Just the fact that these bills have been introduced is a sad indicator of the times we live in. One step foward, two steps back (toward totalitarianism).

Just the fact that these bills have been introduced is a sad indicator of the times we live in. One step foward, two steps back (toward totalitarianism).

1984

1984

Dude! You really should clarify whether this power is being sought by the president or not. “Obama may get power” is a very broad statement. Especially when shutting it down to the U.S. would be the most UN-American thing any president ever did! God forbid we give any fuel to the Fox News fire!

Dude! You really should clarify whether this power is being sought by the president or not. “Obama may get power” is a very broad statement. Especially when shutting it down to the U.S. would be the most UN-American thing any president ever did! God forbid we give any fuel to the Fox News fire!

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Obama,the Neo Fascist disgrace pig who keeps on giving…..

Obama,the Neo Fascist disgrace pig who keeps on giving…..

It doesn’t matter if Obama is seeking this fascist power, what matters is if he will use it.
Obama has shown he will use such draconian power, he’s just another neocon madman.

It doesn’t matter if Obama is seeking this fascist power, what matters is if he will use it.
Obama has shown he will use such draconian power, he’s just another neocon madman.

OBAMA IS A FASCIST LIKE BUSH…DONT LET THEM GET AWAY WITH THIS. THEY ARE TRYING TO STOP THE FREE FLOW OF INFORMATION. OBAMA IS LIAR JUST LIKE BUSH.

OBAMA IS A FASCIST LIKE BUSH…DONT LET THEM GET AWAY WITH THIS. THEY ARE TRYING TO STOP THE FREE FLOW OF INFORMATION. OBAMA IS LIAR JUST LIKE BUSH.

We’re already there.
Obama wouldn’t hesitate to use any power granted to him, he has proven that repeatedly.

We’re already there.
Obama wouldn’t hesitate to use any power granted to him, he has proven that repeatedly.

By the way,any Liberal who still supports a president who runs an administration of “torture,crack down on freedom of information, who refuses to prosecute the war crimes of previous administration,who has produced a presidential executive order that allows Americans to be executed oversea, a man who stood silent while the people of Gaza were been slaughtered before the eyes of the world.., any liberal who keeps on defending such disgraceful president, has no credibility to criticize the Tea Bagger lunatics. Obama is a fraud and a dangerous one

By the way,any Liberal who still supports a president who runs an administration of “torture,crack down on freedom of information, who refuses to prosecute the war crimes of previous administration,who has produced a presidential executive order that allows Americans to be executed oversea, a man who stood silent while the people of Gaza were been slaughtered before the eyes of the world.., any liberal who keeps on defending such disgraceful president, has no credibility to criticize the Tea Bagger lunatics. Obama is a fraud and a dangerous one

You should clarify this one. Are you better now? What is the difference between Bush Cheney politics and Obama way of doing business?.

You should clarify this one. Are you better now? What is the difference between Bush Cheney politics and Obama way of doing business?.

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Obama is a neocon madman like the rest of them.

And the idiots that still call him a liberal are as smart as the pile of dogshit in the gutter.

He sure picked the brain of those chinese commies that came over to take pictures of their “collateral” that they own to cover the money we will borrow for the bush tax cuts that were continued.

Hey, you’re wearing a new avatar. It looks nice on you.

Ahh, Lieberman hasn’t left yet kids. One more for the road, shall we?

Any question as to whether or not a WikiLeaks’ release would constitute a “cybermergency?”

What about a false flag operation run through a stream of proxy servers? This bill constitutes an open invitation to any administration or bureaucracy looking for an excuse.

Of course the problem remains one of control, and paranoia, within our government. Instead of focusing on the development of a secure system for our infrastructure the goal is to promote an autocratic regime based in Washington. As the foundation of this empire begins to crumble our politicians cling ever more tightly to the fascist model, emulating despotic China and discarding the principles of the Founders.

“None dare call it treason” – but that is what it is.

Yes, because the interwebs can ONLY be accessed through the approved US backbone. Idiots.

These bills keep returning like dogs to vomit on Americans
over and over again.

Thanks. you know how to compliment young arrogant brat like me :)

i like the other better, but it definitely suits her…

No no, you see it’s ok if Obama has this power because he is a democrat, and a liberal too, so he would never do anything bad, cuzz he is for the people. And he for sure is one day soon now, going to stop all that Bush shit that is still going on. Oh yeah he is too.
And if you don’t think so then you must love Sarah Palin.

State of emergency? What kind of emergency can be helped by shutting down the internet?

You’re so Shrill and Unserious (as Greenwald would say)… clearly you don’t appreciate the advanced strategies of eleventy-dimension chess :)

I’m sure that I’ve written every single one of those criticisms myself, here and there… but don’t forget these also: the Holder (Obama) Justice Department seeking the summary dismissal of whole cases — not just suppression of discreet pieces of sensitive evidence — on the basis of “national security secrets,” which is a radical and corrosive Bush-era legal theory carried forward under Obama… and don’t forget the Obama embrace of indefinite detention — without indictment even, let alone trial — and the strong-arming of prosecutors in Spain, Germany, Italy, and Great Britain in order to shut down torture prosecutions in those countries.

Nice avatar, BTW.

And the U.S. complains to China about human rights, and civil rights. I guess that Obama was complaining of the lack of the powers an American president has compared to Hu in China. Envy? Joke aside, this is an on it’s face overextension of State control, clothed in “security” and won’t be needed really… Really? This plutarchy is not stopping for anything. Winston Smith is the name that comes to my mind.

Wonderful.

And, remember Obama fans, when a Republican is in office such as the Establishment’s Mitt Romney…he will have the power to do this. Thus, it is not a good thing. How about supporting a President who would put down all such powers? Ron Paul would repeal this, repeal the Patriot Act, end the illegal wars, and many other great things.

Nice power.

One can issue an ‘amber alert’, shutdown ‘parts’ of the internet during an crucial part of the election cycle, get the ‘hackers’ to use it as cover to destroy the opponent’s infrastructure and get elected in perpetuity.

Oh my paranoid comment is for people who remember how easily elections were manipulated when the internet didn’t even exist….

Oh ya…and national security or public health or whatever fascist’s throw at a wall that sticks long enough to carry out their operations

PJ

you cannot blame me for being sarcastic, unserious and even vitriolic, this is all I have left :) , Do you want me to take refuge in reactionary psychology and blame liberalism, secularism,multi culturalism, for the state of swamp of today`s society. Maybe I should totally disengaged myself from reality and venture into the netherworld of today`s popular culture & social trends?, Video games,addiction to social networking,mobile phone worshiping and celebrity hunting :)

Perhaps the USA and China are getting to chummy!!!

As long as I don`t show you my tits, you wont be satisfied, Doggie

What ever happened to the GOP philosophy of limiting presidential powers. Now they did a 180 turn and want to increase. Totally un-American.

Since when does the GOP control the Senate?

In times of national EMERGENCY we would need MORE methods of communication, not less.

Yes, now we know why he didn’t want to prosecute the war crimes and treason of Bush/Cheney.

The noose is tightening.

Amerika the police state rolls on.

According to a report Monday at CNET News, the bill will be back on the Senate agenda in the new year. But a revision introduced into the bill in December would exempt the law from judicial oversight.

Any time that an activity is exempted from judicial oversight, you know that you’re dealing with an activity that would benefit the most from just that oversight.

So Obama -or Future Bush- would be able to just flip a switch at his own discretion?
These people do not understand a thing about history, America, American History or really much of anything about the Bill of Rights and Constitution.

This would be a breach of our first amendment rights.

“You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.”
~ George Orwell, 1984

We have arrived. Gag order. Indefinite detention. Torture. Silence the press. And they left the black dude holdin the bag.

More Gestapo tactics, enabled by the Patriot Act, and the Dept of Homeland Security. The government should not have the power, to decide in secret and implement in secret, what we see and hear. I would call that the definition of tyranny. With the government completely owned and operated by the mega corporations, the return to midieval serfdom, would be complete. Much more onerous, the kings did not have computers and electronics. Brave New World is here.

