In the US we need to stop with the smoke & mirrors approach of “homeland” security (sounds way too much like “fatherland” and you know the rest.

What about “soft” targets like chemical plants in proximity to densely populated areas? What about security on the ground crew at airports? If there was a “real” terrorist threat, wouldn’t these be more important than big brother cameras at shopping malls?

In the US we need to stop with the smoke & mirrors approach of “homeland” security (sounds way too much like “fatherland” and you know the rest.

What about “soft” targets like chemical plants in proximity to densely populated areas? What about security on the ground crew at airports? If there was a “real” terrorist threat, wouldn’t these be more important than big brother cameras at shopping malls?

Homeland Security coming into your home soon. Forget about the mall, they will know what you watch on TV, the internet, who you call,.when you take a shit.

Homeland Security coming into your home soon. Forget about the mall, they will know what you watch on TV, the internet, who you call,.when you take a shit.

The day is coming that to enter a Mall or other public venue will require us to be scanned or “patted down” to “keep us safe.” The Police State is here to stay… We lost the “War on Terror” as it is “We The People” who are now being terrorized by our own government.

Isn’t it great to live in a democracy???

The day is coming that to enter a Mall or other public venue will require us to be scanned or “patted down” to “keep us safe.” The Police State is here to stay… We lost the “War on Terror” as it is “We The People” who are now being terrorized by our own government.

Isn’t it great to live in a democracy???

Yep, fascism has come to America.

Now we won’t escape DHS’s presence in our lives. Malls, trains, bus stations, subway platforms, libraries, etc will be under surveillance by DHS. Soon they’ll know what type of underwear you wear and what books you buy & sign out at the library. Your entire medical history will be on their profile of you. Other biometric info will be presented to some DHS employee once you step outside your home, much like the movie Minority Report starring Tom Cruise.

Sadly, now that I think about it, this is already happening. Our government believes we will simply sigh and accept it. What’s worse, many will.

Land of the free, home of the brave my ass.

Yep, fascism has come to America.

Now we won’t escape DHS’s presence in our lives. Malls, trains, bus stations, subway platforms, libraries, etc will be under surveillance by DHS. Soon they’ll know what type of underwear you wear and what books you buy & sign out at the library. Your entire medical history will be on their profile of you. Other biometric info will be presented to some DHS employee once you step outside your home, much like the movie Minority Report starring Tom Cruise.

Sadly, now that I think about it, this is already happening. Our government believes we will simply sigh and accept it. What’s worse, many will.

Land of the free, home of the brave my ass.

Our gov’t looks at the Brits and their mouths start to water. They would LOVE to have cameras on every street corner, watching us from the minute we leave the house and until we go back home. This is insanity. They can’t search through the info they have already, and now they want to spy on us even MORE? They can pretty much guarantee that they will miss whatever clues might be there, just because there is SO much CRAP they have to look at.

They won’t be happy until they are watching and listening in on every minute of our lives. So much for freedom, and I hope that I BORE THEM to death.

Our gov’t looks at the Brits and their mouths start to water. They would LOVE to have cameras on every street corner, watching us from the minute we leave the house and until we go back home. This is insanity. They can’t search through the info they have already, and now they want to spy on us even MORE? They can pretty much guarantee that they will miss whatever clues might be there, just because there is SO much CRAP they have to look at.

They won’t be happy until they are watching and listening in on every minute of our lives. So much for freedom, and I hope that I BORE THEM to death.

… This is not about security . This is about controlling the population by any means necessary . Fear is the tool of choice . Stay scared and don’t ask any questions . That’s what the authorities need you to know .

… This is not about security . This is about controlling the population by any means necessary . Fear is the tool of choice . Stay scared and don’t ask any questions . That’s what the authorities need you to know .

FINALLY… a way to stop the creeping crud called malls. Will Homeland Suckurity dismantle the ugly things and return the neighborhoods to some dignity?

And send all those trinkets back to China. All you need is an organic grocery, a few independent retail stores and the internet. Done. Life goes on quite well.

I wonder when “big business” is going to realize that “bigger business” and Janet the Child Molester is after them also? Like the mob, it eats its own, eventually. (What am I saying, “like” the mob?)

Foreign policy adjustment would make us safer than this BS will.

Isnt “Terrorism” lovely?

And convenient?

Back when I wrote that they should install security pat downs as medical procedures at the malls I was being sarcastic. It was a joke. Ms Napolitano, please don’t misunderstand my criticism, and expansion of paranoid imaginings of an invasive corporatist state, as instructions for expansion of intrusive security measures. It was only intended as a sarcastically extreme scenario. Jesus, before you know it they will be installing scanners on bridges and tunnels into New York City. ooops, sorry about that NYC.

[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by The Raw Story, Brandon Gray, Dave Wilcox and others. Dave Wilcox said: Instead of turndown service you get pat-down service… with a mint. RT @RawStory: ‘Homeland’ security coming to hotels http://j.mp/fT2QlR” [...]

That was my first thought, Dirk.

The number of opportunities is infinite, but our arrogant leaders approach the problem like the incredible failure called the War on Drugz™.

We need to check Alien Napolitano’s stock portofilio. I am sure it is loaded with stock in Amazon and other internet merchants. We will cease going to malls to shop, just do it on line.

How do we fight back when any mention of fascism or (FSM forbid) Nazis immediately gets the speaker ‘wished into the corn field’ of discourse?

How do we wake people up to the growing police state when the best examples in history can’t be discussed in polite company?

How much do we have to suffer for Jewish Zionism?

I look forward to the day when somebody kicks the living shit out of somebody working for the TSA as they try to impose their fourth amendment violating tactics.

[...] AFP [...]

America’s domestic spy program focuses on malls now. Guess there weren’t enough vegan and anti-war groups to spy on. Now we can focus on teenagers buying trinkets in dollar stores. What a waste of money. Terrorist groups operate in the open in America and Fatherland Security looks the other way.

Sooo… You know that little spot on your TV where you aim your remote? How sure are you that it’s not looking back at you?

Someone is going to swallow a bomb and donate it in a public place. Then in order to fly or go to the mall you will first have to undergo a colonoscopy.

“America…
Just a nation of two hundred million used car salesmen with all the money we need to buy guns and no qualms about killing anybody else in the world who tries to make us uncomfortable.”
–Hunter S. Thompson

most digital tv receivers have microphones in them. the idea is that in the future they will be used to analyze sounds and target appropriate commercials at you.

yeah, that’s the ticket…

ah, so the malling comes to the malls …
it’s not all bad – maybe this move will do for ‘shop till you drop’ and these transnational blights on the landscape what the ‘guilty till proven innocent’ scanning and groping continues to do to tourism …

ah, so the malling comes to the malls …
it’s not all bad – maybe this move will do for ‘shop till you drop’ and these transnational blights on the landscape what the ‘guilty till proven innocent’ scanning and groping continues to do to tourism …

“It means, as we make the land borders harder to cross from a land border crossing standpoint, that we need to be looking out into our coasts and to the waters,” said Napolitano.

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?

“It means, as we make the land borders harder to cross from a land border crossing standpoint, that we need to be looking out into our coasts and to the waters,” said Napolitano.

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?

Yep, it won’t be long before TSA scans and invasive searchgropes are commonplace everywhere you go.

Those who trade liberty for security get and deserve neither. (Take on Franklin)

Yep, it won’t be long before TSA scans and invasive searchgropes are commonplace everywhere you go.

Those who trade liberty for security get and deserve neither. (Take on Franklin)

It means GTFO the USA while you still can. No one remembers the advanced, civilized, free republic that once was Weimar, we only remeber Nazi Germany. The USA will be remembered the same way, unfortunately.

It means GTFO the USA while you still can. No one remembers the advanced, civilized, free republic that once was Weimar, we only remeber Nazi Germany. The USA will be remembered the same way, unfortunately.

You got it….the Pooper-Boomer bomb. Imagine what you can do with a Great Dane…..
a pound of fertilizer….a huge chunk of raw beef and a…. remote control? Whoa!
They won’t invite you back again.

You got it….the Pooper-Boomer bomb. Imagine what you can do with a Great Dane…..
a pound of fertilizer….a huge chunk of raw beef and a…. remote control? Whoa!
They won’t invite you back again.

Correction. They want to watch us at home too. Fiber optic cable TV anyone? It’s two way! yep, UVERS and all of that crap — they want to spy on us 24/7

Correction. They want to watch us at home too. Fiber optic cable TV anyone? It’s two way! yep, UVERS and all of that crap — they want to spy on us 24/7

This is precisely why I haven’t got a digital receiver! I haven’t watched television since last century.

This is precisely why I haven’t got a digital receiver! I haven’t watched television since last century.

Wow, I am NEVER going to America, if this crap comes to Canada I hope Iceland is ready for a new immigrant.

Wow, I am NEVER going to America, if this crap comes to Canada I hope Iceland is ready for a new immigrant.

As we continue to seek enhanced partnerships with private actors, the security enhancements through the partnerships will be enhanced allowing an enhanced private partnership that enhances security to be enhanced handsomely.

As we continue to seek enhanced partnerships with private actors, the security enhancements through the partnerships will be enhanced allowing an enhanced private partnership that enhances security to be enhanced handsomely.

I hope people know its their fault as a whole this is happening, nobody is doing anything to stop this.

I hope people know its their fault as a whole this is happening, nobody is doing anything to stop this.

Brilliant! F@#$%^G Brilliant! Who needs malls?…who needs to shop? who needs the Middle Class spending all that money!

Brilliant! F@#$%^G Brilliant! Who needs malls?…who needs to shop? who needs the Middle Class spending all that money!

You know, I kinda like the idea of TSA-style body scans and groping before entering malls. It might finally help some folks think twice before they engage in wasteful consumerism.

You know, I kinda like the idea of TSA-style body scans and groping before entering malls. It might finally help some folks think twice before they engage in wasteful consumerism.

New T-shirt…”The Nazis were the Good Guys!” Wear it and they will automatically bar you from any mall…think of the savings?

New T-shirt…”The Nazis were the Good Guys!” Wear it and they will automatically bar you from any mall…think of the savings?

Newsflash: Most Good ‘Mericans have been indoctrinated since birth to defer to a “higher authority”. They actually DO welcome their new fascist overlords…

Newsflash: Most Good ‘Mericans have been indoctrinated since birth to defer to a “higher authority”. They actually DO welcome their new fascist overlords…

Yeah – but Brits don’t have scanners feel-you-up exams in airports and malls.

Yeah – but Brits don’t have scanners feel-you-up exams in airports and malls.

Ask Petraeus.

Ask Petraeus.

Oh, yeah! The police state is expanding its grasp and closing in its fists. Time to get out of Dodge y’all or start getting your papers ready for when that uniformed guard standing at the door to Payless Shoes asks for them.

Oh, yeah! The police state is expanding its grasp and closing in its fists. Time to get out of Dodge y’all or start getting your papers ready for when that uniformed guard standing at the door to Payless Shoes asks for them.

I hate to say it, but I think that most of the folk who spend the most time and money in malls really don’t care about the invasion of privacy and abrogation of rights.

I hate to say it, but I think that most of the folk who spend the most time and money in malls really don’t care about the invasion of privacy and abrogation of rights.

Uh, no. Not only don’t they realize it but they think it’s a great thing. The level of servitude in this country has reached and all time high. Look at this:

Travelers ‘Feel a Little Safer’ Seeing Rape Victim Dragged Across Airport by Police

http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2010/12/23/travelers-feel-a-little-safer-seeing-rape-victim-dragged-across-airport-by-police/

Uh, no. Not only don’t they realize it but they think it’s a great thing. The level of servitude in this country has reached and all time high. Look at this:

Travelers ‘Feel a Little Safer’ Seeing Rape Victim Dragged Across Airport by Police

http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2010/12/23/travelers-feel-a-little-safer-seeing-rape-victim-dragged-across-airport-by-police/

I like your take, but may I submit that it might be catchier as,

“Those who trade liberty for security end up with neither”

We’re a simple lot here in America, compound *anything* confuses us…

I like your take, but may I submit that it might be catchier as,

“Those who trade liberty for security end up with neither”

We’re a simple lot here in America, compound *anything* confuses us…

It means they’re closing down the borders from the inside out. Not backward. The drones are already in place. Martial Law is not far. All that’s needed is another False Flag. Stay tuned.

It means they’re closing down the borders from the inside out. Not backward. The drones are already in place. Martial Law is not far. All that’s needed is another False Flag. Stay tuned.

Duran Duran new song Blame the machines
lyrics
and now turn left
I have control
You are not required
to think at all

Duran Duran new song Blame the machines
lyrics
and now turn left
I have control
You are not required
to think at all

Actually some amateur historians do. They also remember the crackdown on Berlin for it’s immoral tolerance of the gender and sexuality variant that would later be called, LGBT. And the growing resentment toward other ethnicities. There are *soooo* many parallels to what is about to happen…

Actually some amateur historians do. They also remember the crackdown on Berlin for it’s immoral tolerance of the gender and sexuality variant that would later be called, LGBT. And the growing resentment toward other ethnicities. There are *soooo* many parallels to what is about to happen…

‘They’ hate our freedom right? Now ‘they’ have no reason to hate ‘us’. We’re saying “Hey, c’mon we’re no longer free, please don’t hate us anymore. Pretty please??!!”

‘They’ hate our freedom right? Now ‘they’ have no reason to hate ‘us’. We’re saying “Hey, c’mon we’re no longer free, please don’t hate us anymore. Pretty please??!!”

yeah, that will make me want to go out and shop at malls more … actually i already do most of my purchasing at small local businesses

if i had to fly i would drive to canada or mexico and fly out through an airport outside of the u$, although the only time i plan to fly out is when i will be movining out of the u$

and i would chose to take my tent on a trip rather than stay at a hotel/motel, they may chose to come grope me while i was sleeping

really proud to be an amerikan … you betcha

yeah, that will make me want to go out and shop at malls more … actually i already do most of my purchasing at small local businesses

if i had to fly i would drive to canada or mexico and fly out through an airport outside of the u$, although the only time i plan to fly out is when i will be movining out of the u$

and i would chose to take my tent on a trip rather than stay at a hotel/motel, they may chose to come grope me while i was sleeping

really proud to be an amerikan … you betcha

The terrorist have one we are like a bunch of scared little sheep.

The terrorist have one we are like a bunch of scared little sheep.

Lock down coming. Get out of the US while you can.

Lock down coming. Get out of the US while you can.

I’m sorry, but through the ‘Civilian Security Scan Act(tm)”[1] you will enjoy the privilege of paying for your scan. Thank you for choosing Homeland Security. Please continue to consume.

