Humans are clueless on cause of oceanic tides, Bill O’Reilly claims

By Stephen C. Webster
Wednesday, January 5, 2011 16:30 EST
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What causes oceanic tides to crest and fall? According to conservative opinion host Bill O’Reilly, it’s a mystery.

It’s not actually a mystery, but to the Republican Fox News Channel’s favorite grouch, tidal movements are apparently proof positive that an invisible man is pulling the strings of reality.

He made the revealing statement during a recent segment of The O’Reilly Factor while challenging Dave Silverman, president of a group called “American Atheists.” That same organization was responsible for a billboard in Huntsville, Alabama that calls out to atheists who may still be attending religious ceremonies.

“You KNOW they’re all SCAMS,” the sign reads, promoting a regional meeting of non-believers. “American Atheists: Telling the Truth since 1963.”

O’Reilly, who claims to be a Christian and a “culture warrior” on a crusade against ideas and trends that displease him, took notice of the group’s outreach and invited Silverman on the show.

Their discussion was nothing short of heated.

“I’ll tell you why [religion is] not a scam,” he said. “In my opinion — alright? Tide goes in, tide goes out. Never a miscommunication. You can’t explain that. You can’t explain why the tide goes in.”

Silverman looked befuddled. “Tide goes in, tide goes … out?” he asked.

“See, the water, the tide– it comes in and it goes out, Mr. Silverman,” O’Reilly repeated. “It always goes in, then it goes out.”

“Maybe it’s Thor up on Mount Olympus who’s making the tides go in and out,” Silverman retorted.

“No-no-no!” the host objected. “You can’t explain that. You can’t explain it.”

“A myth and religion are the same thing,” Silverman said. “It doesn’t matter that I can’t explain it. It doesn’t mean that an invisible magic man in the sky is doing it.”

Of course, he can explain tidal movements, as can many 5th-8th grade students in US public schools.

In short, oceanic tides are caused by the moon’s rotation around the earth, with inertia and gravity causing a sea swell as it passes. Scientists have measured the phenomenon in great detail, documenting two distinct tidal bulges that circle the earth as the moon sweeps around it.

But don’t try telling that to O’Reilly.

A recent study by the University of Maryland found that extended exposure to the Republican Fox News Channel often resulted in voters believing patently false claims on key social and political issues.

This video is from the Republican Fox News Channel, broadcast Jan. 4, 2010.

Stephen C. Webster
Stephen C. Webster
Stephen C. Webster is the senior editor of Raw Story, and is based out of Austin, Texas. He previously worked as the associate editor of The Lone Star Iconoclast in Crawford, Texas, where he covered state politics and the peace movement’s resurgence at the start of the Iraq war. Webster has also contributed to publications such as True/Slant, Austin Monthly, The Dallas Business Journal, The Dallas Morning News, Fort Worth Weekly, The News Connection and others. Follow him on Twitter at @StephenCWebster.
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  • Anonymous

    Shouldn’t this guy have his broadcasting license revoked by now?

  • Anonymous

    uhhhhhhh . . . . don’t it have somethin’ t’ do wit’ th’ goldurn MOON … somehow … dude ?

    RW MORONS: Tell us all what YOU “think” about this … please ?

  • Anonymous

    uhhhhhhh . . . . don’t it have somethin’ t’ do wit’ th’ goldurn MOON … somehow … dude ?

    RW MORONS: Tell us all what YOU “think” about this … please ?

  • Anonymous

    oh come now, this is the 1 millionth straw to break this camels back. oreilly haters are burning as bright as the sun, a quarter cup more fuel wont change that. the idiots who watch his show, well they watch his show, enough said.

  • Anonymous

    oh come now, this is the 1 millionth straw to break this camels back. oreilly haters are burning as bright as the sun, a quarter cup more fuel wont change that. the idiots who watch his show, well they watch his show, enough said.

  • Where goeth sanity?

    I wish he’d have his license to breathe revoked by the “Wave Maker”.

  • Where goeth sanity?

    I wish he’d have his license to breathe revoked by the “Wave Maker”.

  • Anonymous

    O’Liellly is the one human who is clueless. He is full of chit.

  • kiboshki

    What no one can explain is why FOX’s tide of stupidity never ends.

  • kiboshki

    What no one can explain is why FOX’s tide of stupidity never ends.

  • Anonymous

    You know what’s really the final straw?

    “Cables indicate Japan asked USA for help fighting Sea Shepherd”

    Julian revealed this.

    That’s the final straw.

    Japan asked the US a question.

    Julian’s good ‘e is.

  • Anonymous

    You know what’s really the final straw?

    “Cables indicate Japan asked USA for help fighting Sea Shepherd”

    Julian revealed this.

    That’s the final straw.

    Japan asked the US a question.

    Julian’s good ‘e is.

  • http://harry-canary.myopenid.com/ Harry Canary

    Humans understand these things, republicons and CONservatives are the cluless ones.

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  • Anonymous

    Greetings,

    Whenever someone starts to tell me something crazy or absurd the first thing I will ask is: “do you watch Fox News?” and if the answer is yes then I end the conversation. I’m not even going to waste my breath on those people. Quite frankly, they are beneath contempt.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FFRSOYVPHWTMPAWDF3MWX4BWJM RED

    There was once a young scam artist/preacher named venomfangx. As “proof of existence of God” he stated “The Earth orbits the Sun in a perfect circle.” He was laughed off the internet, or perhaps chased off as he was found to be scamming his congregation for money.

    He and O’Reilly, birds of a feather.

  • http://twitter.com/shivabeach Shiva

    the tide goes in and out. What was his point? Its the fooking moon O’leilly, how stupid are you?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3QIJ4LGZX6PZOJSD57QIC3NRAA Straw

    I’ve never quite gotten why atheists don’t point out that thinking there is NO god is just as much of a scam as thinking there is. They certainly haven’t proven it.

    Let people believe what they want to believe and quit trying to shame them with spurious BS.

  • http://www.zazzle.com/InfinitudeTortoises* An Infinitude of Tortoises

    O’Really?

  • Lefty Leftist

    This is something I learned around the 3rd grade. Maybe YOUR audience is clueless Billo.

  • Anonymous

    I appreciate that the article refers appropriately to the REPUBLICAN Fox News. It’s clear to everyone who DOESN’T watch Fox that’s exactly what it is.

  • GunTotingLib

    So yea, you can explain tides, you elitist know it alls with all your book learning, but what happens to the sun when it sets, bet you can’t explain that. It’s God.

  • Anonymous

    If Bill’s science is coming from the bible then he also believes in a geocentric universe with a flat earth at the center.

  • Fedupin10

    Would you expect any less from an Evolution / climate change denier?

    Science Bad!

    Where’s Ugg when we need him?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3WYAWTN4LJ2TAZGFCL3U4H6AWM TheGuru

    The sad thing about this is that there are actually a great deal of people out there who believe that he is an intellectual, and that they parrot all of his opinions.

    This network is a pestilence upon our society.

  • Anonymous

    O’Reilly admits he’s “not the smartest man in the room”. Duly noted.

    Meanwhile, ScientificalManFan does not/cannot? credit the fucking moon with it’s most notable observable effect upon the earth?

    All bow to our future Sino-Hindu overlords!

  • Anonymous

    O’Reilly admits he’s “not the smartest man in the room”. Duly noted.

    Meanwhile, ScientificalManFan does not/cannot? credit the fucking moon with it’s most notable observable effect upon the earth?

    All bow to our future Sino-Hindu overlords!

  • Tom

    Sometimes something is just so stupid, that even I can’t come with anything witty to say about it, all I can do is an internet Face-palm.

  • Tom

    Sometimes something is just so stupid, that even I can’t come with anything witty to say about it, all I can do is an internet Face-palm.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t understand how the tide works….it must be “God”

    I don’t understand gravity…it must be him again

    I don’t understand the stars….it’s GOD again.

    Are we missing a step here?

  • Anonymous

    I don’t understand how the tide works….it must be “God”

    I don’t understand gravity…it must be him again

    I don’t understand the stars….it’s GOD again.

    Are we missing a step here?

  • Phil E. Drifter

    You’re an idiot, and I won’t even begin to explain to you how you cannot prove something does not exist, you can only prove that which exists.

  • Anonymous

    I’m an Atheist….and I believe in mostly an evolution based theory on how we got here.

    And I also believe “CLIMATE CHANGE” is right up there with RELIGION on the biggest scams ever list.

  • Anonymous

    I’m an Atheist….and I believe in mostly an evolution based theory on how we got here.

    And I also believe “CLIMATE CHANGE” is right up there with RELIGION on the biggest scams ever list.

  • Anonymous

    i was referring to oreillys credibility and competence

  • Anonymous

    god = santa claus = paris hiltons talent
    i dont need to prove any of these dont exist

  • Anonymous

    You’ve all seen this, but…
    University College London in the UK has found that conservatives’ brains have larger amygdalas than the brains of liberals. Amygdalas are responsible for fear and other “primitive” emotions. The same study found that conservatives’ brains have a smaller anterior cingulate — the part of the brain responsible for courage and optimism.
    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/conservatives-fear-center-brain

  • Anonymous

    so you are only 50% stupid now?

  • Anonymous

    O’Reilly is one of the most ignorant people wasting air on this planet.

  • Anonymous

    So? Show us your data that disproves it. What you think doesn’t matter.

  • Anonymous

    Agreed. There is no point in even trying to talk to those whose lives are based on lies. Especially those who INSIST on staying as stupid as can be. Which is all of them.

  • Anonymous

    Well… humans who watch Fox News (sic) are clueless on cause of oceanic tides. That I believe is very possible.

  • http://twitter.com/btmfdrsheaven rebecca meritt

    sorry guys,I believe in G-d, who else would have let the repuggs live this long?

  • Anonymous

    Subway did commercials for Bill:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk-ok-Qfs70

    We like da mooon…. cause it close to us

  • http://twitter.com/MouseStick J. Wolf

    BO doesn’t know what causes the tides? WTF? Did he not go to school?

  • http://www.google.com/profiles/chasmsar Sar Chasm

    Please don’t put Evolution and “climate change” in the same category. Evolution is a robust scientific hypothesis backed by countless scientific (read repeatable) observation. The other (at best) is a proposed scientific hypothesis backed by little observation, some numerical twisting and a lot (an incredible amount) of media cheer-leading. I wont tell you the worst option of where “climate change” comes from. I would tell you that before you jump on Stew-Beef’s wagon to sell your “scientific theory” you may want to include (with reasonable assumptions) the effect of water vapor movement in current climate models.

