First they came for the Muslims, but I was not a Muslim….

First they came for the Muslims, but I was not a Muslim….

First of all, “Shoebat?”

Paints a picture.

Children can be rehabilitated, and I don’t even like kids, but that’s just wrong.

Second, when you’re talking about an Anti-Christ of any stripe, you need to be immediately dismissed as a fraud.

Education is the real key here, which means disrespecting their ancient, sixth century traditions. The Middle East needs to be dragged out of the past and into the present with the rest of us, starting with the Saudis. Enough is enough already. You know how we gain leverage? Renewable energy.

First of all, “Shoebat?”

Paints a picture.

Children can be rehabilitated, and I don’t even like kids, but that’s just wrong.

Second, when you’re talking about an Anti-Christ of any stripe, you need to be immediately dismissed as a fraud.

Education is the real key here, which means disrespecting their ancient, sixth century traditions. The Middle East needs to be dragged out of the past and into the present with the rest of us, starting with the Saudis. Enough is enough already. You know how we gain leverage? Renewable energy.

The New York Times reports that at a meeting of Moslems, the Christian problem was up for discussion, and one noted peace activist was heard to say – peace is only possible when the Christians and all Christian children are put to the knife. The Times devoted a full page to the cries of outrage by offended readers.

The New York Times reports that at a meeting of Moslems, the Christian problem was up for discussion, and one noted peace activist was heard to say – peace is only possible when the Christians and all Christian children are put to the knife. The Times devoted a full page to the cries of outrage by offended readers.

Probably the best solution would be to kill all Americans first…

That way there would be lasting peace

Probably the best solution would be to kill all Americans first…

That way there would be lasting peace

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Wasn’t it the French Witchfinder General who said “Kill them all – God will know His own…” during the Inquisition? I see things really haven’t changed all that much for humanity over the intervening six hundred years…

Wasn’t it the French Witchfinder General who said “Kill them all – God will know His own…” during the Inquisition? I see things really haven’t changed all that much for humanity over the intervening six hundred years…

Shoebat is your typical god-bothering conman. He was never a terrorist, although it is possible he may have pissed in a toilet once used by a PLO member.

Shoebat is your typical god-bothering conman. He was never a terrorist, although it is possible he may have pissed in a toilet once used by a PLO member.

God forbid we operate the same way muslim terrorists do because that’s what they do to us.

God forbid we operate the same way muslim terrorists do because that’s what they do to us.

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An expert? Well there is nothing like a conman hot on the trail of suckers. Better yet when the suckers call you and ask for more cons! But who are the suckers in this case? It’s you and I who through taxes surely have helped to pay speaking fees, and if we didn’t back door the payment through taxes spent for such crap, we will still be the suckers in the end who will suffer under the mindless hate think that can only spread. The helter skelter rush to be the defenders against evil(tm) has poisoned the mind and the rational thought of any once previously concerned with the duty to uphold the Constitution. There is so much damn money to be had if spent on security concerns. As was posted before by Pj, “First they came for the Muslims, but I was not a Muslim…”

An expert? Well there is nothing like a conman hot on the trail of suckers. Better yet when the suckers call you and ask for more cons! But who are the suckers in this case? It’s you and I who through taxes surely have helped to pay speaking fees, and if we didn’t back door the payment through taxes spent for such crap, we will still be the suckers in the end who will suffer under the mindless hate think that can only spread. The helter skelter rush to be the defenders against evil(tm) has poisoned the mind and the rational thought of any once previously concerned with the duty to uphold the Constitution. There is so much damn money to be had if spent on security concerns. As was posted before by Pj, “First they came for the Muslims, but I was not a Muslim…”

Wow, and they say that 911 Truthers are dangerous? It sounds to me like those who promote the fake war on terror are continually the people who are dangerous. Wake up America! These scum calling for murder are EVIL!

Wow, and they say that 911 Truthers are dangerous? It sounds to me like those who promote the fake war on terror are continually the people who are dangerous. Wake up America! These scum calling for murder are EVIL!

Funny, they’re thinking the same thing.
I think we’re winning the child casualty war though.

Funny, they’re thinking the same thing.
I think we’re winning the child casualty war though.

Evil begets evil, terrorism begets terrorism, hate begets hate. 911 was an inside job set up to foster a fake war on terror and promote the Military-Industrial Complex and keep the funding rolling in. They make money on murder.

Evil begets evil, terrorism begets terrorism, hate begets hate. 911 was an inside job set up to foster a fake war on terror and promote the Military-Industrial Complex and keep the funding rolling in. They make money on murder.

“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.” — Friedrich Nietzsche

“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.” — Friedrich Nietzsche

“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.” — Friedrich Nietzsche

speaking hypothetically of course … say your country was being occupied by savage forces of a Fascist State … and some overzealous profiter wannabee was running around wanting to turn the place into a walmart America … could ya blame folks for separating him from his head ?

speaking hypothetically of course … say your country was being occupied by savage forces of a Fascist State … and some overzealous profiter wannabee was running around wanting to turn the place into a walmart America … could ya blame folks for separating him from his head ?

speaking hypothetically of course … say your country was being occupied by savage forces of a Fascist State … and some overzealous profiter wannabee was running around wanting to turn the place into a walmart America … could ya blame folks for separating him from his head ?

Well Riker, if you haven’t been paying attention the last two years, the answer to “Who has been planning attacks on our country?” is “conservative christians” like yourself. Let’s see how your logic fits now.

Well Riker, if you haven’t been paying attention the last two years, the answer to “Who has been planning attacks on our country?” is “conservative christians” like yourself. Let’s see how your logic fits now.

Well Riker, if you haven’t been paying attention the last two years, the answer to “Who has been planning attacks on our country?” is “conservative christians” like yourself. Let’s see how your logic fits now.

i think that this is what the crazy “birthers” secretly believe and discuss amongst themselves behind closed doors — that obama is the anti-christ, and that it proves the end of days is near.

i think that this is what the crazy “birthers” secretly believe and discuss amongst themselves behind closed doors — that obama is the anti-christ, and that it proves the end of days is near.

i think that this is what the crazy “birthers” secretly believe and discuss amongst themselves behind closed doors — that obama is the anti-christ, and that it proves the end of days is near.

Is this guy related to “curveball”?

Is this guy related to “curveball”?

Is this guy related to “curveball”?

We already did this with the KKK. Are we going to repeat that horrible mistake.

We already did this with the KKK. Are we going to repeat that horrible mistake.

We already did this with the KKK. Are we going to repeat that horrible mistake.

I’m sure that there are all sorts of right-wing moonbats that have wormed their way into the Homeland Security-related apparatus. That being said, I would never trust a report from Chip Berlet that was based on anonymous sources.

Nearly 100 people, mostly Christians, were killed around the world by muslim murderers on 24 & 25 December, 2010. They are killing our families. Wake up America, they are coming for our children, while we ring our hands and wonder what to do.

Showboat is a ruse, and, not that it matters, but he trips my gaydar in that fundamentalist Christian moustache sort of way.

Don’t trust any contractor connected with israel. In an act of insubordination, Paul Wolfowitz pushed war on Iraq “based on a series of lies”, and more than a million Iraqis were killed, mostly women and children.

Obama wake up, they are everywhere and they are as evil as everyone on the left has been telling you!

U.S. & Israeli govts did 9/11. Muslims didn’t do 9/11. There is not a shred of evidence of the “official” 9/11 story that “muslims did 9/11″. There is plenty of evidence that U.S. & Israeli govts did 9/11 and blamed Muslims. As is happening with all the fabricated terror since, to keep alive the MYTH that Muslims did 9/11.

Pop Quiz which group of people committed more violent acts in the US since Obama was elected?

1. Al Qaeda
2. Right Wing Gun lovers & Tax haters

A. 2

Who gives a fuck, Do you really expect me to cry for ” 100 people”,while the christian crusaders bodycount of Bush Obama reaches almost a million “brown people”…….

Get something else to whine over, you hyper-emotional windbag.

You have shit for brains. Zionists and stupid people like you are the problem, not Muslims.

Lol, I was expecting Lil “exterminationist in chief” Chip, to let us know about his intense desire of seeing all Muslims marched to death camps.

Lil “exterminationist in chief” Chip, never disappoints you

How many muslims have been murdered by U.S/western forces or their proxies in the last 50 years. They have good reason to be pissed off. Wake up, Moron, as long as westerners keep murdering muslim children, muslims will keep on retaliating.

Ok – Barack Obama and Eric Holder have put a kill order on Anwar al Awlaki. The President of the US and the Attorney General have ordered this. They are using drone strikes at a rate far greater than anyone previously.

Do you see the irony of this petty article.

It’s ok for your god Obama to say kill Islamic terrorists and actually do it via drones, but not for others to say it?

Huffpost is just doing the work of CAIR who is the group complaining about law enforcement being advised to actually enforce the law and fight the Islamic terrorists who continue trying to kill Americans.

Even Obama is ordering kills. Idiots.

if #1 includes all acts of violence or disrupted plots by Muslims, then we should list them out, and see what list is longer

hint, it won’t be #2

Boy! If that won’t blow your deal with Jesus, what will?

The US government has killed more innocent people than all the so call terror acts committed by Muslims.

A sure prescription to make more terrorists is for us to kill innocent family members. Others in the family grow up with hate and disrespect for us and our way of life. By attacking Iraq and starting an unjust war, we did just that. We have produced many more world terrorists than we ever had. Where does it stop.

Now any disagreement with the established powers lead to a person becoming labeled a terrorist.Certainly, George Washington or even Martin Luther King were terrorists with our recent definitions. Seems we have had terror and terrorists since the beginning of time and recently we have dipped below the curve in the way we deal with it. We are causing what we say we are trying to rid from society! Maybe, just maybe, we Americans ourselves are the terrorists!

OK, yeah, I clicked on the link to Shoebat’s website. Kee-rist almighty! Why do all reichwing nutball websites look like they were desinged in freaking 1997?

Seriously, Shoebat, no one sane uses blinking text nowadays.

OK, yeah, I clicked on the link to Shoebat’s website. Kee-rist almighty! Why do all reichwing nutball websites look like they were desinged in freaking 1997?

Seriously, Shoebat, no one sane uses blinking text nowadays.

That would be statistically insignificant, if it was even true, but it’s not.

That would be statistically insignificant, if it was even true, but it’s not.

Turn bush cheney rumsfeld rice etc over to them……..

Turn bush cheney rumsfeld rice etc over to them……..

Walid Shoebat & The loony racist brigade ,Featuring:

Lt General Boykin, the Christian soldier mental case who said,he saw the specter of Satan over Mogadishu-Somalia, & Robert Spencer, the crackpot conspiracy theorist who hold a visceral hatred for Arabs, but looks like an Arab,lol

great. more hate and fear mongering. moving right along!

For the radical right-wing in our country, Muslims are the new “Commies.” They have simply replaced one bogeyman for another to try to whip up support for financing our military-industrial complex on into the indefinite future.

Most of the readers of RawStory can see through this rubbish, fortunately. We all need to do more to call it out to educate the general public the dangers of nut-jobs like Shoebat.

What if someone proposed to kill militant Anti-terror experts, including their children?

Another Dingbat.

Turn over a rock, and self described “experts” will scuttle around.

This clown will milk the depraved for whatever he can swindle from them, telling them what they want to hear.

The ICTOA, which sponsored the Las Vegas conference, is a lot more scary than Shoebat.

http://www.ictoa.org/

They tried the same thing with the Jews. Of course Hitler didn’t have the flashy propaganda machine that the western empire enjoys today. The question that is never raised in the MSM is why do they hate us. I would think it has less to do with the freedoms we used to have, and more to do with us bombing the crap out of them. Also when your empire sends it’s troops from thousands of miles away to occupy your homeland. That tends to piss people off.

Make a long answer short, the only way you can guarantee the war on terror will continue is to kill children and seriously that is the only reason to kill children, to inflame hostilities.

We don’t need any more LIAR “truth tellers” in this world.
People are stupid to believe anyone spouting ANY extremism.
The includes political & religious. Enough of their GARBAGE!

Kill them all, and let god sort them out.

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A room full of decorated officers clapping right after they where told to shoot children.
These police need professional help.

Kill all the psychotic fear-mongering extremists? Good idea! Are you adding your name to the list?

Woof!

That’s an excellent reason for young Muslim men to think twice before fighting Americans

That’s an excellent reason for young Muslim men to think twice before fighting Americans

That’s an excellent reason for young Muslim men to think twice before fighting Americans

That’s an excellent reason for young Muslim men to think twice before fighting Americans

Your last point is so spot on, yet too easily passed over by all of these people who talk about this phony war on terror. In the 60s, 70s and 80s people from Afghanistan and Pakistan immigrated to the US and assimilated. Now because of our invasion of their land,the destruction of their agriculture, the killing and maiming of their civilians all for an elusive and some like me might argue imaginary foe, they are a disenchanted, perhaps disenfranchised group that could potentially breed people who are not too fond of us anymore. I’m sure there are many an Iraqi living someplace other than in their home in Iraq who’re harboring a lot of pent up anger and frustration over the disruption of their lives our invasion caused them so many years ago and want to settle scores in ways that only they can understand. Now along comes this cottage industry of “experts” who further inflame passions and speak in terms we once considered illegal of more destruction and mayhem. I betcha’ this character gets a lot of money to spout his racist, biblical harangue…we all know ‘money talks and bull$hit walks’ is the rule of law of today’s patriot. The decline of America began the day we accepted the idea that ‘the rule of law’ only applies to some and not others; and how long ago was that?

Your last point is so spot on, yet too easily passed over by all of these people who talk about this phony war on terror. In the 60s, 70s and 80s people from Afghanistan and Pakistan immigrated to the US and assimilated. Now because of our invasion of their land,the destruction of their agriculture, the killing and maiming of their civilians all for an elusive and some like me might argue imaginary foe, they are a disenchanted, perhaps disenfranchised group that could potentially breed people who are not too fond of us anymore. I’m sure there are many an Iraqi living someplace other than in their home in Iraq who’re harboring a lot of pent up anger and frustration over the disruption of their lives our invasion caused them so many years ago and want to settle scores in ways that only they can understand. Now along comes this cottage industry of “experts” who further inflame passions and speak in terms we once considered illegal of more destruction and mayhem. I betcha’ this character gets a lot of money to spout his racist, biblical harangue…we all know ‘money talks and bull$hit walks’ is the rule of law of today’s patriot. The decline of America began the day we accepted the idea that ‘the rule of law’ only applies to some and not others; and how long ago was that?

Your last point is so spot on, yet too easily passed over by all of these people who talk about this phony war on terror. In the 60s, 70s and 80s people from Afghanistan and Pakistan immigrated to the US and assimilated. Now because of our invasion of their land,the destruction of their agriculture, the killing and maiming of their civilians all for an elusive and some like me might argue imaginary foe, they are a disenchanted, perhaps disenfranchised group that could potentially breed people who are not too fond of us anymore. I’m sure there are many an Iraqi living someplace other than in their home in Iraq who’re harboring a lot of pent up anger and frustration over the disruption of their lives our invasion caused them so many years ago and want to settle scores in ways that only they can understand. Now along comes this cottage industry of “experts” who further inflame passions and speak in terms we once considered illegal of more destruction and mayhem. I betcha’ this character gets a lot of money to spout his racist, biblical harangue…we all know ‘money talks and bull$hit walks’ is the rule of law of today’s patriot. The decline of America began the day we accepted the idea that ‘the rule of law’ only applies to some and not others; and how long ago was that?