It is obvious why the need to silence the internet is paramount in times like these. Too many people are talking to each other at once. Dissent of course leads to out right revolt, not changing political thought. Stop it cold in it’s tracks, that is the only way the Corporate States will be able to function in the coming years. Remember “Big Brother” doesn’t exist. And all of those fancy new cameras will protect you.

“Left” vs “Right”, “Liberal” vs “Conservative” etc….this is something we ALL need to be concerned about. America is spiraling down a Nazi, 1984-like sinkhole with no end in sight. Who will stand up against it? Ron Paul is one. Anyone else with the balls in Congress?

The emergency of people knowing too god damm much.

Isn’t that it? It’s just that the U.S. administration isn’t ready to ride bitch yet. But they will, this administration and the next and the next.

SHUT DOWN THE INTERNET NOW!!

President Obama knows that when he expands the war into the heart of Pakistan and attacks Iran in a year or so and then cuts social security and medicare and cuts the pensions of government and union workers, and appoints a right to life supreme court justice that some people who are always complain about everything will probably start some kind of protest using the internet.

I applaud Obama’s vision of America’s future. We all need to feel safe. Safety is the most important product that America can offer the world, through it’s many security firms made up of experts who understand that there are those IN AMERICA who hate our freedom and want to destroy our way of life.

Let’s give Obama credit. The internet NEEDS to be SHUT DOWN NOW!

Calm down, calm down… the reference to “Shrill and Unserious” comes from the very influential attorney-blogger Glenn “GlenZilla” Greenwald — mentioned explicitly in my post — who coined that phrase to characterize how the Washington, DC political media regularly dismisses all critical voices, but particularly those critical voices on the Left. It’s partly because those elite and egocentric members of Washington, DC beltway political media consider themselves to be so utterly and irreproachably “serious and somber,” but mostly because they’re political insiders, part of the established order, and so they consistently endeavor to marginalize all critics with such tactics as calling them “shrill” and “unserious.” Its so predictable anymore that’s its become a joke.

I believe you would enjoy Greenwald’s work… he’s been very much on the same page about Obama as we are, and for a very long time… longer than any other liberal/progressive writer that I’m aware of, other than Scott Horton (Harper’s) maybe.

There’s far too much good work that he’s done (including three NY Times bestsellers) to compile anything like a representative sample, so here’s a link to just one recent article that was particularly good, for it includes also his decimating video-smackdown of Jessica Yellin on CNN for her compound, witless stupidity:

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/12/28/cnnn/index.html

Joe Lieberman and that pesky 9/11 cover-up.

This kind of stuff has to stop. We are very close to a dictatorship and our constitution is not designed in this way. There must be checks and balances for us to resemble a free people. We are not free if one man can just shut down what has become a necessary part of many people’s lives, economically, educational, etc. The necessary infrastructure should be put on a separate system, this is common sense to me. I’ve been watching this fascist state closely since the 1980′s and it has been a steadily moving forward during this time. There was much more freedom when I was a child. Then came the war on some drugs and the steady decline of our freedoms and rights. I know I’m ranting but this is a very anti-freedom power that is being suggested and I just have to ask where do we the people draw the line? Our money is being used to trap us in an open air prison with all the power in one groups hand. When was the last time a law was passed that promoted freedom? The laws are overwhelmingly against us. I think we should put a stop to all new laws and review the ones in the books now and straighten this mess out. It is only going to get worse if we stay silent.

I’m going to venture to say that the only parts that will be “shut down” during “emergencies” will be those used by the human citizens during a possible uprising or oppression. The parts of the Internet utilized by the corporate citizens will hum along just fine so as not to lose profits for the shareholders. Which means that the rest of us will have to set up darknets over corporate connections just to communicate what is really going on.

the ONE country i NEVER wanted to set foot in has always been China… and now it seems China is coming to me.

its very bizarre what is happening right now… ive always wished people would wake up and smell this terrible coffee… and one of the ways i imagined that might happen is if the internet just “shut down”.. people would be confused and would have to think for themselves and figure things out alone for a while… maybe they wouldnt like it.

but the fact that the govt is planning to do that on purpose? what are they trying to do here? i keep getting the feeling theyre trying to incite us to riot in order to declare martial law or enact some crazy legislation… but thats so Orwellian… so silly…

i cant figure it out… but these “well intentioned” ideas are obviously something more… its driving me crazy.

‘Cyberemergency’ ! There is nothing like a makey-uppy word to make the law as clear as mud !

Ooh Ooh ! I’ve got a word. Internetastrophy. Use that one.

PJ

Thank you,but I am aware of Glenn Greenwald`s work…..:), He is living in Brazil right now
Him and Jeremy Scahill are very critical of the Obama administration

Dumya must lay in bed and wished he’d had that power to abuse.

folks this really is not a joke. these people suggesting this, are either naive or have their minds set on a dictatorial fascist government. i submit to you that if some “attack” did come that in an effort of self preservation sites would voluntarily drop their internet connections. making this law exactly one thing. a tool to control political content on the net. if we do not remove the people from office in their next election cycle that support this, then eventually they will sneak it past. I CHALLENGE EVERYONE WHO CONTRIBUTES TO THIS SITE TO BEGIN REMOVING FROM OFFICE VIA “VOTE” ANY POLITICIAN SUGGESTING ANY FURTHER EROSION OF OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. also supporting politicians who protect our rights.

do they really Jim? maybe they have the mindset of sheeple nailed. what we should be wondering is where is the line that they can’t cross without people just sitting on their asses and doing nothing. i believe the amaricans we have today are way different from the americans in 1776.

it would be unfair to censor that content for others of us. ie…. cc me with the link to that .jpg please.

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This it total BULLSHIT! This was first mentioned when Wikileaks was ‘Embarrassing’ these corrupt scumbags by throwing their dirty laundry out for all to see.
All of a sudden…POOF…Let’s PREVENT the general public from seeing our skid marks, until we can remove the controversial comments from key sites (wikileaks & mirror sites displaying it).

If a bill is introduced giving this CORRUPT gov’t an opportunity to flip the kill switch at their leisure, there’s another right taken away from you.

This crap has got to STOP!

PS: Is that why LIEberman decided not to remain in his office?

Hahaha, Don`t sweat I am probably not worth the expectation. I have natural boobs and they are not that big compared to American mammary standards :)

If Obama (or any president) is granted this, the end of Constitutional Law cant be far behind. In fact many of Obama’s acts violate the Constitution, and his Democrats in Congress feel they are above the law when writing their fascist bills.
I am in appalled that most Americans are have little knowledge of their Constitution, and are brainwashed by the media and Obama’s talking henchmen like Burton and Axelrod. They are like sheep, following blindly as they are led to the slaughterhouse. Except there is no slaughterhouse, only fascist laws and socialism, the end of freedoms and the right to bear arms for defense ones self and family.
Granting Obama the right to impose any law, without oversight of the courts, sure seems like it came out of Hitlers Nazi Playbook. Congress must not give him this.

That was well written. Minimal, angry but thoughtful, sarcastic, funny and excellent use of the word disgrace. Leaves room for thought. Two thumbs up!

I dunno about your new icon. It blends into the background a bit. What about something pink or with a unicorn. ;)

Unlock Thanks for all the HOPE and CHANGE… ASSHOLE!

Unlock Thanks for all the HOPE and CHANGE… ASSHOLE!

Exactly. They are planning for the day of reckoning.

Exactly. They are planning for the day of reckoning.

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You KNOW what would be declared a “cyberemergency”. Wikileaks releasing the People’s information to the people. Anyone protesting against the latest war, campaigning against government abuses, against corporate polluters, etc, all would be declared “cyberemergencies” when they get to the boiling point or to the point of causing anyone in government “embarrassment”. Viola! Kill switch. It is time for the geeks among us to start designing AROUND the internet of the corporations and corrupt government. It is time to start revamping citizen’s “MESH” networks. The internet doesn’t belong to the government or to corporations, it belongs to EVERYONE.