[1] The privilege of movement is subject scanning for threats. Upon boarding the bus, car, or sidewalk, the subject must await scan and clearance. Notification of clearance to move may be made while the subject has been detained for scanning.

I’m sorry, but through the ‘Civilian Security Scan Act(tm)”[1] you will enjoy the privilege of paying for your scan. Thank you for choosing Homeland Security. Please continue to consume.

[1] The privilege of movement is subject scanning for threats. Upon boarding the bus, car, or sidewalk, the subject must await scan and clearance. Notification of clearance to move may be made while the subject has been detained for scanning.

Berlin Wall coming.

Berlin Wall coming.

You got it.

You got it.

Ok to answer this question you may think I am some flake.
The answer can be found in the tactics that these neurotics are taking in so called protecting us. They use FEAR to motivate us. The fear of death is the strongest motivator there is and is our first most primal instinct.
Any ways to get to the point, Love is the answer and alleviates fear. Somehow give love a chance by getting people to love each other thus you eliminate fear.
You love them by telling the truth like wikileaks is doing. By helping them lift their spirits and burdens . By giving them a vision of a world that they would like to live in and then lead them there. By going to the courts and trying to get justice. By demonstrating peacefully and leading others. So many ways but it will only cost you, your life
Are you ready for this? Can you walk the walk and not just talk the talk.

Ok to answer this question you may think I am some flake.
The answer can be found in the tactics that these neurotics are taking in so called protecting us. They use FEAR to motivate us. The fear of death is the strongest motivator there is and is our first most primal instinct.
Any ways to get to the point, Love is the answer and alleviates fear. Somehow give love a chance by getting people to love each other thus you eliminate fear.
You love them by telling the truth like wikileaks is doing. By helping them lift their spirits and burdens . By giving them a vision of a world that they would like to live in and then lead them there. By going to the courts and trying to get justice. By demonstrating peacefully and leading others. So many ways but it will only cost you, your life
Are you ready for this? Can you walk the walk and not just talk the talk.

Wonder how many readers out there are withholding their comments because they don’t want to appear on “A List.”

Wonder how many readers out there are withholding their comments because they don’t want to appear on “A List.”

The fact the Janet smiles while spouting newspeak should not trouble anyone here. It’s that this flies like the dung of the hippo, its tail spinning, the dung flies in every direction, indiscriminately, and is then collected and held up as something worthy of discussion. These distractions from the very assaults on our citizenship are doing the job desired, newspeak included.

The fact the Janet smiles while spouting newspeak should not trouble anyone here. It’s that this flies like the dung of the hippo, its tail spinning, the dung flies in every direction, indiscriminately, and is then collected and held up as something worthy of discussion. These distractions from the very assaults on our citizenship are doing the job desired, newspeak included.

The fact the Janet smiles while spouting newspeak should not trouble anyone here. It’s that this flies like the dung of the hippo, its tail spinning, the dung flies in every direction, indiscriminately, and is then collected and held up as something worthy of discussion. These distractions from the very assaults on our citizenship are doing the job desired, newspeak included.

I don’t watch television either. I don’t own a television. I have lived well for the previous two years without the influence of television commercials and programming. It is an experience difficult to convey to others still under the influence of the corporate sphere. My life has improved dramatically because of my change in habits. My prayer is that all Americans will come to realize this without a severe catalyst.

I don’t watch television either. I don’t own a television. I have lived well for the previous two years without the influence of television commercials and programming. It is an experience difficult to convey to others still under the influence of the corporate sphere. My life has improved dramatically because of my change in habits. My prayer is that all Americans will come to realize this without a severe catalyst.

I don’t watch television either. I don’t own a television. I have lived well for the previous two years without the influence of television commercials and programming. It is an experience difficult to convey to others still under the influence of the corporate sphere. My life has improved dramatically because of my change in habits. My prayer is that all Americans will come to realize this without a severe catalyst.

I don’t watch television either. I don’t own a television. I have lived well for the previous two years without the influence of television commercials and programming. It is an experience difficult to convey to others still under the influence of the corporate sphere. My life has improved dramatically because of my change in habits. My prayer is that all Americans will come to realize this without a severe catalyst.

More people have died of cigarettes in ONE year than every terrorists attacks against US ever.
More people have died from repuke Medicaid cuts than every terrorists attacks against US ever.

Beware of the BOOGIE MAN ~ BOO !

More people have died of cigarettes in ONE year than every terrorists attacks against US ever.
More people have died from repuke Medicaid cuts than every terrorists attacks against US ever.

Beware of the BOOGIE MAN ~ BOO !

More people have died of cigarettes in ONE year than every terrorists attacks against US ever.
More people have died from repuke Medicaid cuts than every terrorists attacks against US ever.

Beware of the BOOGIE MAN ~ BOO !

Yep and all these cameras everywhere were SO successful in London and Madrid. Homeland Security. Do you have to be a paranoid idiot to work there?

Yep and all these cameras everywhere were SO successful in London and Madrid. Homeland Security. Do you have to be a paranoid idiot to work there?

Yep and all these cameras everywhere were SO successful in London and Madrid. Homeland Security. Do you have to be a paranoid idiot to work there?

I already did :) Have NO intention of ever living there again. There are too many much better countries.

I already did :) Have NO intention of ever living there again. There are too many much better countries.

I already did :) Have NO intention of ever living there again. There are too many much better countries.

I already did :) Have NO intention of ever living there again. There are too many much better countries.

that’s what my parents do now. They refuse to fly out of a US airport and are also planning on moving to Spain next year. Like me, they’re done with the US.

that’s what my parents do now. They refuse to fly out of a US airport and are also planning on moving to Spain next year. Like me, they’re done with the US.

that’s what my parents do now. They refuse to fly out of a US airport and are also planning on moving to Spain next year. Like me, they’re done with the US.

that’s what my parents do now. They refuse to fly out of a US airport and are also planning on moving to Spain next year. Like me, they’re done with the US.

We’re countering the semi-manufactured Al Qaeda threat with the expansion of the defense & security industry at the expense of privacy and liberty (ie, Constitutional Protections). Yes. We learned the pattern under Bush Jr

We’re countering the semi-manufactured Al Qaeda threat with the expansion of the defense & security industry at the expense of privacy and liberty (ie, Constitutional Protections). Yes. We learned the pattern under Bush Jr

We’re countering the semi-manufactured Al Qaeda threat with the expansion of the defense & security industry at the expense of privacy and liberty (ie, Constitutional Protections). Yes. We learned the pattern under Bush Jr

We’re countering the semi-manufactured Al Qaeda threat with the expansion of the defense & security industry at the expense of privacy and liberty (ie, Constitutional Protections). Yes. We learned the pattern under Bush Jr

Homeland Security costs too much and isn’t worth it. Brick & mortar stores are having a hard enough time already.

Homeland Security costs too much and isn’t worth it. Brick & mortar stores are having a hard enough time already.

Homeland Security costs too much and isn’t worth it. Brick & mortar stores are having a hard enough time already.

Homeland Security costs too much and isn’t worth it. Brick & mortar stores are having a hard enough time already.

That whole department needs to be abolished. What a monumental waste of our tax dollars.

That whole department needs to be abolished. What a monumental waste of our tax dollars.

That whole department needs to be abolished. What a monumental waste of our tax dollars.

That whole department needs to be abolished. What a monumental waste of our tax dollars.

BOOLA ! ~ BOOLA ! ~ BOOLA !

Welcome to the Boogie Man Economy and Boogie Man Economics.

… the banker’s, ceo’s ,rich’s and THE FASCIST’S Scapegoat.

Wake up and smell the crematoria

BOOLA ! ~ BOOLA ! ~ BOOLA !

Welcome to the Boogie Man Economy and Boogie Man Economics.

… the banker’s, ceo’s ,rich’s and THE FASCIST’S Scapegoat.

Wake up and smell the crematoria

BOOLA ! ~ BOOLA ! ~ BOOLA !

Welcome to the Boogie Man Economy and Boogie Man Economics.

… the banker’s, ceo’s ,rich’s and THE FASCIST’S Scapegoat.

Wake up and smell the crematoria

BOOLA ! ~ BOOLA ! ~ BOOLA !

Welcome to the Boogie Man Economy and Boogie Man Economics.

… the banker’s, ceo’s ,rich’s and THE FASCIST’S Scapegoat.

Wake up and smell the crematoria

There is no where to go. With predator drones and the new robot soldiers starting to come on line, and Obamas continuation of the executive authority to bypass due process. They will get you with impunity. We will soon be living, the most hopeless and painful of lives. Surpassing the grisly horrors of any modern sc-fi films. It’s the American Capitalist Borg. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.

There is no where to go. With predator drones and the new robot soldiers starting to come on line, and Obamas continuation of the executive authority to bypass due process. They will get you with impunity. We will soon be living, the most hopeless and painful of lives. Surpassing the grisly horrors of any modern sc-fi films. It’s the American Capitalist Borg. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.

There is no where to go. With predator drones and the new robot soldiers starting to come on line, and Obamas continuation of the executive authority to bypass due process. They will get you with impunity. We will soon be living, the most hopeless and painful of lives. Surpassing the grisly horrors of any modern sc-fi films. It’s the American Capitalist Borg. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.

There is no where to go. With predator drones and the new robot soldiers starting to come on line, and Obamas continuation of the executive authority to bypass due process. They will get you with impunity. We will soon be living, the most hopeless and painful of lives. Surpassing the grisly horrors of any modern sc-fi films. It’s the American Capitalist Borg. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.

So you watch it at someone else’s place right? Or are you telling us you haven’t watched any TV whatsoever in two years?

So you watch it at someone else’s place right? Or are you telling us you haven’t watched any TV whatsoever in two years?

So you watch it at someone else’s place right? Or are you telling us you haven’t watched any TV whatsoever in two years?

…and the BOOGIE MAN INDUSTRY ~ The (B.I.L.) Boogie Man Industrial Complex !!!

So you watch it at someone else’s place right? Or are you telling us you haven’t watched any TV whatsoever in two years?

…and the BOOGIE MAN INDUSTRY ~ The (B.I.L.) Boogie Man Industrial Complex !!!

…and the BOOGIE MAN INDUSTRY ~ The (B.I.L.) Boogie Man Industrial Complex !!!

I voted for Obama thinking that he would be an improvement over the criminal conspirators in the “Bush” administration. However we mistakenly wound up with Bush’s 3rd term.

I voted for Obama thinking that he would be an improvement over the criminal conspirators in the “Bush” administration. However we mistakenly wound up with Bush’s 3rd term.

There’s a lot of gold in them thar underwear!!!!!! The Chertoff groups Rapiscan and other companies hooked up with homeland security can keep raking in the dough and laughing all the way to the bank on our dole and at our personal expense.

There’s a lot of gold in them thar underwear!!!!!! The Chertoff groups Rapiscan and other companies hooked up with homeland security can keep raking in the dough and laughing all the way to the bank on our dole and at our personal expense.

That sound you hear is your freedoms being flushed down the toilet…….

That sound you hear is your freedoms being flushed down the toilet…….

Very true. For those of us who get our news from alternative sources and are aware of what is going on – it is our government that is to be feared – not the terrorists.

Very true. For those of us who get our news from alternative sources and are aware of what is going on – it is our government that is to be feared – not the terrorists.

welcome to the fear factory………. RETALIATE WITH OPEN HEART ..THE MIND AND THE PEN

welcome to the fear factory………. RETALIATE WITH OPEN HEART ..THE MIND AND THE PEN

I disagree that there is nowhere to go, or that resistance is futile. There are plenty of places to go if you are well-off or creative, e.g., there are opportunities to teach English in lots of places.

Resistance is not necessarily futile either. That is the message of modern epics like Star Wars and LOTR. People will eventually rise up, but often only have incredible hardship and with great difficulty.

So chose whether you want to take the relatively simple way out, or be a patriot and stay and resist oppression in the belly of the tiger.

I disagree that there is nowhere to go, or that resistance is futile. There are plenty of places to go if you are well-off or creative, e.g., there are opportunities to teach English in lots of places.

Resistance is not necessarily futile either. That is the message of modern epics like Star Wars and LOTR. People will eventually rise up, but often only have incredible hardship and with great difficulty.

So chose whether you want to take the relatively simple way out, or be a patriot and stay and resist oppression in the belly of the tiger.

Yep, you and most of the nation got hoodwinked. There were a lot of people raising red flags at the time however. Watch the Obama Deception, it was mostly made before the man was sworn in. We are now moving quickly and quietly into soft Fascism.

Yep, you and most of the nation got hoodwinked. There were a lot of people raising red flags at the time however. Watch the Obama Deception, it was mostly made before the man was sworn in. We are now moving quickly and quietly into soft Fascism.

Amen. That is the grownup way to do it. But how many people are grownups? It’s not the American culture.

Amen. That is the grownup way to do it. But how many people are grownups? It’s not the American culture.

Fear begets the exact kind of society we are afraid to live in. Most partially awake sheep will only stray from the flock when they see strength in numbers, and at the moment strength in numbers is all we have against this garbage. The sheep dogs are preparing for an all our assault.

Fear begets the exact kind of society we are afraid to live in. Most partially awake sheep will only stray from the flock when they see strength in numbers, and at the moment strength in numbers is all we have against this garbage. The sheep dogs are preparing for an all our assault.

I shudder to think of what our government has in store for us. This is going to be the shittiest year of most of our lives. Hope you’re prepared.

I shudder to think of what our government has in store for us. This is going to be the shittiest year of most of our lives. Hope you’re prepared.

YET……..

YET……..

Haven’t you given thought to the new developing anti Rapiscan underwear industry! Commie lackey! I’ll take the idea and run, ha ha ha, all the way to the bank! ;-)

Haven’t you given thought to the new developing anti Rapiscan underwear industry! Commie lackey! I’ll take the idea and run, ha ha ha, all the way to the bank! ;-)

[...] Dec Just what we need. “Homeland” (in)security is coming to hotels and malls in 2011. 1984 is here and we are footing the bill! I wonder when we will have to go through backscatter [...]

[...] In addition to repeating her references about the hopes of spreading the onerous “security” apparatus from the airport to trains and subway stations, Napolitano also tapped hotels and shopping malls as the next targets on her wish list. [...]

This is so disgusting. I can’t fly because of TSA–I don’t care to be strip-searched by a machine or groped by a low-life in uniform. Now I can’t go to malls? OK, if I shop, I’ll do it on line. Pretty soon we’ll just have to be sequestered in our houses like that unfortunate woman in Burma–oh, excuse me, Myanmar.

This is so disgusting. I can’t fly because of TSA–I don’t care to be strip-searched by a machine or groped by a low-life in uniform. Now I can’t go to malls? OK, if I shop, I’ll do it on line. Pretty soon we’ll just have to be sequestered in our houses like that unfortunate woman in Burma–oh, excuse me, Myanmar.