Your last point is so spot on, yet too easily passed over by all of these people who talk about this phony war on terror. In the 60s, 70s and 80s people from Afghanistan and Pakistan immigrated to the US and assimilated. Now because of our invasion of their land,the destruction of their agriculture, the killing and maiming of their civilians all for an elusive and some like me might argue imaginary foe, they are a disenchanted, perhaps disenfranchised group that could potentially breed people who are not too fond of us anymore. I’m sure there are many an Iraqi living someplace other than in their home in Iraq who’re harboring a lot of pent up anger and frustration over the disruption of their lives our invasion caused them so many years ago and want to settle scores in ways that only they can understand. Now along comes this cottage industry of “experts” who further inflame passions and speak in terms we once considered illegal of more destruction and mayhem. I betcha’ this character gets a lot of money to spout his racist, biblical harangue…we all know ‘money talks and bull$hit walks’ is the rule of law of today’s patriot. The decline of America began the day we accepted the idea that ‘the rule of law’ only applies to some and not others; and how long ago was that?

It was Papal Legate Arnaud-Amaury during the suppression of the Cathars at the siege of Béziers.

It was Papal Legate Arnaud-Amaury during the suppression of the Cathars at the siege of Béziers.

It was Papal Legate Arnaud-Amaury during the suppression of the Cathars at the siege of Béziers.

It was Papal Legate Arnaud-Amaury during the suppression of the Cathars at the siege of Béziers.

And we’re all goyim. That’s what the fanatics think.

And we’re all goyim. That’s what the fanatics think.

And we’re all goyim. That’s what the fanatics think.

And we’re all goyim. That’s what the fanatics think.

So, then it’s o.k. if Muslims kill his wife, his children, his parents, relatives, friends, co-workers, the cops who agreed with him, their kids? If it’s o.k. for us to kill the Muslim children, then it must be o.k. for them to kill our children. To the cops who agreed with him, give your address, unless of course, you’re now afraid after you’ve finally crawled out from under the flag of stupidity and into the light of reason. That idiot is probably being paid by the defense contractors to spew his garbage and those idiots believed him.

“A Muslim is not a Muslim, if for a second he denounces his belief in Jesus son of Mary” by definition. Anti-White-Superemesist, yes we will be, through peaceful means, BUT ANTI-CHRIST, is pure propaganda against Muslims. Jewish people, atheists, Hindous, Budhists are the ones who do not recognize Jesus nor his mother, nor God Almighty.

WE ARE TOLD THAT JESUS NEVER PRAYED, DURING HIS LIFETIME, IS IT TRUE?

This man Walid is a low level Mossad agent, used to be Mossad informer, got some training and now he comes here as expert? HU!

WHAT AN EXPERT!

If he was truely as he said, A TERRORIST, then he must have killed children and women, and other un-armed people? RIGHT/ WRONG?

Then he must be brought to justice while he is here, but who will bring a MOSSAD agent to justice in America

This tactic will CERTAINLY persuade moderate Muslims that the U.S. is on their side, eh? The Afghans, Iraqis, and Pakistanis already hate us, so what’s a little more animus?

In my 66 years, I’ve never met a policeman who wasn’t at least a bit skewed. Who’d want to carry a gun in an open society?

You’re from a small town, and you go back five years after HS graduation, the biggest asshole in your class is a cop.

Hey there, little fella. You look like you need a feed.

Yep. The ones that become cops are the bullies, the ones that want power they can’t achieve by other means, and the former athletes that find out they’re no one in the real world.

They hate us because of our unquestioning support for Israel. If we had just given them Oklahoma to be the Jewish homeland, none of this would have happened.

“When facism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.” -Sinclair Lewis

send this braindead my way

You should have mentioned that the murdered Christians were “brown” people if you expect to elicit any sympathy here. Otherwise, it is assumed that they were white, and therefore deserved to die, babies and all.

Christians were murdered, but since they were Christians, it is of no significance, even if they were “brown” sorts. For example:

http://www.thisdayonline.info/nview.php?id=190764

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/africa/12/25/nigeria.jos.death.toll/

No, he prayed.

Many atheists, Jews, and the rest believe that Jesus existed, just like many Muslims do. But like the Muslims, I doubt if any of them believe that Jesus is the one true Son of God, born of a virgin, and the redeemer of souls.

Choke on your tail, shitbag

You can play with your twisted false eqivalencies as much as you like, don’t expect to be taken seriously.

P.S. You’re a dickhead.

Have a nice day.

My, what a lucid, well-thought out response! If I could be more like you, well, actually, I would probably kill myself if I could summon the mental energy to figure out how.

I was merely responding to the explicit assertion that is usually made here that all brown people are innocent Muslims, and that all Christians, no matter where they live, are white and do not matter.

I’m just glad he’s a christian patriot. Imagine what an asshole he’d be otherwise.

All such people are assholes. The worst part is that there are people willing to listen to them, making us all a whole lot more unsafe.

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That is why the world sees us as the beast while we see ourselves as angels.

In other words, you’re a binary thinking right winger whose brain is not capable of handling complex thought of any kind.

Typical right wing coward.

The Nazi type propaganda is growing and becoming more of an reality!

Walid ought to be hit with a shoe and worked over with a bat. What a disgusting piece of shit. Kill children? WTF??

no rational person believes that Jesus was the son of a god.

anyone that believes someone professing the existence of a magic man in the sky is automatically disqualified from rational discussion

Counter – terrorist – expert
Right-wing – terrorist – nutjob

Neo-con Frankenstein.

RE: Counter-terror ‘expert’ tells cops: Kill militant Muslims, ‘including children’
MY COMMENT: This country is seriously ill!

Have checked your comments , you come across as a nerdy left wing teenager. Grow up , get a job , get a life , find a girl friend . If in fact you are an adult , get help.

I’ve heard the rationale before – you kill the men you solve the problem today, you kill the women you solve the problem for a generation, and if you kill the children you solve the problem forever.

It adds up to a couple billion people.

Of course we wouldn’t have a problem if the USA wasn’t invading countries, manipulating governments, assassinating democratic leaders so the oil companies, and others, can extract their natural resources with no concern for the people or their environment.

The fact that most Muslims live in abject is partly due to our consumption of oil, and when you nothing and the kids are hungry you find a way to fight even if it means death.

I’ve heard the rationale before – you kill the men you solve the problem today, you kill the women you solve the problem for a generation, and if you kill the children you solve the problem forever.

It adds up to a couple billion people.

Of course we wouldn’t have a problem if the USA wasn’t invading countries, manipulating governments, assassinating democratic leaders so the oil companies, and others, can extract their natural resources with no concern for the people or their environment.

The fact that most Muslims live in abject is partly due to our consumption of oil, and when you nothing and the kids are hungry you find a way to fight even if it means death.

TITLE: The Greatest Threat to America is the “BELIEF” that Terrorism is The Greatest & Number One Threat to America.

Oh yes…it’s goooood to kill Innocent Muslims and Children or Assasinate American Citizens or Search us without probable cause or detain American Citizens indefinately or Label American Patriots who Peacefully Protest as “Low Level Terrorists” and right is wrong and up is down and freedom is slavery and war is peace. The “So-Called” Great Minds of The Ruling Elite appear at times to be the most pathetic of persons on the planet. They sit around their big conference tables with their big global ideas and pretend to be intelligent but have no common sense or human decency. I’m convinced of this. It was only a few years ago that I didn’t believe the world was evil and especially that those in charge could be, but now I see things more clearly . The world is full of all kinds of evil. The “system” of the world that is…what makes it spin, what makes it function and what makes it tick. It is in this system of evil where arrogance in its thirst for greed & power works it magic. Then once decisions have been made it is re-packaged in a beautiful box with ribbons and bows and sold to the public as a good thing. I’m thankful for realizing how much evil is prevalent in the world today because it was that very insight that broke me out of my lazy boy recliner and persuaded me to become active in charity and also as an activist. I know whose side on I’m on. I’ve chosen the side of right and will never give in to the propaganda or nonsense the government tries to sell me. I’m a free thinker. I’m not looking to be told what to believe or how to see things. I draw my own conclusions based on the facts and the data that is available.

The idea that terrorism is the Number One Threat to America is just not statistically true. It is an unacceptable idea for any critical thinker. You are more likely to die from a bee sting or a falling comet than at the hands of a terrorist. There is no validity whatsoever to those who believe terrorism is our greatest threat. In fact I would argue that the number one threat to America are the very individuals who believe that terrorism is the number one threat to America. In Fact, it is because of this belief that we’ve lost more Freedoms, Civil Liberties, Rights, Opportunity & Prosperity. Not to mention the precious lives of our soldiers and the undeniable fact that these wars continue to threaten our national security and safety.

Further Notes: I highly doubt that those at the highest levels in govt, the fbi or cia dislikes these radically minded individuals, I mean after all they tortured innocent detainees; hired blackwater and didn’t seem to mind that they overstepped the law or other legal boundries. And they don’t seem to be hiring very many TSA Agents with any scruples either. But perhaps this is all intentional to further inject us with more fear and intimidation so that we submit to their draconian measures and bogus wars. Now that to me makes more sense. Yes, the elite can be inept and incompetent but you can’t chalk up every debacle to ineptitude or incompetence…that theory just doesn’t hold any weight.

When Shoebat says kill militant muslims and their children he is not only wrong but misleading. It is a documented fact that the overwhelming mass majority of deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan are innocent civilians…a fact they seem to exclude. They target and kill more innocents and civilians than terrorists. General McChystal made that clear in a video conference when he stated the military had killed an “amazing” number of civilians. He further went on to state “And to my knowledge none of them ever posed a threat.” It is also now known that our drone attacks in Pakistan are killing mostly civilians due to our intelligence community deciding we no longer need near-certain intelligence before bombing. I’m disgusted by these wars and furthermore they are bankrupting our country. We can no longer afford them. There is only 1 Solution. Bring our troops home and end these senseless wars.

TITLE: The Greatest Threat to America is the “BELIEF” that Terrorism is The Greatest & Number One Threat to America.

Oh yes…it’s goooood to kill Innocent Muslims and Children or Assasinate American Citizens or Search us without probable cause or detain American Citizens indefinately or Label American Patriots who Peacefully Protest as “Low Level Terrorists” and right is wrong and up is down and freedom is slavery and war is peace. The “So-Called” Great Minds of The Ruling Elite appear at times to be the most pathetic of persons on the planet. They sit around their big conference tables with their big global ideas and pretend to be intelligent but have no common sense or human decency. I’m convinced of this. It was only a few years ago that I didn’t believe the world was evil and especially that those in charge could be, but now I see things more clearly . The world is full of all kinds of evil. The “system” of the world that is…what makes it spin, what makes it function and what makes it tick. It is in this system of evil where arrogance in its thirst for greed & power works it magic. Then once decisions have been made it is re-packaged in a beautiful box with ribbons and bows and sold to the public as a good thing. I’m thankful for realizing how much evil is prevalent in the world today because it was that very insight that broke me out of my lazy boy recliner and persuaded me to become active in charity and also as an activist. I know whose side on I’m on. I’ve chosen the side of right and will never give in to the propaganda or nonsense the government tries to sell me. I’m a free thinker. I’m not looking to be told what to believe or how to see things. I draw my own conclusions based on the facts and the data that is available.

The idea that terrorism is the Number One Threat to America is just not statistically true. It is an unacceptable idea for any critical thinker. You are more likely to die from a bee sting or a falling comet than at the hands of a terrorist. There is no validity whatsoever to those who believe terrorism is our greatest threat. In fact I would argue that the number one threat to America are the very individuals who believe that terrorism is the number one threat to America. In Fact, it is because of this belief that we’ve lost more Freedoms, Civil Liberties, Rights, Opportunity & Prosperity. Not to mention the precious lives of our soldiers and the undeniable fact that these wars continue to threaten our national security and safety.

Further Notes: I highly doubt that those at the highest levels in govt, the fbi or cia dislikes these radically minded individuals, I mean after all they tortured innocent detainees; hired blackwater and didn’t seem to mind that they overstepped the law or other legal boundries. And they don’t seem to be hiring very many TSA Agents with any scruples either. But perhaps this is all intentional to further inject us with more fear and intimidation so that we submit to their draconian measures and bogus wars. Now that to me makes more sense. Yes, the elite can be inept and incompetent but you can’t chalk up every debacle to ineptitude or incompetence…that theory just doesn’t hold any weight.

When Shoebat says kill militant muslims and their children he is not only wrong but misleading. It is a documented fact that the overwhelming mass majority of deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan are innocent civilians…a fact they seem to exclude. They target and kill more innocents and civilians than terrorists. General McChystal made that clear in a video conference when he stated the military had killed an “amazing” number of civilians. He further went on to state “And to my knowledge none of them ever posed a threat.” It is also now known that our drone attacks in Pakistan are killing mostly civilians due to our intelligence community deciding we no longer need near-certain intelligence before bombing. I’m disgusted by these wars and furthermore they are bankrupting our country. We can no longer afford them. There is only 1 Solution. Bring our troops home and end these senseless wars.

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Does anyone else think it’s ironical that Israel & the US find their common interests and goals compatible with Nazi values?. Jews and Yanks, you can be proud of yourselves. And this is not just an issue over a “few bad apples”. Look at what the IDF did in Gaza, Israelis behaving like fucking Nazis….the world watching without doing anything, because as usual, Israeli Jews always have the best reasons to commit the worst atrocities. Anyone who follows the daily pathology of Israeli society is aware that it is becoming more and more racist and supremacist. Israel is a lunatic asylum with military nuclear technology.

I am tired of the “paradigm”, call me antisemitic and I may wear it as a badge of honor from now…..

The focus on radical Islam is to distract us from the real cause of terrorism aimed at the US: our policies in the Mid-East and in particular our invasions and occupations of Muslim territory since 1985, and our support of the forty year Israeli occupation of Palestine. It is not about Islam or any religion. It’s the occupation, stupid.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2010/10/18/it_s_the_occupation_stupid?page=0,0

Walid Shoebat is a prime example of the business side of “terrorism.” For decades, self-proclaim individuals asserted themselves as knowledgeable about fighting Arab/terrorism–Steven Emerson being one of the earliest and most self promoting. Given publicity when an incident occurred, these persons did not have command of US policy. However, the collapse of the Cold War, the expansion of US world wide presence, the rise of the neocons, and attack on September 11 has provided these “experts” with a platform and a lucrative occupation. Shoebat and his fellow travelers have a financial stake in the hyping of “terrorism.” With Shoebat’s definition of terrorism, there will never be an end to his employment. With all the money to be made from this war on “terrorism,” I doubt that this will come to an end any time soon.

Both parties (which in reality is a one-party system) support the same kinds of lies. NeoCons and NeoLibs alike.

As I planned, I let you come up with the list. Get out your big crayola.

I agree the neocons are nuts but we have a neolib admistration who is perpetuating the war on terror. The left/right paradigm is a hoax. They all serve the same puppet masters.

This guy says he was a “former PLO Terrorist.” I highly doubt that even “reformed” PLO members would describe themselves as terrorists. More than likely, this self-STYLED PLO “terrorist” was an agent or asset of the Israeli Mossad, the biggest terrorist organization in the world. Everybody knows now that Israel started HAMAS through the Shin Bet and now we have these filthy Israeli war criminals training our local and state police (Pennsylvania and ITRR.) This country is OVER if we keep letting our Zionist controlled government defer to the murderous Israelis. GOD BLESS AMERICA and GOD HELP ISRAEL when Americans are told what Israel, the beast, has done to this once-great country. The stupid goyim in America better wake up, ISRAEL WANTS TO DESTROY AMERICA.

In wars of ideology, only worms and cockroaches win.

All true. But it goes much further back. The US has been undermining elected governments around the world since at least the 1940′s.

