Allow me to collect the fragments of my skull before I decide to comment.

Allow me to collect the fragments of my skull before I decide to comment.

Well, NOW I’m confused. How should I take this? I’m not anywhere NEAR a Pat “I’m more crazy than YOU are” Robertson, but if we can actually get his minions on our side of something, I’m not sure that is a bad thing. In fact, it was the loss of support from the little old teatotaller women who insisted on banning alcohol that finally overturned prohibition. We’ve been needing those same crazy Robertson and Falwell followers to either join us or just get out of the way.

Now that it has started, why do I feel so conflicted? I think it’s because I’ve been so opposed to and shocked at everything that has come out of Mr Diamond mine owner’s mouth for at least a couple of decades, that now that he is making sense, it kind of makes me think I’m about to be marginalized and laughed at (again).

I wonder where his profit margin is in this. I don’t know him to do much without one, and I guess it’s got to be that he has lots of land in VA (isn’t that where he’s from?) and wants to grow something he can sell for billions. I’m willing to bet that he’s been seeing the amount of money that comes into those dispensaries, and wants his cut. If it’s legal, he can make even more, with larger sales. And I’ll bet he thinks that cannabis users would be easier to fool into sending him money, too. And of course, his own “rehab centers, I mean brainwashing centers. LOTS of money there.

Okay, I get it now. Thanks for the chance to hash this out. Happy Holidays, all!

Well, NOW I’m confused. How should I take this? I’m not anywhere NEAR a Pat “I’m more crazy than YOU are” Robertson, but if we can actually get his minions on our side of something, I’m not sure that is a bad thing. In fact, it was the loss of support from the little old teatotaller women who insisted on banning alcohol that finally overturned prohibition. We’ve been needing those same crazy Robertson and Falwell followers to either join us or just get out of the way.

Now that it has started, why do I feel so conflicted? I think it’s because I’ve been so opposed to and shocked at everything that has come out of Mr Diamond mine owner’s mouth for at least a couple of decades, that now that he is making sense, it kind of makes me think I’m about to be marginalized and laughed at (again).

I wonder where his profit margin is in this. I don’t know him to do much without one, and I guess it’s got to be that he has lots of land in VA (isn’t that where he’s from?) and wants to grow something he can sell for billions. I’m willing to bet that he’s been seeing the amount of money that comes into those dispensaries, and wants his cut. If it’s legal, he can make even more, with larger sales. And I’ll bet he thinks that cannabis users would be easier to fool into sending him money, too. And of course, his own “rehab centers, I mean brainwashing centers. LOTS of money there.

Okay, I get it now. Thanks for the chance to hash this out. Happy Holidays, all!

for you xtians…

Genesis 1:29

King James Bible
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which [is] upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which [is] the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat…and the purple trainwreck is da bomb!

for you xtians…

Genesis 1:29

King James Bible
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which [is] upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which [is] the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat…and the purple trainwreck is da bomb!

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Make the most of the Indian hemp seed, and sow it everywhere! George Washington in a note to his gardener at Mount Vernon (1794)

Well … later on he’ll claim that he was “possessed by SATAN !” when he said this.

Please let me know when this pig is no longer greedy, when he no longer lies about what “God wants YOU to do [usually -- but not always -- this involves sending him money]“, when he no longer backs up African dictators with whom he shares a financial interest in diamond mines, when he no longer “hides the books” re: the disposition of all that money that his sheeple give him … yeah, he’ll show you what he PRETENDS to be “the books” … he just won’t make them (and the source documents for the books) available to an “outside CPA” … wink, wink. . . .

Robertson is a moral cripple. But I guess a lot of folks here have figured that one out already.

Ring-a-ding-ding!

Didn’t even consider the faith-based rehab potential–not that there isn’t enough of that now.

I got it! MEGA-REHAB CENTERS!

hounddogg

Allow me to shed some light upon your obvious ignorance of the Bible with a bit of hermeneutics.

Rev 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.

In this instance the word “sorceries” pharmakeia in the original Greek text φαρμακεία.
means medication (“pharmacy”), that is, (by extension) magic (literal or figurative): – sorcery, witchcraft.

Drug use is prohibited by the God in the Bible.

Ok, that was a full two minutes of laughter. Thanks.

Rev 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.

SORCERIES in the original Greek is φαρμακεία
pharmakeia = medication (“pharmacy”), that is, (by extension) magic (literal or figurative): – sorcery, witchcraft.

The use of drugs is prohibited in the christian Bible. But thank you for TRYING to shed light upon those of us that already have it through Jesus Christ.

Robertson must have just made some MASSIVE investments in south-of-the-border pot-growing plantations… he doesn’t say anything unless it makes him some serious money.

I just check the U.S. Patent and copyright offices. 700 Club has a patent on a bong that cites Bible verses with each toke. And they copyrighted the following names:
Heavenly Hash
Manna from Heaven
Angels dancing on a pin head
Noah’s Rainbow
Apples in Paradise

my jaw is on the floor just reading this…

I thought that was from the Gospel of Zigzag… but I could just have a short-term memory issue.

We’re locking up people that have taken a couple puffs of marijuana and next thing you know they’ve got 10 years with mandatory sentences. It’s about time we stopped that shit! Save prison for the VIOLENT OFFENDERS!

Can you provide a link?

But drinking wine is okay… Yeah, right. Nowhere in the bible that I’ve read is there a word about smoking cannabis, which was well known in those days, or doing mushrooms, or anything else. It says not to drink TOO MUCH, not doesn’t tell you not to do it. Alcohol is a drug, and it’s still used in churches to this day. In fact, IMHO, it’s the WORST drug out there. I’ve had personal experience with most of them, and alcohol did the most damage to me and my soul. So for you to shit on others for their choice when the DRUG your religion says is fine is a freaking killer is just hypocritical and dangerous at the same time.

Happy Holidays.

the bible says lots of weird stuff…

Kill your kids-verse listed below

Matthew 15:4-7 (New International Version)

“For God said, ‘Honor your father and mother’[a] and ‘Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.’[b] 5But you say that if a man says to his father or mother, ‘Whatever help you might otherwise have received from me is a gift devoted to God,’ 6he is not to ‘honor his father[c]‘ with it. Thus you nullify the word of God for the sake of your tradition. 7You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you:”

Beat your slaves- listed below

Luke 12:47 (New International Version)

47″That servant who knows his master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what his master wants will be beaten with many blows.

kill your non-virgin wife…

“But if the charge is true and there is no proof that she was a virgin, then they are to take her out to the entrance of her father’s house, where the men of her city are to stone her to death. She has done a shameful thing among our people by having intercourse before she was married, while she was still living in her father’s house. In this way you will get rid of this evil. “If a man is caught having intercourse with another man’s wife, both of them are to be put to death. In this way you will get rid of this evil. -Deuteronomy 22:20-22

:)

HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!

HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!

“We’re locking up people that have taken a couple puffs of marijuana..”
Yeah, and often their first offense is the result of some “probable cause” stop using questionable profiling.

“We’re locking up people that have taken a couple puffs of marijuana..”
Yeah, and often their first offense is the result of some “probable cause” stop using questionable profiling.

And one more thing: Lighten up. It’s Christmas, have some kind of understanding of just a MINOR sense of humor, okay? Sheesh, I’m up to my eyeballs in depression and I’m having a better time than you are. It’s supposed to be YOUR time of the year for kindness and generosity if there ever was one, and you’re here lecturing people about what is obviously a joke?

Lighten up. Or might I say, LIGHT UP? If God didn’t want you to make use of a plant that makes you feel peaceful and relaxed, why would he make both that plant and a brain that has receptors to use it? It seems that you are telling God what to tell you, not paying attention to what is around you. God made that plant, he made it non deadly, while man made alcohol, which IS. I’ll stick with those things that God made and that don’t kill anyone, thanks.

And again, Happy Holidays.

And one more thing: Lighten up. It’s Christmas, have some kind of understanding of just a MINOR sense of humor, okay? Sheesh, I’m up to my eyeballs in depression and I’m having a better time than you are. It’s supposed to be YOUR time of the year for kindness and generosity if there ever was one, and you’re here lecturing people about what is obviously a joke?

Lighten up. Or might I say, LIGHT UP? If God didn’t want you to make use of a plant that makes you feel peaceful and relaxed, why would he make both that plant and a brain that has receptors to use it? It seems that you are telling God what to tell you, not paying attention to what is around you. God made that plant, he made it non deadly, while man made alcohol, which IS. I’ll stick with those things that God made and that don’t kill anyone, thanks.

And again, Happy Holidays.

Count on it. the bigger, the better. And all “non profit”, which means that Pat won’t have to share the money with ANYBODY. Oh, yeah, he’s in.

Count on it. the bigger, the better. And all “non profit”, which means that Pat won’t have to share the money with ANYBODY. Oh, yeah, he’s in.

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Is this another case of the bibble not meaning what it says? Gee, I guess god’s word doesn’t mean what it is supposed to mean.

Is this another case of the bibble not meaning what it says? Gee, I guess god’s word doesn’t mean what it is supposed to mean.

rAmen….

rAmen….

(Quote) The use of drugs is prohibited in the christian Bible.(Quote)

Not everyone believes in your god or even gives a rat’s ass what your fairy tale book allows or prohibits.

(Quote) The use of drugs is prohibited in the christian Bible.(Quote)

Not everyone believes in your god or even gives a rat’s ass what your fairy tale book allows or prohibits.

I think that the profit margin is in government funding that will go to the all mighty PAT for every marijuana possession conviction; your choice go to jail or rehab with God.

I think that the profit margin is in government funding that will go to the all mighty PAT for every marijuana possession conviction; your choice go to jail or rehab with God.

(Quote)the bible says lots of weird stuff…(Quote)

The bible was written by a bunch of loons…what can anyone expect?

(Quote)the bible says lots of weird stuff…(Quote)

The bible was written by a bunch of loons…what can anyone expect?

The bibble also endorses abortion, infanticide, slavery, rape, theft, genocide, selling your wife and children into slavery, and a host of other unsavory characteristics.

The bibble also endorses abortion, infanticide, slavery, rape, theft, genocide, selling your wife and children into slavery, and a host of other unsavory characteristics.

Pat Robertson could miraculously transform into Martin Luther King and I wouldn’t trust the slimy little bastard.

Pat Robertson could miraculously transform into Martin Luther King and I wouldn’t trust the slimy little bastard.

By your same logic aspirin is Witchcraft.
According to the Greek Lexicon Pharmakeia has several meanings
“the use or the administering of drugs
poisoning
sorcery, magical arts, often found in connection with idolatry and fostered by it
metaph. the deceptions and seductions of idolatry”

Also keep in mind that words have changed meaning through the ages.
For example Chauncer talked about setting F-a-ggots on fire in one of his stories. Do your own research but he wasn’t talking about homosexuals.

By your same logic aspirin is Witchcraft.
According to the Greek Lexicon Pharmakeia has several meanings
“the use or the administering of drugs
poisoning
sorcery, magical arts, often found in connection with idolatry and fostered by it
metaph. the deceptions and seductions of idolatry”

Also keep in mind that words have changed meaning through the ages.
For example Chauncer talked about setting F-a-ggots on fire in one of his stories. Do your own research but he wasn’t talking about homosexuals.

“Lord, give us righteous judges who will not try to legislate and dominate this society. Take control, Lord! We ask for additional vacancies on the court.” – Pat Robertson

The guy can’t stand judges.

“Lord, give us righteous judges who will not try to legislate and dominate this society. Take control, Lord! We ask for additional vacancies on the court.” – Pat Robertson

The guy can’t stand judges.

lolz!…they can use pot to cure you of “the gay” at no extra charge…XD

lolz!…they can use pot to cure you of “the gay” at no extra charge…XD

Maybe.

Keep in mind, Ronald Reagan went from a liberal union leader to a rightwing spy for the FBI. It sometimes runs the other way. Then again, different folks experience senility in different ways.

Maybe.

Keep in mind, Ronald Reagan went from a liberal union leader to a rightwing spy for the FBI. It sometimes runs the other way. Then again, different folks experience senility in different ways.

Where?

Where?

What happens when you have a gay friend who smokes weed? Let’s ask Pat.

What happens when you have a gay friend who smokes weed? Let’s ask Pat.

Are you suggesting we’re looking at the reestablishment of the Neo-American Church?

Are you suggesting we’re looking at the reestablishment of the Neo-American Church?

No big surprise here. I’ve always considered decriminalization a conservative argument.

No big surprise here. I’ve always considered decriminalization a conservative argument.

As a christian Pat Robertson and his dominionist leanings scares me more than all the demons of hell. I can’t help but wonder what his angle is because Pat does nothing without thinking about his wallet first.

As a christian Pat Robertson and his dominionist leanings scares me more than all the demons of hell. I can’t help but wonder what his angle is because Pat does nothing without thinking about his wallet first.

well if he exists then he should come down and set the record straight. Cause unless you want to go learn aramaic in addition to having first hand knowledeg of the customs of the times you are just as much a charlatan as everyone involved in the grapevine of what is the current reinterpretted regurgitation of the bible.

well if he exists then he should come down and set the record straight. Cause unless you want to go learn aramaic in addition to having first hand knowledeg of the customs of the times you are just as much a charlatan as everyone involved in the grapevine of what is the current reinterpretted regurgitation of the bible.

That’s an even more elliptical excuse for an argument than the one that sees the prediction of “Emmanuel” in the 8th Century BC as a prediction of the (largely fictional) Jesus. Go eat a pork chop and stop pretending to be a follower of the bible. Just because you’re an idiot doesn’t mean you have to wear it silkscreened on your T-shirt.

That’s an even more elliptical excuse for an argument than the one that sees the prediction of “Emmanuel” in the 8th Century BC as a prediction of the (largely fictional) Jesus. Go eat a pork chop and stop pretending to be a follower of the bible. Just because you’re an idiot doesn’t mean you have to wear it silkscreened on your T-shirt.

Robertson? WhatTheFuck???

Robertson? WhatTheFuck???

Opiate for the masses or a little weed….let the Free Market decide. Even when I agree with that sad sack of fake religious puss, he makes me puke.

Opiate for the masses or a little weed….let the Free Market decide. Even when I agree with that sad sack of fake religious puss, he makes me puke.

I stopped beating my slaves years ago. Now I use a cattle prod I ordered from Uncle Barack’s House of Torture and Enhanced Interrogation, LLC.

I stopped beating my slaves years ago. Now I use a cattle prod I ordered from Uncle Barack’s House of Torture and Enhanced Interrogation, LLC.

Man decided marijuana was a drug, not God. Using this logic God would frown upon Tylenol (a man-made phamaceutical) not marijuana (a God-created plant.)

Also, does it prohibit drug use…or drug abuse? If it prohibits drug use, as you claim, I would suggest you don’t undergo chemotherapy if you get cancer or take Lipitor for your high cholesterol.

Man decided marijuana was a drug, not God. Using this logic God would frown upon Tylenol (a man-made phamaceutical) not marijuana (a God-created plant.)

Also, does it prohibit drug use…or drug abuse? If it prohibits drug use, as you claim, I would suggest you don’t undergo chemotherapy if you get cancer or take Lipitor for your high cholesterol.

Man decided marijuana was a drug, not God. Using this logic God would frown upon Tylenol (a man-made phamaceutical) not marijuana (a God-created plant.)

Also, does it prohibit drug use…or drug abuse? If it prohibits drug use, as you claim, I would suggest you don’t undergo chemotherapy if you get cancer or take Lipitor for your high cholesterol.

really?…i started waterboarding mine…it’s legal!…

really?…i started waterboarding mine…it’s legal!…

really?…i started waterboarding mine…it’s legal!…

really?…i started waterboarding mine…it’s legal!…

really?…i started waterboarding mine…it’s legal!…

He let it slip in his commentary: ‘the success of religious-run dormitories for drug and alcohol cessation therapy present an “opportunity” for faith-based communities’. I’m sure he will soon be advocating for drug offenders to be “sentenced” to his rehab programs.

But thanks for speaking out.

