Officials: CIA gave waterboarders $5M legal shield

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Friday, December 17, 2010 8:27 EST
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Officials: CIA promised $5M in legal fees for psychologists who waterboarded detainees

The CIA agreed to cover at least $5 million in legal fees for two contractors who were the architects of the agency’s interrogation program and personally conducted dozens of waterboarding sessions on terror detainees, former U.S. officials said.

The secret agreement means taxpayers are paying to defend the men in a federal investigation over an interrogation tactic the U.S. now says is torture. The deal is even more generous than the protections the agency typically provides its own officers, giving the two men access to more money to finance their defense.

It has long been known that psychologists Jim Mitchell and Bruce Jessen created the CIA’s interrogation program. But former U.S. intelligence officials said Mitchell and Jessen also repeatedly subjected terror suspects inside CIA-run secret prisons to waterboarding, a simulated drowning tactic.

The revelation of the contractors’ involvement is the first known confirmation of any individuals who conducted waterboarding at the so-called black sites, underscoring just how much the agency relied on outside help in its most sensitive interrogations.

Normally, CIA officers buy insurance to cover possible legal bills. It costs about $300 a year for $1 million in coverage. Today, the CIA pays the premiums for most officers, but at the height of the war on terrorism, officers had to pay half.

The Mitchell and Jessen arrangement, known as an “indemnity promise,” was structured differently. Unlike CIA officers, whose identities are classified, Mitchell and Jessen were public citizens who received some of the earliest scrutiny by reporters and lawmakers. The two wanted more protection.

The agency agreed to pay the legal bills for the psychologists’ firm, Mitchell, Jessen & Associates, directly from CIA accounts, according to several interviews with the former officials, who insisted on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter.

The company has been embroiled in at least two high-profile Justice Department investigations, tapping the CIA to pay its legal bills. Neither Jamie Gorelick, who originally represented the company, nor Henry Schuelke, the current lawyer, returned messages seeking comment. Mitchell and Jessen also didn’t return calls for comment.

The CIA would not comment on any indemnity agreement.

“It’s been nearly eight years since waterboarding — an interrogation method used on three detainees — was last used as part of a terrorist detention program that no longer exists,” CIA spokesman George Little said.

After the terrorism attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, Mitchell and Jessen sold the government on an interrogation program for high-value al-Qaida members. The two psychologists had spent years training military officials to resist interrogations and, in doing so, had subjected U.S. troops to techniques such as forced nudity, painful stress positions, sleep deprivation and waterboarding.

But those interrogations had always been training sessions at the military’s school known as SERE — Survival, Evasion, Resistance, Escape. They had never conducted any actual interrogations.

That changed in 2002 with the capture of suspected al-Qaida facilitator Abu Zubaydah (ah-BOO’ zoo-BY’-dah). The agency believed tougher-than-usual tactics were necessary to squeeze information from him, so Mitchell and Jessen flew to a secret CIA prison in Thailand to oversee Zubaydah’s interrogation.

The pair waterboarded Zubaydah 83 times, according to previously released records and former intelligence officials. Mitchell and Jessen did the bulk of the work, claiming they were the only ones who knew how to apply the techniques properly, the former officials said.

The waterboarding technique involved “binding the detainee to a bench with his feet elevated above his head,” formerly top-secret documents explain. “The detainee’s head is immobilized and an interrogator places a cloth over the detainee’s mouth and nose while pouring water onto the cloth in a controlled manner.”

The documents add that “airflow is restricted for 20 to 40 seconds and the technique produces the sensation of drowning and suffocation.” The session was not supposed to last more than 20 minutes.

The psychologists also waterboarded USS Cole bombing plotter Abd al-Nashiri (ahbd al-nuh-SHEE’-ree) twice in Thailand, according to former intelligence officials.

The role of Mitchell and Jessen in the interrogation of confessed Sept. 11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is a bit murkier.

At least one other interrogator was involved in those sessions, with the company providing support, a former official said. Mohammed was waterboarded 183 times in Poland in 2003, according to documents and former intelligence officials.

The CIA inspector general concluded in a top secret report in 2004 that the waterboarding technique used by the CIA deviated from the rules outlined by the Justice Department and the common practice at SERE school. CIA interrogations involved far more water poured constantly over the prisoner, investigators said.

“One of the psychologists/interrogators acknowledged that the agency’s use of the technique differed from that used in SERE training and explained that the agency’s technique is different because it is `for real’ and is more poignant and convincing,” the inspector general’s report said.

It was not clear whether Mitchell or Jessen made that remark.

Justice Department prosecutor John Durham is investigating whether any CIA officers or contractors, including Mitchell and Jessen, should face criminal charges.

In at least two instances, Mitchell and Jessen pushed back. During Zubaydah’s interrogation, the psychologists argued he had endured enough waterboarding, believing they had reached the point of “diminishing returns.” But CIA superiors told them to press forward, two former officials said.

In another case, Mitchell and Jessen successfully argued against waterboarding admitted terrorist Ramzi Binalshibh (RAM’-zee bin-al-SHEEB’) in Poland, the official said.