They hate us not for our freedoms, but because we have stolen theirs.

What about militant politicans. They are everywhere!

pos is correct, but the part that makes the hair on my neck stand up is the people in the audience that seemed to hang on his every word as though it were “the voice of god”

and who pays this guy, is he part of the cheney chattel, bought and paid for to make sure nothing like peace ever happens

This explains why much was not done when children were killed in Iraq, and other Muslim based countries by the troops.

“When facism comes to America”

Great quote. I would say, it arrived officially in March of 2003, when Bush launched preemptive war in Iraq, primarily, to maintain petrol dollar hegemony. We are repeating Nazi history, and the mindless killing, has only just begun. It was economic gluttony that destroyed Rome. It is destroying us.

To further your point, this focus is meant generate support for our military and for the militarization of our police agencies.

The US spends the majority of its budget on military-related activities, which is the muscle required to ensure our economic dominance, while we cut spending on social programs. To prevent people from protesting this situation, a vile, purely evil, one-dimensional enemy is needed (the USSR assumed this role in the past); thus radical Islam. If people have the belief that Muslims will take over the US and the world (Oklahomans vote for measure against Sharia law, for example), then they will most likely vote against their economic interests. However, as the economic situation worsens, this support will erode. Therefore, the infrastructure to suppress dissent and control the population will need to be in place. This could explain the militarization of police agencies, the powers of declaring enemy combatants and of indefinite detention, and the development of all encompassing surveillance (cameras, communications).

Being over 50, I have never lived through a period in the US where people espousing peace have been welcomed; instead they have been vilified, surveilled and harassed. I do not see support for an alternative to the above – either from the people or from the media.

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Hi I’m a former muslim terrorist who saw the light and converted to christianity. And for the low low low price of $10,000-50,000 per speech (plus expenses) I’ll come to your church, lunch, conference, ect and confirm all your fears while spewing forth the darkest desires of your heart.

Well if someone said it it must be true huh?

Hateful and ignorant is no way to go through life.

Can’t have enough killing doncha’ know. I imagine this strategy will create more Muslim terrorists just as the Nobel Peace drones do. You know, spreading freedom one hellfire missile at time.

Don’t forget about the Nobel Peace drones! Creating new terrorists one hellfire missile at a time.

I’m hardly right-wing. And a coward? On what basis can you make such an assertion?

See, that is the problem with your being a ranter: you are incapable of clear thought, and fall into irrationality. Or were you just drunk?

Rational people believe many things that others might consider to be irrational. Now, to someone with a limited intellect and poor education, it may be hard to reconcile that apparent paradox. Yet, rational people the world over do indeed believe the “irrational” and function normally.

As for my comment, it is a theological belief that is irreconcilable with Islam. If Jesus is God, then Muhammad was wrong, and Muslims are living a lie. If Muhammad was right, then Christians are living a lie. The claim that “Muslims believe in Jesus too” is either a misunderstanding of what “believe in” means, at least for many Christians, or a purposeful deception.

Rational people believe many things that others might consider to be irrational. Now, to someone with a limited intellect and poor education, it may be hard to reconcile that apparent paradox. Yet, rational people the world over do indeed believe the “irrational” and function normally.

As for my comment, it is a theological belief that is irreconcilable with Islam. If Jesus is God, then Muhammad was wrong, and Muslims are living a lie. If Muhammad was right, then Christians are living a lie. The claim that “Muslims believe in Jesus too” is either a misunderstanding of what “believe in” means, at least for many Christians, or a purposeful deception.

Rational people believe many things that others might consider to be irrational. Now, to someone with a limited intellect and poor education, it may be hard to reconcile that apparent paradox. Yet, rational people the world over do indeed believe the “irrational” and function normally.

As for my comment, it is a theological belief that is irreconcilable with Islam. If Jesus is God, then Muhammad was wrong, and Muslims are living a lie. If Muhammad was right, then Christians are living a lie. The claim that “Muslims believe in Jesus too” is either a misunderstanding of what “believe in” means, at least for many Christians, or a purposeful deception.

Shoebat is an Israeli agent speaking hate against all Muslims – he’s a favorite Neocon plant in an attempt to try to discredit Palestine for the advantage of rightwing Israel

Hmmm…I seem to have picked up a stalker, but what can one do? Grin and bear it. Though I hope that I will not be adversely judged by the quality of my enemies.

As an atheist, I might tend to agree with you, but your comment seems based more on emotional anger than on any rational foundation. Do exclude the religious from discussions would exclude the majority of the world from taking part.

Hmmm…I seem to have picked up a stalker, but what can one do? Grin and bear it. Though I hope that I will not be adversely judged by the quality of my enemies.

As an atheist, I might tend to agree with you, but your comment seems based more on emotional anger than on any rational foundation. Do exclude the religious from discussions would exclude the majority of the world from taking part.

hehe LOL. Doesn’t that just scare the daylight out of you? Knowing that people are so gullible and have no brains to figure things out for themselves? Perhaps they are still under the delusion that the people in authority act only in their best interest, care and safety. Well….I threw that idea out awhile back, I can hope that others will too. But be careful (sarcasm) the government says that anybody that questions the government has a disease and is a potential militia terrorist. Any truth seeker is a threat according to Homeland Security. Don’t believe me? Just look what happened to Mark Ruffalo who found himself on the Terrorist Watch List for investigating just a little too deep into the corruption of Big Oil. He thought he was doing the government a favor (since the govt cares so much for the people) by exposing their evil. Or how about the 1 million plus Americans on the watch list mostly for peacefully protesting the evil wars? Doesn’t take rocket science to figure out the government is not on the side of the common man.

“He is the founder of the Walid Shoebat Foundation, an organization that claims to “work to fight for Israel in the Media [sic].” [8]” (wikipedia)

palestinian opposed to endless war and occupation = evil fanatic
palestinian supporting israeli and american war crimes and mass murder = upstanding citizen

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Proof that any ignorant racist scumbag can sell one’s self as an ‘expert – consultant’ and find clients.

Flying Spaghetti Monster help us!

Proof that any ignorant racist scumbag can sell one’s self as an ‘expert – consultant’ and find clients.

Flying Spaghetti Monster help us!

This whole meme of the Israelis behaving like nazis has been planted by pro-Arab propagandists. While the Israelis do in fact do things that are excessive one has to remember that before the wall and all the checkpoints there were terror bombings regularly in Israel. You might want to remember that the Arabs, via the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Muhammed Amin al-Husseini, were closely allied with Hitler and the Nazis and participated aggressively in the Final Solution. This tendency to present Arabs living in Gaza as pure victims who harbor ill will towards none is a complete crock. Believe me, if the Arabs had the military capability of Israel you would see excesses and slaughters that would dwarf anything Israel has done.

This whole meme of the Israelis behaving like nazis has been planted by pro-Arab propagandists. While the Israelis do in fact do things that are excessive one has to remember that before the wall and all the checkpoints there were terror bombings regularly in Israel. You might want to remember that the Arabs, via the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Muhammed Amin al-Husseini, were closely allied with Hitler and the Nazis and participated aggressively in the Final Solution. This tendency to present Arabs living in Gaza as pure victims who harbor ill will towards none is a complete crock. Believe me, if the Arabs had the military capability of Israel you would see excesses and slaughters that would dwarf anything Israel has done.

Walid Shoebat, a self-described “former PLO terrorist”

Hmmm…sorry but no cigar. Walid Shoebat is a jew name not Palestinian. And the PLO was anything but a terrorist organization. They did a great deal of good for the Palestinian people.

And I couldn’t go past that blatant lie. This so call article is pure, unadulterated bullshit. Shame on RS for biting into it.

I don’t agree with killing children. Then again, most children are heavily propagandized in Muslim countries and are taught that Jews are descended from apes and pigs and that basically a good Jew is a dead Jew. His views is extreme, but one could argue that many, if not most, children there are likely to be jihadists and so are already lost in terms of having the potential to live a life not consumed by hatred of Israel and Jews.

No, shit, Sherlock. He’s also no PLO. He’s a jew.

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Exactly!

With a name like Walid Shoebat? Seriously doubt it. That’s a jew a name as Matzo balls are.

Jesus told me to skin children alive! Who are you to question my faith?

Meme?. you also consider that the holocaust is a Zionist Meme implanted inside the psychology of Judeo Christian societies?.

Israelis are not behaving like Nazis,these are inventions from the Jewish press…..:

Yishai: Deporting foreign children preserves Israel’s Jewish identity
http://tinyurl.com/29s7gfn

New ad campaign targets Jews ‘abducted’ by intermarriage
http://tinyurl.com/2cczhta

Reporter feels mob’s hate in the Holy City
http://tinyurl.com/l65kp4

The Israel Project’s 2009 Global Language Dictionary
http://tinyurl.com/l9jzv7

How to Prevent an Intermarriage
http://tinyurl.com/2azapnc

I am not even mentioning the war crimes and daily atrocities committed by the psychopathic Israeli society who thrives on racism, discrimination & self righteousness

From Palestinefacts.org: Following the June 1967 Six Day War, the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) established its major base of operations for the war against Israel in Jordan. Throughout the late 1960s, a cycle of Palestinian guerrilla attacks followed by Israeli retaliatory raids against Jordan caused much damage to Jordan and put major strain on Jordan’s relationship with the US and other Western countries. By 1970, it was widely believed that PLO leader Yasser Arafat and other factional heads were attempting to overthrow King Hussein, who viewed their operations against Israel as a threat to Jordan.

By 1970, Palestinians, both Jordanian citizens and refugees, were almost as numerous in Jordan as King Hussein’s own Bedouins. Arafat used the estimated 20,000 Palestine Liberation Organization fighters in Jordan to exercise control over much of the Palestinian population. In many parts of the country, he was the de facto government. Jordan was seen as a waystation toward defeat of Israel and a united Palestinian Arab state encompassing Israel and Jordan. As many Palestinian Arabs put it: “the road to Tel Aviv lies through Amman”.

On September 6, 1970 militant factions of the PLO hijacked four foreign planes. They flew three to Dawson’s Field in PLO-controlled northern Jordan and one to Cairo. European governments secured the release of the hostage passangers by agreeing to release PLO terrorists from their prisons. The PLO then blew up the planes.

King Hussein decided it was time to act. Throughout September the Jordanian military launched attacks to push the PLO out of Jordan, attacks now called “Black September” by the PLO. Casualty reports are uncertain, but hundreds or perhaps thousands of PLO fadayeen were killed in the fighting and large numbers of Palestinian Arab civilians died as well. Arafat retreated to northern Jordan, close to his Syrian sponsors. Within 10 months the PLO were driven out of Jordan completely, and re-established themselves in Lebanon, a choice that led to eventual disaster for Lebanon.

Jordan’s attack on the PLO led to an escalation of Syrian-Israeli tensions. The wider Arab world, which had long distrusted Hussein as a Western puppet, sided with the PLO. Syria sent tanks into Jordan — and the king was powerless to stop their steady advance. After Hussein sought American intervention, four Israeli Phantom jets flew low over the Syrian tanks. Without a shot being fired, the tanks turned north and headed back toward Damascus. Israeli troops were also deployed along the Jordan River. These actions were seen in Washington as having deterred a large-scale Syrian invasion of Jordan. As a result, US President Richard M. Nixon increasingly viewed Israel as an important strategic asset, and the Rogers Plan was allowed to die.

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Now explain to me exactly how the PLO ever “helped” the “Palestinians”. And what precisely is a “jew name”, anyway? From Wikipedia: Walid Shoebat (Arabic: وليد شويبات‎) is a Palestinian immigrant to the United States. He was born to a Palestinian father and American mother, and is a former PLO militant.[1] A “onetime Muslim who converted to Christianity,”[2] Shoebat came to public attention by becoming an ardent critic of Islam, and supporter of Israel.

Yeah…you can’t swing a dead cat in Israel without hitting a “Walid”, can you? Idiot. I’m a Jew – can’t you tell by my name?

You are antisemitic, and it has nothing to do with Israel. You say racist things about Jews and Judaism, so pretending it’s about politics and human rights won’t fly–at least among people who aren’t racists like you.
As for Israelis behaving like Nazis–well, the Nazis murdered the people they didn’t like wholesale. Gas chambers, mass shootings, kids and all. The Israelis are trying to force the Palestinians off Palestianian land with violence. Big difference, except to a hater like you. The Israeli government is absolutely criminal, but they haven’t massacred all the occupants of Palestine.
I don’t think you’re in a position to condemn others for their hateful pathologies.

“Shoebat” is “a jew name”? Johnny, did you stop taking your meds again?
If the PLO has been so good for Palestinians, why do the mass of Palestinians still live in poverty despite billions of dollars in international aid (including billions from the US)? Because Arafat and his cronies stole most of it–it’s sitting in offshore bank accounts. Know who provides concrete for Israel’s wall? The family of the Palestinian prime minister. The PLO has been like any other government–violent, corrupt, and incompetent. Is that why you support it?

Says the clueless guy.

Israeli children writing on missiles bound for targets in Lebanon
http://tinyurl.com/7xbabp
http://tinyurl.com/24skkgt
http://tinyurl.com/2aekdp3

You want to talk about apes and pigs. How does the Talmud describe us Goyims?….
As less than animals…..The Talmud justifies & advocates the killing of non Jews

“but one could argue that many, if not most, children there are likely to be jihadists”

Replace jihadists with “parasitic Jews” and you have the exact terminology used by German Nazis to justify the persecution and killing of Jews.

You see, you did it for me, you made my point, and it was not difficult at all.

I won’t call you an antisemite. I may not agree with much of what you say, but generally you limit yourself to Israel and the actions of Israelis. However I still think you should consider that every civilized country on Earth that has both law enforcement and a military organization is guilty of excess bordering and in some cases, crossing the line into atrocity. The US never took responsibility for the Mai Lai massacre and instead blamed a single soldier. We never took responsibility for Abu Ghraib but blamed a few soldiers. The police here in the US beat the shit out of innocent citizens nearly everyday and with witnesses in the form of both people and video and fail to be held accountable.

In the case of Israel I won’t deny that excesses and atrocities occur. What I will suggest is that they are very likely committed by a few soldiers or a few law enforcement – but isolated incidents add up, just as they do here in the States.

Israel should take the responsibility for the actions of its soldiers and law enforcement when they cross the line. So should the US. Neither of them do so.

Says the racist nitwit who has an unconditional love for Israel .

I think he is a Maronite, like Walid Jumblat

That’s an excellent reason young American men should think twice before fighting Muslims.

And you are the one who claims the Jews and the Mossad are behind 9/11….

You can take whatever position you may like, dear Nitwit, I will keep urinating down your throat,
& your laughable accusation of “antishremitism” wont prevent me from doing so :)

Good points here. As far as Devil being an antisemite…I’ve read a lot of her stuff. I think her hatred of Israel just spills out over to the Israelis themselves. I don’t think she believes in any of the world-wide conspiracy shit other than that bugaboo, “Zionism”.

For the record, and speaking as a Jew, I also believe that Israel has been beset by corrupt governments, especially those of Sharon and Netanyahu. But I won’t deny their existence or right to exist as a State. The history of that region in the 19th and 20th centuries is very complex. As I’ve made the point before, according to the report of the British Mandate, with the exception of Jerusalem proper, the majority of indigenous Arab peoples living in Palestine were in Transjordan. When Jordan became its own State in 1949, it considered itself the Palestinian homeland. But as another poster here pointed out, organizations like the PLO and Hamas not only want to destroy the State of Israel, they want to destroy the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan as well. As Arab people, I suppose portraying Jewish Israel as the devil incarnate is a lot easier than portraying Arab Jordan as such.