    To your point: Yes I did expect a bit more, even from an “O’Reilly”. Claiming no plausible scientific explanation for the tides is a new level of Buffoonity in my book.

  • http://www.google.com/profiles/chasmsar Sar Chasm

    Please don’t put Evolution and “climate change” in the same category. Evolution is a robust scientific hypothesis backed by countless scientific (read repeatable) observation. The other (at best) is a proposed scientific hypothesis backed by little observation, some numerical twisting and a lot (an incredible amount) of media cheer-leading. I wont tell you the worst option of where “climate change” comes from. I would tell you that before you jump on Stew-Beef’s wagon to sell your “scientific theory” you may want to include (with reasonable assumptions) the effect of water vapor movement in current climate models.

    To your point: Yes I did expect a bit more, even from an “O’Reilly”. Claiming no plausible scientific explanation for the tides is a new level of Buffoonity in my book.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/5OQFBZ26C3VQ5ONGZGDBDY4BUU Mark A

    And what about rainbows? Don’t tell me those fuckers have any scientific explanation. It’s just God’s paintbrush in the sky.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/5OQFBZ26C3VQ5ONGZGDBDY4BUU Mark A

    And what about rainbows? Don’t tell me those fuckers have any scientific explanation. It’s just God’s paintbrush in the sky.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, I kind of went off on a tangent about reading the shit every day.

    “Bill O’Reilly is a dumbass.”

    “Julian Assange shall save the world, but wait til tomorrow.”

    Same shit every day.

    Millionth straw over and over and over.

    Makes me fucking vomit.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, I kind of went off on a tangent about reading the shit every day.

    “Bill O’Reilly is a dumbass.”

    “Julian Assange shall save the world, but wait til tomorrow.”

    Same shit every day.

    Millionth straw over and over and over.

    Makes me fucking vomit.

  • Anonymous

    More to the point, why doesn’t Silverman know what causes tides? As an atheist, I demand a better spokesperson. Jeez.

    I think BO actually does know how tides work, he’s just assuming most of his audience doesn’t.

  • Anonymous

    More to the point, why doesn’t Silverman know what causes tides? As an atheist, I demand a better spokesperson. Jeez.

    I think BO actually does know how tides work, he’s just assuming most of his audience doesn’t.

  • Anonymous

    WTF??? Is this guy really THAT stupid?

    What does he think holds his fat ass in his chair, FAIRIES?

    If you thought 2010 was unbelievable I’m christening 2011… YEAR OF THE STUPID.

  • Anonymous

    WTF??? Is this guy really THAT stupid?

    What does he think holds his fat ass in his chair, FAIRIES?

    If you thought 2010 was unbelievable I’m christening 2011… YEAR OF THE STUPID.

  • Anonymous

    tell us that when you’re ass deep in water. what a dipshit

  • Anonymous

    tell us that when you’re ass deep in water. what a dipshit

  • Anonymous

    The magic “the falafel thing” goes in,
    The magic “the falafel thing” goes out.
    See it’s easy Bill.

    Now were going to work on Gravity next…
    The magic “the falafel thing” falls from a tree and beans you on the pinhead.
    See how easy that was.

    Now we will work on breathing unassisted.
    Hold the magic “the falafel thing” tightly to your chest and give it a big hug.
    NO BILL I SAID CHEST!
    Good boy…
    Now release, then repeat..
    I knew you could do it. Slow me down if I’m going to fast for you Bill..
    Now…
    In several months (years) we will work on logical thought, no Bill I said logical not loofah.

    Well never mind I’ve got a dog to teach calculus to first. I always take the easy jobs first.
    I’ll get back to you later Bill OK?

  • Anonymous

    The magic “the falafel thing” goes in,
    The magic “the falafel thing” goes out.
    See it’s easy Bill.

    Now were going to work on Gravity next…
    The magic “the falafel thing” falls from a tree and beans you on the pinhead.
    See how easy that was.

    Now we will work on breathing unassisted.
    Hold the magic “the falafel thing” tightly to your chest and give it a big hug.
    NO BILL I SAID CHEST!
    Good boy…
    Now release, then repeat..
    I knew you could do it. Slow me down if I’m going to fast for you Bill..
    Now…
    In several months (years) we will work on logical thought, no Bill I said logical not loofah.

    Well never mind I’ve got a dog to teach calculus to first. I always take the easy jobs first.
    I’ll get back to you later Bill OK?

  • http://twitter.com/crazzeeedave dave

    every time I take out a kleenex a new one pops up proof of the flying spaghetti monster

  • Anonymous

    Sorry dude, but the science is more robust than you think. I know actual scientists who actually work on this stuff.

    I do think the media sensationalize it and always pounce on worst-case scenarios, and this is annoying because it ends up eroding the credibility of the science among laypersons such as yourself who don’t read the literature. I don’t think you are in a position to determine whether numbers had been twisted or not. If you are, you need to finish your paper posthaste, publish or perish after all.

  • Anonymous

    Bill O’Really is clueless on what it is to be human. He’s just an automaton. Rupert turned into an inhuman being.

  • Anonymous

    Atheism is the same as theism. Both beliefs are a matter of faith. For an atheist to say, ‘there is no God’ is an expression of faith, since he can not refute it without evidence.. So, end up buried on a pig farm in Texas, Mr. Silverman.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, he’s called Ra :D

  • Anonymous

    after reading this …it looks like O’Reilly doesn’t know ..guess who showing their ass… again

  • Anonymous

    It’s like that veep that wrote Potatoe

    lol

  • Anonymous

    I saw a video of Paris giving a fine BJ. I can accept Paris=talent=BJ, and I’ll even take ‘therefor BJ=god”. But we gotta leave Santa out of this.

  • http://jammer5spolyrant.wordpress.com/ Jammer5

    It’s obviously the man in the moon, who also happens to be made of green cheese (actually a well-aged bleu-cheese) who is pulling strings and creating tides. Every follower of his noodly appendage knows that. RAmen.

  • Anonymous

    Most of Oreilly’s fans probably don’t know what causes the tides because they don’t know what most consider common knowledge. It seems to me that these “christians” make the worst Americans because they don’t believe in religious freedom.

  • Anonymous

    Could it be….SATAN????

  • Anonymous

    Okay, I give. Got me laughing with this. Thanks.

  • Anonymous

    Okay, I give. Got me laughing with this. Thanks.

  • Anonymous

    the tides are caused by gods breathing

  • Anonymous

    the tides are caused by gods breathing

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VKTCM2DCWPVUXEKN5G5QNTBJNQ Dustin A

    I love the “sic”. Way to be cognizant ;)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VKTCM2DCWPVUXEKN5G5QNTBJNQ Dustin A

    I love the “sic”. Way to be cognizant ;)

  • Anonymous

    hang in there

  • http://rightvsleft.com/2011/01/05/wide-partisan-divide-over-global-warming/ Right Vs Left – Wide Partisan Divide Over Global Warming

    [...] Humans are clueless on cause of oceanic tides, Bill O’Reilly claims (Raw Story) [...]

  • Anonymous

    Oreilly must be studying, from Texas text books, where they are continually, rewriting history and science, gurranteeing him an audience.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe he was just talking on TV and his brain fell out accidentally for a second. It happens.

  • Anonymous

    I learned what causes the tidal patterns when I was in elementary school. Wow, thanks for showing your ignorance O’Reilly.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_A7KHDX6CSM5TLM6G77EHCIS5ZA Chuck W

    What concerns me is that even the aethist couldn’t explain it! The moon causes tides. Jesus, what the hell is being taught in our schools?

  • Anonymous

    I’m a Christian. I know what causes the tides. my brother is a retired Christian science teacher who believes in evolution.

    Blanket generalizations are rarely true. Bill O’Reilly is not representative of Christianity.

  • Anonymous

    All cancervatives are pro-ignorance.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t blame schools for cancervative pro-ignorance. Blame cancervatives for spreading their horse shit. They used to say the Earth was 4004 years old. However, the same King James Bible that “proved” the 4004 number now “proves” the number is really 6000 years. Teachers don’t sell lies, cancervatives do. Talk to them about this.

  • Anonymous

    He’s not showing ignorance, he’s selling it.

  • Anonymous

    He’s not stupid, but he knows his fans are. His job is to keep them that way.

  • Anonymous

    The problem is he didn’t “think.” He said he “believe[s]” climate change is a scam. To believe is to accept as true or take as true. To think is to use or exercise the mind in order to make a decision or arrive at a solution. So it’s kind of his religion to not believe it climate change.

  • Anonymous

    The problem is he didn’t “think.” He said he “believe[s]” climate change is a scam. To believe is to accept as true or take as true. To think is to use or exercise the mind in order to make a decision or arrive at a solution. So it’s kind of his religion to not believe it climate change.

  • Anonymous

    The problem is he didn’t “think.” He said he “believe[s]” climate change is a scam. To believe is to accept as true or take as true. To think is to use or exercise the mind in order to make a decision or arrive at a solution. So it’s kind of his religion to not believe it climate change.

  • Anonymous

    The problem is he didn’t “think.” He said he “believe[s]” climate change is a scam. To believe is to accept as true or take as true. To think is to use or exercise the mind in order to make a decision or arrive at a solution. So it’s kind of his religion to not believe it climate change.

  • Anonymous

    Bill O’Reilly re-establishes the tides foundation!
    He says that science doesn’t know what causes things to go in and out.
    But he’s really just proven the Law of Convservativation of Ignorance.
    Crazy, like a Fox.

  • Anonymous

    Bill O’Reilly re-establishes the tides foundation!
    He says that science doesn’t know what causes things to go in and out.
    But he’s really just proven the Law of Convservativation of Ignorance.
    Crazy, like a Fox.

  • Anonymous

    Bill O’Reilly re-establishes the tides foundation!
    He says that science doesn’t know what causes things to go in and out.
    But he’s really just proven the Law of Convservativation of Ignorance.
    Crazy, like a Fox.

  • http://twitter.com/Covert4Liberty Brimstone Hill

    O’Reilly……….The perpetual Charlatan.
    Always trying to put spin in the no spin zone.

  • http://twitter.com/Covert4Liberty Brimstone Hill

    O’Reilly……….The perpetual Charlatan.
    Always trying to put spin in the no spin zone.

  • http://twitter.com/Covert4Liberty Brimstone Hill

    O’Reilly……….The perpetual Charlatan.
    Always trying to put spin in the no spin zone.