On top of the waterboarding case, Mitchell and Jessen also needed lawyers to help navigate the Justice Department’s investigation into the destruction of CIA interrogation videos.

Mitchell and Jessen were recorded interrogating Zubaydah and al-Nashiri and were eager to see those tapes destroyed, fearing their release would jeopardize their safety, former officials and others close to the matter said.

They often contacted senior CIA officials, urging them to destroy the tapes and asking what was taking so long, said a person familiar with the Durham investigation who insisted on anonymity because the case’s details remain sensitive. Finally the CIA’s top clandestine officer, Jose Rodriguez, made the decision to destroy the tapes in November 2005.

Durham investigated whether that was a crime. He subpoenaed Mitchell, Jessen & Associates last year, looking for calendars, e-mails and phone records showing contact between the contractors and Rodriguez or his chief of staff, according to a federal subpoena. They were ordered to appear before a grand jury in northern Virginia in August 2009.

Last month, Durham closed the tapes destruction investigation without filing charges.

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  • Anonymous

    The US has become that which it fears and hates.

    The “terrorists” have won. Not the phony ones living in caves, who could never have achieved this kind of destruction in their wildest dreams. Not physical destruction. Moral destruction. The winners, those responsible for this, are the real terrorists, and they are wearing suits in Washington. Let history record their cowardice and shame for all time.

    “The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”

    “We have met the enemy, and he is US”.

  • Anonymous

    “The CIA agreed to cover at least $5 million in legal fees for two contractors who were the architects of the agency’s interrogation program and personally conducted dozens of waterboarding sessions on terror detainees…”

    is that $5 million tax payer money ?

  • Rush Goofbaugh

    actually no… it might be money they got from selling drugs… illegal weapons or money gotten directly from the fed. Reguardless, we will never “actually” know. But that’s a reasonable guess. lol.

  • Rush Goofbaugh

    actually no… it might be money they got from selling drugs… illegal weapons or money gotten directly from the fed. Reguardless, we will never “actually” know. But that’s a reasonable guess. lol.

  • Anonymous

    Cheapskates. That won’t go far at today’s prices. Can’t they bring more mexican drugs up from costa rica to help a bit more? Sheeesh.

  • Anonymous

    Cheapskates. That won’t go far at today’s prices. Can’t they bring more mexican drugs up from costa rica to help a bit more? Sheeesh.

  • Anonymous

    Nice. Now they are bringing back the old “duck and cover” days:

    http://hps.org/hsc/documents/Planning_Guidance_for_Response_to_a_Nuclear_Detonation-2nd_Edition_FINAL.pdf

    “You might find this 92 page booklet interesting, it was issued 4 days before President Bush left office in 2009.”…

    http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978801640

    Please, will you banksters give out small business loans so the Americans can hire contractors to add a bomb shelter to their residence? This will surely help the housing market.

    We can bring up old topics for discussion: “If your Muslim neighbor knocked on your bombshelter door, would you let them in?”.

    Reality shows, where they do an “Extreme Makeover” to your old bomb shelter.

  • Anonymous

    Nice. Now they are bringing back the old “duck and cover” days:

    http://hps.org/hsc/documents/Planning_Guidance_for_Response_to_a_Nuclear_Detonation-2nd_Edition_FINAL.pdf

    “You might find this 92 page booklet interesting, it was issued 4 days before President Bush left office in 2009.”…

    http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978801640

    Please, will you banksters give out small business loans so the Americans can hire contractors to add a bomb shelter to their residence? This will surely help the housing market.

    We can bring up old topics for discussion: “If your Muslim neighbor knocked on your bombshelter door, would you let them in?”.

    Reality shows, where they do an “Extreme Makeover” to your old bomb shelter.

  • Anonymous

    Nice. Now they are bringing back the old “duck and cover” days:

    http://hps.org/hsc/documents/Planning_Guidance_for_Response_to_a_Nuclear_Detonation-2nd_Edition_FINAL.pdf

    “You might find this 92 page booklet interesting, it was issued 4 days before President Bush left office in 2009.”…

    http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978801640

    Please, will you banksters give out small business loans so the Americans can hire contractors to add a bomb shelter to their residence? This will surely help the housing market.

    We can bring up old topics for discussion: “If your Muslim neighbor knocked on your bombshelter door, would you let them in?”.

    Reality shows, where they do an “Extreme Makeover” to your old bomb shelter.

  • Anonymous

    Nice. Now they are bringing back the old “duck and cover” days:

    http://hps.org/hsc/documents/Planning_Guidance_for_Response_to_a_Nuclear_Detonation-2nd_Edition_FINAL.pdf

    “You might find this 92 page booklet interesting, it was issued 4 days before President Bush left office in 2009.”…

    http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978801640

    Please, will you banksters give out small business loans so the Americans can hire contractors to add a bomb shelter to their residence? This will surely help the housing market.

    We can bring up old topics for discussion: “If your Muslim neighbor knocked on your bombshelter door, would you let them in?”.

    Reality shows, where they do an “Extreme Makeover” to your old bomb shelter.