You KNOW what would be declared a “cyberemergency”. Wikileaks releasing the People’s information to the people. Anyone protesting against the latest war, campaigning against government abuses, against corporate polluters, etc, all would be declared “cyberemergencies” when they get to the boiling point or to the point of causing anyone in government “embarrassment”. Viola! Kill switch. It is time for the geeks among us to start designing AROUND the internet of the corporations and corrupt government. It is time to start revamping citizen’s “MESH” networks. The internet doesn’t belong to the government or to corporations, it belongs to EVERYONE.

You KNOW what would be declared a “cyberemergency”. Wikileaks releasing the People’s information to the people. Anyone protesting against the latest war, campaigning against government abuses, against corporate polluters, etc, all would be declared “cyberemergencies” when they get to the boiling point or to the point of causing anyone in government “embarrassment”. Viola! Kill switch. It is time for the geeks among us to start designing AROUND the internet of the corporations and corrupt government. It is time to start revamping citizen’s “MESH” networks. The internet doesn’t belong to the government or to corporations, it belongs to EVERYONE.

You KNOW what would be declared a “cyberemergency”. Wikileaks releasing the People’s information to the people. Anyone protesting against the latest war, campaigning against government abuses, against corporate polluters, etc, all would be declared “cyberemergencies” when they get to the boiling point or to the point of causing anyone in government “embarrassment”. Viola! Kill switch. It is time for the geeks among us to start designing AROUND the internet of the corporations and corrupt government. It is time to start revamping citizen’s “MESH” networks. The internet doesn’t belong to the government or to corporations, it belongs to EVERYONE.

It’s not a moderate Republican like Obama having the kill switch I’m worried about– it’s a mental patient such as Mike Huckabee or Mitt Romney I’m worried about.

It’s not a moderate Republican like Obama having the kill switch I’m worried about– it’s a mental patient such as Mike Huckabee or Mitt Romney I’m worried about.

Cyber terrorism is a rapidly growing threat. That isn’t to say i agree with this, but that is why.

Cyber terrorism is a rapidly growing threat. That isn’t to say i agree with this, but that is why.

Well cell phone networks are often shut off immediatelly after bombings, but the reason there is to prevent more bombings, as cell phones are very common detonators.

Well cell phone networks are often shut off immediatelly after bombings, but the reason there is to prevent more bombings, as cell phones are very common detonators.

This man is even more disgusting than Bush, at least with Junior,it was “in your face”,the son of a bitch was proud of his accomplishment, and you knew where he stood on every issue. With Obama it is the art of deception and perfidy

This man is even more disgusting than Bush, at least with Junior,it was “in your face”,the son of a bitch was proud of his accomplishment, and you knew where he stood on every issue. With Obama it is the art of deception and perfidy

Throwing the word fascist around like that devalues it. Save it for the real demons of the world.

Throwing the word fascist around like that devalues it. Save it for the real demons of the world.

“It will give the president the ability to shut down parts of the Internet without any court oversight.”

This is the most laughable article I’ve ever read in my life. Laughable. It was apparently written by someone who’s never spent a day of their life in IT.

There is no such thing as a ‘kill’ switch for the Internet. Never has been. Never will be. There is no possible way to shut down Internet traffic. No way. No how.

The POTUS and no one else on this planet can simply halt Inet traffic. The US would screech to a total halt. Nearly all commerce would cease. Interstate and Federal communications would stop and the military would have to be totally grounded.

This article is simply irresponsible.

“It will give the president the ability to shut down parts of the Internet without any court oversight.”

This is the most laughable article I’ve ever read in my life. Laughable. It was apparently written by someone who’s never spent a day of their life in IT.

There is no such thing as a ‘kill’ switch for the Internet. Never has been. Never will be. There is no possible way to shut down Internet traffic. No way. No how.

The POTUS and no one else on this planet can simply halt Inet traffic. The US would screech to a total halt. Nearly all commerce would cease. Interstate and Federal communications would stop and the military would have to be totally grounded.

This article is simply irresponsible.

One thing that is certain : Obama the puppet will be instructed by the Puppet Masters when and what to “Kill”.

One thing that is certain : Obama the puppet will be instructed by the Puppet Masters when and what to “Kill”.

Are we dense? Take things a little too literally? The “kill switch” is a metaphore. The bill gives the Prez the power to order the internet service providers and core routers to shut down. Block traffic. It gives the Prez the power, on his say-so, to tell AT&T (a government/NSA lackey if ever there was one) to shut down their core routers and/or any combo of routers below core. POOF! No more internet until the Prez says OK.

Are we dense? Take things a little too literally? The “kill switch” is a metaphore. The bill gives the Prez the power to order the internet service providers and core routers to shut down. Block traffic. It gives the Prez the power, on his say-so, to tell AT&T (a government/NSA lackey if ever there was one) to shut down their core routers and/or any combo of routers below core. POOF! No more internet until the Prez says OK.

[...] Obama may get power to shut down Internet without court oversight A bill giving the president an Internet "kill switch" during times of emergency that failed to pass Congress last year will return this year, but with a revision that has many civil liberties advocates concerned: It will give the president the ability to shut down parts of the Internet without any court oversight. [...]

When Junior spoke, I would watch his face. Whatever he said, the opposite was true. He would stutter through some bullshit and look at the audience – scared. Then they would cheer and clap. His eyes would squint as he scanned the room and a smirk of arrogant contempt would emerge. To me it was obvious.

Obama has a much better poker face. A real professional. I can’t tell. I think deep down he would like to do something good for the people but he is owned. No one can raise all that money to become president and not get owned. Plus, he has a gun to the back of his head. I think he was overawed in his first few months as he learned the real power structures, particularly through the military. They have long range plans. Long…

He feels like a Zaphod Beeblebrox to me. Someone who takes the public’s attention away from the real power. He has 2 years to make a stand. We’ll see what happens, particularly with social security. At least he hasn’t started a new war!
Then it will be back to the republicans and the shit will really hit the fan.

Perhaps you can call it better than me. Until we can see him actually do some good,
you can him all the shit you want.

Given any thought to a unicorn yet?

When Junior spoke, I would watch his face. Whatever he said, the opposite was true. He would stutter through some bullshit and look at the audience – scared. Then they would cheer and clap. His eyes would squint as he scanned the room and a smirk of arrogant contempt would emerge. To me it was obvious.

Obama has a much better poker face. A real professional. I can’t tell. I think deep down he would like to do something good for the people but he is owned. No one can raise all that money to become president and not get owned. Plus, he has a gun to the back of his head. I think he was overawed in his first few months as he learned the real power structures, particularly through the military. They have long range plans. Long…

He feels like a Zaphod Beeblebrox to me. Someone who takes the public’s attention away from the real power. He has 2 years to make a stand. We’ll see what happens, particularly with social security. At least he hasn’t started a new war!
Then it will be back to the republicans and the shit will really hit the fan.

Perhaps you can call it better than me. Until we can see him actually do some good,
you can him all the shit you want.

Given any thought to a unicorn yet?

there was no internet in the 60′s and 70′s and yet news got through, prostests were planned, and anti-war groups still had meetings … i guess they’re planning to make sure to make every efforts to make sure they have enought road blocks to stop us … it may slow us down but it won’t stop us. instead of “trust no one over 30″ it will change to “trust no one in the 1% or any of their minions”

there was no internet in the 60′s and 70′s and yet news got through, prostests were planned, and anti-war groups still had meetings … i guess they’re planning to make sure to make every efforts to make sure they have enought road blocks to stop us … it may slow us down but it won’t stop us. instead of “trust no one over 30″ it will change to “trust no one in the 1% or any of their minions”

You have to wonder what the big corporations that finance Obama’s and most other political campaigns would think if internet traffic (and their profits) suddenly ground to a halt, even if it could actually be done. Some mightily pissed off CEOs. No bucks for the next election cycle. Not going to happen.

