That horribly liberal 9th Circuit.

That horribly liberal 9th Circuit.

Dumbya made appointments to the 9th, Jay Bybee is just one, that has turned it into a bastion of far right lunatics. Even Regan appointees of that court, as the article above mentions, are troubled by the decisions coming out of that cesspool of regression.

“Welcome to the fishbowl”

http://www.prisonplanet.com/judge-alex-kozinski-the-fourth-amendment-is-gone-welcome-to-the-fish-bowl.html

There is no 4th amendment anymore, the fascist police state trumps sanity.

Edit:
Not only is the police state worsening, but the courts are as well. There was a time when the accused were innocent until proven guilty, the burden of proof was upon the prosecution. The burden is now upon the accused to prove their innocence, if you disagree ask any trial lawyer. After 911 and all the hysteria and fear mongering, our judicial system went sour to say the least. It was going that way for years but 911 was used to degrade the system much further, it the final nail in the coffin of American justice.

Kudos to Judge Jurden for attempting to protect citizen’s right to privacy. Unfortunately when and if this gets in front of the supreme court we can predict how they’ll decide it. We’re sliding down the chute to being a total police state in the US and the dumbass public thinks that’s okay to “keep us safe from the terrorists” (BS).

Nothing to worry about as long as you don’t vote against Republican interests or can dodge a Stinger missile that’s been fed GPS coordinates after you’ve done something liberal and treasonous like opened an account at a credit union.

I hope it goes before the supreme court. May as well get it over with.

In for a penny, in for a pound…

Its heartening to think that there are still a few good judges out there…even if they are outnumbered and doomed to be overruled by different courts.

[...] Raw Story | 30 December 2010: [...]

Does the defendant get his weed back?

I’m looking over the comments and it’s good to see that no one is under the illusion that when a judge says something that makes sense, he or she won’t be overruled on appeal.

Sometimes it looks like Americans are living in a very well regulated poultry farm. Sort of a big agribusiness where every little animal is monitored on a computer – when and what they eat, how much light they’re getting, their weight and when the optimum time to ring the little sucker’s necks and ship ‘em out for dinner has arrived.

I’m sure if the billionaires who play the tune that all Americans are dancing to these days were to propose selling excess Americans to the Chinese for their meat, Fox News would spin it as something Jesus would do and the people would buy into it hook, line and sinker.

It’s quite a show.

Sometimes it looks like Americans are living in a very well regulated poultry farm. Sort of a big agribusiness where every little animal is monitored on a computer – when and what they eat, how much light they’re getting, their weight and when the optimum time to ring the little sucker’s necks and ship ‘em out for dinner has arrived.

I’m sure if the billionaires who play the tune that all Americans are dancing to these days were to propose selling excess Americans to the Chinese for their meat, Fox News would spin it as something Jesus would do and the people would buy into it hook, line and sinker.

It’s quite a show.

What seems to pervade much of the conversation these days is the reference to Orwell and the novel ’1984′ It is in so many strings of comment on various sites. The evidence (it’s ample and mounting) should be taken as an indication of the development and implementation of the security state. The radar may have picked this up too late.

What seems to pervade much of the conversation these days is the reference to Orwell and the novel ’1984′ It is in so many strings of comment on various sites. The evidence (it’s ample and mounting) should be taken as an indication of the development and implementation of the security state. The radar may have picked this up too late.

Nope. The Delaware cops already handed it over to the local CIA guy so the agency can double its money with it. Got lots of secret wars to fund, you know.

1984 is what Robert Foster is reading right now.

Hopefully you find this screencap amusing, I saw your comment on another site and then saw this one on a thread about warrantless tracking, and combined with your username, it was worth a little gaming of the system.

Signed
Nota Stalker

The Orwellian police state is already in existence.

Police in Delaware may soon be unable to use global positioning systems (GPS) to keep tabs on a suspect unless they have a court-signed warrant, thanks to a recent ruling by a superior court judge who cited famed author George Orwell in her decision.

Well, that makes all the difference. Thank heavens for that court order.

Everyday, I see something that reminds me that ‘reality’ has been redefined in the last phase of the empire. Used to be that art imitated reality since 2000, life imitates art and this is the proof. A judge citing Orwell in a legal opinion. Wherever good ole George is, he must be twisting and turning over this.

The article doesn’t say that the Delaware judge’s sensible ruling will be appealed, but it does say that the ruling by the US Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals will be appealed to the Supreme Court.

Since it’s not apparent that the corporations have a horse in this race, the issue may get a fair hearing, and the Ninth Circuit Court ruling could be struck down.

Did you forget about that other article about how rigged the corporate Supreme Court is? If this goes in front of them, we’ll loose it for sure.

[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by GottaLaff and others. GottaLaff said: RT @42bkdodgr: @GottaLaff RT @TLW3: Judge warns of ‘Orwellian state’ in warrantless GPS tracking case http://bit.ly/dVW5si #p2 #p21 #dems [...]

That’s what I was alluding to earlier. The general understanding that we have now to deal with the present reality using Orwellian references and counter reasoning.

Y’a think?

Wow, Judge Jurden is a hero for all Americans who love freedom and the Constitution. It is amazing how many plainly unconstitutional laws the Feds and local police have adopted contrary to all that is just.

Well ladies and gentlemen, this is the future of our country regardless of what the courts may rule; after all this ruling was passed down by a ‘liberal’ judge. If you choose not to take advantage of your constitutional rights, you will simply be sheep waiting for slaughter.

Stop consuming. Stop giving your hard-earned money to to the corporations that endeavor to cultivate a society of sheep so that they can continue to take. The people have the power, they simply choose to continue to play by their rules.

Your homes will be theirs, the future of your children will be theirs, your lives will be theirs. All of the statements will be true if we allow it to happen.

I for one,know that they use the GPS on your cell phone, The Day Seaver’s were forced from the
Family Farm (2/15/2007). The Black Kevlar Vests, admitted, they had used GPS on the cell phones to know that Melissa Seaver was home alone, with my three year old Grandson.

They also admitted that they didn’t have Court Order,Arrest or Search Warrants, but hey had guns
and thugs, and was led by John Lizenby, Sheriff of Scott County, the only time that anyone said anything of who they were, John Howser, stated in a news report to the RoundABout newspaper
that the “U S Marshal’s throwed us off the farm and told us not to come back”

God Bless this Judge, may Judge Jurden, know all the Blessing of our Creator.

by: Melissa Seaver, landrightsnfarming

If you listen or read Chris Hedges lecture, he talks about this. It’s a condition inherent to the end of Empire, everything is turned upside down. However, you have to realize too that ‘reality’ before was anything but. This is more like the Matrix.

There’s a fine line getween genius and insanity: the 49th Parallel. (Pity poor Canada. Who would want the USA for a next-door neighbor?)

There’s a fine line getween genius and insanity: the 49th Parallel. (Pity poor Canada. Who would want the USA for a next-door neighbor?)

The convoluted evolution of the security state is Matrix like. As the terms which are used are nothing but hollow charades of words that are filled with conviction and truth. It torments the thoughts.

The convoluted evolution of the security state is Matrix like. As the terms which are used are nothing but hollow charades of words that are filled with conviction and truth. It torments the thoughts.

These fine lines were drawn by fine people! Look at the fruit of these lines. The Durand Line for the Afghanis, and Pakistanis. Kahsmir, Korea, the Balkans, the countries of Africa, where Sudan is again finding lines of division. Most of these lines of division were made by the hands of men from foreign lands seeking empire, the making of considered genius at the time, the results now insanity. Off subject a bit, sorry.

These fine lines were drawn by fine people! Look at the fruit of these lines. The Durand Line for the Afghanis, and Pakistanis. Kahsmir, Korea, the Balkans, the countries of Africa, where Sudan is again finding lines of division. Most of these lines of division were made by the hands of men from foreign lands seeking empire, the making of considered genius at the time, the results now insanity. Off subject a bit, sorry.

Tell me about it! I was transplanted into this society and spent decades trying to figure out what the hell was wrong with me or what I was doing wrong. I finally gave up. Only in time to realize that it wasn’t me after all. ha ha! How terrifyingly pathetic this country is!

Wanna see Police State.
Florida Town to deploy “No Refusal DUI Check Points”.
You refuse to blow the balloon, or walk the straight line, a judge will be on site to sign an order allowing them to draw blood samples.

http://www.wtsp.com/news/topstories/story.aspx?storyid=165079&catid=250

This won’t stop them. They’ll just become more secretive about it. It’s like when George Bush said, “We don’t spy on American citizens. That would be illegal.”

Similar events took place in Germany during the 1920′s. This gave way to the likes of Hitler to appear as a saviour to the people.

Or upheld. This is the most conservative court in decades. There are few rulings lately that protect the rights of the people over the power of the government.

Yep, absolutely disgusting.

Yep, absolutely disgusting.

Yep, absolutely disgusting.

Hell, with my activism over the years they probably put a GPS tracker up my ass or glued to the inside of my upper nasal passage years ago. Sniff….sniff….sniff….

Hell, with my activism over the years they probably put a GPS tracker up my ass or glued to the inside of my upper nasal passage years ago. Sniff….sniff….sniff….

Hell, with my activism over the years they probably put a GPS tracker up my ass or glued to the inside of my upper nasal passage years ago. Sniff….sniff….sniff….

You’re right, the likelihood is that it will be upheld, given the makeup of the current court. But then again, they could throw the proles a bone with this one in the run-up to another royal screwing like Citizens United.

You’re right, the likelihood is that it will be upheld, given the makeup of the current court. But then again, they could throw the proles a bone with this one in the run-up to another royal screwing like Citizens United.

You’re right, the likelihood is that it will be upheld, given the makeup of the current court. But then again, they could throw the proles a bone with this one in the run-up to another royal screwing like Citizens United.

Now you’re scaring me.

And off topic, eff your avatar. Or at least BofA.

It will likely get appealed to the Supremes, and you’re correct!! We will lose, again.

[...] Jurden was ruling on the case of Michael D. Holden, who police say was pulled over with 10 lbs. of marijuana in his car last February. Holden was allegedly named by a DEA task force informant in 2009, and in early 2010, without obtaining a warrant, police placed a GPS device on his car, allowing them to follow him whenever he used the vehicle. READ RAW STORY [...]

Hope is in the people…or around them. Their backwardsness must be forgiven, their songs embraced. We have very little time, friends.

nasal…. hell they put it into your teeth a long time ago…. :D

It is only a matter of time before something from her past will be brought to light and she is disbarred and/or embarrassed. What she did here was a great step, but at what cost to herself…..

Another heroic woman judge coming to the rescue of the Fourth Amendment!

On Aug. 17, 2006, Michigan District Court Judge Anna Diggs Taylor, a Carter appointee, ruled in favor of the plaintiffs in ACLU v NSA. The ACLU (whom I’m proud to support on a monthly basis) website says in an article on the event:

"By holding that even the president is not above the law, the court has done its duty under our Constitution to serve as a check on executive power," said ACLU Associate Legal Director Ann Beeson, who argued the case before Judge Taylor. "Throwing out the Constitution will not make Americans any safer."

