Exclusive: US empire could collapse at any time, Pulitzer winner tells Raw Story

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America’s military and economic empire could collapse at any time, but predicting the precise day, week or month of its potential demise is unattainable, according to a former New York Times war correspondent who spoke with Raw Story.

“The when and how is very dangerous to predict because there’s always some factor that blindsides you that you didn’t expect,” Pulitzer-winning journalist Chris Hedges said in an exclusive interview. “It doesn’t look good. But exactly how it plays out and when it plays out, having covered disintegrating societies, it’s impossible to tell.”

He explained that he learned this lesson as events unfolded around him in the fall of 1989. Then, members of the opposition to the Soviet Empire told him that they predicted travel across the Berlin Wall separating East from West Germany would open within the year.

“Within a few hours, the wall didn’t exist,” he said.

Hedges was one of the 131 activists were arrested in an act of civil disobedience outside the White House yesterday, even as Obama was unveiling a new report citing progress in the Afghanistan war.

Speaking to Raw Story on Wednesday night, he said the signs of US collapse are plain to see and compared the country’s course through Afghanistan to Soviet Russia’s.

“We’re losing [the war in Afghanistan] in the same way the Red Army lost it,” he said. “It’s exactly the same configuration where we sort of control the urban centers where 20 percent of the population lives. The rest of the country where 80 percent of the Afghans live is either in the hands of the Taliban or disputed.”

“Foreigners will not walk the streets of Kabul because of kidnapping, and journalists regularly meet Taliban officials in Kabul because the whole apparatus is so porous and corrupt,” he said.

One day after this interview was conducted, reports hit the global media noting the CIA’s warning to President Obama, that the Pakistan-supported Taliban could still regain control of the country.

Hedges predicted that President Obama’s war report released Thursday would “contradict not only [US] intelligence reports but everything else that is coming out of Afghanistan.”

His prediction came startlingly true: the CIA’s own assessment was said to stand in striking contrast with President Obama’s report.

Defense Secretary Robert Gates, however, insisted that the US controlled more territory in Afghanistan than it did a year ago.

‘A corporate coup d’état in slow motion’

Hedges said he attended the protest and planned to get arrested because he is against the corporate powers that have enveloped the nation.

“We’ve undergone a corporate coup d’état in slow motion,” he said. “Our public education system has been gutted. Our infrastructure is corroding and collapsing. Unless we begin to physically resist, they are going to solidify neo-feudalism in this country.”

“If we think that Obama is bad, watch the next two years because these corporate forces have turned their back on him,” Hedges warned.

Hedges, author of “Death of the Liberal Class,” said that his vision of America is one with a functioning social democracy, which stands in stark contrast to the nihilism of the corporate state.

“American workers, as they are repeatedly told, will have to become competitive with prison labor in China,” he said. “That’s where we’re headed, and all the pillars of the liberal establishment are complicit in this.”

“At least if you get sick in the UK, you don’t go bankrupt or die,” he added.

Hedges said that another pressure point is the US dollar, which he pointed out had been dropped by Russia and China in favor of modified ruble/renminbi exchanges.

“A few more deals like that, and our currency becomes junk,” he said.

Hedges continued, “As long as we have relative stability, these lunatic fringe movements can be held at bay, but if we don’t undertake serious structural reform, which we’re not doing, then it is inevitable that we will come to a tremendous crisis – economic and political as well as environmental.”

This video, featuring portions of a speech given by Chris Hedges, was shot outside the White House on Dec. 16, 2010.

Updated from an original version.

With editing by Stephen C. Webster.

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  • Anonymous

    I been saying that all my life…

    Just that soon I shall see it for real

  • Anonymous

    I been saying that all my life…

    Just that soon I shall see it for real

  • Anonymous

    I been saying that all my life…

    Just that soon I shall see it for real

  • Anonymous

    I been saying that all my life…

    Just that soon I shall see it for real

  • Anonymous

    I been saying that all my life…

    Just that soon I shall see it for real

  • Anonymous

    I been saying that all my life…

    Just that soon I shall see it for real

  • Anonymous

    I been saying that all my life…

    Just that soon I shall see it for real

  • Anonymous

    I been saying that all my life…

    Just that soon I shall see it for real

  • Anonymous

    I been saying that all my life…

    Just that soon I shall see it for real

  • Anonymous

    I been saying that all my life…

    Just that soon I shall see it for real

  • Anonymous

    I been saying that all my life…

    Just that soon I shall see it for real

  • Anonymous

    “porrus”?

    “. . . if you get sick in Briton. . .”

    Arrrgggghhh!!! Stephen C. Webster, you’re not doing a very good job of editing.

    This is a perfect illustration of why I can’t / won’t forward Raw Story’s articles to anyone else. It’s a real shame!

  • Anonymous

    “porrus”?

    “. . . if you get sick in Briton. . .”

    Arrrgggghhh!!! Stephen C. Webster, you’re not doing a very good job of editing.

    This is a perfect illustration of why I can’t / won’t forward Raw Story’s articles to anyone else. It’s a real shame!

  • Anonymous

    “porrus”?

    “. . . if you get sick in Briton. . .”

    Arrrgggghhh!!! Stephen C. Webster, you’re not doing a very good job of editing.

    This is a perfect illustration of why I can’t / won’t forward Raw Story’s articles to anyone else. It’s a real shame!

  • Anonymous

    “porrus”?

    “. . . if you get sick in Briton. . .”

    Arrrgggghhh!!! Stephen C. Webster, you’re not doing a very good job of editing.

    This is a perfect illustration of why I can’t / won’t forward Raw Story’s articles to anyone else. It’s a real shame!

  • Anonymous

    “porrus”?

    “. . . if you get sick in Briton. . .”

    Arrrgggghhh!!! Stephen C. Webster, you’re not doing a very good job of editing.

    This is a perfect illustration of why I can’t / won’t forward Raw Story’s articles to anyone else. It’s a real shame!

  • Anonymous

    “porrus”?

    “. . . if you get sick in Briton. . .”

    Arrrgggghhh!!! Stephen C. Webster, you’re not doing a very good job of editing.

    This is a perfect illustration of why I can’t / won’t forward Raw Story’s articles to anyone else. It’s a real shame!

  • Anonymous

    “porrus”?

    “. . . if you get sick in Briton. . .”

    Arrrgggghhh!!! Stephen C. Webster, you’re not doing a very good job of editing.

    This is a perfect illustration of why I can’t / won’t forward Raw Story’s articles to anyone else. It’s a real shame!

  • Anonymous

    “porrus”?

    “. . . if you get sick in Briton. . .”

    Arrrgggghhh!!! Stephen C. Webster, you’re not doing a very good job of editing.

    This is a perfect illustration of why I can’t / won’t forward Raw Story’s articles to anyone else. It’s a real shame!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    Seems every generation has their “this is the end!” crowd. I’ve always known something was going to break here in the U.S. given the push for corporate fascism, but when I heard that the fear seemed to be a generational thing, I put it out of my mind.. until 2001 through 2003. After we were attacked (with the help of either incompetence or vile collusion of our Government) in 2001 -everyone- knew something was serious… as we slid into 2003 and the illegal invasion of Iraq, watching the lies and bullshit on TV and seeing how many morons in this country lapped it all up, I knew the end was, in fact, on the way.. it was just a matter of time.

    Of course, “end” is a relative term. I don’t know how “far down” we’ll go; I doubt we’ll be doing Mad Max in neighborhoods near you (and me).. that’s just not how things work. But it isn’t going to be pretty, the long hard rebuilding after the crash.

    We have land for food.. we have mountains full of minerals for production.. we have a crapload of space to grow shittons of hemp for textiles… we just need to take ownership of those things/spaces back from the few that are holding them hostage today. The ultimate outcome of the long running abuse of this country will probably result in a Democratic Socialism by the time all is said and done. I just hope I’m still around to see it when it finally happens.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    Seems every generation has their “this is the end!” crowd. I’ve always known something was going to break here in the U.S. given the push for corporate fascism, but when I heard that the fear seemed to be a generational thing, I put it out of my mind.. until 2001 through 2003. After we were attacked (with the help of either incompetence or vile collusion of our Government) in 2001 -everyone- knew something was serious… as we slid into 2003 and the illegal invasion of Iraq, watching the lies and bullshit on TV and seeing how many morons in this country lapped it all up, I knew the end was, in fact, on the way.. it was just a matter of time.

    Of course, “end” is a relative term. I don’t know how “far down” we’ll go; I doubt we’ll be doing Mad Max in neighborhoods near you (and me).. that’s just not how things work. But it isn’t going to be pretty, the long hard rebuilding after the crash.

    We have land for food.. we have mountains full of minerals for production.. we have a crapload of space to grow shittons of hemp for textiles… we just need to take ownership of those things/spaces back from the few that are holding them hostage today. The ultimate outcome of the long running abuse of this country will probably result in a Democratic Socialism by the time all is said and done. I just hope I’m still around to see it when it finally happens.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    Seems every generation has their “this is the end!” crowd. I’ve always known something was going to break here in the U.S. given the push for corporate fascism, but when I heard that the fear seemed to be a generational thing, I put it out of my mind.. until 2001 through 2003. After we were attacked (with the help of either incompetence or vile collusion of our Government) in 2001 -everyone- knew something was serious… as we slid into 2003 and the illegal invasion of Iraq, watching the lies and bullshit on TV and seeing how many morons in this country lapped it all up, I knew the end was, in fact, on the way.. it was just a matter of time.

    Of course, “end” is a relative term. I don’t know how “far down” we’ll go; I doubt we’ll be doing Mad Max in neighborhoods near you (and me).. that’s just not how things work. But it isn’t going to be pretty, the long hard rebuilding after the crash.

    We have land for food.. we have mountains full of minerals for production.. we have a crapload of space to grow shittons of hemp for textiles… we just need to take ownership of those things/spaces back from the few that are holding them hostage today. The ultimate outcome of the long running abuse of this country will probably result in a Democratic Socialism by the time all is said and done. I just hope I’m still around to see it when it finally happens.

  • Anonymous

    OK,OK…..bring out the soma:

    Soma in Aldous Huxley’s
    Brave New World

    “Benito was notoriously good-natured. People said of him that he could have got through life without ever touching soma. The malice and bad tempers from which other people had to take holidays never afflicted him. Reality for Benito was always sunny.”

    “you do look glum! What you need is a gramme of soma.”

    “the warm, the richly coloured, the infinitely friendly world of soma-holiday. How kind, how good-looking, how delightfully amusing every one was! ”

    “Swallowing half an hour before closing time, that second dose of soma had raised a quite impenetrable wall between the actual universe and their minds.”

    “All the advantages of Christianity and alcohol; none of their defects.”

    “I don’t understand anything,” she said with decision, determined to preserve her incomprehension intact. “Nothing. Least of all,” she continued in another tone “why you don’t take soma when you have these dreadful ideas of yours. You’d forget all about them. And instead of feeling miserable, you’d be jolly. So jolly,”

    “”Don’t you want to be free and men? Don’t you even understand what manhood and freedom are?” Rage was making him fluent; the words came easily, in a rush. “Don’t you?” he repeated, but got no answer to his question. “Very well then,” he went on grimly. “I’ll teach you; I’ll make you be free whether you want to or not.” And pushing open a window that looked on to the inner court of the Hospital, he began to throw the little pill-boxes of soma tablets in handfuls out into the area.”

    For a moment the khaki mob was silent, petrified, at the spectacle of this wanton sacrilege, with amazement and horror.”

    “Free, free!” the Savage shouted, and with one hand continued to throw the soma into the area while, with the other, he punched the indistinguishable faces of his assailants. “Free!” And suddenly there was Helmholtz at his side-”Good old Helmholtz!”-also punching-”Men at last!”-and in the interval also throwing the poison out by handfuls through the open window. “Yes, men! men!” and there was no more poison left. He picked up the cash-box and showed them its black emptiness. “You’re free!”

    “The policemen pushed him out of the way and got on with their work. Three men with spraying machines buckled to their shoulders pumped thick clouds of soma vapour into the air.”

    ”Hug me till you drug me, honey;
    Kiss me till I’m in a coma;
    Hug me, honey, snuggly bunny;
    Love’s as good as soma.”

  • Anonymous

    OK,OK…..bring out the soma:

    Soma in Aldous Huxley’s
    Brave New World

    “Benito was notoriously good-natured. People said of him that he could have got through life without ever touching soma. The malice and bad tempers from which other people had to take holidays never afflicted him. Reality for Benito was always sunny.”

    “you do look glum! What you need is a gramme of soma.”

    “the warm, the richly coloured, the infinitely friendly world of soma-holiday. How kind, how good-looking, how delightfully amusing every one was! ”

    “Swallowing half an hour before closing time, that second dose of soma had raised a quite impenetrable wall between the actual universe and their minds.”

    “All the advantages of Christianity and alcohol; none of their defects.”

    “I don’t understand anything,” she said with decision, determined to preserve her incomprehension intact. “Nothing. Least of all,” she continued in another tone “why you don’t take soma when you have these dreadful ideas of yours. You’d forget all about them. And instead of feeling miserable, you’d be jolly. So jolly,”

    “”Don’t you want to be free and men? Don’t you even understand what manhood and freedom are?” Rage was making him fluent; the words came easily, in a rush. “Don’t you?” he repeated, but got no answer to his question. “Very well then,” he went on grimly. “I’ll teach you; I’ll make you be free whether you want to or not.” And pushing open a window that looked on to the inner court of the Hospital, he began to throw the little pill-boxes of soma tablets in handfuls out into the area.”

    For a moment the khaki mob was silent, petrified, at the spectacle of this wanton sacrilege, with amazement and horror.”

    “Free, free!” the Savage shouted, and with one hand continued to throw the soma into the area while, with the other, he punched the indistinguishable faces of his assailants. “Free!” And suddenly there was Helmholtz at his side-”Good old Helmholtz!”-also punching-”Men at last!”-and in the interval also throwing the poison out by handfuls through the open window. “Yes, men! men!” and there was no more poison left. He picked up the cash-box and showed them its black emptiness. “You’re free!”

    “The policemen pushed him out of the way and got on with their work. Three men with spraying machines buckled to their shoulders pumped thick clouds of soma vapour into the air.”

    ”Hug me till you drug me, honey;
    Kiss me till I’m in a coma;
    Hug me, honey, snuggly bunny;
    Love’s as good as soma.”

  • Anonymous

    OK,OK…..bring out the soma:

    Soma in Aldous Huxley’s
    Brave New World

    “Benito was notoriously good-natured. People said of him that he could have got through life without ever touching soma. The malice and bad tempers from which other people had to take holidays never afflicted him. Reality for Benito was always sunny.”

    “you do look glum! What you need is a gramme of soma.”

    “the warm, the richly coloured, the infinitely friendly world of soma-holiday. How kind, how good-looking, how delightfully amusing every one was! ”

    “Swallowing half an hour before closing time, that second dose of soma had raised a quite impenetrable wall between the actual universe and their minds.”

    “All the advantages of Christianity and alcohol; none of their defects.”

    “I don’t understand anything,” she said with decision, determined to preserve her incomprehension intact. “Nothing. Least of all,” she continued in another tone “why you don’t take soma when you have these dreadful ideas of yours. You’d forget all about them. And instead of feeling miserable, you’d be jolly. So jolly,”

    “”Don’t you want to be free and men? Don’t you even understand what manhood and freedom are?” Rage was making him fluent; the words came easily, in a rush. “Don’t you?” he repeated, but got no answer to his question. “Very well then,” he went on grimly. “I’ll teach you; I’ll make you be free whether you want to or not.” And pushing open a window that looked on to the inner court of the Hospital, he began to throw the little pill-boxes of soma tablets in handfuls out into the area.”

    For a moment the khaki mob was silent, petrified, at the spectacle of this wanton sacrilege, with amazement and horror.”

    “Free, free!” the Savage shouted, and with one hand continued to throw the soma into the area while, with the other, he punched the indistinguishable faces of his assailants. “Free!” And suddenly there was Helmholtz at his side-”Good old Helmholtz!”-also punching-”Men at last!”-and in the interval also throwing the poison out by handfuls through the open window. “Yes, men! men!” and there was no more poison left. He picked up the cash-box and showed them its black emptiness. “You’re free!”

    “The policemen pushed him out of the way and got on with their work. Three men with spraying machines buckled to their shoulders pumped thick clouds of soma vapour into the air.”

    ”Hug me till you drug me, honey;
    Kiss me till I’m in a coma;
    Hug me, honey, snuggly bunny;
    Love’s as good as soma.”

  • Anonymous

    OK,OK…..bring out the soma:

    Soma in Aldous Huxley’s
    Brave New World

    “Benito was notoriously good-natured. People said of him that he could have got through life without ever touching soma. The malice and bad tempers from which other people had to take holidays never afflicted him. Reality for Benito was always sunny.”

    “you do look glum! What you need is a gramme of soma.”

    “the warm, the richly coloured, the infinitely friendly world of soma-holiday. How kind, how good-looking, how delightfully amusing every one was! ”

    “Swallowing half an hour before closing time, that second dose of soma had raised a quite impenetrable wall between the actual universe and their minds.”

    “All the advantages of Christianity and alcohol; none of their defects.”

    “I don’t understand anything,” she said with decision, determined to preserve her incomprehension intact. “Nothing. Least of all,” she continued in another tone “why you don’t take soma when you have these dreadful ideas of yours. You’d forget all about them. And instead of feeling miserable, you’d be jolly. So jolly,”

    “”Don’t you want to be free and men? Don’t you even understand what manhood and freedom are?” Rage was making him fluent; the words came easily, in a rush. “Don’t you?” he repeated, but got no answer to his question. “Very well then,” he went on grimly. “I’ll teach you; I’ll make you be free whether you want to or not.” And pushing open a window that looked on to the inner court of the Hospital, he began to throw the little pill-boxes of soma tablets in handfuls out into the area.”

    For a moment the khaki mob was silent, petrified, at the spectacle of this wanton sacrilege, with amazement and horror.”

    “Free, free!” the Savage shouted, and with one hand continued to throw the soma into the area while, with the other, he punched the indistinguishable faces of his assailants. “Free!” And suddenly there was Helmholtz at his side-”Good old Helmholtz!”-also punching-”Men at last!”-and in the interval also throwing the poison out by handfuls through the open window. “Yes, men! men!” and there was no more poison left. He picked up the cash-box and showed them its black emptiness. “You’re free!”

    “The policemen pushed him out of the way and got on with their work. Three men with spraying machines buckled to their shoulders pumped thick clouds of soma vapour into the air.”

    ”Hug me till you drug me, honey;
    Kiss me till I’m in a coma;
    Hug me, honey, snuggly bunny;
    Love’s as good as soma.”

  • Anonymous

    devilliers, YES!
    My blog name is what I stand for and have marched for since 1966. The D.C. stand in the snow by military veterans and other patriots may become as symbolic as Geo. Washington crossing the Delaware River.

    If you watch the heroic event more than once and really study faces and stances, you can truly see people putting themselves at risk, something few are willing to do.

    After awhile all the blog talk and invective, though well-meaning, is lost in a sea of chatter down a rabbit hole. More non-violent protest is essential — before the next wave of demonstrators appears, the ones who are REALLY pissed and fed up and go underground to make bombs and use weapons.

    God help us all if this level of hell-raising returns. The nat’l security state is ready for it and will defend the establishment in brutal fashion. But SOMETHING has to get people off their butts. Maybe seeing brave older men and women face the music will encourage younger people to put down their little screens and GET REAL!

  • Anonymous

    devilliers, YES!
    My blog name is what I stand for and have marched for since 1966. The D.C. stand in the snow by military veterans and other patriots may become as symbolic as Geo. Washington crossing the Delaware River.

    If you watch the heroic event more than once and really study faces and stances, you can truly see people putting themselves at risk, something few are willing to do.

    After awhile all the blog talk and invective, though well-meaning, is lost in a sea of chatter down a rabbit hole. More non-violent protest is essential — before the next wave of demonstrators appears, the ones who are REALLY pissed and fed up and go underground to make bombs and use weapons.

    God help us all if this level of hell-raising returns. The nat’l security state is ready for it and will defend the establishment in brutal fashion. But SOMETHING has to get people off their butts. Maybe seeing brave older men and women face the music will encourage younger people to put down their little screens and GET REAL!

  • Anonymous

    devilliers, YES!
    My blog name is what I stand for and have marched for since 1966. The D.C. stand in the snow by military veterans and other patriots may become as symbolic as Geo. Washington crossing the Delaware River.

    If you watch the heroic event more than once and really study faces and stances, you can truly see people putting themselves at risk, something few are willing to do.

    After awhile all the blog talk and invective, though well-meaning, is lost in a sea of chatter down a rabbit hole. More non-violent protest is essential — before the next wave of demonstrators appears, the ones who are REALLY pissed and fed up and go underground to make bombs and use weapons.

    God help us all if this level of hell-raising returns. The nat’l security state is ready for it and will defend the establishment in brutal fashion. But SOMETHING has to get people off their butts. Maybe seeing brave older men and women face the music will encourage younger people to put down their little screens and GET REAL!

  • Anonymous

    devilliers, YES!
    My blog name is what I stand for and have marched for since 1966. The D.C. stand in the snow by military veterans and other patriots may become as symbolic as Geo. Washington crossing the Delaware River.

    If you watch the heroic event more than once and really study faces and stances, you can truly see people putting themselves at risk, something few are willing to do.

    After awhile all the blog talk and invective, though well-meaning, is lost in a sea of chatter down a rabbit hole. More non-violent protest is essential — before the next wave of demonstrators appears, the ones who are REALLY pissed and fed up and go underground to make bombs and use weapons.

    God help us all if this level of hell-raising returns. The nat’l security state is ready for it and will defend the establishment in brutal fashion. But SOMETHING has to get people off their butts. Maybe seeing brave older men and women face the music will encourage younger people to put down their little screens and GET REAL!

  • Anonymous

    devilliers, YES!
    My blog name is what I stand for and have marched for since 1966. The D.C. stand in the snow by military veterans and other patriots may become as symbolic as Geo. Washington crossing the Delaware River.

    If you watch the heroic event more than once and really study faces and stances, you can truly see people putting themselves at risk, something few are willing to do.

    After awhile all the blog talk and invective, though well-meaning, is lost in a sea of chatter down a rabbit hole. More non-violent protest is essential — before the next wave of demonstrators appears, the ones who are REALLY pissed and fed up and go underground to make bombs and use weapons.

    God help us all if this level of hell-raising returns. The nat’l security state is ready for it and will defend the establishment in brutal fashion. But SOMETHING has to get people off their butts. Maybe seeing brave older men and women face the music will encourage younger people to put down their little screens and GET REAL!

  • Anonymous

    devilliers, YES!
    My blog name is what I stand for and have marched for since 1966. The D.C. stand in the snow by military veterans and other patriots may become as symbolic as Geo. Washington crossing the Delaware River.

    If you watch the heroic event more than once and really study faces and stances, you can truly see people putting themselves at risk, something few are willing to do.

    After awhile all the blog talk and invective, though well-meaning, is lost in a sea of chatter down a rabbit hole. More non-violent protest is essential — before the next wave of demonstrators appears, the ones who are REALLY pissed and fed up and go underground to make bombs and use weapons.

    God help us all if this level of hell-raising returns. The nat’l security state is ready for it and will defend the establishment in brutal fashion. But SOMETHING has to get people off their butts. Maybe seeing brave older men and women face the music will encourage younger people to put down their little screens and GET REAL!

  • Anonymous

    devilliers, YES!
    My blog name is what I stand for and have marched for since 1966. The D.C. stand in the snow by military veterans and other patriots may become as symbolic as Geo. Washington crossing the Delaware River.

    If you watch the heroic event more than once and really study faces and stances, you can truly see people putting themselves at risk, something few are willing to do.

    After awhile all the blog talk and invective, though well-meaning, is lost in a sea of chatter down a rabbit hole. More non-violent protest is essential — before the next wave of demonstrators appears, the ones who are REALLY pissed and fed up and go underground to make bombs and use weapons.

    God help us all if this level of hell-raising returns. The nat’l security state is ready for it and will defend the establishment in brutal fashion. But SOMETHING has to get people off their butts. Maybe seeing brave older men and women face the music will encourage younger people to put down their little screens and GET REAL!

  • Anonymous

    devilliers, YES!
    My blog name is what I stand for and have marched for since 1966. The D.C. stand in the snow by military veterans and other patriots may become as symbolic as Geo. Washington crossing the Delaware River.

    If you watch the heroic event more than once and really study faces and stances, you can truly see people putting themselves at risk, something few are willing to do.

    After awhile all the blog talk and invective, though well-meaning, is lost in a sea of chatter down a rabbit hole. More non-violent protest is essential — before the next wave of demonstrators appears, the ones who are REALLY pissed and fed up and go underground to make bombs and use weapons.

    God help us all if this level of hell-raising returns. The nat’l security state is ready for it and will defend the establishment in brutal fashion. But SOMETHING has to get people off their butts. Maybe seeing brave older men and women face the music will encourage younger people to put down their little screens and GET REAL!

  • Anonymous

    devilliers, YES!
    My blog name is what I stand for and have marched for since 1966. The D.C. stand in the snow by military veterans and other patriots may become as symbolic as Geo. Washington crossing the Delaware River.

    If you watch the heroic event more than once and really study faces and stances, you can truly see people putting themselves at risk, something few are willing to do.

    After awhile all the blog talk and invective, though well-meaning, is lost in a sea of chatter down a rabbit hole. More non-violent protest is essential — before the next wave of demonstrators appears, the ones who are REALLY pissed and fed up and go underground to make bombs and use weapons.

    God help us all if this level of hell-raising returns. The nat’l security state is ready for it and will defend the establishment in brutal fashion. But SOMETHING has to get people off their butts. Maybe seeing brave older men and women face the music will encourage younger people to put down their little screens and GET REAL!

  • Anonymous

    devilliers, YES!
    My blog name is what I stand for and have marched for since 1966. The D.C. stand in the snow by military veterans and other patriots may become as symbolic as Geo. Washington crossing the Delaware River.

    If you watch the heroic event more than once and really study faces and stances, you can truly see people putting themselves at risk, something few are willing to do.

    After awhile all the blog talk and invective, though well-meaning, is lost in a sea of chatter down a rabbit hole. More non-violent protest is essential — before the next wave of demonstrators appears, the ones who are REALLY pissed and fed up and go underground to make bombs and use weapons.

    God help us all if this level of hell-raising returns. The nat’l security state is ready for it and will defend the establishment in brutal fashion. But SOMETHING has to get people off their butts. Maybe seeing brave older men and women face the music will encourage younger people to put down their little screens and GET REAL!

  • Anonymous

    devilliers, YES!
    My blog name is what I stand for and have marched for since 1966. The D.C. stand in the snow by military veterans and other patriots may become as symbolic as Geo. Washington crossing the Delaware River.

    If you watch the heroic event more than once and really study faces and stances, you can truly see people putting themselves at risk, something few are willing to do.

    After awhile all the blog talk and invective, though well-meaning, is lost in a sea of chatter down a rabbit hole. More non-violent protest is essential — before the next wave of demonstrators appears, the ones who are REALLY pissed and fed up and go underground to make bombs and use weapons.

    God help us all if this level of hell-raising returns. The nat’l security state is ready for it and will defend the establishment in brutal fashion. But SOMETHING has to get people off their butts. Maybe seeing brave older men and women face the music will encourage younger people to put down their little screens and GET REAL!

  • Anonymous

    devilliers, YES!
    My blog name is what I stand for and have marched for since 1966. The D.C. stand in the snow by military veterans and other patriots may become as symbolic as Geo. Washington crossing the Delaware River.

    If you watch the heroic event more than once and really study faces and stances, you can truly see people putting themselves at risk, something few are willing to do.

    After awhile all the blog talk and invective, though well-meaning, is lost in a sea of chatter down a rabbit hole. More non-violent protest is essential — before the next wave of demonstrators appears, the ones who are REALLY pissed and fed up and go underground to make bombs and use weapons.

    God help us all if this level of hell-raising returns. The nat’l security state is ready for it and will defend the establishment in brutal fashion. But SOMETHING has to get people off their butts. Maybe seeing brave older men and women face the music will encourage younger people to put down their little screens and GET REAL!

  • Anonymous

    devilliers, YES!
    My blog name is what I stand for and have marched for since 1966. The D.C. stand in the snow by military veterans and other patriots may become as symbolic as Geo. Washington crossing the Delaware River.

    If you watch the heroic event more than once and really study faces and stances, you can truly see people putting themselves at risk, something few are willing to do.

    After awhile all the blog talk and invective, though well-meaning, is lost in a sea of chatter down a rabbit hole. More non-violent protest is essential — before the next wave of demonstrators appears, the ones who are REALLY pissed and fed up and go underground to make bombs and use weapons.

    God help us all if this level of hell-raising returns. The nat’l security state is ready for it and will defend the establishment in brutal fashion. But SOMETHING has to get people off their butts. Maybe seeing brave older men and women face the music will encourage younger people to put down their little screens and GET REAL!

  • Anonymous

    devilliers, YES!
    My blog name is what I stand for and have marched for since 1966. The D.C. stand in the snow by military veterans and other patriots may become as symbolic as Geo. Washington crossing the Delaware River.

    If you watch the heroic event more than once and really study faces and stances, you can truly see people putting themselves at risk, something few are willing to do.

    After awhile all the blog talk and invective, though well-meaning, is lost in a sea of chatter down a rabbit hole. More non-violent protest is essential — before the next wave of demonstrators appears, the ones who are REALLY pissed and fed up and go underground to make bombs and use weapons.

    God help us all if this level of hell-raising returns. The nat’l security state is ready for it and will defend the establishment in brutal fashion. But SOMETHING has to get people off their butts. Maybe seeing brave older men and women face the music will encourage younger people to put down their little screens and GET REAL!

  • Anonymous

    According to the mainstream media all of the conditions in the US are like paradise.
    The Military Industrial Complex is more profitable than ever in it’s history.
    The Pharmaceutical industrial complex is more profitable than ever before.
    The large banking institutions are paying the largest bonuses than they have ever paid before.
    The wealthiest 2% are in a tax utopia and they are acquiring all of the bottom 98%’s assets.

    My faux news tells me that Chris Hedges does not know what he is talking about.

  • Anonymous

    According to the mainstream media all of the conditions in the US are like paradise.
    The Military Industrial Complex is more profitable than ever in it’s history.
    The Pharmaceutical industrial complex is more profitable than ever before.
    The large banking institutions are paying the largest bonuses than they have ever paid before.
    The wealthiest 2% are in a tax utopia and they are acquiring all of the bottom 98%’s assets.

    My faux news tells me that Chris Hedges does not know what he is talking about.

  • Anonymous

    According to the mainstream media all of the conditions in the US are like paradise.
    The Military Industrial Complex is more profitable than ever in it’s history.
    The Pharmaceutical industrial complex is more profitable than ever before.
    The large banking institutions are paying the largest bonuses than they have ever paid before.
    The wealthiest 2% are in a tax utopia and they are acquiring all of the bottom 98%’s assets.

    My faux news tells me that Chris Hedges does not know what he is talking about.

  • Anonymous

    According to the mainstream media all of the conditions in the US are like paradise.
    The Military Industrial Complex is more profitable than ever in it’s history.
    The Pharmaceutical industrial complex is more profitable than ever before.
    The large banking institutions are paying the largest bonuses than they have ever paid before.
    The wealthiest 2% are in a tax utopia and they are acquiring all of the bottom 98%’s assets.

    My faux news tells me that Chris Hedges does not know what he is talking about.

  • Anonymous

    According to the mainstream media all of the conditions in the US are like paradise.
    The Military Industrial Complex is more profitable than ever in it’s history.
    The Pharmaceutical industrial complex is more profitable than ever before.
    The large banking institutions are paying the largest bonuses than they have ever paid before.
    The wealthiest 2% are in a tax utopia and they are acquiring all of the bottom 98%’s assets.

    My faux news tells me that Chris Hedges does not know what he is talking about.

  • Anonymous

    According to the mainstream media all of the conditions in the US are like paradise.
    The Military Industrial Complex is more profitable than ever in it’s history.
    The Pharmaceutical industrial complex is more profitable than ever before.
    The large banking institutions are paying the largest bonuses than they have ever paid before.
    The wealthiest 2% are in a tax utopia and they are acquiring all of the bottom 98%’s assets.

    My faux news tells me that Chris Hedges does not know what he is talking about.

  • Anonymous

    According to the mainstream media all of the conditions in the US are like paradise.
    The Military Industrial Complex is more profitable than ever in it’s history.
    The Pharmaceutical industrial complex is more profitable than ever before.
    The large banking institutions are paying the largest bonuses than they have ever paid before.
    The wealthiest 2% are in a tax utopia and they are acquiring all of the bottom 98%’s assets.

    My faux news tells me that Chris Hedges does not know what he is talking about.

  • Anonymous

    According to the mainstream media all of the conditions in the US are like paradise.
    The Military Industrial Complex is more profitable than ever in it’s history.
    The Pharmaceutical industrial complex is more profitable than ever before.
    The large banking institutions are paying the largest bonuses than they have ever paid before.
    The wealthiest 2% are in a tax utopia and they are acquiring all of the bottom 98%’s assets.

    My faux news tells me that Chris Hedges does not know what he is talking about.

  • Anonymous

    I just been watching that and thought the same..

    Huh?

    While yer up jus’ pass that remote…

  • Anonymous

    I just been watching that and thought the same..

    Huh?

    While yer up jus’ pass that remote…

  • Anonymous

    I just been watching that and thought the same..

    Huh?

    While yer up jus’ pass that remote…

  • Anonymous

    I just been watching that and thought the same..

    Huh?

    While yer up jus’ pass that remote…

  • Anonymous

    I just been watching that and thought the same..

    Huh?

    While yer up jus’ pass that remote…

  • Anonymous

    I just been watching that and thought the same..

    Huh?

    While yer up jus’ pass that remote…

  • Anonymous

    I just been watching that and thought the same..

    Huh?

    While yer up jus’ pass that remote…

  • Anonymous

    I just been watching that and thought the same..

    Huh?

    While yer up jus’ pass that remote…

  • Anonymous

    I just been watching that and thought the same..

    Huh?

    While yer up jus’ pass that remote…

  • Anonymous

    I just been watching that and thought the same..

    Huh?

    While yer up jus’ pass that remote…

  • Anonymous

    I just been watching that and thought the same..

    Huh?

    While yer up jus’ pass that remote…

  • Anonymous

    I just been watching that and thought the same..

    Huh?

    While yer up jus’ pass that remote…

  • Anonymous

    I just been watching that and thought the same..

    Huh?

    While yer up jus’ pass that remote…

  • Anonymous

    I just been watching that and thought the same..

    Huh?

    While yer up jus’ pass that remote…

  • Anonymous

    I just been watching that and thought the same..

    Huh?

    While yer up jus’ pass that remote…

  • Anonymous

    Wo, be a bit nice. As a person who writes 12 hours a day for a living without being able to make a particularly comfortable living out of it, I understand where mistakes come from.

    Chris Hedges does incredible work these days. I wonder how frustrated people like Hedges and Stephen Kinzer must have been while working at the New York Times.

  • Anonymous

    Wo, be a bit nice. As a person who writes 12 hours a day for a living without being able to make a particularly comfortable living out of it, I understand where mistakes come from.

    Chris Hedges does incredible work these days. I wonder how frustrated people like Hedges and Stephen Kinzer must have been while working at the New York Times.

  • Anonymous

    Wo, be a bit nice. As a person who writes 12 hours a day for a living without being able to make a particularly comfortable living out of it, I understand where mistakes come from.

    Chris Hedges does incredible work these days. I wonder how frustrated people like Hedges and Stephen Kinzer must have been while working at the New York Times.

  • Anonymous

    Wo, be a bit nice. As a person who writes 12 hours a day for a living without being able to make a particularly comfortable living out of it, I understand where mistakes come from.

    Chris Hedges does incredible work these days. I wonder how frustrated people like Hedges and Stephen Kinzer must have been while working at the New York Times.

  • Anonymous

    Wo, be a bit nice. As a person who writes 12 hours a day for a living without being able to make a particularly comfortable living out of it, I understand where mistakes come from.

    Chris Hedges does incredible work these days. I wonder how frustrated people like Hedges and Stephen Kinzer must have been while working at the New York Times.

  • Anonymous

    Wo, be a bit nice. As a person who writes 12 hours a day for a living without being able to make a particularly comfortable living out of it, I understand where mistakes come from.

    Chris Hedges does incredible work these days. I wonder how frustrated people like Hedges and Stephen Kinzer must have been while working at the New York Times.

  • Anonymous

    Wo, be a bit nice. As a person who writes 12 hours a day for a living without being able to make a particularly comfortable living out of it, I understand where mistakes come from.

    Chris Hedges does incredible work these days. I wonder how frustrated people like Hedges and Stephen Kinzer must have been while working at the New York Times.

  • 1984

    ‘A corporate coup d’état in slow motion’
    Now ain’t that the truth.

  • 1984

    ‘A corporate coup d’état in slow motion’
    Now ain’t that the truth.

  • 1984

    ‘A corporate coup d’état in slow motion’
    Now ain’t that the truth.

  • 1984

    ‘A corporate coup d’état in slow motion’
    Now ain’t that the truth.

  • 1984

    ‘A corporate coup d’état in slow motion’
    Now ain’t that the truth.

  • 1984

    ‘A corporate coup d’état in slow motion’
    Now ain’t that the truth.

  • 1984

    ‘A corporate coup d’état in slow motion’
    Now ain’t that the truth.

  • http://www.websemiotics.com/ Comrade Seidl

    You forgot this one, which kills two birds with one stone: “Hedges said that another pressure point is the US dollar, which he pointed Russia and China has dropped…”

    RS: good at reporting, bad at editing. I understand that editing is a tremendous task, but almost every story I read has several glaring errors.

  • http://www.websemiotics.com/ Comrade Seidl

    You forgot this one, which kills two birds with one stone: “Hedges said that another pressure point is the US dollar, which he pointed Russia and China has dropped…”

    RS: good at reporting, bad at editing. I understand that editing is a tremendous task, but almost every story I read has several glaring errors.

  • http://www.websemiotics.com/ Comrade Seidl

    You forgot this one, which kills two birds with one stone: “Hedges said that another pressure point is the US dollar, which he pointed Russia and China has dropped…”

    RS: good at reporting, bad at editing. I understand that editing is a tremendous task, but almost every story I read has several glaring errors.

  • http://www.websemiotics.com/ Comrade Seidl

    You forgot this one, which kills two birds with one stone: “Hedges said that another pressure point is the US dollar, which he pointed Russia and China has dropped…”

    RS: good at reporting, bad at editing. I understand that editing is a tremendous task, but almost every story I read has several glaring errors.

  • http://www.websemiotics.com/ Comrade Seidl

    You forgot this one, which kills two birds with one stone: “Hedges said that another pressure point is the US dollar, which he pointed Russia and China has dropped…”

    RS: good at reporting, bad at editing. I understand that editing is a tremendous task, but almost every story I read has several glaring errors.

  • http://www.websemiotics.com/ Comrade Seidl

    You forgot this one, which kills two birds with one stone: “Hedges said that another pressure point is the US dollar, which he pointed Russia and China has dropped…”

    RS: good at reporting, bad at editing. I understand that editing is a tremendous task, but almost every story I read has several glaring errors.

  • http://www.websemiotics.com/ Comrade Seidl

    You forgot this one, which kills two birds with one stone: “Hedges said that another pressure point is the US dollar, which he pointed Russia and China has dropped…”

    RS: good at reporting, bad at editing. I understand that editing is a tremendous task, but almost every story I read has several glaring errors.

  • http://www.websemiotics.com/ Comrade Seidl

    You forgot this one, which kills two birds with one stone: “Hedges said that another pressure point is the US dollar, which he pointed Russia and China has dropped…”

    RS: good at reporting, bad at editing. I understand that editing is a tremendous task, but almost every story I read has several glaring errors.

  • http://www.websemiotics.com/ Comrade Seidl

    You forgot this one, which kills two birds with one stone: “Hedges said that another pressure point is the US dollar, which he pointed Russia and China has dropped…”

    RS: good at reporting, bad at editing. I understand that editing is a tremendous task, but almost every story I read has several glaring errors.

  • http://www.websemiotics.com/ Comrade Seidl

    You forgot this one, which kills two birds with one stone: “Hedges said that another pressure point is the US dollar, which he pointed Russia and China has dropped…”

    RS: good at reporting, bad at editing. I understand that editing is a tremendous task, but almost every story I read has several glaring errors.

  • http://www.websemiotics.com/ Comrade Seidl

    You forgot this one, which kills two birds with one stone: “Hedges said that another pressure point is the US dollar, which he pointed Russia and China has dropped…”

    RS: good at reporting, bad at editing. I understand that editing is a tremendous task, but almost every story I read has several glaring errors.

  • http://www.websemiotics.com/ Comrade Seidl

    You forgot this one, which kills two birds with one stone: “Hedges said that another pressure point is the US dollar, which he pointed Russia and China has dropped…”

    RS: good at reporting, bad at editing. I understand that editing is a tremendous task, but almost every story I read has several glaring errors.

  • http://www.websemiotics.com/ Comrade Seidl

    You forgot this one, which kills two birds with one stone: “Hedges said that another pressure point is the US dollar, which he pointed Russia and China has dropped…”

    RS: good at reporting, bad at editing. I understand that editing is a tremendous task, but almost every story I read has several glaring errors.

  • http://www.websemiotics.com/ Comrade Seidl

    You forgot this one, which kills two birds with one stone: “Hedges said that another pressure point is the US dollar, which he pointed Russia and China has dropped…”

    RS: good at reporting, bad at editing. I understand that editing is a tremendous task, but almost every story I read has several glaring errors.

  • http://www.websemiotics.com/ Comrade Seidl

    You forgot this one, which kills two birds with one stone: “Hedges said that another pressure point is the US dollar, which he pointed Russia and China has dropped…”

    RS: good at reporting, bad at editing. I understand that editing is a tremendous task, but almost every story I read has several glaring errors.

  • http://www.websemiotics.com/ Comrade Seidl

    You forgot this one, which kills two birds with one stone: “Hedges said that another pressure point is the US dollar, which he pointed Russia and China has dropped…”

    RS: good at reporting, bad at editing. I understand that editing is a tremendous task, but almost every story I read has several glaring errors.

  • http://www.websemiotics.com/ Comrade Seidl

    You forgot this one, which kills two birds with one stone: “Hedges said that another pressure point is the US dollar, which he pointed Russia and China has dropped…”

    RS: good at reporting, bad at editing. I understand that editing is a tremendous task, but almost every story I read has several glaring errors.

  • http://www.websemiotics.com/ Comrade Seidl

    You forgot this one, which kills two birds with one stone: “Hedges said that another pressure point is the US dollar, which he pointed Russia and China has dropped…”

    RS: good at reporting, bad at editing. I understand that editing is a tremendous task, but almost every story I read has several glaring errors.

  • http://www.websemiotics.com/ Comrade Seidl

    You forgot this one, which kills two birds with one stone: “Hedges said that another pressure point is the US dollar, which he pointed Russia and China has dropped…”

    RS: good at reporting, bad at editing. I understand that editing is a tremendous task, but almost every story I read has several glaring errors.

  • http://www.websemiotics.com/ Comrade Seidl

    You forgot this one, which kills two birds with one stone: “Hedges said that another pressure point is the US dollar, which he pointed Russia and China has dropped…”

    RS: good at reporting, bad at editing. I understand that editing is a tremendous task, but almost every story I read has several glaring errors.

  • Anonymous

    I used to respect Hedges, but recently he’s become such an apocalyptic curdmugeon, I think he needs to relax, breathe, and smell a flower with infinite gratitude.

  • Anonymous

    I used to respect Hedges, but recently he’s become such an apocalyptic curdmugeon, I think he needs to relax, breathe, and smell a flower with infinite gratitude.

  • Anonymous

    I used to respect Hedges, but recently he’s become such an apocalyptic curdmugeon, I think he needs to relax, breathe, and smell a flower with infinite gratitude.

  • Anonymous

    I used to respect Hedges, but recently he’s become such an apocalyptic curdmugeon, I think he needs to relax, breathe, and smell a flower with infinite gratitude.

  • Anonymous

    I used to respect Hedges, but recently he’s become such an apocalyptic curdmugeon, I think he needs to relax, breathe, and smell a flower with infinite gratitude.

  • Anonymous

    I used to respect Hedges, but recently he’s become such an apocalyptic curdmugeon, I think he needs to relax, breathe, and smell a flower with infinite gratitude.

  • Anonymous

    I used to respect Hedges, but recently he’s become such an apocalyptic curdmugeon, I think he needs to relax, breathe, and smell a flower with infinite gratitude.

  • Anonymous

    I used to respect Hedges, but recently he’s become such an apocalyptic curdmugeon, I think he needs to relax, breathe, and smell a flower with infinite gratitude.

  • http://www.facebook.com/gregory.p.smith1 Gregory Paul Smith

    Pretty bleak, eh? The thing that galls me is that we as Americans have to compete with “prison” labor in China…. really? I’ll research that statement. I don’t know anything about prison labor in China, but if that really is the case, that China has made it’s economic gains by exploiting their prisoners, then how can we win? We can’t!….. back later with an informed opinion.

  • http://www.facebook.com/gregory.p.smith1 Gregory Paul Smith

    Pretty bleak, eh? The thing that galls me is that we as Americans have to compete with “prison” labor in China…. really? I’ll research that statement. I don’t know anything about prison labor in China, but if that really is the case, that China has made it’s economic gains by exploiting their prisoners, then how can we win? We can’t!….. back later with an informed opinion.

  • http://topsy.com/www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/untitled-chris-hedges-interview/?utm_source=pingback&utm_campaign=L2 Tweets that mention Exclusive: US empire could collapse at any time, Pulitzer winner tells Raw Story | Raw Story — Topsy.com

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  • Mr. Neutron

    R.I.P. Chalmers Johnson

    http://www.amazon.com/Dismantling-Empire-Americas-American-Project/dp/0805093036
    Dismantling the Empire: America’s Last Best Hope
    If we do not learn from the fates of past empires, he suggests, our decline and fall are foreordained. This is Johnson at his best: delivering both a warning and an urgent prescription for a remedy.

  • Mr. Neutron

    R.I.P. Chalmers Johnson

    http://www.amazon.com/Dismantling-Empire-Americas-American-Project/dp/0805093036
    Dismantling the Empire: America’s Last Best Hope
    If we do not learn from the fates of past empires, he suggests, our decline and fall are foreordained. This is Johnson at his best: delivering both a warning and an urgent prescription for a remedy.

  • Mr. Neutron

    R.I.P. Chalmers Johnson

    http://www.amazon.com/Dismantling-Empire-Americas-American-Project/dp/0805093036
    Dismantling the Empire: America’s Last Best Hope
    If we do not learn from the fates of past empires, he suggests, our decline and fall are foreordained. This is Johnson at his best: delivering both a warning and an urgent prescription for a remedy.

  • Mr. Neutron

    R.I.P. Chalmers Johnson

    http://www.amazon.com/Dismantling-Empire-Americas-American-Project/dp/0805093036
    Dismantling the Empire: America’s Last Best Hope
    If we do not learn from the fates of past empires, he suggests, our decline and fall are foreordained. This is Johnson at his best: delivering both a warning and an urgent prescription for a remedy.

  • Mr. Neutron

    R.I.P. Chalmers Johnson

    http://www.amazon.com/Dismantling-Empire-Americas-American-Project/dp/0805093036
    Dismantling the Empire: America’s Last Best Hope
    If we do not learn from the fates of past empires, he suggests, our decline and fall are foreordained. This is Johnson at his best: delivering both a warning and an urgent prescription for a remedy.

  • Mr. Neutron

    R.I.P. Chalmers Johnson

    http://www.amazon.com/Dismantling-Empire-Americas-American-Project/dp/0805093036
    Dismantling the Empire: America’s Last Best Hope
    If we do not learn from the fates of past empires, he suggests, our decline and fall are foreordained. This is Johnson at his best: delivering both a warning and an urgent prescription for a remedy.

  • Mr. Neutron

    R.I.P. Chalmers Johnson

    http://www.amazon.com/Dismantling-Empire-Americas-American-Project/dp/0805093036
    Dismantling the Empire: America’s Last Best Hope
    If we do not learn from the fates of past empires, he suggests, our decline and fall are foreordained. This is Johnson at his best: delivering both a warning and an urgent prescription for a remedy.

  • Anonymous

    Obama has embraced Bush’s foreign policy, war policy, even his Secretary of Defense. Looks like we can trust neither party to “change” anything. Yet, during the Clinton years, Jim Baker and Warren Christopher rigged the system so that no third party candidate could ever do what Ross Perot did in 1992.

    Now, with the TSA, “Homeland Security” (nice Nazi ring to it, **Heimatslanddienst**), and SWAT teams everywhere, do you think they might be expecting a revolution?

    When the government fears the people, you have liberty. When the people fear the government, you have tyranny.

  • Anonymous

    Obama has embraced Bush’s foreign policy, war policy, even his Secretary of Defense. Looks like we can trust neither party to “change” anything. Yet, during the Clinton years, Jim Baker and Warren Christopher rigged the system so that no third party candidate could ever do what Ross Perot did in 1992.

    Now, with the TSA, “Homeland Security” (nice Nazi ring to it, **Heimatslanddienst**), and SWAT teams everywhere, do you think they might be expecting a revolution?

    When the government fears the people, you have liberty. When the people fear the government, you have tyranny.

  • Anonymous

    Obama has embraced Bush’s foreign policy, war policy, even his Secretary of Defense. Looks like we can trust neither party to “change” anything. Yet, during the Clinton years, Jim Baker and Warren Christopher rigged the system so that no third party candidate could ever do what Ross Perot did in 1992.

    Now, with the TSA, “Homeland Security” (nice Nazi ring to it, **Heimatslanddienst**), and SWAT teams everywhere, do you think they might be expecting a revolution?

    When the government fears the people, you have liberty. When the people fear the government, you have tyranny.

  • Anonymous

    Obama has embraced Bush’s foreign policy, war policy, even his Secretary of Defense. Looks like we can trust neither party to “change” anything. Yet, during the Clinton years, Jim Baker and Warren Christopher rigged the system so that no third party candidate could ever do what Ross Perot did in 1992.

    Now, with the TSA, “Homeland Security” (nice Nazi ring to it, **Heimatslanddienst**), and SWAT teams everywhere, do you think they might be expecting a revolution?

    When the government fears the people, you have liberty. When the people fear the government, you have tyranny.

  • Anonymous

    Obama has embraced Bush’s foreign policy, war policy, even his Secretary of Defense. Looks like we can trust neither party to “change” anything. Yet, during the Clinton years, Jim Baker and Warren Christopher rigged the system so that no third party candidate could ever do what Ross Perot did in 1992.

    Now, with the TSA, “Homeland Security” (nice Nazi ring to it, **Heimatslanddienst**), and SWAT teams everywhere, do you think they might be expecting a revolution?

    When the government fears the people, you have liberty. When the people fear the government, you have tyranny.

  • Anonymous

    Obama has embraced Bush’s foreign policy, war policy, even his Secretary of Defense. Looks like we can trust neither party to “change” anything. Yet, during the Clinton years, Jim Baker and Warren Christopher rigged the system so that no third party candidate could ever do what Ross Perot did in 1992.

    Now, with the TSA, “Homeland Security” (nice Nazi ring to it, **Heimatslanddienst**), and SWAT teams everywhere, do you think they might be expecting a revolution?

    When the government fears the people, you have liberty. When the people fear the government, you have tyranny.

  • Anonymous

    Obama has embraced Bush’s foreign policy, war policy, even his Secretary of Defense. Looks like we can trust neither party to “change” anything. Yet, during the Clinton years, Jim Baker and Warren Christopher rigged the system so that no third party candidate could ever do what Ross Perot did in 1992.

    Now, with the TSA, “Homeland Security” (nice Nazi ring to it, **Heimatslanddienst**), and SWAT teams everywhere, do you think they might be expecting a revolution?

    When the government fears the people, you have liberty. When the people fear the government, you have tyranny.

  • Anonymous

    Obama has embraced Bush’s foreign policy, war policy, even his Secretary of Defense. Looks like we can trust neither party to “change” anything. Yet, during the Clinton years, Jim Baker and Warren Christopher rigged the system so that no third party candidate could ever do what Ross Perot did in 1992.

    Now, with the TSA, “Homeland Security” (nice Nazi ring to it, **Heimatslanddienst**), and SWAT teams everywhere, do you think they might be expecting a revolution?

    When the government fears the people, you have liberty. When the people fear the government, you have tyranny.

  • Anonymous

    Obama has embraced Bush’s foreign policy, war policy, even his Secretary of Defense. Looks like we can trust neither party to “change” anything. Yet, during the Clinton years, Jim Baker and Warren Christopher rigged the system so that no third party candidate could ever do what Ross Perot did in 1992.

    Now, with the TSA, “Homeland Security” (nice Nazi ring to it, **Heimatslanddienst**), and SWAT teams everywhere, do you think they might be expecting a revolution?

    When the government fears the people, you have liberty. When the people fear the government, you have tyranny.

  • Anonymous

    Obama has embraced Bush’s foreign policy, war policy, even his Secretary of Defense. Looks like we can trust neither party to “change” anything. Yet, during the Clinton years, Jim Baker and Warren Christopher rigged the system so that no third party candidate could ever do what Ross Perot did in 1992.

    Now, with the TSA, “Homeland Security” (nice Nazi ring to it, **Heimatslanddienst**), and SWAT teams everywhere, do you think they might be expecting a revolution?

    When the government fears the people, you have liberty. When the people fear the government, you have tyranny.

  • Anonymous

    Obama has embraced Bush’s foreign policy, war policy, even his Secretary of Defense. Looks like we can trust neither party to “change” anything. Yet, during the Clinton years, Jim Baker and Warren Christopher rigged the system so that no third party candidate could ever do what Ross Perot did in 1992.

    Now, with the TSA, “Homeland Security” (nice Nazi ring to it, **Heimatslanddienst**), and SWAT teams everywhere, do you think they might be expecting a revolution?

    When the government fears the people, you have liberty. When the people fear the government, you have tyranny.

  • Anonymous

    Obama has embraced Bush’s foreign policy, war policy, even his Secretary of Defense. Looks like we can trust neither party to “change” anything. Yet, during the Clinton years, Jim Baker and Warren Christopher rigged the system so that no third party candidate could ever do what Ross Perot did in 1992.

    Now, with the TSA, “Homeland Security” (nice Nazi ring to it, **Heimatslanddienst**), and SWAT teams everywhere, do you think they might be expecting a revolution?

    When the government fears the people, you have liberty. When the people fear the government, you have tyranny.

  • Anonymous

    Obama has embraced Bush’s foreign policy, war policy, even his Secretary of Defense. Looks like we can trust neither party to “change” anything. Yet, during the Clinton years, Jim Baker and Warren Christopher rigged the system so that no third party candidate could ever do what Ross Perot did in 1992.

    Now, with the TSA, “Homeland Security” (nice Nazi ring to it, **Heimatslanddienst**), and SWAT teams everywhere, do you think they might be expecting a revolution?

    When the government fears the people, you have liberty. When the people fear the government, you have tyranny.

  • Anonymous

    Obama has embraced Bush’s foreign policy, war policy, even his Secretary of Defense. Looks like we can trust neither party to “change” anything. Yet, during the Clinton years, Jim Baker and Warren Christopher rigged the system so that no third party candidate could ever do what Ross Perot did in 1992.

    Now, with the TSA, “Homeland Security” (nice Nazi ring to it, **Heimatslanddienst**), and SWAT teams everywhere, do you think they might be expecting a revolution?

    When the government fears the people, you have liberty. When the people fear the government, you have tyranny.

  • Anonymous

    Obama has embraced Bush’s foreign policy, war policy, even his Secretary of Defense. Looks like we can trust neither party to “change” anything. Yet, during the Clinton years, Jim Baker and Warren Christopher rigged the system so that no third party candidate could ever do what Ross Perot did in 1992.

    Now, with the TSA, “Homeland Security” (nice Nazi ring to it, **Heimatslanddienst**), and SWAT teams everywhere, do you think they might be expecting a revolution?

    When the government fears the people, you have liberty. When the people fear the government, you have tyranny.

  • Anonymous

    Obama has embraced Bush’s foreign policy, war policy, even his Secretary of Defense. Looks like we can trust neither party to “change” anything. Yet, during the Clinton years, Jim Baker and Warren Christopher rigged the system so that no third party candidate could ever do what Ross Perot did in 1992.

    Now, with the TSA, “Homeland Security” (nice Nazi ring to it, **Heimatslanddienst**), and SWAT teams everywhere, do you think they might be expecting a revolution?

    When the government fears the people, you have liberty. When the people fear the government, you have tyranny.

  • Anonymous

    Obama has embraced Bush’s foreign policy, war policy, even his Secretary of Defense. Looks like we can trust neither party to “change” anything. Yet, during the Clinton years, Jim Baker and Warren Christopher rigged the system so that no third party candidate could ever do what Ross Perot did in 1992.

    Now, with the TSA, “Homeland Security” (nice Nazi ring to it, **Heimatslanddienst**), and SWAT teams everywhere, do you think they might be expecting a revolution?

    When the government fears the people, you have liberty. When the people fear the government, you have tyranny.

  • Anonymous

    Obama has embraced Bush’s foreign policy, war policy, even his Secretary of Defense. Looks like we can trust neither party to “change” anything. Yet, during the Clinton years, Jim Baker and Warren Christopher rigged the system so that no third party candidate could ever do what Ross Perot did in 1992.

    Now, with the TSA, “Homeland Security” (nice Nazi ring to it, **Heimatslanddienst**), and SWAT teams everywhere, do you think they might be expecting a revolution?

    When the government fears the people, you have liberty. When the people fear the government, you have tyranny.

  • Anonymous

    Obama has embraced Bush’s foreign policy, war policy, even his Secretary of Defense. Looks like we can trust neither party to “change” anything. Yet, during the Clinton years, Jim Baker and Warren Christopher rigged the system so that no third party candidate could ever do what Ross Perot did in 1992.

    Now, with the TSA, “Homeland Security” (nice Nazi ring to it, **Heimatslanddienst**), and SWAT teams everywhere, do you think they might be expecting a revolution?

    When the government fears the people, you have liberty. When the people fear the government, you have tyranny.

  • Anonymous

    Obama has embraced Bush’s foreign policy, war policy, even his Secretary of Defense. Looks like we can trust neither party to “change” anything. Yet, during the Clinton years, Jim Baker and Warren Christopher rigged the system so that no third party candidate could ever do what Ross Perot did in 1992.

    Now, with the TSA, “Homeland Security” (nice Nazi ring to it, **Heimatslanddienst**), and SWAT teams everywhere, do you think they might be expecting a revolution?

    When the government fears the people, you have liberty. When the people fear the government, you have tyranny.

  • Anonymous

    Obama has embraced Bush’s foreign policy, war policy, even his Secretary of Defense. Looks like we can trust neither party to “change” anything. Yet, during the Clinton years, Jim Baker and Warren Christopher rigged the system so that no third party candidate could ever do what Ross Perot did in 1992.

    Now, with the TSA, “Homeland Security” (nice Nazi ring to it, **Heimatslanddienst**), and SWAT teams everywhere, do you think they might be expecting a revolution?

    When the government fears the people, you have liberty. When the people fear the government, you have tyranny.

  • Anonymous

    Obama has embraced Bush’s foreign policy, war policy, even his Secretary of Defense. Looks like we can trust neither party to “change” anything. Yet, during the Clinton years, Jim Baker and Warren Christopher rigged the system so that no third party candidate could ever do what Ross Perot did in 1992.

    Now, with the TSA, “Homeland Security” (nice Nazi ring to it, **Heimatslanddienst**), and SWAT teams everywhere, do you think they might be expecting a revolution?

    When the government fears the people, you have liberty. When the people fear the government, you have tyranny.

  • Anonymous

    Obama has embraced Bush’s foreign policy, war policy, even his Secretary of Defense. Looks like we can trust neither party to “change” anything. Yet, during the Clinton years, Jim Baker and Warren Christopher rigged the system so that no third party candidate could ever do what Ross Perot did in 1992.

    Now, with the TSA, “Homeland Security” (nice Nazi ring to it, **Heimatslanddienst**), and SWAT teams everywhere, do you think they might be expecting a revolution?

    When the government fears the people, you have liberty. When the people fear the government, you have tyranny.

  • Anonymous

    Obama has embraced Bush’s foreign policy, war policy, even his Secretary of Defense. Looks like we can trust neither party to “change” anything. Yet, during the Clinton years, Jim Baker and Warren Christopher rigged the system so that no third party candidate could ever do what Ross Perot did in 1992.

    Now, with the TSA, “Homeland Security” (nice Nazi ring to it, **Heimatslanddienst**), and SWAT teams everywhere, do you think they might be expecting a revolution?

    When the government fears the people, you have liberty. When the people fear the government, you have tyranny.

  • http://www.philipbrennan.net/2010/12/17/exclusive-us-empire-could-collapse-at-any-time-pulitzer-winner-tells-raw-story/ Exclusive: US empire could collapse at any time, Pulitzer winner tells Raw Story | Philip Brennan

    [...] Diebenow | Raw Story | 17 December [...]

  • http://twitter.com/shivabeach Shiva

    if we don’t get out of these wars I’m afraid this article might be true. I don’t give two hoots and a holler for Afghanistan.

  • http://twitter.com/shivabeach Shiva

    if we don’t get out of these wars I’m afraid this article might be true. I don’t give two hoots and a holler for Afghanistan.

  • http://twitter.com/shivabeach Shiva

    if we don’t get out of these wars I’m afraid this article might be true. I don’t give two hoots and a holler for Afghanistan.

  • http://twitter.com/shivabeach Shiva

    if we don’t get out of these wars I’m afraid this article might be true. I don’t give two hoots and a holler for Afghanistan.

  • http://twitter.com/shivabeach Shiva

    if we don’t get out of these wars I’m afraid this article might be true. I don’t give two hoots and a holler for Afghanistan.

  • http://twitter.com/shivabeach Shiva

    if we don’t get out of these wars I’m afraid this article might be true. I don’t give two hoots and a holler for Afghanistan.

  • http://twitter.com/shivabeach Shiva

    if we don’t get out of these wars I’m afraid this article might be true. I don’t give two hoots and a holler for Afghanistan.

  • http://twitter.com/shivabeach Shiva

    if we don’t get out of these wars I’m afraid this article might be true. I don’t give two hoots and a holler for Afghanistan.

  • http://twitter.com/shivabeach Shiva

    if we don’t get out of these wars I’m afraid this article might be true. I don’t give two hoots and a holler for Afghanistan.

  • http://twitter.com/shivabeach Shiva

    if we don’t get out of these wars I’m afraid this article might be true. I don’t give two hoots and a holler for Afghanistan.

  • D.Crockett

    if capitalism = corruption and our two party political system cannot learn to work together and we cant bring back manufacturing back to the U.S.in order to eliminate our high unemployment rate and give us the ability to defend ourselves and implement a fair tax system for all and provide a good health care system because we are the richest country in the world. than we could be headed for collapse!

  • D.Crockett

    if capitalism = corruption and our two party political system cannot learn to work together and we cant bring back manufacturing back to the U.S.in order to eliminate our high unemployment rate and give us the ability to defend ourselves and implement a fair tax system for all and provide a good health care system because we are the richest country in the world. than we could be headed for collapse!

  • D.Crockett

    if capitalism = corruption and our two party political system cannot learn to work together and we cant bring back manufacturing back to the U.S.in order to eliminate our high unemployment rate and give us the ability to defend ourselves and implement a fair tax system for all and provide a good health care system because we are the richest country in the world. than we could be headed for collapse!

  • D.Crockett

    if capitalism = corruption and our two party political system cannot learn to work together and we cant bring back manufacturing back to the U.S.in order to eliminate our high unemployment rate and give us the ability to defend ourselves and implement a fair tax system for all and provide a good health care system because we are the richest country in the world. than we could be headed for collapse!

  • D.Crockett

    if capitalism = corruption and our two party political system cannot learn to work together and we cant bring back manufacturing back to the U.S.in order to eliminate our high unemployment rate and give us the ability to defend ourselves and implement a fair tax system for all and provide a good health care system because we are the richest country in the world. than we could be headed for collapse!

  • D.Crockett

    if capitalism = corruption and our two party political system cannot learn to work together and we cant bring back manufacturing back to the U.S.in order to eliminate our high unemployment rate and give us the ability to defend ourselves and implement a fair tax system for all and provide a good health care system because we are the richest country in the world. than we could be headed for collapse!

  • D.Crockett

    if capitalism = corruption and our two party political system cannot learn to work together and we cant bring back manufacturing back to the U.S.in order to eliminate our high unemployment rate and give us the ability to defend ourselves and implement a fair tax system for all and provide a good health care system because we are the richest country in the world. than we could be headed for collapse!

  • D.Crockett

    if capitalism = corruption and our two party political system cannot learn to work together and we cant bring back manufacturing back to the U.S.in order to eliminate our high unemployment rate and give us the ability to defend ourselves and implement a fair tax system for all and provide a good health care system because we are the richest country in the world. than we could be headed for collapse!

  • D.Crockett

    if capitalism = corruption and our two party political system cannot learn to work together and we cant bring back manufacturing back to the U.S.in order to eliminate our high unemployment rate and give us the ability to defend ourselves and implement a fair tax system for all and provide a good health care system because we are the richest country in the world. than we could be headed for collapse!

  • D.Crockett

    if capitalism = corruption and our two party political system cannot learn to work together and we cant bring back manufacturing back to the U.S.in order to eliminate our high unemployment rate and give us the ability to defend ourselves and implement a fair tax system for all and provide a good health care system because we are the richest country in the world. than we could be headed for collapse!

  • D.Crockett

    if capitalism = corruption and our two party political system cannot learn to work together and we cant bring back manufacturing back to the U.S.in order to eliminate our high unemployment rate and give us the ability to defend ourselves and implement a fair tax system for all and provide a good health care system because we are the richest country in the world. than we could be headed for collapse!

  • D.Crockett

    if capitalism = corruption and our two party political system cannot learn to work together and we cant bring back manufacturing back to the U.S.in order to eliminate our high unemployment rate and give us the ability to defend ourselves and implement a fair tax system for all and provide a good health care system because we are the richest country in the world. than we could be headed for collapse!

  • D.Crockett

    if capitalism = corruption and our two party political system cannot learn to work together and we cant bring back manufacturing back to the U.S.in order to eliminate our high unemployment rate and give us the ability to defend ourselves and implement a fair tax system for all and provide a good health care system because we are the richest country in the world. than we could be headed for collapse!

  • D.Crockett

    if capitalism = corruption and our two party political system cannot learn to work together and we cant bring back manufacturing back to the U.S.in order to eliminate our high unemployment rate and give us the ability to defend ourselves and implement a fair tax system for all and provide a good health care system because we are the richest country in the world. than we could be headed for collapse!

  • D.Crockett

    if capitalism = corruption and our two party political system cannot learn to work together and we cant bring back manufacturing back to the U.S.in order to eliminate our high unemployment rate and give us the ability to defend ourselves and implement a fair tax system for all and provide a good health care system because we are the richest country in the world. than we could be headed for collapse!

  • D.Crockett

    if capitalism = corruption and our two party political system cannot learn to work together and we cant bring back manufacturing back to the U.S.in order to eliminate our high unemployment rate and give us the ability to defend ourselves and implement a fair tax system for all and provide a good health care system because we are the richest country in the world. than we could be headed for collapse!

  • D.Crockett

    if capitalism = corruption and our two party political system cannot learn to work together and we cant bring back manufacturing back to the U.S.in order to eliminate our high unemployment rate and give us the ability to defend ourselves and implement a fair tax system for all and provide a good health care system because we are the richest country in the world. than we could be headed for collapse!

  • D.Crockett

    if capitalism = corruption and our two party political system cannot learn to work together and we cant bring back manufacturing back to the U.S.in order to eliminate our high unemployment rate and give us the ability to defend ourselves and implement a fair tax system for all and provide a good health care system because we are the richest country in the world. than we could be headed for collapse!

  • D.Crockett

    if capitalism = corruption and our two party political system cannot learn to work together and we cant bring back manufacturing back to the U.S.in order to eliminate our high unemployment rate and give us the ability to defend ourselves and implement a fair tax system for all and provide a good health care system because we are the richest country in the world. than we could be headed for collapse!

  • Anonymous

    Actually they did not quote it as a fact but as what the corporations are brainwashing Americans to believe to get them to accept substandard wages as the going rate for labor in the world. It is a reflection of the corporationms taking control of America and the message they allow Americans to hear, kind of like FOX news watchers becoming stupid after watching FOX news for any length of time.

  • Anonymous

    Actually they did not quote it as a fact but as what the corporations are brainwashing Americans to believe to get them to accept substandard wages as the going rate for labor in the world. It is a reflection of the corporationms taking control of America and the message they allow Americans to hear, kind of like FOX news watchers becoming stupid after watching FOX news for any length of time.

  • Anonymous

    Actually they did not quote it as a fact but as what the corporations are brainwashing Americans to believe to get them to accept substandard wages as the going rate for labor in the world. It is a reflection of the corporationms taking control of America and the message they allow Americans to hear, kind of like FOX news watchers becoming stupid after watching FOX news for any length of time.

  • Anonymous

    Actually they did not quote it as a fact but as what the corporations are brainwashing Americans to believe to get them to accept substandard wages as the going rate for labor in the world. It is a reflection of the corporationms taking control of America and the message they allow Americans to hear, kind of like FOX news watchers becoming stupid after watching FOX news for any length of time.

  • Anonymous

    Actually they did not quote it as a fact but as what the corporations are brainwashing Americans to believe to get them to accept substandard wages as the going rate for labor in the world. It is a reflection of the corporationms taking control of America and the message they allow Americans to hear, kind of like FOX news watchers becoming stupid after watching FOX news for any length of time.

