and I beleive we will continue from now on exposing their bias and removing them from power.

Thank God for common sence and John Conyers; a knee jerk reaction now could destroy the constitution of the United States.
Something its many enemies in the Muslim World would welcome with open arms!
You can just imagine Iran’s leadership shouting from the minarets
“The infidels cut their own throats”!
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Thank God for common sence and John Conyers; a knee jerk reaction now could destroy the constitution of the United States.
Something its many enemies in the Muslim World would welcome with open arms!
You can just imagine Iran’s leadership shouting from the minarets
“The infidels cut their own throats”!
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America may have included free speech as a right of its citizens, but it also included treason and espionage as the highest crimes of the land.

And, oh by the way, note that free speech is a right of citizens, not non-citizens.

Free speech does not protect citizens or anyone else from publishing documents that are a direct attack on National Security.

You really need to wake up. This isn’t a free speech issue.

I think you have Conyers confused with someone else “On June 16, 2005 Rep. John Conyers (D-MI) assembled an unofficial meeting to … 2007 was that Bush and Cheney should be impeached for the Iraq war” Conyers never supported the Iraq war, so without doing any further research it is probably safe to assume that the rest of your statement leaves a bit to be desired.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=John_Conyers,_Jr.

Please read I think that you are confusing Conyers with that jackass republican from Texas.

Conyers is one of the few congressman whom I have respect for. So now that we know that Assange has committed no crime at least by American gold standard (the constitution) can we move along.

Please do not confuse John Conyers with John Cornyn from Texas. John Conyers is an esteemed member of the Congress and John Cornyn is a goose stepping republican Senator.

You really need to pull your head out of your ass.

If Assange is to be tried under US law, he has the same constitutional rights as any US citizen, just like an “illegal alien” would, or a foreigner being tried for a crime committed on US soil. What the US is doing to the people at Guantanamo bay has been done by trampling on the rights of all of us, and as such is unconstitutional.

Besides, current law, constitutional or otherwise, would need to be extended to allow Assange to be tried at all. Current constitutional precedents and the espionage act do not contain any language that dictates that Assange is a criminal.

Unfortunately, mere details such as the law won’t stop people like you from wanting to trample the rights of every American to start a witch hunt against someone who has done nothing wrong (legally and morally) and most certainly has not endangered anyone.

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What I fail to understand is how US law could even apply to Julian Assange. Setting aside the fact that it appears that no US law has been broken, how can a country look to prosecute someone who is not a citizen, for actions not taken in that country? Surely the only prosecution that could be pursued would be against whoever actually leaked the information from the US government to begin with. That is where any potential ‘National Security’ issue exists. Publishing politically embarrassing information received from whistle blowers is nothing new, this is just on a greater scale.

What I fail to understand is how US law could even apply to Julian Assange. Setting aside the fact that it appears that no US law has been broken, how can a country look to prosecute someone who is not a citizen, for actions not taken in that country? Surely the only prosecution that could be pursued would be against whoever actually leaked the information from the US government to begin with. That is where any potential ‘National Security’ issue exists. Publishing politically embarrassing information received from whistle blowers is nothing new, this is just on a greater scale.

The idea would be that his actions damaged US interests/personnel and he is to be tried for said damage. It doesn’t matter where the “crime” was carried out, if it supposedly hurt Americans then it is legally possible to try him in the United States. Stupid, I know.

Unfortunately in order to try him, the rights of everyone will have to be trampled. Fuck, I love my country.

The idea would be that his actions damaged US interests/personnel and he is to be tried for said damage. It doesn’t matter where the “crime” was carried out, if it supposedly hurt Americans then it is legally possible to try him in the United States. Stupid, I know.

Unfortunately in order to try him, the rights of everyone will have to be trampled. Fuck, I love my country.

The idea would be that his actions damaged US interests/personnel and he is to be tried for said damage. It doesn’t matter where the “crime” was carried out, if it supposedly hurt Americans then it is legally possible to try him in the United States. Stupid, I know.

Unfortunately in order to try him, the rights of everyone will have to be trampled. Fuck, I love my country.

The idea would be that his actions damaged US interests/personnel and he is to be tried for said damage. It doesn’t matter where the “crime” was carried out, if it supposedly hurt Americans then it is legally possible to try him in the United States. Stupid, I know.

Unfortunately in order to try him, the rights of everyone will have to be trampled. Fuck, I love my country.

The idea would be that his actions damaged US interests/personnel and he is to be tried for said damage. It doesn’t matter where the “crime” was carried out, if it supposedly hurt Americans then it is legally possible to try him in the United States. Stupid, I know.

Unfortunately in order to try him, the rights of everyone will have to be trampled. Fuck, I love my country.

The idea would be that his actions damaged US interests/personnel and he is to be tried for said damage. It doesn’t matter where the “crime” was carried out, if it supposedly hurt Americans then it is legally possible to try him in the United States. Stupid, I know.

Unfortunately in order to try him, the rights of everyone will have to be trampled. Fuck, I love my country.

The idea would be that his actions damaged US interests/personnel and he is to be tried for said damage. It doesn’t matter where the “crime” was carried out, if it supposedly hurt Americans then it is legally possible to try him in the United States. Stupid, I know.

Unfortunately in order to try him, the rights of everyone will have to be trampled. Fuck, I love my country.

The idea would be that his actions damaged US interests/personnel and he is to be tried for said damage. It doesn’t matter where the “crime” was carried out, if it supposedly hurt Americans then it is legally possible to try him in the United States. Stupid, I know.

Unfortunately in order to try him, the rights of everyone will have to be trampled. Fuck, I love my country.

“and a majority of the US public deems the leak of diplomatic cables harmful to public interest and supports legal action against Assange”

I hope the US democracy does not become a vessel for Mob justice.

“and a majority of the US public deems the leak of diplomatic cables harmful to public interest and supports legal action against Assange”

I hope the US democracy does not become a vessel for Mob justice.

Too late.

Too late.

Too late.

Too late.

Too late.

Too late.