  • http://twitter.com/Covert4Liberty Brimstone Hill

    O’Reilly……….The perpetual Charlatan.
    Always trying to put spin in the no spin zone.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3QIJ4LGZX6PZOJSD57QIC3NRAA Straw

    Even if that was true, you made my point for me.

    According to you, atheists have an invalid world view because they say something that they cannot prove is true, i.e. they say there is no god yet they can’t prove it.

    Here’s a little logic 101 -
    You can prove something doesn’t exist.

    For instance, there is no smallest rational number greater than zero. I’ll prove that.

    Let’s say there is a smallest rational number greater than zero. Call it X.
    I’ll now divide X by two – X/2.
    0 < X/2 < X.
    That blew away my initial premise.

    Conclusion: There is no smallest rational number greater than zero.

    Guess what? I just proved something doesn't exit.

    That's called Proof by Contradiction.

    Here's a little more remedial logic for you.

    "you cannot prove something does not exist" is statement that is a universal qualifier. All I need to disprove that statement is one counterexample. See where I proved something doesn't exist in the Proof by Contradiction.

    Make sure you know what you're talking about before calling someone an idiot. LOL

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3QIJ4LGZX6PZOJSD57QIC3NRAA Straw

    Even if that was true, you made my point for me.

    According to you, atheists have an invalid world view because they say something that they cannot prove is true, i.e. they say there is no god yet they can’t prove it.

    Here’s a little logic 101 -
    You can prove something doesn’t exist.

    For instance, there is no smallest rational number greater than zero. I’ll prove that.

    Let’s say there is a smallest rational number greater than zero. Call it X.
    I’ll now divide X by two – X/2.
    0 < X/2 < X.
    That blew away my initial premise.

    Conclusion: There is no smallest rational number greater than zero.

    Guess what? I just proved something doesn't exit.

    That's called Proof by Contradiction.

    Here's a little more remedial logic for you.

    "you cannot prove something does not exist" is statement that is a universal qualifier. All I need to disprove that statement is one counterexample. See where I proved something doesn't exist in the Proof by Contradiction.

    Make sure you know what you're talking about before calling someone an idiot. LOL

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3QIJ4LGZX6PZOJSD57QIC3NRAA Straw

    Even if that was true, you made my point for me.

    According to you, atheists have an invalid world view because they say something that they cannot prove is true, i.e. they say there is no god yet they can’t prove it.

    Here’s a little logic 101 -
    You can prove something doesn’t exist.

    For instance, there is no smallest rational number greater than zero. I’ll prove that.

    Let’s say there is a smallest rational number greater than zero. Call it X.
    I’ll now divide X by two – X/2.
    0 < X/2 < X.
    That blew away my initial premise.

    Conclusion: There is no smallest rational number greater than zero.

    Guess what? I just proved something doesn't exit.

    That's called Proof by Contradiction.

    Here's a little more remedial logic for you.

    "you cannot prove something does not exist" is statement that is a universal qualifier. All I need to disprove that statement is one counterexample. See where I proved something doesn't exist in the Proof by Contradiction.

    Make sure you know what you're talking about before calling someone an idiot. LOL

  • http://twitter.com/jerseyblueboy Karim Walker

    O’Reilly needs to be sentenced to a remedial 5th-grade science class…EPIC FAIL.

  • Anonymous

    What an unedifying five minutes. Whoever takes religion so seriously as to defend or even attack it is unbalanced. Arguing religion is like arguing what your favorite color is. Meaningless. Only psychiatrists should tackle the subject because this whole superstition, anti-superstition business is a matter of mental illness.

  • Anonymous

    The mystery is in Bill O’Reilly’s Loofah. All the secrets can be found in the Loofah. Bill will show you. Bill knows.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/RepublicConstitution?feature=mhum TruthRegimes

    Why would anyone pay attention to O’Really? He does nothing but spew venom and hatred. There are more mysteries in O’Really’s “mind” than any of us could ever count. http://republicconstitution.blogspot.com/

  • Anonymous

    steven webster—Rawstory– You sure put a lift wing slant on this story. Wow what sloppy reporting.

  • Anonymous

    “You can’t explain that. You can’t explain it.”

    O’Reilly isn’t telling his guest that it’s scientifically impossible to explain the tides and their causes.

    He’s telling his guest that he’s NOT ALLOWED to do so.

    It’s like an old stage magician getting bent out of shape with somebody “giving away” the secrets of prestidigitation.

    It’s like “religious leaders” withholding from their congregations the knowledge of their written language, knowledge which would allow those people to think for themselves.

    O’Reilly is reenacting a scene from a dusty old movie. He’s saying “pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.”

  • Anonymous

    “You can’t explain that. You can’t explain it.”

    O’Reilly isn’t telling his guest that it’s scientifically impossible to explain the tides and their causes.

    He’s telling his guest that he’s NOT ALLOWED to do so.

    It’s like an old stage magician getting bent out of shape with somebody “giving away” the secrets of prestidigitation.

    It’s like “religious leaders” withholding from their congregations the knowledge of their written language, knowledge which would allow those people to think for themselves.

    O’Reilly is reenacting a scene from a dusty old movie. He’s saying “pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.”

  • Anonymous

    Tides?
    Isn’t that Poseidon getting in and out of his bath tub?

  • Benway for the Nova Police

    Of all things, you would think the lune would understand the effects of his favorite satellite.

  • Benway for the Nova Police

    You think this story is slanted? You think the idiot really knows what causes the tides? You think it’s a liberal plot to make it look like he’s an idiot when he’s really a genius of the caliber of Einstein or Newton?

  • Benway for the Nova Police

    And don’t forget rain. No-one can explain rain either. How does all that water get UP IN THE SKY?!

  • Benway for the Nova Police

    And don’t forget the mystery of why Australians don’t fall off the earth!

  • Benway for the Nova Police

    No, actually, Bishop Usher’s figure was 4004 BC. Which would have made it slightly under 6000 years old when he wrote. For my take on where this all came from, see the following: http://neros.lordbalto.com/ChapterEight.htm

  • Anonymous

    Glad to see you took Real Analysis, but your comparison is invalid. It only works in a closed system whose properties are explicitly defined. Since your question inherently assumes that at least some properties of the universe are unknown, you are assuming the conclusion.

    It’s not even possible to demonstrate that objective reality even exists.

  • http://twitter.com/btmfdrsheaven rebecca meritt

    we argue while we still can argue,we went to kill Muslims Jews and Muslims are killing each other and Christians are being killed and we send the WORD all over the Earth by Evangelical loons and teenager are committing suicide and it’s all mental illness so glad you’re sane. insanity is the only way we can deal with it.

  • ComradeRutherford

    Remember, Fox News fires everybody that lies on the air!

    Which means that everything O’Really and Beck say MUST be true – because if it wasn’t they’d be fired – so it has to be true!

  • Anonymous

    O’Reilly: If you put bread in the toaster and it comes out brown, it’s because Jesus wants you to have toast, you pin head!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lon-Warneke/1409625620 Lon Warneke

    Apparently O’Reilly is actually the only clueless human being on this subject.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1432028332 Linda Williams

    It is even absurd that O brought this up. It served only one thing, to affirm his ignorance.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1432028332 Linda Williams

    Are you serious? Can you say evaporation?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lon-Warneke/1409625620 Lon Warneke

    Loony and Lunar are synonyms for O’Reilly.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lon-Warneke/1409625620 Lon Warneke

    No way…They’re caused by synchronized mass toilet flushing in opposing hemispheres.

  • http://twitter.com/MiddleAmericaMS MiddleAmericaMS

    Holy shit!

    How is Bill going to explain this away?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3QIJ4LGZX6PZOJSD57QIC3NRAA Straw

    Then the issue isn’t one of proof. The rules of logic are quite clear that you can prove something doesn’t exit. There is nothing in logic that says otherwise. If you could not prove a “not”, then modus tollens, for instance, is invalid. However, modus tollens is always valid.

    What is going on here is equivocation. We aren’t talking about an issue of proof. What’s being put forth is that there is a fundamental limitation in our data gathering abilities. That’s an epistemological issue. We are questioning if the premises are knowable. That doesn’t change the rules of logic.

    To top it off my point about atheist still stands.

  • Anonymous

    interesting – lunatics in denial about the existence of the moon.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3QIJ4LGZX6PZOJSD57QIC3NRAA Straw

    I wondering if this interview is edited for air or if there was some off air discussion. The AA member says, “It doesn’t matter if I can’t explain it.” He never mentions the moon or that there is a scientific explanation. Is he that stupid too? Or is this part of a more esoteric discussion we’re seeing out of context?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3QIJ4LGZX6PZOJSD57QIC3NRAA Straw

    I wondering if this interview is edited for air or if there was some off air discussion. The AA member says, “It doesn’t matter if I can’t explain it.” He never mentions the moon or that there is a scientific explanation. Is he that stupid too? Or is this part of a more esoteric discussion we’re seeing out of context?

  • http://www.balmorheaprogressive.blogspot.com/ BaileyWuXiang

    Buddhist tulkus have observed that dualism is the error of the West. Either/or, theism/atheism, black/white, right/wrong. http://allspirit.co.uk/hsinhsinming.html

  • http://www.balmorheaprogressive.blogspot.com/ BaileyWuXiang

    Buddhist tulkus have observed that dualism is the error of the West. Either/or, theism/atheism, black/white, right/wrong. http://allspirit.co.uk/hsinhsinming.html

  • http://www.balmorheaprogressive.blogspot.com/ BaileyWuXiang

    Bill O’Reilly having an esoteric discussion? LOL!

  • http://www.balmorheaprogressive.blogspot.com/ BaileyWuXiang

    Bill O’Reilly having an esoteric discussion? LOL!

  • Anonymous

    Bill O’Reilly…what a sick joke. Too bad there are people out there who actually take this guy seriously…talk about scary.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JAPLQWQM5UOSR56SP6MNPB2264 Bob

    How is observation of evolution repeatable and observation of climate change not?

    What does “I wont tell you the worst option of where ‘climate change comes from” mean?

    What does “…you may want to include (with reasonable assumptions) the effect of water vapor movement in current climate models” mean?

  • http://www.facebook.com/mejsmith Michael Smith

    Well, I am sure it is a mystery to Billo and his television fans.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gloria-Lynn/649311978 Gloria Lynn

    O’Reilly is a pin-headed idiot. Anyone who took science understands how oceanic tides work. Oh wait, that would let out anyone who watches FOX because they know nothing about science.

  • http://twitter.com/ozriotgrrl Melanie Madison

    and the world continues to laugh its ass off at the USA….well done Bill!