  • Anonymous

    Actually they did not quote it as a fact but as what the corporations are brainwashing Americans to believe to get them to accept substandard wages as the going rate for labor in the world. It is a reflection of the corporationms taking control of America and the message they allow Americans to hear, kind of like FOX news watchers becoming stupid after watching FOX news for any length of time.

  • Anonymous

    Actually they did not quote it as a fact but as what the corporations are brainwashing Americans to believe to get them to accept substandard wages as the going rate for labor in the world. It is a reflection of the corporationms taking control of America and the message they allow Americans to hear, kind of like FOX news watchers becoming stupid after watching FOX news for any length of time.

  • Anonymous

    Actually they did not quote it as a fact but as what the corporations are brainwashing Americans to believe to get them to accept substandard wages as the going rate for labor in the world. It is a reflection of the corporationms taking control of America and the message they allow Americans to hear, kind of like FOX news watchers becoming stupid after watching FOX news for any length of time.

  • Anonymous

    Actually they did not quote it as a fact but as what the corporations are brainwashing Americans to believe to get them to accept substandard wages as the going rate for labor in the world. It is a reflection of the corporationms taking control of America and the message they allow Americans to hear, kind of like FOX news watchers becoming stupid after watching FOX news for any length of time.

  • Anonymous

    Actually they did not quote it as a fact but as what the corporations are brainwashing Americans to believe to get them to accept substandard wages as the going rate for labor in the world. It is a reflection of the corporationms taking control of America and the message they allow Americans to hear, kind of like FOX news watchers becoming stupid after watching FOX news for any length of time.

  • Anonymous

    Actually they did not quote it as a fact but as what the corporations are brainwashing Americans to believe to get them to accept substandard wages as the going rate for labor in the world. It is a reflection of the corporationms taking control of America and the message they allow Americans to hear, kind of like FOX news watchers becoming stupid after watching FOX news for any length of time.

  • Anonymous

    Actually they did not quote it as a fact but as what the corporations are brainwashing Americans to believe to get them to accept substandard wages as the going rate for labor in the world. It is a reflection of the corporationms taking control of America and the message they allow Americans to hear, kind of like FOX news watchers becoming stupid after watching FOX news for any length of time.

  • Anonymous

    Actually they did not quote it as a fact but as what the corporations are brainwashing Americans to believe to get them to accept substandard wages as the going rate for labor in the world. It is a reflection of the corporationms taking control of America and the message they allow Americans to hear, kind of like FOX news watchers becoming stupid after watching FOX news for any length of time.

  • Anonymous

    Actually they did not quote it as a fact but as what the corporations are brainwashing Americans to believe to get them to accept substandard wages as the going rate for labor in the world. It is a reflection of the corporationms taking control of America and the message they allow Americans to hear, kind of like FOX news watchers becoming stupid after watching FOX news for any length of time.

  • Anonymous

    Actually they did not quote it as a fact but as what the corporations are brainwashing Americans to believe to get them to accept substandard wages as the going rate for labor in the world. It is a reflection of the corporationms taking control of America and the message they allow Americans to hear, kind of like FOX news watchers becoming stupid after watching FOX news for any length of time.

  • Anonymous

    Actually they did not quote it as a fact but as what the corporations are brainwashing Americans to believe to get them to accept substandard wages as the going rate for labor in the world. It is a reflection of the corporationms taking control of America and the message they allow Americans to hear, kind of like FOX news watchers becoming stupid after watching FOX news for any length of time.

  • Anonymous

    Actually they did not quote it as a fact but as what the corporations are brainwashing Americans to believe to get them to accept substandard wages as the going rate for labor in the world. It is a reflection of the corporationms taking control of America and the message they allow Americans to hear, kind of like FOX news watchers becoming stupid after watching FOX news for any length of time.

  • Anonymous

    Actually they did not quote it as a fact but as what the corporations are brainwashing Americans to believe to get them to accept substandard wages as the going rate for labor in the world. It is a reflection of the corporationms taking control of America and the message they allow Americans to hear, kind of like FOX news watchers becoming stupid after watching FOX news for any length of time.

  • Anonymous

    Actually they did not quote it as a fact but as what the corporations are brainwashing Americans to believe to get them to accept substandard wages as the going rate for labor in the world. It is a reflection of the corporationms taking control of America and the message they allow Americans to hear, kind of like FOX news watchers becoming stupid after watching FOX news for any length of time.

  • Anonymous

    Actually they did not quote it as a fact but as what the corporations are brainwashing Americans to believe to get them to accept substandard wages as the going rate for labor in the world. It is a reflection of the corporationms taking control of America and the message they allow Americans to hear, kind of like FOX news watchers becoming stupid after watching FOX news for any length of time.

  • Anonymous

    Actually they did not quote it as a fact but as what the corporations are brainwashing Americans to believe to get them to accept substandard wages as the going rate for labor in the world. It is a reflection of the corporationms taking control of America and the message they allow Americans to hear, kind of like FOX news watchers becoming stupid after watching FOX news for any length of time.

  • Anonymous

    Actually they did not quote it as a fact but as what the corporations are brainwashing Americans to believe to get them to accept substandard wages as the going rate for labor in the world. It is a reflection of the corporationms taking control of America and the message they allow Americans to hear, kind of like FOX news watchers becoming stupid after watching FOX news for any length of time.

  • Anonymous

    Actually they did not quote it as a fact but as what the corporations are brainwashing Americans to believe to get them to accept substandard wages as the going rate for labor in the world. It is a reflection of the corporationms taking control of America and the message they allow Americans to hear, kind of like FOX news watchers becoming stupid after watching FOX news for any length of time.

  • Anonymous

    Actually they did not quote it as a fact but as what the corporations are brainwashing Americans to believe to get them to accept substandard wages as the going rate for labor in the world. It is a reflection of the corporationms taking control of America and the message they allow Americans to hear, kind of like FOX news watchers becoming stupid after watching FOX news for any length of time.

  • Anonymous

    Actually they did not quote it as a fact but as what the corporations are brainwashing Americans to believe to get them to accept substandard wages as the going rate for labor in the world. It is a reflection of the corporationms taking control of America and the message they allow Americans to hear, kind of like FOX news watchers becoming stupid after watching FOX news for any length of time.

  • Anonymous

    Actually they did not quote it as a fact but as what the corporations are brainwashing Americans to believe to get them to accept substandard wages as the going rate for labor in the world. It is a reflection of the corporationms taking control of America and the message they allow Americans to hear, kind of like FOX news watchers becoming stupid after watching FOX news for any length of time.

  • Anonymous

    Actually they did not quote it as a fact but as what the corporations are brainwashing Americans to believe to get them to accept substandard wages as the going rate for labor in the world. It is a reflection of the corporationms taking control of America and the message they allow Americans to hear, kind of like FOX news watchers becoming stupid after watching FOX news for any length of time.

  • Anonymous

    Actually they did not quote it as a fact but as what the corporations are brainwashing Americans to believe to get them to accept substandard wages as the going rate for labor in the world. It is a reflection of the corporationms taking control of America and the message they allow Americans to hear, kind of like FOX news watchers becoming stupid after watching FOX news for any length of time.

  • Anonymous

    Actually they did not quote it as a fact but as what the corporations are brainwashing Americans to believe to get them to accept substandard wages as the going rate for labor in the world. It is a reflection of the corporationms taking control of America and the message they allow Americans to hear, kind of like FOX news watchers becoming stupid after watching FOX news for any length of time.

  • Anonymous

    Actually they did not quote it as a fact but as what the corporations are brainwashing Americans to believe to get them to accept substandard wages as the going rate for labor in the world. It is a reflection of the corporationms taking control of America and the message they allow Americans to hear, kind of like FOX news watchers becoming stupid after watching FOX news for any length of time.

  • Anonymous

    Actually they did not quote it as a fact but as what the corporations are brainwashing Americans to believe to get them to accept substandard wages as the going rate for labor in the world. It is a reflection of the corporationms taking control of America and the message they allow Americans to hear, kind of like FOX news watchers becoming stupid after watching FOX news for any length of time.

  • Anonymous

    Actually they did not quote it as a fact but as what the corporations are brainwashing Americans to believe to get them to accept substandard wages as the going rate for labor in the world. It is a reflection of the corporationms taking control of America and the message they allow Americans to hear, kind of like FOX news watchers becoming stupid after watching FOX news for any length of time.

  • Anonymous

    Actually they did not quote it as a fact but as what the corporations are brainwashing Americans to believe to get them to accept substandard wages as the going rate for labor in the world. It is a reflection of the corporationms taking control of America and the message they allow Americans to hear, kind of like FOX news watchers becoming stupid after watching FOX news for any length of time.

  • Anonymous

    Actually they did not quote it as a fact but as what the corporations are brainwashing Americans to believe to get them to accept substandard wages as the going rate for labor in the world. It is a reflection of the corporationms taking control of America and the message they allow Americans to hear, kind of like FOX news watchers becoming stupid after watching FOX news for any length of time.

  • Anonymous

    Actually they did not quote it as a fact but as what the corporations are brainwashing Americans to believe to get them to accept substandard wages as the going rate for labor in the world. It is a reflection of the corporationms taking control of America and the message they allow Americans to hear, kind of like FOX news watchers becoming stupid after watching FOX news for any length of time.

  • Anonymous

    Actually they did not quote it as a fact but as what the corporations are brainwashing Americans to believe to get them to accept substandard wages as the going rate for labor in the world. It is a reflection of the corporationms taking control of America and the message they allow Americans to hear, kind of like FOX news watchers becoming stupid after watching FOX news for any length of time.

  • Anonymous

    Actually they did not quote it as a fact but as what the corporations are brainwashing Americans to believe to get them to accept substandard wages as the going rate for labor in the world. It is a reflection of the corporationms taking control of America and the message they allow Americans to hear, kind of like FOX news watchers becoming stupid after watching FOX news for any length of time.

  • Anonymous

    Actually they did not quote it as a fact but as what the corporations are brainwashing Americans to believe to get them to accept substandard wages as the going rate for labor in the world. It is a reflection of the corporationms taking control of America and the message they allow Americans to hear, kind of like FOX news watchers becoming stupid after watching FOX news for any length of time.

  • Anonymous

    Actually they did not quote it as a fact but as what the corporations are brainwashing Americans to believe to get them to accept substandard wages as the going rate for labor in the world. It is a reflection of the corporationms taking control of America and the message they allow Americans to hear, kind of like FOX news watchers becoming stupid after watching FOX news for any length of time.

  • Anonymous

    Actually they did not quote it as a fact but as what the corporations are brainwashing Americans to believe to get them to accept substandard wages as the going rate for labor in the world. It is a reflection of the corporationms taking control of America and the message they allow Americans to hear, kind of like FOX news watchers becoming stupid after watching FOX news for any length of time.

  • Anonymous

    As a U.S. citizen it gives me no pleasure to say that it (collapse) can’t happen soon enough — so much innocent blood and so much suffering, ALL unnecessary, tracing directly to us, especially over the last 10 years.

    I’ll say it again, IT CAN’T COME SOON ENOUGH.

  • Anonymous

    As a U.S. citizen it gives me no pleasure to say that it (collapse) can’t happen soon enough — so much innocent blood and so much suffering, ALL unnecessary, tracing directly to us, especially over the last 10 years.

    I’ll say it again, IT CAN’T COME SOON ENOUGH.

  • Anonymous

    As a U.S. citizen it gives me no pleasure to say that it (collapse) can’t happen soon enough — so much innocent blood and so much suffering, ALL unnecessary, tracing directly to us, especially over the last 10 years.

    I’ll say it again, IT CAN’T COME SOON ENOUGH.

  • Anonymous

    As a U.S. citizen it gives me no pleasure to say that it (collapse) can’t happen soon enough — so much innocent blood and so much suffering, ALL unnecessary, tracing directly to us, especially over the last 10 years.

    I’ll say it again, IT CAN’T COME SOON ENOUGH.

  • Anonymous

    As a U.S. citizen it gives me no pleasure to say that it (collapse) can’t happen soon enough — so much innocent blood and so much suffering, ALL unnecessary, tracing directly to us, especially over the last 10 years.

    I’ll say it again, IT CAN’T COME SOON ENOUGH.

  • Anonymous

    As a U.S. citizen it gives me no pleasure to say that it (collapse) can’t happen soon enough — so much innocent blood and so much suffering, ALL unnecessary, tracing directly to us, especially over the last 10 years.

    I’ll say it again, IT CAN’T COME SOON ENOUGH.

  • Anonymous

    As a U.S. citizen it gives me no pleasure to say that it (collapse) can’t happen soon enough — so much innocent blood and so much suffering, ALL unnecessary, tracing directly to us, especially over the last 10 years.

    I’ll say it again, IT CAN’T COME SOON ENOUGH.

  • Anonymous

    As a U.S. citizen it gives me no pleasure to say that it (collapse) can’t happen soon enough — so much innocent blood and so much suffering, ALL unnecessary, tracing directly to us, especially over the last 10 years.

    I’ll say it again, IT CAN’T COME SOON ENOUGH.

  • Anonymous

    As a U.S. citizen it gives me no pleasure to say that it (collapse) can’t happen soon enough — so much innocent blood and so much suffering, ALL unnecessary, tracing directly to us, especially over the last 10 years.

    I’ll say it again, IT CAN’T COME SOON ENOUGH.

  • Anonymous

    As a U.S. citizen it gives me no pleasure to say that it (collapse) can’t happen soon enough — so much innocent blood and so much suffering, ALL unnecessary, tracing directly to us, especially over the last 10 years.

    I’ll say it again, IT CAN’T COME SOON ENOUGH.

  • Anonymous

    As a U.S. citizen it gives me no pleasure to say that it (collapse) can’t happen soon enough — so much innocent blood and so much suffering, ALL unnecessary, tracing directly to us, especially over the last 10 years.

    I’ll say it again, IT CAN’T COME SOON ENOUGH.

  • Anonymous

    As a U.S. citizen it gives me no pleasure to say that it (collapse) can’t happen soon enough — so much innocent blood and so much suffering, ALL unnecessary, tracing directly to us, especially over the last 10 years.

    I’ll say it again, IT CAN’T COME SOON ENOUGH.

  • Anonymous

    As a U.S. citizen it gives me no pleasure to say that it (collapse) can’t happen soon enough — so much innocent blood and so much suffering, ALL unnecessary, tracing directly to us, especially over the last 10 years.

    I’ll say it again, IT CAN’T COME SOON ENOUGH.

  • Anonymous

    As a U.S. citizen it gives me no pleasure to say that it (collapse) can’t happen soon enough — so much innocent blood and so much suffering, ALL unnecessary, tracing directly to us, especially over the last 10 years.

    I’ll say it again, IT CAN’T COME SOON ENOUGH.

  • Anonymous

    As a U.S. citizen it gives me no pleasure to say that it (collapse) can’t happen soon enough — so much innocent blood and so much suffering, ALL unnecessary, tracing directly to us, especially over the last 10 years.

    I’ll say it again, IT CAN’T COME SOON ENOUGH.

  • Anonymous

    As a U.S. citizen it gives me no pleasure to say that it (collapse) can’t happen soon enough — so much innocent blood and so much suffering, ALL unnecessary, tracing directly to us, especially over the last 10 years.

    I’ll say it again, IT CAN’T COME SOON ENOUGH.

  • Anonymous

    As a U.S. citizen it gives me no pleasure to say that it (collapse) can’t happen soon enough — so much innocent blood and so much suffering, ALL unnecessary, tracing directly to us, especially over the last 10 years.

    I’ll say it again, IT CAN’T COME SOON ENOUGH.

  • Anonymous

    As a U.S. citizen it gives me no pleasure to say that it (collapse) can’t happen soon enough — so much innocent blood and so much suffering, ALL unnecessary, tracing directly to us, especially over the last 10 years.

    I’ll say it again, IT CAN’T COME SOON ENOUGH.

  • Anonymous

    As a U.S. citizen it gives me no pleasure to say that it (collapse) can’t happen soon enough — so much innocent blood and so much suffering, ALL unnecessary, tracing directly to us, especially over the last 10 years.

    I’ll say it again, IT CAN’T COME SOON ENOUGH.

  • Anonymous

    As a U.S. citizen it gives me no pleasure to say that it (collapse) can’t happen soon enough — so much innocent blood and so much suffering, ALL unnecessary, tracing directly to us, especially over the last 10 years.

    I’ll say it again, IT CAN’T COME SOON ENOUGH.

  • Anonymous

    As a U.S. citizen it gives me no pleasure to say that it (collapse) can’t happen soon enough — so much innocent blood and so much suffering, ALL unnecessary, tracing directly to us, especially over the last 10 years.

    I’ll say it again, IT CAN’T COME SOON ENOUGH.

  • Anonymous

    As a U.S. citizen it gives me no pleasure to say that it (collapse) can’t happen soon enough — so much innocent blood and so much suffering, ALL unnecessary, tracing directly to us, especially over the last 10 years.

    I’ll say it again, IT CAN’T COME SOON ENOUGH.

  • Anonymous

    As a U.S. citizen it gives me no pleasure to say that it (collapse) can’t happen soon enough — so much innocent blood and so much suffering, ALL unnecessary, tracing directly to us, especially over the last 10 years.

    I’ll say it again, IT CAN’T COME SOON ENOUGH.

  • Anonymous

    As a U.S. citizen it gives me no pleasure to say that it (collapse) can’t happen soon enough — so much innocent blood and so much suffering, ALL unnecessary, tracing directly to us, especially over the last 10 years.

    I’ll say it again, IT CAN’T COME SOON ENOUGH.

  • Anonymous

    As a U.S. citizen it gives me no pleasure to say that it (collapse) can’t happen soon enough — so much innocent blood and so much suffering, ALL unnecessary, tracing directly to us, especially over the last 10 years.

    I’ll say it again, IT CAN’T COME SOON ENOUGH.

  • Anonymous

    As a U.S. citizen it gives me no pleasure to say that it (collapse) can’t happen soon enough — so much innocent blood and so much suffering, ALL unnecessary, tracing directly to us, especially over the last 10 years.

    I’ll say it again, IT CAN’T COME SOON ENOUGH.

  • Anonymous

    As a U.S. citizen it gives me no pleasure to say that it (collapse) can’t happen soon enough — so much innocent blood and so much suffering, ALL unnecessary, tracing directly to us, especially over the last 10 years.

    I’ll say it again, IT CAN’T COME SOON ENOUGH.

  • Anonymous

    As a U.S. citizen it gives me no pleasure to say that it (collapse) can’t happen soon enough — so much innocent blood and so much suffering, ALL unnecessary, tracing directly to us, especially over the last 10 years.

    I’ll say it again, IT CAN’T COME SOON ENOUGH.

  • Anonymous

    As a U.S. citizen it gives me no pleasure to say that it (collapse) can’t happen soon enough — so much innocent blood and so much suffering, ALL unnecessary, tracing directly to us, especially over the last 10 years.

    I’ll say it again, IT CAN’T COME SOON ENOUGH.

  • Anonymous

    As a U.S. citizen it gives me no pleasure to say that it (collapse) can’t happen soon enough — so much innocent blood and so much suffering, ALL unnecessary, tracing directly to us, especially over the last 10 years.

    I’ll say it again, IT CAN’T COME SOON ENOUGH.

  • Anonymous

    As a U.S. citizen it gives me no pleasure to say that it (collapse) can’t happen soon enough — so much innocent blood and so much suffering, ALL unnecessary, tracing directly to us, especially over the last 10 years.

    I’ll say it again, IT CAN’T COME SOON ENOUGH.

  • Anonymous

    As a U.S. citizen it gives me no pleasure to say that it (collapse) can’t happen soon enough — so much innocent blood and so much suffering, ALL unnecessary, tracing directly to us, especially over the last 10 years.

    I’ll say it again, IT CAN’T COME SOON ENOUGH.

  • Anonymous

    As a U.S. citizen it gives me no pleasure to say that it (collapse) can’t happen soon enough — so much innocent blood and so much suffering, ALL unnecessary, tracing directly to us, especially over the last 10 years.

    I’ll say it again, IT CAN’T COME SOON ENOUGH.

  • ghostof911

    The wealthiest 2% are in a tax utopia and they are acquiring all of the bottom 98%’s assets.

    They are also bankrupting European economies.

  • ghostof911

    The wealthiest 2% are in a tax utopia and they are acquiring all of the bottom 98%’s assets.

    They are also bankrupting European economies.

  • ghostof911

    The wealthiest 2% are in a tax utopia and they are acquiring all of the bottom 98%’s assets.

    They are also bankrupting European economies.

  • ghostof911

    The wealthiest 2% are in a tax utopia and they are acquiring all of the bottom 98%’s assets.

    They are also bankrupting European economies.

  • ghostof911

    The wealthiest 2% are in a tax utopia and they are acquiring all of the bottom 98%’s assets.

    They are also bankrupting European economies.

  • ghostof911

    The wealthiest 2% are in a tax utopia and they are acquiring all of the bottom 98%’s assets.

    They are also bankrupting European economies.

  • ghostof911

    The wealthiest 2% are in a tax utopia and they are acquiring all of the bottom 98%’s assets.

    They are also bankrupting European economies.

  • ghostof911

    The wealthiest 2% are in a tax utopia and they are acquiring all of the bottom 98%’s assets.

    They are also bankrupting European economies.

  • ghostof911

    The wealthiest 2% are in a tax utopia and they are acquiring all of the bottom 98%’s assets.

    They are also bankrupting European economies.

  • ghostof911

    The wealthiest 2% are in a tax utopia and they are acquiring all of the bottom 98%’s assets.

    They are also bankrupting European economies.

  • ghostof911

    The wealthiest 2% are in a tax utopia and they are acquiring all of the bottom 98%’s assets.

    They are also bankrupting European economies.

  • Anonymous

    get over that richest country in the world stuff, that is gone. Look at our balance sheet. The rest of the world will and what we are is Broke

  • Anonymous

    get over that richest country in the world stuff, that is gone. Look at our balance sheet. The rest of the world will and what we are is Broke

  • Anonymous

    get over that richest country in the world stuff, that is gone. Look at our balance sheet. The rest of the world will and what we are is Broke

  • Anonymous

    get over that richest country in the world stuff, that is gone. Look at our balance sheet. The rest of the world will and what we are is Broke

  • Anonymous

    get over that richest country in the world stuff, that is gone. Look at our balance sheet. The rest of the world will and what we are is Broke

  • Anonymous

    get over that richest country in the world stuff, that is gone. Look at our balance sheet. The rest of the world will and what we are is Broke

  • Anonymous

    get over that richest country in the world stuff, that is gone. Look at our balance sheet. The rest of the world will and what we are is Broke

  • Anonymous

    get over that richest country in the world stuff, that is gone. Look at our balance sheet. The rest of the world will and what we are is Broke

  • Anonymous

    get over that richest country in the world stuff, that is gone. Look at our balance sheet. The rest of the world will and what we are is Broke

  • Anonymous

    get over that richest country in the world stuff, that is gone. Look at our balance sheet. The rest of the world will and what we are is Broke

  • Anonymous

    get over that richest country in the world stuff, that is gone. Look at our balance sheet. The rest of the world will and what we are is Broke

  • Carl Elderton

    Now where have I heard this before? Oh, I’ve been saying it for a couple of years. The response was to tell me to leave the country. I guess that’s better than being arrested.

  • Carl Elderton

    Now where have I heard this before? Oh, I’ve been saying it for a couple of years. The response was to tell me to leave the country. I guess that’s better than being arrested.

  • Carl Elderton

    Now where have I heard this before? Oh, I’ve been saying it for a couple of years. The response was to tell me to leave the country. I guess that’s better than being arrested.

  • Carl Elderton

    Now where have I heard this before? Oh, I’ve been saying it for a couple of years. The response was to tell me to leave the country. I guess that’s better than being arrested.

  • Carl Elderton

    Now where have I heard this before? Oh, I’ve been saying it for a couple of years. The response was to tell me to leave the country. I guess that’s better than being arrested.

  • Carl Elderton

    Now where have I heard this before? Oh, I’ve been saying it for a couple of years. The response was to tell me to leave the country. I guess that’s better than being arrested.

  • Carl Elderton

    Now where have I heard this before? Oh, I’ve been saying it for a couple of years. The response was to tell me to leave the country. I guess that’s better than being arrested.

  • Carl Elderton

    Now where have I heard this before? Oh, I’ve been saying it for a couple of years. The response was to tell me to leave the country. I guess that’s better than being arrested.

  • Carl Elderton

    Now where have I heard this before? Oh, I’ve been saying it for a couple of years. The response was to tell me to leave the country. I guess that’s better than being arrested.

  • Carl Elderton

    Now where have I heard this before? Oh, I’ve been saying it for a couple of years. The response was to tell me to leave the country. I guess that’s better than being arrested.

  • Carl Elderton

    Now where have I heard this before? Oh, I’ve been saying it for a couple of years. The response was to tell me to leave the country. I guess that’s better than being arrested.

  • Carl Elderton

    Now where have I heard this before? Oh, I’ve been saying it for a couple of years. The response was to tell me to leave the country. I guess that’s better than being arrested.

  • Carl Elderton

    Now where have I heard this before? Oh, I’ve been saying it for a couple of years. The response was to tell me to leave the country. I guess that’s better than being arrested.

  • Carl Elderton

    Now where have I heard this before? Oh, I’ve been saying it for a couple of years. The response was to tell me to leave the country. I guess that’s better than being arrested.

  • Carl Elderton

    Now where have I heard this before? Oh, I’ve been saying it for a couple of years. The response was to tell me to leave the country. I guess that’s better than being arrested.

  • Carl Elderton

    Now where have I heard this before? Oh, I’ve been saying it for a couple of years. The response was to tell me to leave the country. I guess that’s better than being arrested.

  • Carl Elderton

    Now where have I heard this before? Oh, I’ve been saying it for a couple of years. The response was to tell me to leave the country. I guess that’s better than being arrested.

  • Carl Elderton

    Now where have I heard this before? Oh, I’ve been saying it for a couple of years. The response was to tell me to leave the country. I guess that’s better than being arrested.

  • Carl Elderton

    Now where have I heard this before? Oh, I’ve been saying it for a couple of years. The response was to tell me to leave the country. I guess that’s better than being arrested.

  • Carl Elderton

    Now where have I heard this before? Oh, I’ve been saying it for a couple of years. The response was to tell me to leave the country. I guess that’s better than being arrested.

  • Carl Elderton

    Now where have I heard this before? Oh, I’ve been saying it for a couple of years. The response was to tell me to leave the country. I guess that’s better than being arrested.

  • Carl Elderton

    Now where have I heard this before? Oh, I’ve been saying it for a couple of years. The response was to tell me to leave the country. I guess that’s better than being arrested.

  • Carl Elderton

    Now where have I heard this before? Oh, I’ve been saying it for a couple of years. The response was to tell me to leave the country. I guess that’s better than being arrested.

  • Carl Elderton

    Now where have I heard this before? Oh, I’ve been saying it for a couple of years. The response was to tell me to leave the country. I guess that’s better than being arrested.

  • Carl Elderton

    Now where have I heard this before? Oh, I’ve been saying it for a couple of years. The response was to tell me to leave the country. I guess that’s better than being arrested.

  • Carl Elderton

    Now where have I heard this before? Oh, I’ve been saying it for a couple of years. The response was to tell me to leave the country. I guess that’s better than being arrested.

  • Carl Elderton

    Now where have I heard this before? Oh, I’ve been saying it for a couple of years. The response was to tell me to leave the country. I guess that’s better than being arrested.

  • Carl Elderton

    Now where have I heard this before? Oh, I’ve been saying it for a couple of years. The response was to tell me to leave the country. I guess that’s better than being arrested.

  • Carl Elderton

    Now where have I heard this before? Oh, I’ve been saying it for a couple of years. The response was to tell me to leave the country. I guess that’s better than being arrested.

  • Carl Elderton

    Now where have I heard this before? Oh, I’ve been saying it for a couple of years. The response was to tell me to leave the country. I guess that’s better than being arrested.

  • Carl Elderton

    Now where have I heard this before? Oh, I’ve been saying it for a couple of years. The response was to tell me to leave the country. I guess that’s better than being arrested.

  • Carl Elderton

    Now where have I heard this before? Oh, I’ve been saying it for a couple of years. The response was to tell me to leave the country. I guess that’s better than being arrested.

  • Carl Elderton

    Now where have I heard this before? Oh, I’ve been saying it for a couple of years. The response was to tell me to leave the country. I guess that’s better than being arrested.

  • Carl Elderton

    Now where have I heard this before? Oh, I’ve been saying it for a couple of years. The response was to tell me to leave the country. I guess that’s better than being arrested.

  • Carl Elderton

    Now where have I heard this before? Oh, I’ve been saying it for a couple of years. The response was to tell me to leave the country. I guess that’s better than being arrested.

  • Carl Elderton

    Now where have I heard this before? Oh, I’ve been saying it for a couple of years. The response was to tell me to leave the country. I guess that’s better than being arrested.

  • Carl Elderton

    Now where have I heard this before? Oh, I’ve been saying it for a couple of years. The response was to tell me to leave the country. I guess that’s better than being arrested.

  • Carl Elderton

    Now where have I heard this before? Oh, I’ve been saying it for a couple of years. The response was to tell me to leave the country. I guess that’s better than being arrested.

  • Carl Elderton

    Now where have I heard this before? Oh, I’ve been saying it for a couple of years. The response was to tell me to leave the country. I guess that’s better than being arrested.

  • Carl Elderton

    Now where have I heard this before? Oh, I’ve been saying it for a couple of years. The response was to tell me to leave the country. I guess that’s better than being arrested.

  • Carl Elderton

    Now where have I heard this before? Oh, I’ve been saying it for a couple of years. The response was to tell me to leave the country. I guess that’s better than being arrested.

  • Carl Elderton

    Now where have I heard this before? Oh, I’ve been saying it for a couple of years. The response was to tell me to leave the country. I guess that’s better than being arrested.

  • Carl Elderton

    Now where have I heard this before? Oh, I’ve been saying it for a couple of years. The response was to tell me to leave the country. I guess that’s better than being arrested.

  • Anonymous

    “I think he needs to relax, breathe, and smell a flower with infinite gratitude.”

    Of course you do–and that’s why you’re not Chris Hedges….

  • Anonymous

    My fears are the same as yours.
    When I investigate the history and the structure of our political climate I have come to find that there is very little wiggle room to enjoy my patriotism.

  • Anonymous

    Joe,
    I love your optimism.

    IMO it’s hard to say what may come (except, as you note, Max won’t show up). The 60s produced some egalitarianism and civil rights that lasted for a few years. Then the godforsaken “conservatives” returned to screw it all up again — but with some positive results remaining for citizens.

    A big difference between then and now is we were the King of All but now we’re teetering economically as the great change engine of history arrives, and we’re controlled by economic forces and powers beyond our grasp.

    I predict more heavy drug use, social destruction (families, homelessness) and a depressed, beaten-down civil reaction — until people finally, out of desperation, hit the streets, at risk, to protest for change.

    It will get ugly unless true anomie is here. Wishfully, our nat’l character of fighting back, MAY FINALLY resurface.

    If it doesn’t, IMO we will see lots more poverty and crime, like in Eastern Europe and many other places, wherein so many are on the take and/or scrambling to stay alive and feed families. Basically the middle class becomes the lower m. c. and the lower m. c. drops, etc., not exactly the American dream.

    Last, I strongly believe protest in the streets can force change — but it’s risky business that goes far beyond blogging. People will have a choice — get shit on or stand up and fight.

  • http://www.facebook.com/gregory.p.smith1 Gregory Paul Smith

    Okay, I’ve read an article that supports his statement. And I am appalled that we cannot do much about it from our end. What are we to do except spread the word, and pressure our government to lobby the UN to condemn China for their practices, and press for fair trade not free trade. We need to ask ourselves whether the cheap prices we get for consumer goods imported from China are really worth it? China sold it’s people the dream of Marx’s worker’s paradise and got slavery instead. We were sold the capitalist dream of free trade and wound up supporting communist totalitarianism! Free trade would be fair trade, if we were trading with free countries. I know it would hurt, but the only moral thing to do in this situation would be to cut off all trade with China until these abuses end. A UN sponsored embargo would do the trick! I know it’s radical, but something has to be done!

  • Anonymous

    Anyone who is looking objectively can see it coming, how can a society that is so self consumed and indifferent to the rest of the world last, we are destroying our resources and our ecosystem in the name of profit. Killing in the name of corporate profits, the exploitation of the poor and sick. The world is also over populated and growing, something has to give the stress is growing higher and higher across the globe. Face it when 9/11 happened it set of the inevitable scenario. THE END OF THE EMPIRE

  • Anonymous

    GREED THE ROOT TO ALL EVIL = RETUGLICON
    GREED THE DESIRE TO WANT AND HAVE MOOOOOOOOORE THEN ONE NEEDS OR DESERVES……………………………

  • Anonymous

    Thank God Hedges finally said “physically resist.” We’ve seen that contacting our representatives generally gets no results. Ordinary protests around the country–and even those by people like Stewart and Colbert–are either not covered or barely covered. The media does not give us the truth, just speculation or two opposing sides arguing with no facts presented.

    However, if we pay attention and just look around, we can see the collapse now. I have many friends who are barely scraping by or who are just broke. Some of them are educated professionals. I’ve already learned to live on less with Social Security, and have managed to build up a supply of basics as well as alternative heating–so that gives you an idea of how bad it will become.

    And since the clowns in Congress will not address our problems, the choice boils down to (1) hiding out in the woods or (2) revolution.

  • Anonymous

    Actually, it’s fairly well known that China does indeed use slave labor for it’s businesses. And you’re right, we CAN’T compete against that. We were NEVER SUPPOSED TO. This whole last 30 years in this country have been a huge race to the bottom, with education, justice, and sanity going right down the toilet as quickly as the righties and the rich thought they could get away with it.

    The thing is, if you look at everything they have done to us in the last 30 years, it’s pretty clear that it’s all been a definite plan. They lowered our wages, took away our benefits, raised prices on everything, bad mouthed American workers at every chance, dropped the tariffs that USED to keep business competitive for 200+ years, dropped taxes on businesses, gave them breaks for shutting down and moving factories to foreign countries (47,000 of them during W’s time ALONE), and a whole host of other things that were DESIGNED to destroy the living standard we had built up. This ENTIRE thing was done to us ON PURPOSE. And that is the part that kills me, this WAS ALL PLANNED.

    We were NEVER intended to compete with the third world. We were ALWAYS intended to lose, lose lose. And we have. Only those whose plan in being used right now have gained a fucking thing. And that was ALWAYS the way it was supposed to work. I saw this coming 30 years ago. What the hell is wrong with everyone else?

  • Anonymous

    European?
    Try global.
    With the Fed printing up $600 Billion dollars in It”s second round of quantitative easing and a possible monthly repeat, toilet paper will have more value than our dollar.

    Quantitative easing explained:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTUY16CkS-k

    End the Fed…
    Our currency should belong to our society for society’s benefit.
    The Fed is a parasite that is sucking the blood out of us.

  • http://twitter.com/GrandSupercycle Grand Supercycle

    The uptrend since March 2009 was a bear market rally contained within a much larger downtrend that started in 2000 …

    My long term indicators continue to warn of serious weakness for DOW / S&P500 / Euro and strength for the Dollar.

    http://stockmarket618.wordpress.com/about

  • Anonymous

    Wilson Clark, Paul Erlich, David Brower, Mother Earth News… hell, even Thomas Malthus, explained this long ago. Any damn fool who reads the news sees it coming now. So I’m not sure this is much of an exclusive. I lived off grid from 1980 to 1995 because “I saw it coming.”

    I just hope we’re all wrong, and something will wake us up–though it’s hard to imagine what, beyond an invasion from another planet.

    The saddest part to me is that it really doesn’t have to be this way, if we’d stop killing each other and start working on things that actually matter to humans. It does please me immensely that countless hundreds of thousands, maybe millions, are doing the latter, even though they don’t generally make the headlines.

  • Anonymous

    Not sure of the exact amount, but I think a Chinese worker gets $3 a day and in places like Malasia/Bangladesh it’s 25 cents. And I have also heard China uses slave labor, but not sure where you would go to confirm that. In any case, we cannot compete with those wages unless Congress changes the laws here (like tariffs and tax credits for corporations that outsource. And since Congress is bought by the corporations, don’t expect any changes.

  • D.Crockett

    Im not talking about money $ but we shouldn’t be broke where did all the money go?

  • Anonymous

    Rhetoric of the wealthy:

    We rule you.

    We Fool you.

    We shoot you.

    Rhetoric of the working class.

    We feed all.

    Labor is what feeds the world and produces the wealth. Labor is what holds the floor up on their backs while the rich dances on it. Labor makes the chair, the rich sits idle. The rich sells the chair for profit but the profit isn’t in what the chair is sold for, the profit is in the cheap labor.

    Labor is what is feeding the world. Who picks the beans from the fields? Not the rich. They sit on the porch drinking lemonade. The rich are unproductive.

    The reason the nation collapsed in 1929 and today is the rich didn’t want to get rich being productive they wanted to get rich gambling.

    Investment is a lie. Merge with another company and reduce the work force. One can say investment was in the merging but it didn’t create jobs, rather it created “downsizing”. Every merger resulted in downsizing, not jobs creation.

    Another reason why the word “investment” is a lie is because it can also mean gambling. Buying stocks is called investment but it is actually gambling. A get rich scheme. Creating a bubble ie. housing market, is a know when to hold em, know when to fold em. If you bail out before the bubble bursts you hit pay dirt. But this investment isn’t productive. Crashes such and 1929 and today is never productive. America is hurt by it.

    Monopoly Capitalism is the link-up between high finance, corporations and the government aka the United States. This monopoly in stocks, shares and state loans aka bail outs is exported outside the country into countries like China where cheap labor aka we feed all, is found.

    Hows the War doing?

    In time of war everyone is told to identify with the State. To go against this is treason against the state.

    But is your country in danger? or the ruling class? The ruling class alone owns the State and controls all of society with its own class interest.

    Are the workers defending their own interests, their own state, their own class in the front line trenches?

  • Anonymous

    I love the phrase a corporate coup d’etat. It’s very real. But the main problem with it is that corporations are so stupid and shortsighted they couldn’t organize their way out of a paper bag if they didn’t have tons of money and credit to grease their way along.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bob-Zentrails/100001475536421 Bob Zentrails

    Can someone please explain to me why we would even want to have an empire of any sort?

    It’s very simple: Cut our military to 1/4 it’s present size, withdraw from all foreign bases and get our economy strong again.

    No other option is sustainable. Thanks, George W. for a whole bunch of expensive NOTHING.

  • Anonymous

    Not too long ago our government had a structure that was supportive of the middle class and used equalizing factors such as tariffs to guarantee a stable environment for a domestic manufacturing base. The proceeds of these tariffs was a large portion of the financing of the federal government. The dissolving of these protections for the US population has substantially shifted our wealth to the top 5% on the economic ladder.

  • Anonymous

    “neo-feudalism” is a great term! It’s what neo-liberalism really is.

  • Anonymous

    You are right. It was, in large part, a reaction to the sixties.

  • Anonymous

    It’s about fncking time!

  • Anonymous

    It’s about fncking time!

  • http://carolynbaker.net/2010/12/17/the-u-s-empire-could-collapse-at-any-time-by-chris-hedges/ The U.S. Empire Could Collapse At Any Time, By Chris Hedges « Speaking Truth to Power

    [...] ORIGINAL EXCLUSIVE ARTICLE [...]

  • godistwaddle

    This totally despicable American empire, built largely since I was born (1944) although based on previous genocides (native Americans, Filipinos, Hawaiians, etc.) deservest to be dismantled inside and out.

    “We have become a Nazi monster in the eyes of the world-a nation of bullies and bastards who would rather kill than live peacefully. We are not just Whores for power and oil, but killer Whores with hate and fear in our hearts. We are human scum and that is how history will remember us.” (Hunter S. Thompson)

  • Anonymous

    Blogging bears it’s risks also.
    In this techno-fascist world that we live in where the melding of our identities into the hard drives that track our every utterance leaves a indelible reference that our fascist overlords will one day use to decide which side of Armageddon each of us will land.

  • Anonymous

    Blogging bears it’s risks also.
    In this techno-fascist world that we live in where the melding of our identities into the hard drives that track our every utterance leaves a indelible reference that our fascist overlords will one day use to decide which side of Armageddon each of us will land.

  • Anonymous

    I have been keeping an eye on the mass arrest story, Rawstory.com picked it up at 4:30. Not one single corporate news outlet website has mentioned it yet. Obviously any reporting on dissent is being suppressed. America will be lucky to make it to 2011. My heart is broken, I am afraid for my family, and afraid of my government.

  • Anonymous

    I have been keeping an eye on the mass arrest story, Rawstory.com picked it up at 4:30. Not one single corporate news outlet website has mentioned it yet. Obviously any reporting on dissent is being suppressed. America will be lucky to make it to 2011. My heart is broken, I am afraid for my family, and afraid of my government.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UAYWWQ6PIS523OZNUGILXEGOPU Patty

    Well, this is cheery! But, I long suspected we are the way of Rome. Since Bush got into office, we have headed on a collision course. The ‘Conservative’ rule has basically destroyed our Country. We are turning into a Monarchy. The ‘Haves’ have too much, and the ‘Have nots’ are growing. It reminds me of ‘It’s a Wonderful Life’. There are too many Mr. Potters.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UAYWWQ6PIS523OZNUGILXEGOPU Patty

    Well, this is cheery! But, I long suspected we are the way of Rome. Since Bush got into office, we have headed on a collision course. The ‘Conservative’ rule has basically destroyed our Country. We are turning into a Monarchy. The ‘Haves’ have too much, and the ‘Have nots’ are growing. It reminds me of ‘It’s a Wonderful Life’. There are too many Mr. Potters.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    You’re missing the part where “free trade” is benefiting exactly those it was intended to benefit. And it set it up by giving ignorant, selfish idiots “more junk” to buy cheaper, while telling them that “the more you by the better of a person you are”.

    Consumerism is a disease. Seriously, honestly, truly a disease whereby the consumer is convinced that “buying that one other thing!” will make them “happy”, will fill the void in their broken soul. There’s a reason all the commercials on TV are about happy fun stuff, about being popular, being desired, being accepted, but only if you “buy this thing”. … so making all that cheap crap from China available to us, we fell into their trap and got hooked on buying more cheap crap.

    Happiness is not about the amount of crap you own. But try telling that to Fox Nation or, in fact, 75% of this country. Have you seen the literal stampedes at Wal-Mart and other “made in China” bullshit stores this time of year? People are literally dying to buy more crap they don’t need, hoping it will _finally_ make them (or their dysfunctional kids) happy.

    Nothing will be done because the top 2% are getting richer than ever before, and they control the very groups you call on to “fix it”… Their response? “But we already did, and it’s working very well”.

    We need an entirely different mindset as a species, and we only do that when we become well educated, enlightened, and understand that “money and (alleged) scarcity” are the real problems… and are being used to enslave the masses for the benefit of the few. If you want a freer world where true freedom exists for everyone, you change gears and focus development on self-replicating production systems and more advanced robots. Once humans are not needed for production at all (our current problem is we’re in limbo where we still need substantial human labor, but not enough to keep everyone employed), THEN we can completely realign our world. Until then, we’ll be fighting the few who are holding the planet’s resources hostage and forcing us to live under a dead paradigm.

    http://www.thevenusproject.com and http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com .. For humanity, we’re stuck in a waiting game. Where we need to get to is kind of clear, and it is just as clear that the few benefiting the most won’t let us get there.. for now.

  • Anonymous

    Welcome to Americorp. This is the land where liberals are criminals and the lower class is a parasite. Where, if you don’t watch Fox News, you don’t know the truth; education is socialist; speaking in complete sentences is too confusing; Walmart is your one stop shop for everything; McDonald’s is nutritious; and insurance companies tell you you aren’t eligible for care because you can buy drugs at Walmart and take care of yourself.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NVKAE5H6DBXJ6SO7MAHH4YUL3A CD

    From another post I made:

    In my mind the sooner we realize that we are a second-rate thoroughly broke (and broken) country the better, then we can slash our military budget to be in line with those around the rest of the globe, the Chinese can take over the mantle of world policeman, and we can avoid any more useless and stupid wars. I’m not seeing the benefit of being the world’s sole “super power”. We can then focus our efforts on being the country that we claim we are.

    I have thought many times over the last year that I should (if I had any money to do it) buy a whole bunch of Saudi Riyal (their currency) which is, if I am not mistaken, currently fixed to the dollar, and which will, upon decoupling from the dollar when the dollar’s value plummets and inflation grips the US, skyrocket in value. Backed by the massive oil reserves and revenue of that country, I feel the Riyal would be a sound investment. Now, if I just had some money, or a job, or some hope. I feel really bad for my kids, bringing them into this shit.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    You’ll note that the “heating question” is not about actual resources, but access to them. The few are holding them hostage. We need to free the resources if we’re ever to get out of this mess. http://www.thevenusproject.com gets into it quite well. We need to shed this monetary system because it is only serving the few. We need to change the way we view the world and planetary resources if we’re to service everyone.

  • Anonymous

    I was reading the chapter in “Dismantling the Empire” detailing the wanton destruction and looting of Iraqi antiquities during and after the invasion when he died. The chapter seems allegorical and is all the more heartbreaking for it : The antiquities are really the Iraqi people who were brutalized, murdered, tortured, jailed, blown to bits and burned by the hundreds of thousands, all justified by carefully crafted lies, and for absolutely nothing. So let there be no misunderstanding : The American people more than deserve whatever shit storm Nemesis is sending our way.

  • Anonymous

    Without the collapse of the “Empire of Amerika” any genuine political, economic and moral rebrith is impossible.

  • tommytoons

    I have read Mr. Hedges book, “Death of the Liberal Class”. It is a very frightening glimpse of what has and is occuring in our Country. The Corporations of this country have led us to the tipping point of our society becoming a totalitarian regime, where democracy cannot survive the powers of the corporate world in collusion with our “leaders” of both Parties. The Wars we are fighting are not what we are led to believe by our government not by the general media, its nothing more than an attempt to help make corporations achieve more profits.

  • Anonymous

    You remind me of a village idiot, Patty.

  • Anonymous

    The rest of the world will keep the USA artificially propped up with loans because they are as dependent on keeping the whole mess running as it is as the USA is. Only when our big credit card gets declined by the rest of the world will the floor open up under us.

  • theDetails

    “US empire could collapse at any time..”

    “Could”?

    It already has. We’re just in mass denial.

  • Anonymous

    When did they let you out of the insane asylum?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NVKAE5H6DBXJ6SO7MAHH4YUL3A CD

    though the writing of the US demise has been on the wall for quite some time, I cannot help but think that the strikes on 9-11 were more successful than the planner’s wildest dreams.

  • http://winterpatriot.com NJT

    During the presidency of Reagan, America went from being the greatest creditor nation in the world, to the greatest debtor nation in the world. Where did all the money go? To the coffers of wealthy multi-national corporations, to invest in building up manufacturing in 3rd world countries, to blow up a lot of places and do a lot of nasty research, oh yeah, and to support the lifestyle Americans haven’t been able to quite afford since 1980.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    “Can someone please explain to me why we would even want to have an empire of any sort?”

    Erm, because it requires little kings, and the top 2% like being little kings over the serfs? .. If you mean “we”, the people.. we don’t want an empire, we just want to live our lives. Knowing that is how the little kings abused us into their ability to build an empire. If we want to get back to just “living our lives”, we’re going to have to act outside of what we ‘want to do’, but the little kings know basic psychology and know the average serf will never do that unless things get _really_ bad.. and even then, MOST won’t do shit… not with guns and sonic cannons pointed at them.

    And you know what helps the little kings the MOST? convincing the masses that “it’s OK to suffer now, you’ll be rewarded after you die” is something they can believe in. Religion facilitates this shit more than anything.. “pray for change [but don't act]“.. “god loves you more [even though you're suffering and he won't do shit to stop it]“.. it goes on and on. Sane, rational societies are near impossible to control like we’re being controlled.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah,
    they can watch us easily now. And the freaks can bust any of us as “suspected terrorists.”
    F—’em, there’s risk in everything and we’re all exposed. There must be a purpose, i.e., all this blogging should eventually get us to the streets.
    Otherwise, every word any of us writes is merely cathartic. That’s OK but WTF? Isn’t there more?????

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    which is exactly why so few are willing to put their lives on the line. Would be heroes will be killed one by one, and no one will know about it. It becomes a futile waste of life and a sacrifice no sane person would be willing to make under current circumstances. Too many people glued to the idiot box and being fed lies on a regular basis, not enough truth and honesty being displayed for all to see.

    There’s a reason the 1st Amendment protects the press, and a reason the ruling elite took control of it all.

  • Anonymous

    Actually, Limbaugh said it all when he spewed “FDR is dead. His policies live on, but we’re in the process of doing something about that”. They want to get rid of the very policies that made us such a strong, vibrant country for a while. They are foolish and greedy to the point of national suicide. As long as THEY stay on top, they don’t give a flying rat’s ass how low they drive the 98% of us, THEY ARE ON TOP. And like Aesop said many centuries ago, “it’s better to rule in hell than serve in heaven”. They REFUSE to cooperate, they INSIST on ruling. It doesn’t matter to them that we slide right down into third world status from first. These people are the biggest traitors one could possibly ask for. I think they should all be locked up in their own for profit prisons and left there to rot.

    The 60′s were just a convenient excuse to destroy our society. They don’t believe in democracy, freedom or anything else that we supposedly live for. They believe in ORDER, with THEM at the top and everyone else kissing their asses just to survive. Don’t kid yourself, this is all about MONEY and POWER, nothing else.

  • Anonymous

    No heating (or A/C) required down here in Costa Rica. No army. Plenty of good, cheap healthcare (private and public, take your choice). There’s still plenty of room!

  • Anonymous

    To the top 2%. The rest of us have lost damn near everything so those who have more than they will EVER need can have more.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bob-Witkowski/1041575819 Bob Witkowski

    I believe in the Pendulum Theory of History and Empires. America is resilient, but it will hit a major economic/social/cultural bottom, much like that of a desperate alcoholic. The question is will we as a people have the guts to accept that and really change? Will we take to the streets? Will we face naked ugly truths on many levels about ourselves and our society? Will those of us who’ve bought into the shill of hatred of Liberals; of Big Government; of ‘high’ taxes’ of all the Corporate and Right Wing memes, finally see and accept the utter crap sandwich they’ve gleefully eaten for so long? I don’t know. Facing ugly truths is difficult, but no impossible. It’s happened before. The wild and horrific abuses of the Gilded Age didn’t last forever; Karl Rove’s Eternal GOP Majority faded quickly. The British Empire faded and contracted. Such a contraction of the American Empire and Ego wouldn’t be so bad either, but only if we finally grew up as a society and found our souls again. I don’t think I’ll live to see it. The Pendulum swings very slowly, but I’d like to have faith in my children and their generation. I’m teaching them what I can. Merry Christmas, all…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    “I feel really bad for my kids, bringing them into this shit.”

    That’s why I don’t want kids. I don’t understand how rational people could bring children into this miserable existence under these current circumstances. And it completely befuddles me how someone could have 6, 8, 10 kids.. Destroy the planet, much?

    I have one daughter.. a serendipity I suppose.. and I’m doing my best to show her how to see beyond what’s being shown to her by this dysfunctional society. She does good, mostly, but texting and facebooking and other intentionally fabricated distractions make me wonder where she’ll end up. We have way too much ADOS in this country.. Attention Deficit.. Ooohhh shiny!

  • Anonymous

    Appearing before a US Senate Committee in 194/15 Paul Warburg a German banker working for Kuhn, Loeb and a member of the Federal Reserve Board stated:

    “We (?) shall have World government whether we like it or not, The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent”.

    Within weeks it will be 2011. A span of almost 100 years amd the outlook fpr wpr;d hovernmenyt is rather bleak, Still empires take a long time to end.

  • Anonymous

    Why do they allow YOU internet access inside the one you live in? You REALLY need to shut the fuck up. You haven’t said a single sensible thing since you’ve been here.

  • Anonymous

    Why do they allow YOU internet access inside the one you live in? You REALLY need to shut the fuck up. You haven’t said a single sensible thing since you’ve been here.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    “If we think that Obama is bad, watch the next two years because these corporate forces have turned their back on him,” Hedges warned.

    Yep. The guy’s a stooge, a patsy. He was only used to further an agenda. Amerikans get what Amerikans have earned.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    “If we think that Obama is bad, watch the next two years because these corporate forces have turned their back on him,” Hedges warned.

    Yep. The guy’s a stooge, a patsy. He was only used to further an agenda. Amerikans get what Amerikans have earned.

  • Anonymous

    And you remind me of the biggest pile of horse shit I’ve ever seen. You add NOTHING to the discussion, and you AREN’T nearly as smart of cute as you think you are. Shut the fuck up.

  • Anonymous

    And you remind me of the biggest pile of horse shit I’ve ever seen. You add NOTHING to the discussion, and you AREN’T nearly as smart of cute as you think you are. Shut the fuck up.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    Ahhh.. and the knuckle draggers come out and fling feces on the truth tellers.. you _really_ don’t like knowing the truth or having to see any semblance of reality, do you.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    Ahhh.. and the knuckle draggers come out and fling feces on the truth tellers.. you _really_ don’t like knowing the truth or having to see any semblance of reality, do you.

  • Jaimie11

    the sixties were subverted by CIA operatives – yes, some of the heroes of the sixties!

  • Jaimie11

    the sixties were subverted by CIA operatives – yes, some of the heroes of the sixties!

  • Anonymous

    YES! Why do you think there’s been this mad scramble for wealth in the uppest echelons? They are preparing for the worst, hunkering down with as many assets (gold, etc.) as they can because the US will rot into a nightmare of poor and destitute. The 1% needs to build walls around their gene pools and live in the caves of their mansions and Escalade motorcades with rifles and guns and guards.

  • Anonymous

    YES! Why do you think there’s been this mad scramble for wealth in the uppest echelons? They are preparing for the worst, hunkering down with as many assets (gold, etc.) as they can because the US will rot into a nightmare of poor and destitute. The 1% needs to build walls around their gene pools and live in the caves of their mansions and Escalade motorcades with rifles and guns and guards.

  • Anonymous

    WJM! I’ve never met Patty, but i’m sure she is a nice person…not very smart….but nice! You calling her the biggiest pile of horse shit you’ve ever seen is way out of line!!

    She also has a right to say whatever she wants to on this blog. Telling her to “shut the fuck up” is so cruel and forceful! Are you sure you are really a liberal at all??

  • Anonymous

    WJM! I’ve never met Patty, but i’m sure she is a nice person…not very smart….but nice! You calling her the biggiest pile of horse shit you’ve ever seen is way out of line!!

    She also has a right to say whatever she wants to on this blog. Telling her to “shut the fuck up” is so cruel and forceful! Are you sure you are really a liberal at all??

  • Anonymous

    WJM! I’ve never met Patty, but i’m sure she is a nice person…not very smart….but nice! You calling her the biggiest pile of horse shit you’ve ever seen is way out of line!!

    She also has a right to say whatever she wants to on this blog. Telling her to “shut the fuck up” is so cruel and forceful! Are you sure you are really a liberal at all??

  • Jaimie11

    not the people, but the criminal government, the banksters and the 2%.

  • Jaimie11

    not the people, but the criminal government, the banksters and the 2%.

  • Jaimie11

    not the people, but the criminal government, the banksters and the 2%.

  • Anonymous

    I said this about a month ago that a coup would occur in this country by the corporatist’s. The republicans control this country because they are aligned with the corportist’s and they have the money. This tax cut deal was the final nail in the coffin of America as we know it. Unless people start rising up America it is all over. You can see that our basic needs like education are being gutted to the point that local communities will have to close them. Basic services like Police, Fire and public works are being slashed. When progressives/liberals sat home on election day they didn’t realize that they sealed the fate of this country. Reagan opened the barn door slightly and bush left it fully open to let foxes in to destroy this country. I blame reagan and the right wing media for lying to people to think and vote against their best interests. RIP AMERICA.

  • Anonymous

    I said this about a month ago that a coup would occur in this country by the corporatist’s. The republicans control this country because they are aligned with the corportist’s and they have the money. This tax cut deal was the final nail in the coffin of America as we know it. Unless people start rising up America it is all over. You can see that our basic needs like education are being gutted to the point that local communities will have to close them. Basic services like Police, Fire and public works are being slashed. When progressives/liberals sat home on election day they didn’t realize that they sealed the fate of this country. Reagan opened the barn door slightly and bush left it fully open to let foxes in to destroy this country. I blame reagan and the right wing media for lying to people to think and vote against their best interests. RIP AMERICA.

  • Anonymous

    I said this about a month ago that a coup would occur in this country by the corporatist’s. The republicans control this country because they are aligned with the corportist’s and they have the money. This tax cut deal was the final nail in the coffin of America as we know it. Unless people start rising up America it is all over. You can see that our basic needs like education are being gutted to the point that local communities will have to close them. Basic services like Police, Fire and public works are being slashed. When progressives/liberals sat home on election day they didn’t realize that they sealed the fate of this country. Reagan opened the barn door slightly and bush left it fully open to let foxes in to destroy this country. I blame reagan and the right wing media for lying to people to think and vote against their best interests. RIP AMERICA.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks Joe for being concerned about me, but I can handle WJM and that feces he keeps chucking at me is not even coming close. Does he wash his hands before he eats??

  • Anonymous

    Thanks Joe for being concerned about me, but I can handle WJM and that feces he keeps chucking at me is not even coming close. Does he wash his hands before he eats??

  • Anonymous

    Thanks Joe for being concerned about me, but I can handle WJM and that feces he keeps chucking at me is not even coming close. Does he wash his hands before he eats??

  • Anonymous

    If I raise my kids to be responsible world citizens and set good examples (for example, our kids have never eaten meat, and they understand why and agree that this is important), why is having several of them bad? If the only the ignorant have many children, then it doesn’t look good for the human gene pool, what to speak of the voting results.

  • Anonymous

    If I raise my kids to be responsible world citizens and set good examples (for example, our kids have never eaten meat, and they understand why and agree that this is important), why is having several of them bad? If the only the ignorant have many children, then it doesn’t look good for the human gene pool, what to speak of the voting results.

  • Anonymous

    If I raise my kids to be responsible world citizens and set good examples (for example, our kids have never eaten meat, and they understand why and agree that this is important), why is having several of them bad? If the only the ignorant have many children, then it doesn’t look good for the human gene pool, what to speak of the voting results.

  • Anonymous

    Do you wash your hands before you eat, WJM? A knuckle dragger throwing feces tends to have his hands put a bit of a different taste to his food if he doesn’t wash hands frequently….and completly!!

  • Anonymous

    Do you wash your hands before you eat, WJM? A knuckle dragger throwing feces tends to have his hands put a bit of a different taste to his food if he doesn’t wash hands frequently….and completly!!

  • Anonymous

    Do you wash your hands before you eat, WJM? A knuckle dragger throwing feces tends to have his hands put a bit of a different taste to his food if he doesn’t wash hands frequently….and completly!!

  • Anonymous

    I work with one of those ‘little kings” he has a lot of money from the stock market and treats me like a peasant. He is a cold heartless man. He mocks me when I give leftover food to the homeless. So he throws the food away so I don’t see it . He is of the ilk that the bottom feeders need to die. Survival of the fittest. I hate it but keep my mouth shut because I have to pay my bills. Unfortunately those lucky souls still working probably feel like I do that we are lucky to have a job but inside we are seething. But I take comfort in the knowledge I am better than him in my heart.

  • Anonymous

    I work with one of those ‘little kings” he has a lot of money from the stock market and treats me like a peasant. He is a cold heartless man. He mocks me when I give leftover food to the homeless. So he throws the food away so I don’t see it . He is of the ilk that the bottom feeders need to die. Survival of the fittest. I hate it but keep my mouth shut because I have to pay my bills. Unfortunately those lucky souls still working probably feel like I do that we are lucky to have a job but inside we are seething. But I take comfort in the knowledge I am better than him in my heart.

  • Anonymous

    I work with one of those ‘little kings” he has a lot of money from the stock market and treats me like a peasant. He is a cold heartless man. He mocks me when I give leftover food to the homeless. So he throws the food away so I don’t see it . He is of the ilk that the bottom feeders need to die. Survival of the fittest. I hate it but keep my mouth shut because I have to pay my bills. Unfortunately those lucky souls still working probably feel like I do that we are lucky to have a job but inside we are seething. But I take comfort in the knowledge I am better than him in my heart.

  • http://twitter.com/mycroft61 mycroft61

    When that happens to peons, we file bankruptcy. Don’t celebrate the end of America because if we go down, we take the rest of the world with us and we’re in a better position to survive on what we can produce than almost any other Country in the world. America could live on used consumer goods for a decade before we’d need to replace and 10,000 cottage industries would spring up overnight. It wasn’t that long ago that our Great grandparents opened up this country in ox carts. We can do it again if we have to.

  • http://twitter.com/mycroft61 mycroft61

    When that happens to peons, we file bankruptcy. Don’t celebrate the end of America because if we go down, we take the rest of the world with us and we’re in a better position to survive on what we can produce than almost any other Country in the world. America could live on used consumer goods for a decade before we’d need to replace and 10,000 cottage industries would spring up overnight. It wasn’t that long ago that our Great grandparents opened up this country in ox carts. We can do it again if we have to.

  • http://twitter.com/mycroft61 mycroft61

    When that happens to peons, we file bankruptcy. Don’t celebrate the end of America because if we go down, we take the rest of the world with us and we’re in a better position to survive on what we can produce than almost any other Country in the world. America could live on used consumer goods for a decade before we’d need to replace and 10,000 cottage industries would spring up overnight. It wasn’t that long ago that our Great grandparents opened up this country in ox carts. We can do it again if we have to.

  • Anonymous

    Boy you are one miserable SOB. Go back under your rock snake.

  • Anonymous

    Boy you are one miserable SOB. Go back under your rock snake.

  • Anonymous

    Boy you are one miserable SOB. Go back under your rock snake.

  • Anonymous

    The major part of the corporate coup d’état occurred on September 11, 2001. We MUST have an independent investigation into what happened on that day in order to save our Country.

    INVESTIGATE 9/11 NOW

    It’s time for the whole world to stand up and help Americans save our freedom and constitution.

    And by the way, CORPORATIONS ARE NOT PEOPLE……..AND DO NOT HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS…….like the corporate owned U. S. Supreme Court crazily tries to tell us.

  • Anonymous

    The major part of the corporate coup d’état occurred on September 11, 2001. We MUST have an independent investigation into what happened on that day in order to save our Country.

    INVESTIGATE 9/11 NOW

    It’s time for the whole world to stand up and help Americans save our freedom and constitution.

    And by the way, CORPORATIONS ARE NOT PEOPLE……..AND DO NOT HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS…….like the corporate owned U. S. Supreme Court crazily tries to tell us.

  • Anonymous

    The major part of the corporate coup d’état occurred on September 11, 2001. We MUST have an independent investigation into what happened on that day in order to save our Country.

    INVESTIGATE 9/11 NOW

    It’s time for the whole world to stand up and help Americans save our freedom and constitution.

    And by the way, CORPORATIONS ARE NOT PEOPLE……..AND DO NOT HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS…….like the corporate owned U. S. Supreme Court crazily tries to tell us.

  • Anonymous

    They are keeping the masses entertained with electronic toys, like IPADs, Big screen Tvs etc. That is why our society is so self consumed and indifferent.

  • Anonymous

    They are keeping the masses entertained with electronic toys, like IPADs, Big screen Tvs etc. That is why our society is so self consumed and indifferent.

  • Anonymous

    They are keeping the masses entertained with electronic toys, like IPADs, Big screen Tvs etc. That is why our society is so self consumed and indifferent.

  • Anonymous

    Well Davey. Our money went to the corporations who have built new factories in the two largest populations in the world. There is a reason why we do not have an investigative news system in this country. If we saw what is happening in China and India we would look around and say “Why are we not rebuilding our infastructure” 1980 National Debt less than a Billion. The RayGun revolution was a corporate coupe. We are no better off than the USSR was in 1988.

    The only positive thing I can see about it is that as our united soverign states in America begin to split up, Cali will be able to get all the welfare states off our backs and the ingnorant who live by the propoganda they get from the media and from their Fairy Tales they think are true can hit bottom. All that “I am Blessed” crap goes away real quick when hunger and despair kick in.

    Just like the response from this christian fairy tale believing country when attacked, the downtrodden masses when hungry are not going to turn to their invisible providers for help. They are going into the streets where they will meet our corporate army who will collect them and take them to our corporate prisons where they will be fed the genetically engineered foods, seafood from the gulf and at some point good ol’solient green.

    Merry Christmas Davey. I hope you enjoyed all the years that you did not have a clue as to what was happening around you. start growing your own food and get a bike, we will be the least traveled people in the idustrialized world. welcome to the New World Order, now take a number and go sit down

  • Anonymous

    Well Davey. Our money went to the corporations who have built new factories in the two largest populations in the world. There is a reason why we do not have an investigative news system in this country. If we saw what is happening in China and India we would look around and say “Why are we not rebuilding our infastructure” 1980 National Debt less than a Billion. The RayGun revolution was a corporate coupe. We are no better off than the USSR was in 1988.

    The only positive thing I can see about it is that as our united soverign states in America begin to split up, Cali will be able to get all the welfare states off our backs and the ingnorant who live by the propoganda they get from the media and from their Fairy Tales they think are true can hit bottom. All that “I am Blessed” crap goes away real quick when hunger and despair kick in.

    Just like the response from this christian fairy tale believing country when attacked, the downtrodden masses when hungry are not going to turn to their invisible providers for help. They are going into the streets where they will meet our corporate army who will collect them and take them to our corporate prisons where they will be fed the genetically engineered foods, seafood from the gulf and at some point good ol’solient green.

    Merry Christmas Davey. I hope you enjoyed all the years that you did not have a clue as to what was happening around you. start growing your own food and get a bike, we will be the least traveled people in the idustrialized world. welcome to the New World Order, now take a number and go sit down

  • Anonymous

    Well Davey. Our money went to the corporations who have built new factories in the two largest populations in the world. There is a reason why we do not have an investigative news system in this country. If we saw what is happening in China and India we would look around and say “Why are we not rebuilding our infastructure” 1980 National Debt less than a Billion. The RayGun revolution was a corporate coupe. We are no better off than the USSR was in 1988.

    The only positive thing I can see about it is that as our united soverign states in America begin to split up, Cali will be able to get all the welfare states off our backs and the ingnorant who live by the propoganda they get from the media and from their Fairy Tales they think are true can hit bottom. All that “I am Blessed” crap goes away real quick when hunger and despair kick in.

    Just like the response from this christian fairy tale believing country when attacked, the downtrodden masses when hungry are not going to turn to their invisible providers for help. They are going into the streets where they will meet our corporate army who will collect them and take them to our corporate prisons where they will be fed the genetically engineered foods, seafood from the gulf and at some point good ol’solient green.

    Merry Christmas Davey. I hope you enjoyed all the years that you did not have a clue as to what was happening around you. start growing your own food and get a bike, we will be the least traveled people in the idustrialized world. welcome to the New World Order, now take a number and go sit down

  • Anonymous

    “We’ve undergone a corporate coup d’état in slow motion,” he said. “Our public education system has been gutted. Our infrastructure is corroding and collapsing. Unless we begin to physically resist, they are going to solidify neo-feudalism in this country.”

    It’s time for a general strike. Stock up on food, water, and batteries folks. He’s right, we have to stop corporate hegemony.

    Corporations, especially banks and energy companies, have to be limited in size by law, and must be legally excluded from politics.

    The media have to give equal time to all candidates.

  • Anonymous

    “We’ve undergone a corporate coup d’état in slow motion,” he said. “Our public education system has been gutted. Our infrastructure is corroding and collapsing. Unless we begin to physically resist, they are going to solidify neo-feudalism in this country.”

    It’s time for a general strike. Stock up on food, water, and batteries folks. He’s right, we have to stop corporate hegemony.

    Corporations, especially banks and energy companies, have to be limited in size by law, and must be legally excluded from politics.

    The media have to give equal time to all candidates.

  • Anonymous

    “We’ve undergone a corporate coup d’état in slow motion,” he said. “Our public education system has been gutted. Our infrastructure is corroding and collapsing. Unless we begin to physically resist, they are going to solidify neo-feudalism in this country.”

    It’s time for a general strike. Stock up on food, water, and batteries folks. He’s right, we have to stop corporate hegemony.

    Corporations, especially banks and energy companies, have to be limited in size by law, and must be legally excluded from politics.

    The media have to give equal time to all candidates.

  • Anonymous

    I absolutely agree with you: “Would be heroes will be killed one by one, and no one will know about it.” I have had much anxiety, grief, depression about not doing something – with my body (?) – to make a final stand. And then I think the same sentence you wrote. It doesn’t matter. It wouldn’t matter. It won’t matter. Hell, probably a majority of Amerikans think things are just ducky. And I have friends (former?) who still believe Obusha will save us. The only thing sustaining me now is my immediate family, the earth community, Joe Bageant, Carolyn Baker and the many writers, thinkers, journalists who are fighting the good fight. I am glad I never had children.

  • Anonymous

    I absolutely agree with you: “Would be heroes will be killed one by one, and no one will know about it.” I have had much anxiety, grief, depression about not doing something – with my body (?) – to make a final stand. And then I think the same sentence you wrote. It doesn’t matter. It wouldn’t matter. It won’t matter. Hell, probably a majority of Amerikans think things are just ducky. And I have friends (former?) who still believe Obusha will save us. The only thing sustaining me now is my immediate family, the earth community, Joe Bageant, Carolyn Baker and the many writers, thinkers, journalists who are fighting the good fight. I am glad I never had children.