The story that was reported was that he was claimed to have given, was that he would carry a music CD in to work, wipe the disk, and load it with secrets. It is not exceptional that these could be as much as 3 mb each document, by 300,000 that we know of now. I figure this at about 900 gig, or 1800 disks. He was reported to be saying disks. Using sticks, he needs 900 of them. How big is each file really? If he actually did it the security crew at his base needs to be in jail. They are probably Blackwater men. Maybe they were being provided with boys for their enjoyment while this was going on. Nothing else I have seen explains how it worked.

The story that was reported was that he was claimed to have given, was that he would carry a music CD in to work, wipe the disk, and load it with secrets. It is not exceptional that these could be as much as 3 mb each document, by 300,000 that we know of now. I figure this at about 900 gig, or 1800 disks. He was reported to be saying disks. Using sticks, he needs 900 of them. How big is each file really? If he actually did it the security crew at his base needs to be in jail. They are probably Blackwater men. Maybe they were being provided with boys for their enjoyment while this was going on. Nothing else I have seen explains how it worked.

The story that was reported was that he was claimed to have given, was that he would carry a music CD in to work, wipe the disk, and load it with secrets. It is not exceptional that these could be as much as 3 mb each document, by 300,000 that we know of now. I figure this at about 900 gig, or 1800 disks. He was reported to be saying disks. Using sticks, he needs 900 of them. How big is each file really? If he actually did it the security crew at his base needs to be in jail. They are probably Blackwater men. Maybe they were being provided with boys for their enjoyment while this was going on. Nothing else I have seen explains how it worked.

The story that was reported was that he was claimed to have given, was that he would carry a music CD in to work, wipe the disk, and load it with secrets. It is not exceptional that these could be as much as 3 mb each document, by 300,000 that we know of now. I figure this at about 900 gig, or 1800 disks. He was reported to be saying disks. Using sticks, he needs 900 of them. How big is each file really? If he actually did it the security crew at his base needs to be in jail. They are probably Blackwater men. Maybe they were being provided with boys for their enjoyment while this was going on. Nothing else I have seen explains how it worked.

The story that was reported was that he was claimed to have given, was that he would carry a music CD in to work, wipe the disk, and load it with secrets. It is not exceptional that these could be as much as 3 mb each document, by 300,000 that we know of now. I figure this at about 900 gig, or 1800 disks. He was reported to be saying disks. Using sticks, he needs 900 of them. How big is each file really? If he actually did it the security crew at his base needs to be in jail. They are probably Blackwater men. Maybe they were being provided with boys for their enjoyment while this was going on. Nothing else I have seen explains how it worked.

The story that was reported was that he was claimed to have given, was that he would carry a music CD in to work, wipe the disk, and load it with secrets. It is not exceptional that these could be as much as 3 mb each document, by 300,000 that we know of now. I figure this at about 900 gig, or 1800 disks. He was reported to be saying disks. Using sticks, he needs 900 of them. How big is each file really? If he actually did it the security crew at his base needs to be in jail. They are probably Blackwater men. Maybe they were being provided with boys for their enjoyment while this was going on. Nothing else I have seen explains how it worked.

The story that was reported was that he was claimed to have given, was that he would carry a music CD in to work, wipe the disk, and load it with secrets. It is not exceptional that these could be as much as 3 mb each document, by 300,000 that we know of now. I figure this at about 900 gig, or 1800 disks. He was reported to be saying disks. Using sticks, he needs 900 of them. How big is each file really? If he actually did it the security crew at his base needs to be in jail. They are probably Blackwater men. Maybe they were being provided with boys for their enjoyment while this was going on. Nothing else I have seen explains how it worked.

The story that was reported was that he was claimed to have given, was that he would carry a music CD in to work, wipe the disk, and load it with secrets. It is not exceptional that these could be as much as 3 mb each document, by 300,000 that we know of now. I figure this at about 900 gig, or 1800 disks. He was reported to be saying disks. Using sticks, he needs 900 of them. How big is each file really? If he actually did it the security crew at his base needs to be in jail. They are probably Blackwater men. Maybe they were being provided with boys for their enjoyment while this was going on. Nothing else I have seen explains how it worked.

The story that was reported was that he was claimed to have given, was that he would carry a music CD in to work, wipe the disk, and load it with secrets. It is not exceptional that these could be as much as 3 mb each document, by 300,000 that we know of now. I figure this at about 900 gig, or 1800 disks. He was reported to be saying disks. Using sticks, he needs 900 of them. How big is each file really? If he actually did it the security crew at his base needs to be in jail. They are probably Blackwater men. Maybe they were being provided with boys for their enjoyment while this was going on. Nothing else I have seen explains how it worked.

The story that was reported was that he was claimed to have given, was that he would carry a music CD in to work, wipe the disk, and load it with secrets. It is not exceptional that these could be as much as 3 mb each document, by 300,000 that we know of now. I figure this at about 900 gig, or 1800 disks. He was reported to be saying disks. Using sticks, he needs 900 of them. How big is each file really? If he actually did it the security crew at his base needs to be in jail. They are probably Blackwater men. Maybe they were being provided with boys for their enjoyment while this was going on. Nothing else I have seen explains how it worked.

The story that was reported was that he was claimed to have given, was that he would carry a music CD in to work, wipe the disk, and load it with secrets. It is not exceptional that these could be as much as 3 mb each document, by 300,000 that we know of now. I figure this at about 900 gig, or 1800 disks. He was reported to be saying disks. Using sticks, he needs 900 of them. How big is each file really? If he actually did it the security crew at his base needs to be in jail. They are probably Blackwater men. Maybe they were being provided with boys for their enjoyment while this was going on. Nothing else I have seen explains how it worked.

The story that was reported was that he was claimed to have given, was that he would carry a music CD in to work, wipe the disk, and load it with secrets. It is not exceptional that these could be as much as 3 mb each document, by 300,000 that we know of now. I figure this at about 900 gig, or 1800 disks. He was reported to be saying disks. Using sticks, he needs 900 of them. How big is each file really? If he actually did it the security crew at his base needs to be in jail. They are probably Blackwater men. Maybe they were being provided with boys for their enjoyment while this was going on. Nothing else I have seen explains how it worked.

The story that was reported was that he was claimed to have given, was that he would carry a music CD in to work, wipe the disk, and load it with secrets. It is not exceptional that these could be as much as 3 mb each document, by 300,000 that we know of now. I figure this at about 900 gig, or 1800 disks. He was reported to be saying disks. Using sticks, he needs 900 of them. How big is each file really? If he actually did it the security crew at his base needs to be in jail. They are probably Blackwater men. Maybe they were being provided with boys for their enjoyment while this was going on. Nothing else I have seen explains how it worked.