Oops, that’s assuming there would actually BE a next election cycle.

You have to wonder what the big corporations that finance Obama’s and most other political campaigns would think if internet traffic (and their profits) suddenly ground to a halt, even if it could actually be done. Some mightily pissed off CEOs. No bucks for the next election cycle. Not going to happen.

Oops, that’s assuming there would actually BE a next election cycle.

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Can’t let people exchange information about government wrongdoings!

Can’t let people exchange information about government wrongdoings!

the main reason these acts like ‘the protecting cyberspace as a national asset act’ are extremely dangerous is their purposely made very vague; Open to wide interpretation. A cyberemergency could be almost anything ., It’s totally up to Obama,. with no oversight. The fact that this kill switch is not causing more outrage is what’s really frightening. The major media will not even mention it. Alright in summary we have president who can now legally kill, assassinate, any American citizen he chooses [ as long as he is killed outside country]; and now, if this act is rammed through, can at his fancy, shut down the internet. Gee gosh were really not in Kansas anymore Mommy are we. Obama is much more dangerous than Bush was because most of the liberal left that voted for him still doesn’t get it. They don’t see the wolf in sheep’s clothing. The only very visible media figure that might expose him is Rachael Maddow. I fear that it’s too late. When Keith was there they were a dynamic duo with guests like Professor Jonathan Turley. All she is doing now is exposing internal political chicanery. and unethical behavior. She is not getting into the big stuff that could turn us into a complete fascist dictatorial regime.

the main reason these acts like ‘the protecting cyberspace as a national asset act’ are extremely dangerous is their purposely made very vague; Open to wide interpretation. A cyberemergency could be almost anything ., It’s totally up to Obama,. with no oversight. The fact that this kill switch is not causing more outrage is what’s really frightening. The major media will not even mention it. Alright in summary we have president who can now legally kill, assassinate, any American citizen he chooses [ as long as he is killed outside country]; and now, if this act is rammed through, can at his fancy, shut down the internet. Gee gosh were really not in Kansas anymore Mommy are we. Obama is much more dangerous than Bush was because most of the liberal left that voted for him still doesn’t get it. They don’t see the wolf in sheep’s clothing. The only very visible media figure that might expose him is Rachael Maddow. I fear that it’s too late. When Keith was there they were a dynamic duo with guests like Professor Jonathan Turley. All she is doing now is exposing internal political chicanery. and unethical behavior. She is not getting into the big stuff that could turn us into a complete fascist dictatorial regime.

Neo cons are extreme liberals. The political use of the term liberal means liberal use of government in everyday life. It’s not meant to use as an individual’s right to live liberally. Although I do feel politicos deliberately confounded of the term.

Neo cons are extreme liberals. The political use of the term liberal means liberal use of government in everyday life. It’s not meant to use as an individual’s right to live liberally. Although I do feel politicos deliberately confounded of the term.

Except for the fact that this is merely an extension of an existing trend in executive power grabs. It is already premised on the President’s determination alone that American citizens can be declared terrorists without Congressional or judicial review, permitting the government to detain US citizens indefinitely without due process. Obama has taken the opportunity to expand that power to include assassinating American citizens abroad and presumably on American soil on his personal declaration that the individual or group is an enemy of the state. Since October 2008 the 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team has been deployed on US soil, specially trained and equipped for crowd control and trained in running local governments in a state of emergency, a violation of the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878. And now this. There can be little doubt that plans are afoot for something pretty ominous. I am certainly not convinced that this series of outrageously extreme extra-legal measures are in place to protect der homeland from a few thousand angry arabs eight thousand miles away on the opposite side of an ocean. None of this shit was needed to protect Amertica from the Soviets, a global superpower with a massive nuclear arsenal, a space program, government-run biological weapons programs, standing army and a navy and air force, intelligence agencies with a global reach supported by budgets in the hundreds of billions. Soviet moles not only lived among American populations but penetrated the top levels of intelligence agencies and governments in western countries.
Who are they kidding? Oh right, only the 2/3 of America that pays no attention to anything but what’s on the boob tube.

Except for the fact that this is merely an extension of an existing trend in executive power grabs. It is already premised on the President’s determination alone that American citizens can be declared terrorists without Congressional or judicial review, permitting the government to detain US citizens indefinitely without due process. Obama has taken the opportunity to expand that power to include assassinating American citizens abroad and presumably on American soil on his personal declaration that the individual or group is an enemy of the state. Since October 2008 the 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team has been deployed on US soil, specially trained and equipped for crowd control and trained in running local governments in a state of emergency, a violation of the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878. And now this. There can be little doubt that plans are afoot for something pretty ominous. I am certainly not convinced that this series of outrageously extreme extra-legal measures are in place to protect der homeland from a few thousand angry arabs eight thousand miles away on the opposite side of an ocean. None of this shit was needed to protect Amertica from the Soviets, a global superpower with a massive nuclear arsenal, a space program, government-run biological weapons programs, standing army and a navy and air force, intelligence agencies with a global reach supported by budgets in the hundreds of billions. Soviet moles not only lived among American populations but penetrated the top levels of intelligence agencies and governments in western countries.
Who are they kidding? Oh right, only the 2/3 of America that pays no attention to anything but what’s on the boob tube.

Where does one even begin to explain to a person that has no clue that their rights are being taken away and what that means to them and what it will mean in the future?

I notice how you all are focusing on Obama may get the power….the headline is misleading. The bill isn’t sponsored by Democrats. The bill is that any President would get the power regardless of party affiliation or politics. I see you are all the bleating sheep from Animal Farm. Four legs good, two legs bad, and now switch it up to Four legs good, two legs better. All together now.

[...] Kill switch without judicial review Obama may get power to shut down Internet without court oversight | Raw Story Basically this law would give the president unfettered power to kill key internet infrastructure [...]

From what I gather, the spectre of war, terror, crime, and everyone “having their day in court” is a symptom of a societal and governmental obsession with crime and punishment, a cyber-prison complex that we all willingly allow into our homes and all our electronic devices unwittingly. Why does the article read “everyone has their day in court,” why is there the ASSUMPTION IN THE FIRST PLACE that something wrong was done that necessitates that? The internet and related systems are already a guilt/accusation/crime/punishment complex that extends into the neurological system of the citizen, regardless that one such as myself or others do not and have no future desire to do anything illegal or harmful to any living thing.

“When was the last time a law was passed that promoted freedom?”

Why, Citizens United v Federal Election Commission, silly.

I hope you are getting a lot of food stamps to write such apologetic bullshit ?

We don’t have Constitutional law now. The government plutocrats/technocrats are in complete control, rather than the people.We help Americans find jobs and prosperity in Asia.

But, but they just want to protect us. Please, please take away the rest of my rights now, I beg you. No, I demand it!
What?! I don’t have any rights left? Oh.

Life without Internet is like a body without soul. Obama is starting to make Bush look like a dove on civil liberties. Not only did Obama continue all of Bush’s illegal and immoral intrusions such as the Patriot Act, he has actually strengthened them and has already conducted more speech-chilling prosecutions under the Espionage Act than all previous presidents put together. Hope and Change my ass!

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Minor correction – viola is a stringed musical instrument – what you mean is voilà, French for “there you are”.

Ron Paul is the man. Support him or someone else that promises to end the wars, investigate the Fed and restore the rule of law. RP is also on the record in saying that Bush-era (and now Obama-era) torture crimes should be investigated and prosecuted. Obama’s silence and equivocating disgusts me.

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Poetic justice would have Lieberman and his entire family given the same harsh treatment he has supported for so-called “enemy combatants”. Waterboarding, indefinite detention, isolation, etc. Give him a taste of his medicine.

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‘Tu parles Francais?.