  • H.P. Loathecraft

    Yes, taxpayers support this criminal enterprise. The drug trafficking and other sidelines supplement their classified budget but you can bet taxpayers are handing over between 100 and 150 billion annually to the CIA alone.

  • H.P. Loathecraft

    Yes, taxpayers support this criminal enterprise. The drug trafficking and other sidelines supplement their classified budget but you can bet taxpayers are handing over between 100 and 150 billion annually to the CIA alone.

  • H.P. Loathecraft

    Yes, taxpayers support this criminal enterprise. The drug trafficking and other sidelines supplement their classified budget but you can bet taxpayers are handing over between 100 and 150 billion annually to the CIA alone.

  • H.P. Loathecraft

    Yes, taxpayers support this criminal enterprise. The drug trafficking and other sidelines supplement their classified budget but you can bet taxpayers are handing over between 100 and 150 billion annually to the CIA alone.

  • H.P. Loathecraft

    Yes, taxpayers support this criminal enterprise. The drug trafficking and other sidelines supplement their classified budget but you can bet taxpayers are handing over between 100 and 150 billion annually to the CIA alone.

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  • Rush Goofbaugh

    Yes, of course you are correct… and according to some sources… the unclassified budget is many billions higher. We will never know. We can’t even get the fed to tell us where they put 2 trillion bucks… maybe the NSA, CIA?

  • Rush Goofbaugh

    Yes, of course you are correct… and according to some sources… the unclassified budget is many billions higher. We will never know. We can’t even get the fed to tell us where they put 2 trillion bucks… maybe the NSA, CIA?

  • Rush Goofbaugh

    Yes, of course you are correct… and according to some sources… the unclassified budget is many billions higher. We will never know. We can’t even get the fed to tell us where they put 2 trillion bucks… maybe the NSA, CIA?

  • Rush Goofbaugh

    Yes, of course you are correct… and according to some sources… the unclassified budget is many billions higher. We will never know. We can’t even get the fed to tell us where they put 2 trillion bucks… maybe the NSA, CIA?

  • Rush Goofbaugh

    Yes, of course you are correct… and according to some sources… the unclassified budget is many billions higher. We will never know. We can’t even get the fed to tell us where they put 2 trillion bucks… maybe the NSA, CIA?

  • Rush Goofbaugh

    Yes, of course you are correct… and according to some sources… the unclassified budget is many billions higher. We will never know. We can’t even get the fed to tell us where they put 2 trillion bucks… maybe the NSA, CIA?

  • Rush Goofbaugh

    Yes, of course you are correct… and according to some sources… the unclassified budget is many billions higher. We will never know. We can’t even get the fed to tell us where they put 2 trillion bucks… maybe the NSA, CIA?

  • Rush Goofbaugh

    Yes, of course you are correct… and according to some sources… the unclassified budget is many billions higher. We will never know. We can’t even get the fed to tell us where they put 2 trillion bucks… maybe the NSA, CIA?

  • Rush Goofbaugh

    Yes, of course you are correct… and according to some sources… the unclassified budget is many billions higher. We will never know. We can’t even get the fed to tell us where they put 2 trillion bucks… maybe the NSA, CIA?

  • Rush Goofbaugh

    Yes, of course you are correct… and according to some sources… the unclassified budget is many billions higher. We will never know. We can’t even get the fed to tell us where they put 2 trillion bucks… maybe the NSA, CIA?

  • Anonymous

    Right. Torture (ok, “simulated” drowning) worked so damned well that we had to use it nearly 200 times on one of the subjects.

    Mitchell and Jessen deserve to not only be stripped of their professional license/APA membership, they should be locked away for decades, in the same cell block as their CIA enablers and those in the Bush regime that provided them with marching orders.

    After WW2, we EXECUTED Japanese soldiers for waterboarding American soldiers.

    We have met the enemy, and he is us.

  • Anonymous

    Right. Torture (ok, “simulated” drowning) worked so damned well that we had to use it nearly 200 times on one of the subjects.

    Mitchell and Jessen deserve to not only be stripped of their professional license/APA membership, they should be locked away for decades, in the same cell block as their CIA enablers and those in the Bush regime that provided them with marching orders.

    After WW2, we EXECUTED Japanese soldiers for waterboarding American soldiers.

    We have met the enemy, and he is us.

  • Anonymous

    Right. Torture (ok, “simulated” drowning) worked so damned well that we had to use it nearly 200 times on one of the subjects.

    Mitchell and Jessen deserve to not only be stripped of their professional license/APA membership, they should be locked away for decades, in the same cell block as their CIA enablers and those in the Bush regime that provided them with marching orders.

    After WW2, we EXECUTED Japanese soldiers for waterboarding American soldiers.

    We have met the enemy, and he is us.

  • Anonymous

    Right. Torture (ok, “simulated” drowning) worked so damned well that we had to use it nearly 200 times on one of the subjects.

    Mitchell and Jessen deserve to not only be stripped of their professional license/APA membership, they should be locked away for decades, in the same cell block as their CIA enablers and those in the Bush regime that provided them with marching orders.