"There are no hereditary Kings in America and no powers not created by the Constitution. So all ‘inherent powers’ must derive from that Constitution," wrote Judge Taylor.

To me it’s noteworthy that she quotes Justice Potter Stewart’s majority opinion in the 1967 decision of Katz v. U.S., where he wrote for the Court that searches conducted without prior approval by a judge or magistrate were per se unreasonable, under the Fourth Amendment. This of course in stark contrast to the comments of Gen, Elmer Fudd — uh, sorry, I mean Michael Hayden, after he was NSA chief, telling a reporter over and over that probable cause was not part of the Fourth Amendment.

Another heroic woman judge coming to the rescue of the Fourth Amendment!

On Aug. 17, 2006, Michigan District Court Judge Anna Diggs Taylor, a Carter appointee, ruled in favor of the plaintiffs in ACLU v NSA. The ACLU (whom I’m proud to support on a monthly basis) website says in an article on the event:

"By holding that even the president is not above the law, the court has done its duty under our Constitution to serve as a check on executive power," said ACLU Associate Legal Director Ann Beeson, who argued the case before Judge Taylor. "Throwing out the Constitution will not make Americans any safer."

"There are no hereditary Kings in America and no powers not created by the Constitution. So all ‘inherent powers’ must derive from that Constitution," wrote Judge Taylor.

To me it’s noteworthy that she quotes Justice Potter Stewart’s majority opinion in the 1967 decision of Katz v. U.S., where he wrote for the Court that searches conducted without prior approval by a judge or magistrate were per se unreasonable, under the Fourth Amendment. This of course in stark contrast to the comments of Gen, Elmer Fudd — uh, sorry, I mean Michael Hayden, after he was NSA chief, telling a reporter over and over that probable cause was not part of the Fourth Amendment.

Like Sheriff Eliot Spitzer, who got too close to the rustlers on Wall Street, eh? He’s lucky to be alive, I guess. They iced the DC Madame.

Like Sheriff Eliot Spitzer, who got too close to the rustlers on Wall Street, eh? He’s lucky to be alive, I guess. They iced the DC Madame.

Ah, but the key element of the Matrix is that the people fall for it — they believe it, or enough of it to keep it afloat. They make excuses for the Große Lüge, the Big Lie, just as Hitler said they do, in ch. 10 of Mein Kampf.

Remember in the Matrix, as they’re walking down the Chicago street and the woman with the red dress goes by, only to turn into Agent Smith, Morpheus tells Neo, “However much we may want to free them, as long as they are plugged into the Matrix, they are our enemy.”

That is so true. Somehow, we need to unplug these people, or we’re all toast.

Ah, but the key element of the Matrix is that the people fall for it — they believe it, or enough of it to keep it afloat. They make excuses for the Große Lüge, the Big Lie, just as Hitler said they do, in ch. 10 of Mein Kampf.

Remember in the Matrix, as they’re walking down the Chicago street and the woman with the red dress goes by, only to turn into Agent Smith, Morpheus tells Neo, “However much we may want to free them, as long as they are plugged into the Matrix, they are our enemy.”

That is so true. Somehow, we need to unplug these people, or we’re all toast.

My testimony is quite similar to yours, although I grew up in this culture. Only after I learned about the overthrow of Mossadegh did I begin to think straight (that was July 2003). Then I read Michael Meacher’s OpEd in the Guardian, “This war on terrorism is bogus”, and learned about the “new Pearl Harbor” in the PNAC document, and — voilà! I stood up in my pod and pulled the tube out of my throat, staring at a million sleeping pod people in the dark landscape, appalled — I never recovered from that. No Blue Pill for me!

My testimony is quite similar to yours, although I grew up in this culture. Only after I learned about the overthrow of Mossadegh did I begin to think straight (that was July 2003). Then I read Michael Meacher’s OpEd in the Guardian, “This war on terrorism is bogus”, and learned about the “new Pearl Harbor” in the PNAC document, and — voilà! I stood up in my pod and pulled the tube out of my throat, staring at a million sleeping pod people in the dark landscape, appalled — I never recovered from that. No Blue Pill for me!

If there is hope, wrote Winston, it lies in the proles.

If there was hope, it must lie in the proles, because only there in those swarming disregarded masses, 85 per cent of the population of Oceania, could the force to destroy the Party ever be generated. The Party could not be overthrown from within. Its enemies, if it had any enemies, had no way of coming together or even of identifying one another. Even if the legendary Brotherhood existed, as just possibly it might, it was inconceivable that its members could ever assemble in larger numbers than twos and threes. Rebellion meant a look in the eyes, an inflexion of the voice, at the most, an occasional whispered word. But the proles, if only they could somehow become conscious of their own strength, would have no need to conspire. They needed only to rise up and shake themselves like a horse shaking off flies. If they chose they could blow the Party to pieces tomorrow morning. Surely sooner or later it must occur to them to do it? And yet-!

You ain’t far off there, big guy. Except, “wring” their necks.

What would this country be like, Casper ol’ buddy, if 51% of the average Joe Schmoes knew the central — make that, “dominant” role in the worldwide drug trade played by the CIA?

Unless Clarence and Antonin are at the next Koch meeting, and the building gets hit by a meteor, it’s just a matter of time until the 4th amendment will be ruled meaningless by the “Court of last resort”.

(DISCLAIMER: I hereby declare that I do not control or direct any of the four known quantum forces, and cannot directly or indirectly cause or be liable for the aforementioned “Act of God”).

Wow! I wish I could do that — post 2063 comments and get 6666 likes. That’s better than triple word score!

Don’t forget religion! That’s how ‘merica divides the good people from the heathens.

George Orwell was truly a visionary of the corruption of power in a future time, because power was also corrupt in his time. Kissinger stated “power is greater than sex.” 1984 was happening before 1984 in a less technical sense. Nixon employed the entire intelligence community to spy on the democrats and journalists(liberal back then) to ensure his re-election. J.Edgar Hoover’s FBI spied on prominent citizens like Martin Luther King Jr. with hidden microphones. He spied on journalists, and on the Kennedy Brothers, (John and Robert). Why? At the time, he was gay and a cross dresser, paranoid of a scandal that would destroy his lifetime appointment as the director of the FBI. Reagan made a deal with the Iranians to hold the American hostages until after the election, to insure Carter’s defeat.

In today’s highly sophisticated advancement in surveillance technology, the same reasons apply.
Innovations can be turned into weapons of intention. The police to track down criminals or to hide their own cop gone bad mentality. The government to study the electorate to insure elections. Large corporations spy on their customer base as a new form of electronic focus groups to maximize profits. Cell phones can be used to track people and their conversations even if the phone is switched off. The latest models have been implanted with gps devices. On the internet all one’s movements are tracked with one’s ip address. Getting rid of the ip is almost impossible unless one has the technical savvy of the brilliant.

Technical invention and evolving sophistication bites both ways. It can be a marvel of communication for the betterment of mankind or in the hands of unscrupulous power mongers a dark reality that not even Orwell could have foreseen. In the future, tracking of one’s thoughts from satellites is not an impossibility, because of the extensive research to understand the brain and to duplicate its brain mapping in totality in the foreseeable future. From my own experience, I have learned that research done in secret, may not hit the commercial market for 10 years. Other research remains hidden and out of the public perception. If you are a creative idea man, you can become a target of the shady who wish to exploit you and is easily done in today’s interconnected world.

i like these references to the Matrix, a damn good movie.

and quite true, the war on ‘terrorism’ like the ‘war on drugs’ is all phony and just used by the Elites to keep the people in a state of fear, much easier to manipulate people that way if they are in a semi-state of anxiety, and that leads to a lack of consciousness and self-awareness, somewhat similar to being part of/in the Matrix.

i used to live in DE, and this judge’s ruling is so right on, that’s an invasion of privacy of a high degree, and search without warrant

All that trouble over a POT dealer? Please legalize it and save this kind of surveillance for child sexual offenders.

Finally a judge with some sense. The federal appeals court’s judges that allowed this are traitors to the Bill of Rights and should be impeached and imprisoned for their actions. Too often these judges are allowed to step all over our Rights and the Bush/Obama government is too happy to sit with their thumbs up their behinds and do nothing about it. Tell me, who is more dangerous to this country, the terrorists or those that would destroy the ideals that this country was founded on?

Unfortunately, my story is much more complicated than that but I won’t go into it. However, I had my first encounter with the monster back in the late 90s, going thru a divorce. There’s nothing like the unfairness & inhumanity of the [in]justice system to wake the fuck up of anybody. Still, I continued to struggle not being able to place what I thought I felt until one day in 2003 when, on my way home from work, I happened to catch DemocracyNow! while switching thru radio channels. Amy was discussing the Abu Gharib scandal and I said to myself “Ah, hah! So it’s not me after all. It IS happening!” I credit Amy Goodman and DemocracyNow! with my awakening. They gave me my “ah, hah” moment and I just took it from there. Not that I feel better but at least now, I know why and how.

You do realize that it’s not just the “terrorism” or the “war on drugs” it’s the entire society. It’s everything. Perception has been manipulated by propaganda to hide the real ugliness of Empire. Remember that, before the “War of Terror” and the “War of Drugs” there was the “Cold War” and before that there was “WWII” and before that, it was the blacks and before that it was the Indians. That’s the damn problem with this country. There’s always a Boogie Man, there’s always a group to heat and fear. There’s always a country that needs invading and people that need killing. This society thrives in violence and bloodshed. They need that to survive and feel superior and exceptional. It’s in their genetic make up. And it’s all that that the “Matrix” hides.

It’s becoming increasingly easy to predict the outcome of things. Just like when you enter a casino, you know you’re gonna lose and the house is gonna win. Same here. Look at this from today’s NYT, in case there are any doubts. Still, all the shysters complain about Cuomo:

Rattner to Pay $10 Million in Settlement With Cuomo

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2010/12/30/rattner-settles-with-cuomo/?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=tha2#preview

Which one is he talking about.

Which one is he talking about.

Well the specifics of this case involve possession of one of the most dangerous substances in the solar system, MARIJUANA. Now if the same technology could be used to track THE MONEY that has been stolen by the banks and is languishing in some vast Bahamian vault, then I would say that these Orwellian measures should be used 24/7. Bankers should be the first members of our society to have the new chip implants installed in their worthless hides. I think George would approve.

No. I get that. But I think the Supremes should be made to take a stand one way or the other. What is there left to lose?

No. I get that. But I think the Supremes should be made to take a stand one way or the other. What is there left to lose?

Well, eff your avatar too!. Now we’re even.

What is there left to lose? Hey, never ask that question. You really don’t want to find out what we’ve got to lose and how.

Prosecutors were forced to drop marijuana trafficking charges as a result.
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HAHAHAHA! Serves you tools right for violating someone’s civil liberties. Someone must have taken this judge’s kool aide supply and he woke up finally.

Prosecutors were forced to drop marijuana trafficking charges as a result.
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HAHAHAHA! Serves you tools right for violating someone’s civil liberties. Someone must have taken this judge’s kool aide supply and he woke up finally.