Good points here. As far as Devil being an antisemite…I’ve read a lot of her stuff. I think her hatred of Israel just spills out over to the Israelis themselves. I don’t think she believes in any of the world-wide conspiracy shit other than that bugaboo, “Zionism”.

For the record, and speaking as a Jew, I also believe that Israel has been beset by corrupt governments, especially those of Sharon and Netanyahu. But I won’t deny their existence or right to exist as a State. The history of that region in the 19th and 20th centuries is very complex. As I’ve made the point before, according to the report of the British Mandate, with the exception of Jerusalem proper, the majority of indigenous Arab peoples living in Palestine were in Transjordan. When Jordan became its own State in 1949, it considered itself the Palestinian homeland. But as another poster here pointed out, organizations like the PLO and Hamas not only want to destroy the State of Israel, they want to destroy the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan as well. As Arab people, I suppose portraying Jewish Israel as the devil incarnate is a lot easier than portraying Arab Jordan as such.

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By the way, you miserable dork, you failed to notice.Even the Zionists and the real Jewish posters on Raw Story, are not calling me antisemitic. You are one among few Shabbos Goy around here sticking with this pathetic shtick of labeling anyone a “Jew Hater”, Lol

Since you claim the Jews are behind 9/11, you are yourself eligible for the antisemitic epithet.

By the way, you miserable dork, you failed to notice.Even the Zionists and the real Jewish posters on Raw Story, are not calling me antisemitic. You are one among few Shabbos Goy around here sticking with this pathetic shtick of labeling anyone a “Jew Hater”, Lol

Since you claim the Jews are behind 9/11, you are yourself eligible for the antisemitic epithet.

Kill the entire family? Does he mean the entire nuclear of mom, dad & kids? Or does he mean the extended family including all the aunts, uncles, cousins, nephews, nieces and in-laws?

This is where the rub comes in: Asian families have strong clan spirit, so a killing will reach out to many people who, in turn, interconnect to more family clans.

In short, you would need a hitlist of at least six million.

It’s been tried before.

Didn’t work.

Kill the entire family? Does he mean the entire nuclear of mom, dad & kids? Or does he mean the extended family including all the aunts, uncles, cousins, nephews, nieces and in-laws?

This is where the rub comes in: Asian families have strong clan spirit, so a killing will reach out to many people who, in turn, interconnect to more family clans.

In short, you would need a hitlist of at least six million.

It’s been tried before.

Didn’t work.

Kill the entire family? Does he mean the entire nuclear of mom, dad & kids? Or does he mean the extended family including all the aunts, uncles, cousins, nephews, nieces and in-laws?

This is where the rub comes in: Asian families have strong clan spirit, so a killing will reach out to many people who, in turn, interconnect to more family clans.

In short, you would need a hitlist of at least six million.

It’s been tried before.

Didn’t work.

What he is saying is historically the way nations have always dealt with their enemies, kill them all. Just check with Hitler and Stalin, Rome and the Khemer Rouge, Nagasaki and Dresden. It is appalling to think that the only way we have of dealing with our foes is murder, but that is what got us to where we are today, if we like it or not. Forgiveness is the only answer. Fear and hate are useless.

What he is saying is historically the way nations have always dealt with their enemies, kill them all. Just check with Hitler and Stalin, Rome and the Khemer Rouge, Nagasaki and Dresden. It is appalling to think that the only way we have of dealing with our foes is murder, but that is what got us to where we are today, if we like it or not. Forgiveness is the only answer. Fear and hate are useless.

What he is saying is historically the way nations have always dealt with their enemies, kill them all. Just check with Hitler and Stalin, Rome and the Khemer Rouge, Nagasaki and Dresden. It is appalling to think that the only way we have of dealing with our foes is murder, but that is what got us to where we are today, if we like it or not. Forgiveness is the only answer. Fear and hate are useless.

Mike. you and I had a lot of arguments over many issues, but even so, you came to realize that I am not a “Jew hater”. You cannot find a post in which I subscribed to the “global Jewish conspiracy etc…..” . I have indeed very serious issues with the policies of the State of Israel, but you and I know this is not a Jewish issue, since most of Israeli leadership are not even religious.

You are not a stupid man, you know that real antisemites wear their hatred of Jews as a badge of honor, Why would I be the exception?.

Mike. you and I had a lot of arguments over many issues, but even so, you came to realize that I am not a “Jew hater”. You cannot find a post in which I subscribed to the “global Jewish conspiracy etc…..” . I have indeed very serious issues with the policies of the State of Israel, but you and I know this is not a Jewish issue, since most of Israeli leadership are not even religious.

You are not a stupid man, you know that real antisemites wear their hatred of Jews as a badge of honor, Why would I be the exception?.

Mike. you and I had a lot of arguments over many issues, but even so, you came to realize that I am not a “Jew hater”. You cannot find a post in which I subscribed to the “global Jewish conspiracy etc…..” . I have indeed very serious issues with the policies of the State of Israel, but you and I know this is not a Jewish issue, since most of Israeli leadership are not even religious.

You are not a stupid man, you know that real antisemites wear their hatred of Jews as a badge of honor, Why would I be the exception?.

As a wide-awake (hopefully not stupid) goyim, I want to disagree with you on two points:

1. The U. S. military is the biggest terrorist organization in the world, fronting for the corporate oligarchies.
2. Israel doesn’t want to DESTROY America — at least not until they and their cronies have bled it dry of any and all assets.

As a wide-awake (hopefully not stupid) goyim, I want to disagree with you on two points:

1. The U. S. military is the biggest terrorist organization in the world, fronting for the corporate oligarchies.
2. Israel doesn’t want to DESTROY America — at least not until they and their cronies have bled it dry of any and all assets.

You also noticed ?. that I am very critical with the Arabs for their hypocritical and pathetic use of the Palestinian question, to blame everyone but themselves for the failure of their own societies.

You are absolutely right when you say ”
Israel should take the responsibility for the actions of its soldiers and law enforcement when they cross the line. So should the US. Neither of them do so”.

this shouldn’t be limited to Israel but to every sovereign countries. A crime is a crime whether An Israeli, a US citizen or a Brit commits it.

You also noticed ?. that I am very critical with the Arabs for their hypocritical and pathetic use of the Palestinian question, to blame everyone but themselves for the failure of their own societies.

You are absolutely right when you say ”
Israel should take the responsibility for the actions of its soldiers and law enforcement when they cross the line. So should the US. Neither of them do so”.

this shouldn’t be limited to Israel but to every sovereign countries. A crime is a crime whether An Israeli, a US citizen or a Brit commits it.

“..but they haven’t massacred all the occupants of Palestine.” Not yet, anyway, but that’s the fall-back plan if they can’t drive them all away by other (terrorist) means.

“..but they haven’t massacred all the occupants of Palestine.” Not yet, anyway, but that’s the fall-back plan if they can’t drive them all away by other (terrorist) means.

No doubt, this way they can continue to blame the terrorists for their unlawful invasions and keep the war on terror alive and well for decades to come or until we’ve conquered the world through empire building. This is how empire building works and this also why the elite continually say we can’t miss the opportunities that a crisis brings. They know that without the crisis the good-natured people of America would never buy into their nefarious plans. As we all now know much of their plans were drawn up waaaay before the crisis, they simply use the crisis (whether real, staged or overblown) as a pretext. President Bush wanted to fly an American Plane with a United Nations flag on it over the Iraq No Fly Zone as low as possible so they would shoot it down to have a pretext to go to war with Iraq. Thus lying to the American People and the world at large as well. What a great way to build trust. This has now been confirmed by 2-Star General Hugh Shelton & Trilateral President Zbigniew Brzezinski. This seems to be the MO for a lot of strategies that the elite doctor up. Dr. Evil would be so very proud.

No doubt, this way they can continue to blame the terrorists for their unlawful invasions and keep the war on terror alive and well for decades to come or until we’ve conquered the world through empire building. This is how empire building works and this also why the elite continually say we can’t miss the opportunities that a crisis brings. They know that without the crisis the good-natured people of America would never buy into their nefarious plans. As we all now know much of their plans were drawn up waaaay before the crisis, they simply use the crisis (whether real, staged or overblown) as a pretext. President Bush wanted to fly an American Plane with a United Nations flag on it over the Iraq No Fly Zone as low as possible so they would shoot it down to have a pretext to go to war with Iraq. Thus lying to the American People and the world at large as well. What a great way to build trust. This has now been confirmed by 2-Star General Hugh Shelton & Trilateral President Zbigniew Brzezinski. This seems to be the MO for a lot of strategies that the elite doctor up. Dr. Evil would be so very proud.

I’m a Jew – can’t you tell by my name?

Oh, I’m so very sorry to hear that. I had no idea. It must really suck for you.

I’m a Jew – can’t you tell by my name?

Oh, I’m so very sorry to hear that. I had no idea. It must really suck for you.

I’d rather be clueless than a paid troll for Israel.

I’d rather be clueless than a paid troll for Israel.

* * * ISRAELI TROLL ALERT * * *

* * * ISRAELI TROLL ALERT * * *

Impressive. That explains the price of tea in China. But what does that rant have to do with my comment again?

Impressive. That explains the price of tea in China. But what does that rant have to do with my comment again?

What/who is a “Maronite”?

What/who is a “Maronite”?

Incredible, now Fux News has even crossed over into Business Conventions.. this is what this article says to me. The whole field of Post 9-11 hustlers and scammers now includes unreliable consultants who feed the willing crowds what they want to hear !! I can only imagine the kind of money we the taxpayer are footing for not only 2 Wars in ME, but PR money in the form of propaganda, bribes, etc and the peripheral scams headed by NSC, Homeland Security, Contractors at Large, not to mention the garbage that is currently being passed off as solid information by paid Lobbyists and people who attend lectures by such star speakers as Shoebat to our President and Representatives, we are like an endless water well that has people lined up for miles to ladle out a bucket or 2 or 3 or…

Incredible, now Fux News has even crossed over into Business Conventions.. this is what this article says to me. The whole field of Post 9-11 hustlers and scammers now includes unreliable consultants who feed the willing crowds what they want to hear !! I can only imagine the kind of money we the taxpayer are footing for not only 2 Wars in ME, but PR money in the form of propaganda, bribes, etc and the peripheral scams headed by NSC, Homeland Security, Contractors at Large, not to mention the garbage that is currently being passed off as solid information by paid Lobbyists and people who attend lectures by such star speakers as Shoebat to our President and Representatives, we are like an endless water well that has people lined up for miles to ladle out a bucket or 2 or 3 or…

Great. The inmates are running the asylum. How many levels of paranoia can we withstand?

Great. The inmates are running the asylum. How many levels of paranoia can we withstand?

It’s in the Bible, isn’t it? Put all the male children to the sword, and as for the females, take them as your slaves. Burn their homes and crops and sow their fields with salt, so nothing will grow there for X years upon years.

It’s in the Bible, isn’t it? Put all the male children to the sword, and as for the females, take them as your slaves. Burn their homes and crops and sow their fields with salt, so nothing will grow there for X years upon years.

I am guessing Walid Shoebat is a Maronite

I am guessing Walid Shoebat is a Maronite

Try a couple of billion. There at least one billion Muslims in the world, and any concerted attack on their faith or people of their religion will excite their co-religionists just as much as attacks on Christians excite the Pope and his ilk. Then there are all the non-Muslim people of the world who are interconnected by, as you point out, ties of kinship and family and love — and proximity — to your non-secular nations, and we’re talking something like 3 or 4 billion people. It’s not easy to dispose of even a thousandth that many, as other genocidal dictators have found.

Try a couple of billion. There at least one billion Muslims in the world, and any concerted attack on their faith or people of their religion will excite their co-religionists just as much as attacks on Christians excite the Pope and his ilk. Then there are all the non-Muslim people of the world who are interconnected by, as you point out, ties of kinship and family and love — and proximity — to your non-secular nations, and we’re talking something like 3 or 4 billion people. It’s not easy to dispose of even a thousandth that many, as other genocidal dictators have found.

I very much doubt Walid Shoebat was ever a “PLO militant.” Being half American, he was more likely to have been an attempted CIA mole.

I very much doubt Walid Shoebat was ever a “PLO militant.” Being half American, he was more likely to have been an attempted CIA mole.

“And the PLO was anything but a terrorist organization. They did a great deal of good for the Palestinian people.” The article makes dog piles out of both sentiments. The PLO was a terrorist organization and did nothing but help arabs get KICKED THE FUCK OUT of other host countries.

“And the PLO was anything but a terrorist organization. They did a great deal of good for the Palestinian people.” The article makes dog piles out of both sentiments. The PLO was a terrorist organization and did nothing but help arabs get KICKED THE FUCK OUT of other host countries.

Johnny

Many Palestinians are Christians, Greek Orthodox ,Maronite,Jews etc… The name in itself is not a Jewish name. I think Shoebat belongs to mixed family of Christian Maronites and Muslims.

Johnny

Many Palestinians are Christians, Greek Orthodox ,Maronite,Jews etc… The name in itself is not a Jewish name. I think Shoebat belongs to mixed family of Christian Maronites and Muslims.

It will create lots of non-Muslim terrorists too if we “mistakenly” attack the wrong people, like we did during the Vietnam War-Never-Declared-War, when we bombed Laos, Kampuchea, and China. Lots of Muslim nations have non-Muslim neighbours. And with our excellent warmaking skills, we’re just as likely to bomb Israel by accident. I don’t know why the Israelis aren’t more nervous about this.

It will create lots of non-Muslim terrorists too if we “mistakenly” attack the wrong people, like we did during the Vietnam War-Never-Declared-War, when we bombed Laos, Kampuchea, and China. Lots of Muslim nations have non-Muslim neighbours. And with our excellent warmaking skills, we’re just as likely to bomb Israel by accident. I don’t know why the Israelis aren’t more nervous about this.

Ah, my well-informed friend, you’ll find a slew of questions waiting for this one. Do you know, I had even forgotten Walid Jumblatt. Congratulations.

Ah, my well-informed friend, you’ll find a slew of questions waiting for this one. Do you know, I had even forgotten Walid Jumblatt. Congratulations.

Ah, my well-informed friend, you’ll find a slew of questions waiting for this one. Do you know, I had even forgotten Walid Jumblatt. Congratulations.

“Put all the male children to the sward, and as for the females, take them as your slaves”
It’s in the Qur’an, this is the way the great Muhammed lived and taught his followers.

“Put all the male children to the sward, and as for the females, take them as your slaves”
It’s in the Qur’an, this is the way the great Muhammed lived and taught his followers.

“Put all the male children to the sward, and as for the females, take them as your slaves”
It’s in the Qur’an, this is the way the great Muhammed lived and taught his followers.

The only problem is, the Koran doesn’t advocate or even justify genocide or mass infanticide.
The Old Testament does…….

The only problem is, the Koran doesn’t advocate or even justify genocide or mass infanticide.
The Old Testament does…….

The only problem is, the Koran doesn’t advocate or even justify genocide or mass infanticide.
The Old Testament does…….

Thanks, I am just a 21 yr old chick who reads a lot :)

Thanks, I am just a 21 yr old chick who reads a lot :)

Thanks, I am just a 21 yr old chick who reads a lot :)

No more than it sucks to be any other middle-Middle Class American with gas here at $3.19/gal. And I imagine your “real” name is what, “John Smith”? Any other assumptions you want to entertain us with?

No more than it sucks to be any other middle-Middle Class American with gas here at $3.19/gal. And I imagine your “real” name is what, “John Smith”? Any other assumptions you want to entertain us with?

No more than it sucks to be any other middle-Middle Class American with gas here at $3.19/gal. And I imagine your “real” name is what, “John Smith”? Any other assumptions you want to entertain us with?