If were addressed corporate bullying and corruption around the globe, perhaps, recruiting terrorists would be more difiicult and we wouldn’t have to take these measures which are largely cosmetic anyway.

If were addressed corporate bullying and corruption around the globe, perhaps, recruiting terrorists would be more difiicult and we wouldn’t have to take these measures which are largely cosmetic anyway.

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hope you democrats are happy !! this is going to put malls out of business it wont work mall owners will not have it

hope you democrats are happy !! this is going to put malls out of business it wont work mall owners will not have it

Next they are going to built concentration camps inside Disneyland :)

Next they are going to built concentration camps inside Disneyland :)

Next they are going to built concentration camps inside Disneyland :)

Next they are going to built concentration camps inside Disneyland :)

police state anyone

police state anyone

police state anyone

police state anyone

Well Janet, there really is only one rational thing to keep us safe. Full-body porn scanners in all shopping centers plus molestation patdowns for everyone who enters, and bans on water bottles.

Well Janet, there really is only one rational thing to keep us safe. Full-body porn scanners in all shopping centers plus molestation patdowns for everyone who enters, and bans on water bottles.

Well Janet, there really is only one rational thing to keep us safe. Full-body porn scanners in all shopping centers plus molestation patdowns for everyone who enters, and bans on water bottles.

Well Janet, there really is only one rational thing to keep us safe. Full-body porn scanners in all shopping centers plus molestation patdowns for everyone who enters, and bans on water bottles.

Democrats huh. Just who started this Orwellian “homeland security” circus? It was one George W. Bush.

Democrats huh. Just who started this Orwellian “homeland security” circus? It was one George W. Bush.

Democrats huh. Just who started this Orwellian “homeland security” circus? It was one George W. Bush.

Democrats huh. Just who started this Orwellian “homeland security” circus? It was one George W. Bush.

Where you will get groped by Minnie Mouse.

Where you will get groped by Minnie Mouse.

Where you will get groped by Minnie Mouse.

Where you will get groped by Minnie Mouse.

So sad , so very sad but true. Maybe we are jsut all hairless monkeys with a little bit of brains and less heart

So sad , so very sad but true. Maybe we are jsut all hairless monkeys with a little bit of brains and less heart

So sad , so very sad but true. Maybe we are jsut all hairless monkeys with a little bit of brains and less heart

So sad , so very sad but true. Maybe we are jsut all hairless monkeys with a little bit of brains and less heart

True. How many lives can we save by going back to the good neighbor policy we appeared to have pre-WWII?
Of course we’ll still need reasonable security measures in place, but we’d also have a lot more friends watching our backs!

True. How many lives can we save by going back to the good neighbor policy we appeared to have pre-WWII?
Of course we’ll still need reasonable security measures in place, but we’d also have a lot more friends watching our backs!

True. How many lives can we save by going back to the good neighbor policy we appeared to have pre-WWII?
Of course we’ll still need reasonable security measures in place, but we’d also have a lot more friends watching our backs!

Humanity has a way to go. We are still evolving.

Humanity has a way to go. We are still evolving.

Humanity has a way to go. We are still evolving.

Humanity has a way to go. We are still evolving.

The United States government will wage war against innocent Iraqis and innocent Afghans and innocent Americans, but REFUSES to prosecute WAR CRIMINALS within its own ranks.

It is DOOMED. This is the end of the empire.

The United States government will wage war against innocent Iraqis and innocent Afghans and innocent Americans, but REFUSES to prosecute WAR CRIMINALS within its own ranks.

It is DOOMED. This is the end of the empire.

The United States government will wage war against innocent Iraqis and innocent Afghans and innocent Americans, but REFUSES to prosecute WAR CRIMINALS within its own ranks.

It is DOOMED. This is the end of the empire.

The United States government will wage war against innocent Iraqis and innocent Afghans and innocent Americans, but REFUSES to prosecute WAR CRIMINALS within its own ranks.

It is DOOMED. This is the end of the empire.

Great post canadaeh, it’s a shame that thinking like your’s is considered radical, when it ought to be the norm.

A battle is won by defeating an element with it’s opposite. Water stops fire, generosity stops poverty, love stops war. Yeah, you gotta protect yourself, and the place you live, but when you do it in a humane way that respects the rest of the world, you have a lot more friends helping so the burden is lighter.

When enough individuals do the right thing, a critical mass is reached and things will change. You want change? Change yourself. If you HAVE changed, be an example to others.
Those words were paraphrased, and I don’t remember who to credit them to which is too bad because, I think they constitute the most important idea on the planet!

Happy New Year, Let’s work this SHIT OUT!

Great post canadaeh, it’s a shame that thinking like your’s is considered radical, when it ought to be the norm.

A battle is won by defeating an element with it’s opposite. Water stops fire, generosity stops poverty, love stops war. Yeah, you gotta protect yourself, and the place you live, but when you do it in a humane way that respects the rest of the world, you have a lot more friends helping so the burden is lighter.

When enough individuals do the right thing, a critical mass is reached and things will change. You want change? Change yourself. If you HAVE changed, be an example to others.
Those words were paraphrased, and I don’t remember who to credit them to which is too bad because, I think they constitute the most important idea on the planet!

Happy New Year, Let’s work this SHIT OUT!

Great post canadaeh, it’s a shame that thinking like your’s is considered radical, when it ought to be the norm.

A battle is won by defeating an element with it’s opposite. Water stops fire, generosity stops poverty, love stops war. Yeah, you gotta protect yourself, and the place you live, but when you do it in a humane way that respects the rest of the world, you have a lot more friends helping so the burden is lighter.

When enough individuals do the right thing, a critical mass is reached and things will change. You want change? Change yourself. If you HAVE changed, be an example to others.
Those words were paraphrased, and I don’t remember who to credit them to which is too bad because, I think they constitute the most important idea on the planet!

Happy New Year, Let’s work this SHIT OUT!

Great post canadaeh, it’s a shame that thinking like your’s is considered radical, when it ought to be the norm.

A battle is won by defeating an element with it’s opposite. Water stops fire, generosity stops poverty, love stops war. Yeah, you gotta protect yourself, and the place you live, but when you do it in a humane way that respects the rest of the world, you have a lot more friends helping so the burden is lighter.

When enough individuals do the right thing, a critical mass is reached and things will change. You want change? Change yourself. If you HAVE changed, be an example to others.
Those words were paraphrased, and I don’t remember who to credit them to which is too bad because, I think they constitute the most important idea on the planet!

Happy New Year, Let’s work this SHIT OUT!

No, we democrats – at least the progressive ones like me – are not happy that you fascist republicans are getting what you want. Au contrair, mon ami, this sucks. If you dislike it, go back in time and get the supreme court to have made a more honest decision – like an honest one. and while you’re at it, consider the evils of your personal voting decisions. But I suppose from your comment that your big concern is the possibility that business (selling chinese crap) in malls may decline.

No, we democrats – at least the progressive ones like me – are not happy that you fascist republicans are getting what you want. Au contrair, mon ami, this sucks. If you dislike it, go back in time and get the supreme court to have made a more honest decision – like an honest one. and while you’re at it, consider the evils of your personal voting decisions. But I suppose from your comment that your big concern is the possibility that business (selling chinese crap) in malls may decline.

No, we democrats – at least the progressive ones like me – are not happy that you fascist republicans are getting what you want. Au contrair, mon ami, this sucks. If you dislike it, go back in time and get the supreme court to have made a more honest decision – like an honest one. and while you’re at it, consider the evils of your personal voting decisions. But I suppose from your comment that your big concern is the possibility that business (selling chinese crap) in malls may decline.

No, we democrats – at least the progressive ones like me – are not happy that you fascist republicans are getting what you want. Au contrair, mon ami, this sucks. If you dislike it, go back in time and get the supreme court to have made a more honest decision – like an honest one. and while you’re at it, consider the evils of your personal voting decisions. But I suppose from your comment that your big concern is the possibility that business (selling chinese crap) in malls may decline.

What utterly dishonest bullshit. Napolitano would have us believe that it’s for national security when in actuality it’s a Big Brother move.

The next step is, “Your papers, please.”

We’re treading on dangerous ground when the government uses ‘double speak’ against it’s citizens. This has been planned for years now and 911 made all this possible thanks to the Bush Crime Family.

Honestly, I fear for my family, relatives and the younger generation. More specifically my nieces and nephews and those under the age of thirty. As for my wife and I, we can take care of ourselves in case of a fascist takeover of our government. We’ve made plans.

What utterly dishonest bullshit. Napolitano would have us believe that it’s for national security when in actuality it’s a Big Brother move.

The next step is, “Your papers, please.”

We’re treading on dangerous ground when the government uses ‘double speak’ against it’s citizens. This has been planned for years now and 911 made all this possible thanks to the Bush Crime Family.

Honestly, I fear for my family, relatives and the younger generation. More specifically my nieces and nephews and those under the age of thirty. As for my wife and I, we can take care of ourselves in case of a fascist takeover of our government. We’ve made plans.

What utterly dishonest bullshit. Napolitano would have us believe that it’s for national security when in actuality it’s a Big Brother move.

The next step is, “Your papers, please.”

We’re treading on dangerous ground when the government uses ‘double speak’ against it’s citizens. This has been planned for years now and 911 made all this possible thanks to the Bush Crime Family.

Honestly, I fear for my family, relatives and the younger generation. More specifically my nieces and nephews and those under the age of thirty. As for my wife and I, we can take care of ourselves in case of a fascist takeover of our government. We’ve made plans.

What utterly dishonest bullshit. Napolitano would have us believe that it’s for national security when in actuality it’s a Big Brother move.

The next step is, “Your papers, please.”

We’re treading on dangerous ground when the government uses ‘double speak’ against it’s citizens. This has been planned for years now and 911 made all this possible thanks to the Bush Crime Family.

Honestly, I fear for my family, relatives and the younger generation. More specifically my nieces and nephews and those under the age of thirty. As for my wife and I, we can take care of ourselves in case of a fascist takeover of our government. We’ve made plans.

Can we please grow up for 5 minutes and admit that Republicans AND Democrats are the problem?

GO look at the NOLAN CHART. There is an entire 2nd dimension to politics, and that’s the spectrum between LIBERTY and AUTHORITY. The problem for everyone are the AUTHORITARIAN Republicans and Democrats.

Can we please grow up for 5 minutes and admit that Republicans AND Democrats are the problem?

GO look at the NOLAN CHART. There is an entire 2nd dimension to politics, and that’s the spectrum between LIBERTY and AUTHORITY. The problem for everyone are the AUTHORITARIAN Republicans and Democrats.

Can we please grow up for 5 minutes and admit that Republicans AND Democrats are the problem?

GO look at the NOLAN CHART. There is an entire 2nd dimension to politics, and that’s the spectrum between LIBERTY and AUTHORITY. The problem for everyone are the AUTHORITARIAN Republicans and Democrats.

That whole GOVERNMENT needs to be abolished. Taxes are theft.

You wouldn’t put a gun to your friend’s head and demand he donate to a charity, so why do you let the IRS?

That whole GOVERNMENT needs to be abolished. Taxes are theft.

You wouldn’t put a gun to your friend’s head and demand he donate to a charity, so why do you let the IRS?

That whole GOVERNMENT needs to be abolished. Taxes are theft.

You wouldn’t put a gun to your friend’s head and demand he donate to a charity, so why do you let the IRS?

That whole GOVERNMENT needs to be abolished. Taxes are theft.

You wouldn’t put a gun to your friend’s head and demand he donate to a charity, so why do you let the IRS?

OK, I think I just learned something important here. Did DD REALLY cut a new record?

OK, I think I just learned something important here. Did DD REALLY cut a new record?

OK, I think I just learned something important here. Did DD REALLY cut a new record?

OK, I think I just learned something important here. Did DD REALLY cut a new record?

I never liked malls anyway. I’m glad the government is doing all it can to make them obsolete.

Its just too bad they have to rely on fabrications and phantoms to end what is merely an aesthetic blight.

I never liked malls anyway. I’m glad the government is doing all it can to make them obsolete.

Its just too bad they have to rely on fabrications and phantoms to end what is merely an aesthetic blight.

I never liked malls anyway. I’m glad the government is doing all it can to make them obsolete.

Its just too bad they have to rely on fabrications and phantoms to end what is merely an aesthetic blight.

I never liked malls anyway. I’m glad the government is doing all it can to make them obsolete.

Its just too bad they have to rely on fabrications and phantoms to end what is merely an aesthetic blight.

Its looking more and more like a global takeover.

Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide. And its only a matter of time before this bully becomes psychopathic.

Its looking more and more like a global takeover.

Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide. And its only a matter of time before this bully becomes psychopathic.

Its looking more and more like a global takeover.

Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide. And its only a matter of time before this bully becomes psychopathic.

Its looking more and more like a global takeover.

Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide. And its only a matter of time before this bully becomes psychopathic.

If terrorists really wanted to attack Americans in malls through out the U.S., they could have done this starting the day after all the airports implemented higher security measures in response to 9/11. And since there hasn’t been a single terror attack at a mall in the U.S. over the past 9 years, one can easily conclude that terrorists really aren’t all that interested in attacking Americans. The police state is here and most Americans are so stupid that they are in favor of it.

If terrorists really wanted to attack Americans in malls through out the U.S., they could have done this starting the day after all the airports implemented higher security measures in response to 9/11. And since there hasn’t been a single terror attack at a mall in the U.S. over the past 9 years, one can easily conclude that terrorists really aren’t all that interested in attacking Americans. The police state is here and most Americans are so stupid that they are in favor of it.

If terrorists really wanted to attack Americans in malls through out the U.S., they could have done this starting the day after all the airports implemented higher security measures in response to 9/11. And since there hasn’t been a single terror attack at a mall in the U.S. over the past 9 years, one can easily conclude that terrorists really aren’t all that interested in attacking Americans. The police state is here and most Americans are so stupid that they are in favor of it.

If terrorists really wanted to attack Americans in malls through out the U.S., they could have done this starting the day after all the airports implemented higher security measures in response to 9/11. And since there hasn’t been a single terror attack at a mall in the U.S. over the past 9 years, one can easily conclude that terrorists really aren’t all that interested in attacking Americans. The police state is here and most Americans are so stupid that they are in favor of it.

DD sure did it is called “All you need is now” came out two days ago and I hope they tour

DD sure did it is called “All you need is now” came out two days ago and I hope they tour

DD sure did it is called “All you need is now” came out two days ago and I hope they tour

DD sure did it is called “All you need is now” came out two days ago and I hope they tour

McCain/Palin would have moved directly to straight authoritarian fascism and not even bothered to pretend anything else was happening. It will be the liberals in the re-education camps if the Repugs ever gain power again.

