Rep. Gabrielle Giffords among 19 shot outside Tucson grocery store

By Stephen C. Webster
Saturday, January 8, 2011 13:57 EST
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FINAL UPDATE: 8:44 PM EST

Police: Suspect may not have acted alone, arrived at store with someone else

Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ) was shot Saturday during a public event outside a Tucson, Arizona grocery store.

Local law enforcement initially said she was killed in the attack, according to NPR and CNN, but moments after those reports a surgeon on the scene told MSNBC that she was still alive but in critical condition. CNN later redacted its report, as did Raw Story.

“We just heard that she is responding to commands. She made it through surgery,” Linda Lopez, Arizona state senator, told FoxNews.

Giffords is expected to live, according to Tucson’s deputy city manager, MSNBC reported.

She was among 19 people shot, including a federal judge, by alleged gunman Jared Loughner, 22, according to Pima County Sheriff’s Dept. So far, six have died from wounds sustained in the sudden attack, according to published reports.

During a mid-afternoon hospital press conference, a surgeon confirmed that 10 people were brought to the hospital, five were in critical condition; five went in for operations. Four of the victims are listed in stable condition.

The doctor said he was “very optimistic” about Giffords’ recovery. He explained that she was shot through the brain. One person – a nine-year-old child – died, he added.

US District Court Judge John M. Roll reportedly died in the incident; his reason for attendance is unclear at this time. An aide to Giffords was also reported dead.

The Tucson Citizen reported that she’d been shot point-blank in the head with a pistol with extended magazine. Giffords had been staging a “Congress on Your Corner” event outside a Safeway grocery store. Members of Giffords staff were among those reportedly injured.

The suspect – Jared Loughner – was described by witnesses as a young man in his late teens or early 20s who looked like a “fringe character.” He reportedly made his way behind her and shot her at very close range. He has been taken into custody after losing ammunition and detained by Giffords’ aides.

Loughner attempted to flee after running out of ammunition but was blocked by one of Giffords’ staffers. His MySpace page was removed; however, a YouTube account under his name is still online with three text-only videos, the first of which introduces him.

The Associated Press reported that Loughner had no other help. The gun authorities recovered at the scene is a 9mm Glock pistol.

The Pima County Sheriff’s Department said that up to 12 people were injured in the incident, and a witness told CNN they heard up to 20 gunshots.

“One Democratic source tells me shooter called out names of people as aiming at targets,” Ed Espinoza, DNC Western States Political Director, Latino Workgroup and Vets Council staff, tweeted Saturday afternoon.

Giffords, 40, took her seat in Congress in 2007 and has advocated for immigration reform, among other Democratic-led issues. She was among 20 members of Congress who were on former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin’s so-called “hit list,” depicted in a graphic online with targeting crosshairs over their individual districts, still viewable on her Facebook page.

“Palin has crosshairs on our district; people have to realize there are consequences to that,” Giffords told MSNBC.

The website for Palin’s PAC appeared to have withdrawn the crosshairs over Giffords’ name today. The former vice president candidate also posted her “condolences” to the victims on her Facebook page.

“My sincere condolences are offered to the family of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and the other victims of today’s tragic shooting in Arizona,” she wrote. “On behalf of Todd and my family, we all pray for the victims and their families, and for peace and justice.”

The former US Marine that ran against Giffords who used violent imagery in campaign ads also expressed his sympathy for his political opponent.

“We are all deeply saddened by this morning’s shooting. Gabrielle Giffords, the other victims, and their families are in our prayers,” Jesse Kelly said in a tweet.

President Barack Obama in an early statement called the shooting “an unspeakable tragedy.”

“We do not yet have all the answers,” he said. “What we do know is that such a senseless and terrible act of violence has no place in a free society. I ask all Americans to join me and Michelle in keeping Representative Giffords, the victims of this tragedy, and their families in our prayers.”

Obama, during a White House press conference, said he ordered FBI director Robert Mueller, to Tucson to coordinate an investigation into the attack.

“We are going to get to the bottom of this, and we are going to get through this,” he said.

In a statement hours after the shooting, Rep. John Boehner (R-Ohio), newly-elected Speaker of the House, said: “An attack on one who serves is an attack on all who serve. Acts and threats of violence against public officials have no place in our society. Our prayers are with Congresswoman Giffords, her staff, all who were injured, and their families. This is a sad day for our country.”

Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), the former House speaker, said through a spokesperson that she would still hold her scheduled event today.

“The U.S. Capitol Police are directly involved in this investigation,” Pelosi’s office said in an advisory. “As more information is developed, it will be provided.”

Capitol Police warned lawmakers to guard themselves with “reasonable and prudent precautions” in light of the Tucson shooting. Specific precautions were not expounded upon in the advisory.

Calling the attack “senseless,” Sen. Mitch McConnell, (R-Ky.), said, ”I join the entire Congress in condemning this horrifying act of violence.”

Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) stated that he was “horrified by the violent attack” and lashed out at the suspected shooter.

“Whoever did this; whatever their reason, they are a disgrace to Arizona, this country and the human race, and they deserve and will receive the contempt of all decent people and the strongest punishment of the law,” he said.

Janet Napolitano, the secretary of homeland security, said in a press advisory that in 2009, Judge Roll was a target of death threats fueled by radio talks shows due to a civil rights lawsuit over which he presided.

“The threats materialized after one show, Judge Roll’s name logged more than 200 phone calls as some callers threatened the judge and his family,” she said. “This resulted in the judge and his wife were under a protection detail for one month as Judge Roll was given twenty four hours a day, seven days a week security by the US Marshals Service.

She continued, “An US Attorney’s investigation ruled that four men were identified as threat makers, but no charges were filed.”

Giffords appeared on Fox News Friday yesterday to promote her proposal to have Congress cut their pay by five percent. Giffords’ husband Mark Kelly – who is a commander in training for an April space shuttle mission – flew to be at her side Saturday afternoon.

Rep. Raul Grijalva (D-AZ), who experienced a shooting at his Yumma office this past July after he called for a boycott over Arizona for its strict immigration law, told a Tuscon TV station that he was “fightened” by today’s violence.

“We all enter this life of public service and being elected officials,” he said. “We don’t enter it believing that it’s a life and death situation. And to reach this point where we have peoples’ lives hanging by a thread, and having someone with as much potential and intelligence and future.”

Grijalva added, “To be in this situation it’s completely frightening. I’m still in shock about this situation.”

Although Giffords had received threats last year, the rabbi that married her to her husband, said that Giffords never spoke of any personal safety concerns.

“No fear. I’ve only seen the bravest possible, most intelligent young congresswoman,” Rabbi Stephanie Aaron told the New York Times. “I feel like this is really one of those proverbial — seemingly something coming out of nowhere.”

Giffords father told the New York Post that he knew his daughter had enemies.

“The whole tea party,” Spencer Gifford, 75, said.

Rep. Giffords’ staff in August 2009 called police after a handgun was dropped at one of her town-hall meetings. In March, vandals broke into her Tucson office after she voted for Obama’s health care reform package.

“The rhetoric is incredibly heated, not just the calls but the emails, the slurs,” she told MSNBC then. “Things have really gotten spun up.”

She continued: “We do have these polarized parts of our parties that really get excited, and that’s where … all of us have to come together and say, ‘OK, there’s a fine line here.’”

Jan Brewer, the governor of Arizona, ordered the state’s flags to be at half staff in honor of shooting victims.

Candlelight vigils were also scheduled Saturday evening in Tucson and Washington, D.C.

Initial report by Stephen C. Webster. Updates by Nathan Diebenow and Stephen C. Webster.

Stephen C. Webster
Stephen C. Webster
Stephen C. Webster is the senior editor of Raw Story, and is based out of Austin, Texas. He previously worked as the associate editor of The Lone Star Iconoclast in Crawford, Texas, where he covered state politics and the peace movement’s resurgence at the start of the Iraq war. Webster has also contributed to publications such as True/Slant, Austin Monthly, The Dallas Business Journal, The Dallas Morning News, Fort Worth Weekly, The News Connection and others. Follow him on Twitter at @StephenCWebster.
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  • Anonymous

    Sounds like somebody was listening to too much talk radio.

  • Anonymous

    Sounds like somebody was listening to too much talk radio.

  • jim

    wow. i hope that they take glen beck off of the air since this is probably one of his minions.

  • Anonymous

    GOP generated violence. They started all this crazy fucking bullshit.

  • Anonymous

    GOP generated violence. They started all this crazy fucking bullshit.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WOF6ZCKUUJDNLYWIGKEK3E5HFU B

    Fox News is reporting? More likely that Fox News is excited – because they’re the ones encouraging this kind of behavior!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WOF6ZCKUUJDNLYWIGKEK3E5HFU B

    Fox News is reporting? More likely that Fox News is excited – because they’re the ones encouraging this kind of behavior!

  • Anonymous

    OK IT BEGINS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    BECK, HANNITY, LIMBAUGH AND THE LOT

    TIME FOR THE HATE MONGERS TO BE THROWN OFF THE AIR AND THROWN IN PRISON

  • Anonymous

    OK IT BEGINS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    BECK, HANNITY, LIMBAUGH AND THE LOT

    TIME FOR THE HATE MONGERS TO BE THROWN OFF THE AIR AND THROWN IN PRISON

  • Anonymous

    Can we just let Arizona and Texas secede already before any more congress people are assassinated, then all you racist, misogynist, homophobes can cut and paste the Constitution to say anything you want there. Just don’t come crying to us when the Mexican drug cartels annex your states!!!

  • Anonymous

    Can we just let Arizona and Texas secede already before any more congress people are assassinated, then all you racist, misogynist, homophobes can cut and paste the Constitution to say anything you want there. Just don’t come crying to us when the Mexican drug cartels annex your states!!!

  • Tyroanee

    So this was the America the GOP what’s to go back to??… Shoot em’ up and bag em’
    Forget that whole votin’ stuff, it’s their way or death?

  • Tyroanee

    So this was the America the GOP what’s to go back to??… Shoot em’ up and bag em’
    Forget that whole votin’ stuff, it’s their way or death?

  • Anonymous

    Was she among 12 shot point-blank in the head?

  • Anonymous

    Was she among 12 shot point-blank in the head?

  • Anonymous

    BREAKING NEWS FROM NPR, Congresswoman Giffords has died…

  • Anonymous

    BREAKING NEWS FROM NPR, Congresswoman Giffords has died…

  • Anonymous

    Uhhh, before people scream ‘republican’ or ‘tea party’ or any of the usual labels, can we at least confirm the why and the WHO of the story?

    We have a young KID who shot people…that’s all we know.

  • Anonymous

    Uhhh, before people scream ‘republican’ or ‘tea party’ or any of the usual labels, can we at least confirm the why and the WHO of the story?

    We have a young KID who shot people…that’s all we know.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Alan-Flatt/764419858 Alan Flatt

    THIS is terrorism

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Alan-Flatt/764419858 Alan Flatt

    THIS is terrorism

  • Anonymous

    Murdoch’s channel is ginning up hate and more hate. It is high time for investigations, trials and justice. That awful channel says and does anything and gets away with it. Any other MSM station would be tarred, feathered and taken off of the air. Outrageous.

  • Anonymous

    I’m taking bets… Which was he, a Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, O’Reilly or Fox News fan? http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/01/rep-gabrielle-giffords-at-12-shot-tucson-grocery-store/

  • Anonymous

    Time for ALAN GRAYSON…… He’ll start with the BUSH and DICK then work his way DOWN

  • Anonymous

    The shot heard around the world – tantamount to the attack on Fort. Sumter. This represents the state of the GOP, what the Tea Party represents the state of white anger in this country – and their obsession with guns.

    The progressive and liberal majority must fight back! Now is the time to take on the right head on….

  • Anonymous

    Condolences to her family and the families and individuals effected by a senseless crime.

  • Anonymous

    Blood money is all they get, and blood is all over their hands through their big fucking, disgusting, hate mongering mouths.

  • TheDevilCanDance

    Wise words….

  • Anonymous

    I suggest giving them to Israel.

  • Anonymous

    Are you going to move down here before it happens? Texas seems like the perfect place for you. It’s full of people that like to make harsh judgments on an entire population of people and extreme solutions to deal with them.

  • Anonymous

    Murdoch is a good place to start – his Zionist empire is holding America hostage. We must fight back!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VDH4GYJMIUFU373W3XUQVD2V4E Patrick

    Terrorists strike Arizona… does this mean we get to invade another country and suspend the Constitution again?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZUOJ7K34QH4GXTMJ6KWESKS4VM Roger L

    Sad, sad day. Problem is the Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity and O’Reilly fans will be cheering this. And of course they will all deny any responsibility for this while at the same time probably making jokes about it. Wish the US would wake up to what they are doing to our country. We can agree to disagree but the idea that if you disagree with someone you have the ‘right’ or worse the ‘responsibility’ to do them harm is just downright wrong. Of course the other hing that is sad is even if this guy has right wing or teabagger connections they will be downplayed by the media.

  • http://powersthatbeat.wordpress.com/2011/01/08/rep-gabrielle-giffords-assassinated-%e2%80%98at-least-12%e2%80%b2-shot-outside-tucson-grocery-store-raw-story/ Rep. Gabrielle Giffords assassinated; ‘at least 12′ shot outside Tucson grocery store | Raw Story | The Powers That Beat

    [...] IS A BREAKING NEWS STORY… DEVELOPING… via rawstory.com This entry was posted in Uncategorized. Bookmark the permalink. ← BBC News – US [...]

  • Anonymous

    I’m sure there were people in terror, so yes. I presume it is.

  • Anonymous

    Good idea – let’s give them to Israel…

  • mparker

    What we know is that a Democratic Congresswoman was shot point blank in the head at a public meeting along with three of her staff and several others. Your genius idea is that the kid decided to kill humans and may have just stumbled onto this group thinking it was just people playing bingo. What a load of crap. When a spent bullet hits a republicans office when he’s not even in the state it’s considered a murder attempt. This was an assassination.

  • Anonymous

    What if he is not white nor of the parties listed?

  • LeftCoastLeftie

    Sarah Palin has blood on her hands.
    Sharron Angle has blood on her hands.

    These hatemongers and their supporters have to answer for this. No more dodging the reporters, Ms Angle – is this an example of the Second Amendment remedies you encouraged? Ms Palin, are you tweeting “1 dn, 19 2 go” you sick fuck

  • Anonymous

    Using a fresh tragedy to try and fuel a fight against your enemies? Someone graduated from Bush U

  • dula

    First shot in Civil War II?

  • Anonymous

    can you say “domestic terrorism”?

  • Anonymous

    The question will be whether there will more of these political killings. If this is just one nut, then they’ll get away with it scot free. If there are anymore of these assignations – then there will be repercussions for shock radio and the virulent right.

  • Anonymous

    Republican leaders need to step forward, and denounce political violence, and the use of inflamatory statements. Incitement to riot, and vigilantism, should not be protected speech.

    NO LOADED WEAPONS IN PUBLIC, except militia when activated, or when in an authorized hunting areas at authorized times, or when on duty as a law enforcement officer.

    ENOUGH ENOUGH ENOUGH ENOUGH ENOUGH ENOUGH ENOUGH ENOUGH ENOUGH

  • Anonymous

    Why are people automatically stating that it’s “TEA PARTY” or “REPUBLICAN” at fault here.

    All the reports are saying it’s a young KID, we don’t even know his motive, nationality, politics, etc.

    It’s just a kid….a stupid kid.

    Can we please wait till they have more info before condemning a whole group of people?

  • Anonymous

    I hope we can secede from this empire called the United States and enjoy a true Constitutional republic which we were all intended to be. Texas has its faults, but a desire for true freedom and independence isn’t a fault.

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  • Anonymous

    We need to not place blame on anyone until ALL THE FACTS are known. Don’t make a bad situation worse, please.

  • Anonymous

    **This just breaks my heart. Arizona has become a bastion of idiocy, that pledges allegiance to the wishes of Sarah Palin.

  • http://www.deadissue.com/archives/2011/01/08/more-tea-bagger-terrorism/ deadissue.com » Blog Archive » More tea bagger terrorism?

    [...] tea bagger terrorism? A democratic congresswomen was assinated today in AZ.. First they came for the abortion doctors and now the immigration [...]

  • Anonymous

    The posters herein show how well their minds have been conditioned to think one dimensionally. You can blame any cult of personality you like, the Tea Party, Beck, ‘conservatives’, you have fallen for the old divide and conquer routine. Do you think your ‘liberal’ conditioning somehow supersedes these events that are beginning to look evermore suspicious?
    The government is the enemy an enemy which views all of us as their enemy. The recent firecracker bombings, Wheeler, this congresswoman are all sacrificial lambs so everyone starts blaming everyone else.
    It is not out of the realm for the government to stage these ‘events’ to hasten their totalitarian agenda. If you don’t wake up and pay attention, you will soon feel the crushing of your throat by a government that is proving to be the most evil group of thugs in all recorded history.

  • http://twitter.com/shivabeach Shiva

    if this person turns out to have any connection to Fox news as a viewer for Sarah Palin/Sharon Angle as a follower, they need to be censored in the loudest public manner to stop their foolish statements about reloading, second amendment solutions and all the rest of the BS that Fox news puts out

    All of them need to be aware that there are people who take their ridiculous statements and lies seriously

  • Anonymous

    the HOLE of the GOP is ONE BIG DEATH PANEL ….. REPUBI-CARE….
    if they’re sick they should DIE QUICK (from Alan Grayson)

    if they don’t do ANYTHING to YOUR LIKING then JUST SHOOT THEM…………..