Johnny, Mick Haas is not the enemy :)

He belongs to the Reform Judaism movement in the US, he is not Islamophobe and doesnt hold a deep sealed hatred for Arabs and non Jews. he is someone you can dialog with.

Show him the proper respect, he will show reciprocity :)

Johnny, Mick Haas is not the enemy :)

He belongs to the Reform Judaism movement in the US, he is not Islamophobe and doesnt hold a deep sealed hatred for Arabs and non Jews. he is someone you can dialog with.

Show him the proper respect, he will show reciprocity :)

Johnny, Mick Haas is not the enemy :)

He belongs to the Reform Judaism movement in the US, he is not Islamophobe and doesnt hold a deep sealed hatred for Arabs and non Jews. he is someone you can dialog with.

Show him the proper respect, he will show reciprocity :)

Not really. I have no problem with Muslims or Arabs. In fact, I really never gave them much thought prior to 9/11. I assumed they just wanted to practice their faith unmolested like all other religions. Unfortunately, what I’ve seen is that Islam is a very aggressive, proselytizing faith whose orthodox followers believe it should eventually dominate all other religions and legal/political systems. They also have a really bad habit of blowing stuff up all the time. Of course you will have some Western equivalent that justifies it all, that shows how we richly deserve it for all the horror we’ve brought to the world as opposed to all the wonders bestowed upon humanity by the Muslim world, how peaceful, equitable and just it would be if Saudi Arabia or Iran had the Bomb and a first-world air force. I can’t wait.

Hrrmmm…I rather doubt it. “Jew Name”, not to mention some of his other postings, sounds pretty uneducated and sends a pretty big red flag.

If you say so, doll.

Who’s middle class? And, yeah, that’s it. John Smith. Now, if you excuse me, I hear Pocahontas calling.

I’m aware of that. Still, I don’t know what a “Maronite” is. Never heard of that.

Right. Of course. You say it, therefore, it is. Even if many a Palestinian disagrees with you. But, hey, it’s your opinion that counts.

And I’m not even going to go into the argument that one country’s “terrorists” are another’s “freedom fighters” nor that but for Israel’s occupation of Palestine, there would have been no Palestinian “terrorists” – But what they hell do I know?

According to author Joseph Telushkin, opposing members of the Knesset have been calling each other “Nazis” and “Bigots” for as long as Israel has been a State.

I wanted to put a little perspective on your links – by and large, such as the post regarding the ad-campaign targeting Jews “abducted” by intermarriage – these are really good examples of how the religious minority in Israel carry a very, very large stick. The Haredi in Jerusalem beating up women who dare to sit in the front of the bus, Rabbinical students lobbing water bottles at American Conservative and Reform Jews praying in pubic – the press rails against this activity but the Government just sits on its ass and does nothing. Its generally condemned by the public, for what its worth.

Truth be told – your average Israeli wants to work and be left the fuck alone – by their government, by terrorists, by the religious minority who would love to have the equivalent of religious police beating people with sticks who dare to sit outside in their backyards on a Friday night having a beer.

Israel, like the US, is really, really difficult to define unconditionally.

Read this article by Max Blumenthal “The Great Islamophobic Crusade” to find out where the kill babies edict comes from, and for a description of Walid Shoebat:
The Great Islamophobic Crusade
http://maxblumenthal.com/2010/12/the-great-islamophobic-crusade/

Watch Jeff Helper discuss how foreign security firms are training our law enforcement and border patrol for their own profit and to make us accept occupation as a society. He calls it “The Global Pacification Industry.” If you don’t have time for the whole thing, start at 16 ,min and listen for 10 minutes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVa0QbH8YcA

Read this article by Max Blumenthal “The Great Islamophobic Crusade” to find out where the kill babies edict comes from, and for a description of Walid Shoebat:
The Great Islamophobic Crusade
http://maxblumenthal.com/2010/12/the-great-islamophobic-crusade/

Watch Jeff Helper discuss how foreign security firms are training our law enforcement and border patrol for their own profit and to make us accept occupation as a society. He calls it “The Global Pacification Industry.” If you don’t have time for the whole thing, start at 16 ,min and listen for 10 minutes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVa0QbH8YcA

Ah yes the Quran does say this. “Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them”. You liberals are totaly blind the what the Quran, hadith amd Surrah teach. And Yes the old testament does say those things but it is not practiced today becasue for the most part Christianity has become civilized. Islam promotes hate and intolerance against woman and anyone who is not Islamic. This is coming from an Agnostic by the way.

Ah yes the Quran does say this. “Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them”. You liberals are totaly blind the what the Quran, hadith amd Surrah teach. And Yes the old testament does say those things but it is not practiced today becasue for the most part Christianity has become civilized. Islam promotes hate and intolerance against woman and anyone who is not Islamic. This is coming from an Agnostic by the way.

So, I guess the Bush ‘winning hearts and minds’ thing is off the table?

So, I guess the Bush ‘winning hearts and minds’ thing is off the table?

Israel does not occupy Palestine. It is the ancestral home of the Jews you libtard/pro terrorist supporter. The israelis were willing to live in peace, side-by-side with the Palestinians and Arabs. But since the inception of the Osraeli state in 1948 the Arabs have wanted nothing but war. They have attacked Israel 4 or 5 times and each time Israel has kicked the sh!t out ofthem and sent them packing back to whatever hell they came from. The land they took over from those wars, well to the victor go the spoils. Aint that a bitch asshole………

Israel does not occupy Palestine. It is the ancestral home of the Jews you libtard/pro terrorist supporter. The israelis were willing to live in peace, side-by-side with the Palestinians and Arabs. But since the inception of the Osraeli state in 1948 the Arabs have wanted nothing but war. They have attacked Israel 4 or 5 times and each time Israel has kicked the sh!t out ofthem and sent them packing back to whatever hell they came from. The land they took over from those wars, well to the victor go the spoils. Aint that a bitch asshole………

Obviously this counter terrorism expert is not aware that NATO and US Forces in Afghanistan are already doing that with drones and bombs on a daily basis.The average number of daily kills are between 20 to 26. Uncomfired reports are that a smaller number of kills are daily occurences in Yemen, Pakistan and other locales.

[...] Counter-terror ‘expert’ tells cops: Kill militant Muslims, ‘including children’ [...]

please do some reading then join the conversation when you have formed a coherent thought…..
thanks.

This person is one we need to ignore. Stop giving credence to stupidity by discussing it as though it’s sane.

first of all the plo was not created by palestinians it was created by gamel abdel nasser and later the arab league as a way to organization the various palestinian factions some joined some did not not all were in agreement,
and the reason why jordan was being threaten by the plo was because of the mass expulsion of palestinians during the 67 war which unlike the 48 war where one could argue(although i don’t) that some left of their own accord, these refugees many who were already refugee from 48 left from fear of death from idf attacks on civilian populations .as well as the fact that the hassemite kingdom(like the one britain installed when they created iraq), solely in power do to western (british) backing annexed the remainder of palestine, which many palestinians group resisted by force.
now im not going to go in to all the dubious “facts” one may find at palistinefact.org that are even contradicted by staunch zionist historians.
as far as something that the plo did for palistine ill name one, they obtained international reconition as the government of palestine in exile, whether or not palestinians viewed it as such.
i won’t bother with the stupidity of “jewish name” quip where we are in agreement
and the just as stupid insistence on the label of terrorist group. which i assume we are not.

that is a terror right there – kill his children!

that is a terror right there – kill his children!

that is a terror right there – kill his children!

We believe what we do, and you believe what you do. The question is that of anti-Christ, neither will you become ani-Christ nor will we.

We believe we are right in our thought, and I am sure you believe you are right in your thought. BUT WHAT I DO NOT UNDERSTAND, “WHY WE HAVE TO FIGHT AND FORCE THE OTHER PERSON, TO BELIEVE ACCORDING TO OUR TENNETS”

As for Jesus was praying, if he was, to whome did he pray? To himself or another deity, that he thought was God? This argument was raised some over a thousand years ago!

Who did he pray to?

Killing kids??? What a psychopath. Muslim anti-Christ? It says the anti-Christ will be Christian in the bible. More hate and war breeds more hate and war.

F*cking psychopath!
My Gawd! The CIA must be in dire straits if they’re scraping the barrel to this depth.

the unbeliever you mistranslate is reference to polytheist the original member of the ummah consisted in a large part of jews and christians

There is a statent that “If someone comes to kill you – you should kill him first”

If your life or your family’s life is threatened, I see an obligation that you should kill the potential killer first – It is your duty and obligation.

YJ D

Excuse me! A bunch of EUROPEANS belonging to one small sect, Zionism, of one religion, Judaism, who certainly did NOT have the backing of the majority of their co-religionists, including some who had been living in what was then called British Mandate Palestine for centuries, are able to con a newly formed United Nations dominated by a guilt ridden US and Europe into allowing them to steal a country from its native inhabitants using brutal terror tactics barely one step above what the US did to its natives and you actually have the gall to say the Palestinians don’t have the right to fight back!

That’s like telling the home invader who’s driven your family into the basement and attic that it’s OK for them to have the rest of the house to do with as they see fit.

And, no, I don’t want to hear any of that “God said I could have this land” nonsense. That is the “manifest destiny” argument that led to the physical genocide of the First Peoples in the US and their cultural genocide in most of the rest of the Americas, as well as Hitler’s whole “leibensraum” and “racial purity” movement that led to the Holocaust. All three ideas being ones that any sane person holds in abhorance.

Oh yeah!
You should fly your drones half way around the world to bomb that potential killer before he trades his camel for raft and sails the ocean to come kill you.
Yeah. Sure. Makes perfect sense.

Oh yeah!
You should fly your drones half way around the world to bomb that potential killer before he trades his camel for raft and sails the ocean to come kill you.
Yeah. Sure. Makes perfect sense.

Oh yeah!
You should fly your drones half way around the world to bomb that potential killer before he trades his camel for raft and sails the ocean to come kill you.
Yeah. Sure. Makes perfect sense.

This “expert” isnt speaking for me or my country. I’m sick of seeing and hearing this outright racist bullcrap on msm using fake terrorism, a no face, no name trumped up fear factor………simply for prolonging lying wars. Had enough yet?

This “expert” isnt speaking for me or my country. I’m sick of seeing and hearing this outright racist bullcrap on msm using fake terrorism, a no face, no name trumped up fear factor………simply for prolonging lying wars. Had enough yet?

Maronites are Christians who are considered to be “in Communion with Rome.” In other words, they can receive communion at Roman Catholic mass even though they have their own hierarchy. They are the main Christian sect in Lebanon. Some even speak a form of Aramaic.

Also, don’t get hung up on his name. Number one, the Mossad wouldn’t make that kind of stupid mistake; number two, names can be anything, depending on family, religion, etc. Not necessarily one that fits our preconceived notion of what a Palestinian name should be. After all Palestinians include other religions besides Muslims, in spite of the lies put out by the Israeli government. (How would the people of the US – at least 80% Christian – feel if they fully understod that their tax dollars were being used to brutalize their fellow Christians – at least 2% to 3% of Palestinians still residing in the Occupied Territories?)

Maronites are Christians who are considered to be “in Communion with Rome.” In other words, they can receive communion at Roman Catholic mass even though they have their own hierarchy. They are the main Christian sect in Lebanon. Some even speak a form of Aramaic.

Also, don’t get hung up on his name. Number one, the Mossad wouldn’t make that kind of stupid mistake; number two, names can be anything, depending on family, religion, etc. Not necessarily one that fits our preconceived notion of what a Palestinian name should be. After all Palestinians include other religions besides Muslims, in spite of the lies put out by the Israeli government. (How would the people of the US – at least 80% Christian – feel if they fully understod that their tax dollars were being used to brutalize their fellow Christians – at least 2% to 3% of Palestinians still residing in the Occupied Territories?)

Terror “Expert”
That says it all.

Terror “Expert”
That says it all.

The sociopaths are taking over.

The sociopaths are taking over.

Well, it took me a few minutes before I reply to your comment, because I wonder if you do understand what’s at stake right now in this world and who’s behind the wars in the Middle East and 9/11. The Trouble-Makers in this World right now are the Israel’s ZIONIST and USA’s RACIST. If you look carefully in your backyard , you will see that most of the RACIST in your country (US) are Christians (60 millions) and the worst are the Christian’s Zionist ( ex. John Hagee and his followers). Look carefully at your Government , Congress ,Homeland Security , Hollywood , Mainstream Media and TSA, just to name a few, ARE under ZIONIST’s CONTROL.(Rahm Emmanuel,Chertoff, Brohner, Murdock, el cetera)

Where are the Muslims in this picture ?

If you think that Muslims are behind 9/11, the massacre(S) at GAZA , the settlements in the Palestine , the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq , and the push for War against Iran … WELL my dear friend you should start saying : JUSTSAYNOTORACISM
JUSTSAYNOTOZIONISTCONTROL
JUSTSAYNOTOTOTALITARIANGOVERNMENT
JUSTSAYNOTOPOLICESTATE
JUSTSAYNOTOMEDIACONTROLSTATE
and START to AWAKEN and STOP PLAYING THEIR GAME of HATRED and DIVISION.

WE ARE ALL ONE THROUGH THE GOD’s EYES. There is one GOD and we are all BROTHERS AND SISTERS.

FAREWELL and GOD BLESS YOU,

Your CANADIAN BROTHER,

JP

Well, it took me a few minutes before I reply to your comment, because I wonder if you do understand what’s at stake right now in this world and who’s behind the wars in the Middle East and 9/11. The Trouble-Makers in this World right now are the Israel’s ZIONIST and USA’s RACIST. If you look carefully in your backyard , you will see that most of the RACIST in your country (US) are Christians (60 millions) and the worst are the Christian’s Zionist ( ex. John Hagee and his followers). Look carefully at your Government , Congress ,Homeland Security , Hollywood , Mainstream Media and TSA, just to name a few, ARE under ZIONIST’s CONTROL.(Rahm Emmanuel,Chertoff, Brohner, Murdock, el cetera)

Where are the Muslims in this picture ?

If you think that Muslims are behind 9/11, the massacre(S) at GAZA , the settlements in the Palestine , the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq , and the push for War against Iran … WELL my dear friend you should start saying : JUSTSAYNOTORACISM
JUSTSAYNOTOZIONISTCONTROL
JUSTSAYNOTOTOTALITARIANGOVERNMENT
JUSTSAYNOTOPOLICESTATE
JUSTSAYNOTOMEDIACONTROLSTATE
and START to AWAKEN and STOP PLAYING THEIR GAME of HATRED and DIVISION.

WE ARE ALL ONE THROUGH THE GOD’s EYES. There is one GOD and we are all BROTHERS AND SISTERS.

FAREWELL and GOD BLESS YOU,

Your CANADIAN BROTHER,

JP

Muhamamed Amin al-Husseini did not “participate aggressively in the Final Solution.” Yes, he said, and did, some outrageous things, but that certainly wasn’t one of them. If he had been as serious a threat as you claim, the Brits would most certaily have locked him up.

They certainly would have had no qualms about that, or almost anything else that would keep their empire running. Al-Husseini’s being allowed semi-free reign to run his mouth falls into the old “divide and conquer” routine. Something the Brits were masters at. Allowing the Arab nationalists and the Zionist Jewish sect to fight among themselves helped put off the day when those two groups might unite in their common hatred of the Brits. Each for their own reasons, of course.

Muhamamed Amin al-Husseini did not “participate aggressively in the Final Solution.” Yes, he said, and did, some outrageous things, but that certainly wasn’t one of them. If he had been as serious a threat as you claim, the Brits would most certaily have locked him up.