He let it slip in his commentary: ‘the success of religious-run dormitories for drug and alcohol cessation therapy present an “opportunity” for faith-based communities’. I’m sure he will soon be advocating for drug offenders to be “sentenced” to his rehab programs.

But thanks for speaking out.

He let it slip in his commentary: ‘the success of religious-run dormitories for drug and alcohol cessation therapy present an “opportunity” for faith-based communities’. I’m sure he will soon be advocating for drug offenders to be “sentenced” to his rehab programs.

But thanks for speaking out.

He let it slip in his commentary: ‘the success of religious-run dormitories for drug and alcohol cessation therapy present an “opportunity” for faith-based communities’. I’m sure he will soon be advocating for drug offenders to be “sentenced” to his rehab programs.

But thanks for speaking out.

He let it slip in his commentary: ‘the success of religious-run dormitories for drug and alcohol cessation therapy present an “opportunity” for faith-based communities’. I’m sure he will soon be advocating for drug offenders to be “sentenced” to his rehab programs.

But thanks for speaking out.

Allow be to shed light on your ignorance Dan.

Gen 1 12 god has given you all the seed bearing plants and herbs to use.

Like anything on the bible you translate anything however you want. Maybe you should kill your first born son, or when your wife dies marry her oldest unwed sister, or maybe you should…………as long as people like you exist our country will be screwed up. No matter what your beliefs religion has no place in legislation. God gives you choice who is man to take that away. If I choose to ingest drugs in my body and it hurts no one but me who are you to stop me. I mean the bible says you should whip your wife when she disobey….do you do that? No because that infringes on her freedom and therefore is illegal as it should be. But my smoking cannabis doesn’t effect you freedoms so why are you infringing on mine?

Allow be to shed light on your ignorance Dan.

Gen 1 12 god has given you all the seed bearing plants and herbs to use.

Like anything on the bible you translate anything however you want. Maybe you should kill your first born son, or when your wife dies marry her oldest unwed sister, or maybe you should…………as long as people like you exist our country will be screwed up. No matter what your beliefs religion has no place in legislation. God gives you choice who is man to take that away. If I choose to ingest drugs in my body and it hurts no one but me who are you to stop me. I mean the bible says you should whip your wife when she disobey….do you do that? No because that infringes on her freedom and therefore is illegal as it should be. But my smoking cannabis doesn’t effect you freedoms so why are you infringing on mine?

Allow be to shed light on your ignorance Dan.

Gen 1 12 god has given you all the seed bearing plants and herbs to use.

Like anything on the bible you translate anything however you want. Maybe you should kill your first born son, or when your wife dies marry her oldest unwed sister, or maybe you should…………as long as people like you exist our country will be screwed up. No matter what your beliefs religion has no place in legislation. God gives you choice who is man to take that away. If I choose to ingest drugs in my body and it hurts no one but me who are you to stop me. I mean the bible says you should whip your wife when she disobey….do you do that? No because that infringes on her freedom and therefore is illegal as it should be. But my smoking cannabis doesn’t effect you freedoms so why are you infringing on mine?

Allow be to shed light on your ignorance Dan.

Gen 1 12 god has given you all the seed bearing plants and herbs to use.

Like anything on the bible you translate anything however you want. Maybe you should kill your first born son, or when your wife dies marry her oldest unwed sister, or maybe you should…………as long as people like you exist our country will be screwed up. No matter what your beliefs religion has no place in legislation. God gives you choice who is man to take that away. If I choose to ingest drugs in my body and it hurts no one but me who are you to stop me. I mean the bible says you should whip your wife when she disobey….do you do that? No because that infringes on her freedom and therefore is illegal as it should be. But my smoking cannabis doesn’t effect you freedoms so why are you infringing on mine?

It really IS the end of the world…

It really IS the end of the world…

It really IS the end of the world…

Kind of weird coming from old Pat.

Kind of weird coming from old Pat.

Kind of weird coming from old Pat.

Kind of weird coming from old Pat.

BFD

BFD

BFD

BFD

BFD

The bible starts with the same letter as Bullshit. Do you think that is merely accident? I think not.

The bible starts with the same letter as Bullshit. Do you think that is merely accident? I think not.

The bible starts with the same letter as Bullshit. Do you think that is merely accident? I think not.

The bible starts with the same letter as Bullshit. Do you think that is merely accident? I think not.

The bible starts with the same letter as Bullshit. Do you think that is merely accident? I think not.

The classic parody of these guys is in Repo Man, with Emilio Estevez.

The classic parody of these guys is in Repo Man, with Emilio Estevez.

The classic parody of these guys is in Repo Man, with Emilio Estevez.

The classic parody of these guys is in Repo Man, with Emilio Estevez.

The classic parody of these guys is in Repo Man, with Emilio Estevez.

This point was so important to the authors (plural) of the bible that they hid it away in some obscure passage, where you idiots had to come along and decipher it using your Captain Midnight Ovaltine Decoder Ring, rather than spell it out in plain Aramaic, “Thou shalt not get stoned on anything other than grape wine!”

Sure.

Pat Robertson finally says something intelligent. The End can’t be far now.

Pat must have been on some wowwie Maui during this taping.

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Well, you see, ripping out the bellies of pregnant women is just a metaphor for the lack of fecundity of the soil around Jerusalem. ;-)

I’m trying not to be totally cynical about this, and your constant harping back to reality isn’t helping any! ;-)

“Angels dancing on a pin head.”

Can I make an educated guess who the pin head is?

Gotta keep the Prison-Industrial Complex operating.

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Could old pat be a closet weed smoker? At least that would explain his goofy remarks! He was stoned!!

Conservatives like Milton Friedman, Bill Buckley, George Schultz and many others have been among the leading intellectuals over the last several decades for legalizing drugs. Unfortunately, the social conservatives have been on the opposite side. So, it’s great to hear that Robertson finally gets it.

I have no idea how much influence the guy still has, but if he still has any it will immediately dissipate into the ether or just maybe some of his followers may wake up and realize that he is right. It will be interesting to see which combination of these occurs.

U.S. alcohol prohibition created the mafia. U.S. drug prohibition created the Latin American drug cartels and the American drug gangs in our inner cities. The damage that they have caused FAR outweighs the damage that using drugs has caused.

There are so many fact on the benefits of cannabis and the harm of prohibition that even people on the right can see and feel the truth. Hats off to Pat for responding to his own inner reason!

There is only one instance where I believe pot is a ‘gateway’ drug. That’s when a guy named Pat Robertson couldn’t get high anymore on pot and graduated to full time mushrooms.
But Kudos to him.

Gee, sounds like an endorsement of our rogue government. See, we ARE a Christian nation. Thanks for pointing that out.

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You must have missed it. Started back in the early 80′s when Reagan started opening the flood gates of public money for religious institutions. Since then it’s just gotten worse, and what did these places do with their money? Start even bigger churches, start slandering those they disagreed with, and started influencing politics in ways that violate their tax free status. Hell, just up the road from me about 6 miles is a church that is trying to get zoning laws ignored or overturned so they can have a HUGE place that will dwarf the community it is in. The community wants NOTHING to do with this place, and yet this church is trying to force it’s way in, claiming religious freedom and “their rights”, completely ignoring those of everyone who LIVES there to be free of THEM.

Its’ been going on for yeas, with Robertson and Falwell and especially Sculler, who all preach that if you are rich, it’s not because you are actually greedy, it’s because GOD wants you to be rich. It doesn’t matter that Christ said that it’s easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than a rich man to enter heaven. It doesn’t matter that Christ said that to follow him you should sell everything you have and give the money to the poor. NONE of this matters to these people, and that is why so many of us have such problems with them. They live by the very things that Christ said NOT to, and then turn around and bash you over the head with their false ideology.

It’s been going on for a while, now. It made me leave the idea of Christianity behind as a viable way to live. I still believe in the basic tenets, but the way everything else has been twisted make it a perversion that isn’t worth even dealing with. I don’t need God to threaten me to treat people well. I don’t need a threat of hell over me to keep from killing anyone. I don’t rape anyone or steal from them, either, and not because I’m afraid of hell, but because I believe in certain moral things, and any of those things hurt others. Too bad no one ever taught these people the basic idea that you should “treat others the way you would have them treat you”. It works every time.

It will be just like our modern probation for profit model. The state used to get the fees from those on probation, and now it all goes to a private company. The state actually PAYS these idiots to take the contract, SOME savings when it costs you 11 TIMES what you were paying BEFORE the for profit model. In Colorado, for instance, we paid BEFORE privatization of prisons a yearly total of about $70 million. Now, after the SAVINGS of privatization, we pay $770 MILLION PER YEAR. We spend as much here to lock up people for WEED as we used to for EVERYTHING.

It will be one hell of a windfall for this piece of crap. It’s really the only way I can think of that he sees the reason to be behind sanity.

“[T]hat kinda thing it’s just, it’s costing us a fortune and it’s ruining young people….”

Morality follows the money: “It’s costing us a fortune.”

But he loves Numbers and Deuteronomy…

Wish you would have told THEM that…

Nice try.

WHERE does it say in the Bible … “no drugs”

All you’ve done is play games, here. Anyone can just take a verse and pretend that it “really means” whatever you WANT it to mean, which is exactly what you’ve done.

Thanks for the comic relief … DanBolivarSATAN.

It’s easy, Follow the MONEY. It’s ALWAYS about the money. Think it through, and look at his words. He came out and said he wants to run rehab centers. How much MONEY is there in that? TONS.

Only thing is, Pat doesn’t get it. He thinks that weed is the same as alcohol, and that people NEED help to quit if they want. Nothing is further from the truth. If you want to quit, you just quit. There aren’t any withdrawal symptoms, no headaches, no screaming fits, no climbing the walls like cigs, and no health issues like alcohol. The ONLY way he will be making money once it’s legal is through some kind of gov’ t program FORCING people into his centers. But you can bet, he’ll be getting help with THAT, too.

It’s easy, Follow the MONEY. It’s ALWAYS about the money. Think it through, and look at his words. He came out and said he wants to run rehab centers. How much MONEY is there in that? TONS.

Only thing is, Pat doesn’t get it. He thinks that weed is the same as alcohol, and that people NEED help to quit if they want. Nothing is further from the truth. If you want to quit, you just quit. There aren’t any withdrawal symptoms, no headaches, no screaming fits, no climbing the walls like cigs, and no health issues like alcohol. The ONLY way he will be making money once it’s legal is through some kind of gov’ t program FORCING people into his centers. But you can bet, he’ll be getting help with THAT, too.

And he’s NOT SHARING! How unchristian of him!

And he’s NOT SHARING! How unchristian of him!

Nah, no one who is stoned is THAT mean spirited and violent. I think he was drunk, or doing massive quantities of prescriptions (more likely). Those on the legal pad pills can think some REALLY strange things.

Nah, no one who is stoned is THAT mean spirited and violent. I think he was drunk, or doing massive quantities of prescriptions (more likely). Those on the legal pad pills can think some REALLY strange things.

Conservatives have a tendency to attach themselves to a Hive Mind, and they tend to be very fearful of deviating from that.

Pat Robertson just detached from the hive and took the time to actually learn about the waste and high cost of incarcerating marijuana users and dealers.

He is to be congratulated for detaching from the hive and speaking the truth on this issue. He mentioned the fact that a harmless young marijuana user may go to prison, become ruined, and exit that prison as a hardened criminal. He sees the light on this issue.

Good job this time, Pat. Keep up the good work such as this.

Conservatives have a tendency to attach themselves to a Hive Mind, and they tend to be very fearful of deviating from that.

Pat Robertson just detached from the hive and took the time to actually learn about the waste and high cost of incarcerating marijuana users and dealers.

He is to be congratulated for detaching from the hive and speaking the truth on this issue. He mentioned the fact that a harmless young marijuana user may go to prison, become ruined, and exit that prison as a hardened criminal. He sees the light on this issue.

Good job this time, Pat. Keep up the good work such as this.

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Ok, now let’s get Pat high, and maybe we can correct some more of that flawed brain chemistry he’s got goin’ on upstairs.

Oh and Pat, Genesis 1:29 “God said, Behold, I have given you every herb yielding seed, which is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree, which bears fruit yielding seed. It will be your food.”-(Some Holy Book) World English Translation

Thanks for reading. Now you have a few more chapters to go, and you’ll be at the end! ;)

Ok, now let’s get Pat high, and maybe we can correct some more of that flawed brain chemistry he’s got goin’ on upstairs.

Oh and Pat, Genesis 1:29 “God said, Behold, I have given you every herb yielding seed, which is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree, which bears fruit yielding seed. It will be your food.”-(Some Holy Book) World English Translation

Thanks for reading. Now you have a few more chapters to go, and you’ll be at the end! ;)

Hu man. In a vault. Truth might just come out after all. Evolution = four species of hominid. Not 1.

Dovanian = cannibals, smarter, faster, stronger.
Hobit = not a story, bones in a vault. The seeiers of the third eye. Murder. 1b.

Neanderthal = genesis
Cromag = keeper, breeder. Slaver. Lover. King.

Everything was to keep you from freaking out because all you ever do is freak out. We just didn’t have all the numbers so we kept our mouths shut.

One ring to rule them all. It’s called science, you just didn’t know what the word meant. Smart enough to keep silent.

Rebel = the kid who figured out it was bullshit so you all kicked him till he shut up.

Hu man. In a vault. Truth might just come out after all. Evolution = four species of hominid. Not 1.

Dovanian = cannibals, smarter, faster, stronger.
Hobit = not a story, bones in a vault. The seeiers of the third eye. Murder. 1b.

Neanderthal = genesis
Cromag = keeper, breeder. Slaver. Lover. King.

Everything was to keep you from freaking out because all you ever do is freak out. We just didn’t have all the numbers so we kept our mouths shut.

One ring to rule them all. It’s called science, you just didn’t know what the word meant. Smart enough to keep silent.

Rebel = the kid who figured out it was bullshit so you all kicked him till he shut up.

Best comment ever!

And exactly how I felt, too. o_O

Best comment ever!

And exactly how I felt, too. o_O

Oh! Don’t forget the Battle of the Foreskins.
That one really left an impression on me in Sunday school.

Oh! Don’t forget the Battle of the Foreskins.
That one really left an impression on me in Sunday school.

Nope. Abortion is tolerated in our society as it is a woman’s body and her decision on what happens with it. All those other “unsavory characteristics” are illegal and not approved of.

Nope. Abortion is tolerated in our society as it is a woman’s body and her decision on what happens with it. All those other “unsavory characteristics” are illegal and not approved of.

That may be. BUT, if the bibble is god’s word and written with god guiding man’s hand, then it should mean what it says. If there are different interpretations than what is written in plain English then it isn’t god’s word.

That may be. BUT, if the bibble is god’s word and written with god guiding man’s hand, then it should mean what it says. If there are different interpretations than what is written in plain English then it isn’t god’s word.

Ummmnn… if =everybody= could “just quit” whenever they wanted to, how would you explain the existence of Marijuana Anonymous and the other two 12 Step groups that merged with MA? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marijuana_Anonymous

Ummmnn… if =everybody= could “just quit” whenever they wanted to, how would you explain the existence of Marijuana Anonymous and the other two 12 Step groups that merged with MA? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marijuana_Anonymous

Ummmnn… if =everybody= could “just quit” whenever they wanted to, how would you explain the existence of Marijuana Anonymous and the other two 12 Step groups that merged with MA? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marijuana_Anonymous

Ummmnn… if =everybody= could “just quit” whenever they wanted to, how would you explain the existence of Marijuana Anonymous and the other two 12 Step groups that merged with MA? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marijuana_Anonymous

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pat robertson , Pack yer asbestos suit cuzz yer gonna burn it HELL !

pat robertson , Pack yer asbestos suit cuzz yer gonna burn it HELL !

pat robertson , Pack yer asbestos suit cuzz yer gonna burn it HELL !

pat robertson , Pack yer asbestos suit cuzz yer gonna burn it HELL !