The story that was reported was that he was claimed to have given, was that he would carry a music CD in to work, wipe the disk, and load it with secrets. It is not exceptional that these could be as much as 3 mb each document, by 300,000 that we know of now. I figure this at about 900 gig, or 1800 disks. He was reported to be saying disks. Using sticks, he needs 900 of them. How big is each file really? If he actually did it the security crew at his base needs to be in jail. They are probably Blackwater men. Maybe they were being provided with boys for their enjoyment while this was going on. Nothing else I have seen explains how it worked.

The story that was reported was that he was claimed to have given, was that he would carry a music CD in to work, wipe the disk, and load it with secrets. It is not exceptional that these could be as much as 3 mb each document, by 300,000 that we know of now. I figure this at about 900 gig, or 1800 disks. He was reported to be saying disks. Using sticks, he needs 900 of them. How big is each file really? If he actually did it the security crew at his base needs to be in jail. They are probably Blackwater men. Maybe they were being provided with boys for their enjoyment while this was going on. Nothing else I have seen explains how it worked.

Remind me that the next time someone reports me for a serious crime I will sue them and demand they be put in prison and executed for the personal harm their revelation will deliver to me and to make their report the crime instead of my own.

Remind me that the next time someone reports me for a serious crime I will sue them and demand they be put in prison and executed for the personal harm their revelation will deliver to me and to make their report the crime instead of my own.

Remind me that the next time someone reports me for a serious crime I will sue them and demand they be put in prison and executed for the personal harm their revelation will deliver to me and to make their report the crime instead of my own.

Remind me that the next time someone reports me for a serious crime I will sue them and demand they be put in prison and executed for the personal harm their revelation will deliver to me and to make their report the crime instead of my own.

Remind me that the next time someone reports me for a serious crime I will sue them and demand they be put in prison and executed for the personal harm their revelation will deliver to me and to make their report the crime instead of my own.

Remind me that the next time someone reports me for a serious crime I will sue them and demand they be put in prison and executed for the personal harm their revelation will deliver to me and to make their report the crime instead of my own.

Remind me that the next time someone reports me for a serious crime I will sue them and demand they be put in prison and executed for the personal harm their revelation will deliver to me and to make their report the crime instead of my own.

Remind me that the next time someone reports me for a serious crime I will sue them and demand they be put in prison and executed for the personal harm their revelation will deliver to me and to make their report the crime instead of my own.

Remind me that the next time someone reports me for a serious crime I will sue them and demand they be put in prison and executed for the personal harm their revelation will deliver to me and to make their report the crime instead of my own.

Remind me that the next time someone reports me for a serious crime I will sue them and demand they be put in prison and executed for the personal harm their revelation will deliver to me and to make their report the crime instead of my own.

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WRONG. The constitution specifically grants certain rights to “citizens”, and certain other rights to “all persons”. GO READ IT, IT IS VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT THIS. For instance, only citizens can become president, only citizens can vote. But free speech applies TO ALL PERSONS.

So yes, get your head out of your ass.

The U.S. has only ever convicted 12 people of treason. Outside of the civil war, only one has ever been executed. About half were pardoned.

Yes, this is a free speech issue. Al Queda is not the one threatening our freedom: It’s cowardly americans like you. Fuck you and please renounce your citizenship.

WRONG. The constitution specifically grants certain rights to “citizens”, and certain other rights to “all persons”. GO READ IT, IT IS VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT THIS. For instance, only citizens can become president, only citizens can vote. But free speech applies TO ALL PERSONS.

So yes, get your head out of your ass.

The U.S. has only ever convicted 12 people of treason. Outside of the civil war, only one has ever been executed. About half were pardoned.

Yes, this is a free speech issue. Al Queda is not the one threatening our freedom: It’s cowardly americans like you. Fuck you and please renounce your citizenship.

WRONG. The constitution specifically grants certain rights to “citizens”, and certain other rights to “all persons”. GO READ IT, IT IS VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT THIS. For instance, only citizens can become president, only citizens can vote. But free speech applies TO ALL PERSONS.

So yes, get your head out of your ass.

The U.S. has only ever convicted 12 people of treason. Outside of the civil war, only one has ever been executed. About half were pardoned.

Yes, this is a free speech issue. Al Queda is not the one threatening our freedom: It’s cowardly americans like you. Fuck you and please renounce your citizenship.

WRONG. The constitution specifically grants certain rights to “citizens”, and certain other rights to “all persons”. GO READ IT, IT IS VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT THIS. For instance, only citizens can become president, only citizens can vote. But free speech applies TO ALL PERSONS.

So yes, get your head out of your ass.

The U.S. has only ever convicted 12 people of treason. Outside of the civil war, only one has ever been executed. About half were pardoned.

Yes, this is a free speech issue. Al Queda is not the one threatening our freedom: It’s cowardly americans like you. Fuck you and please renounce your citizenship.

WRONG. The constitution specifically grants certain rights to “citizens”, and certain other rights to “all persons”. GO READ IT, IT IS VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT THIS. For instance, only citizens can become president, only citizens can vote. But free speech applies TO ALL PERSONS.

So yes, get your head out of your ass.

The U.S. has only ever convicted 12 people of treason. Outside of the civil war, only one has ever been executed. About half were pardoned.

Yes, this is a free speech issue. Al Queda is not the one threatening our freedom: It’s cowardly americans like you. Fuck you and please renounce your citizenship.

WRONG. The constitution specifically grants certain rights to “citizens”, and certain other rights to “all persons”. GO READ IT, IT IS VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT THIS. For instance, only citizens can become president, only citizens can vote. But free speech applies TO ALL PERSONS.

So yes, get your head out of your ass.

The U.S. has only ever convicted 12 people of treason. Outside of the civil war, only one has ever been executed. About half were pardoned.

Yes, this is a free speech issue. Al Queda is not the one threatening our freedom: It’s cowardly americans like you. Fuck you and please renounce your citizenship.