  • Anonymous

    O’Really, Is that so?!? . . .

  • Anonymous

    O’Really, Is that so?!? . . .

  • hounddogg

    “lift wing slant “…are you an astronaut?…wow, what sloppy commenting…

  • Anonymous

    Unbelievable stupidity.

  • Anonymous

    Unbelievable stupidity.

  • Anonymous

    Idiots are born and idiots die. Can you explain that one to me O’Really?

  • Anonymous

    Idiots are born and idiots die. Can you explain that one to me O’Really?

  • Anonymous

    “Everyone knows” the tides are caused by Neptune. When he ‘takes a leak’ you get high tide. When he “holds it in” you get low tide.
    I know this because I’m a graduate of Glenn Beck University™.
    P.S. The Earth is actually flat!

  • Anonymous

    “Everyone knows” the tides are caused by Neptune. When he ‘takes a leak’ you get high tide. When he “holds it in” you get low tide.
    I know this because I’m a graduate of Glenn Beck University™.
    P.S. The Earth is actually flat!

  • Whatever_happened_to_courtesy

    Just because HE can’t understand it does not mean that there is not AN explanation for it.

    Hundreds of years ago, people could not understand the seemingly backwards movement of several of the planets in the sky. We now know that this is caused by our relative positions in our orbits. It was actually thought that the planets changed direction and moved backwards then moved forwards again. Now we know it only seemed to move backwards. Knowledge is always evolving based on new evidence. Just because the evidence hasn’t been uncovered or correctly interpreted, doesn’t mean that it should be explained as magic or god or anything else. It is simply a current unknown.

    It is like gravity. It’s provable and measurable, but it doesn’t work at an atomic level. However, that doesn’t mean we’re being pulled down by god or pushed down by the flying spaghetti monster. It just means we haven’t comprehended all there is to know about quantum physics and gravity.

    Yes, they are just a theory, but given the right theory, we’ve been able to split the atom.

  • Taleisin

    And you know when trees sway?
    That’s what makes the wind!

  • Taleisin

    And you know when trees sway?
    That’s what makes the wind!

  • Anonymous

    Billo is a genius of the caliber of Newton. Fig Newton.

  • Anonymous

    Billo is a genius of the caliber of Newton. Fig Newton.

  • Taleisin

    Didn’t he work out the world was created on a tueday?
    The man was a genius.

  • Taleisin

    Didn’t he work out the world was created on a tueday?
    The man was a genius.

  • Anonymous

    But… but….but… The 2nd Court of Appeals said it was okay for Fox News to lie and call it news…

  • Whatever_happened_to_courtesy

    Like in a court of law, innocent until proven guilty. I have come to the conclusion that god does not exist until it is proven. I have seen no evidence to prove it. Therefore, I consider myself an atheist. Most atheists will probably agree with this statement. I simply don’t use the tern agnostic because it tends to depict a person who is waffling between “is there a god/ there isn’t a god.” If the term conveyed that I concede the possibility of a god, but don’t currently believe in one, then I’d use it.

    The burden of proof is on the person who makes fantastical claims. If someone said they could create a perpetual motion machine, you can bet I’d want to see proof.

    I don’t need to prove that unicorns don’t exist. A person who believes in them does.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YHVGE2V2HMBQEZ4O3C63KXDYNA Adam S

    We learned about the moon and tides in the 5th grade. Where did O’Reilly go to school? Did O’Reilly go to school? If he did, he was likely too busy shouting and not listening, just like he does now.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YHVGE2V2HMBQEZ4O3C63KXDYNA Adam S

    We learned about the moon and tides in the 5th grade. Where did O’Reilly go to school? Did O’Reilly go to school? If he did, he was likely too busy shouting and not listening, just like he does now.

  • Anonymous

    O’Reilly misspoke. What he meant to say was, “real”, “patriotic”, White Christian Americans KNOW for a FACT that it is GOD who causes the tides to come in, and causes the tides to go out.

  • Anonymous

    O’Reilly misspoke. What he meant to say was, “real”, “patriotic”, White Christian Americans KNOW for a FACT that it is GOD who causes the tides to come in, and causes the tides to go out.

  • Anonymous

    Are you serious? Can you say sarcasm?

  • Anonymous

    Are you serious? Can you say sarcasm?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3T7VECLRJCVK2Z327KVJILQH24 cameron

    lol there are people out there that still believe the earth is flat…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3T7VECLRJCVK2Z327KVJILQH24 cameron

    lol there are people out there that still believe the earth is flat…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3T7VECLRJCVK2Z327KVJILQH24 cameron

    Reminds me of Joe Dirt… “How exactly does the posi-trac rear end on a Plymouth work? It just does!”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3T7VECLRJCVK2Z327KVJILQH24 cameron

    Reminds me of Joe Dirt… “How exactly does the posi-trac rear end on a Plymouth work? It just does!”

  • Anonymous

    Years ago O’Reilly went on a rant saying Greenspan should have been fired or tarred and feathered for not warning the country that the stock market was going to crash and therefore allowing everyone to get out before they lost their money. I remember he had a guest who was an economist and presented that idea to him. The economist became incredulous and speechless and just started blubbering.

    O’Reilly is a tool. Not a very useful tool.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_PZPpWTRTU Bamboo_Harvester

    billo the Bully ~ the blood is caked on your hands it’s so thick…………
    Snoop; Serve it up “Fuck bill o’reilly”
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWDVpSUXHeM

  • Anonymous

    O’Reilly is like the Fundamentalists who think if they personally don’t know how something is, then God must magically make it happen. They can’t endure a few seconds of uncertainty in their life while they look something up.

  • Anonymous

    Well if a some people think the Earth is flat, then it must still be a controversy. Also everything science has gotten wrong compared to what the Bible says can be explained by optical illusion, instrument error, and the Devil tricking us.

  • Anonymous

    Well if a some people think the Earth is flat, then it must still be a controversy. Also everything science has gotten wrong compared to what the Bible says can be explained by optical illusion, instrument error, and the Devil tricking us.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah but, explain the rain!

  • Anonymous

    Yeah but, explain the rain!

  • Anonymous

    Of course the AA member would admit that “it doesn’t matter if they can explain” Because the AA member has to come to terms with powerlessness, things beyond their control. Esp. but not limited to their addiction. Mankind’s gravest error is trying to control their environment instead of accepting it and modifying their behavior and perceptions regarding it. So much that is requires no definition or interaction from mankind, and it’s being proven that much that mankind tries to interact with or controls he winds up destoying by not just letting it be.

  • http://www.tommyjonestheband.com RantingTommy

    wow, you are 100% WRONG

    atheism is the distinct ABSENCE of faith or religion

    faith is the belief in things you know are not true

  • http://www.tommyjonestheband.com RantingTommy

    once again, you spew the canard that atheism is a religion

    it’s not

    and you prove your ignorance by asserting so

  • http://www.tommyjonestheband.com RantingTommy

    you always parrot the right wing talking points, don’t ya, parrot?

  • http://www.tommyjonestheband.com RantingTommy

    grow up

    god is fiction

  • http://www.tommyjonestheband.com RantingTommy

    right wingers are binary thinkers

    they just are not equipped to deal with nuance

  • Anonymous

    Can anyone explain why bile rises in my throat whenever I hear this d-bag say anything?

  • Anonymous

    Well Bill’O you are not human and you can’t explain that either. Holy shit!

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/L5PHKRPFHK3LLTRDNVH2ZBIWOA Cal

    O’Reilly is clueless.

  • Anonymous

    Wait a minute, how does the TV work….

  • Anonymous

    He will chuckle and snort and get a bunch of butt lickers on his show to help him laugh at the silliness and say “I know the how the tides work I was just trying to make a point.” The fun will be in seeing Keith Olberman have his way Billy boy.

  • DesertSun59

    The first thing you notice during this interview is that O’Reilly won’t let the man talk. O’Reilly insists that the word ‘scam’ is the crux of the issue and that atheists are insulting religionists.

    And Mr. Silverman is absolutely correct. The churches are indeed filled with non-believers.

    Mr. O’Reilly once again ‘doesn’t understand’ the issue but won’t let the man explain it. So, it proves that Billo is only addressing his viewers and wants them to believe that he’s Tough For God (TM).

    Bravo, Billo. You just proved that religious belief is predicated on the most tenuous threads and nothing more.

  • Anonymous

    In the words of the b-52′s “there’s a moon in the sky, it is called the moon” and it controls the tides on our planet Bill ‘O.

    What a dumbass. Or maybe he was referring to the dumbasses that get all of their news from Faux. Their stupidity just staggers the imagination.

  • Anonymous

    In the words of the b-52′s “there’s a moon in the sky, it is called the moon” and it controls the tides on our planet Bill ‘O.

    What a dumbass. Or maybe he was referring to the dumbasses that get all of their news from Faux. Their stupidity just staggers the imagination.

  • Anonymous

    I think he does know — he was made briefly speechless by the magnitude of BO’s stupidity and then recovered as best he could. But, yeah, I would rather he had said, “Ever heard of a little thing called the moon, Bill?”

  • Anonymous

    I think he does know — he was made briefly speechless by the magnitude of BO’s stupidity and then recovered as best he could. But, yeah, I would rather he had said, “Ever heard of a little thing called the moon, Bill?”

  • Anonymous

    ahhh bill, still pushing teh stupid ball forward.

  • Anonymous

    ahhh bill, still pushing teh stupid ball forward.

  • Anonymous

    You would find Zeus rather than Thor on Mount Olympus. If you want to find Thor, Valhalla is probably a better place to look. Not that it is very significant for this story, though.

  • Anonymous

    You would find Zeus rather than Thor on Mount Olympus. If you want to find Thor, Valhalla is probably a better place to look. Not that it is very significant for this story, though.

  • Anonymous

    I’m pretty sure O’Reilly can’t explain in sufficient detail (including the physical equations) how how his voice gets from his studio out to radios and TVs all over the USA. Until he can explain that, there is no reason (following his own logic) why this isn’t a proof that Thor, Zeus and Allah exist.

    Now, that’s a thought … O’Reilly’s program as a proof of the existence of Allah …

  • Anonymous

    I’m pretty sure O’Reilly can’t explain in sufficient detail (including the physical equations) how how his voice gets from his studio out to radios and TVs all over the USA. Until he can explain that, there is no reason (following his own logic) why this isn’t a proof that Thor, Zeus and Allah exist.