Beware of conservatives (or anyone!) coming out in favor of “legalization” of marijuana. Better find out what they mean by “legalization.”
But first, please note that there’s a faulty premise in the Pat Robertson story: “Some faith-based groups, like the Council of Churches and Church IMPACT, also helped promote California’s failed Prop. 19 ballot initiative, which would have legalized marijuana cultivation, sales and consumption by adults over 21-years-old.”
Prop. 19 would NOT have “legalized marijuana.” First, under California state law, use of marijuana for medical reasons IS already legal. Prop. 19 was allegedly intended to legalize RECREATIONAL use. But the initiative could not have legalized recreational use of a drug that is still a Schedulte 1 drug in both the federal AND state Controlled Substances Act.
What Prop. 19 would have done, if it had passed, would have been to change existing MEDICAL marijuana laws in ways that HURT patients. For example, under existing law, people under 21 can, and do, use cannabis as medicine. People under 21 get cancer, AIDS, and weird, nasty diseases like recurrent, multi-focal osteomylitis, as well as ADD and ADHD, for which cannabis may be the best medication. Prop. 19 would have made it illegal for anyone under 21 to use cannabis as a medicine. And, because Prop. 19 had a severalbility clause, all the stuff about recreational use would have been struck out — leaving just the bad changes to the existing medical marijuana laws.
The real power behind Prop. 19 — as well as behind some of these organized current efforts to “legalize” marijuana (notice how such efforts now always involve a lot of government regulation and control?) is Big Government and Big Pharma. There’s a great investigative piece by Conrad Kicenski on the connection between Prop. 19′s supporters and Big Pharma and Monsanto. (And re Monsanto — if 19 had passed, it would ahve allowed treh commerical cultiavtion of “non-active cannabis” — defined as something different thatn hemp, mind you — so teh only way to get non-active cannabis is to put a THC-knock-out gene in marijuana/cannabis — something right up Monsanto’s alley . . . .)
So no surprise that Big Religion, too, is now going to back “legalization!”

Beware of conservatives (or anyone!) coming out in favor of “legalization” of marijuana. Better find out what they mean by “legalization.”
But first, please note that there’s a faulty premise in the Pat Robertson story: “Some faith-based groups, like the Council of Churches and Church IMPACT, also helped promote California’s failed Prop. 19 ballot initiative, which would have legalized marijuana cultivation, sales and consumption by adults over 21-years-old.”
Prop. 19 would NOT have “legalized marijuana.” First, under California state law, use of marijuana for medical reasons IS already legal. Prop. 19 was allegedly intended to legalize RECREATIONAL use. But the initiative could not have legalized recreational use of a drug that is still a Schedulte 1 drug in both the federal AND state Controlled Substances Act.
What Prop. 19 would have done, if it had passed, would have been to change existing MEDICAL marijuana laws in ways that HURT patients. For example, under existing law, people under 21 can, and do, use cannabis as medicine. People under 21 get cancer, AIDS, and weird, nasty diseases like recurrent, multi-focal osteomylitis, as well as ADD and ADHD, for which cannabis may be the best medication. Prop. 19 would have made it illegal for anyone under 21 to use cannabis as a medicine. And, because Prop. 19 had a severalbility clause, all the stuff about recreational use would have been struck out — leaving just the bad changes to the existing medical marijuana laws.
The real power behind Prop. 19 — as well as behind some of these organized current efforts to “legalize” marijuana (notice how such efforts now always involve a lot of government regulation and control?) is Big Government and Big Pharma. There’s a great investigative piece by Conrad Kicenski on the connection between Prop. 19′s supporters and Big Pharma and Monsanto. (And re Monsanto — if 19 had passed, it would ahve allowed treh commerical cultiavtion of “non-active cannabis” — defined as something different thatn hemp, mind you — so teh only way to get non-active cannabis is to put a THC-knock-out gene in marijuana/cannabis — something right up Monsanto’s alley . . . .)
So no surprise that Big Religion, too, is now going to back “legalization!”

Beware of conservatives (or anyone!) coming out in favor of “legalization” of marijuana. Better find out what they mean by “legalization.”
But first, please note that there’s a faulty premise in the Pat Robertson story: “Some faith-based groups, like the Council of Churches and Church IMPACT, also helped promote California’s failed Prop. 19 ballot initiative, which would have legalized marijuana cultivation, sales and consumption by adults over 21-years-old.”
Prop. 19 would NOT have “legalized marijuana.” First, under California state law, use of marijuana for medical reasons IS already legal. Prop. 19 was allegedly intended to legalize RECREATIONAL use. But the initiative could not have legalized recreational use of a drug that is still a Schedulte 1 drug in both the federal AND state Controlled Substances Act.
What Prop. 19 would have done, if it had passed, would have been to change existing MEDICAL marijuana laws in ways that HURT patients. For example, under existing law, people under 21 can, and do, use cannabis as medicine. People under 21 get cancer, AIDS, and weird, nasty diseases like recurrent, multi-focal osteomylitis, as well as ADD and ADHD, for which cannabis may be the best medication. Prop. 19 would have made it illegal for anyone under 21 to use cannabis as a medicine. And, because Prop. 19 had a severalbility clause, all the stuff about recreational use would have been struck out — leaving just the bad changes to the existing medical marijuana laws.
The real power behind Prop. 19 — as well as behind some of these organized current efforts to “legalize” marijuana (notice how such efforts now always involve a lot of government regulation and control?) is Big Government and Big Pharma. There’s a great investigative piece by Conrad Kicenski on the connection between Prop. 19′s supporters and Big Pharma and Monsanto. (And re Monsanto — if 19 had passed, it would ahve allowed treh commerical cultiavtion of “non-active cannabis” — defined as something different thatn hemp, mind you — so teh only way to get non-active cannabis is to put a THC-knock-out gene in marijuana/cannabis — something right up Monsanto’s alley . . . .)
So no surprise that Big Religion, too, is now going to back “legalization!”

Beware of conservatives (or anyone!) coming out in favor of “legalization” of marijuana. Better find out what they mean by “legalization.”
But first, please note that there’s a faulty premise in the Pat Robertson story: “Some faith-based groups, like the Council of Churches and Church IMPACT, also helped promote California’s failed Prop. 19 ballot initiative, which would have legalized marijuana cultivation, sales and consumption by adults over 21-years-old.”
Prop. 19 would NOT have “legalized marijuana.” First, under California state law, use of marijuana for medical reasons IS already legal. Prop. 19 was allegedly intended to legalize RECREATIONAL use. But the initiative could not have legalized recreational use of a drug that is still a Schedulte 1 drug in both the federal AND state Controlled Substances Act.
What Prop. 19 would have done, if it had passed, would have been to change existing MEDICAL marijuana laws in ways that HURT patients. For example, under existing law, people under 21 can, and do, use cannabis as medicine. People under 21 get cancer, AIDS, and weird, nasty diseases like recurrent, multi-focal osteomylitis, as well as ADD and ADHD, for which cannabis may be the best medication. Prop. 19 would have made it illegal for anyone under 21 to use cannabis as a medicine. And, because Prop. 19 had a severalbility clause, all the stuff about recreational use would have been struck out — leaving just the bad changes to the existing medical marijuana laws.
The real power behind Prop. 19 — as well as behind some of these organized current efforts to “legalize” marijuana (notice how such efforts now always involve a lot of government regulation and control?) is Big Government and Big Pharma. There’s a great investigative piece by Conrad Kicenski on the connection between Prop. 19′s supporters and Big Pharma and Monsanto. (And re Monsanto — if 19 had passed, it would ahve allowed treh commerical cultiavtion of “non-active cannabis” — defined as something different thatn hemp, mind you — so teh only way to get non-active cannabis is to put a THC-knock-out gene in marijuana/cannabis — something right up Monsanto’s alley . . . .)
So no surprise that Big Religion, too, is now going to back “legalization!”

Wow, so when did Roberton start getting high, anyway?

Wow, so when did Roberton start getting high, anyway?

Wow, so when did Roberton start getting high, anyway?

Wow, so when did Roberton start getting high, anyway?

God doesn’t approve of drugs? Sorry, but that is not evident in what you’ve presented, even accounting for the original term φαρμακεια. The precise assertion based on that verse is that God doesn’t approve of Babylon’s drugs.

The “thee” in that verse (which, as is typically the case, has been ripped out of context) refers specifically to the City of Babylon, and the story around the verse is the destruction of that city. Moreover, the verse is taken from the dream chapter of Revelations, which even many scholars admit resembles the description of a drunken nightmare or a bad acid trip (a seriously old school bad acid trip), so using it as “evidence” of any sort is a dubious prospect, at best.

Besides, the term φαρμακεια could almost as easily refer to greed, deception or seduction, as it does to drugs or witchcraft when read in the context of the actual story. It can in fact be read more generally as anything addictive and taken to excess, and within the verse itself seems to refer to greed more than anything. At worst, this dream is warning that those who profit from drugs– the drug dealers, and presumably the pharmaceuticals industry– are evil, not the drugs or their use. That’s just my interpretation, though.

And that, of course, is the problem with using the Bible (and especially Revelations!) to support one’s own point. I can spin it just as well as you can– and we’ll both be right (and wrong!) in the end.

God doesn’t approve of drugs? Sorry, but that is not evident in what you’ve presented, even accounting for the original term φαρμακεια. The precise assertion based on that verse is that God doesn’t approve of Babylon’s drugs.

The “thee” in that verse (which, as is typically the case, has been ripped out of context) refers specifically to the City of Babylon, and the story around the verse is the destruction of that city. Moreover, the verse is taken from the dream chapter of Revelations, which even many scholars admit resembles the description of a drunken nightmare or a bad acid trip (a seriously old school bad acid trip), so using it as “evidence” of any sort is a dubious prospect, at best.

Besides, the term φαρμακεια could almost as easily refer to greed, deception or seduction, as it does to drugs or witchcraft when read in the context of the actual story. It can in fact be read more generally as anything addictive and taken to excess, and within the verse itself seems to refer to greed more than anything. At worst, this dream is warning that those who profit from drugs– the drug dealers, and presumably the pharmaceuticals industry– are evil, not the drugs or their use. That’s just my interpretation, though.

And that, of course, is the problem with using the Bible (and especially Revelations!) to support one’s own point. I can spin it just as well as you can– and we’ll both be right (and wrong!) in the end.

Well, to be fair, the point in question is hidden in Revelations, which is widely regarded as “The Book of John’s Worst Acid Trip”.

Well, to be fair, the point in question is hidden in Revelations, which is widely regarded as “The Book of John’s Worst Acid Trip”.

these are your words – “The bibble also endorses abortion” to which I responded appropriately and now you say no, not so. One of the reasons I call you fuzzie.

Now, in response to these words of yours “Abortion is tolerated in our society as it is a woman’s body and her decision” – yes abortion is tolerated, but not because a woman is respected to make her own decisions about her own body, she isn’t.

There are all kinds of rules and regulations that prevent women from making their own decisions. If women were truly respected there would be no laws at all regarding abortion. Women know that, men don’t. After all it was men who made anti-abortion laws prior to women having the vote, and it was Republican men who who decided Roe v Wade which gives draconian control over women’s lives to remote men on godlike power trips.

these are your words – “The bibble also endorses abortion” to which I responded appropriately and now you say no, not so. One of the reasons I call you fuzzie.

Now, in response to these words of yours “Abortion is tolerated in our society as it is a woman’s body and her decision” – yes abortion is tolerated, but not because a woman is respected to make her own decisions about her own body, she isn’t.

There are all kinds of rules and regulations that prevent women from making their own decisions. If women were truly respected there would be no laws at all regarding abortion. Women know that, men don’t. After all it was men who made anti-abortion laws prior to women having the vote, and it was Republican men who who decided Roe v Wade which gives draconian control over women’s lives to remote men on godlike power trips.

*FIRST PAGE* OF THE BIBLE:

“Then God said, “I give you *every* seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. ” (GEN 1:29-30)

As anyone who has every bought cheap marijuana knows, there are tons of seeds. You can also get high by eating marijuana, of course.

Any supposed Bible-believing Christian or Jew who thinks marijuana should be illegal either hasn’t read the first page of their own book, or isn’t what they pretend to be.

*FIRST PAGE* OF THE BIBLE:

“Then God said, “I give you *every* seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. ” (GEN 1:29-30)

As anyone who has every bought cheap marijuana knows, there are tons of seeds. You can also get high by eating marijuana, of course.

Any supposed Bible-believing Christian or Jew who thinks marijuana should be illegal either hasn’t read the first page of their own book, or isn’t what they pretend to be.

Does that have to do with the Hill of Foreskins? A friend showed me that one recently. Beautiful stuff.

Does that have to do with the Hill of Foreskins? A friend showed me that one recently. Beautiful stuff.

Great, I was just enjoy all the smart company I shared on this issue and then this bumbling buffoon tags on. On the bright side if the idiots are finally listening maybe we’ll start getting somewhere.

Great, I was just enjoy all the smart company I shared on this issue and then this bumbling buffoon tags on. On the bright side if the idiots are finally listening maybe we’ll start getting somewhere.

Great, I was just enjoy all the smart company I shared on this issue and then this bumbling buffoon tags on. On the bright side if the idiots are finally listening maybe we’ll start getting somewhere.

Great, I was just enjoy all the smart company I shared on this issue and then this bumbling buffoon tags on. On the bright side if the idiots are finally listening maybe we’ll start getting somewhere.

Sadly, this is where my political party, the Democratic Party, from the President on down, is waaaayyyy out of step with its rank and file and the average US citizen.

Write your representatives!

Sadly, this is where my political party, the Democratic Party, from the President on down, is waaaayyyy out of step with its rank and file and the average US citizen.

Write your representatives!

Oh, yeah! He’s a closet smoker. And he probably smokes a lot more than reefer too. All of these bigoted assholes usually do.

Oh, yeah! He’s a closet smoker. And he probably smokes a lot more than reefer too. All of these bigoted assholes usually do.

Only on this?

Only on this?

Pat Robertson has another name….”Mammon”

Pat Robertson has another name….”Mammon”

Easy. There are a LOT of people who believe things that aren’t true. LOTS of this very topic’s comments have been from people who believe things that I certainly can’t verify, so I can’t say they are true. I know for a fact that there are no withdrawals from quitting been there, done that. NO problems, and that was after smoking DAILY (and lots, too) for over 20 years. If ANYONE would have had issues quitting it would have been me. And I had NONE. And I’ve yet to talk to anyone who has ever felt any symptoms at all, either.

I’ve been to the 12 step thing, for quitting alcohol, and that was a total waste of time. For some people it might be fine, for others, it’s a total opposite of what they really need. Ever done it? Let me tell you about it in case you haven’t. It insists that you have to surrender your free will to a “higher power”, and that you MUST admit that yo are powerless to control yourself. What kind of BULLSHIT is that? The LAST thing I needed was to think of was how powerless I was. That was what was making me drink in the first place! I didn’t need to be driven down, I needed to be built up, and there was NONE of that there. I gave it a try, but once I realized why it wasn’t helping me, I left and never went back. I’ve been much better since, too. That was over 20 years ago.

Weed is not the danger that those who make money off of it’s prohibition claim it is. It’s not addictive (not that there is a medical definition of the word addiction, anyway), at least not physically, and if one just wants to get off of it, it’s like a friend of mine said, “you just stop”. It’s really that easy. We, however, have this foolish idea that we are incapable of helping ourselves, that we really HAVE to have someone else help us. I quit drinking by myself, and I quit taking speed by myself, and I have quit cannabis, though I have started again after a 2 years hiatus. Until you can find ONE person who has died because they smoked cannabis (and I mean DIRECTLY, regardless of how many years it took), I will stand by my belief that is is far more of an enhancement for many of us than it is a danger to anyone. And as long as I can smoke a cigarette or drink until I’m comatose or take so many prescription pills that I swell up like Elvis, I see no reason why I shouldn’t be able to have a couple of hits of what *I* want. I’m not hurting anyone else, and according to the senate tests from 1970 and 1972, I’m not even hurting myself.