  • Anonymous

    I absolutely agree with you: “Would be heroes will be killed one by one, and no one will know about it.” I have had much anxiety, grief, depression about not doing something – with my body (?) – to make a final stand. And then I think the same sentence you wrote. It doesn’t matter. It wouldn’t matter. It won’t matter. Hell, probably a majority of Amerikans think things are just ducky. And I have friends (former?) who still believe Obusha will save us. The only thing sustaining me now is my immediate family, the earth community, Joe Bageant, Carolyn Baker and the many writers, thinkers, journalists who are fighting the good fight. I am glad I never had children.

  • Anonymous

    100 years from know. History will record that Reagan was the worst president ever and led to the destruction of this country as an example of social democracy. Whenever I hear anyone saying that this country started becoming inequitable I always hear 30 years ago.

  • Anonymous

    100 years from know. History will record that Reagan was the worst president ever and led to the destruction of this country as an example of social democracy. Whenever I hear anyone saying that this country started becoming inequitable I always hear 30 years ago.

  • Anonymous

    100 years from know. History will record that Reagan was the worst president ever and led to the destruction of this country as an example of social democracy. Whenever I hear anyone saying that this country started becoming inequitable I always hear 30 years ago.

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    “We’ve undergone a corporate coup d’état in slow motion,” he said. “Our public education system has been gutted. Our infrastructure is corroding and collapsing. Unless we begin to physically resist, they are going to solidify neo-feudalism in this country.”

    This guy is confused. You cannot be a part time revolutionary. I will repost what I said previously in regard to these amateur revolutionaries who think getting arrested is fighting or makes a difference.

    “Typically speaking it does not make sense to be a subversive as an American citizen because you already have an ID card, a license, social security number, phone number and all that. They already know everything about you so you can never be an effective subversive.

    The effective subversives will be Mexican gangsters, foreigners who come with false identities, who don’t have friends, who don’t have lives to leave behind, who spend years training in camps for subversives where they learned what they need to know. Professional subversives are not kids coming from their safe suburban neighborhoods who think in their 20s they want to take on the government who had 20+ years to gather information about them, who knows where they live, what they look like, what their name is, has their DNA and finger print and can track them on satellite and through all technical means.

    I hope you understand that if Americans can’t do something basic like start mafias and gangs without being locked up in prison, what makes you think they can fight a revolution under that kind of law enforcement scrutiny, and under that kind of counter intelligence? Look at a prison and you see all the subversives who thought they could fight back and stand up for themselves, they are the casualties of the revolution, and the ones who aren’t in prison are dead.

    I guess because most of them are poor and black or brown, nobody recognizes the history of the whole situation. When white teenagers start trying to be subversives they’ll find themselves facing the same shit and of course they wont know how to deal with it.”

    “Revolutions aren’t led from the bottom, they are lead from the top. Until the establishment decides it’s time for a revolution then you’ll just have a bunch of subversives who will be locked up and killed off.

    If these subversives had any power we’d see some positive effects from their actions. The fact that we don’t means they are loud and powerless. Siding with them will just speed up your demise unless there is a truly organized resistance and in that case it wouldn’t be people online, it wouldn’t be hackers, it would be people with the power to kill, willing to die, and highly educated, rich, etc. Essentially it would be the intelligence operatives trained to lead revolutions, and the rich benefactors.

    I’m not an intelligence operative. I’m not a revolutionary. I’ve never shot a gun, I don’t know how to make IED’s, I would just get killed. So would the majority of you. Let the professional mercenaries and soldiers handle it and stay out of it.”

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    “We’ve undergone a corporate coup d’état in slow motion,” he said. “Our public education system has been gutted. Our infrastructure is corroding and collapsing. Unless we begin to physically resist, they are going to solidify neo-feudalism in this country.”

    This guy is confused. You cannot be a part time revolutionary. I will repost what I said previously in regard to these amateur revolutionaries who think getting arrested is fighting or makes a difference.

    “Typically speaking it does not make sense to be a subversive as an American citizen because you already have an ID card, a license, social security number, phone number and all that. They already know everything about you so you can never be an effective subversive.

    The effective subversives will be Mexican gangsters, foreigners who come with false identities, who don’t have friends, who don’t have lives to leave behind, who spend years training in camps for subversives where they learned what they need to know. Professional subversives are not kids coming from their safe suburban neighborhoods who think in their 20s they want to take on the government who had 20+ years to gather information about them, who knows where they live, what they look like, what their name is, has their DNA and finger print and can track them on satellite and through all technical means.

    I hope you understand that if Americans can’t do something basic like start mafias and gangs without being locked up in prison, what makes you think they can fight a revolution under that kind of law enforcement scrutiny, and under that kind of counter intelligence? Look at a prison and you see all the subversives who thought they could fight back and stand up for themselves, they are the casualties of the revolution, and the ones who aren’t in prison are dead.

    I guess because most of them are poor and black or brown, nobody recognizes the history of the whole situation. When white teenagers start trying to be subversives they’ll find themselves facing the same shit and of course they wont know how to deal with it.”

    “Revolutions aren’t led from the bottom, they are lead from the top. Until the establishment decides it’s time for a revolution then you’ll just have a bunch of subversives who will be locked up and killed off.

    If these subversives had any power we’d see some positive effects from their actions. The fact that we don’t means they are loud and powerless. Siding with them will just speed up your demise unless there is a truly organized resistance and in that case it wouldn’t be people online, it wouldn’t be hackers, it would be people with the power to kill, willing to die, and highly educated, rich, etc. Essentially it would be the intelligence operatives trained to lead revolutions, and the rich benefactors.

    I’m not an intelligence operative. I’m not a revolutionary. I’ve never shot a gun, I don’t know how to make IED’s, I would just get killed. So would the majority of you. Let the professional mercenaries and soldiers handle it and stay out of it.”

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    “We’ve undergone a corporate coup d’état in slow motion,” he said. “Our public education system has been gutted. Our infrastructure is corroding and collapsing. Unless we begin to physically resist, they are going to solidify neo-feudalism in this country.”

    This guy is confused. You cannot be a part time revolutionary. I will repost what I said previously in regard to these amateur revolutionaries who think getting arrested is fighting or makes a difference.

    “Typically speaking it does not make sense to be a subversive as an American citizen because you already have an ID card, a license, social security number, phone number and all that. They already know everything about you so you can never be an effective subversive.

    The effective subversives will be Mexican gangsters, foreigners who come with false identities, who don’t have friends, who don’t have lives to leave behind, who spend years training in camps for subversives where they learned what they need to know. Professional subversives are not kids coming from their safe suburban neighborhoods who think in their 20s they want to take on the government who had 20+ years to gather information about them, who knows where they live, what they look like, what their name is, has their DNA and finger print and can track them on satellite and through all technical means.

    I hope you understand that if Americans can’t do something basic like start mafias and gangs without being locked up in prison, what makes you think they can fight a revolution under that kind of law enforcement scrutiny, and under that kind of counter intelligence? Look at a prison and you see all the subversives who thought they could fight back and stand up for themselves, they are the casualties of the revolution, and the ones who aren’t in prison are dead.

    I guess because most of them are poor and black or brown, nobody recognizes the history of the whole situation. When white teenagers start trying to be subversives they’ll find themselves facing the same shit and of course they wont know how to deal with it.”

    “Revolutions aren’t led from the bottom, they are lead from the top. Until the establishment decides it’s time for a revolution then you’ll just have a bunch of subversives who will be locked up and killed off.

    If these subversives had any power we’d see some positive effects from their actions. The fact that we don’t means they are loud and powerless. Siding with them will just speed up your demise unless there is a truly organized resistance and in that case it wouldn’t be people online, it wouldn’t be hackers, it would be people with the power to kill, willing to die, and highly educated, rich, etc. Essentially it would be the intelligence operatives trained to lead revolutions, and the rich benefactors.

    I’m not an intelligence operative. I’m not a revolutionary. I’ve never shot a gun, I don’t know how to make IED’s, I would just get killed. So would the majority of you. Let the professional mercenaries and soldiers handle it and stay out of it.”

  • Anonymous

    That’s right, we are in the latter stages of a concerted effort to destroy the last vestiges of the middle and working class and of democracy in the U.S. This is more than mere greed or the irrational exuberance of the speculative class. This is about establishing a 21st century neo-feudalism where the vast majority of people become not serfs bound to the land (as in medieval feudalism), but are instead bound by debt that they labor to service for their entire lives. We have devolved from citizens, to consumers (fueled by debt), and finally into debt slaves.

    This interview with Michale Hudson succinctly describes this process:

    http://michael-hudson.com/2010/12/deficit-hawks-one-two-punch/

    Michale Hudson is one of the few economists who consistently identifies the realities surrounding the gutting of the American economy by the parasitical financial oligarchs. Unlike most economists, he is an economic historian and brings an insight and perspective that few others seem able to do.

  • Anonymous

    That’s right, we are in the latter stages of a concerted effort to destroy the last vestiges of the middle and working class and of democracy in the U.S. This is more than mere greed or the irrational exuberance of the speculative class. This is about establishing a 21st century neo-feudalism where the vast majority of people become not serfs bound to the land (as in medieval feudalism), but are instead bound by debt that they labor to service for their entire lives. We have devolved from citizens, to consumers (fueled by debt), and finally into debt slaves.

    This interview with Michale Hudson succinctly describes this process:

    http://michael-hudson.com/2010/12/deficit-hawks-one-two-punch/

    Michale Hudson is one of the few economists who consistently identifies the realities surrounding the gutting of the American economy by the parasitical financial oligarchs. Unlike most economists, he is an economic historian and brings an insight and perspective that few others seem able to do.

  • Anonymous

    That’s right, we are in the latter stages of a concerted effort to destroy the last vestiges of the middle and working class and of democracy in the U.S. This is more than mere greed or the irrational exuberance of the speculative class. This is about establishing a 21st century neo-feudalism where the vast majority of people become not serfs bound to the land (as in medieval feudalism), but are instead bound by debt that they labor to service for their entire lives. We have devolved from citizens, to consumers (fueled by debt), and finally into debt slaves.

    This interview with Michale Hudson succinctly describes this process:

    http://michael-hudson.com/2010/12/deficit-hawks-one-two-punch/

    Michale Hudson is one of the few economists who consistently identifies the realities surrounding the gutting of the American economy by the parasitical financial oligarchs. Unlike most economists, he is an economic historian and brings an insight and perspective that few others seem able to do.

  • Anonymous

    The collapse of America will be bad for us, but it could be a decidedly good thing for the rest of the world.

    Kind of like the biggest bully on the block coming down with
    mononucleosis. Or cancer.

  • Anonymous

    The collapse of America will be bad for us, but it could be a decidedly good thing for the rest of the world.

    Kind of like the biggest bully on the block coming down with
    mononucleosis. Or cancer.

  • Anonymous

    The collapse of America will be bad for us, but it could be a decidedly good thing for the rest of the world.

    Kind of like the biggest bully on the block coming down with
    mononucleosis. Or cancer.

  • Anonymous

    ◄$$$ THE WIKILEAKS SCANDAL COMES FROM INSIDE THE USMILITARY WITH PASSWORD CLEARANCE AND THE USBANKS FROM ABSCONDED DISK DRIVES. THE BANK SOURCE EXTENDS FROM A FAILED ICELAND BANK AND PROSECUTION WITH THE KAUPTHING BANKER, WHO HAS TURNED STATE EVIDENCE. A PLOT TO RESTORE THE USGOVT FROM INSIDE SOURCES IS UNDERWAY. A BATTLE BETWEEN GOOD & EVIL IS APACE IN A GRAND BLOWBACK AFTER 911 AND THE $TRILLION MORTGAGE BOND FRAUD. A SOURCE WITH GREAT TIES TO BANKS, MILITARIES, AND SECURITY SYSTEMS PROVIDED SOME INSIGHT. $$$

    “The Anglo American fraud and genocide cartel will be exposed. WikiLeaks was just a teaser. The Boyz took the bait, exposed their reaction profile, and aligned the forces, leaving it vulnerable. This is not directed against the American people but against the syndicate which was allowed to highjack the United States government. The real terrorists are deep within your own structures. A flash event will be generated for use that will create a political and economic vortex. The 21st American Revolution just started. It is all inter-connected. The Asians are the ones who will push the US over the cliff after the bankers themselves stepped to the edge by blowing themselves up. The WikiLeaks information comes from several hard drives from DeutscheBank and Goldman Sachs. The hard drives where handed over by a Goldman midlevel banker whom the European authorities had in custody in reference to the Euro 350 billion fraud Goldman Sachs engineered for the Greek Govt’s Treasury Department. The evidence that is piling up all over the place is incomprehensible. The big break was a top Kaupthing Bank executive from Iceland & Luxembourg, who led the investigators to the right back doors to lift data out of the systems. They found that the mega-banks are operating a shadow world with its very own bookkeeping and back-office set up, all totally off-balance sheet and out of sight and reach of the regulators. Those two systems, the overt and covert, have disconnected and are ripping the system to shreds. It is basically a mega-Madoff scheme that they are running, only a thousand times bigger. Madoff’s game was a satellite office that blew up when it was not properly supervised. The blowback was and is horrific since the entire system is now cratering.
    The WikiLeaks site is being fed the information obtained from deep inside the system. There are people inside who very well understand that the system can only be brought down from the inside out. Witness how they hit Hillary Clinton by exposing her spy instructions to the US diplomats worldwide. In the latest Wall Street Pentagon Papers, the people were told that data was allegedly released by the babyface soldier, of rank private.. The papers reveal a $12 trillion unauthorized grant to global bankers as the hidden part of the TARP Fund used for buying up global assets after the price ambush following the Lehman Brothers failure. The flow of data comes from the top, not the bottom.The data grab required access with three passwords to enter the archives, something only known to 4-star generals at the Pentagon. The access was not through hacking but through opendoor access with proper credentials. Beware of a military Coup d’Etat going on in America and no one gets it. Next, WikiLeaks will next go global and viral in pure decentralized fashion. Thousands of WikiLeaks will be set up in lightning speed that will be fed from a central invisible source, which then publishes simultaneously all over the world. Their counter-attack retaliation against those who assisted on the WikiLeak crackdown is impressive [credit card companies]. Things don’t just happen; they are allowed to happen. Problem-Reaction-Solution.”
    ◄$$$ THE USFED AUTHORIZED APPARENT GIFT GRANTS TOTALING OVER $12 TRILLION TO BUY UP AMBUSHED ASSETS FOLLOWING THE LEHMAN BROTHERS COLLAPSE. THE EXPANDED SUPER-T.A.R.P. FUND HAD AN ASSOCIATED CREDIT LINE 17 TIMES LARGER THAN THE VISIBLE T.A.R.P. FUND ITSELF. THE LIST OF GRANT RECIPIENTS IS AS LONG AS YOUR ARM. THE EXPOSURE IS BEING CALLED THE WALL STREET PENTAGON PAPERS, A STORY STILL NOT ON THE MAINSTREAM NEWS NETWORKS. $$$

    Willie

  • Anonymous

    ◄$$$ THE WIKILEAKS SCANDAL COMES FROM INSIDE THE USMILITARY WITH PASSWORD CLEARANCE AND THE USBANKS FROM ABSCONDED DISK DRIVES. THE BANK SOURCE EXTENDS FROM A FAILED ICELAND BANK AND PROSECUTION WITH THE KAUPTHING BANKER, WHO HAS TURNED STATE EVIDENCE. A PLOT TO RESTORE THE USGOVT FROM INSIDE SOURCES IS UNDERWAY. A BATTLE BETWEEN GOOD & EVIL IS APACE IN A GRAND BLOWBACK AFTER 911 AND THE $TRILLION MORTGAGE BOND FRAUD. A SOURCE WITH GREAT TIES TO BANKS, MILITARIES, AND SECURITY SYSTEMS PROVIDED SOME INSIGHT. $$$

    “The Anglo American fraud and genocide cartel will be exposed. WikiLeaks was just a teaser. The Boyz took the bait, exposed their reaction profile, and aligned the forces, leaving it vulnerable. This is not directed against the American people but against the syndicate which was allowed to highjack the United States government. The real terrorists are deep within your own structures. A flash event will be generated for use that will create a political and economic vortex. The 21st American Revolution just started. It is all inter-connected. The Asians are the ones who will push the US over the cliff after the bankers themselves stepped to the edge by blowing themselves up. The WikiLeaks information comes from several hard drives from DeutscheBank and Goldman Sachs. The hard drives where handed over by a Goldman midlevel banker whom the European authorities had in custody in reference to the Euro 350 billion fraud Goldman Sachs engineered for the Greek Govt’s Treasury Department. The evidence that is piling up all over the place is incomprehensible. The big break was a top Kaupthing Bank executive from Iceland & Luxembourg, who led the investigators to the right back doors to lift data out of the systems. They found that the mega-banks are operating a shadow world with its very own bookkeeping and back-office set up, all totally off-balance sheet and out of sight and reach of the regulators. Those two systems, the overt and covert, have disconnected and are ripping the system to shreds. It is basically a mega-Madoff scheme that they are running, only a thousand times bigger. Madoff’s game was a satellite office that blew up when it was not properly supervised. The blowback was and is horrific since the entire system is now cratering.
    The WikiLeaks site is being fed the information obtained from deep inside the system. There are people inside who very well understand that the system can only be brought down from the inside out. Witness how they hit Hillary Clinton by exposing her spy instructions to the US diplomats worldwide. In the latest Wall Street Pentagon Papers, the people were told that data was allegedly released by the babyface soldier, of rank private.. The papers reveal a $12 trillion unauthorized grant to global bankers as the hidden part of the TARP Fund used for buying up global assets after the price ambush following the Lehman Brothers failure. The flow of data comes from the top, not the bottom.The data grab required access with three passwords to enter the archives, something only known to 4-star generals at the Pentagon. The access was not through hacking but through opendoor access with proper credentials. Beware of a military Coup d’Etat going on in America and no one gets it. Next, WikiLeaks will next go global and viral in pure decentralized fashion. Thousands of WikiLeaks will be set up in lightning speed that will be fed from a central invisible source, which then publishes simultaneously all over the world. Their counter-attack retaliation against those who assisted on the WikiLeak crackdown is impressive [credit card companies]. Things don’t just happen; they are allowed to happen. Problem-Reaction-Solution.”
    ◄$$$ THE USFED AUTHORIZED APPARENT GIFT GRANTS TOTALING OVER $12 TRILLION TO BUY UP AMBUSHED ASSETS FOLLOWING THE LEHMAN BROTHERS COLLAPSE. THE EXPANDED SUPER-T.A.R.P. FUND HAD AN ASSOCIATED CREDIT LINE 17 TIMES LARGER THAN THE VISIBLE T.A.R.P. FUND ITSELF. THE LIST OF GRANT RECIPIENTS IS AS LONG AS YOUR ARM. THE EXPOSURE IS BEING CALLED THE WALL STREET PENTAGON PAPERS, A STORY STILL NOT ON THE MAINSTREAM NEWS NETWORKS. $$$

    Willie

  • Anonymous

    ◄$$$ THE WIKILEAKS SCANDAL COMES FROM INSIDE THE USMILITARY WITH PASSWORD CLEARANCE AND THE USBANKS FROM ABSCONDED DISK DRIVES. THE BANK SOURCE EXTENDS FROM A FAILED ICELAND BANK AND PROSECUTION WITH THE KAUPTHING BANKER, WHO HAS TURNED STATE EVIDENCE. A PLOT TO RESTORE THE USGOVT FROM INSIDE SOURCES IS UNDERWAY. A BATTLE BETWEEN GOOD & EVIL IS APACE IN A GRAND BLOWBACK AFTER 911 AND THE $TRILLION MORTGAGE BOND FRAUD. A SOURCE WITH GREAT TIES TO BANKS, MILITARIES, AND SECURITY SYSTEMS PROVIDED SOME INSIGHT. $$$

    “The Anglo American fraud and genocide cartel will be exposed. WikiLeaks was just a teaser. The Boyz took the bait, exposed their reaction profile, and aligned the forces, leaving it vulnerable. This is not directed against the American people but against the syndicate which was allowed to highjack the United States government. The real terrorists are deep within your own structures. A flash event will be generated for use that will create a political and economic vortex. The 21st American Revolution just started. It is all inter-connected. The Asians are the ones who will push the US over the cliff after the bankers themselves stepped to the edge by blowing themselves up. The WikiLeaks information comes from several hard drives from DeutscheBank and Goldman Sachs. The hard drives where handed over by a Goldman midlevel banker whom the European authorities had in custody in reference to the Euro 350 billion fraud Goldman Sachs engineered for the Greek Govt’s Treasury Department. The evidence that is piling up all over the place is incomprehensible. The big break was a top Kaupthing Bank executive from Iceland & Luxembourg, who led the investigators to the right back doors to lift data out of the systems. They found that the mega-banks are operating a shadow world with its very own bookkeeping and back-office set up, all totally off-balance sheet and out of sight and reach of the regulators. Those two systems, the overt and covert, have disconnected and are ripping the system to shreds. It is basically a mega-Madoff scheme that they are running, only a thousand times bigger. Madoff’s game was a satellite office that blew up when it was not properly supervised. The blowback was and is horrific since the entire system is now cratering.
    The WikiLeaks site is being fed the information obtained from deep inside the system. There are people inside who very well understand that the system can only be brought down from the inside out. Witness how they hit Hillary Clinton by exposing her spy instructions to the US diplomats worldwide. In the latest Wall Street Pentagon Papers, the people were told that data was allegedly released by the babyface soldier, of rank private.. The papers reveal a $12 trillion unauthorized grant to global bankers as the hidden part of the TARP Fund used for buying up global assets after the price ambush following the Lehman Brothers failure. The flow of data comes from the top, not the bottom.The data grab required access with three passwords to enter the archives, something only known to 4-star generals at the Pentagon. The access was not through hacking but through opendoor access with proper credentials. Beware of a military Coup d’Etat going on in America and no one gets it. Next, WikiLeaks will next go global and viral in pure decentralized fashion. Thousands of WikiLeaks will be set up in lightning speed that will be fed from a central invisible source, which then publishes simultaneously all over the world. Their counter-attack retaliation against those who assisted on the WikiLeak crackdown is impressive [credit card companies]. Things don’t just happen; they are allowed to happen. Problem-Reaction-Solution.”
    ◄$$$ THE USFED AUTHORIZED APPARENT GIFT GRANTS TOTALING OVER $12 TRILLION TO BUY UP AMBUSHED ASSETS FOLLOWING THE LEHMAN BROTHERS COLLAPSE. THE EXPANDED SUPER-T.A.R.P. FUND HAD AN ASSOCIATED CREDIT LINE 17 TIMES LARGER THAN THE VISIBLE T.A.R.P. FUND ITSELF. THE LIST OF GRANT RECIPIENTS IS AS LONG AS YOUR ARM. THE EXPOSURE IS BEING CALLED THE WALL STREET PENTAGON PAPERS, A STORY STILL NOT ON THE MAINSTREAM NEWS NETWORKS. $$$

    Willie

  • dk504

    hate to burst your bubble sparky, but the STFU was for you… lol. If you’ve missed ALL the signs that we are slipping down the toilet, then I ask you to look with better eyes.

  • dk504

    hate to burst your bubble sparky, but the STFU was for you… lol. If you’ve missed ALL the signs that we are slipping down the toilet, then I ask you to look with better eyes.

  • dk504

    hate to burst your bubble sparky, but the STFU was for you… lol. If you’ve missed ALL the signs that we are slipping down the toilet, then I ask you to look with better eyes.

  • http://twitter.com/LoryAndAnEaglet julia hart

    all i can say is i hope he’s wrong. it’s certainly not looking very good though.

  • http://twitter.com/LoryAndAnEaglet julia hart

    all i can say is i hope he’s wrong. it’s certainly not looking very good though.

  • http://twitter.com/LoryAndAnEaglet julia hart

    all i can say is i hope he’s wrong. it’s certainly not looking very good though.

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    We agree on not having kids. This is a complete mess we live in. A bowl of shit.

    That being said, I don’t take seriously people who know nothing about the life of real subversives talking about how they want to stand up to government. This guy should go live in Mexico and discuss with the Mexican drug cartels how to go against government.

    If he’s afraid to sit with these people or if he cannot speak spanish and several other languages he will be completely useless as a subversive. He is a cheerleader.

    Real subversives wont speak just english. Real subversives won’t be afraid to kill and have been trained to kill. Real subversives don’t have families, don’t have names, don’t have identities and I mean it in the literal sense. Real subversives don’t love, don’t fear, and most importantly real subversives don’t work day jobs where they pay taxes to the government they claim to be fighting against.

    None of the vocal liberal types are real subversives because if they were they wouldn’t be talking to the media. Do you think gang members are going to talk to the media about their plans for revolution? Do you see whats left of the italian mafia doing that? or the triads? or al qaeda? They are paramilitary forces and they have their own intelligence and their own army.

    The problem with dealing with “the people” and “revolution” is none of us got to sit down with the Godfathers of the various mafias to discuss who will get what when they take power. So unless you are seated at the table of the underworld elite, you’ll be a peasant after the revolution just as you were before.

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    We agree on not having kids. This is a complete mess we live in. A bowl of shit.

    That being said, I don’t take seriously people who know nothing about the life of real subversives talking about how they want to stand up to government. This guy should go live in Mexico and discuss with the Mexican drug cartels how to go against government.

    If he’s afraid to sit with these people or if he cannot speak spanish and several other languages he will be completely useless as a subversive. He is a cheerleader.

    Real subversives wont speak just english. Real subversives won’t be afraid to kill and have been trained to kill. Real subversives don’t have families, don’t have names, don’t have identities and I mean it in the literal sense. Real subversives don’t love, don’t fear, and most importantly real subversives don’t work day jobs where they pay taxes to the government they claim to be fighting against.

    None of the vocal liberal types are real subversives because if they were they wouldn’t be talking to the media. Do you think gang members are going to talk to the media about their plans for revolution? Do you see whats left of the italian mafia doing that? or the triads? or al qaeda? They are paramilitary forces and they have their own intelligence and their own army.

    The problem with dealing with “the people” and “revolution” is none of us got to sit down with the Godfathers of the various mafias to discuss who will get what when they take power. So unless you are seated at the table of the underworld elite, you’ll be a peasant after the revolution just as you were before.

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    We agree on not having kids. This is a complete mess we live in. A bowl of shit.

    That being said, I don’t take seriously people who know nothing about the life of real subversives talking about how they want to stand up to government. This guy should go live in Mexico and discuss with the Mexican drug cartels how to go against government.

    If he’s afraid to sit with these people or if he cannot speak spanish and several other languages he will be completely useless as a subversive. He is a cheerleader.

    Real subversives wont speak just english. Real subversives won’t be afraid to kill and have been trained to kill. Real subversives don’t have families, don’t have names, don’t have identities and I mean it in the literal sense. Real subversives don’t love, don’t fear, and most importantly real subversives don’t work day jobs where they pay taxes to the government they claim to be fighting against.

    None of the vocal liberal types are real subversives because if they were they wouldn’t be talking to the media. Do you think gang members are going to talk to the media about their plans for revolution? Do you see whats left of the italian mafia doing that? or the triads? or al qaeda? They are paramilitary forces and they have their own intelligence and their own army.

    The problem with dealing with “the people” and “revolution” is none of us got to sit down with the Godfathers of the various mafias to discuss who will get what when they take power. So unless you are seated at the table of the underworld elite, you’ll be a peasant after the revolution just as you were before.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/D3I7MK4Y4S76TWXD4F2NV2B6L4 Brian

    rlau290541, your comprhension is that of shit, while you are probably the brightest in your family, that does not make you a joy to anyone else.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/D3I7MK4Y4S76TWXD4F2NV2B6L4 Brian

    rlau290541, your comprhension is that of shit, while you are probably the brightest in your family, that does not make you a joy to anyone else.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/D3I7MK4Y4S76TWXD4F2NV2B6L4 Brian

    rlau290541, your comprhension is that of shit, while you are probably the brightest in your family, that does not make you a joy to anyone else.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/D3I7MK4Y4S76TWXD4F2NV2B6L4 Brian

    rlau290541, your comprhension is that of shit, while you are probably the brightest in your family, that does not make you a joy to anyone else.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/D3I7MK4Y4S76TWXD4F2NV2B6L4 Brian

    And in his heart, he knows you are better than him also. He throws the food away because he resents you proving it.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/D3I7MK4Y4S76TWXD4F2NV2B6L4 Brian

    And in his heart, he knows you are better than him also. He throws the food away because he resents you proving it.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/D3I7MK4Y4S76TWXD4F2NV2B6L4 Brian

    And in his heart, he knows you are better than him also. He throws the food away because he resents you proving it.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/D3I7MK4Y4S76TWXD4F2NV2B6L4 Brian

    And in his heart, he knows you are better than him also. He throws the food away because he resents you proving it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZF7YJAO4XTY6HPLDCVK7L5KGUY JT

    Nature will prevail and the species of Homo-Ignoramus will slide into extinction.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZF7YJAO4XTY6HPLDCVK7L5KGUY JT

    Nature will prevail and the species of Homo-Ignoramus will slide into extinction.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZF7YJAO4XTY6HPLDCVK7L5KGUY JT

    Nature will prevail and the species of Homo-Ignoramus will slide into extinction.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZF7YJAO4XTY6HPLDCVK7L5KGUY JT

    Nature will prevail and the species of Homo-Ignoramus will slide into extinction.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/D3I7MK4Y4S76TWXD4F2NV2B6L4 Brian

    Yet you keep feeding yourself shit, and trying to spoon it on others, you like the taste. That’s you. Not others. Project much?

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/D3I7MK4Y4S76TWXD4F2NV2B6L4 Brian

    Yet you keep feeding yourself shit, and trying to spoon it on others, you like the taste. That’s you. Not others. Project much?

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/D3I7MK4Y4S76TWXD4F2NV2B6L4 Brian

    Yet you keep feeding yourself shit, and trying to spoon it on others, you like the taste. That’s you. Not others. Project much?

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/D3I7MK4Y4S76TWXD4F2NV2B6L4 Brian

    Yet you keep feeding yourself shit, and trying to spoon it on others, you like the taste. That’s you. Not others. Project much?

  • Anonymous

    I apologize. I’m not attacking the writer; I’m attacking the editor, who proudly put his name on this article.

    I let 99.9999% of the errors I see slide, but I occasionally have to let off a little grammar- and spelling-related steam or I’ll end up in a loony bin. Now that it’s out of my system, I feel a little better (except I always feel guilty afterward).

  • Anonymous

    I apologize. I’m not attacking the writer; I’m attacking the editor, who proudly put his name on this article.

    I let 99.9999% of the errors I see slide, but I occasionally have to let off a little grammar- and spelling-related steam or I’ll end up in a loony bin. Now that it’s out of my system, I feel a little better (except I always feel guilty afterward).

  • Anonymous

    I apologize. I’m not attacking the writer; I’m attacking the editor, who proudly put his name on this article.

    I let 99.9999% of the errors I see slide, but I occasionally have to let off a little grammar- and spelling-related steam or I’ll end up in a loony bin. Now that it’s out of my system, I feel a little better (except I always feel guilty afterward).

  • Anonymous

    I apologize. I’m not attacking the writer; I’m attacking the editor, who proudly put his name on this article.

    I let 99.9999% of the errors I see slide, but I occasionally have to let off a little grammar- and spelling-related steam or I’ll end up in a loony bin. Now that it’s out of my system, I feel a little better (except I always feel guilty afterward).

  • Don Corleone

    Well, that was certainly optimistic.

  • Don Corleone

    Well, that was certainly optimistic.

  • Don Corleone

    Well, that was certainly optimistic.

  • Don Corleone

    Well, that was certainly optimistic.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SG3UMGTR653T733YHMWNMGKQCE Skyguy

    Just yesterday at the local market a guy was arrested for making “terrorist threats”. He was angry at being fired and said he was going to “do something scary”.

    The line between pissed off citizen and terrorist is actually quite small these days. No accident if you ask me………….. Example: just how long has FOX been running the TV show Cops? That show was designed to showcase Americans rights being tossed out the door. It was designed so that Americans would get used to our Fascist State.

    Then again maybe it is not a conspiracy; Put enough like minded people in power and they don’t even have to talk about their total disdain for the Constitution.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SG3UMGTR653T733YHMWNMGKQCE Skyguy

    Just yesterday at the local market a guy was arrested for making “terrorist threats”. He was angry at being fired and said he was going to “do something scary”.

    The line between pissed off citizen and terrorist is actually quite small these days. No accident if you ask me………….. Example: just how long has FOX been running the TV show Cops? That show was designed to showcase Americans rights being tossed out the door. It was designed so that Americans would get used to our Fascist State.

    Then again maybe it is not a conspiracy; Put enough like minded people in power and they don’t even have to talk about their total disdain for the Constitution.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SG3UMGTR653T733YHMWNMGKQCE Skyguy

    Just yesterday at the local market a guy was arrested for making “terrorist threats”. He was angry at being fired and said he was going to “do something scary”.

    The line between pissed off citizen and terrorist is actually quite small these days. No accident if you ask me………….. Example: just how long has FOX been running the TV show Cops? That show was designed to showcase Americans rights being tossed out the door. It was designed so that Americans would get used to our Fascist State.

    Then again maybe it is not a conspiracy; Put enough like minded people in power and they don’t even have to talk about their total disdain for the Constitution.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SG3UMGTR653T733YHMWNMGKQCE Skyguy

    Just yesterday at the local market a guy was arrested for making “terrorist threats”. He was angry at being fired and said he was going to “do something scary”.

    The line between pissed off citizen and terrorist is actually quite small these days. No accident if you ask me………….. Example: just how long has FOX been running the TV show Cops? That show was designed to showcase Americans rights being tossed out the door. It was designed so that Americans would get used to our Fascist State.

    Then again maybe it is not a conspiracy; Put enough like minded people in power and they don’t even have to talk about their total disdain for the Constitution.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SG3UMGTR653T733YHMWNMGKQCE Skyguy

    Just yesterday at the local market a guy was arrested for making “terrorist threats”. He was angry at being fired and said he was going to “do something scary”.

    The line between pissed off citizen and terrorist is actually quite small these days. No accident if you ask me………….. Example: just how long has FOX been running the TV show Cops? That show was designed to showcase Americans rights being tossed out the door. It was designed so that Americans would get used to our Fascist State.

    Then again maybe it is not a conspiracy; Put enough like minded people in power and they don’t even have to talk about their total disdain for the Constitution.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SG3UMGTR653T733YHMWNMGKQCE Skyguy

    Live with the grammer errors for shits sake. It is not the grammer that is important it is the message.

    If you want to flame someone go to Craigs List.

  • Anonymous

    ODOAFII,

    You are right on the money with your observation of interdependence. I laugh every time I see some writer or talking head try to pose China as a threat to America. They have no understanding of the economic relationship between the two countries when they say those things. China is more dependent upon us for their survival that we are on them for our credit line.

    Over 30% of their total GDP is shipped to the US and over 40% of their financial assets are dollar denominated. If they got into a trade war with the US their economy would collapse. If they tried to dump US bonds not only would they be cutting their own fiscal nose off to spite their face the resulting drop in the value of the dollar would reduce exports to the US leading to a economic meltdown in THEIR country.

    Ya see my friends China is not OUR economic drug dealer they are our BUYER. If they tried to stop selling their goods to our economic markets the withdrawal symptoms would be severe and in a country on the edge of drowning in its own sewage and currently choking on its air the only thing keeping the society from erupting in mass protest is their economic expansion and the lure of consumerism. If that expansion has even the slightest hiccup and you WILL have a 2nd cultural revolution!
    As for the demise of America…well that started when Bill Casey flew to Paris to make the deal with the Iranians to hold the hostages until after the 1980 election. When and how it ends is as Mr. Hedges says is difficult to time. I can only hope that we split into three or four countries; East Coast, West Coast, The South and the Red Central states. I get GREAT satisfaction knowing that the South and Central Red states will have to get by without the wealth of the two coast countries.

  • Anonymous

    I have one daughter and one granddaughter. Granddaughter and I are working on her learning how to survive with little money. What worries me is that my generation is the last to have any understanding of how to cut back. From the middle of the Baby Boom on, they don’t have a clue.

  • TheDevilCanDance

    Don’t take my word for it, look at the report from the Inspector general regarding US infrastructures
    (roads, bridges,tunnels. public buildings, schools. electricity grids etc….), The US is not far behind
    Zimbabwe…..

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SG3UMGTR653T733YHMWNMGKQCE Skyguy

    A more important question is; Why do we do business with China?

  • Anonymous

    Funny I see a population expolosion of the Ignoramus branch of our species!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J5JUWP5Q6UA5XQY67ZAEQHXQQU Frank Fort

    oh

  • Anonymous

    Maybe you should go back to school and learn HOW TO READ. That wasn’t directed at Patty, it was directed AT YOU. Good God, you are even MORE of a moron than I gave you credit for. You clearly don’t even make it to imbecile.

    I am sure Patty is fine. YOU, on the other hand, are a total fuck. And you prove it with every post. So I repeat: Shut the fuck up.

  • Anonymous

    Hey aghast – I have two friends that bailed out to Costa Rica and they love it. One went before I bailed out to Russia and the other after I’d been out of there for some time.
    I’m staying here and never returning, at least not against my will. Living is so easy outside of the land of fear mongering and Big Brother! Have you noticed that only in the US there is talk of terrorists under every bed and around every shadow? And they are the only country that has the ‘fear of god’ and is the only country that even mentions that one world government. I have been out of the states long enough to see that even the daily advertising there is part of the psyops and helps spread the fear of everything.
    Besides, I have clean food, free of very inexpensive medical (my choice) and just last week friends of my wife’s family butchered a beef cow and we were given 20 kilograms of prime beef – no hormones or chemicals – only grass fed.

  • Anonymous

    Ok I can buy that line or reasoning. Where/how can we get confimation?

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    Yep, all you can do is die on your knees praying to God. What a life.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SG3UMGTR653T733YHMWNMGKQCE Skyguy

    This Nation is IMHO to broken to fix. Most of The People are all on mind neutralizing medications, drugs or alcohol to bother to fight.

    Does anyone want to guess why there is a push to make pot legal? Because it saps your desire to fight. A stoned nation will NEVER rise up against their Government.

    Just six years ago I told people that our economic collapse was engineered and underway. I was told to move to another Country if I did not love the U.S.A.

    I love my “Homeland” I would fight to defend it from any enemy on our soil. One small problem. While this may be “Homeland” it sure as hell does not belong to me or anyone that thinks like me.

  • Anonymous

    A lot of it was just paper and never real. The derivative market was all just paper. Trouble was that “paper” represented a total greater than the GWP (gross world product). That is when the pyramid started collapsing. Even the dumbest wealthy knew it was time to get out.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/RonPaulDisciple Robert Timsah

    At this point we need to consider what would we lose if it all came down? We could do anything (largely) we wanted and we’d be able to keep our income. We could demand to get paid in silver – the people choose their currency. For me, I get no use from social welfare programs. I also see no use for our wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. In fact, I see little use we get from our military, EXCEPT the defensive abilities. But what is there left to defend? Debt? Yes, it may all come down but the question we must ask is; Is that a bad thing anymore? :(

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    Fight with what? have you ever killed anybody? Probably not. Do you know how to kill if you had to? Probably not.

    Stop being fake. Unless you are a gangster don’t pretend to be one. And if you are a gangster then you are an idiot for advertising it.

    You’ll fight to defend it? How are you going to get trained without the government finding out you are training?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZF7YJAO4XTY6HPLDCVK7L5KGUY JT

    Exactly so…
    Which in turn will create even more stress on the natural environment , which cannot sustain such demands for it’s resources, leading to a desperate scrambling amongst those who would have it all, until it ends.

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    Really? So you take down the US government and the italian, irish, chinese or other mafia decides they are your new government. Are you prepared to form a gang and kill them?

    What about a militia? are you a member of a militia? If you aren’t a member of a gang or militia then you are a cheerleader.

  • Anonymous

    The rise of WalMart is a very important clue. WalMart is the largest retailer in America. It imports most of the junk it sells. It relies on cheap labor abroad. At home, it underpays its employees, both in salary and benefits. WalMart is forcing the reduction of salaries in this country. American workers now have to compete with the world. Salaries are coming down folks.

  • Anonymous

    Can you please stop blaming the progressive/liberals for everything. Geezzee look around you…didn’t you just watch our elected democratic representatives WITH a majority vote for the rich and corporations. A vote by a liberal/progressive would have done nothing because there are not real representatives of us in the White House or Congress. Go blame the real guilty party….Corporations and the political representatives owed by them.

  • http://twitter.com/EconomicHostage Economic Hostage.Com

    “I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.”
    Thomas Jefferson

    This fight has been going on for over 200 years. They way the won was through a dumbing down of the younger generations and a compliant corporate owned Main Stream Media. Nobody wants to know the truth, because then they would have to deal with it.

    The Revolution will not be televised.

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    Don’t forget gun control. Racism, religion, classicism.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe he has a reason. I think he is overly optimistic about the timeline. These things always take so much longer than I think they should. But as for his conclusion, I see the same scenario as he does.

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    Well then you better form your alliances with the Mexican drug cartels, Al Qaeda, Cuba etc.

    Because when the revolution happens one or all of them will take over entire sections of the USA. American citizens don’t have the drug cartels and organized crime gangsters to do even basic stuff like order a hit or make tax free money. Americans don’t even have fake ID and passports.

  • Anonymous

    I think a general strike has more possibilities than riots in the street. Staying home is palatable to some people.

  • Anonymous

    I think a general strike has more possibilities than riots in the street. Staying home is palatable to some people.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think I must have expressed myself I don’t blame progressives and liberals. I am a proud liberal and I lived in 1960′s and 1970′s ( I was a kid) when tax rates were higher for the rich. Schools were funded, one parent could stay home with the kids and colleges were affordable. I saw the beginning of Reagonomics start to destroy the social fabric of this country to benefit the rich. It’s hard to sit back and see what’s happening now when I remember and benefited so greatly during the 60′s and 70′s. So many people are being fooled by our MSM to think and vote against their best interests. I guess we have to hit rock bottom in this country before people realize that the rich and their tax cuts are hurting this country.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think I must have expressed myself I don’t blame progressives and liberals. I am a proud liberal and I lived in 1960′s and 1970′s ( I was a kid) when tax rates were higher for the rich. Schools were funded, one parent could stay home with the kids and colleges were affordable. I saw the beginning of Reagonomics start to destroy the social fabric of this country to benefit the rich. It’s hard to sit back and see what’s happening now when I remember and benefited so greatly during the 60′s and 70′s. So many people are being fooled by our MSM to think and vote against their best interests. I guess we have to hit rock bottom in this country before people realize that the rich and their tax cuts are hurting this country.

  • http://www.themine-thebook.com Daniel R Cobb

    Fabulous article, and IMHO, dead on. All of the signs are there. International corporatism is gutting the American middle class while posting record profits, the rise of corporate rights above those of citizens (Citizens United), massive transfer of wealth to the richest Americans, the coming demise of Social Security and other safety nets, unprecedented levels American federal debt with money owed to the world, and the collapse of the dollar. In the midst of these signs, all we can bring ourselves to do is cut taxes and print more dollars.

  • http://www.themine-thebook.com Daniel R Cobb

    Fabulous article, and IMHO, dead on. All of the signs are there. International corporatism is gutting the American middle class while posting record profits, the rise of corporate rights above those of citizens (Citizens United), massive transfer of wealth to the richest Americans, the coming demise of Social Security and other safety nets, unprecedented levels American federal debt with money owed to the world, and the collapse of the dollar. In the midst of these signs, all we can bring ourselves to do is cut taxes and print more dollars.

  • Anonymous

    There was a very good episode of Frontline that went into the damage that WalMart ALONE has done tot his country’s retail manufacturing sector. They used the example of Rubbermaid, which was a NH company for 75 years at that time, employing about 300 people, the largest in the community. Walmart went to them and said “We want to sell your products but we want to do it at 30% less than your COST”. Rubbermaid said “we can’t do that, it would destroy our company”, where WM said “Sure you can, just move your factory over to China, you can pay next to nothing for wages, and we can make money selling your stuff”. RM said “We can’t do that to this community, we’ve been part of it for 75 years”, and WM came back with “Then we will just take it all over to China, make YOUR products and drive you out of business”. The final scene in the show was the factory being auctioned off to foreign interests, while the workers sat by and cried. So now, you can buy Rubbermaid products, but they AIN’T Rubbermaid. They are cheaper, Chinese CRAP.

    I myself won’t darken WM’s doorway, and I tell everyone I know not to as well. These people shouldn’t be rewarded for what they have done to this country, and Sam Walton would probably disown his scum sucking children for what they have done since he died. They should be locked up for being such sorry, selfish, greedy shit. And every GD lawmaker who passed those damned tax cuts should be taken out and flogged, then locked up for the rest of their miserable lives. They are just as much if not MORE to blame than the greedy. They let themselves be bought off.

    And for the record, we closed and shipped off 47,000 FACTORIES during W’s 8 years. Any wonder that we lost 8 MILLION jobs during the same period?

  • Anonymous

    There was a very good episode of Frontline that went into the damage that WalMart ALONE has done tot his country’s retail manufacturing sector. They used the example of Rubbermaid, which was a NH company for 75 years at that time, employing about 300 people, the largest in the community. Walmart went to them and said “We want to sell your products but we want to do it at 30% less than your COST”. Rubbermaid said “we can’t do that, it would destroy our company”, where WM said “Sure you can, just move your factory over to China, you can pay next to nothing for wages, and we can make money selling your stuff”. RM said “We can’t do that to this community, we’ve been part of it for 75 years”, and WM came back with “Then we will just take it all over to China, make YOUR products and drive you out of business”. The final scene in the show was the factory being auctioned off to foreign interests, while the workers sat by and cried. So now, you can buy Rubbermaid products, but they AIN’T Rubbermaid. They are cheaper, Chinese CRAP.

    I myself won’t darken WM’s doorway, and I tell everyone I know not to as well. These people shouldn’t be rewarded for what they have done to this country, and Sam Walton would probably disown his scum sucking children for what they have done since he died. They should be locked up for being such sorry, selfish, greedy shit. And every GD lawmaker who passed those damned tax cuts should be taken out and flogged, then locked up for the rest of their miserable lives. They are just as much if not MORE to blame than the greedy. They let themselves be bought off.

    And for the record, we closed and shipped off 47,000 FACTORIES during W’s 8 years. Any wonder that we lost 8 MILLION jobs during the same period?

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    You are idiculous. Protest just allows them to identify and take you out. You’ll go on the protester list.

    Face it, American citizens wont be doing the fighting. It will be gangsters, cartels, and intelligence operatives from other countries. American citizens can’t even form gangs without being locked in prison on charges. You think Americans will be able to form militias, buy guns, and train without being detected or stopped?

    It wont happen. And if you think revolution will be non violent, that wont happen either. So either you are prepared to kill and be killed for revolution, or you are a cheerleader. If you are prepared to kill and be killed then you better not be posting these posts under your real identity because the NSA,CIA, and FBI probably track every post.

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    You are idiculous. Protest just allows them to identify and take you out. You’ll go on the protester list.

    Face it, American citizens wont be doing the fighting. It will be gangsters, cartels, and intelligence operatives from other countries. American citizens can’t even form gangs without being locked in prison on charges. You think Americans will be able to form militias, buy guns, and train without being detected or stopped?

    It wont happen. And if you think revolution will be non violent, that wont happen either. So either you are prepared to kill and be killed for revolution, or you are a cheerleader. If you are prepared to kill and be killed then you better not be posting these posts under your real identity because the NSA,CIA, and FBI probably track every post.

  • http://www.bobcatarts.com Robert Gandy

    Not that I disagree with your sentiments, but you don’t present too many options:

    -Be a totally complicit victim. (No thank you.)
    -Organize (gang, militia, etc) without organizing (because The Man(tm) will find out)
    -Resist (but not too much)…

    “The End” is coming, you and he agree, but what do you propose to do about it if his options don’t suit you?

  • http://www.bobcatarts.com Robert Gandy

    Not that I disagree with your sentiments, but you don’t present too many options:

    -Be a totally complicit victim. (No thank you.)
    -Organize (gang, militia, etc) without organizing (because The Man(tm) will find out)
    -Resist (but not too much)…

    “The End” is coming, you and he agree, but what do you propose to do about it if his options don’t suit you?

  • Hologram5

    They’re just figuring this out? Wow.

  • Hologram5

    They’re just figuring this out? Wow.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZF7YJAO4XTY6HPLDCVK7L5KGUY JT

    To the victor goes the spoils.
    A marginally habitable planet of ruin and desolation. -Oh Boy!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZF7YJAO4XTY6HPLDCVK7L5KGUY JT

    To the victor goes the spoils.
    A marginally habitable planet of ruin and desolation. -Oh Boy!

  • http://www.themine-thebook.com Daniel R Cobb

    Try civil upheaval and resulting violence. Economic collapse. Sky-rocketing poverty. decades of slow recovery. As bad or worse than the Great Depression.

  • http://www.themine-thebook.com Daniel R Cobb

    Try civil upheaval and resulting violence. Economic collapse. Sky-rocketing poverty. decades of slow recovery. As bad or worse than the Great Depression.

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    Which is why the subversives will be foreigners, or street gangsters.

    These same idiot liberals who push for gun control and who want to fight the street gangs in urban communities are the ones who now are looking for leaders, BEGGING for leaders.

    Why don’t they look in prison? Thats where all the subversive Americans are. And the leaders are locked down 23 hours a day in supermax. Look at what they did to John Gotti.

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    Which is why the subversives will be foreigners, or street gangsters.

    These same idiot liberals who push for gun control and who want to fight the street gangs in urban communities are the ones who now are looking for leaders, BEGGING for leaders.

    Why don’t they look in prison? Thats where all the subversive Americans are. And the leaders are locked down 23 hours a day in supermax. Look at what they did to John Gotti.

  • http://www.themine-thebook.com Daniel R Cobb

    :-) Yahoo. On that note, have a great weekend everybody!
    Portland, Oregon.

  • http://www.themine-thebook.com Daniel R Cobb

    :-) Yahoo. On that note, have a great weekend everybody!
    Portland, Oregon.

  • Anonymous

    Well, you could of told someone.

  • Anonymous

    Well, you could of told someone.

  • Anonymous

    He wasn’t talking about ME, moron.

  • Anonymous

    “For me, I get no use from social welfare programs.”

    So can we assume you’ve written to the government, informing them of your rejection of any future assistance via Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, Unemployment or any other “social” programs?

  • http://www.bobcatarts.com Robert Gandy

    “The sky is falling!” or “The End is near!” or “Collapse is at hand!” or “Danger Will Robinson!”

    All sounds the same to me. What, specifically and in concrete terms, does this even mean? Will I have my non-teaching university job tomorrow? Can I still get bread and beans? How much will gas cost for my little car? If my house catches fire or somebody robs me, can I still call 911, and if not, who -if anyone?

    I don’t mean to belittle the sincerity of whistle blowers, fear mongers or denialists. Present your facts without hyperbolic empty rhetoric. If all of this is inevitable (as the only common thread seems to state), then let’s make a plan for how to deal with it as rational, civil people while we still can.

  • Anonymous

    It is hard being a futurist. The variables are immense, the imagination is unpredictable, and the future is non-linear, now multiply that a million fold and it becomes clear, there are multiple paths flowing and weaving towards the future. America is exceptionally strong in its creative and inventive prowess, but while this is true, a 14 trillion dollar deficit is a huge disadvantage, that leaves America with its hands tied behind its back. Russia and China, should not get too arrogant, because the world markets are interlinked into a systematic whole. Let one of the major pieces fall, and the whole system will be thrust into chaos. When Corporations were given all the legal rights of a person, that was the beginning of the coup. Trouble is that corporations in psychological terms exhibit all the symptoms of a pure psychopath. Corporations are machines, programmed by quarterly earnings, and an army of yes men, who will stop at nothing at raping the Earth of its resources, and dumbing down its customer base into consuming zombies. America may fall in the same way that Britain became a has been empire.

  • Hologram5

    My bad man, sorry :( I have a friend that works in the pallet industry. Nothing moves without a pallet and they are slow. If they’re not making pallets, product isn’t moving and if product isn’t moving, neither is the economy.

  • Anonymous

    Mr. Smith,
    My good friend lives in China and he simply refuses to ever go back to the US. We were in the Vietnam war – he a helicopter pilot and I on the turf. He has only good things to say about China and has lived there for over 15 years. And I moved to the center of Russia in 1999 – and sir, I don’t want to return to the states either.

  • D.Crockett

    well Johnflagg what a yarn you can tell I havent heard one like that since I was blowing lightning bolts out my ass!

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    No. I’m saying there are certain things American citizens can do and certain things we can’t do.

    If you are an Italian American and born into a mafia family with connections to Italy then there are a different set of rules for you and what you can do should you decide to be a revolutionary. If you are from a rich dynastic family like Patty Hearst there are different rules that apply to you.

    I’m saying if you are a middle class peasant or poor/lower class, you’ve already been taken out of the game. They already have the noose around your neck. I’m saying the lower and middle class in America are powerless. I’m saying in specific the urban American lower class are the most powerless, yet somehow the rich elite college professor award winners who never had to face the governments wrath in their entire life are the most vocal “revolutionaries”?!

    So we have millions of prisoners from poor communities all across this country, where are these college professors? Why isn’t code pink and all these Ex-CIA’s going to prisons and talking to these people? Better yet why aren’t they going to the toughest more scary ghettos in the USA to talk to the bloods, the crips, MS13, the REAL subversives?

    I know why, it’s because they are afraid to sit or talk to these sorts of people. But they expect these sorts of people to die for their interests LITERALLY. All while they promote gun control, harsh as possible drug sentencing, and of course they wont hire any of these people to work for their businesses doing anything legit.

    So we have a class of subversives who get treated like shit, and we have white middle class wannabes who want to protest, talk, make noise and piss off the feds so they’ll crack down even harder on the subversives who are continually treated like shit?

    I’m not taking the Pulitzer winning writer seriously. He’s just a writer. He’s no more of a subversive than you or me. But he wants to pretend like he is. Just like Michael Moore who probably doesn’t even own a gun and probably never shot one, but who wants to take on the bankers who have blackwater mercenaries waiting to receive orders to take out entire families of subversives in ways which will look like car accidents, like cancer, or HIV, etc.

    Until somebody posts on Rawstory with actual gang/street level subversive experience I can’t take these articles seriously. Rawstory is a good site, I like the articles but they need to interview a few street level gangsters or former gangsters who actually DID stuff and not these people who are entirely theoretical like Julian Assange.

  • http://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2010/12/16/chris-hedges-hope-is-an-action/ Chris Hedges: Hope is an Action « Dandelion Salad

    [...] Exclusive: US empire could collapse at any time, Pulitzer winner tells Raw Story | Raw Story [...]

  • Stephen Martin

    The Zombies will start to get a clue, and will have to find scapegoats. They’ve already started with Illegal immigrants. Everyone but themselves. God forbid the ignorant take personal responsibility for ANYTHING. Everything on TV is real to them. Strange society we live in.

  • http://womenborntranssexual.com/2010/12/17/exclusive-us-empire-could-collapse-at-any-time-pulitzer-winner-tells-raw-story/ Exclusive: US empire could collapse at any time, Pulitzer winner tells Raw Story « Women Born Transsexual
  • Anonymous

    I know what you mean, but overall, the economy is actually slowly coming along. It was a deep, deep hole, with the actual recession beginning in December of 2007 (almost no one appears to be aware of that), but it is going to take some time…along with the misery.

    I’m in the construction business and it’s also very slow.

  • Anonymous

    Robert, Chris Hedges has presented his facts clearly many times before, without “hyperbolic empty rhetoric”. If all you know about him is what you’ve read in this small article there is much more to explore. He is well educated and a prolific writer. His work appears regularly on truthdig.com.

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    Of course. And in the 70s-80s it was black gang members who received the scapegoat punishment.

    I think this time is different though. I think this time there wont be a scapegoat. Many white middle class people are going to be treated like subversives this time while in the 60s 70s 80s these people were artificially shielded. Now the feds are focusing in on the white middle class for the first time ever.

  • Obi-jonKenobi

    Hedges is particularly lucid on my favorite reason for the decline of America; the power of the reich-wing media (propaganda) machine. He traces it back to WW l and the way the economic powers in America used propaganda to push America into that war for the sake of the investment American banks had in England and France.

    I think that this propaganda machine has soared in influence beginning in ernest in the early 90′s as they went after Clinton (they did exactly the same thing to Obama in the past two years). The emergence of Faux News and the hate-talk radio/cable schlock-miesters like Rush LIMPbaug, Shawn Insannity, Glenn Dreck, and Shrill O’Liely has created a parallel universe where any fact can be tortured into confessing to whatever lie is needed at the moment.

    Orwell was only off by 10 years.

  • Anonymous

    I agree. But I think an argument could also be made that it occured when Reagan took office. I always laugh when republicans exalt him like their Jesus.

    But the 9-11 whitewash was such a red flag and needs proper, INDEPENDENT, investigation. I wanted to say yesterday, in regards to that TSA story on how they are a complete joke, letting obvious weapons/guns/bombs though, that if you are still in denial about what went down on 9-11 then look at TSA. The fact that time and time again they FAIL at spotting obvious weapons yet no “terrorism” has occured In this country (when it easily could have – save for the republicans) since 9-11 should at least make you pause. If the “terrorists” succeeded against their enemy they would have done it over and over again. They would hit ‘em while they’re down. But they didn’t. Before you say, “what about the ‘underwear bomber’ or the ‘shoe bomber’, they got those ‘terrorists’, didn’t they?” Who got them? The FBI? The same FBI that blatantly setup a guy just recently? The same FBI that fucked one if their own when she blew the whistle? And what resulted from 9-11? Well, the Patriot Act, which is huge in volume, which no one read (or was allowed to), which Obama, along with leadership in Congress, has done nothing to fix. But they dont DO anything anyway.

    Oh, and it’s Christmas time and what does that mean? Terror Alerts! And video of Osama bin Laden. Every year, people! It’s ALL slight of hand. Distract with fear and confuse, then rape and pillage. America needs a big dose of smelling salts.

    Anyway, I know it’s a rant. But all this is such BS that I had to vomit a little.

  • Hologram5

    I remember then I had been telling everyone that it was coming, I had seen the signs, being the oldest one at the company I have lived through several of them, and they kept telling me to change the foil on my hat. Needless to say, once it hit I didn’t have the heart to tell them, “I TOLD YOU!!”. LOL, Happy Holidays Dalton…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    But you notice the member of the “party of no [original thoughts]” used my line back at you.. what a fucktard he is.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    Hey.. douchebag.. if you like other people’s sayings so much, you should probably credit them when you use them. And no, I don’t approve of you using my quip, but hey.. that’s free speech for ya, you get to be all douchebaggery till the cows come home and no one is gonna stop ya. Laugh at ya, yeah.. but not stop ya.

  • http://twitter.com/EconomicHostage Economic Hostage.Com

    “If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them (around the banks), will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.” – Thomas Jefferson

    Looks like now its a done deal, Spoiled American consumers don’t have enough sense to pull their money out of those monsters and close their wallets. Would flip the script overnight.

  • Anonymous

    Just thinking back to the thinking about the Vietnam War. The powers that be in the USA considered it a ‘must win’ or else the Third World would start to get restive, and challenge our economic dominance unless we punished them with our military might.

    Well, we failed. Utterly. And the consequences are unfolding now; first it was the oil embargoes, that had all the money flowing into oil rich states. Then it was manufacturing, which went to Asia and isn’t coming back. Now it’s our education: whole universities are shutting down language instruction in a world where knowing more is crucial…

    We can’t run forever on NOTHING.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    I’m pretty sure he knows how these nested comments work.. he’s just playing that 3 year old game “I’m not touching you I’m not touching you” with his finger in your face. Since that’s all the more developed these kinds of people’s psyches are, that’s what we have to put up with. The whole “rubber glue” or “I know you are but what am I” from dumb and dumber (he’s both).

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    “many”, if more than two then you’re contributing to the resource crunch, regardless of how well you raise them. The planet can’t take too many more humans before it really starts to fall apart.

    Raising your kids to be good world citizens is great, but if that’s less than 1/10 of 1 percent, it still doesn’t matter.

    There’s a reason that as education rises the number of children a woman has declines.

  • http://www.themine-thebook.com Daniel R Cobb

    All of our problems can be traced back to the Vietnam War? ???

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DCLOMC65UOVXMU6MI2PPVXOBXE Burn

    (Monster)
    Once the religious, the hunted and weary
    Chasing the promise of freedom and hope
    Came to this country to build a new vision
    Far from the reaches of kingdom and pope
    Like good Christians, some would burn the witches
    Later some got slaves to gather riches

    But still from near and far to seek America
    They came by thousands to court the wild
    And she just patiently smiled and bore a child
    To be their spirit and guiding light

    And once the ties with the crown had been broken
    Westward in saddle and wagon it went
    And ’til the railroad linked ocean to ocean
    Many the lives which had come to an end
    While we bullied, stole and bought our a homeland
    We began the slaughter of the red man

    But still from near and far to seek America
    They came by thousands to court the wild
    And she just patiently smiled and bore a child
    To be their spirit and guiding light

    The blue and grey they stomped it
    They kicked it just like a dog
    And when the war over
    They stuffed it just like a hog

    And though the past has it’s share of injustice
    Kind was the spirit in many a way
    But it’s protectors and friends have been sleeping
    Now it’s a monster and will not obey

    (Suicide)
    The spirit was freedom and justice
    And it’s keepers seem generous and kind
    It’s leaders were supposed to serve the country
    But now they won’t pay it no mind
    ‘Cause the people grew fat and got lazy
    And now their vote is a meaningless joke
    They babble about law and order
    But it’s all just an echo of what they’ve been told
    Yeah, there’s a monster on the loose
    It’s got our heads into a noose
    And it just sits there watchin’

    Our cities have turned into jungles
    And corruption is stranglin’ the land
    The police force is watching the people
    And the people just can’t understand
    We don’t know how to mind our own business
    ‘Cause the whole worlds got to be just like us
    Now we are fighting a war over there
    No matter who’s the winner
    We can’t pay the cost
    ‘Cause there’s a monster on the loose
    It’s got our heads into a noose
    And it just sits there watching

    (America)
    America where are you now?
    Don’t you care about your sons and daughters?
    Don’t you know we need you now
    We can’t fight alone against the monster

    Steppenwolf: Monster/Suicide/America Lyrics
    Words and music by John Kay, Jerry Edmonton, Nick St. Nicholas and Larry Byrom

  • Anonymous

    Oh, I don’t know. The class war began in earnest with the selection of Reagan in 1980 but it wasn’t in full swing until around 1984.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    Don’t be so quick to believe the lie that the rest of the world “needs us”. China is showing us that we’re becoming obsolete faster than we ever thought we would. And don’t forget that civilizations existed and thrived long before the U.S. even existed.

    If you want to tear down an entire wall of your house, a wall that if ripped out would collapse it, you can build structures to bear the load first, then rip the wall out. The rest of the world is rapidly building support structures, and I would guess with either the knowledge of or intent to “pull down that wall” that is Amerika.

    And our great grandparents weren’t Capitalists, they were laborers. That’s the point the ruling elite likes to gloss over, and why we’re so fucked.

  • Anonymous

    There is no reason to expect anything else from this twit. It has been about a month, now, and this idiot has yet to say a single thing of ANY substance. It’s all insults and taunts. NO thought behind a single bit of it. Amazing that this twit could think that he or she actually has something to say or that this is how political discussion should be done. What a piece of shit. And a sad commentary on this country that THIS is accepted as legitimate. It’s just pathetic.

  • Anonymous

    You have a happy holiday, too…and by the way, that’s one ugly dog you got yourself there.

  • Anonymous

    You have a happy holiday, too…and by the way, that’s one ugly dog you got yourself there.

  • Anonymous

    Pelosi, Reid, and the other Wimpocrats are completely supportive of all of this.

  • Anonymous

    Pelosi, Reid, and the other Wimpocrats are completely supportive of all of this.

  • http://twitter.com/jollypineapple jp cleary

    Dude, watch out! You could be charged with terrorism under the US “laws”

  • http://twitter.com/jollypineapple jp cleary

    Dude, watch out! You could be charged with terrorism under the US “laws”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    “Because it saps your desire to fight.”

    Tell that to all the Vietnam Vets that spent most of their time stoned and blowing up asians.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    The bulk of the American fighting force during the Revolutionary war weren’t professional soldiers, mercs, gansters, or anything of that nature.. they were farmers and children.

    Just because YOU can’t conceive of killing or fighting doesn’t mean everyone else out there is as stunted as you.

  • Anonymous

    Excellent! It does seem true how artists like poets, songwriters, comedians, painters get to the heart of the matter first. They cut their way past the bullshit to see the unvarnished truth.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    Do you eat food? then you use social welfare programs since all of our food is subsidized.

  • Anonymous

    We should have gotten physical 10 years ago.

  • Anonymous

    Yep. That’s the direction. The Establishment learned from the Vitetnam protests. Dissent is now effectively illegal and anyone can be disappeared. The national security state is now in place and we have a ministry of the interior (secret police aka DHS), habeas corpus is no more, the security apparatus has been “professionalized,” and posse comitatus has been ended, allowing NorthCom to impose martial law. The US is now a giant concentration camp at the mercy of the corporate state, and the corporate state (fascism) has no mercy. Enjoy what’s left while it lasts.

  • Anonymous

    We compete with our own homegrown prison labor now. The inmates in GA are on strike as of yesterday. They have been slaves to the states or the corporations for many years. How come we have so many prisoners? Because it’s good for business, not for labor.
    I am so saddened by the paltry number of protesters at the White House yesterday. There were even fewer at a Chase bank the same day. When we do manage respectable numbers the MSM lets no news out.
    Watch and record Jessie Ventura’s show tonight on trutv. It isn’t a conspiracy theory if it’s TRUE!

  • Anonymous

    don’t worry…anyone referring to themselves or anyone else as “Dude”, no one takes seriously anyway.

  • Anonymous

    He’s telling the truth and I don’t think Obama can stop it now that the Corporations have taken over the Government and the Courts. The signs of the Coup d etat have been going on since the 5 political US Supreme Court Justices violated the Constitution and appointed George W. Bush as President. Notice how few Americans and even Law Makers know what is in the Constitution. The Founding Fathers put a clause in there just in case this would happen. The Justices know this but few Americans bothered to read it. The next violation was giving Corporations the same power as citizens which we know is wrong with the first 7 words in the Constitution. We the people not we the Corporations. The current law makers are puppets of the corporations/banks as that’s who put them in office. We’ll see many try to shut down the Government knowing we owe China and the stuff will hit the fan. Corporations did well using the Tea Party protesters as a front. With the help of the Media and Press the scam worked. We will no have to fight for our country from the enemy within and there are both Democrats and Republicans who work for the Corporations not the American people. I’m 72 and I’ll just watch because I already did my fightin for rights during the Civil Rights Movement and my Dad, husband and sons all were Military soldiers for our country I have given enough I’m tired now.

  • Anonymous

    Ohh this story must be the ultimate wet dream for the America haters out there. Be careful of what you wish for, we all know how great the world became after the fall of Rome.

  • Ma’at

    Here’s hoping.

  • Anonymous

    and this is supposed to be news? Exclusive?
    All empires fall, sooner or later.
    Do you know of any empire that existed 1 hundred years ago?

  • Ma’at

    The only America Haters are the baggers. they loathe America, the Constitution, Freedom, diversity, charity …. anything that doesn’t fit into their world of bigotry.

    And Rome became corrupt which is why she fell. It is the reason why America will fall and it can be laid at the feet of conservatism. And when she does fail, the world will rejoice and rightly so.

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    That was centuries ago! The USA did not have counter intelligence like the FBI, it did not have a CIA with urban warfare units trained to get away with murder, and it did not have blackwater mercenaries working for the banks waiting in the wings to assassinate anyone who threatens the empire.

    It’s not a matter of being able to conceive it. Anybody can pull a trigger and kill, it’s as natural as breathing air. What isn’t so easy is to be an efficient skillful assassin. There are some highly trained experienced assassins in Mexico who know how to get away with murder and then you have dumbass teenage hackers on the internet who think they are anonymous.

    If the feds wanted to they could have anyone killed and it would look like natural causes. Did you forget Obama has the power to assassinate American citizens? Did you forget that the CIA can kill and not even tell Obama? Did you forget that the FBI has killed in the past? Did you forget that blackwater mercenaries who have killed hundreds of people in different countries could come here with fake identities, false passports, and professionally begin killing folks and get away with it because they don’t exist to the government?

    You are so naive that you think they don’t know you are typing what you are typing on your computer, and you think they can’t take you out whenever they feel like it. Alternatively you don’t have any mercenaries with the skill level to take even your next door neighbor out, so what revolution are you supposed to lead?

    Please understand that with one order drones could drop a bomb on you and all the subversives on the list. Or if they want it to be quiet then the nano weapons or biological viruses could be put into your food which you probably buy from a supermarket or restaurant. You don’t even have your own water supply LOL.

  • Anonymous

    Could you please look at the ideas at http://www.foundationcanada.ca, and consider them as a means to deal with the political dimension of this problem. Thanks, Carl Joudrie

  • Anonymous

    You are absolutely correct to blame the criminal elite and their government. They formally announced their police state self-protection system on September 11, 2001 and formalized it with the Patriot Act. However, the people by their ignorance, laziness, inaction and unjustifiable and dogmatic belief in the “goodness” and truthfulness of the government and CIA/MSM have allowed the new empire to prosper and expand. All are to blame, some much more than others. A free society can’t long survive an unskeptical, unread and intellectually incurious citizenry. So, by indirection we will get what we deserve.