McCain/Palin would have moved directly to straight authoritarian fascism and not even bothered to pretend anything else was happening. It will be the liberals in the re-education camps if the Repugs ever gain power again.

McCain/Palin would have moved directly to straight authoritarian fascism and not even bothered to pretend anything else was happening. It will be the liberals in the re-education camps if the Repugs ever gain power again.

McCain/Palin would have moved directly to straight authoritarian fascism and not even bothered to pretend anything else was happening. It will be the liberals in the re-education camps if the Repugs ever gain power again.

“People are cattle. If you want to control cattle, you need to control their predators.” And if they don’t have predators, make some up and make them really scary.
At 8:36
Doctor Who: Christmas Special 2010 – A Christmas Carol Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/user/CrazyWhoFan#p/u/3/y9WL-oLqIkI

“People are cattle. If you want to control cattle, you need to control their predators.” And if they don’t have predators, make some up and make them really scary.
At 8:36
Doctor Who: Christmas Special 2010 – A Christmas Carol Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/user/CrazyWhoFan#p/u/3/y9WL-oLqIkI

“People are cattle. If you want to control cattle, you need to control their predators.” And if they don’t have predators, make some up and make them really scary.
At 8:36
Doctor Who: Christmas Special 2010 – A Christmas Carol Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/user/CrazyWhoFan#p/u/3/y9WL-oLqIkI

“People are cattle. If you want to control cattle, you need to control their predators.” And if they don’t have predators, make some up and make them really scary.
At 8:36
Doctor Who: Christmas Special 2010 – A Christmas Carol Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/user/CrazyWhoFan#p/u/3/y9WL-oLqIkI

The police state would *not* be here if very few, if any, individuals in the US were willing to be employed as government enforcers carrying out the orders of Department of Homeland Security, or any other branch of the State.

Please keep the following in mind always. The politicians and bureaucrats – rulers – do *not* get out into the field and enforce their own legislation/decrees/mandates/etc or even their own opinions. Instead they depend on the enforcers to do the dirty work. Therefore the enforcers are the key!! Politicians and bureaucrats simply talk and write, even when it is to give orders – whether to enforcers or directly to ordinary citizens (via snail and email pronouncements for the latter).

Strong negative Social Preferencing – withdrawal or refusal of voluntary association with the reasons made public – towards government enforcers who continue in that role after attempts to logically persuade them of their errors (offers of assistance in obtaining new productive jobs is a good idea for those known personally), is the needed step. Public identification (photos, names and location) of these continuing government enforcers will enable others to also Socially Preference against them, thereby increasing the social pressure to change their employment, their major interaction behavior – use cellphone cameras and the Internet to the fullest. This selective (discriminating) association to exclude those who cause harm is a potentially *very* powerful method of non-violent action, referred to as ostracism by many down through the ages. It is included in Gene Sharp’s 2nd volume (of 3), “The Politics of Nonviolent Action”, Chapter 4, “The Methods of Social Noncooperation”.

Even in the current very unfree societies (of which the US is a major one), negative Social Preferencing can be effectively used to influence individual social behavior and the actions of the State. I have written about this practice in general – http://selfsip.org/focus/protestsnotenough.html
There is much more that can be done beyond groaning, hand wringing, clenching jaws and writing online comments of complaint. One need not – and should not, if thinking in one’s own long range best interest – accept as inevitable the latest government pronouncements in regards to “security” plans.

The police state would *not* be here if very few, if any, individuals in the US were willing to be employed as government enforcers carrying out the orders of Department of Homeland Security, or any other branch of the State.

Please keep the following in mind always. The politicians and bureaucrats – rulers – do *not* get out into the field and enforce their own legislation/decrees/mandates/etc or even their own opinions. Instead they depend on the enforcers to do the dirty work. Therefore the enforcers are the key!! Politicians and bureaucrats simply talk and write, even when it is to give orders – whether to enforcers or directly to ordinary citizens (via snail and email pronouncements for the latter).

Strong negative Social Preferencing – withdrawal or refusal of voluntary association with the reasons made public – towards government enforcers who continue in that role after attempts to logically persuade them of their errors (offers of assistance in obtaining new productive jobs is a good idea for those known personally), is the needed step. Public identification (photos, names and location) of these continuing government enforcers will enable others to also Socially Preference against them, thereby increasing the social pressure to change their employment, their major interaction behavior – use cellphone cameras and the Internet to the fullest. This selective (discriminating) association to exclude those who cause harm is a potentially *very* powerful method of non-violent action, referred to as ostracism by many down through the ages. It is included in Gene Sharp’s 2nd volume (of 3), “The Politics of Nonviolent Action”, Chapter 4, “The Methods of Social Noncooperation”.

Even in the current very unfree societies (of which the US is a major one), negative Social Preferencing can be effectively used to influence individual social behavior and the actions of the State. I have written about this practice in general – http://selfsip.org/focus/protestsnotenough.html
There is much more that can be done beyond groaning, hand wringing, clenching jaws and writing online comments of complaint. One need not – and should not, if thinking in one’s own long range best interest – accept as inevitable the latest government pronouncements in regards to “security” plans.

The police state would *not* be here if very few, if any, individuals in the US were willing to be employed as government enforcers carrying out the orders of Department of Homeland Security, or any other branch of the State.

Please keep the following in mind always. The politicians and bureaucrats – rulers – do *not* get out into the field and enforce their own legislation/decrees/mandates/etc or even their own opinions. Instead they depend on the enforcers to do the dirty work. Therefore the enforcers are the key!! Politicians and bureaucrats simply talk and write, even when it is to give orders – whether to enforcers or directly to ordinary citizens (via snail and email pronouncements for the latter).

Strong negative Social Preferencing – withdrawal or refusal of voluntary association with the reasons made public – towards government enforcers who continue in that role after attempts to logically persuade them of their errors (offers of assistance in obtaining new productive jobs is a good idea for those known personally), is the needed step. Public identification (photos, names and location) of these continuing government enforcers will enable others to also Socially Preference against them, thereby increasing the social pressure to change their employment, their major interaction behavior – use cellphone cameras and the Internet to the fullest. This selective (discriminating) association to exclude those who cause harm is a potentially *very* powerful method of non-violent action, referred to as ostracism by many down through the ages. It is included in Gene Sharp’s 2nd volume (of 3), “The Politics of Nonviolent Action”, Chapter 4, “The Methods of Social Noncooperation”.

Even in the current very unfree societies (of which the US is a major one), negative Social Preferencing can be effectively used to influence individual social behavior and the actions of the State. I have written about this practice in general – http://selfsip.org/focus/protestsnotenough.html
There is much more that can be done beyond groaning, hand wringing, clenching jaws and writing online comments of complaint. One need not – and should not, if thinking in one’s own long range best interest – accept as inevitable the latest government pronouncements in regards to “security” plans.

The police state would *not* be here if very few, if any, individuals in the US were willing to be employed as government enforcers carrying out the orders of Department of Homeland Security, or any other branch of the State.

Please keep the following in mind always. The politicians and bureaucrats – rulers – do *not* get out into the field and enforce their own legislation/decrees/mandates/etc or even their own opinions. Instead they depend on the enforcers to do the dirty work. Therefore the enforcers are the key!! Politicians and bureaucrats simply talk and write, even when it is to give orders – whether to enforcers or directly to ordinary citizens (via snail and email pronouncements for the latter).

Strong negative Social Preferencing – withdrawal or refusal of voluntary association with the reasons made public – towards government enforcers who continue in that role after attempts to logically persuade them of their errors (offers of assistance in obtaining new productive jobs is a good idea for those known personally), is the needed step. Public identification (photos, names and location) of these continuing government enforcers will enable others to also Socially Preference against them, thereby increasing the social pressure to change their employment, their major interaction behavior – use cellphone cameras and the Internet to the fullest. This selective (discriminating) association to exclude those who cause harm is a potentially *very* powerful method of non-violent action, referred to as ostracism by many down through the ages. It is included in Gene Sharp’s 2nd volume (of 3), “The Politics of Nonviolent Action”, Chapter 4, “The Methods of Social Noncooperation”.

Even in the current very unfree societies (of which the US is a major one), negative Social Preferencing can be effectively used to influence individual social behavior and the actions of the State. I have written about this practice in general – http://selfsip.org/focus/protestsnotenough.html
There is much more that can be done beyond groaning, hand wringing, clenching jaws and writing online comments of complaint. One need not – and should not, if thinking in one’s own long range best interest – accept as inevitable the latest government pronouncements in regards to “security” plans.

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*giggle* you’re absolutely right

*giggle* you’re absolutely right

*giggle* you’re absolutely right

*giggle* you’re absolutely right

That is very hopeful thinking. While there may be, I do not know of any totalitarian regime that ran out of secret police. Nor am I aware that the Nazi’s had trouble finding enough concentration camp guards. In the U.S., you can look at the most extreme and hateful political candidates, or the apparently least intelligent, or the relatively most insane who seems disconnected from reality, and very meaningful segments of the population almost inevitably are there to support them if they are associated with a major political party, particularly one starting with an R, and rarely with less than 30 percent of the voting public at an extreme. Relying that the government, should it be taken over by bad elements, not be able to find enough participants to round you up, oversee your confinement or torture you is not a very good plan.

That is very hopeful thinking. While there may be, I do not know of any totalitarian regime that ran out of secret police. Nor am I aware that the Nazi’s had trouble finding enough concentration camp guards. In the U.S., you can look at the most extreme and hateful political candidates, or the apparently least intelligent, or the relatively most insane who seems disconnected from reality, and very meaningful segments of the population almost inevitably are there to support them if they are associated with a major political party, particularly one starting with an R, and rarely with less than 30 percent of the voting public at an extreme. Relying that the government, should it be taken over by bad elements, not be able to find enough participants to round you up, oversee your confinement or torture you is not a very good plan.

That is very hopeful thinking. While there may be, I do not know of any totalitarian regime that ran out of secret police. Nor am I aware that the Nazi’s had trouble finding enough concentration camp guards. In the U.S., you can look at the most extreme and hateful political candidates, or the apparently least intelligent, or the relatively most insane who seems disconnected from reality, and very meaningful segments of the population almost inevitably are there to support them if they are associated with a major political party, particularly one starting with an R, and rarely with less than 30 percent of the voting public at an extreme. Relying that the government, should it be taken over by bad elements, not be able to find enough participants to round you up, oversee your confinement or torture you is not a very good plan.

That is very hopeful thinking. While there may be, I do not know of any totalitarian regime that ran out of secret police. Nor am I aware that the Nazi’s had trouble finding enough concentration camp guards. In the U.S., you can look at the most extreme and hateful political candidates, or the apparently least intelligent, or the relatively most insane who seems disconnected from reality, and very meaningful segments of the population almost inevitably are there to support them if they are associated with a major political party, particularly one starting with an R, and rarely with less than 30 percent of the voting public at an extreme. Relying that the government, should it be taken over by bad elements, not be able to find enough participants to round you up, oversee your confinement or torture you is not a very good plan.

That is very hopeful thinking. While there may be, I do not know of any totalitarian regime that ran out of secret police. Nor am I aware that the Nazi’s had trouble finding enough concentration camp guards. In the U.S., you can look at the most extreme and hateful political candidates, or the apparently least intelligent, or the relatively most insane who seems disconnected from reality, and very meaningful segments of the population almost inevitably are there to support them if they are associated with a major political party, particularly one starting with an R, and rarely with less than 30 percent of the voting public at an extreme. Relying that the government, should it be taken over by bad elements, not be able to find enough participants to round you up, oversee your confinement or torture you is not a very good plan.

I haven’t watched television since last century, which is well over 10 years and counting. I cannot express to you the peace and quiet alone that abandoning television and its incessant 24.7 commercial droning has brought to our household. I don’t miss the so-called entertainment. Anything worth watching is available commercial free on video. I do not own a working television. My only televisions are pre-digital and are used solely as a hookup for the nintendo and ps3. The only time I am ever exposed to television is when I visit the doctor’s office, which thank heaven, is infrequently. When I do, however, I find a seat furthest away from the endless din and try my best to ignore it. I do not miss television whatsoever.

I haven’t watched television since last century, which is well over 10 years and counting. I cannot express to you the peace and quiet alone that abandoning television and its incessant 24.7 commercial droning has brought to our household. I don’t miss the so-called entertainment. Anything worth watching is available commercial free on video. I do not own a working television. My only televisions are pre-digital and are used solely as a hookup for the nintendo and ps3. The only time I am ever exposed to television is when I visit the doctor’s office, which thank heaven, is infrequently. When I do, however, I find a seat furthest away from the endless din and try my best to ignore it. I do not miss television whatsoever.

It is an Eric Blair novel, 1984. Yes, and also like Farenheit 451, but instead of burning books like Nazis, they got everyone to voluntarily dumb themselves down with high-tech gadgetry and “media.” Are we really this stupid? Here comes what Alex Jones was warning us about.

It is an Eric Blair novel, 1984. Yes, and also like Farenheit 451, but instead of burning books like Nazis, they got everyone to voluntarily dumb themselves down with high-tech gadgetry and “media.” Are we really this stupid? Here comes what Alex Jones was warning us about.

It is an Eric Blair novel, 1984. Yes, and also like Farenheit 451, but instead of burning books like Nazis, they got everyone to voluntarily dumb themselves down with high-tech gadgetry and “media.” Are we really this stupid? Here comes what Alex Jones was warning us about.

It is an Eric Blair novel, 1984. Yes, and also like Farenheit 451, but instead of burning books like Nazis, they got everyone to voluntarily dumb themselves down with high-tech gadgetry and “media.” Are we really this stupid? Here comes what Alex Jones was warning us about.

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John Pilger’s The War You Don’t See has been released.

At the 1:17:10 mark is an exchange between Assange and Pilger.

Money, and money-making is at the center of modern war,
and it’s almost self-perpetuating, and it’s becoming worse.

John Pilger’s The War You Don’t See has been released.

At the 1:17:10 mark is an exchange between Assange and Pilger.

Money, and money-making is at the center of modern war,
and it’s almost self-perpetuating, and it’s becoming worse.

John Pilger’s The War You Don’t See has been released.

At the 1:17:10 mark is an exchange between Assange and Pilger.

Money, and money-making is at the center of modern war,
and it’s almost self-perpetuating, and it’s becoming worse.

John Pilger’s The War You Don’t See has been released.

At the 1:17:10 mark is an exchange between Assange and Pilger.

Money, and money-making is at the center of modern war,
and it’s almost self-perpetuating, and it’s becoming worse.

John Pilger’s The War You Don’t See has been released.

At the 1:17:10 mark is an exchange between Assange and Pilger.

Money, and money-making is at the center of modern war,
and it’s almost self-perpetuating, and it’s becoming worse.