    After WW2, we EXECUTED Japanese soldiers for waterboarding American soldiers.

    We have met the enemy, and he is us.

  • Anonymous

    Right. Torture (ok, “simulated” drowning) worked so damned well that we had to use it nearly 200 times on one of the subjects.

    Mitchell and Jessen deserve to not only be stripped of their professional license/APA membership, they should be locked away for decades, in the same cell block as their CIA enablers and those in the Bush regime that provided them with marching orders.

    After WW2, we EXECUTED Japanese soldiers for waterboarding American soldiers.

    We have met the enemy, and he is us.

  • Anonymous

    Right. Torture (ok, “simulated” drowning) worked so damned well that we had to use it nearly 200 times on one of the subjects.

    Mitchell and Jessen deserve to not only be stripped of their professional license/APA membership, they should be locked away for decades, in the same cell block as their CIA enablers and those in the Bush regime that provided them with marching orders.

    After WW2, we EXECUTED Japanese soldiers for waterboarding American soldiers.

    We have met the enemy, and he is us.

  • Anonymous

    Right. Torture (ok, “simulated” drowning) worked so damned well that we had to use it nearly 200 times on one of the subjects.

    Mitchell and Jessen deserve to not only be stripped of their professional license/APA membership, they should be locked away for decades, in the same cell block as their CIA enablers and those in the Bush regime that provided them with marching orders.

    After WW2, we EXECUTED Japanese soldiers for waterboarding American soldiers.

    We have met the enemy, and he is us.

  • Anonymous

    Right. Torture (ok, “simulated” drowning) worked so damned well that we had to use it nearly 200 times on one of the subjects.

    Mitchell and Jessen deserve to not only be stripped of their professional license/APA membership, they should be locked away for decades, in the same cell block as their CIA enablers and those in the Bush regime that provided them with marching orders.

    After WW2, we EXECUTED Japanese soldiers for waterboarding American soldiers.

    We have met the enemy, and he is us.

  • Anonymous

    Right. Torture (ok, “simulated” drowning) worked so damned well that we had to use it nearly 200 times on one of the subjects.

    Mitchell and Jessen deserve to not only be stripped of their professional license/APA membership, they should be locked away for decades, in the same cell block as their CIA enablers and those in the Bush regime that provided them with marching orders.

    After WW2, we EXECUTED Japanese soldiers for waterboarding American soldiers.

    We have met the enemy, and he is us.

  • Anonymous

    Right. Torture (ok, “simulated” drowning) worked so damned well that we had to use it nearly 200 times on one of the subjects.

    Mitchell and Jessen deserve to not only be stripped of their professional license/APA membership, they should be locked away for decades, in the same cell block as their CIA enablers and those in the Bush regime that provided them with marching orders.

    After WW2, we EXECUTED Japanese soldiers for waterboarding American soldiers.

    We have met the enemy, and he is us.

  • Anonymous

    Wow. I have GOT to learn to read all prior posts before grabbing the keyboard.

  • Anonymous

    Wow. I have GOT to learn to read all prior posts before grabbing the keyboard.

  • Anonymous

    Wow. I have GOT to learn to read all prior posts before grabbing the keyboard.

  • Anonymous

    Wow. I have GOT to learn to read all prior posts before grabbing the keyboard.

  • Anonymous

    Wow. I have GOT to learn to read all prior posts before grabbing the keyboard.

  • Anonymous

    Wow. I have GOT to learn to read all prior posts before grabbing the keyboard.

  • Anonymous

    Wow. I have GOT to learn to read all prior posts before grabbing the keyboard.

  • Anonymous

    Wow. I have GOT to learn to read all prior posts before grabbing the keyboard.

  • Anonymous

    Wow. I have GOT to learn to read all prior posts before grabbing the keyboard.

  • Anonymous

    Wow. I have GOT to learn to read all prior posts before grabbing the keyboard.

  • Anonymous

    Wow. I have GOT to learn to read all prior posts before grabbing the keyboard.

  • Anonymous

    Wow. I have GOT to learn to read all prior posts before grabbing the keyboard.

  • Anonymous

    Wow. I have GOT to learn to read all prior posts before grabbing the keyboard.

  • Anonymous

    Nah…we have met the enemy, kicked his ass and then executed a few of the bastards just to show them that we did win, and….. greased a few of the ones that used waterboarding just for fun. Please don’t cry now, lib! Try not to cry.

  • Anonymous

    Nah…we have met the enemy, kicked his ass and then executed a few of the bastards just to show them that we did win, and….. greased a few of the ones that used waterboarding just for fun. Please don’t cry now, lib! Try not to cry.

  • Anonymous

    Nah…we have met the enemy, kicked his ass and then executed a few of the bastards just to show them that we did win, and….. greased a few of the ones that used waterboarding just for fun. Please don’t cry now, lib! Try not to cry.

  • Anonymous

    Nah…we have met the enemy, kicked his ass and then executed a few of the bastards just to show them that we did win, and….. greased a few of the ones that used waterboarding just for fun. Please don’t cry now, lib! Try not to cry.