Prosecutors were forced to drop marijuana trafficking charges as a result.
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HAHAHAHA! Serves you tools right for violating someone’s civil liberties. Someone must have taken this judge’s kool aide supply and he woke up finally.

That’s frakking awesome, thanks for the links…

That’s frakking awesome, thanks for the links…

That’s frakking awesome, thanks for the links…

The Orwellian state is already here. The level of surveillance in this country would make the Stasi jealous. Oh wait, der Homeland security hired Marcus Wolf former head of the East German Stasi. Anyone awake yet?

The Orwellian state started with drug testing in Reagan’s War on Drugs in the mid-1980s. How many times must we say it; the move toward a corporate fascist state began with Reagan in 1980 and it has continued unabated since then with brief interruptions by judges. Anyone who thinks the Supreme Court will rule for civil liberties over state/corporate power is delusional. America is over….no more Bill of Rights.

2000 was 1984. America has been stolen, and we’ll never get it back. “You’re welcome, America.” (GWB)

He also said (to Polish TV), “We found WMDs.”

Judicial restraints on unreasonable searches and seizures by the Executive have certainly been weak overall since 9/11. However, they have also been erratic. I am actually unpersuaded that the GPS tracking technique is really more invasive than ordinary police “tailing”. Note, for example, that while GPS can reveal that a car is parked near a strip club, it cannot reveal, as a police tail could, whether the driver went in there. The real problem in this specific case, in my view, was not that GPS was used for 20 days but that even after all that time the information obtained was, (unsurprisingly), insufficient to justify a further search.

“The Orwellian State” is alive and well and living and thriving in what was once the free country of America. Big Brother is here to stay so watch your step sheeple.

“The Orwellian State” is alive and well and living and thriving in what was once the free country of America. Big Brother is here to stay so watch your step sheeple.

Our own Big Brother government has all the power because the people let it happen in the name of equality, social justice, freedom, you name it.

No tyrant ever comes to power by saying he wants more power. Instead, he promises that he’ll take care of us with other people’s money.

Now he has everything he needs to oppress us more than Soviet Russia ever could.

“Never give to your friend any power that your enemy may one day inherit.” Words to live by for the zealous pol.

Another curious coincidence — my aha! moment was hearing the interview with Stephen Kinzer about his new book All the Shah’s Men: An American Coup and the Roots of Middle East Terror, as he was on the radio show of another Jewish girl, Terri Gross. You can still hear the interview here at Fresh Air.

Amy had him on for a whole hour when his later book Overthrow: America’s Century of Regime Change from Hawaii to Iraq came out. Kinzer is a giant of conscience, and a rebuke to the fat pampered plunder-dogs we call the American public, sitting around watching utter drivel while fattening themselves on the backbreaking labor of campesinos in Latin America, including child labor. Here I am with a cup of coffee in front of me — I’m a total addict — ashamed of myself because I can’t properly compensate six and twelve-year-olds in Honduras who pick the stuff for $12 a week — Honduras where Mel Zelaya was overthrown there with the complicity of Obama’s/Clinton’s State Department (in spite of their nice words) for the crime of raising the minimum wage, the same crime that got Aristide kidnapped from Haiti by US Marines and dumped in the Central African Republic.

Hey, don’t ferget those Yellow Cake Peddlers too….

I’m not familiar with either of them. I’m stilling going thru the learning curb but do religiously listen to DemocracyNow! and Amy has all the good ones on. That’s how I pick up most of the stuff.

I usually tell my kid that the ‘awakening’ can only come as a result of a social injustice that predisposes you to be more open minded towards the truth. As I said, I credit mine to the divorce. I was a flag-waving idiot. And a self-brainwashed one too which is the worst part. Having spent my entire life under the maddening totalitarian rule of Communism, I convinced myself that if the Communists hated Capitalism and the US, it had to be good. Ha ha! What a way of punking yourself, eh? I can’t blame anybody but myself for it.

“before that it was the Indians”

Amen brother. Even my otherwise hero, Thomas Jefferson, is condemned by a careful reading of history. His famous quote from the Declaration of Independence,

"He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions." referring to George III, the Emanuel Goldstein of our earliest Two Minutes of Hate.

But not so fast, says Anthony Hall, professor of Globalization Studies at the University of Lethbridge, Alberta, in his books Earth into Property: Colonization, Decolonization, and Capitalism: The Bowl with One Spoon (Mcgill-Queen’s Native and Northern Series).

Ever heard of the Royal Proclamation of 1763? (Me neither — I doubt you’d find one American in 1000 that knows what it is.) It’s still in force, in Canada, to the better treatment of the Native Peoples than here by far. From the Amazon page, a review says:

The Royal Proclamation of 1763, which offered a qualified recognition of Aboriginal and treaty rights, infuriated many Anglo-American colonists.Hall goes so far as to say it was this ruling, and not the Tea Tax, that caused the Founding Fathers to bolt from the shadow of London. They had no intention of honoring the prior occupancy of the Native Peoples on this nice new land, any more than ben Gurion did in 1948.

Tony Hall gives an awesome interview to Sibel Edmonds and Peter B. Collins at her website Boiling Frogs.

9/11.

The lie that just keeps on giving.

You know, all of the hatemongering should clue in people of what’s going on. Naaaw…that means they have to think and in Amerikkka that hurts.

You like and quote Jefferson? Hmmm…now I’m worried about you. You know that he’s become the beacon of the Teabaggers, right? Scary shit! He must be rolling in his grave. Every time I hear one quoting Jefferson (usually completely missing the point and twisting it around to fit their agenda of ignorance and hatred) I say to myself, “I wonder what Jefferson would say if he heard this yoyos using him that way”

PS: That first quote is utterly shameful!

“if the Communists hated Capitalism and the US, it had to be good.”

Well, it’s perfectly understandable and reasonable. Lenin’s ideas about Monopoly were quite accurate — Capitalism is lying when it says it likes competition. Nothing of the sort: it always gravitates toward Monopoly.

But Stalin was only for himself. Anywhere you find power, you find corruption of ideals. But it’s complicated.

I’m sure many of the complaints about Castro’s regime are justified, in the experience of people from that island. On the other hand, the dictatorship of Fulgencio Batista, a paradise for Mafia and CIA heroin racketeers and casino operators, handed to Lucky Luciano on a silver platter by Naval Intelligence in exchange for help landing in Sicily prior to the invasion of Italy — these were outrages against the common people of Cuba, and they reasonably gravitated to Castro, at least in the beginning. Since then, over a hundred assassination attempts against him have failed (can you believe it?) because he is too clever, and he doesn’t take any chances. No doubt his caution has cost the people down there a loss of freedom to some extent. But far more cost has been the petulant refusal of the US to stop the sanctions, which Europeans abandoned long ago.

Have you seen this fascinating discussion with Castro by Michel Chossudovsky of Global Research in Canada, Conversations with Fidel Castro: The Dangers of a Nuclear War? I highly recommend it.

Where did you come from, by the way, if you don’t mind my asking?

Oh, and the expression is “learning curve”, as in a graph.

“if the Communists hated Capitalism and the US, it had to be good.”

Well, it’s perfectly understandable and reasonable. Lenin’s ideas about Monopoly were quite accurate — Capitalism is lying when it says it likes competition. Nothing of the sort: it always gravitates toward Monopoly.

But Stalin was only for himself. Anywhere you find power, you find corruption of ideals. But it’s complicated.

I’m sure many of the complaints about Castro’s regime are justified, in the experience of people from that island. On the other hand, the dictatorship of Fulgencio Batista, a paradise for Mafia and CIA heroin racketeers and casino operators, handed to Lucky Luciano on a silver platter by Naval Intelligence in exchange for help landing in Sicily prior to the invasion of Italy — these were outrages against the common people of Cuba, and they reasonably gravitated to Castro, at least in the beginning. Since then, over a hundred assassination attempts against him have failed (can you believe it?) because he is too clever, and he doesn’t take any chances. No doubt his caution has cost the people down there a loss of freedom to some extent. But far more cost has been the petulant refusal of the US to stop the sanctions, which Europeans abandoned long ago.

Have you seen this fascinating discussion with Castro by Michel Chossudovsky of Global Research in Canada, Conversations with Fidel Castro: The Dangers of a Nuclear War? I highly recommend it.

Where did you come from, by the way, if you don’t mind my asking?

Oh, and the expression is “learning curve”, as in a graph.

“if the Communists hated Capitalism and the US, it had to be good.”

Well, it’s perfectly understandable and reasonable. Lenin’s ideas about Monopoly were quite accurate — Capitalism is lying when it says it likes competition. Nothing of the sort: it always gravitates toward Monopoly.

But Stalin was only for himself. Anywhere you find power, you find corruption of ideals. But it’s complicated.

I’m sure many of the complaints about Castro’s regime are justified, in the experience of people from that island. On the other hand, the dictatorship of Fulgencio Batista, a paradise for Mafia and CIA heroin racketeers and casino operators, handed to Lucky Luciano on a silver platter by Naval Intelligence in exchange for help landing in Sicily prior to the invasion of Italy — these were outrages against the common people of Cuba, and they reasonably gravitated to Castro, at least in the beginning. Since then, over a hundred assassination attempts against him have failed (can you believe it?) because he is too clever, and he doesn’t take any chances. No doubt his caution has cost the people down there a loss of freedom to some extent. But far more cost has been the petulant refusal of the US to stop the sanctions, which Europeans abandoned long ago.

Have you seen this fascinating discussion with Castro by Michel Chossudovsky of Global Research in Canada, Conversations with Fidel Castro: The Dangers of a Nuclear War? I highly recommend it.

Where did you come from, by the way, if you don’t mind my asking?

Oh, and the expression is “learning curve”, as in a graph.

“if the Communists hated Capitalism and the US, it had to be good.”

Well, it’s perfectly understandable and reasonable. Lenin’s ideas about Monopoly were quite accurate — Capitalism is lying when it says it likes competition. Nothing of the sort: it always gravitates toward Monopoly.

But Stalin was only for himself. Anywhere you find power, you find corruption of ideals. But it’s complicated.

I’m sure many of the complaints about Castro’s regime are justified, in the experience of people from that island. On the other hand, the dictatorship of Fulgencio Batista, a paradise for Mafia and CIA heroin racketeers and casino operators, handed to Lucky Luciano on a silver platter by Naval Intelligence in exchange for help landing in Sicily prior to the invasion of Italy — these were outrages against the common people of Cuba, and they reasonably gravitated to Castro, at least in the beginning. Since then, over a hundred assassination attempts against him have failed (can you believe it?) because he is too clever, and he doesn’t take any chances. No doubt his caution has cost the people down there a loss of freedom to some extent. But far more cost has been the petulant refusal of the US to stop the sanctions, which Europeans abandoned long ago.

Have you seen this fascinating discussion with Castro by Michel Chossudovsky of Global Research in Canada, Conversations with Fidel Castro: The Dangers of a Nuclear War? I highly recommend it.

Where did you come from, by the way, if you don’t mind my asking?

Oh, and the expression is “learning curve”, as in a graph.