Bush, Cheney and Rice are at the Mall ?

Every time they use the term “al-Qaeda” the red flags go up. You know, the false ones. For every fascist like Napalitano, the Bushes, the Cheneys, the Rumsfelds of the world, I would say to their faces, you assassinated John F. Kennedy.

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Things that kill more people than terrorism every year:
- Dogs
- Bad seafood
- Falls from ladders
- Tylenol
- Undercooked meat
- About a thousand other, more realistic threats

This is an absurdly disproportionate response to a minor threat.

Common use of the word “Al-Qaeda” in different Arab countries in the public language is for the “toilet bowl”.
So, if you were forming a terrorist group, would you call yourself, “The Toilet”?

…and yet cigarettes kill about 1/2 million Americans each year.

Let’s have mandatory pat-downs and porno scanners at all major malls because it would make some people feel safer. And also to teach young people of the next generation to get used to searches and no privacy for the upcoming world government.

In today’s world of instant communication via the Internet with virtually all parts of the globe, let alone across the US, the technical capability to publicly identify government enforcers and their supporters is considerable as well as communicating one’s actions of negative Social Preferencing. Consequently, the capability for successful dissuasion of large numbers of actual enforcers from government employment by ceasing to voluntarily associate with them is far greater than any that was attempted in the past. And this same dissuasion applies to those simply considering such employment.

After actually reading my linked article, I strongly suggest that you read some of the historical instances of successful social non-cooperation – French and Norwegians against the occupying Germans, for instance – keeping in mind the added enormous advantages of today’s technology.

Lastly, why would you even *want* to voluntarily associate or exchange any value with a person who is or would be a government enforcer or even support such people/actions?

The BBC did a documentary on Al-Qaeda. It explains that Al-Qaeda was an invention by the US justice system to be able to prosecute terrorist suspects under the laws that had been used to prosecute the Mafia. In order to do that the terrorists had to be part of an organization, and so Al-Qaeda was invented. Google: bbc al qaeda does not exist

See: http://www.irintech.com/x1/blogarchive.php?id=1133

Greetings,

You know, there wouldn’t have been any of this if they had followed the less intrusive rules they had in place before. Why was Abdulmutallab let on an airplane without a passport? Why didn’t someone realize that Nigerians traveling without luggage or a passport holding a one-way ticket paid for in cash, shouldn’t be allowed to fly to the United States? How come I have to suffer an invasion of privacy just to go fly somewhere because they guys have to initiate “draconian” measures in response to their ineptitude? Why am I being punished for their mistakes?

Guess what, it isn’t going away. Each of these new measures, whether it be cameras in our cities or naked peek-a-boo in our airports, is here to stay. Not only that, these guys are allowing lobbyists to write tens of thousands of pages of new laws – laws the Congress doesn’t even bother to read, that are slowly setting a legal framework to enslave the poor.

Those with money will still get to live in the land of the free as they can afford to jump through every loophole in the 150000 pages of federal and tax law that govern us. I don’t believe a single human could ever read all of it.

'Homeland' security coming to hotels, malls | Raw Story…

Here at World Spinner we are debating the same thing……

‘…..in the past year and have done a fair amount of training for their own employees,’
So shopping mall security guards are being trained and equipped to deal with terrorism.
That will make you feel safe!

Yes, but they are American cigarettes not those nasty imported ones.

I see were you’re coming from, but have you considered the abolition of net neutrality? If the powers that be see net neutrality as something that is working against them, then they will abolish it. As I write this, it’s almost certain that Homeland Security is reading someone’s emails and listening to someone’s conversation on a cell phone.

It’s also possible that government enforcers could be your next door neighbor working undercover without exposing themselves to this fact.

However, people are smart enough to get around the laws and communicate ‘illegally’ using the net by hacking though government filters.

*Sigh* I feel like we have to watch out for ourselves by looking over our shoulders at the intruding government. I honestly never thought I’d be writing something such as the above.

good, won’t shop there either.

The recent refusal of a Montana jury to convict an individual of a Marijuana charge is a faint ray of hope.

Coercing you to mistrust your fellow human citizens is one of the steps…the next is to convince you to turn them in should they seem, you know, suspicious.

True enough about McCain/Palin. We would have been better off though, as this way they’ve taken the slow, deliberate route and made use of a “constitutional scholar” to make sure all those pesky rights are taken away nice and legal and the law changed to fit.

Not far off. I’m guessing quite a bit of mall-land real estate could be transferred to the banks once business falls off enough.

And with a little renovation and equipment they’d make dandy processing centers in places without a major airport, though stadiums would’ve been my first guess.

Not far off. I’m guessing quite a bit of mall-land real estate could be transferred to the banks once business falls off enough.

And with a little renovation and equipment they’d make dandy processing centers in places without a major airport, though stadiums would’ve been my first guess.

Nice. Why don’t you just joke about them installing scanners at major sporting and entertainment venues?

Nice. Why don’t you just joke about them installing scanners at major sporting and entertainment venues?

There is no invasion of privacy when you follow a being that is everywhere and knows everything. As for abrogation of rights, that’s the way an individual would think, not someone dedicated to the good of the flock. Seriously, why do you think Christianism (hate based theism) has been doing so good lately? People have been raised to think that way. It’s 1984 pushed through the pulpit, man…

There is no invasion of privacy when you follow a being that is everywhere and knows everything. As for abrogation of rights, that’s the way an individual would think, not someone dedicated to the good of the flock. Seriously, why do you think Christianism (hate based theism) has been doing so good lately? People have been raised to think that way. It’s 1984 pushed through the pulpit, man…

Actually, I’m betting that within two years we’ll each *legally* be required to carry a newer, improved, Real-ID that can be automatically scanned.

Actually, I’m betting that within two years we’ll each *legally* be required to carry a newer, improved, Real-ID that can be automatically scanned.

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All the billions and billions spent on nothing more than a money making scam for politicians and defense contractors and yet the bff of George Bush and Dick Cheney, one Bin Laden, seems to have been forgotten. His usefulness is gone and as all politicians know, if it isn’t constantly repeated, the public will forget about it within the hour.

All the billions and billions spent on nothing more than a money making scam for politicians and defense contractors and yet the bff of George Bush and Dick Cheney, one Bin Laden, seems to have been forgotten. His usefulness is gone and as all politicians know, if it isn’t constantly repeated, the public will forget about it within the hour.

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“What we have to do is say, well, what other ways are they thinking to commit an act, because our job is not only to react, but to be thinking always ahead, what could be happening”

For the record the “they” in that statement are all of the people who finally decide to go nuts after “our” government puts the final nail in our economic coffin and hands we “citizens” over to the corporations as uncompensated slaves for sustenance. There is not, nor has there ever been a Al-Qaeda, Easter bunny or Santa claws.

“What we have to do is say, well, what other ways are they thinking to commit an act, because our job is not only to react, but to be thinking always ahead, what could be happening”

For the record the “they” in that statement are all of the people who finally decide to go nuts after “our” government puts the final nail in our economic coffin and hands we “citizens” over to the corporations as uncompensated slaves for sustenance. There is not, nor has there ever been a Al-Qaeda, Easter bunny or Santa claws.

… & because corporate Amerikkka is The World’s Biggest BULLY !

… & because corporate Amerikkka is The World’s Biggest BULLY !

and you may ask yourself … how many high rollers rode the towers down on 09/11 ?

and you may ask yourself … how many high rollers rode the towers down on 09/11 ?

Your comment suggests a interesting possibility.

Terrorists need a concentration of individuals to make their violent acts effective. If consumers decide to avoid crowds and shop at smaller stores outside malls so they won’t be part of a target, stand-alone retailers might have a bright future. And the possibility of being bombed or groped also might send travelers to their cars rather than public transportation. Both of these could raise the demand for gasoline and increase the western presence in the oil producing regions. Infidels in Arab lands is what set-off the terrorists in the first place but their response to it may only make it worse.

Your comment suggests a interesting possibility.

Terrorists need a concentration of individuals to make their violent acts effective. If consumers decide to avoid crowds and shop at smaller stores outside malls so they won’t be part of a target, stand-alone retailers might have a bright future. And the possibility of being bombed or groped also might send travelers to their cars rather than public transportation. Both of these could raise the demand for gasoline and increase the western presence in the oil producing regions. Infidels in Arab lands is what set-off the terrorists in the first place but their response to it may only make it worse.

Watched that over Christmas..excellent film.

Watched that over Christmas..excellent film.

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Anyone spending a lot of time in one of America’s temples to corporatism–a mall–probably needs to be invigilated.

Anyone spending a lot of time in one of America’s temples to corporatism–a mall–probably needs to be invigilated.

A total police state takeover.

A total police state takeover.

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Umar Farouk the Nigerian underwear bomber had no passport nor a bording pass when checked in at Amsterdam airport on flight 253. This is according to an eyewitness and passenger Kurt Haskell and his wife a US lawyer couple from Detroit while returning back home from their vacation. The streamline media has ignored this smoking gun story. Watch it on YT.
watch?v=wM2yiohmPEI&feature=player_embedded

Umar Farouk the Nigerian underwear bomber had no passport nor a bording pass when checked in at Amsterdam airport on flight 253. This is according to an eyewitness and passenger Kurt Haskell and his wife a US lawyer couple from Detroit while returning back home from their vacation. The streamline media has ignored this smoking gun story. Watch it on YT.
watch?v=wM2yiohmPEI&feature=player_embedded

That is a fantastic idea — the only impediment being the Republicrat political “leadership” in the country who are not doing this for terrorism purposes, but rather to keep all of us under surveillance. They are not putting microwave cannons on the backs of Humvees to combat terrorism — those are for us.

Not only that, it’s just not conducive to soliciting bribes. Can you even imagine Obama embarking on a campaign to stay away from big box multi-national retail empires to shop at the local mom&pop stores? WalMart is from Arkansas, don’t forget.

If people decide to drive more, they’ll be installing surveillance equipment on every block under the pretense that someone could load up a vehicle with explosives. It doesn’t matter what the situation is, if we let people like Napolitano run without resistance, we’ll soon make the former Soviet Union look like Haight Ashbury in the 60s.

That’s because they have something to protect, and it isn’t protecting us from terrorists. Let’s face it: as bad as it is, far more people die quietly every year from the flu than from all the terrorists attacks so far combined. Far more die of simple lack of health care, yet we aren’t spending this kind of money throwing the health insurance CEOs in prison for fraud.

They’re peddling that fear so we readily accept being monitored, like a flock of fucking sheep. They want to monitor us — our movements, our conversations, our emails, our web searches, our library records, our hard drives, our postal mails, our very bodies — because they know that the wealthy have a lot to protect, and once the shit hits the fan, there’s going to be a lot of very unhappy Americans who had the sheer audacity to think themselves above living in a discarded appliance carton outside some McMansion and shitting in an open ditch.

They now have a term for fighting for what’s ours: “home grown terrorism.” We heard Sean Hannity and the idiot chorus on Fox calling anyone who didn’t support Bush’s war for oil a terrorist, so it doesn’t take an act of violence, merely speech that violates the fascist guidelines.

Oh, by the way,. it wasn’t infidels in Arab lands so much that caused their radicalization, but infidels who support brutal dictatorships who sign oil deals to enrich themselves and to pay their goons to subjugate the population with force — not to mention the Arabs we decide to slaughter with our own hand or by equipping Israel with weapons.

That is a fantastic idea — the only impediment being the Republicrat political “leadership” in the country who are not doing this for terrorism purposes, but rather to keep all of us under surveillance. They are not putting microwave cannons on the backs of Humvees to combat terrorism — those are for us.

Not only that, it’s just not conducive to soliciting bribes. Can you even imagine Obama embarking on a campaign to stay away from big box multi-national retail empires to shop at the local mom&pop stores? WalMart is from Arkansas, don’t forget.

If people decide to drive more, they’ll be installing surveillance equipment on every block under the pretense that someone could load up a vehicle with explosives. It doesn’t matter what the situation is, if we let people like Napolitano run without resistance, we’ll soon make the former Soviet Union look like Haight Ashbury in the 60s.

That’s because they have something to protect, and it isn’t protecting us from terrorists. Let’s face it: as bad as it is, far more people die quietly every year from the flu than from all the terrorists attacks so far combined. Far more die of simple lack of health care, yet we aren’t spending this kind of money throwing the health insurance CEOs in prison for fraud.

They’re peddling that fear so we readily accept being monitored, like a flock of fucking sheep. They want to monitor us — our movements, our conversations, our emails, our web searches, our library records, our hard drives, our postal mails, our very bodies — because they know that the wealthy have a lot to protect, and once the shit hits the fan, there’s going to be a lot of very unhappy Americans who had the sheer audacity to think themselves above living in a discarded appliance carton outside some McMansion and shitting in an open ditch.

They now have a term for fighting for what’s ours: “home grown terrorism.” We heard Sean Hannity and the idiot chorus on Fox calling anyone who didn’t support Bush’s war for oil a terrorist, so it doesn’t take an act of violence, merely speech that violates the fascist guidelines.

Oh, by the way,. it wasn’t infidels in Arab lands so much that caused their radicalization, but infidels who support brutal dictatorships who sign oil deals to enrich themselves and to pay their goons to subjugate the population with force — not to mention the Arabs we decide to slaughter with our own hand or by equipping Israel with weapons.

The Terrorists must be so jealous of our Unmanned Aerial Vehicles.
UAV’s easily fit into the millions of shipping containers that enter US ports each year.

Blow up a supermarket, a few suburban homes, a couple gas stations – all in one month, from the comfort of your computer console. Make Americans fearful of shopping for food, staying home, or buying gasoline – constant fear from death from above. Give a whole region depression and insomnia.

I hear it’s working great in Pakistan.

The Terrorists must be so jealous of our Unmanned Aerial Vehicles.
UAV’s easily fit into the millions of shipping containers that enter US ports each year.

Blow up a supermarket, a few suburban homes, a couple gas stations – all in one month, from the comfort of your computer console. Make Americans fearful of shopping for food, staying home, or buying gasoline – constant fear from death from above. Give a whole region depression and insomnia.

I hear it’s working great in Pakistan.

The Terrorists must be so jealous of our Unmanned Aerial Vehicles.
UAV’s easily fit into the millions of shipping containers that enter US ports each year.

Blow up a supermarket, a few suburban homes, a couple gas stations – all in one month, from the comfort of your computer console. Make Americans fearful of shopping for food, staying home, or buying gasoline – constant fear from death from above. Give a whole region depression and insomnia.

I hear it’s working great in Pakistan.

The Terrorists must be so jealous of our Unmanned Aerial Vehicles.
UAV’s easily fit into the millions of shipping containers that enter US ports each year.