“These people do not understand a thing about history, America, American History or really much of anything about the Bill of Rights and Constitution.”
Some people do not have a very good awareness of how meaningless all of the above are in light of the past ten years worth of extraordinary new “laws” that render virtually everything you cited meaningless.
See Detention of Enemy Combatants Act, H.R. 107 and the Patriot Act.
The Nazis had laws too. In fact, strictly technically speaking, nothing Hitler did was illegal in the eyes of the “law”.

“fascist laws and socialism”

I hope you realize the stupidity of your comment?. Obama is not a Socialist, he is a lackey of Wall street and the private sector. The day Dennis Kunich will get millions of dollars from the banking and insurance industry, you will witness the dawn of socialism in America. Please stop using terminology you do not comprehend.

I doubt that it’s even possible to shut down the Internet. This is just more posturing by elected flakes.

Bad news. A Republican *is* in office.

Yeah and he’s a family man and a constitutional scholar so I trust him.

Well stated, Devil. Disgraceful is right.

LOL. American Mammary Standards (minimum 9 surgeries required to qualify)

It means no such thing.

when relatively few companies own the transmission medium between you and the servers, it is really easy to tell those companies to turn out the lights. No fiber backbone, no Internets for you or I. Also, there are few TLD DNS routers, without them to convert the http://www.whatever.com into an IP address, you and your computer would have a hard time getting places.

The other day I took a lot of of flacks for saying. “American girls loose their virginity at 13,have their first abortion by 16 and a tits job by 20 :)

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA Shut down the Internet! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA

Yes, the Cyber Police will be on the way soon. YOU DUN GOOFED!

I mean seriously, look at how other countries FAR more extremist in their censorship, have failed brilliantly at trying to shut out the internet. It’s a fabric already finely woven into everyday life everywhere and there is no magic “OFF” switch.

I wonder how & why some Liberals have the audacity to keep piling on Bush Cheney, while Obama is not only the legitimate child of the Bush Cheney policies, but also their best salesman & water carrier.

This is the reason I like posting around here, a lot of you Leftists have the intellectual
honesty to denounce the insanities of your political system, whether Democrat or Republican, it takes a lot of balls to do that,people on the other side are incapable of doing that, & I know what I am talking about since I come originally from the Right.

I respect and honor your inherent first amendment right to say “YOU DUN GOOFED.” As much as I would not enjoy hearing or reading that sort of dialogue on a regular basis, as much as it irritates, annoys, antagonizes, rubs against the grain, and offends the intellect and sense of justice, you have the perfect right to say “YOU DUN GOOFED” to anyone you wish at your whim.

You need to learn what a neocon is and what a liberal is before posting such ignorant tripe.
Thank you.

Or organize. China protesters closed down a toxic factory a couple of years ago by organizing quickly with their cell phones. The government now monitors txts that are forwarded repeatedly.

Your government would appreciate the lesson learned, and would consider it best to be prepared earlier rather than later.

Anything with Liebermann’s name on it should be considered red flagged.
(no pun intended LOL)

I don’t know, Bush was pretty good at turning the “off” switch on our economy.

Yep, suspicions confirmed. Internet humor isn’t for everyone. Maybe someone else will also find humor in the irony of your post.

Well, there ya go! Couple this with NSPD 51 and a false flag and kasam! You’ve got yourself Martial Law, a dictator and full blown Fascism in place.

BAC, thank you for the food for thought. For whatever reasons, this perspective on the whole thing of right v wrong has never crossed my mind before but it makes a whole lot of sense. Another salient point (I believe) is that unless you have access to money (for lawyer’s fees) good luck in finding someone to represent you. Attornies are expensive and very few are willing to work on a contingency basis esp. if the nature of the transgression doesn’t carry the promise of good bucks.

This article perpetuates the myth that the cyber security bill sponsored by Senators Lieberman and Collins would authorize a “kill switch” that would allow the President to shut down the Internet.

The reality is that the legislation would make it far less likely for a President to use the broad authority he already has in current law to take over communications networks. Section 706 of the Communications Act of 1934 provides nearly unchecked authority to the President to “cause the closing of any facility or station for wire communication” and “authorize the use of control of any such facility or station” by the Federal government.

The Senators’ legislation would bring Presidential authority to respond to a major cyber attack into the 21st century by providing a precise, targeted, and focused way for the President to defend our most sensitive infrastructure. The bill does not authorize the government to “take over” critical infrastructure nor does it authorize any new surveillance authorities.

The President would be required to provide advance notice to Congress of the intent to declare a national cyber emergency or as soon as possible after a declaration, with reasons why advance notice was not possible.

Apparently, you don’t realize how it works. And it’s very simple indeed. They already have the means to track down activity. The zero on a people on a large scale, arrest them and let the fear spread. Won’t be long before you’re calling your local police department to ask them if it’s okay to go on this or that website. See fear is an unbelievable thing that can make mountains crumble. Look at us all, dropping our drawers and spreading our cheeks for TSA to stick their finger up our asses all because of “fear of terrorism”

Please never underestimate the power of fear and the power of ingorant people in large numbers. It’s happened to better, smarter and less compliant people than you Amerikans.

I don’t think it matters WHO is sponsoring/writing the bill or who the President is or the parties of those particular people.

Have you considered how devastating something like this would be for the common person? The only way it seems you can apply for employment (or look for employment) now is to go to a website. Our lives revolve around access to the internet rightly or wrongly.

This is VERY CHILLING. More and more, our federal government reminds me of a fascist group of control and power freaks.

As one would expect from stooges that work for the same cabal.

That’s what the Democraps are all about: apologies and more apologies.

You make my point….you say “good luck in finding someone to represent you…” I have no case or issue in my life right now!!! There’s nothing going on!!! The legal system is simply a magnetic force that sucks everything and everyone into it regardless!!!

I can virtually never allow a comment to slide that fingers Bushco when Obama has eagerly embraced every single one of their so-called policies (crimes). Some would claim in his defense that he has ordered an end to torture, when in fact he ordered an and to the CIA engaging in torture and then quietly handed the project over to Joint Spec Ops Command.
In fact, when Obama took office, the CIA appeared to have already ended their torture program and the black sites were empty, so his showy executive order was just a shell game to attempt to appease his dwindling liberal base.
There is no defending the indefensible.
I noted from an earlier post that you are a reformed rightie. Welcome to the reality-based community.

Amerikans are kinda slow on reading comprehension. Metaphors, humor, sarcasm, all that goes way over their heads.

Wisdom is a grace.

Obama is articulate and intelligent -but lacks Wisdom, a child of Humility.

The current gaggle of American politicians, Democrat and Republican, is a lost generation of worldly educated and degenerate idiots totally devoid of Wisdom and Humility.

Tick, tock, tick, tock…

Obama is not a democrat and he is certainly not a liberal. I suspect your comment is actually snark. If so, excuse my comment.

Don`t be so enthusiastic about welcoming me.lol. I came from a right wing anarchist perspective and I migrated to a full grown nihilist.

Stina…you might as well accept that few people understand satire or spoof.
Too much literal interpretattion by bible belters has over 50% of the country to dumb bumkins.

No real sense of humor or the absurd…which makes the insanity managable by those who add it to their tools survival kit.

Sail on DUN GOOFED!

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There is too much global redundancy for any one government to be able to shut down the Internet, just as DARPA originally designed it. They can no more shut it down than they could shut Assange up.