  • Anonymous

    USA Today, Huffington Post and Village Voice and local affiliates first to report…Fox didn’t make the top ten in being first

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Well, it’s starting already. That select group of gun-touting, flag-waving, racist, ignorant rednecks are beginning to pull the trigger on anyone they don’t like and don’t approve off which is probably about 50% of the population.

    My theory is that when the empire collapses economically (which should be soon), these crazies are going to take to the streets with their guns, their pick up trucks and their nooses and they will kill everyone, woman, child, gay, Latino, black, democrat, educated, you name it. As long as you ain’t one of them, you is against them and they will take you down. Whoever survives the shit will be turned into a slave and sent to pick cotton back at the plantations in Georgia.

    EDIT: The corporate media has not picked up the story yet. Wonder why?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KFOFZHLUNJCQATOHPSVHSFKP3I pw

    Probably an FBI patsy

    Terrorism is always staged to expand more government power. Just like the drugged up underwear bomber.

    They are trying their hardest to keep dems and reps at each others throats, so we stay blind to the vertical integration, and totalitarian police state developing.

    “He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.”

    -Benjamin Franklin

  • Anonymous

    Reading some of these comments I just have to say “are you people completely nuts” why would any decent human being be happy about the senseless death of another! I am Republican and didn’t agree with Mrs. Giffords politics and feel heartbroken for her and her family, Hannity, Beck,Palin watchers will cheer, your a fools and your the one’s spewing hatred!!!

  • Anonymous

    I’m a staunch Republican and I would never condone or validate ANY type violence towards another person regardless of their political beliefs. To suggest that this person who assassinated these people will ever be hailed a hero by the right wing faction is insulting. This is a tragedy, plain and simple!

  • Anonymous

    Huh?

    My “genius”idea is that people not rush to judgment because it usually compounds the issue.

    Or do we collectively assign GUILT to a whole demographic before we know FACTS?

    Like they do in Pakistan or Indonesia or 3rd world countries where mob justice rules?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KFOFZHLUNJCQATOHPSVHSFKP3I pw

    Notice how most of hte terrorists are “young kids”, like the underwear bomber.

    Its because the FBI can easilly manipulate them.

    This was probably a patsy !!!

  • Johnny Warbucks

    FAUX News should be shot down and the likes of Glenn Beck & Bill O’Reiley sent to Guantanamo. Same goes to fatass Limbaugh.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Why? So that they can be sent over to the Apartheid wall to kill Palestinians instead?

  • Anonymous

    please.
    There was an ongoing hate campaign against Giffords.
    I was the unfortunate forwardee of various hate email chains against Giffords prior to the election, from relatives I can’t stand, who YES, are fucking Teabaggers.

    The emails were full of lies, and those idiots tried to paint her as anti-military, even though she was married to a Navy Admiral.

    “this congresswoman are all sacrificial lambs so everyone starts blaming everyone else.”
    nope.
    try and do a little research on this one, before making such claims.
    yes, I do believe that those in power want us fighting against ourselves, but this time… nope.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K7ZTNDIGTXCOMG7LMWT2JJULRI Al

    Well, I hope Sarah Palin ,Sharon Angle and their ilk are satisfied. Or is this just the beginning?

  • http://ginacarson.com GLC

    Thank you for being the first news source to use ASSASSINATED instead of shot or murdered.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Hmmm…no. Unless, ‘we’ invade Canada. Mexico’s been invaded for a long time now.

  • Anonymous

    ‘Stupid ‘kid????
    Stupid is a kid forgetting his text book when he goes to class.

    If you go around shooting people point blank in the head, I don’t think the proper adjective is stupid.
    By your logic, Charles Manson was stupid, Hitler was stupid, etc.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    How much you wanna bet on that one?

  • http://biscuits007.wordpress.com/ SpitbucketBaptismo

    C’mon RawStory, give us facts. Details. Accuracy. Gits busy and dig. We NEED truth here and not innuendo or BIAS! Does RawStory know for a FACT that Giffords was “assassinated?” Cause you know, if the story turns out to be otherwise well, how fucking stupid for you.
    Judas H. Priest, America is about one more nervous twitch away from our decent into common hell.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3NVQSZZC5IM66JEOCSFJUV7FCE Jacques G

    Well, the FUXies/TEAdiots are taking it to the next level, they’re exercizing their “Second Amendment Rights”. Where did we know that wa coming. And AZ, the flagship state for all things, right wing.

  • Anonymous

    Ok all you rightwinger Republican ass kissers. Lets not hear anymore of your bullshit. This was an advertised public event and now it is a political assassination. Again you fools have stepped over the line of human decency and proved the Republicans are simply not humans.

  • Anonymous

    I keep seeing Sarah Palin’s name come up on Twitter.

    Did she call for an Assassination or something? WTF?

    Being that I completely ignore her, I have no idea what she did.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K7ZTNDIGTXCOMG7LMWT2JJULRI Al

    Palin has already taken down her “TakeBackThe20.com” bullseye website.

    A little late Sarah.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K7ZTNDIGTXCOMG7LMWT2JJULRI Al

    Palin has already taken down her “TakeBackThe20.com” bullseye website.

    A little late Sarah.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K7ZTNDIGTXCOMG7LMWT2JJULRI Al

    Palin has already taken down her “TakeBackThe20.com” bullseye website.

    A little late Sarah.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Is this woman by any chance, the one that got all the threats back during the immigration law controversy and had to close her offices for days?

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Is this woman by any chance, the one that got all the threats back during the immigration law controversy and had to close her offices for days?

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Is this woman by any chance, the one that got all the threats back during the immigration law controversy and had to close her offices for days?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KFOFZHLUNJCQATOHPSVHSFKP3I pw

    You people are being manipulated. Its all a big game. They set you up with agent provocateurs like beck, limbaugh, palin…

    Then they mind control young men as patsies, who do stuff like this. You morons get up in each others faces, blaming the other “group”…

    Meanwhile government moves in to take care of you “children”.

    If you dont know what a false flag event is, or the totalitarian tip toe….THIS IS IT.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KFOFZHLUNJCQATOHPSVHSFKP3I pw

    You people are being manipulated. Its all a big game. They set you up with agent provocateurs like beck, limbaugh, palin…

    Then they mind control young men as patsies, who do stuff like this. You morons get up in each others faces, blaming the other “group”…

    Meanwhile government moves in to take care of you “children”.

    If you dont know what a false flag event is, or the totalitarian tip toe….THIS IS IT.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KFOFZHLUNJCQATOHPSVHSFKP3I pw

    You people are being manipulated. Its all a big game. They set you up with agent provocateurs like beck, limbaugh, palin…

    Then they mind control young men as patsies, who do stuff like this. You morons get up in each others faces, blaming the other “group”…

    Meanwhile government moves in to take care of you “children”.

    If you dont know what a false flag event is, or the totalitarian tip toe….THIS IS IT.

  • Anonymous

    I read they’ve already discussed which votes she made potentially caused her to get shot in the head on Fox.
    Haven’t seen the clip yet though.

  • Anonymous

    I read they’ve already discussed which votes she made potentially caused her to get shot in the head on Fox.
    Haven’t seen the clip yet though.

  • Anonymous

    I read they’ve already discussed which votes she made potentially caused her to get shot in the head on Fox.
    Haven’t seen the clip yet though.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    They can take Georgia with them. P U L E A S E !

  • Johnny Warbucks

    They can take Georgia with them. P U L E A S E !

  • Johnny Warbucks

    They can take Georgia with them. P U L E A S E !

  • Anonymous

    I live in Cochise County, she’s a good congresswoman. This is very troubling and my heart goes out to her and her family. I’m headed to Tucson in a couple hours to pick my family up at the airport and might have stopped at that Safeway…..

  • Anonymous

    I live in Cochise County, she’s a good congresswoman. This is very troubling and my heart goes out to her and her family. I’m headed to Tucson in a couple hours to pick my family up at the airport and might have stopped at that Safeway…..

  • Anonymous

    I live in Cochise County, she’s a good congresswoman. This is very troubling and my heart goes out to her and her family. I’m headed to Tucson in a couple hours to pick my family up at the airport and might have stopped at that Safeway…..

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KFOFZHLUNJCQATOHPSVHSFKP3I pw

    The only crazies are the drugged up patsies who follow FBI instruction.

    What you just said is the myth they are trying to create to justify the police state.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KFOFZHLUNJCQATOHPSVHSFKP3I pw

    The only crazies are the drugged up patsies who follow FBI instruction.

    What you just said is the myth they are trying to create to justify the police state.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KFOFZHLUNJCQATOHPSVHSFKP3I pw

    The only crazies are the drugged up patsies who follow FBI instruction.

    What you just said is the myth they are trying to create to justify the police state.

  • Anonymous

    This what comes from the hate that the Republican party has been spewing for the last 8 or nine years and this crap has got to stop. When they go to saying tese things a few years ago would have gotten you in jail or at least checked out.

  • Anonymous

    This what comes from the hate that the Republican party has been spewing for the last 8 or nine years and this crap has got to stop. When they go to saying tese things a few years ago would have gotten you in jail or at least checked out.

  • Anonymous

    This what comes from the hate that the Republican party has been spewing for the last 8 or nine years and this crap has got to stop. When they go to saying tese things a few years ago would have gotten you in jail or at least checked out.

  • Anonymous

    QED

  • Anonymous

    QED

  • Anonymous

    QED

  • Anonymous

    And republicans want to abolish any Social Services that will help the many rooming the streets that need immediate inpatient care. God help us.

  • Anonymous

    And republicans want to abolish any Social Services that will help the many rooming the streets that need immediate inpatient care. God help us.

  • Anonymous

    And republicans want to abolish any Social Services that will help the many rooming the streets that need immediate inpatient care. God help us.

  • Anonymous

    Latest reports are that she’s in surgery and alive, someone goofed saying she’s dead.

  • Anonymous

    Latest reports are that she’s in surgery and alive, someone goofed saying she’s dead.

  • dula

    Are you the sort of “staunch Republican” who advocated and promoted the war based on lies against the weak nation of Iraq, that had no means of attacking the US? That was a type of violence that has murdered millions.

  • Anonymous

    Latest reports are that she’s in surgery and alive, someone goofed saying she’s dead.

  • dula

    Are you the sort of “staunch Republican” who advocated and promoted the war based on lies against the weak nation of Iraq, that had no means of attacking the US? That was a type of violence that has murdered millions.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Actually, I heard the most fantastic idea so far at the Common Dreams blog the other day. They propose dividing the country down the middle and keeping the loonies on side and the us on the other side. Their proposal became very elaborate as they went into forms of government, laws, environment, human rights, etc. But the gist was, split the country and take sides. They can all kill themselves but can’t come over to our side. That sounds like a great solution to me.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Actually, I heard the most fantastic idea so far at the Common Dreams blog the other day. They propose dividing the country down the middle and keeping the loonies on side and the us on the other side. Their proposal became very elaborate as they went into forms of government, laws, environment, human rights, etc. But the gist was, split the country and take sides. They can all kill themselves but can’t come over to our side. That sounds like a great solution to me.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Actually, I heard the most fantastic idea so far at the Common Dreams blog the other day. They propose dividing the country down the middle and keeping the loonies on side and the us on the other side. Their proposal became very elaborate as they went into forms of government, laws, environment, human rights, etc. But the gist was, split the country and take sides. They can all kill themselves but can’t come over to our side. That sounds like a great solution to me.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Ha ha ha! I second that motion.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Ha ha ha! I second that motion.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Ha ha ha! I second that motion.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K7ZTNDIGTXCOMG7LMWT2JJULRI Al

    http://twitter.com/Aatrek/status/23822850859208706

    Sarah’s bullseye website can be found here. And yes, Gabrielle was on Sarah’s target list.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K7ZTNDIGTXCOMG7LMWT2JJULRI Al

    http://twitter.com/Aatrek/status/23822850859208706

    Sarah’s bullseye website can be found here. And yes, Gabrielle was on Sarah’s target list.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K7ZTNDIGTXCOMG7LMWT2JJULRI Al

    http://twitter.com/Aatrek/status/23822850859208706

    Sarah’s bullseye website can be found here. And yes, Gabrielle was on Sarah’s target list.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    More likely that Fox News planned it.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    More likely that Fox News planned it.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    More likely that Fox News planned it.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/6EX2KJ7LSZMDCBZWCH62Q7CABY Sandra

    Wait….. wasn’t she and Polosi mortal enemies?

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/6EX2KJ7LSZMDCBZWCH62Q7CABY Sandra

    Wait….. wasn’t she and Polosi mortal enemies?

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/6EX2KJ7LSZMDCBZWCH62Q7CABY Sandra

    Wait….. wasn’t she and Polosi mortal enemies?

  • Jaimie11

    I agree Alan and I will not be at all surprised if this kid was on Pharma drugs and was coaxed and coached by someone working in the interests of the oligarchs.

    This is a terribly sad day for the family of Arizona’s first Jewish congresswoman and for all of us as it will usher in a worsening clampdown and arouse hatred for anyone who does not want to willingly give up their freedoms in toto.

    For those of you liberals in name only who are using this tragedy to make sick jokes that promote your stupid regional prejudices – you are responsible for this – you are the ones with your PC arrogance propping up your amoral disgusting contributions to the destruction of freedom. And the same goes for you stupid right wing filth mongers, you are responsible along with the LINOs on this blog. You all disgust me. You are all too immature to even have an opinion that isn’t predigested and handed to you by your party ideologues. You deserve the tyranny that is about to crash down on your ignorant heads.

  • Jaimie11

    I agree Alan and I will not be at all surprised if this kid was on Pharma drugs and was coaxed and coached by someone working in the interests of the oligarchs.

    This is a terribly sad day for the family of Arizona’s first Jewish congresswoman and for all of us as it will usher in a worsening clampdown and arouse hatred for anyone who does not want to willingly give up their freedoms in toto.

    For those of you liberals in name only who are using this tragedy to make sick jokes that promote your stupid regional prejudices – you are responsible for this – you are the ones with your PC arrogance propping up your amoral disgusting contributions to the destruction of freedom. And the same goes for you stupid right wing filth mongers, you are responsible along with the LINOs on this blog. You all disgust me. You are all too immature to even have an opinion that isn’t predigested and handed to you by your party ideologues. You deserve the tyranny that is about to crash down on your ignorant heads.

  • Jaimie11

    I agree Alan and I will not be at all surprised if this kid was on Pharma drugs and was coaxed and coached by someone working in the interests of the oligarchs.

    This is a terribly sad day for the family of Arizona’s first Jewish congresswoman and for all of us as it will usher in a worsening clampdown and arouse hatred for anyone who does not want to willingly give up their freedoms in toto.

    For those of you liberals in name only who are using this tragedy to make sick jokes that promote your stupid regional prejudices – you are responsible for this – you are the ones with your PC arrogance propping up your amoral disgusting contributions to the destruction of freedom. And the same goes for you stupid right wing filth mongers, you are responsible along with the LINOs on this blog. You all disgust me. You are all too immature to even have an opinion that isn’t predigested and handed to you by your party ideologues. You deserve the tyranny that is about to crash down on your ignorant heads.

  • tsuki

    The AZ Tea Party Leader declared that Giffords was toast. Sounds like they were calling for a second amendment remedy to me.

  • tsuki

    The AZ Tea Party Leader declared that Giffords was toast. Sounds like they were calling for a second amendment remedy to me.

  • tsuki

    The AZ Tea Party Leader declared that Giffords was toast. Sounds like they were calling for a second amendment remedy to me.

  • LeftCoastLeftie

    MSNBC just interviewed a hospital spokesperson who said Ms Giffords is in surgery at this moment.

    I”m sure Sister Sarah is praying for her right now. She thinks no one could have predicted that her crosshairs could be mistaken for anything evil. I’m waiting for the first ad that asks “Do you want this woman to be your president? Look what she does to animals and people.”

  • LeftCoastLeftie

    MSNBC just interviewed a hospital spokesperson who said Ms Giffords is in surgery at this moment.

    I”m sure Sister Sarah is praying for her right now. She thinks no one could have predicted that her crosshairs could be mistaken for anything evil. I’m waiting for the first ad that asks “Do you want this woman to be your president? Look what she does to animals and people.”

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, “2nd Ammendment remedies,” in action, made infamous in Arizona senatorial election.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, “2nd Ammendment remedies,” in action, made infamous in Arizona senatorial election.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, “2nd Ammendment remedies,” in action, made infamous in Arizona senatorial election.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Because, most likely, it is them. Nobody else is that bigoted, racist, hateful, crazy and violent to pull it off.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Because, most likely, it is them. Nobody else is that bigoted, racist, hateful, crazy and violent to pull it off.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Because, most likely, it is them. Nobody else is that bigoted, racist, hateful, crazy and violent to pull it off.

  • Anonymous

    Except for that city-state called Athens (Georgia)…

  • Anonymous

    Except for that city-state called Athens (Georgia)…

  • Anonymous

    Except for that city-state called Athens (Georgia)…

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3NVQSZZC5IM66JEOCSFJUV7FCE Jacques G

    Well, when TEAdiots have been noted on more than ONE occasion to be totin’ “iron” and knives around events where Obama was speaking, and others have ALREADY voiced expressing their “Second Amendment rights,” it is NOT beyond the realm of possibility. Be ashamed, be VERY ashamed.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3NVQSZZC5IM66JEOCSFJUV7FCE Jacques G

    Well, when TEAdiots have been noted on more than ONE occasion to be totin’ “iron” and knives around events where Obama was speaking, and others have ALREADY voiced expressing their “Second Amendment rights,” it is NOT beyond the realm of possibility. Be ashamed, be VERY ashamed.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3NVQSZZC5IM66JEOCSFJUV7FCE Jacques G

    Well, when TEAdiots have been noted on more than ONE occasion to be totin’ “iron” and knives around events where Obama was speaking, and others have ALREADY voiced expressing their “Second Amendment rights,” it is NOT beyond the realm of possibility. Be ashamed, be VERY ashamed.