The Lie that keeps on giving and is Justified, Endorsed by the Racist Nazi, Anti American repuiblican right and the Anti American Terrorist SUPPORTING corporations.
If this doesn’t work we will kill some people to justify why it should so speeaks the Anti American republican and Brain Dead tea baggers.

If you’re an American, you’re screwed unless an overwhelming victory in congress and the white house by third party small government minded people…and a few failed CIA assassinations occurs. Other than that we’re screwed.

I still admire TJ, absolutely. The Teabaggers could quote the multiplication tables and still lie, that’s how deluded they are. He’s not to blame for their blindness. But he did have feet of clay. “All men are created equal” but he still had a child by his slave girl Sally Hemmings. And Hall’s case against the Founding Fathers for being land robbers is very strong. I’m reminded of the quote from Nietzche,

"Aus dem Grunde aller dieser vornehmen Rassen ist das Raubtier, die prachtvolle nach Beute und Sieg lüstern schweifende blonde Bestie nicht zu verkennen;"“That at the heart of all these lordly races” (the Teutons, Allemans, Goths, Visigoths, Vikings, &c. — all his heroes) “is the beast of prey, the splendid sweeping blond beast lusting for booty and conquest, should not be underestimated.”

Or, to quote John Lennon, “he’s the all-American bullet-headed Saxon mother’s son”

” PS: That first quote is utterly shameful!”

Given whose land it was, and how every one of our noble treaties has been abrogated by us, I have to agree, with my head hanging down.

You are people, therefore you need policing, thats what the police do – they protect and serve you… writs and court orders, you are the problem. We the government are the righteous, you are all criminals and if not now, then later!

BRAVO!! Judge Jan R. Jurden

I would ask, before you answer any of my comments, please refresh the page, because I edit them to death!

You’re a little late, judgiepoo.
Orwell predicted this in 1948, and his prediction is a done deal.
War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength

Oh, don’t worry. I leave the site and get notified by e-mail so I refresh continuosly

Oh, don’t worry. I leave the site and get notified by e-mail so I refresh continuosly

Oh, don’t worry. I leave the site and get notified by e-mail so I refresh continuosly

Every time I see a pick up with a bumper sticker quoting Jefferson, I know who I’m dealing with. Shame indeed. And that is a brilliant quote!

PS: I’m sure you’ve heard that Obama wants to give Amerikkka to them now…

Every time I see a pick up with a bumper sticker quoting Jefferson, I know who I’m dealing with. Shame indeed. And that is a brilliant quote!

PS: I’m sure you’ve heard that Obama wants to give Amerikkka to them now…

Every time I see a pick up with a bumper sticker quoting Jefferson, I know who I’m dealing with. Shame indeed. And that is a brilliant quote!

PS: I’m sure you’ve heard that Obama wants to give Amerikkka to them now…

So, what’s the chances of getting you to tell me your country of origin?

So, what’s the chances of getting you to tell me your country of origin?

So, what’s the chances of getting you to tell me your country of origin?

…On the other hand, the dictatorship of Fulgencio Batista, a paradise for Mafia and CIA heroin racketeers and ….

See, this is where y’all get lost. While all of that is true, nobody ever stops to consider that Fidel betrayed us and that he became, in his own rite, the very same thing he fought against. Nobody knows what we’ve gone thru and nobody cares to know either. For 20+ years the Island was shut down to the world and only we know what went on during those years. Much like the Israelis and the USans, the history of that period has been officially revised so it doesn’t include the firing squads, the night raids, the torture, the incarcerations for anything and everything, the pain, the suffering, the hate, the paranoia, the repression, the fear, the wars. Yes! The wars, from Viet Nam to Libya, our kids did it all. And when we mention this, we’re labeled as hateful and whackjobs and we’re told of how wonderful it all is because “we’ve got free healthcare and education” – Ha ha! Yeah, even if we ain’t got anything else and even if that ain’t what it seems.

Nothing ever changed for us, the people. In fact, things got worse. During Batista, there was always a glimmer of hope and if you stayed out of politics, you were safe. Under Fidel, there was never any hope and if you didn’t get involved in politics, that’s when you’d end up in the slammer for the rest of your life, just like my old man. But nobody wants to know about this. It’s not their problem, besides, it taints their idea of Castro, the liberator and threatens their image of the little country giving the middle finger to the Empire. Ha ha! While in secret, begging to be in the arms of the Empire. But y’all don’t know any of that and don’t want to hear it either.

I don’t watch, listen or read anything with the guy. I was forced to read, listen & watch him for hours on end, standing in the heat and the sun for decades. So, noooooooo! Thank you! And it’s all lies anyway. The guy is very much like Obama, very charismatic but a pathological liar of sorts.

…On the other hand, the dictatorship of Fulgencio Batista, a paradise for Mafia and CIA heroin racketeers and ….

See, this is where y’all get lost. While all of that is true, nobody ever stops to consider that Fidel betrayed us and that he became, in his own rite, the very same thing he fought against. Nobody knows what we’ve gone thru and nobody cares to know either. For 20+ years the Island was shut down to the world and only we know what went on during those years. Much like the Israelis and the USans, the history of that period has been officially revised so it doesn’t include the firing squads, the night raids, the torture, the incarcerations for anything and everything, the pain, the suffering, the hate, the paranoia, the repression, the fear, the wars. Yes! The wars, from Viet Nam to Libya, our kids did it all. And when we mention this, we’re labeled as hateful and whackjobs and we’re told of how wonderful it all is because “we’ve got free healthcare and education” – Ha ha! Yeah, even if we ain’t got anything else and even if that ain’t what it seems.

Nothing ever changed for us, the people. In fact, things got worse. During Batista, there was always a glimmer of hope and if you stayed out of politics, you were safe. Under Fidel, there was never any hope and if you didn’t get involved in politics, that’s when you’d end up in the slammer for the rest of your life, just like my old man. But nobody wants to know about this. It’s not their problem, besides, it taints their idea of Castro, the liberator and threatens their image of the little country giving the middle finger to the Empire. Ha ha! While in secret, begging to be in the arms of the Empire. But y’all don’t know any of that and don’t want to hear it either.

I don’t watch, listen or read anything with the guy. I was forced to read, listen & watch him for hours on end, standing in the heat and the sun for decades. So, noooooooo! Thank you! And it’s all lies anyway. The guy is very much like Obama, very charismatic but a pathological liar of sorts.

…On the other hand, the dictatorship of Fulgencio Batista, a paradise for Mafia and CIA heroin racketeers and ….

See, this is where y’all get lost. While all of that is true, nobody ever stops to consider that Fidel betrayed us and that he became, in his own rite, the very same thing he fought against. Nobody knows what we’ve gone thru and nobody cares to know either. For 20+ years the Island was shut down to the world and only we know what went on during those years. Much like the Israelis and the USans, the history of that period has been officially revised so it doesn’t include the firing squads, the night raids, the torture, the incarcerations for anything and everything, the pain, the suffering, the hate, the paranoia, the repression, the fear, the wars. Yes! The wars, from Viet Nam to Libya, our kids did it all. And when we mention this, we’re labeled as hateful and whackjobs and we’re told of how wonderful it all is because “we’ve got free healthcare and education” – Ha ha! Yeah, even if we ain’t got anything else and even if that ain’t what it seems.

Nothing ever changed for us, the people. In fact, things got worse. During Batista, there was always a glimmer of hope and if you stayed out of politics, you were safe. Under Fidel, there was never any hope and if you didn’t get involved in politics, that’s when you’d end up in the slammer for the rest of your life, just like my old man. But nobody wants to know about this. It’s not their problem, besides, it taints their idea of Castro, the liberator and threatens their image of the little country giving the middle finger to the Empire. Ha ha! While in secret, begging to be in the arms of the Empire. But y’all don’t know any of that and don’t want to hear it either.

I don’t watch, listen or read anything with the guy. I was forced to read, listen & watch him for hours on end, standing in the heat and the sun for decades. So, noooooooo! Thank you! And it’s all lies anyway. The guy is very much like Obama, very charismatic but a pathological liar of sorts.

The United States of America now treats it’s citizens like they are Iraqis, Afghanis, or Pakistanis.

Placing tracking devices on cars without telling people is what the United States military does in those countries. Then they fire a drone missile at the car with the GPS tracker.

The United States of America is being militarized by the “Homeland Security/Pork Barrel Act” training those military people are giving the police.

In about 5 years, maybe 10, the United States of America is going to be like Israel, Egypt, Russia, or China. A Thug-ocracy. I never thought I would see that in my life time.

And to think I used to complain about how America was………..

Are you listening, Mr. President? Government should be open. People may remain private. This judge is telling you, in effect, that you have it backward.

Finally, a judge with a backbone and the ability to reason, thank you Judge Jan R. Jurden.

Mark my words. The current SCROTUM, uh, I mean SCOTUS , stacked with the right-wing zealots who decided the Citizens United ruling, will overturn Judge Jurden’s ruling. And take note of Judge Alex Kozinki’s obnoxious, unambiguous comment.

” But y’all don’t know any of that and don’t want to hear it either.”

No, I don’t know that stuff, but yes, I want to know it in the finest detail.

You went through the stumbling rocky trail of assuming that “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”, and have now realized it’s not so simple.

Consider that I like you merely come from where I come from, and am doing my best to cobble together a clearer view of reality.

So please understand, mi hermano, I earnestly desire to learn these secrets (secret from well-meaning but ignorant gringos like me) exactly so I can find any truth, if there is any truth anywhere. The post of yours last challenges me deeply, because I put Chossudovsky in very high regard. If his tête-à-tête with Castro is something deeply flawed, I need to know it. To hear these details from someone who is equally critical of the US policy makes it easier for me to integrate the atrocities you cite into my thinking.

Does that make sense?

As nightfall does not come all at once, neither does oppression. In both instances, there is a twilight when everything remains seemingly unchanged.
And it is in such a twilight that we all must be aware of change in the air – however slight – lest we become the unwitting victims of the darkness.
–Justice William O. Douglas

Ten Steps to Fascism

1. Invoke an External and Internal Threat

2. Establish Secret Prisons

3. Develop a Paramilitary Force

4. Surveil Ordinary Citizens

5. Infiltrate Citizen’s Groups

6. Arbitrarily Detain and Release Citizens

7. Target Key Individuals

8. Restrict the Press

9. Cast Criticism as “Espionage”
and Dissent as “Treason”

10. Subvert the Rule of Law

If only we would all abandon the Rep./Dem. false paradigm arena, we could start seeing who is really behind this “Orwellian state”.

They are practicing “divide and conquer”, keeping us at each others throats rather than at theirs!

AWAKEN EVERYONE!

HomeLand Security has just put the judge on their “Pre-terrorist activity” list.

No, he’s not listening. He’s doing it.

Thats why I see 9/11 as a “mega ritual” so to speak.

The actual physical impact had relatively speaking, little physical effect. Yet the repercussions show the how awesome its power of manipulation and construction of the future was.

With the power of real hardcore sorcery, they achieved this. This is the magic of social engineering by the elite and their chaotic yet deliberate hand.

ou went through the stumbling rocky trail of assuming that “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”, and have now realized it’s not so simple.