WRONG. The constitution specifically grants certain rights to “citizens”, and certain other rights to “all persons”. GO READ IT, IT IS VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT THIS. For instance, only citizens can become president, only citizens can vote. But free speech applies TO ALL PERSONS.

So yes, get your head out of your ass.

The U.S. has only ever convicted 12 people of treason. Outside of the civil war, only one has ever been executed. About half were pardoned.

Yes, this is a free speech issue. Al Queda is not the one threatening our freedom: It’s cowardly americans like you. Fuck you and please renounce your citizenship.

WRONG. The constitution specifically grants certain rights to “citizens”, and certain other rights to “all persons”. GO READ IT, IT IS VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT THIS. For instance, only citizens can become president, only citizens can vote. But free speech applies TO ALL PERSONS.

So yes, get your head out of your ass.

The U.S. has only ever convicted 12 people of treason. Outside of the civil war, only one has ever been executed. About half were pardoned.

Yes, this is a free speech issue. Al Queda is not the one threatening our freedom: It’s cowardly americans like you. Fuck you and please renounce your citizenship.

WRONG. The constitution specifically grants certain rights to “citizens”, and certain other rights to “all persons”. GO READ IT, IT IS VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT THIS. For instance, only citizens can become president, only citizens can vote. But free speech applies TO ALL PERSONS.

So yes, get your head out of your ass.

The U.S. has only ever convicted 12 people of treason. Outside of the civil war, only one has ever been executed. About half were pardoned.

Yes, this is a free speech issue. Al Queda is not the one threatening our freedom: It’s cowardly americans like you. Fuck you and please renounce your citizenship.

WRONG. The constitution specifically grants certain rights to “citizens”, and certain other rights to “all persons”. GO READ IT, IT IS VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT THIS. For instance, only citizens can become president, only citizens can vote. But free speech applies TO ALL PERSONS.

So yes, get your head out of your ass.

The U.S. has only ever convicted 12 people of treason. Outside of the civil war, only one has ever been executed. About half were pardoned.

Yes, this is a free speech issue. Al Queda is not the one threatening our freedom: It’s cowardly americans like you. Fuck you and please renounce your citizenship.

5 million of our money no less.

The man is right. I wonder how documents written in an ILLEGAL WAR can not be published. The documents contain LIES because the war was based on a LIE!! Why don’t we hear objections from the Iraki politicians or Afghani- Abu Ghraib- politicians?

That’s not right. Free speech includes ALL persons and is not limited to citizens. This has been covered already. We are awake. It is you that needs to “wake up” to the fact that FOX news makes people less intelligent (see article) and that your heros are telling you a fib. I say heros because any coherent thinking person as you seem to be would never have arrived at the conclusion that Assange was guilty of anything.

Corruption requires secrecy to survive. The corruptors do not want their dirty laundry aired. I am sure you want the corruption to stop as well. If you don’t, then… well I will lump you in the same bin as the shills that want Assange’s head.

Exposing secrets of criminality, secrets of profane and inhuman acts, secrets of murder, secrets of torture, secrets of fraud, secrets of political intrigue and abuse is just outing what everybody already knows: that we are represented by a corrupted and failing system that failed to protect itself on 9/11 and will never recover. It should be abandoned and rebuilt without the fear, weaponry and pointless vitriol. Secrecy and democracy cannot coexist.

I only support his desire for a fed inquisition.

Shutting down the government is like a person deciding not to pay any more bills. All they accomplish is pissing off creditors, and enriching lawyers and collection agencies.

What is needed, is to link spending, to specific revenue sources. I sometimes think that what aggravates the right about social securtiy is that it has a dedicated revenue stream, that works. The real genius of the plan was keeping it out of the general revenue stream. Which makes Obama the anti genius, which I guess you could call stupid, for agreeing to a temporary(ha ha ha ha ha ha) social security tax reduction, whose shortfalls will be covered by general revenue.

The biggest general revenue expense is DOD. The Oligarchy derives the greatest benefit from their sacrifice. They should have their taxes reset to prior 911 levels. They should pay a surcharge for slacking for 8 years of war.

This guy is on a Government payroll. I’m willing to put money on it.

How is revealing the truth a direct attack?

How is revealing the truth a direct attack?

How is revealing the truth a direct attack?

[...] is very unpopular right now. Many feel that the WikiLeaks publication was offensive." "But being unpopular is not a crime, and publishing offensive information is not either. And the repeated calls from politicians, [...]

“…let us not legislate in a climate of fear…” Too bad nobody was saying that when USA-PATRIOT was dropped on us.

“…let us not legislate in a climate of fear…” Too bad nobody was saying that when USA-PATRIOT was dropped on us.

“…let us not legislate in a climate of fear…” Too bad nobody was saying that when USA-PATRIOT was dropped on us.

Bravo Congressman Conyers.

It’s infuriating & amazing that the largely uninformed public is polled on issues such as this — that involve basic civil & constitutional rights — & as normal the majority side with those calling for less rights, freedom & openness. But that’s why we’ve become a neofascist state.

That’s because they want to believe that our country is good, therefore our government is good.

Time to grow up children. There is much bad in our government as we allowed corporations to invade it.

Sometimes mob justice can be good when it’s done for good reasons.

…indentured servitude, women considered property not allowed to vote for almost 144 years.

We did over come that, and we can overcome the evils of present day and future if we pay attention.

…indentured servitude, women considered property not allowed to vote for almost 144 years.

We did over come that, and we can overcome the evils of present day and future if we pay attention.

Contrary to what America and a number of Americans believe, we don’t own the world.

Contrary to what America and a number of Americans believe, we don’t own the world.

We don’t own the world even if many Americans think we do.

A direct attack such as Pearl Harbor and 9/11 means we can declare war. Wikileaks has never made a direct attack, they just embarrassed bush, jr administration, and that’s a good thing.

Traffic Starter apparently wants to trample on people’s rights when they don’t even live in the US as well as not being American Citizens.

Why should Assange be tried in our courts at all?

Had we not invaded their land and interfered with their lives, the Muslims wouldn’t give a hoot about us, or our Constitution at all.

Better go back and do some research before you post again.

But many of will be nipping at their heels.

Clearly you haven’t been paying much attention to our congress.

Only by idiots and they don’t live in his district.