  • David R Velasquez

    Palin and Beck both have alot to answer for.
    By their own definition, they are terrorists.

  • David R Velasquez

    Palin and Beck both have alot to answer for.
    By their own definition, they are terrorists.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Fritz-Lentz/100000680544297 Fritz Lentz

    and hell no you not getting our guns dont even think about it liberals !!! fuck gun control
    i know you commies will use any excuse to take our guns
    should i stop driving a car because some asshole kills someone with his car hell no

  • David R Velasquez

    Palin and Beck both have alot to answer for.
    By their own definition, they are terrorists.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Fritz-Lentz/100000680544297 Fritz Lentz

    and hell no you not getting our guns dont even think about it liberals !!! fuck gun control
    i know you commies will use any excuse to take our guns
    should i stop driving a car because some asshole kills someone with his car hell no

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KFOFZHLUNJCQATOHPSVHSFKP3I pw

    The dark cabal found it necessary to throw her life into the machine of the police state.

    This will speed up their agenda, and justify all the heightened security they have waiting for us.

    Check points, Drone surveillance, mobile xray scanners, fear, distrust, infighting….This list will not end til we are living in HARDCORE AUSTERITY.

    STOP BLAMING EACH OTHER. There are mind controllers at work here. You all know it, stop denying it. Wake up, stop living in the smut peddling media machine. Regain your dignity as human beings, and your clarity of vision.

    FBI, CIA, DHS, MK-ULTRA, PROJECT PAPERCLIP, FALSE FLAG, PATSIES

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KFOFZHLUNJCQATOHPSVHSFKP3I pw

    The dark cabal found it necessary to throw her life into the machine of the police state.

    This will speed up their agenda, and justify all the heightened security they have waiting for us.

    Check points, Drone surveillance, mobile xray scanners, fear, distrust, infighting….This list will not end til we are living in HARDCORE AUSTERITY.

    STOP BLAMING EACH OTHER. There are mind controllers at work here. You all know it, stop denying it. Wake up, stop living in the smut peddling media machine. Regain your dignity as human beings, and your clarity of vision.

    FBI, CIA, DHS, MK-ULTRA, PROJECT PAPERCLIP, FALSE FLAG, PATSIES

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KFOFZHLUNJCQATOHPSVHSFKP3I pw

    The dark cabal found it necessary to throw her life into the machine of the police state.

    This will speed up their agenda, and justify all the heightened security they have waiting for us.

    Check points, Drone surveillance, mobile xray scanners, fear, distrust, infighting….This list will not end til we are living in HARDCORE AUSTERITY.

    STOP BLAMING EACH OTHER. There are mind controllers at work here. You all know it, stop denying it. Wake up, stop living in the smut peddling media machine. Regain your dignity as human beings, and your clarity of vision.

    FBI, CIA, DHS, MK-ULTRA, PROJECT PAPERCLIP, FALSE FLAG, PATSIES

  • tsuki

    Let’s name the real culprit, Rupert Roo. It’s his bucks and national platform that gives voice to the crazies.

  • tsuki

    Let’s name the real culprit, Rupert Roo. It’s his bucks and national platform that gives voice to the crazies.

  • tsuki

    Let’s name the real culprit, Rupert Roo. It’s his bucks and national platform that gives voice to the crazies.

  • Anonymous

    Whenever huge events like this happen, it’s always a good practice to step back away from the emotion and let the facts roll in…

    Then ask , WHO BENEFITS..what doesn’t add up…what stories conflict..etc.

  • Anonymous

    Whenever huge events like this happen, it’s always a good practice to step back away from the emotion and let the facts roll in…

    Then ask , WHO BENEFITS..what doesn’t add up…what stories conflict..etc.

  • Anonymous

    Whenever huge events like this happen, it’s always a good practice to step back away from the emotion and let the facts roll in…

    Then ask , WHO BENEFITS..what doesn’t add up…what stories conflict..etc.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3NVQSZZC5IM66JEOCSFJUV7FCE Jacques G

    Highly unlikely. EVERYTHING isn’t an FBI, CIA, TSA, LSD. STP Government “plot” to bring down America. A lot is stemming from our own crazed, insane citizens.

  • Anonymous

    Full disclosure: I “borrowed” that idea from my good friend BartCop. That dood has it all figured out!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Alan-Flatt/764419858 Alan Flatt

    both you tea baggers are morons…Fox is a terrorist network who inspires this kind of shit! as is Sharon Angel

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WOF6ZCKUUJDNLYWIGKEK3E5HFU B

    We’re watching it too. But you have to know that there’s no way she’ll come out of this. She may not be brain dead, but I doubt she’ll make it.

  • tsuki

    A political killing is an assassination. It is the targeted killing of a public figure, like when the AZ Tea Party leader declares Giffords is toast.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Alan-Flatt/764419858 Alan Flatt

    thank you..This is part and parcel of 2d amendment remedies by Angell

  • Anonymous

    didnt take long for all the batshit crazies to show up in the forum

  • ghostof911

    If the shooter was put up to it, watch him be snuffed like Lee Harvey and he’ll be dubbed a crazed gunman who acted alone.

  • Anonymous

    batshit 1

  • Anonymous

    batshit 2

  • Anonymous

    batshit 3

  • Anonymous

    Wow you sure got that right.

  • Taleisin

    There was no problem pointing the finger at Afghanistan or Iraq.
    Mob mentality is a fundamental part of US culture.
    Why start thinking reasonably now?

  • Anonymous

    batshit 4

  • tsuki

    Let’s begin at the beginning and deport Rupert Roo.

  • Jaimie11

    You, ericroded, are living proof that unbounded stupidity and diabolical evil can coexist in the mind of a single person!

  • Anonymous

    who said anything about getting your guns you stupid fuck, your guns are ok, you are apparently another matter to be looked at

  • Anonymous

    batshit 4

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/G5WFKJ4J5LJ6NKWLT7BLTLAGVE neclark

    ohhh… so sorry if you’re `insulted’ … but with Republican firebrands repeatedly calling for `Second Amendment Solutions” if they don’t get their way – and with the Republican leadership doing NOTHING to discipline them (all while taking $$$ from the NRA), the party- and its’ Members deserve any- and all criticism that will be heaped upon them.

    Will you pressure Michelle Bachmann, et al. to publicly express their remorse for their inflammatory statements? If not, then YOU deserve all of the criticisms that will fall upon the apologists for gun-toting whackos for this.

  • tsuki

    Reporting, nah. They are busy masturbating to the news that they bagged another one.

  • Anonymous

    batshit 5

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KFOFZHLUNJCQATOHPSVHSFKP3I pw

    No, global elitists use countries as pawns to rape, murder and pillage. The people of a given country are merely blank slates programmed by hypnotic media. We are slaves to our masters. “Conservative” is mostly just a buzz word to help divide and program us.

  • Anonymous

    I’m afraid her killing will not result in any crackdown, but rather be felt as a message to Democrats to give in to immigration issues and all other to the extreme right, with Sarah Palin being the sole sacrafice.

    That’s how assassinations work. They usually make their point and succeed in moving a government in the direction that the assassin(s) intended.

    There will be a lot of rhetoric and it will hurt Sarah Palin, but it won’t change anything regarding issues except to move it to the right.

    If you think Democrats lack backbone…..watch what happens now outside the rhetoric…they will move quicker and faster to the right.

    Obama is already doing that.

    There will be measures taken. Measure to ensure the saftey of government officials. More security firms will be hired, more survelliance, more wire tapping, more crackdowns on suspected
    “terrorists”…and suspected “terrorists” are illegal immigrants, arabs, muslims and anyone with a darker shade of skin color than white.

    This moves the government more toward a security state than liberalizing immigration issues.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KFOFZHLUNJCQATOHPSVHSFKP3I pw

    And who are you? The one who knows the truth?

  • Anonymous
  • ghostof911

    Patsy. You’re getting warm.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZYAIiErTNg

  • Anonymous

    “Elimination”?

    By what means? I HATE religion myself but are you condoning the physical elimination of a whole group of people in response to this??

    By the way, the word “Conservative ” has different meaning in different countries worldwide.

    So where do we start “culling”?

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3NVQSZZC5IM66JEOCSFJUV7FCE Jacques G

    Unlikely, any more than Pele caused the eruptions of Mt Saint Helens. Stick to reality, crazy people are out there and, currently, most so far have been crazy reich wing nutzos hauling their guns around at Dem rallies and protesting obnoxiously at Dem events, swearing their “second amendment rights.” This is only statistical extrapolation of event incidents, statistically being right wing nutzos.

  • Anonymous

    Reading most of these post as news breaks and much of the story left to be told, gives me a look at hate, prejudice and judgment…it’s embarrassing. The very people you are hating and mocking is what you are becoming. This woman has a life here and children a family and so many are willing to throw her in the fire of their hateful fodder. Please take a breath, a step back before you begin your lynching.

  • Taleisin

    Settle, Petal.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/G5WFKJ4J5LJ6NKWLT7BLTLAGVE neclark

    Amen, Brother (or Sister)…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Fritz-Lentz/100000680544297 Fritz Lentz

    but you are thinking about it every damn time a mass shooting happens like columbine and waco and people going postal

  • Anonymous

    Staunch Republicans supported and voted for George W Bush who created the disastrous wars, the economic morass, and the hatefully divided situation we now find ourselves in.
    Find some pride in that, if you can.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KFOFZHLUNJCQATOHPSVHSFKP3I pw

    The problem is, the media programs us to blame certain groups before the event even happens. And when the event happens, the fed has all the security measures ready to roll in on us.

    This is the security industrial complex. And just how anti-virus companies release viruses to sell their software, the security industrial complex trains and releases patsies to commit “terrorism” to boost their business as well.

    Young kids murdering congress people? This is almost certainly a frame up.

  • Anonymous

    Can someone point me to a cached or saved web page of the whole “Sarah Palin” target thing?

    What happened? Did she call for violence against Representatives recently. I really don’t know what happened so can someone tell me?

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3NVQSZZC5IM66JEOCSFJUV7FCE Jacques G

    The “undie bomber” wasn’t a young kid. The COLUMBINE shooters were young kids. And often, young kids are impressed by their often, dumb parents.

  • Anonymous

    yes, im ready to be beamed up to heavens. the dark lords run by the lizard people government finished the pentagram spaceship which of from the launch pad at former trade towers that were blown up by the jews to build the runway. weve cleared all the birds from the sky and exploded the oil rig to fuel the crazy jet. that congresswoman was in the way of the launch path, last obstacle removed.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/G5WFKJ4J5LJ6NKWLT7BLTLAGVE neclark

    Another – particularly spectacular – “NRA Success Story”… I’ve just contacted the muzzle-caressing morons to congratulate them on the event – I’d suggest that others do likewise.

    We probably won’t change the minds of the leadership, but we could probably reach the still-living conscious of regular employees, who might at least repent and save themselves.from guilt-by-association.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KFOFZHLUNJCQATOHPSVHSFKP3I pw

    There is one agenda, and the left/right paradigm is a false arena intended to divide the public, while carrying the country in one single direction.

    “The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can throw the rascals out at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy. Then it should be possible to replace it, every four years if necessary, by the other party, which will be none of these things but will still pursue, with new vigor, approximately the same basic policies.”

    “The Secret Government” Professor Carroll Quigley, who was Bill Clinton’s mentor, wrote “Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in Our Time” which outlines the truth about the world financial elite and their plan to create a worldwide feudalistic system under their control

  • Anonymous

    Wow – that is a real indictment of the language of the far right…

  • Anonymous

    Reich-wing = Authoritarianism = Fascism = Anti-Democratic = Jihad = Shoot those who oppose you. So it has always been, so it will always be.

    Fox news (as Mike Malloy points out) is an anti-American, terrorist propaganda network. It is controlled by a non-American and it’s chief goal is to use fear to undermine the confidence of the American people in themselves; in their own government.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KFOFZHLUNJCQATOHPSVHSFKP3I pw

    Guess you have no idea of the history of false flag as used by governments to control the public.

  • Anonymous
  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KFOFZHLUNJCQATOHPSVHSFKP3I pw

    Guess you have no idea of the history of false flag as used by governments to control the public.

    Might wanna do some research buddy.

  • Anonymous

    Fritz, first I would like to say I am sorry for the comment, but you are barking up the wrong tree on me. I am an active member of the NRA have been for over 40 years, but on the other hand we have to be responseable in what we say and do. We have many nuts in our country that get inflamed every time they here things like people say these days such as Columbine if you do know what I am talking about..

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/G5WFKJ4J5LJ6NKWLT7BLTLAGVE neclark

    Wrong… Several entities deserve immediate blame – the NRA and its gun-maker & gun-seller funders, who have polluted the nation with easy-to-obtain lethal weaponry. And by extension, the gun-fetishist paranoids who insist that it’s appropriate for any- and everyone to have unfettered access to firearms.

    These are guilty `accessory to the crime’ parties, plain-and-simple.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks, never saw that..

    Very unsettling.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3NVQSZZC5IM66JEOCSFJUV7FCE Jacques G

    But, in seeing many photographs of TEA party events and other Beckian type assemblages, LOTS of “young kids”can be seen there. Their parents drag them along for their indoctrination or they wilfully go because they’ve absorbed their crazy parents’ blather, so YES, it is very possible if not likely this is another conservative child going run amok, either by disillusion or his own self programming. And those “Second amendment” expressions certainly reinforce that drive.

  • Rush Goofbaugh

    batshit 4

    have you wondered why no one is responding to you…. batshit boy?

  • Anonymous

    What an incredible outpouring of ignorance and hate has by in large been displayed most of the comments in this forum as the result of a tragedy. Before you cry criminal conspiracy of the political right take a moment to gather the facts and consider where and what happened. Mexico is in the midst of what amounts to a civil war among organized crime groups and that violence has in several instances spread across the boarder. From the evidence at hand this appears to me the act of the mentally deranged, not a thought out political assai nation. This kind of knee-jerk political reactions does nothing but make us the laughing stock to the rest of the world and emboldens our enemies, who in the real are many. Where is the outrage and the other 19 people killed or injured?

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Fritz-Lentz/100000680544297 Fritz Lentz

    she is most likely brain dead by now machines are keeping her alive for now

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Fritz-Lentz/100000680544297 Fritz Lentz

    she is most likely brain dead by now machines are keeping her alive for now

  • ghostof911

    Arizona is so bankrupt it had to put its
    government buildings up for sale
    . It demonizes immigrants and flaunts Sheriff Joe’s Tent Prison so no one pays attention to how bad things are.

  • Anonymous

    No, because right wingers wanted something like this to happen. The Constitution has already been suspended and that will continue, however, but not due to this event.

  • Anonymous

    No, because right wingers wanted something like this to happen. The Constitution has already been suspended and that will continue, however, but not due to this event.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_PZPpWTRTU Bamboo_Harvester

    SHUT DOWN FOX LIMBAUGH AND PALIN !!!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_PZPpWTRTU Bamboo_Harvester

    SHUT DOWN FOX LIMBAUGH AND PALIN !!!!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    from gawker:

    The gunman was young, mid-to-late 20s, white, clean-shaven with short hair and wearing dark clothing and said nothing during the shooting or while being held down, although he struggled at first. He was “not particularly well-dressed”; he didn’t look like a businessman, but more of a “fringe character,” Rayle said (eyewitness, Steven Rayle)
    http://gawker.com/5728501/arizona-congresswoman-shot-outside-grocery-store

  • Anonymous

    from gawker:

    The gunman was young, mid-to-late 20s, white, clean-shaven with short hair and wearing dark clothing and said nothing during the shooting or while being held down, although he struggled at first. He was “not particularly well-dressed”; he didn’t look like a businessman, but more of a “fringe character,” Rayle said (eyewitness, Steven Rayle)
    http://gawker.com/5728501/arizona-congresswoman-shot-outside-grocery-store

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KFOFZHLUNJCQATOHPSVHSFKP3I pw

    Do you underestimate the power of the military industrial complex over the minds of citizens? Perhaps you should look into history a bit more…

    I mean a crazed citizen is always a possibility…. But “highly unlikely” that its a patsy?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KFOFZHLUNJCQATOHPSVHSFKP3I pw

    Do you underestimate the power of the military industrial complex over the minds of citizens? Perhaps you should look into history a bit more…

    I mean a crazed citizen is always a possibility…. But “highly unlikely” that its a patsy?

  • Anonymous

    You have been duped by Fox to believe government of the people, by the people, for the people, is an evil idea.
    I would rather have the government of the United States on my side, than Fox News or any other right wing organization.
    When you say government is your enemy, you are saying that we, the people, are your enemy.
    You belong to the most evil group of thugs in all recorded history.

  • Anonymous

    You have been duped by Fox to believe government of the people, by the people, for the people, is an evil idea.
    I would rather have the government of the United States on my side, than Fox News or any other right wing organization.
    When you say government is your enemy, you are saying that we, the people, are your enemy.
    You belong to the most evil group of thugs in all recorded history.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/ERZ43TY26SRWX4MJT6LZMR64AA Dirk

    “The suspect was described by witnesses as a young man in his late teens or early 20s”. Should it actually have read “The suspect was described by witnesses as a young ***white*** man in his late teens or early 20s”?