    Now, that’s a thought … O’Reilly’s program as a proof of the existence of Allah …

  • Anonymous

    Where as I think Beck probably did vote for Obama and just figured out a sweet ass way to make money. I think O’Reilly is really just crazy and believes his own logic.

  • christoofar

    “Now, that’s a thought … O’Reilly’s program as a proof of the existence of Allah … ”

    you meant “loofah”, didn’t you?

  • Anonymous

    SOP for O’Lielly.

  • Anonymous

    O’Reilly who?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_R37UM43PITK7QU5SHTDWSU7SNA emme

    Is that your dog? What a cutie!!

  • Anonymous

    Look at this at the bottom of the article: “This video is from the Republican Fox News Channel, broadcast Jan. 4, 2010″…. Nice work.

    Hey, bill. Let’s anchor your ass out in bay and we will see how the tides work. This includes your asswipe kamera kkkrew.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe I cant explain the tidal effect of the moons gravity with hard arithmetic, but……
    If a prick like OReilly can have his own show, there must be a god.

  • Anonymous

    Reilly don’t know Jack Shit…

    That’s why he’s still searching.

  • Anonymous

    Well I’m looking at it right now and it’s flat here…

  • Anonymous

    Well I’m looking at it right now and it’s flat here…

  • Anonymous

    Logic?

  • Anonymous

    Logic?

  • Anonymous

    Nobody with a low IQ knows how they work. That group would include Bill O’Reilly.

  • Anonymous

    Nobody with a low IQ knows how they work. That group would include Bill O’Reilly.

  • Anonymous

    Up in the elevator down in the sky…

  • Anonymous

    Up in the elevator down in the sky…

  • Anonymous

    Oh great, I can’t wait for my mom to regurgitate this drivel. Soon the Earth’ll be flat and the sun will revolve around us with no explanation but god. Stop making my mother stupider O’Reilly and you too Beck!

  • Anonymous

    Oh great, I can’t wait for my mom to regurgitate this drivel. Soon the Earth’ll be flat and the sun will revolve around us with no explanation but god. Stop making my mother stupider O’Reilly and you too Beck!

  • Anonymous

    you need a course in Philo 101.

  • Anonymous

    you need a course in Philo 101.

  • Anonymous

    Where’s the argument? Bill “O” admitted he’s not the brightest guy in town!

  • Anonymous

    Well, now we know Oreilly considers himself “nobody”.

  • Anonymous

    I keep telling everybody -coming soon, the Dark Ages all over again.

  • Anonymous

    I think it’s the guy who started all those auto parts stores

  • http://thebrainpolice.blogspot.com microdot

    I think it was actually a sly use of the famously coy right wing version ironic humor.
    heh, heh, heh….

  • Anonymous

    Oh,it’s happening. There is a genuine fear of knowledge out there.

  • Anonymous

    Oh,it’s happening. There is a genuine fear of knowledge out there.

  • Anonymous

    Oh,it’s happening. There is a genuine fear of knowledge out there.

  • Anthony Wayne Walker

    Everybody knows Jesus makes the tides work. He does it with his hands somehow. He makes the high tide so poor people can launch their boats and go fishing and he makes the low tide so they can dig clams. That’s why they don’t need unemployment benefits or some over reaching government program like welfare. I’m sure Bill knows this but didn’t want to say. He probably didn’t want to make his viewers feel dumb.

  • Anthony Wayne Walker

    Everybody knows Jesus makes the tides work. He does it with his hands somehow. He makes the high tide so poor people can launch their boats and go fishing and he makes the low tide so they can dig clams. That’s why they don’t need unemployment benefits or some over reaching government program like welfare. I’m sure Bill knows this but didn’t want to say. He probably didn’t want to make his viewers feel dumb.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    Ahh, the Strawman argument guy peeps in on this topic, no surprise.

    You can “prove something” to be true, and until it is proven to be true, it is presumed to be false. You can never, however, prove a negative. I can not prove you can not fly, but you could possibly prove you can. Until you prove you can, I say you can’t. That’s not faith or a “belief”, that’s using logic, reason, physics, and all the other “knowledge” of the world we have available.

    There is no hard evidence supporting the xtian “god”, so I don’t believe in it. I don’t believe in Unicorns, either. Both could exist, but until there’s substantial ‘proof’, there’s no point in “dedicating your existence” to something that pretty much mimics “fantasy” and “fairy tale”.

    The shame you feel when confronted with the reality of a lack of “god” is on you, not “us”. You don’t want to admit you’ve been wrong, you don’t want to admit you’ve been duped, you don’t want to admit you’ve been a fool.. and you’re, at your core, ashamed to stick to your guns in the face of such obvious foolishness. I have no problem letting you believe what you want, but I have a problem with you trying to take your delusions and make them law governing me. Keep your fantasies to yourself and we’ll get along famously, try to make me live according to your delusion and we’ll have a problem.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    Ahh, the Strawman argument guy peeps in on this topic, no surprise.

    You can “prove something” to be true, and until it is proven to be true, it is presumed to be false. You can never, however, prove a negative. I can not prove you can not fly, but you could possibly prove you can. Until you prove you can, I say you can’t. That’s not faith or a “belief”, that’s using logic, reason, physics, and all the other “knowledge” of the world we have available.

    There is no hard evidence supporting the xtian “god”, so I don’t believe in it. I don’t believe in Unicorns, either. Both could exist, but until there’s substantial ‘proof’, there’s no point in “dedicating your existence” to something that pretty much mimics “fantasy” and “fairy tale”.

    The shame you feel when confronted with the reality of a lack of “god” is on you, not “us”. You don’t want to admit you’ve been wrong, you don’t want to admit you’ve been duped, you don’t want to admit you’ve been a fool.. and you’re, at your core, ashamed to stick to your guns in the face of such obvious foolishness. I have no problem letting you believe what you want, but I have a problem with you trying to take your delusions and make them law governing me. Keep your fantasies to yourself and we’ll get along famously, try to make me live according to your delusion and we’ll have a problem.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    Ahh, the Strawman argument guy peeps in on this topic, no surprise.

    You can “prove something” to be true, and until it is proven to be true, it is presumed to be false. You can never, however, prove a negative. I can not prove you can not fly, but you could possibly prove you can. Until you prove you can, I say you can’t. That’s not faith or a “belief”, that’s using logic, reason, physics, and all the other “knowledge” of the world we have available.

    There is no hard evidence supporting the xtian “god”, so I don’t believe in it. I don’t believe in Unicorns, either. Both could exist, but until there’s substantial ‘proof’, there’s no point in “dedicating your existence” to something that pretty much mimics “fantasy” and “fairy tale”.

    The shame you feel when confronted with the reality of a lack of “god” is on you, not “us”. You don’t want to admit you’ve been wrong, you don’t want to admit you’ve been duped, you don’t want to admit you’ve been a fool.. and you’re, at your core, ashamed to stick to your guns in the face of such obvious foolishness. I have no problem letting you believe what you want, but I have a problem with you trying to take your delusions and make them law governing me. Keep your fantasies to yourself and we’ll get along famously, try to make me live according to your delusion and we’ll have a problem.

  • Stina

    wow….Really Bill O’Reilly? REALLY?

    I’ll tell you what you and I can both prove together…..your Christian Science is the scam and making you dumber by the second.

  • Stina

    wow….Really Bill O’Reilly? REALLY?

    I’ll tell you what you and I can both prove together…..your Christian Science is the scam and making you dumber by the second.

  • Stina

    wow….Really Bill O’Reilly? REALLY?

    I’ll tell you what you and I can both prove together…..your Christian Science is the scam and making you dumber by the second.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    You can’t reason with this idiot. He’s a typical right-wing, fox news absorbing fool. He’s sure he can prove a negative, despite it being well established that you can’t. He has to take that position to hold up his incorrect view that not believing is still believing.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    You can’t reason with this idiot. He’s a typical right-wing, fox news absorbing fool. He’s sure he can prove a negative, despite it being well established that you can’t. He has to take that position to hold up his incorrect view that not believing is still believing.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    You can’t reason with this idiot. He’s a typical right-wing, fox news absorbing fool. He’s sure he can prove a negative, despite it being well established that you can’t. He has to take that position to hold up his incorrect view that not believing is still believing.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    It means he’s grasping at straws, and following the lead of manipulators and 1/2 truth tellers. Probably because he wants to continue shitting in his own nest because he’s bought into the notion that the more crap you have, the more money you wave around in people’s faces, the more value you have as a human being.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RT3XX4DFKZ2AD7JHO3D3PZ7G4M ChrisK

    Humans are clueless about 9/11

  • Anonymous

    Every knows

    They’re controlled through the Tides Foundation by George Soros

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/GQQIJ5U6H3BDGSXIMPCJSHHUPY Pee Pee

    This is genuinely disturbing. HOW IS BABBY FORMED?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    I think he’s referring to Beck lying on air and saying “you can’t lie on TV!!!! what I’m saying HAS to be true!”. The sick, sad part is.. some idiots believe that.. and they think 24 was a documentary.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    Ah, but why do they sway!? .. that must be god petting his creation.. his hands are big (and invisible), so to him billions of fur trees are soft.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMPOO3PZFN7XV2XZKCGSXXR3WM Joe Somebody

    You’re right.. its the atheist’s fault that we don’t still live in caves and cower from shadows. How wrong of us to have done that..

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J4R2P2BMMM5JTCYWGEU4YW6UWQ Dago T

    Gulf tides go out …

    Gulf tides come back in with oil …

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J4R2P2BMMM5JTCYWGEU4YW6UWQ Dago T

    Gulf tides go out …

    Gulf tides come back in with oil …

  • Ma’at

    DEAD wrong. The fact that I don’t believe in something that doesn’t exist (the Borrowers or a man in a teacup on the far side of the moon) is not a matter of faith one bit. It is not believing in something that doesn’t exist. Atheism isn’t a belief system any more than science is a belief system.

    The burden is on those claiming there is a god. You don’t prove a negative. Can’t be done. And here we sit … STILL no evidence of a God. I’m waiting.

  • Ma’at

    DEAD wrong. The fact that I don’t believe in something that doesn’t exist (the Borrowers or a man in a teacup on the far side of the moon) is not a matter of faith one bit. It is not believing in something that doesn’t exist. Atheism isn’t a belief system any more than science is a belief system.

    The burden is on those claiming there is a god. You don’t prove a negative. Can’t be done. And here we sit … STILL no evidence of a God. I’m waiting.

  • Ma’at

    The stupid, uneducated and moronic run our Country.

  • Ma’at

    The stupid, uneducated and moronic run our Country.