Come on people, isn’t it clearly evident that this is an example of Caz Sunstein’s arm extending toward shutting off political debate and silencing dissent, and “conspiracy theories” (by definition are issues or facts that the government does not want exposed because they do not support the status quo or exposes tyranny) This is a free society, have we forgotten that? Oh yeah, guys living in caves changed us forever, huh? If you believe the lie you are part of it. Isn’t it funny that being attached by a terrorist is less likely than being hit by lightning, and because of fear we are willing to give up all the rights that the Constitution gave us. I am willing to be subjected to the small chance of an attack rather than to forfeit all my personal liberties.
I mean can we trust our safety to an administration that is willing to bow to every dictator and communist regime in the world. The same leader that played socialist songs before his political gatherings before being elected and entertained in the White House the Chinese, and sat and listened to a Chinese pianist playing a popular Chinese song that speaks of killing (US Marines) the jackals and defeating America. Where has America gone, where are men like John Wayne and Ronald Reagan gone. I will tell you where they have gone…society has emasculated the male and any that stand and defend liberty are labeled extremist. Fight the power, I will not sit down and shut up, I will defend liberty and I will call on my brothers and sisters that will stand with me in Victory over Tyranny. Is America really gone or are we being told that it is gone by greedy globalists and a willing gaggle of media suckling at the globalist tit and supporting their agenda of social engineering. That’s mind control, that’s propaganda. We must resist. Are they trying to convince the public that we are a failed society that cannot rule themselves, have seen our best days, are we a defeated people. This is the time, this is the moment when real men and women are needed by their country. Our leaders have financially bankrupted this nation, these same globalist have sent our manufacturing and jobs overseas, because of their greed. These same globalist have engineered the demise of our country. They have tried to discredit the founding fathers as rich slave owners and because the dumbed down masses lack the brain cells to understand history and the history of Tyranny. Has the Greatest Generation already come and gone or are we about to see the Greatest Generation in action? Do we really need or want a tyrannical Despot telling the public what they should think, eat, say, and how they should act and feel. Does the government have the right to put their hands on us and sexy assault us in the name of safety from terrorism. Are they conditioning us as slaves of the state. I stand for freedom, I do not want the TSA’s hands on me or my family. The TSA is being extended to the public as check points are being established in the general public. So here we see tyranny reaching forth its invading hand, stretching its boundaries and influence. We have to resist tyranny and call attention to tyranny in every form that raises its head . I applaud Jesse Ventura and his RESISTANCE to TYRANNY. Jesse is a National Hero.

I’ll try.

Juste un très peu.

Think about how hard it would be to drive from one place to another if all the direction and street signs were gone, you didn’t have a map and the GPS system was killed. The basic infrastructure would still be in place and you could drive from point A to point B – but unless you already knew the route (had the IP address) you would have one heck of a hard time. That is one of the techniques the underground used in Europe during WWII to delay the Germans. They removed or misdirected the road signs.

“”Under the proposed law, the Department of Homeland Security would draw up a list of Internet “critical infrastructure” it deems vital to the proper functioning of the web and US economy. The president would then be granted the power to order some part of that critical infrastructure to be shut down”"

Who knows when the next “emergency” will happen. Wikileaks only released 1% of their documents. How long before the government decides that it will regulate the internet with a heavy hand like the radio or TV.

OK, c`est bien, on va parler en Francais a partir de maintenant :)

( you dont need to say ” un tres peu”, “juste un peu” is correct)

WELCOME boys & girls to the land of the free,from sea to oily sea. This government in control shit is going too far. They need to be reminded it is government by the people and for the people. We are their employers and they are just the over paid insubordinate help. People, it’s time to fire some of these assholes.

You can almost feel our democracy slipping away.

You best take a long hard look at the Patriot Act, it sez in so many words our freedom is on very thin ice.

He’s finally gone too far! If he dares to shut down the internet, all the facebook addicted zombies out there will rise up against him and that will be the end of him.

we’re not talking globally.

The Internet providers will do it for them the government is Corporate America now.

Note: This post by myself is a satire and a spoof, although a dry one. I find it humorous. A satire of those who do not get satire, a layered and subtle jab on others I have heard speaking this way.

Yeah, yeah I forgot the nice family part, that makes it even doubly nice when HE FUCKS US.

Yep, what a bunch of morons, the second they hit that “kill” switch is the second they shut down 80% of all the world’s communication, including all cell traffic as all the authentication protocols live on servers where? The internet…

If you’re talking about the Internet, you’re talking globally.

Too much literal interpretattion by bible belters has over 50% of the country to dumb bumkins.
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You put too much emphasis on bible belters as what is wrong with the General public IS the GENERAL PUBLIC. Group think is what is getting us into this type of issue and has nothing to do with the bible.

Wire that switch to his blackberry?

Isn’t that the truth. Many of us daily break laws we didn’t even know were in effect until we are called on them. Such is the way of tyranny, they create the criminals with their innane laws then punish us for being what THEY create. It’s a sure steady cash cow for the elitist scum that seek to subvert us into slavery.

Did they ever find aliens in Roswell?

Yes, they can. All they have to do is disable ATT’s DNS backbone and viola, no URL resolution, no internet. Without DNS there isn’t any surfing, email, FTP, nothing.

You are right, we live under a warped sense of Admiralty and Coporate law mixed into an unholy alliance.

THAT is right. Group think, I’ve seen and heard it around much. No one has their own or original ideas, words, ideas, feelings, beliefs, flow in and out of people one to another without the individual questioning or using the logic filter. I really hear lots of conversations among people that are just other people’s ideas flowing in and out of people’s heads like they are a sieve, no check on “is that true,” “is that ethical,” “is that legal,” “is that just,” especially in “social networks” where language has been reduced to codes and symbols representing degraded or baseline human expression.

I’m glad I’m not the only one that sees the inherent problem with this. I have to instruct my children not to fall into this trap when they hang out with groups of friends.

Yeah that sure was a win for us. I hate how the politicians play word games like “citizens united” when it is actually corporations, foreign and domestic. Here is Obama’s comments after the ruling: “President Barack Obama stated that the decision “gives the special interests and their lobbyists even more power in Washington — while undermining the influence of average Americans who make small contributions to support their preferred candidates.”[39] Obama later elaborated in his weekly radio address saying, “this ruling strikes at our democracy itself” and “I can’t think of anything more devastating to the public interest”.[40] On January 27, 2010, Obama further condemned the decision during the 2010 State of the Union Address, stating that, “Last week, the Supreme Court reversed a century of law[41] to open the floodgates for special interests — including foreign corporations — to spend without limit in our elections. Well I don’t think American elections should be bankrolled by America’s most powerful interests, or worse, by foreign entities.” The US is screwed and that is sad.

I think we are crushing more on your brain than the shape of your buttons.

[...] Obama may get power to shut down Internet without court oversight [...]

Only if you have breast implants instead of a brain,Darling :)

what democracy; always was demockery. even the vicious indian-killer george washington said “a democratic society cannot long exist in the presence of a standing army.” and that was 235 years of standing army ago. considering the indian wars ended only in 1900… 40 years hof half-peace in US history.

any reading of history clearly shows that the praetorian guard just allows caesar and senate to pose as power they are not. pentagon gets its way or else. all else are figureheads for the guns and moneyed.

I’m thinking he was willing.

I’m thinking he was willing.

I’m thinking he was willing.

I agree with a lot of what you wrote, however Ronald Reagan as an example of someone who stood up for freedom?

Huh?

I agree with a lot of what you wrote, however Ronald Reagan as an example of someone who stood up for freedom?

Huh?

I agree with a lot of what you wrote, however Ronald Reagan as an example of someone who stood up for freedom?

Huh?

Nope. Will never happen.

Nope. Will never happen.

Nope. Will never happen.

The NSA has had the power for years. Every major switching center has an area that is off limits to Phone personnel that requires special credentials to gain access.

Same with cell phones.

The NSA has had the power for years. Every major switching center has an area that is off limits to Phone personnel that requires special credentials to gain access.

Same with cell phones.

The NSA has had the power for years. Every major switching center has an area that is off limits to Phone personnel that requires special credentials to gain access.

Same with cell phones.

Nope. ATT would never agree to such a thing.

This sort of ‘kill switch’, metaphor or not doesn’t exist. You can’t ‘shut down core DNS servers’. Can’t happen.

Again. This is a totally irresponsible article.

Nope. ATT would never agree to such a thing.