They certainly would have had no qualms about that, or almost anything else that would keep their empire running. Al-Husseini’s being allowed semi-free reign to run his mouth falls into the old “divide and conquer” routine. Something the Brits were masters at. Allowing the Arab nationalists and the Zionist Jewish sect to fight among themselves helped put off the day when those two groups might unite in their common hatred of the Brits. Each for their own reasons, of course.

They call it being against Socialism.

They call it being against Socialism.

How can a child be an extremist?

How can a child be an extremist?

How can a child be an extremist?

ARE taking over?

Ever since Ronnie Raygun began his anti government crusade greed and selfishness has been celebrated and glorified. Predictably after 30 years only the sociopaths are left standing

ARE taking over?

Ever since Ronnie Raygun began his anti government crusade greed and selfishness has been celebrated and glorified. Predictably after 30 years only the sociopaths are left standing

ARE taking over?

Ever since Ronnie Raygun began his anti government crusade greed and selfishness has been celebrated and glorified. Predictably after 30 years only the sociopaths are left standing

Have checked your comments, you come across as a try-hard with a pair of Punky Brewster sneakers and a felafel stuck to your forehead. If in fact you are human, go somewhere where people give a shit.

Have checked your comments, you come across as a try-hard with a pair of Punky Brewster sneakers and a felafel stuck to your forehead. If in fact you are human, go somewhere where people give a shit.

Have checked your comments, you come across as a try-hard with a pair of Punky Brewster sneakers and a felafel stuck to your forehead. If in fact you are human, go somewhere where people give a shit.

or mine, mine, mine allllll mine.

whioch leads one to concldue that NEOCON’s, Conservatives and Baggers are suffering from arrested development…..as in 7 year old development

or mine, mine, mine allllll mine.

whioch leads one to concldue that NEOCON’s, Conservatives and Baggers are suffering from arrested development…..as in 7 year old development

or mine, mine, mine allllll mine.

whioch leads one to concldue that NEOCON’s, Conservatives and Baggers are suffering from arrested development…..as in 7 year old development

Given that you seemed not to notice my second sentence, I claim the lucidity title.

I was merely responding to the explicit assertion that is usually made here that all brown people are innocent Muslims, and that all Christians, no matter where they live, are white and do not matter.

Hah. Explicit! Hah!

Given that you seemed not to notice my second sentence, I claim the lucidity title.

I was merely responding to the explicit assertion that is usually made here that all brown people are innocent Muslims, and that all Christians, no matter where they live, are white and do not matter.

Hah. Explicit! Hah!

Given that you seemed not to notice my second sentence, I claim the lucidity title.

I was merely responding to the explicit assertion that is usually made here that all brown people are innocent Muslims, and that all Christians, no matter where they live, are white and do not matter.

Hah. Explicit! Hah!

I know exactly what is at stake. I do not think a bunch of Muslims took out the world trade centers. It was an inside job by some people in the US government working for the NWO. Obama, like Bush, and most preseidents since Wilson are puppets for the Elite who control the money and power. They are all ursurpers of the constitution and are traitors.Whether they are Zionist or Illuminati or whatever you want to call them they are my enemy first and foremost.

You group all Christians as racists, there are some, just like some Muslims are racists as well, but not all Muslims are bad and not all Christians are bad. I just don’t like what Islam stands for, thus my screen name. It is a racist cult/religion and does not promote equal rights for all. Islam has been doing evil things since it was founded by a pedophile mass murderer almost 1500 years ago and will continue to do so as long as those in charge preach the hatred that spwes from their mouths.

I don’t play “There game” I see who is in control in our police state and who is in control in the Mulsim world. In Islam their radical clerics and Imams preach hate.That is the problem.

I know exactly what is at stake. I do not think a bunch of Muslims took out the world trade centers. It was an inside job by some people in the US government working for the NWO. Obama, like Bush, and most preseidents since Wilson are puppets for the Elite who control the money and power. They are all ursurpers of the constitution and are traitors.Whether they are Zionist or Illuminati or whatever you want to call them they are my enemy first and foremost.

You group all Christians as racists, there are some, just like some Muslims are racists as well, but not all Muslims are bad and not all Christians are bad. I just don’t like what Islam stands for, thus my screen name. It is a racist cult/religion and does not promote equal rights for all. Islam has been doing evil things since it was founded by a pedophile mass murderer almost 1500 years ago and will continue to do so as long as those in charge preach the hatred that spwes from their mouths.

I don’t play “There game” I see who is in control in our police state and who is in control in the Mulsim world. In Islam their radical clerics and Imams preach hate.That is the problem.

I know exactly what is at stake. I do not think a bunch of Muslims took out the world trade centers. It was an inside job by some people in the US government working for the NWO. Obama, like Bush, and most preseidents since Wilson are puppets for the Elite who control the money and power. They are all ursurpers of the constitution and are traitors.Whether they are Zionist or Illuminati or whatever you want to call them they are my enemy first and foremost.

You group all Christians as racists, there are some, just like some Muslims are racists as well, but not all Muslims are bad and not all Christians are bad. I just don’t like what Islam stands for, thus my screen name. It is a racist cult/religion and does not promote equal rights for all. Islam has been doing evil things since it was founded by a pedophile mass murderer almost 1500 years ago and will continue to do so as long as those in charge preach the hatred that spwes from their mouths.

I don’t play “There game” I see who is in control in our police state and who is in control in the Mulsim world. In Islam their radical clerics and Imams preach hate.That is the problem.

You are high, that is not what it means. The Quran calls Jews and Christians Apes and pigs for god sake. They are unbelievers in their eyes because they do not believe Allah is God. And if you don’t believe in Allah and Mohammad the pedophile you are an unbeliever. Go read the Quran and get back to me when you have an understanding of it.

You are high, that is not what it means. The Quran calls Jews and Christians Apes and pigs for god sake. They are unbelievers in their eyes because they do not believe Allah is God. And if you don’t believe in Allah and Mohammad the pedophile you are an unbeliever. Go read the Quran and get back to me when you have an understanding of it.

You are high, that is not what it means. The Quran calls Jews and Christians Apes and pigs for god sake. They are unbelievers in their eyes because they do not believe Allah is God. And if you don’t believe in Allah and Mohammad the pedophile you are an unbeliever. Go read the Quran and get back to me when you have an understanding of it.

You mean, unlike Christianity?

I know Judaism is generally no longer a proselytizing faith, but it certainly had it’s day if even half of the Old Testament stories are true. The massacre of ALL of the citizens of Jericho – including the women and children – through the use of a traitor is a prime example of the Jewish murder of non-believers.

Of course similar, but more carefully targeted, practices were adopted by the Zionists (not all Jews are Zionists, something most people forget due to Israeli/Zionist propaganda) in and around 1948 when a few villages, such as Deir Yassin and Dawaymeh were massacred in a terror program that effectively ethnically cleansed large swaths of what would become the 1948 Israel as word of the massacres spread causing other villages to flee in terror.

Walid Shoebat, like Pamela Geller is paid by Zionists to sew hatred.

The Israeli government and their supports know that this kind of bigotry is not just good for Israel but money in the pockets of the “anti-terror” industry.

The natives of that land were the Jews who were were forced out by Christians, Muslims and the Roman empire centuries ago. It was Jewish land long before Christianity came about and since Islam came about 600 years after Christianity that is not even up for discussion. That is all I was getting at. As you said Jews, Christians, Muslims were living there in 1948. The land was split up for the Jews and Palestinians. The Muslims did not want a Jewish state from word go and caused trouble from day one. As a matter of fact they don’t want a single jew to live in the middle east at all. Go learn some history please, you sound ignorant.

As for what we did to the Indians in the US it was wrong but that’s they way things were done back then. It is history and doesn’t concern me.

You are the one who needs to do some reading. I know my history and not the crap the liberals are teaching these days. Please call me a racist and tell me again I can’t spell. That’s all you liberals have these days when you can’t come up with a valid argument or thought. By the way I spell fine, ever here of typos?

Jesus was a good Jew. He never denied it. He celebrated Sabbath, the Jewish holy days, etc. just like the other working stiff Jews he hung out with.

Piss off Yanker , I am not a liberal …..

Go back to Youtube blowing wind with Pat condelll & his racist bunch of
15 yr old skinheads

I like the sound of Walid Shoebat. Militant muslims have little or no regard for human life so it seems only fair that the rest of society should have no regard for the lives of people who think nothing of blowing up anyone & everyone who has a different opinion to them. It’s time to start thinking about the human rights of the rest of society & our rights to believe in whatever god we choose instead of the rights of these murderous psychopaths.

Agreed, Devil. I find your posts very, very interesting and I really like your British take on America and Americans – its funnier as Hell. Ever been to the States?

Anyway – Rawstory is full of real antisemites – currently their all over another story thread about Israel targeting London as a “hotbed” of Hamas activity. Probably see you over there.

Are you on Facebook?

Agreed, Devil. I find your posts very, very interesting and I really like your British take on America and Americans – its funnier as Hell. Ever been to the States?

Anyway – Rawstory is full of real antisemites – currently their all over another story thread about Israel targeting London as a “hotbed” of Hamas activity. Probably see you over there.

Are you on Facebook?

Agreed, Devil. I find your posts very, very interesting and I really like your British take on America and Americans – its funnier as Hell. Ever been to the States?

Anyway – Rawstory is full of real antisemites – currently their all over another story thread about Israel targeting London as a “hotbed” of Hamas activity. Probably see you over there.

Are you on Facebook?

Gahhh…freaking Disqus…

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Did it again. My apologies for 2 misposts…thanks to Disqus.

Did it again. My apologies for 2 misposts…thanks to Disqus.

Did it again. My apologies for 2 misposts…thanks to Disqus.

don’t pretend to know things you don’t.
learn some history.

-from a jew who lived in Israel.

p.s. grow up.

don’t pretend to know things you don’t.
learn some history.

-from a jew who lived in Israel.

p.s. grow up.

don’t pretend to know things you don’t.
learn some history.

-from a jew who lived in Israel.

p.s. grow up.

[...] Walid Shoebat, a self-described “former PLO terrorist” who “now speaks out for USA and Israel,” reportedly made the comment at a speech during a conference of the International Counter-Terrorism Officers Association in Las Vegas this past October, according to the Huffington Post’s Chip Berlet. Read More Here [...]

All millitants should be treated as you say, not just Muslims. These are paid agents of non-Muslims, and their victims are Muslims, for the vast majority of victims.

BUT HOW ABOUT THIS TERRORIST? SHOULDN’T HE BE BROUGHT TO JUSTICE FOR KILLING SO MANY INNOCENT LIVES?

How about equal treatment. Militant Muslims, Militant Jews and Militant Christians have no respect for human life. We could do an “eye for an eye” project. I think the Israelis and the Americans need to start a lottery for execution right away with this project ’cause they have a lot of making up for lost body counts to do. No time to waste.

Oh my friend, if you think I am touch on Yanks and Israelis, you should read
my criticism about my fellow Brits. I am an equal opportunity offender.
I am tough with America because almost everything your government does, has some effect and repercussions on the lives of the rest of us, non US citizens.

Did I ever mentioned to you that I have Jewish relatives in my family in Sweden?. I have always said, as long as there is one Jew who speaks against the moral leprosy and corruption of the Israeli leadership, antisemitism is not only intellectually sickening but morally wrong and criminal.

I don’t have to agree with you or even personally like you, to respect you as a human being. You are not a short sighted individual & not racist,and in these days and ages, this is fucking luxury :)

Individuals like you and I must have a dialog, we are not enemies, we only have disagreements,I don’t think we want to leave the field to the pathological haters on both sides?.

I have a Facebook but I dont use it

Fine, not a liberal, just an idiot who is brainwashed by the Islamic cult then. Racist huh? You sure sound like a liberal progressive socialist. Racist is about all they can come back with these days when they don’t have an argument or facts to backup their idiotic statements.

Who do you think is going to buy your Hasbara crap? Palestine is the ancestral home of the Palestinians. The jews have been scattered all over the world since the beginning of time. They never had any home until that ill-fated brainscheme which was, mostly, due to all the terrorism caused by the Stern Gang. Some of us know the real version of history not the Zionist revisionist crap you try to pun on others.

The only ignorance is yours. Why don’t you read the writings of the actual Jewish leaders who were uniformly appalled by the inherent racism of the Zionist sect, as well as – in the case of the Orthodox/Ultra Orthodox Jews – the arrogance of the Zionists in thinking they had the right to create a country that only God had the right to give. I refer you to Isaac Breuer, Hillel Zeitlin, Aaron Shmuel Tamares, Hayyim, Elazar Shapiro (Muncatz), and Joel Teitelbaum, just to name some of the more well known Orthodox Jews who were against the Zionists.

As for your dismissal of concern about what happened to the First Peoples as being “the way things were none back then…” Second Wounded Knee happened in the 1970s, the Canadian government and churches have barely begun to acknowledge their hand in the murderous abuse of Indian children at their boarding schools which weren’t shut down until the 1960s, early 1970s, and Indians throughout the Americas are still generally treated as second class citizens.

Besides, what about the people who were living in the land before the Jews invaded from the Sinai under Joshua. Nor were the Jews ever completely expelled from the land, even after the Roman induced Diaspora, the Muslim conquest, or the Crusades.

That doesn’t even count the carefully orchestrated campaign of ethnic cleansing carried out by the Jewish forces during and after 1948 to not only rid the land of the Arabs, but to destroy any sign of their ever having been there. Even to the point of razing the emptied villages and planting forests over them – the ones that just burned were some of those that had been planted. So know it wasn’t all one way where the Arabs couldn’t stand the Jews. Certainly the Zionists were hell on simply clearing the land of anybody else. A plan they had started long before 1948 with their earliest writings,.. “ A land with no people for a people with no land.” An inherently racist statement with regards to that country from the word “go!”

The natives of that land were the Palestinians who were forced out by the jews. It was Palestinian land since the beginning of time. It was Palestinian land before the jews set their greedy eyes on it, thanks to Hertzl and the Stern Gang of terrorists.

As for what you did to the Natives is exactly the same thing that jews are doing to the Palestinians. It was wrong then and it’s still as wrong today.

Israel out of Palestine, now!

You are the one who needs to stop trolling your Hasbara crap. Just because you repeat lies and misinformation doesn’t make it so.

I do know that they have Catholics all over the ME but I didn’t know that’s what they were called or that there were different degrees of Catholicism. Now, there’s a cult for you! In case they didn’t have enough problems.

Now, you do realize that it is not the religion that determines their names but their ethnicity. The Arabs – in general – have the very long names 2 and 3 sometimes. That’s got nothing to do with religion.

One of the points I try to stress most is that of all the money going to them. I figure that would be one to get their interest, particularly, these days.

You are the troll and probably a follower of Mo the pedophile and murderer. Palestine wasn’t even called Palestine until after around 135 AD and was inhabited by the Jews for centuries before that. Read some real unbiased history here: http://www.mideastweb.org/briefhistory.htm.

You are the troll and probably a follower of Mo the pedophile and murderer. Palestine wasn’t even called Palestine until after around 135 AD and was inhabited by the Jews for centuries before that. Read some real unbiased history here: http://www.mideastweb.org/briefhistory.htm.

Since the begining of time you say? You are an idiot. It was originally settled by people that were not Arab or jewish at all. Palestine has been settled continuously for tens of thousands of years. Fossil remains have been found of Homo Erectus, Neanderthal and transitional types between Neanderthal and modern man. Archeologists have found hybrid Emmer wheat at Jericho dating from before 8,000 B.C., making it one of the oldest sites of agricultural activity in the world. Amorites, Canaanites, and other Semitic peoples related to the Phoenicians of Tyre entered the area about 2000 B.C. The area became known as the Land of Canaan. get an education please and come back when you have a clue.