Easy. There are a LOT of people who believe things that aren’t true. LOTS of this very topic’s comments have been from people who believe things that I certainly can’t verify, so I can’t say they are true. I know for a fact that there are no withdrawals from quitting been there, done that. NO problems, and that was after smoking DAILY (and lots, too) for over 20 years. If ANYONE would have had issues quitting it would have been me. And I had NONE. And I’ve yet to talk to anyone who has ever felt any symptoms at all, either.

I’ve been to the 12 step thing, for quitting alcohol, and that was a total waste of time. For some people it might be fine, for others, it’s a total opposite of what they really need. Ever done it? Let me tell you about it in case you haven’t. It insists that you have to surrender your free will to a “higher power”, and that you MUST admit that yo are powerless to control yourself. What kind of BULLSHIT is that? The LAST thing I needed was to think of was how powerless I was. That was what was making me drink in the first place! I didn’t need to be driven down, I needed to be built up, and there was NONE of that there. I gave it a try, but once I realized why it wasn’t helping me, I left and never went back. I’ve been much better since, too. That was over 20 years ago.

Weed is not the danger that those who make money off of it’s prohibition claim it is. It’s not addictive (not that there is a medical definition of the word addiction, anyway), at least not physically, and if one just wants to get off of it, it’s like a friend of mine said, “you just stop”. It’s really that easy. We, however, have this foolish idea that we are incapable of helping ourselves, that we really HAVE to have someone else help us. I quit drinking by myself, and I quit taking speed by myself, and I have quit cannabis, though I have started again after a 2 years hiatus. Until you can find ONE person who has died because they smoked cannabis (and I mean DIRECTLY, regardless of how many years it took), I will stand by my belief that is is far more of an enhancement for many of us than it is a danger to anyone. And as long as I can smoke a cigarette or drink until I’m comatose or take so many prescription pills that I swell up like Elvis, I see no reason why I shouldn’t be able to have a couple of hits of what *I* want. I’m not hurting anyone else, and according to the senate tests from 1970 and 1972, I’m not even hurting myself.

Yawn… robertson is SO irrelevant…

Yawn… robertson is SO irrelevant…

i know!…look what it did to these guys…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arlloPlGoHs

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say no to drugs and yes to terorism ronaLd s regans legacy

You’re a god damn moron if you don’t support legalizing weed by now. that is all

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I don’t suppose summary dismissal of the ignorant ramblings of Bronze Age illiterates would hold much sway with you, huh?

Didn’t think so.

Quick, get the bill to the floor before it wears off!

Quick, get the bill to the floor before it wears off!

Quick, get the bill to the floor before it wears off!

Quick, get the bill to the floor before it wears off!

Well… sorry!

Maybe Robertson just got a new ‘Z’ of whatever the “two hit drool weed” is these days and went “off the reservation” on air by mistake?

Well… sorry!

Maybe Robertson just got a new ‘Z’ of whatever the “two hit drool weed” is these days and went “off the reservation” on air by mistake?

Well… sorry!

Maybe Robertson just got a new ‘Z’ of whatever the “two hit drool weed” is these days and went “off the reservation” on air by mistake?

Well… sorry!

Maybe Robertson just got a new ‘Z’ of whatever the “two hit drool weed” is these days and went “off the reservation” on air by mistake?

My sentiments exactly.

My sentiments exactly.

My sentiments exactly.

My sentiments exactly.

don’t give him too much credit, the hive is going nowhere, and neither is Pat. An filthy snake like that will change his spots in a sec if there is something to be gained…

fyi: everything anyone needs to know about ‘the hive’, a political ‘must read’, imo…
http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/

If Robertson is for legalization, it means only one thing: he has found a way to make money from it.

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pat,dont bogart that joint my friend,pass it over to me.
rrrrrrrolllllllll another one, just like the other one

Good for sanity. After all it’s God’s plant to begin with!

Hey Pat… who cares what you think, EVER. the world does just fine without your input, one way or the other. Don’t try to co-opt this issue with your insincere garbage.

After spewing so many lies and so much hatespeech for so many years, he just had to be a closet stoner. Now we know he is.

Marijuana doesn’t make you hate. That’s a moronic statement.

Pot should be legalized as a recreational drug, the same as alcohol. It should be taxed, the same as alcohol. Have you forgotten about what “prohibition” did to this country? Making a drug illegal promotes illegal activities, which drive the costs up. Who do you think benefits? The crooks. What happens to us taxpayers when you create more of the “cops and robbers” game? All that happens is that more people are thrown into the prison system for disseminating the drug and for using it. WHO do you think pays for the housing of prisoners? You and I – the taxpayer.

I don’t even smoke the stuff. But, marijuana is a PLANT. God put it here on the planet; the same as tobacco leaves, grapes (used for wine), potatoes (used to make vodka), grain (used to make beer and whiskey), etc. Don’t you get it? It is just a perpetuation of the “cops and robbers” game to subsidize the courts, the police force and the prisons. Learn to look at the WHOLE picture, and the ramifications of what it does to us, the taxpayers.

[...] Pat robertson comes out in favor of legalization Blades, This is huge news. Pat Robertson, host of the 700 club and founder of the "christian coalition", has come out in favor of legalizing marijuana. I can not say how huge this is for our movement. Please check out the story. Shock: Christian Coalition founder Pat Robertson favors marijuana legalization | Raw Story [...]

I just think it’s a shameless attempt to not be the stupidest, most judgmental man alive anymore.

What the hell. I won’t look a gift horse in the mouth. Lets celebrate. I’m gonna buy $40 worth of Jesus and pass it around. (Don’t Bogart that savior my friend).

I just think it’s a shameless attempt to not be the stupidest, most judgmental man alive anymore.

What the hell. I won’t look a gift horse in the mouth. Lets celebrate. I’m gonna buy $40 worth of Jesus and pass it around. (Don’t Bogart that savior my friend).

[...] swear I’m not making this up. Check it out. “It got to be a big deal in campaigns: ‘He’s tough on crime,’ and [...]

Wow, I am *completely* baked.

Not sure how that happened but I must be. You wouldn’t believe what I think this article is about!

Heh-heh, so wasted I am. Better get some sleep…

Wow, I am *completely* baked.

Not sure how that happened but I must be. You wouldn’t believe what I think this article is about!

Heh-heh, so wasted I am. Better get some sleep…

[...] I’m … I’m not exactly for the use of drugs, don’t get me wrong, but I just believe that criminalizing marijuana, criminalizing the possession of a few ounces of pot, that kinda thing it’s just, it’s costing us a fortune and it’s ruining young people. Young people go into prisons, they go in as youths and come out as hardened criminals. That’s not a good thing. SOURCE [...]

I’ll bet that Uncle Tom that sits next to him can roll a mean blunt.

I’ll bet that Uncle Tom that sits next to him can roll a mean blunt.

[...] of America's Christian right movement, has come out in favor of legalizing marijuana. …Shock: Christian Coalition founder Pat Robertson favors marijuana legalizationRaw Storyall 7 news [...]

What’s Pat been smokin’?

What’s Pat been smokin’?

[...] via Shock: Christian Coalition founder Pat Robertson favors marijuana legalization | Raw Story. [...]

Sadly Pat Robertson is more in touch with America than the “progressive” savior Obama, laughable

Sadly Pat Robertson is more in touch with America than the “progressive” savior Obama, laughable

[...] would have ever thought that we’d hear this sort of thing uttered by Pat Robertson: “We’re locking up people that have taken a couple puffs of marijuana and next thing [...]

[...] a Christmas miracle. Conservative minister Pat Robertson made a surprising declaration on a recent episode of The 700 Club: He disagrees with the continued criminalization of [...]

A broken clock is right twice a day. Pat Robertson is a broken digital clock with the date on the front: he’s right once a lifetime. This is that time, so enjoy it.

A broken clock is right twice a day. Pat Robertson is a broken digital clock with the date on the front: he’s right once a lifetime. This is that time, so enjoy it.

Why should a plant that is SAFER than potatoes be regulated and taxed as if it was as dangerous as alcohol? Eating a couple of raw potatoes can give you a toxic reaction but marijuana is nontoxic. LEGALIZE IT BUT DON’T TAX IT the Government gets far too much of our money already and they waste everything they get, then borrow billions more from China. It’s time to take responsibility for your self and raising your own kids. We don’t need a nanny state to tax and regulate everything we do. Marijuana should be legal and the same laws should apply that apply to potatoes… no taxes!

On March 22, 1972 the Richard Nixon-appointed, 13-member National Commission on Marijuana and Drug Abuse recommended the decriminalization of marijuana, concluding, “[Marijuana's] relative potential for harm to the vast majority of individual users and its actual impact on society does not justify a social policy designed to seek out and firmly punish those who use it.”

In 1988, after reviewing all the scientific evidence brought forth in a lengthy lawsuit against the government’s prohibition of medical marijuana, the DEA’s own administrative law judge (Judge Francis Young) wrote:
“MARIJUANA, IN ITS NATURAL FORM, IS ONE OF THE SAFEST THERAPEUTICALLY ACTIVE SUBSTANCES KNOWN. IN STRICT MEDICAL TERMS, MARIJUANA IS SAFER THAN MANY FOODS WE COMMONLY CONSUME.”

Virtually all the drug war propaganda is nothing but pure lies. Marijuana does not cause aggressive behavior. Marijuana does not cause cancer, brain damage or any serious health problems. Marijuana prohibition does not keep kids away from marijuana, illegal dealers don’t ask for ID.

Marijuana and driving: http://peaceandloveism.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4692
Google MARIJUANA DRIVING STUDY. You’ll see 2 common findings:
1. Drivers under the influence of marijuana are SLIGHTLY impaired.
2. Unlike those under the influence of alcohol, marijuana consumers are aware they are SLIGHTLY impaired and they consistently adequately compensate by slowing down a little and being a little more cautious.

The laws prohibiting marijuana are NOT a result of any harm from marijuana. They are the result of racism, lies and greed. Read the well documented proof of that and a lot more marijuana TRUTH in these two articles: “WHY IS MARIJUANA ILLEGAL, Pete Guither” and “MARIJUANA AND HEMP THE UNTOLD STORY, Thomas J. Bouril”, click the links to those articles on this webpage:
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Why should a plant that is SAFER than potatoes be regulated and taxed as if it was as dangerous as alcohol? Eating a couple of raw potatoes can give you a toxic reaction but marijuana is nontoxic. LEGALIZE IT BUT DON’T TAX IT the Government gets far too much of our money already and they waste everything they get, then borrow billions more from China. It’s time to take responsibility for your self and raising your own kids. We don’t need a nanny state to tax and regulate everything we do. Marijuana should be legal and the same laws should apply that apply to potatoes… no taxes!

On March 22, 1972 the Richard Nixon-appointed, 13-member National Commission on Marijuana and Drug Abuse recommended the decriminalization of marijuana, concluding, “[Marijuana's] relative potential for harm to the vast majority of individual users and its actual impact on society does not justify a social policy designed to seek out and firmly punish those who use it.”

In 1988, after reviewing all the scientific evidence brought forth in a lengthy lawsuit against the government’s prohibition of medical marijuana, the DEA’s own administrative law judge (Judge Francis Young) wrote:
“MARIJUANA, IN ITS NATURAL FORM, IS ONE OF THE SAFEST THERAPEUTICALLY ACTIVE SUBSTANCES KNOWN. IN STRICT MEDICAL TERMS, MARIJUANA IS SAFER THAN MANY FOODS WE COMMONLY CONSUME.”

Virtually all the drug war propaganda is nothing but pure lies. Marijuana does not cause aggressive behavior. Marijuana does not cause cancer, brain damage or any serious health problems. Marijuana prohibition does not keep kids away from marijuana, illegal dealers don’t ask for ID.

Marijuana and driving: http://peaceandloveism.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4692
Google MARIJUANA DRIVING STUDY. You’ll see 2 common findings:
1. Drivers under the influence of marijuana are SLIGHTLY impaired.
2. Unlike those under the influence of alcohol, marijuana consumers are aware they are SLIGHTLY impaired and they consistently adequately compensate by slowing down a little and being a little more cautious.

The laws prohibiting marijuana are NOT a result of any harm from marijuana. They are the result of racism, lies and greed. Read the well documented proof of that and a lot more marijuana TRUTH in these two articles: “WHY IS MARIJUANA ILLEGAL, Pete Guither” and “MARIJUANA AND HEMP THE UNTOLD STORY, Thomas J. Bouril”, click the links to those articles on this webpage:
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Please elaborate…

Please elaborate…

no doubt, the good folks at monsanto have got some really bodacious, genetically modified bud ready to go – just don’t ever expect it to create seeds …

as for mr. r, this a just a bit of common sense accidentally seeping through the senility …

no doubt, the good folks at monsanto have got some really bodacious, genetically modified bud ready to go – just don’t ever expect it to create seeds …

as for mr. r, this a just a bit of common sense accidentally seeping through the senility …

oh. yes. That does explain quite a bit. hmmm. Loons, that is the word for them.

oh. yes. That does explain quite a bit. hmmm. Loons, that is the word for them.

I have found that it’s often times more fun to skip the story and go straight to the comments on huffpost.

I actually read this one.

I have found that it’s often times more fun to skip the story and go straight to the comments on huffpost.

I actually read this one.

huh? what does lying and hatespeech have to do with being a stoner?

i think the lying and hate speech have a lot more to do with him being a right wing conservative.

huh? what does lying and hatespeech have to do with being a stoner?

i think the lying and hate speech have a lot more to do with him being a right wing conservative.

He just wants pot smokers sent to his for-profit “marijuana cessation treatment ” centers instead of someone else’s for-profit prisons.

He just wants pot smokers sent to his for-profit “marijuana cessation treatment ” centers instead of someone else’s for-profit prisons.

He just wants pot smokers sent to his for-profit “marijuana cessation treatment ” centers instead of someone else’s for-profit prisons.

He just wants pot smokers sent to his for-profit “marijuana cessation treatment ” centers instead of someone else’s for-profit prisons.

[...] show that advocated the viewpoint of drug law reformers who run prison outreach ministries.http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/shock-christian-leader-pat-robertson-favors-marijuana-legalizatio…http://stash.norml.org/stash-for-wed-dec-22-2010 The Short URL of this blog posting is [...]

Take cuttings, comrade.

Take cuttings, comrade.

Take cuttings, comrade.

Only because he can make some money off it.

Take cuttings, comrade.

Only because he can make some money off it.

Only because he can make some money off it.

BRILLIANT.

BRILLIANT.

BRILLIANT.

BRILLIANT.

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Pat Robertson has made friends/endorsed with quite a few unsavory and unchristian figures/causes in the past, and in every case, it has always been in exchange for some sort of financial windfall without fail. Diamond mines and gold for endorsements of genocidal dictators in Africa, racehorse gambling, rationalizing human rights abuses/compulsory abortions in China for influence, etc. These latest comments indicate that Robertson has yet again discovered a new source of revenue, most likely with certain drug cartel connections.

Pat Robertson has made friends/endorsed with quite a few unsavory and unchristian figures/causes in the past, and in every case, it has always been in exchange for some sort of financial windfall without fail. Diamond mines and gold for endorsements of genocidal dictators in Africa, racehorse gambling, rationalizing human rights abuses/compulsory abortions in China for influence, etc. These latest comments indicate that Robertson has yet again discovered a new source of revenue, most likely with certain drug cartel connections.

Pat Robertson has made friends/endorsed with quite a few unsavory and unchristian figures/causes in the past, and in every case, it has always been in exchange for some sort of financial windfall without fail. Diamond mines and gold for endorsements of genocidal dictators in Africa, racehorse gambling, rationalizing human rights abuses/compulsory abortions in China for influence, etc. These latest comments indicate that Robertson has yet again discovered a new source of revenue, most likely with certain drug cartel connections.

People LIKE to get….er high. Cigarettes, booze…..and pot.

From what I have seen, cigarettes and booze if abused are worse. Pot is probably the mildest.

Weed. All marijuana is….is a weed that makes some people feel good.

A happy pot head does a lot less damage than a mean, rowdy drunk.

Make pot legal, tax it, and have laws against DUI (for when high on pot)…..