  • Anonymous

    less is expected from stupid people.

  • Anonymous

    less is expected from stupid people.

  • Anonymous

    Yep. Ol’ O’Really must not have had middle-school science, or flunked it. The tides are A MYSTERY? The man is absolutely ridiculous!

  • Anonymous

    Yep. Ol’ O’Really must not have had middle-school science, or flunked it. The tides are A MYSTERY? The man is absolutely ridiculous!

  • http://twitter.com/Jon_S Jon

    To be honest, I was disappointed that Silverman was unable to explain tides to O’Reilly. That was just begging to be rubbed in his face.

  • http://twitter.com/Jon_S Jon

    To be honest, I was disappointed that Silverman was unable to explain tides to O’Reilly. That was just begging to be rubbed in his face.

  • Anonymous

    I feel for you. It’s very difficult to discuss issues with anyone who is fed a steady diet of Faux News. But if it’s your mom, that’s even harder. Hang in there.

  • Anonymous

    I feel for you. It’s very difficult to discuss issues with anyone who is fed a steady diet of Faux News. But if it’s your mom, that’s even harder. Hang in there.

  • Anonymous

    I feel for you. It’s very difficult to discuss issues with anyone who is fed a steady diet of Faux News. But if it’s your mom, that’s even harder. Hang in there.

  • Anonymous

    Catholic school. The funny thing is, though, the Catholic Church does not disavow science or even aspects of evolution. Just goes to show you O’Reilly was asleep in class the day the nuns taught the gravitational pull of the moon.

  • Anonymous

    Catholic school. The funny thing is, though, the Catholic Church does not disavow science or even aspects of evolution. Just goes to show you O’Reilly was asleep in class the day the nuns taught the gravitational pull of the moon.

  • Anonymous

    Catholic school. The funny thing is, though, the Catholic Church does not disavow science or even aspects of evolution. Just goes to show you O’Reilly was asleep in class the day the nuns taught the gravitational pull of the moon.

  • Anonymous

    Guess I better not miss Keith tonight.

  • Anonymous

    Guess I better not miss Keith tonight.

  • Anonymous

    Guess I better not miss Keith tonight.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XBC5SFV5E34B5OVJ4YZB4TCEK4 yaheigh

    Bill O’Reilly showed he’s a doofus. Silverman missed a chance to go – “Actually, I can – its because…”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XBC5SFV5E34B5OVJ4YZB4TCEK4 yaheigh

    Bill O’Reilly showed he’s a doofus. Silverman missed a chance to go – “Actually, I can – its because…”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XBC5SFV5E34B5OVJ4YZB4TCEK4 yaheigh

    Bill O’Reilly showed he’s a doofus. Silverman missed a chance to go – “Actually, I can – its because…”

  • Anonymous

    The stunned look on Silverman’s face when O’Reilly said the tides were a mystery was priceless. I just wish Silverman would have mentioned that moon thing. He was a much more dignified guest that O’Reilly is a host, calling his guest a “loon.” Oh, that name-calling right wing!

  • Anonymous

    If you think tides are an unexplained mystery, perhaps you have no f…ing business working in the news industry. Wait, it’s ok. He doesn’t work in the news industry, he works for Fox.

    Whew.

  • Anonymous

    I recall him coming out with that, but I never got to ask if that was in the Julian or the Gregorian calendar. That would make a huge difference.

  • Anonymous

    Wow, I need to start doing that; save myself a lot of pain. lol.

  • Anonymous

    RE: “Also everything science has gotten wrong compared to what the Bible says can be explained by optical illusion, instrument error, and the Devil tricking us.” – overdoneputaforkinit
    MY REPLY: Don’t forget the Heisenberg uncertainty principle (as interpreted by the Coen brothers, or not)!
    Uncertainty principle – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncertainty_principle
    A Serious Man – Official Trailer (VIDEO, 01:41) – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FYtprwg1As
    Levinson talks about Coen Bros “A Serious Man” (VIDEO, 07:41) – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g27yvC8a1gw

  • Anonymous

    Agreed.

  • Anonymous

    Oh, watching Fox isn’t even the worse part. She rides around delivering the mail listening to O’Reilly and Beck ramble on about big government and socialism,all the while working a socialist gov’t job,while her loser boyfriend sits on the couch and collects SSI for a debilitating “injury”. She fails to realize she and her life is what she hates about our society. It’s astounding and tiring.

  • http://twitter.com/shivabeach Shiva

    the moon comes up, the moon goes down. The tides come in, the tides go out.

    I think Bill O’Reilly is trying to beat Sarah Palin in the stupid department. I’m not sure if he can do it but it will be close

  • http://twitter.com/shivabeach Shiva

    Doofus?

    so you are saying that Bill O’Reilly is actually Steve Doocey in a mask?

  • Taleisin

    Joe, because of your comment, I returned to this sight and actually watched the video.
    After the first minute of viewing, I was double face palming. It was painful and I feel a little violated. What a pair of Jackasses!

    If atheists do not want to spend eternity doing harp practice, that is fine with me. And they don’t seem to mind, my silly little made up theory of the universe, that keeps me happy. I am sure if god were Irish, he would invite them in for a drink anyway.

    I hope that IS his hand on the fur tree, and not some weird fetish thing!

  • Taleisin

    Joe, because of your comment, I returned to this sight and actually watched the video.
    After the first minute of viewing, I was double face palming. It was painful and I feel a little violated. What a pair of Jackasses!

    If atheists do not want to spend eternity doing harp practice, that is fine with me. And they don’t seem to mind, my silly little made up theory of the universe, that keeps me happy. I am sure if god were Irish, he would invite them in for a drink anyway.

    I hope that IS his hand on the fur tree, and not some weird fetish thing!

  • Anonymous

    Ah yes… the invisible hand of The Lord at work, moving water around for no apparent reason.

    I always wondered why these crackpots blame natural distaters on evildoers, and explain them as a punishment from their deity. Wouldn’t an all-powerful god be able to kill evildoers by simply stopping their hearts or exploding their heads, without requiring wind, water, disease, and (most importantly) collateral casualties…?

  • Anonymous

    Ah yes… the invisible hand of The Lord at work, moving water around for no apparent reason.

    I always wondered why these crackpots blame natural distaters on evildoers, and explain them as a punishment from their deity. Wouldn’t an all-powerful god be able to kill evildoers by simply stopping their hearts or exploding their heads, without requiring wind, water, disease, and (most importantly) collateral casualties…?

  • Scuby

    The sun comes up…the sun goes down. Nobody can explain it.

    It gets cold in winter, then hot in summmer.
    Nobody can explain it.

    Its dark with the light off, and not dark with the light on. Nobody can explain it.

    I eat a greasy hamburger one day, and the next day I’m pooping it out. Totally unexplainable.

    I cut myself accidentally and red stuff comes out.
    I don’t understand that either..Nobody does.

    If I don’t eat, I lose weight. Not even Einstein can figure that out.

    This is fun!

  • Anonymous

    Wow. You’re right. The situation is worse. Guess the concept of irony is alien to her, huh?

  • Anonymous

    Next he’ll be rolling back heliocentricity. Which means the round earth theory might as well go, too. Germ theory? He’s never seen one single ‘bug’ cause disease; therefore it must be God smiting the enemies of the house of Abraham. And electricity! Wind! Light!

    Who granted the followers of Jesus the ability to *interpret* God’s word as they see fit whenever it matches their needs? Isn’t that kind of equating one’s self with the Lord?

    Which brings up a few interesting bugs in the Christian meme:

    -The Prophet had to come from the house of Abraham, via paternal lines. Kinda tough to do with a virgin birth.
    -Pretty much everything in the OT was Jewish-centric (ie, “we” referred to Jews, “they” referred to non-Jews. “Thou Shalt Not Kill”…those in our tribe, was the intention, etc.). If the Jesus story (NT) was a correction of that, doesn’t it largely refute much of the scary OT stuff the evangelists, fundies and neocons claim as theirs to weild?
    -When are we as a culture going to start calling Christianists on their gross incompetence at following the teachings of Jesus? It should be proclaimed *everywhere* and every time they do something non-Jesus like.

    …and on it goes…

  • Anonymous

    When a MAN and WOMAN love each other very much, they decide to have a baby. Nine months later a STORK sent by GOD delivers it. They give it a good Godly name and teach it to not question any authority. Then they hand it over to the State/Church/Corporation and wait for the Social Security they’ll never get.

  • Anonymous

    When a MAN and WOMAN love each other very much, they decide to have a baby. Nine months later a STORK sent by GOD delivers it. They give it a good Godly name and teach it to not question any authority. Then they hand it over to the State/Church/Corporation and wait for the Social Security they’ll never get.

  • Anonymous

    Since he could walk on water, it must somehow be repelled by the bottoms of his feet. Ergo, Jesus sits on the floor of the ocean with his feet sticking out in front of him. When he faces one way, the water is pushed that way and the tide goes out. Then, he turns around…

  • Anonymous

    Since he could walk on water, it must somehow be repelled by the bottoms of his feet. Ergo, Jesus sits on the floor of the ocean with his feet sticking out in front of him. When he faces one way, the water is pushed that way and the tide goes out. Then, he turns around…

  • Anonymous

    Well, if you say so, but I’m not sure where it’s going. Philo 101, courtesy of wiki:

    “Philodendron is a large genus of flowering plants in the Araceae family, consisting of close to 900 or more species according to TROPICOS (a service of the Missouri Botanical Garden). Other sources quote different numbers of species. According to S.J. Mayo there are about 350-400 formally recognized species whereas according to Croat there are about 700.[1][2] Whichever the exact number of species, the genus is the second largest member of the arum family. Taxonomically the genus Philodendron is still poorly known, with many undescribed species. Many are grown as ornamental and indoor plants. The name derives from the Greek words philo or “love” and dendron or “tree”.”

    …Or did you really mean phyllo dough?

  • Anonymous

    Well, if you say so, but I’m not sure where it’s going. Philo 101, courtesy of wiki:

    “Philodendron is a large genus of flowering plants in the Araceae family, consisting of close to 900 or more species according to TROPICOS (a service of the Missouri Botanical Garden). Other sources quote different numbers of species. According to S.J. Mayo there are about 350-400 formally recognized species whereas according to Croat there are about 700.[1][2] Whichever the exact number of species, the genus is the second largest member of the arum family. Taxonomically the genus Philodendron is still poorly known, with many undescribed species. Many are grown as ornamental and indoor plants. The name derives from the Greek words philo or “love” and dendron or “tree”.”