Wrong, because our president holds the presidency in the highest regard and wants to preserve it’s integrity even though from 2001 to 2008 we had a scumbag in that office.

Depends on how they worded it and segment of the population questioned.

Earlier this year, I received a poll from of all people the RNC, about the pending health care reform. You wouldn’t believe the way they worded the questions.

Had I not been wise to what they are I would have fallen for their questions and answered the way they wanted me to.

But I didn’t.

chimpy and shooter tore it up.

Well actually one can also go after those that used the stolen docs. Both are crimes of war no matter what you all think! We are at war with Terrorists who would kill us all if they could.
This act is wrong! And if Russia or China or N. Korea or Iran had been the nation whose docs were stolen, Assange would be pushing daisies! Prosecute all the abusers!

Nice speech, but clearly you don’t know much about the real world.

Yes the corporations are powerful and believe me no one who would stand up to them would be voted into office or survive.

And keep our people from having a job, nice job.

I look for made in the USA.

With friends like you who needs enimies?

I think the rest of the world are far more supportive than Americans are.

There are many of us who support Wikileaks, or did until paypal, MasterCard, Visa and Amazon stopped us.

There are many of us who support Wikileaks, or did until paypal, MasterCard, Visa and Amazon stopped us.

Because he didn’t want to go back to Sweden where he was accused of rape which clearly Sweden was not going to charge Assane, but still had to try him for a lesser trial.

They didn’t want him to run away, in case that’s what he had in mind.

Because he didn’t want to go back to Sweden where he was accused of rape which clearly Sweden was not going to charge Assane, but still had to try him for a lesser trial.

They didn’t want him to run away, in case that’s what he had in mind.

Frankly I wish the gop were afraid of us.

Frankly I wish the gop were afraid of us.

You do know who Conyers is don’t you? He’s a Democrat, and he’s not senator cornyn who is a gop and like 99.9999% of gop is an idiot.

You do know who Conyers is don’t you? He’s a Democrat, and he’s not senator cornyn who is a gop and like 99.9999% of gop is an idiot.

ABC isn’t exactly neutral either.

ABC isn’t exactly neutral either.

It’s nice to know there are some congress persons who don’t have “For Sale” sign tattoo’s on their foreheads, John Conyers is one of the few.

Bravo John, maybe you can spark some sense into a few more of your colleagues to see truth instead of spin. I’m so tired of Washington Wagging the Dog.

I don’t see how the USA could legally indict Julian Assange – he’s an Australian and just revealed what an informer passed on to him

“And, oh by the way, note that free speech is a right of citizens, not non-citizens.”

That’s flat out wrong, free speech is constitutionally protected within the United States for every single person, there was a trial back in the 1800′s regarding free speech for a citizen of China, concurring with the constitution that all people are granted free speech.

Problem is we created the terrorists with illegal wars of aggression, and prosecuting criminals should start with Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld etc. then move on to the Bankers.

[...] More →   This entry was posted in News, Via Reddit and tagged chairman, crime, free, house, judiciary, law, rawstory.com, speech, wikileaks. Bookmark the permalink. ← What’s That Collar Really Made of? New Bill Calls for Fur Disclosure – AOL Small Business Julian Assange: WikiLeaks faces ‘very aggressive’ investigation by US | Media | The Guardian → [...]

When all was said and done, the witnesses seemed to agree, in part, that the government is overclassifying information, the Espionage Act of 1917 is likely unconstitutional, the SHIELD Act, proposed recently by Sen. Joe Lieberman [I-CT], rests on a shaky constitutional footing also, and it is important that the legislature not overreact to the WikiLeaks cables.

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If Julian Assange had not come along, we would have had to invent him. He is the essential man in the early part of this century. He has spawned one of the greatest movements in history. The movement to Make Govt admit it broke the law, bent the rules, and broke the law again. May Assange come out smelling like a rose.

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<3 <3 <3 Conyers!

[...] Wikileaks did not violate Espionage Act, House judiciary chairman says: “America was founded o…rawstory.com [...]

If Wikileaks was advising people or sending spyware out – the FBI could have posted as a leak and obtain information in that way. The fact that they didn’t proves that they are either incompetent or that there is no evidence. Putting pressure on Bradley Manning will only create false and trumped up charges.

Kudos to Congressman Conyers for his respect for the First Amendment and the rule of law……

Yay, John!

Too bad we’ll probably never see the current cables between Washington D.C. and London (or Swedish authorities) in which the Obama administration is trying to force the British government to turn over Assange to U.S. authorities (based on the specious Swedish charges against him), extraditing him for prosecution, unless plans are being made to pick up Assange over in England while he’s free on bail (another CIA operation like the one in Italy?), rendition him somewhere and “pressure” him into revealing how he got his hands on the information he is releasing.

Too bad we’ll probably never see the current cables between Washington D.C. and London (or Swedish authorities) in which the Obama administration is trying to force the British government to turn over Assange to U.S. authorities (based on the specious Swedish charges against him), extraditing him for prosecution, unless plans are being made to pick up Assange over in England while he’s free on bail (another CIA operation like the one in Italy?), rendition him somewhere and “pressure” him into revealing how he got his hands on the information he is releasing.

Yes I know who Conyers is. I meant he should be hanging with the liberals on this site.

Yes I know who Conyers is. I meant he should be hanging with the liberals on this site.

Take a breath Gammy! Assange did nothing wrong by leaking the cables. It is called freedom of the press and we need that in order to have a democracy. All that Assange did was his job and to embarrass a few old men. You must watch a lot of fox news because you seem to be frightened. Of course some countries would try an execute Assange, but countries like No. Korea and Iran aren’t democracies. So if that is what you want you need to find a different country to live in. I understand why you are confused because we haven’t had much freedom of speech lately! But if we arrest Assange for doing his job then we must arrest Michael Isikoff. Woodward and anyone else who has written articles or books with leaked material in them. I hope this gives the reporters in this country a nudge to start investigating the news they are reporting on. We have seen many of our freedoms eroded in the past 12 years hopefully this will be the beginning of getting them back.