  • Anonymous

    You are absolutely correct to blame the criminal elite and their government. They formally announced their police state self-protection system on September 11, 2001 and formalized it with the Patriot Act. However, the people by their ignorance, laziness, inaction and unjustifiable and dogmatic belief in the “goodness” and truthfulness of the government and CIA/MSM have allowed the new empire to prosper and expand. All are to blame, some much more than others. A free society can’t long survive an unskeptical, unread and intellectually incurious citizenry. So, by indirection we will get what we deserve.

  • Anonymous

    lol. And what a great place Rome was right before it fell.

  • Anonymous

    lol. And what a great place Rome was right before it fell.

  • Anonymous

    As for the economic and political dimensions of this problem, one way to bring about serious structural reform might be to consider a democratically induced and controlled form of World Federation. These ideas can be found at http://www.foundationcanada.ca

  • Anonymous

    As for the economic and political dimensions of this problem, one way to bring about serious structural reform might be to consider a democratically induced and controlled form of World Federation. These ideas can be found at http://www.foundationcanada.ca

  • grindermonkey

    If you accept that the dollar is based fundamentally on the good faith of the American people then its international decline is much more troubling than just market driven chit chat. It means that we are politically marooned, isolated by the aggression, fraud and murder that our government and the international banks are projecting. This will require much more than money and lending tricks to cure; it will require a fundamental change in our government’s philosophy. The same ‘ugly American’ hubris can no longer work when an outfit like the Taliban has defeated our military.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J2BKVG44GLNRGIAYKD7UO4O27E Arthur Young

    The American Haters are those that have been bulldozed by many of our Policies, most of which have been carried out by Internationalists who are not satisfied with their piece of the American Dream, they need to go offshore for labor and to harbor their Headquarters and Bank Accounts from our laws !! Also our Colonial behavior toward the Middle East and Africa, mimics our good friend and model across the pond..which was also an Empire. I am proud to be an American ( some of our history is shameful, but in a diverse culture we managed some progress, we are still lacking a lot more ) but as a American all my life it is not my fellow Americans that are steering the Titanic..it is the Political/ Corporate criminals and their self satisfied Lackeys in 99.9 percent of the News Media.

  • Anonymous

    WJM… first it was calling Patti a pile of horse shit and then Joe Nobody an imbecile and now you’re telling dk4 to shut the fuck up, I think you have a problem controlling your anger. Do you work in the food industry??? If so, please wash your hands after playing catch with feces like so many others here have said. Remember, the food you make or deliver may possibly be to my table!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    I think you watch too many movies.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    Still pursuing that douchebaggery award, I see.

  • Anonymous

    dl504
    slipping down the toilet?? WJM and Joe Nobody are the experts on toilet and raw sewage topics, as them.

  • http://topsy.com/trackback?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rawstory.com%2Frs%2F2010%2F12%2Funtitled-chris-hedges-interview%2F%3Fhl%3Den&utm_source=pingback&utm_campaign=L2 Tweets that mention Exclusive: US empire could collapse at any time, Pulitzer winner tells Raw Story | Raw Story — Topsy.com

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  • Anonymous

    Are you kidding Joe? WJM has that one bagged for the next 25 years! He is considered Mr.Douche!

  • Anonymous

    It’s not a fair fight against China. For one thing they don’t fight the kind of fights we do. They don’t create wars and revolutions as we do but simply beat the crap out of us in trade. They don’t bomb the crap out if the third world and establish dictators to give away their countries wealth as we do ; they build railway, roads, schools and act as real partners with their trading partners.

    Stll we might have won the battle if the banks, the share holders and CEO’s hadn’t scewed us, hadn’t allowed our manufacturing to rot on the vine in order to make their billions.

    How unfair.

  • Eyeball_Kid

    Hedges, at least in this interview, isn’t even dealing with a problem that may be bigger than all of them: Peak Oil and its consequences. (See Michael Ruppert’s “Collapse.”) The fact that no one in public office is dealing with this or any of the issues exposed by Hedges is an ugly comment on our current political system– one that now serves the corporatocracy at the expense of the common citizen.

    Instead, Acorn is demonized and punished for being the object of a lie, and WikiLeaks is being attacked for showing that the US’ control of information isn’t leak proof. A whistleblower is locked in solitary confinement, Assange is being harrassed for running WikiLeaks under the lie that his sexual behavior should be scrutinized, and study after study shows that the dominant voice in mass media information, Fox News, actively and intentionally misinforms its viewers for the benefit of Corporate America.

    So, we are faced with two dominant possibilities: that our current political system is transformed into one that treats the common citizen respectfully, that the billions in the political system be shut out of the electoral process, and the the US develop an economy based upon localized distribution of wealth and resources (a repudiation of the “Global Economy”). This would require a political activism at all levels to save our quality of life.

    The other option is for the current political system to play itself out, and to watch in horror as our long-held systems of economics, job creation, manufacturing, agriculture, law enforcement, and infrastructure collapse before our eyes.

    We can already see that our long-held value that we live by the Rule of Law is already in a state of disintegration. The biggest crimes in the 21st century, from the 9/11 Inside Job, to Iraq invasion, to the torture and war crimes, to the financial collapse by the big banks, have not been addressed by the US Department of Justice. Hundreds of criminals have not been arrested and the thieves of billions and billions of dollars have not been investigated. And the common citizen who only has to have the ability to read knows that it’s all true. We know that our society is two-tiered. The wealthy and the corporations are untouchable. The rest of us are penalized for not having enough money to buy ourselves freedom if we commit a crime.

    That’s what it’s become. That’s what the Democrats (Republicans should be called the Anti-Constitution Party, because that’s what they are.) have insured for all of us, from Pelosi’s “impeachment is not on the table” announcement, to Obama’s “we’re looking forward; investigating for war crimes would open old wounds” nonsense. And now, of course, Obama has to regurgitate the GOP lie that raising any taxes (which is a lie. He’d only be restoring previous permanent tax rates) during a recession would inhibit economic growth.

    So, we’ll likely be taking the reactive, second option and watch our country and our society slowly but inevitably collapse before our eyes. We’ll see the police state become stronger, we’ll see poverty blossom, and we’ll see massive human suffering like we’ve never seen before.

    Why? Because all we are is a species of organisms set against a changing environment to which we cannot effectively adapt. Like 99% of all of the organisms EVER to have existed on this planet, we, too, are slated for extinction if we cannot effectively use our ability to adapt and change. Who knows? We may simply not have it in our DNA to make the changes necessary to survive in an environment that WE caused to change so rapidly.

    In any event, I’ll be looking forward to reading more of Hedges. It’s still possible that his warnings, and the warnings of others, will be heard by those who need to hear it.

  • Anonymous

    you clearly are the one that doesn’t get it! You live in opposite world! McConnel, Boner and Bachmann are destroying America!

  • 1shivers

    change we can believe in….right. no president today can be anything but a corporate marionette

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BRMB72ZP2RJOLLP2453BXL6VFM Derek Herrick

    As hyperbolic as it may sound, we’re quickly headed for a society built on slaves and slaveowners, however that appearance may be glossed over or concealed. Our politicians have sold us out to the Corporatocracy in exchange for campaign contributions, allowing the donors to write legislation that increasingly kettles the lower classes and makes them helpless. The only way to stop this free fall is to destroy our existing system, which would be, for the greater part, suicidal, given our current dependance on non-local resources and the softening and ignorance that has been induced in the general population. It appears that we’re fucked (as a country) no matter what we do, though small, isolated pockets of the countryside may thrive. Invest in canned food and shotguns, as hard times are coming.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Valentine/1277133078 Michael Valentine

    A MIC puppet.

  • Anonymous

    Raw don’t play this too. We are at the Rubicon now. This isn’t the fall of Empire it’s the start.

    Cesar now stands on the banks of the Rubicon. Now, looking across at Rome in all it’s stench.

    Until now the legions had not been allowed beyond this point. Oh sure he’s a good man. But he knows the Senate has rotted. And he has had to kill good men to cross this far.

    What will he do. Destroy the constitution that forged the Republic. March the Legions into the city? No, people forget the triumvirate.

    It wasn’t just One man who crossed that river, and it’s one that no longer exists.

  • Anonymous

    President Gaius Obama

  • Anonymous

    President Gaius Obama

  • Anonymous

    After the fall, there was a 1000 years of darkness and regression. So my point was that if the US “empire” falls, the world will NOT be better off.

  • Anonymous

    After the fall, there was a 1000 years of darkness and regression. So my point was that if the US “empire” falls, the world will NOT be better off.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah see, can’t write the monkey off yet I tell you.

    It is troubling, even more so when no one else gets it. Are you sure you are a monkey?

    Fundamental flaw in all these systems is “If you accept that the dollar is based fundamentally on the good faith”… cause we don’t work on good faith we work on buyer be ware I will shoot you if I can.

    Wars of ideas… you’re so sly.

    These little monkeys, they stayed out of most of the fights reading bark and shit, your gotta keep your eyes on them.

    Psst I think you little monkeys might be the ones evolving, but don’t tell the Apes I said that, they are convinced it’s them and they like to break things.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah see, can’t write the monkey off yet I tell you.

    It is troubling, even more so when no one else gets it. Are you sure you are a monkey?

    Fundamental flaw in all these systems is “If you accept that the dollar is based fundamentally on the good faith”… cause we don’t work on good faith we work on buyer be ware I will shoot you if I can.

    Wars of ideas… you’re so sly.

    These little monkeys, they stayed out of most of the fights reading bark and shit, your gotta keep your eyes on them.

    Psst I think you little monkeys might be the ones evolving, but don’t tell the Apes I said that, they are convinced it’s them and they like to break things.

  • Anonymous

    Nice try with the logical solutions pal. But no, endless war will be the plan.

  • Anonymous

    Nice try with the logical solutions pal. But no, endless war will be the plan.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah,
    a general strike w/b much better, but that takes strong unions in agreement. A way through IT is available, but the will isn’t there. Our unions are weak thanks to Reagan’s dumping of the control tower union and time’s passage on others. Union leaders here know how weak they are and never talk about strikes (to cushy?).

  • Anonymous

    Yeah,
    a general strike w/b much better, but that takes strong unions in agreement. A way through IT is available, but the will isn’t there. Our unions are weak thanks to Reagan’s dumping of the control tower union and time’s passage on others. Union leaders here know how weak they are and never talk about strikes (to cushy?).

  • Anonymous

    Fine you said please.

    Oh oh I think I saw world government. I put my blinders on and deny we have to actually all come together if we want a solution that’s not based on mass murder. Horde my gold and make more bombs. “I read enough”.

    It’s past reading time!

  • Anonymous

    Fine you said please.

    Oh oh I think I saw world government. I put my blinders on and deny we have to actually all come together if we want a solution that’s not based on mass murder. Horde my gold and make more bombs. “I read enough”.

    It’s past reading time!

  • Anonymous

    The larger the number the more predictable the result.

  • Anonymous

    The larger the number the more predictable the result.

  • http://twitter.com/johnnyfern johnnyfern
  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeff-Curtis/1560308551 Jeff Curtis

    The stunning size and scope of the wealth transfer from the middle class to the uber class (and then much of it to offshore somewhere…) is only slowly starting to dawn on only some of the people, but just as the malfeasance which led us into an unnecessary war in Iraq has largely gone ignored by the mainstream media (and thus the public), this parallel empire-killing crime will go unreported and unpunished and finally erased from history altogether unless we find a way to propel it into the public eye. It’s time for liberals to shed politeness and patience and ring the alarm like Paul Revere; we are truly at a wake-up-fast-or-die moment in history, yet the mainstream media is afraid to direct attention towards stories which make money nervous — every such small act of cowardice and subservience now is highly-leveraged towards the doom of this struggling, senescent giant. Rise up. Get in people’s faces. Write editors. Give to liberal causes — especially the ones who focus on getting the truth out.

  • Anonymous

    hehe people confuse fall of republic with fall of empire because it’s more profitable.

    Empire is what happened when Rome spent all it’s good will and money and needed blood to wash the shit away. Everyone from everywhere wants American empire now.

    And war begins tomorrow. Or next week or whenever the shit is ready.

    Like Come the fuck on people. What do you think happens with all those hangers full of planes and bombs when someone is stupid enough to finally say enough is enough this check is no good.

    BOOOM what did you say bitch is going to be our response and that’s the day we cross that river. BOOM BOOM BOOM same reason same lie since the day the lady in red died.

    Bad math and lies.

  • Anonymous

    haha you fucking myth buster you haha.

    hahaha

    Shh let them eat cake we poisoned it.

  • Ron

    The British Empire collapsed, too, and not with particular violence. We could be the Roman Empire or the British Empire collapsing. I’m thinking we’re more of the Roman variety, given the vitriol of our public discourse.

    Probably civil war within 40 years.

  • Anonymous

    Ah the corrupt world? It revels in it’s own vomit. Propaganda you’re as dirty filthy and full of shit as I am. Lying fucking monkey.

  • Anonymous

    And if we don’t have a good law to fuck you we will draft one.

  • Anonymous

    Fucking dolt.

  • Anonymous

    You are both right, how fucking weird.

  • Anonymous

    “The Ottoman Empire … was an empire that lasted from 1299 to 1923.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Empire

  • Anonymous

    getting arrested outside wh…
    Obama Notes Progress in Afghanistan as White House Picketed
    President Barack Obama says the strategy of the United States and its partners in Afghanistan is making progress in lessening the powers of al Qaeda and the Taliban. It’s a goal he says the US military and coalition forces are achieving. http://www.newslook.com/videos/275668-obama-notes-progress-in-afghanistan-as-white-house-picketed?autoplay=true

  • Anonymous

    If I were in charge of leaking, I would leak a little bit at a time -always anonymously. Too much would cause confusion and could be buried by mainstream media, disinformation sources, & the usual suspects. Dripping also would allow the wide-spread dissemination of each piece and eventually, going global, would result in greater press coverage and awareness. Note that UK, US, Germany, etc were all given information at the same time. –competition!!! That insures the information will get out.

    I would also be very careful to drip information from widespread areas of the globe and keep the outlets so random to slow the tracking of the information back to the source. If this is indeed true, if someone or a group can pull off this precise operation and get the information into the public awareness, it speaks volumes to the integrity of the mission.

  • Stephen Martin

    We had a figurative house already drop on our head with the real estate bubble, sham loans made to the impressionable. We were lead in Iraq under false pretense which was masquarading as “intelligence”. Pressed into a “hurry up and do it” vote on the first failout (bailout). And now a “hurry up and do it” made tax cuts for the rich thank God for trickle up. This is turning into a slow motion disaster movie, except it’s reality. Hate to be this negative, but there are so many things not adding up right now. It defies rational judgement. The mainstream media and MOST (but not all) it’s associates are tools. Look outside of the US for the truth. We’re just not getting it here because no one wants to lose their sponsors. Support PBS. They’ll take that down (or try to) just like George Bush attempted to do.

    I think they have no clue what a hole they are digging themselves into. People will only be able to take so much.

  • Anonymous

    They have also preserved the truth forever. While masters sword was held to their back.

    It’s not just the magic of the understand, capturing and mastery of light and the way it penetrates and bounces inside the skin that made those old painters sculpters masters.

    They are masters because they slipped the truth into the work while Papal eyes watched.

    We don’t teach that to business students.

    In some cases it was a generation of stupid priests who had to look at it before they decided to higher less skilled artists to cover up the truths painted… hehehe

    It’s a scam we fooled them. They pay us to spread their lies and in them we hide the truth. They screwed us so we screwed them… Just we hoped for more humans by now.

  • Anonymous

    All roads lead to nowhere Alaska.

  • Anonymous

    Class war isn’t what he’s talking about.

  • Anonymous

    Stop.

    Drop.

    Roll.

    Repeat.

  • Anonymous

    The first modern state propaganda machine that I would consider the archetype for today-o-rama is Germany of France Pre-WW2. The guys who built it would agree.

    It worked really good because by the onset of war no one in France trusted any one in France. And most of them didn’t trust anyone outside France either. Pretty flawless actually. Pretty well documented too.

    Rinse and repeat.

  • Anonymous

    Hi TBM, geez, you’re certainly a blunt, insulting guy. Maybe you can disagree with a little more tact?

    “Fight” doesn’t mean duke it out with the fuzz, a guaranteed failure method; it means, as in the 60s, being part of huge crowds that by volume make a statement. It has to be done over and over in major cities to get media coverage and make an impact.
    Having many leaders and a big unit involved like moveon.org, among others, assures notice.

    It obviously is best to keep anarchists out and away from honest, permitted protests. We’d work with the fuzz to a point. Many lawyers would volunteer services. It all takes careful planning; all of it it has been done before. You might enjoy reading about the 60s and what that era accomplished.

    Sure the FBI and other fuzz freaks would circulate around, take pics, etc. But permitted, non-violent protests are all we have to call attention to our state of affairs. Local fuzz would not stop events unless the friggin’ anarchists showed up, which w/b discussed with the fuzz. Leaders of our legit protests would try to work with the anarchists, e.g., separate the protests, agree on tactics, discuss purpose. This also happened in the 60s.

    I assure you the wonderful protest this AM at the White House was pre-arranged with the authorities. It was perfect; no violence, no protesters beaten senseless. No counter-protesters. And the media was there.

    The key is being locally organized (no national “conspiracy’) and doing it legally. There is nothing else that could possibly work. People simply have to commit to this form of positioning. It’s a little heady for some, but throughout history people have stood up for good over evil.

    Many Americans are lazy and spoiled and don’t care about anyone or anything beyond their own tiny world. If they’re allowed to rule this country then, indeed, we’re done as a fair society.

    Bottom line: there’s no way to face down or beat today’s law enforcement cadres. But cooperating with them can work. Cops are people, too, and experience great fear facing a large crowd. Legal marches and demos can work if people will just get off their butts and these blogs.

  • Anonymous

    Truth!!! What part of fuck truth do you expect dickwad to change his position on?

  • Anonymous

    OK, here is where reading comes in again.

    The entry is

    Mostly harmless.

    Don’t forget your towel.

  • http://mywikileaks.wordpress.com/ pekasus

    By now, the Trickle Up economics of this country are clear even to my conservative family. I think this latest spate of news, from banks getting rich, Wall Street with record profits, Republicans only concerned about the wealthy, and Obama caving in to them….all of this is finally sinking in. Even conservatives know this is reckless behavior.

    I hold onto the hope that we will pull this off…bring power back from the corporations to the people…after all, as Michael Moore showed in Capitalism…the idea of Democracy is in our Constitution…Capitalism is not written there once.

  • Anonymous

    No one is figuring anything out. I am sorry about all the Bacon.

  • Anonymous

    Amazing how knowing some guy who actually moves the shit liars talk about moving clears all that up so easy isn’t it.

  • Anonymous

    can you stop hawking your one-world government link? thanks.

  • Anonymous

    Just eat gold, cut out the middle man.

  • Anonymous

    Haha, fucking truth is a bitch. That’s right. When your baby is in the house hiding behind your wife while the city burns and the zombies are coming. There scream will turn you into a killing monster.

    The beast within aint to far below even if you never met him. That’s right and no one with a brain thinks this ends easy with all those bombs and missiles bought and paid for.

  • http://mywikileaks.wordpress.com/ pekasus

    I disagree with this assessment for one reason…Corporations cannot govern. Mega-Corporations today have grown to rely on huge government handouts to them, as small businesses cannot compete with the likes of GE and Boeing to get some of that multi-trillion dollar defense budget. If the government goes bankrupt, the easy money won’t be there anymore, and I suspect many large corporations will go belly up. As net recipients of tax money, large corporations will have to restructure their business models if government stops handing out money…and actually makes them pay their taxes rather than hide it in offshore “ventures” (even Google is guilty of this, unfortunately)

    Even if not directly taking tax dollars, companies like Wal-Mart have grown dependent on taxpayer subsidized industries, like cheap (subsidized) oil to transport their junk from China, and cheap junk food made with subsidized corn syrup.

    The companies that can live without major spending in Washington are the small businesses who don’t have the connections to get their hands on taxpayer’s money.

    I do think the American Empire is in decline, but I actually think, as long as we can keep an open society and we have more people like Julian Assange telling the truth…we can emerge as a stronger and more just nation.

    We are not the Soviet Union, and we don’t have a physical wall to break down…we only have a figurative wall built around the truth…

  • Anonymous

    I decided to have more than 2 kids after I’d already earned two environmental degrees, so I think I understand those issues well enough. What doesn’t make sense to me is your apparent idea that a good person born with (older?) siblings is of less value than one without.

    “There’s a reason that as education rises the number of children a woman has declines.”

    Yes, and as I recall from my “Population Problems” class some 20 years ago, it’s chiefly because pursuing education and careers leaves much less time for parenting, which become postponed, reducing the number of years a woman might get pregnant. If education is influenced by intelligence, and intelligence is to some degree passed on in families (i.e. by heredity or instruction), then we as a species are gradually losing our intelligence by sacrificing parenting for education. It’s out of balance. More specifically, intelligence will become concentrated in the same way wealth is concentrated today.

  • Anonymous

    There is more than one way to skin a cat, fight a war or murder a population.

    Oh and don’t for a second think the sickest thing the sickest dude on the planet ever thought out hasn’t had someone draw up a plan and add up the budget for execution by now.

    If you can imagine it, someone else can imagine it and get a boner.

  • Hologram5

    Dude, garbled post. Not sure whether you are serious or being facetious. What is it?

  • Anonymous

    We still have us.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah watching pallets is a good indicator of the economy. Cause it’s real, not what some dude selling watches says is real.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah watching pallets is a good indicator of the economy. Cause it’s real, not what some dude selling watches says is real.

  • Anonymous

    I read Pulitzer Winner as

    Wurlitzer Pinner.

    Dyslexia can be very precise in its meaning.

  • Anonymous

    I read Pulitzer Winner as

    Wurlitzer Pinner.

    Dyslexia can be very precise in its meaning.

  • Anonymous

    Those “social welfare programs” keep a few million from banging in your door at night to kill you and raid your fridge. Unless you live underground somewhere, you DO benefit from a society that uses social programs to prevent mass abject poverty and starvation. You also seem to ignore Homeland Security beefing up their police state efforts. You WILL NOT be able to do “anything you wanted”, instead the US is being made into a corporate plantation, and you will be forced to do or not do what is most profitable to your new feudal overlords. Don’t believe me? Go ask the folks in the Gulf how the oil spill (still being secretly sprayed) is going, or better yet, go try and get a water sample yourself and see what Homeland Security says about it..

  • Anonymous

    Those “social welfare programs” keep a few million from banging in your door at night to kill you and raid your fridge. Unless you live underground somewhere, you DO benefit from a society that uses social programs to prevent mass abject poverty and starvation. You also seem to ignore Homeland Security beefing up their police state efforts. You WILL NOT be able to do “anything you wanted”, instead the US is being made into a corporate plantation, and you will be forced to do or not do what is most profitable to your new feudal overlords. Don’t believe me? Go ask the folks in the Gulf how the oil spill (still being secretly sprayed) is going, or better yet, go try and get a water sample yourself and see what Homeland Security says about it..

  • Hologram5

    Gotcha, thanks for the clarify, happy holidays!

  • Hologram5

    Gotcha, thanks for the clarify, happy holidays!

  • Anonymous

    Well Im guessing the democracy experiment is over. We need to all mourn our soon to be lost freedoms. I for one will die a free man, Im afraid I shall never see old age.

  • Hogan Slothrop

    When a country obtains great power,
    it becomes like the sea:
    all streams run downward into it.
    The more powerful it grows,
    the greater the need for humility.
    Humility means trusting the Tao,
    thus never needing to be defensive.

    A great nation is like a great man:
    When he makes a mistake, he realizes it.
    Having realized it, he admits it.
    Having admitted it, he corrects it.
    He considers those who point out his faults
    as his most benevolent teachers.
    He thinks of his enemy
    as the shadow that he himself casts.

    If a nation is centered in the Tao,
    if it nourishes its own people
    and doesn’t meddle in the affairs of others,
    it will be a light to all nations in the world.

    –Lao Tzu

    The light has been snuffed out in America.

  • Anonymous

    Haha, true. By what kind of idiot would let all of that rot, yet keep billions of miles unused rail lines intact. And build airports and roads everywhere? It’s crazy, until you look at it from the air.

    It’s what killed the Russians in WW1. We learned. We’ve always learned. It’s not that it’s stupidity. It’s something else entirely. Written on every cap and every corner stone every laid in this nation by it’s money.

    Logistical supply lines for an army. Who cares about the masses, we gonna be moving soldiers asses.

    Because that’s not the real score card, cause it was never the real plan

    Here it is though :). You knew I wouldn’t disappoint.
    Thermonuclear fricken warfare.

    http://www.globalfirepower.com/

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QTVISVGIIB6ENQGIENKIDRL55A Bri Jordan

    Yeah we (America) are screwed but so are the rest of the western nations. Only difference is that we still have a large Christian base. So while we will collapse, we will come back and still be a sovereign nation. Rest of the world, not so much.

    Go ahead and blame on the wars, blame it on our greedy corporations, blame it on oil, blame it on Bush. But it is none of those that is causing a collapse of the west. It is the acceptance of progressive policies, large government, and the idea that the rich should pay for everyone that is causing our collapse.

    The American people are still one of a kind. We may fall but you can’t stop us. The rest of the west is filled with just a bunch of jealous chumps. Get over it, we don’t owe you ****!

  • Anonymous

    “I’m saying the lower and middle class in America are powerless. I’m saying in specific the urban American lower class are the most powerles”

    dead wrong. Asymmetrical resistance is most likely to come from exactly those two groups, and most likely to be successful if they actually do it. Unorganized mass resistance across major urban centers will force either a heavy handed violent crackdown by the government (which will also militarize the resistance, the ones you call “powerless”), or a breakdown of the forces of the prompted the resistance.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J2BKVG44GLNRGIAYKD7UO4O27E Arthur Young

    The Universe is indifferent-Don Draper…..a character in Madmen

    The World will continue as long as it keeps rotating. Yes 1,000 years of darkness is terrible, the trashing of Art the ascendancy of warped religious control ( crusades, witch burnings, and the stifling of science, and control of all education ) but this seems to be the evolution of human society…it builds towards superiority and at the end becomes so enamored of it’s corruption that it over reaches and comes apart at the seams. Some things are learned, but perfection is unattainable and when we think that we are the center of the universe we play our losing hand of the game.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t support the spoon feeding of y’all padding my year end bonus by calling it a holiday I got spread sheets and taxes, but if you say so.

    Oh look shiny guns. Now that’s a Christmas investment.

  • http://harry-canary.myopenid.com/ Harry Canary

    And you are Ms. Douche.

  • Anonymous

    When will you ever wake up..
    Never..

  • Hologram5

    I hear ya and got one of them for a present this year so I’m pretty happy. Got a mossberg 1100 pump with a pistol grip. Riot ready, here I come!

  • http://harry-canary.myopenid.com/ Harry Canary

    Probably to November 22, 1963.

  • Anonymous

    Your assessment may be correct. The USA is not comparable to the Soviet Union; the USSR was a hollow shell populated by a lost and broken people.

    Likewise, comparisons to the Roman Empire are not particularly accurate. The Germans who invaded the Western Empire established a number of kingdoms that maintained the Roman laws and economies. Many of the Germanic rulers adopted the ways and means of the Romans, and life went on, though without the glory. The Dark Ages did not set in till after the trade routes with the East were eliminated by the Islamic invasions of the Middle East and North Africa. Western Europe, isolated, began to crumble and fall into that centuries long darkness.

  • http://harry-canary.myopenid.com/ Harry Canary

    In 1984 a plastic movie actor named ronnie was playing president. Orwell was not too far off.

  • Anonymous

    But would the world have been better off if Rome had managed to hang onto its empire? It would have had to be even more brutal and militaristic, and everybody called “citizen” could have been drafted to work in the fields just to eat. Maybe what we should be talking about, is not how to avoid the fall but how to shorten the coming interregnum.

  • Anonymous

    ….

  • Anonymous

    :) I don’t own guns or keep them. I prefer to sell them to people who will kill for me.

    It’s a good gig. I like to call it the global economy.

  • Anonymous

    Exactly. That was the most bizarre, left-field rant I’ve read in a while. The street gangs and mafia would be the ones to SUPPLY the guns to those poor urban and middle class people in a mass civil uprising. They definitely wouldn’t be the leaders of it. I guess thatbostonman thinks they – gangs that engage in criminal acts for personal profit – would duke it out with Homeland Security on principle. Yea right. Those guys will be the first to either become suppliers in a revolution, to profit from it, or take a payout from the oppressive government and become warlords over a designated area, and profit from it.

  • Anonymous

    the depth of your inability to comprehend what is taking place is astonishing. go with what you know. Don’t worry be happy. Your type will be the first to take to the streets and fight the enemy that the media points you towards. Traveled much in your life Davey? Maybe all our money is under a mattress somewhere and when it is found everything will be just wonderful again. do you really use the word Yarn in your daily dialog,,,,

  • Anonymous

    Xenophobe.

  • Anonymous

    ……

  • Anonymous

    In the excellent book Democracy and Capitalism by Bowles and Gintis they make the point that Democracy and capitalism are not compatible. It’s a great read, although very dry and written more like a text book. Still, worth reading.

  • Anonymous

    Reference yrbmer below, “Probably civil war within 40 years.” ……TRY MONTHS!!!!!!

    Again, the major component of the corporate coup d’état occurred on September 11, 2001.

    Wake Up……it’s all been racing forward since THAT day. The Fake Wars….The Torture…..The Spying on US…..TSA & Homeland Security / The Patriot Act…..Wall Street Plundering the World……and on…..and on…..and on.

    We MUST have an independent investigation into what happened on that day….in order to save our Country.

    Any idiot who knows just slightly more than what they were told by the Government and their Media lapdogs about that day, starts to quickly understand that exposing that fraud is our only hope to stop this new hellish world from proceeding any further.

    Learn about 9/11………Support http://buildingwhat.org/

    INVESTIGATE 9/11 NOW

    It’s time for the whole world to stand up and help Americans save our freedom and constitution.

    And by the way, CORPORATIONS ARE NOT PEOPLE……..AND DO NOT HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS…….like the corporate owned / controlled U. S. Supreme Court crazily tries to tell us.

  • Anonymous

    I’m guessing they find that out pretty quick. Along with learning what they must and must not do.

  • Hologram5

    Oh yeah, kind of like that Nick Cage movie. What was it? Something about war…
    Ok, well, anyways, how about just, You have a good one huh?

  • Anonymous

    China is full of murderous lies and bullshit too. Iching was written with out punctuation… Haha if you know anything about bullshit you know exactly what that means… Never was a good man period.

    Mudering kings, lying scholars, who employed your Vernerable lingual artist?

    The stream only works when the monkey don’t touch it HAHA MORE LIES.

  • Anonymous

    Here’s a great video on what’s about to happen in the economy and why,
    You’ll also learn how to profit from the crisis.
    Video goes off the internet Sunday night, so check it out now..
    http://www.wakingupamerica.com/theelevationgroup

  • Anonymous

    Greedy and power will corrupt and destroy everything… All one has to do in look around.
    These so-called religious Christians have become worst then the people they try to condemn.
    Most do not have the slightest clue what they are talking about and what the bible or the teaching of Jesus says or is all about.
    The religious RICH fanatical leaders which have cropped up all over ,, have them brainwashed so bad they are unable to function or think or their own.
    Most of these right wing religious leaders have make millions if not billions by suckering these chimps into their flock of sheep

  • Anonymous

    Death squads are nothing new. They’ve also been around longer than a century. Who’s more likely to get taken out: that italian mafia member who the FBI probably already has a long file on who’s decided to become a revolutionary,or some middle or lower class “subversive” who is part of a few hundred thousand in the same city or a few million across the country. The fear of the CIA’s killing prowess isn’t going to matter much to people that are destitute and angry, especially when they seem themselves as part of a larger movement.

  • Anonymous

    The defeatists are usually the first to jump out the window.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeff-Curtis/1560308551 Jeff Curtis

    …bro, just curious, do you believe in evolution?

  • Anonymous

    Tear it down, so it can be built back up. Stop tolerating all the fakes, the zealots, the hateful, the misinformers.

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    And thats exactly why the government is killing them and locking them up in prison. They know that too and thats why these laws are stacked. Thats why they are spending so much money.

    The violent crack down has been happening non stop from the 1960s all the way to the present which is why you have so many prisoners and so many young people dying.

    The so “resistance” militarized in the 1970s and 1980s when they formed gangs. They armed themselves with uzi’s and machine guns, and the government cracked down on gangs and gun violence as a result further creating tensions.

    At this point all the resisters have been put in prison or are dead, at least the urban resisters. The only ones left are the loudmouths in the “safe” suburbs who were complaining about gang violence in the 80s and 90s, who sat back when the LA riots happened, who advocate for gun control in 2000, and who now claim to be anti war Julian Assange supporters.

    These types of people are whats left of the resistance subversive movement and they are truly powerless. I’m not saying street gangs were the most organized resistance, but that was the attempt at resistance. Those gang members like MS13, the Bikers, the Skinheads, the bloods and crips, including drug kingpins. These are the ones who resisted and all that happened is the FBI cracked down on them while liberals turned informants against them helping to lock them up, snitching on them, etc.

    So now theres the “stop snitching” movement and liberals are again speaking out saying it’s okay to snitch and it’s okay to be an informant. So which is it? Do you want to advocate informing and support informants or do you want to be a gangster subversive in which case you wont be informing, you’ll be doing the dirty work.

    If you think you can just sit back and talk about it and win respect you are wrong. That being said I’m not advocating any revolutionary action, I’m just saying talk is cheap. If you want a revolution then you have to accept that you are the “terrorist” that the government was talking about with the war on “terror”.

    You have to understand that the government has already pre-emptively declared war on you and has already started locking up and killing your kind. If you choose not to surrender and choose to fight then you have to understand that all those satellites in space, all those drones, all the troops in the military, CIA, NSA, FBi, all kinds of Patriotic vigilante groups, including rival gangs, mafias, and mercenaries will be hunting you down.

    In war you wont know who is with the government and who is with the revolution, Your best friend could be the assassin paid by the government to kill you. Your family members could be informing on you. They could be drugging and poisoning you. If you want to live that sort of life go ahead but I certainly don’t want to live the life of a terrorist if I have a choice.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeff-Curtis/1560308551 Jeff Curtis

    I very much hope you’re right. It could go either way, but without some kind of *big* awakening and pushback from the people, the forces of power, greed and wealth have this game pretty much sewn up. In the interest of simple messages (harder to come by for liberal causes than for the more simple, greed/fear/hate/tribalistic types), I can heartily recommend, “Corporations are not People/Money is not Speech” — might even make a few teabaggers stop and think.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeff-Curtis/1560308551 Jeff Curtis

    …right on bro, you have it nailed here.

  • http://mywikileaks.wordpress.com/ pekasus

    The interesting thing about Rome is that, even to this day, many of the most powerful nations in the world speak dialects of Latin. This means that, even though they fell from power, no other power has been able to supplant the language, and much of our government today is based on ancient Rome (the US even has a ‘Senate’).

    What does it mean if the American Empire falls? Will we stop using the internet, or eating cheeseburgers, or worshiping Michael Jackson? I don’t think so. Countries may decide to keep other money in their vaults, but in reality, the collapse of the American Empire will likely have a positive effect on us. We may be able to pay our own bills, and even invest in our own infrastructure!

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    This isn’t the 1800s, or 1700s. They didn’t have satellites back then. They didn’t even have a spy agency back then. Back then there wasn’t gun control, anybody could get a gun and back then governments didn’t have the power advantage they have now.

    Does your resistance army have a satellite in space? Do you have any way to knock the satellites out of orbit? If you don’t then you can’t even launch an attack because the US government can see your movements from space and vigilantes and assassins can watch your house from Google earth. To think you can walk out of your suburban home and bring your pitchforks/guns to the whitehouse and call it a revolution, are you RETARDED?! Are you ALL THAT GODDAMN RETARDED?

  • http://mywikileaks.wordpress.com/ pekasus

    But is it that Capitalism can’t coexist with Democracy, or just our version of it?

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    The point is you and your resistance do not have a death squad or intelligence agency. So you don’t even have the ability to determine who the mercenaries and assassins on the governments side are.

    But of course the government knows who you are because you registered for ID and all that. They know where you live. They know what you look like. They know every goddamn thing about you so you have no chance to resist.

    Face it, you can’t resist. You can have fantasies about it, you can think about it, but you know it’s not a realistic possibility. Thats why you went to college instead of become a gang banger.

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    I know real life. The pitchfork revolutionaries are the ones who watch too many movies.

    If you think you are going to buy your registered gun and then go to launch your attack and that you wont be stopped, you are out of you goddamn mind. In fact you are as stupid as school shooters and Al Qaeda.

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    It didn’t work in the 60s and it wont work now. If you want to waste your life on being an activist go ahead.

    If you want to start being effective start by forming a PAC, and by forming legally defined family associations. There you go I just gave you the single most effective means of protesting. You’re welcome.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IGTSK6TT6SYINIVW5RM5ALA27M sick of it all

    You and your t-shirt are gross

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IGTSK6TT6SYINIVW5RM5ALA27M sick of it all

    You and your t-shirt are gross

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IGTSK6TT6SYINIVW5RM5ALA27M sick of it all

    You and your t-shirt are gross

  • Anonymous

    There is no United States. Corporations (thanks in part to Citizens United) own all of us outright. We have over 300 foreign bases, no universal healthcare, we can’t protect our own borders and give tax cuts to the rich. We have one of the worst educational systems compared to other advanced countries and the GOP wants no Estate taxes on the uber wealthy. If given half a chance the GOP House will destroy what is left of Social Security and we will be stupid enough to believe it is good for us. We get what we deserve.

  • Anonymous

    There is no United States. Corporations (thanks in part to Citizens United) own all of us outright. We have over 300 foreign bases, no universal healthcare, we can’t protect our own borders and give tax cuts to the rich. We have one of the worst educational systems compared to other advanced countries and the GOP wants no Estate taxes on the uber wealthy. If given half a chance the GOP House will destroy what is left of Social Security and we will be stupid enough to believe it is good for us. We get what we deserve.

  • Anonymous

    There is no United States. Corporations (thanks in part to Citizens United) own all of us outright. We have over 300 foreign bases, no universal healthcare, we can’t protect our own borders and give tax cuts to the rich. We have one of the worst educational systems compared to other advanced countries and the GOP wants no Estate taxes on the uber wealthy. If given half a chance the GOP House will destroy what is left of Social Security and we will be stupid enough to believe it is good for us. We get what we deserve.

  • http://twitter.com/Michael_Gaston Michael Gaston

    No, please do not tear it down. That is chaos. The need is to fix what already exists; we the people need to become an informed and active citizenry. Yes, the fakes, zealots, the hateful, and agents of misinformation need to be exposed of their corporate sponsorship. It is not about liberal or conservative; it is about democracy.

  • http://twitter.com/Michael_Gaston Michael Gaston

    No, please do not tear it down. That is chaos. The need is to fix what already exists; we the people need to become an informed and active citizenry. Yes, the fakes, zealots, the hateful, and agents of misinformation need to be exposed of their corporate sponsorship. It is not about liberal or conservative; it is about democracy.

  • http://twitter.com/Michael_Gaston Michael Gaston

    No, please do not tear it down. That is chaos. The need is to fix what already exists; we the people need to become an informed and active citizenry. Yes, the fakes, zealots, the hateful, and agents of misinformation need to be exposed of their corporate sponsorship. It is not about liberal or conservative; it is about democracy.

  • http://twitter.com/Saje3D Saje Williams

    Ah, delusion. Is it true that ignorance is bliss?

  • http://twitter.com/Saje3D Saje Williams

    Ah, delusion. Is it true that ignorance is bliss?

  • http://twitter.com/Saje3D Saje Williams

    Ah, delusion. Is it true that ignorance is bliss?

  • http://twitter.com/Michael_Gaston Michael Gaston

    United States of America does exist. The only requirement to bring American democracy to a promising future is this; all must think for themselves. The media is not our friend. Apathy will only give tacit approval to the corporate hijacking of democracy.

  • http://twitter.com/Michael_Gaston Michael Gaston

    United States of America does exist. The only requirement to bring American democracy to a promising future is this; all must think for themselves. The media is not our friend. Apathy will only give tacit approval to the corporate hijacking of democracy.

  • http://twitter.com/Michael_Gaston Michael Gaston

    United States of America does exist. The only requirement to bring American democracy to a promising future is this; all must think for themselves. The media is not our friend. Apathy will only give tacit approval to the corporate hijacking of democracy.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IGTSK6TT6SYINIVW5RM5ALA27M sick of it all

    Nimrod tried to create a one world government, it didn’t work, God wasn’t pleased and scattered them and caused them to speak in different languages. Now, if man tries it again, God still is not going to be pleased. He predicts that the antichrist will control this world government for a short time, until the Lord comes back to stop him, and before all mankind is annihilated. Read Revelations

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IGTSK6TT6SYINIVW5RM5ALA27M sick of it all

    Nimrod tried to create a one world government, it didn’t work, God wasn’t pleased and scattered them and caused them to speak in different languages. Now, if man tries it again, God still is not going to be pleased. He predicts that the antichrist will control this world government for a short time, until the Lord comes back to stop him, and before all mankind is annihilated. Read Revelations

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IGTSK6TT6SYINIVW5RM5ALA27M sick of it all

    Nimrod tried to create a one world government, it didn’t work, God wasn’t pleased and scattered them and caused them to speak in different languages. Now, if man tries it again, God still is not going to be pleased. He predicts that the antichrist will control this world government for a short time, until the Lord comes back to stop him, and before all mankind is annihilated. Read Revelations

  • http://twitter.com/Saje3D Saje Williams

    Humans are full of murderous lies and bullshit. Always have been. But lights of wisdom can come from anywhere… from the teachings of the Natives to the words of the Founding Fathers to the French and Greek philosophers. Some of us actually do as Bruce Lee suggested. “Absorb what is useful, discard the rest.”

  • http://twitter.com/Saje3D Saje Williams

    Humans are full of murderous lies and bullshit. Always have been. But lights of wisdom can come from anywhere… from the teachings of the Natives to the words of the Founding Fathers to the French and Greek philosophers. Some of us actually do as Bruce Lee suggested. “Absorb what is useful, discard the rest.”

  • http://twitter.com/Saje3D Saje Williams

    Humans are full of murderous lies and bullshit. Always have been. But lights of wisdom can come from anywhere… from the teachings of the Natives to the words of the Founding Fathers to the French and Greek philosophers. Some of us actually do as Bruce Lee suggested. “Absorb what is useful, discard the rest.”

  • http://twitter.com/Saje3D Saje Williams

    I think that once more and more people can no longer afford their “bread and circuses,” (cable TV in particular) there might be BIG push back. If you can’t distract them 24/7, they might have a chance to look around and see the real world for a change.

  • http://twitter.com/Saje3D Saje Williams

    I think that once more and more people can no longer afford their “bread and circuses,” (cable TV in particular) there might be BIG push back. If you can’t distract them 24/7, they might have a chance to look around and see the real world for a change.

  • http://twitter.com/Saje3D Saje Williams

    I think that once more and more people can no longer afford their “bread and circuses,” (cable TV in particular) there might be BIG push back. If you can’t distract them 24/7, they might have a chance to look around and see the real world for a change.

  • Anonymous

    Revelation talks about Babylon the Great its the world empire of false religion, it has been judged by God and will be destroyed. 2nd Thess. talks about the man of lawlessness, this is apostate Christianity, the most disgusting facet of Babylon. Very shorlty we will see this happen, the UN will take this in hand, our civil liberties will be a thing of the past.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3ETFGMQ3B7VD4AAMILBBEVMCWE JasonA

    It was discussed on NPR today that the MEDIAN income of US House members is: $986,000 per year. And a US Senator’s MEDIAN income is $2.5 million. These theives are representing their own interests and that of their corporate handlers.

    Chris Hedges is exactly on target.

  • Anonymous

    It’s true haha, well sort of. Them old dudes knew what I know. Long before that other ancient societies in Africa and Meso-America and The Indian Subcontinent did all the same things.

    And at least in india we still have a few of the old ANCIENT STORIES written on IRON TABLETS, not translations from liars who long since died.

    Oh stories so old some of the dudes actually still did kinda look like MONKEYS. Written in the OLDEST WRITTEN LANGUAGE KNOW BY MAN called Sanskrit.

    And they told tales of hundereds of great empires who all did the same shit old NIMROD the fucking SATURN WORSHIPER.

    And you all lied and ISLAM WAS THE PROTEST. BUT THEY LIED TOO.

    Yes I read that book. I said I have lots of friends who are Jews. I assumed YOU would assume since I consider them friends they are not also LIARS.

  • Anonymous

    READ YOUR BOOK TOO LOCKED IN A VAULT ASSHOLE WANNA READ IT AGAIN?

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3ETFGMQ3B7VD4AAMILBBEVMCWE JasonA

    Stuff your religion please.

  • Anonymous

    IN IRON

  • http://harry-canary.myopenid.com/ Harry Canary

    It cannot coexist with democracy without very strict controls. When left to its own devices it seeks to destroy competition and undermine democracy. It will destroy itself unless tightly regulated. This was the lesson of the depressions of the 1890′s, 1913, 1928, the reagan depression and todays disaster.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3ETFGMQ3B7VD4AAMILBBEVMCWE JasonA

    You tell em Saje Williams. Sumdumwhiteboy needs to expand his horizons, and get out of his recliner, assuming that is possible, read a history book. And please stop bragging about his personal wealth, assuming that is true which it proably is not.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3ETFGMQ3B7VD4AAMILBBEVMCWE JasonA

    Corporations are governing and making policy and law by proxy…. They own the US Congress who does this for them. Too bad you cannot see that.

  • Anonymous

    No point anyone stating the obvious, we all knew you where human when we saw that shirt.

  • Anonymous

    Aha I knew you wasn’t no Christian. All that hate isn’t Christian, true be told I’m sick of your bullshit. Your a fuckin Roman.

  • http://twitter.com/bobbyjoe1290 Jim Bob

    Start by getting rid of the acceptance of gay and lesbian people and the mentally ill transgendered and confused bisexuals. Then give credit to families where women have to stay at home and actually be parents, while the husbands go out and work. That would open up so many jobs! Get rid of this idea that we’re a flat economy. The US is nothing more than a services consuming country and our ability to produce has been stripped. Once our dollar goes to waste, and we can’t import anything anymore because no one will accept our dollars, what are we going to do then? The world hates us right now, and truthfully, I don’t blame them. Obama is a joke.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BRMB72ZP2RJOLLP2453BXL6VFM Derek Herrick

    Homophobic, misogynist troll.

  • Anonymous

    According to the authors capitalism has to do with economic privilege based on property rights vs democracy is all about liberty and democratic accountability based on exercise of personal rights. You can’t really have both at the same time.

  • Anonymous

    Apparently the answer was not obvious or the question would not have been asked.

    PS I’m glad you folks like my shirt

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TVO3MITUDKJFCNH2A4MNRHDB6Y Mary

    The day millions of unemployed are shut off from checks,and out in the streets screeming WE WANT JOBS. The end is near.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TVO3MITUDKJFCNH2A4MNRHDB6Y Mary

    The day millions of unemployed are shut off from checks,and out in the streets screeming WE WANT JOBS. The end is near.

  • Hogan Slothrop

    When you proclaim on your blog: “Let me just assure you, I am an asshole,” I must take you at your word. Clearly it’s the portion of anatomy from which issues what you have to offer. Good luck with that.

  • Hogan Slothrop

    When you proclaim on your blog: “Let me just assure you, I am an asshole,” I must take you at your word. Clearly it’s the portion of anatomy from which issues what you have to offer. Good luck with that.

  • Anonymous

    You are absolutely correct! I am a 50 something woman that bought in to the whole
    feminist ideal. The “capable, assertive, employable, do-it-all mom” that now realizes
    how unsatisfying that was. Now, with grandkids looking to start kindergarten I’m terrified
    for them to be exposed to alternative lifestyles at this tender age. What about innocence?

    I hope when the dollar collapses we go back to barter and industrious thought processes
    that made this country great. Folks ought to be figuring out what they know and have
    talent doing that will be marketable in their neighborhood.

  • Anonymous

    You are absolutely correct! I am a 50 something woman that bought in to the whole
    feminist ideal. The “capable, assertive, employable, do-it-all mom” that now realizes
    how unsatisfying that was. Now, with grandkids looking to start kindergarten I’m terrified
    for them to be exposed to alternative lifestyles at this tender age. What about innocence?

    I hope when the dollar collapses we go back to barter and industrious thought processes
    that made this country great. Folks ought to be figuring out what they know and have
    talent doing that will be marketable in their neighborhood.

  • http://twitter.com/bobbyjoe1290 Jim Bob

    That’s already happening. In a town nearby, 800 people showed up for a job that payed only $8.00 an hour. In the news recently, another town announced a janitorial job that paid $13.00 an hour, 900 people showed up for one opening. It’s getting worse by the day.

  • http://twitter.com/bobbyjoe1290 Jim Bob

    That’s already happening. In a town nearby, 800 people showed up for a job that payed only $8.00 an hour. In the news recently, another town announced a janitorial job that paid $13.00 an hour, 900 people showed up for one opening. It’s getting worse by the day.

  • Anonymous

    That has to be one of the most ignorant posts I’ve ever read, here, or anywhere out there on them thar internets.

    You are just a complete f’ng idiot.

    A good percentage of the most wealthy people in the US feed ENTIRELY from the government money trough. And they aint no bunch of liberals you moron.

  • Anonymous

    That has to be one of the most ignorant posts I’ve ever read, here, or anywhere out there on them thar internets.

    You are just a complete f’ng idiot.

    A good percentage of the most wealthy people in the US feed ENTIRELY from the government money trough. And they aint no bunch of liberals you moron.

  • Anonymous

    if you believe that fantasy story, you must in fact be all for it rather than whine

  • http://twitter.com/bobbyjoe1290 Jim Bob

    Derek

    On the contrary, I love women and there’s certainly nothing more beautiful to look at. Lesbian’s on the other hand disgust me. Gay men disgust me. Being gay is a choice, not something your born with like your skin color or even ethnic background. The fact remains that the world is laughing at America. The day Gay people can serve in the military will be the end of integrity, honor and patriotism. Hitler and Stalin had the right idea, just the wrong people. What we need is a modern day leader that ends the stupidity and gets American back on track.

  • http://twitter.com/bobbyjoe1290 Jim Bob

    I dispise the fact that one’s sexuality is a basis for equal protection under the law. And you are absolutely correct. Kids should not be exposed to this adult behavior that we seem to be promoting as acceptable. What kind of life will our kids have? What will the generations in the future know what is acceptable and what’s not? Morals are disappearing and today’s society seems to be prompting it. I would love to go back to the days when gay people had to stay in the closet. America was a much better place.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t believe everything you read sucker.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/PSKROFVS7E4PVTI2CEPLFWEJII John

    Derrick….it already said its name is Jim Bob. Why are you even responding to it?

  • hounddogg

    “Being gay is a choice”…you think so?…how old were you when you decided to be whatever you are?…I’m sure everyone is dying to know…gay people have been serving in the military since the military has existed…you have to be a troll…no one could be that ignorant…maybe i’m wrong…

  • Hogan Slothrop

    Don’t write everything you believe.

  • Anonymous

    While people like you are sitting around spewing bible quotes waiting for god to come down and fix all the world’s problems, you do nothing and use that as some excuse for your laziness. Neither bible quotes nor jesus are protesting like the author against the wrongs of the world, nor are they finding unemployed jobs, fixing our corrupt government, or doing anything beneficial outside of what a newly released romantic comedy can do.

    Maybe do something like, I don’t know, read a book that has some educational value that applies to current situations. Or you can reread the same old thing the umpteenth time, spout some more meaningless rabble, and fill your face with Monsanto produced McDonalds on your way to ‘Bank of America Center’ in the good ol’ United States of Wal Mart. Been doing a great job of that so far.

  • Anonymous

    For the middle class and seniors this government and country has already collapsed in our faces.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t believe in anything. I know it’s hard for an underfed, under-educated monkey who has only seen the world through a piece of glass to understand. You should read more. Just don’t drink the milk.

  • Anonymous

    Bingo!

  • D.Crockett

    I reckon im just a flash in the pan to you Mr. flagg I will know who my enemy is when the time comes and believe me the South will rise again!

  • http://twitter.com/bobbyjoe1290 Jim Bob

    Yes, it’s a choice… period. End of discussion.

  • http://twitter.com/bobbyjoe1290 Jim Bob

    John,

    Don’t let the name fool you, sir. I actually know what those words mean and didn’t have to look them up like you probably did. Simple minded old man.

  • Anonymous

    Close all the US bases all over the world. Bring all those troops home, slash the pentagrams budget and use that money for the civilian population. We don’t need no stinking empire.

  • Anonymous

    The country is surely in trouble when bigots like those commenting here feel such license to blame gay people for what the political criminal enterprises are accomplishing. All Americans should be fearful but turning to hateful bully mob mentality is only going to hasten the collapse.

    Ignorant people confuse the horrible decay in American morality, pumped and fed by our media, with gay orientation and basic fundamental human rights and dignity. Hate and fear are causing weak minded folks to think the two issues are the same. It’s unfortunate.

  • http://solventmagazine.com/solventwp2/2010/12/17/headlines-for-december-17-2010/ Headlines for December 17, 2010 : Solvent Magazine

    [...] Exclusive: US empire could collapse at any time, Pulitzer winner tells Raw Story [...]

  • Robert Shaftoe

    I agree, don’t tear it down because you will never live to see it rebuilt, and neither will anyone else. What we need to do is more precise, and that’s what is difficult with a moving target as big as the Corporatocracy we’re dealing with.

    People like Julian Assange have it right: cripple the criminals by exposing the channels where the darks deals are made. Make them fear they can be exposed at any time. Use their secrecy against them.

    Meanwhile, we should be grooming Progressive leaders at all levels.

  • Anonymous

    Spoken like a true closeted, self loathing, gay dude …. Time to open your letter pal.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know if you follow Hedges work much, but rest assured: when he talks about America becoming a “moral swamp,” he’s referring to bigots like you, not to the gays.

    Shouldn’t you be writing to your congressman about Obama’s birth certificate or something?

  • http://c4ss.org/content/5448 The State Makes Serfs

    [...] It’s not unreasonable to worry that corporate and government interests are forcing the average person into serfdom. Chris Hedges’ words in a recent interview with The Raw Story exemplify the concern: “We’ve undergone a corporate coup d’état in slow motion… Unless we begin to physically resist, they are going to solidify neo-feudalism in this country.” (Exclusive: US empire could collapse at any time, Pulitzer winner tells Raw Story) [...]

  • ladygeek

    I agree with this. That thought came to my mind on 9/11. I’m the daughter of a civil engineer who tried to get me to be a civil engineer too but that was way back when women weren’t allowed into university programs. As I watched that tower collapse, I thought immediately that it wasn’t because the tower was hit because of the way it pancaked. But I never got to ask my father about that since he passed away before I could. I’m still waiting for that revolution that was heralded back when I was in college in the stone age (late 60′s – early ’70′s).

  • hounddogg

    answer the fucking question…

  • hounddogg

    answer the fucking question…

  • Hogan Slothrop

    The only glass you see in is evidently a looking-glass. And you’re pleased with your reflection. You believe in that much, you phony.

  • Hogan Slothrop

    The only glass you see in is evidently a looking-glass. And you’re pleased with your reflection. You believe in that much, you phony.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you! Any ill will that other nations have toward us started long before Obama’s election.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you! Any ill will that other nations have toward us started long before Obama’s election.

  • ladygeek

    The stupid part of your argument is that America is and has NEVER passed any law or attempted to give religious powers access to making laws as stated in our Constitution. Oh yeah, you probably carry around a little book with only the amendments in it – not the case law or anything else. What’s even more hysterical is that those of you who do that are just following what unions have been doing for ages: carry around a copy of their contract in a little book so they can check to make sure that the company is in compliance with the contract. All these religious righies are just the same as the labor movement. This is absolutely ironic.

    I did work in labor relations for years even negotiating labor agreements which was pretty unusual because it’s not a favorite career for most women. In one of the company’s I worked for, we used to beat the union to printing the contract so that it was on 8 1/2″x11″ paper so it wasn’t so easy for the union members to carry around in their back pockets. I’m not proud of the fact that I did that but I didn’t realize at the time that management in almost all companies were decertifying as many unions as they could.

  • ladygeek

    The stupid part of your argument is that America is and has NEVER passed any law or attempted to give religious powers access to making laws as stated in our Constitution. Oh yeah, you probably carry around a little book with only the amendments in it – not the case law or anything else. What’s even more hysterical is that those of you who do that are just following what unions have been doing for ages: carry around a copy of their contract in a little book so they can check to make sure that the company is in compliance with the contract. All these religious righies are just the same as the labor movement. This is absolutely ironic.

    I did work in labor relations for years even negotiating labor agreements which was pretty unusual because it’s not a favorite career for most women. In one of the company’s I worked for, we used to beat the union to printing the contract so that it was on 8 1/2″x11″ paper so it wasn’t so easy for the union members to carry around in their back pockets. I’m not proud of the fact that I did that but I didn’t realize at the time that management in almost all companies were decertifying as many unions as they could.

  • Anonymous

    Challenge anything I have said. Preset a fact, an argument, stomp me to the ground with the breadth and width of your knowledge.

    No just pull out the hatchet and shut him up. Well I bet I can kick your ass, try something.

  • Anonymous

    Challenge anything I have said. Preset a fact, an argument, stomp me to the ground with the breadth and width of your knowledge.

    No just pull out the hatchet and shut him up. Well I bet I can kick your ass, try something.

  • Anonymous

    This is a disgusting, asinine post.

    People who write things like this are ignorant. It’s not as if gay people walk into kindergarten classrooms and start in on a heavy petting session.

    PLEASE! People, get real.

  • Anonymous

    This is a disgusting, asinine post.

    People who write things like this are ignorant. It’s not as if gay people walk into kindergarten classrooms and start in on a heavy petting session.

    PLEASE! People, get real.

  • Anonymous

    You’re a simp.

  • Anonymous

    You’re a simp.

  • Anonymous

    Mr. Hedges is absolutely correct in his assessment of the situation our nation faces.

    But I must add, the Republican Party itself is one huge conservative Death Panel.

    Just how long it will take for the Republican “Death Panel” Party to kill America and kill even more American citizens is debatable, but it is obvious that “Death Panel” Republicans have chosen the Death Penalty for America and many American citizens through their right-wing Death Panel policies.

  • Anonymous

    Mr. Hedges is absolutely correct in his assessment of the situation our nation faces.

    But I must add, the Republican Party itself is one huge conservative Death Panel.

    Just how long it will take for the Republican “Death Panel” Party to kill America and kill even more American citizens is debatable, but it is obvious that “Death Panel” Republicans have chosen the Death Penalty for America and many American citizens through their right-wing Death Panel policies.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dana-Seilhan/526832595 Dana Seilhan

    Yeah, never mind the poor or anything. They don’t exist.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dana-Seilhan/526832595 Dana Seilhan

    Yeah, never mind the poor or anything. They don’t exist.

  • Hogan Slothrop

    There’s nothing to “try”. You do it very nicely without anyone’s help.
    Keep up the good work!

  • Hogan Slothrop

    There’s nothing to “try”. You do it very nicely without anyone’s help.
    Keep up the good work!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dana-Seilhan/526832595 Dana Seilhan

    Yeah, I thought the American family was falling apart since so many families are headed by single mothers. What’s the difference between a single mother raising her kids, and a married mother being the only parent who bothers with them since Dad’s at work all day?

    Especially if labor laws are gutted and Dad’s paid so little he has to work three jobs?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dana-Seilhan/526832595 Dana Seilhan

    Yeah, I thought the American family was falling apart since so many families are headed by single mothers. What’s the difference between a single mother raising her kids, and a married mother being the only parent who bothers with them since Dad’s at work all day?

    Especially if labor laws are gutted and Dad’s paid so little he has to work three jobs?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dana-Seilhan/526832595 Dana Seilhan

    Onions disgust *me*, but I’m not screaming for them to be banned. Grow up.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dana-Seilhan/526832595 Dana Seilhan

    Onions disgust *me*, but I’m not screaming for them to be banned. Grow up.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dana-Seilhan/526832595 Dana Seilhan

    Being an a-hole is a choice too. So’s being a Christian, yet that choice is protected by law.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dana-Seilhan/526832595 Dana Seilhan

    Being an a-hole is a choice too. So’s being a Christian, yet that choice is protected by law.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dana-Seilhan/526832595 Dana Seilhan

    On the other hand, YOU are calling for more of the same that got us into this mess in the first place. The country’s broke? Fix the country. Did it never occur to you that the existence of nation-states is in itself a problem?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dana-Seilhan/526832595 Dana Seilhan

    On the other hand, YOU are calling for more of the same that got us into this mess in the first place. The country’s broke? Fix the country. Did it never occur to you that the existence of nation-states is in itself a problem?

  • Anonymous

    Typical, talk shit, but nothing to say, can’t play. You are the one living in a lie. You like it, I get it.

    And yes when I say was is coming I am lying through my teeth war is here, been so for a long time. Because of men like you.

  • Anonymous

    Typical, talk shit, but nothing to say, can’t play. You are the one living in a lie. You like it, I get it.

    And yes when I say was is coming I am lying through my teeth war is here, been so for a long time. Because of men like you.

  • Anonymous

    why not go back to days when blacks shined shoes and picked cotton and women could not vote–you idiot

  • Anonymous

    why not go back to days when blacks shined shoes and picked cotton and women could not vote–you idiot

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dana-Seilhan/526832595 Dana Seilhan

    I don’t care whether this is a sovereign nation. I care whether people’s basic human rights continue to be violated. As they always have, under the aegis of the Stars and Stripes, or any other “Christian nation” flag you care to cite.

    Screw it. It can go right ahead and collapse and I don’t care if it never comes back. When the oil runs out the corporate-fascist engine will grind to a stop. Especially if the “green living” idiots quit trying to look for ways to continue propping up the machine. I don’t need “green fuel,” I need the madness to STOP.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dana-Seilhan/526832595 Dana Seilhan

    I don’t care whether this is a sovereign nation. I care whether people’s basic human rights continue to be violated. As they always have, under the aegis of the Stars and Stripes, or any other “Christian nation” flag you care to cite.

    Screw it. It can go right ahead and collapse and I don’t care if it never comes back. When the oil runs out the corporate-fascist engine will grind to a stop. Especially if the “green living” idiots quit trying to look for ways to continue propping up the machine. I don’t need “green fuel,” I need the madness to STOP.

  • Anonymous

    Why don’t you go and move into the UN about it?

  • Anonymous

    Why don’t you go and move into the UN about it?

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dana-Seilhan/526832595 Dana Seilhan

    Lao Tzu far predates the incarnation of China that vexes you now. Unfortunately, they listened to Confucius rather than Lao.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dana-Seilhan/526832595 Dana Seilhan

    Lao Tzu far predates the incarnation of China that vexes you now. Unfortunately, they listened to Confucius rather than Lao.

  • Anonymous

    will the five homophobics on this thread go back into their caves.

  • Anonymous

    will the five homophobics on this thread go back into their caves.

  • Anonymous

    idiot-

  • Anonymous

    idiot-

  • http://www.bobcatarts.com Robert Gandy

    Mr(s) Labor, this is the first I’ve heard of this guy Chris Hedges. I’ll have to look up some of his other writings. Thanks for the tip.

  • http://www.bobcatarts.com Robert Gandy

    Mr(s) Labor, this is the first I’ve heard of this guy Chris Hedges. I’ll have to look up some of his other writings. Thanks for the tip.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dana-Seilhan/526832595 Dana Seilhan

    At least his name is truth in advertising.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dana-Seilhan/526832595 Dana Seilhan

    At least his name is truth in advertising.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dana-Seilhan/526832595 Dana Seilhan

    You only ever had an illusion of freedom for as long as you were willing to play the game. It’s merely the end of the game.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dana-Seilhan/526832595 Dana Seilhan

    You only ever had an illusion of freedom for as long as you were willing to play the game. It’s merely the end of the game.

  • Anonymous

    Same Lanuage, NO PUNCTUATION, not what you speak, learn your own history. Got it in a vault under guard, no more lies.

  • Anonymous

    Same Lanuage, NO PUNCTUATION, not what you speak, learn your own history. Got it in a vault under guard, no more lies.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dana-Seilhan/526832595 Dana Seilhan

    Oh, that’s an interesting twist. Blame Muslims for the Dark Ages. Never mind they saved classical literature and knowledge from being lost, or anything.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dana-Seilhan/526832595 Dana Seilhan

    Oh, that’s an interesting twist. Blame Muslims for the Dark Ages. Never mind they saved classical literature and knowledge from being lost, or anything.

  • Anonymous

    You say, “It didn’t work in the 60s…”
    My genteel sir, you don’t know what you’re talking about. As I suggested, short of our 1860 civil war, which didn’t change everything PERMANENTLY, it’s the case that many great legislative actions occurred because of 60s protest. You’re entitled to your own views, but not to history. Try reading some history for perspective.

    BTW, forming a PAC (as you suggested) is exactly the course of action that gets subsumed by the Establishment, which it appears you’re up to your neck in. Forming “legally defined family associations” will do nothing.

    Your commentary is so contrary and stiff-necked that if this was the 60s, I would treat you as a snoop or one of the gov’t. sneaks we on this site wonder about.

  • Anonymous

    You say, “It didn’t work in the 60s…”
    My genteel sir, you don’t know what you’re talking about. As I suggested, short of our 1860 civil war, which didn’t change everything PERMANENTLY, it’s the case that many great legislative actions occurred because of 60s protest. You’re entitled to your own views, but not to history. Try reading some history for perspective.

    BTW, forming a PAC (as you suggested) is exactly the course of action that gets subsumed by the Establishment, which it appears you’re up to your neck in. Forming “legally defined family associations” will do nothing.

    Your commentary is so contrary and stiff-necked that if this was the 60s, I would treat you as a snoop or one of the gov’t. sneaks we on this site wonder about.

  • Anonymous

    Yup, we are all fools, believing that our Government was looking out for out safety and prosperity. We are fools for believing in both political parties, as they both have screwed the taxpayor. We go to war not for freedom and democracy, but to secure the mineral wealth, or strategic wealth of the area or country we are “liberating” Wall street, and the financiers run this country, and determine the direction we head to. The financial crash and housing mortgage crisis was a planned and orchestrated act. There is a fundemantal Marxist philisophy being followed, as much of the control of the US comes from old European Dynasty’s

    The reason our border with mexico is wide open is because thats what Obama wants. There is a plan to erase the borders with Mexico and Canada and and create a commom currency.

    Those of you that depend on welfare and public assistance are going to suffer bad-as there will be no welfare after the crash. Sportsman and survivalist types, gun owners, and self reliant types, and farmers will survive.. The mass gun and ammo purchases of the last 5 years was an indicator that some saw the crash coming.
    Gerald Celente predicted it, and when it hits its going to be real bad.

  • Anonymous

    Yup, we are all fools, believing that our Government was looking out for out safety and prosperity. We are fools for believing in both political parties, as they both have screwed the taxpayor. We go to war not for freedom and democracy, but to secure the mineral wealth, or strategic wealth of the area or country we are “liberating” Wall street, and the financiers run this country, and determine the direction we head to. The financial crash and housing mortgage crisis was a planned and orchestrated act. There is a fundemantal Marxist philisophy being followed, as much of the control of the US comes from old European Dynasty’s

    The reason our border with mexico is wide open is because thats what Obama wants. There is a plan to erase the borders with Mexico and Canada and and create a commom currency.

    Those of you that depend on welfare and public assistance are going to suffer bad-as there will be no welfare after the crash. Sportsman and survivalist types, gun owners, and self reliant types, and farmers will survive.. The mass gun and ammo purchases of the last 5 years was an indicator that some saw the crash coming.
    Gerald Celente predicted it, and when it hits its going to be real bad.

  • Anonymous

    What about the Obama recovery, remember that last article (FOX makes you stupid) when a bunch of ninnies were arguing with me about how the economy is getting better because Bernanke printed a lot of money for Barry at compound interest? People who think things are getting better are in for a shock on how WRONG you are.

  • Anonymous

    What about the Obama recovery, remember that last article (FOX makes you stupid) when a bunch of ninnies were arguing with me about how the economy is getting better because Bernanke printed a lot of money for Barry at compound interest? People who think things are getting better are in for a shock on how WRONG you are.

  • Anonymous

    Not all of us were fools, we who support Ron Paul expected all this a LONG time ago.

    Its called economics, most liberals (not all) are too busy looking out for social justice, and believing Keynesian Krugman to find out what real economics is, Gerald Celente (who is a REAL conservative like I am BTW) is spot on with everything, more liberals should listen.

  • Anonymous

    Not all of us were fools, we who support Ron Paul expected all this a LONG time ago.

    Its called economics, most liberals (not all) are too busy looking out for social justice, and believing Keynesian Krugman to find out what real economics is, Gerald Celente (who is a REAL conservative like I am BTW) is spot on with everything, more liberals should listen.

  • Lefty Leftist

    A jobless recovery makes a weak imbalanced society. I don’t know of anyone who would say that our economy is getting better in that regard. Both liberals and conservatives see a real possibility of collapse but there reasons behind those fears are politically opposite. Most liberals/progressive feel the need for MORE government intervention while conservatives believe in less.

  • Lefty Leftist

    A jobless recovery makes a weak imbalanced society. I don’t know of anyone who would say that our economy is getting better in that regard. Both liberals and conservatives see a real possibility of collapse but there reasons behind those fears are politically opposite. Most liberals/progressive feel the need for MORE government intervention while conservatives believe in less.