Since the begining of time you say? You are an idiot. It was originally settled by people that were not Arab or jewish at all. Palestine has been settled continuously for tens of thousands of years. Fossil remains have been found of Homo Erectus, Neanderthal and transitional types between Neanderthal and modern man. Archeologists have found hybrid Emmer wheat at Jericho dating from before 8,000 B.C., making it one of the oldest sites of agricultural activity in the world. Amorites, Canaanites, and other Semitic peoples related to the Phoenicians of Tyre entered the area about 2000 B.C. The area became known as the Land of Canaan. get an education please and come back when you have a clue.

Certainly not some brainwashed fucking idiot like you…………..

Certainly not some brainwashed fucking idiot like you…………..

Are you the clown who used to run a Pseudo atheist channel on Youtube? You are not an agnostic but a racist xenophobic twerp masquerading as atheist.

” just an idiot who is brainwashed by the Islamic”.

Hahaha, if you say so,it must be true little man,most of the people around here are atheists but they are not racist windbag like you and your fellow “pseudo atheists” . You are not an agnostic but a Pat Condell xenophobic groupie…

You’ve got Chutzpah! You’re pushing Hasbara crap on people and you have the audacity to call others brainwashed. The irony. And ignorance. Not to mention that ever so typical jew self-righteousness.

I understand your anger towards Muslims , but I can say the same thing about the Catholic Church in the last 1000 years what they’ve done in Europe, Middle East, Asia and Canada especially with Our Native People.

One of the Problem you have mentioned is: Religious Belief . This is a disease in this World that cause hatred, division and misunderstanding of the real purpose of each man, woman and child on this Earth.
Second, when I mentioned their GAME, I was mentionning the way THEY want US to THINK and PLAY. Here in Canada and the US, the people are so entrap in their fear of loosing their materialist comfort, their bubble, paying their rent and taxes is as a normal way of life and obligation, watching TV series and movies killing and torturing people for brainwashing, mainstream media and religion for mind control, IT IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT US TO BE : ‘ OBEDIENT, GULLIBLE , ENSLAVE and HATE EACH OTHERs ‘. That’s the GAME.

They have almost succeeded unless WE THE PEOPLE stop playing their GAME by NOT paying the INCOME TAX, No more watching TV SERIES AND MOVIES that promote VIOLENCE and HATRED, do not CAST YOUR VOTE anymore for DUNKIES or ELEPHANTS and for Canada no more RED OR BLUE SMOCKS, WITHDRAW your FIAT MONEY from the Banksters and change it for GOLD or SILVER right away before the crisis and the LAST and not the LEAST, GO on the STREET and PROTEST PEACEFULLY to stop the WARS and GET RID of the PARASITES that want to implement their AGENDA : The ONE WORLD GOVERMENT and all that comes with it.

This is all part of a BIG MOVIE and WE all have a ROLE in this Movie and WE have the POWER to change the LAST SCENARIO of this MOVIE.

In the last 8 years , I have not paying my Income Taxes, no more TV, Mainstream media and Newspapers, no more Hollywood Movies and no more RED and BLUE Smocks. It wasn’t easy at the beginning, I was not any better than you, I was as much as you are entraped now in this ILLUSION. I just hope that some of you have already started to AWAKEN.

God Bless You All, and thanks to you Justsaynotoislam.

JPL

Your Felllow Canadian

Israel does occupy Palestine.

I’d rather be a libtard/pro terrorist supporter than a braindead reich wing jew baby killer.

The Israelis are the biggest terrorists the world has ever known. From the Stern Gang to Avigdor Lieberman not missing one in between. Israel is a terrorist state. A course to the humanity. Go troll somewhere else like the Jerusalem Post. That’s where your kind hangs out, troll.

Paid troll! And reported.

If you are going to come here be civilized, if you’re gonna troll, go somewhere else.

Religion can, sometimes, determine a name, but I was thinking more in terms of children of “mixed” marriages, or something similar.

This chump is not Jew,he is a New York Wasp who used to run a pseudo atheist channel on Youtube,using the Atheist platform to spread racism and anti Arab bigotry.Unfortunately his little group of prepubescent skinheads got punked and infiltrated by some Muslims kid from England,and the imbecile was chased out of Youtube, Hahaha

Don’t sweat on him, he is harmless as a Gay hamster

Hahaha, but you are the only idiot who was banned from Youtube for racist and hate speech.

OK … I am kind of confused here. According to many militant muslims the greatest thing that a person can be is a martyr. The most wonderful thing that a mother can do is to have children who become martyrs. Thus, is not advocating their killing just everyone on both sides working for the same goal. Or am I missing something here?

OK … I am kind of confused here. According to many militant muslims the greatest thing that a person can be is a martyr. The most wonderful thing that a mother can do is to have children who become martyrs. Thus, is not advocating their killing just everyone on both sides working for the same goal. Or am I missing something here?

Wrong tense.

Wrong tense.

To see why this may have been inevitable, do a search on the term orwells boot. I am about #4 or 5 depending on where you place the ‘ in orwells. factotum666 or dnusbaum. But there may be a solution. Read Sex and War, and Sex at Dawn. Also the Alphabet vs. the Goddess. Note the one thing that these books have in common.

To see why this may have been inevitable, do a search on the term orwells boot. I am about #4 or 5 depending on where you place the ‘ in orwells. factotum666 or dnusbaum. But there may be a solution. Read Sex and War, and Sex at Dawn. Also the Alphabet vs. the Goddess. Note the one thing that these books have in common.

[...] According to Berlet’s anonymous source, Shoebat’s comments got a warm reception from at least some of the people attending the conference: Our source had turned around after Shoebat’s speech and asked the woman in the chair behind them at the conference what she thought was the solution offered by Shoebat………more here [...]

I have no world to add as this has to defined and characterised. For me americans as a nation are terrorists as they have killed 175 people in the history so can,t be argued.
See the Muslim and Islamic history even in Afghanistan as they did nothing as Busch attacked them and made tora bora why? because he wanted to kill Muslims, even Irakis why they have killed one million irakis.
This is sad that so called civilised nations have become killing apparatus, even smaller nations like Denemark, and other states with no value have contibuted soldiers for Afghanistan why? are the west collectively doing harm to human beings.
The history will be written are these europeans will be called terrorist states.I am living in Germany since 46 years none of the terrorists were there but after 9/11 we became terrorists ?
I can put so many question but there will be no answer except that oil for the west is dear than the human life.

I have no world to add as this has to defined and characterised. For me americans as a nation are terrorists as they have killed 175 people in the history so can,t be argued.
See the Muslim and Islamic history even in Afghanistan as they did nothing as Busch attacked them and made tora bora why? because he wanted to kill Muslims, even Irakis why they have killed one million irakis.
This is sad that so called civilised nations have become killing apparatus, even smaller nations like Denemark, and other states with no value have contibuted soldiers for Afghanistan why? are the west collectively doing harm to human beings.
The history will be written are these europeans will be called terrorist states.I am living in Germany since 46 years none of the terrorists were there but after 9/11 we became terrorists ?
I can put so many question but there will be no answer except that oil for the west is dear than the human life.

I have no world to add as this has to defined and characterised. For me americans as a nation are terrorists as they have killed 175 people in the history so can,t be argued.
See the Muslim and Islamic history even in Afghanistan as they did nothing as Busch attacked them and made tora bora why? because he wanted to kill Muslims, even Irakis why they have killed one million irakis.
This is sad that so called civilised nations have become killing apparatus, even smaller nations like Denemark, and other states with no value have contibuted soldiers for Afghanistan why? are the west collectively doing harm to human beings.
The history will be written are these europeans will be called terrorist states.I am living in Germany since 46 years none of the terrorists were there but after 9/11 we became terrorists ?
I can put so many question but there will be no answer except that oil for the west is dear than the human life.

I have no world to add as this has to defined and characterised. For me americans as a nation are terrorists as they have killed 175 people in the history so can,t be argued.
See the Muslim and Islamic history even in Afghanistan as they did nothing as Busch attacked them and made tora bora why? because he wanted to kill Muslims, even Irakis why they have killed one million irakis.
This is sad that so called civilised nations have become killing apparatus, even smaller nations like Denemark, and other states with no value have contibuted soldiers for Afghanistan why? are the west collectively doing harm to human beings.
The history will be written are these europeans will be called terrorist states.I am living in Germany since 46 years none of the terrorists were there but after 9/11 we became terrorists ?
I can put so many question but there will be no answer except that oil for the west is dear than the human life.

[...] Tencer Raw Story Tuesday, December 28, [...]

I have am not familiar with the channel you are refering to. I am not racist, you’re so ignorant you don’t even know the definition of racist. hating a certain religion does not make me racist. A religion is not a race. You can call me a bigot, I will wear that badge with honor and pride and accept that as a compliment. And yes I do like Pat Condell, he knows what he is talking about. You think you are so high and mighty and probably think you’re smarter than everyone, like most people of your kind. But in reality you are a small man who is ignorant of the real world. Please go to a Muslim country and see how you are treated and then come back to me with a real argument….if you are not kidnapped and get your head cut off of course.

Hahaha, You cannot even get my gender right you ridiculous nitwit .

Condell is an hysterical & mentally unstable old man,?, he feeds on fear, hatred, bigotry & deception, and you are one of those scared little shitheads who is swallowing his turd,Lol

You are the personification of “hyper emotional frighten & insecure white male”. Enjoy the rest of your life, living in fear , you sissy boy

Islamophobia in America is reaching shocking levels. Advocating the genocidal extermination of children is ipso facto — terrorism. Anybody who credits Walid Shoebat’s evangelical Islamophobia needs counseling. Walid Shoebat is guilty of hate speech. Thank goodness that Rawstory is bringing this mushrooming problem to light. I wonder when it will reach the level of a resolution at the United Nations.

Anyone paid taxpayer funds to present such “lectures” needs to be given a battery of psychological exams and vetted before being hired. Shoebat’s comments are an embarrassment to anyone who is not a flat-earth believer. What a waste of tax-payer funds in this time of financial crisis!

There is a peaceful local Sufi Muslim colony in our area made up of largely white American Baby Boomers. They send our family Christmas cards every year, wishing us a joyful celebration of Jesus’ birth. Their daughters are some of the most gorgeous and popular girls both in school and on Facebook. American boys would be at quite a loss if these sweethearts were indiscriminately executed by Shoebat’s extremist followers. I hope the FBI is keeping track of everyone who follows his extremist teachings.

Anyone paid taxpayer funds to present such “lectures” needs to be given a battery of psychological exams and vetted before being hired. Shoebat’s comments are an embarrassment to anyone who is not a flat-earth believer. What a waste of tax-payer funds in this time of financial crisis!

There is a peaceful local Sufi Muslim colony in our area made up of largely white American Baby Boomers. They send our family Christmas cards every year, wishing us a joyful celebration of Jesus’ birth. Their daughters are some of the most gorgeous and popular girls both in school and on Facebook. American boys would be at quite a loss if these sweethearts were indiscriminately executed by Shoebat’s extremist followers. I hope the FBI is keeping track of everyone who follows his extremist teachings.

this is also in reply to niplewrench you two both must be fundamentalist in your religion in the Bible only the old testament says what you quoted (Christ said in the new testament “You have been told an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth, but I say not so, turn the other cheek” and also he said those people he led out of Egypt did not keep his covenant so he will remember them no more and made a new covenant” No man shall say to another know ye the Lord for my laws will be written in the hearts and minds of all, from the greatest to the least and I will be a God and they will be my people and I will forgive them all of their sins and iniquities” if Moses and his people were led out of Egypt and Christ will no longer remember them Why should we still believe in the old testament. As for Mohamed, He teaches never to kill a civilian or even a soldier if he lays down his weapon nor a plant if it still has green living parts. these are the teachings of Christ and Mohamed and only extremest fundamentalist from both Religions go by those old forsaken teachings and I believe these people in both Religions are the most dangerous people in the world today see Mathew and Hebrews in the New Testament

Thank you so much for your reply . It was kind of you to confirm the validity of my previous post . Please continue to enjoy your world of inarticulate frustration .

Oh, great! Just what we Atheists need: an Islamophobe pseudo-Atheist. In case we didn’t have enough of ‘em religionists chasing us with pitch forks and matches already. Glad they punked him. Ha ha! There’s nothing like justice with a twist of humor in it.

And, heeeeeey! Don’t you go being cruel to poor lil gay hamsters that way. Ye hear?

Ha ha ha! Look who’s talking. ROFL!

And, hey, Sarah Palin called. She wants all the extra periods back. If you’re not using them that is.

Ha ha ha! Look who’s talking. ROFL!

And, hey, Sarah Palin called. She wants all the extra periods back. If you’re not using them that is.

How would I know your gender based on your avatar? Call me what you want it does not hurt me a bit. You are part of the loud whining minority out there and are clueless. Since you are a woman, I beg you to go to a Muslim country; you will be treated even worse because of your gender.

I am not emotional, that would be you, the woman who acts on emotions. Frightened? I think not. You should be afraid of me. And i am hardly insecure, you don’t even know me and are spewing forth your own stereotypes now. Typical liberal bitch.

USA has officially turned into a Fascist Nazi state far worse than the repressive Soviet Union which once was. Advocating the murder of women, children and innocent civilians – this is already US policy in Iraq and Afghanistan – and they claim to be Christians. It is no surprise why there are far more people converting to Islam than any other religion – perhaps this rabid racist lunatic Walid Shoebat would like to have them construct gas chambers for all Muslims? What I think this dog dropping needs is a shoe and a bat on the side of his head.

[...] ‘Expert’ Tells Cops: Kill All Militant Muslims, ‘Including Children’ No State No Refugee Return [...]

“Jesus don’t like killen’no matter what the reasons for, and your flag decal won’t get you into heaven any more”John Prine, this is truth . You know something I’m not a Muslim but there’s a whole lot of times I wish I could say I’m not a Christian, I didn’t quote, because it was said about whites and blacks by Mr. Zappa in Watts CA during the Watts riots .
But about the article if we do this then we are the terrorists and as bad as the few crazy fundamentalists that did 9/11. How bad is that?

Tens of millions were killed last century for the campaign to create an Israel. The zionist bastards have Teflon coating/insurance policy known as the Judeo/Christian thing. Screw them and screw religion. Science rules when used for the better of evolution, not those fairy tales from the bible that helped to canonize the chosen ones scums.

Classical quote, I’ve seen this so many times on yahoo answers. It’s the beauty of taking stuff out of context, you can make anything look bad, this is the same method that terrorists adopt. Have a look at the previous line from the Qur’an: “Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors.” And how can we forget the line after it? “But if they desist, then lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.” So only fight if you are attacked and if the attackers top then so must you, lovely ain’t it?

By the way, in the Qur’an Christians and Jews and NOT unbelievers, they are “People of the Book”. that is, they are people to whom, Muslims are told in the Quran, God sent divinely inspired books through prophets. Muslims are required to respect them and their religion, and to honor all of the prophets, including Abraham, Moses, and Jesus as they honor Mohammed, the last prophet. The problem Muslims have with Judaism and Christianity is they abandoned God’s teaching, and disobeyed the commandments of God. And both altered the books God had sent to them, to suit their own interests.

Any fair reading of the Old and New Testament will easily discover the obvious alterations of the various books. One of the most obvious is the fact that Jesus spoke and the Jews of his time wrote Aramaic and Hebrew, while both the Old and New Testaments are in Greek. Jesus didn’t speak or write Greek.