  • Anonymous

    What an incredible outpouring of ignorance and hate has by in large been displayed most of the comments in this forum as the result of a tragedy. Before you cry criminal conspiracy of the political right take a moment to gather the facts and consider where and what happened. Mexico is in the midst of what amounts to a civil war among organized crime groups and that violence has in several instances spread across the boarder. From the evidence at hand this appears to me the act of the mentally deranged, not a thought out political assai nation. This kind of knee-jerk political reactions does nothing but make us the laughing stock to the rest of the world and emboldens our enemies, who in the real are many. Where is the outrage and the other 19 people killed or injured?

  • Anonymous

    What an incredible outpouring of ignorance and hate has by in large been displayed most of the comments in this forum as the result of a tragedy. Before you cry criminal conspiracy of the political right take a moment to gather the facts and consider where and what happened. Mexico is in the midst of what amounts to a civil war among organized crime groups and that violence has in several instances spread across the boarder. From the evidence at hand this appears to me the act of the mentally deranged, not a thought out political assai nation. This kind of knee-jerk political reactions does nothing but make us the laughing stock to the rest of the world and emboldens our enemies, who in the real are many. Where is the outrage and the other 19 people killed or injured?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_PZPpWTRTU Bamboo_Harvester

    DEMAND THE FUCKING FAILED AMERICAN MEDIA REPORT HIS POLITICAL BENT

    MOST ALL OF THESE KILLERS ARE RIGHT WINGERS !

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_PZPpWTRTU Bamboo_Harvester

    DEMAND THE FUCKING FAILED AMERICAN MEDIA REPORT HIS POLITICAL BENT

    MOST ALL OF THESE KILLERS ARE RIGHT WINGERS !

  • David R Velasquez

    Yes, it’s ALL fake and meant to manipulate us.
    It’s all one big false flag/Psy Op… It’s all true and untrue at the same time.
    And we’re supposed to be in a constant state of confusion…on one side the media saying one thing, the alternate media saying another, the authorities saying another thing and “truthers” like you telling us something else.
    And with you here pitching then we’re truly too confused to know what to do…. and then their plan has worked completely.
    Where are your sources, btw?

    Spare us the pseudo Infowars truther babble.
    Where were you during the last three years… during the 2008 campaign when Palin kept hammering on about how Obama “wasn’t like you or me” and then later ratcheting up the gun/leftist hunting analogies with her target lists. Then we’ve Beck hammering on to millions of viewers about the imminent destruction of the US by the forces of the center-left…in his feverishly high pitched voice urging followers to deal with innocuous working class organisations.
    Do you even know how many armed attacks have both occurred or have been attempted but thwarted because of this rhetoric? Obviously not or you wouldn’t be talking such dog crap. Palin and Beck and the rest of the right’s anti Obama hysterics have actually produced a body count…and have almost had even more added to it by people who have unequivocally stated that Beck influenced their actions.

    So save your MK Ultra rap,teabagger troll,… because it has absolutely no relevance in this situation.

  • David R Velasquez

    Yes, it’s ALL fake and meant to manipulate us.
    It’s all one big false flag/Psy Op… It’s all true and untrue at the same time.
    And we’re supposed to be in a constant state of confusion…on one side the media saying one thing, the alternate media saying another, the authorities saying another thing and “truthers” like you telling us something else.
    And with you here pitching then we’re truly too confused to know what to do…. and then their plan has worked completely.
    Where are your sources, btw?

    Spare us the pseudo Infowars truther babble.
    Where were you during the last three years… during the 2008 campaign when Palin kept hammering on about how Obama “wasn’t like you or me” and then later ratcheting up the gun/leftist hunting analogies with her target lists. Then we’ve Beck hammering on to millions of viewers about the imminent destruction of the US by the forces of the center-left…in his feverishly high pitched voice urging followers to deal with innocuous working class organisations.
    Do you even know how many armed attacks have both occurred or have been attempted but thwarted because of this rhetoric? Obviously not or you wouldn’t be talking such dog crap. Palin and Beck and the rest of the right’s anti Obama hysterics have actually produced a body count…and have almost had even more added to it by people who have unequivocally stated that Beck influenced their actions.

    So save your MK Ultra rap,teabagger troll,… because it has absolutely no relevance in this situation.

  • ghostof911

    Arizona is so bankrupt its governor had to put its government buildings up for sale. It demonizes immigrants and flaunts Sheriff Joe’s Tent Prison so no one will pay attention to how bad things are.

  • ghostof911

    Arizona is so bankrupt its governor had to put its government buildings up for sale. It demonizes immigrants and flaunts Sheriff Joe’s Tent Prison so no one will pay attention to how bad things are.

  • Anonymous

    “They shot one of ours, so let’s kill all of them?”

    That’s you’re rhetoric? If I disagree with you, will you eliminate me too?

  • Anonymous

    “They shot one of ours, so let’s kill all of them?”

    That’s you’re rhetoric? If I disagree with you, will you eliminate me too?

  • Anonymous

    Most of Beck’s audience are “kids”.
    And yes, they are stupid.

  • Anonymous

    Most of Beck’s audience are “kids”.
    And yes, they are stupid.

  • Anonymous

    It was a white guy: “The man was young, mid-to-late 20s, white clean-shaven with short hair and wearing dark clothing and said nothing during the shooting or while being held down. He didn’t look like a businessman, but more of a “fringe character,” our source said.

  • Anonymous

    It was a white guy: “The man was young, mid-to-late 20s, white clean-shaven with short hair and wearing dark clothing and said nothing during the shooting or while being held down. He didn’t look like a businessman, but more of a “fringe character,” our source said.

  • Anonymous

    the extreme right wing nut jobs get all bent out of shape when they are referred to as such by the left, and this is the direction this country wants to move towards!!!! Looks like arizona and texas want to lead the way back to when the civil war and when world was flat, hey, I say if they want to secede, let them go.http://www.fuckthesouth.com/Palin, beck, and company need to be held criminally liable for incitement. Arizona, wake up, your govenor is a kook!Thoughts are with Gabrielle Giffords

  • Anonymous

    the extreme right wing nut jobs get all bent out of shape when they are referred to as such by the left, and this is the direction this country wants to move towards!!!! Looks like arizona and texas want to lead the way back to when the civil war and when world was flat, hey, I say if they want to secede, let them go.http://www.fuckthesouth.com/Palin, beck, and company need to be held criminally liable for incitement. Arizona, wake up, your govenor is a kook!Thoughts are with Gabrielle Giffords

  • Anonymous

    Sadly, you are probably correct… Even the Anthrax attacks against 2 Senators was probably Rightwing Domestic terrorism… the 2 Senators were the only 2 to vote AGAINST the Patriot Act (also the ONLY ONES to READ IT cover to cover)…

    So a false flag Anthrax attack was engineered to “convince them to vote in the name of Homeland Security”

    Luckily, Russ Feingold wasn’t swayed, but sadly, Patrick Leahy changed his vote…

  • Anonymous

    Sadly, you are probably correct… Even the Anthrax attacks against 2 Senators was probably Rightwing Domestic terrorism… the 2 Senators were the only 2 to vote AGAINST the Patriot Act (also the ONLY ONES to READ IT cover to cover)…

    So a false flag Anthrax attack was engineered to “convince them to vote in the name of Homeland Security”

    Luckily, Russ Feingold wasn’t swayed, but sadly, Patrick Leahy changed his vote…

  • ghostof911

    You’re half right. The crazies that are running around with guns are being deliberately torqued up and manipulated by others who have an agenda.

  • Anonymous

    “A Middle Eastern man in his 20s”…….this would’ve been reported with no apprehension had it been an Arab looking man.

  • ghostof911

    You’re half right. The crazies that are running around with guns are being deliberately torqued up and manipulated by others who have an agenda.

  • TheDevilCanDance

    You are dumber than a bag of doorknobs….I am a Brit citizen, I couldn’t give a fly fuck about the Tea-baggers.

  • TheDevilCanDance

    You are dumber than a bag of doorknobs….I am a Brit citizen, I couldn’t give a fly fuck about the Tea-baggers.

  • Anonymous

    I know enough to tell you a CIA hit always frames a guy who has been sheep dipped to look like he is from the left. Now on a larger scale, in order to foment the masses they have their propaganda networks do the wailing. And they are not successful until it manifest, as with this. Fox Newsis basically a wholly owned subsidiary of the CIA, follow the behind the scenes of Rupert Murdoch and it becomes patently obvious. Not that any ‘news’ outlet is exempt they all are the propaganda arm of the US corporate state.

  • Anonymous

    I know enough to tell you a CIA hit always frames a guy who has been sheep dipped to look like he is from the left. Now on a larger scale, in order to foment the masses they have their propaganda networks do the wailing. And they are not successful until it manifest, as with this. Fox Newsis basically a wholly owned subsidiary of the CIA, follow the behind the scenes of Rupert Murdoch and it becomes patently obvious. Not that any ‘news’ outlet is exempt they all are the propaganda arm of the US corporate state.

  • ghostof911

    You’re both right. Teabagger outrage may be the proximate cause of this incident, but something more sinister is stirring the Teabagger outrage.

  • ghostof911

    You’re both right. Teabagger outrage may be the proximate cause of this incident, but something more sinister is stirring the Teabagger outrage.

  • http://nike2422.livejournal.com/ Hoi Polloi

    Raw Story is wrong, Sarah Palin’s website no longer has this image. http://twitpic.com/3o7pgo

    Bitch has blood on her hands. I know it’s too much to hope she will crawl under an oil-slicked rock in Alaska somewhere and never be seen or heard from again. She has more pain and suffering to inflict on this country.

  • http://nike2422.livejournal.com/ Hoi Polloi

    Raw Story is wrong, Sarah Palin’s website no longer has this image. http://twitpic.com/3o7pgo

    Bitch has blood on her hands. I know it’s too much to hope she will crawl under an oil-slicked rock in Alaska somewhere and never be seen or heard from again. She has more pain and suffering to inflict on this country.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/RepublicConstitution?feature=mhum TruthRegimes

    Just another kook. I am sure this will be used to ban guns, blanket amnesty, to demonize some group of people, etc. Government never lets a crisis go to waste. The left, who always says not to criticize groups, will use this to vilify all white, young, males or “rightwingers” or Tea Party types or Republicans because that is what is politically useful to them. When the reality is that whoever did this is just some sick whacko.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/RepublicConstitution?feature=mhum TruthRegimes

    Just another kook. I am sure this will be used to ban guns, blanket amnesty, to demonize some group of people, etc. Government never lets a crisis go to waste. The left, who always says not to criticize groups, will use this to vilify all white, young, males or “rightwingers” or Tea Party types or Republicans because that is what is politically useful to them. When the reality is that whoever did this is just some sick whacko.

  • Anonymous

    what of the others that were shot…. just to pick out one person because she he so called important …. wrong…

  • Anonymous

    what of the others that were shot…. just to pick out one person because she he so called important …. wrong…

  • Anonymous

    “RE-LOAD”….Palin’s favorite word…….well, someone did.

  • Anonymous

    “RE-LOAD”….Palin’s favorite word…….well, someone did.

  • Anonymous

    I knew this was coming…it was only a matter of time before some bat shit right -wing crazy…listening to Palin, Gingrich, Limbaugh, Beck, Angle, etc. and their damn “second amendment remedies”, the lunacy…the right-wing vitriol, the racial hatred, the intolerance, add easy access to weapons, and an “open carry law” (pushed by the NRA and their Corporate paid-for Congressional lackeys) all converging….something like this was bound to happen…. now, watch the right-wing close ranks, cover their butts, murmur their sympathies… “how tragic”, then Corporate bought and paid for “news media” (especially FOX) will also cover the butts of those who are really responsible and behind this wicked act… the hateful right-wing who have incited these right-wing tea-bag crazies…(Thanks a bunch you piece of sh*t, McCain…!)

  • Anonymous

    I knew this was coming…it was only a matter of time before some bat shit right -wing crazy…listening to Palin, Gingrich, Limbaugh, Beck, Angle, etc. and their damn “second amendment remedies”, the lunacy…the right-wing vitriol, the racial hatred, the intolerance, add easy access to weapons, and an “open carry law” (pushed by the NRA and their Corporate paid-for Congressional lackeys) all converging….something like this was bound to happen…. now, watch the right-wing close ranks, cover their butts, murmur their sympathies… “how tragic”, then Corporate bought and paid for “news media” (especially FOX) will also cover the butts of those who are really responsible and behind this wicked act… the hateful right-wing who have incited these right-wing tea-bag crazies…(Thanks a bunch you piece of sh*t, McCain…!)

  • Anonymous

    Nice to see other TequilaTreehouse fans on these RawStory boards…

  • Anonymous

    Nice to see other TequilaTreehouse fans on these RawStory boards…

  • Anonymous

    I long for the day when Right Wing AND Left Wing nutjobs all gather in one place and slaughter each other with hatchets while frothing at the mouth over their ‘ideals’.

    In fact I’ll pull up a lawn chair with party whistles and an ice cold Sierra Nevada..

  • Anonymous

    I long for the day when Right Wing AND Left Wing nutjobs all gather in one place and slaughter each other with hatchets while frothing at the mouth over their ‘ideals’.

    In fact I’ll pull up a lawn chair with party whistles and an ice cold Sierra Nevada..

  • Anonymous

    nice political camouflage job.

  • Anonymous

    nice political camouflage job.

  • Anonymous

    ugh

  • Anonymous

    ugh

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_PZPpWTRTU Bamboo_Harvester

    Bingo

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_PZPpWTRTU Bamboo_Harvester

    Bingo

  • Anonymous

    This is absolutely tragic.

    It is also tragic that born-agin, Bible-believin’ conservative Christians see NOTHING wrong with this.

  • Anonymous

    This is absolutely tragic.

    It is also tragic that born-agin, Bible-believin’ conservative Christians see NOTHING wrong with this.

  • Anonymous

    Gee I am shocked, Sarah Palin’s hit list? I would say Sarah Palin needs to be arrested for conspiracy to commit murder. You can’t just go on national tv and say these people are on my hit list and then eat a peanut butter and jelly sandwich like nothing happened

  • Anonymous

    Gee I am shocked, Sarah Palin’s hit list? I would say Sarah Palin needs to be arrested for conspiracy to commit murder. You can’t just go on national tv and say these people are on my hit list and then eat a peanut butter and jelly sandwich like nothing happened

  • Anonymous

    was boner crying when he made his statement ?

  • Anonymous

    Shut up you piece of sh*t…YOU are one of those, who are most responsible for this tragedy

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Alan-Flatt/764419858 Alan Flatt

    last I checked, child execution is fine by Tea baggers

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Alan-Flatt/764419858 Alan Flatt

    last I checked, child execution is fine by Tea baggers

  • Anonymous

    Thanks also, the ad is very suspicious someone to shoot her? Disturbing and potentially liable. The map with military cross hairs on targets is also damaging and raises one’s suspicions.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks also, the ad is very suspicious someone to shoot her? Disturbing and potentially liable. The map with military cross hairs on targets is also damaging and raises one’s suspicions.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KFOFZHLUNJCQATOHPSVHSFKP3I pw

    Hey if you dont see it, and refuse to do the research yourself which is far more information than any “official” story, then I cant help you. Mind control is real. It has been for thousands of years.

    Also, I am not a teabagger. This is a buzzword used to program you. You are fully controlled, as your statement shows.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KFOFZHLUNJCQATOHPSVHSFKP3I pw

    Hey if you dont see it, and refuse to do the research yourself which is far more information than any “official” story, then I cant help you. Mind control is real. It has been for thousands of years.

    Also, I am not a teabagger. This is a buzzword used to program you. You are fully controlled, as your statement shows.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3KIGXAIT4M6ZZFDPV3K4YRRH2U Mitch Camstein

    Somebody explain to me why a Teabagger should ever again be permitted to board a plane in this country.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3KIGXAIT4M6ZZFDPV3K4YRRH2U Mitch Camstein

    Somebody explain to me why a Teabagger should ever again be permitted to board a plane in this country.

  • Anonymous

    Jesus fuck alright already we get it…. You do not have to hammer people here over and over and over and over and over and ovr and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over with the same fucking god damm thing. We are not Fox news listeners here.

  • Anonymous

    Jesus fuck alright already we get it…. You do not have to hammer people here over and over and over and over and over and ovr and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over with the same fucking god damm thing. We are not Fox news listeners here.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Fritz-Lentz/100000680544297 Fritz Lentz

    bullshit

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Fritz-Lentz/100000680544297 Fritz Lentz

    bullshit

  • Ron

    The Tea Party, and their leaders, are responsible.

  • Ron

    The Tea Party, and their leaders, are responsible.

  • Anonymous

    I agree with you that all our thoughts (and prayers for those so inclined) are with Gabriell Giffords.
    This is a sorry reflection on the deplorable state of our country that hate speech has devolved us to.

    One the subject of hate speech I noted your link “http://www.fuckthesouth.com/” and also would like to point out I don’t recall seeing any mention of Texas or the south in the story.

    So are you a part of the problem as well?

  • Anonymous

    I agree with you that all our thoughts (and prayers for those so inclined) are with Gabriell Giffords.
    This is a sorry reflection on the deplorable state of our country that hate speech has devolved us to.

    One the subject of hate speech I noted your link “http://www.fuckthesouth.com/” and also would like to point out I don’t recall seeing any mention of Texas or the south in the story.

    So are you a part of the problem as well?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Valentine/1277133078 Michael Valentine

    Arizona? The zonies are on the loose eh?