  • Anonymous

    Globalization has caught up to us. I can’t remember buying anything made in this country besides some food products in recent years. Even apple juice is coming from China rather than Washington State. I agree about the lower rung of classes & seniors posted below – much too much largess over the years – too much entitlement beyond life, liberty happiness. Thanks also to the unions giving a whole new definition to working class. Thanks to the governments at every level mortaging our futures with unsustainable debt. If you ever wonder what it was like to live in post war Eastern Block countries – soon you’ll have a chance. Electing cookie monsters with insatiable appities for my money – can’t do a damn thing right. Amtrak, Post Office and all the other money pits subsidized by government. And, all those liberal minded grads who defaulted on student loans. Yep, feudal times are acomin’. I’m sure the progressives will bask in their achievement. 300 million puppets.

  • Anonymous

    Globalization has caught up to us. I can’t remember buying anything made in this country besides some food products in recent years. Even apple juice is coming from China rather than Washington State. I agree about the lower rung of classes & seniors posted below – much too much largess over the years – too much entitlement beyond life, liberty happiness. Thanks also to the unions giving a whole new definition to working class. Thanks to the governments at every level mortaging our futures with unsustainable debt. If you ever wonder what it was like to live in post war Eastern Block countries – soon you’ll have a chance. Electing cookie monsters with insatiable appities for my money – can’t do a damn thing right. Amtrak, Post Office and all the other money pits subsidized by government. And, all those liberal minded grads who defaulted on student loans. Yep, feudal times are acomin’. I’m sure the progressives will bask in their achievement. 300 million puppets.

  • Anonymous

    Globalization has caught up to us. I can’t remember buying anything made in this country besides some food products in recent years. Even apple juice is coming from China rather than Washington State. I agree about the lower rung of classes & seniors posted below – much too much largess over the years – too much entitlement beyond life, liberty happiness. Thanks also to the unions giving a whole new definition to working class. Thanks to the governments at every level mortaging our futures with unsustainable debt. If you ever wonder what it was like to live in post war Eastern Block countries – soon you’ll have a chance. Electing cookie monsters with insatiable appities for my money – can’t do a damn thing right. Amtrak, Post Office and all the other money pits subsidized by government. And, all those liberal minded grads who defaulted on student loans. Yep, feudal times are acomin’. I’m sure the progressives will bask in their achievement. 300 million puppets.

  • Anonymous

    Globalization has caught up to us. I can’t remember buying anything made in this country besides some food products in recent years. Even apple juice is coming from China rather than Washington State. I agree about the lower rung of classes & seniors posted below – much too much largess over the years – too much entitlement beyond life, liberty happiness. Thanks also to the unions giving a whole new definition to working class. Thanks to the governments at every level mortaging our futures with unsustainable debt. If you ever wonder what it was like to live in post war Eastern Block countries – soon you’ll have a chance. Electing cookie monsters with insatiable appities for my money – can’t do a damn thing right. Amtrak, Post Office and all the other money pits subsidized by government. And, all those liberal minded grads who defaulted on student loans. Yep, feudal times are acomin’. I’m sure the progressives will bask in their achievement. 300 million puppets.

  • Anonymous

    don’t worry, there is another country accept us CANADA

  • Anonymous

    don’t worry, there is another country accept us CANADA

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/RepublicConstitution?feature=mhum TruthRegimes

    When empires run out of money, they cannot fund their War Machine and then either the troops come home or simply get left abroad as the nation-state crumbles.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/RepublicConstitution?feature=mhum TruthRegimes

    When empires run out of money, they cannot fund their War Machine and then either the troops come home or simply get left abroad as the nation-state crumbles.

  • Anonymous

    The first step was to control the media in order to “dumb-down” the populace which was accomplished by forty years of Republican rule and a complicit Bill Clinton (telecommunications act of ’96). Now people are convinced that unions are bad, a living wage is unreasonable, and it must all be the fault of homosexual Mexican feminists who are taking “our” jobs. The only hope we had was another FDR and instead we got Bill Clinton 2.0

  • Anonymous

    The first step was to control the media in order to “dumb-down” the populace which was accomplished by forty years of Republican rule and a complicit Bill Clinton (telecommunications act of ’96). Now people are convinced that unions are bad, a living wage is unreasonable, and it must all be the fault of homosexual Mexican feminists who are taking “our” jobs. The only hope we had was another FDR and instead we got Bill Clinton 2.0

  • Anonymous

    The first step to corporate control was to “dumb-down” the media which was accomplish through forty years of Republican rule and a complicit Bill Clinton (the telecommunications act of ’96). They’ve convinced the populace that unions are bad, a living wage in unreasonable, and that homosexual Mexican femenists are the problem because they are stealing “our” jobs. Our only hope was another FDR but instead we got Bill Clinton 2.0

  • Anonymous

    The first step to corporate control was to “dumb-down” the media which was accomplish through forty years of Republican rule and a complicit Bill Clinton (the telecommunications act of ’96). They’ve convinced the populace that unions are bad, a living wage in unreasonable, and that homosexual Mexican femenists are the problem because they are stealing “our” jobs. Our only hope was another FDR but instead we got Bill Clinton 2.0

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QTVISVGIIB6ENQGIENKIDRL55A Bri Jordan

    Yep, these are the replies I expected. Its so easy to blame religion and more specifically Christians. Its faith in God that will save this country and the rest of the world. Man will bring nations to destruction… keep looking for your leader to take us into peace and a one world government. He is just around the corner.

    Maybe its already too late for America… fine. But we have been the most free and prosperous country of all time because of our Christian founding, not because of the progressive laws passed the last 100 years. The left, liberals and progressives are the primary reason for our demise.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QTVISVGIIB6ENQGIENKIDRL55A Bri Jordan

    Yep, these are the replies I expected. Its so easy to blame religion and more specifically Christians. Its faith in God that will save this country and the rest of the world. Man will bring nations to destruction… keep looking for your leader to take us into peace and a one world government. He is just around the corner.

    Maybe its already too late for America… fine. But we have been the most free and prosperous country of all time because of our Christian founding, not because of the progressive laws passed the last 100 years. The left, liberals and progressives are the primary reason for our demise.

  • http://www.leosigh.com Leo Sigh

    It couldn’t happen fast enough.

    The day the US gets overtaken by China in the economy war, followed by India and Brazil, I’ll be the first one breaking out the champagne and doing a celebratory dance.

    The US has done nothing but abuse its power for decades. Give someone else a chance to lead. They sure as hell can’t do a worse job (secret CIA assassinations, illegal overthrows of government, illegal invasion of countries and ‘wars’ (Korea, Vietnam, Iran, Afghanistan, Panama and on and on).

    China has 1.3 billion people and, other than Tibet (you can’t count their idiot attempt in Vietnam), they have yet to illegally move into a country and overthrow its government. I don’t see them doing it any time soon. The US, on the other hand, if they had the money and manpower they’d be marching on Teheran next week.

  • http://www.leosigh.com Leo Sigh

    It couldn’t happen fast enough.

    The day the US gets overtaken by China in the economy war, followed by India and Brazil, I’ll be the first one breaking out the champagne and doing a celebratory dance.

    The US has done nothing but abuse its power for decades. Give someone else a chance to lead. They sure as hell can’t do a worse job (secret CIA assassinations, illegal overthrows of government, illegal invasion of countries and ‘wars’ (Korea, Vietnam, Iran, Afghanistan, Panama and on and on).

    China has 1.3 billion people and, other than Tibet (you can’t count their idiot attempt in Vietnam), they have yet to illegally move into a country and overthrow its government. I don’t see them doing it any time soon. The US, on the other hand, if they had the money and manpower they’d be marching on Teheran next week.

  • http://www.leosigh.com Leo Sigh

    It couldn’t happen fast enough.

    The day the US gets overtaken by China in the economy war, followed by India and Brazil, I’ll be the first one breaking out the champagne and doing a celebratory dance.

    The US has done nothing but abuse its power for decades. Give someone else a chance to lead. They sure as hell can’t do a worse job (secret CIA assassinations, illegal overthrows of government, illegal invasion of countries and ‘wars’ (Korea, Vietnam, Iran, Afghanistan, Panama and on and on).

    China has 1.3 billion people and, other than Tibet (you can’t count their idiot attempt in Vietnam), they have yet to illegally move into a country and overthrow its government. I don’t see them doing it any time soon. The US, on the other hand, if they had the money and manpower they’d be marching on Teheran next week.

  • http://www.leosigh.com Leo Sigh

    And I’m an American who lives outside the US. I transferred all my money out of the country a few years ago when I could see where the dollar was heading.

    If Americans who don’t want to live in a feudal society don’t get out WITH their money while they can, they won’t be able to leave as the US dollar will be worthless.

    Half of Asia, much of South America, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and most of Europe are places Americans should be heading to. Leave the fucked-up US behind. It’s done.

  • http://www.leosigh.com Leo Sigh

    And I’m an American who lives outside the US. I transferred all my money out of the country a few years ago when I could see where the dollar was heading.

    If Americans who don’t want to live in a feudal society don’t get out WITH their money while they can, they won’t be able to leave as the US dollar will be worthless.

    Half of Asia, much of South America, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and most of Europe are places Americans should be heading to. Leave the fucked-up US behind. It’s done.

  • http://www.leosigh.com Leo Sigh

    And I’m an American who lives outside the US. I transferred all my money out of the country a few years ago when I could see where the dollar was heading.

    If Americans who don’t want to live in a feudal society don’t get out WITH their money while they can, they won’t be able to leave as the US dollar will be worthless.

    Half of Asia, much of South America, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and most of Europe are places Americans should be heading to. Leave the fucked-up US behind. It’s done.

  • Anonymous

    It always seems like the homophobic and bigots are very ignorant, it goes with the territory.
    And your comment really points out how dishonest the arguments on this subject are.

    Also when one claims that they love to look at women because they’re beautiful but lesbian women disgusts them, they’re as ignorant as humans get.

  • Anonymous

    It always seems like the homophobic and bigots are very ignorant, it goes with the territory.
    And your comment really points out how dishonest the arguments on this subject are.

    Also when one claims that they love to look at women because they’re beautiful but lesbian women disgusts them, they’re as ignorant as humans get.

  • Anonymous

    It always seems like the homophobic and bigots are very ignorant, it goes with the territory.
    And your comment really points out how dishonest the arguments on this subject are.

    Also when one claims that they love to look at women because they’re beautiful but lesbian women disgusts them, they’re as ignorant as humans get.

  • surgethis

    Clearly Jim Bob is mentally damaged. Clueless and abusive this one follows the troll mode of doing the destructive drive by, leaving brown skid marks, and stinking up the place … why? Because Jim Bob had a tank full of suppressed infantile anger.

    Guys like Jimmy grow up and cannot experience their own shame. They never grow past shaming others and acting superior. Their intellect is badly stunted over generations of neglect and abuse which leaves them vacant and dull unaware of their severe short comings.

    Jim Bob needs a scape goat. Someone or a group of people to put down so poor Jimmy can justify the tiny corner of thoughtlessness he presides over and avoid the real truth … which is that he and others like him are the mentally deformed hate filled minds that cannot face the diversity of life and who must at all cost contain it in little bits of fake truths.

  • surgethis

    Clearly Jim Bob is mentally damaged. Clueless and abusive this one follows the troll mode of doing the destructive drive by, leaving brown skid marks, and stinking up the place … why? Because Jim Bob had a tank full of suppressed infantile anger.

    Guys like Jimmy grow up and cannot experience their own shame. They never grow past shaming others and acting superior. Their intellect is badly stunted over generations of neglect and abuse which leaves them vacant and dull unaware of their severe short comings.

    Jim Bob needs a scape goat. Someone or a group of people to put down so poor Jimmy can justify the tiny corner of thoughtlessness he presides over and avoid the real truth … which is that he and others like him are the mentally deformed hate filled minds that cannot face the diversity of life and who must at all cost contain it in little bits of fake truths.

  • surgethis

    Clearly Jim Bob is mentally damaged. Clueless and abusive this one follows the troll mode of doing the destructive drive by, leaving brown skid marks, and stinking up the place … why? Because Jim Bob had a tank full of suppressed infantile anger.

    Guys like Jimmy grow up and cannot experience their own shame. They never grow past shaming others and acting superior. Their intellect is badly stunted over generations of neglect and abuse which leaves them vacant and dull unaware of their severe short comings.

    Jim Bob needs a scape goat. Someone or a group of people to put down so poor Jimmy can justify the tiny corner of thoughtlessness he presides over and avoid the real truth … which is that he and others like him are the mentally deformed hate filled minds that cannot face the diversity of life and who must at all cost contain it in little bits of fake truths.

  • surgethis

    Hey Jim Bob … what’s ya doing … are you making skid marks in your drawers again and stinking up the place with your infantile anger? Yes we know who you are … and what sort of family background you come from … years of neglect have dulled your brain and made you obnoxious. We don’t expect you to change. We know you are incapable of that. But by all means spew your hate and do your drive by negative comments. And maybe when your panties are soggy you’ll get up and change them and for just a few moments we won’t have to see you here and that will be nice.

  • surgethis

    Hey Jim Bob … what’s ya doing … are you making skid marks in your drawers again and stinking up the place with your infantile anger? Yes we know who you are … and what sort of family background you come from … years of neglect have dulled your brain and made you obnoxious. We don’t expect you to change. We know you are incapable of that. But by all means spew your hate and do your drive by negative comments. And maybe when your panties are soggy you’ll get up and change them and for just a few moments we won’t have to see you here and that will be nice.

  • surgethis

    Hey Jim Bob … what’s ya doing … are you making skid marks in your drawers again and stinking up the place with your infantile anger? Yes we know who you are … and what sort of family background you come from … years of neglect have dulled your brain and made you obnoxious. We don’t expect you to change. We know you are incapable of that. But by all means spew your hate and do your drive by negative comments. And maybe when your panties are soggy you’ll get up and change them and for just a few moments we won’t have to see you here and that will be nice.

  • Anonymous

    The government is in on the the collapse unfortunately and there is no such thing as a jobless recovery.

  • Anonymous

    The government is in on the the collapse unfortunately and there is no such thing as a jobless recovery.

  • Anonymous

    The government is in on the the collapse unfortunately and there is no such thing as a jobless recovery.

  • Benway for the Nova Police

    End of the Roman Empire:

    1) Adopted Christianity as the official state religion.
    2) Began hiring mercenaries to fight their wars.
    3) The rich refused to pay their fair share of taxes.

    Sound familiar?

  • Benway for the Nova Police

    End of the Roman Empire:

    1) Adopted Christianity as the official state religion.
    2) Began hiring mercenaries to fight their wars.
    3) The rich refused to pay their fair share of taxes.

    Sound familiar?

  • Benway for the Nova Police

    End of the Roman Empire:

    1) Adopted Christianity as the official state religion.
    2) Began hiring mercenaries to fight their wars.
    3) The rich refused to pay their fair share of taxes.

    Sound familiar?

  • Anonymous

    Hey Pulitzer Prize Winner Chris, If you cannot tell us something a bit more specific, I would say that your prediction is as worth as much as the local gypsy woman down the street who steals peoples money and dignity. Okay! Try again and stop beating around the bush. WE all know the USA is in big trouble so you aren’t telling us anything new. Go blow smoke up your on ass.

  • Anonymous

    Hey Pulitzer Prize Winner Chris, If you cannot tell us something a bit more specific, I would say that your prediction is as worth as much as the local gypsy woman down the street who steals peoples money and dignity. Okay! Try again and stop beating around the bush. WE all know the USA is in big trouble so you aren’t telling us anything new. Go blow smoke up your on ass.

  • Anonymous

    Hey Pulitzer Prize Winner Chris, If you cannot tell us something a bit more specific, I would say that your prediction is as worth as much as the local gypsy woman down the street who steals peoples money and dignity. Okay! Try again and stop beating around the bush. WE all know the USA is in big trouble so you aren’t telling us anything new. Go blow smoke up your on ass.

  • http://SALON WHITE DRAGON

    We need to begin with ending the filibuster…..

  • http://SALON WHITE DRAGON

    We need to begin with ending the filibuster…..

  • http://SALON WHITE DRAGON

    We need to begin with ending the filibuster…..

  • Anonymous

    Hater! Abusive Hater! There are plenty of good Americans so take your hatred of those of us who are progressive and put in on the line up here on the podium. Hater!

  • Anonymous

    Hater! Abusive Hater! There are plenty of good Americans so take your hatred of those of us who are progressive and put in on the line up here on the podium. Hater!

  • surgethis

    I’d say it’s a choice to be a complete moron and and angry deformed imbecile but that would be wrong. It takes multi-generational abuse and mental damage to produce a thick headed, shameless, amoeba like yourself.

    You might even say that the petri dish you’ve been soaking in s a mixture of toxic generational child rearing resulting in the reduction of blood flow to vital parts of the brain and body producing an irreversible petrification of both.

  • surgethis

    I’d say it’s a choice to be a complete moron and and angry deformed imbecile but that would be wrong. It takes multi-generational abuse and mental damage to produce a thick headed, shameless, amoeba like yourself.

    You might even say that the petri dish you’ve been soaking in s a mixture of toxic generational child rearing resulting in the reduction of blood flow to vital parts of the brain and body producing an irreversible petrification of both.

  • surgethis

    I’d say it’s a choice to be a complete moron and and angry deformed imbecile but that would be wrong. It takes multi-generational abuse and mental damage to produce a thick headed, shameless, amoeba like yourself.

    You might even say that the petri dish you’ve been soaking in s a mixture of toxic generational child rearing resulting in the reduction of blood flow to vital parts of the brain and body producing an irreversible petrification of both.

  • TheDevilCanDance

    Hahaha, I was about to ask you if you were into scat sex, then I read the hilarious ” Hitler and Stalin had the right idea……” , this confirms my initial suspicion, like your idol Adolph Hitler,
    Jim Bob you are a turd burglar, a shit lover, you fancy to have young women (or young men) defecate on your chest while you masturbate……

  • Anonymous

    No…..we need to begin with an independent investigation into 9/11. It is the only way to start the truthful national discussion that is so needed now.

  • http://www.themine-thebook.com Daniel R Cobb

    Exactly, Stephen. Most of what big business and the government are doing is fundamentally fraudulent, driven by only by individual greed, with no concern for the common good or the long term.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QTVISVGIIB6ENQGIENKIDRL55A Bri Jordan

    “RAW STORY IS: CARBON BALANCED; ALL CARBON EMISSIONS ARE OFFSET! ”

    Hahahahahahahahahahaha, You guys are fools

  • Anonymous

    Raw Story should be interviewing you.

  • surgethis

    I forgot to add that Jim Bob is the classic drive by angry attention seeking troll that revels in the negative responses he undoubtedly receives.

    When a person is as dull as Jimmy Bobby it becomes necessary to seek out drama in order to define the small impenetrable block of wood that substitutes as a brain … boys like Jimmy have an almost desperate need to feel better than someone so they pick out gays and think if you can call it thinking that it makes them superior.

    However if you think about it … acceptance and understanding take way more mental ability and require the strength of flexibility which the hardened petrified excuse for a brain Jim Bob exhibits simply does not have.

    Nobody here expects Bob or any of his lovers to ever get a clue … it’s just fun watching him bloat up and roll around.

  • Benway for the Nova Police

    Talking to yourself again? You know, there are drugs for that?

  • http://www.costarikker.blogspot.com Motelcalifornia

    This sounds like a crock. Referencing the collapse of the Soviet Union for the umpteen-millionth time? WTF for? The Soviets called us imperialists. Unbelievable! Everyone is into this conspiracy theory crap.

    We were NEVER officially an empire. The problem is that the English language doesn’t have a verb to use for naming what an empire does. In Latin, it is “imperare,” which in English sort of translates to “prevail” every time.

    Afghanistan is already well-known as a Waterloo for anyone. Everyone loses in that place, including Afghanis. It’s like historical herpes. It never goes away–historically. That we are getting our asses kicked there like a pack of Soviet Russkies should no surprise to anyone. The place is too big, mountainous and it just plain sucks major league ass. Afghanis are mountain goats. It could be like the Switzerland of the Middle East, but you must have a very long beard all the time and that gets in the way.

    Our operation and the Russkies look alike because, again, the place is too fucking big. Think about it. Vietnam was just long and had….er…too many trees. The Taliban can regain control of the country because they are more like the people who live there. There is obviously no social sophistication in that country that can make a difference. These people love living isolated, in their own mental planet and when someobody complains, they love shooting at them.

    As for the corporate coup d’etat, it has been underway since 1776, most likely. It’s not that far from the fully industrialized 1800s. Protestantism has equated wealth with being blessed by the Almighty Bum in the Sky. The rich can fill up the offering plate much faster.

    Competing with prison labor in China is never going to happen. It is cheap labor by default and its production is geared toward selling to advanced economies. If we really have to compete with them, then we are them. In that case, we need to find out if our new-found retrograde economy status is permanent real fast.

    The ruble and the remnibi as global reserve currencies is a joke. I doubt that China has any desire to be a buyer nation and cease being a seller. Because that, the fact that we buy a lot, is one of the reasons that the US dollar is the major global reserve currency. World nations use it to trade with us and among each other. In other words, the dollars they hold will be bought in the banking system to clear trade transactions with the US quoted in dollars. If China and Russia abandon the dollar, which is not what is happening, the two nations are simply diversifying their currency portfolio like they are supposed, it wouldn’t really matter if the reason is the hypothetical collapse of the US empire.

    This guy is just trying to cash in on the hysteria buiding up over the collapse of something we were never meant to be–an empire.

  • TheDevilCanDance

    Go back in line old bag ,you’re a trailer park white Negro piece of trash who makes 6 bucks an hour, cleaning the latrines at Wall mart. Nobody gives a shit about your feeling of insecurity.
    Lol, You speak like a prison bitch, do you miss the food? :)

  • http://www.costarikker.blogspot.com Motelcalifornia

    Where should we go? Better yet, did you see entire Third World Countries become depopulated? No. Don’t expect that to happen here either. We were never this so-called empire. Whoever thought that was the goal should talk to a neurologist about having that dead worm removed out of their skull.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/H6ATAKFWS6KDUXJMKF22VB7F2A WilliamL

    Come on set your brainwashing aside for a minute and look at this logically. How can the dollar collapse? It’s value is relative to other currencies, and if you traveled overseas, which you obviously don’t, you would know that in most countries outside of the Euro region goods and services are priced in dollars though the local currency is used in actual transactions. For instance, in Latin America most hotels list there prices in U.S. dollars. Even in the strong Latam economies, such as Brazil and Colombia, hotels are priced in dollars but transacted in the local currency using the dollar exchange rate. Thinking of buying property in Argentina or Costa Rica? Well it won’t be priced in pesos or colones, it will be priced in dollars. I live in Central America and my rent is priced in dollars. And what currency would the dollar fall against? Certainly not the Euro. Despite the current Euro Dollar exchange rate, Europe, with its PIIGS problem, is in far worse shape than the dollar.

    And the Chinese are so stubborn about floating their currency, which is currently pegged to the dollar, that if dollar fell it would take their currency with it and wipe out all the US dollar reserves that China holds. That might be a positive if the dollar did collapse. China’s dollar reserves would have much less value and U.S. labor would suddenly be much cheaper which would stimulate the economy.

    But really, what currency would you move your money into. None are more stable than the dollar. And don’t say gold. The dark ages are over. Kings and queens are only figureheads and no one is conquerors out to capture more gold. There are plenty of things more valuable than gold. Gold is to 2010 what real estate was to 2007. The bubble is about to burst.

  • http://www.costarikker.blogspot.com Motelcalifornia

    The world is not an ox. It doesn’t need to be led.
    The Chinese have had a large population as well as a warrior and now militaristic tradition for far too long. We don’t see it, but other countries in the area know that they can be easily overwhelmed by the sheer numbers in the Chinese armed forces. China has other territorial traditions. They never gave Inner Mongolia back to Mongolia. They still believe that Taiwan belongs to them and get angry when anyone refers to Taiwan as the “R.O.C.” That stands for Republic of China.

  • http://www.costarikker.blogspot.com Motelcalifornia

    Bill Clinton was in the White House while every Republican gorilla swung their clubs at him on a daily basis. Not to promote dictatorships and other parasitic government bodies like the central committees used in real Communist countries, but no government branch can work while either one of the other two are like a pamper to it: Full of shit and all over its ass.

  • http://www.costarikker.blogspot.com Motelcalifornia

    Feudalism in America, as well as Europe, is impossible. First of all, our Feudal Lords are not the type to provide any social safety net as well as taking responsibility for the physical upkeep of the serf. With their constant insistence on everyone paying their way as if everyone could afford the full monte, they are immediately disqualified for a Lordship. Feudalism was virtual slavery. Total slavery, if you were female.

    What will happen is that since the rich know what their money can buy anywhere on this planet, they’ll just leave us alone like a used sanitary napkin. They’ll just pass us there. Why should they even care? They wouldn’t want us and will simply turn their heads.

  • TheDevilCanDance

    “On the contrary, I love women and there’s certainly nothing more beautiful to look at. Lesbian’s on the other hand disgust me”

    You love women but they scarcely return the favor? Lol, this is the source of your resentment towards people’s sexuality.

    Usually people who speak like you, have 3 problems
    1) a really bad hygiene
    2) they smell like piss
    3) they look like shit

    You’re god damned right ” there is nothing more beautiful than women” ….I am a girl who loves girls & I wouldn’t change my lust for pussy for your hairy balls, for all the money in the world….

  • Anonymous

    Tipping Point: 25 Signs That The Coming Financial Collapse Is Now Closer Than Ever

    http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/tipping-point-25-signs-that-the-coming-financial-collapse-is-now-closer-then-ever

  • http://www.costarikker.blogspot.com Motelcalifornia

    I’ll stick to whatever is written on subway wall and tenement halls

  • Anonymous

    Excellent analysis, and I believe what you are describing about jimbob, is the authoritarian personality. The mind shuts down early in life, creativity is strangled , zero introspection to see one’s faults, thus improving empathy, no, all that is left is a mind that projects his own anger to all around him. Of course he needs scapegoats, otherwise I believe he would have torn his hair out in disgust if he truly would hear himself blabber on. The authoritarian personality flocks to the Republican party, in record numbers, and they would have kissed Bush’s feet if they had the chance. Bush and Cheney were authoritarians to the core, and now we all suffer as a result, as well as all the American Soldiers who died in Iraq, an illegal war. No wonder, Bush is considered by most scholars as the worst president in American History.

  • Anonymous

    The people running the show got their TAPI Gas Pipeline deal in Afghanistan and their Big Oil contracts for the Iraqi oil. Sounds like “prevailing” to me.

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  • http://www.youtube.com/user/RepublicConstitution?feature=mhum TruthRegimes

    Look how much Obama LOVES war as does every president who is owned by the military-industrial-banking complex:
    “Gates: Public Opinion Can’t Stop Afghan War
    As Clinton Chides Americans to Support Occupation, Gates Insists Their Opinions Don’t Count Anyhow”
    “Secretary of State Hillary Clinton played the usual appeal to fear card in trying to bolster public support for the Afghan War, even as polls show the American public overwhelmingly opposed to continuing the occupation, already in its tenth year. Her comments urged Americans to see the war as “protecting their families.””
    http://news.antiwar.com/2010/12/16/gates-public-opinion-cant-stop-afghan-war/

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/RepublicConstitution?feature=mhum TruthRegimes

    Get real. Over 700 U.S. military bases in over 100 countries PROVES this is an EMPIRE! Just because you believe the lies told in high school history does not make it right.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/RepublicConstitution?feature=mhum TruthRegimes

    It is occupation. Long term occupation which is the essence of empire.

  • TheDevilCanDance

    As a Queer I don’t mind people like you, you are harmless as a Gay hamster, but please stay away from the kids. Homosexuality is not a crime,it’s an issue between 2 consenting adults,
    but pedophilia is a crime.Are you on the National sex predators registry ?

  • ladygeek

    I agree. Back in 1972, I was working in the Dept. of Econ at the University of Minnesota. I learned alot when Nixon changed from the gold standard to fiat currency. I still don’t believe that it was a smart decision because I’m still wondering if there really is gold at Fort Knox.

    At any rate, countries that change their currency equivalency to anything other than dollars will bankrupt themselves. And, of course, there was a problem with Saddam Husein trying to switch the value of oil from US dollars to euros. We know what happened to him. You’d be stupid to switch your currency value to anything but the US dollar.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/RepublicConstitution?feature=mhum TruthRegimes

    Also false flag terror events blamed on enemies and cracking down on their own populace instead–just like the U.S. has done with 911. Stage the terror and blame foreigners and then turn into a police-state because they know the empire is crumbling and running out of money.

  • Anonymous

    Of course…..we’re there forever to protect “our” interests, that we just took from them.

  • hounddogg

    “Its faith in God that will save this country and the rest of the world. Man will bring nations to destruction.”…let me fix that for you for you…”It’s mans faith in “god” that will bring nations to destruction”…if there was a giant sky faerie, people would not be suffering and dying for no apparent reason other than greed…the founders of this country came here to flee religious and political persecution…

  • TheDevilCanDance

    Grannie, you ‘d better keep your grand kids away from people like Jim Bob (what a fucking ridiculous name is that, by the way).Looks like the perfect pedo, to me

    Don’t worry as long as you’re alive, us Queers will stay away from the innocence of your grand kids, there is nothing more repealing than the vision of an old rag who smells of death …..

  • http://www.leosigh.com Leo Sigh

    You don’t get it do you. Leave the US and see how well most other countries are doing. I’m in Thailand and our economy may have slowed due to political crises at the beginning of the year but there isn’t a Thai who can’t find a job, or is losing his house because of bank mismanagement and thievery. Thai banks are secure (all my money is in them now) and, when the US was bailing out bank after bank, Thai banks were recording record profits. Why? Because they kept a lot of money in reserve (smart) and didn’t involve themselves in illegal deals.

    THIS is reality over much of the world. Europe will eventually recover, it always does. America is absolutely done, because the unchecked corporations are out of control, steamrolling over anyone who tries to stop them.

  • http://www.leosigh.com Leo Sigh

    You’re a moron. While your country is dying around your ears, you’re still toeing the party line. Every American I know who lives in Asia wouldn’t go back to the US if they were HOGTIED.

    Life is amazing outside America as we don’t live in eternal FEAR, lied to by a corrupt American government who you’ll still be believing is working FOR you when you’re being led to your grave.

    I’m amazed how so many idiots still live in America and hand over all their power to a lunatic government. Very sad :(

    And by the way, you sound hysterical, LOL.

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  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    It is time to revisit the Farewell Address of America’s last REAL Commander in Chief, Supreme Allied Commander, WWII, and President for 8 years, Dwight D. Eisenhower.

    His speech 50 years ago was not political or partisan, but more Spiritual in scope, based on his experience from holding the most powerful military and political jobs the world has ever created.

    He cautioned against thinking there is some quick fix as he said,
    “there is a recurring temptation to feel that some spectacular and costly action could become the miraculous solution to all current difficulties.”

    The American people Today do expect their Leaders to provide that quick fix solution to all their problems without the people having to do anything to disrupt their comforts and habits.

    Television, the biggest thing to happen to Society since WWII, has evolved to foster that appetite for instant gratification when the General was advising patience. It created want in Society that was focused on meeting needs until the arrival of TV.

    With the latest quantitative easing, America continues to de-value ITSELF in the world as The General warned would be the consequence in the misuse of American Power..

    With the benefit of hindsight, only now can we see the Wisdom, Experience, Spirituality and Truth in his prophetic speech.

    Fighting wars in impoverished Afghanistan/Pakistan with high tech weapons at great cost in money, material and human lives to support a corrupt government when all those $billions could have been used to rebuild a country, not modelled after the West with it’s pseudo Democracy and consumerism, but consistent with the needs of the local population. Indoor plumbing and electricity would have been a good start.

    “Another factor in maintaining balance involves the element of time. As we peer into society’s future, we — you and I, and our government — must avoid the impulse to live only for today, plundering, for our own ease and convenience, the precious resources of tomorrow. We cannot mortgage the material assets of our grandchildren without risking the loss also of their political and spiritual heritage. We want democracy to survive for all generations to come, not to become the insolvent phantom of tomorrow.

    Throughout America’s adventure in free government, our basic purposes have been to keep the peace; to foster progress in human achievement, and to enhance liberty, dignity and integrity among people and among nations. To strive for less would be unworthy of a free and religious people. Any failure traceable to arrogance, or our lack of comprehension or readiness to sacrifice would inflict upon us grievous hurt both at home and abroad.

    Progress toward these noble goals is persistently threatened by the conflict now engulfing the world. It commands our whole attention, absorbs our very beings. We face a hostile ideology — global in scope, atheistic in character, ruthless in purpose, and insidious in method. Unhappily the danger is poses promises to be of indefinite duration. To meet it successfully, there is called for, not so much the emotional and transitory sacrifices of crisis, but rather those which enable us to carry forward steadily, surely, and without complaint the burdens of a prolonged and complex struggle — with liberty the stake. Only thus shall we remain, despite every provocation, on our charted course toward permanent peace and human betterment.”

    America has gone off the charted course.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rd8wwMFmCeE&feature=related

  • Anonymous

    I don’t “have a resistance”. I’m talking hypothetical based on past history of collapsing governments and civil wars. Never seen one where the prerequisite was having YOUR OWN intelligence agency before you get involved in a civil war, etc. LMAO! Sounds like you play waaay to many video games.

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  • TheDevilCanDance

    Ok Priest, I am deleting my original post,you are everything but humble & charitable :)

    You don’t even have the courtesy of saying “thank you”….

  • TheDevilCanDance

    Ok Priest, I am deleting my original post,you are everything but humble & charitable :)

    You don’t even have the courtesy of saying “thank you”….

  • TheDevilCanDance

    Ok Priest, I am deleting my original post,you are everything but humble & charitable :)

    You don’t even have the courtesy of saying “thank you”….

  • TheDevilCanDance

    “Only difference is that we still have a large Christian base. So while we will collapse, we will come back and still be a sovereign nation”.

    Yeah Einstein, Nazi Germany was also a Christian nation, it didn’t prevent it from collapsing. & subsequently Germans had to eat rat meat for the next decade…..

  • TheDevilCanDance

    “Only difference is that we still have a large Christian base. So while we will collapse, we will come back and still be a sovereign nation”.

    Yeah Einstein, Nazi Germany was also a Christian nation, it didn’t prevent it from collapsing. & subsequently Germans had to eat rat meat for the next decade…..

  • TheDevilCanDance

    “Only difference is that we still have a large Christian base. So while we will collapse, we will come back and still be a sovereign nation”.

    Yeah Einstein, Nazi Germany was also a Christian nation, it didn’t prevent it from collapsing. & subsequently Germans had to eat rat meat for the next decade…..

  • Anonymous

    End of discussion? No, it just getting started. Jim Bob, I know your secret. Deep down, you hate yourself, what you dish out is what you are deep inside. People with your personality type claim to love women, only to become wife-batterers, abuse their children physically or emotionally. It is so obvious that one of your parents must have also been a bigoted person or you grew up in an environment of hate. Let me guess, you come from the bible belt or some other strict religion that is non-tolerant and medieval. Sir, you don’t love women, because you don’t know what love means. It is not control and the infliction of pain for obediance. Women are not your property, but your equal, something you would never tolerate. If I can guess correctly, at night you suffer from stomach trouble, because of all the anger and hate you keep bottled up. Yes, sir, you are a Rush Limbaugh flunky troll prowling the internet looking for an outlet to all the pain you harbor in your soul. Is any wonder that Rush got rich from your kind because you are not alone, there being, millions registered in the Republican party, being screwed by your own masters and lied to by your favorite new program , Fraud News.

  • Anonymous

    End of discussion? No, it just getting started. Jim Bob, I know your secret. Deep down, you hate yourself, what you dish out is what you are deep inside. People with your personality type claim to love women, only to become wife-batterers, abuse their children physically or emotionally. It is so obvious that one of your parents must have also been a bigoted person or you grew up in an environment of hate. Let me guess, you come from the bible belt or some other strict religion that is non-tolerant and medieval. Sir, you don’t love women, because you don’t know what love means. It is not control and the infliction of pain for obediance. Women are not your property, but your equal, something you would never tolerate. If I can guess correctly, at night you suffer from stomach trouble, because of all the anger and hate you keep bottled up. Yes, sir, you are a Rush Limbaugh flunky troll prowling the internet looking for an outlet to all the pain you harbor in your soul. Is any wonder that Rush got rich from your kind because you are not alone, there being, millions registered in the Republican party, being screwed by your own masters and lied to by your favorite new program , Fraud News.

  • Anonymous

    End of discussion? No, it just getting started. Jim Bob, I know your secret. Deep down, you hate yourself, what you dish out is what you are deep inside. People with your personality type claim to love women, only to become wife-batterers, abuse their children physically or emotionally. It is so obvious that one of your parents must have also been a bigoted person or you grew up in an environment of hate. Let me guess, you come from the bible belt or some other strict religion that is non-tolerant and medieval. Sir, you don’t love women, because you don’t know what love means. It is not control and the infliction of pain for obediance. Women are not your property, but your equal, something you would never tolerate. If I can guess correctly, at night you suffer from stomach trouble, because of all the anger and hate you keep bottled up. Yes, sir, you are a Rush Limbaugh flunky troll prowling the internet looking for an outlet to all the pain you harbor in your soul. Is any wonder that Rush got rich from your kind because you are not alone, there being, millions registered in the Republican party, being screwed by your own masters and lied to by your favorite new program , Fraud News.

  • http://buzzcoastin.posterous.com BuzzCoastin

    I left right before 911 and I have never regretted it.

  • http://buzzcoastin.posterous.com BuzzCoastin

    I left right before 911 and I have never regretted it.

  • http://buzzcoastin.posterous.com BuzzCoastin

    I left right before 911 and I have never regretted it.

  • Anonymous

    Eisenhowers first draft said a CONGRESSIONAL-Military-Industrial-Complex. Suffice it to say that Congress ( as in walk-together) does now walk with us – We the People – at all.

  • Anonymous

    Eisenhowers first draft said a CONGRESSIONAL-Military-Industrial-Complex. Suffice it to say that Congress ( as in walk-together) does now walk with us – We the People – at all.

  • Anonymous

    Eisenhowers first draft said a CONGRESSIONAL-Military-Industrial-Complex. Suffice it to say that Congress ( as in walk-together) does now walk with us – We the People – at all.

  • http://buzzcoastin.posterous.com BuzzCoastin

    Dude, your splitting systematical hairs on this empire thing. The tentacles of the US are everywhere. The Japaneses tried to throw the US out of Okinawa and their PM got thrown-out instead. The signs of of the US’s imperious control are everywhere. Weather its officially titled an empire is irrelevant. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it’s pretty likely it is a duck.

  • http://buzzcoastin.posterous.com BuzzCoastin

    Dude, your splitting systematical hairs on this empire thing. The tentacles of the US are everywhere. The Japaneses tried to throw the US out of Okinawa and their PM got thrown-out instead. The signs of of the US’s imperious control are everywhere. Weather its officially titled an empire is irrelevant. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it’s pretty likely it is a duck.

  • http://buzzcoastin.posterous.com BuzzCoastin

    Dude, your splitting systematical hairs on this empire thing. The tentacles of the US are everywhere. The Japaneses tried to throw the US out of Okinawa and their PM got thrown-out instead. The signs of of the US’s imperious control are everywhere. Weather its officially titled an empire is irrelevant. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it’s pretty likely it is a duck.

  • Anonymous

    We are spending billions on these fucking bullshit wars.

  • Anonymous

    We are spending billions on these fucking bullshit wars.

  • Anonymous

    We are spending billions on these fucking bullshit wars.

  • http://buzzcoastin.posterous.com BuzzCoastin

    Dude, read a little history. China’s present boundaries go back a long way, longer than the US has existed. How many military bases does China have outside China? Zero. How many wars is China’s military involved in right now? Zero. The US military, including its mercenary forces, are twice the size of China’s. The US Navy is twice the size of China’s and China has no aircraft carriers, the US has 11. The US spends more on “defense” than the rest of the world combined.
    >They never gave Inner Mongolia back to Mongolia. The US never gave Hawaii back the Hawaiians; never gave back Puerto Rico to the Puerto Ricans; never gave Guam back to Guam; never gave Samoa back to the Samoans. OK, they did give the Philippines back to the Filipinos. But they have kept far more than they have ever returned.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Hundreds of billions. And even more on a military more expensive than the rest of the world combined.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_I5HTM5CY5UZM5SPAWRD3VOAFZ4 Cammy M

    Prof Michael Hudson in an interview at The Real News Network said that Fed QE 2 has already resulted in 600 billion increase to banks that have in turn invested it overseas. Not a drop is being invested in U.S. Every American should take note. It has been predicted that the U.S. is on the path to a neo-feudal state, where we are all but indebted serfs. The ignorance level by the majority of people in matters of their own government is the other concern. I am middle age, it will not be easy to leave but the younger folks should at least have a “plan B” on leaving.

    The Wikileaks and those invisible forces behind them (and Sorry but I do not believe the lines going around the internet that Israel Zionists are behind wikilieaks…) which probably includes an international effort, are designed to bring the U.S. down. The entire planet is sick of the U.S. It has been acting like a nazi fascist state for at least 9 years now, and then the world discovered that our Banksters were selling their junk securities and other highly leveraged trash around the planet.

    Now guess who gets to pay for all these crimes, lies, and misdemeanors? YOU and ME!!

    And hardly a peep from the people. But even though the people are ignorant it does not give these Corpo-political-banking parasites a mandate to do as they please and stick the bill up our asses.

    It never ceases to amaze me how so many people in the U.S. are so easily propagandized to the point that these Criminal elites get the Green-light and go-ahead by the very people they are screwing.

    Just Watch…. There will be people poor as church mice that will be talked into giving up their social security and paying more taxes. Hell, the criminals will even let rip a campaign to lower minimum wage and some of these people on minimum wage will say “Hell, yes”!!

  • yvonneo

    What lies you spew. And are you openly advocating genocide of certain segments of society that you don’t agree with? Wow. You nazis must be feeling quite empowered these days to openly advocate the murder of certain segments of the community. Like that guy you admire so much, Hitler, you probably want to hunt down and murder liberals, too. And you wouldn’t know what integrity, honor or patriotism was if it came up and punched you in the face.

    Also, where’s your proof that “being gay is a choice and not something you’re born with,” asswipe?

  • Anonymous

    If America was willing to re-declare its independence, what would that look like? What would a new Constitution look like?

    Maybe a general strike might help. There would be some pain, as there always is when people act in concert like that. But how else can you take your power back?

  • Anonymous

    You’re blaming unions and social welfare programs? Glenn Beck, I didn’t know you posted here!

  • http://twitter.com/AminCad AminCad

    Another idiot ‘social democracy’ supporter. The Medicare and Social Security entitlement deficit is a greater threat to America’s long term viability than all manner of corporate welfare, foreign intervention, and corruption combined.

  • Phil E. Drifter

    Perpetual debt. But better them than me.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RH6HGELIID7VRVUPITZCY3NJ2U 'Uncomfortably'Numb

    Dorothy’s Ruby (Silver) slippers have been stolen and nowhere to be found.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GZJSEDAWYJLPQENPOU22KAN2SU Dennis

    The greatest threat to this country is the Military, DHS and The FED. That is the triumverate that will kill America as we knew it.

    How on earth did we allow this to happen? Maybe this is God’s revenge for allowing our Government to in effect kill him.

  • http://twitter.com/dcmoses Dylan Moses

    idiot

  • Guest

    i blame you(and to some extent me) the docile masses.(…but mainly you)

  • http://twitter.com/AminCad AminCad
  • Guest

    DUMB ASS if you work you pay for social security its the”corporate welfare, foreign intervention, and corruption combined.” that have robbed the trust fund.

    p.s thanks obama for cutting the payroll tax and moving us one step closer to privatizing social security

  • Anonymous

    How did we allow this to happen, they used our own weaknesses and strengths against us. They used hate to divide us, they used exceptionalism of ones country/race etc. to think we are right and others are wrong. They used this and more to blind us to seeing the ones in power is stealing and killing in our name both here and abroad. Joseph Goebbels Hitlers propaganda minister has a quote that is true even today

    “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

    For them to get away with what they are doing, they have to keep us fat dumb and happy and our attention diverted to hating others. This way when they get done and even the dumbest and ignorant of us see we where conned and scammmed, it will be to late and they will be realizing this when they are in a detention camp for protesting against the cuts in food rations from the coming economic implosion.

  • Guest

    “If America was willing to re-declare its independence,”

    i don’t recall “america” declaring its independence, i do however have a vague memory of the 13 colonies declaring their independence, followed by a genocidal march across the continent, in the name of manifest destiny. that has now made it way to the ends of the earth.

  • http://twitter.com/RiaanFV Riaan F Venter

    you all seem to complain about how bad your governments are and the bad decisions it makes, yet you are the ones voting for them. you know they are lying to you. complacency is the method.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=530821179 Risa Bear

    I’m 61; when I had strength for “physically resisting,” I was in my twenties when I did jail time and risked my little skull for my country. Your turn, kids. I’ll make the chili.

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  • Guest

    G.k Chesterton utopia of usurers –
    “And if I ask myself what will be the ultimate and final fruit of all our social reforms, garden cities, model employers, insurances, exchanges, arbitration courts, and so on, then, I say, quite seriously, “I think it will be labour under the lash.”

  • Guest

    725 billion a year(not including emergency supplemental, nuclear weapons, intelligence homeland security, ect, ect, ect.)
    so id say trillions is more appropriate

  • Guest

    ah yes what bravery to stand up for whats rights as he walks out the door….

    i love all these presidents who as soon as they have no power realizes what is the right thing to do.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    Having sold all my possessions on turning 30, I left CanaDa, my Country, family, friends and the Past on September 1,1975, entering the US to discover the Spirit of ’76. The American people were so good to me on The Way, in looking back, that was one of the best periods of my life, and I will never forget the Goodness in the American People I experienced. Like the US always says about other Countries they don’t like, I love the People but not the governmental power.

    The Spirit of ’76 led me to places and scenes I could never have imagined.

    On September 13, 1976, page 3A, with the header, ´Prophet Chooses Park For Vigil´ The Kansas City Times recorded and reported on my visit to the City and the Republican National Convention. They report, in addition to other specifics, I was serving notice The Writing is on the Wall.

    “He came to town for the Republican National Convention and will stay until the election in November to do God’s bidding: To tell the world, from Kansas City, that this Country has been found wanting and it’s days are numbered”…………………………He gestured toward a gleaming church dome. “The gold dome is the symbol of Babylon,” he said.

    In a General sense, America and the world can see from 1976 to now, it has come to pass or at least on the way. I still harbour Hope the American People will wake up in time to get back on the charted course. There are other specifics in that record of Time history shows have also come to pass after the fact of the September 13, 1976 report. Judge for yourself.

    http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-65703

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    Before they were called Prophets, they were called SEERS.

    I have no doubt there are a lot of SEERS out there Today, who see things taking shape in the world most people don’t. Do not fear to speak up while there is still time. No doubt The Universe is unfolding as it should.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    Before they were called Prophets, they were called SEERS.

    I have no doubt there are a lot of SEERS out there Today, who see things taking shape in the world most people don’t. Do not fear to speak up while there is still time. No doubt The Universe is unfolding as it should.

  • Anonymous

    Well Davey, the south has all it needs to rise again. there is still good ag land. Growing the crop that the south’s industrialization was built around is very viable. That crop can then be processed in facilities nearby. The processed fibers can then be woven into cloth. The closth can then be transformed into clothing. This clothing can be then sold. All through this process it requires people to work the machines, do the paper work, load the trucks, drive the trucks. When the product is put into stores it requires workers there also. This whole process needs to have a system of roads to allow all the transfer. The roads need to be built and maintained. These workers have children that need to go to school to get oreoared to move into the work force. this goes on and on Davey.

    What you might think about is whay happened to that way of things. How is it that by the stores in the south are filled with clothing that is made in some foriegn land. I would think that there are people living right in your county that would be well served by a system were jobs for them producing and transporting and managing and selling and growing and bulding and maintaining.

    I would love to buy my t-shirts and shoes made in the South. The “enemy” has lead us to believe the the citizens of the USA are no longer a soveriegn nation with a Constitution that requires Duties to be placed on imports and fees to be collected as payment to all of the citizens on natural resources that are the property of the citizens. The reason that this is part of our foundation is to protect the citizens and facilitate a self sustaining society.

    Davey, there really isn’t an “Enemy” there are just some greedy business people that have manipulated us into a bag-o-shit

  • Anonymous

    Well Davey, the south has all it needs to rise again. there is still good ag land. Growing the crop that the south’s industrialization was built around is very viable. That crop can then be processed in facilities nearby. The processed fibers can then be woven into cloth. The closth can then be transformed into clothing. This clothing can be then sold. All through this process it requires people to work the machines, do the paper work, load the trucks, drive the trucks. When the product is put into stores it requires workers there also. This whole process needs to have a system of roads to allow all the transfer. The roads need to be built and maintained. These workers have children that need to go to school to get oreoared to move into the work force. this goes on and on Davey.

    What you might think about is whay happened to that way of things. How is it that by the stores in the south are filled with clothing that is made in some foriegn land. I would think that there are people living right in your county that would be well served by a system were jobs for them producing and transporting and managing and selling and growing and bulding and maintaining.

    I would love to buy my t-shirts and shoes made in the South. The “enemy” has lead us to believe the the citizens of the USA are no longer a soveriegn nation with a Constitution that requires Duties to be placed on imports and fees to be collected as payment to all of the citizens on natural resources that are the property of the citizens. The reason that this is part of our foundation is to protect the citizens and facilitate a self sustaining society.

    Davey, there really isn’t an “Enemy” there are just some greedy business people that have manipulated us into a bag-o-shit

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/GCPX7DXZGK2H2CPNYRR5IS5A64 Turnip Mcgee

    You’d likely come up next-to-empty at Knox. but might have better luck looking at the IMF. . . . who holds it on demand and in benefit for the BIS/World bank type predators.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/GCPX7DXZGK2H2CPNYRR5IS5A64 Turnip Mcgee

    You’d likely come up next-to-empty at Knox. but might have better luck looking at the IMF. . . . who holds it on demand and in benefit for the BIS/World bank type predators.

  • Anonymous

    Why don’t you provide numbers and sources of your research (you did that?) so we all can be educated.

  • Anonymous

    Why don’t you provide numbers and sources of your research (you did that?) so we all can be educated.

  • Anonymous

    It is wrong to generalize. There are those that know and still stand with courage.

  • Anonymous

    It is wrong to generalize. There are those that know and still stand with courage.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/GCPX7DXZGK2H2CPNYRR5IS5A64 Turnip Mcgee

    we are all poor really.

    if that statement isn’t true for you yet

    - just wait.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/GCPX7DXZGK2H2CPNYRR5IS5A64 Turnip Mcgee

    we are all poor really.

    if that statement isn’t true for you yet

    - just wait.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/GCPX7DXZGK2H2CPNYRR5IS5A64 Turnip Mcgee

    lol, you have 5 likes, so your trap worked.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/GCPX7DXZGK2H2CPNYRR5IS5A64 Turnip Mcgee

    lol, you have 5 likes, so your trap worked.

  • Anonymous

    You are absolutely wrong.

    Social Security is fully paid for in until at least 2037, unless the scumbag politicians, led by Obushbama, destroy it first. All they have to do to make SS completely viable forever is to remove the cap from 106,000 completely and make the filthy rich pay on everything they make.

    Medicare is in bad shape due to fraud and the politicians fucking it up by not allowing
    negotiated rates for drugs. Big Pharma is raping us blind. Medicare is not the problem,
    the way the politicians fuck with it is.

    And the way to pay for these programs and single payer health care is to stop these disgusting wars, and turn the military into a defensive force and not an offensive force.
    This will save billions if not trillions of dollars. Our military budget is sickening.

    Doing this will make it possible to pay for everything.

  • Anonymous

    You are absolutely wrong.

    Social Security is fully paid for in until at least 2037, unless the scumbag politicians, led by Obushbama, destroy it first. All they have to do to make SS completely viable forever is to remove the cap from 106,000 completely and make the filthy rich pay on everything they make.

    Medicare is in bad shape due to fraud and the politicians fucking it up by not allowing
    negotiated rates for drugs. Big Pharma is raping us blind. Medicare is not the problem,
    the way the politicians fuck with it is.

    And the way to pay for these programs and single payer health care is to stop these disgusting wars, and turn the military into a defensive force and not an offensive force.
    This will save billions if not trillions of dollars. Our military budget is sickening.

    Doing this will make it possible to pay for everything.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RZTZPSZHHZBGTFJACF5QJLHMU VICKI

    Looks like the U.S has swapped our factory jobs to become the world’s police force.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RZTZPSZHHZBGTFJACF5QJLHMU VICKI

    Looks like the U.S has swapped our factory jobs to become the world’s police force.

  • Anonymous

    No. We need to begin with establishing a movement of activists. Organize.
    Just railing on blogs is the current norm for too many of us.

    It’s been CAPITALISM vs. DEMOCRACY since the 1980s. Guess who’s winning.

  • Anonymous

    No. We need to begin with establishing a movement of activists. Organize.
    Just railing on blogs is the current norm for too many of us.

    It’s been CAPITALISM vs. DEMOCRACY since the 1980s. Guess who’s winning.

  • Anonymous

    …and the last great Roman Emperor, Marcus Aurelius, was succeeded by his idiot son who led Rome into the beginning of its fall.

  • Anonymous

    …and the last great Roman Emperor, Marcus Aurelius, was succeeded by his idiot son who led Rome into the beginning of its fall.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RZTZPSZHHZBGTFJACF5QJLHMU VICKI

    Sad, scary,and quite probable. To fix a date, how about 2012? Unlike the movie 2012, I have read Maya Cosmogenesis which indicates the ending of one world order and the beginning of another in two years.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RZTZPSZHHZBGTFJACF5QJLHMU VICKI

    Sad, scary,and quite probable. To fix a date, how about 2012? Unlike the movie 2012, I have read Maya Cosmogenesis which indicates the ending of one world order and the beginning of another in two years.

  • TheDevilCanDance

    Hey Ass-Monkey , you are not asking me to have “my lips dancing around your cock” today?
    Why?, Mummy already got the job done?. :)

    By the way, I hope you didn’t pay for the crappy tattoo. If i were you I would file a suit against the tattoo artist who put that piece of shit under my skin :)

  • TheDevilCanDance

    Hey Ass-Monkey , you are not asking me to have “my lips dancing around your cock” today?
    Why?, Mummy already got the job done?. :)

    By the way, I hope you didn’t pay for the crappy tattoo. If i were you I would file a suit against the tattoo artist who put that piece of shit under my skin :)

  • TheDevilCanDance

    Hey Ass-Monkey , you are not asking me to have “my lips dancing around your cock” today?
    Why?, Mummy already got the job done?. :)

    By the way, I hope you didn’t pay for the crappy tattoo. If i were you I would file a suit against the tattoo artist who put that piece of shit under my skin :)

  • TheDevilCanDance

    Hey Ass-Monkey , you are not asking me to have “my lips dancing around your cock” today?
    Why?, Mummy already got the job done?. :)

    By the way, I hope you didn’t pay for the crappy tattoo. If i were you I would file a suit against the tattoo artist who put that piece of shit under my skin :)

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  • Anonymous

    Ray, I sure hope with you the American people awaken in enough numbers, in enough time.
    While we all can pretty much agree that the Federal Reserve is the driving force behind much of the evil being unleashed in our world today, we must put forth a doable positive alternative, such as what is located here:
    http://www.ivamu.com/superpage.htm (Link to an informative Press Release on the same)
    God Bless your ongoing efforts, brother.

  • Anonymous

    Ray, I sure hope with you the American people awaken in enough numbers, in enough time.
    While we all can pretty much agree that the Federal Reserve is the driving force behind much of the evil being unleashed in our world today, we must put forth a doable positive alternative, such as what is located here:
    http://www.ivamu.com/superpage.htm (Link to an informative Press Release on the same)
    God Bless your ongoing efforts, brother.

  • Anonymous

    Ray, I sure hope with you the American people awaken in enough numbers, in enough time.
    While we all can pretty much agree that the Federal Reserve is the driving force behind much of the evil being unleashed in our world today, we must put forth a doable positive alternative, such as what is located here:
    http://www.ivamu.com/superpage.htm (Link to an informative Press Release on the same)
    God Bless your ongoing efforts, brother.

  • Anonymous

    Ray, I sure hope with you the American people awaken in enough numbers, in enough time.
    While we all can pretty much agree that the Federal Reserve is the driving force behind much of the evil being unleashed in our world today, we must put forth a doable positive alternative, such as what is located here:
    http://www.ivamu.com/superpage.htm (Link to an informative Press Release on the same)
    God Bless your ongoing efforts, brother.

  • Anonymous

    What WE do need is a clear statement of what We, the People need and need to hold most valuable. Looking to business and D.C. must be jettisoned immediately. Working together must become our foundational axiom. Expanding the WE must happen because of what we accomplish.

  • Anonymous

    What WE do need is a clear statement of what We, the People need and need to hold most valuable. Looking to business and D.C. must be jettisoned immediately. Working together must become our foundational axiom. Expanding the WE must happen because of what we accomplish.

  • Anonymous

    What WE do need is a clear statement of what We, the People need and need to hold most valuable. Looking to business and D.C. must be jettisoned immediately. Working together must become our foundational axiom. Expanding the WE must happen because of what we accomplish.

  • Anonymous

    What WE do need is a clear statement of what We, the People need and need to hold most valuable. Looking to business and D.C. must be jettisoned immediately. Working together must become our foundational axiom. Expanding the WE must happen because of what we accomplish.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dennis-Spain/675272687 Dennis Spain

    End the debt-based monetary system that supports the entire apparatus of deceit. Return to a constitutional money, and for God’s sakes, at least expose, if not downright outlaw, fractional-reserve banking.

    Buy silver, crash JP Morgan.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dennis-Spain/675272687 Dennis Spain

    End the debt-based monetary system that supports the entire apparatus of deceit. Return to a constitutional money, and for God’s sakes, at least expose, if not downright outlaw, fractional-reserve banking.

    Buy silver, crash JP Morgan.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dennis-Spain/675272687 Dennis Spain

    End the debt-based monetary system that supports the entire apparatus of deceit. Return to a constitutional money, and for God’s sakes, at least expose, if not downright outlaw, fractional-reserve banking.

    Buy silver, crash JP Morgan.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dennis-Spain/675272687 Dennis Spain

    End the debt-based monetary system that supports the entire apparatus of deceit. Return to a constitutional money, and for God’s sakes, at least expose, if not downright outlaw, fractional-reserve banking.

    Buy silver, crash JP Morgan.

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  • Anonymous

    to rewrite Twain, rumors of the Empire’s early demise have been greatly exaggerated

    of course there are any possible future catastrophic scenerios that ‘could’ happen, or any small ones that together ‘could’ bring an end to american hegemony but capitalism and the US at the helm have proved themselves to be remarkable adept and adaptable. a defeat in afgan-i-Nam isn’t going to be the end of the Empire. I assume that as with all Empires in the past, the American Empire will fade or collapse somewhat rapidly but i remain skeptical of this kind of prophecy as I have lived too long and read too much to take these predictions too seriously, though I find it interesting to speculate…what it would be that could bring down goliath

  • Anonymous

    to rewrite Twain, rumors of the Empire’s early demise have been greatly exaggerated

    of course there are any possible future catastrophic scenerios that ‘could’ happen, or any small ones that together ‘could’ bring an end to american hegemony but capitalism and the US at the helm have proved themselves to be remarkable adept and adaptable. a defeat in afgan-i-Nam isn’t going to be the end of the Empire. I assume that as with all Empires in the past, the American Empire will fade or collapse somewhat rapidly but i remain skeptical of this kind of prophecy as I have lived too long and read too much to take these predictions too seriously, though I find it interesting to speculate…what it would be that could bring down goliath

  • Anonymous

    to rewrite Twain, rumors of the Empire’s early demise have been greatly exaggerated

    of course there are any possible future catastrophic scenerios that ‘could’ happen, or any small ones that together ‘could’ bring an end to american hegemony but capitalism and the US at the helm have proved themselves to be remarkable adept and adaptable. a defeat in afgan-i-Nam isn’t going to be the end of the Empire. I assume that as with all Empires in the past, the American Empire will fade or collapse somewhat rapidly but i remain skeptical of this kind of prophecy as I have lived too long and read too much to take these predictions too seriously, though I find it interesting to speculate…what it would be that could bring down goliath

  • Anonymous

    to rewrite Twain, rumors of the Empire’s early demise have been greatly exaggerated

    of course there are any possible future catastrophic scenerios that ‘could’ happen, or any small ones that together ‘could’ bring an end to american hegemony but capitalism and the US at the helm have proved themselves to be remarkable adept and adaptable. a defeat in afgan-i-Nam isn’t going to be the end of the Empire. I assume that as with all Empires in the past, the American Empire will fade or collapse somewhat rapidly but i remain skeptical of this kind of prophecy as I have lived too long and read too much to take these predictions too seriously, though I find it interesting to speculate…what it would be that could bring down goliath

  • Anonymous

    personally if i were forced to choose 3 possible fairly catastrohic scenerios that might or could perhaps End the Empire, they would be: an economic collapse basically a run on the dollar where it loses all its value and thus would no longer be the world currency and hence the US would overnight become a debtor nation; a major war with iran or some adversary such as that in which oil were cut off to europe, china and japan, basically precipitating #1 above; or some catastrophic ecological disaster we cant even imagine or consider yet where perhaps the midwest and the CA valley became deserts within a year or less etc and the US couldn’t feed itself or temperatures dropped and or went up so much agriculture was ruined world wide etc…; or 4, if there were a large enough nuclear exchange by any of 2 or more the nuclear powers that set off a nuclear winter in the northern hemisphere.
    or even #5, there were a series of general uprising throughout the third world, mostly aimed at the US and its proxy powers like france and the UK…

  • Anonymous

    personally if i were forced to choose 3 possible fairly catastrohic scenerios that might or could perhaps End the Empire, they would be: an economic collapse basically a run on the dollar where it loses all its value and thus would no longer be the world currency and hence the US would overnight become a debtor nation; a major war with iran or some adversary such as that in which oil were cut off to europe, china and japan, basically precipitating #1 above; or some catastrophic ecological disaster we cant even imagine or consider yet where perhaps the midwest and the CA valley became deserts within a year or less etc and the US couldn’t feed itself or temperatures dropped and or went up so much agriculture was ruined world wide etc…; or 4, if there were a large enough nuclear exchange by any of 2 or more the nuclear powers that set off a nuclear winter in the northern hemisphere.
    or even #5, there were a series of general uprising throughout the third world, mostly aimed at the US and its proxy powers like france and the UK…

  • Anonymous

    personally if i were forced to choose 3 possible fairly catastrohic scenerios that might or could perhaps End the Empire, they would be: an economic collapse basically a run on the dollar where it loses all its value and thus would no longer be the world currency and hence the US would overnight become a debtor nation; a major war with iran or some adversary such as that in which oil were cut off to europe, china and japan, basically precipitating #1 above; or some catastrophic ecological disaster we cant even imagine or consider yet where perhaps the midwest and the CA valley became deserts within a year or less etc and the US couldn’t feed itself or temperatures dropped and or went up so much agriculture was ruined world wide etc…; or 4, if there were a large enough nuclear exchange by any of 2 or more the nuclear powers that set off a nuclear winter in the northern hemisphere.
    or even #5, there were a series of general uprising throughout the third world, mostly aimed at the US and its proxy powers like france and the UK…

  • Anonymous

    Wikileaks has proven there is a battle for information going on. Mainstream media is controlled by the government and corporations, and websites like this are the only source of even mildly uncontrolled media. Jesse Ventura’s “Conspiracy Theory” did an episode called “Prison State” and it aired once, after that TBS took it out of the rotation and removed all mentions of the episode from their website. It still lives online, thankfully the internet is still free, for now. For real news check out http://www.infowars.com .

  • Anonymous

    Wikileaks has proven there is a battle for information going on. Mainstream media is controlled by the government and corporations, and websites like this are the only source of even mildly uncontrolled media. Jesse Ventura’s “Conspiracy Theory” did an episode called “Prison State” and it aired once, after that TBS took it out of the rotation and removed all mentions of the episode from their website. It still lives online, thankfully the internet is still free, for now. For real news check out http://www.infowars.com .

  • Anonymous

    Wikileaks has proven there is a battle for information going on. Mainstream media is controlled by the government and corporations, and websites like this are the only source of even mildly uncontrolled media. Jesse Ventura’s “Conspiracy Theory” did an episode called “Prison State” and it aired once, after that TBS took it out of the rotation and removed all mentions of the episode from their website. It still lives online, thankfully the internet is still free, for now. For real news check out http://www.infowars.com .

  • http://SALON WHITE DRAGON

    The two can’t be separate. Adam Smith (1700s) knew it.
    ‘We exist and progress by producing and selling things to others.’ Ces’t tout.

  • http://SALON WHITE DRAGON

    The two can’t be separate. Adam Smith (1700s) knew it.
    ‘We exist and progress by producing and selling things to others.’ Ces’t tout.

  • http://SALON WHITE DRAGON

    The two can’t be separate. Adam Smith (1700s) knew it.
    ‘We exist and progress by producing and selling things to others.’ Ces’t tout.

  • Anonymous

    Your so very wrong the SS trust fund is a bunch of nonnegotiable bonds in a gray file cabinet. Really just IOU’s from the government. SS isn’t payed up to yesterday. Your class warfare and envy isn’t going to get you squat. Your dreaming yourself a nightmare. These ponzi schemes never had a chance and they will go bust all over the world not just here.

  • Anonymous

    Your so very wrong the SS trust fund is a bunch of nonnegotiable bonds in a gray file cabinet. Really just IOU’s from the government. SS isn’t payed up to yesterday. Your class warfare and envy isn’t going to get you squat. Your dreaming yourself a nightmare. These ponzi schemes never had a chance and they will go bust all over the world not just here.

  • Anonymous

    Your so very wrong the SS trust fund is a bunch of nonnegotiable bonds in a gray file cabinet. Really just IOU’s from the government. SS isn’t payed up to yesterday. Your class warfare and envy isn’t going to get you squat. Your dreaming yourself a nightmare. These ponzi schemes never had a chance and they will go bust all over the world not just here.

  • Anonymous

    Your so very wrong the SS trust fund is a bunch of nonnegotiable bonds in a gray file cabinet. Really just IOU’s from the government. SS isn’t payed up to yesterday. Your class warfare and envy isn’t going to get you squat. Your dreaming yourself a nightmare. These ponzi schemes never had a chance and they will go bust all over the world not just here.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QTVISVGIIB6ENQGIENKIDRL55A Bri Jordan

    exactly, you don’t know shit, stop reading the progressive version of history you dumb bitch. Nazis where not christian, they where progressive state socialists who didn’t believe in God. Same fucking ideas as our current president and same fucking ideas as most the dumb asses commenting on this site. Fuck government, fuck you pussys, and fuck your mom……. Classic!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QTVISVGIIB6ENQGIENKIDRL55A Bri Jordan

    exactly, you don’t know shit, stop reading the progressive version of history you dumb bitch. Nazis where not christian, they where progressive state socialists who didn’t believe in God. Same fucking ideas as our current president and same fucking ideas as most the dumb asses commenting on this site. Fuck government, fuck you pussys, and fuck your mom……. Classic!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QTVISVGIIB6ENQGIENKIDRL55A Bri Jordan

    exactly, you don’t know shit, stop reading the progressive version of history you dumb bitch. Nazis where not christian, they where progressive state socialists who didn’t believe in God. Same fucking ideas as our current president and same fucking ideas as most the dumb asses commenting on this site. Fuck government, fuck you pussys, and fuck your mom……. Classic!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QTVISVGIIB6ENQGIENKIDRL55A Bri Jordan

    exactly, you don’t know shit, stop reading the progressive version of history you dumb bitch. Nazis where not christian, they where progressive state socialists who didn’t believe in God. Same fucking ideas as our current president and same fucking ideas as most the dumb asses commenting on this site. Fuck government, fuck you pussys, and fuck your mom……. Classic!

  • TheDevilCanDance

    You undereducated piece of trailer park white trash. ….

    “they where progressive state socialists who didn’t believe in God”

    Here is your hero Adolf Hitler (the atheist) :http://www.bedfordgaol.com/hitler8.jpg

    In volume I, at the end of chapter 2 of Mein Kampf, Hitler said: “Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.”

    In chapter 13 of volume 2, Hitler mentions the German people asking God to bless their troops:
    You Christians slime are a virus to humanity,…..

  • TheDevilCanDance

    You undereducated piece of trailer park white trash. ….

    “they where progressive state socialists who didn’t believe in God”

    Here is your hero Adolf Hitler (the atheist) :http://www.bedfordgaol.com/hitler8.jpg

    In volume I, at the end of chapter 2 of Mein Kampf, Hitler said: “Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.”

    In chapter 13 of volume 2, Hitler mentions the German people asking God to bless their troops:
    You Christians slime are a virus to humanity,…..

  • TheDevilCanDance

    You undereducated piece of trailer park white trash. ….

    “they where progressive state socialists who didn’t believe in God”

    Here is your hero Adolf Hitler (the atheist) :http://www.bedfordgaol.com/hitler8.jpg

    In volume I, at the end of chapter 2 of Mein Kampf, Hitler said: “Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.”

    In chapter 13 of volume 2, Hitler mentions the German people asking God to bless their troops:
    You Christians slime are a virus to humanity,…..

  • TheDevilCanDance

    You undereducated piece of trailer park white trash. ….

    “they where progressive state socialists who didn’t believe in God”

    Here is your hero Adolf Hitler (the atheist) :http://www.bedfordgaol.com/hitler8.jpg

    In volume I, at the end of chapter 2 of Mein Kampf, Hitler said: “Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.”

    In chapter 13 of volume 2, Hitler mentions the German people asking God to bless their troops:
    You Christians slime are a virus to humanity,…..

  • TheDevilCanDance

    “Collapse of the west. It is the acceptance of progressive policies”

    Lol, with the help of an institution of boy fuckers & pedophiles, known as the church….