    …Or did you really mean phyllo dough?

  • Anonymous

    No, it’s just the way the powers that be like ‘em. You mother is a true American and Patriot.

  • Anonymous

    No, it’s just the way the powers that be like ‘em. You mother is a true American and Patriot.

  • http://www.costarikker.blogspot.com Motelcalifornia

    Bill O’Reilly has a body mass index that is 75% amygdala and 25 percent is that big, fat head of his.

  • http://www.costarikker.blogspot.com Motelcalifornia

    Bill O’Reilly has a body mass index that is 75% amygdala and 25 percent is that big, fat head of his.

  • http://www.costarikker.blogspot.com Motelcalifornia

    Bill O’Reilly has a body mass index that is 75% amygdala and 25 percent is that big, fat head of his.

  • http://www.costarikker.blogspot.com Motelcalifornia

    I’t the Neanderthal Factor on Fox

  • http://www.costarikker.blogspot.com Motelcalifornia

    I’t the Neanderthal Factor on Fox

  • http://www.costarikker.blogspot.com Motelcalifornia

    I’t the Neanderthal Factor on Fox

  • cosliberal

    No one except every kid that ever took Earth Science or Physics in high school. Sorry Bill, perhaps you don’t know, or your deluded home schooled fans don’t know, but most people do know how tides work.

  • cosliberal

    No one except every kid that ever took Earth Science or Physics in high school. Sorry Bill, perhaps you don’t know, or your deluded home schooled fans don’t know, but most people do know how tides work.

  • cosliberal

    No one except every kid that ever took Earth Science or Physics in high school. Sorry Bill, perhaps you don’t know, or your deluded home schooled fans don’t know, but most people do know how tides work.

  • cosliberal

    No one except every kid that ever took Earth Science or Physics in high school. Sorry Bill, perhaps you don’t know, or your deluded home schooled fans don’t know, but most people do know how tides work.

  • dk504

    You are a genius. Are you a Ivy Leaguer???

  • dk504

    You are a genius. Are you a Ivy Leaguer???

  • dk504

    You are a genius. Are you a Ivy Leaguer???

  • dk504

    You are a genius. Are you a Ivy Leaguer???

  • Anonymous

    Even a few of us people who believe in God know how tides work. If this weren’t so fah king depressing, it would be funny.

  • Anthony Wayne Walker

    What are you some kind of Scientist? Or are you divinely inspired with this secret knowledge? It’s got to be one or the other. I don’t think you should be posting this information, I don’t think it was meant for the masses. It’s all supposed to be a mystery, but you might be able to answer this question that’s been driving me nuts for years: How can a guy who can make the heavens and earth, walk on water, run the tides, raise from the dead not be able to balance a check book? I see his representatives on TV all night long begging for money to finance his operation. What’s up with that?

  • Anthony Wayne Walker

    What are you some kind of Scientist? Or are you divinely inspired with this secret knowledge? It’s got to be one or the other. I don’t think you should be posting this information, I don’t think it was meant for the masses. It’s all supposed to be a mystery, but you might be able to answer this question that’s been driving me nuts for years: How can a guy who can make the heavens and earth, walk on water, run the tides, raise from the dead not be able to balance a check book? I see his representatives on TV all night long begging for money to finance his operation. What’s up with that?

  • Anonymous

    If Bill O says no one knows, then no one knows. He will tell you himself that he is NEVER wrong. If you don’t agree then, Shut Up! You hate America and should be Executed.

    (or maybe molested with a loofah…….)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EWHKSZUWHEPNVWTV7OQOZESQIQ D.

    C’mon, Mr. O’Reilly: just because you have no explanation for why you grow hair on your chest and start howling every full moon doesn’t mean the rest of us are so clueless.

  • 1984

    a.k.a “I don’t know how to explain this so I’ll just say God did it”

  • Scuby

    Yeah..I graduated from Yale in 1968. GW Bush was my roomate. We studied together all the time, but he was much smarter than me, cause he knew how tides work. Probably still does.

  • alfredo

    Bill O’Riley should speak for himself and, oh well, if they have no objections, for teapartiers and the likes of Sarah P., Glenn Beck etc. But please do leave the rest of us out of it.
    It’s very difficult to get a man to understand something when his pay check depends on him not understanding it.

  • alfredo

    It’s because of people like him that only 47% of Americans understand evolution. Ocean tides probably has more to do with geological evolution than anything else.

  • alfredo

    Maybe that’s why so many commercial contracts and insurance policies say “act of God” where people in other countries use the term, universally accepted, force majeure.

  • alfredo

    Maybe that’s why so many commercial contracts and insurance policies say “act of God” where people in other countries use the term, universally accepted, force majeure.

  • alfredo

    Maybe that’s why so many commercial contracts and insurance policies, in this country say “act of God” where people in other countries use the term, universally accepted, force majeure.

  • alfredo

    Maybe that’s why so many commercial contracts and insurance policies, in this country say “act of God” where people in other countries use the term, universally accepted, force majeure.

  • Anonymous

    At least he didn’t wonder if an island could tip over if too many people stood on one side. Do you Liberal geeks realize that most of us conservative thinkers are embarassed by people like Bill O’Reilly? He is not our standard bearer. BTW I have spent nearly half a mature lifetime studying physics, metaphyisics and even nuclear physics and I cannot explain gravity. I only know it works.

  • Anonymous

    At least he didn’t wonder if an island could tip over if too many people stood on one side. Do you Liberal geeks realize that most of us conservative thinkers are embarassed by people like Bill O’Reilly? He is not our standard bearer. BTW I have spent nearly half a mature lifetime studying physics, metaphyisics and even nuclear physics and I cannot explain gravity. I only know it works.

  • E_A_Blair

    “In short, oceanic tides are caused by the moon’s rotation around the earth”

    The moon doesn’t rotate around the earth, it revolves around it. The earth does not rotate around the sun, it revolves around it. Rotation is the planetary motion that causes diurnal cycles (i.e., day and night). Perhaps Mr. Webster got confused by the fact that the moon’s period of rotation and period of revolution are the same. Naah, he was just sloppy.

    Silverman was wrong, too. Everyone knows Thor lives in Asgard. There is no exact Olympian equivalent. If there were, it would be a cross between Hephaistos and Zeus.

  • E_A_Blair

    So you can’t explain gravity. Nobody can…yet. So what do you do – do you say “God does it” or do you put it on the shelf with the other things that have yet to be explained. Is your faith in a sky spirit or in the expectation that someday an explanation will be found?

  • Anonymous

    Actually, he was only born poor. His ministry was quite wealthy. People only know what they want to know, though.

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  • http://www.zazzle.com/InfinitudeTortoises* An Infinitude of Tortoises

    “Do you Liberal geeks realize that most of us conservative thinkers are embarassed by people like Bill O’Reilly?”

    O’really? How do you account for the fact that “The O’Reilly Factor” remains the nation’s most-watched cable “news” (ahem) show? Does his vast audience derive from embarrassed conservatives? Nauseated liberals? Legions of orgasmic Tea Partiers, perhaps? Or does he owe his unrivaled popularity to a great groundswell of preschoolers expressing their solidarity with his level of scientific sophistication?

    Is this something you can explain?

  • Anonymous

    It wasn’t gravity O’Reilly claimed not to understand, it was tides.

  • Anonymous

    He’s a very useful tool to Roger Ailes.

  • Anonymous

    Okay. Let me explain. Modern scientific theory suggests that the rise and fall of the oceanic tides are the result of the gravitational influence of the Moon and also the Sun upon the Earth’s waters. Measurements tend to confirm this theory. Look it up in your Astronomy 101 text book

    Now, if you can explain just how gravity works, then you are smarter than Einstein or any other physicist who has ever lived. Gravity is what it is, whether or not it is the result of a Diivine scheme.

    Mr. O’Reilly may be ignorant of Science. Maybe he is even stupid; I do not know. What I do know is that trying to picture any person who is of a conservative bent as stupid or ignorant because O’Reilly made some absurd statement on Television is wrong. Hence my reference to the liberal Democrat congessman who believes that Guam would tip over if too many people stood on the island. Maybe you missed that story.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VBIOJW7ECM54D67XCFBUHM4MX4 Jim

    I thought that Einstein showed gravity was curvature of the four dimensional pseudo-Riemannian manifold we live in. Just a tensor, really. Not so big a deal. Perhaps the Levi-Civita connection confused me. Oh, well, silly me. And I didn’t think it was such a mystery after all. Maybe all that differential geometry used to express it is just too difficult for me to get. I guess I need to go back to some old reference like Hawking and Ellis The large scale structure of space-time. Or maybe some newer reference makes it a mystery. There is an article about general relativity in the latest Bulletin of the American Mathematical Society. Maybe I will look in there for a mystery.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VBIOJW7ECM54D67XCFBUHM4MX4 Jim

    I thought that Einstein showed gravity was curvature of the four dimensional pseudo-Riemannian manifold we live in. Just a tensor, really. Not so big a deal. Perhaps the Levi-Civita connection confused me. Oh, well, silly me. And I didn’t think it was such a mystery after all. Maybe all that differential geometry used to express it is just too difficult for me to get. I guess I need to go back to some old reference like Hawking and Ellis The large scale structure of space-time. Or maybe some newer reference makes it a mystery. There is an article about general relativity in the latest Bulletin of the American Mathematical Society. Maybe I will look in there for a mystery.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TA4FKBGNF4OWQSC5UHFWK2LDOY Ghost Ornamental

    i’d never have guessed bill o’reilly had so much in common with insane clown posse.

    fuckin’ tidal movements, how do they work?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TA4FKBGNF4OWQSC5UHFWK2LDOY Ghost Ornamental

    i’d never have guessed bill o’reilly had so much in common with insane clown posse.

    fuckin’ tidal movements, how do they work?

  • http://blogs.995themountain.com/mcasey/2011/01/07/bill-oreillys-credo-speak-loudly-even-if-you-lack-the-knowledge-to-back-up-what-youre-saying/ 99.5 The Mountain » Bill O’Reilly’s Credo: Speak Loudly Even If You Lack The Knowledge To Back Up What You’re Saying

    [...] goes in, then it goes out. … You can’t explain that. You can’t explain it.” Of course, Raw Story points out, people who passed high school science might tell you that tides are caused by the [...]

  • Anonymous

    Yes, we know a lot about what gravity does and we can measure its effect and calculate results, but at the quantum level gravity does not work. You know that. Neither Einstein nor Hawking have explained the paradox. Simply put, we know what gravity does but we cannot explain why. In that sense it is a mystery. This fact does not imply the existence of a Supreme Being. We do not disagree on this issue.