    What does anyone expect in a culture that encourages open carry and automatic rifles in the streets? I wouldn’t be back to Arizona any time soon, they will not miss me I know but there it is.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Valentine/1277133078 Michael Valentine

    Arizona? The zonies are on the loose eh?

    What does anyone expect in a culture that encourages open carry and automatic rifles in the streets? I wouldn’t be back to Arizona any time soon, they will not miss me I know but there it is.

  • Anonymous

    incredible stupidity mixed with a giant ego and an inferiority complex holding a gun, all with a public speaking platform, very, very dangerous!

  • Anonymous

    incredible stupidity mixed with a giant ego and an inferiority complex holding a gun, all with a public speaking platform, very, very dangerous!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Fritz-Lentz/100000680544297 Fritz Lentz

    no you communist are responsible

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Fritz-Lentz/100000680544297 Fritz Lentz

    no you communist are responsible

  • Anonymous

    Shameless of Palin to feign sadness over this, as if she had no part in it.

  • Anonymous

    Shameless of Palin to feign sadness over this, as if she had no part in it.

  • ghostof911

    I first learned about it from an NYT notice, so its out there.

    Better question , why is the report of the US delivering an Iraqi weapons factor to al Qaeda not being picked up by the corporate media?

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/07/iraq-weapons-factory-al-qaida-us-failure

  • Ron

    Incitement

  • ghostof911

    I first learned about it from an NYT notice, so its out there.

    Better question , why is the report of the US delivering an Iraqi weapons factor to al Qaeda not being picked up by the corporate media?

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/07/iraq-weapons-factory-al-qaida-us-failure

  • Anonymous

    The New York Post:
    Her father Spencer Giffords, 75, wept when asked if his 40-year-old daughter had any enemies.
    “Yeah,” he told The Post. “The whole tea party.”

  • Anonymous

    The New York Post:
    Her father Spencer Giffords, 75, wept when asked if his 40-year-old daughter had any enemies.
    “Yeah,” he told The Post. “The whole tea party.”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KFOFZHLUNJCQATOHPSVHSFKP3I pw

    He was 21. And more often these kids are being given weapons, money and drugs by the FBI as they were recently caught doing.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KFOFZHLUNJCQATOHPSVHSFKP3I pw

    He was 21. And more often these kids are being given weapons, money and drugs by the FBI as they were recently caught doing.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Fritz-Lentz/100000680544297 Fritz Lentz

    i feel the same way about communist and liberals keep them off planes

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Fritz-Lentz/100000680544297 Fritz Lentz

    i feel the same way about communist and liberals keep them off planes

  • Ron

    Move to Switzerland

  • Ron

    Move to Switzerland

  • http://www.thedonkeyedge.com SF

    Coincidence? Here’s Palin’s hit list. http://thedonkeyedge.com/2011/01/08/coincidence/

  • http://www.thedonkeyedge.com SF

    Coincidence? Here’s Palin’s hit list. http://thedonkeyedge.com/2011/01/08/coincidence/

  • Anonymous

    Outrage. Go after the Tea Party. An assassination ordered by whom? Palin and her targets? the Koch brothers?

  • Anonymous

    Outrage. Go after the Tea Party. An assassination ordered by whom? Palin and her targets? the Koch brothers?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_PZPpWTRTU Bamboo_Harvester

    Get lost POS!

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_PZPpWTRTU Bamboo_Harvester

    Get lost POS!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KFOFZHLUNJCQATOHPSVHSFKP3I pw

    REMEMBER THIS? FBI TRAINING DOMESTIC TERRORIST TO UNLEASH ON US:

    http://rt.com/usa/news/fbi-usa-terrorism-portland/

    There is a good chance this shooter was a patsy. They are mind controlling us through fear to accept the police state. This has happened all throughout history. It happens relentlessly worldwide.

    Now they have framed the american people, cause irrational in fighting, and are ready to move in on us.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KFOFZHLUNJCQATOHPSVHSFKP3I pw

    REMEMBER THIS? FBI TRAINING DOMESTIC TERRORIST TO UNLEASH ON US:

    http://rt.com/usa/news/fbi-usa-terrorism-portland/

    There is a good chance this shooter was a patsy. They are mind controlling us through fear to accept the police state. This has happened all throughout history. It happens relentlessly worldwide.

    Now they have framed the american people, cause irrational in fighting, and are ready to move in on us.

  • Anonymous

    So sorry that such a thing happened.
    SEEDS OF HATRED sown by Republican “hate publicists­” to manipulate
    the public’s emotional passions DO NOT HELP US.
    This is just one example of the results of their manipulati­ve hate campaigns.

  • Anonymous

    So sorry that such a thing happened.
    SEEDS OF HATRED sown by Republican “hate publicists­” to manipulate
    the public’s emotional passions DO NOT HELP US.
    This is just one example of the results of their manipulati­ve hate campaigns.

  • Anonymous

    Sarah Palin, you have blood on your hands.

  • Anonymous

    Sarah Palin, you have blood on your hands.

  • rrkahuna

    Truly frightening, the kind of event that happens in banana republics. Is this what Sarah and the rest of the tea party have in mind for the future of America? God help us all.

  • Anonymous

    Absolutely right, 12 people have been shot. People say 20 shots were fired, a tragedy beyond comprehension. Yet, one has to ask, was this politically motivated or some madman on a killing rampage of innocent bystanders?

  • rrkahuna

    Truly frightening, the kind of event that happens in banana republics. Is this what Sarah and the rest of the tea party have in mind for the future of America? God help us all.

  • jimbowski

    The Japanese had Pearl Harbor. The Tea Party has today’s killing of a congresswoman. Tea party wants war. It’s war we shall give them.

  • jimbowski

    The Japanese had Pearl Harbor. The Tea Party has today’s killing of a congresswoman. Tea party wants war. It’s war we shall give them.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3KIGXAIT4M6ZZFDPV3K4YRRH2U Mitch Camstein

    Why, because they’ve never shot anybody? What a moron.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3KIGXAIT4M6ZZFDPV3K4YRRH2U Mitch Camstein

    Why, because they’ve never shot anybody? What a moron.

  • Anonymous

    Guns don’t kill people; right wing sociopaths with guns kill people.

  • Anonymous

    Guns don’t kill people; right wing sociopaths with guns kill people.

  • Anonymous

    DOWN THE SH*TTY TEA PARTY.
    A FAKE that’s bought and paid for by billionaire Koch Brothers
    for their biz interests. They want to take over America and will
    stop at nothing. As we can see.

  • Anonymous

    DOWN THE SH*TTY TEA PARTY.
    A FAKE that’s bought and paid for by billionaire Koch Brothers
    for their biz interests. They want to take over America and will
    stop at nothing. As we can see.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_PZPpWTRTU Bamboo_Harvester

    It was only a matter of time ~ Repukes Kill Folks all the time !

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_PZPpWTRTU Bamboo_Harvester

    It was only a matter of time ~ Repukes Kill Folks all the time !

  • Anonymous

    Like Jams Earl Ray, like baby killer Timothy Mcveigh, Like Lee Harvey Oswald and the little fatboy who shot at Reagan. They all thought they would be hailed as heroes… Now this creep. Palin is a Jihadist.

  • Anonymous

    Like Jams Earl Ray, like baby killer Timothy Mcveigh, Like Lee Harvey Oswald and the little fatboy who shot at Reagan. They all thought they would be hailed as heroes… Now this creep. Palin is a Jihadist.

  • tsuki

    Here is something interesting from upcoming events during the election:

    6/12/10 Get on Target for Victory in November. Help remove Gabrielle Giffords from office. Shoot a fully automatic M16 with Jesse Kelly.

  • tsuki

    Here is something interesting from upcoming events during the election:

    6/12/10 Get on Target for Victory in November. Help remove Gabrielle Giffords from office. Shoot a fully automatic M16 with Jesse Kelly.

  • Pelu Maad

    Noooo….a white guy?…..Who’a thunk it?

  • Pelu Maad

    Noooo….a white guy?…..Who’a thunk it?

  • ghostof911

    Are you referring to the war in which the US delivered a weapons factory to the enemy so it could use the weapons to kill American troops?

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/07/iraq-weapons-factory-al-qaida-us-failure

  • ghostof911

    Are you referring to the war in which the US delivered a weapons factory to the enemy so it could use the weapons to kill American troops?

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/07/iraq-weapons-factory-al-qaida-us-failure

  • ghostof911

    Are you referring to the war in which the US delivered a weapons factory to the enemy so it could use the weapons to kill American troops?

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/07/iraq-weapons-factory-al-qaida-us-failure

  • Pelu Maad

    2nd amendment solution?

  • Pelu Maad

    2nd amendment solution?

  • Pelu Maad

    2nd amendment solution?

  • Anonymous

    If you pray, please send her your prayers or just you best thoughts. This is tragic. Sarah Palin, you should be hiding your head in shame.

  • Anonymous

    If you pray, please send her your prayers or just you best thoughts. This is tragic. Sarah Palin, you should be hiding your head in shame.

  • Anonymous

    Shot point blank in the head, other Democrats targeted as well. Smells like a RepubliBagger hit job to me.

    The blood is on ALL THEIR HANDS NOW.

  • Anonymous

    Shot point blank in the head, other Democrats targeted as well. Smells like a RepubliBagger hit job to me.

    The blood is on ALL THEIR HANDS NOW.

  • Anonymous

    Shot point blank in the head, other Democrats targeted as well. Smells like a RepubliBagger hit job to me.

    The blood is on ALL THEIR HANDS NOW.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FGXCARS3WJKDWGGWBSOKAPH5RQ Dennis

    It’s disgusting that the right-wing posters (teabaggers) and soon the media will try and justify this shooting. It’s the liberal’s fault because we are destroying America in their insane asylum little brains they live in. This will just add to their paranoia and they will be going out in droves again to buy more ammo. We have a mental health epidemic in our country I believe. And the crazies are in charge (Palin, Hannity, Beck, Bachmann, Angle, Jan Brewer, FOX, etc….).

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FGXCARS3WJKDWGGWBSOKAPH5RQ Dennis

    It’s disgusting that the right-wing posters (teabaggers) and soon the media will try and justify this shooting. It’s the liberal’s fault because we are destroying America in their insane asylum little brains they live in. This will just add to their paranoia and they will be going out in droves again to buy more ammo. We have a mental health epidemic in our country I believe. And the crazies are in charge (Palin, Hannity, Beck, Bachmann, Angle, Jan Brewer, FOX, etc….).

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FGXCARS3WJKDWGGWBSOKAPH5RQ Dennis

    It’s disgusting that the right-wing posters (teabaggers) and soon the media will try and justify this shooting. It’s the liberal’s fault because we are destroying America in their insane asylum little brains they live in. This will just add to their paranoia and they will be going out in droves again to buy more ammo. We have a mental health epidemic in our country I believe. And the crazies are in charge (Palin, Hannity, Beck, Bachmann, Angle, Jan Brewer, FOX, etc….).

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/RepublicConstitution?feature=mhum TruthRegimes

    From infowars:

    “So who is responsible for this terrible and tragic shooting? It is all speculation at the time of writing, but already the news has mentioned the possibility of “terrorism.” With so many other psuedo-events in the War on Terror lately, including package bombs, FBI stings and set-ups and the like, it is entirely possible this was a false-flag event designed to clampdown on gun ownership or simply stoke the fear of radical Muslim or homegrown terrorists.

    A better guess might be border-related violence. Our early research shows that Rep. Giffords, a moderate Democrat, had supported tough border control and was pro-2nd Amendment. In particular, she supported the controversial SB 1070 Arizona bill to combat illegal immigration. Was she targeted by a Mexican drug gang or supporter of La Reconquista? We know that politicians, police, border guards and ranchers/land owners have been targeted, killed or had bounties put out on them by such gangs on BOTH sides of the border.

    Or: Was Giffords targeted by a Schizophrenic or unbalanced, deranged and disgruntled political supporter? Media Matters has lambasted Sarah Palin and her PAC for putting “crosshairs” on political opponents and ‘inciting violence.’ Among those “targeted” by Palin’s crosshairs is Rep. Giffords. Did a deranged supporter twist the political rhetoric and take things too far for unknown reasons? Obviously, we simply do not know at this point.

    Further, a gun-related incident occurred a Giffords’ town hall meeting in 2009 where an attendee ‘dropped’ a gun provoking a scare.

    Statement from Alex Jones: Whatever the motivation for this shooting, our hearts go out to the the Congresswoman’s family and supporters. It is important to note that, the anti-2nd Amendment, victim disarmament crowd will undoubtedly try to use this event to demonize gun owners and further restrictive legislation. Mexico has a total gun ban, and the worst record for killed and kidnapped politicians and other high-level figures in the world. With more than 28,000 dead in Mexico from the drug war, it is clear that leaving guns only in the hands of the cartels and criminals will only make us all vulnerable.”

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/RepublicConstitution?feature=mhum TruthRegimes

    From infowars:

    “So who is responsible for this terrible and tragic shooting? It is all speculation at the time of writing, but already the news has mentioned the possibility of “terrorism.” With so many other psuedo-events in the War on Terror lately, including package bombs, FBI stings and set-ups and the like, it is entirely possible this was a false-flag event designed to clampdown on gun ownership or simply stoke the fear of radical Muslim or homegrown terrorists.

    A better guess might be border-related violence. Our early research shows that Rep. Giffords, a moderate Democrat, had supported tough border control and was pro-2nd Amendment. In particular, she supported the controversial SB 1070 Arizona bill to combat illegal immigration. Was she targeted by a Mexican drug gang or supporter of La Reconquista? We know that politicians, police, border guards and ranchers/land owners have been targeted, killed or had bounties put out on them by such gangs on BOTH sides of the border.

    Or: Was Giffords targeted by a Schizophrenic or unbalanced, deranged and disgruntled political supporter? Media Matters has lambasted Sarah Palin and her PAC for putting “crosshairs” on political opponents and ‘inciting violence.’ Among those “targeted” by Palin’s crosshairs is Rep. Giffords. Did a deranged supporter twist the political rhetoric and take things too far for unknown reasons? Obviously, we simply do not know at this point.

    Further, a gun-related incident occurred a Giffords’ town hall meeting in 2009 where an attendee ‘dropped’ a gun provoking a scare.

    Statement from Alex Jones: Whatever the motivation for this shooting, our hearts go out to the the Congresswoman’s family and supporters. It is important to note that, the anti-2nd Amendment, victim disarmament crowd will undoubtedly try to use this event to demonize gun owners and further restrictive legislation. Mexico has a total gun ban, and the worst record for killed and kidnapped politicians and other high-level figures in the world. With more than 28,000 dead in Mexico from the drug war, it is clear that leaving guns only in the hands of the cartels and criminals will only make us all vulnerable.”

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/RepublicConstitution?feature=mhum TruthRegimes

    From infowars:

    “So who is responsible for this terrible and tragic shooting? It is all speculation at the time of writing, but already the news has mentioned the possibility of “terrorism.” With so many other psuedo-events in the War on Terror lately, including package bombs, FBI stings and set-ups and the like, it is entirely possible this was a false-flag event designed to clampdown on gun ownership or simply stoke the fear of radical Muslim or homegrown terrorists.

    A better guess might be border-related violence. Our early research shows that Rep. Giffords, a moderate Democrat, had supported tough border control and was pro-2nd Amendment. In particular, she supported the controversial SB 1070 Arizona bill to combat illegal immigration. Was she targeted by a Mexican drug gang or supporter of La Reconquista? We know that politicians, police, border guards and ranchers/land owners have been targeted, killed or had bounties put out on them by such gangs on BOTH sides of the border.

    Or: Was Giffords targeted by a Schizophrenic or unbalanced, deranged and disgruntled political supporter? Media Matters has lambasted Sarah Palin and her PAC for putting “crosshairs” on political opponents and ‘inciting violence.’ Among those “targeted” by Palin’s crosshairs is Rep. Giffords. Did a deranged supporter twist the political rhetoric and take things too far for unknown reasons? Obviously, we simply do not know at this point.

    Further, a gun-related incident occurred a Giffords’ town hall meeting in 2009 where an attendee ‘dropped’ a gun provoking a scare.

    Statement from Alex Jones: Whatever the motivation for this shooting, our hearts go out to the the Congresswoman’s family and supporters. It is important to note that, the anti-2nd Amendment, victim disarmament crowd will undoubtedly try to use this event to demonize gun owners and further restrictive legislation. Mexico has a total gun ban, and the worst record for killed and kidnapped politicians and other high-level figures in the world. With more than 28,000 dead in Mexico from the drug war, it is clear that leaving guns only in the hands of the cartels and criminals will only make us all vulnerable.”

  • Anonymous

    Wow, people calling for collective punishment, gun bans, retribution, accusing MULTIPLE people of being guilty, left wing styled McCarthyism….

    Somehow Illegal Immigration got in the debate now…..wtf?

    And all we STILL know is a white kid opened fire on a Rep and a crowd of people.

    I guess it doesn’t take much to stir the masses into an emotion based frenzy.

    Suckers all of us.

  • Anonymous

    Wow, people calling for collective punishment, gun bans, retribution, accusing MULTIPLE people of being guilty, left wing styled McCarthyism….

    Somehow Illegal Immigration got in the debate now…..wtf?

    And all we STILL know is a white kid opened fire on a Rep and a crowd of people.

    I guess it doesn’t take much to stir the masses into an emotion based frenzy.

    Suckers all of us.

  • Anonymous

    Wow, people calling for collective punishment, gun bans, retribution, accusing MULTIPLE people of being guilty, left wing styled McCarthyism….