Take a breath Gammy! Assange did nothing wrong by leaking the cables. It is called freedom of the press and we need that in order to have a democracy. All that Assange did was his job and to embarrass a few old men. You must watch a lot of fox news because you seem to be frightened. Of course some countries would try an execute Assange, but countries like No. Korea and Iran aren’t democracies. So if that is what you want you need to find a different country to live in. I understand why you are confused because we haven’t had much freedom of speech lately! But if we arrest Assange for doing his job then we must arrest Michael Isikoff. Woodward and anyone else who has written articles or books with leaked material in them. I hope this gives the reporters in this country a nudge to start investigating the news they are reporting on. We have seen many of our freedoms eroded in the past 12 years hopefully this will be the beginning of getting them back.

What is it that people want out of Wikileaks now? Isn’t it too fucking late? One of the major components of the intelligence game consists in making sure that certain information does not get out. Once it does, it is game over. Starting with mirror websites, there will be plenty of places where this information will be retrieved worldwide. One site will shut down and another will open up. Again, the idea was to prevent the leak.

If you can be linked to a crime against the US, our allies are supposed to hand you over. Nonetheless, Assange, just like Roman Polanski, is simply not a citizen of a Third World Country. Moreover, we have the death penalty and the Europeans don’t. That means that Assange will never be handed over to us.

Better check with Justice Scalia over at SCOTUS

Might it be, as with Osama bin Laden brilliantly causing Americans to attack themselves vastly beyond any enemy’s ability, that Assange does the same, as will the next person to hold a metaphorical mirror in front of the Americans?

The answer is: Yes.

Historians will accurately state that the Soviet and American empires collapsed about the same time, for the same reasons, much to the amusement of those historians when they wrote that a few decades ago.

Respectfully, DougBuchanan.com

apropos the use of these words threat to “National Security” and “classified documents” and the criminalization of all sorts of dissent and whistle blowing:

“When I use a word”, Humpty Dumpy said in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean-nothing more nor less”. “The question is” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things”. “The question is” said Humpty Dumpy, “which is to be Master-that’s all… “

apropos the use of these words threat to “National Security” and “classified documents” and the criminalization of all sorts of dissent and whistle blowing:

“When I use a word”, Humpty Dumpy said in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean-nothing more nor less”. “The question is” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things”. “The question is” said Humpty Dumpy, “which is to be Master-that’s all… “

Listen Jerk! Take Your Animal Farm – Sal Alinsky crap and shove it! Assange is a criminal – he used stolen documents – and the damages are beyond your understanding. And I don’t watch fox all of the time – never even heard of them before 2007 – I have lived long enough to know crap when I hear and see it! Our Nation has gone too too far to the liberal ignorant side of things! And too many folks drank the cool aid and totally do not why and who they voted for – Just did what some movie star told them – So keep your thoughts – I will keep mine. And PS _ I am here as a proud immigrant – and maybe it is you that needs to leave! -

Listen Jerk! Take Your Animal Farm – Sal Alinsky crap and shove it! Assange is a criminal – he used stolen documents – and the damages are beyond your understanding. And I don’t watch fox all of the time – never even heard of them before 2007 – I have lived long enough to know crap when I hear and see it! Our Nation has gone too too far to the liberal ignorant side of things! And too many folks drank the cool aid and totally do not why and who they voted for – Just did what some movie star told them – So keep your thoughts – I will keep mine. And PS _ I am here as a proud immigrant – and maybe it is you that needs to leave! -

Listen Jerk! Take Your Animal Farm – Sal Alinsky crap and shove it! Assange is a criminal – he used stolen documents – and the damages are beyond your understanding. And I don’t watch fox all of the time – never even heard of them before 2007 – I have lived long enough to know crap when I hear and see it! Our Nation has gone too too far to the liberal ignorant side of things! And too many folks drank the cool aid and totally do not why and who they voted for – Just did what some movie star told them – So keep your thoughts – I will keep mine. And PS _ I am here as a proud immigrant – and maybe it is you that needs to leave! -

Listen Jerk! Take Your Animal Farm – Sal Alinsky crap and shove it! Assange is a criminal – he used stolen documents – and the damages are beyond your understanding. And I don’t watch fox all of the time – never even heard of them before 2007 – I have lived long enough to know crap when I hear and see it! Our Nation has gone too too far to the liberal ignorant side of things! And too many folks drank the cool aid and totally do not why and who they voted for – Just did what some movie star told them – So keep your thoughts – I will keep mine. And PS _ I am here as a proud immigrant – and maybe it is you that needs to leave! -

Australian Assange is a better American patriot than most of our elected office-holders.

I’ll use you as an example in my next exposition of why and how we need to revamp requirements for immigration.

We have swung so far **to the right** that, were he alive and in politics today, Richard Nixon would be seen as a ‘flaming liberal’ – utterly unacceptable to the Republican Party (which he wouldn’t recognize), and probably too far left even for the neoliberal Democratic Party’s comfort.

Australian Assange is a better American patriot than most of our elected office-holders.

I’ll use you as an example in my next exposition of why and how we need to revamp requirements for immigration.

We have swung so far **to the right** that, were he alive and in politics today, Richard Nixon would be seen as a ‘flaming liberal’ – utterly unacceptable to the Republican Party (which he wouldn’t recognize), and probably too far left even for the neoliberal Democratic Party’s comfort.

Australian Assange is a better American patriot than most of our elected office-holders.

I’ll use you as an example in my next exposition of why and how we need to revamp requirements for immigration.

We have swung so far **to the right** that, were he alive and in politics today, Richard Nixon would be seen as a ‘flaming liberal’ – utterly unacceptable to the Republican Party (which he wouldn’t recognize), and probably too far left even for the neoliberal Democratic Party’s comfort.

Exactly. And given there are well over 1,000 mirror sites the point is moot. Plus the farcical ‘Espionage Act’ was written during another particularly acute period of American paranoia and in terms of justice, isn’t. Not even close.

Nor is that act enforceable for an Australian citizen who is merely an editor disseminating information, who is not even in the United States to commit this mythical ‘espionage’. The whole thought of AG Holder ‘considering’ this and other laws to attack Assange with would be laughable if it wasn’t so dangerous for our future civil rights.

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Have you ever heard of the “Deterrent Effect?” What about the future? Really, liberals are such surface-thinkers!”

I hope he supports the rule of law with reagrd to his wif’es conviction in Michigan.