This sort of ‘kill switch’, metaphor or not doesn’t exist. You can’t ‘shut down core DNS servers’. Can’t happen.

Again. This is a totally irresponsible article.

Nope. ATT would never agree to such a thing.

This sort of ‘kill switch’, metaphor or not doesn’t exist. You can’t ‘shut down core DNS servers’. Can’t happen.

Again. This is a totally irresponsible article.

Simple fact.

Simple fact.

Simple fact.

Hologram5
Point taken…i will try to widen my view.

Viruses do have a habit of spreading…….

Hologram5
Point taken…i will try to widen my view.

Viruses do have a habit of spreading…….

Hologram5
Point taken…i will try to widen my view.

Viruses do have a habit of spreading…….

You and devilliers are always entertaining.

You and devilliers are always entertaining.

You and devilliers are always entertaining.

Yeah, I’ve also taken a look at the Bill of Rights.
From where, exactly, derives the power of the Federal Government to censor speech?

Yeah, I’ve also taken a look at the Bill of Rights.
From where, exactly, derives the power of the Federal Government to censor speech?

Yeah, I’ve also taken a look at the Bill of Rights.
From where, exactly, derives the power of the Federal Government to censor speech?

The NSA never had the LEGAL power to shut down the internet, that’s why this law is going through Congress. This bill gives it to them, via presidential directive. What they’ve had is access to the raw data that’s transmitted digitally.

The NSA never had the LEGAL power to shut down the internet, that’s why this law is going through Congress. This bill gives it to them, via presidential directive. What they’ve had is access to the raw data that’s transmitted digitally.

The NSA never had the LEGAL power to shut down the internet, that’s why this law is going through Congress. This bill gives it to them, via presidential directive. What they’ve had is access to the raw data that’s transmitted digitally.

Executive Branch abuses of power is not a partisan issue, if we are a nation of laws. While underlings are not at issue for following orders, those who crafted any that are in fact against the laws of the United States or Canada, cannot be just given a wink & nod.

Executive Branch abuses of power is not a partisan issue, if we are a nation of laws. While underlings are not at issue for following orders, those who crafted any that are in fact against the laws of the United States or Canada, cannot be just given a wink & nod.

Executive Branch abuses of power is not a partisan issue, if we are a nation of laws. While underlings are not at issue for following orders, those who crafted any that are in fact against the laws of the United States or Canada, cannot be just given a wink & nod.

Why do you think the government keeps the poor on the dole?
The sheep won’t rise up against their feeder.

You need some meditation…

Interesting….thank you.

Tell me what the republicans are about……

this is getting out of hand, but i’m gonna read up more before i lose my mind on a comment stream.

Kind of reminds me of the scuttlebutt that Obama was coming for all of our guns- didn’t happen….then it was Obama was coming for our ammo-hasn’t happened. But who made money from everyones’ fear?? the NRA…?

….or more likely, their sycophants…..

Cool, I am a social Darwinist, and since I am on top of the food chain, what concerns the rubes, cannot affect me

The question is, how many divisions does the Bill of Rights have?

so much for theory. are you ready for reality ??

Hey, the president already as the power to disappear anyone by dictat, i.e., he is now a dictator, so what’s the big deal about anything else? Your freedom is already gone, folks.

Yeah, and now the US has a mercenary army.

Same shit, in essence, only louder and with guns & Jesus on their side. Surely, you know that.

Same shit, in essence, only louder and with guns & Jesus on their side. Surely, you know that.

[...] Obama may get power to shut down Internet without court oversight The Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act was introduced last year by Sens. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) and Susan Collins (R-ME) in an effort to combat cyber-crime and the threat of online warfare and terrorism. But critics argue that if the law really changed nothing, it wouldn't be necessary. And they point out that the Communications Act of 1934 only gives the president the ability to shut down communications during times of war, whereas the proposed bill would allow it during times of "national cyberemergency," a concept evidently left to the president to define. Got to love the newspeak coming out of Washington. Does the first amendment mean nothing to these people? Obama may get power to shut down Internet without court oversight | Raw Story [...]

[...] http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/01/power-shut-internet-court-oversight/ [...]

[...] Obama may get power to shut down Internet without court oversight Om en annan false flag-händelse – UN Human Rights Official Claims 9-11 Was US Plot – Richard Falk, a retired professor from Princeton University, wrote on his blog that there had been an “apparent cover up” by American authorities. [...]

we’re talking about the president being able to stop Americans from accessing the internet, or getting to where they want to go, hence, NOT a global topic.

we’re talking about the president being able to stop Americans from accessing the internet, or getting to where they want to go, hence, NOT a global topic.

we’re talking about the president being able to stop Americans from accessing the internet, or getting to where they want to go, hence, NOT a global topic.

hmmm… sound’s like an offer…i accept…you have my mail…XD

hmmm… sound’s like an offer…i accept…you have my mail…XD

hmmm… sound’s like an offer…i accept…you have my mail…XD

Belle, of course the government would never break a law or assume powers that were not granted to them…(chuckle).
Read up on The United States Senate Select Committee to Study Governmental Operations with Respect to Intelligence Activities (Church Committee) it was more than just a coffee klatch. We were never in Laos, Cambodia, Most of Central and South America either LOL.

The NRO/NSC will do what they want when they want to do it and write the law(s) later. By the way everything is “raw” data including voice calls, fax, TCP/IP etc. It becomes “cooked” when it is intercepted and acted on. Once a packet is “sniffed” it is no longer “raw”.

The “law” is to cover their ass and nothing more.

Belle, of course the government would never break a law or assume powers that were not granted to them…(chuckle).
Read up on The United States Senate Select Committee to Study Governmental Operations with Respect to Intelligence Activities (Church Committee) it was more than just a coffee klatch. We were never in Laos, Cambodia, Most of Central and South America either LOL.

The NRO/NSC will do what they want when they want to do it and write the law(s) later. By the way everything is “raw” data including voice calls, fax, TCP/IP etc. It becomes “cooked” when it is intercepted and acted on. Once a packet is “sniffed” it is no longer “raw”.

The “law” is to cover their ass and nothing more.

Belle, of course the government would never break a law or assume powers that were not granted to them…(chuckle).
Read up on The United States Senate Select Committee to Study Governmental Operations with Respect to Intelligence Activities (Church Committee) it was more than just a coffee klatch. We were never in Laos, Cambodia, Most of Central and South America either LOL.

The NRO/NSC will do what they want when they want to do it and write the law(s) later. By the way everything is “raw” data including voice calls, fax, TCP/IP etc. It becomes “cooked” when it is intercepted and acted on. Once a packet is “sniffed” it is no longer “raw”.

The “law” is to cover their ass and nothing more.

Plus shutdown the new Common Alerting Protocol (CAP) they plan to roll out later this year that is scheduled to replace the Emergency Alert System..
That’s the system used in the event of an emergency yada,yada.

Plus shutdown the new Common Alerting Protocol (CAP) they plan to roll out later this year that is scheduled to replace the Emergency Alert System..
That’s the system used in the event of an emergency yada,yada.

Plus shutdown the new Common Alerting Protocol (CAP) they plan to roll out later this year that is scheduled to replace the Emergency Alert System..
That’s the system used in the event of an emergency yada,yada.

another cc request as well LOL.
Nice avatar though, I was freaked at first but it has grown on me..
:)

another cc request as well LOL.
Nice avatar though, I was freaked at first but it has grown on me..
:)

another cc request as well LOL.
Nice avatar though, I was freaked at first but it has grown on me..
:)

You must live in a conservative state LOL
In Texas subtract 3 years from your time line.

You must live in a conservative state LOL
In Texas subtract 3 years from your time line.

You must live in a conservative state LOL
In Texas subtract 3 years from your time line.

Merci, merci beaucoup. Juste un peu.