    Somehow Illegal Immigration got in the debate now…..wtf?

    And all we STILL know is a white kid opened fire on a Rep and a crowd of people.

    I guess it doesn’t take much to stir the masses into an emotion based frenzy.

    Suckers all of us.

  • Anonymous

    This is beyond tragic! I find it strange that two Congressional women are in the news hours apart. Very tragic, and I feel sorrow for the families of all the victims. I do find Sarah Palin’s target list with military cross hairs, even more suspicious and disgusting. I hope it is only a coincidence because this behavior is intolerable for someone running for President.

  • Anonymous

    This is beyond tragic! I find it strange that two Congressional women are in the news hours apart. Very tragic, and I feel sorrow for the families of all the victims. I do find Sarah Palin’s target list with military cross hairs, even more suspicious and disgusting. I hope it is only a coincidence because this behavior is intolerable for someone running for President.

  • Anonymous

    This is beyond tragic! I find it strange that two Congressional women are in the news hours apart. Very tragic, and I feel sorrow for the families of all the victims. I do find Sarah Palin’s target list with military cross hairs, even more suspicious and disgusting. I hope it is only a coincidence because this behavior is intolerable for someone running for President.

  • Benway for the Nova Police

    “I am horrified by the senseless attack on Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords and members of her staff. An attack on one who serves is an attack on all who serve. Acts and threats of violence against public officials have no place in our society. Our prayers are with Congresswoman Giffords, her staff, all who were injured, and their families. This is a sad day for our country.”

    Wait till we hear this wacko listens to Bill O’Reilly and Rush Limbaugh and that he was doing what they told him to do. Goddamned Boner should keep his bloody pie hole shut.

  • Benway for the Nova Police

    “I am horrified by the senseless attack on Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords and members of her staff. An attack on one who serves is an attack on all who serve. Acts and threats of violence against public officials have no place in our society. Our prayers are with Congresswoman Giffords, her staff, all who were injured, and their families. This is a sad day for our country.”

    Wait till we hear this wacko listens to Bill O’Reilly and Rush Limbaugh and that he was doing what they told him to do. Goddamned Boner should keep his bloody pie hole shut.

  • Benway for the Nova Police

    “I am horrified by the senseless attack on Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords and members of her staff. An attack on one who serves is an attack on all who serve. Acts and threats of violence against public officials have no place in our society. Our prayers are with Congresswoman Giffords, her staff, all who were injured, and their families. This is a sad day for our country.”

    Wait till we hear this wacko listens to Bill O’Reilly and Rush Limbaugh and that he was doing what they told him to do. Goddamned Boner should keep his bloody pie hole shut.

  • Anonymous

    I like how the feeble minded always say “they’re all the same” when a right winger consummates the gnarled up hate festering in their twisted little hearts. Completely without foundation parrot. Weirdo.

  • Anonymous

    I like how the feeble minded always say “they’re all the same” when a right winger consummates the gnarled up hate festering in their twisted little hearts. Completely without foundation parrot. Weirdo.

  • Anonymous

    I like how the feeble minded always say “they’re all the same” when a right winger consummates the gnarled up hate festering in their twisted little hearts. Completely without foundation parrot. Weirdo.

  • Anonymous

    It is difficult to sometimes lump things together, because that’s not the whole picture. Plenty of good people in both states. But, look at the direction these states are headed in. You realize it is not by coincidence either, the puritans left the northest and settled in texas and this bit of history is now coming home to roost!

  • Anonymous

    It is difficult to sometimes lump things together, because that’s not the whole picture. Plenty of good people in both states. But, look at the direction these states are headed in. You realize it is not by coincidence either, the puritans left the northest and settled in texas and this bit of history is now coming home to roost!

  • Anonymous

    It is difficult to sometimes lump things together, because that’s not the whole picture. Plenty of good people in both states. But, look at the direction these states are headed in. You realize it is not by coincidence either, the puritans left the northest and settled in texas and this bit of history is now coming home to roost!

  • Johnny Warbucks

    My browser opens up to Yahoo so I always take a peak in there just to see what the crazies are doing. I consider them to be the official mouthpiece for the corporate media and didn’t see it there. I was wondering why. The piece you mention is self-explanatory and will not see them touch that one for obvious reason. However, I’d think that they’d be milking this other incident already. That ought to make the crazies really, really exited. They salivate at the sight of libural blood being spilled.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    My browser opens up to Yahoo so I always take a peak in there just to see what the crazies are doing. I consider them to be the official mouthpiece for the corporate media and didn’t see it there. I was wondering why. The piece you mention is self-explanatory and will not see them touch that one for obvious reason. However, I’d think that they’d be milking this other incident already. That ought to make the crazies really, really exited. They salivate at the sight of libural blood being spilled.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KFOFZHLUNJCQATOHPSVHSFKP3I pw

    Man…Look at most of these comments…They want to take down anyone who even resembles a teabagger. They are blaming each other just like is intended. I need to hammer sorry.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    My browser opens up to Yahoo so I always take a peak in there just to see what the crazies are doing. I consider them to be the official mouthpiece for the corporate media and didn’t see it there. I was wondering why. The piece you mention is self-explanatory and will not see them touch that one for obvious reason. However, I’d think that they’d be milking this other incident already. That ought to make the crazies really, really exited. They salivate at the sight of libural blood being spilled.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KFOFZHLUNJCQATOHPSVHSFKP3I pw

    Man…Look at most of these comments…They want to take down anyone who even resembles a teabagger. They are blaming each other just like is intended. I need to hammer sorry.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/RepublicConstitution?feature=mhum TruthRegimes

    Yeah, this woman was also a moderate leftist who actually wanted laws to regulate and restrict the open border issue. The rabig libs who are already blaming all rightwingers are ignoring the strong possibility that this guy was just a kook.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/RepublicConstitution?feature=mhum TruthRegimes

    Yeah, this woman was also a moderate leftist who actually wanted laws to regulate and restrict the open border issue. The rabig libs who are already blaming all rightwingers are ignoring the strong possibility that this guy was just a kook.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/RepublicConstitution?feature=mhum TruthRegimes

    Yeah, this woman was also a moderate leftist who actually wanted laws to regulate and restrict the open border issue. The rabig libs who are already blaming all rightwingers are ignoring the strong possibility that this guy was just a kook.

  • Anonymous

    How much more of this shit are we going to put up with before we ship these animals off to an island far away like a leper colony so they can’t hurt anyone else, but just kill each other off?!

  • Anonymous

    How much more of this shit are we going to put up with before we ship these animals off to an island far away like a leper colony so they can’t hurt anyone else, but just kill each other off?!

  • Anonymous

    How much more of this shit are we going to put up with before we ship these animals off to an island far away like a leper colony so they can’t hurt anyone else, but just kill each other off?!

  • ghostof911

    What’s your feeling that the kid gets Oswalded?

  • ghostof911

    What’s your feeling that the kid gets Oswalded?

  • ghostof911

    What’s your feeling that the kid gets Oswalded?

  • Anonymous

    Thank you for the link. EVERY PERSON involved with this campaign of destruction should be arrested and charged with intent to commit MURDER.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you for the link. EVERY PERSON involved with this campaign of destruction should be arrested and charged with intent to commit MURDER.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you for the link. EVERY PERSON involved with this campaign of destruction should be arrested and charged with intent to commit MURDER.

  • Anonymous

    Because she is a Congresswoman the Feds get to investigate this shooting which is better than having a right wing Arizona sheriff investigating.

    The right wing Arizona sheriffs are probably waterboarding the shooter right now as a way keep this off the teabaggers.

  • Anonymous

    Because she is a Congresswoman the Feds get to investigate this shooting which is better than having a right wing Arizona sheriff investigating.

    The right wing Arizona sheriffs are probably waterboarding the shooter right now as a way keep this off the teabaggers.

  • Anonymous

    Because she is a Congresswoman the Feds get to investigate this shooting which is better than having a right wing Arizona sheriff investigating.

    The right wing Arizona sheriffs are probably waterboarding the shooter right now as a way keep this off the teabaggers.

  • Anonymous

    All with connections to clandestine agencies and Government ops.

    You left that tidbit out there inspector Gadget.

  • Anonymous

    All with connections to clandestine agencies and Government ops.

    You left that tidbit out there inspector Gadget.

  • Anonymous

    All with connections to clandestine agencies and Government ops.

    You left that tidbit out there inspector Gadget.

  • Anonymous

    PNAC had 9/11, its Pearl Harbor.

  • Anonymous

    PNAC had 9/11, its Pearl Harbor.

  • Anonymous

    PNAC had 9/11, its Pearl Harbor.

  • bob915

    …who are ‘they’ ???????????? This woman is fighting for her life here. Please keep the black helicopter bullshit to yourself please. You are doing absolutely nothing but fanning a flame in your own head

  • bob915

    …who are ‘they’ ???????????? This woman is fighting for her life here. Please keep the black helicopter bullshit to yourself please. You are doing absolutely nothing but fanning a flame in your own head

  • bob915

    …who are ‘they’ ???????????? This woman is fighting for her life here. Please keep the black helicopter bullshit to yourself please. You are doing absolutely nothing but fanning a flame in your own head

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KFOFZHLUNJCQATOHPSVHSFKP3I pw

    The mind control is so strong, that when a moderate leftist congresswoman is killed by an unknown person….You are already on a witch hunt to attack all republican teabaggers.

    You are clearly warped by the media you hold so dear, and have never heard of DIVIDE and CONQUER. If you cant tell already, there is no difference in the course of america between dem and rep.

    The more your nation gets robbed, the more you turn on each other. Classic domination.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KFOFZHLUNJCQATOHPSVHSFKP3I pw

    The mind control is so strong, that when a moderate leftist congresswoman is killed by an unknown person….You are already on a witch hunt to attack all republican teabaggers.

    You are clearly warped by the media you hold so dear, and have never heard of DIVIDE and CONQUER. If you cant tell already, there is no difference in the course of america between dem and rep.

    The more your nation gets robbed, the more you turn on each other. Classic domination.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KFOFZHLUNJCQATOHPSVHSFKP3I pw

    The mind control is so strong, that when a moderate leftist congresswoman is killed by an unknown person….You are already on a witch hunt to attack all republican teabaggers.

    You are clearly warped by the media you hold so dear, and have never heard of DIVIDE and CONQUER. If you cant tell already, there is no difference in the course of america between dem and rep.

    The more your nation gets robbed, the more you turn on each other. Classic domination.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you nagamaki for your reply and clarification. I realize the shock of this terrorist event can bring out harsh worlds. You have my deepest respect for responding.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you nagamaki for your reply and clarification. I realize the shock of this terrorist event can bring out harsh worlds. You have my deepest respect for responding.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you nagamaki for your reply and clarification. I realize the shock of this terrorist event can bring out harsh worlds. You have my deepest respect for responding.

  • Anonymous

    …and now back to Dancing with the Stars.

  • Anonymous

    …and now back to Dancing with the Stars.

  • Anonymous

    …and now back to Dancing with the Stars.

  • Anonymous

    This is so unfortunate. But one of those teabaggers probably hearing Sharon Angle (R-NV) talk of so-called “2nd Amendment remedies” in campaign hate speak took a gun out to this Democrat re-elected in a hate state that despises immigrants and denies transplant surgeries to poor people. No concern from McCain yet either.

  • Anonymous

    This is so unfortunate. But one of those teabaggers probably hearing Sharon Angle (R-NV) talk of so-called “2nd Amendment remedies” in campaign hate speak took a gun out to this Democrat re-elected in a hate state that despises immigrants and denies transplant surgeries to poor people. No concern from McCain yet either.

  • jimbowski

    Video of Giffords saying: “Palin has crosshairs on our district; people have to realize there are consequences to that.”

    http://kateoplis.tumblr.com/post/2655554409/msnbc-talks-to-rep-gabrielle-gifford-about-the

  • jimbowski

    Video of Giffords saying: “Palin has crosshairs on our district; people have to realize there are consequences to that.”

    http://kateoplis.tumblr.com/post/2655554409/msnbc-talks-to-rep-gabrielle-gifford-about-the

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KFOFZHLUNJCQATOHPSVHSFKP3I pw

    Order out of chaos.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KFOFZHLUNJCQATOHPSVHSFKP3I pw

    Order out of chaos.

  • David R Velasquez

    What, about operations ‘MK Ultra’, ‘Mockingbird’…etc, etc? Gimme a break.
    You go to one or two websites and that makes you qualified to school the rest of us?
    I knew what ‘subliminal suggestion’ was decades ago when you were still getting your jollies from the Care Bears.

    You’re a rightwing troll…that much I know because I looked up your previous comments before I even started. My life is out there and you’re the one hiding behind vague profiles.
    I could itemize and source my statements…. but I really don’t see the need.
    If you think I’m controlled from my statements, then I guess I am..in your bizarro universe.
    The only controlled here is really you. You can’t even latch onto subtext…. either that or you’re a dishonest hack trying your own inept hand at disinfo.

    Go back to your Infowars/Planet Planet sites where your cardboard worldview is more appreciated.

  • David R Velasquez

    What, about operations ‘MK Ultra’, ‘Mockingbird’…etc, etc? Gimme a break.
    You go to one or two websites and that makes you qualified to school the rest of us?
    I knew what ‘subliminal suggestion’ was decades ago when you were still getting your jollies from the Care Bears.

    You’re a rightwing troll…that much I know because I looked up your previous comments before I even started. My life is out there and you’re the one hiding behind vague profiles.
    I could itemize and source my statements…. but I really don’t see the need.
    If you think I’m controlled from my statements, then I guess I am..in your bizarro universe.
    The only controlled here is really you. You can’t even latch onto subtext…. either that or you’re a dishonest hack trying your own inept hand at disinfo.

    Go back to your Infowars/Planet Planet sites where your cardboard worldview is more appreciated.

  • TheDevilCanDance

    What a remarkable jingoistic imbecile tool you really are,lol
    You keep mumbling about Commies, but without Chinese money, you`d selling your daughters to Saudi`s, to feed yourself, you loud mouth malcontent

  • TheDevilCanDance

    What a remarkable jingoistic imbecile tool you really are,lol
    You keep mumbling about Commies, but without Chinese money, you`d selling your daughters to Saudi`s, to feed yourself, you loud mouth malcontent

  • http://www.whereistheoutrage.net/wordpress/about/ EC Thompson, MD

    Extremely sad. My prayers are with her and her family.

  • http://www.whereistheoutrage.net/wordpress/about/ EC Thompson, MD

    Extremely sad. My prayers are with her and her family.

  • Anonymous

    Im surprised no one has mentioned one possible scenario.
    Think about it…. point blank? where were her security detail?
    Maybe this was a politically motivated hit, with some dumb patsy “lone gunman” in the midst.
    You already have your M.O., which everyone clearly sees, “Palin’s target.” They wont dig much deeper after that.
    Another possible motive? Well, she was all for immigration reform, higher minimum wage, benefits for the elderly and poor, etc, etc. It will also drive a wedge deeper into the fractured public psyche, helping fuel the “Divided Americans” myth. Above and beyond all, it will help boost the ratings of Palin’s ailing “Palin in the Wilderness show” or whatever the fükk its called.

  • Anonymous

    Im surprised no one has mentioned one possible scenario.
    Think about it…. point blank? where were her security detail?
    Maybe this was a politically motivated hit, with some dumb patsy “lone gunman” in the midst.
    You already have your M.O., which everyone clearly sees, “Palin’s target.” They wont dig much deeper after that.
    Another possible motive? Well, she was all for immigration reform, higher minimum wage, benefits for the elderly and poor, etc, etc. It will also drive a wedge deeper into the fractured public psyche, helping fuel the “Divided Americans” myth. Above and beyond all, it will help boost the ratings of Palin’s ailing “Palin in the Wilderness show” or whatever the fükk its called.

  • Anonymous

    What’s very important now is to interrogate question this early twenties WHITE killer ASAP and try to find out who or what influenced him to do this. I’m sure most of us strongly suspect already., but let’s get it on the record..

  • Anonymous

    What’s very important now is to interrogate question this early twenties WHITE killer ASAP and try to find out who or what influenced him to do this. I’m sure most of us strongly suspect already., but let’s get it on the record..

  • jack nichols

    No statement that the shooter was an illegal alien. Watch as the media cleverly dances around that issue. Were can we get the honest story?

  • jack nichols

    No statement that the shooter was an illegal alien. Watch as the media cleverly dances around that issue. Were can we get the honest story?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KFOFZHLUNJCQATOHPSVHSFKP3I pw

    Grow up. If you cant see crisis being exploited on all fronts to expand the security industrial complex and gang rape the american people, then you need to snap out of your trance.

    America is fighting to keep its pulse alive…it is very, very weak.

  • http://thebrainpolice.blogspot.com microdot

    See, TV is just like reality! Politics is just like Sarahs TV Show…You just get one of your production assistants to take down the prey and Ta Daaaa….! So simple….
    Then take down the hit list on the face book page and act suitably horrified…So simple, so easy!

  • http://thebrainpolice.blogspot.com microdot

    See, TV is just like reality! Politics is just like Sarahs TV Show…You just get one of your production assistants to take down the prey and Ta Daaaa….! So simple….
    Then take down the hit list on the face book page and act suitably horrified…So simple, so easy!

  • Anonymous

    Stop squawking, parrot. We dont know anything.

  • Anonymous

    Stop squawking, parrot. We dont know anything.

  • H.P. Loathecraft

    The Sarah Palin hit list just got shorter.

  • H.P. Loathecraft

    The Sarah Palin hit list just got shorter.