Of course, Assange’s items show almost none of what you claim. Almost all of it consists of unflattering remarks made by US diplomats about their counterparts. But who wants to get in the way of a good narrative.

There needs to be a “Wikileaks” for state and local governments too. There’s chicanery going on wherever there is such a thing as government.

Crying out for justice and retaliation is why we are in Iraq and Afghanistan. This country needs to sit back, shut the fuck up and think for a change before speaking. Why is it that restraint is considered unpatriotic in the is country?

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Don’t use unofficial mirrors. Many of the mirror sites are using wikileaks as cover for installing malware on your computer. Beware beware beware of documents from these mirror sites. Go to the real thing.

It’s our constitutional freedoms and our cherished civil rights that are being sacrificed in the false service of our national security! It’s been happening for years now; and, it continues to happen every day! It’s just too bad that the majority of people are so polarized, by political associations, that they can’t seem to see that! Bush did it, Clinton did it, Bush did it, Obama is doing it; it’s the same garbage, just on a different day; same garbage, just different people in power doing it! Step out of the trance, and see the truth of that, before it’s too late! Amen.

P.S., If you think the Republicans, who were just elected to power, are going to save America; then, you’re believing a lie! They can’t, and, they won’t; America is going to fail and then it’s going to fall. All you can do now is accept that and prepare for it right now — while you still can! Amen.

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It’s our constitutional freedoms and our cherished civil rights that are being sacrificed in the false service of our national security! It’s been happening for years now; and, it continues to happen every day! It’s just too bad that the majority of people are so polarized, by political associations, that they can’t seem to see that! Bush did it, Clinton did it, Bush did it, Obama is doing it; it’s the same garbage, just on a different day; same garbage, just different people in power doing it! Step out of the trance, and see the truth of that, before it’s too late! Amen.

P.S., If you think the Republicans, who were just elected to power, are going to save America; then, you’re believing a lie! They can’t, and, they won’t; America is going to fail and then it’s going to fall. All you can do now is accept that and prepare for it right now — while you still can! Amen.

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That would be relevant if “Wikileaks” were a US business entity. Is it? I doubt it. Can Assange even be considered a criminal by violating US without actually being in the US or being a citizen of the US? This whole thing is getting disturbingly like a Mossad operation, IMO.

This is clearly a case that should be in the World Court jurisdiction, IMO. Is it against any world treaties to publish information that was delivered to the publisher legally even if the person doing the delivery broke laws in his home country to do so? I doubt it.

We executed Julius and Ethel Rosenberg for supposedly passing secrets to the former USSR so they could make their own bomb. I don’t recall anyone claiming that the USSR committed any crimes if the Rosenbergs did indeed do that.

In fact, isn’t what Wikileaks doing actually very similar to espionage operations that use only outside sources of information?

Except, of course, Wikileaks makes the info public, while the espionage agencies keep it within their own government. Every single government out there has espionage agencies (strictly speaking the correct term is intelligence gathering agency) like this, usually multiple ones – I believe the US alone has at least two hundred separate agencies like this.

The really puzzling part is why Sweden of all countries would want to involve itself in this.
I’m half Swedish and expect better of Sweden than that.

That would be relevant if “Wikileaks” were a US business entity. Is it? I doubt it. Can Assange even be considered a criminal by violating US without actually being in the US or being a citizen of the US? This whole thing is getting disturbingly like a Mossad operation, IMO.

This is clearly a case that should be in the World Court jurisdiction, IMO. Is it against any world treaties to publish information that was delivered to the publisher legally even if the person doing the delivery broke laws in his home country to do so? I doubt it.

We executed Julius and Ethel Rosenberg for supposedly passing secrets to the former USSR so they could make their own bomb. I don’t recall anyone claiming that the USSR committed any crimes if the Rosenbergs did indeed do that.

In fact, isn’t what Wikileaks doing actually very similar to espionage operations that use only outside sources of information?

Except, of course, Wikileaks makes the info public, while the espionage agencies keep it within their own government. Every single government out there has espionage agencies (strictly speaking the correct term is intelligence gathering agency) like this, usually multiple ones – I believe the US alone has at least two hundred separate agencies like this.

The really puzzling part is why Sweden of all countries would want to involve itself in this.
I’m half Swedish and expect better of Sweden than that.

That would be relevant if “Wikileaks” were a US business entity. Is it? I doubt it. Can Assange even be considered a criminal by violating US without actually being in the US or being a citizen of the US? This whole thing is getting disturbingly like a Mossad operation, IMO.

This is clearly a case that should be in the World Court jurisdiction, IMO. Is it against any world treaties to publish information that was delivered to the publisher legally even if the person doing the delivery broke laws in his home country to do so? I doubt it.

We executed Julius and Ethel Rosenberg for supposedly passing secrets to the former USSR so they could make their own bomb. I don’t recall anyone claiming that the USSR committed any crimes if the Rosenbergs did indeed do that.

In fact, isn’t what Wikileaks doing actually very similar to espionage operations that use only outside sources of information?

Except, of course, Wikileaks makes the info public, while the espionage agencies keep it within their own government. Every single government out there has espionage agencies (strictly speaking the correct term is intelligence gathering agency) like this, usually multiple ones – I believe the US alone has at least two hundred separate agencies like this.

The really puzzling part is why Sweden of all countries would want to involve itself in this.
I’m half Swedish and expect better of Sweden than that.

maybe you forgot about the video of a u.s.gunship slaughtering innocent people in iraq, an earlier wikileak release. i believe murder is considered illegal under international law. also, from what i understand, around 2,000 cables have been released…out of 250,000…so you might be talking a little prematurely about their contents.

maybe you forgot about the video of a u.s.gunship slaughtering innocent people in iraq, an earlier wikileak release. i believe murder is considered illegal under international law. also, from what i understand, around 2,000 cables have been released…out of 250,000…so you might be talking a little prematurely about their contents.

maybe you forgot about the video of a u.s.gunship slaughtering innocent people in iraq, an earlier wikileak release. i believe murder is considered illegal under international law. also, from what i understand, around 2,000 cables have been released…out of 250,000…so you might be talking a little prematurely about their contents.

maybe you forgot about the video of a u.s.gunship slaughtering innocent people in iraq, an earlier wikileak release. i believe murder is considered illegal under international law. also, from what i understand, around 2,000 cables have been released…out of 250,000…so you might be talking a little prematurely about their contents.