Ha ha! Ouch! Yes. :(

Now, you understand that y’all (and I realize that I’m lumping you in with a group of whackjobs that have done exactly the same thing I did, only in reverse. They assume that because Castro is the sworn enemy of the empire [if only in word] he must be a great guy and a hero, a liberator and blah blah blah when, in reality, he’s just a petty tyrant, blood dripping down his hands and all). So, please, don’t get offended, I’m generalizing but it’s not intended as an insult or to harm.

Well, ask me what “secrets” you want to know and I’ll tell ya. Only they’re really not secret, we’ve been screaming for 52 years (in a few hours) but nobody wants to listen to us. In a way, we’re a lot like the Palestinians, minus the bombs.

Again, I don’t read/listen to anything the guy says or writes because I know it’s all lies. Also, it all brings back very bad memories. Very painful ones that I’ve been trying to forget for too many years. However, I will tell you from experience that the guy is a brilliant – and I mean that in all the sense of the word – brilliant orator. My Dad met him once and told me that he guy is capable of mass hypnosis (those were the words he used). He says that when he walked into the room, everybody else disappeared, his presence was was so overwhelming. He is also (or at least was) a very big guy, too, you know? About 6’4″ and well fed, unlike his people.

Oh, it’s no great mystery. Everybody here knows I’m the resident Cuban. And, yes, I hate Castro. And, NO! I am not from Miami. (Thank gawd!)

With men like this I’m PROUD to be AMERICAN!

Do you mean male pages being raped by our congress critters?

Actually, I think it is mostly in the name of security that the people are tricked into surrendering their freedoms and their rights.

Actually, I think it is mostly in the name of security that the people are tricked into surrendering their freedoms and their rights.

Women, actually.

Women, actually.

Well, I have to take these things into account, if I want to be a realist and truth-minded.

You know, don’t you, that Hugo Chavez is his biggest booster, and that Amy Goodman is Chavez’s biggest booster?

How does that shake out for you, being a fan of Amy? Is she fooled? Or maybe fooling?

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You must realize that this upsets my applecart somewhat. I can’t live in every place or in every time. I try to learn the truth. Everywhere I turn I discover I’ve been subjected to the most complex elaborate tapestry of lies imaginable. Then when it seems I’ve got it sussed, here comes another cannonball of contradictions in the stomach. Oy!

Now, of course, I knew that at least some of the horror stories from Castro’s Cuba had to be real. But after I realized the US side was horrible too, I was at great pains to know what was what.

At this point, it’s sort of a matter of degree. Are there any redeeming factors for that system? Is Chavez just as bad? I don’t have the time or money or nine lives to go to all these places and investigate. If I did, would I be scammed with baloney, and come back dumber than I already am?

It’s very frustrating. So any insight you can give me will be treasured, Señor Johnny —

Well, I have to take these things into account, if I want to be a realist and truth-minded.

You know, don’t you, that Hugo Chavez is his biggest booster, and that Amy Goodman is Chavez’s biggest booster?

How does that shake out for you, being a fan of Amy? Is she fooled? Or maybe fooling?

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41 minutes later
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You must realize that this upsets my applecart somewhat. I can’t live in every place or in every time. I try to learn the truth. Everywhere I turn I discover I’ve been subjected to the most complex elaborate tapestry of lies imaginable. Then when it seems I’ve got it sussed, here comes another cannonball of contradictions in the stomach. Oy!

Now, of course, I knew that at least some of the horror stories from Castro’s Cuba had to be real. But after I realized the US side was horrible too, I was at great pains to know what was what.

At this point, it’s sort of a matter of degree. Are there any redeeming factors for that system? Is Chavez just as bad? I don’t have the time or money or nine lives to go to all these places and investigate. If I did, would I be scammed with baloney, and come back dumber than I already am?

It’s very frustrating. So any insight you can give me will be treasured, Señor Johnny —

Woot! My dark master will be so proud!!!

Woot! My dark master will be so proud!!!

Well, a strange cabal of masculine women.

Well, a strange cabal of masculine women.

Everyone gets excited about this nonsense of a “judge” standing up for civil liberties. All nonsense while Wall Street and the Banksters have been stealing for years from the middle class. Fraudulent mortgages, fraudulent foreclosures, pension funds losing billions in the cds, cdo , etc game. Many law suits and I have yet to see anyone of substance go to jail.
It is all a BS game people. They publicize this nonsense so you think the system is legit.

Everyone gets excited about this nonsense of a “judge” standing up for civil liberties. All nonsense while Wall Street and the Banksters have been stealing for years from the middle class. Fraudulent mortgages, fraudulent foreclosures, pension funds losing billions in the cds, cdo , etc game. Many law suits and I have yet to see anyone of substance go to jail.
It is all a BS game people. They publicize this nonsense so you think the system is legit.

Sounds like we have four or five of these covered already.

Sounds like we have four or five of these covered already.

Amy is a human being, I’m sure she’s not perfect. As for Hugo, you understand I’m scarred by what I went thru. During my Cuban ordeal I learned to hate/reject/distrust anything or anyone that was associated with the status quo. It’s been a long time, I’ve forgotten many things and some of the fear and bad feelings have subsided (most of them are being revived now by everything that is happening here as I see it as a mere repetition of what I went thru). In that spirit, I initially embraced Hugo and cheered much for him, setting aside my old rife with the Communist regime of Cuba. I believe now that I was wrong in giving the guy a chance if you will and that my initial gut feeling of mistrust was better founded. Lately, I’ve been battling a brigade of these pseudo-Communists over at The Independent where I’ve – quite by accident – teamed up with other Cubans, very young ones at that, and not only are they saying exactly the same thing I’m saying but it’s brought all the bad things back so they’re fresh in my memory again. There are also some leaked cables that show the relationship between him and Fidel as being quite draconian as my gut feeling should have told me had I not let down my guard. But the final touch is what I’ve heard thru a friend of mine whose opinion & judgment I trust more than my own. This is a young peace activist who spent the last couple of years of her life in Gaza, helping the Palestinians, she even lived thru the strikes in 2008-09 if that tells you anything about her character. It’s a long story with her but she ended up marrying a Palestinian fellow and leaving Gaza together. Venezuela was the only country that would offer them refuge. I have many long e-mails from her detailing the conditions in Venezuela and all I can tell you is, not good!

To summarize my long rant and answer your question, how do I feel about Amy and Hugo, I have no doubts she’s schmoozed and bamboozled. These characters can hide the most hideous of things. It can’t be held against her, she’s coming from a different place and that is unchartered territory for her. Only those of us that have lived thru it know what to look for. Look at Michael Moore, he was royally punked by Castro. It happens! He will do something one day that will make her see the light. She’s smart.

Hey, if you’d like, you can e-mail me. It’ll be easier and more private. Try me at kaborka666 at yahoo dot com (I’m spelling it so it can’t be picked up for spam mail). I’ll share some of my friend’s e-mails about Cuba and Venezuela with you.

The Orwellian state started with Reagan, and has gone on steroids with each subsequent president, bent on kissing multi-national corporations and screwing Americans.

It really started when they killed Kennedy.

see you there

Word… one positive story in a tidal wave of injustices against the american people.f

I think we both might be on it for speaking out against E Berlin… I mean the USA.

The Feds have accomplished the greatest power grab in US history since 9/11 while the citizenry works dawn to dusk just to keeps their heads above water leaving little time to keep an eye on what government is doing let alone having the energy to stop our rights from getting steamrolled.

No shit man, we get a blue one, we get a red one, they argue and debate yet the policies are very similar, never ending war, indefinite detention, torture, wallstreet bail outs, and domestic spying.

More like 10 of the 10 lol but don’t worry the manchurian candidate Obama cares so much about us its all about keeping us safe. pffffffft!

Dont worry he is going to close Guantanamo …. errr I mean end occupation in Iraq….errrr I mean wait, umm at least he post every bill online for us to read before it goes into law… well at least he ended the Bush tax cuts for the rich…SHIT nvm.

Yep. Exactly. Meanwhile members of each party blame the other whereas they are both (for the most part) puppets to industry.

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It had its beginnings in modern times on December 23, 1913 when the Federal Reserve Act was passed, allowing for a private bank to control the money supply in the United States. Since then, the centralization of power has become more and more apparent and bold.

NEW PHOENIX COINTELPRO

I THINK THE PENTAGON OR SOMEONE IS PAYING PEOPLE TO PUT OUT BOGUS STORIES ABOUT COINTELPRO BEING IN THE PAST, COINTELPRO IS VERY MUCH ALIVE TODAY, IN FACT IT IS TEN TIMES WORSE AND TEN TIMES MORE DESTRUCTIVE. NOW THEY HAVE THE MILITARY AND INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES VERY MUCH INVOLVED USING MILITARY SATELLITES TO TRACK AND MONITOR A PERSONS EVERY MOVE YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO PRIVACY WHATSOEVER, THEY EVEN WATCH ME IN MY BEDROOM, THEY ARE SICK PIGS AND NEED TO BE EXPOSED NOW. ALL MY COMMUNICATIONS ARE MONITORED WITH ABSOLUTELY NO TRIAL, JURY OR JUDGE, THEY DO WHATEVER THEY WANT. I’M GANG STALKED AND TEERRORIZED DAILY, TRACKED AND HARASSED BY THE POLICE WITH SATELLITES. THEY GET TO MY EMPLOYERS, NEIGHBORS, DOCTORS, ANYONE WHO CAN HELP ME. AND THEN THEY USE DIRECTED ENERGY WEAPONS TO POISON ME AND BRING MORE TEERROR INTO MY LIFE. THIS IS AMERICA QUIT THE PAST GARBAGE! JUST WATCH MY VIDEOS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1jW1QxGybU

WE NEED NULLIFICATION NOW TO REGAIN OUR COUNTRY FROM THESE TYRANNICAL FREAKS WHO HAVE TAKEN OVER AMERICA AND WANT TO USHER IN THEIR ILLUMINATI NWO INSANITY. I NEED HELP! IF ANYBODY GIVES A DAMN IN THIS WORLD. I’M WRITING A BOOK ABOUT THIS INSANITY IF ANY TI’s KNOW OF ANY PERPS WHO WOULD LIKE TO GIVE ME INFORMATION OR TI’s THEMSELVES PLEASE CONTACT ME, WE MUST EXPOSE THEM! I MAY HAVE EVEN BEEN SECRETLY MICRO-CHIPPED AGAINST MY WILL. YOU ARE ALL GREAT AT WRITING ABOUT THE PROBLEM BUT I DON’T SEE ANYONE DOING ANYTHING ABOUT THIS HOLOCAUST.

http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=131896;title=APFN

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9b_wDTUxgg

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/u-s-silently-tortures-americans-cell-tower-microwaves

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/rule-law-morality-die-usa-fusion-center-slow-kill-genocide
THIS IS MY EXACT SAME NIGHTMARE!!

KEVIN CANADA

PLEASE CONTACT ME IF YOU CAN HELP ME I DON’T KNOW WHERE TO TURN.