  • jimbowski

    If the shooter isn’t a white, right wing FREAK, I’ll give you one thousand dollars.

  • jimbowski

    If the shooter isn’t a white, right wing FREAK, I’ll give you one thousand dollars.

  • Anonymous

    This is beyond shame for the repugs and teabaggers and Faux news, et al. It was the
    right wing nutjobs calling for deaths of abortion providers, too. Palin should be tried for
    promoting violence, as should limbaugh, beck, hannity, murdock,ailes. They are no better
    than osama bin ladin. Palin will not comment or show her traiterous face for a while now.
    TLC should cancel her show, now, and all of her books should be burned.

  • Anonymous

    This is beyond shame for the repugs and teabaggers and Faux news, et al. It was the
    right wing nutjobs calling for deaths of abortion providers, too. Palin should be tried for
    promoting violence, as should limbaugh, beck, hannity, murdock,ailes. They are no better
    than osama bin ladin. Palin will not comment or show her traiterous face for a while now.
    TLC should cancel her show, now, and all of her books should be burned.

  • ghostof911

    I agree that the MSM is not likely to pick up this story, as it is potentially more damaging than conclusive proof that Bush and Cheney were responsible for 9/11. In the WTC attack it was only insignificant civilian proles who got snuffed. The intentional delivery of the weapons factory to al Qaeda directly led to deaths of countless American troops.

    I can understand why FAUX News isn’t running with this story, but why isn’t Raw Story picking it up?

    How the US let al-Qaida get its hands on an Iraqi weapons factory

  • ghostof911

    I agree that the MSM is not likely to pick up this story, as it is potentially more damaging than conclusive proof that Bush and Cheney were responsible for 9/11. In the WTC attack it was only insignificant civilian proles who got snuffed. The intentional delivery of the weapons factory to al Qaeda directly led to deaths of countless American troops.

    I can understand why FAUX News isn’t running with this story, but why isn’t Raw Story picking it up?

    How the US let al-Qaida get its hands on an Iraqi weapons factory

  • Anonymous

    that’s just it, take a look at the score card, JFK, RFK, MLK, John Lennon, ….,and the folks happy with mediocrity sitting on their lawn chairs help fuel the fires at both ends with their calous indifference towards what is happening to the world. Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. Martin Luther King, Jr

  • Anonymous

    that’s just it, take a look at the score card, JFK, RFK, MLK, John Lennon, ….,and the folks happy with mediocrity sitting on their lawn chairs help fuel the fires at both ends with their calous indifference towards what is happening to the world. Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. Martin Luther King, Jr

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KFOFZHLUNJCQATOHPSVHSFKP3I pw

    You are the one using programmed buzzwords. Get a brain. Make all the assumptions you want about me, that you think reinforce your reality.

    Grow up and turn the TV off. There are thousands of experts on the government control of its people, old and new, including government officials. If you dont bother to listen to them, and think I go to only 2 websites, then you are limiting your own potential to understand what is happening..

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KFOFZHLUNJCQATOHPSVHSFKP3I pw

    You are the one using programmed buzzwords. Get a brain. Make all the assumptions you want about me, that you think reinforce your reality.

    Grow up and turn the TV off. There are thousands of experts on the government control of its people, old and new, including government officials. If you dont bother to listen to them, and think I go to only 2 websites, then you are limiting your own potential to understand what is happening..

  • Anonymous

    You gave the troll what it wanted… a response. It is probably a bored 10 year old kid. Reply and it’s posts will multiply. Ignore it and it will go away.

  • Anonymous

    You gave the troll what it wanted… a response. It is probably a bored 10 year old kid. Reply and it’s posts will multiply. Ignore it and it will go away.

  • Anonymous

    You gave the troll what it wanted… a response. It is probably a bored 10 year old kid. Reply and it’s posts will multiply. Ignore it and it will go away.

  • Anonymous

    You gave the troll what it wanted… a response. It is probably a bored 10 year old kid. Reply and it’s posts will multiply. Ignore it and it will go away.

  • Anonymous

    So this is where it starts. Now all those who encouraged this behavior will step forward to express their grief and offer condolences. Too late, the line has been crossed.

  • http://SALON WHITE DRAGON

    “We’re not in Kansas anymore….” Now we’re down to the killing phase ….a direct result of the bile and filth that has passed for American political discourse. ‘Evil does, as evil thinks.’ This is phase 2.

  • http://www.whereistheoutrage.net/wordpress/2011/01/08/domestic-terrorism-rep-giffords-shot/ Where's the Outrage? » Domestic Terrorism – Rep. Giffords shot

    [...] From RS: [...]

  • Jaimie11

    Camouflage only to the biased blind.

  • Jaimie11

    Camouflage only to the biased blind.

  • Benway for the Nova Police

    Ten to one the FBI has already seized the security video and we will never see it.

  • Benway for the Nova Police

    Ten to one the FBI has already seized the security video and we will never see it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3KIGXAIT4M6ZZFDPV3K4YRRH2U Mitch Camstein

    Let me explain Communism to you: In a Communist society, people get tortured and murdered for political reasons by the people in charge, as with the Bush Administration and Iraq. In a Communist society, truth is carefully guarded by a state-run media whose employees are Communist Party agents, as with Fox News and the Republican Party. In a Communist society, history is rewritten to suit the interests of the people in charge, as with all Republicans and all American history. In other words, you support Communism to a far greater extent than anybody else here. You’re just too stupid to know it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3KIGXAIT4M6ZZFDPV3K4YRRH2U Mitch Camstein

    Let me explain Communism to you: In a Communist society, people get tortured and murdered for political reasons by the people in charge, as with the Bush Administration and Iraq. In a Communist society, truth is carefully guarded by a state-run media whose employees are Communist Party agents, as with Fox News and the Republican Party. In a Communist society, history is rewritten to suit the interests of the people in charge, as with all Republicans and all American history. In other words, you support Communism to a far greater extent than anybody else here. You’re just too stupid to know it.

  • Anonymous

    No one would have an interest in doing such a thing unless they were motivated and heavily influenced from something, and we all know where motivation for such an act would come from :

    Sarah Palin, Limbaugh, Beck, Fox News, every Repuke congressman, the GOP, the Neocons, all media outlets that give them a voice without questioning anything they say.

    Lots of trolls here on the defensive. You all know it too, you wanted this to happen, all you teabaggers deserve to get fucked over.

  • Anonymous

    No one would have an interest in doing such a thing unless they were motivated and heavily influenced from something, and we all know where motivation for such an act would come from :

    Sarah Palin, Limbaugh, Beck, Fox News, every Repuke congressman, the GOP, the Neocons, all media outlets that give them a voice without questioning anything they say.

    Lots of trolls here on the defensive. You all know it too, you wanted this to happen, all you teabaggers deserve to get fucked over.

  • Anonymous

    Clearly passing out guns to everyone like they were a sack of M&M’s, … in a insane republican state,… well this is what you get.

    10:1, … it’s a tea-bagger that pulled the trigger if she was on failin palins list.

  • Anonymous

    Clearly passing out guns to everyone like they were a sack of M&M’s, … in a insane republican state,… well this is what you get.

    10:1, … it’s a tea-bagger that pulled the trigger if she was on failin palins list.

  • Benway for the Nova Police

    Yeah, the people’s right to hunt squirrels with automatic rifles should be protected at all cost.

    Alex Jones is a CIA counter insurgency tool.

  • Benway for the Nova Police

    Yeah, the people’s right to hunt squirrels with automatic rifles should be protected at all cost.

    Alex Jones is a CIA counter insurgency tool.

  • Anonymous

    I’m not living.

  • Anonymous

    I’m not living.

  • Anonymous

    Right Wing shit always provokes the dim-witted, which leads to assassinations, which the RW knows will happen. It’s astounding there haven’t been more. The RW is a bunch of freaks, but still has millions of followers in America. That’s friggin’ scary.

  • Anonymous

    Right Wing shit always provokes the dim-witted, which leads to assassinations, which the RW knows will happen. It’s astounding there haven’t been more. The RW is a bunch of freaks, but still has millions of followers in America. That’s friggin’ scary.

  • http://SALON WHITE DRAGON

    We now emerge on the ‘politically correct’ phase of political assasination. Killer description ,please!

  • http://SALON WHITE DRAGON

    We now emerge on the ‘politically correct’ phase of political assasination. Killer description ,please!

  • Benway for the Nova Police

    We don’t need no stinkin’ prayers. They are a waste of breath.

  • Benway for the Nova Police

    We don’t need no stinkin’ prayers. They are a waste of breath.

  • hounddogg

    “Jared Laughner”…thats an ” illegal alien” name if there ever was one!…

  • Anonymous

    Everyone of these incidents only serve to further the Police State agenda one more step at taking away any remaining liberties we have. Whether or not they are false flags I have no idea, but its stuff like this that helps them to justify 1) increased warrantless wiretaps, 2) further infiltration of body scanners everywhere, 3) gun control laws or outright confiscation, 4) Universal IDs or chipping, 5) CCTV cameras everywhere, 6) use of brutal police tactics, 7) labeling any opposition as “terrorist,” 8) indefinite detention, 9) loss of habeus corpus, 10) loss of Posse Commitatus (sp), 11) and so much more.

    Where will it stop? Not before global one world tyranny in my opinion. It may take a little more time but the direction is clear and inevitable. Once there is no more paper/coin currency and its all electronic you will be completely under their control and this phase I see in our near future.

    Prepare

  • Anonymous

    Everyone of these incidents only serve to further the Police State agenda one more step at taking away any remaining liberties we have. Whether or not they are false flags I have no idea, but its stuff like this that helps them to justify 1) increased warrantless wiretaps, 2) further infiltration of body scanners everywhere, 3) gun control laws or outright confiscation, 4) Universal IDs or chipping, 5) CCTV cameras everywhere, 6) use of brutal police tactics, 7) labeling any opposition as “terrorist,” 8) indefinite detention, 9) loss of habeus corpus, 10) loss of Posse Commitatus (sp), 11) and so much more.

    Where will it stop? Not before global one world tyranny in my opinion. It may take a little more time but the direction is clear and inevitable. Once there is no more paper/coin currency and its all electronic you will be completely under their control and this phase I see in our near future.

    Prepare

  • Benway for the Nova Police

    Yeah. It was just one of them lone nuts whose tax returns will remain top secret for the next century so we can’t find out who he was working for, like Oswald’s.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Fritz-Lentz/100000680544297 Fritz Lentz

    stop repeating yourself asshole we alll heard you

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Fritz-Lentz/100000680544297 Fritz Lentz

    stop repeating yourself asshole we alll heard you

  • PrissyPatriot

    Again, its ALWAYS right-wingers who are the most dangerous. Where are the Hitler’s and haters on the left (so claimed by righties) doing the killing throughout our American history?
    They scream about Marxism and Socialism (concepts they don’t even understand) and they kill people they believe espouse these ideas. Being Right-wing is a dangerous mental disorder.

  • PrissyPatriot

    Again, its ALWAYS right-wingers who are the most dangerous. Where are the Hitler’s and haters on the left (so claimed by righties) doing the killing throughout our American history?
    They scream about Marxism and Socialism (concepts they don’t even understand) and they kill people they believe espouse these ideas. Being Right-wing is a dangerous mental disorder.

  • samhoustonTX

    Political assassinations are happening weekly in Mexico, using guns from USA. Can’t be stopped because of NRA and GOP right wing nuts.

  • samhoustonTX

    Political assassinations are happening weekly in Mexico, using guns from USA. Can’t be stopped because of NRA and GOP right wing nuts.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    This just in from the corporate media (I know, big help):

    AP sources: Ariz. gunman ID’ed as Jared Laughner

    WASHINGTON – People familiar with the investigation tell The Associated Press that the gunman held in the shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords of Arizona and others has been identified as Jared Laughner.

    Little information is known immediately about Laughner — such as his background or a possible motive in the attack.

    U.S. officials who provided his name to the AP spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to release it publicly.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_congresswoman_shot_gunman;_ylt=Auoqhbld6jPGm.IocMXttXOs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTNsMzc5bG1sBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTEwMTA4L3VzX2NvbmdyZXNzd29tYW5fc2hvdARjY29kZQNtb3N0cG9wdWxhcgRjcG9zAzEEcG9zAzcEcHQDaG9tZV9jb2tlBHNlYwN5bl90b3Bfc3RvcnkEc2xrA2Fwc291cmNlc2FyaQ–

  • Johnny Warbucks

    This just in from the corporate media (I know, big help):

    AP sources: Ariz. gunman ID’ed as Jared Laughner

    WASHINGTON – People familiar with the investigation tell The Associated Press that the gunman held in the shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords of Arizona and others has been identified as Jared Laughner.

    Little information is known immediately about Laughner — such as his background or a possible motive in the attack.

    U.S. officials who provided his name to the AP spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to release it publicly.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_congresswoman_shot_gunman;_ylt=Auoqhbld6jPGm.IocMXttXOs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTNsMzc5bG1sBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTEwMTA4L3VzX2NvbmdyZXNzd29tYW5fc2hvdARjY29kZQNtb3N0cG9wdWxhcgRjcG9zAzEEcG9zAzcEcHQDaG9tZV9jb2tlBHNlYwN5bl90b3Bfc3RvcnkEc2xrA2Fwc291cmNlc2FyaQ–

  • Johnny Warbucks
  • Johnny Warbucks
  • Johnny Warbucks

    Even more scary is that it’s not just Amerika but the world over. Look at the EU, it’s being overrun by them. People of common sense are losing the fight, quickly.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Even more scary is that it’s not just Amerika but the world over. Look at the EU, it’s being overrun by them. People of common sense are losing the fight, quickly.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Even more scary is that it’s not just Amerika but the world over. Look at the EU, it’s being overrun by them. People of common sense are losing the fight, quickly.

  • Anonymous

    Judge Roll in 2009, faced death threats after presiding over a $32 million civil-rights lawsuit. The lawsuit was filed by illegal immigrants against an Arizona rancher. After Judge Roll ruled the case would be certified, threats came from talk-radio shows which fueled controversy and spurred audiences into making threats against the judge[2].
    The threats materialized after one show, Judge Roll’s name logged more than 200 phone calls as some callers threatened the judge and his family[2].

    This resulted in the judge and his wife were under a protection detail for one month as Judge Roll was given twenty four hours a day, seven days a week security by the US Marshals Service. An US Attorney’s investigation ruled that four men were identified as threat makers, but no charges were filed[2].

    In a July 9, 2009 interview with the Arizona Republic, Judge Roll described the time under high security as “unnerving and invasive. . . . By its nature it has to be,” Roll said. Roll also said, “It (the security) was handled very professionally by the Marshals Service.”[2]

    At the end of the month, Roll said four key men had been identified as threat makers[2].
    ↑ 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 “The Arizona Republic” U.S. judiciary facing rise in death threats, July 9, 2009

    http://judgepedia.org/index.php/John_Roll

  • Anonymous

    Judge Roll in 2009, faced death threats after presiding over a $32 million civil-rights lawsuit. The lawsuit was filed by illegal immigrants against an Arizona rancher. After Judge Roll ruled the case would be certified, threats came from talk-radio shows which fueled controversy and spurred audiences into making threats against the judge[2].
    The threats materialized after one show, Judge Roll’s name logged more than 200 phone calls as some callers threatened the judge and his family[2].

    This resulted in the judge and his wife were under a protection detail for one month as Judge Roll was given twenty four hours a day, seven days a week security by the US Marshals Service. An US Attorney’s investigation ruled that four men were identified as threat makers, but no charges were filed[2].

    In a July 9, 2009 interview with the Arizona Republic, Judge Roll described the time under high security as “unnerving and invasive. . . . By its nature it has to be,” Roll said. Roll also said, “It (the security) was handled very professionally by the Marshals Service.”[2]

    At the end of the month, Roll said four key men had been identified as threat makers[2].
    ↑ 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 “The Arizona Republic” U.S. judiciary facing rise in death threats, July 9, 2009

    http://judgepedia.org/index.php/John_Roll

  • Anonymous

    Judge Roll in 2009, faced death threats after presiding over a $32 million civil-rights lawsuit. The lawsuit was filed by illegal immigrants against an Arizona rancher. After Judge Roll ruled the case would be certified, threats came from talk-radio shows which fueled controversy and spurred audiences into making threats against the judge[2].
    The threats materialized after one show, Judge Roll’s name logged more than 200 phone calls as some callers threatened the judge and his family[2].

    This resulted in the judge and his wife were under a protection detail for one month as Judge Roll was given twenty four hours a day, seven days a week security by the US Marshals Service. An US Attorney’s investigation ruled that four men were identified as threat makers, but no charges were filed[2].

    In a July 9, 2009 interview with the Arizona Republic, Judge Roll described the time under high security as “unnerving and invasive. . . . By its nature it has to be,” Roll said. Roll also said, “It (the security) was handled very professionally by the Marshals Service.”[2]

    At the end of the month, Roll said four key men had been identified as threat makers[2].
    ↑ 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 “The Arizona Republic” U.S. judiciary facing rise in death threats, July 9, 2009

    http://judgepedia.org/index.php/John_Roll

  • http://biscuits007.wordpress.com/ SpitbucketBaptismo

    So, after the press conference at UMC in Tucson, Ms. Giffords is NOT dead. Press conference is live and streaming on KVOA Tucson. Ms. Giffords is in extremely critical condition and undergoing surgery. Doctor at UMC says “she’ll make it.”
    The RawStory initial screaming account of “ASSASSINATION” turns out to be just a shade off the mark. And yeah, RawStory was screaming that and since has changed their story.
    Golly, it’s good to get the facts ma’am nothing but the FACTS.
    There are any number of issues surrounding this mess. For RawStory to have been screaming “assassination” is mostly irresponsible.