Yes, it’s offensive alright but not for the same reasons Mr. Conyers states. This shows just how out of touch so many of the politicians are. Most people find it offensive because of the “Truth Of The Content” (in other words the actions of our gov’t) not because of the “Actions In Leaking It.” I blog daily and every site that allows me to blog….90 plus percent speak highly of the leaks. The only sight so far that I blog on that censors nearly everything I say is Yahoo News. For example, they would censor this blog entirely. So whatever blogs you see on Yahoo News is greatly skewed. I wouldn’t buy into the Polls either because they can be greatly manipulated simply by how the questions are phrased. This is a proven fact.

It’s a tough one for AG Holder…. no doubt he’s being pressured to come up with something, anything, that might stick against WikiLeaks. Of course part of the problem is Assange is an Australian citizen and the Australian government has already stated that he hasn’t broken any laws in Australia.

And although technically, you don’t have to be a US citizen to be charged with espionage against the US, you do kinda have to be in the country and more to the point, stealing secrets to sell or act on behalf of another government you are at war with.

None of those things are in place in this case. The United States is not [officially] at war with any other country, therefore bringing a charge of espionage using the Act of 1917, ain’t gonna fly in my view. How can it? Assange could not by any stretch be considered an ‘enemy combatant’ under the Patriot Act, since that really has to assume the person intends to cause harm to the United States. If that were to happen, then the New York Times in 1971 was guilty of the same offence, and the NY Times, El Pais, The Guardian, Der Spiegel and Le Monde are all guilty of espionage today and should be ‘charged’ under the same Act.

That’s how nonsensical it’s become.

Since the UK, Germany, Australia and many other countries already embarrassed by the WikiLeaks revelations are not bringing anything remotely like a charge against Assange, the US would look foolish in the international arena if it made any serious attempt to extradite him on a trumped up 93-year-old charge.

Not that the US minds or cares about looking foolish abroad… so who knows.

I disagree with Conyers on nearly every other issue, but he is right about this.

I disagree with Conyers on nearly every other issue, but he is right about this.

Well dickhead, I don’t know what country you immigrated from, but I wish you would go back! In America we are suppose to have freedom of speech and freedom of the press! We started losing those rights over ten years ago when the gop partnered with fox news. It is no longer freedom of the press when it is controlled by a political party! You mentioned countries in your original comment that are far from Democracies and don’t have freedom of speech! If you admire these countries maybe you should try living under the conditions they offer. Since you immigrated here maybe you are not aware of our Democracy as it was meant to be. I have lived here my whole life as have generations before me. My Grandfather being an elected official and a pioneer helping to create towns, banks, newspapers and a highway system. I have seen our rights and freedoms slowly being eroded by the rich and powerful and it distresses me to no end. I think it is you who does not understand the U.S.! Coming to this country and trying to change it to meet your needs is ridiculous and self serving. The rest of us are fighting for our Democracy and Freedoms! We take them very serious here. Investigative reporting is necessary in a Democracy and is exactly what our forefathers deemed necessary for us to survive! It is obvious you do not understand what a Democracy is!

Well dickhead, I don’t know what country you immigrated from, but I wish you would go back! In America we are suppose to have freedom of speech and freedom of the press! We started losing those rights over ten years ago when the gop partnered with fox news. It is no longer freedom of the press when it is controlled by a political party! You mentioned countries in your original comment that are far from Democracies and don’t have freedom of speech! If you admire these countries maybe you should try living under the conditions they offer. Since you immigrated here maybe you are not aware of our Democracy as it was meant to be. I have lived here my whole life as have generations before me. My Grandfather being an elected official and a pioneer helping to create towns, banks, newspapers and a highway system. I have seen our rights and freedoms slowly being eroded by the rich and powerful and it distresses me to no end. I think it is you who does not understand the U.S.! Coming to this country and trying to change it to meet your needs is ridiculous and self serving. The rest of us are fighting for our Democracy and Freedoms! We take them very serious here. Investigative reporting is necessary in a Democracy and is exactly what our forefathers deemed necessary for us to survive! It is obvious you do not understand what a Democracy is!

Well dickhead, I don’t know what country you immigrated from, but I wish you would go back! In America we are suppose to have freedom of speech and freedom of the press! We started losing those rights over ten years ago when the gop partnered with fox news. It is no longer freedom of the press when it is controlled by a political party! You mentioned countries in your original comment that are far from Democracies and don’t have freedom of speech! If you admire these countries maybe you should try living under the conditions they offer. Since you immigrated here maybe you are not aware of our Democracy as it was meant to be. I have lived here my whole life as have generations before me. My Grandfather being an elected official and a pioneer helping to create towns, banks, newspapers and a highway system. I have seen our rights and freedoms slowly being eroded by the rich and powerful and it distresses me to no end. I think it is you who does not understand the U.S.! Coming to this country and trying to change it to meet your needs is ridiculous and self serving. The rest of us are fighting for our Democracy and Freedoms! We take them very serious here. Investigative reporting is necessary in a Democracy and is exactly what our forefathers deemed necessary for us to survive! It is obvious you do not understand what a Democracy is!

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What is offensive are the things our government has done in our name. Certainly there is a security issue that must be dealt with, but the cat is out of the bag. We’ve got to take a hard look at what our government has been up to. We are focusing way too much time on an Australian national who has no allegiance to this nation and no reason to not publish the leaks. We should be spending much more time looking at the leaks themselves and figuring out the crimes of our own people.

What is offensive are the things our government has done in our name. Certainly there is a security issue that must be dealt with, but the cat is out of the bag. We’ve got to take a hard look at what our government has been up to. We are focusing way too much time on an Australian national who has no allegiance to this nation and no reason to not publish the leaks. We should be spending much more time looking at the leaks themselves and figuring out the crimes of our own people.

What is offensive are the things our government has done in our name. Certainly there is a security issue that must be dealt with, but the cat is out of the bag. We’ve got to take a hard look at what our government has been up to. We are focusing way too much time on an Australian national who has no allegiance to this nation and no reason to not publish the leaks. We should be spending much more time looking at the leaks themselves and figuring out the crimes of our own people.

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