This is from a person who drank little and never liked pot. Both still make me sick. {laughing}

People LIKE to get….er high. Cigarettes, booze…..and pot.

From what I have seen, cigarettes and booze if abused are worse. Pot is probably the mildest.

Weed. All marijuana is….is a weed that makes some people feel good.

A happy pot head does a lot less damage than a mean, rowdy drunk.

Make pot legal, tax it, and have laws against DUI (for when high on pot)…..

This is from a person who drank little and never liked pot. Both still make me sick. {laughing}

People LIKE to get….er high. Cigarettes, booze…..and pot.

From what I have seen, cigarettes and booze if abused are worse. Pot is probably the mildest.

Weed. All marijuana is….is a weed that makes some people feel good.

A happy pot head does a lot less damage than a mean, rowdy drunk.

Make pot legal, tax it, and have laws against DUI (for when high on pot)…..

This is from a person who drank little and never liked pot. Both still make me sick. {laughing}

One argument against legalization is that pot is considered a “gateway drug.” What adherents to this argument fail to understand, however, is that there’d be no “gateway” if people weren’t forced to buy pot from drug dealers — who very likely are also selling harder, very addictive drugs. Like prescription pain killers, meth, coke or heroine.

When people can buy pot without having to come in contact with drug dealers and their world, a lot fewer people will find their way to those harder drugs.

One argument against legalization is that pot is considered a “gateway drug.” What adherents to this argument fail to understand, however, is that there’d be no “gateway” if people weren’t forced to buy pot from drug dealers — who very likely are also selling harder, very addictive drugs. Like prescription pain killers, meth, coke or heroine.

When people can buy pot without having to come in contact with drug dealers and their world, a lot fewer people will find their way to those harder drugs.

One argument against legalization is that pot is considered a “gateway drug.” What adherents to this argument fail to understand, however, is that there’d be no “gateway” if people weren’t forced to buy pot from drug dealers — who very likely are also selling harder, very addictive drugs. Like prescription pain killers, meth, coke or heroine.

When people can buy pot without having to come in contact with drug dealers and their world, a lot fewer people will find their way to those harder drugs.

It looks like you bought into the load of hogwash that was spewed by the profiteers that are running most of the medical marijuana shops in CA.

Medical marijuana is NOT legal under prop 215 or prop 420! CA medical laws merely provide a legal defense, they do not legalize marijuana! Prop 19 would have legalized and regulated the RECREATIONAL use of marijuana at the state level for anyone over 21 and made it legal to grow an adequate supply per household. 25 sq ft could have translated into 31 five gallon buckets and prop 19 would have made it legal to keep ALL harvests from your legal garden. Legal not a legal defense!

Since prop 19 would have legalized marijuana for recreational use at the state level, that would have been the end of any legal concerns over possession and cultivation at the state level. You could only transport an ounce at the time but 19 would have made it completely legal at the state level for you to possess all the results from all your harvests in your legal garden. Sales, taxes and retail licenses would have been regulated by the local Governments not the state Government and that would have kept the prices of the products and costs to businesses for licenses competitive between the local Governments and fair.

As far as the Federal Government goes, it’s going to take the states bucking the Feds to ever change the unconstitutional Federal marijuana prohibition. 10 states, including CA ended alcohol prohibition before the Feds did. There has been no amendment to the Constitution to allow Federal marijuana prohibition like there was for alcohol prohibition and that makes Federal marijuana prohibition illegal. The Constitution gives NO authority to the Feds to regulate drug use, that’s why Federal alcohol prohibition required an amendment to the Constitution! Federal marijuana prohibition is a great example of Uncle “Sham” feeding the Nation a huge dose of BS, over stepping its authority and terrorizing the citizens that refuse to comply with unlawful Federal actions! The Constitutional right to freedom of religion, free speech, a free press, to keep and bear arms, to be secure in your person, house, papers and effects against unreasonable search and seizure, to life, liberty and property, to be protected from having your property taken by the government without due process of law and without just compensation, to confront the witnesses against you, to be protected from excessive bail, excessive fines, cruel and unusual punishment, to vote and others have been unjustly denied to tens of millions of Americans in the name of the drug war.

Prop 19 specifically dealt with RECREATIONAL use of marijuana and was plainly worded so that it WOULD NOT affect or change the CA medical laws already in place in any way. Those that claim prop 19 would have affected medical use were either misinformed or intentionally deceiving people in order to get them to vote against 19 and protect the medical marijuana profiteers.

If you want the real truth about prop 19 and the lies about 19 that you obviously believe, read this article posted by NORML: http://www.opposingviews.com/i/marijuana-news-cannybus-lying-about-prop-19

The biggest problem with 19 was that it tried to make marijuana ignorant people feel safe about people driving and working under the influence of marijuana. Instead of just plainly stating the hard core facts that driving and working under the influence of marijuana DOES NOT CAUSE ACCIDENTS, 19 hurt its own efforts by promoting safety measures that are completely unnecessary. Marijuana does not cause people to become dangerous to their self or others and that has been proven in every credible study that has ever been done about how being under the influence of marijuana affects people.
Marijuana and driving: http://peaceandloveism.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4692
Google MARIJUANA DRIVING STUDY. You’ll see 2 common findings:
1. Drivers under the influence of marijuana are SLIGHTLY impaired.
2. Unlike those under the influence of alcohol, marijuana consumers are aware they are SLIGHTLY impaired and they consistently adequately compensate by slowing down a little and being a little more cautious.

LEGALIZE IT BUT DON’T TAX IT! UNCLE “SHAM” GETS FAR TOO MUCH OF OUR MONEY AS IT IS! Marijuana is a natural herb, it is useful as both food and medicine… food and medicine are not taxed! The fact that marijuana makes you feel good is no excuse to tax it and regulate it as if it was as dangerous or as harmful as alcohol! Regulate it like potatoes! Potatoes are far more toxic than marijuana and they are not taxed!

It looks like you bought into the load of hogwash that was spewed by the profiteers that are running most of the medical marijuana shops in CA.

Medical marijuana is NOT legal under prop 215 or prop 420! CA medical laws merely provide a legal defense, they do not legalize marijuana! Prop 19 would have legalized and regulated the RECREATIONAL use of marijuana at the state level for anyone over 21 and made it legal to grow an adequate supply per household. 25 sq ft could have translated into 31 five gallon buckets and prop 19 would have made it legal to keep ALL harvests from your legal garden. Legal not a legal defense!

Since prop 19 would have legalized marijuana for recreational use at the state level, that would have been the end of any legal concerns over possession and cultivation at the state level. You could only transport an ounce at the time but 19 would have made it completely legal at the state level for you to possess all the results from all your harvests in your legal garden. Sales, taxes and retail licenses would have been regulated by the local Governments not the state Government and that would have kept the prices of the products and costs to businesses for licenses competitive between the local Governments and fair.

As far as the Federal Government goes, it’s going to take the states bucking the Feds to ever change the unconstitutional Federal marijuana prohibition. 10 states, including CA ended alcohol prohibition before the Feds did. There has been no amendment to the Constitution to allow Federal marijuana prohibition like there was for alcohol prohibition and that makes Federal marijuana prohibition illegal. The Constitution gives NO authority to the Feds to regulate drug use, that’s why Federal alcohol prohibition required an amendment to the Constitution! Federal marijuana prohibition is a great example of Uncle “Sham” feeding the Nation a huge dose of BS, over stepping its authority and terrorizing the citizens that refuse to comply with unlawful Federal actions! The Constitutional right to freedom of religion, free speech, a free press, to keep and bear arms, to be secure in your person, house, papers and effects against unreasonable search and seizure, to life, liberty and property, to be protected from having your property taken by the government without due process of law and without just compensation, to confront the witnesses against you, to be protected from excessive bail, excessive fines, cruel and unusual punishment, to vote and others have been unjustly denied to tens of millions of Americans in the name of the drug war.

Prop 19 specifically dealt with RECREATIONAL use of marijuana and was plainly worded so that it WOULD NOT affect or change the CA medical laws already in place in any way. Those that claim prop 19 would have affected medical use were either misinformed or intentionally deceiving people in order to get them to vote against 19 and protect the medical marijuana profiteers.

If you want the real truth about prop 19 and the lies about 19 that you obviously believe, read this article posted by NORML: http://www.opposingviews.com/i/marijuana-news-cannybus-lying-about-prop-19

The biggest problem with 19 was that it tried to make marijuana ignorant people feel safe about people driving and working under the influence of marijuana. Instead of just plainly stating the hard core facts that driving and working under the influence of marijuana DOES NOT CAUSE ACCIDENTS, 19 hurt its own efforts by promoting safety measures that are completely unnecessary. Marijuana does not cause people to become dangerous to their self or others and that has been proven in every credible study that has ever been done about how being under the influence of marijuana affects people.
Marijuana and driving: http://peaceandloveism.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4692
Google MARIJUANA DRIVING STUDY. You’ll see 2 common findings:
1. Drivers under the influence of marijuana are SLIGHTLY impaired.
2. Unlike those under the influence of alcohol, marijuana consumers are aware they are SLIGHTLY impaired and they consistently adequately compensate by slowing down a little and being a little more cautious.

LEGALIZE IT BUT DON’T TAX IT! UNCLE “SHAM” GETS FAR TOO MUCH OF OUR MONEY AS IT IS! Marijuana is a natural herb, it is useful as both food and medicine… food and medicine are not taxed! The fact that marijuana makes you feel good is no excuse to tax it and regulate it as if it was as dangerous or as harmful as alcohol! Regulate it like potatoes! Potatoes are far more toxic than marijuana and they are not taxed!

It looks like you bought into the load of hogwash that was spewed by the profiteers that are running most of the medical marijuana shops in CA.

Medical marijuana is NOT legal under prop 215 or prop 420! CA medical laws merely provide a legal defense, they do not legalize marijuana! Prop 19 would have legalized and regulated the RECREATIONAL use of marijuana at the state level for anyone over 21 and made it legal to grow an adequate supply per household. 25 sq ft could have translated into 31 five gallon buckets and prop 19 would have made it legal to keep ALL harvests from your legal garden. Legal not a legal defense!

Since prop 19 would have legalized marijuana for recreational use at the state level, that would have been the end of any legal concerns over possession and cultivation at the state level. You could only transport an ounce at the time but 19 would have made it completely legal at the state level for you to possess all the results from all your harvests in your legal garden. Sales, taxes and retail licenses would have been regulated by the local Governments not the state Government and that would have kept the prices of the products and costs to businesses for licenses competitive between the local Governments and fair.

As far as the Federal Government goes, it’s going to take the states bucking the Feds to ever change the unconstitutional Federal marijuana prohibition. 10 states, including CA ended alcohol prohibition before the Feds did. There has been no amendment to the Constitution to allow Federal marijuana prohibition like there was for alcohol prohibition and that makes Federal marijuana prohibition illegal. The Constitution gives NO authority to the Feds to regulate drug use, that’s why Federal alcohol prohibition required an amendment to the Constitution! Federal marijuana prohibition is a great example of Uncle “Sham” feeding the Nation a huge dose of BS, over stepping its authority and terrorizing the citizens that refuse to comply with unlawful Federal actions! The Constitutional right to freedom of religion, free speech, a free press, to keep and bear arms, to be secure in your person, house, papers and effects against unreasonable search and seizure, to life, liberty and property, to be protected from having your property taken by the government without due process of law and without just compensation, to confront the witnesses against you, to be protected from excessive bail, excessive fines, cruel and unusual punishment, to vote and others have been unjustly denied to tens of millions of Americans in the name of the drug war.

Prop 19 specifically dealt with RECREATIONAL use of marijuana and was plainly worded so that it WOULD NOT affect or change the CA medical laws already in place in any way. Those that claim prop 19 would have affected medical use were either misinformed or intentionally deceiving people in order to get them to vote against 19 and protect the medical marijuana profiteers.

If you want the real truth about prop 19 and the lies about 19 that you obviously believe, read this article posted by NORML: http://www.opposingviews.com/i/marijuana-news-cannybus-lying-about-prop-19

The biggest problem with 19 was that it tried to make marijuana ignorant people feel safe about people driving and working under the influence of marijuana. Instead of just plainly stating the hard core facts that driving and working under the influence of marijuana DOES NOT CAUSE ACCIDENTS, 19 hurt its own efforts by promoting safety measures that are completely unnecessary. Marijuana does not cause people to become dangerous to their self or others and that has been proven in every credible study that has ever been done about how being under the influence of marijuana affects people.
Marijuana and driving: http://peaceandloveism.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4692
Google MARIJUANA DRIVING STUDY. You’ll see 2 common findings:
1. Drivers under the influence of marijuana are SLIGHTLY impaired.
2. Unlike those under the influence of alcohol, marijuana consumers are aware they are SLIGHTLY impaired and they consistently adequately compensate by slowing down a little and being a little more cautious.

LEGALIZE IT BUT DON’T TAX IT! UNCLE “SHAM” GETS FAR TOO MUCH OF OUR MONEY AS IT IS! Marijuana is a natural herb, it is useful as both food and medicine… food and medicine are not taxed! The fact that marijuana makes you feel good is no excuse to tax it and regulate it as if it was as dangerous or as harmful as alcohol! Regulate it like potatoes! Potatoes are far more toxic than marijuana and they are not taxed!

The real gateway drug is alcohol. Nothing lowers your inhibitions more to try a bump of coke or whatever than a few shots of whiskey.

The real gateway drug is alcohol. Nothing lowers your inhibitions more to try a bump of coke or whatever than a few shots of whiskey.

The real gateway drug is alcohol. Nothing lowers your inhibitions more to try a bump of coke or whatever than a few shots of whiskey.

Yes, there will be funding of Christianist drug rehab. All this Faith Based Inituitive funding is nothing more than full employment for the very religous.

Yes, there will be funding of Christianist drug rehab. All this Faith Based Inituitive funding is nothing more than full employment for the very religous.

Yes, there will be funding of Christianist drug rehab. All this Faith Based Inituitive funding is nothing more than full employment for the very religous.

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Glory be……miracles do happen….

Glory be……miracles do happen….

Glory be……miracles do happen….

[...] Shock: Christian Coalition Founder Pat Robertson Favors Marijuana Legalization. Read more  [...]

Holy smoke!

Holy smoke!

Holy smoke!

You make a pretty good point yet, in my experience, people sell pot because they are either morally opposed to hard drugs or they are put off by the violence and long sentences. As a cash business pot provides a bulky, less profitable product, one that is pungently hard to conceal and high-maintenance to produce. Marijuana would not be the first product of choice for a more hardened drug dealer. In short, not all drug dealers are cut from the same cloth and exposure to the pot world is far from a guarantee of exposure to harder drugs.

Anyway, the real gateway drug is alcohol as it lowers inhibitions and is so prevalent. Plus, practically anyone trying pot has already had experiences with alcohol. By the logic of the gateway argument, liquor should be considered the real gateway drug if only for leading to future marijuana use.

You make a pretty good point yet, in my experience, people sell pot because they are either morally opposed to hard drugs or they are put off by the violence and long sentences. As a cash business pot provides a bulky, less profitable product, one that is pungently hard to conceal and high-maintenance to produce. Marijuana would not be the first product of choice for a more hardened drug dealer. In short, not all drug dealers are cut from the same cloth and exposure to the pot world is far from a guarantee of exposure to harder drugs.

Anyway, the real gateway drug is alcohol as it lowers inhibitions and is so prevalent. Plus, practically anyone trying pot has already had experiences with alcohol. By the logic of the gateway argument, liquor should be considered the real gateway drug if only for leading to future marijuana use.

You make a pretty good point yet, in my experience, people sell pot because they are either morally opposed to hard drugs or they are put off by the violence and long sentences. As a cash business pot provides a bulky, less profitable product, one that is pungently hard to conceal and high-maintenance to produce. Marijuana would not be the first product of choice for a more hardened drug dealer. In short, not all drug dealers are cut from the same cloth and exposure to the pot world is far from a guarantee of exposure to harder drugs.