  • Anonymous

    Nah…we have met the enemy, kicked his ass and then executed a few of the bastards just to show them that we did win, and….. greased a few of the ones that used waterboarding just for fun. Please don’t cry now, lib! Try not to cry.

  • Anonymous

    Nah…we have met the enemy, kicked his ass and then executed a few of the bastards just to show them that we did win, and….. greased a few of the ones that used waterboarding just for fun. Please don’t cry now, lib! Try not to cry.

  • Anonymous

    Nah…we have met the enemy, kicked his ass and then executed a few of the bastards just to show them that we did win, and….. greased a few of the ones that used waterboarding just for fun. Please don’t cry now, lib! Try not to cry.

  • Anonymous

    Nah…we have met the enemy, kicked his ass and then executed a few of the bastards just to show them that we did win, and….. greased a few of the ones that used waterboarding just for fun. Please don’t cry now, lib! Try not to cry.

  • Anonymous

    Nah…we have met the enemy, kicked his ass and then executed a few of the bastards just to show them that we did win, and….. greased a few of the ones that used waterboarding just for fun. Please don’t cry now, lib! Try not to cry.

  • Anonymous

    Nah…we have met the enemy, kicked his ass and then executed a few of the bastards just to show them that we did win, and….. greased a few of the ones that used waterboarding just for fun. Please don’t cry now, lib! Try not to cry.

  • Anonymous

    Nah…we have met the enemy, kicked his ass and then executed a few of the bastards just to show them that we did win, and….. greased a few of the ones that used waterboarding just for fun. Please don’t cry now, lib! Try not to cry.

  • Anonymous

    Nah…we have met the enemy, kicked his ass and then executed a few of the bastards just to show them that we did win, and….. greased a few of the ones that used waterboarding just for fun. Please don’t cry now, lib! Try not to cry.

  • Anonymous

    Nah…we have met the enemy, kicked his ass and then executed a few of the bastards just to show them that we did win, and….. greased a few of the ones that used waterboarding just for fun. Please don’t cry now, lib! Try not to cry.

  • Anonymous

    Nah…we have met the enemy, kicked his ass and then executed a few of the bastards just to show them that we did win, and….. greased a few of the ones that used waterboarding just for fun. Please don’t cry now, lib! Try not to cry.

  • Anonymous

    Nah…we have met the enemy, kicked his ass and then executed a few of the bastards just to show them that we did win, and….. greased a few of the ones that used waterboarding just for fun. Please don’t cry now, lib! Try not to cry.

  • Anonymous

    Hey Rush…. want to know why Nancy Pelosi could never be waterboarded????

  • Anonymous

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  • Anonymous

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  • Anonymous

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  • Anonymous

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  • Anonymous

    Hey Rush…. want to know why Nancy Pelosi could never be waterboarded????

  • Anonymous

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  • Anonymous

    Nancy Pelosi could never ever EVER be waterboarded…. Because she has to sneak up on a glass of water just to get a drink!!!

  • Anonymous

    Nancy Pelosi could never ever EVER be waterboarded…. Because she has to sneak up on a glass of water just to get a drink!!!

  • Anonymous

    Nancy Pelosi could never ever EVER be waterboarded…. Because she has to sneak up on a glass of water just to get a drink!!!

  • Anonymous

    Nancy Pelosi could never ever EVER be waterboarded…. Because she has to sneak up on a glass of water just to get a drink!!!

  • Anonymous

    Nancy Pelosi could never ever EVER be waterboarded…. Because she has to sneak up on a glass of water just to get a drink!!!

  • Anonymous

    Nancy Pelosi could never ever EVER be waterboarded…. Because she has to sneak up on a glass of water just to get a drink!!!

  • Anonymous

    Nancy Pelosi could never ever EVER be waterboarded…. Because she has to sneak up on a glass of water just to get a drink!!!

  • Anonymous

    Nancy Pelosi could never ever EVER be waterboarded…. Because she has to sneak up on a glass of water just to get a drink!!!

  • Anonymous

    Nancy Pelosi could never ever EVER be waterboarded…. Because she has to sneak up on a glass of water just to get a drink!!!

  • Anonymous

    Nancy Pelosi could never ever EVER be waterboarded…. Because she has to sneak up on a glass of water just to get a drink!!!

  • Anonymous

    Nancy Pelosi could never ever EVER be waterboarded…. Because she has to sneak up on a glass of water just to get a drink!!!

  • Anonymous

    Nancy Pelosi could never ever EVER be waterboarded…. Because she has to sneak up on a glass of water just to get a drink!!!

  • Anonymous

    Nancy Pelosi could never ever EVER be waterboarded…. Because she has to sneak up on a glass of water just to get a drink!!!

  • Anonymous

    Nancy Pelosi could never ever EVER be waterboarded…. Because she has to sneak up on a glass of water just to get a drink!!!

  • Anonymous

    Nancy Pelosi could never ever EVER be waterboarded…. Because she has to sneak up on a glass of water just to get a drink!!!