  • TheDevilCanDance

    “Collapse of the west. It is the acceptance of progressive policies”

    Lol, with the help of an institution of boy fuckers & pedophiles, known as the church….

  • TheDevilCanDance

    “Collapse of the west. It is the acceptance of progressive policies”

    Lol, with the help of an institution of boy fuckers & pedophiles, known as the church….

  • TheDevilCanDance

    “Collapse of the west. It is the acceptance of progressive policies”

    Lol, with the help of an institution of boy fuckers & pedophiles, known as the church….

  • TheDevilCanDance

    Yes indeed, you National socialist bastard, so much for Christian sovereignty ……

    http://emperor.vwh.net/images/bishops.jpg

    http://emperor.vwh.net/vatican/cpix.htm

  • TheDevilCanDance

    Yes indeed, you National socialist bastard, so much for Christian sovereignty ……

    http://emperor.vwh.net/images/bishops.jpg

    http://emperor.vwh.net/vatican/cpix.htm

  • TheDevilCanDance

    Yes indeed, you National socialist bastard, so much for Christian sovereignty ……

    http://emperor.vwh.net/images/bishops.jpg

    http://emperor.vwh.net/vatican/cpix.htm

  • TheDevilCanDance

    Yes indeed, you National socialist bastard, so much for Christian sovereignty ……

    http://emperor.vwh.net/images/bishops.jpg

    http://emperor.vwh.net/vatican/cpix.htm

  • Anonymous

    As for the corporate coup d’etat, it has been underway since 1776, most likely.

    June 21st, 1788 the day that liberty was lost.
    ‘I smell a rat!’
    Patrick Henry

  • Anonymous

    As for the corporate coup d’etat, it has been underway since 1776, most likely.

    June 21st, 1788 the day that liberty was lost.
    ‘I smell a rat!’
    Patrick Henry

  • Anonymous

    As for the corporate coup d’etat, it has been underway since 1776, most likely.

    June 21st, 1788 the day that liberty was lost.
    ‘I smell a rat!’
    Patrick Henry

  • Anonymous

    As for the corporate coup d’etat, it has been underway since 1776, most likely.

    June 21st, 1788 the day that liberty was lost.
    ‘I smell a rat!’
    Patrick Henry

  • Anonymous

    Aye, there’s the rub, ‘producing’.

  • Anonymous

    Aye, there’s the rub, ‘producing’.

  • Anonymous

    Aye, there’s the rub, ‘producing’.

  • Anonymous

    Aye, there’s the rub, ‘producing’.

  • http://dailyqueernews.com/archives/3336 Lesbian Activist Courageous Account of Anti-Gay Torment in Uganda, Iowa GOP Lawmakers Want to Impeach Justice Who Struck Down Gay Marriage Ban, GOP Senators Ready to Vote Against DADT, Aides Say, and more… » DailyQueerNews.com

    [...] US Empire Could Collapse at Any Time, Pulitzer Winner Tells Raw Story. Read more  [...]

  • Eyeball_Kid

    So what would you plan to do about the vulnerable, the aged, the sick? Make cat food out of them? What would you want for your kids if they got sick and couldn’t afford a 30k surgery? Shop for a $50.00 surgery? Ask them if they could help you dig their graves as they deteriorated?

    If your father were 92 and lost his pension, and Soc. Security were abolished, how would he live? How would he get his cataract surgery? Would you tell him that he’ll just have to go blind because he has no insurance?

    You may be able to talk a wonderful line as long as you distance yourself from human problems.

    Our health care and social safety net issues are life and death issues. We are either humane and we care for the weaker and less fortunate, or we become ruthless barbarians and kill off the less “productive” because we just don’t want to bother with caring for them. What’s your choice? If you choose the latter, remember that SOMEONE has to determine who is expendable and who isn’t, and who will set the standard for survivability. And someday, YOU will fall below that totally arbitrary standard, and someone will be coming for YOU.

  • Eyeball_Kid

    So what would you plan to do about the vulnerable, the aged, the sick? Make cat food out of them? What would you want for your kids if they got sick and couldn’t afford a 30k surgery? Shop for a $50.00 surgery? Ask them if they could help you dig their graves as they deteriorated?

    If your father were 92 and lost his pension, and Soc. Security were abolished, how would he live? How would he get his cataract surgery? Would you tell him that he’ll just have to go blind because he has no insurance?

    You may be able to talk a wonderful line as long as you distance yourself from human problems.

    Our health care and social safety net issues are life and death issues. We are either humane and we care for the weaker and less fortunate, or we become ruthless barbarians and kill off the less “productive” because we just don’t want to bother with caring for them. What’s your choice? If you choose the latter, remember that SOMEONE has to determine who is expendable and who isn’t, and who will set the standard for survivability. And someday, YOU will fall below that totally arbitrary standard, and someone will be coming for YOU.

  • Eyeball_Kid

    So what would you plan to do about the vulnerable, the aged, the sick? Make cat food out of them? What would you want for your kids if they got sick and couldn’t afford a 30k surgery? Shop for a $50.00 surgery? Ask them if they could help you dig their graves as they deteriorated?

    If your father were 92 and lost his pension, and Soc. Security were abolished, how would he live? How would he get his cataract surgery? Would you tell him that he’ll just have to go blind because he has no insurance?

    You may be able to talk a wonderful line as long as you distance yourself from human problems.

    Our health care and social safety net issues are life and death issues. We are either humane and we care for the weaker and less fortunate, or we become ruthless barbarians and kill off the less “productive” because we just don’t want to bother with caring for them. What’s your choice? If you choose the latter, remember that SOMEONE has to determine who is expendable and who isn’t, and who will set the standard for survivability. And someday, YOU will fall below that totally arbitrary standard, and someone will be coming for YOU.

  • Eyeball_Kid

    So what would you plan to do about the vulnerable, the aged, the sick? Make cat food out of them? What would you want for your kids if they got sick and couldn’t afford a 30k surgery? Shop for a $50.00 surgery? Ask them if they could help you dig their graves as they deteriorated?

    If your father were 92 and lost his pension, and Soc. Security were abolished, how would he live? How would he get his cataract surgery? Would you tell him that he’ll just have to go blind because he has no insurance?

    You may be able to talk a wonderful line as long as you distance yourself from human problems.

    Our health care and social safety net issues are life and death issues. We are either humane and we care for the weaker and less fortunate, or we become ruthless barbarians and kill off the less “productive” because we just don’t want to bother with caring for them. What’s your choice? If you choose the latter, remember that SOMEONE has to determine who is expendable and who isn’t, and who will set the standard for survivability. And someday, YOU will fall below that totally arbitrary standard, and someone will be coming for YOU.

  • http://jsebrech.myopenid.com/ Joeri

    A government-run healthcare or welfare system is an insurance policy that everyone is obligated by law to get. If insurance works perfectly fine for part of the population when it is organized by a private organization, why does it suddenly fail when organized for all of the population by the government?

  • http://jsebrech.myopenid.com/ Joeri

    A government-run healthcare or welfare system is an insurance policy that everyone is obligated by law to get. If insurance works perfectly fine for part of the population when it is organized by a private organization, why does it suddenly fail when organized for all of the population by the government?

  • http://jsebrech.myopenid.com/ Joeri

    A government-run healthcare or welfare system is an insurance policy that everyone is obligated by law to get. If insurance works perfectly fine for part of the population when it is organized by a private organization, why does it suddenly fail when organized for all of the population by the government?

  • http://jsebrech.myopenid.com/ Joeri

    A government-run healthcare or welfare system is an insurance policy that everyone is obligated by law to get. If insurance works perfectly fine for part of the population when it is organized by a private organization, why does it suddenly fail when organized for all of the population by the government?

  • http://www.costarikker.blogspot.com Motelcalifornia

    Okay, I get it. Everybody loves an empire sometime,
    Everybody feels oppressed somehow.
    Something in your comments just told me that the US is an empire now

  • http://www.costarikker.blogspot.com Motelcalifornia

    Okay, I get it. Everybody loves an empire sometime,
    Everybody feels oppressed somehow.
    Something in your comments just told me that the US is an empire now

  • http://www.costarikker.blogspot.com Motelcalifornia

    Okay, I get it. Everybody loves an empire sometime,
    Everybody feels oppressed somehow.
    Something in your comments just told me that the US is an empire now

  • http://www.costarikker.blogspot.com Motelcalifornia

    Okay, I get it. Everybody loves an empire sometime,
    Everybody feels oppressed somehow.
    Something in your comments just told me that the US is an empire now

  • Anonymous

    >95% of humanity would be happy if the US empire collapses for the reasons that the country was thre greatest parasite and the greatest enemy of peoples of non-European descent.
    Many call the US also the most deceitful superpower ever.
    A so-called humanitarian image of the US is hyped in the US when in reality the country is the greatest enemy of colored peoples and a parasite.
    Even US’s status as superpower depends on the willingness of other countries to allow the dollar to keep its privilege as world reserve currency.
    Should countries like China,Russia,Japan and the oil exporting Arab countries decide to ditch the dollar US ceases to be a superpower, so dependent is the US from other countries.

  • Anonymous

    >95% of humanity would be happy if the US empire collapses for the reasons that the country was thre greatest parasite and the greatest enemy of peoples of non-European descent.
    Many call the US also the most deceitful superpower ever.
    A so-called humanitarian image of the US is hyped in the US when in reality the country is the greatest enemy of colored peoples and a parasite.
    Even US’s status as superpower depends on the willingness of other countries to allow the dollar to keep its privilege as world reserve currency.
    Should countries like China,Russia,Japan and the oil exporting Arab countries decide to ditch the dollar US ceases to be a superpower, so dependent is the US from other countries.

  • Anonymous

    >95% of humanity would be happy if the US empire collapses for the reasons that the country was thre greatest parasite and the greatest enemy of peoples of non-European descent.
    Many call the US also the most deceitful superpower ever.
    A so-called humanitarian image of the US is hyped in the US when in reality the country is the greatest enemy of colored peoples and a parasite.
    Even US’s status as superpower depends on the willingness of other countries to allow the dollar to keep its privilege as world reserve currency.
    Should countries like China,Russia,Japan and the oil exporting Arab countries decide to ditch the dollar US ceases to be a superpower, so dependent is the US from other countries.

  • Anonymous

    >95% of humanity would be happy if the US empire collapses for the reasons that the country was thre greatest parasite and the greatest enemy of peoples of non-European descent.
    Many call the US also the most deceitful superpower ever.
    A so-called humanitarian image of the US is hyped in the US when in reality the country is the greatest enemy of colored peoples and a parasite.
    Even US’s status as superpower depends on the willingness of other countries to allow the dollar to keep its privilege as world reserve currency.
    Should countries like China,Russia,Japan and the oil exporting Arab countries decide to ditch the dollar US ceases to be a superpower, so dependent is the US from other countries.

  • Anonymous

    >95% of humanity would be happy if the US empire collapses for the reasons that the country was thre greatest parasite and the greatest enemy of peoples of non-European descent.
    Many call the US also the most deceitful superpower ever.
    A so-called humanitarian image of the US is hyped in the US when in reality the country is the greatest enemy of colored peoples and a parasite.
    Even US’s status as superpower depends on the willingness of other countries to allow the dollar to keep its privilege as world reserve currency.
    Should countries like China,Russia,Japan and the oil exporting Arab countries decide to ditch the dollar US ceases to be a superpower, so dependent is the US from other countries.

  • 1984

    Never voted for either party

  • 1984

    Never voted for either party

  • 1984

    Never voted for either party

  • 1984

    Never voted for either party

  • 1984

    Kick out the lobbyists and their wealthy friends asking for special services at DC and you’d see things improve. And tame the MIC and you’ll come a long way.

  • 1984

    Kick out the lobbyists and their wealthy friends asking for special services at DC and you’d see things improve. And tame the MIC and you’ll come a long way.

  • 1984

    Kick out the lobbyists and their wealthy friends asking for special services at DC and you’d see things improve. And tame the MIC and you’ll come a long way.

  • 1984

    Kick out the lobbyists and their wealthy friends asking for special services at DC and you’d see things improve. And tame the MIC and you’ll come a long way.

  • 1984

    Your morals are not my morals. Praise Jebus (not)
    The biggest moral corrupter is money btw.

  • 1984

    Your morals are not my morals. Praise Jebus (not)
    The biggest moral corrupter is money btw.

  • 1984

    Your morals are not my morals. Praise Jebus (not)
    The biggest moral corrupter is money btw.

  • 1984

    Your morals are not my morals. Praise Jebus (not)
    The biggest moral corrupter is money btw.

  • 1984

    So when did you decide to be heterosexual?

  • 1984

    So when did you decide to be heterosexual?

  • 1984

    So when did you decide to be heterosexual?

  • 1984

    So when did you decide to be heterosexual?

  • 1984

    So when did you decide to be heterosexual?

  • 1984

    You can’t answer do you? When did you decide?

  • 1984

    You can’t answer do you? When did you decide?

  • 1984

    You can’t answer do you? When did you decide?

  • 1984

    You can’t answer do you? When did you decide?

  • Anonymous

    for YOUR money? You cruise around on taxpayer paid roads, took advantage of schools that were paid for by taxpayers including those seniors, long after they had kids in school, you sneer at and use much subsidized healthcare. And those “entitlements” you call largess were in the main paid for by people in advance; that is why they are called entitlements. You are entitled to what you paid for.

    You really need to thank the unions — they are the ones who fought for the 8 hour day and the 5 day work week. Your midlevel job, for as long as you can get to keep it, was 10-12 hour, 6 day a week deal. We were strong and prosperous when unions were strong. When the plutocrats worked at killing them off the middle class was and is being shorted just to benefit the upper class, the top 2%.

    Actually the post office gets no more money from the government beyond what is required for all the government mail that is franked; you know those freebie newsletters you get from your Congress critters and other things like tax forms. Or do you even pay taxes?

    We can reduce debt most easily by increasing income — that is by raising taxes in a progressive manner as we have had it during the 20th century — before Reagan that is, who shifted the tax load down onto the middle classes. The biggest tax cut ever was passed by Reagan in 1982 and the biggest rise in taxes was passed by Reagan in 1983 (see the IRS, statistics site). That’s when the middle glass slide began.

    Criticizing government comes cheap but you need to distinguish between who is running things. FEMA was a great agency under Clinton but was useless under GW Bush. It is working well again under Obama because the Democratic Presidents appoint the best professionals to run it, while Bush appointed a campaign aid’s friend who didn’t know or care about anything — and proved it.

    Republicans think government can’t do anything right and appoint idiots to prove it. Democrats think the government can do things well and try to appoint the best people to suitable positions and demand they make them function. Then they usually do function.

    Most government agencies work well except when Congress tries to gum them up. You don’t recognize the subsidies that go to what you use; roads and aviation have been subsidized from the start; trains which are more efficient should be subsidized too. I just wish the governments would stop subsidizing churches and private schools.

    You could buy American made products if you stopped buying that cheap shit from China and go for quality rather than quantity.

  • Anonymous

    for YOUR money? You cruise around on taxpayer paid roads, took advantage of schools that were paid for by taxpayers including those seniors, long after they had kids in school, you sneer at and use much subsidized healthcare. And those “entitlements” you call largess were in the main paid for by people in advance; that is why they are called entitlements. You are entitled to what you paid for.

    You really need to thank the unions — they are the ones who fought for the 8 hour day and the 5 day work week. Your midlevel job, for as long as you can get to keep it, was 10-12 hour, 6 day a week deal. We were strong and prosperous when unions were strong. When the plutocrats worked at killing them off the middle class was and is being shorted just to benefit the upper class, the top 2%.

    Actually the post office gets no more money from the government beyond what is required for all the government mail that is franked; you know those freebie newsletters you get from your Congress critters and other things like tax forms. Or do you even pay taxes?

    We can reduce debt most easily by increasing income — that is by raising taxes in a progressive manner as we have had it during the 20th century — before Reagan that is, who shifted the tax load down onto the middle classes. The biggest tax cut ever was passed by Reagan in 1982 and the biggest rise in taxes was passed by Reagan in 1983 (see the IRS, statistics site). That’s when the middle glass slide began.

    Criticizing government comes cheap but you need to distinguish between who is running things. FEMA was a great agency under Clinton but was useless under GW Bush. It is working well again under Obama because the Democratic Presidents appoint the best professionals to run it, while Bush appointed a campaign aid’s friend who didn’t know or care about anything — and proved it.

    Republicans think government can’t do anything right and appoint idiots to prove it. Democrats think the government can do things well and try to appoint the best people to suitable positions and demand they make them function. Then they usually do function.

    Most government agencies work well except when Congress tries to gum them up. You don’t recognize the subsidies that go to what you use; roads and aviation have been subsidized from the start; trains which are more efficient should be subsidized too. I just wish the governments would stop subsidizing churches and private schools.

    You could buy American made products if you stopped buying that cheap shit from China and go for quality rather than quantity.

  • Anonymous

    for YOUR money? You cruise around on taxpayer paid roads, took advantage of schools that were paid for by taxpayers including those seniors, long after they had kids in school, you sneer at and use much subsidized healthcare. And those “entitlements” you call largess were in the main paid for by people in advance; that is why they are called entitlements. You are entitled to what you paid for.

    You really need to thank the unions — they are the ones who fought for the 8 hour day and the 5 day work week. Your midlevel job, for as long as you can get to keep it, was 10-12 hour, 6 day a week deal. We were strong and prosperous when unions were strong. When the plutocrats worked at killing them off the middle class was and is being shorted just to benefit the upper class, the top 2%.

    Actually the post office gets no more money from the government beyond what is required for all the government mail that is franked; you know those freebie newsletters you get from your Congress critters and other things like tax forms. Or do you even pay taxes?

    We can reduce debt most easily by increasing income — that is by raising taxes in a progressive manner as we have had it during the 20th century — before Reagan that is, who shifted the tax load down onto the middle classes. The biggest tax cut ever was passed by Reagan in 1982 and the biggest rise in taxes was passed by Reagan in 1983 (see the IRS, statistics site). That’s when the middle glass slide began.

    Criticizing government comes cheap but you need to distinguish between who is running things. FEMA was a great agency under Clinton but was useless under GW Bush. It is working well again under Obama because the Democratic Presidents appoint the best professionals to run it, while Bush appointed a campaign aid’s friend who didn’t know or care about anything — and proved it.

    Republicans think government can’t do anything right and appoint idiots to prove it. Democrats think the government can do things well and try to appoint the best people to suitable positions and demand they make them function. Then they usually do function.

    Most government agencies work well except when Congress tries to gum them up. You don’t recognize the subsidies that go to what you use; roads and aviation have been subsidized from the start; trains which are more efficient should be subsidized too. I just wish the governments would stop subsidizing churches and private schools.

    You could buy American made products if you stopped buying that cheap shit from China and go for quality rather than quantity.

  • Anonymous

    for YOUR money? You cruise around on taxpayer paid roads, took advantage of schools that were paid for by taxpayers including those seniors, long after they had kids in school, you sneer at and use much subsidized healthcare. And those “entitlements” you call largess were in the main paid for by people in advance; that is why they are called entitlements. You are entitled to what you paid for.

    You really need to thank the unions — they are the ones who fought for the 8 hour day and the 5 day work week. Your midlevel job, for as long as you can get to keep it, was 10-12 hour, 6 day a week deal. We were strong and prosperous when unions were strong. When the plutocrats worked at killing them off the middle class was and is being shorted just to benefit the upper class, the top 2%.

    Actually the post office gets no more money from the government beyond what is required for all the government mail that is franked; you know those freebie newsletters you get from your Congress critters and other things like tax forms. Or do you even pay taxes?

    We can reduce debt most easily by increasing income — that is by raising taxes in a progressive manner as we have had it during the 20th century — before Reagan that is, who shifted the tax load down onto the middle classes. The biggest tax cut ever was passed by Reagan in 1982 and the biggest rise in taxes was passed by Reagan in 1983 (see the IRS, statistics site). That’s when the middle glass slide began.

    Criticizing government comes cheap but you need to distinguish between who is running things. FEMA was a great agency under Clinton but was useless under GW Bush. It is working well again under Obama because the Democratic Presidents appoint the best professionals to run it, while Bush appointed a campaign aid’s friend who didn’t know or care about anything — and proved it.

    Republicans think government can’t do anything right and appoint idiots to prove it. Democrats think the government can do things well and try to appoint the best people to suitable positions and demand they make them function. Then they usually do function.

    Most government agencies work well except when Congress tries to gum them up. You don’t recognize the subsidies that go to what you use; roads and aviation have been subsidized from the start; trains which are more efficient should be subsidized too. I just wish the governments would stop subsidizing churches and private schools.

    You could buy American made products if you stopped buying that cheap shit from China and go for quality rather than quantity.

  • http://www.leosigh.com Leo Sigh

    It might be ‘priced in dollars’ in Central America, which was overthrown BY America decades ago, but it’s not priced in ‘dollars’ in Europe, the Middle East or anywhere in Asia. The dollar is done. In Thailand, where I live, it’s fallen 30% in the last two years. Thank god I got my money out of dollars and into Asian currencies while I had the chance – I’m living high on the hog :)

    You’re just another American who can’t accept the fact that, if you don’t figure out a way to make money that’s not in dollars, when it comes to social security when the dollar collapses you’ll be lucky to be able to buy a taco.

  • http://www.leosigh.com Leo Sigh

    It might be ‘priced in dollars’ in Central America, which was overthrown BY America decades ago, but it’s not priced in ‘dollars’ in Europe, the Middle East or anywhere in Asia. The dollar is done. In Thailand, where I live, it’s fallen 30% in the last two years. Thank god I got my money out of dollars and into Asian currencies while I had the chance – I’m living high on the hog :)

    You’re just another American who can’t accept the fact that, if you don’t figure out a way to make money that’s not in dollars, when it comes to social security when the dollar collapses you’ll be lucky to be able to buy a taco.

  • http://www.leosigh.com Leo Sigh

    It might be ‘priced in dollars’ in Central America, which was overthrown BY America decades ago, but it’s not priced in ‘dollars’ in Europe, the Middle East or anywhere in Asia. The dollar is done. In Thailand, where I live, it’s fallen 30% in the last two years. Thank god I got my money out of dollars and into Asian currencies while I had the chance – I’m living high on the hog :)

    You’re just another American who can’t accept the fact that, if you don’t figure out a way to make money that’s not in dollars, when it comes to social security when the dollar collapses you’ll be lucky to be able to buy a taco.

  • http://www.leosigh.com Leo Sigh

    It might be ‘priced in dollars’ in Central America, which was overthrown BY America decades ago, but it’s not priced in ‘dollars’ in Europe, the Middle East or anywhere in Asia. The dollar is done. In Thailand, where I live, it’s fallen 30% in the last two years. Thank god I got my money out of dollars and into Asian currencies while I had the chance – I’m living high on the hog :)

    You’re just another American who can’t accept the fact that, if you don’t figure out a way to make money that’s not in dollars, when it comes to social security when the dollar collapses you’ll be lucky to be able to buy a taco.

  • 1984

    Africa has PLENTY of faith, more so than USA, but it doesn’t make it good. So does the middle-east.

    Mr Jefferson, build up that wall! Religion is by definition non-free because it works through authority.

    If you’re worried about what makes the world shit then follow the money.

  • 1984

    Africa has PLENTY of faith, more so than USA, but it doesn’t make it good. So does the middle-east.

    Mr Jefferson, build up that wall! Religion is by definition non-free because it works through authority.

    If you’re worried about what makes the world shit then follow the money.

  • 1984

    Africa has PLENTY of faith, more so than USA, but it doesn’t make it good. So does the middle-east.

    Mr Jefferson, build up that wall! Religion is by definition non-free because it works through authority.

    If you’re worried about what makes the world shit then follow the money.

  • 1984

    Africa has PLENTY of faith, more so than USA, but it doesn’t make it good. So does the middle-east.

    Mr Jefferson, build up that wall! Religion is by definition non-free because it works through authority.

    If you’re worried about what makes the world shit then follow the money.

  • 1984

    “However, on religious issues there can be little or no compromise. There is no position on which people are so immovable as their religious beliefs. There is no more powerful ally one can claim in a debate than Jesus Christ, or God, or Allah, or whatever one calls this supreme being.But like any powerful weapon, the use of God’s name on one’s behalf should be used sparingly. The religious factions that are growing throughout our land are not using their religious clout with wisdom.They are trying to force government leaders into following their position 100 percent. If you disagree with these religious groups on a particular moral issue, they complain, they threaten you with a loss of money or votes or both. I’m frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in “A,” “B,” “C,” and “D.” Just who do they think they are? And from where do they presume to claim the right to dictate their moral beliefs to me? And I am even more angry as a legislator who must endure the threats of every religious group who thinks it has some God-granted right to control my vote on every roll call in the Senate. I am warning them today: I will fight them every step of the way if they try to dictate their moral convictions to all Americans in the name of “conservatism.” [Senator Barry Goldwater]

  • 1984

    “However, on religious issues there can be little or no compromise. There is no position on which people are so immovable as their religious beliefs. There is no more powerful ally one can claim in a debate than Jesus Christ, or God, or Allah, or whatever one calls this supreme being.But like any powerful weapon, the use of God’s name on one’s behalf should be used sparingly. The religious factions that are growing throughout our land are not using their religious clout with wisdom.They are trying to force government leaders into following their position 100 percent. If you disagree with these religious groups on a particular moral issue, they complain, they threaten you with a loss of money or votes or both. I’m frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in “A,” “B,” “C,” and “D.” Just who do they think they are? And from where do they presume to claim the right to dictate their moral beliefs to me? And I am even more angry as a legislator who must endure the threats of every religious group who thinks it has some God-granted right to control my vote on every roll call in the Senate. I am warning them today: I will fight them every step of the way if they try to dictate their moral convictions to all Americans in the name of “conservatism.” [Senator Barry Goldwater]

  • 1984

    “However, on religious issues there can be little or no compromise. There is no position on which people are so immovable as their religious beliefs. There is no more powerful ally one can claim in a debate than Jesus Christ, or God, or Allah, or whatever one calls this supreme being.But like any powerful weapon, the use of God’s name on one’s behalf should be used sparingly. The religious factions that are growing throughout our land are not using their religious clout with wisdom.They are trying to force government leaders into following their position 100 percent. If you disagree with these religious groups on a particular moral issue, they complain, they threaten you with a loss of money or votes or both. I’m frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in “A,” “B,” “C,” and “D.” Just who do they think they are? And from where do they presume to claim the right to dictate their moral beliefs to me? And I am even more angry as a legislator who must endure the threats of every religious group who thinks it has some God-granted right to control my vote on every roll call in the Senate. I am warning them today: I will fight them every step of the way if they try to dictate their moral convictions to all Americans in the name of “conservatism.” [Senator Barry Goldwater]

  • 1984

    “However, on religious issues there can be little or no compromise. There is no position on which people are so immovable as their religious beliefs. There is no more powerful ally one can claim in a debate than Jesus Christ, or God, or Allah, or whatever one calls this supreme being.But like any powerful weapon, the use of God’s name on one’s behalf should be used sparingly. The religious factions that are growing throughout our land are not using their religious clout with wisdom.They are trying to force government leaders into following their position 100 percent. If you disagree with these religious groups on a particular moral issue, they complain, they threaten you with a loss of money or votes or both. I’m frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in “A,” “B,” “C,” and “D.” Just who do they think they are? And from where do they presume to claim the right to dictate their moral beliefs to me? And I am even more angry as a legislator who must endure the threats of every religious group who thinks it has some God-granted right to control my vote on every roll call in the Senate. I am warning them today: I will fight them every step of the way if they try to dictate their moral convictions to all Americans in the name of “conservatism.” [Senator Barry Goldwater]

  • 1984

    “However, on religious issues there can be little or no compromise. There is no position on which people are so immovable as their religious beliefs. There is no more powerful ally one can claim in a debate than Jesus Christ, or God, or Allah, or whatever one calls this supreme being.But like any powerful weapon, the use of God’s name on one’s behalf should be used sparingly. The religious factions that are growing throughout our land are not using their religious clout with wisdom.They are trying to force government leaders into following their position 100 percent. If you disagree with these religious groups on a particular moral issue, they complain, they threaten you with a loss of money or votes or both. I’m frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in “A,” “B,” “C,” and “D.” Just who do they think they are? And from where do they presume to claim the right to dictate their moral beliefs to me? And I am even more angry as a legislator who must endure the threats of every religious group who thinks it has some God-granted right to control my vote on every roll call in the Senate. I am warning them today: I will fight them every step of the way if they try to dictate their moral convictions to all Americans in the name of “conservatism.” [Senator Barry Goldwater]

  • 1984

    …and not to justify it.

  • 1984

    …and not to justify it.

  • 1984

    …and not to justify it.

  • 1984

    Welfare is far cheaper than building more prisons.

  • 1984

    Welfare is far cheaper than building more prisons.

  • 1984

    Welfare is far cheaper than building more prisons.

  • 1984

    Welfare is far cheaper than building more prisons.

  • Anonymous

    Looks like the Ron Paul Crazies are all out and howling today. Must be a full moon.

  • Anonymous

    Looks like the Ron Paul Crazies are all out and howling today. Must be a full moon.

  • Anonymous

    Looks like the Ron Paul Crazies are all out and howling today. Must be a full moon.

  • Anonymous

    Looks like the Ron Paul Crazies are all out and howling today. Must be a full moon.

  • Anonymous

    Looks like the Ron Paul Crazies are all out and howling today. Must be a full moon.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TVYZPK7SL35XM2IQZW6OSAS7JM andy

    obama is the biggest loser president ever created. what a joker. convinced everyone that he was all about change. but in reality he is the ultimate puppet of the establishment.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TVYZPK7SL35XM2IQZW6OSAS7JM andy

    obama is the biggest loser president ever created. what a joker. convinced everyone that he was all about change. but in reality he is the ultimate puppet of the establishment.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TVYZPK7SL35XM2IQZW6OSAS7JM andy

    obama is the biggest loser president ever created. what a joker. convinced everyone that he was all about change. but in reality he is the ultimate puppet of the establishment.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TVYZPK7SL35XM2IQZW6OSAS7JM andy

    obama is the biggest loser president ever created. what a joker. convinced everyone that he was all about change. but in reality he is the ultimate puppet of the establishment.

  • Anonymous

    Jim Bob, you need to ask yourself why in the world would anyone choose to be gay knowing how many idiots and haters in the world would want to give them trouble?

    No one would CHOOSE to be subject to the abuse your type flings. The only people who thing it is a choice are those who have deeply held longings to be gay and just work really really hard to suppress them and thus think everyone should be just as “tough” and self hating as they are.

  • Anonymous

    Jim Bob, you need to ask yourself why in the world would anyone choose to be gay knowing how many idiots and haters in the world would want to give them trouble?

    No one would CHOOSE to be subject to the abuse your type flings. The only people who thing it is a choice are those who have deeply held longings to be gay and just work really really hard to suppress them and thus think everyone should be just as “tough” and self hating as they are.

  • Anonymous

    Jim Bob, you need to ask yourself why in the world would anyone choose to be gay knowing how many idiots and haters in the world would want to give them trouble?

    No one would CHOOSE to be subject to the abuse your type flings. The only people who thing it is a choice are those who have deeply held longings to be gay and just work really really hard to suppress them and thus think everyone should be just as “tough” and self hating as they are.

  • Anonymous

    Jim Bob, you need to ask yourself why in the world would anyone choose to be gay knowing how many idiots and haters in the world would want to give them trouble?

    No one would CHOOSE to be subject to the abuse your type flings. The only people who thing it is a choice are those who have deeply held longings to be gay and just work really really hard to suppress them and thus think everyone should be just as “tough” and self hating as they are.

  • Anonymous

    That doesn’t make sense. Maybe they meant that that is what the raised for their campaigns. For one thing I don’t think what all of them make is actually known. Or maybe that is their net worth. That could be. Many of them made a lot of money before they ran for Congress.

    I know a few of the congressmen and that doesn’t make a bit of sense. Obama for one, never made a lot of money (his wife earned more than he did) but after he gave the speech at the Democratic Convention in 2004 the book he wrote in the early 90s became a best seller and he became quite wealthy from that.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, but Julian Assange should have the sense to recognize who the real enemies are: The corporations that have tentacles reaching every corner of the world and a sucker in every home to syphon out any wealth. He should be working to encourage informers to capture information from banking executives, insurers, pharmaceutical makers, and oil corporations among others.

    Their control and venal ways must be exposed. That’s where the real secrets are; not in the gossip of diplomats and generals.

  • Anonymous

    No, we needed to fight harder. If the Republicans had been held to minor gains they would have be whipped and made to understand that NO is not a strategy. As it was the anarchist Tea Party was funded and controlled by those with the aim of causing chaos and bleeding the government of any way to help its people.

    Don’t believe the propaganda; the financial regulation bill was plenty strong and is changing a lot of their practices. Unfortunately the Constitution’s protections of property interests limits the possibilities of taking over or breaking up the banks or of ordering them to stop outrageous compensation practices. The only ways to stop the management from giving a monster share of the earnings of the productive workers of a business to the top management and star hucksters is to tax all compensation over, say, a million dollars at 50% (they would so hate the idea that so much was going to the government) or have shareholders fight the extravagance. That last is starting.

    The biggest propaganda effort of the last 35 years is that taxes are bad and government can do no good. If you are a multi-millionaire, a billionaire these days, you don’t need government. You can buy anything you want and don’t have to worry about being ripped off or have your house blow or burn down.

    For the rest of us there is government. And for the good of us it should be good government.

  • Anonymous

    Here in the South the racial divide is emerging post haste. The white politicians running against Repubicans have posters with the Democrat white and ObomberBush together meaning that voting other than REpubican means you’re a “nigger” lover. Racism is always near the surface to be resurrected on demand and the ignorant mindlessness American public buys into it every time.

  • Anonymous

    Your ignorance is astounding. Social Security is self funding by law and has no effect on the Federal deficit,the Treasury bond proceeds for the national debt, is what funds the Pentagon/spy agencies. Admiral Mullen has declared the national debt, which is how the Pentagon is funded and is a threat to national security. So the American taxpayer are funding a threat to national security, the Pentagon/spy agencies, to protect themselves from threats to national security. This is nonsense, but the only sense the USG and most of the mindlessness American public have is nonsense without which they would have no sense at all. The shallowness of your remarks are shameful but like others of your ilk, those that have no sense of healthy shame, you don’t have a clue.

  • Anonymous

    Andy, No kidding and them some. ‘Hope and Change’ was his mantra, when in essence, he was chortling and giving an invisible middle finger to desperate Americans who were crying, screaming, gnashing their teeth for ‘hope and change’. They stood outside by the millions, tears streaming down their faces, in below zero temps, on 1/20/09. The man is a fraud, phony, empty suit, weak, coward, and, worst of all…a corporatist. He used his cancer ridden mother as a prop, talking about how she was on the phone, begging for care for his ins. co. What did he do with health care? Hid in the WH for 14 months, and let the corps write the bill to their liking. 29 million people stayed home in Nov., but he’s too ‘above the fray’ to notice that. He will not get my vote, money or time, never, ever…count on it.

  • Anonymous

    Risa, Sounds like a good plan. I’m in and I make a mean chili.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    I saw your comment, and I did appreciate it. The perfect words in response did not come to me immediately but I knew they would, and I would have posted them when they did.

    In your patience you possess your soul. Most souls are divided over other people, money or lack thereof, and things.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    When Jesus saw the Sweet Business deal between the Priests, Bankers and Merchants in The Temple at Jerusalem, he freaked out and for the 1st time in his Ministry, became a violent terrorist in overturning the Banker’s money, both the secular currencies from the various parts of the world, and the Temple currency with which to buy the “Kosher” Merchant’s merchandise at twice the price it was available off Temple property.

    And said to them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but you have made it a den of thieves.
    And he taught daily in the temple. But the chief priests and the scribes and the chief of the people sought to destroy him,
    And could not find what they might do: for all the people were very attentive to hear him.
    Luke 19

    Jesus was condemned as a criminal in a middle of the night trial while the City slept, and was executed according to the Law for that action later that day before the people could react..

    In the 2000 years since then, the Bankers and Merchants, with the misguided or asleep religious leadership, up until the financial meltdown/economic Pearl Harbour-tsunami in the Fall of 2008, regained control of the Temple in getting an irreligious Society psyched up year after year to buy each other presents for His Birthday but leaving him out of it. Talk about miracles.

  • Anonymous

    He never convinced me thank God.

  • TheDevilCanDance

    I wanted to make a point,”arrogance pays…”

    I am indeed impatient, I am only 21 yr old, I t thought that patience was the wisdom of the elders, and I am not in a desperate hurry to become old :)

  • Anonymous

    Oh get outa here, Ray.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J4R2P2BMMM5JTCYWGEU4YW6UWQ Dago T

    Well, we don’t have to worry about any Republicunts listening to this guy, or Sarah tweeting this up: they don’t listen to intelligent people.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RDZGS7IJNX3DSESCXNYGM6AQHI 29-17 XLI

    Oh yeah. Some of the smartest idiots I’ve ever met. My post USA collapse plan is forming an Amish-hippie-militia. It will be SWEET!

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    Thank you for the support, IVAMU. I read the link, but nothing will happen by the snap of the fingers. There definitely has to be a re-evaluation of money and value of work in the context that humanity, from the greatest to the least, is only beginning to see for the 1st Time, we are all interconnected and interdependent in some way. .

    Then answered Jesus and said to them, Verily, verily, I say to you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he sees the Father do: for what things soever he does, these also does the Son likewise.John 5

    Christ said this speaking not only of himself abut for all others coming after him.

    He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
    But as many as received him, to them gave he POWER TO BECOME the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
    Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. John 1

  • Anonymous

    Ray, do you think Jesus upset the Temple’s business at the beginning or end of his ministry? I’m asking because the way I read your first paragraph it seems to me to imply that this incident perhaps precipitated his ministry but only John says this. I’m just asking because I’m interested.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RDZGS7IJNX3DSESCXNYGM6AQHI 29-17 XLI

    Barack Hussein Obama is putting fluoride in our drinking water! We don’t need no damn government strengthening our teeth!

  • Anonymous

    Michaelj72, do you think that the coup in Chile in 1973 is a model for what can occur in the US? I do.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RDZGS7IJNX3DSESCXNYGM6AQHI 29-17 XLI

    Once upon a time there were four men named Everybody, Somebody, Anybody, and Nobody. There was an important job to be done and Everybody was asked to do it. But Everybody was sure that Somebody would do it. Anybody could have done it. But Nobody did it. Somebody got angry about it, because it was Everybody’s job. Everybody thought that Anybody could do it, and Nobody realized that Everybody wouldn’t do it. It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody and Nobody did the job that Anybody could have done in the first place. At last report, these four men were still arguing and the job they were supposed to do still wasn’t done.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    This was at the end of his life and the action that got him crucified after his 3 year itinerant travels in Samaria and Judea. The scriptures paint a picture of him having an ongoing war with the religious leadership and system.

  • Anonymous

    How much of these sorts of prophesies, such as the 2012/Mayan end of the world type, are brought about in a self-fulfilling way?

    In other words, are there humans consciously or even subconsciously either intentionally or unwittingly bringing about the doomsday. I used to think it was funny when people said that there are many Christians, Jews and Muslims who actively relish and desire the end to come. Yet, I’m more and more convinced that there are many people, often in positions of power, who not only believe in these doomsday predictions, but in more ways than one deliberately seek out collapse, destruction and turmoil only so that their insane beliefs come true?

  • Anonymous

    Bravo, kid. Truly, indeed. Now, if only there were one politician worth his or her salt who repeated verbatim what you wrote each and every day until the message got through.

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  • Anonymous

    In the recent past, I gave some thought to that adage how wisdom comes with age, but that is, as are so many other things, false or at best it’s a half-truth.

    Wisdom does not come with age per se but rather with experience. In other words because man is fallible or in fact prone to error, wisdom is the result of trial and error. Of course experiences will multiply generally as one ages, but to say that wisdom comes with age is just not true, as there are many old people who can attest that they haven’t any wisdom. Maybe, it’s better just to say that even children can have wisdom beyond their years, yes?

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    Enjoy your youth while it lasts because it will not last long being but a fading flower.

    My picture was taken on turning 65 two years ago. As for me, if I die at 100, I’m still a child of God.

  • Anonymous

    As far as never having been an Empire, why not ask my cousin. He will tell you that in high school in America he took a course called American Imperialism. Unless of course you claim that there is a difference between an Empire and Imperialism, it sounds awfully like America was, and is, an Empire.

  • Anonymous

    I wish I could leave but for at least the past 2 decades or so the world has become very expensive for Americans and, more recently, extremely inhospitable to us.

  • Anonymous

    Why don’t you read a little bit about America’s involvement in Chile or Bolivia in the 1970s and then get back to me. Better, why not read a smidgen of any Central American or South American country’s history and I think you will find the hand of the US in every pot.

  • http://twitter.com/debdeb23 dubbie

    It didn’t happen overnight. The Fed was established by President Wilson, Eisenhower introduced the Military Industrial Complex, then the Department of Homeland Security by Bush II. Both Eisenhower and Wilson regretted their decisions almost immediately after they made them and publicly apologized. Because it happened little by little, most of us grew up with one or both already in place and we did not think to object to them until it started to become clear how evil they are. Unfortunately, it is much easier to keep them out than it is to oust them once they are in place.
    I personally think we should try for a vote of no confidence in the next major election. While many if not most of the politicians in power are corrupt to the point where we could prosecute them, I would simply prefer the whole lot of them to be out. If we vote no confidence, we could just stipulate that anyone who has held public office up until that point is no longer allowed to run in another election for the rest of their lives. Those in power would serve out their terms and would not get a retirement. The next election cycle would see fresh candidates. We would also stipulate that the Fed no longer exists, the standing army would be disbanded, campaign financing would come from public monies, and corporations are NOT citizens who have rights under the Constitution. I’m not sure how to work the Supreme Court, as they seem corrupt also, but it is an issue that needs to be addressed. We would not seek to prosecute any of the current leaders, except in cases where they tried to block or influence the vote of no confidence, in which case they would be prosecuted for treason.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe next you could read from Jack and the Beanstalk, or Alice in Wonderland??????

  • Anonymous

    Maybe next you could read from Jack and the Beanstalk, or Alice in Wonderland??????

  • Anonymous

    What if I don’t want your social safety net? Am I free to opt out? No, your social “democracy” will cram it up my ass. Your all Borg.

  • http://twitter.com/savagelight ThatBostonMan

    Learn about the history of the civil war. There were spies on both sides.

  • Anonymous

    I’m glad I don’t live in the United States. Cascadia has some real problems but nothing compared to what’s going to hit the US.

  • Anonymous

    I’m glad I don’t live in the United States. Cascadia has some real problems but nothing compared to what’s going to hit the US.

  • TheDevilCanDance

    Well,I can only wish you a long and healthy life,

    I am not a person of faith but unlike many of my fellow atheists, I have no problem with religious individuals as long as they live according to the principles they preach,and you seem to be such individual. I have read many of your posts and contrary to many of your Brethrens in faith, you are not intolerant, short sighted & judgmental.

    In lay man’s terms. you are OK in my book……

  • TheDevilCanDance

    Well,I can only wish you a long and healthy life,

    I am not a person of faith but unlike many of my fellow atheists, I have no problem with religious individuals as long as they live according to the principles they preach,and you seem to be such individual. I have read many of your posts and contrary to many of your Brethrens in faith, you are not intolerant, short sighted & judgmental.

    In lay man’s terms. you are OK in my book……

  • Anonymous

    I note with interest that the only religion that prohibits usury is the one we are at war with in the middle east. The Christian churches have prohibitions against it but are strangely silent on our current economic model of debt slavery as well as the ongoing war for profit.

  • Anonymous

    I note with interest that the only religion that prohibits usury is the one we are at war with in the middle east. The Christian churches have prohibitions against it but are strangely silent on our current economic model of debt slavery as well as the ongoing war for profit.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    I’ll leave that up to you.

    But mentioning Alice in Wonderland, maybe you did not see the news reports of Prince Charles and Camilla stuck in their Rolls Royce in the middle of the student demonstration in London as some in the crowd shouted, “Off with their heads.”

    If that’s not Alice in Wonderland come alive in our time, what is?

    The British government has done some real cutting to their bloated budget, something America is putting off for now, postponing the Day of Reckoning until it cannot be put off any longer. Then it will be much harder to deal with for the American People so get ready NOW.

  • TheDevilCanDance

    I never implied that experience and wisdom come as the result of an aging process. A humans we are brought to life as “intelligent primate” and most of us will merely develop into full grown gorilla…..I was just referring to the “common knowledge” that pretends that wisdom comes through age.

  • Anonymous

    I guess I need to be more specific:
    I know there were empires 100 years ago, e.g. Russia, Great Britain
    And I know there were empires that lasted more than 100 years.
    Do you know of any empire that existed 1 hundred years ago AND still exists TODAY?

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    I’m assuming you are not the original doubting Thomas. lol! I made this comment in CanaDa’s The National Post earlier this week.

    Ray Joseph Cormier

    10:15 AM on December 14, 2010

    Even though I have no credit cards, I don’t understand why those who do don’t shout and scream when the Banks borrow money from the Bank of Canada for less than 1% and turn around and charge the poorest members of society who can least afford it usurious interest rates.

    Government, who seems solely focused on policies that ensure profits for Business and the Rich, should re-examine the whole interrelated spectrum of Canadian Society and Values.

    Government acknowledges it cannot continue deficit spending forever. The Taxpayer is financing all this because Business, who has the cash, is holding on to it for fears of an uncertain Future. All people are feeling and facing that!

    Government opted for deficit spending to be only a bridge until a consumer led recovery took root.

    With rising costs of food, gasoline, textiles and every other household and outside expense needed to survive just from pay to pay for the broad mass of workers, they are not in a position to start a consumer led economic recovery.

    This is the current path the economy is on and the end of it is in sight. The financial meltdown/economic Pearl Harbour-tsunami in the Fall of 2008 was a warning sign not to be missed, but it’s still Business as Usual.

    I have yet to hear of a Plan B from Government, the Opposition or the Economists.

  • grindermonkey

    Intriguing bushmaster commentary… The fundamental good faith that I refer to is the American people’s promise to each other to pay and its extension to our allies; no other currency is so credibly backed. This is different from the Federal Reserve Note which carries no such indemnification only government backed debt, a hug coupon from a boa constrictor.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    Does this mean we can dance together? lol! I appreciate the sentiment.

    You might enjoy reading this iReport on CNN.

    http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-318624

  • Anonymous

    We pay no attention to this kind of articles, and we know HORROR STORIES by many many pessimists, who say, “End of the world, climate calamities, etc.,etc.” all hoax.

  • Anonymous

    You are free to not apply to receive the benefits.

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  • Anonymous

    No kidding? Am I also free not to contribute?

  • http://twitter.com/akhat21 Akshat Mehta

    I agree with the article, but I don’t think that the assessment of decline is anywhere near possible. I say this because one needs to look at America like one sees AIG… Its too big to fail and therefore, the western countries will support a crumbling American Democracy. We have history to prove this point. In the 90s when the Soviet Union collapsed, most one time arch rivals of the USSR, including USA, pumped billions of dollars into the economy to prop it back up.

    I think, if the USA crumbles, it will have its wings clipped for a decade or two during which it would recuperate and move forward. But to say that there will be a mother of all crisis and a collapse, would be inaccurate.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    On the subject of American Imperial Power, the female singer of this current protest song has an angelic voice to my hearing. The instrumentals are flawless and along with the lyrics, make for an evocative lament. I recommend it and urge anyone sharing my impressions to forward it to your friends.

    http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-508976

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    On the subject of American Imperial Power, the female singer of this current protest song has an angelic voice to my hearing. The instrumentals are flawless and along with the lyrics, make for an evocative lament. I recommend it and urge anyone sharing my impressions to forward it to your friends.

    http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-508976

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    On the subject of American Imperial Power, the female singer of this current protest song has an angelic voice to my hearing. The instrumentals are flawless and along with the lyrics, make for an evocative lament. I recommend it and urge anyone sharing my impressions to forward it to your friends.

    http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-508976

  • Anonymous

    Tell it Buzzcoastin – I hate Amerikkkans who think they know the low down. The day this vile country disintegrates I will be celebrating. Since World War II, America has brought nothing but trouble to the planet. They have taken down at least 50 democratically elected goverments around the world – and are continually engaged in wars which murder millions. Americans don’t give a shit either – they don’t care that they are murdering millions of people and spending most of their taxes on a military that is completely out of control. As much as I do not like alot of the things which go on in China – I would take them any day as the pre-eminent global power, as they have zero military bases OUTSIDE of china and are not waging wars on anyone.

  • Anonymous

    Tell it Buzzcoastin – I hate Amerikkkans who think they know the low down. The day this vile country disintegrates I will be celebrating. Since World War II, America has brought nothing but trouble to the planet. They have taken down at least 50 democratically elected goverments around the world – and are continually engaged in wars which murder millions. Americans don’t give a shit either – they don’t care that they are murdering millions of people and spending most of their taxes on a military that is completely out of control. As much as I do not like alot of the things which go on in China – I would take them any day as the pre-eminent global power, as they have zero military bases OUTSIDE of china and are not waging wars on anyone.

  • Anonymous

    Tell it Buzzcoastin – I hate Amerikkkans who think they know the low down. The day this vile country disintegrates I will be celebrating. Since World War II, America has brought nothing but trouble to the planet. They have taken down at least 50 democratically elected goverments around the world – and are continually engaged in wars which murder millions. Americans don’t give a shit either – they don’t care that they are murdering millions of people and spending most of their taxes on a military that is completely out of control. As much as I do not like alot of the things which go on in China – I would take them any day as the pre-eminent global power, as they have zero military bases OUTSIDE of china and are not waging wars on anyone.

  • Anonymous

    Well, let’s put it this way… I know this is slightly off topic, but only slightly. It would be nice if we could tell people who don’t want to pay for medical insurance that we will make sure that medical facilities can demand cash-up-front payments or refuse service, but that is not how it works in America.

    If you did not contribute and ended up destitute, America would still allow you to go on Medicare.

    So, NO, you are not free to not contribute, because we cannot trust you to not beg for mercy and help – AND get it – when you realized you screwed yourself in the process.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6U2IXQE4LER6DIVWLZ3R2X6WFM Mark R

    there has been fluoride in the drinking water for decades! Why some people make up things to prove a point astounds me, because in this age their lies can be uncovered in an instant and then the look like a fool! 29-17 XLI – that fool is you!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6U2IXQE4LER6DIVWLZ3R2X6WFM Mark R

    I, for one, would be glad for the ‘empire’ to collapse. Then we could get on with the business of taking care of our own people. And… letting other country’s fend for themselves, move the UN out of New York City (maybe to Kabul), pull our troops out of Europe and let the European Union fend for themselves against a nuclear Iran, Iraq, Syria, etc…) I would like to see a fence put up along the Mexican border to keep our empire from spreading south into the paradise that is Mexico.

    Where did you get that statistic from? Oh yeah, you MADE IT UP! Don’t forget who buys all those good the foreign companies make. Unfortunately, it’s the US…so they are dependent on us too. I wonder if you would have made this post in the middle of the Bush presidency (in the middle of his nation building war). Somehow, I doubt it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6U2IXQE4LER6DIVWLZ3R2X6WFM Mark R

    infowars is just a fear mongering website set up to make Alex Jones a rich man. And you fools eat it up. The first article I pulled up today was full of lies. About the TSA pedophiles…young children don’t get pat downs, men don’t pat down the women. At the end of the article it discussed replacing TSA with a private company. Yeah, I want a company like Blackwater at the airport… INFOWARS is a joke. Anyone who does even a little critical thinking will see right through these stories. These stories are more like fairy tales!

  • Anonymous

    Spoken like a true Statist. “We” cannot trust you.

    The need for safety nets in society is real but why must your SS and Healthcare nets be cast over every single American needy or not? Tyranny’s camel nose has oft been disguised as compassionate (see Karl Marx).

    My charitable giving will always be more effective than your Govt’s redistribution.

    My right to freedom will always trump your desire for State forced compassion.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6U2IXQE4LER6DIVWLZ3R2X6WFM Mark R

    I just read the list….It’s a joke. A financial collapse because of one month or three month statistics? A financial collapse because of a Jerry Brown quote? A financial collapse because of the unemployment rate in El Centro, CA or the home value in Merced, CA? Come on people…

  • Anonymous

    Ponzi scheme? Really??
    Yeah, that’s why SS has NOT missed a payment since it was created in 1935.

    The “problem” with SS and Medicare is that the scum politicians, ESPECIALLY the rescumlicans drain them to pay for their wars and welfare for the rich.

    If you want to live in your utopian “Lord of the Flies” society, move to Somalia.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6U2IXQE4LER6DIVWLZ3R2X6WFM Mark R

    And what kind of jobs are those? Child sex tour operators? I’ve been to Thailand… no thank you!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6U2IXQE4LER6DIVWLZ3R2X6WFM Mark R

    For them to be a global power, they would necessarily have to have bases outside their own country. When a leader gets reelected with 98 or 99 percent of the vote, I hardly call that democratic. I call it a sham. Which war are we in that is murdering ‘millions’ (your figure)?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6U2IXQE4LER6DIVWLZ3R2X6WFM Mark R

    I prefer indoor plumbing, roads to travel on. How long has your ‘King’ been in power? 60 years? Longer…there’s no one better to lead the country. Bow down to your King and stay where you are! moron

  • http://www.facebook.com/joop.v.deswaluw Joop Van de Swaluw

    The indecent behaviour of the TSA goons towards the general public was the “patting down” of peolpe who wanted to travel by air- it was disgusting and had nothing to do with America’s security.
    Intimidating and insulting people has all to do with showing who’s the boss. I wonder if cattle travelling by road or on trains are patted down! My dogs are trained as suicide bombers!!
    Who’s afraid of who? People with a clean conscience have nothing to fear.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joop.v.deswaluw Joop Van de Swaluw

    The indecent behaviour of the TSA goons towards the general public was the “patting down” of peolpe who wanted to travel by air- it was disgusting and had nothing to do with America’s security.
    Intimidating and insulting people has all to do with showing who’s the boss. I wonder if cattle travelling by road or on trains are patted down! My dogs are trained as suicide bombers!!
    Who’s afraid of who? People with a clean conscience have nothing to fear.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Richard-Fessenden/100000398212594 Richard Fessenden

    And so the “Long Emergency” begins. Kudos to James Howard Kunstler. (Hi Jimmy)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Richard-Fessenden/100000398212594 Richard Fessenden

    And so the “Long Emergency” begins. Kudos to James Howard Kunstler. (Hi Jimmy)

  • Anonymous

    Well, I have never met a Conservative I could trust. They are always either (literally) closeted homosexuals, hateful of others who are different than themselves, or ultra-religious and think that “God” is always on their side.

    Given that, I have met many a self-avowed Conservative who admitted abusing unemployment benefits (“I was making so much money on unemployment, I saw no reason to look for a job”), or union benefits (“yup, I milked it for all it was worth, why not? I’m sure everyone else was too”) or walking away from their mortgage while others tried to keep their obligations (“they made a bet on me and I made a bet on them, they lost”).

    Those are honest truth quotes from self-identified and proud Conservatives.

    So, no, I don’t trust you.

    And the safety net is there for everyone because no-one knows when they will need it. Best laid plans of mice and men and all that. I personally know of people who had done all the planning, thought that they had thought of everything, and still ended up needing government help.

    Ah yes, “government redistribution”. A typical Conservative saying which means nothing at all. And no, your charitable giving is not guaranteed to be more effective. Some will, most may not.

    And no, your right to freedom was taken away by the Bush admin, and made worse by the Obama admin. Hell, who was it that made marijuana illegal?

  • Anonymous

    I am assuming you are talking about Obama’s plan so let’s start there. First the individual mandate is unconstitutional and please don’t try to equate it to automobile insurance, its not at all like auto insurance.

    All areas of health care from pharmaceuticals, doctors, nurses, hospitals to health insurance are one of the most highly regulated industries on the planet. To a large degree the cost of health care in this country is caused by regulation.

    For example the pharmaceutical industry must engage in loads of meaningless testing with a small amount of meaningful testing in order to bring a product to market. When I was working in that industry it took several hundred million to take a product from discovery to market and it usually took 10 years to do it, that was 20 years ago its most likely worse now. This left the company 7 years to recoup its R&D expenses not just for this drug but for all the drugs that never made it. Remember the drugs that never return a dime must be paid for also.

    For example my doctor practices in Illinois not 40 miles from Indiana. As a general practitioner he carries as much in malpractice insurance as an obstetrician does in Indiana. Now it’s generally accepted that an obstetrician has many fold more exposure to litigation than a general practitioner does but because of the difference between one state and another in malpractice awards costs are much higher in Illinois than in Indiana.

    I don’t have enough space here to go into detail about all the ways we screw ourselves through regulations and malpractice, let’s just say that all these things add to the high cost of health care and negatively affect the supply of doctors and hospitals thereby raising the cost even further. So to answer the first part of your statement “If insurance works perfectly fine for part of the population when it is organized by a private organization”, no I don’t think all is well in the Garden of Eden. But as you might see from the previous discussion nothing about healthcare is organized solely by a private organization, there is heavy government involvement at all levels and for me that’s the problem not the solution. If the government is primarily responsible for the high cost of health care, as I believe they are, why would I want to increase their involvement?

    Let’s talk about the second part of your statement “why does it suddenly fail when organized for all of the population by the government?”. My position here is because government is notoriously incompetent at providing services of any kind let alone anything as complex as healthcare or insurance of any sort. As a case study let’s look at Social Security. It would seem that this would be the simplest of programs and in it’s inception it was. Now it’s a complex labyrinth of programs which is nearing insolvency as we speak. They will soon start sending more money out than they take in. They will begin redeeming those nonnegotiable bonds, nothing but Gov’t IOU’s, that make up the “trust fund”. Funny term in as much as you can’t trust them and it’s not funded. In short I recognized this was a ponzi scheme decades ago and like any ponzi scheme it would collapse and it is and it will. If you went out and put together a scheme like social security and started signing people up for Joeri’s Social Security they would lock you up for one hundred years, you would never see the light of day again and the charge would be “running a ponzi scheme”. In short the government couldn’t organize a ham sandwich or as it turns out Social Security why would I want these twits in charge of my healthcare, do you think I have a death wish?

    You may think I am being flippant when I say the government couldn’t produce a ham sandwich but I mean that literally, they can’t, at least not anywhere as efficiently and for the same cost the private sector can. So when they master the ham sandwich I will be more than happy to talk to them about getting into the healthcare arena.

  • http://twitter.com/jaytingle jaytingle

    Hedges was making the same argument while Bush was president, “in the middle of his nation building war,” whatever the hell that refers to.

  • Pelu Maad

    I’m 62….DITTO!

  • http://www.grandinite.com/2010/12/these-guys-get-it/ These guys get it.

    [...] Exclusive: US empire could collapse at any time, Pulitzer winner tells Raw Story “American workers, as they are repeatedly told, will have to become competitive with prison labor in China,” he said. “That’s where we’re headed, and all the pillars of the liberal establishment are complicit in this.” [...]

  • Pelu Maad

    LOL……so everything is fine?

  • Anonymous

    I began loosing my freedoms long before G W Bush (I assume thats the Bush to whom you refer, the “Evil Bush”) became president. I fail to see how handing more money and more control of ours lives to a Federal Govt via the social societal safety nets you promote makes us more free?

    You’re case still remains Statist.

    In your last sentence we find common ground. Am I still a “Conservative”?

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  • ladygeek

    The IMF is probably closer to being a dictator to the small governments that they force upon them. If you look at what happened to South American governments, the IMF forces them to the point of bankrupting the whole country unless they accept the IMF’s policies. That is the same thing that we are seeing here in our country. We are poised on the brink of bankruptcy but the IMF is a function of the US government in many respects and they don’t need to do to the US what they consistently do to small and poorer countries.

    And, I don’t think there’s much left of the gold in Fort Knox either but no one ever questions the government on it.

  • ladygeek

    Labor laws quit being enforced under Reagan. If you remember, he fired all the striking Air Traffic controllers thereby killing the union. That gave business open range to getting rid of those “anti-capitalist” unions! Once the unions go, the rest of us get limited benefits as a result. The primary focus of unions in the US is purely economic unlike in Europe where they also have political power. In the US, unions have a very limited level of political clout. The foundation of labor unions goes to the centuries old trade unionism that existed even during feudalism way back there. This is a good reason as to why unions should exist.

    Unions are the scapegoats of capitalism – the dragging down of unions kills the living wage so that’s why people are willing to take jobs that don’t even come close to the cost of living. That’s neo-feudalism and it needs to be stopped.

  • http://twitter.com/btmfdrsheaven rebecca meritt

    And what have you done to correct the problem,take tithes from the poor and say G-d wants me to have this and blame the bad government for everything? Are you one who takes nothing but a tithe of righteousness from the flock,on who teaches that Mary was a little girl and the Holy Spirit of G-d was a pedophile when KJV Luke1-36 says she was old as Elisabeth. What have you done to stop the preachers among you from filling the world with pedophiles that justify what they do to children from what you allow and don’t speak out? So tell me just what have you done lately?

  • http://twitter.com/btmfdrsheaven rebecca meritt

    Let the EMPIRE collapse it’s the only thing that will stop us.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    It seems my comment lately has obviously brought you out of the woodwork in a snit trying to obfuscate the issue.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    It seems my comment lately has obviously brought you out of the woodwork in a snit trying to obfuscate the issue.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JRBJ4PCICLE2LKWF2USZSQWGG4 Jim

    There is no reason why we couldn’t quickly descend into a chaotic dark age like Jenga sticks falling of their own weight.

  • Anonymous

    I believe the way the US government is handling the Wikileaks issue is far more dangerous that any shooting war.
    It appears to the rest of the world that the bankers are in control of everything; and are quite prepaired to sacrifice the constitution to make sure they keep it!
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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JRBJ4PCICLE2LKWF2USZSQWGG4 Jim

    Get a grip!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JRBJ4PCICLE2LKWF2USZSQWGG4 Jim

    The Christianity of today is a self-serving joke.

  • Anonymous

    So what you are then suggesting is words like “government” people are confused about. What the government promised us doesn’t matter because that was a promise we made to each other and the government was simply the structure we chose to use to implement it.

    Therefore we are letting ourselves down?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JRBJ4PCICLE2LKWF2USZSQWGG4 Jim

    “Hope and Change” was merely an advertising sales technique for the credulous and those many millions sick to death of George Bush. 2012 election will be very interesting…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JRBJ4PCICLE2LKWF2USZSQWGG4 Jim

    Ready to believe the worst, after some time at Infowars, I find I agree with Mark’s assessment.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JRBJ4PCICLE2LKWF2USZSQWGG4 Jim

    Gosh and I’d like to move out of this crashing monstrosity of a country and move to Canada.
    My cousin in Victoria told me yesterday that the worst problem in Canada is Americans buying houses and leaving the sinking ship.
    We are bankrupt, screwed and constantly bombarded with propaganda and lies; I’m sick of the crap.

  • Anonymous

    My Dad was a Baptist Preacher, a Conservative and a Fundamentalist.
    Although he was able to recognize the significance of the times we are living in,
    he just did not accept that we were able to see prophetic fulfillment taking place.
    He was killed by a speeding tractor trailer in 2001.
    I am saying this because as he said, it (the return of Christ), could be at anytime, but
    it could also be 1,000 years from now.

    The IVAMU is well able to completely decentralize banking. It turns everyone and everybody into their own, individual “central bank.”
    It makes the Idea and the practice of central banking obsolete.
    It sets back ALL the recent gains of the New World Odor adherents by 500 years or more.

    The Idea of the IVMU Invention must be attributed to the influence of being source from God.
    It was revealed to me by inspiration, the kind and type that one must associate with
    being from the mind of God.

    I nearly decided NOT to put it forth. However, it was as if there was a loudspeaker going off inside me, ordering me, demanding of me to “do it — right now!”

    I have had this Idea locked down inside of me, for several years, but told no one what it was. I would tell folks, “I cannot write it down, nor write it, as it could fall into malicious hands. If I die before it gets registered, it goes out with me, however, I can say it is a new kind of money, but that is all that can be said about it. I can describe what it will do, but not what it is.”
    Then, after what seemed a long period of time, the money came in needed to put it forth.
    The more I attempted to ignore this “voice” the louder it became.
    So, let’s now see what the results will be.

    It fits into the category of, “No army can stop an Idea whose time has come.”

    The only obstacle is the lack of public knowledge. Most folks have not YET heard of it, and many of them still believe the future is nothing but world-wide Slavery for all subsequent generations, even to include those not yet conceived and or born, to the Banksters Usury/Interest Payments …. “forever.”

    This is Literally the Announcement of their intentions towards us, it is a World-Wide,
    re-institution of SLAVERY!

    How else could any cabal seeking or attempting to enslave their fellow mankind?
    This IS it.
    They are using the Idea of Usury/Interest, to “legitimize” our enslavement, so lets just call it what it really is, they are knowingly seeking to make everybody BUT them, a SLAVE to them.
    Literal SLAVERY..
    However, as you indicated, there are many folks waking up. Newly Awakened, and aroused to ANGER.
    The kind of anger that will NOT subside, but increase, until well AFTER these Tyrants are REMOVED from ALL Influences and powers.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JRBJ4PCICLE2LKWF2USZSQWGG4 Jim

    Way too true.

  • Anonymous

    I fail to see how we are handing more money and control to the federal government. Actually, it has been less, recently.

    The “freedom” is the freedom from worrying about “what happens to me and my loved ones if ‘the worst’ happens”.

    One could chide people for not saving enough and planning their money well enough. There is argument for that. But plenty of people DID save enough until the stock market and housing crisis took it all away. One only has so much control over societal events.

    I am glad to have found common ground. Probably not enough, though, as I feel that all drugs should be legal…. then taxed and regulated…

  • Anonymous

    The feminized US is in trouble. But until the SHTF most feminized US citizens will continue to live in la-de-da land….

  • Anonymous

    You are absolutely RIGHT!

    There is way too much silence on a wide range of important, nation-destroying Issues from the pulpits..

    Maybe it is because so many of them are now creatures of the IRS.

    The IRS must separate from its “certification” of who and or what constitutes a “bonafied religion,” which directly Violates the First Amendment prohibition of the Federal government (of anything), from the Establishment of Religion.

    There is NO way the IRS can be doing any of this without VIOLATING the First Amendment. HOWEVER, since what the IRS does or does not do, and gets funded from
    the Budget, it is the Congress that created this IRS, and it is they who also enact its funding, and make yearly changes.

    The most effective means to fight the abuses of the IRS, all of them enacted by your Federal represneatives, is to tell THEM, your Federal reps, how you feel about it. We all (inside the USA), have two 6 year term Senators and one 2 year term member of the US House of Repesenatives. Your local Library Reference Desk can direct you to who they are, and how to make contact.

    About Preachers, SEE: Jeremiah chapter 23. (KJV), the other versions hide and throw out the use of the word “Preacher,” from this passage.

  • grindermonkey

    “Government” is the structure we have chosen to try and UNDERSTAND our greater problems and address them as a nation. I don’t think that it is letting us down, it is just cumbersome and awkward at times in its effort to be inclusive.

  • Anonymous

    I think we understand our greater problems. They haven’t changed. Calling High finance anything other than the same shit we have always done, just with bigger numbers is a bit…well language, kind of fails.

    We’ve gotten pretty good at figuring out who’s the crook. Rather I submit we like them there, they are good for profit.

    Of course these are fine points we can argue till the sun goes down and get nowhere. More important is this is a democracy, so when it fails it’s because we sat back and let it.

    We have face some pretty big criminals in this country (No not every man in jail was just smoking pot).

    Used to be a blind lady called American Justice. Never was totally blind, and the law was always written for the man. But in America at least we started with this knowledge even if we forgot it fast.

    Same shit different pile. One grain of sand is all it takes to ruin any salad. Don’t matter what type.

    People especially in this country get hung up on a letter or word and can’t manage to step back and just say the machine is broken. They are so convinced they need to label the machine and mark all the parts. They will let it run over schools of children before they decide what to do.

    All you need to do to stop a machine is unplug it. Or empty the gas tank.

    Even the greatest idea can be implemented poorly.

  • Anonymous

    I think we understand our greater problems. They haven’t changed. Calling High finance anything other than the same shit we have always done, just with bigger numbers is a bit…well language, kind of fails.

    We’ve gotten pretty good at figuring out who’s the crook. Rather I submit we like them there, they are good for profit.

    Of course these are fine points we can argue till the sun goes down and get nowhere. More important is this is a democracy, so when it fails it’s because we sat back and let it.

    We have face some pretty big criminals in this country (No not every man in jail was just smoking pot).

    Used to be a blind lady called American Justice. Never was totally blind, and the law was always written for the man. But in America at least we started with this knowledge even if we forgot it fast.

    Same shit different pile. One grain of sand is all it takes to ruin any salad. Don’t matter what type.

    People especially in this country get hung up on a letter or word and can’t manage to step back and just say the machine is broken. They are so convinced they need to label the machine and mark all the parts. They will let it run over schools of children before they decide what to do.

    All you need to do to stop a machine is unplug it. Or empty the gas tank.

    Even the greatest idea can be implemented poorly.

  • Anonymous

    Fuck that I don’t want any Amish near my naked hippie Armada.

  • Anonymous

    Fuck that I don’t want any Amish near my naked hippie Armada.

  • Anonymous

    Ah. I told you people I love Christians. I mean a real christian who knows the Gospel. Hello sir. Please excuse my future bastardization of this language to crack skulls.

    Terrorist = freedom fighter you don’t agree with

    You have NOTHING, so you pick up a rock, toss over a table.

    Most of the people around calling him a crazy man with a beard. Called a liar, held up
    against the “truth” kings and priests rammed down their throats. They cheered his death.