Anyway, the real gateway drug is alcohol as it lowers inhibitions and is so prevalent. Plus, practically anyone trying pot has already had experiences with alcohol. By the logic of the gateway argument, liquor should be considered the real gateway drug if only for leading to future marijuana use.

I completely agree. Yet I still remember the 80′s anti-pot/anti-drug hysteria and am personally prepared to thank the Gods of common sense for whatever terms enable marijuana to be legalized. Small price as far as I’m concerned.

I completely agree. Yet I still remember the 80′s anti-pot/anti-drug hysteria and am personally prepared to thank the Gods of common sense for whatever terms enable marijuana to be legalized. Small price as far as I’m concerned.

I completely agree. Yet I still remember the 80′s anti-pot/anti-drug hysteria and am personally prepared to thank the Gods of common sense for whatever terms enable marijuana to be legalized. Small price as far as I’m concerned.

I like the phrase “smart on crime.” Let the conservatives run with that…

I like the phrase “smart on crime.” Let the conservatives run with that…

I like the phrase “smart on crime.” Let the conservatives run with that…

The marijuana growers aren’t in favor of legalization, they were instrumental in defeating Prop 19 in California.

The marijuana growers aren’t in favor of legalization, they were instrumental in defeating Prop 19 in California.

The marijuana growers aren’t in favor of legalization, they were instrumental in defeating Prop 19 in California.

Just checked and yep, there is indeed the first signs of a thin layer of ice covering hell. Amazing.

Just checked and yep, there is indeed the first signs of a thin layer of ice covering hell. Amazing.

Just checked and yep, there is indeed the first signs of a thin layer of ice covering hell. Amazing.

[...] closing the year with something that absolutely shocked me when I heard about it.  He has come out against the War on Drugs, or at least against mandatory minimum sentences for marijuana offenses.  As a Christian who has [...]

I believe that DUI laws are not geared at just alcohol, but driving while under the influence of any substance. People that have been in accidents because of too much prescription drugs in their system can also be charged with a DUI.

But even if not abused, cigarettes would still be responsible for more deaths that grass; in fact there has never been a case of anyone dying as a direct result of having THC in their system (unless you also add stupidity to that equation, but alcohol would still beat it out).

When was the last time that you ever heard of someone being driven into a rage as a result of having too much pot in their system? Shit, ‘too much’ pot in the system may cause someone to attack a pizza, but too much alcohol, well that is a different animal altogether.

But in the name of protecting the livelihoods and profits of the pharmaceutical industry, let’s keep pot illegal and alcohol legal. After all, more money can be made from drugs that deal with cirrhosis of the liver than from a bottle of Visine. Profits over reason, it is the american [sic] way.

I believe that DUI laws are not geared at just alcohol, but driving while under the influence of any substance. People that have been in accidents because of too much prescription drugs in their system can also be charged with a DUI.

But even if not abused, cigarettes would still be responsible for more deaths that grass; in fact there has never been a case of anyone dying as a direct result of having THC in their system (unless you also add stupidity to that equation, but alcohol would still beat it out).

When was the last time that you ever heard of someone being driven into a rage as a result of having too much pot in their system? Shit, ‘too much’ pot in the system may cause someone to attack a pizza, but too much alcohol, well that is a different animal altogether.

But in the name of protecting the livelihoods and profits of the pharmaceutical industry, let’s keep pot illegal and alcohol legal. After all, more money can be made from drugs that deal with cirrhosis of the liver than from a bottle of Visine. Profits over reason, it is the american [sic] way.

I believe that DUI laws are not geared at just alcohol, but driving while under the influence of any substance. People that have been in accidents because of too much prescription drugs in their system can also be charged with a DUI.

But even if not abused, cigarettes would still be responsible for more deaths that grass; in fact there has never been a case of anyone dying as a direct result of having THC in their system (unless you also add stupidity to that equation, but alcohol would still beat it out).

When was the last time that you ever heard of someone being driven into a rage as a result of having too much pot in their system? Shit, ‘too much’ pot in the system may cause someone to attack a pizza, but too much alcohol, well that is a different animal altogether.

But in the name of protecting the livelihoods and profits of the pharmaceutical industry, let’s keep pot illegal and alcohol legal. After all, more money can be made from drugs that deal with cirrhosis of the liver than from a bottle of Visine. Profits over reason, it is the american [sic] way.

I appreciate and agree with what you are saying, but alcohol is no less of a gateway drug than pot. It is FAR more available to younger people who, once hey experience the first ‘highs’ of some booze may then want to try something a little harder to see how far they can go.

I am of the opinion ( and I have no data, nor do I know anyone in case the Narcs are monitoring this) that there are two types of dealers: The old (or possibly new) hippies that extol the virtues of a little maryjane and see it as a cottage industry, and the ilk that is more interested in the vile shit like meth, coke, or heroin and the massive profits that these drugs can bring from the addicts that will do ANYTHING to get their next hit. However there might also be a hybrid of the two also.

But like I always say: up with HOPE, down with DOPE.

I appreciate and agree with what you are saying, but alcohol is no less of a gateway drug than pot. It is FAR more available to younger people who, once hey experience the first ‘highs’ of some booze may then want to try something a little harder to see how far they can go.

I am of the opinion ( and I have no data, nor do I know anyone in case the Narcs are monitoring this) that there are two types of dealers: The old (or possibly new) hippies that extol the virtues of a little maryjane and see it as a cottage industry, and the ilk that is more interested in the vile shit like meth, coke, or heroin and the massive profits that these drugs can bring from the addicts that will do ANYTHING to get their next hit. However there might also be a hybrid of the two also.

But like I always say: up with HOPE, down with DOPE.

I appreciate and agree with what you are saying, but alcohol is no less of a gateway drug than pot. It is FAR more available to younger people who, once hey experience the first ‘highs’ of some booze may then want to try something a little harder to see how far they can go.

I am of the opinion ( and I have no data, nor do I know anyone in case the Narcs are monitoring this) that there are two types of dealers: The old (or possibly new) hippies that extol the virtues of a little maryjane and see it as a cottage industry, and the ilk that is more interested in the vile shit like meth, coke, or heroin and the massive profits that these drugs can bring from the addicts that will do ANYTHING to get their next hit. However there might also be a hybrid of the two also.

But like I always say: up with HOPE, down with DOPE.

I appreciate and agree with what you are saying, but alcohol is no less of a gateway drug than pot. It is FAR more available to younger people who, once hey experience the first ‘highs’ of some booze may then want to try something a little harder to see how far they can go.

I am of the opinion ( and I have no data, nor do I know anyone in case the Narcs are monitoring this) that there are two types of dealers: The old (or possibly new) hippies that extol the virtues of a little maryjane and see it as a cottage industry, and the ilk that is more interested in the vile shit like meth, coke, or heroin and the massive profits that these drugs can bring from the addicts that will do ANYTHING to get their next hit. However there might also be a hybrid of the two also.

But like I always say: up with HOPE, down with DOPE.

I’m curious if you have an article to that effect that you can send us a link on.

I’m curious if you have an article to that effect that you can send us a link on.

I’m curious if you have an article to that effect that you can send us a link on.

I’m curious if you have an article to that effect that you can send us a link on.

So… he’s still an asshole

nothin could ever make up for the damage he’s done

So… he’s still an asshole

nothin could ever make up for the damage he’s done

So… he’s still an asshole

nothin could ever make up for the damage he’s done

So… he’s still an asshole

nothin could ever make up for the damage he’s done

HP sucks. They flag everything that even has the slightest appearance of being naughty. Plus too many pussies over there that want to say how beautiful we all are try to send out their ‘positive vibe’ so everyone can truly see how hard Obama is working as he continues to bargain away the ideals of his own party.

Only downside to this site (for the time being) is that you don’t know if someone has replied to a post you wrote unless you go back through each article and check – their email notification system here is less than ideal.

HP sucks. They flag everything that even has the slightest appearance of being naughty. Plus too many pussies over there that want to say how beautiful we all are try to send out their ‘positive vibe’ so everyone can truly see how hard Obama is working as he continues to bargain away the ideals of his own party.

Only downside to this site (for the time being) is that you don’t know if someone has replied to a post you wrote unless you go back through each article and check – their email notification system here is less than ideal.

HP sucks. They flag everything that even has the slightest appearance of being naughty. Plus too many pussies over there that want to say how beautiful we all are try to send out their ‘positive vibe’ so everyone can truly see how hard Obama is working as he continues to bargain away the ideals of his own party.

Only downside to this site (for the time being) is that you don’t know if someone has replied to a post you wrote unless you go back through each article and check – their email notification system here is less than ideal.

HP sucks. They flag everything that even has the slightest appearance of being naughty. Plus too many pussies over there that want to say how beautiful we all are try to send out their ‘positive vibe’ so everyone can truly see how hard Obama is working as he continues to bargain away the ideals of his own party.

Only downside to this site (for the time being) is that you don’t know if someone has replied to a post you wrote unless you go back through each article and check – their email notification system here is less than ideal.

Hay Mona …you seen Tony Sfacheem ?

Hay Mona …you seen Tony Sfacheem ?

Hay Mona …you seen Tony Sfacheem ?

Who cares? As long as he passes it around.

Who cares? As long as he passes it around.

Who cares? As long as he passes it around.

Who cares? As long as he passes it around.

You aren’t trying to bring racist mojo to our little party are you? That would be a real bummer man.

You aren’t trying to bring racist mojo to our little party are you? That would be a real bummer man.

You aren’t trying to bring racist mojo to our little party are you? That would be a real bummer man.

You aren’t trying to bring racist mojo to our little party are you? That would be a real bummer man.

[...] figures of America’s Christian right movement, has come out in favor of legalizing marijuana. Read The Full Story Comments closed | Trackback [...]

Jesus Lives! I’m atheist, BTW! But WTF!

Jesus Lives! I’m atheist, BTW! But WTF!

Jesus Lives! I’m atheist, BTW! But WTF!

Jesus Lives! I’m atheist, BTW! But WTF!

Make the weed legal and then up the penalties of the mean shit like meth, coke and heroin to a life sentence of some real had labor; even if it is just minor possession. We have highways that need to be rebuilt, canals dug, etc. This is what we should be doing with most convicts anyway (except the white collar criminals, they should be cleaning out sewers).

Make the weed legal and then up the penalties of the mean shit like meth, coke and heroin to a life sentence of some real had labor; even if it is just minor possession. We have highways that need to be rebuilt, canals dug, etc. This is what we should be doing with most convicts anyway (except the white collar criminals, they should be cleaning out sewers).

Make the weed legal and then up the penalties of the mean shit like meth, coke and heroin to a life sentence of some real had labor; even if it is just minor possession. We have highways that need to be rebuilt, canals dug, etc. This is what we should be doing with most convicts anyway (except the white collar criminals, they should be cleaning out sewers).

Make the weed legal and then up the penalties of the mean shit like meth, coke and heroin to a life sentence of some real had labor; even if it is just minor possession. We have highways that need to be rebuilt, canals dug, etc. This is what we should be doing with most convicts anyway (except the white collar criminals, they should be cleaning out sewers).

Alcohol comes a distant second, after tobacco, as a gateway drug. New studies have shown tobacco causes changes to the brain structure that increases the propensity for addiction. But I like the way you think :P

Alcohol comes a distant second, after tobacco, as a gateway drug. New studies have shown tobacco causes changes to the brain structure that increases the propensity for addiction. But I like the way you think :P

Alcohol comes a distant second, after tobacco, as a gateway drug. New studies have shown tobacco causes changes to the brain structure that increases the propensity for addiction. But I like the way you think :P

Alcohol comes a distant second, after tobacco, as a gateway drug. New studies have shown tobacco causes changes to the brain structure that increases the propensity for addiction. But I like the way you think :P

I agree that alcohol is a gateway drug, but it comes second after tobacco.

I agree that alcohol is a gateway drug, but it comes second after tobacco.

I agree that alcohol is a gateway drug, but it comes second after tobacco.

It helps with the rheumatism.

It helps with the rheumatism.

It helps with the rheumatism.

It helps with the rheumatism.

[...] you know that “Rev.” Pat Robertson supports legalization of marijuana? “We’re locking up people that have taken a couple puffs of marijuana and next thing you [...]

On this particular point, I can not disagree with you. Of course Obama is out of touch with a lot of his original base, but that is why we have elections.

On this particular point, I can not disagree with you. Of course Obama is out of touch with a lot of his original base, but that is why we have elections.

On this particular point, I can not disagree with you. Of course Obama is out of touch with a lot of his original base, but that is why we have elections.

On this particular point, I can not disagree with you. Of course Obama is out of touch with a lot of his original base, but that is why we have elections.

I never thought that I would say this: Pat Robertson is Right.

The entire phony “War on Drugs” is, in reality, a war upon the poor.

The fact that cannabis remains illegal is a national shame; the fact that we promote that destructive policy around demonstrates a national commitment to idiocy.

I welcome Pat Robertson to this inter-generational struggle against America’s most glaring act of self-destruction. Drug war has cost Americans very precious, formerly constitutionally protected, liberties. I will make any alliance to see that this absurdity does not cost the lives of another generation of Americans, for reasons that make sense to nobody.

Sincerely,

Joey Tranchina, M.A.
California Drug Policy Reform Coalition (CDPRC)
working for the health & wholeness of all Americans, since 1989

I never thought that I would say this: Pat Robertson is Right.

The entire phony “War on Drugs” is, in reality, a war upon the poor.

The fact that cannabis remains illegal is a national shame; the fact that we promote that destructive policy around demonstrates a national commitment to idiocy.

I welcome Pat Robertson to this inter-generational struggle against America’s most glaring act of self-destruction. Drug war has cost Americans very precious, formerly constitutionally protected, liberties. I will make any alliance to see that this absurdity does not cost the lives of another generation of Americans, for reasons that make sense to nobody.

Sincerely,

Joey Tranchina, M.A.
California Drug Policy Reform Coalition (CDPRC)
working for the health & wholeness of all Americans, since 1989

I never thought that I would say this: Pat Robertson is Right.

The entire phony “War on Drugs” is, in reality, a war upon the poor.

The fact that cannabis remains illegal is a national shame; the fact that we promote that destructive policy around demonstrates a national commitment to idiocy.

I welcome Pat Robertson to this inter-generational struggle against America’s most glaring act of self-destruction. Drug war has cost Americans very precious, formerly constitutionally protected, liberties. I will make any alliance to see that this absurdity does not cost the lives of another generation of Americans, for reasons that make sense to nobody.

Sincerely,

Joey Tranchina, M.A.
California Drug Policy Reform Coalition (CDPRC)
working for the health & wholeness of all Americans, since 1989

I never thought that I would say this: Pat Robertson is Right.

The entire phony “War on Drugs” is, in reality, a war upon the poor.

The fact that cannabis remains illegal is a national shame; the fact that we promote that destructive policy around demonstrates a national commitment to idiocy.

I welcome Pat Robertson to this inter-generational struggle against America’s most glaring act of self-destruction. Drug war has cost Americans very precious, formerly constitutionally protected, liberties. I will make any alliance to see that this absurdity does not cost the lives of another generation of Americans, for reasons that make sense to nobody.

Sincerely,

Joey Tranchina, M.A.
California Drug Policy Reform Coalition (CDPRC)
working for the health & wholeness of all Americans, since 1989

Pass the bong Pat..don’t bogart dude!

There does not exist a test to determine if a driver is stone. Driving stone is no worse than driving distracted and is certainly better than driving on many prescription drugs.
DUI for pot is unenforcible.

Harm reduction tactics are a better solution to the HEALTH issue of addition. All the drugs should be available from your local pharmacy. Anyone should have rehab available when they are ready and willing to quit. With alcohol, not all users are alcoholics. Likewise, moderate drug use would be the norm.

Oh my God, has Pat seen the light, he must know God put everything on earth and the heavens for a reason, he probably just started lighting up, and saw no problem with it, plus the Evils of Alcohol( the worst drug on the planet) and Cigarettes one of the biggest killer, both legal. Pat, please get the word out, use your T.V. channel to tell the people the truth. Plus all the kids who get busted for weed and it stays on their records and follows them around like Marley’s Ghost on Christmas Eve. for the rest of their lives, effecting employment and housing and a lot more!