Also most of Jesus words have been destroyed (counsel of Nicea) and those written by Paul and his close associate Luke form the core of the New Testament, while (as the oldest texts show) the words in the Gospels have been altered to support Paul’s idea that Jesus was the son of God, a concept completely at odds with what every other prophet before and after taught, rather insisted upon. God is one. The best English translations begin to acknowledge the alterations and mistranslations (although they continue to affirm that Jesus was God something Jesus never claimed, and contrary to his own words and actions that he, Jesus, was a servant of God, who prayed to God, and obeyed God).

Classical quote, I’ve seen this so many times on yahoo answers. It’s the beauty of taking stuff out of context, you can make anything look bad, this is the same method that terrorists adopt. Have a look at the previous line from the Qur’an: “Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors.” And how can we forget the line after it? “But if they desist, then lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.” So only fight if you are attacked and if the attackers top then so must you, lovely ain’t it?

By the way, in the Qur’an Christians and Jews and NOT unbelievers, they are “People of the Book”. that is, they are people to whom, Muslims are told in the Quran, God sent divinely inspired books through prophets. Muslims are required to respect them and their religion, and to honor all of the prophets, including Abraham, Moses, and Jesus as they honor Mohammed, the last prophet. The problem Muslims have with Judaism and Christianity is they abandoned God’s teaching, and disobeyed the commandments of God. And both altered the books God had sent to them, to suit their own interests.

Any fair reading of the Old and New Testament will easily discover the obvious alterations of the various books. One of the most obvious is the fact that Jesus spoke and the Jews of his time wrote Aramaic and Hebrew, while both the Old and New Testaments are in Greek. Jesus didn’t speak or write Greek.

Also most of Jesus words have been destroyed (counsel of Nicea) and those written by Paul and his close associate Luke form the core of the New Testament, while (as the oldest texts show) the words in the Gospels have been altered to support Paul’s idea that Jesus was the son of God, a concept completely at odds with what every other prophet before and after taught, rather insisted upon. God is one. The best English translations begin to acknowledge the alterations and mistranslations (although they continue to affirm that Jesus was God something Jesus never claimed, and contrary to his own words and actions that he, Jesus, was a servant of God, who prayed to God, and obeyed God).

Classical quote, I’ve seen this so many times on yahoo answers. It’s the beauty of taking stuff out of context, you can make anything look bad, this is the same method that terrorists adopt. Have a look at the previous line from the Qur’an: “Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors.” And how can we forget the line after it? “But if they desist, then lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.” So only fight if you are attacked and if the attackers top then so must you, lovely ain’t it?

By the way, in the Qur’an Christians and Jews and NOT unbelievers, they are “People of the Book”. that is, they are people to whom, Muslims are told in the Quran, God sent divinely inspired books through prophets. Muslims are required to respect them and their religion, and to honor all of the prophets, including Abraham, Moses, and Jesus as they honor Mohammed, the last prophet. The problem Muslims have with Judaism and Christianity is they abandoned God’s teaching, and disobeyed the commandments of God. And both altered the books God had sent to them, to suit their own interests.

Any fair reading of the Old and New Testament will easily discover the obvious alterations of the various books. One of the most obvious is the fact that Jesus spoke and the Jews of his time wrote Aramaic and Hebrew, while both the Old and New Testaments are in Greek. Jesus didn’t speak or write Greek.

Also most of Jesus words have been destroyed (counsel of Nicea) and those written by Paul and his close associate Luke form the core of the New Testament, while (as the oldest texts show) the words in the Gospels have been altered to support Paul’s idea that Jesus was the son of God, a concept completely at odds with what every other prophet before and after taught, rather insisted upon. God is one. The best English translations begin to acknowledge the alterations and mistranslations (although they continue to affirm that Jesus was God something Jesus never claimed, and contrary to his own words and actions that he, Jesus, was a servant of God, who prayed to God, and obeyed God).

“You should be afraid of me”.

Aww, Toughie, When someone kicks you in the nuts, it is painful regardless of the gender of the person who does it…..

“You should be afraid of me”.

Aww, Toughie, When someone kicks you in the nuts, it is painful regardless of the gender of the person who does it…..

“You should be afraid of me”.

Aww, Toughie, When someone kicks you in the nuts, it is painful regardless of the gender of the person who does it…..

Classical quote, I’ve seen this so many times on yahoo answers. It’s the beauty of taking stuff out of context, you can make anything look bad, this is the same method that terrorists adopt. Have a look at the previous line from the Qur’an: “Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors.” And how can we forget the line after it? “But if they desist, then lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.” So only fight if you are attacked and if the attackers top then so must you, lovely ain’t it?

Classical quote, I’ve seen this so many times on yahoo answers. It’s the beauty of taking stuff out of context, you can make anything look bad, this is the same method that terrorists adopt. Have a look at the previous line from the Qur’an: “Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors.” And how can we forget the line after it? “But if they desist, then lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.” So only fight if you are attacked and if the attackers top then so must you, lovely ain’t it?

Classical quote, I’ve seen this so many times on yahoo answers. It’s the beauty of taking stuff out of context, you can make anything look bad, this is the same method that terrorists adopt. Have a look at the previous line from the Qur’an: “Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors.” And how can we forget the line after it? “But if they desist, then lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.” So only fight if you are attacked and if the attackers top then so must you, lovely ain’t it?

Yes Sir…..

Did I mentioned, I used to feed my Python with living mouses :)

i thought you kidnapped newborns from the hospital for that…

Which Python? Do tell! :)

Naw, she just eats does. As does every good Atheist in the privacy of their own dinning room

Why should anyone be surprised or shocked about Mr. Shoebat’s solution. It is the standard solution for European’s conquest of the rest of the world since day one.

“”Nits breed lice,” John Milton Chivington decreed, as a rationalization for killing Cheyenne non-combatants at Sand Creek, Colorado in 1864.”

Nothing changes when you believe you have moral superiority and god on your side. Mr. Chivington was a part time Methodist preacher.

Why should anyone be surprised or shocked about Mr. Shoebat’s solution. It is the standard solution for European’s conquest of the rest of the world since day one.

“”Nits breed lice,” John Milton Chivington decreed, as a rationalization for killing Cheyenne non-combatants at Sand Creek, Colorado in 1864.”

Nothing changes when you believe you have moral superiority and god on your side. Mr. Chivington was a part time Methodist preacher.

When I was a kid I spent some time living in Qatar where my dad was working,he used to have a Python snake pet from Papua New Guinea, and we used to feed him with mouses :)

If you want the readily available solution to the obvious problem, simply learn how the power-damaged human mind functions. It is just knowledge. Anyone can learn it.

But for fear of knowledge, the humans will keep blaming and attacking the other guy, rather than learning the knowledge of how the other guy became the other guy. To him, you are the other guy.

Respectfully, DougBuchanan.com

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If you really take seriously that “kill ‘em all” nonsense that the Marines spew when they’re jogging, then you are way beyond any hope of redemption, denny. It’s meant to rev you up for a specific fight, not to be a general guideline for international relations.

May God have mercy on your soul, once you buy it back from the war-mongering fools who have marched this country into the abyss.

People like you are embarrassment to America and the human race. Shame on you. And you know where you can shove my big crayola.

If you really take seriously that “kill ‘em all” nonsense that the Marines spew when they’re jogging, then you are way beyond any hope of redemption, denny. It’s meant to rev you up for a specific fight, not to be a general guideline for international relations.

May God have mercy on your soul, once you buy it back from the war-mongering fools who have marched this country into the abyss.

People like you are embarrassment to America and the human race. Shame on you. And you know where you can shove my big crayola.

If you really take seriously that “kill ‘em all” nonsense that the Marines spew when they’re jogging, then you are way beyond any hope of redemption, denny. It’s meant to rev you up for a specific fight, not to be a general guideline for international relations.

May God have mercy on your soul, once you buy it back from the war-mongering fools who have marched this country into the abyss.

People like you are embarrassment to America and the human race. Shame on you. And you know where you can shove my big crayola.

If you really take seriously that “kill ‘em all” nonsense that the Marines spew when they’re jogging, then you are way beyond any hope of redemption, denny. It’s meant to rev you up for a specific fight, not to be a general guideline for international relations.

May God have mercy on your soul, once you buy it back from the war-mongering fools who have marched this country into the abyss.

People like you are embarrassment to America and the human race. Shame on you. And you know where you can shove my big crayola.

Cat food is a good thing, and fun to chew, Twisty, but I like stayin’ skinny like my noble ancestor the coyote.

Love your smile, by the way.

:)

Cat food is a good thing, and fun to chew, Twisty, but I like stayin’ skinny like my noble ancestor the coyote.

Love your smile, by the way.

:)

Cat food is a good thing, and fun to chew, Twisty, but I like stayin’ skinny like my noble ancestor the coyote.

Love your smile, by the way.

:)

Cat food is a good thing, and fun to chew, Twisty, but I like stayin’ skinny like my noble ancestor the coyote.

Love your smile, by the way.

:)

Did they say his name was SHoebat? How about dingbat? Or maybe Killerbat. Anyway, that guy is not Christian by any means. He is just another useful idiot they trotted out to help bring about the “Apo- colapse” of the USA. Our government has always recycled left-over sociopaths from failed regimes, that’s just us doing our little bit for humanity. Heck. AmeriKA used Mengele as “Dr. Green” for the MULKTRA, program in the 1960′s and 70′s. So this dude is strictly entry level.

Useful idiots like Shoebat are even more expendable than the folks he plans to exterminate. He will die by the very means he advocates should be used against others, mark these words. If you live by the sword,, you will die by the sword. That open-mouth- insert-Shoebat is very ignorant concerning how to accuratetly pretend the faith he claims. …and he’s hardly worthy of all the fuss, no? The real culprit here is the agency that hired this goonshow.

[...] cops: Kill militant Muslims, ‘including children’By Ali K. – December 30, 2010 Tweet Source: Raw StoryA counter-terrorism consultant told a meeting of law enforcement officials that the way to combat [...]

Actually, nonviolence has proven to be much more effective for promoting lasting social change than violence has ever been.

I am against religion as a whole, as it requires the suspension of critical thought and encourages “faith” instead, which means nothing more to me than assertions that cannot be proved. I would rather believe the evidence of my own eyes and ears over and above any “messenger” from a god who seems rather silly and capricious, much like its followers. Unfortunately, you might have noticed that a good number of these followers lay less emphasis on the good that these teachers taught (Love thy neighbour as thyself) and more on god as some kind of vengeance-wreaking allfather who sounds a lot more like William Blake’s Nobodaddy than anything else I ever heard of.

I am against religion as a whole, as it requires the suspension of critical thought and encourages “faith” instead, which means nothing more to me than assertions that cannot be proved. I would rather believe the evidence of my own eyes and ears over and above any “messenger” from a god who seems rather silly and capricious, much like its followers. Unfortunately, you might have noticed that a good number of these followers lay less emphasis on the good that these teachers taught (Love thy neighbour as thyself) and more on god as some kind of vengeance-wreaking allfather who sounds a lot more like William Blake’s Nobodaddy than anything else I ever heard of.

Well ,I don’t believe in god as a supreme being all though I like to read about theosophical things .god to me is the sum of all humanities ,God knows all, but only through the eyes of men and as they learn or create things he learns and creates things
I certainly don,t belong to any religion. so I suppose I’m an atheist of a sort.Every one knows the sum of all realities isn’t all good it includes its opposite. so, I can understand why religion exists because its opposite does.Cant have one without the other.
and I certainly don’t agree with the actions taken in this article and think it would only make the world worse than it already is. But what can we do ?

Well ,I don’t believe in god as a supreme being all though I like to read about theosophical things .god to me is the sum of all humanities ,God knows all, but only through the eyes of men and as they learn or create things he learns and creates things
I certainly don,t belong to any religion. so I suppose I’m an atheist of a sort.Every one knows the sum of all realities isn’t all good it includes its opposite. so, I can understand why religion exists because its opposite does.Cant have one without the other.
and I certainly don’t agree with the actions taken in this article and think it would only make the world worse than it already is. But what can we do ?

your absolutely right man. How can anyone think when there is something terrible like that going on in the world, that doing more of it or teaching to do it could possibly make the world a better place. I say do more of the opposite be more tolerant and accepting.

your absolutely right man. How can anyone think when there is something terrible like that going on in the world, that doing more of it or teaching to do it could possibly make the world a better place. I say do more of the opposite be more tolerant and accepting.

[...] Counter-terror ‘expert’ tells cops: Kill militant Muslims, ‘including children’  A counter-terrorism consultant told a meeting of law enforcement officials that the way to combat militant Muslims is to "kill them … including the children," says a news report.Walid Shoebat, a self-described "former PLO terrorist" who "now speaks out for USA and Israel," reportedly made the comment at a speech during a conference of the International Counter-Terrorism Officers Association in Las Vegas this past October, according to the Huffington Post's Chip Berlet.Religion writer Richard Bartholomew describes Shoebat as "a pseudo-expert on terrorism, Islamic extremism, and Biblical prophecy, and he teaches that Obama is a secret Muslim and that the Bible has prophesised a Muslim anti-Christ."In comments at the Huffington Post, Michael Riker, head of ICTOA, which sponsored the Las Vegas conference, defended Shoebat."What you hear from Walid is the TRUTH," he wrote. Speaking about the Las Vegas conference, Riker said "the attendees were glued to what Walid had to say and the majority of them agreed. The liberal media is afraid to hear what the truth really is. Who has been planning attacks on our country? We are in a war of ideology and if you don't know that you need to get you head out of the sand."Hmmmm….You don't treat cancer with plastic surgery.Read the full story here.  [...]

Even Shoebat’s Wikipedia page shows what a fraud he is:
Shoebat claimed that he threw a bomb at Bank Leumi, an Israeli bank, in Bethlehem. He told Britain’s Sunday Telegraph “I was terribly relieved when I heard on the news later that evening that no one had been hurt or killed by my bomb.” However, the bank has no record of the incident. Also, Israeli newspapers at that time did not report any such incident. The authenticity of Shoebat’s account has been disputed by many sources. The Jerusalem Post also disputed the authenticity of Shoebat’s account of his terrorist history. The paper stated that Shoebat claimed bombing has been rejected both by Bank Leumi, which claims no such attack took place, and by Shoebat’s own relatives.
(he claims he bombed a bank and watched the report on the news, which turns out to be a tall tale)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walid_Shoebat#Supposed_bombing_of_Bank_Leumi

He wouldn’t be the only fraudster trying to brief people as an expert on terrorism using fake credentials of being a former muslim. Ergun Caner, who claimed to be a former Muslim, was also used as an expert to brief the US Marine corps, only to be revealed as a complete liar and fraud (google his name and you can’t miss the unraveling). These should be huge news story in themselves, that our government and troops are being briefed by known con-artists to confirm their own hysteria.

His solution would work IF you actually wanted complete war with 1.2 Billion other people. OTOH if you are looking for a peaceful solution then I think a place to start would be his arrest for incitement to violence/

[...] Raw Story -El comentario pone de relieve la creciente preocupación entre los rightsadvocates humanosTambién pone de relieve las preocupaciones entre la lucha contra el terrorismo, los altos funcionarios que las normas para la formación de la lucha contra el terrorismo no son adecuadas, y, posiblemente, dañan la seguridad nacional. Según la fuente anónima de Berlet, los comentarios de Shoebat tiene una recepción tibia por lo menos de algunos de los asistentes a la conferencia: [...]

“Walid Shoebat, a self-described ‘former PLO terrorist’ who “now speaks out for USA and Israel….”

That’s all they need to say. He’s no expert, based on the misinformation that he gives on Islam and Muslims.