631 419-6132 Hm or 631 778-5024 Msg
kcanada@safe-mail.net

http://www.youtube.com/user/kcraigdc MY COINTELPRO VIDEOS

the pioneers moved west to get away from the “Banksters” and the cry was “NEVER HAVING TO
SAY “SIR” TO NO ONE” where do we go now? what will be the motivation to stay FREE from the
Banksters in the “NEW WORLD ORDER”

the pioneers moved west to get away from the “Banksters” and the cry was “NEVER HAVING TO
SAY “SIR” TO NO ONE” where do we go now? what will be the motivation to stay FREE from the
Banksters in the “NEW WORLD ORDER”

the pioneers moved west to get away from the “Banksters” and the cry was “NEVER HAVING TO
SAY “SIR” TO NO ONE” where do we go now? what will be the motivation to stay FREE from the
Banksters in the “NEW WORLD ORDER”

Yeah but you have to admit she has balls!

Yeah but you have to admit she has balls!

Yeah but you have to admit she has balls!

I had hope until I saw the last sentence of this article.

“That ruling is expected to be appealed to the Supreme Court.”

We are fucked.

I had hope until I saw the last sentence of this article.

“That ruling is expected to be appealed to the Supreme Court.”

We are fucked.

I had hope until I saw the last sentence of this article.

“That ruling is expected to be appealed to the Supreme Court.”

We are fucked.

its not really a positive story if you read all the way to the last sentence.

its not really a positive story if you read all the way to the last sentence.

its not really a positive story if you read all the way to the last sentence.

Judge Jan is on the list now. She won’t be a judge for long.

You know what your words are very similar to a certain German creep who used Soviet Russia as an excuse to kill millions………..the extreme right is Fascist! You really want to go there?

Nice!

…and that’s the bottom line. We’re fucked.

If the government CAN abuse power, it WILL abuse power.

We already have an “Orwellian state”. The NSA (and prolly the Mossad) have the ability to intercept and filter all IP packets in the USA. Our cellular phones include the ability to track them via e911 services mandated by law. That the government can and does purchase this data without warrant is documented in several (dismissed for national security) law suits.

I’m glad someone finally stood up to a tiny bit of it. Most likely he’s to head for Room 101 pretty soon though, and he at least sacrificed any chance of promotion up the court system.

We already have an “Orwellian state”. The NSA (and prolly the Mossad) have the ability to intercept and filter all IP packets in the USA. Our cellular phones include the ability to track them via e911 services mandated by law. That the government can and does purchase this data without warrant is documented in several (dismissed for national security) law suits.

I’m glad someone finally stood up to a tiny bit of it. Most likely he’s to head for Room 101 pretty soon though, and he at least sacrificed any chance of promotion up the court system.

Next time you take a shit, check to see if you dropped a GPS device. This is utter insanity. Twenty days to catch the guy doing something?

Next time you take a shit, check to see if you dropped a GPS device. This is utter insanity. Twenty days to catch the guy doing something?

Yes, exactly.
And the far right corporate and very fascist majority of the Roberts court, the most pathetic and disgusting SCOTUS in American history, will back them up.

We were fucked quite a while ago, after Bush vs Gore America has been in a rapid decent into a fascist corporate Christian state thanks to the Theocon scumbags. Before that disgusting chapter of judicial overreach we had the cold warriors screwing us over, after all they murdered Kennedy and let loose the MIC in Southeast Asia.

Yes, exactly.
And the far right corporate and very fascist majority of the Roberts court, the most pathetic and disgusting SCOTUS in American history, will back them up.

We were fucked quite a while ago, after Bush vs Gore America has been in a rapid decent into a fascist corporate Christian state thanks to the Theocon scumbags. Before that disgusting chapter of judicial overreach we had the cold warriors screwing us over, after all they murdered Kennedy and let loose the MIC in Southeast Asia.

Yes, if you can’t smell the awful stench of the plutocracy you’ve got pretty big problems.
Just listen to the tea bagger morons for endless examples of that very ignorance.

Yes, if you can’t smell the awful stench of the plutocracy you’ve got pretty big problems.
Just listen to the tea bagger morons for endless examples of that very ignorance.

HAR !!!

I knew you were more than a pretty face.

Could Anonymous be the group of proles that blows the Party to pieces?

I think an opinion poll would show most Americans prefer an Orwellian state. Today’s Americans are more fascist than ever. Mussolini defined fascism as the merger of the corporations with the government. This merger has happened and is widely supported. Add the Orwellian nature of law enforcement and PRESTO, we have a fascist America.

Nice is dirty word. At 1:23:10 of the video.

Yes and no. I want it all on the table so I know what I am up against.
That is the premise behind Wikileaks. This information tsunami may not deliver results on their own but they do provide the unvarnished truth. The rest is up to us.

I just spent several hours on youtube looking at videos of Cuba & reading comments and, its’ all coming back to me and, brother, you can lose things you didn’t even know you had. One of the things that hit me hard was los Comite de Defensa de la Revolucion. These are neighborhood watches made up of old busy buddies who would snitch on you just because they didn’t like the clothes you wore. They were at it 24/7, watching, watching, watching. All it took was for one of them to go to the cops with any kind of story and you were done. You know those “credible leads” that Homeland Insecurity is doing now? Well, there you have it! People – nay, the riff raf empowered to legally engage in vigilantism. That for starters. As it comes along, I can let you know how it all transpires.

Nixon employed the entire intelligence community to spy on the democrats and journalists(liberal back then) to ensure his re-election.

Exactly what were the Watergate burglers after? E. Howard Hunt demanded, and received, $1 million from Nixon, because he threatented to sing about the “Bay of Pigs thing” – the JFK assassination.

Minor correction.

Judge Jurden wrote in her ruling.

This society thrives in violence and bloodshed. They need that to survive and feel superior and exceptional.

To that you might want to add that this society always needs to feel that it is a victim. The phony victimhood justifies the violence and bloodsheed.

Time to get out of the USA while you still can. By this time next year it will be too late.

It really started when Wilson was coerced (threatened?) into signing the Fed Act of 1913.

It got worse September 11, 1941 when ground was broken for CIA headquarters and the Department of War was renamed “The Department of Defense”

You know, I was talking to someone here today who gave me a link to the Hasbara Manual listing all the things that the trolls are supposed to push and in it, there was a list of the the things the jews try to push on others and victimhood was one. I said, look at that is just exactly like the Amerikans except for the victimhood part. But I think you may have a point, it’s not just the Christuns with their persecution complex but it’s also the “they hate us for our freedoms” shit. If that ain’t victimhood, then, what is, right?

Yeah but aren’t we there anyway? They have the DHS ‘snitch on any suspicious activity’ video terminal program at Walmart coming soon. American citizens condemned to indefinite detention (Padilla) or death (Alawki) by presidential decree with no pretense of due process. The US is at least as much as, or probably much, much more of a surveillance state than Cuba since it has the technology.
Pretending to be a democracy doesn’t make it so. Why not just have it out in the open?

No, we’re not there yet. It actually gets worse. They have form/organize these neighborhood watches, deputize them and empower them. Trust me, we’re not there yet. It’s starting but it gets to the point where you whisper inside your own home for fear of being heard. Trust me, I’ve lived here. It looks something like this (and this is real, btw):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqmT9pByLIU&feature=fvsr

And they have to carry this to every level too: work places, schools, public places. If you read “1984″ you got the picture.

And another thing, they’re keeping the pretense of “terrorism” here. At some point, they drop that too and they just do it. No more excuses. Don’t rush it. They’ve got a plan.

See that’s my fear, I know what was done in Cuba with just notebooks and pencil stumps. With the resources & technology available here, we’ll soon have cameras installed in our colons and bugs insides our brains listening to our thoughts.

This one negates the proles:

Throughout recorded time, and probably since the end of the Neolithic Age, there have been three kids of people in world, the High, the Middle, and the Low. They have been subdivided in many ways, they have borne countless different names, and their relative numbers, as well as their attitude toward one another, have varied from to age; but the essential structure of society has never been altered. Even after enormous upheavals and seemingly irrevocable changes, the same pattern has always reasserted itself, just as the gyroscope will always return to equilibrium, however far it is pushed on way or the other.

The aims of these three groups are entirely irreconcilable. The aim of the High is to remain where they are. The aim of the Middle is to change places with the High. The aim of the Low, when they have an aim – for it is an abiding characteristic of the Low that they are too much crushed by drudgery to be more than intermittently conscious of anything outside their daily lives – is to abolish all distinctions and create a society in which all men shall be equal. Thus throughout history a struggle which is he same in its main outlines recurs over and over again. For long period the High seem to be securely in power, but sooner or later there always comes a moment when they lose either their belief in themselves, or their capacity to govern efficiently, or both. They are then overthrown by the Middle, who enlist the Low on their side by pretending to them that they are fighting for liberty and justice. As soon as they have reached their objective, the Middle thrust soon as they have reached their objective, the Middle thrust the Low back into their old position of servitude, and themselves become the High. Presently a new Middle group splits off from one of the other groups, or from both of them, and the struggle begins over again. Of the three groups, only the Low are never even temporarily successful in achieving their aims. It would be an exaggeration to say that throughout history there had been no progress of a material kind. Even today, in a period of decline, the average human being is physically better off than he was a few centuries ago. But no advance in wealth, no softening of manner, no reform or revolution has ever brought human equality a millimeter nearer. From the point of view of the Low, no historic damage has ever meant much more than a change in the name of their masters.

It’s already here. The only jobs available are inside jobs.

It’s already here. The only jobs available are inside jobs.

It’s already here. The only jobs available are inside jobs.

jimbowski is paying attention. Is anyone else?

This judge is sadly, for all practical purposes, pissing in the wind.

Don’t they say a picture is worth a thousand words?:
http://www.truthcontrol.com/files/truthcontrol/images/1917.jpg

Ain’t nothing new, it’s been this way for some time now, and we love it!

“1984 may have come a bit later than predicted, but it’s here at last,” Chief Judge Alex Kozinski wrote. I guess the Judge didn’t get the memo; many of us have been saying this for years or at least since the day the Patriot Act was signed by Busy. I love how these Johnny-come-latelys think they are telling us something NEW?! But I guess it’s better late than never…

‘”1984 may have come a bit later than predicted, but it’s here at last,” Chief Judge Alex Kozinski wrote.’

I guess the Judge didn’t get the memo; many of us have been saying this very thing for decades and at least as soon as the Patriot Act was signed by Bush. I love how these Johnny-come-lately’s think they’re enlightening us to things we already know! I guess it’s better to be late than never arrive at all. I hope this judge does his part to stop the slide into Orwellianism, otherwise he’s just part of a problem we’ve been saying exists for years.

see but they know how we roll.
we got the dumb scare crows that desperately need a brain.
then we got those that are like the lion who desperately needs courage.
then we got those like the tin man who can not feel so they desperately need a heart.
Dorothy just wants to go home.
in the end the great and powerful Oz,
is a creepy old man behind a bigger than life optical illusion machine!

Hey judge, TOO LATE!!!!

It started in 2001 when the Bush/Cheney junta stole the White House!!!