Am I to believe Robertson hasn’t been a vocal proponent of all this “tough on crime” crap that he now criticizes? I don’t hear him saying he was wrong. And I don’t hear him apologizing to anybody who was locked up because of people like him who’ve been screaming for retribution for the last 30 years.

And could this sudden change of heart have anything to do with Robertson’s commercial interests? Aside from the donations flowing into something like Right On Crime, I wonder how many tax dollars Robertson expects to collect through “treatment centers” that are (most likely) tied directly to Robertson’s little financial empire.

Pat Robertson is a cynical fraud, and if you buy into anything he has to say, then you’re a sucker, and you deserve to be picked clean.

I know plenty of 40- and 50-something pot smokers. Successful business people, gainfully employed, the whole gamut. If pot is the gateway drug that anti-drug warriors keep claiming, how come I don’t know plenty of 40- and 50-something heroin addicts.

[...] For once. [...]

Actually, legalization and being against the Drug War are truly bi-partisan. The injustice of it is plain to the entire political spectrum. It is a mistake to assume that the people on the right are pro-Drug War. It is actually a long standing Libertarian stand fro people to be free with what they choose to ingest. Keep in mind, that it is the Democrats that are protecting the status quo now as well as escalating the the Drug War across the border.

He’s still an asshole. He’s always been a lying, deceitful, morally vacant asshole. He’s god’s asshole on earth. No terrorist has done more damage to Americans than this slimy, sleaze ball has done. You can bet he sees an angle to get more tax money for his evil little empire in this somewhere.

He’s still an asshole. He’s always been a lying, deceitful, morally vacant asshole. He’s god’s asshole on earth. No terrorist has done more damage to Americans than this slimy, sleaze ball has done. You can bet he sees an angle to get more tax money for his evil little empire in this somewhere.

He’s still an asshole. He’s always been a lying, deceitful, morally vacant asshole. He’s god’s asshole on earth. No terrorist has done more damage to Americans than this slimy, sleaze ball has done. You can bet he sees an angle to get more tax money for his evil little empire in this somewhere.

Why was pot criminalized? Who gained by it? Was it ever a public menace like alcohol or tobbaco?

Hemp stood in someone’s way and even though our founding fathers nearly all grew hemp for its usefulness it was criminalized. Why? Someone stood to make lots of money if it ceased being used.

Many people still make lots of money by it being criminalized still. It is the major cash crop in several states of the union and it keeps the Bureau Of Prisons filled with income generating inmates.

Since this country is far more engrossed in Mammon versus doing what is best for the citizenry at large, money will remain the motivation behind criminalizing behavior.

Remember that large scale drug buys are not financed by poor people but rather by rich ones who feel impelled to become richer since that is the sole mark of success in this nation.

Doing what is good for all is derided as being misguided since it fails to ensure the rich are made richer. The right wing persistently spits on anyone they claim is a dogooder. I gues their theory is that doing evil is the best one can hope for the nation.

Why was pot criminalized? Who gained by it? Was it ever a public menace like alcohol or tobbaco?

Hemp stood in someone’s way and even though our founding fathers nearly all grew hemp for its usefulness it was criminalized. Why? Someone stood to make lots of money if it ceased being used.

Many people still make lots of money by it being criminalized still. It is the major cash crop in several states of the union and it keeps the Bureau Of Prisons filled with income generating inmates.

Since this country is far more engrossed in Mammon versus doing what is best for the citizenry at large, money will remain the motivation behind criminalizing behavior.

Remember that large scale drug buys are not financed by poor people but rather by rich ones who feel impelled to become richer since that is the sole mark of success in this nation.

Doing what is good for all is derided as being misguided since it fails to ensure the rich are made richer. The right wing persistently spits on anyone they claim is a dogooder. I gues their theory is that doing evil is the best one can hope for the nation.

Why was pot criminalized? Who gained by it? Was it ever a public menace like alcohol or tobbaco?

Hemp stood in someone’s way and even though our founding fathers nearly all grew hemp for its usefulness it was criminalized. Why? Someone stood to make lots of money if it ceased being used.

Many people still make lots of money by it being criminalized still. It is the major cash crop in several states of the union and it keeps the Bureau Of Prisons filled with income generating inmates.

Since this country is far more engrossed in Mammon versus doing what is best for the citizenry at large, money will remain the motivation behind criminalizing behavior.

Remember that large scale drug buys are not financed by poor people but rather by rich ones who feel impelled to become richer since that is the sole mark of success in this nation.

Doing what is good for all is derided as being misguided since it fails to ensure the rich are made richer. The right wing persistently spits on anyone they claim is a dogooder. I gues their theory is that doing evil is the best one can hope for the nation.

next thing you know, they’ll be in favor of the poor….do people of his ilk really have a conscience…Undoing the wrong? tacking with the wind. Maybe we aren’t far off from that magical event after all…the end of the world, helped along by a “backsliding evangelical”. I suspect he wants us on that “slippery slope”..Hey dufus, ya got beat by reagan the magician the furterance of drug stupidity was assured. Legalize weed and get over yourselves {BTW Reagan closed the Public Health System during his tenure. I remember the savings for closing regional VA-h like complexes were supposed to be about 12 mil. Sure could use the help during these “Non-wars” the country is pursuing.] sez johnrokkit

next thing you know, they’ll be in favor of the poor….do people of his ilk really have a conscience…Undoing the wrong? tacking with the wind. Maybe we aren’t far off from that magical event after all…the end of the world, helped along by a “backsliding evangelical”. I suspect he wants us on that “slippery slope”..Hey dufus, ya got beat by reagan the magician the furterance of drug stupidity was assured. Legalize weed and get over yourselves {BTW Reagan closed the Public Health System during his tenure. I remember the savings for closing regional VA-h like complexes were supposed to be about 12 mil. Sure could use the help during these “Non-wars” the country is pursuing.] sez johnrokkit

next thing you know, they’ll be in favor of the poor….do people of his ilk really have a conscience…Undoing the wrong? tacking with the wind. Maybe we aren’t far off from that magical event after all…the end of the world, helped along by a “backsliding evangelical”. I suspect he wants us on that “slippery slope”..Hey dufus, ya got beat by reagan the magician the furterance of drug stupidity was assured. Legalize weed and get over yourselves {BTW Reagan closed the Public Health System during his tenure. I remember the savings for closing regional VA-h like complexes were supposed to be about 12 mil. Sure could use the help during these “Non-wars” the country is pursuing.] sez johnrokkit

He’s still an asshole. He’s always been a lying, deceitful, morally vacant asshole. He’s god’s asshole on earth. No terrorist has done more damage to Americans than this slimy, sleaze ball has done. You can bet he sees an angle to get more tax money for his evil little empire in this somewhere.

He’s still an asshole. He’s always been a lying, deceitful, morally vacant asshole. He’s god’s asshole on earth. No terrorist has done more damage to Americans than this slimy, sleaze ball has done. You can bet he sees an angle to get more tax money for his evil little empire in this somewhere.

He’s still an asshole. He’s always been a lying, deceitful, morally vacant asshole. He’s god’s asshole on earth. No terrorist has done more damage to Americans than this slimy, sleaze ball has done. You can bet he sees an angle to get more tax money for his evil little empire in this somewhere.

[...] – Pat Robertson, 700 Club founder, arguing for legalization of marijuana possission. [...]

Free Market Hemp supporters could vote as a block, a solid 5 percent and give our vote to any candidate from any party that will vote to end prohibition. In the upcoming elections, 5 percent will determine the ball game. The Tea Party is for Free Market Hemp because it can replace oil as a source of fuel and create millions of jobs all across the land. Plant It Everywhere, We the people can grow our way out of the economic hell the politicians and business community has ginned up.

Free Market Hemp supporters could vote as a block, a solid 5 percent and give our vote to any candidate from any party that will vote to end prohibition. In the upcoming elections, 5 percent will determine the ball game. The Tea Party is for Free Market Hemp because it can replace oil as a source of fuel and create millions of jobs all across the land. Plant It Everywhere, We the people can grow our way out of the economic hell the politicians and business community has ginned up.

I’ll be glad to shake Pat’s hand and thank him for his efforts in this regard. Sure I disagree with most everything else he stands for, but the history of this country has been driven by the progress made when people who agree about one good thing overlook their differences to make it happen.

I’ll be glad to shake Pat’s hand and thank him for his efforts in this regard. Sure I disagree with most everything else he stands for, but the history of this country has been driven by the progress made when people who agree about one good thing overlook their differences to make it happen.

If he gets his wisdom from god, why is he so slow to learn?

If he gets his wisdom from god, why is he so slow to learn?

[...] 23, 2010 by eliwrites Finally!  Pat Robertson: We’re locking up people that have taken a couple puffs of marijuana and next thing you know [...]

LOLOLOOOLOOOL>……don’t get me wrong…I agree with Mr. Robertson…there are a number of benefits to legalizing marijuana….top on the list would be the tax dollars derived, but is it just me or do others see the hypocricy with Mr. Robertston’s manipulation of his prior preaching against the use of marijuana or even cigarettes for that matter. It is ok to ingest smoke as long as it is getting you high??? LOLOLOL.

LOLOLOOOLOOOL>……don’t get me wrong…I agree with Mr. Robertson…there are a number of benefits to legalizing marijuana….top on the list would be the tax dollars derived, but is it just me or do others see the hypocricy with Mr. Robertston’s manipulation of his prior preaching against the use of marijuana or even cigarettes for that matter. It is ok to ingest smoke as long as it is getting you high??? LOLOLOL.

[...] via Shock: Christian Coalition founder Pat Robertson favors marijuana legalization | Raw Story. [...]

“Why was pot criminalized? Who gained by it? ”

Cotton growers in the south. Hemp makes superior fabric and ropes.

“Why was pot criminalized? Who gained by it? ”

Cotton growers in the south. Hemp makes superior fabric and ropes.

Why couldn’t it be someone with more credibility..?

Why couldn’t it be someone with more credibility..?

Of course. He will start to sell “prayer pipes.”

Of course. He will start to sell “prayer pipes.”

I have to say I am impressed. I guess anyone can learn and maybe we call all do better in the future. This is truly a ray of hope.

I have to say I am impressed. I guess anyone can learn and maybe we call all do better in the future. This is truly a ray of hope.

It is your last sentence that got my attention….so very true.

It is your last sentence that got my attention….so very true.

It is your last sentence that got my attention….so very true.

It is your last sentence that got my attention….so very true.

[...] criminals. That's not a good thing." Later it was discovered that black is now white. Shock: Christian Coalition founder Pat Robertson favors marijuana legalization | Raw Story Blog: http://libertarianblue.blogspot.com/ My cynicism and negativity will continue until I [...]

That rare moment of honesty in his life…..so true.!

That rare moment of honesty in his life…..so true.!

That rare moment of honesty in his life…..so true.!

That rare moment of honesty in his life…..so true.!

Just saw a pig fly over my house.

Just saw a pig fly over my house.

Just saw a pig fly over my house.

Monsantos’ frankenseeds will NOT contaminate our seeds- of any sort…

Monsantos’ frankenseeds will NOT contaminate our seeds- of any sort…

Monsantos’ frankenseeds will NOT contaminate our seeds- of any sort…

I completely agree….!

I completely agree….!

I completely agree….!

I completely agree….!

Has anyone checked to see if there is a picture of Pat under “hypocrite” at Wikipedia? He would not be saying this unless he has figured out a way to cash in somehow.

Has anyone checked to see if there is a picture of Pat under “hypocrite” at Wikipedia? He would not be saying this unless he has figured out a way to cash in somehow.

Has anyone checked to see if there is a picture of Pat under “hypocrite” at Wikipedia? He would not be saying this unless he has figured out a way to cash in somehow.

Has anyone checked to see if there is a picture of Pat under “hypocrite” at Wikipedia? He would not be saying this unless he has figured out a way to cash in somehow.

It’s about time conservatives recognized the economic impact of chaining millions of people who use this medicinal herb to a life-time stigma of being a social outcast. How can the economy remain strong when so many people are being forced into the criminal justice system and given a stigma that will make it hard for them to find employment?

It’s about time conservatives recognized the economic impact of chaining millions of people who use this medicinal herb to a life-time stigma of being a social outcast. How can the economy remain strong when so many people are being forced into the criminal justice system and given a stigma that will make it hard for them to find employment?

It’s about time conservatives recognized the economic impact of chaining millions of people who use this medicinal herb to a life-time stigma of being a social outcast. How can the economy remain strong when so many people are being forced into the criminal justice system and given a stigma that will make it hard for them to find employment?

It’s about time conservatives recognized the economic impact of chaining millions of people who use this medicinal herb to a life-time stigma of being a social outcast. How can the economy remain strong when so many people are being forced into the criminal justice system and given a stigma that will make it hard for them to find employment?

Well, well, well.

[...] turns out to be more religious than neocon, at least in the area of marijuana. He now advocates legalization. Pat, now you need a heart-to-heart with Ron Paul on other drugs, and war, too. Bookmark/Share [...]

absolutely. It is very funny to listen to Robertson say legalize and Our Boy Obama saying no, no, no

Meh. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

I don’t believe that the cotton growers had that much political power in the era in which hemp was criminalized. Rumor has it that Dupont was the prime mover behind it but I have no seen any definitive proof of that. In any case hemp cloth and cotton were sold side by side for more than a century before it was determined that pot was to be demonized and criminalized. Pot users were a tiny minority and since no one was making a fortune out of hemp usage during the first half of the 20th century, no constituency existed to fight off criminalization.

There is no logical excuse for the criminalization but unless the profit motive is removed it will remain criminalized. Too many agencies are generously funded in the losing war to stop pot usage. They will not gladly give up all that money and cease their ineffective interdiction efforts. Once a cash flow stream is started it acn only be stopped easily if it is a mere trickle. A copious flow is very hard to stop.

YOU’RE LATE!

I always thought legalizing pot sounded reasonable. Now that Pat Robinson agrees, I may have to reexamine my position.

[...] in eventful, jam-packed 2010, this has to be the shocker of the year: Pat Robertson has come out in favor of decriminalizing marijuana. Robertson, one of the founders [...]

[...] such as earthquakes on Satan and sinners. So, no one could have predicted Robertson would come out in favor of decriminalizing marijuana. But he has done just that, saying on a recent show that locking our [...]

I don’t think that Pat knows that pot turns Republicans into Democrats: it is dangerous stuff indeed.

Unfortunately, pot prohibition is a HUGE industry from the law enforcement to prisons to high tech gear able to detect growing plants. Like the corn industry, it is an immense boondoggle with an enormous entrenched advocacy system and armies of lobbyists.

[...] the 700 Club, broadcast by the CBN Network. (Segment on marijuana law reform is at beginning.) via Shock: Christian Coalition founder Pat Robertson favors marijuana legalization | Raw Story. Share and [...]

The logic of decriminalizing pot has not changed since my youth in the 60′s. It is humorous to now be hearing that it is relatively harmless, instead of the road to perdition that it used to be called.

After all these years, I knew Robertson was smoking something….

[...] Pat Robertson is known for his wacky positions on global politics and his on-the-fringe Christian beliefs. But here is a position I never thought he would espouse. He is pro-pot: “We’re locking up people that have taken a couple puffs of marijuana and next thing you know they’ve got 10 years with mandatory sentences,” Robertson continued. “These judges just say, they throw up their hands and say nothing we can do with these mandatory sentences. We’ve got to take a look at what we’re considering crimes and that’s one of ‘em. [...]

[...] http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/shock-christian-leader-pat-robertson-favors-marijuana-legalizatio... 24. Dec, 2010 [...]

as a bigoted parasite, you can be certain pat has invested in a pot farm. after all he invested in a diamond mine with murderer/ dictator charles taylor. for those that are unaware, if your stupid enough to donate ten thousand dollars to pat robertson, he will personally share a stock tip with you. what a guy.

That’s the first rational thought this man has had in years.

That’s the first rational thought this man has had in years.