  • Anonymous

    Nancy Pelosi could never ever EVER be waterboarded…. Because she has to sneak up on a glass of water just to get a drink!!!

  • Anonymous

    Nancy Pelosi could never ever EVER be waterboarded…. Because she has to sneak up on a glass of water just to get a drink!!!

  • Anonymous

    Nancy Pelosi could never ever EVER be waterboarded…. Because she has to sneak up on a glass of water just to get a drink!!!

  • Anonymous

    Nancy Pelosi could never ever EVER be waterboarded…. Because she has to sneak up on a glass of water just to get a drink!!!

  • Anonymous

    Nancy Pelosi could never ever EVER be waterboarded…. Because she has to sneak up on a glass of water just to get a drink!!!

  • Anonymous

    Nancy Pelosi could never ever EVER be waterboarded…. Because she has to sneak up on a glass of water just to get a drink!!!

  • Anonymous

    Nancy Pelosi could never ever EVER be waterboarded…. Because she has to sneak up on a glass of water just to get a drink!!!

  • Anonymous

    Nancy Pelosi could never ever EVER be waterboarded…. Because she has to sneak up on a glass of water just to get a drink!!!

  • Anonymous

    Nancy Pelosi could never ever EVER be waterboarded…. Because she has to sneak up on a glass of water just to get a drink!!!

  • Anonymous

    Nancy Pelosi could never ever EVER be waterboarded…. Because she has to sneak up on a glass of water just to get a drink!!!

  • Anonymous

    Nancy Pelosi could never ever EVER be waterboarded…. Because she has to sneak up on a glass of water just to get a drink!!!

  • Anonymous

    Nancy Pelosi could never ever EVER be waterboarded…. Because she has to sneak up on a glass of water just to get a drink!!!

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  • Anonymous

    Screw off, troll.

    Until you (finally) have something of value to post, you won’t be seeing me take the bait.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    This is sickening! To think that not only were all of these crimes perpetrated with our tax dollars but, when push comes to shove, we even have to pay for the defense of these criminals. The question here should be: why is The Hague not sharpening those blades on their guillotines? What was good for Mengala should be good for these monsters too.

  • Anonymous

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  • Johnny Warbucks

    I think that’s ‘Mexican drugs from Colombia’ not Costa Rica.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZDBCUTOR7XW24NTIF7XEHLJ34Q Oz

    It would have been a lot cheaper to hire a couple cops from Tijuana. They pour hot pepper into sparkling water, shake the bottle, and then squirt the mix up the nostrils and into the sinuses. In a pinch they use carbonated soda pop. From what I understand once is enough.

    But I’m not surprised that Jamie Gorelick took their case. If you read the books written by Peter Lance you’ll understand why she’s a real scumbag and probably helped these guys get the money to pay her.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Under separate cover, however, those 23 thugs who were found guilty in Italy of everything under the sun from kidnap to torture have been re-convicted on appeal and their sentences increased. Yet, they’ll never serve a day because Big Daddy is taking care of its boys. Gotta wonder why Interpol is not busy looking for them. Oh, never mind that, I forgot they’re busy trying to get Assange.

    Italy court ups sentences for 23 CIA agents
    Americans were tried in absentia in the kidnapping of Egyptian terror suspect

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40682905/ns/world_news-europe/

    ROME — An Italian appeals court on Wednesday increased the sentences against 23 Americans convicted in the kidnapping of an Egyptian terror suspect who was part of the CIA’s extraordinary renditions program.

    In upholding the convictions, the court added one year to the eight-year term handed down to former Milan CIA station chief Robert Seldon Lady and two years to the five-year terms given to 22 other Americans convicted along with him, defense lawyers said.

    They were never in Italian custody and were tried and convicted in absentia but risk arrest if they travel to Europe.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, the American public has met the enemy, and now they are suffering and dying. Your people are physically suffering and dying, your precious constitution and moral values and idealistic pronouncements about freedom, liberty and democracy are suffering and dying, and your wealth is suffering and dying. In essence, Americans have kicked their own ass.

    I would say that is far worse than executing “a few” bastards. But if that is what makes you feel better when you sleep at night, if a little retribution for a whole lot of pain is what you’re after, then be my guest. Just keep on telling yourself and everyone else how wonderful you are, and how great things are. I will only smile and nod my head as I watch the unsinkable Titanic go down. Maybe I might even wonder why you so stubbornly refused to listen, to understand and see what was really happening. Maybe, I might. But I don’t think so.

    This lib won’t cry for you now… or later. I will only smile.

  • Anonymous

    These are not the men we want. We are pursuing bit players, while the men who gave the orders get away. Notice the line about their CIA superiors? Name them. The who are their superiors? All we need is the top man who gave thew order. The rest are pawns.

  • Ed Dominguez

    Spend 5 million on this no one cries, spend 5 million on health care the GOP cries foul! Willing to pay to revoke your rights, but none to keep you healthy, or without a lawyer.

  • Ed Dominguez

    Spend 5 million on this no one cries, spend 5 million on health care the GOP cries foul! Willing to pay to revoke your rights, but none to keep you healthy, or without a lawyer.