Blow up a supermarket, a few suburban homes, a couple gas stations – all in one month, from the comfort of your computer console. Make Americans fearful of shopping for food, staying home, or buying gasoline – constant fear from death from above. Give a whole region depression and insomnia.

I hear it’s working great in Pakistan.

The Terrorists must be so jealous of our Unmanned Aerial Vehicles.
UAV’s easily fit into the millions of shipping containers that enter US ports each year.

Blow up a supermarket, a few suburban homes, a couple gas stations – all in one month, from the comfort of your computer console. Make Americans fearful of shopping for food, staying home, or buying gasoline – constant fear from death from above. Give a whole region depression and insomnia.

I hear it’s working great in Pakistan.

Yeah. Thanks for reminding me why I never shop at places like malls any more.

Yeah. Thanks for reminding me why I never shop at places like malls any more.

Yeah. Thanks for reminding me why I never shop at places like malls any more.

Yeah. Thanks for reminding me why I never shop at places like malls any more.

Yeah. Thanks for reminding me why I never shop at places like malls any more.

You are correct. I read a comment following the story in the Wash. Post about lawmakers taking ‘campaign contributions aka bribes’ while key votes are going on. Just more of what we already know but specific examples.

The comments following the piece were good. One suggested we make this year, 2011 THE YEAR of PROTEST.

I have been making a list of protests that i intend to carry out. First- I won’t shop multinational corps and i will inform them of that, frequently.
Second- I will continue to tell every business with Fox News on a public tv why i am not spending money in their place.
Third- Fuck Flying, I’ll drive.
Fourth- spread the word. It is probably our last chance to take a stand.
Fifth- I am listening for suggestions from others. I’m old but i can still stand in the street with a sign. Pete Seeger is still doing it. God Bless him.
E Pluribus Unum – Of Many One

You are correct. I read a comment following the story in the Wash. Post about lawmakers taking ‘campaign contributions aka bribes’ while key votes are going on. Just more of what we already know but specific examples.

The comments following the piece were good. One suggested we make this year, 2011 THE YEAR of PROTEST.

I have been making a list of protests that i intend to carry out. First- I won’t shop multinational corps and i will inform them of that, frequently.
Second- I will continue to tell every business with Fox News on a public tv why i am not spending money in their place.
Third- Fuck Flying, I’ll drive.
Fourth- spread the word. It is probably our last chance to take a stand.
Fifth- I am listening for suggestions from others. I’m old but i can still stand in the street with a sign. Pete Seeger is still doing it. God Bless him.
E Pluribus Unum – Of Many One

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Agreed. How serendipitous that unemployment is so high. The better to create the security state with.

Agreed. How serendipitous that unemployment is so high. The better to create the security state with.

I did watch “The Obama Deception”, and voted for him anyway – for one reason only – I couldn’t accept the idea of Sarah Palin having a non-zero chance at attaining the Presidency.

I did watch “The Obama Deception”, and voted for him anyway – for one reason only – I couldn’t accept the idea of Sarah Palin having a non-zero chance at attaining the Presidency.

How about we stop killing innocent people in the middle east and slow down our making enemies. There’s a start instead of turning our streets into neo con centers.

How about we stop killing innocent people in the middle east and slow down our making enemies. There’s a start instead of turning our streets into neo con centers.

The Answer to 1984 is 1776. They are not helping us or protecting us they are only killing our country one step at a time. The Evolutionary Death of American is beginning to crumble before our very eyes. We must peacefully but aggressively resist a police state / surveillance society before we lose everything that makes this country great. The “HOMELAND SECURITY” (a nazi term) is going to have a fight on their hands if they feel they can strip of us of all of our decency and constitutional rights under the guise of National Security. When I use the term “fight” I don’t mean literally, I mean a fight under the law of the land through peacefully but aggressively protesting and resisting these draconian measures. Study after study after study have demonstrated that the surveillance cameras “DO NOT” provide additional security or curtail crime. And isn’t amazing that whenever a crime does occur when the gov’t or police overstep their lawful boundries the cameras were mysteriously not working. So much for accountability.

The Answer to 1984 is 1776. They are not helping us or protecting us they are only killing our country one step at a time. The Evolutionary Death of American is beginning to crumble before our very eyes. We must peacefully but aggressively resist a police state / surveillance society before we lose everything that makes this country great. The “HOMELAND SECURITY” (a nazi term) is going to have a fight on their hands if they feel they can strip of us of all of our decency and constitutional rights under the guise of National Security. When I use the term “fight” I don’t mean literally, I mean a fight under the law of the land through peacefully but aggressively protesting and resisting these draconian measures. Study after study after study have demonstrated that the surveillance cameras “DO NOT” provide additional security or curtail crime. And isn’t amazing that whenever a crime does occur when the gov’t or police overstep their lawful boundries the cameras were mysteriously not working. So much for accountability.

What was all this crap about the ‘great lame duck” Obama had. Anyone notice what his HSA is up to?
“Al Queda”, directly translated , means “the database”. We continue to use this bogeyman chase to justify the police state. IF anyone believes that all these 19 year olds, set up and bribed by the FBI to push the button on fake explosives are a “threat”, I have a bridge for them. And if anyone believes there is anything worth preserving in the democrats or Obama administration, I will argue with them as well. Notice there is no challenge in this article to the ridiculous premise that this is “justified” because of the “elevated” threat – apparently the administration is unaware of how widespread the ridicule for the FBI “stings” actually is. More likely, they just don’t care.

What was all this crap about the ‘great lame duck” Obama had. Anyone notice what his HSA is up to?
“Al Queda”, directly translated , means “the database”. We continue to use this bogeyman chase to justify the police state. IF anyone believes that all these 19 year olds, set up and bribed by the FBI to push the button on fake explosives are a “threat”, I have a bridge for them. And if anyone believes there is anything worth preserving in the democrats or Obama administration, I will argue with them as well. Notice there is no challenge in this article to the ridiculous premise that this is “justified” because of the “elevated” threat – apparently the administration is unaware of how widespread the ridicule for the FBI “stings” actually is. More likely, they just don’t care.

Despite all the cries of “Police state” and “Big Brother” active surveillance is the wave of the future. Count on it. Passive surveillance, where crimes get recorded on video and reviewed after the fact is going to be outdated. Security is going to be one of the top industries and employers.
It’s going to be the job of millions of people to sit and watch monitors and to alert the police of anything suspicious or any crime taking place. Police response is going to be immediate.
The technology is there, it’s happening, and that’s the way it’s going to be despite any and all objection.

Despite all the cries of “Police state” and “Big Brother” active surveillance is the wave of the future. Count on it. Passive surveillance, where crimes get recorded on video and reviewed after the fact is going to be outdated. Security is going to be one of the top industries and employers.
It’s going to be the job of millions of people to sit and watch monitors and to alert the police of anything suspicious or any crime taking place. Police response is going to be immediate.
The technology is there, it’s happening, and that’s the way it’s going to be despite any and all objection.

LOL…that’s exactly what Janet Napolitano is hoping will happen, because then she’ll be able to “scrutinize” things even more….

LOL…that’s exactly what Janet Napolitano is hoping will happen, because then she’ll be able to “scrutinize” things even more….

What you failed to mention is that bin Laden was, and probably still is under the CIA. Another interesting note, Operation Northwood (A CIA op proposed during the 60′s) bears a striking resemblance to what happened on 9/11. The only real difference to that op and what happened was that Muslim extremists were blamed, instead of Cuban’s.

What you failed to mention is that bin Laden was, and probably still is under the CIA. Another interesting note, Operation Northwood (A CIA op proposed during the 60′s) bears a striking resemblance to what happened on 9/11. The only real difference to that op and what happened was that Muslim extremists were blamed, instead of Cuban’s.

“It means, as we make the land borders harder to cross from a land border crossing standpoint, that we need to be looking out into our coasts and to the waters,” said Napolitano.

But what if al Qaeda tries to DRILL THROUGH THE EARTH to get into the United States, Janet??? Shouldn’t we try to cover the entire U.S. land mass with a Kevlar blanket?

“It means, as we make the land borders harder to cross from a land border crossing standpoint, that we need to be looking out into our coasts and to the waters,” said Napolitano.

But what if al Qaeda tries to DRILL THROUGH THE EARTH to get into the United States, Janet??? Shouldn’t we try to cover the entire U.S. land mass with a Kevlar blanket?

“When I use the term “fight” I don’t mean literally…”

Really? Why not?

“When I use the term “fight” I don’t mean literally…”

Really? Why not?

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I think we should station the national guard in every bathroom, only then will we be safe.

I think we should station the national guard in every bathroom, only then will we be safe.

I think we should station the national guard in every bathroom, only then will we be safe.

As the drill sarge will tell you when you hang with a group of your buddies: “Hey, if a grenade goes off, you’re all dead.”

As the drill sarge will tell you when you hang with a group of your buddies: “Hey, if a grenade goes off, you’re all dead.”

As the drill sarge will tell you when you hang with a group of your buddies: “Hey, if a grenade goes off, you’re all dead.”

Nice. It’s all about the fear.

Nice. It’s all about the fear.

Nice. It’s all about the fear.

Tiocfaidh ar la, baby….

Tiocfaidh ar la, baby….

Tiocfaidh ar la, baby….

Check out what year the TSA “porn” scanners were rolling out the door:

TSA Body Scanners Four Years Ago

http://www.h4ns.com/2010/11/tsa-body-scanners-four-years-ago.html

They just had to increase the “fear” to meet the money.

Check out what year the TSA “porn” scanners were rolling out the door:

TSA Body Scanners Four Years Ago

http://www.h4ns.com/2010/11/tsa-body-scanners-four-years-ago.html

They just had to increase the “fear” to meet the money.

It should be mandatory watching for all 300 million Americans.

Did you catch how intimidated that the BBC correspondents are of Israel? WTF? Does Israel control the media the world over?

It should be mandatory watching for all 300 million Americans.

Did you catch how intimidated that the BBC correspondents are of Israel? WTF? Does Israel control the media the world over?

“The overall message is everything is objectively better than it was a year ago, particularly in the aviation environment. But we’re also looking at addressing other areas,” Napolitano said.

This fucking hack! What’s next, cameras and audio transmitters in all of the rooms of our homes! This shit is going way too fucking far!

America, the country of PUSSIES!

“The overall message is everything is objectively better than it was a year ago, particularly in the aviation environment. But we’re also looking at addressing other areas,” Napolitano said.

This fucking hack! What’s next, cameras and audio transmitters in all of the rooms of our homes! This shit is going way too fucking far!

America, the country of PUSSIES!

Civil disobedience.

Civil disobedience.

They control communication, the constabulary, and spy at will. They used the power, at the beginning of the Iraq ramp up, to block west coast nuns, heading to DC to demonstrate against war with Iraq. A group of patriots, just staged a protest and were arrested, with nary a report from the oligarchs media. If a serf falls in a field, and no one hears them cry out, does it make any difference? Communication is the true gold, of freedom and power. Without balance, there is anarchy, or tyranny. The oligarchs will be relentless in their efforts to stifle the internet, and control the message. They are already pushing to abolish the FCC. They have the money, to pay stiffs like Limbaugh and Hannity, hundreds of millions of dollars a year to shill for them, to a brainwashed, go along to get along audience.

They control communication, the constabulary, and spy at will. They used the power, at the beginning of the Iraq ramp up, to block west coast nuns, heading to DC to demonstrate against war with Iraq. A group of patriots, just staged a protest and were arrested, with nary a report from the oligarchs media. If a serf falls in a field, and no one hears them cry out, does it make any difference? Communication is the true gold, of freedom and power. Without balance, there is anarchy, or tyranny. The oligarchs will be relentless in their efforts to stifle the internet, and control the message. They are already pushing to abolish the FCC. They have the money, to pay stiffs like Limbaugh and Hannity, hundreds of millions of dollars a year to shill for them, to a brainwashed, go along to get along audience.

we will bankrupt ourselfves in vain of absolute security…….
if you want total security,go to prison there you’re fed,clothed given medical care and so on…
the only thing lacking … is FREEDOM
D. D. Eisenhower

we will bankrupt ourselfves in vain of absolute security…….
if you want total security,go to prison there you’re fed,clothed given medical care and so on…
the only thing lacking … is FREEDOM
D. D. Eisenhower

we will bankrupt ourselfves in vain of absolute security…….
if you want total security,go to prison there you’re fed,clothed given medical care and so on…
the only thing lacking … is FREEDOM
D. D. Eisenhower

Don’t forget the bedroom, those sex toys might be a bomb in disguise…

Don’t forget the bedroom, those sex toys might be a bomb in disguise…

Want to counter “terrorism”??? Let’s have the CIA and half a dozen other secret organizations stop pissing them off. Next problem.

Want to counter “terrorism”??? Let’s have the CIA and half a dozen other secret organizations stop pissing them off. Next problem.

Don’t forget the gulf of Tonkin, that was a total scam as well. My father in law was on the USS Firedrake which was a key player there. He told me right before he died that under no circumstance am I to ever trust the feds, ever. He made me promise to protect his daughter when it came down, I’m thinking it’s close…

Don’t forget the gulf of Tonkin, that was a total scam as well. My father in law was on the USS Firedrake which was a key player there. He told me right before he died that under no circumstance am I to ever trust the feds, ever. He made me promise to protect his daughter when it came down, I’m thinking it’s close…

Dear Janet:

Engineering cars so they can’t go over 10 miles per hour will save 47,550 more lives a year than all of your security measures. Sure, it might be an inconvenience, but at least we will know we’re safe…

Dear Janet:

Engineering cars so they can’t go over 10 miles per hour will save 47,550 more lives a year than all of your security measures. Sure, it might be an inconvenience, but at least we will know we’re safe…

lets set up a business to rent bullet proof vests at all the major mall entrances? ka! ching! ka! ching!

lets set up a business to rent bullet proof vests at all the major mall entrances? ka! ching! ka! ching!

If your child wants a puppy from the pet shop at the mall then he will have to under go molestation by a tax payed TSA pedophile. <I:o)

If your child wants a puppy from the pet shop at the mall then he will have to under go molestation by a tax payed TSA pedophile. <I:o)

janet ya dumb bitch, Cage bush, cheney, rumsfeld, rice etc. “terrorism problem” solved.

janet ya dumb bitch, Cage bush, cheney, rumsfeld, rice etc. “terrorism problem” solved.

Welcome to 21st Century East Germany.

“It’s all for your own good Citizen.”

Welcome to 21st Century East Germany.

“It’s all for your own good Citizen.”

thanks for the link.

thanks for the link.

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The Econo-Lodge too???

The Econo-Lodge too???

This is Barney Fife security theatre.

Soon, you will not be able to eat a Big Mac without some extra from “Deliverance” sticking his finger on your prostate/cervix.