Sheesh you guys.Im a conservative but a not a Pat Robertson fan.Anyway,give the guy some credit for coming around.You lefties want to continually bash him as opposed to giving credit where credit is due.Just be thankful and move on.

Sheesh you guys.Im a conservative but a not a Pat Robertson fan.Anyway,give the guy some credit for coming around.You lefties want to continually bash him as opposed to giving credit where credit is due.Just be thankful and move on.

My guess the hypo-christan found some way to make money on it with child labor like the FAKE does with his dimond mines in Afriica . Idot SHEEPOLES that follow this moron fake SOB I pitty!

[...] onboard the "we've got to stop arresting people for pot" train. Holy smokes, indeed! Shock: Christian Coalition founder Pat Robertson favors marijuana legalization | Raw Story __________________ [...]

I agree. Give the man some credit for being able to admit he’s wrong and in a very public forum, change his mind and sensibly explain why. It’s usually the people who have been ill and get relief from marijuana who change their minds about calling a plant a “drug” and criminalizing it with rigid and harsh prison sentences. The only people who have a stake in keeping marijuana illegal are the police (justifies their existence) and the prison-corporate complex (keep private prisons full and giving shareholders and return on their investment AND providing even cheaper labor than that of illegal immigrants to the corporations).

Crap!! That takes all the fun out of now. Jesus Christ!

[...] popular evangelical television show “700 Club,” Pat Robertson, has come out in favor of de-criminalizing marijuana. This is shocking, and to be honest, I never would have expected it: “I’m … [...]

Some of you missed my point: There are no gateway drugs. There ARE gateway people and situations that may lead one to addictive drugs. Take away those people and situations and you reduce the possibility of contact with those drugs. It’s the illegal status of pot that makes contact with drug people and the drug world more likely.

Also, addiction itself is not a “gateway” to other addictions, as some of you seem to believe. Cigarette smokers are addicts, but I think you’d be hard pressed to establish a causal link between tobacco addiction and heroine addiction. Now, if they sold heroine at tobacco stores… :)

I’ve written extensively on Robertson and his African diamond mind, child labor, weapons dealing connected money raising scam that he conducted under the guise of kristeeyan charity….I guess he figured out that enough of the rubes he gets money from all have a relative or themselves connected with the extremely important weed agricultural economy of America…my guess is that he’s got a share of the action and is just prudently protecting his investment in a conservative keeeristeeyan way, of course.

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I have respect for Pat Robertson. He is a thoughtful man of God. I have never seen such cynacism and hatred as many of you have posted. Get a life!

The crazy, slurred things he has said in the past caused me to think that he smokes pot just before his TV shows.

The crazy, slurred things he has said in the past caused me to think that he smokes pot just before his TV shows.

The crazy, slurred things he has said in the past caused me to think that he smokes pot just before his TV shows.

He probably has some prime land in northern Califoria he wants to grow pot on, and enrich himself a little more.

He probably has some prime land in northern Califoria he wants to grow pot on, and enrich himself a little more.

He probably has some prime land in northern Califoria he wants to grow pot on, and enrich himself a little more.

“I get it now. Thanks for the chance to hash this out”

Yeah dude!!!! let’s hash out!!!

“I get it now. Thanks for the chance to hash this out”

Yeah dude!!!! let’s hash out!!!

“I get it now. Thanks for the chance to hash this out”

Yeah dude!!!! let’s hash out!!!

Since you mentioned youth and sixties, we’re peers. How many of our friends have you seen implode after 40 years of doing the sanctioned drug, alcohol? I just did a xmas gathering with friends, the drinkers look terrible and most have been on big-pharma meds for awhile now to offset their, acid stomachs, arthritis, lupus and depression. All side effects of putting poison in your body for decades.

It will be funny to watch as the big-prison guys go head-to-head with the big-god guys over the money from the damn socialist fed. First time ever I get to say this. Come on Pat R., you can do it. hahahahahahahaha

Since you mentioned youth and sixties, we’re peers. How many of our friends have you seen implode after 40 years of doing the sanctioned drug, alcohol? I just did a xmas gathering with friends, the drinkers look terrible and most have been on big-pharma meds for awhile now to offset their, acid stomachs, arthritis, lupus and depression. All side effects of putting poison in your body for decades.

It will be funny to watch as the big-prison guys go head-to-head with the big-god guys over the money from the damn socialist fed. First time ever I get to say this. Come on Pat R., you can do it. hahahahahahahaha

Wait till the Rastas stand demanding equal time. I know drug rehab in the Caribean

Wait till the Rastas stand demanding equal time. I know drug rehab in the Caribean

WOW. DID NOT SEE THIS COMING. I’m still not gonna watch the dude but props to him for this.

I’m not that surprised at all. What better way to brain wash people than when they’re high?

I’m not that surprised at all. What better way to brain wash people than when they’re high?

enjoy your blood diamonds.

enjoy your blood diamonds.

[...] “It got to be a big deal in campaigns: ‘He’s tough on crime,’ and ‘lock ‘em up!’” the Christian Coalition founder said. “That’s the way these guys ran and, uh, they got elected. But, that wasn’t the answer.” READ [...]

He’s a fraud. It wasn’t long ago he owned a diamond mine which had people working under deplorable conditions.

Supposedly he didn’t get the mega bucks he wanted. Maybe that’s God’s way of pointing out to him that he is not a true Christian, but a charlatan.

I’ve heard some of the disgusting things he has said and having gone to Church and when I was a child Sunday School, I know that Jesus would not agree with him or his actions.

He’s a fraud. It wasn’t long ago he owned a diamond mine which had people working under deplorable conditions.

Supposedly he didn’t get the mega bucks he wanted. Maybe that’s God’s way of pointing out to him that he is not a true Christian, but a charlatan.

I’ve heard some of the disgusting things he has said and having gone to Church and when I was a child Sunday School, I know that Jesus would not agree with him or his actions.

I don’t believe in allowing anything but air into my lungs.

He’s no more coming around than the devil coming around to TRUE Christian values, like loving thy neighbor and trying to help the ones who are poor and sick.

At least most of us on the left knows a fraud when we see and hear one.

I don’t believe in allowing anything but air into my lungs.

He’s no more coming around than the devil coming around to TRUE Christian values, like loving thy neighbor and trying to help the ones who are poor and sick.

At least most of us on the left knows a fraud when we see and hear one.

It doesn’t take a genius to see that the legal and socially acceptable drug (alcohol), causes far more harm to health and property and has directly led to much loss of life. The demonized drug (pot) is relatively harmless and all of the overblown warnings about its use are baloney. Ironically, the lies about pot have probably taught a good lesson to many people. That is, trust your own instincts and don’t always believe the government and the established wisdom. That lesson is priceless.

It doesn’t take a genius to see that the legal and socially acceptable drug (alcohol), causes far more harm to health and property and has directly led to much loss of life. The demonized drug (pot) is relatively harmless and all of the overblown warnings about its use are baloney. Ironically, the lies about pot have probably taught a good lesson to many people. That is, trust your own instincts and don’t always believe the government and the established wisdom. That lesson is priceless.

ditto

ditto

Perhaps if he hadn’t make some of the un Christian remarks in the past like his comments of Haiti after their earth quake, New Orleans, lies about Muslims, calling for Assassinations, God punished Sharon because he wanted to co-exist with the Palestinians.

The man is a liar, not a man of God. He’s in it for the money and the tax breaks he gets.
I don’t recall Jesus doing anything like that. But I’m sure some phony Christian will go cherry pick in their up to date Bible and mislead others in verses which have been fixed to be conservative.

Perhaps if he hadn’t make some of the un Christian remarks in the past like his comments of Haiti after their earth quake, New Orleans, lies about Muslims, calling for Assassinations, God punished Sharon because he wanted to co-exist with the Palestinians.

The man is a liar, not a man of God. He’s in it for the money and the tax breaks he gets.
I don’t recall Jesus doing anything like that. But I’m sure some phony Christian will go cherry pick in their up to date Bible and mislead others in verses which have been fixed to be conservative.

[...] Raw Story reports that Rev. Pat Robertson is in favor of decriminalizing marijuana: We’re locking up people that have taken a couple puffs of marijuana and next thing you know they’ve got 10 years with mandatory sentences,” Robertson continued. “These judges just say, they throw up their hands and say nothing we can do with these mandatory sentences. We’ve got to take a look at what we’re considering crimes and that’s one of ‘em. [...]

He most likely has invested interests in pot. Anything for money.

Dont’ care how they get the law passed, as long as they pass it. No government should be controlling natural herbs and medicines that GOD placed here for a purpose. There are many spiritual faiths that use this sacred herb and cannot, due to fear of arrest and persecution. The government and Pharma are the biggest drug dealers on Earth, and Big Pharma are free to advertise their poisons in mainstream media in spite of their ineffectiveness and dangerous, toxic side-effects. It is high time the people woke-up and realize just how brainwashed and corporate controlled their lives really are. All conscious souls should work to put a stop to the mind games. Enough is enough!

Dont’ care how they get the law passed, as long as they pass it. No government should be controlling natural herbs and medicines that GOD placed here for a purpose. There are many spiritual faiths that use this sacred herb and cannot, due to fear of arrest and persecution. The government and Pharma are the biggest drug dealers on Earth, and Big Pharma are free to advertise their poisons in mainstream media in spite of their ineffectiveness and dangerous, toxic side-effects. It is high time the people woke-up and realize just how brainwashed and corporate controlled their lives really are. All conscious souls should work to put a stop to the mind games. Enough is enough!

Dont’ care how they get the law passed, as long as they pass it. No government should be controlling natural herbs and medicines that GOD placed here for a purpose. There are many spiritual faiths that use this sacred herb and cannot, due to fear of arrest and persecution. The government and Pharma are the biggest drug dealers on Earth, and Big Pharma are free to advertise their poisons in mainstream media in spite of their ineffectiveness and dangerous, toxic side-effects. It is high time the people woke-up and realize just how brainwashed and corporate controlled their lives really are. All conscious souls should work to put a stop to the mind games. Enough is enough!

Dont’ care how they get the law passed, as long as they pass it. No government should be controlling natural herbs and medicines that GOD placed here for a purpose. There are many spiritual faiths that use this sacred herb and cannot, due to fear of arrest and persecution. The government and Pharma are the biggest drug dealers on Earth, and Big Pharma are free to advertise their poisons in mainstream media in spite of their ineffectiveness and dangerous, toxic side-effects. It is high time the people woke-up and realize just how brainwashed and corporate controlled their lives really are. All conscious souls should work to put a stop to the mind games. Enough is enough!

now that I think about it, I think it had something to do with the immigration from Mexico.

now that I think about it, I think it had something to do with the immigration from Mexico.

now that I think about it, I think it had something to do with the immigration from Mexico.

now that I think about it, I think it had something to do with the immigration from Mexico.

As much as I don’t like putting anything but clean air into our lungs, I’d like to see it legalized and have standards for marijuana. Who knows what stuff they put in those reefers.

It also might help our economy. Just keep them off the streets. Bad enough we have to deal with drunk drivers, we don’t need pot heads driving on our roads.

As much as I don’t like putting anything but clean air into our lungs, I’d like to see it legalized and have standards for marijuana. Who knows what stuff they put in those reefers.

It also might help our economy. Just keep them off the streets. Bad enough we have to deal with drunk drivers, we don’t need pot heads driving on our roads.

As much as I don’t like putting anything but clean air into our lungs, I’d like to see it legalized and have standards for marijuana. Who knows what stuff they put in those reefers.

It also might help our economy. Just keep them off the streets. Bad enough we have to deal with drunk drivers, we don’t need pot heads driving on our roads.

Lungs were meant to breathe in air, not smoke.

I don’t know much about marijuana, hopefully people don’t smoke them as often as they do cigarettes.

Lungs were meant to breathe in air, not smoke.

I don’t know much about marijuana, hopefully people don’t smoke them as often as they do cigarettes.

Lungs were meant to breathe in air, not smoke.

I don’t know much about marijuana, hopefully people don’t smoke them as often as they do cigarettes.

Lungs were meant to breathe in air, not smoke.

I don’t know much about marijuana, hopefully people don’t smoke them as often as they do cigarettes.

I’m in. I’ll bring the lighter.

Here in Mexico, where “small ” amounts of narcotics for personal use are legal, a third offense means mandatory “rehab”. I have no opinion on the use of marijuana by people in the U.S. although I think U.S. marijuana buyers are complicit in the murder and mayhem our exporters cause here, and nothing against rehabs, even religious ones, although such religious run rehabs are sometimes suspected of being either a front for organized crime, or a way of warehousing what are seen here as social undesirables (petty drug dealers, thieves, etc.) and may account for the massacres at drug rehabs you sometimes hear about.

What PR seems to realize is that rehabs would be an opportunity for religious indoctrination, not to mention a cash cow for organizations like his that would be able to run these kinds of centers at a much lower overhead than a private prison.

I have to ask. do you smoke a lot of marijuana? Does it cause paranoia? You posted like you suffer from paranoia with your “socialist government” comment.

I agree that alcohol is a menace having had an alcoholic Father and ex husband, but I don’t know if marijuana is all that harmless. It’s still putting smoke into lungs.

I prefer air.

Mr. Roberson You have a good idea. I hope it takes root all over the Country. It is mush less harmful than alcohol.

Nah, he most likely has a pot farm, or it planning on starting one.

I can’t help but wonder, is big pharma behind the anti marijuana? They get trillions every year from selling their poison, and I imagine growing pot and selling it is cheaper than the poison they peddle.

Well, there’ bush, cheney, American CEO’s to name a few that are as bad.

I didn’t know that. I thought hemp was stopped because of nylon which was started by Dupont who had a giant contract with the US government during WWII.

I’m interested in knowing the facts.

[...] • And finally, because we just love the guy: Count this among the 10 things nobody ever expected to see in their lifetimes: 700 Club founder Pat Robertson, one of the cornerstone figures of America’s Christian right movement, has come out in favor of legalizing marijuana. (The Raw Story) [...]

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Where did you get that one?

The teabagging/gop are the same as the regular gop except the teabaggers were embarrassed by bush jr who really made a mess of our economy.

That’s all we need importing pot from China or some other third world who employs people who work for pennies.

Yeah we really need to import legal marijuana.

Of course Pat is for legalizing it,it would still remain a sin and increase tithes to 700 club and those in jail can’t pay tithes. He’s far from “for it”,just getting all those “hippies” on his 700 list.

Maybe. I would like to know more about marijuana. Not that I will ever smoke it.

Maybe they died from the hard stuff before they became forty or fifty.

The Texas Public Policy Foundation and Right On Crime do not and will not support drug legalization. The issue we raise is over how best to deal with drug offenders, and the proper balance between incarceration and rehabilitation. We invite you to read our policy recommendations which can be found at: http://www.rightoncrime.com/priority-issues/substance-abuse/.

Some people are more prone to being addictive than others.

While I quit smoking after fifteen years, others just can’t seem to do it. That may be the case with pot, and alcohol.

I have had a few drinks in my life, but frankly choose not to drink alcoholic drinks, but there are others like my ex husband who abuse alcohol.

What we really need is a cure for addiction.

[...] Drugs: Christian Coalition founder Pat Robertson says he favors marijuana legalization. [Raw Story] [...]

I’d like to see more studies on heavy use of pot. I’ve yet to see any proof of your claim. Smoke in lungs is dangerous.

They now have those cigarette substitutes that have mists of water being inhaled into the lungs and people are getting sick from that too.

I prefer to sit out doors in the country and looking at the scenery for relaxation and joy.

I’d like to see more studies on heavy use of pot. I’ve yet to see any proof of your claim. Smoke in lungs is dangerous.

They now have those cigarette substitutes that have mists of water being inhaled into the lungs and people are getting sick from that too.

I prefer to sit out doors in the country and looking at the scenery for relaxation and joy.

That doesn’t make it any safer. Frankly I’ve almost been hit by people talking on their cell phones while driving.

Dead is dead no matter what the reason.

That doesn’t make it any safer. Frankly I’ve almost been hit by people talking on their cell phones while driving.

Dead is dead no matter what the reason.