Watch what you eat. All subversives will be secretly chipped via nano scale tracking devices which will provide 24/7 around the clock biological surveillance. It’s only a matter of time before a remote kill device is created.

Read up on it.

We can also expect that as soon as the feds get the ability to mass produce the biological surveillance nano chips they’ll spray it on our food, water, or add it to our vaccines.

There is nothing we can do to avoid being chipped but you can be damn sure the subversives will be chipped first. Just look at how the government treats sex offenders and you’ll have an idea of what they plan for everybody when the time is right.

Nothing can protect our bodies from the ruthless technological nanobot surveillance. We don’t even have the technology to detect it as civilians.

Good for Judge Jurden it makes me feel better when I hear about Judges that are upholding the Constitution and not allowing law enforcement to violate our rights just because they can. There was simply no reason for them not to get a warrant they had cause but they were just to lazy to jump through the hoops needed to do thing legally.

M: Yes, thanks to ol’ Kathy and Jebby,and the S. Court in FL. But wait, it happened again in 2004 in OH, when Kenny Boy Blackwell whirled his magic dials, and, presto, the little w. guy and his band of thieves, liars and warmongers were back in for another 4 more miserable years, eight total. The little creep was never legally elected by the people. The will, wants and needs of the American people are gone forever. Long live billionaires, trillionaires, their tax cuts, and the 98 percent of the rest of us can rot, die, starve, live in the streets and there you have it. Hmm, maybe I should be more upbeat? After all, it is Jan. 1, 2011.

M: Yes, thanks to ol’ Kathy and Jebby,and the S. Court in FL. But wait, it happened again in 2004 in OH, when Kenny Boy Blackwell whirled his magic dials, and, presto, the little w. guy and his band of thieves, liars and warmongers were back in for another 4 more miserable years, eight total. The little creep was never legally elected by the people. The will, wants and needs of the American people are gone forever. Long live billionaires, trillionaires, their tax cuts, and the 98 percent of the rest of us can rot, die, starve, live in the streets and there you have it. Hmm, maybe I should be more upbeat? After all, it is Jan. 1, 2011.

The power grab started back in 1913 with the creation of the Fed. Americans were sold out to foreign interest. Without the Fed and it’s endless ability to expand the money supply the gangsta gubmint wouldn’t be able to fund their tyranny. End the Fed, End the Tyranny.

Permit me to issue and control the money of the nation and I care not who makes its laws. — Mayer Amsched Rothchild, a prominent European banker in the eighteenth century

What came first? The chicken or the egg:)

Good Question! Democratic Headquarters would be a treasure trove of information about Democrats, their campaign schedules, etc, I can only speculate. It was revealed that the spying occurred up to a year or more, before the Water Gate fiasco, where they were caught. The burglars were Cubans and ex CIA. In the movie, it was revealed that they were looking for dirt on Democrats running for President. Muski was destroyed with dirt found on him about an illegitimate child if I remember correctly. Humphry was accused of visiting a hooker. They were investigating Ted Kennedy who Nixon hated and feared above all, as a threat to his re-election. A lawyer, Segretti, revealed a clue, by the actions they were taking called “Rat Fucking.” looking for dirt on candidates, filing false press reports, changing the time of a democratic rally etc Who knows, all that was not revealed, and no one got caught. Water Gate was a sloppy burglary where they got caught. All of it was a success in that Nixon got re-elected, a failure in that two reporters would investigate relentlessly ( .Woodward and Bernstein) and Deep Throat,( later to be revealed as a top official in the FBI.) One thing is clear, now, that it was a major operation with Nixon’s blessing, and his eventually being run out of office.

Go read up on how suckers like you are paid trolls.

How can you der3nd the neocon madmen?
You’re a sad souless neocon troll.

Delusional, paranoid speculative postulations……………YAWN!!!!!!!!!

“Probable Cause” is a key issue. EX: Mandatory STOP Checkpoints for Drunk Drivers. Their job is to notice drivers who are weaving among lanes, speeding, or driving erratically; this represents a “probable cause” that they may be drunk. Stopping cars at random gives them the opportunity to harass people at their whim. If they don’t like your appearance or attitude, or the messages on your bumper, they WILL find a way to give you a ticket, or worse.
Next: search checkpoints at rail stations, bus stations, bus stops and finally, in the mall an on any street in America. “Liberty” means to be able to move about without undue intrusion or impediments. If you let them take your liberty away, you might as well let them end your life.

“Probable Cause” is a key issue. EX: Mandatory STOP Checkpoints for Drunk Drivers. Their job is to notice drivers who are weaving among lanes, speeding, or driving erratically; this represents a “probable cause” that they may be drunk. Stopping cars at random gives them the opportunity to harass people at their whim. If they don’t like your appearance or attitude, or the messages on your bumper, they WILL find a way to give you a ticket, or worse.
Next: search checkpoints at rail stations, bus stations, bus stops and finally, in the mall an on any street in America. “Liberty” means to be able to move about without undue intrusion or impediments. If you let them take your liberty away, you might as well let them end your life.

Judge you are a little late in your warning. It’s almost as if the powers that be read Orwell’s book and used it as a” how to for dummy’s” book! After reading the news everyday I feel as if we have already lost the war. The only bright spot is reading about Julian Assange! It gives me hope there are young people still willing to fight for truth. A few anyway!

I agree completely.

But sadly, 99% of Americans are ignorant fools who believe everything they’re told by “daddy government” because they think “daddy government” is keeping them safe.
As he slowly tightens the noose around their necks.

The vast majority of Americans are cowards who are afraid of their own shadows.

This country is finished.

You’e an agent provacateur. They always say “paranoid, delusional” even when reading an article about GPS bugs on cars they still don’t believe their government would put the bug in their body.

Do they tag animals to track them? Yes they do. So of course they’d tag humans.

I’m speaking the truth and you call me the troll?

Some sites, the HuffPo for instance, would NEVER run an article like this that exposes a horrible problem with the Democratic Paradise.

The Government must monitor everything citizens do, but the government needs to to hide what THEY do from the citizens and the Government must use any means to destroy anyone who leaks any hidden information ……
because the citizens might be up to no good, but the people in power would NEVER think of doing anything unethical or illegal to increase their power…..would they?

USA is becoming the old USSR, we now even have our own Pravda…Fox ‘News’

Don’t worry ThatBostonMan – Neoconater has a problem with the coming nightmare of nanotechnology. They always “trust” our completely corrupt and criminal government even though we are currently living in a police state nightmare since the “patriot act”. Time to flee this fascist shithole before the borders are closed to keep us in.

Judge Jurden is now on the “Pre-terrorist tendencies” list for daring to make us unsafe by recognizing the truth.
Or is it the “About to support terrorists” list?

Remember Bush’s phrase “evildoers?” They live here and they ain’t Muslims.

Liked by mistake. Why not just drop this “Far right” garbage and open your eyes?

This could technically be applied to all those ‘services’ currently available like “On Star” etc. that can track every movement of a vehicle. What if those were tracked every day on every citizen by computer controlled systems. Every person with one could be tracked for every movement they do in their vehicle. A bicycle is about the only safe transoort for privacy these days, or walking.

This could technically be applied to all those ‘services’ currently available like “On Star” etc. that can track every movement of a vehicle. What if those were tracked every day on every citizen by computer controlled systems. Every person with one could be tracked for every movement they do in their vehicle. A bicycle is about the only safe transoort for privacy these days, or walking.

Digital Cellphones can also be tracked when on with an established connection.

Digital Cellphones can also be tracked when on with an established connection.

[...] judges.Looking into the future. Judges outside the state see the Orwellian State we are headed to.Judge warns of ‘Orwellian state’ in warrantless GPS tracking case“1984 may have come a bit later than predicted, but it’s here at last,” Chief [...]

…since when has warrentless wiretapping been a “democratic party” agenda item?…. seems to me it was instituted by the overlord Bush administration….

…since when has warrentless wiretapping been a “democratic party” agenda item?…. seems to me it was instituted by the overlord Bush administration….

…since when has warrentless wiretapping been a “democratic party” agenda item?…. seems to me it was instituted by the overlord Bush administration….

All the leaders (unless they were corporate prior to election) probably had some sembelence of “helping/leading the peope” intentions and when they get in office, they are overwhelmed with the Oz behind the curtin – the reality of the actual situation of corporate fascism becomes clear and the ability to get out from under is non-existant. The global corporations and their quest for bottom line rule most governments as puppets, including ours.

All the leaders (unless they were corporate prior to election) probably had some sembelence of “helping/leading the peope” intentions and when they get in office, they are overwhelmed with the Oz behind the curtin – the reality of the actual situation of corporate fascism becomes clear and the ability to get out from under is non-existant. The global corporations and their quest for bottom line rule most governments as puppets, including ours.

FDR said, “We have nothing to fear but fear itself”… but that was then and this is now: The only thing we embrace today is fear itself. Fear of MUSLIMS, fear of terrorists, fear of immigrants. fear of liberals…. We don’t want the smoking gun to come in the shape of a mushroom cloud do we?

This is still America, right? The Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave, right? Now, drop your trousers, turn around, bend over, spread those cheeks and say, “Freedom!!!”.

FDR said, “We have nothing to fear but fear itself”… but that was then and this is now: The only thing we embrace today is fear itself. Fear of MUSLIMS, fear of terrorists, fear of immigrants. fear of liberals…. We don’t want the smoking gun to come in the shape of a mushroom cloud do we?

This is still America, right? The Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave, right? Now, drop your trousers, turn around, bend over, spread those cheeks and say, “Freedom!!!”.

“they hate us for our freedoms”

That is precisely the “victimhood” crap I was referring to. Israel and the US DoD propaganda squad work from the same play book. The DoD has billions of dollars a year to spend for recruitmentment, and the “Victimhood” meme is one of its big tools in its arsenal.

Thanks for the Hasbara reference. I read that Israel had active programs on US campuses, but I didn’t know that a guidebook was available online.

Followed your exchange with ProudPrimate, and read the Castro interview he linked to. Understand you feel he is just a big talker, but for an guy his age, seem’s like he’s got a remarkably sharp mind.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?aid=21892&context=va

“they hate us for our freedoms”

That is precisely the “victimhood” crap I was referring to. Israel and the US DoD propaganda squad work from the same play book. The DoD has billions of dollars a year to spend for recruitmentment, and the “Victimhood” meme is one of its big tools in its arsenal.

Thanks for the Hasbara reference. I read that Israel had active programs on US campuses, but I didn’t know that a guidebook was available online.

Followed your exchange with ProudPrimate, and read the Castro interview he linked to. Understand you feel he is just a big talker, but for an guy his age, seem’s like he’s got a remarkably sharp mind.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?aid=21892&context=va

maybe we should track the people who are make these laws, they maybe doing wrong.

maybe we should track the people who are make these laws, they maybe doing wrong.