This is Barney Fife security theatre.

Soon, you will not be able to eat a Big Mac without some extra from “Deliverance” sticking his finger on your prostate/cervix.

Line up your children at the Kiddie Kavity Searck Kiosk.

Line up your children at the Kiddie Kavity Searck Kiosk.

Line up your children at the Kiddie Kavity Searck Kiosk.

Or just disband the CIA.

Or just disband the CIA.

Or just disband the CIA.

Anti-Terrorism is officially the new 21st century rise of Fascism.

Anti-Terrorism is officially the new 21st century rise of Fascism.

Anti-Terrorism is officially the new 21st century rise of Fascism.

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Bukkake Theater…

Only if the dumb-ass American people let it happen or, even more disturbing, welcome it.

I resemble that remark

I resemble that remark

I resemble that remark

I resemble that remark

given our long history of mall bombings by Muslims I can perfectly understand why they want to have cameras inside the mall’s.

But then again I asked myself what is that camera going to show? It’s probably going to show about 1/30 of a second of the explosion that blows up the mall

Let me know what part struck you the most. What got me were the comments from the two reps from the UK teevee stations, but the most revolting were the comments from the Pentagon sleaze bag.

Why don’t we build large impenetrable walls around all the shopping malls and airports, and also wall off all large corporations…and never let any of these things infect decent society again!

Then Americans could live happier, healthier, and far more fulfilling lives.

Great! We will be able to go to the mall and berate the sheeple who will feel “safe” because of this.

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Safety! Safety! Safety!

An article about the Microwave cannon:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/10/justice_dept_microwave_rifle/

I can’t believe some people are ok with this.

The fear spreads. The hallmark of a security state that operates against its own citizenry. Sieg Heil!

You do Indeed, Pally !

“As extremists struggle to circumvent tighter security at airports and search for new avenues…”

are they indeed? how does she know? FBI having new set-ups in development?

The ‘”No Tell Motel’” ???

This will only hurt…a little

This will only hurt…a little

Yep…Run the Infantry right through..

Yep…Run the Infantry right through..

Welcome to Stasi America. Down with Big Sis, support a national strike.

Welcome to Stasi America. Down with Big Sis, support a national strike.

If your governor lets them in……..youre cooked. States do have a right to refuse any fed mandated law that violates constitution, state constitution or the rights of citizens. Claiming its for security doesnt make it so. Why dont people wake up to their rights? Dont just cite “freedoom of speech”………look at all of your rights.

Get on your governor’s back about these things.

Who needs a first and fourth amendment, and that silly The Posse Comitatus Act.
Wouldn’t you rather be safe than free!!!!!
It is all an act to make us all accustomed to live in fear.
The only terrorists this country has ever known have occupied the White House, Senate and Congress.

Who needs a first and fourth amendment, and that silly The Posse Comitatus Act.
Wouldn’t you rather be safe than free!!!!!
It is all an act to make us all accustomed to live in fear.
The only terrorists this country has ever known have occupied the White House, Senate and Congress.

Hot box, we can get some pictures of those cute little chicks that hang in those malls and maybe if we are lucky one of the thugs working Montgomery Mall might not recognize Sis, then accost her and then feel her up in front of the throng.

Hot box, we can get some pictures of those cute little chicks that hang in those malls and maybe if we are lucky one of the thugs working Montgomery Mall might not recognize Sis, then accost her and then feel her up in front of the throng.

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The conspiracy theorists were right.

The conspiracy theorists were right.

If there we any REAL terrorists they would be attacking their enemies, US government officials and bankers. Since they’re not, it’s proof it’s all BS.

If there we any REAL terrorists they would be attacking their enemies, US government officials and bankers. Since they’re not, it’s proof it’s all BS.

Welcome to 1984
Now, bend over.

Welcome to 1984
Now, bend over.

Welcome to 1984
Now, bend over.

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We can stop the mall stuff fairly easily – buy everything (or as much as you can) online. Also notify ALL the stores in your mall of what you will be doing. When the stores in the malls see a large drop in sales, THEY will force the Gestapo to leave (and/or the mall will close for lack of business).

We can stop the mall stuff fairly easily – buy everything (or as much as you can) online. Also notify ALL the stores in your mall of what you will be doing. When the stores in the malls see a large drop in sales, THEY will force the Gestapo to leave (and/or the mall will close for lack of business).

If you want change to happen in our lifetime……demand a new (and independent) investigation into what really occurred on 9/11.

Nothing else offers the potential for real change and the chance for that honest national discussion that is so needed now.

Any idiot who knows just slightly more than what they were told by the government and media about that day, starts to quickly understand that exposing that fraud is our only hope to stop this new hellish world in its tracks.

Learn about 9/11………Support http://buildingwhat.org/

If you want change to happen in our lifetime……demand a new (and independent) investigation into what really occurred on 9/11.

Nothing else offers the potential for real change and the chance for that honest national discussion that is so needed now.

Any idiot who knows just slightly more than what they were told by the government and media about that day, starts to quickly understand that exposing that fraud is our only hope to stop this new hellish world in its tracks.

Learn about 9/11………Support http://buildingwhat.org/

If you want change to happen in our lifetime……demand a new (and independent) investigation into what really occurred on 9/11.

Nothing else offers the potential for real change and the chance for that honest national discussion that is so needed now.

Any idiot who knows just slightly more than what they were told by the government and media about that day, starts to quickly understand that exposing that fraud is our only hope to stop this new hellish world in its tracks.

Learn about 9/11………Support http://buildingwhat.org/

You’re right of course… that answer was…too… obvious. However, a much better solution.

Excellent point. But if you outlaw pedestrian crossings on all streets you would save around 15,000 lives….so together we could be saving around 67,550 lives per year!!

Not to mention the fact that in some states sodomy and fellatio/cunnilingus are illegal! just imagine all of those bedroom terrorists we can get rid of!

I would call my terrorist group “the scrubbing bubbles”

And outlaw cigarettes – there’s another 157,300 lives saved.
http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/types/lung

Great Chertoff can supply his scanners to every mall in the country, and we can get a full body scan before we shop. I love it!

no thanks

Big business wins again. Now our tax dollars are paying for their “mall cops”!

Big business wins again. Now our tax dollars are paying for their “mall cops”!

It’s getting where you can’t sneak a private toke….anywhere!

OMG… how horrific. The worst part for me was the revelation of corporate christian war crimes… that have gone… unanswered…. by anyone. We’ve got “one guy” in 300M that has the balls to try to bring down the war criminals??? What the hell is WRONG with the rest of the military… and civilian population??? I am passing this around to “everyone”. Again… thanks… it’s a bitch when we have to get the most pertinent information from (us).

It’s interesting that Operation Northwoods and Operation Mongoose are so unknown to 99% of the American public:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

These 1962 documents were only made public on November 18, 1997, by the John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Review Board, so it’s only been 13 years or so for Americans to find out about them and digest what this means. Takes time for knowledge to filter out to the Heartland.

Back in 1962 they were proposing using unmanned drone aircraft that would be painted and numbered to exactly duplicate civil registered aircraft, so they could blow it up for propaganda purposes, to outrage Americans and get them onboard for a war with Cuba .. and that’s just one of many such proposals.

The plan was drafted by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, signed by Chairman Lyman Lemnitzer and sent to the Secretary of Defense. The plan was rejected only at the level of President of the United States, John F. Kennedy. Imagine what happens when these kinds of plans are presented to Republican Presidents, especially ignorant ones like George W. Yeah, imagine what new propaganda tricks were possible in 2001, to get the American public outraged and calling for a war, after W. was elected based on a rightwing Supreme Court decision that overturned the Florida election results.

Note to all Yanks!!!
If you are interested in stopping all so called ‘Terrorist’ activities, the solution is very simple and straight forward. No need for massive ‘security’ expenditures, suppression of human rights and so on……simply STOP murdering other people, STOP invading and destroying their nations and STOP pillaging and plundering their lands!!! In other words stop your evil criminal activities and your support for them and then perhaps the world will become a safer place for everyone.
Besides these so called ‘security’ measures are as much for enhancing the ‘safety’ of Amerikans as Amerika’s murderous barbaric wars are for ‘Freedom’ and ‘Democracy’. There is no relation whatsoever. This enhanced ‘security’ is to strengthen the police-surveillance state apparatus for purposes of political and social repression.

If I can see it attached to a building or on top of a pole, it’s in the public space. Things in the public space invite questions:

Is anyone documenting where these new surveillance state cameras are popping up and displaying them on maps?

What is their effective range and resolution?

How long are the images/video stored, by whom, and how are they analyzed?

Are they actively monitored?

Do they record audio as well?

There is no need for secrecy on these cameras in the visual public space. In fact, it’s better not to hide what they do and how. I need to know the spec’s on these cameras for my own safety. If I know where they cover and how far, I can choose to travel within these areas, knowing I’m being watched and protected. Would I rather carry a cash deposit for my business to the bank along a route that is watched by police or along one that the police can react to after the fact?

Of course there are also all those pesky “rights” that need protecting, or something…

of course global…. do you think for one second that these rapacious sociopathic criminals would be happy with…. just us?

” fag” Is one of the few words that are automatically filtered…Please be more creative. Racial/gender/hate/misogynistic/violent comments will be moderated before they will post….we promote free speech, but we do have a few limits…Thanks, Raw mods (Markus)

Can we just install our “Big Brother” devices in all our rooms now? I am tired of waiting.

It is bitch when the most pertinent information is hidden and you have to search for it. When I find something pertinent, I try my best to pass it around.

http://my.firedoglake.com/ghostof911/2010/12/27/john-pilgers-the-war-you-dont-see/

I don’t shop stores in malls. I prefer the little mom and pop stores.

…..as soon as they got it just right….What happened?

A nice, fine propaganda piece that makes Hitler smile in his grave.

When will the day come when journalist after journalist will stand up to their masters and commit a full-scale mutiny against THEIR owners, yes, the very people who enslave them and their families?

Another candle for St. Janet.

I’m out…have been for years. I’ve been waiting to be nostalgic but actually, I’ve become grateful.
All that’s left from the good old days…is SONIC.

Osama Bin Laden has been dead for over 5 years & this Cow the new Janet Reno is still digging his dead ass up to further her phony ass agenda

Email , Call Your Reps & Express outrage for this HORSESHIT!

When are We the People gonna wake up to this phony ass “War on Terror” and realize it is a war on YOUR FREEDOM ! ! ! I don’t know who said it but, “The enemy of my enemy is my friend”, fits this situation very well. These damn Khazar bankers are tryin ta get Christian nations to war against Islam, so “they” can rule over what little is left under “their” communist cabal. Repent, turn to God Almighty and Pray, Pray and Pray some more, that He will open OUR people’s eyes to the truth, and vanquish OUR enemies ! ! ! http://scripturesforamerica.org/ Join Pastor Peters in the battle NOW while there is still time.

Taxes primarily exist to ensure that the poor, middle class, and rich pay proper tribute to the mega rich. Providing necessary government services comes second.

Anyone doubting this can look to any cash strapped municipality and notice that while fire and police coverage may be cut, bond payments never are.

We see it now…” Shopping was horriffic…they grabbed little Jennys’ hoo-ha!” “The handsome young guy at the East Security door asked for my phone number.” “Don’t go there on a Saturday! Its just a quick squeeze…a pat on the ass… and you’re out. Its nothing anymore.” ” I try to go to the same inspector each time…she’s gentle…” “We’re having a ‘You grope me’ party..Kind of advance pat downs to beat the crowds.” “We’ll always have…Wal Mart!”

Because I oppose all forms of violence & bloodshed. That’s why. And anybody who resorts to those measures is not on the same side as I am. It’s only through Peaceful Civil Disobedience will we achieve the results we desire. The power is in knowledge, our voice and using the laws of the land to bring about real change. Yes the system is flawed but if we continue to unite we will have certain victory in the end. I’ve chosen my side of non-violence and I encourage “ALL” to do the same. In fact, I never had to make a choice…I’ve always been on the side of right.

Doesn’t matter. Government surveillance will continue to expand until it is everywhere- including right outside the mom and pop stores. Today, that bitches’ face may be on the Walmart monitors, tomorrow “big sister” will be on monitors everywhere.

Today, people say “just don’t fly”; but tomorrow there will be checkpoints at train stations and bus stops. Then random pedestrian friskings and roadway checkpoints.

This is just another step in the encroaching American police state. The American people need to “draw a line in the sand” and say NO MORE. This tyranny needs to stop.

This is being done to get ready for the financial implosion of the economy.

While I agree with comments here, about being overly careful in shopping malls is unnecessary.
Well, turn the situation around, what if, they didn’t think of putting more security cameras and then something tragic happened again, we’d all be yelling at our government, asking for Janet Reno to step down because she and her department were not dilligent enough! Can’t have it both ways – I’d rather be cautious than be like a bull – full speed ahead. Just look at what might have happened in NYC this past spring with that car bomb. Good thing people start to take notice of unsual vehicles, etc. It certainly saved lives.

‘Big Butch’ can kiss my ass – I’m not taking my pants off for Israel, for our Neocons, or for our Neocon/Israeli-dicated policies that are are the reason people are attacking us to get back at Rep Howard Berman, Sen Joe Lieberman – or any of the rest of the rotten pro-Israel Neocons

Sounds great! However, the stores would LOVE to just drop all their employees at the mall, laying them off. I would think companies have been using surveillance cameras, and or electronic tags on their merchandise for over 40 years.

and being totally molested in prison, unless you happen to be 6’4″ and a bully.

get your head out of your ass…go print your 12 year old mentality comments on Fox or huff post and see what happens…you will be all good on stormfront as long as you’re white…
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/

… maybe not solved , but a damn good start .

paranoia big destroya

brainwashed sheepie, happy to watch their civil rights tossed into a dumpster

I went to a popular Orlando mall a few days before Christmas and at the entrance of the mall was a huge “homeland security” container like structure – sort of like a big portable classroom type thing – all spray painted up with homeland security and Orange County Sheriff’s dept info all over it. There was a mobile watch tower in the parking lot. There were cops everywhere, on scooters – all dressed in black, with helmets, cruising throughout the mall. There were cops in the restrooms. I’ve never seen anything like it but it sure looked like police state tactics. It was horrible. The first time I see a monitor with big sis barking out “messages” in walmart (or any other retail outlet) it will be the last time I set foot in that store.

I went to a popular Orlando mall a few days before Christmas and at the entrance of the mall was a huge “homeland security” container like structure – sort of like a big portable classroom type thing – all spray painted up with homeland security and Orange County Sheriff’s dept info all over it. There was a mobile watch tower in the parking lot. There were cops everywhere, on scooters – all dressed in black, with helmets, cruising throughout the mall. There were cops in the restrooms. I’ve never seen anything like it but it sure looked like police state tactics. It was horrible. The first time I see a monitor with big sis barking out “messages” in walmart (or any other retail outlet) it will be the last time I set foot in that store.