  • Anonymous

    Great. Another flamer. I’m not going to take the bait either.

  • Anonymous

    Can you POSSIBLY be any more stupid, foolish, dense, idiotic, moronic, or more just plain WRONG? God, you must LIKE being a total idiot. You spend your entire time here doing so. You are an embarrassment as a human being.

  • Rush Goofbaugh

    i’ll bite… why? perfect vision… I still have the braces…. invisalign… lol

  • Anonymous

    Yes you will lib…. you will cry for me….you know you will. you can’t help it, that’s what make you a lib….Thanks for caring about me though.

  • Anonymous

    you just did

  • Anonymous

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  • Anonymous

    isn’t it…”we have met the enemy and ‘they are’ us?

  • Anonymous

    yeah larry from the posts you make, you should be more careful about what you’re grabbing.

  • Rush Goofbaugh

    Cruel and funny… well deserved for someone that would “take impeachment off the table”.

  • Rush Goofbaugh

    Cruel and funny… well deserved for someone that would “take impeachment off the table”.

  • Anonymous

    A seemingly forgotten ongoing investigation (ongoing for years, I might add) is being conducted by the lovely Ms. Dianne Feinstein, the duplicitous bitch married to the mob in terms of the MIC. As Chair of the Judiciary Committee, the radiant Di-Fi promised us little people she would reveal the truth regarding the torture cover-ups. She is a liar. She loses her chair at midnight, December 31, 2010 and her investigation will die with this congress.

  • Anonymous

    A seemingly forgotten ongoing investigation (ongoing for years, I might add) is being conducted by the lovely Ms. Dianne Feinstein, the duplicitous bitch married to the mob in terms of the MIC. As Chair of the Judiciary Committee, the radiant Di-Fi promised us little people she would reveal the truth regarding the torture cover-ups. She is a liar. She loses her chair at midnight, December 31, 2010 and her investigation will die with this congress.

  • Anonymous

    You’re delusional thinking you know what makes so-called libs tick. I’m not even a liberal. I’m not even an American, thankfully, because if I was I would be looking elsewhere to move. I’ve been to your country, many times. I’ve seen the poor shithole boarded up malls in the towns where everyone is miserable and broke. It’s nothing to be proud of, so get over yourself.

    I couldn’t care two shits about you, or your friends, or your family, or your precious American values. I simply call it as I see it.

    What I do care about is my children’s future, which your people are seriously threatening.

    Keep thinking that you’re cared for and loved, because it’s all you got left.

    We don’t. We are long over you.

  • Anonymous

    You’re delusional thinking you know what makes so-called libs tick. I’m not even a liberal. I’m not even an American, thankfully, because if I was I would be looking elsewhere to move. I’ve been to your country, many times. I’ve seen the poor shithole boarded up malls in the towns where everyone is miserable and broke. It’s nothing to be proud of, so get over yourself.

    I couldn’t care two shits about you, or your friends, or your family, or your precious American values. I simply call it as I see it.

    What I do care about is my children’s future, which your people are seriously threatening.

    Keep thinking that you’re cared for and loved, because it’s all you got left.

    We don’t. We are long over you.

  • Anonymous

    You’re delusional thinking you know what makes so-called libs tick. I’m not even a liberal. I’m not even an American, thankfully, because if I was I would be looking elsewhere to move. I’ve been to your country, many times. I’ve seen the poor shithole boarded up malls in the towns where everyone is miserable and broke. It’s nothing to be proud of, so get over yourself.

    I couldn’t care two shits about you, or your friends, or your family, or your precious American values. I simply call it as I see it.

    What I do care about is my children’s future, which your people are seriously threatening.

    Keep thinking that you’re cared for and loved, because it’s all you got left.

    We don’t. We are long over you.

  • TheDevilCanDance

    Brilliant retort :)

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  • Anonymous

    No. I’ll save you a simple Google search. It’s from Walt Kelly’s 1971 Pogo comic strip and it is “he is us.”

  • Anonymous

    No. I’ll save you a simple Google search. It’s from Walt Kelly’s 1971 Pogo comic strip and it is “he is us.”

  • Anonymous

    No. I’ll save you a simple Google search. It’s from Walt Kelly’s 1971 Pogo comic strip and it is “he is us.”

  • Anonymous

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  • Anonymous

    The amount may stun some here, but it’s not all White House officials, are protected completely monetarily in any lawsuits resulting from their activities while in office or at the service of the United States government. These people had a monetary ceiling placed on their legal defense because they weren’t appointed officials but because they were private contractors doing government work. These same provisions are probably made for most private contractors working for the United States government. These legal responsibilities and their attendant costs is probably one of the reasons why American contractors were protected by the Coalition Provisional Authority, that is, the Iraqi government under L. Paul Bremer, from lawsuits or legal responsibility whatsoever. That is, they were completely outside the law; rape, murder, pillage, was and is for American contractors operating in Iraq still completely without punishment.