    It never mattered, this right and wrong, only what the majority believed. It’s pathetic after all this time the majority are still so full of shit. And so wrong.

    Please forgive any insult taken from my words it’s not intended. But this is war, at least for the last decade (people don’t know they are at war till they get the bill).

    A man of the Gospel stood against the Armies of the BOOK.

  • Anonymous

    Ah. I told you people I love Christians. I mean a real christian who knows the Gospel. Hello sir. Please excuse my future bastardization of this language to crack skulls.

    Terrorist = freedom fighter you don’t agree with

    You have NOTHING, so you pick up a rock, toss over a table.

    Most of the people around calling him a crazy man with a beard. Called a liar, held up
    against the “truth” kings and priests rammed down their throats. They cheered his death.

    It never mattered, this right and wrong, only what the majority believed. It’s pathetic after all this time the majority are still so full of shit. And so wrong.

    Please forgive any insult taken from my words it’s not intended. But this is war, at least for the last decade (people don’t know they are at war till they get the bill).

    A man of the Gospel stood against the Armies of the BOOK.

  • Anonymous

    Yes. People don’t care about the words Sir. Just the labels.

  • Anonymous

    Yes. People don’t care about the words Sir. Just the labels.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t confuse a Church lined with gold and a Christian. They would be the last people to walk into one.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t confuse a Church lined with gold and a Christian. They would be the last people to walk into one.

  • Anonymous

    Those aren’t Christians.

  • Anonymous

    Those aren’t Christians.

  • Anonymous

    Not Christians.

  • Anonymous

    Not Christians.

  • Anonymous

    Nice to meet you Sir.

  • Anonymous

    Nice to meet you Sir.

  • Anonymous

    Not everything at infowars should be taken at face value but neither should anything at any website or news station. However they do post many of the stories that you seen here or at other websites and very often several days beforehand. There are so few uncensored news sites. Don’t buy the membership – it isnt worth it at all but give it a visit every few days and read up. The more information you have the better.

  • Anonymous

    Not everything at infowars should be taken at face value but neither should anything at any website or news station. However they do post many of the stories that you seen here or at other websites and very often several days beforehand. There are so few uncensored news sites. Don’t buy the membership – it isnt worth it at all but give it a visit every few days and read up. The more information you have the better.

  • Anonymous

    Not to mention some 30 odd years of actually getting off his ass, and seeing the world.

    Perhaps even the Hymalias.

  • Anonymous

    Not to mention some 30 odd years of actually getting off his ass, and seeing the world.

    Perhaps even the Hymalias.

  • Anonymous

    Not to mention some 30 odd years of actually getting off his ass, and seeing the world.

    Perhaps even the Hymalias.

  • Anonymous

    Not to mention some 30 odd years of actually getting off his ass, and seeing the world.

    Perhaps even the Hymalias.

  • Anonymous

    They think they know what a Christian is because everyone with a cross and a bowl for you to put money in calls themselves that. Because they are indoctrinated to believe that right means they read a book the same way as the men holding the degree. Confused by their own language, the steadily bitch at me.

  • Anonymous

    They think they know what a Christian is because everyone with a cross and a bowl for you to put money in calls themselves that. Because they are indoctrinated to believe that right means they read a book the same way as the men holding the degree. Confused by their own language, the steadily bitch at me.

  • Anonymous

    They think they know what a Christian is because everyone with a cross and a bowl for you to put money in calls themselves that. Because they are indoctrinated to believe that right means they read a book the same way as the men holding the degree. Confused by their own language, the steadily bitch at me.

  • Anonymous

    They think they know what a Christian is because everyone with a cross and a bowl for you to put money in calls themselves that. Because they are indoctrinated to believe that right means they read a book the same way as the men holding the degree. Confused by their own language, the steadily bitch at me.

  • Anonymous

    NO he’s the only Christian here, the rest are liars.

  • Anonymous

    NO he’s the only Christian here, the rest are liars.

  • Anonymous

    NO he’s the only Christian here, the rest are liars.

  • Anonymous

    confused by the words?

  • Anonymous

    confused by the words?

  • Anonymous

    confused by the words?

  • Anonymous

    confused by the words?

  • Anonymous

    Yes, when you win and profit you love it. When it crushes your home you hate it. hehe monkeys hehe.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, when you win and profit you love it. When it crushes your home you hate it. hehe monkeys hehe.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, when you win and profit you love it. When it crushes your home you hate it. hehe monkeys hehe.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, when you win and profit you love it. When it crushes your home you hate it. hehe monkeys hehe.

  • Anonymous

    2015 august. Buy a basement.

  • Anonymous

    2015 august. Buy a basement.

  • Anonymous

    2015 august. Buy a basement.

  • Anonymous

    2015 august. Buy a basement.

  • Anonymous

    You will lose because you all think this is about money.

  • Anonymous

    You will lose because you all think this is about money.

  • Anonymous

    You will lose because you all think this is about money.

  • Anonymous

    You will lose because you all think this is about money.

  • Anonymous

    Soldiers need eatin. Every army needs a cook.

  • Anonymous

    Soldiers need eatin. Every army needs a cook.

  • Anonymous

    Soldiers need eatin. Every army needs a cook.

  • Anonymous

    Soldiers need eatin. Every army needs a cook.

  • Anonymous

    Yes it’s your fault YOU blew it. sitting on a couch C!r!ying and bitching. Saying the GuYs who told you were”’Fibing. Confused by the little ‘ymbols on the page.

  • Anonymous

    Yes it’s your fault YOU blew it. sitting on a couch C!r!ying and bitching. Saying the GuYs who told you were”’Fibing. Confused by the little ‘ymbols on the page.

  • Anonymous

    Yes it’s your fault YOU blew it. sitting on a couch C!r!ying and bitching. Saying the GuYs who told you were”’Fibing. Confused by the little ‘ymbols on the page.

  • Anonymous

    Yes it’s your fault YOU blew it. sitting on a couch C!r!ying and bitching. Saying the GuYs who told you were”’Fibing. Confused by the little ‘ymbols on the page.

  • Anonymous

    Armies of the courageous await the slightest sign of humanity. Show it and they will rise up with you.

  • Anonymous

    Armies of the courageous await the slightest sign of humanity. Show it and they will rise up with you.

  • Anonymous

    Armies of the courageous await the slightest sign of humanity. Show it and they will rise up with you.

  • Anonymous

    Armies of the courageous await the slightest sign of humanity. Show it and they will rise up with you.

  • Anonymous

    Funny, I blamed you for all this.

  • Anonymous

    Funny, I blamed you for all this.

  • Anonymous

    Funny, I blamed you for all this.

  • Anonymous

    The trinity. You’re saying the trinity is bullshit. Because it’s the same thing.

  • Anonymous

    The trinity. You’re saying the trinity is bullshit. Because it’s the same thing.

  • Anonymous

    The trinity. You’re saying the trinity is bullshit. Because it’s the same thing.

  • Anonymous

    Slow rot, yes.

  • Anonymous

    Slow rot, yes.

  • Anonymous

    Slow rot, yes.

  • Anonymous

    We sat on a couch drinking beer and bitching the beer kept tasting more like piss. But we kept drinking it.

  • Anonymous

    We sat on a couch drinking beer and bitching the beer kept tasting more like piss. But we kept drinking it.

  • Anonymous

    We sat on a couch drinking beer and bitching the beer kept tasting more like piss. But we kept drinking it.

  • Anonymous

    We sat on a couch drinking beer and bitching the beer kept tasting more like piss. But we kept drinking it.

  • Anonymous

    LIAR

  • Anonymous

    LIAR

  • Anonymous

    LIAR

  • Anonymous

    LIAR

  • Anonymous

    LIAR

  • Anonymous

    LIAR

  • Anonymous

    LIAR

  • Anonymous

    Because people who expose the real numbers get shot.

  • Anonymous

    Because people who expose the real numbers get shot.

  • Anonymous

    Because people who expose the real numbers get shot.

  • Anonymous

    Because people who expose the real numbers get shot.

  • Anonymous

    Mr Daddy was a professor. You need to understand how these people make their money. They aren’t out to fuck with you, it’s the system.

    You form a Hypothesis, then right wrong or made up, you convince people it’s viable and then trickles of money flow in to get research done. Most of the time you need to lie and use that money for real research because good stuff doesn’t get funded, only profitable stuff, right or wrong.

    Just because a guy has a title and a research grant and a control group doesn’t mean anything. NOTHING.

  • Anonymous

    Mr Daddy was a professor. You need to understand how these people make their money. They aren’t out to fuck with you, it’s the system.

    You form a Hypothesis, then right wrong or made up, you convince people it’s viable and then trickles of money flow in to get research done. Most of the time you need to lie and use that money for real research because good stuff doesn’t get funded, only profitable stuff, right or wrong.

    Just because a guy has a title and a research grant and a control group doesn’t mean anything. NOTHING.

  • Anonymous

    Mr Daddy was a professor. You need to understand how these people make their money. They aren’t out to fuck with you, it’s the system.

    You form a Hypothesis, then right wrong or made up, you convince people it’s viable and then trickles of money flow in to get research done. Most of the time you need to lie and use that money for real research because good stuff doesn’t get funded, only profitable stuff, right or wrong.

    Just because a guy has a title and a research grant and a control group doesn’t mean anything. NOTHING.

  • Anonymous

    That’s a rather optimistic way of looking at it, but yes.

  • Anonymous

    That’s a rather optimistic way of looking at it, but yes.

  • Anonymous

    That’s a rather optimistic way of looking at it, but yes.

  • Anonymous

    That’s a rather optimistic way of looking at it, but yes.

  • Anonymous

    That depends on who’s course we are talking about. Far as I know the guys running this shit are pretty happy how it’s all worked out exactly to plan.

  • Anonymous

    That depends on who’s course we are talking about. Far as I know the guys running this shit are pretty happy how it’s all worked out exactly to plan.

  • Anonymous

    That depends on who’s course we are talking about. Far as I know the guys running this shit are pretty happy how it’s all worked out exactly to plan.

  • Anonymous

    The elders lie. The children learn it from them.

  • Anonymous

    The elders lie. The children learn it from them.

  • Anonymous

    The elders lie. The children learn it from them.

  • Anonymous

    The elders lie. The children learn it from them.

  • Anonymous

    The older I get the stronger I become. You have the Gospel, and in that is the truth of strength, as always, hidden under volumes of lies so the masters can’t find them.

    You’re still convinced you get sicker as you age, that you are disconnected, but that’s not what Jesus said. He said you were born with great power and it just gets greater until you kill it.

  • Anonymous

    The older I get the stronger I become. You have the Gospel, and in that is the truth of strength, as always, hidden under volumes of lies so the masters can’t find them.

    You’re still convinced you get sicker as you age, that you are disconnected, but that’s not what Jesus said. He said you were born with great power and it just gets greater until you kill it.

  • Anonymous

    The older I get the stronger I become. You have the Gospel, and in that is the truth of strength, as always, hidden under volumes of lies so the masters can’t find them.

    You’re still convinced you get sicker as you age, that you are disconnected, but that’s not what Jesus said. He said you were born with great power and it just gets greater until you kill it.

  • Anonymous

    The older I get the stronger I become. You have the Gospel, and in that is the truth of strength, as always, hidden under volumes of lies so the masters can’t find them.

    You’re still convinced you get sicker as you age, that you are disconnected, but that’s not what Jesus said. He said you were born with great power and it just gets greater until you kill it.

  • Anonymous

    People sit in a chair and think doing that for a long time makes them experienced. But only Experience can do that now can’t it. Can’t see the world through a TV set, you’re just seeing the singles from someone else’s brain. Upside down and backwards.

  • Anonymous

    People sit in a chair and think doing that for a long time makes them experienced. But only Experience can do that now can’t it. Can’t see the world through a TV set, you’re just seeing the singles from someone else’s brain. Upside down and backwards.

  • Anonymous

    People sit in a chair and think doing that for a long time makes them experienced. But only Experience can do that now can’t it. Can’t see the world through a TV set, you’re just seeing the singles from someone else’s brain. Upside down and backwards.

  • Anonymous

    We’ll need more than just hemp but it’s an important part!

  • Anonymous

    We’ll need more than just hemp but it’s an important part!

  • Anonymous

    We’ll need more than just hemp but it’s an important part!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J2BKVG44GLNRGIAYKD7UO4O27E Arthur Young

    I know what you are trying to say, but I have seen women with more strength than some of the people we have representing our Country in matters of the State !! I have heard the word Feminized to mean anyone who gets played for a patsy…or isn’t Macho enough. I f you look throughout the history of Humans you will see no shortage of women who have stepped up to the plate and hit the ball out of the field. As far as spineless backroom Judases we have a surplus of both sexes serving in our Local, State, and Federal Governments who serve themselves or their Sponsors. As far as ourselves we are entitled to express our power in vote, word, or protest but unfortunately the last time we Americans came together was immediately after 9-11 , the coming together was reassuring and then truth, spin, and business as usual kicked in after.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J2BKVG44GLNRGIAYKD7UO4O27E Arthur Young

    I know what you are trying to say, but I have seen women with more strength than some of the people we have representing our Country in matters of the State !! I have heard the word Feminized to mean anyone who gets played for a patsy…or isn’t Macho enough. I f you look throughout the history of Humans you will see no shortage of women who have stepped up to the plate and hit the ball out of the field. As far as spineless backroom Judases we have a surplus of both sexes serving in our Local, State, and Federal Governments who serve themselves or their Sponsors. As far as ourselves we are entitled to express our power in vote, word, or protest but unfortunately the last time we Americans came together was immediately after 9-11 , the coming together was reassuring and then truth, spin, and business as usual kicked in after.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J2BKVG44GLNRGIAYKD7UO4O27E Arthur Young

    I know what you are trying to say, but I have seen women with more strength than some of the people we have representing our Country in matters of the State !! I have heard the word Feminized to mean anyone who gets played for a patsy…or isn’t Macho enough. I f you look throughout the history of Humans you will see no shortage of women who have stepped up to the plate and hit the ball out of the field. As far as spineless backroom Judases we have a surplus of both sexes serving in our Local, State, and Federal Governments who serve themselves or their Sponsors. As far as ourselves we are entitled to express our power in vote, word, or protest but unfortunately the last time we Americans came together was immediately after 9-11 , the coming together was reassuring and then truth, spin, and business as usual kicked in after.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J2BKVG44GLNRGIAYKD7UO4O27E Arthur Young

    I know what you are trying to say, but I have seen women with more strength than some of the people we have representing our Country in matters of the State !! I have heard the word Feminized to mean anyone who gets played for a patsy…or isn’t Macho enough. I f you look throughout the history of Humans you will see no shortage of women who have stepped up to the plate and hit the ball out of the field. As far as spineless backroom Judases we have a surplus of both sexes serving in our Local, State, and Federal Governments who serve themselves or their Sponsors. As far as ourselves we are entitled to express our power in vote, word, or protest but unfortunately the last time we Americans came together was immediately after 9-11 , the coming together was reassuring and then truth, spin, and business as usual kicked in after.

  • Guest

    i aint denying that i hold some of the blame

  • Guest

    i aint denying that i hold some of the blame

  • Guest

    i aint denying that i hold some of the blame

  • Guest

    i aint denying that i hold some of the blame

  • Anonymous

    Yeah I know man.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah I know man.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah I know man.

  • http://wedeclare.wordpress.com/ Andy

    Oh come on. We need all the allies we can get. My Reformed Presbyterian pacifist revolutionaries are willing to join anybody who’s against the bankster/moneychangers.

  • http://wedeclare.wordpress.com/ Andy

    Oh come on. We need all the allies we can get. My Reformed Presbyterian pacifist revolutionaries are willing to join anybody who’s against the bankster/moneychangers.

  • http://wedeclare.wordpress.com/ Andy

    Oh come on. We need all the allies we can get. My Reformed Presbyterian pacifist revolutionaries are willing to join anybody who’s against the bankster/moneychangers.

  • http://wedeclare.wordpress.com/ Andy

    Oh come on. We need all the allies we can get. My Reformed Presbyterian pacifist revolutionaries are willing to join anybody who’s against the bankster/moneychangers.

  • http://wedeclare.wordpress.com/ Andy

    I’d thought I was the only one who thought this story was both amazing, and instructive.
    Should we learn from His Holy example and chase the moneychangers from our midst with whips of cords?
    It sounds like fun and justice.

  • http://wedeclare.wordpress.com/ Andy

    I’d thought I was the only one who thought this story was both amazing, and instructive.
    Should we learn from His Holy example and chase the moneychangers from our midst with whips of cords?
    It sounds like fun and justice.

  • http://wedeclare.wordpress.com/ Andy

    I’d thought I was the only one who thought this story was both amazing, and instructive.
    Should we learn from His Holy example and chase the moneychangers from our midst with whips of cords?
    It sounds like fun and justice.

  • http://wedeclare.wordpress.com/ Andy

    I’d thought I was the only one who thought this story was both amazing, and instructive.
    Should we learn from His Holy example and chase the moneychangers from our midst with whips of cords?
    It sounds like fun and justice.

  • http://wedeclare.wordpress.com/ Andy

    I’d thought I was the only one who thought this story was both amazing, and instructive.
    Should we learn from His Holy example and chase the moneychangers from our midst with whips of cords?
    It sounds like fun and justice.

  • http://wedeclare.wordpress.com/ Andy

    I’d thought I was the only one who thought this story was both amazing, and instructive.
    Should we learn from His Holy example and chase the moneychangers from our midst with whips of cords?
    It sounds like fun and justice.

  • Anonymous

    Jim, I sadly agree. It is equal to, “I’m a compassionate conservative” uttered out of the sneaky, phony mouth of the little w. guy. These two must have had the same communications person.

  • Anonymous

    Jim, I sadly agree. It is equal to, “I’m a compassionate conservative” uttered out of the sneaky, phony mouth of the little w. guy. These two must have had the same communications person.

  • Anonymous

    Jim, I sadly agree. It is equal to, “I’m a compassionate conservative” uttered out of the sneaky, phony mouth of the little w. guy. These two must have had the same communications person.

  • Anonymous

    Jim, I sadly agree. It is equal to, “I’m a compassionate conservative” uttered out of the sneaky, phony mouth of the little w. guy. These two must have had the same communications person.

  • Anonymous

    If the previous listing of the IVAMU related link did not work right, try
    this one:
    http://www.ivamu.com/ivamupressrelease.htm

  • Anonymous

    If the previous listing of the IVAMU related link did not work right, try
    this one:
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  • http://twitter.com/blutodog blutodog

    Chris is on to something here. I think he’s got it right that the Corpocracy is moving us to a kind of neo-feudal state. Collapse has already taken place in many regions of the country. Parts of the country however are relatively unscathed ( mostly not coincidentally in the Red states). No real resistance is IMO going to happen. Americans are sheep.

  • http://twitter.com/blutodog blutodog

    Chris is on to something here. I think he’s got it right that the Corpocracy is moving us to a kind of neo-feudal state. Collapse has already taken place in many regions of the country. Parts of the country however are relatively unscathed ( mostly not coincidentally in the Red states). No real resistance is IMO going to happen. Americans are sheep.

  • http://twitter.com/blutodog blutodog

    Chris is on to something here. I think he’s got it right that the Corpocracy is moving us to a kind of neo-feudal state. Collapse has already taken place in many regions of the country. Parts of the country however are relatively unscathed ( mostly not coincidentally in the Red states). No real resistance is IMO going to happen. Americans are sheep.

  • http://twitter.com/blutodog blutodog

    Chris is on to something here. I think he’s got it right that the Corpocracy is moving us to a kind of neo-feudal state. Collapse has already taken place in many regions of the country. Parts of the country however are relatively unscathed ( mostly not coincidentally in the Red states). No real resistance is IMO going to happen. Americans are sheep.

  • Anonymous

    “Duty is our responsibility. Victory is God’s”
    We cannot measure the value and or worth of this endeavor in such
    anticipated outcomes. “With God ALL things ARE possible.”
    God says about money, much, including, “The L-O-V-E of money is THE root of
    ALL evil.”
    Even Salvation itself is described in economic terms.
    Christ *PAID* for our sins.
    (Sin is also defined in the New Testament as the Violation of the Laws of
    God)
    God does NOT approve of unjust weights and measures. Which today, is
    inflation based money. It contains diverse vlaues. What it purchases today,
    may not be enough tomorrow. In fact, such is identified by God, as an
    abomination.
    So since God identifes our problems as being rooted in a system that is an
    abomination, and clearly, He does, and He says the LOVE of money is THE ROOT
    of ALL Evil, and it is, how is it possible to not address this issue head
    on?

    What is Victory?
    What is Lose?
    And what is the problem as you see it?

  • Anonymous

    “Duty is our responsibility. Victory is God’s”
    We cannot measure the value and or worth of this endeavor in such
    anticipated outcomes. “With God ALL things ARE possible.”
    God says about money, much, including, “The L-O-V-E of money is THE root of
    ALL evil.”
    Even Salvation itself is described in economic terms.
    Christ *PAID* for our sins.
    (Sin is also defined in the New Testament as the Violation of the Laws of
    God)
    God does NOT approve of unjust weights and measures. Which today, is
    inflation based money. It contains diverse vlaues. What it purchases today,
    may not be enough tomorrow. In fact, such is identified by God, as an
    abomination.
    So since God identifes our problems as being rooted in a system that is an
    abomination, and clearly, He does, and He says the LOVE of money is THE ROOT
    of ALL Evil, and it is, how is it possible to not address this issue head
    on?

    What is Victory?
    What is Lose?
    And what is the problem as you see it?

  • Anonymous

    “Duty is our responsibility. Victory is God’s”
    We cannot measure the value and or worth of this endeavor in such
    anticipated outcomes. “With God ALL things ARE possible.”
    God says about money, much, including, “The L-O-V-E of money is THE root of
    ALL evil.”
    Even Salvation itself is described in economic terms.
    Christ *PAID* for our sins.
    (Sin is also defined in the New Testament as the Violation of the Laws of
    God)
    God does NOT approve of unjust weights and measures. Which today, is
    inflation based money. It contains diverse vlaues. What it purchases today,
    may not be enough tomorrow. In fact, such is identified by God, as an
    abomination.
    So since God identifes our problems as being rooted in a system that is an
    abomination, and clearly, He does, and He says the LOVE of money is THE ROOT
    of ALL Evil, and it is, how is it possible to not address this issue head
    on?

    What is Victory?
    What is Lose?
    And what is the problem as you see it?

  • Anonymous

    Great books too I agree. All based in truths we know, all fiction at the same time… How strange.

  • Anonymous

    “Duty is our responsibility. Victory is God’s”
    We cannot measure the value and or worth of this endeavor in such
    anticipated outcomes. “With God ALL things ARE possible.”
    God says about money, much, including, “The L-O-V-E of money is THE root of
    ALL evil.”
    Even Salvation itself is described in economic terms.
    Christ *PAID* for our sins.
    (Sin is also defined in the New Testament as the Violation of the Laws of
    God)
    God does NOT approve of unjust weights and measures. Which today, is
    inflation based money. It contains diverse vlaues. What it purchases today,
    may not be enough tomorrow. In fact, such is identified by God, as an
    abomination.
    So since God identifes our problems as being rooted in a system that is an
    abomination, and clearly, He does, and He says the LOVE of money is THE ROOT
    of ALL Evil, and it is, how is it possible to not address this issue head
    on?

    What is Victory?
    What is Lose?
    And what is the problem as you see it?

  • Anonymous

    Great books too I agree. All based in truths we know, all fiction at the same time… How strange.

  • Anonymous

    Great books too I agree. All based in truths we know, all fiction at the same time… How strange.

  • Anonymous

    Great books too I agree. All based in truths we know, all fiction at the same time… How strange.

  • Anonymous

    “Duty is our responsibility. Victory is God’s”
    We cannot measure the value and or worth of this endeavor in such
    anticipated outcomes. “With God ALL things ARE possible.”
    God says about money, much, including, “The L-O-V-E of money is THE root of
    ALL evil.”
    Even Salvation itself is described in economic terms.
    Christ *PAID* for our sins.
    (Sin is also defined in the New Testament as the Violation of the Laws of
    God)
    God does NOT approve of unjust weights and measures. Which today, is
    inflation based money. It contains diverse vlaues. What it purchases today,
    may not be enough tomorrow. In fact, such is identified by God, as an
    abomination.
    So since God identifes our problems as being rooted in a system that is an
    abomination, and clearly, He does, and He says the LOVE of money is THE ROOT
    of ALL Evil, and it is, how is it possible to not address this issue head
    on?

    What is Victory?
    What is Lose?
    And what is the problem as you see it?

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/UR4DHHC3P6RRXIUP4LWX54YN7I hu

    Up with the lunatic fringe! I’m so sick of the lunatic center.

  • Oemissions

    the military industrial complex…Satan…
    Armagaeddon?

  • Anonymous

    Yeah. He’s probably right.

  • DesertSun59

    Oh, it’s gonna fail. Mathematically, there’s no way a nation can continue to rack up an exponential growth of debt, a logrithmic upswing in the need for cheap oil, and the continued arithmetic uptick in the need for other natural resources. A stopping point will be reached. That signals the end.

  • Anonymous

    I dont disagree with Ray so much. His preaching was getting off topic.

  • Anonymous

    I dont disagree with Ray so much. His preaching was getting off topic.

  • Anonymous

    I have to agree, I have thought for some time that the politicians have no foresight at all! They are all blinded by their greed. The decisions they are making for the betterment of the country are far and few between. They deregulate and are robbing the middle class to give money away to god only knows who for god only knows what! The politicians don’t keep track of our money and the money they insist on using for these damn illegal wars is disgusting! I saw recently a documentary of how people in the U.S. can help those less fortunate in other countries. We have children in this country that need help! They are homeless and hungry and if they go to school they aren’t getting a good education. I feel bad for all of those unfortunate children in foreign countries, but when are people going to take care of the “unfortunates” in our country? We know the good politicians are hard to find and they aren’t republicans. The republicans don’t care about the unfortunates and they have one piece of advice for all those unfortunates and that is “you should have had a better plan”!!

  • Anonymous

    I have to agree, I have thought for some time that the politicians have no foresight at all! They are all blinded by their greed. The decisions they are making for the betterment of the country are far and few between. They deregulate and are robbing the middle class to give money away to god only knows who for god only knows what! The politicians don’t keep track of our money and the money they insist on using for these damn illegal wars is disgusting! I saw recently a documentary of how people in the U.S. can help those less fortunate in other countries. We have children in this country that need help! They are homeless and hungry and if they go to school they aren’t getting a good education. I feel bad for all of those unfortunate children in foreign countries, but when are people going to take care of the “unfortunates” in our country? We know the good politicians are hard to find and they aren’t republicans. The republicans don’t care about the unfortunates and they have one piece of advice for all those unfortunates and that is “you should have had a better plan”!!

  • Anonymous

    They’ll be no match for my brazilian bikini-clad amazon-warrior heavy artillery regiment…

  • Anonymous

    They’ll be no match for my brazilian bikini-clad amazon-warrior heavy artillery regiment…

  • Anonymous

    Hi Richard.

    (sighned) Jimmy

  • Anonymous

    Hi Richard.

    (sighned) Jimmy

  • Anonymous

    Yes really!
    They haven’t missed a check since 1935, so what! If you think that because they haven’t missed a check that disqualifies it as a ponzi scheme you know very little about Social security and even less about ponzi schemes. Bernie Madoff ran his ponzi scheme for over fifteen years.
    If you want to live in your “womb to tomb” society you can move to the U.S.S.R, wait a minute they went bust didn’t they. Well I guess you don’t have anywhere to go. The terribly funny thing about your post is that its you that wants to move Somalia here.

    By the way it was President Johnson that came up with the Unified Budget which placed all government trust funds “on budget”. since that time Republicans and Democrats have been happy to include its surpluses to mask their deficits. Unfortunately now there are no surpluses to make the government numbers look any better. In fact soon they well turn into liabilities as the government starts making good on all those special bonds in the “trust fund”.

  • Anonymous

    Yes really!
    They haven’t missed a check since 1935, so what! If you think that because they haven’t missed a check that disqualifies it as a ponzi scheme you know very little about Social security and even less about ponzi schemes. Bernie Madoff ran his ponzi scheme for over fifteen years.
    If you want to live in your “womb to tomb” society you can move to the U.S.S.R, wait a minute they went bust didn’t they. Well I guess you don’t have anywhere to go. The terribly funny thing about your post is that its you that wants to move Somalia here.

    By the way it was President Johnson that came up with the Unified Budget which placed all government trust funds “on budget”. since that time Republicans and Democrats have been happy to include its surpluses to mask their deficits. Unfortunately now there are no surpluses to make the government numbers look any better. In fact soon they well turn into liabilities as the government starts making good on all those special bonds in the “trust fund”.

  • ghostof911

    Like your comment about the 60′s being a convenient excuse to destroy our society. The destruction was inevitable after their getting away with the coup d’etat of 1963, but since hippie bashing is so much fun, why not?

  • ghostof911

    Like your comment about the 60′s being a convenient excuse to destroy our society. The destruction was inevitable after their getting away with the coup d’etat of 1963, but since hippie bashing is so much fun, why not?

  • ghostof911

    That is a great story about Rubbermaid, thanks for posting it. Regretably, there are thousands of other stories just like that that no one knows about except the people directly affected.

  • ghostof911

    That is a great story about Rubbermaid, thanks for posting it. Regretably, there are thousands of other stories just like that that no one knows about except the people directly affected.

  • Anonymous

    NOw that’s any army I can stand behind, beside, above, whatever the best angle is.

    Besides when the enemy pops a boner y’all can convince them about anything.

  • Anonymous

    NOw that’s any army I can stand behind, beside, above, whatever the best angle is.

    Besides when the enemy pops a boner y’all can convince them about anything.

  • Anonymous

    Haha, make no mistake I welcome the Amish army (even if they refuse to fight on religious grounds) I just don’t want them near the Hippies. The outfits clash. We want to look good, this the 21 century after all.

  • Anonymous

    Haha, make no mistake I welcome the Amish army (even if they refuse to fight on religious grounds) I just don’t want them near the Hippies. The outfits clash. We want to look good, this the 21 century after all.

  • Anonymous

    The evidence against water fluoridation is not made up. The science at best supports topical application of fluoride to strengthen teeth; but systemic application is harmful to one’s health.

    To say “there has been fluoride in the drinking water for decades! ” is a very curious argument because chronic diseases have been on the rise for decades. You can’t argue in the presence of a lot of illness that “X is harmless because otherwise there would a lot of illness”! The logic of that is absurd.

    Water fluoridation was never about science or protecting public health; it’s simply a convenient way for industry to dispose of a toxic waste product- by putting it into the water supply and thereby turning a liability into an asset.

  • Anonymous

    The evidence against water fluoridation is not made up. The science at best supports topical application of fluoride to strengthen teeth; but systemic application is harmful to one’s health.

    To say “there has been fluoride in the drinking water for decades! ” is a very curious argument because chronic diseases have been on the rise for decades. You can’t argue in the presence of a lot of illness that “X is harmless because otherwise there would a lot of illness”! The logic of that is absurd.

    Water fluoridation was never about science or protecting public health; it’s simply a convenient way for industry to dispose of a toxic waste product- by putting it into the water supply and thereby turning a liability into an asset.

  • Anonymous

    The evidence against water fluoridation is not made up. The science at best supports topical application of fluoride to strengthen teeth; but systemic application is harmful to one’s health.

    To say “there has been fluoride in the drinking water for decades! ” is a very curious argument because chronic diseases have been on the rise for decades. You can’t argue in the presence of a lot of illness that “X is harmless because otherwise there would a lot of illness”! The logic of that is absurd.

    Water fluoridation was never about science or protecting public health; it’s simply a convenient way for industry to dispose of a toxic waste product- by putting it into the water supply and thereby turning a liability into an asset.

  • Anonymous

    If only…no way the U.S. is feminized. If it was, these wars would NEVER have started. Feminized isn’t crazy, like the country has been ever since Ronnie Raygun was prez. Please.

  • Anonymous

    If only…no way the U.S. is feminized. If it was, these wars would NEVER have started. Feminized isn’t crazy, like the country has been ever since Ronnie Raygun was prez. Please.

  • Anonymous

    If only…no way the U.S. is feminized. If it was, these wars would NEVER have started. Feminized isn’t crazy, like the country has been ever since Ronnie Raygun was prez. Please.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    You’re not so dum. You’re right about that.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    You’re not so dum. You’re right about that.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    You’re not so dum. You’re right about that.

  • Anonymous

    Whats also a crime is u can just about import anything (personally) up to $800 usd per day without any VAT or Taxes/Duty or anything.

    Try to do this in any other country and you will see mass VAT Taxes, import duty and such. We accept all foreign imports easily but to export our product it’s a nightmare by comparison.

  • Anonymous

    Whats also a crime is u can just about import anything (personally) up to $800 usd per day without any VAT or Taxes/Duty or anything.

    Try to do this in any other country and you will see mass VAT Taxes, import duty and such. We accept all foreign imports easily but to export our product it’s a nightmare by comparison.

  • Anonymous

    Whats also a crime is u can just about import anything (personally) up to $800 usd per day without any VAT or Taxes/Duty or anything.

    Try to do this in any other country and you will see mass VAT Taxes, import duty and such. We accept all foreign imports easily but to export our product it’s a nightmare by comparison.

  • Anonymous

    Whats also a crime is u can just about import anything (personally) up to $800 usd per day without any VAT or Taxes/Duty or anything.

    Try to do this in any other country and you will see mass VAT Taxes, import duty and such. We accept all foreign imports easily but to export our product it’s a nightmare by comparison.

  • Anonymous

    How long it takes to spend a trillion? And then the next trillion and the next trillion? It’s crazy as crazy could be! Blame voters and China.

  • Anonymous

    How long it takes to spend a trillion? And then the next trillion and the next trillion? It’s crazy as crazy could be! Blame voters and China.

  • XYZ123

    They are destroying her from within and without, emptying out her coffers and that of her people, corrupting her institutions and throwing her and her people into senseless conflict after senseless conflict. The method is thesis – antithesis – synthesis..so they control both sides of the argument (republican & democrat, pro-war & anti-war, pro bail out & anti bailout, etc) and thereafter the result. When ones looks back and sees the bigger picture, one will notice the same pattern playing out and a synthesis in the waiting. America was simply a vessel and she has almost reached her destination. The last time this happened World War erupted so the synthesis of the time could be introduced. It is probably too late now for America..and the signs of another world war are all over the place. But hey, they just repealed DADT…so they can’t be all bad right? (sarcasm)

  • XYZ123

    They are destroying her from within and without, emptying out her coffers and that of her people, corrupting her institutions and throwing her and her people into senseless conflict after senseless conflict. The method is thesis – antithesis – synthesis..so they control both sides of the argument (republican & democrat, pro-war & anti-war, pro bail out & anti bailout, etc) and thereafter the result. When ones looks back and sees the bigger picture, one will notice the same pattern playing out and a synthesis in the waiting. America was simply a vessel and she has almost reached her destination. The last time this happened World War erupted so the synthesis of the time could be introduced. It is probably too late now for America..and the signs of another world war are all over the place. But hey, they just repealed DADT…so they can’t be all bad right? (sarcasm)

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  • XYZ123

    Excuse the half joking comment..but…Its not that they don’t have foresight….they have foresight….its the foreskin that a suspiciously high number of those in power in the US seem to be lacking…..maybe the state of the nation has something to do with the fact that those in power have no loyalty to the country?

  • XYZ123

    Excuse the half joking comment..but…Its not that they don’t have foresight….they have foresight….its the foreskin that a suspiciously high number of those in power in the US seem to be lacking…..maybe the state of the nation has something to do with the fact that those in power have no loyalty to the country?

  • Anonymous

    You’re absolutely right, however, people simply won’t take an honest look at this issue — it’s amazing to me that water fluoridation has been going on as long as it has.

    Apparently, fooling most of the people all of the time just ain’t all that difficult.

  • Anonymous

    You’re absolutely right, however, people simply won’t take an honest look at this issue — it’s amazing to me that water fluoridation has been going on as long as it has.

    Apparently, fooling most of the people all of the time just ain’t all that difficult.

  • Anonymous

    You’re absolutely right, however, people simply won’t take an honest look at this issue — it’s amazing to me that water fluoridation has been going on as long as it has.

    Apparently, fooling most of the people all of the time just ain’t all that difficult.

  • Anonymous

    You’re absolutely right, however, people simply won’t take an honest look at this issue — it’s amazing to me that water fluoridation has been going on as long as it has.

    Apparently, fooling most of the people all of the time just ain’t all that difficult.

  • Anonymous

    In regard to your statement, “I dispise (sic) the fact that one’s sexuality is a basis for equal protection under the law”, I’m driven to ask, “WHY DO YOU GIVE A FUCK?” Why does the prospect of gays and lesbians receiving equal rights under the law frighten you so? Just how, exactly, are you being threatened? You ask what is “acceptable” behavior? Pretty much anything that doesn’t cause harm to others, I would say.
    Me, I would love to go back to the days when bigots, racists and self-righteous hypocrites like you had to keep their dangerous, hate-mongering, un-American thoughts confined to Klan rallies. America really WAS a much better place.

  • Anonymous

    If you want to go back to a time when a family of four could actually survive on a single paycheck, you need to return to pre-1980 America. Back before Reagan initiated the Republicans’ war on the middle class with his union busting and tax policies. I remember those days. My mother could stay home while my father worked. It WAS a somewhat ideal situation.
    EVERYTHING YOU RAVE ON ABOUT CAN BE DIRECTLY ATTRIBUTED TO POLICIES ENACTED BY YOUR BELOVED, SO-CALLED ‘CONSERVATIVE’ RIGHT-WING.
    The world only began to hate us when GWB thumbed his nose at world opinion and waged war on a neutral country with his illegal, immoral invasion. Immediately post 9/11, if you’ll recall, we had the support and sympathy of the entire planet. Bush squandered it all. He and Cheney, in 8 short years, managed to bankrupt the country, kill hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians (not to mention thousands of American military personnel), and become a world-class embarrassment. Where have you BEEN? The world hates us “right now”? Because OBAMA “is a joke”?? The world REJOICED and breathed a collective sigh of relief when we rejected Bush’s agenda in the form of McCain/Palin and elected Obama in 2008.
    But why am I trying to reason with somebody who actually advocates “..getting rid of the acceptance of gay and lesbian people and the mentally ill transgendered and confused bisexuals” as a way of solving our nation’s ills?
    Are you actually PROUD to be such an ignorant stereotype?

  • Anonymous

    I predict that the new name for the post empire nation will be either New Israel or The Zionist States of Amerika

  • Anonymous

    Don’t let the pessimists take best of you, God bless our country, WE ARE SAFE AS EVER!

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    [...] As far as the speed of imperial collapse, it varies: Rome took five centuries to collapse but USSR took just a couple of years. Alfred W. McCoy, Professor of History at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, recently wrote: "empires regularly unravel with unholy speed: just a year for Portugal, two years for the Soviet Union, eight years for France, 11 years for the Ottomans, 17 years for Great Britain, and, in all likelihood, 22 years for the United States, counting from the crucial year 2003." My hunch is that McCoy's 22-year estimate is overly generous, and that the collapse of the USA will set a speed record, unfolding over just a handful of very strange days. When will this happen? According to Chris Hedges, it could happen any time now.] [...]

  • Anonymous

    Just what we need: Psychopaths and grifters for leaders-haven’t we had enough of that?

  • Anonymous

    I’m sure there were CIA moles in the political and countercultural ranks, but I don’t know names – do you?

  • Anonymous

    Ellen Brown on the Fed – http://www.webofdebt.com – an education!

  • Anonymous

    I remember the saying from the old brits “the sun never sets on the British Empire” meaning that they had satellites world wide and the sun was always up on one of them.. Well, we’ve taken over for the brits. It’s easy to see and hard to deny.

    We have become the imperialists that the brits have given up being.

  • http://thejoesteelblog.blogspot.com/ Joe_Steel

    America will fail because Americans don’t deserve what we think America is. We’re not willing to do the tough, dirty jobs which keep the foundation strong. We’re not willing to take an active part in the life of the community because we’re too busy with our personal concerns. That weakens not only our community but ourselves. No one is as independent of our fellows as he thinks he is. We are part of the whole. When the whole is strong, the parts are strong.

  • Anonymous

    Are you campaigning for Obama 2008 or 2012?
    All the words from the cloud is what bringing your country down to her knees. It’s better and more practical to learn and deal with reality than plug your ears and cover your eyes. Assuming everything are okay and they will turn okay? No! Trouble won’t go away by pretending optimism. The best way to deal with hardship is recognize troubles and learn way to handle them.
    I found something quite impressive to watch.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQmz6Rbpnu0&NR=1&feature=fvwp

  • Anonymous

    We met regularly at a pub. I asked my friend “who do you think is the the most dangerous country in the world?”. He said “I dunno, maybe North Korea or Iran?”. And you know , I said, would it be the US of America.

    He. looked at me , incredulously, and said not a chance.

    And I said yes, we are.

  • Anonymous

    With your idea, we’d still be 13 colonies.

    I’m asking, what would that look like NOW?

  • Anonymous

    Blame yourself. If no one in America saves or studies science or math, if 1/3 of Americans count on the Rapture to solve their problems, if looking for scapegoats is the answer to problems, it’s not the fault of anyone in China.

  • Anonymous

    Blame yourself. If no one in America saves or studies science or math, if 1/3 of Americans count on the Rapture to solve their problems, if looking for scapegoats is the answer to problems, it’s not the fault of anyone in China.

  • Anonymous

    Run, baby run. You’re such a stud.

  • Anonymous

    Run, baby run. You’re such a stud.

  • Anonymous

    Most people in the world don’t give a damn; they are busy raising their own food — something most Americans would be smart to learn to do.

  • Anonymous

    Most people in the world don’t give a damn; they are busy raising their own food — something most Americans would be smart to learn to do.

  • Anonymous

    More like the civil wars in Bosnia or Congo.

  • Anonymous

    More like the civil wars in Bosnia or Congo.

  • Anonymous

    Always take the credit for your successes and blame someone else for your mistakes. “They” is looking at you in the mirror.

  • Anonymous

    Always take the credit for your successes and blame someone else for your mistakes. “They” is looking at you in the mirror.

  • Anonymous

    The collapse occurred Inauguration Day 2001!!

  • Anonymous

    The collapse occurred Inauguration Day 2001!!

  • Anonymous

    Are you a libertarian?

  • Anonymous

    Are you a libertarian?

  • Anonymous

    Go Ducks! Auburn’s ass is grass.

  • Anonymous

    Go Ducks! Auburn’s ass is grass.

  • Anonymous

    C’mon dude, get some specifics in here. Otherwise, go away.

  • Anonymous

    C’mon dude, get some specifics in here. Otherwise, go away.

  • Dirk

    “The Smirking Chimp” has been running predictions like this since the early 2000s. Wishful thinking.

  • Dirk

    “The Smirking Chimp” has been running predictions like this since the early 2000s. Wishful thinking.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_M5FLH5JI4ZXJM422NAD6M5SS7U wc fields

    keep moving everyone, nothing to see here. everything is just fine.

    thank you pollyanna.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_M5FLH5JI4ZXJM422NAD6M5SS7U wc fields

    i’d go with The United Banks of America

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_M5FLH5JI4ZXJM422NAD6M5SS7U wc fields

    the myth of the ‘pioneer’ american, exploring and conquering the wilderness, self sufficient, taming the land, is just that. daniel boone, lewis and clark, the alamo, have been replaced by security cameras, wiretaps, body scanners, sneak and peek searches.

    9/11 proved goebells right;
    “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

  • Anonymous

    http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/24/bush-deficit-vs-obama-deficit-in-pictures/

    The last two Presidents are “so strong” on budget planning and economical directing. That indicates the declining in voters’ critical thinking ability. One of the reason is the prejudice that built up mainly by jealousy and it’s being covered by madeup facts. “Oh! she’s a witch! He’s a corupted rich!” The real talented are eliminated before he/she can reach out to help. _Even if Bill Gate wants to help, he can not get through voters’ mindset to help.

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  • Anonymous

    I think I’ll start a crusade against the Italians for sentencing him to death. That should end your questions.

  • Anonymous

    You know what Kimbutgar – you and I wholeheartly agree! Sorry for my seemingly harsh words….I just get frustrated when it looks like people are blaming their own party. It is scary times, very scary times and I worry about my and others grandchildren and what they will wake to find. I only hope the pendulum will swing back before too long to the love and peace we searched for in the 60s.

  • Anonymous

    There were 47,000 factories that were shut down and dismantled during W’s 8 years ALONE. I doubt that any country in the history of the world has been so nationally foolish as we have been. Those responsible should be given the constitutionally required remedy for treason. It’s called hanging.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    The irony is Islam recognizes Christ as a Prophet and Messenger of God and the Koran has many references to him while Judaism does not recognize Jesus as the Christ at all to this very Day.

    This fact alone is an unfinished bridge to the Islamic world in their measurement of Time and their perception in their Year 1432 after Muhammad. Most Christian America in the Year of The Lord 2010, doesn’t recognize this potential in it’s unquestioning/uncritical support of all things Jewish/Israeli. Maybe this has something to do with the Jewish/Israeli Star of David being on the back of every American Dollar Bill?

    http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://www.shadowresistance.com/ist2_589717-great-seal-of-the-united-states-on-one-dollar-bill.jpg&imgrefurl=http://tweleve.org/maranatha/25596-page-38-finds-codes-3.html&usg=__FOFup1tGTwPIVdUyyV_4UcKusqQ=&h=380&w=373&sz=100&hl=en&start=15&zoom=1&tbnid=R9lOwKzTznBquM:&tbnh=124&tbnw=122&prev=/images%3Fq%3DUS%2Bdollar%2B-%2BStar%2Bof%2Bdavid%26hl%3Den%26newwindow%3D1%26safe%3Doff%26biw%3D1024%26bih%3D551%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:10%2C362&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=591&ei=WTYOTfHZMJqknAe8ssifDg&oei=GjYOTfqSJMP_nAeKtKDXDQ&esq=2&page=2&ndsp=17&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:15&tx=54&ty=42&biw=1024&bih=551

    This is not to suggest support for Israel be abandoned. The reconstituted State of Israel after 3000 years is a creation of the Bible, with real nuclear weapons in this realpolitik world even if most people don’t believe the Bible story.

    O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you that kills the prophets, and stones them which are sent to you, how often would I have gathered your children together, even as a hen gathers her chickens under her wings, and you would not!
    Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
    For I say to you, You shall not see me henceforth, till you shall say, Blessed is he that comes in the name of the Lord.
    Matthew 23

    To this very Day, 2000 years later, Jerusalem, where Christ was crucified, and where Islam and Judaism meet, is still centre stage in the world of realpolitik. It is Christianity sitting on the fence.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    The irony is Islam recognizes Christ as a Prophet and Messenger of God and the Koran has many references to him while Judaism does not recognize Jesus as the Christ at all to this very Day.

    This fact alone is an unfinished bridge to the Islamic world in their measurement of Time and their perception in their Year 1432 after Muhammad. Most Christian America in the Year of The Lord 2010, doesn’t recognize this potential in it’s unquestioning/uncritical support of all things Jewish/Israeli. Maybe this has something to do with the Jewish/Israeli Star of David being on the back of every American Dollar Bill?

    http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://www.shadowresistance.com/ist2_589717-great-seal-of-the-united-states-on-one-dollar-bill.jpg&imgrefurl=http://tweleve.org/maranatha/25596-page-38-finds-codes-3.html&usg=__FOFup1tGTwPIVdUyyV_4UcKusqQ=&h=380&w=373&sz=100&hl=en&start=15&zoom=1&tbnid=R9lOwKzTznBquM:&tbnh=124&tbnw=122&prev=/images%3Fq%3DUS%2Bdollar%2B-%2BStar%2Bof%2Bdavid%26hl%3Den%26newwindow%3D1%26safe%3Doff%26biw%3D1024%26bih%3D551%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:10%2C362&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=591&ei=WTYOTfHZMJqknAe8ssifDg&oei=GjYOTfqSJMP_nAeKtKDXDQ&esq=2&page=2&ndsp=17&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:15&tx=54&ty=42&biw=1024&bih=551

    This is not to suggest support for Israel be abandoned. The reconstituted State of Israel after 3000 years is a creation of the Bible, with real nuclear weapons in this realpolitik world even if most people don’t believe the Bible story.

    O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you that kills the prophets, and stones them which are sent to you, how often would I have gathered your children together, even as a hen gathers her chickens under her wings, and you would not!
    Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
    For I say to you, You shall not see me henceforth, till you shall say, Blessed is he that comes in the name of the Lord.
    Matthew 23

    To this very Day, 2000 years later, Jerusalem, where Christ was crucified, and where Islam and Judaism meet, is still centre stage in the world of realpolitik. It is Christianity sitting on the fence.

  • grindermonkey

    All of the personal angst that you can muster will not alter these problems. They must be faced by keen social agents of change who manage our public affairs with intelligence and wisdom. Unplug the ‘machine’ and it will be very, very dark – an anti enlightenment atmosphere of phantoms, fire and white men dancing beneath their gods.

  • grindermonkey

    All of the personal angst that you can muster will not alter these problems. They must be faced by keen social agents of change who manage our public affairs with intelligence and wisdom. Unplug the ‘machine’ and it will be very, very dark – an anti enlightenment atmosphere of phantoms, fire and white men dancing beneath their gods.

  • Anonymous

    Not crazy at all, I am not blind to reality unlike you and some others here.

  • Anonymous

    Not crazy at all, I am not blind to reality unlike you and some others here.

  • Anonymous

    Wow, your very ignorant, the world is trying to drop the dollar, Russia and China have almost dropped it completely, when it comes to trade between them they already did. Gold/silver will be the currency of the future, like it or not, there is a world wide movement in that direction and other governments are threatening it.

    Stunning arrogance, it comes from decades of being the “worlds only superpower”, soon some lessons will be taught.

  • Anonymous

    Wow, your very ignorant, the world is trying to drop the dollar, Russia and China have almost dropped it completely, when it comes to trade between them they already did. Gold/silver will be the currency of the future, like it or not, there is a world wide movement in that direction and other governments are threatening it.

    Stunning arrogance, it comes from decades of being the “worlds only superpower”, soon some lessons will be taught.

  • Jaimie11

    off the top of my head – steinem, leary, ernest withers, many left political groups were front organizations for CIA and FBI, many journalists. Same thing happening now – some groups are fronts for undercover surveillance and false flag terrorism set ups.

    Here’s a start but don’t stop at this – it’s only the tip of the iceberg…

    http://www.carlbernstein.com/magazine_cia_and_media.php

  • Jaimie11

    off the top of my head – steinem, leary, ernest withers, many left political groups were front organizations for CIA and FBI, many journalists. Same thing happening now – some groups are fronts for undercover surveillance and false flag terrorism set ups.

    Here’s a start but don’t stop at this – it’s only the tip of the iceberg…

    http://www.carlbernstein.com/magazine_cia_and_media.php

  • Jaimie11

    And those legislative victories served to expand government – now who the hell wants a criminal murderous government to be given more and more power?

    BostonMan is right in many respects – we cannot win a violent revolution – we are out-weaponed. It will only be won by unceasing mental effort, by revealing the ugly truths to the people, not just to Americans but all people, and taking back the institutions one by one. A slower process for sure, but the only winnable way.

    I agree with you in spirit Hitthestreets, but realistically, how many deaths in the streets will be acceptable, how many sympathizers in work camps?

  • Jaimie11

    And those legislative victories served to expand government – now who the hell wants a criminal murderous government to be given more and more power?

    BostonMan is right in many respects – we cannot win a violent revolution – we are out-weaponed. It will only be won by unceasing mental effort, by revealing the ugly truths to the people, not just to Americans but all people, and taking back the institutions one by one. A slower process for sure, but the only winnable way.

    I agree with you in spirit Hitthestreets, but realistically, how many deaths in the streets will be acceptable, how many sympathizers in work camps?

  • Anonymous

    Must be nice to live in the land of complete disconnect. AKA “ignorance is bliss”.

  • Anonymous

    Must be nice to live in the land of complete disconnect. AKA “ignorance is bliss”.

  • Anonymous

    Most if not all elections are fixed so, no, we don’t really get to choose. If they aren’t fixed at the actual ballot box, they are fixed by the corporate-controlled mainstream media who only allow certain candidates to attend the debates, and if a populist candidate starts going up in the polls, their credibility is immediately destroyed (see: Dukakis, Howard, Kucinich).

  • Anonymous

    Most if not all elections are fixed so, no, we don’t really get to choose. If they aren’t fixed at the actual ballot box, they are fixed by the corporate-controlled mainstream media who only allow certain candidates to attend the debates, and if a populist candidate starts going up in the polls, their credibility is immediately destroyed (see: Dukakis, Howard, Kucinich).

  • Anonymous

    God doesn’t exist. People have to fix this. Being complacent and thinking praying will fix it is part of what got us into this mess.

    They don’t call religion the opiate of the masses for nothin’.

  • Anonymous

    God doesn’t exist. People have to fix this. Being complacent and thinking praying will fix it is part of what got us into this mess.

    They don’t call religion the opiate of the masses for nothin’.

  • Anonymous

    Every single word of your comment is a lie, including “the” and “is”.

  • Anonymous

    Every single word of your comment is a lie, including “the” and “is”.

  • Anonymous

    You can refuse to receive social security.

    Our taxes are way lower than other countries which is why all of this is happening. You can’t have your cake and eat it, too. Pony up with the taxes, or give up your garbage collection, police, fire department, education, parks, roads, infrastructure, and see where that gets you.

    The logical conclusion to libertarianism is feudalism like in the dark ages with everyone fighting over their dirt roads and plots of land.

    Good luck with that. The general population will always reject it.

  • Anonymous

    You can refuse to receive social security.

    Our taxes are way lower than other countries which is why all of this is happening. You can’t have your cake and eat it, too. Pony up with the taxes, or give up your garbage collection, police, fire department, education, parks, roads, infrastructure, and see where that gets you.

    The logical conclusion to libertarianism is feudalism like in the dark ages with everyone fighting over their dirt roads and plots of land.

    Good luck with that. The general population will always reject it.

  • Anonymous

    TOtally. Work for yourself, don’t pay taxes. There are legal ways around it. You are just too lazy to figure it out.

    Cake & eat it too….

  • Anonymous

    TOtally. Work for yourself, don’t pay taxes. There are legal ways around it. You are just too lazy to figure it out.

    Cake & eat it too….

  • Anonymous

    Ha ha ha! “Ponzi Scheme” – talking point directly from FauxNoise. Hilarious… do you ever think for yourself?

  • Anonymous

    Ha ha ha! “Ponzi Scheme” – talking point directly from FauxNoise. Hilarious… do you ever think for yourself?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3IKUWOREXDMFEBSKZQGQDJ42PQ judithn

    I didn’t see this protest on any tv station. Maybe what we need is for 10,000 protestors of the war. It would be more difficult for ALL of the news media to block out. Freedom of speech, freedom to assenble peacefully, Ha. What a debacle. What Hedges doesn’t mention is just how does one get the momentum for 10,000 protestors activated? Sure isn’t happening on campus.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3IKUWOREXDMFEBSKZQGQDJ42PQ judithn

    I didn’t see this protest on any tv station. Maybe what we need is for 10,000 protestors of the war. It would be more difficult for ALL of the news media to block out. Freedom of speech, freedom to assenble peacefully, Ha. What a debacle. What Hedges doesn’t mention is just how does one get the momentum for 10,000 protestors activated? Sure isn’t happening on campus.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3IKUWOREXDMFEBSKZQGQDJ42PQ judithn

    I didn’t see this protest on any tv station. Maybe what we need is for 10,000 protestors of the war. It would be more difficult for ALL of the news media to block out. Freedom of speech, freedom to assenble peacefully, Ha. What a debacle. What Hedges doesn’t mention is just how does one get the momentum for 10,000 protestors activated? Sure isn’t happening on campus.

  • http://truth4freedom.wordpress.com/2010/12/19/chris-hedges-the-american-empire-is-collapsing-like-the-ussr/ Chris Hedges: The American Empire Is Collapsing Like The USSR « Truth2Freedom's Blog
  • way2go

    One alarming circumstance that few have followed up on is a Washington Post interview with General David Petraeus over two years ago. In that interview, before General Stanley McChrystal was forced out of his command in Afghanistan due to insubordination, General Petraeus said that the U.S. would need 650,000 troops on the ground in that country for at least 10 years to stabilize the country. Further eroding our current presence in that country are several factors that make it even more dangerous and unlikely that we can win much of anything in Afghanistan.

    1. The literacy rate is only 28% and even less for women, 13%.
    2. The average life expectancy is under 45-years-old.
    3. The poppy crop now supplies over 90% of the world’s opium demand and we are doing next to nothing to eradicate it.
    4. The Hamid Karzai government is more corrupt than it was before Bush installed him in the aftermath of pushing al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden into the mountains of Tora Bora.
    5. Pakistan, instead of aiding the U.S. in destroying the insurgents and militant Taliban, is harboring them inside its own borders. Pakistan still trains terrorists to kill Americans in the madrassas of Islamabad and Karachi.
    6. Thanks to George W. Bush’s abandonment of the war in Afghanistan there are more advanced and more powerful I.E.D.s which were honed and perfected in Iraq’s ten-year insurgency against the U.S. as well as even more sophisticated weapons that flow freely across the border between Iraq and Iran. They easily enter Afghanistan where our limited manpower cannot effectively interdict their movement.

    General Petraeus needs to testify in front of Congress and the American people explaining that without a commitment of troops and resources that he suggested two years ago we cannot gain any of the initial objectives in Afghanistan. It’s time to leave, plain and simple.

  • way2go

    One alarming circumstance that few have followed up on is a Washington Post interview with General David Petraeus over two years ago. In that interview, before General Stanley McChrystal was forced out of his command in Afghanistan due to insubordination, General Petraeus said that the U.S. would need 650,000 troops on the ground in that country for at least 10 years to stabilize the country. Further eroding our current presence in that country are several factors that make it even more dangerous and unlikely that we can win much of anything in Afghanistan.

    1. The literacy rate is only 28% and even less for women, 13%.
    2. The average life expectancy is under 45-years-old.
    3. The poppy crop now supplies over 90% of the world’s opium demand and we are doing next to nothing to eradicate it.
    4. The Hamid Karzai government is more corrupt than it was before Bush installed him in the aftermath of pushing al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden into the mountains of Tora Bora.
    5. Pakistan, instead of aiding the U.S. in destroying the insurgents and militant Taliban, is harboring them inside its own borders. Pakistan still trains terrorists to kill Americans in the madrassas of Islamabad and Karachi.
    6. Thanks to George W. Bush’s abandonment of the war in Afghanistan there are more advanced and more powerful I.E.D.s which were honed and perfected in Iraq’s ten-year insurgency against the U.S. as well as even more sophisticated weapons that flow freely across the border between Iraq and Iran. They easily enter Afghanistan where our limited manpower cannot effectively interdict their movement.

    General Petraeus needs to testify in front of Congress and the American people explaining that without a commitment of troops and resources that he suggested two years ago we cannot gain any of the initial objectives in Afghanistan. It’s time to leave, plain and simple.

  • Anonymous

    It’s time to return the “public airways” back to the people. Major corporate media networks have abused their licenses to our “public airways” and so the people should rightfully now demand them back.

  • Anonymous

    It’s time to return the “public airways” back to the people. Major corporate media networks have abused their licenses to our “public airways” and so the people should rightfully now demand them back.

  • WaStConcerned

    ….good luck with that – they make a profit and are not going to give it up….

  • WaStConcerned

    ….good luck with that – they make a profit and are not going to give it up….

  • WaStConcerned

    I have often wondered – if the war was winnable in Afghanistan, why did Bush abandon it?

  • WaStConcerned

    I have often wondered – if the war was winnable in Afghanistan, why did Bush abandon it?

  • XYZ123

    very true…and the implications of this are profound. It goes completely against the selfish, individualistic and materialistic set of ideals that get repackaged and promoted as freedom and free markets. The “package” consists of an entirely different set of ideals that have not only mostly disappeared from mainstream America, but are typically taboo because they seem to carry negative connotations in the mind of the “modern human”

  • XYZ123

    very true…and the implications of this are profound. It goes completely against the selfish, individualistic and materialistic set of ideals that get repackaged and promoted as freedom and free markets. The “package” consists of an entirely different set of ideals that have not only mostly disappeared from mainstream America, but are typically taboo because they seem to carry negative connotations in the mind of the “modern human”

  • Anonymous

    Judging from your complete and detailed rebuttal of my position I have to ask.
    Do you think at all?
    If I’m wrong PROVE it.

  • Anonymous

    Judging from your complete and detailed rebuttal of my position I have to ask.
    Do you think at all?
    If I’m wrong PROVE it.

  • Anonymous

    There is an old Hungarian proverb that goes something like this “Tell the truth then run!”.

  • Anonymous

    There is an old Hungarian proverb that goes something like this “Tell the truth then run!”.

  • Anonymous

    There is an old Hungarian proverb that goes something like this “Tell the truth then run!”.

  • Anonymous

    Haha, the Literaty of Academe. I get it, and thanks. You either reside in a plan above or below what I am saying because clearly you are missing even the easy shit I am saying.

  • Anonymous

    Haha, the Literaty of Academe. I get it, and thanks. You either reside in a plan above or below what I am saying because clearly you are missing even the easy shit I am saying.

  • Anonymous

    Haha, the Literaty of Academe. I get it, and thanks. You either reside in a plan above or below what I am saying because clearly you are missing even the easy shit I am saying.

  • Anonymous

    Hi Jaimie11,
    I appreciate your POV. As I noted in a post, of course violent revolution is absurd. My solution is to demonstrate with permits, legally, after meeting with authorities to dispel paranoia. It was done successfully in the 60s.

    You described the public needing to engage in “unceasing mental effort.” What a task! Even when people see “the ugly truths,” few vote wisely, and many wouldn’t agree on what truths are ugly. How many voters supported torture because they thought it made us safe?

    Taking back institutions one-by-one is IMO the height of ennui. How, as you suggested, do you “take them back”? Which ones would EVER willingly change?

    In my experience in CA, no deaths occurred from marches and demonstrations. Rarely someone did get knocked around by the fuzz and occasionally a rogue cop showed up. Sorry to say, that’s part of the risk of going against the Establishment. It’s unrelated to the inhuman risk soldiers in Iraq and Afghan take. We have to step up to try to make change happen.

    Happy Sunday to you!

  • Anonymous

    Hi Jaimie11,
    I appreciate your POV. As I noted in a post, of course violent revolution is absurd. My solution is to demonstrate with permits, legally, after meeting with authorities to dispel paranoia. It was done successfully in the 60s.

    You described the public needing to engage in “unceasing mental effort.” What a task! Even when people see “the ugly truths,” few vote wisely, and many wouldn’t agree on what truths are ugly. How many voters supported torture because they thought it made us safe?

    Taking back institutions one-by-one is IMO the height of ennui. How, as you suggested, do you “take them back”? Which ones would EVER willingly change?

    In my experience in CA, no deaths occurred from marches and demonstrations. Rarely someone did get knocked around by the fuzz and occasionally a rogue cop showed up. Sorry to say, that’s part of the risk of going against the Establishment. It’s unrelated to the inhuman risk soldiers in Iraq and Afghan take. We have to step up to try to make change happen.

    Happy Sunday to you!

  • Anonymous

    Hi Jaimie11,
    I appreciate your POV. As I noted in a post, of course violent revolution is absurd. My solution is to demonstrate with permits, legally, after meeting with authorities to dispel paranoia. It was done successfully in the 60s.

    You described the public needing to engage in “unceasing mental effort.” What a task! Even when people see “the ugly truths,” few vote wisely, and many wouldn’t agree on what truths are ugly. How many voters supported torture because they thought it made us safe?

    Taking back institutions one-by-one is IMO the height of ennui. How, as you suggested, do you “take them back”? Which ones would EVER willingly change?

    In my experience in CA, no deaths occurred from marches and demonstrations. Rarely someone did get knocked around by the fuzz and occasionally a rogue cop showed up. Sorry to say, that’s part of the risk of going against the Establishment. It’s unrelated to the inhuman risk soldiers in Iraq and Afghan take. We have to step up to try to make change happen.

    Happy Sunday to you!

  • Anonymous

    Hi Jaimie11,
    I appreciate your POV. As I noted in a post, of course violent revolution is absurd. My solution is to demonstrate with permits, legally, after meeting with authorities to dispel paranoia. It was done successfully in the 60s.

    You described the public needing to engage in “unceasing mental effort.” What a task! Even when people see “the ugly truths,” few vote wisely, and many wouldn’t agree on what truths are ugly. How many voters supported torture because they thought it made us safe?

    Taking back institutions one-by-one is IMO the height of ennui. How, as you suggested, do you “take them back”? Which ones would EVER willingly change?

    In my experience in CA, no deaths occurred from marches and demonstrations. Rarely someone did get knocked around by the fuzz and occasionally a rogue cop showed up. Sorry to say, that’s part of the risk of going against the Establishment. It’s unrelated to the inhuman risk soldiers in Iraq and Afghan take. We have to step up to try to make change happen.

    Happy Sunday to you!

  • Anonymous

    Hi Jaimie11,
    I appreciate your POV. As I noted in a post, of course violent revolution is absurd. My solution is to demonstrate with permits, legally, after meeting with authorities to dispel paranoia. It was done successfully in the 60s.

    You described the public needing to engage in “unceasing mental effort.” What a task! Even when people see “the ugly truths,” few vote wisely, and many wouldn’t agree on what truths are ugly. How many voters supported torture because they thought it made us safe?

    Taking back institutions one-by-one is IMO the height of ennui. How, as you suggested, do you “take them back”? Which ones would EVER willingly change?

    In my experience in CA, no deaths occurred from marches and demonstrations. Rarely someone did get knocked around by the fuzz and occasionally a rogue cop showed up. Sorry to say, that’s part of the risk of going against the Establishment. It’s unrelated to the inhuman risk soldiers in Iraq and Afghan take. We have to step up to try to make change happen.

    Happy Sunday to you!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Kessler/1847633349 John Kessler

    No, but NBC Evening News did a nice piece on kids Christmas letters to santa, and a few weeks ago they dedicated almost an entire 30 minutes of the evening news to coverage of the upcoming marriage of Prince William. The mainstream news media always has time for fluff but misses the stuff that we all need to know.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Kessler/1847633349 John Kessler

    No, but NBC Evening News did a nice piece on kids Christmas letters to santa, and a few weeks ago they dedicated almost an entire 30 minutes of the evening news to coverage of the upcoming marriage of Prince William. The mainstream news media always has time for fluff but misses the stuff that we all need to know.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Kessler/1847633349 John Kessler

    No, but NBC Evening News did a nice piece on kids Christmas letters to santa, and a few weeks ago they dedicated almost an entire 30 minutes of the evening news to coverage of the upcoming marriage of Prince William. The mainstream news media always has time for fluff but misses the stuff that we all need to know.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Kessler/1847633349 John Kessler

    No, but NBC Evening News did a nice piece on kids Christmas letters to santa, and a few weeks ago they dedicated almost an entire 30 minutes of the evening news to coverage of the upcoming marriage of Prince William. The mainstream news media always has time for fluff but misses the stuff that we all need to know.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Kessler/1847633349 John Kessler

    What is a Million a Billion and a Trillion Dollars

    A contributor to Midwest News asked two bank tellers to measure the height of a tightly compressed stack of 1000 one dollar bills. The stack was 4.75” high. Based on this we can make the following statements.

    • $1 Million dollars would make a stack of dollar bills 395.8 feet high.
    • $1 Billion dollars would make a stack 75 miles high.
    • $1 Trillion dollars would make a stack 75,000 miles high.

    Back when the US debt was about 9 trillion dollars I computed the stack of dollar bills representing that debt would reach into space about 2.8 times the distance to the moon.

    During the Bush years, when I last looked at this, the stack of dollar bills representing our debt was growing by 11 miles per day. This growth is the “deficit”.

    When you hear someone say “the deficit has been reduced”, understand that they are only saying the stack is growing at a slower rate.

    Of course this debt should be paid back at some point. When you hear politicians talking about cutting taxes, they are actually saying they want to pass this debt burden onto future generations. Wouldn’t it be neat if all of us could arrange to have our credit card bills paid by our kids and grand kids?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Kessler/1847633349 John Kessler

    What is a Million a Billion and a Trillion Dollars

    A contributor to Midwest News asked two bank tellers to measure the height of a tightly compressed stack of 1000 one dollar bills. The stack was 4.75” high. Based on this we can make the following statements.

    • $1 Million dollars would make a stack of dollar bills 395.8 feet high.
    • $1 Billion dollars would make a stack 75 miles high.
    • $1 Trillion dollars would make a stack 75,000 miles high.

    Back when the US debt was about 9 trillion dollars I computed the stack of dollar bills representing that debt would reach into space about 2.8 times the distance to the moon.

    During the Bush years, when I last looked at this, the stack of dollar bills representing our debt was growing by 11 miles per day. This growth is the “deficit”.

    When you hear someone say “the deficit has been reduced”, understand that they are only saying the stack is growing at a slower rate.

    Of course this debt should be paid back at some point. When you hear politicians talking about cutting taxes, they are actually saying they want to pass this debt burden onto future generations. Wouldn’t it be neat if all of us could arrange to have our credit card bills paid by our kids and grand kids?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Kessler/1847633349 John Kessler

    What is a Million a Billion and a Trillion Dollars

    A contributor to Midwest News asked two bank tellers to measure the height of a tightly compressed stack of 1000 one dollar bills. The stack was 4.75” high. Based on this we can make the following statements.

    • $1 Million dollars would make a stack of dollar bills 395.8 feet high.
    • $1 Billion dollars would make a stack 75 miles high.
    • $1 Trillion dollars would make a stack 75,000 miles high.