    Where we disagree is in the assumption that if Bill O’Reilly is ignorant, then ALL conservative thinkers are also ignorant. Got it?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JRBJ4PCICLE2LKWF2USZSQWGG4 Jim

    He’s showing the depth of his Harvard education.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JRBJ4PCICLE2LKWF2USZSQWGG4 Jim

    He’s showing the depth of his Harvard education.

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  • http://twitter.com/barbaraburton barbaraburton

    ” Do you Liberal geeks realize that most of us conservative thinkers are embarassed by people like Bill O’Reilly? He is not our standard bearer.”
    No, I don’t think we do because these are the people out front. these are the people with the most popularity and the largest audience. so if most “conservative thinkers” (an oxymoron if I ever saw one) are embarassed by them….why do you watch?

  • http://twitter.com/barbaraburton barbaraburton

    ” Do you Liberal geeks realize that most of us conservative thinkers are embarassed by people like Bill O’Reilly? He is not our standard bearer.”
    No, I don’t think we do because these are the people out front. these are the people with the most popularity and the largest audience. so if most “conservative thinkers” (an oxymoron if I ever saw one) are embarassed by them….why do you watch?

  • http://twitter.com/barbaraburton barbaraburton

    ” Do you Liberal geeks realize that most of us conservative thinkers are embarassed by people like Bill O’Reilly? He is not our standard bearer.”
    No, I don’t think we do because these are the people out front. these are the people with the most popularity and the largest audience. so if most “conservative thinkers” (an oxymoron if I ever saw one) are embarassed by them….why do you watch?

  • Wyrdless

    He went to Harvard and he doesn’t know about tidal movement?

    WOW

  • Wyrdless

    Heliocentricity?
    Why stop there. Can anyone really PROVE the earth is a sphere?

    We need O’Reilly to weigh in on this issue
    http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=38615.0

  • http://harry-canary.myopenid.com/ Harry Canary

    Who would win a race between Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and the CONservative thinker??

    None of them, they are all mythical characters

  • http://harry-canary.myopenid.com/ Harry Canary

    Who would win a race between Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and the CONservative thinker??

    None of them, they are all mythical characters

  • http://harry-canary.myopenid.com/ Harry Canary

    Who would win a race between Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and the CONservative thinker??

    None of them, they are all mythical characters

  • http://harry-canary.myopenid.com/ Harry Canary

    Who would win a race between Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and the CONservative thinker??

    None of them, they are all mythical characters

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VUFNR43XLQYZMHGMIU2MUNCVI4 John

    to realize you don’t know is the first step to all real knowledge. Religion side step and uses acceptance by faith.. I can’t see how not knowing the source of gravity is a litmus test for religion.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t watch O’Reilly. I only know what he says when you Liberal Geeks repeat it. I have an intelligence all my own. Believe it or not.

  • Anonymous

    I, as a true fiscal conservative, wish Bill O’reilly would go away. His ruminations on how the world works are the result of ignorance and perhaps downright stupidity. This does not make conservatism wrong or liberalism correct.

    Read more, people.

  • Anonymous

    The moon is slowly moving from Earth’s orbit. Eventually it will move far enough out that it will no longer have an effect on the Earth’s oceans. So in the distant future there will no longer be any tides. Does that mean Bill’s god will be dead?

  • Anonymous

    The moon is slowly moving from Earth’s orbit. Eventually it will move far enough out that it will no longer have an effect on the Earth’s oceans. So in the distant future there will no longer be any tides. Does that mean Bill’s god will be dead?

  • http://squirrelqueen.wordpress.com/2011/01/07/the-moon-and-the-tides/ The Moon and the Tides | The Squirrel Queen

    [...] begins here > So I’m reading that Bill O’Reilly doesn’t understand why the tides roll in and out. Ask any sixth-grader. It’s the moon’s gravitational pull, or is “science” [...]

  • http://www.worldspinner.us/bill-o-reilly World Spinner

    Humans are clueless on cause of oceanic tides, Bill O'Reilly ……

    Here at World Spinner we are debating the same thing……

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VBIOJW7ECM54D67XCFBUHM4MX4 Jim

    The fact that the theories of general relativity and quantum mechanics do not work together is not a paradox. That you think it is tells me you don’t understand logic. There is no paradox to explain. Maxwell’s E&M and Newton’s mechanics didn’t work together and that led to special relativity (and you can derive special relativity directly from Maxwell’s theory: it has to do with group invariance of field equations). No paradox there either. Just incomplete theories. Which will always be the case in science.

    Why gravity does something is not a question. To ask why of something like that is to assume there is more than how. There isn’t. You have to be a God-intoxicated loony to ask why there is gravity. Why is there air? That is an example of a syntactically correct string of words and punctuation without semantic content. Why implies will and is meaningless to ask of natural events. It is akin to asking what happens when an irrestible force meets an immovable object. That is semantically vapid and a paradox.

    This nonsense of yours about the paradox and mystery of gravity is like wondering why there is a square root of two. You can’t see it. No one can write it down in any integer expansion. So it must be a mystery. That must mean there is a god, the existence (in what sense?) of something that cannot ever be fully revealed. Sweet mystery of life!

    Einstein explained gravity as a curvature tensor. It is the curvature of space-time due to mass. He talks about all that in his little book The Meaning of Relativity in pretty simple terms (though one still runs across tensors, but not connections as I recall) and nowhere is there mystery or the need for god. In fact, Einstein didn’t believe in the Judaeo-Xian god. He said so explicitly. And the tides are a natural phenomenon that is well understood.

  • http://www.painomovers.com/2011/01/yet-more-friday-humor/ PainoMovers » YET MORE friday humor

    [...] Humans are clueless on cause of oceanic tides, Bill O’Reilly claims [...]

  • Anonymous

    You cannot explain gravity because no one yet has explained it.

  • Anonymous

    You cannot explain gravity because no one yet has explained it.

  • Wyrdless

    I would hope so, as a true fiscal conservative you must HATE the unwinnable
    and useless war which Bill O’Reilly is pushing.

  • Wyrdless

    I would hope so, as a true fiscal conservative you must HATE the unwinnable
    and useless war which Bill O’Reilly is pushing.

  • Anonymous

    Really, how can anyone take anything seriously Bill says on his program?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C5AKM2QTHZAE267QH6T4N2TYLM Psychedelic

    Two minutes in, exactly, is the look I had on my face, as well, when I watched it.

    I have the same look on my face often when I discuss things with people here in Kentucky.

    Reinforces my view that many people are just hats for their ass.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C5AKM2QTHZAE267QH6T4N2TYLM Psychedelic

    Two minutes in, exactly, is the look I had on my face, as well, when I watched it.

    I have the same look on my face often when I discuss things with people here in Kentucky.

    Reinforces my view that many people are just hats for their ass.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C5AKM2QTHZAE267QH6T4N2TYLM Psychedelic

    Two minutes in, exactly, is the look I had on my face, as well, when I watched it.

    I have the same look on my face often when I discuss things with people here in Kentucky.

    Reinforces my view that many people are just hats for their ass.

  • http://elliottcmorgan.com/bill-oreilly-aint-that-dumb-yall/ Bill O’Reilly Ain’t That Dumb, Ya’ll : Elliott Morgan : Actor, Author, Blogger

    [...] All the cool kids that spend time on the Internet gobbling up useless pieces of information got a sweet surprise the other day: Bill O’Reilly attempted to prove God’s existence by citing the mystery of the tides. [...]

  • http://mrtopp.com/2011/01/10/the-morningn-coffee-cats-moons-and-frauds/ Mr. Topp and the Big Bad Blog » The morningn coffee, cats, moons and frauds

    [...] News is, at times, painfully funny in its ignorance. For instance, Bill O’Reilly is apparently unaware that tides are caused by the moon, and insists that it cannot be [...]

  • http://nuclearwar2012.com/why-you-should-be-concerned-about-december-21-2012_285.htm ancient civilizations, december 21 2012 | will there be a nuclear war in 2012 ?

    [...] change — when the truth is, life as we know it has never STOPPED changing.  Can everybody be wrong? Will the Further you can see this related post: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/01/bill-oreilly-claims-explain-oceanic-tides/ [...]

  • http://www.workingexample.com/566/ Bill Maher lashes out at “Teabaggers” identification with “Founding Fathers” | Working Example

    [...] O’Reilly, a conservative pundit for FoxNews, in an argument with an atheist activist recently claimed that the cause of the oceanic tides remains a mystery to humans. [...]

  • http://ctrlzworld.org/2011/01/bill-maher-lashes-out-at-%e2%80%98teabaggers%e2%80%99-identification-with-%e2%80%98founding-fathers%e2%80%99/ Bill Maher lashes out at ‘Teabaggers’ identification with ‘Founding Fathers’ | ctrlZworld

    [...] O’Reilly, a conservative pundit for FoxNews, in an argument with an atheist activist recently claimed that the cause of the oceanic tides remains a mystery to humans. [...]

  • http://twitter.com/DrMatthew Dr. Matt

    Teabaggers are too busy worshiping the even more obtuse Glenda to care about O’Racist

  • http://breakingnewssearch.com/clueless-2/ Clueless

    [...] Humans are clueless on cause of oceanic tides, Bill O’Reilly claims – Raw Story He made the revealing statement during a recent segment of The O’Reilly Factor while challenging Dave Silverman, president of a group called ” American Atheists .” That same organization was responsible for a billboard in Huntsville, Alabama that calls out … Jan 12, 2011 3:18pm [...]

  • http://www.palehosed.com/stump/13301-bill-maher-rips-teabaggers-identification-founding-fathers.html#post546891 Bill Maher rips TeaBaggers identification with Founding Fathers

    [...] [...]

  • http://chasdarwin.wordpress.com/2011/01/18/a-tip-of-the-hat-to-bill-oreilly/ A Tip of the Hat to Bill O’Reilly! « Freethought

    [...] goes in, then it goes out. … You can’t explain that. You can’t explain it.” Of course, Raw Story points out, people who passed high school science might tell you that tides are caused by the [...]

  • http://politicalirony.com/2011/02/09/bill-oreilly-apparently-believes-in-god-because-he-flunked-science/ Political Irony › Bill O’Reilly apparently believes in God because he flunked science

    [...] a list of the stupidest things that O’Reilly claims cannot be explained. For example, the tides: I’ll tell you why [religion is] not a scam, in my opinion. Tide goes in, tide goes out. [...]