  • Anonymous

    spychiatrists also worked with the CIA in the 1950s development of MK Ultra, a demonic torture and brainwashing technology which is now the core torture tech of the leading torturing nation on the earth, the USA. i support the use of shock treatment on shrinks by shrinks. just leave em plugged in…

  • TheDevilCanDance

    “Nah…we have met the enemy, kicked his ass”.

    I have no idea what you are smoking but your dealer is not making a fool out of you,lol.
    “kicked his ass”, you cannot even deal with a bunch of ragtags in Iraq & Afghanistan, the strongest military in the world is nothing but a paper tiger, a shadow of itself……

    “we have met the enemy..”. you tool part in something? , I Don’t think so, Hahaha

  • TheDevilCanDance

    “Nah…we have met the enemy, kicked his ass”.

    I have no idea what you are smoking but your dealer is not making a fool out of you,lol.
    “kicked his ass”, you cannot even deal with a bunch of ragtags in Iraq & Afghanistan, the strongest military in the world is nothing but a paper tiger, a shadow of itself……

    “we have met the enemy..”. you tool part in something? , I Don’t think so, Hahaha

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1046573071 Matt Mosley

    What are psychologists doing waterboarding people?

    I think people who need to waterboard NEED a psychologist.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/GCPX7DXZGK2H2CPNYRR5IS5A64 Turnip Mcgee

    By extension, I am paying, through my life’s labor, to torture and exterminate humans abroad.

    Think I’ll take the day off again.

  • Anonymous

    No I am trolling and you are replying to me now.

  • Anonymous

    No I am trolling and you are replying to me now.

  • Anonymous

    We have ways of making them talk…

  • Anonymous

    Does this tell US , just who is running and controlling our policies ans country.

  • Anonymous

    Goddamn it!!! There are not enough cuss words in the English language to express my feelings about this. Ben Bradley in All the President’s Men, said, “when is someone going to go on the record and tell the truth.” It sure smells like Nixon all over again, add in Bush and we have an explosive mix of ugly corruption on a scale never before imagined. These bastard psychologists should get a taste of their own medicine. One person was water-boarded 83 times? If torture was so effective one time should have been enough, right? $5 million as hush money is nothing more than you will be well compensated, just be the fall guy and keep your mouth shut. Rodriguez destroys evidence and is not arrested for obstruction of justice? Shit, hush money, bribes, obstruction of justice, war crimes all white-washed and swept under the carpet, and all will soon be forgotten. Wrong, all these bastards should be sent to prison and thrown into the general population. A little karma is in order here.

  • Anonymous

    Goddamn it!!! There are not enough cuss words in the English language to express my feelings about this. Ben Bradley in All the President’s Men, said, “when is someone going to go on the record and tell the truth.” It sure smells like Nixon all over again, add in Bush and we have an explosive mix of ugly corruption on a scale never before imagined. These bastard psychologists should get a taste of their own medicine. One person was water-boarded 83 times? If torture was so effective one time should have been enough, right? $5 million as hush money is nothing more than you will be well compensated, just be the fall guy and keep your mouth shut. Rodriguez destroys evidence and is not arrested for obstruction of justice? Shit, hush money, bribes, obstruction of justice, war crimes all white-washed and swept under the carpet, and all will soon be forgotten. Wrong, all these bastards should be sent to prison and thrown into the general population. A little karma is in order here.

  • Anonymous

    Goddamn it!!! There are not enough cuss words in the English language to express my feelings about this. Ben Bradley in All the President’s Men, said, “when is someone going to go on the record and tell the truth.” It sure smells like Nixon all over again, add in Bush and we have an explosive mix of ugly corruption on a scale never before imagined. These bastard psychologists should get a taste of their own medicine. One person was water-boarded 83 times? If torture was so effective one time should have been enough, right? $5 million as hush money is nothing more than you will be well compensated, just be the fall guy and keep your mouth shut. Rodriguez destroys evidence and is not arrested for obstruction of justice? Shit, hush money, bribes, obstruction of justice, war crimes all white-washed and swept under the carpet, and all will soon be forgotten. Wrong, all these bastards should be sent to prison and thrown into the general population. A little karma is in order here.

  • Anonymous

    I definitely have a conflict of interest here: my taxes are going to defend these war criminals?! When I want my taxes to be used to hang these war criminals, along with the Bush cabal!? This is so twisted. My taxes are being used against me. Friends, either my government is trying to drive me crazy or my loss of sanity is just a side affect. The result is the same.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1432028332 Linda Williams

    What part of your body do you think with? You obviously do not even know WHO the enemy is. I think a good cry might help YOU.

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    What part of your body do you think with? You obviously do not even know WHO the enemy is. I think a good cry might help YOU.

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    What part of your body do you think with? You obviously do not even know WHO the enemy is. I think a good cry might help YOU.

  • Pangur Ban

    Hiya – Did you know you’re email’s domain cut you off?

  • http://www.infiniteunknown.net/2010/12/18/us-officials-cia-promised-5-million-in-legal-fees-for-psychologists-who-waterboarded-detainees/ US Officials: CIA Promised $5 Million In Legal Fees For Psychologists Who Waterboarded Detainees

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