Oui, l’anglais est plus facile pour moi.

george washington’s 1st act as president was to hire a mercanary thug
army to go kill as may ‘indians’ as possible. full-pay for a man’s;
half-pay for woman and 1/4-pay for a child’s scalp. started at the
bottom and WORKING ITS NAZI WAY DOWNWARDS. always was racist genocide;
still is; will be until overthrown, disarmed, demilitarized. ready for
the ramparts? got a car to run for your life?

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LOL…shut down the Internet…

LOL…shut down the Internet…

You mean CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC. The US is NOT a democracy (which is 2 wolves and a sheep taking a vote on what to have for dinner).

You mean CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC. The US is NOT a democracy (which is 2 wolves and a sheep taking a vote on what to have for dinner).

Attack on an independent internet should be no surprise. One half the public is clueless; one half the public sees but is terribly frustrated. Congress knows but is content with the status quo. There is little representation of the public in Washington. The Supreme Court places corporate interests over those of the public. The question is not if and when – it’s already gone. I support my argument based on an add I see above from AcornOnline.com for a “free” leather bound edition of the United States Constitution. Note the play on words when a copy of the Patriot Act would be far more appropriate – past verses present tense. Half the nation is clueless; half the nation is holding its breath and about the pass out.

Attack on an independent internet should be no surprise. One half the public is clueless; one half the public sees but is terribly frustrated. Congress knows but is content with the status quo. There is little representation of the public in Washington. The Supreme Court places corporate interests over those of the public. The question is not if and when – it’s already gone. I support my argument based on an add I see above from AcornOnline.com for a “free” leather bound edition of the United States Constitution. Note the play on words when a copy of the Patriot Act would be far more appropriate – past verses present tense. Half the nation is clueless; half the nation is holding its breath and about the pass out.

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Hahaha…..You`re a bad puppy

Ha, the guy who played Zaphod in the latest remake said one of the inspirations for his performance was Bush jr.

I’d settle for his/her learning how to use the Return key.

Oh no, then that punk “Senior Editor” here at Raw Story “aka whinebaby” would be out of a job. Hmm, maybe thats a good thing.

That is so cool! Thanks for letting me know.
It gives me a good excuse to watch the DVD again. Cheers.

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Separation of Church and State

And critical thinking processes in too many of our stunned citizens.

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Only popular will can defeat this bill before it joins “corporate personhood” as the final nails in the coffin of America’s grand 200+ year experiment with representative democracy.

The US has more than adequate means to disrupt telecom in any corner of the planet.

Just like a serial killer. Always wants one more. But the last one always contains the seeds of the killer’s own destruction. Wikileaks + Palestinian Papers + falling dictatorships in the Arab world = A New Paradigm. WHat it is, I wish I knew.

Preach!

He may be liberal but he is no progressive. He brings absolutely no value to the position of the Presidency besides good diction and an awesome Mt. Rushmore pose.

Let’s be honest though and recognize that an entire set of institutional and cultural systems are in place and designed to misinform, misdirect, and mislead. Part of that dynamic is an inordinate amount of time spent on mindless activity. A poor, fast food diet, low in nutritional value decreases thinking skills, and a tsunami of prescription drugs that act upon mood and disposition further deplete our mind’s ability to recognize truth when we see it.

Obama, as well as the rest of the Blue Dog DINOs, Republicans and Teabaggers are all owned by the upper 1% plutocratic, kleptocratic fascists. They are the ones seeking this clearly unconstitutional power.

The dude abides

Obama and Bush are “real demons of the world” who are owned by the upper 1% plutocratic, kleptocratic fascists, who are also “real demons of the world”.

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Remember that the Iranian Revolution was a CIA-backed youth-uprising movement too, gone “awry.” I suspect the technique has been “improved” since ’79.

Also, doesn’t anyone find it timely that at the moment we in the US, UK, and Australia are talking about how repressive, 1984-esque, and militaristic the US society is, supposedly the Arab world is “becoming more free” and able to “finally revolt” against their dictators after some 30 years of absolute repression?

Remember that the Iranian Revolution was a CIA-backed youth-uprising movement too, gone “awry.” I suspect the technique has been “improved” since ’79.

Also, doesn’t anyone find it timely that at the moment we in the US, UK, and Australia are talking about how repressive, 1984-esque, and militaristic the US society is, supposedly the Arab world is “becoming more free” and able to “finally revolt” against their dictators after some 30 years of absolute repression?

Remember that the Iranian Revolution was a CIA-backed youth-uprising movement too, gone “awry.” I suspect the technique has been “improved” since ’79.

Also, doesn’t anyone find it timely that at the moment we in the US, UK, and Australia are talking about how repressive, 1984-esque, and militaristic the US society is, supposedly the Arab world is “becoming more free” and able to “finally revolt” against their dictators after some 30 years of absolute repression?

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No. Mussolini. Salazar. Hitler. These people were fascists.
Richard Griffiths says, and quite rightly so, that “fascist” is the most misused, and over-used word, of our times.
As much as i dislike Bush, he did not kill 6 million jews.

No. Mussolini. Salazar. Hitler. These people were fascists.
Richard Griffiths says, and quite rightly so, that “fascist” is the most misused, and over-used word, of our times.
As much as i dislike Bush, he did not kill 6 million jews.

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whats with all the comments i actually had to press ctrl + home to get back to the top after accidentally scrolling all the way down

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I hear a lot of name calling and complaining with nothing productive or original to say.
How typical of the anti-liberal crowd.

Obama has done plenty of good things. Expecting him to undo decades of conservative screw ups in two years simply isn’t realistic.

I hear a lot of name calling and complaining with nothing productive or original to say.
How typical of the anti-liberal crowd.

Obama has done plenty of good things. Expecting him to undo decades of conservative screw ups in two years simply isn’t realistic.

“anti-liberal crowd”.
Hahaha, Neo Fascist monkey,.you can keep your torture president & shove your name calling up your nose.

We probably will keep the president. I haven’t seen any challengers who could usurp Obama in 2012 from his opposition yet.
Huckabee probably has the best chance.

It’s hilarious to me that from the 2010 midterm the right thinks, “America spoke loud and clear against Obama” What utter nonsense! Young people did not vote in the midterms and they are one of Obama’s core constituencies. You can bet your ass they’ll vote in 2012.

So far I am very happy with Obama. I hope he wins again in 2012 based on his current performance.

And most Americans want to keep his healthcare, according to CBS. So suck it.

We probably will keep the president. I haven’t seen any challengers who could usurp Obama in 2012 from his opposition yet.
Huckabee probably has the best chance.

It’s hilarious to me that from the 2010 midterm the right thinks, “America spoke loud and clear against Obama” What utter nonsense! Young people did not vote in the midterms and they are one of Obama’s core constituencies. You can bet your ass they’ll vote in 2012.

So far I am very happy with Obama. I hope he wins again in 2012 based on his current performance.

And most Americans want to keep his healthcare, according to CBS. So suck it.

“So far I am very happy with Obama”

Of course you are, just like you used to be happy with Bush and Cheney….You are a bovine & you deserve your shitty existence. Bend over here it comes again

No, I hated Bush and Cheney. They are corporatists.
Ever see the documentary Gasland?
Cheney poisoned ground water – made the drinking water flammable – in parts of the U.S. just to make money for Halliburton.
Bush stole the election in Florida too through his brother.

No, I hated Bush and Cheney. They are corporatists.
Ever see the documentary Gasland?
Cheney poisoned ground water – made the drinking water flammable – in parts of the U.S. just to make money for Halliburton.
Bush stole the election in Florida too through his brother.

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but dont those in power understand that some rights CANT be taken away because they were never within the power of the govt to be given in the first place?

its very easy and simple to write down on a piece of paper that something is against the law now, and i suppose its very amusing to them to turn such a simple thing into a giant crazy chess game to confuse the people… but when its all said and done… and people realize the dream no longer fits with the reality.. they will keep their rights to be angry and to go crazy just like the people of Tunisia and now Egypt have done.

the people in power must have forgotten what it means to be a real human being with actual honest passion.

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