  • http://biscuits007.wordpress.com/ SpitbucketBaptismo

    So, after the press conference at UMC in Tucson, Ms. Giffords is NOT dead. Press conference is live and streaming on KVOA Tucson. Ms. Giffords is in extremely critical condition and undergoing surgery. Doctor at UMC says “she’ll make it.”
    The RawStory initial screaming account of “ASSASSINATION” turns out to be just a shade off the mark. And yeah, RawStory was screaming that and since has changed their story.
    Golly, it’s good to get the facts ma’am nothing but the FACTS.
    There are any number of issues surrounding this mess. For RawStory to have been screaming “assassination” is mostly irresponsible.

  • http://biscuits007.wordpress.com/ SpitbucketBaptismo

    So, after the press conference at UMC in Tucson, Ms. Giffords is NOT dead. Press conference is live and streaming on KVOA Tucson. Ms. Giffords is in extremely critical condition and undergoing surgery. Doctor at UMC says “she’ll make it.”
    The RawStory initial screaming account of “ASSASSINATION” turns out to be just a shade off the mark. And yeah, RawStory was screaming that and since has changed their story.
    Golly, it’s good to get the facts ma’am nothing but the FACTS.
    There are any number of issues surrounding this mess. For RawStory to have been screaming “assassination” is mostly irresponsible.

  • jimbowski

    Eyewitnesses have described Laughner as “young, mid-to-late 20s, white, clean-shaven with short hair and wearing dark clothing.” Sounds like a tea bagger.

  • jimbowski

    Eyewitnesses have described Laughner as “young, mid-to-late 20s, white, clean-shaven with short hair and wearing dark clothing.” Sounds like a tea bagger.

  • jimbowski

    Eyewitnesses have described Laughner as “young, mid-to-late 20s, white, clean-shaven with short hair and wearing dark clothing.” Sounds like a tea bagger.

  • Benway for the Nova Police

    Thank you for that, Heinrich. How’s the beer hall putsch coming?

  • Benway for the Nova Police

    Thank you for that, Heinrich. How’s the beer hall putsch coming?

  • Benway for the Nova Police

    Thank you for that, Heinrich. How’s the beer hall putsch coming?

  • Anonymous

    Yah, the correct response is just to point the finger at Democrats. Democrats didn’t villify all young white males when Columbine happened or when the Oklahoma City bombing happened or when any other white person committed murder at a large scale. You’re reaching.

    The fact of the matter is, this could potentially be a person who has been heavily influenced by the violence Fox Noise and Tea Party Supporters like Palin have been inciting. Rep Giffords has been receiving death threats, has been harrassed, and had her office vandalized in the past. She is not the only democrat who has experienced violence on this scale.

    The only people that will be held responsible for this horrible act is the young man who committed this act and, if it is true as I think it is, those on Fox News and people like Sarah Palin who encourage this type of behavior and by daily projecting fear and hatred in those who support them.

  • Anonymous

    Yah, the correct response is just to point the finger at Democrats. Democrats didn’t villify all young white males when Columbine happened or when the Oklahoma City bombing happened or when any other white person committed murder at a large scale. You’re reaching.

    The fact of the matter is, this could potentially be a person who has been heavily influenced by the violence Fox Noise and Tea Party Supporters like Palin have been inciting. Rep Giffords has been receiving death threats, has been harrassed, and had her office vandalized in the past. She is not the only democrat who has experienced violence on this scale.

    The only people that will be held responsible for this horrible act is the young man who committed this act and, if it is true as I think it is, those on Fox News and people like Sarah Palin who encourage this type of behavior and by daily projecting fear and hatred in those who support them.

  • Johnny Warbucks
  • Johnny Warbucks
  • Johnny Warbucks
  • valles

    Once again people with guns kill people.

  • valles

    Once again people with guns kill people.

  • valles

    Once again people with guns kill people.

  • Benway for the Nova Police

    Perhaps our quatoon attorney general can find time during his assault on whistle blowers like Julian Assange to actually find out which right-wing forces were actually behind this.

  • Benway for the Nova Police

    Perhaps our quatoon attorney general can find time during his assault on whistle blowers like Julian Assange to actually find out which right-wing forces were actually behind this.

  • Benway for the Nova Police

    Perhaps our quatoon attorney general can find time during his assault on whistle blowers like Julian Assange to actually find out which right-wing forces were actually behind this.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Well, they can get a hold of your cell phone records, Facebook account, computer, e-mail accounts, Twitter accounts. In other words, exactly the same thing they’re doing to Assange, WikiLeaks supporters & peace activities. Within a matter of hours, they should be able to have a complete profile as well as the name and personal information of each and every single one of his cohorts.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Well, they can get a hold of your cell phone records, Facebook account, computer, e-mail accounts, Twitter accounts. In other words, exactly the same thing they’re doing to Assange, WikiLeaks supporters & peace activities. Within a matter of hours, they should be able to have a complete profile as well as the name and personal information of each and every single one of his cohorts.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Well, they can get a hold of your cell phone records, Facebook account, computer, e-mail accounts, Twitter accounts. In other words, exactly the same thing they’re doing to Assange, WikiLeaks supporters & peace activities. Within a matter of hours, they should be able to have a complete profile as well as the name and personal information of each and every single one of his cohorts.

  • Walt

    The irresponsi­ble, irrational­, fear and hate mongering rhetoric that has been coming from the extremist right through their politician­s, and their media (specifica­lly people like Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage) are part of the blame for this horrific tragic incident.

    Their vile messaging has done nothing but tear this country apart. And until this starts to be acknowledg­ed by a responsibl­e media and our leaders, you will see more unhinged home grown terrorists trying to commit murder in the name of patriotism­. They all have blood on their hands… including the tea party… who don’t have fucking clue.

  • Walt

    The irresponsi­ble, irrational­, fear and hate mongering rhetoric that has been coming from the extremist right through their politician­s, and their media (specifica­lly people like Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage) are part of the blame for this horrific tragic incident.

    Their vile messaging has done nothing but tear this country apart. And until this starts to be acknowledg­ed by a responsibl­e media and our leaders, you will see more unhinged home grown terrorists trying to commit murder in the name of patriotism­. They all have blood on their hands… including the tea party… who don’t have fucking clue.

  • Walt

    The irresponsi­ble, irrational­, fear and hate mongering rhetoric that has been coming from the extremist right through their politician­s, and their media (specifica­lly people like Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage) are part of the blame for this horrific tragic incident.

    Their vile messaging has done nothing but tear this country apart. And until this starts to be acknowledg­ed by a responsibl­e media and our leaders, you will see more unhinged home grown terrorists trying to commit murder in the name of patriotism­. They all have blood on their hands… including the tea party… who don’t have fucking clue.

  • Benway for the Nova Police

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  • Jaimie11

    I don’t think they need to do that anymore, spirit. They have psychotropic drugs that are as effective as death and less suspicious. Such drugs are often used on young guys to first get them to do these awful things and then to keep them confused and silent afterwards.

    The underwear bomber was dazed and confused, Timothy McVeigh was in a walking coma
    when he was stopped on a highway with no license plates. What kind of person plans something like the OK City bombing, executes it, and then gets arrested hours later for no plates? A drugged person.

  • Jaimie11

    I don’t think they need to do that anymore, spirit. They have psychotropic drugs that are as effective as death and less suspicious. Such drugs are often used on young guys to first get them to do these awful things and then to keep them confused and silent afterwards.

    The underwear bomber was dazed and confused, Timothy McVeigh was in a walking coma
    when he was stopped on a highway with no license plates. What kind of person plans something like the OK City bombing, executes it, and then gets arrested hours later for no plates? A drugged person.

  • Anonymous

    Welcome to Boehners America.

  • Anonymous

    Welcome to Boehners America.

  • Anonymous

    Welcome to Boehners America.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    This one is a no brainer, even for a Teabagging retard

  • Johnny Warbucks

    This one is a no brainer, even for a Teabagging retard

  • Johnny Warbucks

    This one is a no brainer, even for a Teabagging retard

  • Anonymous

    “So who is responsible for this terrible and tragic shooting?”

    Not who, but what, and the answer is simple really, ignorance.
    The ignorance of intolerance, the ignorance that somehow killing will solve our differences, ignorance of our own ignorance.

  • Anonymous

    “So who is responsible for this terrible and tragic shooting?”

    Not who, but what, and the answer is simple really, ignorance.
    The ignorance of intolerance, the ignorance that somehow killing will solve our differences, ignorance of our own ignorance.

  • Anonymous

    “So who is responsible for this terrible and tragic shooting?”

    Not who, but what, and the answer is simple really, ignorance.
    The ignorance of intolerance, the ignorance that somehow killing will solve our differences, ignorance of our own ignorance.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Funny, y’all do exactly the same thing when you hear the word ‘bomb’ immediately start blaming Muslims. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Funny, y’all do exactly the same thing when you hear the word ‘bomb’ immediately start blaming Muslims. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Funny, y’all do exactly the same thing when you hear the word ‘bomb’ immediately start blaming Muslims. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/4VEBRKTF5E6HAG4DZNIFUB2IZQ Andrew

    His last name might be spelled “Loughner”.
    http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10

  • Benway for the Nova Police

    Ray: Physical impossibilty.
    McVeigh: Video before the explosion suppressed by FBI.
    Oswald: Tax records still top secret.
    Hinckley: Family friends with the Bushes, who would have benefitted bigtime.

    When are you morons going to figure it out?

  • http://random-gary.blogspot.com/ Gary

    Not just their fans. They will probably be cheering this, themselves.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Uh, uh! I think it’s Sarah Palin. The multiple question marks (trademark signature) give you away.

  • http://biscuits007.wordpress.com/ SpitbucketBaptismo

    Shooter’s name is Jared Loughner. Silly freak has a YouTube site and here’s a doozy-
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uRjwPWaxiY

  • Anonymous

    If again IF there is a proven link between the shooter’s motives and the Palin Face Book graphic (since scrubbed), the nonsensical rants presented non-stop by Fox “commentators” and the Koch brothers backed tea party, then all should be indited on federal conspiracy charges for the murder of a nine year old child, a Federal Judge and the shooting of 17 others including Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords

    If a federal criminal indictment fails, then a civil indictment should immediately follow. If these individuals are found guilty then hit them where it will hurt them the most. Their Bank Account.
    Immediately followed by the FCC stripping the licenses of any Murdock owned broadcast facility in the United States including Fox owned TV, Radio, and Satellite uplinks.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    I bet you’re masturbating over this one.

  • Anonymous

    You are absolutely right. These people, whether they were the fire that lit this man’s fuse or not, are going to be responsible for the loss of more of our freedoms in that we will no longer have access to our representatives. It already takes approx 6 weeks for a letter to a rep to arrive because of the anthrax exam that needs to be done on all mail going to members of Congress. Now, none of them will want to hold town meetings or appearances, and who can blame them. The rhetoric needs to be toned down. It should be the people who preach hate and violence whose rights need to be curtailed, not ours. What Rush, Savage, Beck and Palin do is equivalent to screaming “fire” in a crowded theater and it needs to stop

  • TheDevilCanDance

    No, ericroded is just trying to be utterly sarcastic and cynical , but he doesn’t have the freshness and the wit of a 21 yr old female TheDevilCanDance …Hahaha.

    ericroded is playing the désabusé & the sardonic type, he must be a 30 yr Goth,lol

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Those were tears of joy.

  • http://octobyte.tv/kardia/post/Sarah-Palin-Masterminds-Attack-on-Democrat.aspx Kardia | Sarah Palin Masterminds Attack on Democrat

    [...] Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ), who was shot Saturday during a public event in Tucson, was among 20 other members of Congress who were on a so-called hit list published by [...]

  • http://oldatlanticlighthouse.wordpress.com/2011/01/08/condemn-shooting-congress-woman-gabrielle-giffords/ Condemn shooting Congress woman Gabrielle Giffords « Old Atlantic Lighthouse
  • Anonymous

    Because the Teabagger is a citizen; all citizens ought to be allowed to board planes-it has to do with the Constitution.

  • Anonymous

    One of the dead in the shooting was a child. That child will never have a full life. Another dead is a judge. That is all I know. Please do not forget them and the others that have been injured.

    I am sure there are family members in shock right now. This isn’t pretty.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah,

    the RW freaks come out with deadly violence anywhere there are economic hard times, after fanatical leaders provoke them. Look at 20th century history.

    Actually the Left comes out, too, but not with violence until near the end of its efforts.
    It’s simply that the RW doesn’t work at change for its positions, it just tries to kill people off.

    If times get tougher, more vicious assholes like Palin et al will arise and stir the pot. I’d like to see Holder JUST ONCE get his law enforcement people (FBI et al) to bust some of these conspiratorial sociopaths, or anyone for that matter having to do with post-Bush crimes committed in his term, or now.

    No one except easily-snatched idiots is accountable anymore.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    They only see something wrong when it’s a “Muslem” doing it.

  • Anonymous

    Gee, guess Sarah and her people must feel some guilt about this or they wouldn’t have scrubbed the sight as it was up until an hour ago. The woman needs to keep her hatefull, ignorant mouth shut.

  • Anonymous

    A CBC video from September of last year on the NRA attempting to extend its influence into Canada where the NRA views are seen as “extremist”. Unlike in this country where the NRA seems to have undo influence and politicians tend to shy away from bringing up the topic of gun control. Even after events like the one today.
    NRA Told to “Butt Out” of Canadian Debate
    The federal Opposition Liberals are calling on the “extremist” National Rifle Association to stay out of Canada’s debate on the fate of the long-gun registryhttp://www.newslook.com/videos/250029-nra-told-to-butt-out-of-canadian-debate?autoplay=true

  • Benway for the Nova Police

    They’re going to murder all of our leaders like they did in the 60s and all you can do is worry about what the pathological bastards are going to think about us. Wake up out of your trance, already.

  • http://www.theliberaloc.com/2011/01/08/rep-giffords-on-so-called-hit-list-of-dems-%e2%80%98targeted%e2%80%99-by-sarah-palin/ Rep. Giffords on so-called hit list of Dems ‘targeted’ by Sarah Palin

    [...] list of Dems ‘targeted’ by Tea Party Queen Sarah Palin. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ), who was shot Saturday during a public event in Tucson, was among 20 other members of Congress who were on a so-called hit list published by [...]

  • http://www.darkpolitricks.com/2011/01/rep-giffords-on-so-called-hit-list-of-dems-%e2%80%98targeted%e2%80%99-by-sarah-palin/ Rep. Giffords on so-called hit list of Dems ‘targeted’ by Sarah Palin | Dark Politricks

    [...] Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ), who was shot Saturday during a public event in Tucson, was among 20 other members of Congress who were on a so-called hit list published by [...]

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3NVQSZZC5IM66JEOCSFJUV7FCE Jacques G

    FUXIES and TEADIOTS should be called on for treason advocating “second amendment rights” actions against this administration or any person in Public Service. They are advocating treasonous overthrow of the government. Sarah Palin AND John McCain should be equally addressed for their ignorant contributions to this reckless behavior and advocacy.

  • http://newsrobot.info/2011/01/congresswoman-giffords-seriously-wounded-in-shoot-out-intucson-arizona-safeway/ Congresswoman Giffords seriously wounded in shoot-out inTucson, Arizona (safeway)- News Robot

    [...] REP. GIFFORDS ASSASSINATED IN AZ; SHOT ‘POINT BLANK’ IN HEAD [...]

  • Benway for the Nova Police

    What an incredible moron you are. I remember the murder of JFK, the murders of Martin King, Bobby Kennedy, Malcolm X. Funny these supposed “lone nuts” always kill liberals. No knee jerk here. Just long years of experience with these subhuman congenital murderers.

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Another update from the corporate media:

    Federal judge among victims in Arizona shooting

    PHOENIX – A federal law enforcement official says that a federal judge was fatally shot in the attack on Rep. Gabrielle Giffords of Arizona.

    U.S. Marshal for Arizona David Gonzales confirmed to the Associated Press that U.S. District Judge John Roll died in the attack Saturday.

    Gonzales offered no other details into the shooting.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_congresswoman_shot_judge;_ylt=Aitd4GvMYgIUzqLAv0yNgo2s0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTNsaG4ycGRqBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTEwMTA4L3VzX2NvbmdyZXNzd29tYW5fc2hvdARjY29kZQNtb3N0cG9wdWxhcgRjcG9zAzEEcG9zAzYEcHQDaG9tZV9jb2tlBHNlYwN5bl90b3Bfc3RvcnkEc2xrA2ZlZGVyYWxqdWRnZQ–

  • Anonymous

    Glenn Beck and Fox News’ prayers have been answered.

    Rupert Murdoch, Mussolinin salutes you.

  • Benway for the Nova Police

    Oh will go buy a damned vibrator and shut up already?

  • Johnny Warbucks

    Then you wake up and realize you were dreaming.

  • Anonymous

    And of course -the violence comes from the Right -like it always does.

  • Anonymous

    Nice job sarah. This blood is on your hands!

  • Benway for the Nova Police

    Keep saying to yourself, “It was a magic bullet, it was a magic bullet, it was a magic bullet, it was…”

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3NVQSZZC5IM66JEOCSFJUV7FCE Jacques G

    Totally strange. Despite his own English-challenged site, he’s spouting such incongruencies. Par for the right wing Ignorati…

  • TheDevilCanDance

    Inside the mind of Jared Loughner

    http://tinyurl.com/2fd2hwe