You failed to mention the main point. Nixon was impeached for obstruction of justice, because he tried to block the FBI investigation of Watergate. Now why would a president risk being removed from office over a petty burglary? Simple answer, because one of the burglars was E. Howard Hunt, who was threatening to spill the beans about Nixon’s involvement in the Kennedy assassination. The Rethug congressmen abandoned him which is why he resigned, because impeachment would have been inevitable. Before he resigned, he worked out a deal with Ford before he named him VP, insuring that Ford would pardon him so that the evidence linking Nixon to the JFK assassination would never come to light. Remember, Gerald Ford was on the Warren Commission, so he had already proved that he knew how to keep his mouth shut.

You failed to mention the main point. Nixon was impeached for obstruction of justice, because he tried to block the FBI investigation of Watergate. Now why would a president risk being removed from office over a petty burglary? Simple answer, because one of the burglars was E. Howard Hunt, who was threatening to spill the beans about Nixon’s involvement in the Kennedy assassination. The Rethug congressmen abandoned him which is why he resigned, because impeachment would have been inevitable. Before he resigned, he worked out a deal with Ford before he named him VP, insuring that Ford would pardon him so that the evidence linking Nixon to the JFK assassination would never come to light. Remember, Gerald Ford was on the Warren Commission, so he had already proved that he knew how to keep his mouth shut.

You failed to mention the main point. Nixon was impeached for obstruction of justice, because he tried to block the FBI investigation of Watergate. Now why would a president risk being removed from office over a petty burglary? Simple answer, because one of the burglars was E. Howard Hunt, who was threatening to spill the beans about Nixon’s involvement in the Kennedy assassination. The Rethug congressmen abandoned him which is why he resigned, because impeachment would have been inevitable. Before he resigned, he worked out a deal with Ford before he named him VP, insuring that Ford would pardon him so that the evidence linking Nixon to the JFK assassination would never come to light. Remember, Gerald Ford was on the Warren Commission, so he had already proved that he knew how to keep his mouth shut.

Yeah, I know, but I’d like to think that that “terrorist” meme is starting to get old. Unless they can gin up another false-flag op like 9/11 and conntect a new bunch of “Muslims” to it, people will start calling the propagandists on their BS.

Yeah, I know, but I’d like to think that that “terrorist” meme is starting to get old. Unless they can gin up another false-flag op like 9/11 and conntect a new bunch of “Muslims” to it, people will start calling the propagandists on their BS.

Yeah, I know, but I’d like to think that that “terrorist” meme is starting to get old. Unless they can gin up another false-flag op like 9/11 and conntect a new bunch of “Muslims” to it, people will start calling the propagandists on their BS.

You’ve got a problem, it is called deep denial.

They always trust our corrupt government??
Listen up chump, you don’t speak for me, you have no clue regarding my views of our government if you spew that kind of tripe.

You’ve got a problem, it is called deep denial.

They always trust our corrupt government??
Listen up chump, you don’t speak for me, you have no clue regarding my views of our government if you spew that kind of tripe.

Nope, you’re just driveling the same moronic crap post after post. troll.

Nope, you’re just driveling the same moronic crap post after post. troll.

YAWN………you paranoid silly troll.

YAWN………you paranoid silly troll.

YAWN………you paranoid silly troll.

Maybe you should open you eyes, are you in a coma??
The current SCOTUS is as far right a SCOTUS America has ever endured.

Sorry to confuse you with that fact.

[...] and keeping with the theme from Chris Hedges’ piece, this headline from Raw Story: “Judge warns of ‘Orwellian state’ in warrantless GPS tracking case… Police in Delaware may soon be unable to use global positioning systems (GPS) to keep tabs [...]

[...] and keeping with the theme from Chris Hedges’ piece, this headline from Raw Story: “Judge warns of ‘Orwellian state’ in warrantless GPS tracking case… Police in Delaware may soon be unable to use global positioning systems (GPS) to keep tabs [...]

U.S. attorney general Eric Holder : “The threat has changed from simply worrying about foreigners coming here, to worrying about people in the United States, American citizens — raised here, born here, and who for whatever reason, have decided that they are going to become radicalized and take up arms against the nation in which they were born,”

After see this video I happen to agree with him that According to the 2010 census we have now 308,745,538 citizens involved in suspicious activities using Wal-Mart as the base for operations. They all must be tracked !!

http://www.naturalnews.tv/v.asp?v=5A4B5D4B84344D5D9CBD262A53D8B071

[...] Read entire article [...]

First they came for the Socialists and I did
Not speak out -
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists and I did
Not speak out because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews and I did
Not speak out because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me and there was
No one left to speak for me.

Niermoller

First they came for the Socialists and I did
Not speak out -
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists and I did
Not speak out because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews and I did
Not speak out because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me and there was
No one left to speak for me.

Niermoller

“Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you.”

“Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you.”

Yes, you’ve got a problem called deep denial. Seconded.

Yes, you’ve got a problem called deep denial. Seconded.

I think the judge is entirely correct, but when it gets to John Roberts, we are dead. The potential is enormous, and in large part we built it ourselves, with face book, and buying phones that contain GPS tracking.
Notice this being couched as drug related. We have lost a good many of our protections against search and seizure by people chanting ‘war on drugs’. Here goes another one. It is a form of terrorism, and it gets the judges worked up while their political opponents chant ‘soft on drugs’. Meanwhile, powdering their noses.

I think the judge is entirely correct, but when it gets to John Roberts, we are dead. The potential is enormous, and in large part we built it ourselves, with face book, and buying phones that contain GPS tracking.
Notice this being couched as drug related. We have lost a good many of our protections against search and seizure by people chanting ‘war on drugs’. Here goes another one. It is a form of terrorism, and it gets the judges worked up while their political opponents chant ‘soft on drugs’. Meanwhile, powdering their noses.

You are right. There is so much more to cover in this criminal event in history. My main focus was on the visionary George Orwell and the corruption of power which makes the list of events in history quite extensive needing a book or books to cover

Yes correct.
And right now no one if after him.

Good job, Judge.

Who can doubt the ruling of the existing Supreme Court. This hard right-wing Catholic association of evil doers never lacks diligence when whacking down the Constitution.

I’ll bet this judge just got added to the 3 million strong no fly list.

Technology available today enables the government to track each and every aspect of our lives including even real time monitoring of physiological functions. It is possible to see through clothing without having someone walk through a scanner. It is possible to see through walls into people’s homes. It is possible to track all your internet use and use that information to develop a detailed profile about you showing everything from what types of music and food you like to your fears, likes, dislikes, biases…they can pretty much create a fairly accurate profile of your thinking process. Its very easy to find out who your friends are and which of them is closer to you. Its no problem finding out what your schedule is, what events you’ll be attending and even what you have said about those upcoming events. Once a profile has been created for a person, it is never destroyed…it is always available in some form or another somewhere or another.

The state functions on two levels….there is the public domain where the government functions within the law. Then there is the secret domain, where national security and intelligence matters allow a form of cover where the law becomes irrelevant and the government is able to carry out whatever actions it wishes. The secret domain is always active and is engaged in widespread activities, not only against foreigners, but against all Americans too. Where the secret domain captures activity by individuals or groups that is illegal but does not rise to the level of national security or intelligence related matters, that activity is ignored to preserve the secrecy of the domain and its infrastructure.

therefore, just because this judge ordered that its illegal to track citizens without a warrant…it doesn’t mean that it won’t be going on anyway. It’s possible that this activity it stopped in the public domain, but the secret domain will continue in full swing as the hidden Orwellian state regardless of any constitution, public opinion, or laws.

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[...] of ‘Orwellian state’ in warrantless GPS tracking caseBy Ali K. – January 2, 2011 Tweet Source: Raw StoryPolice in Delaware may soon be unable to use global positioning systems (GPS) to keep tabs on a [...]

For those of you that blame people with social ideas and thinking I can tell you that any true socialist will not (ever) condone what these people are doing. This is not socialism, Bush did not operate under capitalism either, and they are fascist, which is totally different. We need to rescue the Republican Party and the Democratic Party before we lose the country.

How can the Democratic Party be so clueless? The Full scan body machines are new as well as the latest procedures designated to denigrate the voters. The voter will remember this and will never vote for the Democratic Party again. What are the Party members worry about? Some stupid position rather than stop the TSA and the molestation of the flying population. We had a great opportunity by having majority all over and they mess-up BIG TIME.

Did I vote for the Democrats in this last election? NNNOOO!!!! Will I vote again for the Democratic Candidates? Only if they return to their basic principle of respect to humans and the Constitution of the USA.

For those of you that blame people with social ideas and thinking I can tell you that any true socialist will not (ever) condone what these people are doing. This is not socialism, Bush did not operate under capitalism either, and they are fascist, which is totally different. We need to rescue the Republican Party and the Democratic Party before we lose the country.

How can the Democratic Party be so clueless? The Full scan body machines are new as well as the latest procedures designated to denigrate the voters. The voter will remember this and will never vote for the Democratic Party again. What are the Party members worry about? Some stupid position rather than stop the TSA and the molestation of the flying population. We had a great opportunity by having majority all over and they mess-up BIG TIME.

Did I vote for the Democrats in this last election? NNNOOO!!!! Will I vote again for the Democratic Candidates? Only if they return to their basic principle of respect to humans and the Constitution of the USA.

The Huffington Post has never told this story and never will tell this story since their game is supportive propaganda, not news. The LAST think they want to do is relate precisely and accurately to reality.

This article makes it sound like the decision is going against a federal appeals court, the decision it’s referencing is a 9th circuit California opinion, which does not have binding authority over Delaware federal courts. This decision may still be overturned by the 3rd circuit however

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[...] Judge warns of ‘Orwellian state’ in warrantless GPS tracking case Police in Delaware may soon be unable to use global positioning systems (GPS) to keep tabs on a suspect unless they have a court-signed warrant, thanks to a recent ruling by a superior court judge who cited famed author George Orwell in her decision. The Raw Story [...]

[...] Quelle: Raw Story [...]

[...] superior court judge in Delaware has struck down evidence that was obtained via warrantless GPS tracking. In her ruling, Judge Jan R. Jurden stated, [...]

[...] superior court judge in Delaware has struck down evidence that was obtained via warrantless GPS tracking. In her ruling, Judge Jan R. Jurden stated, [...]

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That’s not the only way police spy on citizens. All emails, post to web pages (like this one), are scanned, recorded, analyzed and tucked away for some day when the cops may decide to use them against you.

Have OnStar in your car? The cops can listen in on your conversations. We’ve got the same kinds of drones used in Iraq being used by cops to spy on you from the air. Your cell phone? You don’t think your conversations are being recorded? Years ago, the U.K. announced a policy that ALL electronic communications – phone, internet, email, sms/text messages, etc. – would be recorded and held for 7 years.

Big Brother is watching. And listening. And recording it all.

That’s not the only way police spy on citizens. All emails, post to web pages (like this one), are scanned, recorded, analyzed and tucked away for some day when the cops may decide to use them against you.

Have OnStar in your car? The cops can listen in on your conversations. We’ve got the same kinds of drones used in Iraq being used by cops to spy on you from the air. Your cell phone? You don’t think your conversations are being recorded? Years ago, the U.K. announced a policy that ALL electronic communications – phone, internet, email, sms/text messages, etc. – would be recorded and held for 7 years.

Big Brother is watching. And listening. And recording it all.