    Back when the US debt was about 9 trillion dollars I computed the stack of dollar bills representing that debt would reach into space about 2.8 times the distance to the moon.

    During the Bush years, when I last looked at this, the stack of dollar bills representing our debt was growing by 11 miles per day. This growth is the “deficit”.

    When you hear someone say “the deficit has been reduced”, understand that they are only saying the stack is growing at a slower rate.

    Of course this debt should be paid back at some point. When you hear politicians talking about cutting taxes, they are actually saying they want to pass this debt burden onto future generations. Wouldn’t it be neat if all of us could arrange to have our credit card bills paid by our kids and grand kids?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Kessler/1847633349 John Kessler

    What is a Million a Billion and a Trillion Dollars

    A contributor to Midwest News asked two bank tellers to measure the height of a tightly compressed stack of 1000 one dollar bills. The stack was 4.75” high. Based on this we can make the following statements.

    • $1 Million dollars would make a stack of dollar bills 395.8 feet high.
    • $1 Billion dollars would make a stack 75 miles high.
    • $1 Trillion dollars would make a stack 75,000 miles high.

    Back when the US debt was about 9 trillion dollars I computed the stack of dollar bills representing that debt would reach into space about 2.8 times the distance to the moon.

    During the Bush years, when I last looked at this, the stack of dollar bills representing our debt was growing by 11 miles per day. This growth is the “deficit”.

    When you hear someone say “the deficit has been reduced”, understand that they are only saying the stack is growing at a slower rate.

    Of course this debt should be paid back at some point. When you hear politicians talking about cutting taxes, they are actually saying they want to pass this debt burden onto future generations. Wouldn’t it be neat if all of us could arrange to have our credit card bills paid by our kids and grand kids?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Kessler/1847633349 John Kessler

    All I can say is I’m very glad to be a senior citizen. I hope to be gone before it all goes to hell. I feel really bad for the young folks however. Every time I see someone bringing a new child into the world I wonder if the parents have any idea what kind of life that child will be having when he or she becomes an adult.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Kessler/1847633349 John Kessler

    All I can say is I’m very glad to be a senior citizen. I hope to be gone before it all goes to hell. I feel really bad for the young folks however. Every time I see someone bringing a new child into the world I wonder if the parents have any idea what kind of life that child will be having when he or she becomes an adult.

  • http://SALON WHITE DRAGON

    PUBLIC AIRWAYS NEVER DID BELONG TO THE PEOPLE. FROM THE START OF COMMERCIAL RADIO TO THE INTERNET, THE FINE HAND OF BUSINESS AND GOVERNMENT HAVE NEVER FAILED TO MOVE US IN THE ‘RIGHT’ DIRECTION.
    A TIGER IN THE ZOO SEES THE BARS ON HIS CAGE AND THINKS HE IS FREE! HE FORGETS HE IS INSIDE!

  • http://SALON WHITE DRAGON

    PUBLIC AIRWAYS NEVER DID BELONG TO THE PEOPLE. FROM THE START OF COMMERCIAL RADIO TO THE INTERNET, THE FINE HAND OF BUSINESS AND GOVERNMENT HAVE NEVER FAILED TO MOVE US IN THE ‘RIGHT’ DIRECTION.
    A TIGER IN THE ZOO SEES THE BARS ON HIS CAGE AND THINKS HE IS FREE! HE FORGETS HE IS INSIDE!

  • http://SALON WHITE DRAGON

    PUBLIC AIRWAYS NEVER DID BELONG TO THE PEOPLE. FROM THE START OF COMMERCIAL RADIO TO THE INTERNET, THE FINE HAND OF BUSINESS AND GOVERNMENT HAVE NEVER FAILED TO MOVE US IN THE ‘RIGHT’ DIRECTION.
    A TIGER IN THE ZOO SEES THE BARS ON HIS CAGE AND THINKS HE IS FREE! HE FORGETS HE IS INSIDE!

  • http://SALON WHITE DRAGON

    PUBLIC AIRWAYS NEVER DID BELONG TO THE PEOPLE. FROM THE START OF COMMERCIAL RADIO TO THE INTERNET, THE FINE HAND OF BUSINESS AND GOVERNMENT HAVE NEVER FAILED TO MOVE US IN THE ‘RIGHT’ DIRECTION.
    A TIGER IN THE ZOO SEES THE BARS ON HIS CAGE AND THINKS HE IS FREE! HE FORGETS HE IS INSIDE!

  • Anonymous

    OH BS! They were call THE FREE AIRWAVES!
    Now many Americans can’t watch TV. I can’t afford cable and only have 3 channels that work.
    Welcome to the U.S. the new Third World Country.

  • Anonymous

    OH BS! They were call THE FREE AIRWAVES!
    Now many Americans can’t watch TV. I can’t afford cable and only have 3 channels that work.
    Welcome to the U.S. the new Third World Country.

  • Anonymous

    OH BS! They were call THE FREE AIRWAVES!
    Now many Americans can’t watch TV. I can’t afford cable and only have 3 channels that work.
    Welcome to the U.S. the new Third World Country.

  • Anonymous

    OH BS! They were call THE FREE AIRWAVES!
    Now many Americans can’t watch TV. I can’t afford cable and only have 3 channels that work.
    Welcome to the U.S. the new Third World Country.

  • Anonymous

    You hit the nail on the head! But some people suggest that Ronald Reagan did the start of the damage. Even gave his rich friends cheap labor with the amnesty of illegal aliens.
    And they can’t get enough of more amnesties.

    Republicans suck even more than the democrats.

  • Anonymous

    You hit the nail on the head! But some people suggest that Ronald Reagan did the start of the damage. Even gave his rich friends cheap labor with the amnesty of illegal aliens.
    And they can’t get enough of more amnesties.

    Republicans suck even more than the democrats.

  • Anonymous

    You hit the nail on the head! But some people suggest that Ronald Reagan did the start of the damage. Even gave his rich friends cheap labor with the amnesty of illegal aliens.
    And they can’t get enough of more amnesties.

    Republicans suck even more than the democrats.

  • Anonymous

    You hit the nail on the head! But some people suggest that Ronald Reagan did the start of the damage. Even gave his rich friends cheap labor with the amnesty of illegal aliens.
    And they can’t get enough of more amnesties.

    Republicans suck even more than the democrats.

  • Anonymous

    You hit the nail on the head! But some people suggest that Ronald Reagan did the start of the damage. Even gave his rich friends cheap labor with the amnesty of illegal aliens.
    And they can’t get enough of more amnesties.

    Republicans suck even more than the democrats.

  • Anonymous

    You hit the nail on the head! But some people suggest that Ronald Reagan did the start of the damage. Even gave his rich friends cheap labor with the amnesty of illegal aliens.
    And they can’t get enough of more amnesties.

    Republicans suck even more than the democrats.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J2BKVG44GLNRGIAYKD7UO4O27E Arthur Young

    OY VEY ZMIR

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    OY VEY ZMIR

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  • Anonymous

    Well our 200 years is up!

  • Anonymous

    Well our 200 years is up!

  • Anonymous

    Well our 200 years is up!

  • Anonymous

    Well our 200 years is up!

  • Anonymous

    Well our 200 years is up!

  • Anonymous

    He and his “have more” buddies made enough money off of the war. You know
    the Military Munitions Complex.

  • Anonymous

    He and his “have more” buddies made enough money off of the war. You know
    the Military Munitions Complex.

  • Anonymous

    He and his “have more” buddies made enough money off of the war. You know
    the Military Munitions Complex.

  • Anonymous

    You are probably right!
    But I’m female and I helped dig the foundation (deep) for our
    house. And my husband forgot to place insulation on the foundation for the bottom floor when he built the house and I had to crawl under the house and place the sticky insulation on my back using my hands and feet to stick the insulation on! It was hard work but I managed to do it.
    Hard work is good for us! As long as it doesn’t kill us!

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  • Anonymous

    Hedges’ activities are courageous in their own right, but they miss the elephant in the room. The ongoing wars and the U.S. economic meltdown find their immediate roots in the 9/11 false flag. As countless watchdogs let Bush and his accomplices get away with a sloppy cover-up of the controlled demolitions of the twin towers and of 2,000+ people, they set the stage for them to launch their nefarious agenda: not only war and economic meltdown, but also clampdown on individual rights, intrusive security measures, “shadow” government directed by unknown and unelected individuals, cultivated fear, etc.

    Conversely, the wars and the economic disasters will end when a couple of these watchdogs start doing their job and recognize 9/11 for what it was. The upper crust of the U.S. government will resign in disgrace and their successors will be motivated, for a change, to serve the public. The trillion dollar question is which watchdog shall bark first.

    Love,

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J2BKVG44GLNRGIAYKD7UO4O27E Arthur Young

    Truly a shame that we must dicker on who is the true believer and who is the righteous, but this argument has been an ongoing one for thousands of years. I am not a Christian but can appreciate and admire a Rabbi who was a threat to 2 corrupt cultures..The Roman and the Jewish hierarchy. But who among us is a Jesus, a Prophet, a Saint ? On the positive you have religious charity and cohesion of the Community. on the other you have bigotry, distrust, murder, not to mention twisting theology to your idea of the betterment of mankind. Given the histories of most organized religions…I would rather acknowledge the good than sanctify man’s total abuse of it to justify slavery, Israeli policies, Wars, or the continual slandering of anyone’s deep held faith.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J2BKVG44GLNRGIAYKD7UO4O27E Arthur Young

    Truly a shame that we must dicker on who is the true believer and who is the righteous, but this argument has been an ongoing one for thousands of years. I am not a Christian but can appreciate and admire a Rabbi who was a threat to 2 corrupt cultures..The Roman and the Jewish hierarchy. But who among us is a Jesus, a Prophet, a Saint ? On the positive you have religious charity and cohesion of the Community. on the other you have bigotry, distrust, murder, not to mention twisting theology to your idea of the betterment of mankind. Given the histories of most organized religions…I would rather acknowledge the good than sanctify man’s total abuse of it to justify slavery, Israeli policies, Wars, or the continual slandering of anyone’s deep held faith.

  • Anonymous

    I would submit that we are less safe because we are bombing innocent civilians, and
    supporting dictatorships for the predatory transnational corporations, that own our Government.

  • Anonymous

    I would submit that we are less safe because we are bombing innocent civilians, and
    supporting dictatorships for the predatory transnational corporations, that own our Government.

  • Benway for the Nova Police

    Another parallel with the end of the Western Roman Empire.

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  • Benway for the Nova Police

    Except there’s nothing “neo” about it. More like “archaeofeudalism.” The good news is, these empires always come to an end. The bad news is, it often takes a global catastrophe. The Romans may have lost control of the empire in 476, but it was the 4-hour days that began in 536 and lasted into the 540s that brought on famine, cannibalism, and plague and sounded the death knell of civilization. The Mayans may have been a little bit off, but 2013 could finally break the camel’s back.

  • Benway for the Nova Police

    Except there’s nothing “neo” about it. More like “archaeofeudalism.” The good news is, these empires always come to an end. The bad news is, it often takes a global catastrophe. The Romans may have lost control of the empire in 476, but it was the 4-hour days that began in 536 and lasted into the 540s that brought on famine, cannibalism, and plague and sounded the death knell of civilization. The Mayans may have been a little bit off, but 2013 could finally break the camel’s back.

  • Anonymous

    You wrote that 75% of the population is in “FOX nation” or you could say in the area of “Fox news consciousness” (as awful as that sounds, and I know they aren’t all zombies living in myth but it’s a part of the problem); that’s why raising consciousness, in both senses, INformational (counter information, education), and TRANSformational (inner growth in personal consciousness and outer change in linear greedy capitalism) is so important.

    There seems to be only about 25% of us here in this country-in-decline who are at the level of caring and able to envision the shifts we need to get to interdependent caring sustainability beyond ego and power “games.” (and maybe only a portion of the 25% can see that, yet.)

    I know some will see this as too “new agey,” and maybe it is pie-in-the-sky, but I think it has to be a part of the “revolution/speed-up-by-man evolution” It’s beginning to seem a bit late to wait for “evolution to catch up” with the reactionary old linear-capitalist, carbon-based industrial, hyperindividualistic Ayn Rand consciousness gang (the c.p.) amassing wealth and power, and using the fake ‘war-on-terror’ meme to construct a neo-feudal (Hedges was right) “National Security State” (in progress, alarmingly – and let those alarms go off to the people who need to wake from their fear of terrorism con/slumber).

  • Anonymous

    You wrote that 75% of the population is in “FOX nation” or you could say in the area of “Fox news consciousness” (as awful as that sounds, and I know they aren’t all zombies living in myth but it’s a part of the problem); that’s why raising consciousness, in both senses, INformational (counter information, education), and TRANSformational (inner growth in personal consciousness and outer change in linear greedy capitalism) is so important.

    There seems to be only about 25% of us here in this country-in-decline who are at the level of caring and able to envision the shifts we need to get to interdependent caring sustainability beyond ego and power “games.” (and maybe only a portion of the 25% can see that, yet.)

    I know some will see this as too “new agey,” and maybe it is pie-in-the-sky, but I think it has to be a part of the “revolution/speed-up-by-man evolution” It’s beginning to seem a bit late to wait for “evolution to catch up” with the reactionary old linear-capitalist, carbon-based industrial, hyperindividualistic Ayn Rand consciousness gang (the c.p.) amassing wealth and power, and using the fake ‘war-on-terror’ meme to construct a neo-feudal (Hedges was right) “National Security State” (in progress, alarmingly – and let those alarms go off to the people who need to wake from their fear of terrorism con/slumber).

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    I was not aware just typing one’s views was preaching. It is up to the page visitor to read or not to read.

  • Jaimie11

    Streets, you know that this time the weapons are different – sound canons, microwave weapons. Kent State was a landmark – the National Guard killing children. And now we have thuggish police who think nothing of shooting you dead before you assault them with your goddam eyes.

    I think yes, to get out there and demonstrate is something that must be done, but you know the agent saboteurs make it appear that your peaceful protest is violent and whatever good your protest could do is undermined by the public perception of violence.

    So taking control of our institutions is part of it. You (generic) did not change much for the better in the sixties. That sweeping legislation, while appearing to give some legal protection of their rights, also gave far too much power to the Federal government. And we were so gung ho about getting the legislation we forgot to read the fine print and gave up too much in the process.

    Keep an eye on Ron Paul who has been working to expose the criminality of the Federal Reserve. Actually, I think if we could get back control of our money system that single act could change everything.

    If you haven’t before check out the Money as Debt videos on this page – 5 short ones. Let me know what you think.

    http://www.whazdat.nl/index.php?portal

  • Anonymous

    i date the economic and political and military decline of the US to have begin on april 30, 1975, when the last helicopter lifted off the roof of the US embassy in Saigon.
    that was the beginning of the end.
    of course with all large and powerful Empires, it is a relatively slow motion process, though a major economic crisis within these next few years, which seems all but certain, would deal a more definitive blow.

  • Anonymous

    i date the economic and political and military decline of the US to have begin on april 30, 1975, when the last helicopter lifted off the roof of the US embassy in Saigon.
    that was the beginning of the end.
    of course with all large and powerful Empires, it is a relatively slow motion process, though a major economic crisis within these next few years, which seems all but certain, would deal a more definitive blow.

  • Anonymous

    i date the economic and political and military decline of the US to have begin on april 30, 1975, when the last helicopter lifted off the roof of the US embassy in Saigon.
    that was the beginning of the end.
    of course with all large and powerful Empires, it is a relatively slow motion process, though a major economic crisis within these next few years, which seems all but certain, would deal a more definitive blow.

  • hourglass1

    sad but true … you are either a consumer or you are persona non grata in the new service entertainment / sports / munitions / incarceration / financial system … shopping and idol/dancing should keep you occupied, dull and happy citizen … and with two working adults earning ever less money, no one’s raising the next generation to be anything other than members of the this selfish, parasitic society model either …

    oops, i should read more before posting – i think Aleph3777 said it nicely too

  • hourglass1

    sad but true … you are either a consumer or you are persona non grata in the new service entertainment / sports / munitions / incarceration / financial system … shopping and idol/dancing should keep you occupied, dull and happy citizen … and with two working adults earning ever less money, no one’s raising the next generation to be anything other than members of the this selfish, parasitic society model either …

    oops, i should read more before posting – i think Aleph3777 said it nicely too

  • hourglass1

    sad but true … you are either a consumer or you are persona non grata in the new service entertainment / sports / munitions / incarceration / financial system … shopping and idol/dancing should keep you occupied, dull and happy citizen … and with two working adults earning ever less money, no one’s raising the next generation to be anything other than members of the this selfish, parasitic society model either …

    oops, i should read more before posting – i think Aleph3777 said it nicely too

  • hourglass1

    wow, quite dizzying … well illustrated … i think it’s time to drop “middle class” from the lexicon and switch to “working class” since only the super rich and inheritance class reap the benefits of the american government …

  • Anonymous

    2011 will be the tipping point for America.

    I go back to what FDR faced in 1933 after being sworn-in as president. The conservative-packed U.S. Supreme Court sought to undo his New Deal initiatives, FDR and Democratic Party initiatives meant to stabilize the banking industry while also putting more “chickens in every pot” of American citizens, initiatives that kept bank deposits away from investment gamblers, initiatives that drove down unemployment by pumping public money into the pockets of people which was spent in the private sector, thus stimulating the American economy from the bottom up, at least for the next four years, until 1937 when President Roosevelt listened to his conservative economic advisers who pushed for “austerity,” balancing the budget and cutting back on government assistance.

    President Obama faces a similar situation in 2011 to that which FDR encountered in 1933, except Obama not only has a Republican-packed “Citizens United” U.S. Supreme Court against him, but also will have a Republican-controlled House of Representatives working against him and against any Democratic Party “chickens in every pot” initiative, a Republican House calling for drastic cuts in government programs and services, calling for austerity, while blocking or ending any government programs that don’t directly benefit the wealthiest, IOW, the Herbert Hoover years all over again.

    The result?

    Rising unemployment and an increase in poverty levels, with a mounting death toll among Republicans, Democrats and Independents who aren’t among the wealthiest. And Faux News, among the wealthiest of wealthiest Republicans, will spin it 24/7 that it’s all the Democrat’s fault or President Obama’s fault, with nary a disparaging word ever uttered about the budget-cutting throat-slashing hard-core conservative policies of the Republican-controlled House of Representatives. And all the viewers of Faux News will nod their heads in agreement, even as they maybe lose their own job or watch members of their own family die due to further economic downsizing/outsourcing and severe government program cutbacks, all done so the wealthy can become even more wealthy.

    And anyone daring to disagree, or rise-up in protest, will be faced with the latest “crowd control” technology battle-tested on the killing fields of Iraq and Afghanistan, cementing the corporate/the conservative/the wealthiest take-over of the United States, destroying America in the process, destroying the future of our nation’s children, including the children of those who did this to our democracy.

  • Anonymous

    Stretch whatever you wish.

  • dk504

    This is the 3rd different article I’ve read in a week by respected economists; journalists & traders.
    I want to run away to the woods with an RV and a hunting rifle, is that so wrong?

  • William Ripskull

    Typical liberal purveyor of the welfare state. The evil corporation are the problem. The benevolent government is the savior. Two quotes by two great westerners come to mind. The first is Ronald Reagan: “Government is not the solution to our problems. Government is the problem”. And Winston Churchill: “Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.”

  • William Ripskull

    Typical liberal purveyor of the welfare state. The evil corporation are the problem. The benevolent government is the savior. Two quotes by two great westerners come to mind. The first is Ronald Reagan: “Government is not the solution to our problems. Government is the problem”. And Winston Churchill: “Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.”

  • Anonymous

    The Soviet Union did not fall because of Afghanistan. This guy has a vivid imagination.

  • Anonymous

    The Soviet Union did not fall because of Afghanistan. This guy has a vivid imagination.

  • Anonymous

    “The trillion dollar question is which watchdog shall bark first.”
    How could they bark soon enough? You hand your big money to a “freshman” at once. Of course your money will be sucked quickly away without any notification. No watchdog can catch up fast enough with that scenario.

  • Anonymous

    “The trillion dollar question is which watchdog shall bark first.”
    How could they bark soon enough? You hand your big money to a “freshman” at once. Of course your money will be sucked quickly away without any notification. No watchdog can catch up fast enough with that scenario.

  • Anonymous

    “The trillion dollar question is which watchdog shall bark first.”
    How could they bark soon enough? You hand you big money to a “little kid” at once. Of course your money will be sucked quickly away without the little kid and the watchdogs noticfication.

  • Anonymous

    “The trillion dollar question is which watchdog shall bark first.”
    How could they bark soon enough? You hand you big money to a “little kid” at once. Of course your money will be sucked quickly away without the little kid and the watchdogs noticfication.

  • Anonymous

    The trillion dollar question is which watchdog shall bark first.”
    How could they bark soon enough? You handed out you big money to a “freshman” at once. Of course your money will be sucked quickly away without noticfication. No watchdogs can work quick enough with this scenario.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry, some technical problem with my own account!

  • XYZ123

    “Pakistan, instead of aiding the U.S. in destroying the insurgents and militant Taliban, is harboring them inside its own borders. Pakistan still trains terrorists to kill Americans in the madrassas of Islamabad and Karachi.”

    Actually, if you are going to be perfectly honest with yourself….they are not terrorists, they are resistance fighters and their activities are perfectly legitimate. The US is the occupying power….what do you expect the locals to do? Wave the American flag and welcome foreign soldiers with open arms? Thats not going to happen no matter how much the NYT and Washington Post try to make you believe otherwise.
    And why would you expect any better from Pakistan? Every American talks about the billions given to this country, but the fact is that most of that money was reimbursement for the costs incurred during this war that AMERICA INSISTED ON PAYING FOR. America demanded this war and continuously demands that the war be expanded to each and every corner of these two countries. At the same time, the US goes ahead and threatens both countries and their governments and treats them like the enemy. So in the face of all this…you expect what? more loyalty? Or should the allies treat you as you treat them? With complete dishonesty….or pragmatism as its called in modern politics? Its just stupid to think that you will break all the rules and everybody else will follow them to a T. Its not just Pakistan, but also Afghanistan and probably even Iran and Russia that are involved in helping the other side beat the US…..you guys did it too….why wouldn’t others do the same to you? Bottom line…….nobody is listening when you cry wolf…in fact, they’re hoping its actually a wolf so you’ll (America) shut up once and for all.
    There is no way on earth that the US could possibly win this war….you can add the US to Britain and the USSR as the list of empires that met their end here in the Karakoram mountains of Pakistan and Afghanistan.

  • Anonymous

    So the obvious has finally started to become impossible to ignore, as I have stated over and over that it would…

    So, in that tradition, I will fill you all in at what so many of you obviously miss…

    The collapse of our empire will end our planetary warmongering. The drone attacks will stop, troops will be brought home (or left stranded if the collapse is sudden enough..), our navy will drastically shrink ending our easy power projection, as will our air force.. The drastic reductions will be billed as “movements toward efficiency and modernization”, truth is the only “movements” going on will be the death-crap our empire is taking during the final death-spasms..

    So, defense spending cuts are coming no matter what… Good riddance to the death machine.

    Social security is collapsing, as is all the other “chicken in every pot” socialist initiatives that idiot FDR foisted upon us.. Forced wealth distribution has been and always will be ROBBERY, and people will always find ways to deal with robbers, peaceful and otherwise.

    We could have unwound this at a reasonable pace, immediately and drastically slashed the defense budget, took the savings and used them for infrastructure repair and advancement, as well as carefully weaning our population off the government cheese addiction, educating them for a more productive and self-reliant future… No, you had that choice and laughed him of the stage and shut him out out of the debates in 2008…

    Now you will endure the consequences of willful ignorance:

    First, The aforementioned military collapse, the powers that be will hold the military up as long as possible, for they are all that stand between them and the angry mobs that intend to take them to the nearest lamp posts.

    SO.. The FIRST stuff that will get drastically slashed when the economic hammer comes down (when people finally realize that the “impossible” is now reality, that default is inevitable.), will be the “social safety net”. Hospitals will shut down in droves, welfare checks stop coming, granny will have to pay for her own oxygen, millions will lose access to medications. That’s right, you all will have to go cold turkey and figure out how to survive, more than a few of you will be priced out of survival.. You will get plenty of warning, students protesting impossibly high tuition combined with severe reductions in student aid and loan availability, skyrocketing hyperinflation, huge public worker lay offs and cut backs…

    Then, some of you will scream for more socialism, but you who do are too stupid to see that there is nothing left to give out, no magic hat that springs forth with government cheese eternal… You will attempt to take from those that have, you will instead induce capital flight as well as passive and violent resistance… Those who produce will join with others who produce, and work together to resist and neutralize you takers.

    The country will fracture, breaking along every line you can conceive, but mostly ideological lines. foreign influence will be at a minimum, as they will actually have larger problems than us. China will implode, right after it violently expands in asia, Russia will hold as long as Putin is alive, and he looks pretty healthy. Europe will devolve into the tribal mess it always was. The developing countries will be knocked back severely, war will be everywhere and mostly internal.

    World war 3 is not completely off the table. If WW3 happens, we will be extinct when it ends. I think WW3 has less than a 50% chance of happening, but never underestimate the hateful desperation of our “leaders” if they cannot maintain their privileged state.

    So there it is, the cliff notes of the next 40 years of the 21st century.. Most of you reading this will be compost by 2020. All of you will lose more than you can bear to lose. All of us are to blame, as much for how we lived as well as what we ignored. I’m just as guilty as you, I am no better than anybody else on this, I too may not live to see 2020, and if I do, I probably won’t want to live to see 2021.

    These are the wages of willful ignorance.

    Reality will no longer be ignored.

    Got Republic?

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    If you believe in the Rapture, you believe just before all hell breaks loose on earth, the good Christians will physically ascend into Heaven.

    It is the work of the True believer to do all in their power to prevent all hell from breaking out on earth so if you think you will be removed, there is no incentive to do what is necessary to prevent Armageddon. As Armageddon appears on the horizon, the Rapture believing Christians are almost salivating in excitement seeing it on the way.

    And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
    For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
    Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watches, and keeps his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
    And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
    Revelation 16

    This tells me Armageddon is not the will of God, but a deception of devils and the false prophet active in the three ritual, traditional religions of Judaism, Christianity and Islam.

    I believe in Christ, but not in the Rapture. There is more imaginative reading into the scriptures used to support the Rapture than anything explicit.

    What is explicit are these words of Christ,

    [15] I pray not that you should take them out of the world, but that you should keep them from the evil. John 17

    The notion of a Rapture contradicts those explicit words of Jesus.

  • Anonymous

    You won’t be alone, and when the game runs out, you all will take to eating each other.

    If you have any family of friends that are farmers, I suggest you get REALLY close to them ASAP.

    Otherwise, use that rifle to shorten your suffering.

    I’m not trying to be mean, I’m just letting you know the hard reality of what is descending upon us.

    If you haven’t figured a way through this by now, your chances aren’t good.. Makes friends with a farmer, whatever it takes, your life depends on it.

  • Anonymous

    Let’s concentrate on financial problem for now.
    Usually, once you can not afford to pay for your debt? ….Declare bankruptcy…. the sooner the better. So, I don’t know how the first trillion debt would be dealt with. But the next trillion if is putting on the table to be weighted? Then the practical answer is noway, nohow you can carry it on with your life, your children’s, and the next, next, next generations’. Declare bankruptcy!
    Obama in this case should voluntarily acts like a real President, resign! No more excuse for him to blame on his precedent. 1 trillion should be plenty for a talented to carry his country out of trouble. If he could not, he is not a suitable person for this toughest job. Move it! Let the next one to prove him-/her-self

  • Anonymous

    “The upper crust of the U.S. government will resign in disgrace and their successors will be motivated, for a change, to serve the public”

    That seems to be a cut and paste from my grade school civics class. I don’t think that we are in Kansas anymore Toto. The corruption seems to have infested all levels of the federal government. The criminals are running the government against the citizens. The government is fortifying it’s self from the citizens and when push comes to shove… the government will go all out to protect itself.
    Kind of like the Bonnie and Clyde movie.

  • Anonymous

    Yea…
    That was the language that Reagan used on the public as he was selling off our public assets for the benefit of a few of his friends….
    The guy who was the CEO of Halliburton comes to mind…
    What is his name?
    Dick Cheney… Yea the company that is in charge of the Fusion centers and internment camps. Public assets? Hell… shortly we wont even have any private assets… Oh! that sucking sound as all of our assets get sucked away to the top 2% on the economic ladder.

  • Anonymous

    The financial symptoms we currently see are but a rash-like co-symptom of the underlying diseases the whole system is up against.

    The president doesn’t have the power you seem to think the office has, the power to change the direction of this disaster lies more in the legislative branch.. Even then, they only have the power to soft-land this flaming wreck, not to avert the inevitable.

    Declaring bankruptcy and flat-out defaulting is the soft-landing answer, problem is, the American people would revolt… The policymakers are fully aware of this fact. So, the policymakers are attempting to stave off the inevitable for as long as possible, hoping the tooth fairy, santa clause, aliens or a scientific discovery on the scale of fire or the internet will show up and save all of our idiotic asses.. Seriously, that is the plan.

    The problem is two-fold: Productive capacity and sustainability.

    The only way out of this economic mess is to PRODUCE our way out of it with products both we and the world need… Problem is, every last damned things we silly apes make or do now is rooted back to OIL, more specifically CHEAP OIL… Guess what the world is running out of? The worlds capacity of oil production HAS already peaked, but the pain will be fatal LONG before the decline gets too serious.. See, if oil is hard to get at (see the gulf of mexico and the recent disaster as an example), the price of oil will need to correspondingly rise to deal with the costs of production.. Right now it costs about 85 USD to pull one barrel of light sweet crude out of the ground (also know that no barrel of oil is worth anything until its on the surface.), so if oil drop below 85 USD, the oil producers hemorrhage cash.. If the oil producers cannot make money, they WILL NOT DRILL.. I can already hear you socialist idiots screaming “THEN NATIONALIZE THE OIL PRODUCERS!!!”… HA!! Shows how stupid you collectivists are, it still doesn’t resolve a damned thing, in fact you will accelerate shortages and production collapses.. You see, nobody likes working for free, in fact, they just plain won’t do it..

    Bottom line is this: We stupid apes lit a huge oil fire and called it “progress”, “advancement” and “modern civilization”… And now, that oil fire is threatening to sputter out, casting us back into the darkness.. Only, along with ourselves, monsters like weaponized biological weapons and atomic warheads are coming along for the ride… Good news though, the atomic weapons will only be available for the opening acts of the collapse. After just a few weeks of collapse, all the warheads will be nothing more than radioactive door-stoppers… Thank god for small favors, huh?

    We cannot expect somebody to lead us out of this. We must make our way according to our own abilities and who we choose to work with. In other words, Individualism will be forced upon all of us. Local community will decide if you live or die, you own abilities and weaknesses will decide if you live or die. Better make sure you’re in a community you can deal with, better make sure you can handle your own business.

    We will all find out what we are made of, and what everybody around us is made of. If you survive to the end of this, you will have no doubts about yourself, or anybody you know.. One of the many benefits to come out of this, provided we/you survive.

    Hope you are ready to live some history, most of us will perish in these coming chapters.

    Got Republic.

  • Anonymous

    Clinton should have resisted NAFTA and WTO during his presidency. Corporatist global free trade has fucked this country so bad and. We rushed into these partnerships when our economy was fine enough as it was. Goddamnit

  • Anonymous

    Clinton should have resisted NAFTA and WTO during his presidency. Corporatist global free trade has fucked this country so bad and. We rushed into these partnerships when our economy was fine enough as it was. Goddamnit

  • Anonymous

    Well seen2much everybody has to die sometime.

  • Anonymous

    Well seen2much everybody has to die sometime.

  • Anonymous

    Very thoughtful comment! However, whether you want to defend Obama or vice-versa. How could he let things going down the t…. when he started with such strong support and a huuuugeeee amount of money? What else he need to be successful? US was not the only one who suffer the recession. The whole world, gradually, everyone else came out almost safe and sound, why not US?
    _ Cut the war cost alone, (as he well beware of in his electoral promise) is already one big successful step. See if he knew he can not deliver his promises, don’t make any. If he did not know how hard the job is? He is not ready for the job. You should hold yourself accountable to some degree of your promises in general and as a “President” this must be at exceptional level. That’s why his rivals did not dare to promise as much as he did.
    Right, everyone need to take a piece of responsibility and person like you and me work, pay our tax. The Presidents suppose to spend our tax wisely and if his job performance is below expectation, he need to let other to lead us out of trouble (Leader). You concerning about the fact we are running out of oil. Is it an opportunity to create more jobs with the situation by looking into new sources of energy (again,with the big money he got in hand?) That’s why Presidential job is not a job for an inexperience one because that would be so costly.

  • Anonymous

    Very thoughtful comment! However, whether you want to defend Obama or vice-versa. How could he let things going down the t…. when he started with such strong support and a huuuugeeee amount of money? What else he need to be successful? US was not the only one who suffer the recession. The whole world, gradually, everyone else came out almost safe and sound, why not US?
    _ Cut the war cost alone, (as he well beware of in his electoral promise) is already one big successful step. See if he knew he can not deliver his promises, don’t make any. If he did not know how hard the job is? He is not ready for the job. You should hold yourself accountable to some degree of your promises in general and as a “President” this must be at exceptional level. That’s why his rivals did not dare to promise as much as he did.
    Right, everyone need to take a piece of responsibility and person like you and me work, pay our tax. The Presidents suppose to spend our tax wisely and if his job performance is below expectation, he need to let other to lead us out of trouble (Leader). You concerning about the fact we are running out of oil. Is it an opportunity to create more jobs with the situation by looking into new sources of energy (again,with the big money he got in hand?) That’s why Presidential job is not a job for an inexperience one because that would be so costly.

  • Anonymous

    Very thoughtful comment! However, whether you want to defend Obama or vice-versa. How could he let things going down the t…. when he started with such strong support and a huuuugeeee amount of money? What else he need to be successful? US was not the only one who suffer the recession. The whole world, gradually, everyone else came out almost safe and sound, why not US?
    _ Cut the war cost alone, (as he well beware of in his electoral promise) is already one big successful step. See if he knew he can not deliver his promises, don’t make any. If he did not know how hard the job is? He is not ready for the job. You should hold yourself accountable to some degree of your promises in general and as a “President” this must be at exceptional level. That’s why his rivals did not dare to promise as much as he did.
    Right, everyone need to take a piece of responsibility and person like you and me work, pay our tax. The Presidents suppose to spend our tax wisely and if his job performance is below expectation, he need to let other to lead us out of trouble (Leader). You concerning about the fact we are running out of oil. Is it an opportunity to create more jobs with the situation by looking into new sources of energy (again,with the big money he got in hand?) That’s why Presidential job is not a job for an inexperience one because that would be so costly.

  • Anonymous

    It would be great pleasure admitting ourself togther in one shot to the new world. Just leave the corrupted here. They need to deal with the aftermath.

  • Anonymous

    It would be great pleasure admitting ourself togther in one shot to the new world. Just leave the corrupted here. They need to deal with the aftermath.

  • Anonymous

    It would be great pleasure admitting ourself togther in one shot to the new world. Just leave the corrupted here. They need to deal with the aftermath.

  • Anonymous

    It would be great pleasure admitting ourself togther in one shot to the new world. Just leave the corrupted here. They need to deal with the aftermath.

  • Anonymous

    This time if we can not help Obama to be successful, it would not be just 2. So help Obama to do his job. (If just only Hillary was the winner, no need to worry much about her job.)
    By the way, I think 18 years old is not mature enough for voting in my opinion. People need more time to learn politic to be an acceptable partipationer. ~25 would be better.

  • Anonymous

    This time if we can not help Obama to be successful, it would not be just 2. So help Obama to do his job. (If just only Hillary was the winner, no need to worry much about her job.)
    By the way, I think 18 years old is not mature enough for voting in my opinion. People need more time to learn politic to be an acceptable partipationer. ~25 would be better.

  • Anonymous

    This time if we can not help Obama to be successful, it would not be just 2. So help Obama to do his job. (If just only Hillary was the winner, no need to worry much about her job.)
    By the way, I think 18 years old is not mature enough for voting in my opinion. People need more time to learn politic to be an acceptable partipationer. ~25 would be better.

  • Anonymous

    This time if we can not help Obama to be successful, it would not be just 2. So help Obama to do his job. (If just only Hillary was the winner, no need to worry much about her job.)
    By the way, I think 18 years old is not mature enough for voting in my opinion. People need more time to learn politic to be an acceptable partipationer. ~25 would be better.

  • Anonymous

    This time if we can not help Obama to be successful, it would not be just 2. So help Obama to do his job. (If just only Hillary was the winner, no need to worry much about her job.)
    By the way, I think 18 years old is not mature enough for voting in my opinion. People need more time to learn politic to be an acceptable partipationer. ~25 would be better.

  • Anonymous

    I just came across that episode and watched it today…
    Jesse finds that the Fusion centers are autonomous with zero oversight of the government and that Halliburton provides their services.
    The Feds seem locked, loaded and ready for their self provoked revolution.

  • Anonymous

    I just came across that episode and watched it today…
    Jesse finds that the Fusion centers are autonomous with zero oversight of the government and that Halliburton provides their services.
    The Feds seem locked, loaded and ready for their self provoked revolution.

  • Anonymous

    I just came across that episode and watched it today…
    Jesse finds that the Fusion centers are autonomous with zero oversight of the government and that Halliburton provides their services.
    The Feds seem locked, loaded and ready for their self provoked revolution.

  • Anonymous

    This web sight, two days ago, had a picture of a male TSA agent in an airport feeling over a woman’s breasts.
    I hate to burst your bubble, bucco, but the insane are the ones who are running this asylum.

  • Anonymous

    This web sight, two days ago, had a picture of a male TSA agent in an airport feeling over a woman’s breasts.
    I hate to burst your bubble, bucco, but the insane are the ones who are running this asylum.

  • Anonymous

    This web sight, two days ago, had a picture of a male TSA agent in an airport feeling over a woman’s breasts.
    I hate to burst your bubble, bucco, but the insane are the ones who are running this asylum.

  • Anonymous

    The Infinite Unknown was highlighting a bunch of Jesse episodes yesterday any how here is the one that was referenced:

    http://www.infiniteunknown.net/2010/11/30/jesse-ventura-conspiracy-theory-police-state-and-fema-concentration-camps/

  • Anonymous

    The Infinite Unknown was highlighting a bunch of Jesse episodes yesterday any how here is the one that was referenced:

    http://www.infiniteunknown.net/2010/11/30/jesse-ventura-conspiracy-theory-police-state-and-fema-concentration-camps/

  • Anonymous

    The Infinite Unknown was highlighting a bunch of Jesse episodes yesterday any how here is the one that was referenced:

    http://www.infiniteunknown.net/2010/11/30/jesse-ventura-conspiracy-theory-police-state-and-fema-concentration-camps/

  • Anonymous

    The Infinite Unknown was highlighting a bunch of Jesse episodes yesterday any how here is the one that was referenced:

    http://www.infiniteunknown.net/2010/11/30/jesse-ventura-conspiracy-theory-police-state-and-fema-concentration-camps/

  • http://semensperms.com/2010/12/20/links-for-2010-12-20/ links for 2010-12-20

    [...] US empire could collapse at any time, Pulitzer winner tells Raw Story "We've undergone a corporate coup d'état in slow motion," he said. "Our public education system has been gutted. Our infrastructure is corroding and collapsing. Unless we begin to physically resist, they are going to solidify neo-feudalism in this country." [...]

  • Anonymous

    United We Stand, Divided We Fall! It is time for The People to Stand and be counted. I am with you my brothers and sisters. Liberty or death.

  • http://bruce.maulden.us/2010/12/20/end-of-empire/ Compatible Creatures – War & Politics & Life – End of Empire

    [...] of darkness. Hedges says the US can topple into the dustbin of history at any time. An interview at Raw Story: “We’re losing [the war in Afghanistan] in the same way the Red Army lost it,” he [...]

  • Anonymous

    The mainstream media became a corporatist tool in 1910 to grease the skids for the coming Fed in 1913. The journey to gt to where are today is a long one. I have found instances where Reagan used the same tactics as Andrew Jackson’s VP, John Calhoun (a suspected jesuit). I remember Reagan’s mantra being states rights… same as Calhoun except in Calhoun’s time there was a vigilant mistrust and concern about a Jesuit infiltration of the government. States rights was the battle cry for the Civil War and the Vatican was on the side of a broken Union (fascism loves slavery). Any how Calhoun had sown the seeds for the Civil War under a president that had closed the central bank.

  • Anonymous

    “…all the pillars of the liberal establishment are complicit in this.”

    There you have it, self-righteous liberal douchebags. You’re no daisies.

  • http://stevebeckow.com/2010/12/20/vets-of-recent-wars-protest-outside-white-house-131-arrested/ Vets of Recent Wars Protest Outside White House; 131 Arrested | The 2012 Scenario

    [...] Read an interview with Chris Hedges just after the speech on the RawStory http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/un&#8230; And another Interview on Democracy Now where he discusses his most recent book, “Death of the [...]

  • Anonymous

    And what ‘liberal establishment’ is he talking about? He has a very wild imagination.

  • Anonymous

    Or was it 1981

  • Anonymous

    Reagan is the source.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t forget the Mormons

  • http://twitter.com/MiddleAmericaMS MiddleAmericaMS

    The facts are that the Dems need cash for elections too & that has been made worse by the deregulation of corp election spending by the GOP run SCOTUS.

    As I often say, the Democrats are no saints, they just look like it in comparison.

    Until money is taken out of elections & lobbying is gotten under control it will only get worse.

  • Anonymous

    What a great day. I’m not the only one who sees the writing on the wall.
    Seen2much gets it. For the record, I’m gleefully going into business
    old school, way way way old school. Production without oil based products
    Location doubles as a sort of fort/bunker. Business plan includes TSHTF
    scenario. Cash funded. No debt. Items to be sold are created on site and sold
    within the community. For now, highly prized hand made, soon to be necessities
    not available from manufacturing. Because manufacturing no longer exists
    in America. Soon, American money will no longer buy anything from other
    countries where American manufacturing has gone. Salute, Seen2much.

  • Anonymous

    What a great day. I’m not the only one who sees the writing on the wall.
    Seen2much gets it. For the record, I’m gleefully going into business
    old school, way way way old school. Production without oil based products
    Location doubles as a sort of fort/bunker. Business plan includes TSHTF
    scenario. Cash funded. No debt. Items to be sold are created on site and sold
    within the community. For now, highly prized hand made, soon to be necessities
    not available from manufacturing. Because manufacturing no longer exists
    in America. Soon, American money will no longer buy anything from other
    countries where American manufacturing has gone. Salute, Seen2much.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    I pray for a soft landing and not a hard crash. Society would be f***ed, the rich and the poor, Republicans and Democrats, believers and atheists, black and white, Jew and Gentile, ALL the people. The Truly Faithful in Almighty God will find food in famine, and Spiritual comforts in material confusion.

    The old Bible story of the Writing on the Wall the whole world saw for the 1st Time at the same Time with the financial meltdown/economic Pearl Harbour-tsunami in the Fall of 2008 is being ignored. It is still Business as Usual.

    People are still thinking in terms of money and things when it is a Spiritual war.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    I pray for a soft landing and not a hard crash. Society would be f***ed, the rich and the poor, Republicans and Democrats, believers and atheists, black and white, Jew and Gentile, ALL the people. The Truly Faithful in Almighty God will find food in famine, and Spiritual comforts in material confusion.

    The old Bible story of the Writing on the Wall the whole world saw for the 1st Time at the same Time with the financial meltdown/economic Pearl Harbour-tsunami in the Fall of 2008 is being ignored. It is still Business as Usual.

    People are still thinking in terms of money and things when it is a Spiritual war.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    “Individualism will be forced upon all of us.”

    Extreme Individualism, way out of proportion to any notion of a common good, has created many of the problems we must now confront together or it will fall on all us individuals.

    Should we become more self reliant in the face of an increasingly divided Society? Absolutely!

    The trouble I see for America is most of the people will put their faith in guns.

    If a hard crash happens, I hope everyone is prepared to deal with situations like this for they will arise. It could be a white group.

    http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-267340

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    “Individualism will be forced upon all of us.”

    Extreme Individualism, way out of proportion to any notion of a common good, has created many of the problems we must now confront together or it will fall on all us individuals.

    Should we become more self reliant in the face of an increasingly divided Society? Absolutely!

    The trouble I see for America is most of the people will put their faith in guns.

    If a hard crash happens, I hope everyone is prepared to deal with situations like this for they will arise. It could be a white group.

    http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-267340

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    “Individualism will be forced upon all of us.”

    Extreme Individualism, way out of proportion to any notion of a common good, has created many of the problems we must now confront together or it will fall on all us individuals.

    Should we become more self reliant in the face of an increasingly divided Society? Absolutely!

    The trouble I see for America is most of the people will put their faith in guns.

    If a hard crash happens, I hope everyone is prepared to deal with situations like this for they will arise. It could be a white group.

    http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-267340

  • Anonymous

    America’s empire collapse? The sooner the better. For America and humanity.

  • Anonymous

    America’s empire collapse? The sooner the better. For America and humanity.

  • Anonymous

    America’s empire collapse? The sooner the better. For America and humanity.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Daniel-Brown/690547972 Daniel Brown

    Correction:

    “Hedges was one of the 131 activists were arrested in an act of civil disobedience”

    should be

    “Hedges was one of the 131 activists WHO/WHICH/THAT (take your pick) were arrested in an act of civil disobedience”

    As you can see, I have some grammatical knowledge, but not enough to know which of those words is the proper one to place in. But at least I found the gap!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Daniel-Brown/690547972 Daniel Brown

    Correction:

    “Hedges was one of the 131 activists were arrested in an act of civil disobedience”

    should be

    “Hedges was one of the 131 activists WHO/WHICH/THAT (take your pick) were arrested in an act of civil disobedience”

    As you can see, I have some grammatical knowledge, but not enough to know which of those words is the proper one to place in. But at least I found the gap!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Daniel-Brown/690547972 Daniel Brown

    Correction:

    “Hedges was one of the 131 activists were arrested in an act of civil disobedience”

    should be

    “Hedges was one of the 131 activists WHO/WHICH/THAT (take your pick) were arrested in an act of civil disobedience”

    As you can see, I have some grammatical knowledge, but not enough to know which of those words is the proper one to place in. But at least I found the gap!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KORPQY5FRLCYZ6NPPDCEXUYQPI Rupert Murdoch

    This is the best piece (including both story and video) I have ever seen on Raw Story. Congrats, folks!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KORPQY5FRLCYZ6NPPDCEXUYQPI Rupert Murdoch

    This is the best piece (including both story and video) I have ever seen on Raw Story. Congrats, folks!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KORPQY5FRLCYZ6NPPDCEXUYQPI Rupert Murdoch

    This is the best piece (including both story and video) I have ever seen on Raw Story. Congrats, folks!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AMM6KKHTKNQPYJYOOZDFNQBRLA Yuko's Eyes

    The video of this protest and veterans’ perspectives is incredible.

    Chris Hedges (the guy behind the mic) won the Pulizer Prize in 2002. In 2003, he was given a formal written reprimand by his employer (The New York Times) for speaking out against the war at Rockford College (see video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAWMgYyAtHU). Hedges spent 7 years in the Middle East and months in Iraq. He speaks Arabic.

    On Democracy now, Hedges shared that the liberal class is tolerated by the power elite because it disarms movements that should have stood up and fought back. See video here: http://www.democracynow.org/2010/12/20/chris_hedges_obama_is_a_poster

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AMM6KKHTKNQPYJYOOZDFNQBRLA Yuko's Eyes

    The video of this protest and veterans’ perspectives is incredible.

    Chris Hedges (the guy behind the mic) won the Pulizer Prize in 2002. In 2003, he was given a formal written reprimand by his employer (The New York Times) for speaking out against the war at Rockford College (see video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAWMgYyAtHU). Hedges spent 7 years in the Middle East and months in Iraq. He speaks Arabic.

    On Democracy now, Hedges shared that the liberal class is tolerated by the power elite because it disarms movements that should have stood up and fought back. See video here: http://www.democracynow.org/2010/12/20/chris_hedges_obama_is_a_poster

  • Anonymous

    You voted against him in 1980.

  • Anonymous

    You voted against him in 1980.

  • Anonymous

    “Complicit” just means that they went along with the real criminals, the Conservatives.
    Think before speaking.

  • Anonymous

    “Complicit” just means that they went along with the real criminals, the Conservatives.
    Think before speaking.

  • Anonymous

    I’m definitely not predicting this will happen, but if there is a tactical military debacle in Afghanistan — for example if an outpost gets overrun with major casualties — the remaining political will to fight an unwinnable war halfway around the world is likely to vanish overnight.

  • Anonymous

    I’m definitely not predicting this will happen, but if there is a tactical military debacle in Afghanistan — for example if an outpost gets overrun with major casualties — the remaining political will to fight an unwinnable war halfway around the world is likely to vanish overnight.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=794020220 Jason Vajgrt

    I don’t agree, I think it should be a mental acuity in association with politics that should allow for the right to vote. Tea Partiers need not apply.

    You need to know SOMETHING substantial other than standing in a protest line.

    So while 18 for some people isn’t even close, for others, it’s long overdue.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=794020220 Jason Vajgrt

    I don’t agree, I think it should be a mental acuity in association with politics that should allow for the right to vote. Tea Partiers need not apply.

    You need to know SOMETHING substantial other than standing in a protest line.

    So while 18 for some people isn’t even close, for others, it’s long overdue.

  • Anonymous

    IQ tests for voting, didnt they use similar tactics to exclude the poor and minorities from being able to vote.

    I wonder how such tests would undoubtedly be rigged to only allow the supporters of the corporate cabal to be allowed to vote.

  • Anonymous

    IQ tests for voting, didnt they use similar tactics to exclude the poor and minorities from being able to vote.

    I wonder how such tests would undoubtedly be rigged to only allow the supporters of the corporate cabal to be allowed to vote.

  • Ray Joseph Cormier

    Engaged in this discussion for a few days, I read the article and the comments, but I just watched the video with the theme of Hope. I Hope everyone watches it.

    Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
    And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.
    And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profits me nothing.
    Charity suffers long, and is kind; charity envies not; charity vaunts not itself, is not puffed up,
    Does not behave itself unseemly, seeks not her own, is not easily provoked, thinks no evil;
    Rejoices not in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth;
    Bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
    Charity never fails: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
    For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
    But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
    When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
    For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
    And now abides faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

    1 Corinthians 13

  • 1984

    Reagan was a corporate puppet and Churchill was a fanatical imperialist.

    “I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country.”
    - Thomas Jefferson

    The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it comes strong than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism – ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power.
    Franklin D. Roosevelt

  • 1984

    Reagan was a corporate puppet and Churchill was a fanatical imperialist.

    “I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country.”
    - Thomas Jefferson

    The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it comes strong than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism – ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power.
    Franklin D. Roosevelt

  • 1984

    Reagan was a corporate puppet and Churchill was a fanatical imperialist.

    “I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country.”
    - Thomas Jefferson

    The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it comes strong than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism – ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power.
    Franklin D. Roosevelt

  • 1984

    Reagan was a corporate puppet and Churchill was a fanatical imperialist.

    “I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country.”
    - Thomas Jefferson

    The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it comes strong than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism – ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power.
    Franklin D. Roosevelt

  • Anonymous

    I hope the Netherlands buy us. I would like them as our government.

  • Anonymous

    I hope the Netherlands buy us. I would like them as our government.

  • Anonymous

    I hope the Netherlands buy us. I would like them as our government.

  • Anonymous

    I hope the Netherlands buy us. I would like them as our government.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FSE472YRFWU5OEWM23IQU5KFPA Steven

    In the coming “neo-feudalism”, which fiefdom should a liberal, California IT consultant ally oneself with? As Capt_Dunsil notes, Netherlands would be a far better “master” than China or the Mega-Zaibatsus. I wonder if high, thick walls will become as important as reliable network connectivity?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FSE472YRFWU5OEWM23IQU5KFPA Steven

    In the coming “neo-feudalism”, which fiefdom should a liberal, California IT consultant ally oneself with? As Capt_Dunsil notes, Netherlands would be a far better “master” than China or the Mega-Zaibatsus. I wonder if high, thick walls will become as important as reliable network connectivity?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FSE472YRFWU5OEWM23IQU5KFPA Steven

    In the coming “neo-feudalism”, which fiefdom should a liberal, California IT consultant ally oneself with? As Capt_Dunsil notes, Netherlands would be a far better “master” than China or the Mega-Zaibatsus. I wonder if high, thick walls will become as important as reliable network connectivity?

  • http://mixednews.ru/?p=2930 Лауреат Пулитцеровской премии Крис Хеджес: «Американская империя может рухнуть в любой момент» | MixedNews

    [...] Источник перевод mixednews [...]

  • http://twitter.com/AminCad AminCad

    You don’t get it. In the past the US SPENT the Social Security payroll tax surplus. The US will no longer be able to borrow from Social Security contributions, since benefits have started exceeding contributions. Add to this the Medicare deficit, and the US economy will have to cut the majority of entitlements, leaving retirees stranded (like after the Soviet collapse).

  • http://twitter.com/AminCad AminCad

    Yes very.

  • http://twitter.com/AminCad AminCad

    No, it’s too late for all of that now. The Social Security and Medicare deficit is too large to be paid back. It’s going to lead to suffering as people discover the promises the government made and that they have been relying on, will be broken, and that they have nothing else to fall back on.

  • http://twitter.com/AminCad AminCad

    I don’t believe in forced charity. I don’t believe violence is the answer to helping the poor.

    What’s wrong with having non-govern­mental institutio­ns and private citizens working together to help each other? Why force every one to conform to one plan of action through government programs?

    As if someone does not have compassion for a stranger in need, is the answer to come in with your dogmatism, and make him behave compassionately? What gives you that right?

    Social democracy is morally bankrupt, and eventually, it’s going to financially bankrupt all nations that practice it.

  • http://twitter.com/AminCad AminCad

    So it’s not freedom you seek, it’s security. You want to trade yours and every one else’s freedom, so you can feel secure.

  • http://twitter.com/AminCad AminCad

    You’re a liar.

  • http://twitter.com/AminCad AminCad

    But you don’t want him to be able to refuse to fund Social Security.

    “You can’t have your cake and eat it, too. ”

    Cut the bullshit. YOU want to have your cake and eat it too. You want to give him the choice to opt out of receiving benefits, but not give him the choice to opt out of funding benefits.

  • http://twitter.com/AminCad AminCad

    What if he wants to work with other people?

    He is perfectly ‘free’ to not receive the benefits, but there are pretty extreme restrictions on what he can do if he wants to not contribute.

    Cake and eat it too..

  • http://vinceseconomicblog.wordpress.com/2010/12/21/how-deceit-and-truth-are-feeding-resistance-to-u-s-militarism/ How Deceit and Truth Are Feeding Resistance to U.S. Militarism « Vince's Economic Blog

    [...] and world. The superpower is strong, but weak at the same time. These seem to be the signs of an empire that could collapse at [...]

  • Anonymous

    Wah?!?

    Don’t try to put words into my mouth. And you are stretching both the definition of “security” and the meaning of Ben Franklin’s saying with your comment.

    And to reply to your implication, despite the fact that you lost this debate, is YES, we need to take care of others in our society. Again, we can only control so much. We NEED a societal back-up plan for when the best of planning goes awry. You want to take that away so that YOU can feel more of what YOU consider “free”.

    I consider that selfish.

  • Anonymous

    Wah?!?

    Don’t try to put words into my mouth. And you are stretching both the definition of “security” and the meaning of Ben Franklin’s saying with your comment.

    And to reply to your implication, despite the fact that you lost this debate, is YES, we need to take care of others in our society. Again, we can only control so much. We NEED a societal back-up plan for when the best of planning goes awry. You want to take that away so that YOU can feel more of what YOU consider “free”.

    I consider that selfish.

  • Anonymous

    Wah?!?

    Don’t try to put words into my mouth. And you are stretching both the definition of “security” and the meaning of Ben Franklin’s saying with your comment.

    And to reply to your implication, despite the fact that you lost this debate, is YES, we need to take care of others in our society. Again, we can only control so much. We NEED a societal back-up plan for when the best of planning goes awry. You want to take that away so that YOU can feel more of what YOU consider “free”.

    I consider that selfish.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AATB2CCTZUVB4BCTPAOG7B2ZTU Jaime Neslon

    Why is it that 99% of people from Massachusetts give the rest of us a bad name?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AATB2CCTZUVB4BCTPAOG7B2ZTU Jaime Neslon

    Why is it that 99% of people from Massachusetts give the rest of us a bad name?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AATB2CCTZUVB4BCTPAOG7B2ZTU Jaime Neslon

    Actually, it was John Milton that said the “Heaven/ Hell” quote.

    I blame the hippies from the 60′s that got into govt after baking themselves until the late 70′s. You can’t have someone making important decisions for other people if they’re chemically influenced.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AATB2CCTZUVB4BCTPAOG7B2ZTU Jaime Neslon

    Actually, it was John Milton that said the “Heaven/ Hell” quote.

    I blame the hippies from the 60′s that got into govt after baking themselves until the late 70′s. You can’t have someone making important decisions for other people if they’re chemically influenced.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AATB2CCTZUVB4BCTPAOG7B2ZTU Jaime Neslon

    Actually, it was John Milton that said the “Heaven/ Hell” quote.

    I blame the hippies from the 60′s that got into govt after baking themselves until the late 70′s. You can’t have someone making important decisions for other people if they’re chemically influenced.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AATB2CCTZUVB4BCTPAOG7B2ZTU Jaime Neslon

    Please do not forget to include the likes of Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, and the thankfully out of office, Ted Kennedy. It’s just too bad that he had to die, instead of us voting him out.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AATB2CCTZUVB4BCTPAOG7B2ZTU Jaime Neslon

    Well, that’s a great thing that America can still claim: if you want to leave, then the door is open. We still don’t have to build a fence to keep people IN.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AATB2CCTZUVB4BCTPAOG7B2ZTU Jaime Neslon

    Well, the next question has to be “Who are these 2%?” A list of names and the companies they control would go a long way to getting a grip on where all the capital goes and why government make the decisions they do.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AATB2CCTZUVB4BCTPAOG7B2ZTU Jaime Neslon

    Well, the next question has to be “Who are these 2%?” A list of names and the companies they control would go a long way to getting a grip on where all the capital goes and why government make the decisions they do.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AATB2CCTZUVB4BCTPAOG7B2ZTU Jaime Neslon

    There is no way in hell that the UN would ever consider an embargo on China. A more useless and corrupt organization would be very tough to find. This is the same group that has blatant human rights violators on the human rights commission.

  • Anonymous

    Mark,
    Leo is right you know. I guess the sex tours was what you were looking for and not much else…..

  • Anonymous

    Mark,
    Leo is right you know. I guess the sex tours was what you were looking for and not much else…..

  • Anonymous

    Mark,
    Leo is right you know. I guess the sex tours was what you were looking for and not much else…..

  • Anonymous

    jimbojamesiv,

    I believe you are uninformed. I moved lock, stock and barrel out of the USA in 1999. I first started looking for a country to move to in 1995 and found that Russia was the best place for me. Like Leo Sigh in Thailand says — we got some problems, but nothing like what you guys have in the states. Russia is the same – we got some problems, but nothing like what you guys have in the states. I visited the USA once this year and I am really sorry for you all that remain there.

  • Anonymous

    jimbojamesiv,

    I believe you are uninformed. I moved lock, stock and barrel out of the USA in 1999. I first started looking for a country to move to in 1995 and found that Russia was the best place for me. Like Leo Sigh in Thailand says — we got some problems, but nothing like what you guys have in the states. Russia is the same – we got some problems, but nothing like what you guys have in the states. I visited the USA once this year and I am really sorry for you all that remain there.

  • Anonymous

    jimbojamesiv,

    I believe you are uninformed. I moved lock, stock and barrel out of the USA in 1999. I first started looking for a country to move to in 1995 and found that Russia was the best place for me. Like Leo Sigh in Thailand says — we got some problems, but nothing like what you guys have in the states. Russia is the same – we got some problems, but nothing like what you guys have in the states. I visited the USA once this year and I am really sorry for you all that remain there.

  • ghostof911

    It’s public information available to anyone who cares to do the homework.

  • Anonymous

    When Obama accepted the bid to the presidential office, he joined the military in the position of Supreme Commander. He should have the courtesy to produce his papers just as much as every other draftee. Anything short of that should direct his ass back to where it came from.

  • Anonymous

    When Obama accepted the bid to the presidential office, he joined the military in the position of Supreme Commander. He should have the courtesy to produce his papers just as much as every other draftee. Anything short of that should direct his ass back to where it came from.

  • http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/12/how-deceit-and-truth-are-feeding-resistance-to-u-s-militarism/ How Deceit and Truth Are Feeding Resistance to U.S. Militarism | Dissident Voice

    [...] and world.  The superpower is strong, but weak at the same time.  These seem to be the signs of an empire that could collapse at any [...]

  • ladygeek

    I don’t think it will take that long personally. The fact that alot of countries not just Russia and China are wanting to not peg their currency to the US $. I don’t think that the Saudi’s base the sale of their oil on US$ anymore and pegged it to the price of gold.

  • ladygeek

    I don’t think it will take that long personally. The fact that alot of countries not just Russia and China are wanting to not peg their currency to the US $. I don’t think that the Saudi’s base the sale of their oil on US$ anymore and pegged it to the price of gold.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1821300534 Thom Delahunt

    we need to remove our hard earned money from the hands of private bankers and in to the hand of a public stewardship; such as the social security administration. they have the infrastructure up and running so we wouldn’t need to reinvent the wheel.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1821300534 Thom Delahunt

    we need to remove our hard earned money from the hands of private bankers and in to the hand of a public stewardship; such as the social security administration. they have the infrastructure up and running so we wouldn’t need to reinvent the wheel.

  • http://ephraiyim.wordpress.com/2010/12/26/deceit-and-truth-are-feeding-resistance-to-us-militarism/ Deceit and Truth Are Feeding Resistance to US Militarism « Eclectic Thoughts

    [...] and the world. The superpower is strong, but weak at the same time. These seem to be the signs of an empire that could collapse at [...]

  • http://www.theburningplatform.com/?p=8946 Peak Empire « The Burning Platform

    [...] As far as the speed of imperial collapse, it varies: Rome took five centuries to collapse but USSR took just a couple of years. Alfred W. McCoy, Professor of History at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, recently wrote: "empires regularly unravel with unholy speed: just a year for Portugal, two years for the Soviet Union, eight years for France, 11 years for the Ottomans, 17 years for Great Britain, and, in all likelihood, 22 years for the United States, counting from the crucial year 2003." My hunch is that McCoy's 22-year estimate is overly generous, and that the collapse of the USA will set a speed record, unfolding over just a handful of very strange days. When will this happen? According to Chris Hedges, it could happen any time now.] [...]

  • http://seeker401.wordpress.com/2010/12/30/us-empire-could-collapse-at-any-time/ US empire could collapse at any time « Follow The Money
  • http://wichita.com-kansas.com/blasting-war-all-the-time.html Blasting War All the Time – Wichita

    [...] Read an interview with Chris Hedges just after the speech on the RawStory http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/un&#8230; And another Interview on Democracy Now where he discusses his most recent book, “Death of the [...]

  • http://croptimist.wordpress.com/2011/01/01/my-new-years-revolution/ My New Year’s Revolution « croptimist

    [...] upon. It’s unsustainable and immoral and is bound to collapse. I just hope that I have enough time to complete my transformation before it [...]

  • Anonymous

    The constitutional term is Commander in Chief and it is considered a civilian position. There is no draft. Once you meet qualifications to be in the Office of President you don’t need any papers. We saw the birth certificate in the campaign and need no further discussion. This is contrary to Bush who was appointed by the Supreme Court—see if you find that maneuver in the U.S. Constitution. You should read more often and turn off Fox news..

  • Anonymous

    “A chicken in every pot” was actually not FDR’s but Herbert Hoover.

    A chicken in every pot and a car in every garage – Herbert Hoover

    Claims that the everyone will be prosperous under a Hoover presidency.

    http://www.presidentsusa.net/1928slogan.html
    But we ran into the 1929 Republican Great Depression. Social Security kept widows and orphans from biting the dust.

  • Anonymous

    “A chicken in every pot” was actually not FDR’s but Herbert Hoover.

    A chicken in every pot and a car in every garage – Herbert Hoover

    Claims that the everyone will be prosperous under a Hoover presidency.

    http://www.presidentsusa.net/1928slogan.html
    But we ran into the 1929 Republican Great Depression. Social Security kept widows and orphans from biting the dust.

  • http://astrologieklassisch.wordpress.com/2011/01/09/das-romische-reich-braucht-500-jahre-zum-zusammenbruch-wie-lange-brauchen-die-usa-antwort-wenige-tage/ Das römische Weltreich brauchte 500 Jahre zum Zusammenbruch – Wie lange brauchen die USA? Antwort: Wenige Tage | Analyse + Aktion

    [...] Exclusive: US empire could collapse at any time, Pulitzer winner tells Raw Story [...]

  • http://www.goodfinancial.info/exclusive-us-empire-could-collapse-at-any-time-pulitzer-winner-tells-raw-story/ Exclusive: US empire could collapse at any time, Pulitzer winner tells Raw Story | GoodFinancial.info

    [...] See the original post: Exclusive: US empire could collapse at any time, Pulitzer winner tells Raw Story [...]

  • http://collapseofanempire.com/?p=120 Collapse of the united states | Collapse of an Empire

    [...] Click here for the full story: Posted under Financial Collapse Add comments [...]

  • Anonymous

    Judging by the comments here, I would estimate that a large percentage of the people commenting are clueless as to how we got to this situation. That’s not surprising since our public fool system has dumbed most of us down and injected bullshit into our brains’ history knowledge centers. I don’t really have the time or patience to educate all of you who read this, so I’ll simply point out that the people at therepublicfortheunitedstates (dot org) actually HAVE A CLUE. That organization is the result of a culmination of understanding based on serious study of history and law. The United States as you know it is, in fact, nothing more than a glorified corporation. The ‘government’ in DC is not accountable to the people living on the land because it was not created for that purpose. I recommend going to the site I suggested above and reading the contents on the history tab. When you finally grasp what was done to us many many years ago, it all starts making much more sense.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ULMOEVWIZ74ORBKMSVUYS5QHK4 William Plantagenet

    Hedges is completely off base. Afghanistan did not bring down the Soviet Union, Ronald Reagan did (for subtle reasons relating to the Peacekeeper Missile and the “Star Wars” program). He is also wrong about China “dropping” the US dollar, they would like to, but they have not and do not know how to without costing them the $2.85T of it they have.

    There are only two feasible ways the US could collapse.

    1. Government employees walk off the job, thereby losing law and order. This could occur if they are not paid, or if what they are paid is worthless.

    2. People are starving and overcome law and order. There are only a few days of food in the cities at any particular time. If logistics break down, this could be the result. Logistics can break down if:

    2A. People in the chain (fuel providers, farmers, truckers) refuse to accept the payment offered. (financial destruction)
    2B. An electromagnetic pulse attack (such as from a nuclear weapon in low orbit) destroys the computers that are integral to the logistics chain. (electronic destruction)
    2C. A global-level natural disaster physically blocks the logistics chain. (physical destruction)

    The result of such a loss of government control could be a neo-feudalism, of sorts. The Haves would establish micro-governments to protect themselves against the Have-nots. In times past, that arrangement might have been called a fiefdom. New Orleans gave us a peek into this, as the Have-nots went pillaging and the Haves took care of each other.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ULMOEVWIZ74ORBKMSVUYS5QHK4 William Plantagenet

    Also, Hedges is also completely wrong about “We’ve undergone a corporate coup d’état in slow motion, Our public education system has been gutted. Our infrastructure is corroding and collapsing.” It is the opposite. The Liberals have taken over these key aspects of our society. The schools are failing because of Liberal ideology controlling the schools’ policies, curriculum, and teachers unions. The infrastructure is not being properly maintained because the Liberals would rather spend the money on Income Security, taking money from those who earned it and giving it to those that did not.

    The way to prevent the looming financial collapse is to reject Liberalism, phase out wealth redistribution (~60% of the Federal budget is for entitlements), and help American workers be competitive with China. To be competitive requires automation, high skills, and low labor costs (which include benefits such as health care).

    India is also a competitive threat, or rather the top 5% of their people are. These 5% are not smarter or better, but they do work much, much harder than the average American. As one Indian software manager once told me, “Americans don’t care about their jobs. They go home at 5.” Seeing how her staff worked in Bangalore, I had no argument against the assertion.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3TEMXHP7PO3WBM6CXZZNVZ4MNE mppa

    You said it friend. The people in my generation are having kids and I’m saying, “What the fuck?” How can they not see the writing on the wall. It pisses me off, because someday (I’m 30) I want to have kids but I’m not going to bring one into this world – too screwed up, unless something drastic changes. I may adopt.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3TEMXHP7PO3WBM6CXZZNVZ4MNE mppa

    You said it friend. The people in my generation are having kids and I’m saying, “What the fuck?” How can they not see the writing on the wall. It pisses me off, because someday (I’m 30) I want to have kids but I’m not going to bring one into this world – too screwed up, unless something drastic changes. I may adopt.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3TEMXHP7PO3WBM6CXZZNVZ4MNE mppa

    It’s called, “Inception” – plant an idea and watch it spread.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3TEMXHP7PO3WBM6CXZZNVZ4MNE mppa

    It’s called, “Inception” – plant an idea and watch it spread.

  • http://makingsenseofthings.info/2011/02/is-the-world-as-we-know-it-going-to-collapse/ Is the world as we know it going to collapse? | Making Sense of Things

    [...] economies, leading to bankruptcies.” While the Pulitzer-winning journalist Chris Hedges explains that “America’s military and economic empire could collapse at any time“, some go [...]