“There is no need for secrecy on these cameras in the visual public space. ”

BWAH-HA-HA What an ignorant fool!

Yes indeed trust these companies with your likeness

What will you say when surveillance footage is used to determine you are not at home so it is safe to burgle your belongings?

What will you say when you are arrested on trumped-up charges and the evidence is doctored video footage? All they have to do is change the timestamp and suddenly you are the guilty party.

You are demented for thinking that Big Brother is your cuddly protective friend.

“There is no need for secrecy on these cameras in the visual public space. ”

BWAH-HA-HA What an ignorant fool!

Yes indeed trust these companies with your likeness

What will you say when surveillance footage is used to determine you are not at home so it is safe to burgle your belongings?

What will you say when you are arrested on trumped-up charges and the evidence is doctored video footage? All they have to do is change the timestamp and suddenly you are the guilty party.

You are demented for thinking that Big Brother is your cuddly protective friend.

Surely you don’t suggest it’s our pro-Israel foreign policies and wars we are carrying out for the Neocon/Israeli ‘Clean Break Plan’ that are getting us counterattacked?

LOL! – next you’ll be telling us that an US/Israeli attack on Iran will DIMINISH our coward’s security rather than ENHANCE it

Get a grip cowboy

Surely you don’t suggest it’s our pro-Israel foreign policies and wars we are carrying out for the Neocon/Israeli ‘Clean Break Plan’ that are getting us counterattacked?

LOL! – next you’ll be telling us that an US/Israeli attack on Iran will DIMINISH our coward’s security rather than ENHANCE it

Get a grip cowboy

Yet we receive thousands if not millions of box cars of products from foreign countries , even some on the so-called terrorist list and they are not checked.

Yet we receive thousands if not millions of box cars of products from foreign countries , even some on the so-called terrorist list and they are not checked.

“next you’ll be telling us that an US/Israeli attack on Iran will DIMINISH our coward’s security rather than ENHANCE it”

Damned right it will

The price of oil will quadruple overnight

The terrorist response will make 9/11 look like just another day.

Without UN approval the rest of the world will boycott us too.

Yeah just destroy our economy and start another world war just to soothe your itch.

“next you’ll be telling us that an US/Israeli attack on Iran will DIMINISH our coward’s security rather than ENHANCE it”

Damned right it will

The price of oil will quadruple overnight

The terrorist response will make 9/11 look like just another day.

Without UN approval the rest of the world will boycott us too.

Yeah just destroy our economy and start another world war just to soothe your itch.

What will you do when you run out of places to shop?

What will you do when you run out of places to shop?

Avoid the plague of airports, malls, and big box stores. Don’t feed the fascist beast one thin dime. Eat good local food from pure organic farms. PRE-cycle, RE-cycle, BI-cycle. Share hours–build community.

Avoid the plague of airports, malls, and big box stores. Don’t feed the fascist beast one thin dime. Eat good local food from pure organic farms. PRE-cycle, RE-cycle, BI-cycle. Share hours–build community.

That’s right. Ignore the whole thing. Your silence is your acceptance.

That’s right. Ignore the whole thing. Your silence is your acceptance.

The NY example was caught by a taxi driver. The cameras and scanners just make big money for the manipulating fear mongering low life that sells them. Those dirty fascists do not save lives… they kill — Their “unnecessary” war on Iraq was “based on a series of lies”, and it killed more than ONE MILLION Iraqis, mostly women and children, There was “zero” real intelligence linking Iraq to 9-11. Wolfowitz and others will surely be put on trial for their colossal crimes in pushing that monstrous war.

Just read what Joint Chiefs chairman Gen Hugh Shelton says about that war.

The NY example was caught by a taxi driver. The cameras and scanners just make big money for the manipulating fear mongering low life that sells them. Those dirty fascists do not save lives… they kill — Their “unnecessary” war on Iraq was “based on a series of lies”, and it killed more than ONE MILLION Iraqis, mostly women and children, There was “zero” real intelligence linking Iraq to 9-11. Wolfowitz and others will surely be put on trial for their colossal crimes in pushing that monstrous war.

Just read what Joint Chiefs chairman Gen Hugh Shelton says about that war.

“You are demented for thinking that Big Brother is your cuddly protective friend.”

Demented, perhaps, but he’s no friend of mine.

I’m making the argument for full disclosure about what the cameras do, who runs them and how, since they aren’t going away any time soon.

I demand transparency for these devices and their masters, as transparency of my actions and my life is demanded of me.

You bring up a great point: If you know where I am, then you know where I’m not. Why do a no-knock search when I’m home? Why not wait til you know I’m gone? It’s easier to plant evidence that way (for example).

I am not in favor of the all-seeing eye. I’m not afraid of it, either.

“You are demented for thinking that Big Brother is your cuddly protective friend.”

Demented, perhaps, but he’s no friend of mine.

I’m making the argument for full disclosure about what the cameras do, who runs them and how, since they aren’t going away any time soon.

I demand transparency for these devices and their masters, as transparency of my actions and my life is demanded of me.

You bring up a great point: If you know where I am, then you know where I’m not. Why do a no-knock search when I’m home? Why not wait til you know I’m gone? It’s easier to plant evidence that way (for example).

I am not in favor of the all-seeing eye. I’m not afraid of it, either.

“You are demented for thinking that Big Brother is your cuddly protective friend.”

Demented, perhaps, but he’s no friend of mine.

I’m making the argument for full disclosure about what the cameras do, who runs them and how, since they aren’t going away any time soon.

I demand transparency for these devices and their masters, as transparency of my actions and my life is demanded of me.

You bring up a great point: If you know where I am, then you know where I’m not. Why do a no-knock search when I’m home? Why not wait til you know I’m gone? It’s easier to plant evidence that way (for example).

I am not in favor of the all-seeing eye. I’m not afraid of it, either.

“With its grace and carelessness it seemed to annihilate a whole culture, a whole system of thought, as though Big Brother and the Party and the Thought Police could all be swept into nothingness by a single splendid movement of the arm.” 1984 George Orwell

“With its grace and carelessness it seemed to annihilate a whole culture, a whole system of thought, as though Big Brother and the Party and the Thought Police could all be swept into nothingness by a single splendid movement of the arm.” 1984 George Orwell

“With its grace and carelessness it seemed to annihilate a whole culture, a whole system of thought, as though Big Brother and the Party and the Thought Police could all be swept into nothingness by a single splendid movement of the arm.” 1984 George Orwell

There is a difference between the vigilance of aware citizens and a surveillance state.

One is security by the people, for the people. The other is securing the people, but in the shackles of a controlling government.

I would rather have freedom with a little uncertainty than certainty without freedom.

There is a difference between the vigilance of aware citizens and a surveillance state.

One is security by the people, for the people. The other is securing the people, but in the shackles of a controlling government.

I would rather have freedom with a little uncertainty than certainty without freedom.

There is a difference between the vigilance of aware citizens and a surveillance state.

One is security by the people, for the people. The other is securing the people, but in the shackles of a controlling government.

I would rather have freedom with a little uncertainty than certainty without freedom.

Avoid the plague of airports, malls, and big box stores. Don’t feed the fascist beast one thin dime. Eat good local food from pure organic farms. PRE-cycle, RE-cycle, BI-cycle. Share hours–build community.
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Vote with your money. It’s a great start, but not sufficient by itself.

Janet Napolitano and her DHS and TSA are bigger threats to the USA than the Arab ‘insurgents’! Let’s kick her and her goon squads the #3!! out of our nation!

Ya think?….

Dream on fool

So tell me you want a national registry of video cameras? How many bureaucrats do you want to hire? How many hundreds of millions of $5 cheap video cameras are out there?

I’m with you Michael Gaston. Don’t need or want TV;haven’t for years. Only trouble is, now with budgets getting crunched everywhere, public libraries are getting closed, too. So far the radio is still an available safe source of news and enertainment (except for the loss of Dave Niehaus).

Ha! Our gov attended the last Bilderberg meeting. Are there ANY non-CFR governors in America?

A Suicide bomber makes any and all cameras and scanners null and void. Oh wait, at least they’ll know what he looked like after wards? Epic Fail. The entire underwear bomber is nothing short of a joke. A guy gets on a plane without a passport, in another country, and all of a sudden it’s treated as a break down in our country? Does any one stop and THINK for just one moment all the ways in which someone can kill MASS amounts of people? How about just making a remote control plane and flying it into a sports stadium? For the sake of length, I’ll stop there. Point made.

I hope people are not this naive regarding the war on terror. If you actually think that terrorism is a full fledged war on the United States, you better wake up and do your homework. Most all of it is CIA sponsored. Rather than believe me or refute me, look it up. Look up Al-Qeada CIA Tim Osman.

Don’t be a freaking loser who just schleps through life believing what you want to believe because it makes your happy little world go around. Turn of the TV and detoxify.

A Suicide bomber makes any and all cameras and scanners null and void. Oh wait, at least they’ll know what he looked like after wards? Epic Fail. The entire underwear bomber is nothing short of a joke. A guy gets on a plane without a passport, in another country, and all of a sudden it’s treated as a break down in our country? Does any one stop and THINK for just one moment all the ways in which someone can kill MASS amounts of people? How about just making a remote control plane and flying it into a sports stadium? For the sake of length, I’ll stop there. Point made.

I hope people are not this naive regarding the war on terror. If you actually think that terrorism is a full fledged war on the United States, you better wake up and do your homework. Most all of it is CIA sponsored. Rather than believe me or refute me, look it up. Look up Al-Qeada CIA Tim Osman.

Don’t be a freaking loser who just schleps through life believing what you want to believe because it makes your happy little world go around. Turn of the TV and detoxify.

A Suicide bomber makes any and all cameras and scanners null and void. Oh wait, at least they’ll know what he looked like after wards? Epic Fail. The entire underwear bomber is nothing short of a joke. A guy gets on a plane without a passport, in another country, and all of a sudden it’s treated as a break down in our country? Does any one stop and THINK for just one moment all the ways in which someone can kill MASS amounts of people? How about just making a remote control plane and flying it into a sports stadium? For the sake of length, I’ll stop there. Point made.

I hope people are not this naive regarding the war on terror. If you actually think that terrorism is a full fledged war on the United States, you better wake up and do your homework. Most all of it is CIA sponsored. Rather than believe me or refute me, look it up. Look up Al-Qeada CIA Tim Osman.

Don’t be a freaking loser who just schleps through life believing what you want to believe because it makes your happy little world go around. Turn of the TV and detoxify.

A Suicide bomber makes any and all cameras and scanners null and void. Oh wait, at least they’ll know what he looked like after wards? Epic Fail. The entire underwear bomber is nothing short of a joke. A guy gets on a plane without a passport, in another country, and all of a sudden it’s treated as a break down in our country? Does any one stop and THINK for just one moment all the ways in which someone can kill MASS amounts of people? How about just making a remote control plane and flying it into a sports stadium? For the sake of length, I’ll stop there. Point made.

I hope people are not this naive regarding the war on terror. If you actually think that terrorism is a full fledged war on the United States, you better wake up and do your homework. Most all of it is CIA sponsored. Rather than believe me or refute me, look it up. Look up Al-Qeada CIA Tim Osman.

Don’t be a freaking loser who just schleps through life believing what you want to believe because it makes your happy little world go around. Turn of the TV and detoxify.

You eat those words after an attack. Idiot.

You eat those words after an attack. Idiot.

You eat those words after an attack. Idiot.

You eat those words after an attack. Idiot.

Better go duck tape your windows!

Implants will be cheaper and more effective. Maybe we have them already? How would you know?

But I don’t recommend toking at the mall! Mall is total buzzkill.

I have to disagree. Actions speak louder than words. Actions make words more meaningful. Action isn’t silence. Quite the opposite. Loud Blabbermouthing with no substance goes nowhere. Money where the mouth is.

Al-Qaeda doesn’t even exist, it’s convenient tool to bring fascism to the US and it’s working.

Stop by my house anytime.

You can’t have freedom and demand that your government to keep you safe. It’s a choice, Freedom or Safety. Just know that no Foriegn army could ever invade US soil because its citizens are armed greater than all the worlds armies combined. God bless the US Constitution!

Le Bête du Gévaudan ( http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%AAte_du_G%C3%A9vaudan ) it will attack the Americans soon.

:o)

Le Bête du Gévaudan ( http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%AAte_du_G%C3%A9vaudan ) it will attack the Americans soon.

:o)

Le Bête du Gévaudan ( http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%AAte_du_G%C3%A9vaudan ) it will attack the Americans soon.

:o)

the attacks were organised by the government, stop being a silly sheep

the attacks were organised by the government, stop being a silly sheep

the attacks were organised by the government, stop being a silly sheep

when do we all get yellow stars, tattoos, and have to show our “papers” everywhere we go?

I’m afraid I’ll have to agree with you.

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The Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, these societies were also security states. The only reason a country needs such security is when the country is oppressing people, either domestically or as a colonial power. If the U.S. was not running roughshod on the world, there would be no need for this. Bring our troops home, close the bases overseas, stop the wars, and *** let the corporations pay for their own cost of doing business. *** Once that is done the U.S. will become, once again, as safe as Switzerland, or New Zealand, or any of the other non-military, non-colonial, non-interventionists wealthy countries. Heck, we would probably even be able to go back to society that doesn’t worry about locking its doors and windows all the time. Corruption starts at the top, but it trickles down fast. When a country’s presidents seeks the power to murder indiscriminately, it only sets a precedent for every thug on the street that murder is acceptable.

The Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, these societies were also security states. The only reason a country needs such security is when the country is oppressing people, either domestically or as a colonial power. If the U.S. was not running roughshod on the world, there would be no need for this. Bring our troops home, close the bases overseas, stop the wars, and *** let the corporations pay for their own cost of doing business. *** Once that is done the U.S. will become, once again, as safe as Switzerland, or New Zealand, or any of the other non-military, non-colonial, non-interventionists wealthy countries. Heck, we would probably even be able to go back to society that doesn’t worry about locking its doors and windows all the time. Corruption starts at the top, but it trickles down fast. When a country’s presidents seeks the power to murder indiscriminately, it only sets a precedent for every thug on the street that murder is acceptable.

Please lets not act like Republicans are the only warmongers. Clinton sent our troops into live-fire more frequently than any president before him. Putting blue helmets on our soldiers doesn’t make them peaceful just more Orwellianly named.

Outlaw cars and save another 40,000…outlaw DRUGS and save – oh wait. Guess laws can’t always solve a problem like they say they will…